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    <description><![CDATA[<p>The Divide Podcast is for anyone trying to follow Jesus in a world that keeps drawing lines for them. Each episode begins with a raw, honest take on the issues shaping our lives—faith, politics, culture, and everything in between—then moves into real conversations that wrestle with what Scripture actually says. Some say you can’t follow Jesus and vote a certain way or live a certain way. Others say it doesn’t matter. And the rest of us are trying to make sense of it all. The Divide cuts through the noise to refocus on what the Bible actually says. In the end, it’s about the courage to live where faith draws the line.</p>]]></description>
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          <itunes:summary>The Divide Podcast is for anyone trying to follow Jesus in a world that keeps drawing lines for them. Each episode begins with a raw, honest take on the issues shaping our lives—faith, politics, culture, and everything in between—then moves into real conversations that wrestle with what Scripture actually says. Some say you can’t follow Jesus and vote a certain way or live a certain way. Others say it doesn’t matter. And the rest of us are trying to make sense of it all. The Divide cuts through the noise to refocus on what the Bible actually says. In the end, it’s about the courage to live where faith draws the line.</itunes:summary>
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        <title>6 - Does AI Cross the Line</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Let's explore what happens when AI moves from simply answering questions to influencing decisions, shaping our thinking, and potentially crossing boundaries we should be paying attention to. Ben shares his own journey with AI, examines the recent “sandbox” incident, and asks where Christians should draw the line between using AI as a helpful tool and allowing it to do our thinking for us. And, right in the middle of the conversation, Ben and ChatGPT have a little exchange of their own, including ChatGPT offering to just do the podcast for him. The episode ultimately brings the conversation back to faith, wisdom, discernment, and the question of who gets to shape the shaper.</p>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Every civilization has similar laws — murder, theft, trespassing, and more. Almost no one would argue that we don’t need laws. In fact, someone has estimated the US has made about 30,000 laws since it became a nation. So why do so many believe the universe can survive without God's laws? This episode of the Divide takes on the question many have overlooked: if God's law was negotiable, what was Jesus actually dying for? We’re talking law and grace. And we're  the God who apparently thought both mattered enough to die over. This is The Divide — where faith draws the line.</p>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Twenty-one words is all that stands between you and a government that decides who's allowed to preach. This episode traces the line from Roger Williams, banished from Massachusetts for saying the state has no business in anyone's conscience, through jailed Baptist preachers in colonial Virginia, to the Thirty Years' War, Henry VIII, and a June 2026 Oval Office moment that keeps the whole argument alive today. It’s a story about what happens when governments start needing religion, and religion starts needing government. This is literally where Faith Draws the Line.</p>
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        <title>3 - Earthquakes: Shaken But Not Stirred</title>
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                    <comments>https://thedividepodcast.podbean.com/e/earthquakes/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2026 07:03:21 -0400</pubDate>
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        <title>2 - Sabbath in the News</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Why is a productivity-driven culture suddenly talking about rest? In this episode, Ben explores the renewed attention to Sabbath, prayer, and sacred time. Is this a spiritual awakening or just collective exhaustion? We look at the Biblical meaning of rest and why it feels so difficult to practice. Where do we draw the line in a restless world?</p>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Why does it seem like Christians are becoming louder but less like Christ? In this debut episode of The Divide, we explore the difference between conviction and controversy, truth and outrage, and why so many believers feel spiritually exhausted in today's culture. What if the greatest threat to your faith isn't opposition—but formation by the wrong voices?</p>
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