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    <description>Podcast from That 401(k) Site, hosted by ERISA Attorney Ary Rosenbaum featuring 401(k) news, discussions, and legal opinions.</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 03:48:00 -0500</pubDate>
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        <title>#401: That One About The Small Things That Hurt 401(k) Plans</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about the small things that can trouble a 401(k) plan and the need for checklists.</p>
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        <title>#400: That One About The Plan Provider Handbook Being Broken</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about how the 401(k) plan provider handbook as we know it, is broken.</p>
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        <title>#399: That One About A 401(k) Plan Sponsor Firing Their Vendor</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about when a plan sponsor may have to fire their plan provider or threaten to fire them.</p>
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        <title>#398: That One About Survivor and 401(k) Plans</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>As a Survivor fan, Ary Rosenbaum talks about the similarities between Survivor and 401(k) plans.</p>
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        <title>#397: That One About Alternative Investments in 401(k) Plans</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the DOL proposals on allowing alternative investments on 401(k) plans and why plan sponsors shouldn't be guinea pigs. </p>
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        <title>#396: That One About Plan Providers Needing To Pick Up The Phone</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about how 401(k) plan providers can't wait to let the phone ring.</p>
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        <title>#395: That One About Not Turning The 401(k) Plan into a Soap Opera</title>
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        <title>#394: That One About Changing Plan Providers Might Do Some Good</title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/394-that-one-about-changing-plan-providers-might-do-some-good/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2026 03:46:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about changing 401(k) plan providers and when it makes sense.</p>
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        <title>#393: That One About What New Plan Providers Would Do Tomorrow</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this special Les Miserables themed episode, Ary Rosenbaum talks about what good plan providers would do the day after taking over your plan.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this special Les Miserables themed episode, Ary Rosenbaum talks about what good plan providers would do the day after taking over your plan.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this special Les Miserables themed episode, Ary Rosenbaum talks about what good plan providers would do the day after taking over your plan.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#392: That One About Changing Payroll Providers Is A Big 401(k) Event</title>
        <itunes:title>#392: That One About Changing Payroll Providers Is A Big 401(k) Event</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/392-that-one-about-changing-payroll-providers-is-a-big-401k-event/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2026 03:30:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the issues of changing payroll providers and how it can be problematic as it pertains to the 401(k) plan.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the issues of changing payroll providers and how it can be problematic as it pertains to the 401(k) plan.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the issues of changing payroll providers and how it can be problematic as it pertains to the 401(k) plan.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#391: That One About Risk Mitigation For 401(k) Plan Providers</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the issue of how 401(k) plan providers can minimize their risk, and just not reply on their E&amp;O policies.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the issue of how 401(k) plan providers can minimize their risk, and just not reply on their E&amp;O policies.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/6qp9g7tex8kbzfpx/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3917me5b.mp3" length="15605818" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the issue of how 401(k) plan providers can minimize their risk, and just not reply on their E&amp;O policies.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#390: That One About Misconceptions About 4019k)</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about major misconceptions that plan sponsors have about 401(k) TPAs.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about major misconceptions that plan sponsors have about 401(k) TPAs.</p>
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        <title>#389: That One About Cybersecurity</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about cybersecurity and the issues for 401(k) plan sponsors.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about cybersecurity and the issues for 401(k) plan sponsors.</p>
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        <title>#388: That One About Why Plan Sponsors Should Not Withhold Information</title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/387-that-one-about-401k-plan-providers-and-catch-up-contributions/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 03:15:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the new catch up rules and why plan providers will be blamed when things go sideways.</p>
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        <title>#386: That One About 401(k) Committees</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum, once again, talks about one of his agonizing topics, the problems with 401(k) committees.</p>
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        <title>#385: That One About The Problems Of 401(k) Catch-Up</title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/385-that-one-about-the-problems-of-401k-catch-up/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2026 03:48:00 -0500</pubDate>
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        <title>#384: That One About Why Small Plans Need Big Thinking</title>
        <itunes:title>#384: That One About Why Small Plans Need Big Thinking</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/384-that-one-about-why-small-plans-need-big-thinking/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/384-that-one-about-why-small-plans-need-big-thinking/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2026 03:55:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about small plans and why there is a myth that they don't need help like big plans.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about small plans and why there is a myth that they don't need help like big plans.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/cpkpx6j3aky4wbsw/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3847bfhd.mp3" length="14886101" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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        <title>#383: That One About The Good, The Bad, and The Fiduciary</title>
        <itunes:title>#383: That One About The Good, The Bad, and The Fiduciary</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/383-that-one-about-the-good-the-bad-and-the-fiduciary/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2026 03:33:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM mixes his love for 401(k) plans and Sergio Leone movies into one big podcast.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/cw3rx4ptmgrgd3ta/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3838npx2.mp3" length="16264841" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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        <title>#381: That One About That 401(k) Plan Provider handbook</title>
        <itunes:title>#381: That One About That 401(k) Plan Provider handbook</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/381-that-one-about-that-401k-plan-provider-handbook/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2026 03:05:00 -0500</pubDate>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/wwpe73hwyzammbyu/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_382655o6.mp3" length="21851768" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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        <title>#381: That One Abut Auto 401(k) Features</title>
        <itunes:title>#381: That One Abut Auto 401(k) Features</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/381-that-one-abut-auto-401k-features/</link>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM is talking about auto 401(k0 features and the problems they represent,</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM is talking about auto 401(k0 features and the problems they represent,</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/ith7zwz9p8hkdi26/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_381aqhby.mp3" length="15180479" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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        <title>#380: That One About Plan Compensation issues</title>
        <itunes:title>#380: That One About Plan Compensation issues</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/380-that-one-about-plan-compensation-issues/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/380-that-one-about-plan-compensation-issues/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2025 03:55:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about plan compensation issues and why it can be a silent killer for plans.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about plan compensation issues and why it can be a silent killer for plans.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/pn8p94vcbk8urinn/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3809tr1h.mp3" length="13050502" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about plan compensation issues and why it can be a silent killer for plans.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#379: That One About Terminated 401(k) Plans</title>
        <itunes:title>#379: That One About Terminated 401(k) Plans</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/379-that-one-about-terminated-401k-plans/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/379-that-one-about-terminated-401k-plans/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2025 03:45:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the compliance perils of terminating a 401(k) plan.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/tn6ec6dr52e9gqct/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_379artam.mp3" length="17357428" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the compliance perils of terminating a 401(k) plan.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#378: That One About The Hunger Games For 401(k) Plan Providers</title>
        <itunes:title>#378: That One About The Hunger Games For 401(k) Plan Providers</itunes:title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the Hunger Games for 401(k) Plan Providers with all the crazy changes in the 401(k) business.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/88vsnutmpfdapty4/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3786q6ma.mp3" length="17825405" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the Hunger Games for 401(k) Plan Providers with all the crazy changes in the 401(k) business.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#377: That One About The 401(k) Bermuda Triangle</title>
        <itunes:title>#377: That One About The 401(k) Bermuda Triangle</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/377-that-one-about-the-401k-bermuda-triangle/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2025 03:33:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum with another episode on the peril of missing participants and his love for disaster movies.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/ti4twn2cs3hpg6qn/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_377b5dw6.mp3" length="15004435" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum with another episode on the peril of missing participants and his love for disaster movies.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#376: That One About 2026 Is Testing Every 401(k) Plan Sponsor</title>
        <itunes:title>#376: That One About 2026 Is Testing Every 401(k) Plan Sponsor</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/376-that-one-about-2026-is-testing-every-401k-plan-sponsor/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2025 03:14:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about 2026 and the Rocky movies and how it's going to test every plan sponsor because time is undefeated.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about 2026 and the Rocky movies and how it's going to test every plan sponsor because time is undefeated.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/igaxqjbqy6vchw3k/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_376akpo5.mp3" length="17326230" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about 2026 and the Rocky movies and how it's going to test every plan sponsor because time is undefeated.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#375: That One About A 401(k) Plan Sponsor Being Like An NFL Head Coach</title>
        <itunes:title>#375: That One About A 401(k) Plan Sponsor Being Like An NFL Head Coach</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/375-that-one-about-a-401k-plan-sponsor-being-like-an-nfl-head-coach/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/375-that-one-about-a-401k-plan-sponsor-being-like-an-nfl-head-coach/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 03:30:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the similarities about being a 401(k) plan sponsor and being an NFL Head coach.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/nkwe3rrcvimqukah/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_375au3fs.mp3" length="16606784" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the similarities about being a 401(k) plan sponsor and being an NFL Head coach.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#374: That One About 401(k) Plan Providers Needing To Focus On Retirement Ouctomes</title>
        <itunes:title>#374: That One About 401(k) Plan Providers Needing To Focus On Retirement Ouctomes</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/374-that-one-about-401k-plan-providers-needing-to-focus-on-retirement-ouctomes/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/374-that-one-about-401k-plan-providers-needing-to-focus-on-retirement-ouctomes/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2025 02:56:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the need for 401(k) plan providers to focus on retirement outcomes. Chicago and Denver dates for That 401(k) Conferences have been announced.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the need for 401(k) plan providers to focus on retirement outcomes. Chicago and Denver dates for That 401(k) Conferences have been announced.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/xqhpxeknqb98kyq6/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_374916wj.mp3" length="17513018" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the need for 401(k) plan providers to focus on retirement outcomes. Chicago and Denver dates for That 401(k) Conferences have been announced.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#373: That One About 401(k) Plan Policies</title>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about 401(k) plan policies that plan sponsors should consider putting in place.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about 401(k) plan policies that plan sponsors should consider putting in place.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#372: That One About 401(k) Plans being an employee benefit</title>
        <itunes:title>#372: That One About 401(k) Plans being an employee benefit</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/372-that-one-about-401k-plans-being-an-employee-benefit/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2025 03:55:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about how 401(k) plans can and should be an employee benefit, and what plan sponsors need to do.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about how 401(k) plans can and should be an employee benefit, and what plan sponsors need to do.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ARY ROSENBAUM talks about how 401(k) plans can and should be an employee benefit, and what plan sponsors need to do.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#371: That One About The 2026 Catch Up Rule Change Being A Hot Mess</title>
        <itunes:title>#371: That One About The 2026 Catch Up Rule Change Being A Hot Mess</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/371-that-one-about-the-2026-catch-up-rule-change-being-a-hot-mess/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/371-that-one-about-the-2026-catch-up-rule-change-being-a-hot-mess/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 03:30:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about the upcoming 2026 Roth change and how it will be a hot mess, as Lucille Bluth would say.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about the upcoming 2026 Roth change and how it will be a hot mess, as Lucille Bluth would say.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/swtw2fegii5fx28h/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3716a1o3.mp3" length="14272731" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ARY ROSENBAUM talks about the upcoming 2026 Roth change and how it will be a hot mess, as Lucille Bluth would say.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#370: That One About 401(k) Plans Being An Employee Benefit</title>
        <itunes:title>#370: That One About 401(k) Plans Being An Employee Benefit</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/370-that-one-about-401k-plans-being-an-employee-benefit/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/370-that-one-about-401k-plans-being-an-employee-benefit/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 03:37:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM, talks about how plan sponsors need to remind themselves that a 401(k) plan is an employee benefit.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM, talks about how plan sponsors need to remind themselves that a 401(k) plan is an employee benefit.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/y3cj7hdkkzkt2t44/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3706q8vh.mp3" length="18359453" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ARY ROSENBAUM, talks about how plan sponsors need to remind themselves that a 401(k) plan is an employee benefit.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#369: That One About Learning From Arrogant 401(k) Plan Providers</title>
        <itunes:title>#369: That One About Learning From Arrogant 401(k) Plan Providers</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/369-that-one-about-learning-from-arrogant-401k-plan-providers/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/369-that-one-about-learning-from-arrogant-401k-plan-providers/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 03:48:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about arrogant plan providers and what we can learn from their mistakes. He also talks about the Long Island concept of people selling fish from their car and wonders if that's just a Long Island thing.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about arrogant plan providers and what we can learn from their mistakes. He also talks about the Long Island concept of people selling fish from their car and wonders if that's just a Long Island thing.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/55ejuiwy487rtp76/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3698oos9.mp3" length="19224148" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ARY ROSENBAUM talks about arrogant plan providers and what we can learn from their mistakes. He also talks about the Long Island concept of people selling fish from their car and wonders if that's just a Long Island thing.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#368: That One About The Trump Shuffle and 401(k) Plans</title>
        <itunes:title>#368: That One About The Trump Shuffle and 401(k) Plans</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/368-that-one-about-the-trump-shuffle-and-401k-plans/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/368-that-one-about-the-trump-shuffle-and-401k-plans/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 03:55:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about some of the changes under the Trump Administration about 401(k) plans and how that impacts plan sponsors.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about some of the changes under the Trump Administration about 401(k) plans and how that impacts plan sponsors.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/ge3mrhfrzasuem9z/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3687qf4d.mp3" length="15204880" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about some of the changes under the Trump Administration about 401(k) plans and how that impacts plan sponsors.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#367: That One About Plan Sponsor Compliance and Pro Wrestling</title>
        <itunes:title>#367: That One About Plan Sponsor Compliance and Pro Wrestling</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/367-that-one-about-plan-sponsor-compliance-and-pro-wrestling/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/367-that-one-about-plan-sponsor-compliance-and-pro-wrestling/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2025 03:59:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about 401(k) plan sponsor responsibilities and somehow references pro wrestling. </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about 401(k) plan sponsor responsibilities and somehow references pro wrestling. </p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/4kj36tc3kxu6uv2w/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3677xkld.mp3" length="18504874" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about 401(k) plan sponsor responsibilities and somehow references pro wrestling. ]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#366: That One About Plan Forfeitures</title>
        <itunes:title>#366: That One About Plan Forfeitures</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/366-that-one-about-plan-forfeitures/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/366-that-one-about-plan-forfeitures/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2025 03:23:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the use of 401(k) plan forfeitures and what plan sponsors need to do.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the use of 401(k) plan forfeitures and what plan sponsors need to do.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/ic98a9zm4rfgnew8/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_36666wd1.mp3" length="13453497" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the use of 401(k) plan forfeitures and what plan sponsors need to do.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#365: That One About The Trump EO on Crypto and Private Equity For 401(k) Plan Providers</title>
        <itunes:title>#365: That One About The Trump EO on Crypto and Private Equity For 401(k) Plan Providers</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/365-that-one-about-the-trump-eo-on-crypto-and-private-equity-for-401k-plan-providers/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/365-that-one-about-the-trump-eo-on-crypto-and-private-equity-for-401k-plan-providers/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2025 03:11:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about the Trump Executive Order on private equity and crypto in 401(kj plans and how that relates to plan providers.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about the Trump Executive Order on private equity and crypto in 401(kj plans and how that relates to plan providers.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/wyvrkwwbvvrg2jwf/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3658dh5h.mp3" length="17102659" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ARY ROSENBAUM talks about the Trump Executive Order on private equity and crypto in 401(kj plans and how that relates to plan providers.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#364: That One About A Plan Sponsor's Fidcuiary Checklist/ Just Push Play</title>
        <itunes:title>#364: That One About A Plan Sponsor's Fidcuiary Checklist/ Just Push Play</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/364-that-one-about-a-plan-sponsors-fidcuiary-checklist-just-push-play/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/364-that-one-about-a-plan-sponsors-fidcuiary-checklist-just-push-play/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2025 03:39:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about Aerosmith and fiduciary duties.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about Aerosmith and fiduciary duties.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/jyiabbpas7km4cf4/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3648dbp7.mp3" length="16196111" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about Aerosmith and fiduciary duties.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
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        <title>#363: That One About Mission Impossible For 401(k) Plan Sponsors</title>
        <itunes:title>#363: That One About Mission Impossible For 401(k) Plan Sponsors</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/363-that-one-about-mission-impossible-for-401k-plan-sponsors/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/363-that-one-about-mission-impossible-for-401k-plan-sponsors/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 03:50:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the Mission Impossible movies and how plan sponsors can take their mission of being a plan fiduciary, and making it manageable and possible.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the Mission Impossible movies and how plan sponsors can take their mission of being a plan fiduciary, and making it manageable and possible.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/bepuwdva7rpp92py/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_36395zln.mp3" length="15923396" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the Mission Impossible movies and how plan sponsors can take their mission of being a plan fiduciary, and making it manageable and possible.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#362: That One About Plant Sponsors Having Misplaced Loyalty In 401(k) Plan Providers</title>
        <itunes:title>#362: That One About Plant Sponsors Having Misplaced Loyalty In 401(k) Plan Providers</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/362-that-one-about-plant-sponsors-having-misplaced-loyalty-in-401k-plan-providers/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/362-that-one-about-plant-sponsors-having-misplaced-loyalty-in-401k-plan-providers/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2025 03:57:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the problems of having misplaced loyalty in plan providers, and why it conflicts with a plan sponsor's duties.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the problems of having misplaced loyalty in plan providers, and why it conflicts with a plan sponsor's duties.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/f4yxfu6v56daepp5/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3629us7c.mp3" length="13546764" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the problems of having misplaced loyalty in plan providers, and why it conflicts with a plan sponsor's duties.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#361: That One About Tips For 401(k) Plan Providers</title>
        <itunes:title>#361: That One About Tips For 401(k) Plan Providers</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/361-that-one-about-tips-for-401k-plan-providers/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/361-that-one-about-tips-for-401k-plan-providers/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2025 03:28:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about tips he has for 401(k) plan providers.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about tips he has for 401(k) plan providers.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/7ejvvja3g4sgv79t/That_401_Podcast_Episode_3617pxsy.mp3" length="13261567" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about tips he has for 401(k) plan providers.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#360: That One About Absurd Things About 401(k) Plans That Plan Sponsors Don't Know</title>
        <itunes:title>#360: That One About Absurd Things About 401(k) Plans That Plan Sponsors Don't Know</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/360-that-one-about-absurd-things-about-401k-plans-that-plan-sponsors-dont-know/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/360-that-one-about-absurd-things-about-401k-plans-that-plan-sponsors-dont-know/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 03:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about absurd things about 401(k) plans that most plan sponsors don't know about.</p>
<p>Check 401ksite.com for further info on That 401(k) Conference in Milwaukee.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about absurd things about 401(k) plans that most plan sponsors don't know about.</p>
<p>Check 401ksite.com for further info on That 401(k) Conference in Milwaukee.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/7b7ipjq9sr5mqhtc/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3606qyh9.mp3" length="19026296" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ARY ROSENBAUM talks about absurd things about 401(k) plans that most plan sponsors don't know about.
Check 401ksite.com for further info on That 401(k) Conference in Milwaukee.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
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        <title>#359: That One About M&amp;A &amp; 401(k)</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about mergers and acquisitions and why a 401(k) plan review is necessary. </p>
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        <itunes:title>#358: That One About Offering Bitcoin In 401(k) Plans</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/358-that-one-about-offering-bitcoin-in-401k-plans/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2025 03:35:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum, big Bitcoin investor, lets you know why 401(k) plan sponsors should never offer Bitcoin in their 401(k) Plan.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum, big Bitcoin investor, lets you know why 401(k) plan sponsors should never offer Bitcoin in their 401(k) Plan.</p>
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        <title>#357: That About About 401(k) Plan Sponsors Avoiding the 3Cs</title>
        <itunes:title>#357: That About About 401(k) Plan Sponsors Avoiding the 3Cs</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/357-that-about-about-401k-plan-sponsors-avoiding-the-3cs/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2025 03:50:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about how 401(k) plan sponsors can avoid the 3Cs: cost, complacency, and control.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about how 401(k) plan sponsors can avoid the 3Cs: cost, complacency, and control.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ARY ROSENBAUM talks about how 401(k) plan sponsors can avoid the 3Cs: cost, complacency, and control.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#356: That One About Organizational Drift and Plan Providers</title>
        <itunes:title>#356: That One About Organizational Drift and Plan Providers</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/356-that-one-about-organizational-drift-and-plan-providers/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/356-that-one-about-organizational-drift-and-plan-providers/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2025 03:40:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about organizational drift and how that can be a problem for plan providers.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about organizational drift and how that can be a problem for plan providers.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ARY ROSENBAUM talks about organizational drift and how that can be a problem for plan providers.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#355: That One About Sign Of An Unhealthy 401(k) Plan</title>
        <itunes:title>#355: That One About Sign Of An Unhealthy 401(k) Plan</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/355-that-one-about-sign-of-an-unhealthy-401k-plan/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/355-that-one-about-sign-of-an-unhealthy-401k-plan/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2025 06:25:35 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about the top 10 signs for a plan sponsor that their 401(k) plan is unhealthy.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about the top 10 signs for a plan sponsor that their 401(k) plan is unhealthy.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/ig3eywpsjtye9rm6/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_35566ruv.mp3" length="16258516" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ARY ROSENBAUM talks about the top 10 signs for a plan sponsor that their 401(k) plan is unhealthy.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#354: The One About What Plans Sponsors Should Do To Be On The Right Side of ERISA</title>
        <itunes:title>#354: The One About What Plans Sponsors Should Do To Be On The Right Side of ERISA</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/354-the-one-about-what-plans-sponsors-should-do-to-be-on-the-right-side-of-erisa/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/354-the-one-about-what-plans-sponsors-should-do-to-be-on-the-right-side-of-erisa/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 03:56:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about what 401(k) plan sponsors need to do, to be on the right side of ERISA.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about what 401(k) plan sponsors need to do, to be on the right side of ERISA.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/wpmqk79vmj3xmhci/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_354a7f42.mp3" length="17102022" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about what 401(k) plan sponsors need to do, to be on the right side of ERISA.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#353: That One About Payroll Provider TPAs Redux</title>
        <itunes:title>#353: That One About Payroll Provider TPAs Redux</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/353-that-one-about-payroll-provider-tpas-redux/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/353-that-one-about-payroll-provider-tpas-redux/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2025 03:28:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks again about his annual article on payroll provider TPAs and why it's a mistake for 401(k) plan sponsors.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks again about his annual article on payroll provider TPAs and why it's a mistake for 401(k) plan sponsors.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/qt9p9yjfece5bt6u/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_35395std.mp3" length="18665137" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks again about his annual article on payroll provider TPAs and why it's a mistake for 401(k) plan sponsors.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#352: That One About Full Circle For 401(k) Plan Providers</title>
        <itunes:title>#352: That One About Full Circle For 401(k) Plan Providers</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/352-that-one-about-full-circle-for-401k-plan-providers/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/352-that-one-about-full-circle-for-401k-plan-providers/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2025 03:04:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about his new book, Full Circle (coming out June 9th) and lessons that can be learned for 401(k) plan providers.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about his new book, Full Circle (coming out June 9th) and lessons that can be learned for 401(k) plan providers.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about his new book, Full Circle (coming out June 9th) and lessons that can be learned for 401(k) plan providers.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#351: That One About Big 401(k) Plan Sponsors Concerns</title>
        <itunes:title>#351: That One About Big 401(k) Plan Sponsors Concerns</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/351-that-one-about-big-401k-plan-sponsors-concerns/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/351-that-one-about-big-401k-plan-sponsors-concerns/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2025 03:27:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about blg 401(k) plan sponsors concerns and talks about the next book, Full Circle, coming June 9th, as well as the events in Anaheim and Milwaukee. </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARY ROSENBAUM talks about blg 401(k) plan sponsors concerns and talks about the next book, Full Circle, coming June 9th, as well as the events in Anaheim and Milwaukee. </p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/7macug36etjfku5t/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_351bd8bf.mp3" length="13826843" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ARY ROSENBAUM talks about blg 401(k) plan sponsors concerns and talks about the next book, Full Circle, coming June 9th, as well as the events in Anaheim and Milwaukee. ]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#350: That One About Why Plan Sponsors Should Be Concerned With AI</title>
        <itunes:title>#350: That One About Why Plan Sponsors Should Be Concerned With AI</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/350-that-one-about-why-plan-sponsors-should-be-concerned-with-ai/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/350-that-one-about-why-plan-sponsors-should-be-concerned-with-ai/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2025 03:57:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the use of AI with 401(k) plans and the issues that plan sponsors should be concerned about.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the use of AI with 401(k) plans and the issues that plan sponsors should be concerned about.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/ts7ptzjy74dthaau/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3506b7gb.mp3" length="15713367" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the use of AI with 401(k) plans and the issues that plan sponsors should be concerned about.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#349: That One About 401(k) Plan Sponsors Needing To Remember It's An Employee Benefit</title>
        <itunes:title>#349: That One About 401(k) Plan Sponsors Needing To Remember It's An Employee Benefit</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/349-that-one-about-401k-plan-sponsors-needing-to-remember-its-an-employee-benefit/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/349-that-one-about-401k-plan-sponsors-needing-to-remember-its-an-employee-benefit/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2025 03:58:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about 401(k) plan sponsors needing to remember that their plan is supposed to be an employee benefit.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about 401(k) plan sponsors needing to remember that their plan is supposed to be an employee benefit.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/dm3us4j9dxq5vewq/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3498kqsa.mp3" length="19019351" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about 401(k) plan sponsors needing to remember that their plan is supposed to be an employee benefit.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#348: That One About Being Pro-Active As A 401(k) Plan sponsor</title>
        <itunes:title>#348: That One About Being Pro-Active As A 401(k) Plan sponsor</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/348-that-one-about-being-pro-active-as-a-401k-plan-sponsor/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 03:33:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about how 401(k) plan sponsors need to be pro-active.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about how 401(k) plan sponsors need to be pro-active.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/rj9nssd3c2p6umpk/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_348a1r3b.mp3" length="17899057" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about how 401(k) plan sponsors need to be pro-active.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>1311</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>330</itunes:episode>
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        <title>#347: The One About Intangibles You Need As A 401(k) Plan Provider</title>
        <itunes:title>#347: The One About Intangibles You Need As A 401(k) Plan Provider</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/347-the-one-about-intangibles-you-need-as-a-401k-plan-provider/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/347-the-one-about-intangibles-you-need-as-a-401k-plan-provider/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2025 03:14:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about intangibles you need as a 401(k) plan provider to succeed.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about intangibles you need as a 401(k) plan provider to succeed.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/hb9fanq3yww8gnmu/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3478ocy0.mp3" length="18870942" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about intangibles you need as a 401(k) plan provider to succeed.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <itunes:duration>1324</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>329</itunes:episode>
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        <title>#346: That One About The Choices That 401(k) Plan Sponsors Make</title>
        <itunes:title>#346: That One About The Choices That 401(k) Plan Sponsors Make</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/346-that-one-about-the-choices-that-401k-plan-sponsors-make/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/346-that-one-about-the-choices-that-401k-plan-sponsors-make/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2025 03:50:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the choices that plan sponsors make that leads them to trouble because our lives are the sum of our choices.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the choices that plan sponsors make that leads them to trouble because our lives are the sum of our choices.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/endmuq629xmnanmr/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3469aezw.mp3" length="21361513" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the choices that plan sponsors make that leads them to trouble because our lives are the sum of our choices.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#345: That One About Why Plan Sponsors Should Be Choosy In Picking TPAs</title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/345-that-one-about-why-plan-sponsors-should-be-choosy-in-picking-tpas/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2025 03:31:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about his experience as a TPA attorney and why plan sponsors need to consider who they hire as TPA.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about his experience as a TPA attorney and why plan sponsors need to consider who they hire as TPA.</p>
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        <title>#344: That One About A Cheat Sheet And Hacks For A 401(k) Plan Sponsor</title>
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        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/344-that-one-about-a-cheat-sheet-and-hacks-for-a-401k-plan-sponsor/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/344-that-one-about-a-cheat-sheet-and-hacks-for-a-401k-plan-sponsor/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2025 03:01:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about Latin cheat sheets, getting blood out of clothes, and hacks for 401(k) plan sponsors.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about Latin cheat sheets, getting blood out of clothes, and hacks for 401(k) plan sponsors.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/vzq9ux8zq7uqstht/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3448pa9q.mp3" length="17350772" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about Latin cheat sheets, getting blood out of clothes, and hacks for 401(k) plan sponsors.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#343: That One About This Is This For 401(k) Plan Providers</title>
        <itunes:title>#343: That One About This Is This For 401(k) Plan Providers</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/343-that-one-about-this-is-this-for-401k-plan-providers/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2025 03:35:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about what plan providers can do today in 2025 and deal with the coming changes in the industry.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about what plan providers can do today in 2025 and deal with the coming changes in the industry.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/7wmxz7pysuhmw5v9/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_344amfud.mp3" length="20975883" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about what plan providers can do today in 2025 and deal with the coming changes in the industry.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#342: The One About The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly TPAs</title>
        <itunes:title>#342: The One About The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly TPAs</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/342-the-one-about-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-tpas/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2025 03:53:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the good, the bad, and the ugly TPAs, based on his experiences.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the good, the bad, and the ugly TPAs, based on his experiences.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/dxjg2abn7tie4t5z/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_342btmq1.mp3" length="17102249" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the good, the bad, and the ugly TPAs, based on his experiences.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#341: That One About What 401(k) Plan Sponsors Have To Fear</title>
        <itunes:title>#341: That One About What 401(k) Plan Sponsors Have To Fear</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/341-that-one-about-what-401k-plan-sponsors-have-to-fear/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/341-that-one-about-what-401k-plan-sponsors-have-to-fear/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2025 03:54:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about what really 401(k) plan sponsors need to fear, and it's unlikely to be a class action lawsuit.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about what really 401(k) plan sponsors need to fear, and it's unlikely to be a class action lawsuit.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/q5cq6s4bsu8uxj3i/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_34191isx.mp3" length="17915791" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about what really 401(k) plan sponsors need to fear, and it's unlikely to be a class action lawsuit.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#340: That One About Finding A Plan Provider Who Will Be A Helping Hand</title>
        <itunes:title>#340: That One About Finding A Plan Provider Who Will Be A Helping Hand</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/340-that-one-about-finding-a-plan-provider-who-will-be-a-helping-hand/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/340-that-one-about-finding-a-plan-provider-who-will-be-a-helping-hand/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2025 03:43:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about why 401(k) plan sponsors need to find a plan provider who will give a helping hand.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about why 401(k) plan sponsors need to find a plan provider who will give a helping hand.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/vqtgq9rith3hm9y3/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_340621ul.mp3" length="15570089" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about why 401(k) plan sponsors need to find a plan provider who will give a helping hand.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#339: That One About Advice For Your New 401(k) Idea</title>
        <itunes:title>#339: That One About Advice For Your New 401(k) Idea</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/339-that-one-about-advice-for-your-new-401k-idea/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/339-that-one-about-advice-for-your-new-401k-idea/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2025 03:52:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum gives some advice on your next 401(k) idea, how to avoid the mistakes he's seen with new product launches.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum gives some advice on your next 401(k) idea, how to avoid the mistakes he's seen with new product launches.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/bgy7rapyva76adkr/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_33989o0v.mp3" length="17674366" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum gives some advice on your next 401(k) idea, how to avoid the mistakes he's seen with new product launches.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <itunes:duration>1293</itunes:duration>
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        <title>#338: That One About 401(k) Errors Todsy</title>
        <itunes:title>#338: That One About 401(k) Errors Todsy</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/338-that-one-about-401k-errors-todsy/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/338-that-one-about-401k-errors-todsy/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2025 03:27:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the 401(k) errors we see today, more often than other errors. </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the 401(k) errors we see today, more often than other errors. </p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/aynqg9c8fb4n77yj/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3389ylnl.mp3" length="19507663" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the 401(k) errors we see today, more often than other errors. ]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#337: That One About K.I.S.S. for 401(k) Plan Sponsors</title>
        <itunes:title>#337: That One About K.I.S.S. for 401(k) Plan Sponsors</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/337-that-one-about-kiss-for-401k-plan-sponsors/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/337-that-one-about-kiss-for-401k-plan-sponsors/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2025 03:51:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about his theory of Keep It Simple, Stupid, and how that helps 401(k) plan sponsors minis their liability.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about his theory of Keep It Simple, Stupid, and how that helps 401(k) plan sponsors minis their liability.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/zmugq6rx5hub3tzn/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_337akyv7.mp3" length="19130934" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about his theory of Keep It Simple, Stupid, and how that helps 401(k) plan sponsors minis their liability.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#336: That One About When To Ax Your Advisor</title>
        <itunes:title>#336: That One About When To Ax Your Advisor</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/336-that-one-about-when-to-ax-your-advisor/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/336-that-one-about-when-to-ax-your-advisor/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 03:54:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum is talking about when it might be time to fire your financial advisor. Check that401ksite.com for further information on all our live events.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/eyk7tygh7c84ihxb/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3369wl3v.mp3" length="18190350" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum is talking about when it might be time to fire your financial advisor. Check that401ksite.com for further information on all our live events.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#335: That One About The Dos and Don'ts of Plan Provider Networking</title>
        <itunes:title>#335: That One About The Dos and Don'ts of Plan Provider Networking</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/335-that-one-about-the-dos-and-donts-of-plan-provider-networking/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/335-that-one-about-the-dos-and-donts-of-plan-provider-networking/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2025 03:27:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about one of his favorite subjects: the do's and don'ts of 401(k) plan provider networking.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about one of his favorite subjects: the do's and don'ts of 401(k) plan provider networking.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/683d52u7gmjh8epg/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_335bconi.mp3" length="17358121" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about one of his favorite subjects: the do's and don'ts of 401(k) plan provider networking.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>that401ksite.com</itunes:author>
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        <title>#334: That One About Lies That Plan Providers May Tell You</title>
        <itunes:title>#334: That One About Lies That Plan Providers May Tell You</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/334-that-one-about-lies-that-plan-providers-may-tell-you/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/334-that-one-about-lies-that-plan-providers-may-tell-you/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2025 03:48:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about plan provider lies in their sales pitch when they want you to hire them for your 401(k) plan.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about plan provider lies in their sales pitch when they want you to hire them for your 401(k) plan.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/sdfq3gx7arjba6fv/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_33493tb1.mp3" length="18164955" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about plan provider lies in their sales pitch when they want you to hire them for your 401(k) plan.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>that401ksite.com</itunes:author>
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        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>1233</itunes:duration>
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        <title>#333: That One About Plan Sponsors Needing To Get A Grip Over Hiring an ERISA Attorney</title>
        <itunes:title>#333: That One About Plan Sponsors Needing To Get A Grip Over Hiring an ERISA Attorney</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/333-that-one-about-plan-sponsors-needing-to-get-a-grip-over-hiring-an-erisa-attorney/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/333-that-one-about-plan-sponsors-needing-to-get-a-grip-over-hiring-an-erisa-attorney/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:02:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about how 401(k) plan sponsors need to get over the fear of hiring an ERISA attorney.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about how 401(k) plan sponsors need to get over the fear of hiring an ERISA attorney.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/4gnipskpcqyhif9d/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3338x5m5.mp3" length="12985144" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about how 401(k) plan sponsors need to get over the fear of hiring an ERISA attorney.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>that401ksite.com</itunes:author>
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        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
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        <title>#332: That One About Plan Providers Gimmicks That Plan Sponsors Should Forget About</title>
        <itunes:title>#332: That One About Plan Providers Gimmicks That Plan Sponsors Should Forget About</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/332-that-one-about-plan-providers-gimmicks-that-plan-sponsors-should-forget-about/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/332-that-one-about-plan-providers-gimmicks-that-plan-sponsors-should-forget-about/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2025 03:30:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about 401(k) plan provider gimmicks that plan sponsors should not fall for.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about 401(k) plan provider gimmicks that plan sponsors should not fall for.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/cewh8x9qi8xiecvy/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3328494n.mp3" length="15913752" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about 401(k) plan provider gimmicks that plan sponsors should not fall for.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>that401ksite.com</itunes:author>
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        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>1133</itunes:duration>
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        <title>#331: That One About Plan Provider Content</title>
        <itunes:title>#331: That One About Plan Provider Content</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/331-that-one-about-plan-provider-content/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2025 03:29:00 -0500</pubDate>
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        <itunes:title>#330: That One About Avoiding Turning Your 401(k) Plan Into A Natural Disaster</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/330-that-one-about-avoiding-turning-your-401k-plan-into-a-natural-disaster/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jan 2025 03:53:00 -0500</pubDate>
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        <title>#329: The One About Stuff From A 401(k) Plan Provider Shouldn't Impress You</title>
        <itunes:title>#329: The One About Stuff From A 401(k) Plan Provider Shouldn't Impress You</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/329-the-one-about-stuff-from-a-401k-plan-provider-shouldnt-impress-you/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/329-the-one-about-stuff-from-a-401k-plan-provider-shouldnt-impress-you/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2024 03:49:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about stuff from a plan provider that should not impress you as a plan sponsor.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about stuff from a plan provider that should not impress you as a plan sponsor.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/6vevh5kucpg6gii3/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_32996b0e.mp3" length="17992618" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about stuff from a plan provider that should not impress you as a plan sponsor.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#328: That About 2025</title>
        <itunes:title>#328: That About 2025</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/328-that-about-2025/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2024 03:50:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about his predictions for 2025, as it pertains to 401(k) plans.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about his predictions for 2025, as it pertains to 401(k) plans.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/4rstbre2kc9t3yke/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_328b8hxa.mp3" length="19477964" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about his predictions for 2025, as it pertains to 401(k) plans.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#327: That One About Saying No As A 401(k) Plan Sponsor</title>
        <itunes:title>#327: That One About Saying No As A 401(k) Plan Sponsor</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/327-that-one-about-saying-no-as-a-401k-plan-sponsor/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/327-that-one-about-saying-no-as-a-401k-plan-sponsor/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:12:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about when you have to say no as a 401(k) plan sponsor.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about when you have to say no as a 401(k) plan sponsor.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/jqrct26qb4xnhbsk/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3279grh5.mp3" length="18328700" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about when you have to say no as a 401(k) plan sponsor.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#326: That One About How Plan Providers Should Deal With Employees</title>
        <itunes:title>#326: That One About How Plan Providers Should Deal With Employees</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/326-that-one-about-how-plan-providers-should-deal-with-employees/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/326-that-one-about-how-plan-providers-should-deal-with-employees/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 03:19:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about how 401(k) plan providers should deal with their employees.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about how 401(k) plan providers should deal with their employees.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/qbfmhsjsqfna697t/That_401_k_Podcast_32699toz.mp3" length="14923144" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about how 401(k) plan providers should deal with their employees.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#325: That One About End Of Year Tips For 401(k) Plan Sponsors</title>
        <itunes:title>#325: That One About End Of Year Tips For 401(k) Plan Sponsors</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/325-that-one-about-end-of-year-tips-for-401k-plan-sponsors/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/325-that-one-about-end-of-year-tips-for-401k-plan-sponsors/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2024 03:51:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>With December right around the corner, Ary Rosenbaum talks about tips for 401(k) plan sponsors as 2025 rolls around.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With December right around the corner, Ary Rosenbaum talks about tips for 401(k) plan sponsors as 2025 rolls around.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/ifrdppkadjjucdc2/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_325apdr2.mp3" length="17836582" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[With December right around the corner, Ary Rosenbaum talks about tips for 401(k) plan sponsors as 2025 rolls around.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#324: That One About Dealing With Former Employees</title>
        <itunes:title>#324: That One About Dealing With Former Employees</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/324-that-one-about-dealing-with-former-employees/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/324-that-one-about-dealing-with-former-employees/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2024 03:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum brings up 401(k) plans and the issues dealing with former employees.</p>
<p>Check that401ksite.com for further information on all our events.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum brings up 401(k) plans and the issues dealing with former employees.</p>
<p>Check that401ksite.com for further information on all our events.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/m9a6d92z8d6tmy5w/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_324963g6.mp3" length="16928707" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum brings up 401(k) plans and the issues dealing with former employees.
Check that401ksite.com for further information on all our events.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#323: That One About Small Plan Sponsors Should Consider A PEP</title>
        <itunes:title>#323: That One About Small Plan Sponsors Should Consider A PEP</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/323-that-one-about-small-plan-sponsors-should-consider-a-pep/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/323-that-one-about-small-plan-sponsors-should-consider-a-pep/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:16:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about how small plan (SEP, SIMPLE) sponsors should consider joining a PEP.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about how small plan (SEP, SIMPLE) sponsors should consider joining a PEP.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/h7egnj3t74qvnw8t/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3238va2t.mp3" length="14643483" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about how small plan (SEP, SIMPLE) sponsors should consider joining a PEP.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>that401ksite.com</itunes:author>
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        <title>#322: That One About The Telling The Truth As A 401(k) Plan Provider</title>
        <itunes:title>#322: That One About The Telling The Truth As A 401(k) Plan Provider</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/322-that-one-about-the-telling-the-truth-as-a-401k-plan-provider/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/322-that-one-about-the-telling-the-truth-as-a-401k-plan-provider/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2024 03:03:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about telling the truth as a 401(k) plan provider and why that is necessary. Check that401ksite.com on further information on all out events.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about telling the truth as a 401(k) plan provider and why that is necessary. Check that401ksite.com on further information on all out events.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/rvhrbsgv9asufut3/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3229n3nr.mp3" length="20468379" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about telling the truth as a 401(k) plan provider and why that is necessary. Check that401ksite.com on further information on all out events.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>1415</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>304</itunes:episode>
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        <title>#321: That One What 401(k) Plan Providers Never Tell Plan Sponsors</title>
        <itunes:title>#321: That One What 401(k) Plan Providers Never Tell Plan Sponsors</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/321-that-one-what-401k-plan-providers-never-tell-plan-sponsors/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/321-that-one-what-401k-plan-providers-never-tell-plan-sponsors/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2024 03:06:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about stuff that plan providers are not going to volunteer to plan sponsors about. </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about stuff that plan providers are not going to volunteer to plan sponsors about. </p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/kdq3mdwmdv4c4w7d/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_321bqd8s.mp3" length="17833273" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about stuff that plan providers are not going to volunteer to plan sponsors about. ]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>that401ksite.com</itunes:author>
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        <itunes:duration>1295</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>303</itunes:episode>
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        <title>#320: That One About Scams and Cons That Plan Sponsors Should Avoid</title>
        <itunes:title>#320: That One About Scams and Cons That Plan Sponsors Should Avoid</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/320-that-one-about-scams-and-cons-that-plan-sponsors-should-avoid/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/320-that-one-about-scams-and-cons-that-plan-sponsors-should-avoid/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2024 03:20:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about scams and cons that plan sponsors should be aware of, and avoid.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about scams and cons that plan sponsors should be aware of, and avoid.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/c2xcp326sgan6dnq/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3206hjqc.mp3" length="17933235" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about scams and cons that plan sponsors should be aware of, and avoid.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>that401ksite.com</itunes:author>
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                <itunes:episode>302</itunes:episode>
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        <title>#319: That One About SDBAs giving Plan Sponsors A Good Headache</title>
        <itunes:title>#319: That One About SDBAs giving Plan Sponsors A Good Headache</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/319-that-one-about-sdbas-giving-plan-sponsors-a-good-headache/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/319-that-one-about-sdbas-giving-plan-sponsors-a-good-headache/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2024 03:32:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about self directed brokerage accounts and how plan sponsors can get a good headache by offering them.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about self directed brokerage accounts and how plan sponsors can get a good headache by offering them.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/6v4n6v34bacusmhi/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3196p9t8.mp3" length="18729831" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about self directed brokerage accounts and how plan sponsors can get a good headache by offering them.
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        <title>#318: That One About Having No Surprises for IRS Audits</title>
        <itunes:title>#318: That One About Having No Surprises for IRS Audits</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/318-that-one-about-having-no-surprises-for-irs-audits/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/318-that-one-about-having-no-surprises-for-irs-audits/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2024 03:12:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the areas that a plan sponsor should focus on in avoiding any type of surprise on a 401(k) audit.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about the areas that a plan sponsor should focus on in avoiding any type of surprise on a 401(k) audit.</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/8heqtvmxihhyvzmx/That_401_k_Podcast_Episode_3189aach.mp3" length="18487073" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about the areas that a plan sponsor should focus on in avoiding any type of surprise on a 401(k) audit.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#317: That One About Consolidation As A Plan Provider</title>
        <itunes:title>#317: That One About Consolidation As A Plan Provider</itunes:title>
        <link>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/317-that-one-about-consolidation-as-a-plan-provider/</link>
                    <comments>https://that401kpodcast.podbean.com/e/317-that-one-about-consolidation-as-a-plan-provider/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2024 03:15:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about consolidation in the retirement plan business and what a plan provider has to do.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about consolidation in the retirement plan business and what a plan provider has to do.</p>
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        <title>#294: That One About Brutal Mistakes That 401(k) Plan Sponsors Make</title>
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        <title>#293: That One About Retirement Plan Catastrophes</title>
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        <title>#292: That One About Plan Sponsors Setting Up A New Retirement Plan</title>
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        <title>#291: That One About Struggles As A Retirement Plan Provider</title>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about dealing with the struggles as a retirement plan provider.</p>
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        <title>#290: That One About Plan Sponsors Thinking Everything is OK</title>
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        <title>#289: That One About Plan Sponsors Turning The Lights Back On</title>
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        <itunes:title>#288: That One About The Dark Side of the 401(k) Business</itunes:title>
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        <title>#287: That One About Plan Providers Needing To Be Secure After SECURE</title>
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        <title>#286: That One About The Duty Must Change For 401(k) Plan Sponsors</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about how 401(k) plan sponsors need to break the cycle of neglect and poor management.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ary Rosenbaum talks about how 401(k) plan sponsors need to break the cycle of neglect and poor management.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>#285: That One About Plan Options That 401(k) Plan Sponsors Should Pass On</title>
        <itunes:title>#285: That One About Plan Options That 401(k) Plan Sponsors Should Pass On</itunes:title>
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        <title>#284: That One About Tasks That Plan Sponsors Can't Neglect</title>
        <itunes:title>#284: That One About Tasks That Plan Sponsors Can't Neglect</itunes:title>
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        <title>#283: That One About What Other 401(k) Plan Providers aren't doing</title>
        <itunes:title>#283: That One About What Other 401(k) Plan Providers aren't doing</itunes:title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ary Rosenbaum talks about what plan providers can do to increase business: do what other plan providers aren't doing.</p>
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