In this episode, we dig into the part of recovery nobody really prepares you for — the flood of emotions that shows up once the substances are gone. The grief, the anger, the anxiety, the joy that feels almost too big to hold. For a lot of us, using was the way we managed feelings for years, sometimes decades. So what happens when that coping mechanism is gone and you're left standing in the middle of everything you never learned to process?

We talk about what it's actually like in those early days and weeks, why emotional sobriety is often harder than physical sobriety, and the tools that have helped us navigate it — from working the steps, to leaning on a sponsor, to just learning how to sit with discomfort instead of running from it.

Whether you're thinking about getting sober, fresh into recovery, or years into the journey and still figuring it out, this one's for you.

In this episode, Lenny and I get into it. We define what fear really looks like in recovery, what faith actually means (and no, it doesn't have to be religious), and we share real, personal moments where fear was driving the bus — and what it looked like when we chose faith instead.

We also push back on each other: can fear and faith coexist? Is fear ever useful in recovery? And most importantly — what actually helps you move from fear to faith on a hard day?

This one gets honest. We hope it helps.

🎙️ This Too Shall Cast Recovery Podcast — Episode 8

Relapse usually does not start with the drug. It starts way earlier in the mind, in the habits, in the disconnect, and in the small decisions that slowly pull someone away from recovery.

This conversation gets into the real mechanics behind relapse, what warning signs to watch for, and how people in recovery can stay sharp before things spiral. Whether you are in recovery yourself, supporting someone who is, or trying to better understand addiction, this episode lays it out in a real and practical way.

If you have ever wondered why someone can seem fine on the outside and still end up going back out, this episode is for you.

**In this episode:** *

One of the biggest drivers behind relapse * Early warning signs people miss * How mental and emotional relapse starts * Why isolation, ego, and disconnection are so dangerous * Practical recovery insight for staying on track

**Subscribe** for more conversations around recovery, addiction, mindset, and personal growth.

In Episode 5 of This Too Shall Cast Podcast, we dig into a truth that people outside of addiction often miss: you cannot force recovery, but there is something powerful that can crack open the door to change. We talk about the inner shift, the pain, the clarity, and the moments that make someone finally say, “I can’t keep living like this.”

This episode is for:

• people struggling with addiction

• those in recovery

• family members trying to understand a loved one

• anyone looking for a real conversation about what drives the desire to get clean

This is an honest discussion about addiction, surrender, willingness, and what it really takes for recovery to begin.

If this conversation hits home, subscribe and follow This Too Shall Cast Podcast for more raw discussions about addiction, healing, and transformation.