Simple, Interrupted https://petdesk.podbean.com Simple, Interrupted is a podcast about how to evolve in the ever shifting landscape of veterinary medicine and practice management. In each episode you’ll hear from host Mary Schwartz and passion-driven individuals on their ideas, best practices and stories on surviving radical vet industry changes. 

]]> Mon, 15 Jun 2026 09:00:00 -0400 https://podbean.com/?v=5.5 en © 2022 PetDesk. All rights reserved. Business:Management 1440 episodic PetDesk PetDesk 7c210430-69bd-11f1-9b97-1bd0f2f63b00 No false https://feed.podbean.com/petdesk/feed.xml https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/21761702/Untitled.png Simple, Interrupted https://petdesk.podbean.com 144 144 Veterinary Leadership Skills: Being Nice Is Not the Same as Being Kind Veterinary Leadership Skills: Being Nice Is Not the Same as Being Kind https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/veterinary-leadership-skills-being-nice-is-not-the-same-as-being-kind/ https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/veterinary-leadership-skills-being-nice-is-not-the-same-as-being-kind/#comments Mon, 15 Jun 2026 09:00:00 -0400 petdesk.podbean.com/9e007c0b-6a28-34c8-902b-92987a991da6 Most veterinary leaders were never trained to lead. They were trained to be great technicians, great managers, great clinicians and then one day someone handed them a title and wished them luck. Suzanne Thomas, LVT, founder of Leading Veterinary Teams, clinical oncology technician, former hospital manager and regional director, and nearly two decade veteran of virtually every role inside a veterinary hospital except doctor, joins Mary to talk about what actually happens next and what to do about it.

From the impossible tightrope of going from teammate to boss, to why avoiding hard conversations feels kind but actually destroys team culture over time, Suzanne brings the kind of practical grounded wisdom that comes from nearly two decades inside veterinary hospitals in every role except doctor. If you are a new leader or you are trying to develop one, this episode is worth your time.

]]> Most veterinary leaders were never trained to lead. They were trained to be great technicians, great managers, great clinicians and then one day someone handed them a title and wished them luck. Suzanne Thomas, LVT, founder of Leading Veterinary Teams, clinical oncology technician, former hospital manager and regional director, and nearly two decade veteran of virtually every role inside a veterinary hospital except doctor, joins Mary to talk about what actually happens next and what to do about it.

From the impossible tightrope of going from teammate to boss, to why avoiding hard conversations feels kind but actually destroys team culture over time, Suzanne brings the kind of practical grounded wisdom that comes from nearly two decades inside veterinary hospitals in every role except doctor. If you are a new leader or you are trying to develop one, this episode is worth your time.

]]> PetDesk false No 1605 10 full How to Talk to Veterinary Clients About Supplements Without Being the Vibe Killer How to Talk to Veterinary Clients About Supplements Without Being the Vibe Killer https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/how-to-talk-to-veterinary-clients-about-supplements-without-being-the-vibe-killer/ https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/how-to-talk-to-veterinary-clients-about-supplements-without-being-the-vibe-killer/#comments Mon, 01 Jun 2026 09:00:00 -0400 petdesk.podbean.com/952ae90d-ac53-3ed8-a5dd-9bd785a12e23 Clients are coming in armed with TikToks, Amazon reviews, and a Trader Joe's bag full of hope. And somewhere in that exam room, you have to be the one to inject reality without killing the relationship. No pressure.

Dr. Sarah Wooten, veterinarian, client communication expert, and creator of the veterinary team game Against Insanity, joins Mary to talk about why supplement conversations are so hard, where most veterinary professionals go wrong, and how a simple three step framework of validate, translate, and guide can completely change the dynamic. Whether it is CBD oil, medicinal mushrooms, or adrenal support for a golden retriever, this one is going to come in handy.

]]> Clients are coming in armed with TikToks, Amazon reviews, and a Trader Joe's bag full of hope. And somewhere in that exam room, you have to be the one to inject reality without killing the relationship. No pressure.

Dr. Sarah Wooten, veterinarian, client communication expert, and creator of the veterinary team game Against Insanity, joins Mary to talk about why supplement conversations are so hard, where most veterinary professionals go wrong, and how a simple three step framework of validate, translate, and guide can completely change the dynamic. Whether it is CBD oil, medicinal mushrooms, or adrenal support for a golden retriever, this one is going to come in handy.

]]> PetDesk false No 1605 9 full Veterinary Software Migrations: What Your Tech Vendor Isn't Telling You Veterinary Software Migrations: What Your Tech Vendor Isn't Telling You https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/veterinary-software-migrations-what-your-tech-vendor-isnt-telling-you/ https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/veterinary-software-migrations-what-your-tech-vendor-isnt-telling-you/#comments Mon, 18 May 2026 09:00:00 -0400 petdesk.podbean.com/67a900a1-c2f7-3878-923e-9fb913a40e2f Switching veterinary software sounds straightforward until it isn't. Dr. Mark Massaro spent years working with multi-location groups on technology implementation, then crossed to the software side as a product manager, and is now back in the clinic as a veterinary technician. He has seen this process go well and go very, very wrong, and he joins Mary to talk about why.

This episode covers the hidden complexity of data migration, why standardizing your workflows before you switch is non-negotiable, and why the phrase "we've always done it this way" is costing practices more than they realize. If you are in the market for new software or just want to understand why your current systems feel like they are working against you, this one is for you.

Connect with Mark on LinkedIn and find his group NCVC Non-Clinical Vet Med Careers for jobs and community in the non-clinical vet med space.

]]> Switching veterinary software sounds straightforward until it isn't. Dr. Mark Massaro spent years working with multi-location groups on technology implementation, then crossed to the software side as a product manager, and is now back in the clinic as a veterinary technician. He has seen this process go well and go very, very wrong, and he joins Mary to talk about why.

This episode covers the hidden complexity of data migration, why standardizing your workflows before you switch is non-negotiable, and why the phrase "we've always done it this way" is costing practices more than they realize. If you are in the market for new software or just want to understand why your current systems feel like they are working against you, this one is for you.

Connect with Mark on LinkedIn and find his group NCVC Non-Clinical Vet Med Careers for jobs and community in the non-clinical vet med space.

]]> PetDesk false No 1859 8 full Veterinary Team Communication: Why Most Practices Are Getting It Wrong Veterinary Team Communication: Why Most Practices Are Getting It Wrong https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/nobody-taught-us-how-to-actually-talk-to-each-other-and-its-costing-your-practice/ https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/nobody-taught-us-how-to-actually-talk-to-each-other-and-its-costing-your-practice/#comments Mon, 04 May 2026 09:00:00 -0400 petdesk.podbean.com/19c7370f-e538-3c70-a715-c92264e2b193 Retention problems, front vs. back tension, leaders who care deeply but keep missing the mark. A lot of what ails veterinary practices comes down to one thing: communication. Not conflict management training, not a new policy binder. Actual, everyday communication between humans who have to depend on each other to do their jobs.

Josh Vaisman, founder of Flourish Veterinary Consulting, joins Mary to break down what positive communication actually looks like in practice, why most teams are only being trained for the conflict part and skipping the foundation, and what Gen Z entering the workforce means for how we lead going forward. Plus, Josh makes a genuinely compelling case for using AI to practice difficult conversations before you have them for real.

]]> Retention problems, front vs. back tension, leaders who care deeply but keep missing the mark. A lot of what ails veterinary practices comes down to one thing: communication. Not conflict management training, not a new policy binder. Actual, everyday communication between humans who have to depend on each other to do their jobs.

Josh Vaisman, founder of Flourish Veterinary Consulting, joins Mary to break down what positive communication actually looks like in practice, why most teams are only being trained for the conflict part and skipping the foundation, and what Gen Z entering the workforce means for how we lead going forward. Plus, Josh makes a genuinely compelling case for using AI to practice difficult conversations before you have them for real.

]]> PetDesk false No 1533 1 7 full From Phone Answerer to Practice Asset: Rethinking the CSR Role in Vet Med From Phone Answerer to Practice Asset: Rethinking the CSR Role in Vet Med https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/from-phone-answerer-to-practice-asset-rethinking-the-csr-role-in-vet-med/ https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/from-phone-answerer-to-practice-asset-rethinking-the-csr-role-in-vet-med/#comments Mon, 20 Apr 2026 09:00:00 -0400 petdesk.podbean.com/4f51213f-7410-3a1c-8f71-de2244884d1a Automated reminders, AI chatbots, online scheduling...technology is quietly absorbing tasks that used to define the receptionist role. So what does the front desk look like in a clinic that's actually keeping up? Maria Pirita, Certified Veterinary Practice Manager and team development specialist at Uncharted Veterinary, joins Mary to break it down. Maria and Mary talk through how CSRs can become the technology experts, client experience coordinators, and mentorship success stories that modern practices desperately need. They also get into why so many clinics are sitting on software capabilities they've never unlocked, and how something as small as a banana or an umbrella can turn a client into a loyal one for life.

]]> Automated reminders, AI chatbots, online scheduling...technology is quietly absorbing tasks that used to define the receptionist role. So what does the front desk look like in a clinic that's actually keeping up? Maria Pirita, Certified Veterinary Practice Manager and team development specialist at Uncharted Veterinary, joins Mary to break it down.

Maria and Mary talk through how CSRs can become the technology experts, client experience coordinators, and mentorship success stories that modern practices desperately need. They also get into why so many clinics are sitting on software capabilities they've never unlocked, and how something as small as a banana or an umbrella can turn a client into a loyal one for life.

]]> PetDesk false No 1388 1 6 full "Build a Whole New Track": Rethinking How Vet Clinics Work for Neurodivergent Teams "Build a Whole New Track": Rethinking How Vet Clinics Work for Neurodivergent Teams https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/build-a-whole-new-track-rethinking-how-vet-clinics-work-for-neurodivergent-teams/ https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/build-a-whole-new-track-rethinking-how-vet-clinics-work-for-neurodivergent-teams/#comments Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:00:00 -0400 petdesk.podbean.com/1012d277-afa7-34e7-b2ab-bb39076e0d2b What if the reason you keep losing great people isn't about pay, hours, or culture but about systems that were never built for the way their brains work? Ron Sosa, founder of Synapse Neuroinclusive Leadership and author of Rewriting the Rules, joins Mary to talk about one of the most underexplored topics in veterinary medicine: neurodivergence in the workplace.

Ron breaks down why vet med has one of the highest concentrations of neurodivergent professionals of any industry, what masking is costing your team, and the surprisingly practical changes like reorganizing your surgical suite that can reduce burnout and boost efficiency at the same time. Whether you're a practice owner, manager, or team member trying to make sense of your own experience, this one is worth your time.

Pick up Rewriting the Rules wherever books are sold.

]]> What if the reason you keep losing great people isn't about pay, hours, or culture but about systems that were never built for the way their brains work? Ron Sosa, founder of Synapse Neuroinclusive Leadership and author of Rewriting the Rules, joins Mary to talk about one of the most underexplored topics in veterinary medicine: neurodivergence in the workplace.

Ron breaks down why vet med has one of the highest concentrations of neurodivergent professionals of any industry, what masking is costing your team, and the surprisingly practical changes like reorganizing your surgical suite that can reduce burnout and boost efficiency at the same time. Whether you're a practice owner, manager, or team member trying to make sense of your own experience, this one is worth your time.

Pick up Rewriting the Rules wherever books are sold.

]]> PetDesk false No 1460 1 5 full "I Just Want My Freedom Back": Money, Mindset, and Practice Ownership with Tom Seeko "I Just Want My Freedom Back": Money, Mindset, and Practice Ownership with Tom Seeko https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/i-just-want-my-freedom-back-money-mindset-and-practice-ownership-with-tom-seeko/ https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/i-just-want-my-freedom-back-money-mindset-and-practice-ownership-with-tom-seeko/#comments Mon, 16 Mar 2026 10:00:00 -0400 petdesk.podbean.com/b5179c9a-be4e-3174-91d8-856de0b5366f Most veterinarians become practice owners because they want freedom. More time, more income, more autonomy. So why do so many of them end up with less of all three? Financial advisor Tom Seeko has spent over a decade helping veterinarians answer that exact question, and in this episode he sits down with Mary to break it all down.

From the trap of hiring people who can't do things exactly like you, to the danger of making big business decisions without a clear vision, to the simple 15-minute weekly habit that could change everything, Tom brings the kind of practical, grounded wisdom that no vet school curriculum ever covered. Plus, they talk books, Buddhist monks, cold plunges, and why your thoughts are creating a lot more of your problems than you realize.

If your practice feels like it's running you instead of the other way around, start here.

Catch more from Tom on the Smarter Vet Financial Podcast, where he and his team have built one of the most comprehensive libraries of financial content available for veterinary professionals.

]]> Most veterinarians become practice owners because they want freedom. More time, more income, more autonomy. So why do so many of them end up with less of all three? Financial advisor Tom Seeko has spent over a decade helping veterinarians answer that exact question, and in this episode he sits down with Mary to break it all down.

From the trap of hiring people who can't do things exactly like you, to the danger of making big business decisions without a clear vision, to the simple 15-minute weekly habit that could change everything, Tom brings the kind of practical, grounded wisdom that no vet school curriculum ever covered. Plus, they talk books, Buddhist monks, cold plunges, and why your thoughts are creating a lot more of your problems than you realize.

If your practice feels like it's running you instead of the other way around, start here.

Catch more from Tom on the Smarter Vet Financial Podcast, where he and his team have built one of the most comprehensive libraries of financial content available for veterinary professionals.

]]> PetDesk false No 2478 1 4 full Why won't my team just do what I tell them?? with Amanda Edwards Why won't my team just do what I tell them?? with Amanda Edwards https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/why-wont-my-team-just-do-what-i-tell-them-with-amanda-edwards/ https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/why-wont-my-team-just-do-what-i-tell-them-with-amanda-edwards/#comments Mon, 02 Mar 2026 10:00:00 -0500 petdesk.podbean.com/9f99d05c-823c-394d-b30a-dbee69ce7ff6 Change is hard. Change in a veterinary clinic? Even harder. In this episode, Mary sits down with Amanda Edwards: practice manager, veterinary leader, and co-host of the client-facing podcast Feces and Laughter, to talk about the real, messy, sometimes chaotic process of rolling out change in your clinic.

From the die-hard naysayers to the quiet eye-rollers, Amanda breaks down how to actually get your team on board with new technology, new protocols, and new ways of doing things without losing your mind or their trust. They dig into the "No B*tch Rule," why you should never throw your team into something without proper training, and why sometimes the best thing a leader can do is stand in front of their team and say, "yeah, that one was on me."

Whether you're thinking about new software, a new workflow, or just trying to survive the AI wave that's taking over vet med, this episode is your roadmap.

Go give Feces and Laughter a listen. Amanda and her medical director are doing something really special for clients, and it just might inspire you to connect with yours in a whole new way.

]]> Change is hard. Change in a veterinary clinic? Even harder. In this episode, Mary sits down with Amanda Edwards: practice manager, veterinary leader, and co-host of the client-facing podcast Feces and Laughter, to talk about the real, messy, sometimes chaotic process of rolling out change in your clinic.

From the die-hard naysayers to the quiet eye-rollers, Amanda breaks down how to actually get your team on board with new technology, new protocols, and new ways of doing things without losing your mind or their trust. They dig into the "No B*tch Rule," why you should never throw your team into something without proper training, and why sometimes the best thing a leader can do is stand in front of their team and say, "yeah, that one was on me."

Whether you're thinking about new software, a new workflow, or just trying to survive the AI wave that's taking over vet med, this episode is your roadmap.

Go give Feces and Laughter a listen. Amanda and her medical director are doing something really special for clients, and it just might inspire you to connect with yours in a whole new way.

]]> PetDesk false No 1700 3 full Using Technology throughout Client Journey in Veterinary Practices with Stephanie Worley Using Technology throughout Client Journey in Veterinary Practices with Stephanie Worley https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/enhancing-the-client-journey-in-veterinary-practices-with-technology-with-stephanie-worley/ https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/enhancing-the-client-journey-in-veterinary-practices-with-technology-with-stephanie-worley/#comments Mon, 16 Feb 2026 09:00:00 -0500 petdesk.podbean.com/685dab60-b8b7-3c3d-802c-1d3015f25d55 In this episode of Simple Interrupted, Mary Schwartz and Stephanie Worley discuss the intricacies of the client journey in veterinary practices, focusing on the integration of technology to enhance client communication and engagement. They explore the fears associated with technology, the importance of understanding client preferences, and the role of online booking systems. The conversation emphasizes the need for effective change management and team buy-in when implementing new technologies, ultimately highlighting that technology can enhance the personal touch in veterinary care.

]]> In this episode of Simple Interrupted, Mary Schwartz and Stephanie Worley discuss the intricacies of the client journey in veterinary practices, focusing on the integration of technology to enhance client communication and engagement. They explore the fears associated with technology, the importance of understanding client preferences, and the role of online booking systems. The conversation emphasizes the need for effective change management and team buy-in when implementing new technologies, ultimately highlighting that technology can enhance the personal touch in veterinary care.

]]> In this episode of Simple Interrupted, Mary Schwartz and Stephanie Worley discuss the intricacies of the client journey in veterinary practices, focusing on the integration of technology to enhance client communication and engagement. They explore the fears associated with technology, the importance of understanding client preferences, and the role of online booking systems. The conversation emphasizes the need for effective change management and team buy-in when implementing new technologies, ultimately highlighting that technology can enhance the personal touch in veterinary care. PetDesk false No 1948 1 2 full Enhancing the Client Journey in Veterinary Practices with Stephanie Worley Enhancing the Client Journey in Veterinary Practices with Stephanie Worley https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/the-veterinary-client-journey-with-stephanie-worley/ https://petdesk.podbean.com/e/the-veterinary-client-journey-with-stephanie-worley/#comments Mon, 02 Feb 2026 09:00:00 -0500 petdesk.podbean.com/e069cf53-bc44-3e5e-b6c5-53348650b71e In this episode, Mary Schwartz and Stephanie Worley discuss the intricacies of the client journey in veterinary practices. They explore the importance of understanding the client experience from the initial search for a veterinarian to follow-up care after an appointment. Key themes include the significance of effective communication, the role of technology in enhancing client interactions, and strategies for building trust and managing expectations regarding costs. The conversation emphasizes the need for veterinary practices to optimize each stage of the client journey to improve client satisfaction and retention.

]]> In this episode, Mary Schwartz and Stephanie Worley discuss the intricacies of the client journey in veterinary practices. They explore the importance of understanding the client experience from the initial search for a veterinarian to follow-up care after an appointment. Key themes include the significance of effective communication, the role of technology in enhancing client interactions, and strategies for building trust and managing expectations regarding costs. The conversation emphasizes the need for veterinary practices to optimize each stage of the client journey to improve client satisfaction and retention.

]]> In this episode, Mary Schwartz and Stephanie Worley discuss the intricacies of the client journey in veterinary practices. They explore the importance of understanding the client experience from the initial search for a veterinarian to follow-up care after an appointment. Key themes include the significance of effective communication, the role of technology in enhancing client interactions, and strategies for building trust and managing expectations regarding costs. The conversation emphasizes the need for veterinary practices to optimize each stage of the client journey to improve client satisfaction and retention. PetDesk false No 1614 1 1 full