RV Small Talk Podcast

Long Time, No Talk: A Familiar Voice Returns - Episode 237

Mon, 04 May 2026 10:34:56 -0500

We decided to mix things up for this one… PJ and Lindsay went in completely blindfolded with zero prep—and we brought in a surprise guest that longtime listeners are definitely going to recognize.

What starts as chaos (and a little screaming—fair warning 😅) turns into one of those conversations that just feels like home.

Our old friend Clint is back, and a lot has changed. He’s traded the RV world for life out on a Texas ranch, raising cattle, fixing fences, chasing kids, and figuring out what it really means to slow down and build something that lasts. It’s not polished, it’s not easy—but it’s real, and it fits him in a way that just makes sense.

We talk about everything from ranch life and community to overlanding, new RV brands, and what’s been happening back at the shop. Mostly though, it’s just us catching up like no time has passed.

If you’ve been listening for a while, this one’s going to hit you right in the feels.

Built Different: How a Coffee Trailer Stands Out - Episode 236

Thu, 23 Apr 2026 16:35:35 -0500

What happens when a love for coffee meets a passion for community, and gets put on wheels? In this episode, we sit down with Steven and Leilani, the duo behind A MI MANERA Coffee Company, a one-of-a-kind coffee trailer blending culture, creativity, and craft.

From homemade syrups inspired by family traditions to a lowrider-style trailer turning heads across Central Texas, they’re not just serving coffee, they’re building a space where people can slow down, connect, and feel at home. We dive into how a Thanksgiving conversation turned into a full-fledged business, the challenges of launching a mobile coffee shop, and why they’re choosing experience over speed in a fast-paced coffee world.

If you’ve ever dreamed of starting your own business, or just want to hear a story about doing things your way, this episode is for you.

The Perfect Movies To Watch When Camping! - Episode 235

Mon, 13 Apr 2026 11:12:45 -0500

In this episode of the RV Small Talk podcast, we’re diving into a surprisingly controversial topic: watching movies while camping. Is it ruining the experience… or making it even better?

We’re building a super casual, very real camping movie list—the kinds of movies you actually end up watching in an RV when it’s raining, too hot, or you just want to wind down at night.

Some of the movies we talk about:

Into the Spider-Verse / Across the Spider-Verse
Charlotte’s Web
Bolt (for some reason 😂)
The Blair Witch Project
The Shining
Cabin in the Woods
RV
We’re the Millers
Ernest Goes to Camp
The Parent Trap
50 First Dates
The Proposal
The Long, Long Trailer
Garden State
Cast Away
Into the Wild
Grizzly Man
FernGully

We also get into:

🌧️ What to do when camping plans go sideways (rain, heat, kids… all of it)
🍿 Why movies just hit different when you’re camping
🎬 Easy ways to set up outdoor movie nights (projector, DVDs, downloads, etc.)
🎉 Info about the Texas Tiny Trailer Rally & Truck Camper Rally

Whether you’re totally against screens while camping or secretly love a movie night in the camper… this one’s for you.

Cooking Like A Pro At The Campsite! - Episode 234

Tue, 07 Apr 2026 09:53:34 -0500

If you’ve ever stressed about what to cook while camping, this episode is for you. We’re talking all things campsite food—what actually works, what’s way overcomplicated, and how to make meals easier without sacrificing flavor. From hot dogs and simple breakfasts to foil packet dinners and campsite desserts, we share what we’ve learned (sometimes the hard way) about keeping food simple and enjoyable when you’re outdoors. We get into the reality of overpacking vs. underpacking, why a little prep before your trip makes a huge difference, and how a few good spices or sauces can completely change a meal. There’s also plenty of real-life moments in here—like why you shouldn’t go grocery shopping hungry, how breakfast tacos somehow taste better at a campsite, and why cooking outside just hits different. At the end of the day, camping food doesn’t need to be fancy. It just needs to be easy, a little fun, and something you can enjoy with the people around you.

Burp Your Camper?! The Trendy Spring Cleaning Hack Every RVer Needs - Episode 233

Mon, 30 Mar 2026 12:31:25 -0500

Ever opened your camper after winter and instantly regretted it? That stale smell hits fast. In this episode, we start with a simple idea that is getting popular lately: burping your camper. Just open everything up and let fresh air move through before you do anything else. It is the easiest way to make the rest of your cleaning way more manageable.

From there, we talk through the basics that actually matter. Check your seals, look over your tires, give everything a real clean, and make sure your camper is stocked so your first trip is not spent fixing problems or missing essentials. Nothing complicated, just the things that make camping feel good right away.

The Biggest Mistakes When Boondocking! What To Avoid! - Episode 232

Mon, 23 Mar 2026 12:01:22 -0500

In this episode of RV Small Talk, Lindsay and PJ talk about what it’s really like to go boondocking, camping without hookups and a little outside your comfort zone. They get into the things people worry about most, like running out of power, using too much water, and figuring out where you’re going when there’s no cell service.

Along the way, they share stories from their own experiences and from customers who’ve tried it, including what can go wrong and how to avoid some of those mistakes. The conversation stays practical but easygoing, with tips on understanding your RV, planning ahead, and adjusting your habits when you’re off the grid.

They also touch on the mindset side of it, because things don’t always go as planned, and that’s kind of the point. If you’ve ever been curious about boondocking or just want to feel a little more confident trying it for the first time, this episode is a good place to start.

Trade Or Sell Your RV? - Don't Lose Money!

Mon, 16 Mar 2026 08:03:42 -0500

Thinking about upgrading your RV but not sure what to do with the one you already have? In this episode of RV Small Talk, Lindsey and PJ talk through the two main options RV owners face: trading it in or selling it yourself. After the excitement of RV show season, it’s a question that comes up all the time.

They share what really happens during a trade in, why dealerships offer the numbers they do, and what kind of work goes into getting a used RV ready to sell. They also talk about the other route, selling it yourself. That can mean more money in your pocket, but it also means cleaning the camper, listing it online, answering messages, meeting buyers, and handling the paperwork.

Along the way they discuss things like trade in tax credits, why custom upgrades don’t always increase resale value, and the small details people don’t think about until they’re actually trying to sell a camper. It’s a practical, honest conversation meant to help you figure out which option makes the most sense for you.

Secrets Of An RV Show! What All Goes Into The Show!

Sat, 07 Mar 2026 12:09:55 -0600

Ever wondered what really happens behind the scenes at an RV show? In this episode of RV Small Talk, PJ from Princess Craft RV and Lindsey Gabbard pull back the curtain and share the real story of what it takes to prepare for a big RV show. From the chaos of setting up dozens of trailers to the truth about “show prices,” promos, and last-minute changes, they reveal secrets most people never see. You’ll hear about the intense preparation, the constant layout changes when units sell before the show, and how dealerships try to guide visitors through every aisle so you don’t miss anything. They also break down how RV show deals really work, what to watch out for with pricing and fees, and why you should always ask for a drive-out price when comparing trailers. If you’ve ever attended an RV show or are thinking about buying a camper, this episode gives you insider knowledge that can help you make smarter decisions.

Why It’s Getting Harder to Find Campsites (And What Campers Are Doing About It) - Episode 228

Sun, 15 Feb 2026 16:31:38 -0600

Why is it getting harder to find campsites? Are younger campers changing the industry? And what surprising trends are shaping the future of camping?

In this episode of RV Small Talk, we break down the latest camping data and uncover what it really means for RVers, tent campers, and outdoor adventurers alike. From record numbers of campers hitting the road to the growing challenges of reservations, free camping, AI trip planning, and shifting demographics, there’s a LOT happening in the camping world.

Whether you're a seasoned traveler or just getting started, these insights will help you understand where camping is headed and how to stay ahead of the curve.

👉 Check out The Dyrt’s full camping report:
🔗 https://thedyrt.com/magazine/press/camping-report/

👉 Listen to our previous episode with The Dyrt’s founder:
🔗 https://youtu.be/y19pFSbAUkQ

RV Essentials Most Campers Forget! - Episode 227

Sun, 08 Feb 2026 16:30:00 -0600

Planning an RV trip? Before you hit the road, make sure you’re not missing the small things that can turn into big problems. In this episode of the RV Small Talk podcast, the crew breaks down the must-have gear too many campers forget — like portable air compressors for low tires, simple tool kits for quick fixes, and tire pressure monitoring systems that can help you avoid serious damage. It’s all about being prepared so you can spend less time stressing and more time enjoying the adventure.

They also get into the everyday essentials that make camping easier, from spare fuses and extra bulbs to surge protectors that safeguard your RV and clear sewer hose elbows that take the guesswork out of setup. Packed with real-world tips from RV service pros, this episode is perfect for anyone who wants smoother trips, fewer surprises, and a better overall camping experience — whether you’re brand new to RV life or already a road warrior.

Christmas on the Road: Traditions, Chaos, and Camping for the Holidays

Sat, 20 Dec 2025 11:34:44 -0600

What would Christmas look like if you spent it in an RV instead of at home? In this holiday episode of the RV Small Talk Podcast, Lindsay and PJ dive into the idea of camping for Christmas—without ever having done it themselves. They talk traditions, expectations, decorations, food (lots of food), weather worries, campground chaos, and whether taking Christmas on the road creates magic… or just a different kind of chaos.

From cinnamon roll traditions and Christmas puzzles to decorating campers, missing loved ones, and embracing imperfect holidays, this conversation explores why we cling to traditions—and why letting some of them go might lead to the best stories of all. Whether you camp for the holidays or stay cozy at home, this episode might just change how you think about Christmas.

Why Regular First Aid Kits Fail | What Redi Does Instead! - Ep 224

Sat, 13 Dec 2025 10:00:00 -0600

In this episode, we sit down and talk about what being prepared really means in everyday life. We are joined by Olivia from Redi to share the story behind the kit and why it was created after a real life emergency. We talk through what makes Redi different from a traditional first aid kit, how it is designed around real world scenarios, and why readiness is about confidence, not fear. From RV travel and road trips to daily life surprises, this conversation is about being ready for whatever comes your way and still living life to the fullest.

The Ultimate RV and Camping Gift Guide for the Holidays - Ep 223

Wed, 10 Dec 2025 13:00:00 -0600

It’s holiday gifting season and we’re making it way easier to shop for the campers and RV lovers in your life. In this episode we share a mix of practical gear, clever tools, cozy comforts, and totally fun surprises that work for every kind of camper. Whether they’re brand new to RV life or have been on the road for years, we found ideas that fit every personality and every price point.

From items that make campsite setup smoother to gadgets that make cooking more fun and even a few quirky gifts that are sure to get a laugh, this episode is packed with things people will actually use and enjoy. If you’re looking for something thoughtful, unique, or just plain entertaining, you’ll probably find it here.

🎁 Gift links below

RoverTac 14-in-1 Multitool Camping Axe Hatchet: https://amzn.to/3LW3Yun

Camco Camper/RV EZ Level: https://amzn.to/4pBSyud

Franklin Sensors Light Level, Turns Green When Level: https://amzn.to/3XT9XTb

The Americanizer - RV Sewage Adapter for Cassettes: https://amzn.to/44pr1E2

Rolling Grill Basket, Removable Wooden Handle: https://amzn.to/43QWkYm

STANLEY Perfect Brew Pour Over Set | 12 oz Camp Mug with Lid Included: https://amzn.to/49I1fhZ

THE S'MORES COMPANY - Glow in the Dark Marshmallow Roasting Sticks: https://amzn.to/48mW6cG

Camping Journal: Family RV Travel Logbook: https://amzn.to/49KgoPS

Magnetic Chess Game with Full-Size Stones, Magnet Game with String: https://amzn.to/3MpROda

50 States, 5,000 Ideas: Where to Go, When to Go, What to See, What to Do: https://amzn.to/4aiZEiL

Cliganic 10 Pack Mosquito Repellent Bracelets for Adults & Kids: https://amzn.to/44uE3jx

Heated Vest For Men 7.4V Fast Charge Large Capacity Battery: https://amzn.to/4okkiSS

Lightsaber Lightup Chopsticks: https://amzn.to/4pzroUz

The Screaming Goat (Book & Figure): https://amzn.to/43WDAGJ

LED Flashlight Gloves Rechargeable: https://amzn.to/4oh0RKZ

Emotional Support Pickles by Relatable, Cuddly Stuffed Animals and Toys: https://amzn.to/48jK2sB

Coleman Color Changing LED Citronella Outdoor Scented Candle: https://amzn.to/4afpsfx

Magic Campfire Fire Color Changing Packets for Fire Pit: https://amzn.to/48q86Kx

Himal Collapsible Portable Corn Hole Boards: https://amzn.to/48bpF0E

Why Scout Campers Are Redefining the Truck Camper Market!

Sun, 07 Dec 2025 10:00:00 -0600

Scout Campers joins the RV Small Talk Podcast to discuss how their lightweight, composite-built truck campers are changing expectations in the industry. We cover the origins of Scout, the philosophy behind its minimalist design, and why so many buyers are moving toward simpler, self-sufficient camping setups.

This episode walks through Scout’s construction approach, their component-based interiors, diesel heat systems, filtration options, and what makes their campers suitable for mid-size and full-size trucks. We also talk about how the brand grew, how the models got their names, and what sets them apart from traditional truck campers.

Exploring Harvest Hosts: Unique RV Stays at Breweries, Farms, Wineries & More

Sat, 22 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0600

This conversation dives into the world of Harvest Hosts, an RV membership program that connects travelers with over 5,500 unique small-business locations—including wineries, breweries, alpaca farms, museums, wildlife rescues, and even missile silos—for free overnight camping. Representatives discuss how the program works, the benefits for both RVers and hosts, surprising and unusual stay locations, membership pricing, how hosts are vetted, and trends in the RV community. Packed with fun stories, humor, and travel insights, this is a lively look at how Harvest Hosts creates memorable experiences while supporting local businesses.

The Truck Camper Market Is Exploding and Nobody Saw It Coming!

Sat, 15 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0600

In this interview we sit down with Gordon and Angela from Truck Camper Magazine, the definitive source for everything happening in the truck camper world. They bring years of industry insight and firsthand factory experience to explain how the market has evolved, why demand is rising, and how the Overland and RV communities are influencing each other in powerful new ways.

Gordon and Angela walk us through the rapid changes happening across the industry. They discuss the rise of luxury triple slide campers from brands like Host, the growth of rugged flatbed builds, and the new wave of hybrid models that combine comfort, storage, lithium power, solar capability and off road durability. They explain how Overland Expo played a major role in bringing both markets together and why companies are now intentionally designing for crossover appeal.

They also talk about the realities inside the factories, the challenges of material shortages, the shifting direction of the RV market and why truck camper lines are performing better than many traditional segments. According to Gordon and Angela, customers now have more choice than ever with more than forty serious manufacturers offering everything from minimalist rodeo style campers to massive luxury builds.

If you want expert insight from the people who track the truck camper industry every single day, this conversation with Gordon and Angela is the perfect guide. Learn where the market is heading, why it is growing so quickly and what these changes mean for anyone looking to hit the road in a truck camper.

Safari Condo’s Alto Trailer: The Lightweight RV Changing Travel Forever - Episode 220

Sat, 08 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0600

In this episode of RV Small Talk, we sit down with the innovators behind Safari Condo, a Canadian company that has redefined the way we think about RV travel. Builders of the groundbreaking Alto trailer, Safari Condo has gained a cult following for their lightweight, aerodynamic designs that are as efficient as they are beautiful. Learn how a passion for aviation led to a family business that has flourished for over 27 years. Dominique and François share the fascinating backstory of Safari Condo, from the very first prototype to the highly sought-after Alto — a model that boasts a sleek teardrop shape, retractable glass roof, and eco-friendly manufacturing. We discuss the inspiration behind the Alto’s unique construction, its impressive fuel economy, and the engineering choices that make these trailers some of the most durable and innovative in the industry. Whether you're a seasoned RVer, considering your first travel trailer, or just curious about clever design, this episode dives deep into the passion and precision that set Safari Condo apart.

Before You Hit the Road: Why You Need An RV Inspection w/ Cozy Camper

Sat, 01 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0500

Buying an RV is a big deal, and if you’re not looking closely, you could end up with a lot more than you bargained for. In this episode, PJ sits down with Mike from Cozy Camper, a former police officer who now inspects RVs full-time across Texas. He talks about what he finds during inspections, why even brand-new rigs often need a second look, and how buyers can avoid surprises down the road.

Mike shares stories from real inspections, from fresh-off-the-lot RVs with hidden issues to used units that looked great in photos but had major problems underneath. He explains how inspections can help buyers negotiate or walk away, and why he and his wife, Elizabeth, have built a business around helping people feel confident in their RV purchase.

If you’re shopping for an RV or just curious about how much goes into owning one, you’ll find practical advice and real-world experience in this conversation. Mike also talks about what it’s like living full-time in an RV while running a business, and what keeps him passionate about helping others hit the road with confidence.

From Chicken Coops to Cutting-Edge Campers: The Ember RV Story

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:00:00 -0500

Ashley Bontrager Lehman, founder of Ember RV, shares her remarkable journey from a family legacy at Jayco—born in a barn and two chicken coops—to launching one of the most innovative RV companies in today’s market. We dive into entrepreneurship during a pandemic, redefining RV design, and the relentless pursuit of quality. If you love origin stories, innovation, and a little grit, this episode is for you.

The Haven Launch: An Interview with Jesse Mullet, nüCamp CEO

Sat, 18 Oct 2025 10:00:00 -0500

In this episode, we sit down with Jesse Mullet, CEO of nüCamp, to dive into the story and inspiration behind the Haven—the latest innovation redefining what a modern camper can be. Jesse shares how the Haven was envisioned as a true escape from the chaos of everyday life, offering comfort, craftsmanship, and connection to nature in a way that only nüCamp can deliver. From the design journey to the feedback that shaped it, this conversation gives you a behind-the-scenes look at the passion, heritage, and forward-thinking vision driving one of the most anticipated campers in the industry.

Back On The Road! New Season, New Adventures - Episode 216

Sat, 11 Oct 2025 10:00:00 -0500

PJ and Lindsay are back behind the microphones for a new season of RV Small Talk. In this episode, they catch up on what’s been happening at Princess Craft RV, talk about upcoming events like the RV show at Dell Diamond and the Texas Tiny Trailer Rally, and share stories from PJ’s California trip through the redwoods. From treehouses to teardrops to a surprise flat tire, it’s a fun and easy conversation that gets you excited for all the things coming up.

The Legend Leaves the Lot Episode 215

Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:00:00 -0500

It’s the end of an era… but not without some laughs, memories, and maybe a few happy tears. In this very special episode, we say “see ya later” to our very own Clint - longtime host of the RV Small Talk Podcast and Marketing Genius at Princess Craft RV.

Truck Campers and Rock n Roll with Jimmy Rip episode 214

Tue, 20 May 2025 17:01:00 -0500

Jimmy Rip has been everywhere, mainly due to a life of touring, recording, producing, and gigging with some of the top names in rock and blues we've ever seen! He has notably recorded, produced, and played with the likes of Jerry Lee Lewis, Mick Jagger, Debbie Harry, Paul Collins and the Beat, Michael Monroe, Henry Lee Summer, Tom Verlaine, and more. Never one to slow down, Jimmy is hitting the road in his first truck camper, a Cirrus 820 by nuCamp RV! We have his story!

Spring RV Cleanup and Maintenance for 2025 Adventures

Fri, 09 May 2025 19:01:00 -0500

Exploring 2024 Camping Trends: Surprises and Insights

Fri, 18 Apr 2025 19:02:00 -0500

Join Clint, PJ, and Lindsay in this insightful episode of the RV Small Talk Podcast as they explore the latest trends and data in the camping industry, focusing on the year 2024 and beyond. The team analyzes a comprehensive document prepared by The Dirt and Toyota Trucks, highlighting surprising findings and key insights that challenge common perceptions about camping demographics and habits.

Discover how the camping landscape is evolving with more diverse age groups participating, the impact of the economy on camping activities, and the intriguing rise and fall of glamping. Whether you're an outdoor enthusiast or just curious about the camping world, this episode is packed with eye-opening discussions that offer a fresh perspective on how and why people camp today.

Are Used RVs Priced Right? episode 211

Thu, 16 Jan 2025 15:21:40 -0600

The used RV market seems hot, but are the prices people ask for realistic? It's hard to say, but we look at several examples of used RVs online and see how the asking prices compare to the JD Power prices for those RVs. Are they close? Are they way off? If so, why? And which is most realistic?

Full-Time RV Life with Truck Campers with guests OurFulltimeAdventure | episode 210

Thu, 05 Dec 2024 19:04:00 -0600

Join Ashley and Grayson from Our Full-Time Adventure as they share their journey into full-time RV life with a truck camper and two dogs. From propane explosions to becoming brand ambassadors for nüCamp RV, their story is filled with adventure, challenges, and life-changing moments on the road. Discover what it’s really like to live full-time in a truck camper and the importance of good insurance, quality campers, and customer service.

Show Note Link: https://rvsmalltalk.com/Full-Time RV Life with Truck Campers/

2024 RV Gift Guide for Your Favorite Camper! episode 209

Tue, 26 Nov 2024 19:01:00 -0600

It's that time of year, again! Indeed, we have a fun list of gift ideas for your favorite RVer... or yourself! There's something here for anybody who enjoys travel, adventure, and sight-seeing. You'll find safety items, comfort things, essentials, things for the kitchen and bathroom, and more!

Cool Weather RV Maintenance You NEED to Do! ep 208

Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:01:00 -0600

it's starting to cool off, so what are you going to do to keep the RVing good times rolling? We brought Matt in from the Princess Craft RV service department and talked all things cool-weather RV care!

10 Questions Kids Ask on RV and Camping Trips episode 207

Wed, 16 Oct 2024 19:03:00 -0500

You know you've heard these questions! You likely asked them when you were a kid! So, what are our 10 most common questions kids ask on RV and camping trips? What are our responses? You'll have to listen to find out!

RV Injury Admissions | episode 206

Thu, 03 Oct 2024 19:01:00 -0500

Bumps, bruises, cuts, scrapes, and annoying little splinters. These things just happen, but sometimes surprisingly or embarrassingly. We aren't afraid to share our clumsy humanity! Join us for a fun one!

Growing Up in RVs episode 205

Thu, 26 Sep 2024 01:01:00 -0500

Can you imagine where you could watch the RV industry as it develops products, changes styles, and integrates new technologies? What if you could look on as manufacturers share their newest innovations with RV dealerships, and ultimately the public? You'd learn the inside lingo, and you'd pick up on what the RV masses are asking for. Chase Rhode grew up with a dad who helped develop and represent many RV products through the years, and now he represents manufacturers and products to dealerships and consumers. Listen in to his experience!

Escape with Confidence MDC USA part 2 | episode 204

Thu, 19 Sep 2024 01:01:00 -0500

How does MDC USA manage quality control of their products to deliver a top-notch owner experience to the US market? Vaughn Hindley, founder of MDC Trailers, sits down with the RV Small Talk Podcast to discuss how MDC USA keeps an eye on the quality of engineering, manufacturing, and features in their capable and comfortable off-road camping trailers.

Are You a Hot RVer? episode 203

Thu, 12 Sep 2024 15:58:27 -0500

It can be HOT across so much of North America during the summer months, but we don't want you to stop adventuring! So, what are Lindsay and Clint going to do about it? Well, how about some ideas, tips, and perspectives to keep the motivation up and the adventures alive?

Explore the US "Outback" with MDC-USA episode 202

Fri, 06 Sep 2024 14:27:49 -0500

The Australian geography requires even average Australian RVs to be capable of activities most US RV owners never approach. That makes campers like MDC-USA trailers more nimble and rugged than most US models of the same dimensions and amenities. Imagine regularly facing expanses where 300 miles separate the locations for food, water, and fuel. MDC builds for those who cross-cross landscapes and scenarios like this regularly. Today's guest is Vaughn Hindley, founder of MDC and MDC-USA.

It's Okay to Change Your Camper! episode 201

Fri, 30 Aug 2024 16:09:06 -0500

Life and seasons change! If your camper no longer works for you, there's no shame in finding the one that fits, whether it be size or amenities. We have special guests Felicia and Tim, who are friends and customers of Princess Craft RV, to talk about their RV journey and the camper seasons they've navigated!

Simplified RVing or Bring It All?! episode 200

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:22:24 -0500

If camping was supposed to be simple, and we're supposed to reset from all the hustle and bustle... what's going on with all the gadgets, gear, and trinkets we've amassed for travel? Is it all running away with us? Are we able to get the rest we are chasing?

RE-Cast! Stick-n-Tin vs Aluminum & Fiberglass RVs | episode 199

Thu, 08 Aug 2024 12:30:55 -0500

One of our best episodes is about the ways RVs are constructed. If you're in the market for a trailer, it is great to know how they're put together and what you can expect from an owner's experience. We'll tell you!

A Better Backup Camera for Your RV with Brand Motion | episode 198

Fri, 02 Aug 2024 11:54:15 -0500

A grainy image and useless footage when you need clarity the most are the biggest complaints for rearview and backup camera owners. Brand Motion is upping the equipment game for RV owners, so you get the images and features that make life easier and safer. Let's talk about what Brand Motion Cameras are doing!

Trailers Under 3,500 Pounds with Bathrooms episode 197

Thu, 25 Jul 2024 00:01:00 -0500

You know what your tow capacity is and you know you want a bathroom in your trailer. Are there any quality options out there for you? Are they worthy of your hard-earned dollar? Will you, your loved ones, and your stuff fit? Let's look at camping trailers under 3,500 lbs. that include bathroom facilities!

RV Batteries & RV Solar with Renogy Experst episode 196

Thu, 18 Jul 2024 05:00:00 -0500

As RV battery and RV solar technology continue to develop, it's always good to get experts in the studio to help us, as normal users, grasp the ins and outs of the gadgets and gizmos we're putting in our RVs. So, we have product and implementation gurus from Renogy joining us this week for a good discussion on the tech and the products that are currently going into RVs for longer and more comfortable stays!

A Family RV Business episode 195

Tue, 09 Jul 2024 11:39:16 -0500

28 years ago, PJ and Richard purchased a small local RV manufacturing business named Princess Craft. Since that time, the business has thrived and expanded, and family has always been in the mix. Today, PJ talks with Lindsay and Sue Ann about what it's like to work together at Princess Craft as a family and as co-workers.

Overlanding is Just Another Way to Enjoy the Journey | episode 194

Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:40:19 -0500

The urge to get out there and explore the world is common to many of us, but it's always worthwhile to expand our thoughts on how we travel to break out of a rut... or to get into one. We brought in Chris Devereaux, an integral part of the Texas Overland community, to talk about this way, or lifestyle, that so many people have gravitated to. The idea, find as much enjoyment, adventure, and experience as you can while traveling, not just when you arrive at a destination. Finding lesser-known and lesser-used paths, negotiating with nature a bit more on her terms, and more can add up to memories that either enhance your travel or even become the reason you travel. Check out this episode with Chris Devereaux, Cody Kneupper, and Clint Sandberg on the RV Small Talk Podcast!

Campers Without Bathrooms... Would You Rather? episode 193

Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:12:19 -0500

Interested in a camper that doesn't have a bathroom? It's usually a clear yes or no when considering an RV purchase. People quickly, almost without thinking, give a clear response to the question, "are you looking for something with a bathroom? But, there are lots of options out there that are sold every year with the "feature" of being designed without a bathroom. Take a listen!

100% Electric RVs and What You Need To Know | episode 192

Fri, 14 Jun 2024 14:46:36 -0500

Fully electric RVs are already on the scene, and we're all for the developing technologies that make it possible. But, you don't simply camp and travel the same way with an all-electric rig as you have been with standard electric and propane equipment that we're all used to. This week, we explore how you have to know and think about things just a bit differently to get the most out of 100% electric RVs.

Used vs New RVs in 2024 | episode 191

Wed, 12 Jun 2024 10:00:07 -0500

RV shoppers are on the hunt for the best deal more than ever in 2024. They won't be deterred from finding a camper that will work for them, but they will search and apply pressure for the very best deal they can get on a model that fits their needs. So, where are the value deals? Are the best prospects in the new or used RV markets?

Today's RV World and Our Hopes | episode 190

Thu, 30 May 2024 08:55:42 -0500

In his episode, PJ and Clint discuss the current RV industry landscape in the first half of 2024. Also, they discuss the directions they think and hope manufacturers will go with product development.

Demystifying Truck Campers | Episode 189

Fri, 17 May 2024 14:46:29 -0500

To many in the RVing world, Truck Campers are the most confounding segment of the RV market. The questions are many, and all too often dismissive answers like "you wouldn't understand" or "you either get it or you don't" are where conversations leave off. That doesn't have to be the case! Let's pull the veil back and get a clear view of what makes truck campers and their avid adherents tick!

Best Places to Camp in Texas! episode 188

Thu, 18 Apr 2024 08:36:07 -0500

If you're looking to dip your toes into the Texas camping scene, and maybe start a life-long love for all of Texas's scenic varieties, we have an episode for you! We're going to give you a fantastic list of parks to help you see a wide range of what Texas has to offer.

Let the Stars Guide Your Travel Plans | ep 187

Wed, 10 Apr 2024 11:49:11 -0500

Adventurers and travelers have been looking to the stars for a very long time to guide their travels. We've gotten away from astral navigation in modern times, but the sky still provides so many reasons to go here, there, and everywhere. In this episode, PJ, Lindsay, and Clint explore different types of celestial events that are worth traveling to see.

The Most Stunning Trailer You Can Rent | episode 186 with RVDillo

Thu, 04 Apr 2024 19:02:00 -0500

Meet a need, even if it's one people didn't know they had... and meet that need in a great location, location, location! That seems to be the recipe for the RVdillo, a growing destination trailer rental business in one of the sweetest spots in Central Texas. PJ and Lindsay from the RV Small Talk Podcast wanted to know more about the RVdillo team and inspiration after seeing the jaw-dropping custom graphics on their rental trailer. So, here's that conversation!

Behind the Scenes of an RV Show | episode 185

Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:02:51 -0500

RV Shows are super exciting, but boy, can they take a lot of planning and energy to pull off! In this episode, PJ and Lindsay interview Jennifer and Leslie, who together make sure the Austin RV Expo happens every year, and they give us some stories and insight into what it takes to make a great RV show happen!

Designing the Next Great RV with inTech RV - episode 184

Thu, 01 Feb 2024 10:38:43 -0600

How does an innovative RV manufacturer continue to bring fresh products to the market? What inspires new directions, designs, and feature sets? Well, we tapped Keith at inTech RV for a conversation about just that!

Spring Activities for RV Enthusiasts - episode 183

Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:23:18 -0600

What's going to add that perfect amount of flavor and motivation to your springtime RV trips? Do you need a boost? Do you need to heighten the plans a little? We have some activities in mind, and we've included the healthy reasons why we should give all of these ideas a try!

Have RV Dealerships Learned Anything? | episode 182

Wed, 17 Jan 2024 10:33:23 -0600

We took the show on the road, and we ran into Phil Ingrassia, the president of the RVDA! PJ and Phil talk about what lessons have been learned in the past tumultuous years for both the RV industry and RV consumers.

The Power to Go RVing with Go Power Solar | episode 181

Wed, 27 Dec 2023 14:00:57 -0600

What's the latest in technology for powering your RV off-grid? We met up with Go Power at the 2023 RVDA Expo and learned a bit about what's available and what people might need to achieve the camping setups they're hoping for.

Bring Your Inflatables with You when You RV! | episode 180

Wed, 13 Dec 2023 15:14:21 -0600

In the never-ending quest to bring more creature comforts with us when we RV, we all start looking at packability, weight, and design. Well, it's tough to beat things that squash down and conform to almost any shape for travel, but expand and add comfort at the campground! So, join Lindsay and Clint as they look at some of the best new options RVers have in RV and travel-related inflatable goods!

Texas K-9 Overland inspires Self-Sufficient Travel | episode 179

Thu, 07 Dec 2023 19:01:00 -0600

Tyler Hunter from TXK9Overland has it figured out. After years of urban rat-race entrapment, he's taken to a life of travel, exploration, and nature! Along with his two dogs, Duke and Lacy, Tyler has navigated tough terrain and camped in places you and I have only dreamed of. Join us as we find out from Tyler how he got to this place, and why it's possibly the best thing, ever!

The 2023 RV Gift Guide Episode! 178

Thu, 30 Nov 2023 19:01:00 -0600

This year's RV Gift Guide is finally out, and hopefully, it'll help with those last-minute gift ideas for ever-difficult-to-buy RVers! You know the ones we're talking about. Maybe you'll find the perfect gift for them—or maybe the perfect gift for you!

Matt’s RV Reviews... Us! episode 177

Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:42:47 -0600

Welcome to a special episode of RV Small Talk Podcast, where we dive into the world of RV reviewing on YouTube. Join your hosts, PJ and Lindsay, as they sit down with none other than Matt from Matt's RV Reviews, one of the leading voices in the YouTube RV reviewing community.

In this episode, Matt shares his journey and experiences as a recreational vehicle reviewer on YouTube. Get ready to go behind the scenes and discover the highs and lows of Matt's journey and channel growth. But that's not all – the conversation goes further as PJ, Lindsay, and Matt explore the current trends and innovations in the RV industry, offering valuable insights for both seasoned RV enthusiasts and those new to the scene.

Tune in as the RV Small Talk Podcast and Matt's RV Reviews join forces to bring you an engaging and informative discussion about the RV lifestyle, industry trends, and the unique perspective of being a YouTube RV reviewer. Get ready for a ride filled with laughter, stories, and a wealth of knowledge about the fascinating world of recreational vehicles.

A Banker Explains RV Financing | episode 176

Wed, 15 Nov 2023 19:01:00 -0600

Welcome to the next episode of the RV Small Talk Podcast! In episode 176, get ready to dive into the dollars and cents of RV life as we sit down with the incredible Teri Lambright Krauss, a banking wizard with a passion for RV financing. Join your favorite hosts, PJ, Lindsay, and Clint from Princess Craft RV, as they embark on a financial adventure with Teri, exploring the ins and outs of RV financing from a banker's perspective. It's a rollercoaster of money matters, but don't worry; we promise to keep it lighthearted and fun as we uncover the secrets to making your RV dreams a reality. So, grab your headphones and get ready to laugh and learn in this money-smart episode where RV financing meets small talk magic!

Trains RVers Need to Ride! | episode 175

Tue, 10 Oct 2023 22:01:17 -0500

The magic, the romance, and the pace just draw us toward the railways! If you're an RVer who loves scenic drives, you're likely to be the type to love the feeling of gliding through incredible landscapes on the rails. Get on track with Lindsay and Clint as they talk about some truly dreamy train rides that should be on everybody's bucket lists!

Lightship RV’s EV Trailer for Campers! episode 174

Thu, 05 Oct 2023 13:24:34 -0500

Y'all, this EV camping trailer from Lightship RV is bonkers! In the best way, of course. If the world is going to eventually go the EV route, trailers like this are going to help to usher in the electrified age of RV travel.

Don’t Make These RV Road Mistakes! episode 173

Thu, 21 Sep 2023 16:59:34 -0500

What are the most common reasons RVers end up in accidents and trip-ending wrecks? We take a look and discuss how to stay safe on the roadways!

RV Time Capsule with 1979 Trailer Life Magazine | ep. 172

Thu, 31 Aug 2023 11:24:27 -0500

We found a 1979 copy of Trailer Life magazine, and it's incredible! The things that have changed and the things that are still true and relevant today are really amazing. Join the RV Small Talk Podcast team as we muse about the similarities and differences between the RV world yesterday and today!

Rebuilding Lives with Sister Corps. episode 171

Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:53:51 -0500

Traveling with the purpose to serve people, often the ones who are overlooked, is a mission for an incredible group of women, known as the Sister Corps. Gena Curtis joined the RV Small Talk Podcast to bring us up to speed on how the Sister Corps. was born from the heart to uplift and support that's found in the Sisters on the Fly movement. And now, the Sister Corps. puts tools in the hands of skilled women to really impact lives around the U.S.

Spot a Quality RV | episode 170

Fri, 04 Aug 2023 19:01:00 -0500

Sometimes we need to tell our eyes what they're looking for, or they'll just tell us what's enticing to them! The same is true when we're looking at RVs! So, if you want to know what to look for to make sure you're getting an RV that will really work for you, take a listen to this episode of the RV Small Talk Podcast!

Best Haunts to Visit in the US episode 169

Fri, 28 Jul 2023 17:04:25 -0500

You know we love themes to help us plan trips! What about a road trip to see and possibly stay at some of the most haunted hotels, inns, and bed-and-breakfasts we can find across this fair land! You gotta check this episode out with PJ, Clint, and Lindsay!

Personalizing Your RV | episode 168

Sat, 22 Jul 2023 11:26:24 -0500

Making your RV your very own often means adding to (or taking away from) what the manufacturer originally put on it. Only you know what works for you, right?! In this episode of the RV Small Talk Podcast, PJ, Lindsay, and Clint talk about various things they've seen or done to RVs to give them a touch better fit or feel for the owner. There may even be some controversy in this one!

El Nino for RVers with Avery Tomasco! ep.167

Fri, 14 Jul 2023 08:50:47 -0500

When you want to understand how the weather will affect your travel plans, you go to a friend who specializes in the field! Avery Tomasco joins us for the second time to talk about weather and RV travel, and this time we want to know what our current El Nino weather pattern means for all of us who want to go places and see things!

The Best Sites with Campground Views | ep. 166

Fri, 07 Jul 2023 12:18:39 -0500

It can be difficult to find a site at all, sometimes... but who wants to arrive to find out that the site they've reserved is terrible or doesn't fit their needs? Well, we brought in Mark Koep from Campgroudviews.com to show us an easier, better way to find and reserve fantastic camping locations! Join PJ, Lindsay, and Clint as they learn about this powerful tool for RVers and campers of all kinds!

Historical Travel Plans with Thomas Cutter | ep. 165

Sun, 25 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0500

We all need to find our angle or perspective that guides our travel goals and plans. Thomas Cutter has used his summers to view the US through the lens of history, geography, and culture. As a 23-year veteran of the war against pre-teen ignorance (a middle school teacher), he's taken his family to destinations all over the US for years. Listen in and be inspired!

üCamp and Davis Mountains Trips! episode 164

Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:21:00 -0500

The team went camping and rallying in very very different parts of the country! PJ and Lindsay were at a manufacturer's rally in Ohio, and Clint was with family in the mountainous desert region of West Texas! Want to know more?

Life Changing RV Stories with Sebastian Oveysi!

Thu, 08 Jun 2023 19:01:00 -0500

The pathways in life should all be interesting and dynamic, don't you think? Well, Sebastian Oveysi's path to RVing is very interesting and dynamic. From adolescent political refugee to chef and restaurant owner, to certified RV technician and inspector, he and his wife have found a deep love for travel and the outdoors. You're going to love the stories found in this episode of the RV Small Talk Podcast!

RV Dealership Sales Tactics You Need to Know!

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 19:01:00 -0500

The sales personnel at RV Dealerships are certainly hoping to make a living by convincing you to trade your money for a product they carry. That's not a bad thing! But, it can bring on anxiety if you don't understand some of the "helpful" methods they employ to nudge a potential buyer to commit to a camper purchase. Take a listen and be both informed and prepared when you hit the sales lots to find your dream camper!

RV Manufacturer/Dealer Relations Affect YOU!

Thu, 18 May 2023 19:01:00 -0500

Every piece of the RV industry puzzle ends up having some effect on the end user... you, the consumer. So PJ, Lindsay, and Clint take some time to look at the intricacies of manufacturer/dealership relations and the various ways they impact RV buyers.

A Truck Camper Magazine Story

Thu, 11 May 2023 19:02:00 -0500

The unique demographic of Truck Camper enthusiasts has found Truck Camper Magazine to be a huge resource and guide for years! But, do you know Gordon and Angela White, the team behind the online digital publication? PJ, Lindsay, and Clint got a chance to talk with them after they attended the 2023 Texas Truck Camper Rally in Bandera, Texas last week. Get to know what this type of camping is all about!

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159. Not Lion about RV Mold and Mildew

Thu, 27 Apr 2023 19:01:00 -0500

This episode of the RV Small Talk Podcast is here to make your life safer! Indeed, Mountain Lions are a rare sight across North America, but they are there! How many of them are out there? What should you do if your path crosses that of a mountain lion? Who knows?! Also, what steps can you take to prevent mold and mildew in your camper? We have answers for ya!

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158. Prepare for Messes and Fun!

Tue, 25 Apr 2023 13:06:06 -0500

157. Brits Cross America in a German Truck Camper!

Thu, 13 Apr 2023 19:01:00 -0500

Meet the Ogdens! They're traveling across North America with a fantastic European rig that they shipped over for the adventure! They stopped by Princess Craft RV looking for tie-down upgrades and we saw an opportunity to make friends! Listen in!

156. Life Changing CirCAMPstances

Thu, 06 Apr 2023 19:01:00 -0500

Love may lead you to face challenges, but it can also bring your life so much more meaning as you navigate a life of challenges! Just ask Chis and Nikki Drews! They've committed to sharing the best of life with their granddaughter who has physical and developmental challenges, and camping helps to make it possible. Listen in as PJ and Lindsay from the RV Small Talk Podcast discuss life, travels, and full-timing with the Drews!

155. Is Now the Time to Buy an RV?

Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:01:00 -0500

The landscape of the RV Market is vastly different from what it was just a matter of months ago. With that, we ask the question, "Is now the time to get a great deal on an RV?" Well, we'll explore that question together in this episode of the RV Small Talk Podcast!

154. Birds Make Life Better!

Thu, 23 Mar 2023 19:01:00 -0500

Easily one of the most mesmerizing and accessible ways to enjoy nature when you're RVing, camping, or hiking is to let your eyes and ears take in the wonders of nature. Birds have in a way helped guide adventures and exploration since the dawn of time, and we think it's time to give bird watching, or birding, a try! Clint and Lindsay sit down with Mary G. Zell, an avid bird watcher, to get inspired by the birds in our backyards and afar!

153. Crazy Things to See

Thu, 16 Mar 2023 19:00:00 -0500

If you need some weird and zany destinations and sites in your 2023 travel plans... have we got an episode for you! PJ, Lindsay, and Clint have some of the strangest and most unique destinations and attractions on their list today. Take a listen, and get some very one-of-a-kind travel ideas!

152. Camping Costs Less!

Thu, 09 Mar 2023 19:01:00 -0600

We all know the intangible benefits of travel, camping, and spending time in the great outdoors... but what are the real costs, and do the numbers make sense? PJ, Lindsay, and Clint look at the heavily rumored "savings" that RV enthusiasts tout when talking about travel plans and camping. Is the savings really there? Can you make your hard-earned cash go further?

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RV Small Talk Podcast Hosts: PJ Buerger, Lindsay Buerger, Clint Sandberg Recorded on location at Princess Craft RV, Round Rock, Texas

150. Financing an RV is Perilous!

Thu, 02 Mar 2023 19:00:00 -0600

In this episode of the RV Small Talk Podcast, we're diving into the world of RV Financing! It may not sound exciting, but if you're armed with understanding you'll be hitting the road and camping in no time! Check out all of our episodes at: https://rvsmalltalk.com

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Hosts: PJ Buerger, Lindsay Buerger, Clint Sandberg Recorded at Princess Craft RV, Round Rock, Texas

149. Can My Truck Tow The Weight?

Fri, 24 Feb 2023 10:03:31 -0600

Lindsay went camping and her quick-trip got her thinking about how to make fast weekend getaways successful and enjoyable. Also, getting the right truck to tow a trailer safely can be confusing. We got Scott Almquist from Lance Campers to help us get a handle on what makes a truck more or less capable for your trailer travels!

148. RV Fuel Savings & Efficiency

Thu, 19 Jan 2023 09:01:00 -0600

OUCH! That feeling of filling up your fuel tank when you're traveling. You're telling yourself it's good to invest in your self, your well being, your whatever wonderful thing it is that travel, camping, and RVing gets you. But, it hurts to see those numbers at the pump! We have a few ideas on how to save while you're pumping fuel, and a few more ways to save even when the wheels are turning!

147. New Year Resolutions 2023

Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:02:00 -0600

It's another year and PJ, Lindsay, and Clint are both checking in on how they did with last year's resolutions... and they're making new ones for 2023. Were they successful? Was progress made? Will they give up on the resolution game and go willy-nilly into the night of the new year? What happens?! Ahhhhhhhh!

146. Barefoot is Everywhere!

Mon, 09 Jan 2023 19:04:00 -0600

nuCamp RV has finally done it! The much anticipated Barefoot trailer, a collaboration between nuCamp RV and the brilliant Cathy Chamberlain and her team from the United Kingdom, has been just over the horizon for a few years... but now we see the light! Join PJ and Lindsay as they record a podcast with the makers of the new Barefoot trailer by nuCamp, right from the product launch party at Princess Craft RV!

145. Holiday Gift Guide 2022

Thu, 01 Dec 2022 15:59:43 -0600

It's that time of year again! This is when we at the RV Small Talk Podcast show up late to the party with a Holiday Gift Guide of our own! (the items mentioned in the episode are Amazon affiliate links) Find that perfect gift for your favorite RVers... and maybe a little something for yourself!

144. Winter RVing is a Go!

Tue, 22 Nov 2022 15:42:34 -0600

PJ and Clint from Princess Craft RV look at a recent article about holiday travel and RV usage. They then go on to muse about the ins and outs of RV travel in the winter months.

143. Will RVs Be Banned?!

Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:02:17 -0600

News from California spells out a near future where your preferred way of RVing may not be allowed. Lindsay and Clint have a "first take" discussion as they read the news and wonder aloud what it will look like, and what it means.

142. Chats with Crafty RVers!

Thu, 03 Nov 2022 19:03:00 -0500

RVers and their hobbies! RVing itself is a hobby, but those who partake, they often double or triple up on their interests and pursuits. PJ and Lindsay sat down with just some of the crafty RVers who attend the Texas Tiny Trailer Rally. The gathering regularly has those who paint, sculpt, stitch, build, burn... you name it! Take a listen and get inspired!

141. Chatting with John Ratzenberger in an RV!

Thu, 20 Oct 2022 19:03:00 -0500

Every now and then we all get to run into interesting people. PJ and Clint met up with John Ratzenberger in Elkhart, Indiana a few weeks ago while attending the 2022 RV Dealer Open House. It just so happens that John not only travels but regularly RVs! So, please join us for this interview, from a Little Guy Max, from Elkhart, Indiana!

Replay - Winterizing Your RV is Easy!

Mon, 10 Oct 2022 15:09:43 -0500

It's that time of year, again! You may be putting your beloved RV into storage for the winter, or you may be protecting your RV's water system and still heading out to camp! Either way, you'll want the do a proper winterization to make sure you don't face any costly repairs to your RV once Spring rolls around in 2023. So, join us as we revisit one of our favorite early episodes, "Winterizing Your RV is Easy." We brought Princess Craft RV's service manager, Cody, in to help us get the concepts right on this one. Thanks!

Camping with Characters

Fri, 23 Sep 2022 21:25:32 -0500

Of all the characters you've met through television, cartoon, and movies... what do you suppose it would be like to take any of them camping? Surface level, it's just a fun conversation to have, maybe to help you pass the miles. But, there's some opportunity here to really break down a scenario to some depth and discussion! Join us as we consider camping with characters!

Take Us Off-Grid, Full-Time!

Tue, 13 Sep 2022 13:24:46 -0500

Zoey and Taylor Andersen have interests to pursue, and the standard American way of doing work and life is getting in the way. In order to pursue the things that bring them joy in this life, they're modifying an inTech RV Flyer Discover to go Off-Grid, Full-time!

Are We RV-diculous?

Mon, 05 Sep 2022 13:06:45 -0500

Our personal "must-have-items" lists for RVing trips really show who we are and what we're trying to get out of our time away from home and work. PJ, Lindsay, and Clint have some pretty divergent travel and camping sensibilities, and when we compare lists, well, it gets pretty apparent that we likely won't be seeing much of each other at our respective campsites. Who's all about the comfort and ease of it all and who's practical and minimalistic? Truthfully, we're all of those things in our unique and personal ways! Listen and find out!

The Darn RV Refrigerators!

Fri, 19 Aug 2022 14:33:25 -0500

Even if your RV refrigerator is working reliably at its best, it can still be confounding! Why doesn't it cool as well as our home fridges? Why are there two types of 12-volt options for RV refrigerators? Can we drive with our RV refrigerator running on propane? Lindsay and Clint from the RV Small Talk Podcast pull Cody in from the service shop at Princess Craft RV to have a cool, calm, and level-headed discussion on those fridges!