Mutuality Matters https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com Women, Men, Mutuality, and the Bible CBE’s Mutuality Matters podcast is part of CBE International’s online library of free resources! Hosts of CBE’s Mutuality Matters team offer weekly conversations with leaders, pastors, authors, scholars, activists, and humanitarians on women, men, shared leadership, and Scripture. CBE International (Christians for Biblical Equality) advances the gospel by equipping women and men of all cultures, races, and classes to lead and serve as equals. Founded in 1989, CBE has supporters and ministry partners in over 100 denominations and 65 countries, and offers annual conferences, adult and youth curricula, a curated bookstore, multi-media resources, award-winning publications, and a blog. Learn more at cbeinternational.org. Fri, 27 Feb 2026 12:37:45 -0600 https://podbean.com/?v=5.5 en us Copyright 2021 All rights reserved. Religion & Spirituality:Christianity 1440 episodic The Mutuality Matters podcast is now part of CBE International’s online library of free resources! New hosts join the CBE Mutuality Matters team to offer weekly conversations with leaders, pastors, authors, scholars, activists, and humanitarians on women, men, equality, and the Bible. CBE International (Christians for Biblical Equality) advances the gospel by equipping women and men of all cultures, races, and classes to lead and serve as equals. Founded in 1989, CBE has supporters and ministry partners in over 100 denominations and 65 countries, and offers annual conferences, adult and youth curricula, a curated bookstore, multi-media resources, award-winning publications, and a blog. Learn more at cbeinternational.org. CBE International CBE International No false https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/6090582/MutualityMattersLogoWhiteBG_e3raec.jpg Mutuality Matters https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com 144 144 After the Harm: Wrestling Evil and Reclaiming Women’s Voices in Scripture with Rev. Dr. Ingrid Faro (Women and Words) After the Harm: Wrestling Evil and Reclaiming Women’s Voices in Scripture with Rev. Dr. Ingrid Faro (Women and Words) https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/after-the-harm-wrestling-evil-and-reclaiming-women-s-voices-in-scripture-with-rev-dr-ingrid-faro-women-and-words/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/after-the-harm-wrestling-evil-and-reclaiming-women-s-voices-in-scripture-with-rev-dr-ingrid-faro-women-and-words/#comments Fri, 27 Feb 2026 12:37:45 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/55db1713-e861-3fa0-bc91-3f1639fa8be7 On this episode of Mutuality Matters: Women and Words, Host Dr. Mimi Haddad interviewed Rev. Dr. Ingrid Faro. Ingrid described her challenging childhood and young married life as one of abuse, both psychologically and physically. Her early church experience was equally difficult, as women were to be seen but not heard. In her family of origins, she felt invisible and unimportant. She was terrified of her mother and had no real relationship with her dad. Ingrid was struggling to figure out who she is and even wondered if it was safe to think her thoughts. She also wanted out of the church because, as Ingrid describes, she so wanted God to be fair, but life didn’t seem to be fair.  

Ingrid shared how her first husband (a preacher and NT scholar) was unfaithful to her. He was also violent and broke her nose, landing her in the ER, where she told the attending doctors that she had an “accident,” but they were unconvinced. These and other experiences led to her struggle with the question of “theodicy,” whether God is just and good. Ingrid wondered if she could ever really trust God. This led to an exploration of God theologically. She became acquainted with and greatly admires the scholarship of the OT scholar Dr. Abraham Joshua Heschel. A passion for the OT was part of her journey. 

Her second husband nurtured honest, even blunt communication, or as Brené Brown says, “clarity is kindness.” As Ingrid studied Scripture, she encountered many bold women who henceforward served as her role models! In them she found a sense of release, or as she said, “I didn’t know the weight that was on my shoulders until it was lifted off me.” Ingrid began to see God’s clear anointing on women which began with the Apostle Paul. Ingrid began to sense a calling to an academic study of Scripture, which gave her pause. She was given opportunities to say what was on her heart but felt conflicted. Then she asked herself, “Can I stand before God and say, ‘I can’t.’” She had to distinguish between a fear of people and a fear of God. 

Yet the biblical “texts of terror” that appeared to silence women were very limited compared the many, many texts that welcomed their wisdom, voice and leadership. Consider Paul’s texts that seem to silence women (1 Cor. 14:34–36, 1 Tim. 2:11–15, Eph. 5:22&FF) compared to the many women Paul celebrates as co-leaders with him in preaching the gospel and leading churches, like those cited in Romans 16. More recently, Ingrid has considered the challenge of abuse in the church one of the most pressing challenges the church must address. She sometimes feels that the church is one of the most abusive places women encounter. Yet this was certainly an issue noted in Genesis 2. Here Ingrid notes the challenge of Bible translation as too often Genesis 2:18 is translated “The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” The Hebrew word for “helper,” is ezer, which means “a strong rescue,” as Dave Freedman notes. “Helper” fails to describe the true meaning of ezer.  

Ingrid also points to the work of Katharine Bushnell who redeems Eve by observing that she was the first person to have faith and hope in God’s promises. She also points to the following authors who have inspired her own scholarship and faith: Karen Swallow Prior, Carol L. Meyers, Edith Deen, Sandra Ritcher, Cynthia Long Westfall, and also biblical models like Abraham and Sarah.    For many years, Ingrid taught OT and has recently published the book, Redeeming Eden: How Women in the Bible Advance the Story of Salvation. Ingrid will lead a keynote and workshop at CBE’s conference this summer in Chicago, where she will also receive CBE’s Lifetime Achievement Award. 

Guest Bio:  Bio: Revd. Dr. Ingrid Faro is an ordained minister and currently serves as interim president and professor of Old Testament at Northern Seminary in Chicago. She previously served as dean of academic affairs, dean of theology at the Scandinavian School of Theology, and director of master’s programs at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, where she also taught Hebrew and Old Testament. She is an international speaker and the author of Redeeming Eden: How Women in the Bible Advance the Story of Salvation with Joyce Koo Dalrymple, Demystifying Evil, co-author of Honest Answers, Evil in Genesis, co-author of forthcoming As We Forgive: A Biblical Theology of Forgiveness, as well as articles, chapters, and reviews. Prior to her work in theological education, Ingrid was an entrepreneur and president of an insurance consulting group serving one-thousand agents in thirty-five states for twenty years. Ingrid has two children and four grandchildren.   

Related Resources: 

Healing from Hierarchy: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/mutuality-healing-from-hierarchy/ 

Silent No More: Exposing Abuse Among Evangelicals: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/silent-no-more-exposing-abuse-among-evangelicals/ 

Her Silence Screams: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/her-silence-screams/ 

When Religion Hurts: How Complementarian Churches Harm Women: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/when-religion-hurts-how-complementarian-churches-hurt/ 

 

0:00 Called to Seminary 

01:25 Meet Ingrid Faro

03:37 From Trauma to Theology 

06:25 Studying Evil in Genesis 

08:36 Why Theodicy Matters 

10:31 Patriarchy and Abuse 

16:56 Finding Freedom and Voice 

19:31 Leading at Northern Seminary 

23:17 What Did I Tell You? 

26:29 Women in Theology Today 

28:21 Chicago Conference Invite 

29:23 Reading the Clobber Passages 

31:16 Scholars Correcting Exegesis 

34:04 Trauma Abuse and the Church 

35:37 Genesis Reframing Creation 

40:03 Women as Full Image Bearers 

42:47 Old Testament Women with Voice 

46:29 Key Stories Sarah Hannah Ruth 

51:20 Future of Women in Ministry 

54:58 Global Impact and Closing Prayer 

]]> On this episode of Mutuality Matters: Women and Words, Host Dr. Mimi Haddad interviewed Rev. Dr. Ingrid Faro. Ingrid described her challenging childhood and young married life as one of abuse, both psychologically and physically. Her early church experience was equally difficult, as women were to be seen but not heard. In her family of origins, she felt invisible and unimportant. She was terrified of her mother and had no real relationship with her dad. Ingrid was struggling to figure out who she is and even wondered if it was safe to think her thoughts. She also wanted out of the church because, as Ingrid describes, she so wanted God to be fair, but life didn’t seem to be fair.  

Ingrid shared how her first husband (a preacher and NT scholar) was unfaithful to her. He was also violent and broke her nose, landing her in the ER, where she told the attending doctors that she had an “accident,” but they were unconvinced. These and other experiences led to her struggle with the question of “theodicy,” whether God is just and good. Ingrid wondered if she could ever really trust God. This led to an exploration of God theologically. She became acquainted with and greatly admires the scholarship of the OT scholar Dr. Abraham Joshua Heschel. A passion for the OT was part of her journey. 

Her second husband nurtured honest, even blunt communication, or as Brené Brown says, “clarity is kindness.” As Ingrid studied Scripture, she encountered many bold women who henceforward served as her role models! In them she found a sense of release, or as she said, “I didn’t know the weight that was on my shoulders until it was lifted off me.” Ingrid began to see God’s clear anointing on women which began with the Apostle Paul. Ingrid began to sense a calling to an academic study of Scripture, which gave her pause. She was given opportunities to say what was on her heart but felt conflicted. Then she asked herself, “Can I stand before God and say, ‘I can’t.’” She had to distinguish between a fear of people and a fear of God. 

Yet the biblical “texts of terror” that appeared to silence women were very limited compared the many, many texts that welcomed their wisdom, voice and leadership. Consider Paul’s texts that seem to silence women (1 Cor. 14:34–36, 1 Tim. 2:11–15, Eph. 5:22&FF) compared to the many women Paul celebrates as co-leaders with him in preaching the gospel and leading churches, like those cited in Romans 16. More recently, Ingrid has considered the challenge of abuse in the church one of the most pressing challenges the church must address. She sometimes feels that the church is one of the most abusive places women encounter. Yet this was certainly an issue noted in Genesis 2. Here Ingrid notes the challenge of Bible translation as too often Genesis 2:18 is translated “The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” The Hebrew word for “helper,” is ezer, which means “a strong rescue,” as Dave Freedman notes. “Helper” fails to describe the true meaning of ezer.  

Ingrid also points to the work of Katharine Bushnell who redeems Eve by observing that she was the first person to have faith and hope in God’s promises. She also points to the following authors who have inspired her own scholarship and faith: Karen Swallow Prior, Carol L. Meyers, Edith Deen, Sandra Ritcher, Cynthia Long Westfall, and also biblical models like Abraham and Sarah. 
 
For many years, Ingrid taught OT and has recently published the book, Redeeming Eden: How Women in the Bible Advance the Story of Salvation. Ingrid will lead a keynote and workshop at CBE’s conference this summer in Chicago, where she will also receive CBE’s Lifetime Achievement Award. 

Guest Bio: 
Bio: Revd. Dr. Ingrid Faro is an ordained minister and currently serves as interim president and professor of Old Testament at Northern Seminary in Chicago. She previously served as dean of academic affairs, dean of theology at the Scandinavian School of Theology, and director of master’s programs at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, where she also taught Hebrew and Old Testament. She is an international speaker and the author of Redeeming Eden: How Women in the Bible Advance the Story of Salvation with Joyce Koo Dalrymple, Demystifying Evil, co-author of Honest Answers, Evil in Genesis, co-author of forthcoming As We Forgive: A Biblical Theology of Forgiveness, as well as articles, chapters, and reviews. Prior to her work in theological education, Ingrid was an entrepreneur and president of an insurance consulting group serving one-thousand agents in thirty-five states for twenty years. Ingrid has two children and four grandchildren. 
 

Related Resources: 

Healing from Hierarchy: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/mutuality-healing-from-hierarchy/ 

Silent No More: Exposing Abuse Among Evangelicals: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/silent-no-more-exposing-abuse-among-evangelicals/ 

Her Silence Screams: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/her-silence-screams/ 

When Religion Hurts: How Complementarian Churches Harm Women: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/when-religion-hurts-how-complementarian-churches-hurt/ 

 

0:00 Called to Seminary 

01:25 Meet Ingrid Faro

03:37 From Trauma to Theology 

06:25 Studying Evil in Genesis 

08:36 Why Theodicy Matters 

10:31 Patriarchy and Abuse 

16:56 Finding Freedom and Voice 

19:31 Leading at Northern Seminary 

23:17 What Did I Tell You? 

26:29 Women in Theology Today 

28:21 Chicago Conference Invite 

29:23 Reading the Clobber Passages 

31:16 Scholars Correcting Exegesis 

34:04 Trauma Abuse and the Church 

35:37 Genesis Reframing Creation 

40:03 Women as Full Image Bearers 

42:47 Old Testament Women with Voice 

46:29 Key Stories Sarah Hannah Ruth 

51:20 Future of Women in Ministry 

54:58 Global Impact and Closing Prayer 

]]> CBE International false No 3504 170 full Does Paul Contradict Himself? A Conversation with Rev. Dr. Michael F. Bird (Women and Words) Does Paul Contradict Himself? A Conversation with Rev. Dr. Michael F. Bird (Women and Words) https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/does-paul-contradict-himself-a-conversation-with-rev-dr-michael-f-bird-women-and-words/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/does-paul-contradict-himself-a-conversation-with-rev-dr-michael-f-bird-women-and-words/#comments Fri, 16 Jan 2026 13:50:51 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/d44bb75d-f0a0-3785-a9f7-746edbb0cdd7 In this podcast, Rev. Dr. Michael F. Bird explores the crucial sociological context that often influences human interpretation of Scripture along with the complexities involved in reading passages from Paul who is considered both the ally of both egalitarians and complementarians. Spending significant time on Paul’s reference to Phoebe (Romans 16:1–2) as deacon in the church of Cenchrea. Too often we allow Paul’s passages that appear to silence women for all time (1 Timothy 2:11-15, Ephesians 5:22&FF and 1 Corinthians 14:34–36 ) overlooking the many women speaking, teaching and leading in the OT and NT, especially beside Paul and throughout Church History. 

Mike considers the impact of sin on God’s original design for women and men in Gen 1:26–31. Because of sin, the mutuality enjoyed by women and men deteriorates into the male rule noted in Gen 3:16.  

Supremely, Mike notes the victories of Christ in conquering sin on Calvary, along with the many passages in the New Testament that speak of the ontological mutuality and equal service of women and men, such as Proverbs 31, Galatians 3:28 but also a passage heavily cited by the Abolitionists that reads: “From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands,” Acts 17:26. Read full chapter. 

Mike masterfully integrates biblical theology, church history, theology, and culture as he explores key topics impacting women, marriage, and service. His sense of humor, use of metaphor and his experiences working in the church and academy brings keen insights into the egalitarian conversation today. We hope you enjoy this episode with Dr. Mike Bird, a dear friend of CBE.  

  Guest Bio: The Rev. Dr. Michael F. Bird: 

Mike is Deputy Principal and Lecturer in New Testament at Ridley College in Melbourne, Australia. He is an Anglican priest and is married with four children. He is the author of several books including the awarding winning The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the Story of Jesus and with N.T. Wright, The New Testament in its World. 

 

Books published by Michael F. Bird: 

  • Whispers of Revolution: Jesus and the Coming King. 
  • Romans: Greek-English Interlinear Paraphrase Study Notes 

 

Books published by N.T. Wright and Michael F. Bird: 

  • The New Testament in Its World: An Introduction to the History, Literature, and Theology of First Christians. 
  • Jesus and the Powers: Christian Political Witness in an Age of Totalitarian Terro and Dysfunctional Democracies. 
  • The New Testament in Its World Workbook: An Introduction to the History, Literature, and Theology of the First Christians. 
  • The New Testament You Never Knew Bible Study Guide: Exploring the Context, Purpose, and Meaning of the Story of God. 
  • The New Testament in Its World: An Introduction to the History, Literature, and Theology of the First Christians.
  • The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the Story of Jesus, by N.T. Wright and Michael F. Bird. 

Related Resources: The Invasion of the Homoians: Trinity and Gender, Again! Fretting Over Phoebe

]]> In this podcast, Rev. Dr. Michael F. Bird explores the crucial sociological context that often influences human interpretation of Scripture along with the complexities involved in reading passages from Paul who is considered both the ally of both egalitarians and complementarians. Spending significant time on Paul’s reference to Phoebe (Romans 16:1–2) as deacon in the church of Cenchrea. Too often we allow Paul’s passages that appear to silence women for all time (1 Timothy 2:11-15, Ephesians 5:22&FF and 1 Corinthians 14:34–36 ) overlooking the many women speaking, teaching and leading in the OT and NT, especially beside Paul and throughout Church History. 

Mike considers the impact of sin on God’s original design for women and men in Gen 1:26–31. Because of sin, the mutuality enjoyed by women and men deteriorates into the male rule noted in Gen 3:16.  

Supremely, Mike notes the victories of Christ in conquering sin on Calvary, along with the many passages in the New Testament that speak of the ontological mutuality and equal service of women and men, such as Proverbs 31, Galatians 3:28 but also a passage heavily cited by the Abolitionists that reads: “From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands,” Acts 17:26. Read full chapter. 

Mike masterfully integrates biblical theology, church history, theology, and culture as he explores key topics impacting women, marriage, and service. His sense of humor, use of metaphor and his experiences working in the church and academy brings keen insights into the egalitarian conversation today. We hope you enjoy this episode with Dr. Mike Bird, a dear friend of CBE.  

 
Guest Bio: The Rev. Dr. Michael F. Bird: 

Mike is Deputy Principal and Lecturer in New Testament at Ridley College in Melbourne, Australia. He is an Anglican priest and is married with four children. He is the author of several books including the awarding winning The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the Story of Jesus and with N.T. Wright, The New Testament in its World. 

 

Books published by Michael F. Bird: 

  • Whispers of Revolution: Jesus and the Coming King. 
  • Romans: Greek-English Interlinear Paraphrase Study Notes 

 

Books published by N.T. Wright and Michael F. Bird: 

  • The New Testament in Its World: An Introduction to the History, Literature, and Theology of First Christians. 
  • Jesus and the Powers: Christian Political Witness in an Age of Totalitarian Terro and Dysfunctional Democracies. 
  • The New Testament in Its World Workbook: An Introduction to the History, Literature, and Theology of the First Christians. 
  • The New Testament You Never Knew Bible Study Guide: Exploring the Context, Purpose, and Meaning of the Story of God. 
  • The New Testament in Its World: An Introduction to the History, Literature, and Theology of the First Christians.

  • The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the Story of Jesus, by N.T. Wright and Michael F. Bird. 


Related Resources:
The Invasion of the Homoians: Trinity and Gender, Again!

Fretting Over Phoebe


]]> CBE International false No 2171 169 full Women in the Gospel of Luke with Dr. Joel B. Green: Part 2 (Women and Words) Women in the Gospel of Luke with Dr. Joel B. Green: Part 2 (Women and Words) https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-the-gospel-of-luke-with-dr-joel-b-green-part-2-women-and-words/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-the-gospel-of-luke-with-dr-joel-b-green-part-2-women-and-words/#comments Thu, 20 Nov 2025 15:42:23 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/bcb11f62-9b27-302d-8061-03121d76e017 In this episode of Mutuality Matters, host Dr. Mimi Haddad continues her interview with guest Dr. Joel B. Green, an expert on the Gospel of Luke, about the portrayal of women in Luke's writings. Together they explore how these depictions challenge traditional gender roles and the importance of translation choices in understanding biblical messages about authority and equality. Dr. Green highlights the radical nature of Jesus' teachings and shares insights on how women in early Christianity were active participants in ministry.

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters 00:26 Exploring the Gospel's View on Women 01:31 Mary: A Prototypical Disciple 04:03 Women in Luke's Gospel 06:20 Men and Women in Luke's World 13:02 The Role of Women in Early Christianity 14:42 Challenges in Complementarian Contexts 21:13 Translation Issues in Key Biblical Passages 29:47 Favorite Women-Friendly Bible Translations 34:36 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer

Guest Bio 

Joel B. Green joined Fuller’s faculty in 2007 and has served several administrative posts: associate dean for the Center for Advanced Theological Studies (2008–2016, 2019–present), dean of the School of Theology (2014–2018), and provost (2016–2018). Prior to coming to Fuller, Dr. Green served for ten years at Asbury Theological Seminary as professor of New Testament interpretation, as dean of the School of Theology, and as provost. Previous faculty and academic-administrative appointments include the American Baptist Seminary of the West / Graduate Theological Union (1992–1997) and New College for Advanced Christian Studies Berkeley (1985–1992). 

Green has written or edited some 55 books, including 8 that have won awards: Connections: A Lectionary Commentary for Preaching and Worship, Year C, Volume 1, Advent through Epiphany (with Thomas Long, Luke Powery, and Cynthia Rigby, 2018), Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels (2nd ed., 2013), Common English Bible Study Bible (2013), Dictionary of Scripture and Ethics (2011), In Search of the Soul: Four Views of the Mind-Body Problem (2nd ed., 2010), Introducing the New Testament: Its Literature and Theology (with Paul J. Achtemeier and Marianne Meye Thompson, 2001), The Gospel of Luke (1997), and Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels (with Scot McKnight, 1992). Among his recent publications are Discovering Luke (2021), Luke as Narrative Theologian (2020), Conversion in Luke-Acts: Divine Initiative, Human Cognition, and the People of God (2015), Why Salvation? (2013), and The World of the New Testament: Cultural, Social and Historical Contexts (with Lee Martin McDonald, 2013). 

He is the editor of the New International Commentary on the New Testament, as well as the Two Horizons New Testament Commentary, and serves on the editorial boards of the Journal of Theological Interpretation, Theology and Science, and Science and Christian Belief. Green has been elected to membership in both Studiorum Novi Testamenti Societas (SNTS) and the International Society for Science and Religion (ISSR). 

Related Resources 

Teach us, Mary: The Authority of Women Teachers in the Church in Light of the Magnificat (Luke 1:46–55): https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/teach-us-mary/

The Significance of Three Narrative Parallels of Men and Women in Luke 1, John 3–4, and Acts 9: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/raised-obscurity-narratival-and-theological-study-characterization-women-luke-acts/

Whose Wife Will She Be? A Feminist Interpretation of Luke 20:27–38: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/whose-wife-will-she-be-feminist-interpretation/

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, host Dr. Mimi Haddad continues her interview with guest Dr. Joel B. Green, an expert on the Gospel of Luke, about the portrayal of women in Luke's writings. Together they explore how these depictions challenge traditional gender roles and the importance of translation choices in understanding biblical messages about authority and equality. Dr. Green highlights the radical nature of Jesus' teachings and shares insights on how women in early Christianity were active participants in ministry.

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters
00:26 Exploring the Gospel's View on Women
01:31 Mary: A Prototypical Disciple
04:03 Women in Luke's Gospel
06:20 Men and Women in Luke's World
13:02 The Role of Women in Early Christianity
14:42 Challenges in Complementarian Contexts
21:13 Translation Issues in Key Biblical Passages
29:47 Favorite Women-Friendly Bible Translations
34:36 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer

Guest Bio 

Joel B. Green joined Fuller’s faculty in 2007 and has served several administrative posts: associate dean for the Center for Advanced Theological Studies (2008–2016, 2019–present), dean of the School of Theology (2014–2018), and provost (2016–2018). Prior to coming to Fuller, Dr. Green served for ten years at Asbury Theological Seminary as professor of New Testament interpretation, as dean of the School of Theology, and as provost. Previous faculty and academic-administrative appointments include the American Baptist Seminary of the West / Graduate Theological Union (1992–1997) and New College for Advanced Christian Studies Berkeley (1985–1992). 

Green has written or edited some 55 books, including 8 that have won awards: Connections: A Lectionary Commentary for Preaching and Worship, Year C, Volume 1, Advent through Epiphany (with Thomas Long, Luke Powery, and Cynthia Rigby, 2018), Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels (2nd ed., 2013), Common English Bible Study Bible (2013), Dictionary of Scripture and Ethics (2011), In Search of the Soul: Four Views of the Mind-Body Problem (2nd ed., 2010), Introducing the New Testament: Its Literature and Theology (with Paul J. Achtemeier and Marianne Meye Thompson, 2001), The Gospel of Luke (1997), and Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels (with Scot McKnight, 1992). Among his recent publications are Discovering Luke (2021), Luke as Narrative Theologian (2020), Conversion in Luke-Acts: Divine Initiative, Human Cognition, and the People of God (2015), Why Salvation? (2013), and The World of the New Testament: Cultural, Social and Historical Contexts (with Lee Martin McDonald, 2013). 

He is the editor of the New International Commentary on the New Testament, as well as the Two Horizons New Testament Commentary, and serves on the editorial boards of the Journal of Theological Interpretation, Theology and Science, and Science and Christian Belief. Green has been elected to membership in both Studiorum Novi Testamenti Societas (SNTS) and the International Society for Science and Religion (ISSR). 

Related Resources 

Teach us, Mary: The Authority of Women Teachers in the Church in Light of the Magnificat (Luke 1:46–55): https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/teach-us-mary/

The Significance of Three Narrative Parallels of Men and Women in Luke 1, John 3–4, and Acts 9:
https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/raised-obscurity-narratival-and-theological-study-characterization-women-luke-acts/

Whose Wife Will She Be? A Feminist Interpretation of Luke 20:27–38:
https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/whose-wife-will-she-be-feminist-interpretation/

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, host Dr. Mimi Haddad continues her interview with guest Dr. Joel B. Green, an expert on the Gospel of Luke, about the portrayal of women in Luke’s writings. Together they explore how these depictions challenge traditional gender roles and the importance of translation choices in understanding biblical messages about authority and equality. Dr. Green highlights the radical nature of Jesus’ teachings and shares insights on how women in early Christianity were active participants in ministry. CBE International false No 2306 168 full (Women and Words) Inside the Bible Translation Room with Dr. Joel B. Green: Part 1 (Women and Words) Inside the Bible Translation Room with Dr. Joel B. Green: Part 1 https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-inside-the-bible-translation-room-with-dr-joel-green-part-1/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-inside-the-bible-translation-room-with-dr-joel-green-part-1/#comments Fri, 31 Oct 2025 13:40:33 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/6661ea6f-d671-352b-bc49-f0f09e00a684 In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, Dr. Joel B. Green joins the conversation to discuss the importance of Bible translation and interpretation, emphasizing the inclusion of women in the process. Dr. Green, a seasoned Bible scholar and faculty administrator, shares his extensive career and insights on the subject. He underscores the necessity of diverse perspectives in translation teams, discusses common biases in Bible translations, and offers advice on how English readers can detect and overcome these biases. The episode also delves into the significance of various successful Bible translations, the training of translators, and the impact of denominational and gender diversity on the integrity of translations. 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:38 Meet Dr. Joel Green 

02:22 Joel Green's Academic Journey 

05:38 Challenges in Bible Scholarship 

06:48 The Importance of Women in Bible Translation 

12:23 Overcoming Translation Bias 

19:38 Training and Selecting Bible Translators 

27:13 Successful Bible Translations 

34:38 Conclusion and Call to Action 

 

Guest Bio 

Joel B. Green joined Fuller’s faculty in 2007 and has served several administrative posts: associate dean for the Center for Advanced Theological Studies (2008–2016, 2019–present), dean of the School of Theology (2014–2018), and provost (2016–2018). Prior to coming to Fuller, Dr. Green served for ten years at Asbury Theological Seminary as professor of New Testament interpretation, as dean of the School of Theology, and as provost. Previous faculty and academic-administrative appointments include the American Baptist Seminary of the West / Graduate Theological Union (1992–1997) and New College for Advanced Christian Studies Berkeley (1985–1992). 

Green has written or edited some 55 books, including 8 that have won awards: Connections: A Lectionary Commentary for Preaching and Worship, Year C, Volume 1, Advent through Epiphany (with Thomas Long, Luke Powery, and Cynthia Rigby, 2018), Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels (2nd ed., 2013), Common English Bible Study Bible (2013), Dictionary of Scripture and Ethics (2011), In Search of the Soul: Four Views of the Mind-Body Problem (2nd ed., 2010), Introducing the New Testament: Its Literature and Theology (with Paul J. Achtemeier and Marianne Meye Thompson, 2001), The Gospel of Luke (1997), and Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels (with Scot McKnight, 1992). Among his recent publications are Discovering Luke (2021), Luke as Narrative Theologian (2020), Conversion in Luke-Acts: Divine Initiative, Human Cognition, and the People of God (2015), Why Salvation? (2013), and The World of the New Testament: Cultural, Social and Historical Contexts (with Lee Martin McDonald, 2013). 

He is the editor of the New International Commentary on the New Testament, as well as the Two Horizons New Testament Commentary, and serves on the editorial boards of the Journal of Theological Interpretation, Theology and Science, and Science and Christian Belief. Green has been elected to membership in both Studiorum Novi Testamenti Societas (SNTS) and the International Society for Science and Religion (ISSR). 

Green has 12 years of pastoral ministry experience. 

Related Resources 

Intersectionality: Words Matter! Freedom through Lectionary and Bible Translation with Rev. Dr. Wilda C. Gafney: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/intersectionality-words-matter/    Women and Words: Comparing Bible Translations with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer:   https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-comparing-bible-translations/    Women and Words: Exploring Women’s Biblical Equality Through Bible Translation with Dr. Roy Ciampa 

https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-exploring-womens-biblical-equality-through-bible-translation/ 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, Dr. Joel B. Green joins the conversation to discuss the importance of Bible translation and interpretation, emphasizing the inclusion of women in the process. Dr. Green, a seasoned Bible scholar and faculty administrator, shares his extensive career and insights on the subject. He underscores the necessity of diverse perspectives in translation teams, discusses common biases in Bible translations, and offers advice on how English readers can detect and overcome these biases. The episode also delves into the significance of various successful Bible translations, the training of translators, and the impact of denominational and gender diversity on the integrity of translations. 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:38 Meet Dr. Joel Green 

02:22 Joel Green's Academic Journey 

05:38 Challenges in Bible Scholarship 

06:48 The Importance of Women in Bible Translation 

12:23 Overcoming Translation Bias 

19:38 Training and Selecting Bible Translators 

27:13 Successful Bible Translations 

34:38 Conclusion and Call to Action 

 

Guest Bio 

Joel B. Green joined Fuller’s faculty in 2007 and has served several administrative posts: associate dean for the Center for Advanced Theological Studies (2008–2016, 2019–present), dean of the School of Theology (2014–2018), and provost (2016–2018). Prior to coming to Fuller, Dr. Green served for ten years at Asbury Theological Seminary as professor of New Testament interpretation, as dean of the School of Theology, and as provost. Previous faculty and academic-administrative appointments include the American Baptist Seminary of the West / Graduate Theological Union (1992–1997) and New College for Advanced Christian Studies Berkeley (1985–1992). 

Green has written or edited some 55 books, including 8 that have won awards: Connections: A Lectionary Commentary for Preaching and Worship, Year C, Volume 1, Advent through Epiphany (with Thomas Long, Luke Powery, and Cynthia Rigby, 2018), Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels (2nd ed., 2013), Common English Bible Study Bible (2013), Dictionary of Scripture and Ethics (2011), In Search of the Soul: Four Views of the Mind-Body Problem (2nd ed., 2010), Introducing the New Testament: Its Literature and Theology (with Paul J. Achtemeier and Marianne Meye Thompson, 2001), The Gospel of Luke (1997), and Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels (with Scot McKnight, 1992). Among his recent publications are Discovering Luke (2021), Luke as Narrative Theologian (2020), Conversion in Luke-Acts: Divine Initiative, Human Cognition, and the People of God (2015), Why Salvation? (2013), and The World of the New Testament: Cultural, Social and Historical Contexts (with Lee Martin McDonald, 2013). 

He is the editor of the New International Commentary on the New Testament, as well as the Two Horizons New Testament Commentary, and serves on the editorial boards of the Journal of Theological Interpretation, Theology and Science, and Science and Christian Belief. Green has been elected to membership in both Studiorum Novi Testamenti Societas (SNTS) and the International Society for Science and Religion (ISSR). 

Green has 12 years of pastoral ministry experience. 

Related Resources 

Intersectionality: Words Matter! Freedom through Lectionary and Bible Translation with Rev. Dr. Wilda C. Gafney: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/intersectionality-words-matter/ 
 
Women and Words: Comparing Bible Translations with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer:  
https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-comparing-bible-translations/ 
 
Women and Words: Exploring Women’s Biblical Equality Through Bible Translation with Dr. Roy Ciampa 

https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-exploring-womens-biblical-equality-through-bible-translation/ 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, Dr. Joel Green joins the conversation to discuss the importance of Bible translation and interpretation, emphasizing the inclusion of women in the process. CBE International false No 2112 167 full (Women and Words) Understanding "Wives Submit" and the Household Codes in 1 Peter 3:1–7 with Dr. Jeannine Brown (Women and Words) Understanding "Wives Submit" and the Household Codes in 1 Peter 3:1–7 with Dr. Jeannine Brown https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-understanding-wives-submit-and-the-household-codes-in-1-peter-31%e2%80%937-with-dr-jeannine-brown/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-understanding-wives-submit-and-the-household-codes-in-1-peter-31%e2%80%937-with-dr-jeannine-brown/#comments Fri, 15 Aug 2025 15:49:13 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/7cffc6eb-4752-31e1-bca3-23d1f90ac007 In this episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast from CBE International, hosts Mimi and Charel speak with Dr. Jeannine Brown who discusses the pressing need to interpret the Biblical text of 1 Peter 3:1–7 within its first-century Greco-Roman context. Dr. Brown emphasizes the importance of understanding the cultural and historical background behind the passages on submission, particularly 1 Peter 3:1–7. She explores how Peter's household codes provide agency to often marginalized groups like wives and slaves, contrary to the hierarchical norms of the time. The conversation underscores the relevance today of recognizing and respecting context while interpreting Biblical texts—an essential factor for both scholars and modern readers. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:02 Exploring the Context of Submission in 1 Peter 

00:49 Welcome and Introductions 

01:33 Reading and Analyzing 1 Peter 3:1-7 

02:57 Cultural Background and Interpretation 

03:37 Household Codes in the Greco-Roman World 

07:24 Missional Moments and Divided Households 

08:20 Challenges for Christian Wives in the First Century 

10:03 Slavery and Moral Agency in 1 Peter 

11:28 Understanding Peter's Use of Household Codes 

16:50 Modern Interpretations and Misconceptions 

27:46 The Role of Headings in Biblical Interpretation 

30:15 Instructions for Husbands in 1 Peter 3:7 

36:30 Exploring Social and Physical Vulnerability 

37:19 Interpreting 'Weaker Vessel' in Context 

38:02 Challenging Traditional Views on Gender Roles 

40:18 Co-Heirs and Inheritance in Early Christianity 

41:50 Family Metaphors in 1 Peter 

43:37 Egalitarian Impulses in the New Testament 

45:28 Household Codes and Their Implications 

50:08 Suffering for Good and Loyalty to Jesus 

52:47 Translation Challenges and Responsibilities 

58:01 Applying 1 Peter in Modern Contexts 

01:04:03 Conclusion and Further Resources 

 

Guest Bio: Dr. Jeannine Brown  

Jeannine Brown is professor of New Testament at Bethel Seminary and Program Director of Bethel Seminary’s Online programs. Jeannine received in MA from Bethel Seminary, Saint Paul, MN. and her PhD from Luther seminary, Saint Paul, MN. Dr. Brown has taught at Bethel Seminary for over 20 years. She teaches in the areas of New Testament, Greek, hermeneutics, and integration.   

Dr. Brown has focused much of her research and writing on the Gospels, hermeneutics, and interdisciplinary integration. In addition to a book on biblical hermeneutics (Scripture as Communication, now in second edition) and two books on integration, she has published three commentaries on Matthew's Gospel and one on Philippians (Tyndale NT series). She is a member of the NIV translation team and is an editor for the NIV Study Bible, revised edition (2020). Her current writing projects include a commentary 1 Peter (NICNT) and book on themes in 1 Peter. Jeannine’s other published works include: Scripture as Communication (2021, 2007); The Gospels as Stories (2020); Relational Integration of Psychology and Christian Theology (2018); Becoming Whole and Holy: An Integrative Conversation about Christian Formation (2011); Embedded Genres in the New Testament: Understanding Their Impact for Interpretation and three commentaries on the Gospel of Matthew (2018, 2015, 2012). Jeannine Brown co-edited the second edition of Jesus and the Gospels (2013). She has published numerous journal articles and book essays on the Gospels of Matthew and John, 1 Peter, and topics of hermeneutics. Some of these have been published in Journal of Biblical Literature, New Testament Studies, Catholic Biblical Quarterly, and Horizons in Biblical Theology. Jeannine thoroughly enjoys teaching in churches and ministries on the topics of Bible interpretation and the New Testament. She is married to Tim Brown, singer-songwriter, and has two adult daughters. 

Story Notes 

Today’s podcast focused on 1 Pet 3:1–7. In the NIV it reads: 

"Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves. They submitted themselves to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her lord. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear. Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers."

 

Exploring the cultural background, Jeannine suggests that Peter is calling Christians to display behaviors that reflect Christ even as male dominance was a given. Jeannine explained that in the first century, Roman interest in well-organized households should mirror a well-organized Rome. Roman citizens were to live harmoniously within a well-organized Roman household. Where the passage makes a surprising move is in the call for husbands to have empathy for their wives with a consequence: that God will hear their prayers. Further Christian wives should view themselves beyond the cultural standard of female beauty. As the passage states: it’s not the adorning of women’s outer selves but their inner lives of faith in God. Doing right, and with faith that does not give into fear given God is ultimately in control. This passage is countercultural in its emphasis on Christian faith and the development of a peaceful inner life both of which acknowledge God’s supremacy versus that of emperor’s.  

 

This passage calls both husbands and wives to do what is right: to be brave, to have faith in God who rules over all of Rome’s emperors, verse 7, to live within a culture with very differing values that offend Christian moral life. In this passage there is a tension in negotiating life lived in a culture at odds with Christian values, supremely concerning the divinity Jesus, or that of an emperor. While Jesus died on a Roman cross, even so, the passage evokes faith and courage in Christian households. The passage is helpful to missionaries in similar circumstances. How to live with courage and faith, elevating the gospel with behavior more often than words in a culture that exploited slaves and women.  

 

Turning to 1 Peter 3:7 that reads: 

"Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers."  

 

The Petrine texts lean into sibling language, especially that of children, which overall is very egalitarian in the cultural context of first century. Further, the language of “father” was not very much present in NT as it was in 1st century non-Christian texts. God’s children in Christ were to face each other in humility and this very egalitarian impulse in relating to one another. God is father, but in Christ we’re all siblings. Women and men are co-heirs is throughout NT. Leadership structure are notes but not ones in the NT.  

 

The whole Petrine text is a significant challenge to the top-down rule from emperor as God down throughout the household structure which was central. Given what Peter is doing with family metaphors—of believers as children / siblings who are to love earnestly as family love each other, and as the elders are a group too much have wisdom but must lead by example. These impulses, leader on top, and wife below: this does simplify decisions, but this is not the texture of Peter. As he thinks of his context, and the household code, it is not a prescription but a triage—a pathway for healing top-down leadership. It’s what Christians do in an emergency. Emergency advice to the Christian community so it can survive. It’s about survival for the most vulnerable. The thrust of text is a call to attentiveness to the most vulnerable. In light of Tom Holland’s book—Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World—in brutal detail reveals the cruelty of Rome. In thinking of our next, the advice is that even if you suffer for doing good, you are blessed. And take comfort in that truth and knowledge that even those who slanders you, remain loyal to Christ, if you suffer as Jesus did, you will also share in his glory. 

In fascinating detail, Jeannine describes the history of Bible translation and the canonical review that follows. For the NIV team, on which she contributes, their voting policy requires a 75% majority in approving translation choices. Thus, the team must make a compelling case to change something, so for 1 Peter, and the NT generally, it’s always wise to examine and read many translations to see differences.  

 

In considering the backdrop in which the text arises, submission is not a new requirement. What is new for this culture is to ask that all behavior must be Christ-like. While believers are clearly frightened by opposition to Christian faith, the text calls them to act in ways that others will recognize their soul-allegiance to Christ. Win others over to Christ not out of fear but confident behavior that imitates Christ’s live. Jeannine recommends entering the text with a disciplined imagination that brings implications of texts to life then and now. Idolatry is key issue underlining the concerns in this text which encourages faith and living life not with words but by example.  

Jeannine points listeners to the following resources: 

Jeannie will resume this conversation in subsequent episodes of Women and Worlds: Exploring the Difficult Passages. 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast from CBE International, hosts Mimi and Charel speak with Dr. Jeannine Brown who discusses the pressing need to interpret the Biblical text of 1 Peter 3:1–7 within its first-century Greco-Roman context. Dr. Brown emphasizes the importance of understanding the cultural and historical background behind the passages on submission, particularly 1 Peter 3:1–7. She explores how Peter's household codes provide agency to often marginalized groups like wives and slaves, contrary to the hierarchical norms of the time. The conversation underscores the relevance today of recognizing and respecting context while interpreting Biblical texts—an essential factor for both scholars and modern readers. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:02 Exploring the Context of Submission in 1 Peter 

00:49 Welcome and Introductions 

01:33 Reading and Analyzing 1 Peter 3:1-7 

02:57 Cultural Background and Interpretation 

03:37 Household Codes in the Greco-Roman World 

07:24 Missional Moments and Divided Households 

08:20 Challenges for Christian Wives in the First Century 

10:03 Slavery and Moral Agency in 1 Peter 

11:28 Understanding Peter's Use of Household Codes 

16:50 Modern Interpretations and Misconceptions 

27:46 The Role of Headings in Biblical Interpretation 

30:15 Instructions for Husbands in 1 Peter 3:7 

36:30 Exploring Social and Physical Vulnerability 

37:19 Interpreting 'Weaker Vessel' in Context 

38:02 Challenging Traditional Views on Gender Roles 

40:18 Co-Heirs and Inheritance in Early Christianity 

41:50 Family Metaphors in 1 Peter 

43:37 Egalitarian Impulses in the New Testament 

45:28 Household Codes and Their Implications 

50:08 Suffering for Good and Loyalty to Jesus 

52:47 Translation Challenges and Responsibilities 

58:01 Applying 1 Peter in Modern Contexts 

01:04:03 Conclusion and Further Resources 

 

Guest Bio: Dr. Jeannine Brown  

Jeannine Brown is professor of New Testament at Bethel Seminary and Program Director of Bethel Seminary’s Online programs. Jeannine received in MA from Bethel Seminary, Saint Paul, MN. and her PhD from Luther seminary, Saint Paul, MN. Dr. Brown has taught at Bethel Seminary for over 20 years. She teaches in the areas of New Testament, Greek, hermeneutics, and integration. 
 

Dr. Brown has focused much of her research and writing on the Gospels, hermeneutics, and interdisciplinary integration. In addition to a book on biblical hermeneutics (Scripture as Communication, now in second edition) and two books on integration, she has published three commentaries on Matthew's Gospel and one on Philippians (Tyndale NT series). She is a member of the NIV translation team and is an editor for the NIV Study Bible, revised edition (2020). Her current writing projects include a commentary 1 Peter (NICNT) and book on themes in 1 Peter. Jeannine’s other published works include: Scripture as Communication (2021, 2007); The Gospels as Stories (2020); Relational Integration of Psychology and Christian Theology (2018); Becoming Whole and Holy: An Integrative Conversation about Christian Formation (2011); Embedded Genres in the New Testament: Understanding Their Impact for Interpretation and three commentaries on the Gospel of Matthew (2018, 2015, 2012). Jeannine Brown co-edited the second edition of Jesus and the Gospels (2013). She has published numerous journal articles and book essays on the Gospels of Matthew and John, 1 Peter, and topics of hermeneutics. Some of these have been published in Journal of Biblical Literature, New Testament Studies, Catholic Biblical Quarterly, and Horizons in Biblical Theology. Jeannine thoroughly enjoys teaching in churches and ministries on the topics of Bible interpretation and the New Testament. She is married to Tim Brown, singer-songwriter, and has two adult daughters. 

Story Notes 

Today’s podcast focused on 1 Pet 3:1–7. In the NIV it reads: 

"Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves. They submitted themselves to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her lord. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear. Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers."

 

Exploring the cultural background, Jeannine suggests that Peter is calling Christians to display behaviors that reflect Christ even as male dominance was a given. Jeannine explained that in the first century, Roman interest in well-organized households should mirror a well-organized Rome. Roman citizens were to live harmoniously within a well-organized Roman household. Where the passage makes a surprising move is in the call for husbands to have empathy for their wives with a consequence: that God will hear their prayers. Further Christian wives should view themselves beyond the cultural standard of female beauty. As the passage states: it’s not the adorning of women’s outer selves but their inner lives of faith in God. Doing right, and with faith that does not give into fear given God is ultimately in control. This passage is countercultural in its emphasis on Christian faith and the development of a peaceful inner life both of which acknowledge God’s supremacy versus that of emperor’s.  

 

This passage calls both husbands and wives to do what is right: to be brave, to have faith in God who rules over all of Rome’s emperors, verse 7, to live within a culture with very differing values that offend Christian moral life. In this passage there is a tension in negotiating life lived in a culture at odds with Christian values, supremely concerning the divinity Jesus, or that of an emperor. While Jesus died on a Roman cross, even so, the passage evokes faith and courage in Christian households. The passage is helpful to missionaries in similar circumstances. How to live with courage and faith, elevating the gospel with behavior more often than words in a culture that exploited slaves and women.  

 

Turning to 1 Peter 3:7 that reads: 

"Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers."  

 

The Petrine texts lean into sibling language, especially that of children, which overall is very egalitarian in the cultural context of first century. Further, the language of “father” was not very much present in NT as it was in 1st century non-Christian texts. God’s children in Christ were to face each other in humility and this very egalitarian impulse in relating to one another. God is father, but in Christ we’re all siblings. Women and men are co-heirs is throughout NT. Leadership structure are notes but not ones in the NT.  

 

The whole Petrine text is a significant challenge to the top-down rule from emperor as God down throughout the household structure which was central. Given what Peter is doing with family metaphors—of believers as children / siblings who are to love earnestly as family love each other, and as the elders are a group too much have wisdom but must lead by example. These impulses, leader on top, and wife below: this does simplify decisions, but this is not the texture of Peter. As he thinks of his context, and the household code, it is not a prescription but a triage—a pathway for healing top-down leadership. It’s what Christians do in an emergency. Emergency advice to the Christian community so it can survive. It’s about survival for the most vulnerable. The thrust of text is a call to attentiveness to the most vulnerable. In light of Tom Holland’s book—Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World—in brutal detail reveals the cruelty of Rome. In thinking of our next, the advice is that even if you suffer for doing good, you are blessed. And take comfort in that truth and knowledge that even those who slanders you, remain loyal to Christ, if you suffer as Jesus did, you will also share in his glory. 

In fascinating detail, Jeannine describes the history of Bible translation and the canonical review that follows. For the NIV team, on which she contributes, their voting policy requires a 75% majority in approving translation choices. Thus, the team must make a compelling case to change something, so for 1 Peter, and the NT generally, it’s always wise to examine and read many translations to see differences.  

 

In considering the backdrop in which the text arises, submission is not a new requirement. What is new for this culture is to ask that all behavior must be Christ-like. While believers are clearly frightened by opposition to Christian faith, the text calls them to act in ways that others will recognize their soul-allegiance to Christ. Win others over to Christ not out of fear but confident behavior that imitates Christ’s live. Jeannine recommends entering the text with a disciplined imagination that brings implications of texts to life then and now. Idolatry is key issue underlining the concerns in this text which encourages faith and living life not with words but by example.  

Jeannine points listeners to the following resources: 

Jeannie will resume this conversation in subsequent episodes of Women and Worlds: Exploring the Difficult Passages. 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 4123 166 full (Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 5 (Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 5 https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation-with-mayra-ugalde-part-54/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation-with-mayra-ugalde-part-54/#comments Fri, 01 Aug 2025 17:19:00 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/155fa83f-7c38-314c-9a6f-39964f6274ee Related Resources

Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1 Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2 Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3 Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 4 The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

    ]]> Mutuality Matters, hosted by Mimi Haddad and produced by CBE International, guest Mayra Ugalde addresses the importance of women's leadership and service in the church, as guided by biblical teachings. She emphasizes the necessity of obedience to Jesus over cultural obstacles and discusses the significance of both Old and New Testament scriptures in supporting women’s roles in ministry. The episode also explores the impact of failed interpretations and translation errors on women's roles in religious contexts. Additionally, it underscores the importance of personal biblical study and the need for Bible translations accessible to all languages and cultures. The conversation encourages women to fulfill their God-given purpose without fear of societal judgment.

00:00 Introduction and Opening Remarks 00:23 Encouragement for Women in Ministry 00:56 Challenges in Biblical Interpretation 03:24 Biblical Support for Women's Leadership 03:49 The Importance of Service and Obedience 08:29 Recommendations for Bible Translations 11:53 Women in Scripture and Mission 12:31 Transformation Through Biblical Teachings 22:39 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell

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Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1
Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2
Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3
Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 4

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

    ]]> In episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by Mimi Haddad and produced by CBE International, guest Mayra Ugalde addresses the importance of women’s leadership and service in the church, as guided by biblical teachings. CBE International false No 1712 165 full (Women in Scripture and Mission) The East African Revival Moment with Bishop Emily Onyango (Women in Scripture and Mission) The East African Revival Moment with Bishop Emily Onyango https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-mission-the-east-africa-revival-moment-with-bishop-emily-onyango/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-mission-the-east-africa-revival-moment-with-bishop-emily-onyango/#comments Thu, 17 Jul 2025 17:49:23 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/4506c944-c9ef-3443-86e4-913c042321a2 In this episode, Kim talks to Rt. Rev. Dr. Emily Onyango about the East Africa Revival Movement that began in 1927 and is still reverberating through East Africa today. Begun by two people praying for true faith in the Anglican church, the movement grew among laypeople to denominations across East Africa, challenging patriarchy, tribalism, and racism. Because one priest oversaw six or seven churches, women empowered by the spirit preached, shared their testimonies and lead their churches. They dressed in white to mark their new way of living, and today a few of these very elderly women still challenge and influence church leadership today. At the time of the revival, Kenya’s practice of polygamy was at an all-time high, yet these believers lived monogamous, egalitarian marriages. They sent their daughters to school in addition to their sons, and the changed the fabric of society. Today, the leaders against government corruption and tribal sectarianism have their roots in the East Africa Revival Movement. Guest Bio  Right Rev. Dr. Emily Onyango is the first woman in the history of the Anglican Church in Kenya to be elected as bishop. She serves as senior lecturer and dean of students at St. Paul’s University in Limuru, Kenya. She earned a PhD from the University of Wales, as well as a Master of Theology from the Asian Center for Theological Studies and Mission in Seoul, South Korea, and a bachelor's degree from St. Paul’s University, Limuru. She is the author of Gender and Development: A History of Women’s Education in Kenya. CBE Resources: Women's History Month: The African Face of Global Evangelicalism by Mimi Haddad https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/womens-history-month-the-african-face-of-global-evangelicalism/ by Emily Onyango: Read: The Negative Consequences of Dowry Payment on Women and Society https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/negative-consequences-dowry-payment-women-and-society/

Watch: Working Towards Mutuality as a Mark of Christian Identity: A Case of the Work of the African Church for Biblical Equality https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/working-towards-mutuality-mark-christian-identity-case-work-african-church/

Listen: The Challenge of Gender Based Violence in Kenya and the Response of the Church https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/challenge-gender-based-violence-kenya-and-response-church/

The Challenge of the Resurgence of Negative Aspects of African Cultural Practices Among Christians in Kenya https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/challenge-resurgence-negative-aspects-african-cultural-practices-among/

Global Impact: The Work of Service Not Power in the Anglican Church of Kenya with Rt Rev Dr Emily Onyango https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/global-impact-work-service-not-power-anglican-church-kenya-rt-rev-dr-emily-onyango/

Disclaimer : The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

]]> In this episode, Kim talks to Rt. Rev. Dr. Emily Onyango about the East Africa Revival Movement that began in 1927 and is still reverberating through East Africa today. Begun by two people praying for true faith in the Anglican church, the movement grew among laypeople to denominations across East Africa, challenging patriarchy, tribalism, and racism. Because one priest oversaw six or seven churches, women empowered by the spirit preached, shared their testimonies and lead their churches. They dressed in white to mark their new way of living, and today a few of these very elderly women still challenge and influence church leadership today. At the time of the revival, Kenya’s practice of polygamy was at an all-time high, yet these believers lived monogamous, egalitarian marriages. They sent their daughters to school in addition to their sons, and the changed the fabric of society. Today, the leaders against government corruption and tribal sectarianism have their roots in the East Africa Revival Movement.

Guest Bio 
Right Rev. Dr. Emily Onyango is the first woman in the history of the Anglican Church in Kenya to be elected as bishop. She serves as senior lecturer and dean of students at St. Paul’s University in Limuru, Kenya. She earned a PhD from the University of Wales, as well as a Master of Theology from the Asian Center for Theological Studies and Mission in Seoul, South Korea, and a bachelor's degree from St. Paul’s University, Limuru. She is the author of Gender and Development: A History of Women’s Education in Kenya.

CBE Resources: Women's History Month: The African Face of Global Evangelicalism by Mimi Haddad https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/womens-history-month-the-african-face-of-global-evangelicalism/

by Emily Onyango:

Read: The Negative Consequences of Dowry Payment on Women and Society https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/negative-consequences-dowry-payment-women-and-society/

Watch: Working Towards Mutuality as a Mark of Christian Identity: A Case of the Work of the African Church for Biblical Equality https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/working-towards-mutuality-mark-christian-identity-case-work-african-church/

Listen: The Challenge of Gender Based Violence in Kenya and the Response of the Church https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/challenge-gender-based-violence-kenya-and-response-church/

The Challenge of the Resurgence of Negative Aspects of African Cultural Practices Among Christians in Kenya https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/challenge-resurgence-negative-aspects-african-cultural-practices-among/

Global Impact: The Work of Service Not Power in the Anglican Church of Kenya with Rt Rev Dr Emily Onyango https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/global-impact-work-service-not-power-anglican-church-kenya-rt-rev-dr-emily-onyango/

Disclaimer : The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

]]> In this episode, Kim talks to Rt. Rev. Dr. Emily Onyango about the East Africa Revival Movement that began in 1927 and is still reverberating through East Africa today. CBE International false No 2491 164 full (Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 4 (Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 4 https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation-with-mayra-ugalde-part-4/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation-with-mayra-ugalde-part-4/#comments Fri, 13 Jun 2025 16:58:23 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/95b889c8-f9a2-3dc6-9c13-f02ff3cada0e This episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, interviews Mayra Ugalde who delves into the significant role women played in Paul's ministry and offers insights into commonly misunderstood biblical passages used to limit women's roles in church and society. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the cultural context of scripture, the equality in Christ beyond gender, and the mutual submission in Christian marriage. Various translations of key texts like Ephesians 5 and Genesis 3:16 are compared to highlight biases and interpretations. The episode concludes with a call to read the Bible holistically to grasp its true message of equality and mutuality in Christ.

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters

00:35 The Importance of Bible Translations

02:53 Women in the Bible: Lessons from Mark

03:54 Jesus' Acceptance of Women's Offerings

08:01 Encouragement for Women in Ministry

09:38 Women as Witnesses and Apostles

15:40 Addressing Difficult Bible Passages

24:46 Equality in Christ

25:37 Phoebe and Women Leaders in the Early Church

28:42 Biblical Texts on Marriage and Mutual Submission

39:36 Interpreting Genesis 3:16

43:17 The Role of Sin and Grace in the Bible

46:21 The Church as a Demonstration of God's Kingdom

48:35 Conclusion and Call to Action

 

Related Resources

Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1 https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-from-oppression-to-empowerment-women-in-scripture/

Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2

https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation/ Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3

https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation-part-3/

 

Disclaimer: The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

]]> This episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, interviews Mayra Ugalde who delves into the significant role women played in Paul's ministry and offers insights into commonly misunderstood biblical passages used to limit women's roles in church and society. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the cultural context of scripture, the equality in Christ beyond gender, and the mutual submission in Christian marriage. Various translations of key texts like Ephesians 5 and Genesis 3:16 are compared to highlight biases and interpretations. The episode concludes with a call to read the Bible holistically to grasp its true message of equality and mutuality in Christ.


Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters

00:35 The Importance of Bible Translations

02:53 Women in the Bible: Lessons from Mark

03:54 Jesus' Acceptance of Women's Offerings

08:01 Encouragement for Women in Ministry

09:38 Women as Witnesses and Apostles

15:40 Addressing Difficult Bible Passages

24:46 Equality in Christ

25:37 Phoebe and Women Leaders in the Early Church

28:42 Biblical Texts on Marriage and Mutual Submission

39:36 Interpreting Genesis 3:16

43:17 The Role of Sin and Grace in the Bible

46:21 The Church as a Demonstration of God's Kingdom

48:35 Conclusion and Call to Action

 

Related Resources

Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1 https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-from-oppression-to-empowerment-women-in-scripture/


Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2

https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation/

Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3

https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation-part-3/

 

Disclaimer: The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

]]> This episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, interviews delves into the significant role women played in Paul’s ministry and offers insights into commonly misunderstood biblical passages used to limit women’s roles in church and society. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the cultural context of scripture, the equality in Christ beyond gender, and the mutual submission in Christian marriage. Various translations of key texts like Ephesians 5 and Genesis 3:16 are compared to highlight biases and interpretations. The episode concludes with a call to read the Bible holistically to grasp its true message of equality and mutuality in Christ. CBE International false No 2962 163 full (Women in Scripture and History) The Women of Exodus with Dr. Carmen Joy Imes (Women in Scripture and History) The Women of Exodus with Dr. Carmen Joy Imes https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-history-the-women-of-exodus-with-dr-carmen-joy-imes/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-history-the-women-of-exodus-with-dr-carmen-joy-imes/#comments Fri, 09 May 2025 12:38:51 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/4fd6524e-9180-34d4-b4f4-2e077a2ada0d In this episode, Kim talks to Dr. Carmen Joy Imes about the women of Exodus. Dr. Imes brings her deep knowledge of Exodus to the average Christian audience, explaining how the structure and literary parallels of Exodus to show how the women are the rescuers of Moses, who then rescues the Hebrews. She provides the details of the midwives’ spiritual work of saving lives. She demonstrates how Pharaoh’s daughter displayed God’s character as she sees Moses’ misery, heard his cry, and took pity on him. She explains the Hebrew that illustrates how Miriam took a stand at the river to address Pharaoh’s daughter just as Moses later took a stand to address Pharaoh. And she explains how Zipporah literally saved Moses’ life as he decided which people group he belonged. Amidst these detailed portrayals of the Exodus women, Dr. Imes also points out the narrator’s use of humor to depict the bumbling and nameless Pharaoh. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:02 Exploring the Role of Zipporah in Exodus 

01:04 Meet Dr. Carmen Joy IMEs 

02:06 The Mystery of Exodus 4:24-25 

03:26 Theological and Structural Significance of Zipporah 

14:33 The Role of Women in the Early Chapters of Exodus 

21:49 Elevating Women in Scripture 

22:00 A Word from CBE 

22:37 The Women of Exodus: Zipporah, Pua, and Shiphrah 

22:52 The Story of Moses' Birth and the Women Who Saved Him 

32:07 Moses' Identity and His Encounter with God 

39:37 Closing Thoughts and Resources 

41:20 Final Remarks and How to Stay Connected 

 

  

Guest Bio  

Dr. Carmen Joy Imes is associate professor of Old Testament at Talbot School of Theology, Biola University, in Southern California. She is the author of Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters, Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters, and the forthcoming Becoming God's Family: Why the Church Still Matters. Carmen has a YouTube channel where she releases weekly Torah Tuesday videos and you can find her writing on various websites, including Christianity Today, The Well, and The Politics of Scripture blog. Carmen is passionate about equipping the church to engage the Old Testament well and to see its relevance for the Christian life. 

 

Find Dr. Carmen Imes at: 

 

X: @carmenjoyimes 

Bluesky: @carmenjoyimes.bsky.social 

YouTube – Torah Tuesday: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6bwfe08fufzGaY2YImWQK12Ye7VX15X2 

Resources Mentioned in the Interview: 

 

Becoming God's Family: Why the Church Still Matters 

Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters 

Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters 

Every Woman’s Bible published by Tyndale 

 

Other CBE Resources: 

 

Defiant: What the Women of Exodus Teach Us About Freedom by Kelley Nikondeha. 

“Rational and Emotional Faith” by Megan Greulich in Mutuality 

“Who’s Who? Biblical Models of Women in Leadership” by Gracy Ying May in Priscilla Papers 

“Black is Blessed: A Study of Black/African Women and Men in Scripture” by Catherine Clark Kroeger in Priscilla Papers 

“Defiant: What the Women of Exodus Teach us about Freedom” by Mary Lou Wiley a Book Review on Defiant 

Women in Scripture and Mission: Zipporah by Kimberly Dickson 

Women in Scripture and Mission: Miriam by Kimberly Dickson 

Women in Scritpure and History: Puah and Shiphrah by Kimberly Dickson 

 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

]]> In this episode, Kim talks to Dr. Carmen Joy Imes about the women of Exodus. Dr. Imes brings her deep knowledge of Exodus to the average Christian audience, explaining how the structure and literary parallels of Exodus to show how the women are the rescuers of Moses, who then rescues the Hebrews. She provides the details of the midwives’ spiritual work of saving lives. She demonstrates how Pharaoh’s daughter displayed God’s character as she sees Moses’ misery, heard his cry, and took pity on him. She explains the Hebrew that illustrates how Miriam took a stand at the river to address Pharaoh’s daughter just as Moses later took a stand to address Pharaoh. And she explains how Zipporah literally saved Moses’ life as he decided which people group he belonged. Amidst these detailed portrayals of the Exodus women, Dr. Imes also points out the narrator’s use of humor to depict the bumbling and nameless Pharaoh. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:02 Exploring the Role of Zipporah in Exodus 

01:04 Meet Dr. Carmen Joy IMEs 

02:06 The Mystery of Exodus 4:24-25 

03:26 Theological and Structural Significance of Zipporah 

14:33 The Role of Women in the Early Chapters of Exodus 

21:49 Elevating Women in Scripture 

22:00 A Word from CBE 

22:37 The Women of Exodus: Zipporah, Pua, and Shiphrah 

22:52 The Story of Moses' Birth and the Women Who Saved Him 

32:07 Moses' Identity and His Encounter with God 

39:37 Closing Thoughts and Resources 

41:20 Final Remarks and How to Stay Connected 

 

  

Guest Bio  

Dr. Carmen Joy Imes is associate professor of Old Testament at Talbot School of Theology, Biola University, in Southern California. She is the author of Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters, Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters, and the forthcoming Becoming God's Family: Why the Church Still Matters. Carmen has a YouTube channel where she releases weekly Torah Tuesday videos and you can find her writing on various websites, including Christianity Today, The Well, and The Politics of Scripture blog. Carmen is passionate about equipping the church to engage the Old Testament well and to see its relevance for the Christian life. 

 

Find Dr. Carmen Imes at: 

 

X: @carmenjoyimes 

Bluesky: @carmenjoyimes.bsky.social 

YouTube – Torah Tuesday: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6bwfe08fufzGaY2YImWQK12Ye7VX15X2 

Resources Mentioned in the Interview: 

 

Becoming God's Family: Why the Church Still Matters 

Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters 

Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters 

Every Woman’s Bible published by Tyndale 

 

Other CBE Resources: 

 

Defiant: What the Women of Exodus Teach Us About Freedom by Kelley Nikondeha. 

“Rational and Emotional Faith” by Megan Greulich in Mutuality 

“Who’s Who? Biblical Models of Women in Leadership” by Gracy Ying May in Priscilla Papers 

“Black is Blessed: A Study of Black/African Women and Men in Scripture” by Catherine Clark Kroeger in Priscilla Papers 

“Defiant: What the Women of Exodus Teach us about Freedom” by Mary Lou Wiley a Book Review on Defiant 

Women in Scripture and Mission: Zipporah by Kimberly Dickson 

Women in Scripture and Mission: Miriam by Kimberly Dickson 

Women in Scritpure and History: Puah and Shiphrah by Kimberly Dickson 

 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

]]> In this episode, Kim talks to Dr. Carmen Joy Imes about the women of Exodus. Dr. Imes brings her deep knowledge of Exodus to the average Christian audience, explaining how the structure and literary parallels of Exodus to show how the women are the rescuers of Moses, who then rescues the Hebrews. She provides the details of the midwives’ spiritual work of saving lives. She demonstrates how Pharaoh’s daughter displayed God’s character as she sees Moses’ misery, heard his cry, and took pity on him. She explains the Hebrew that illustrates how Miriam took a stand at the river to address Pharaoh’s daughter just as Moses later took a stand to address Pharaoh. And she explains how Zipporah literally saved Moses’ life as he decided which people group he belonged. Amidst these detailed portrayals of the Exodus women, Dr. Imes also points out the narrator’s use of humor to depict the bumbling and nameless Pharaoh. CBE International false No 2615 162 full (Women and Words) Which Bible Translation Is Best in Latin America? with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3 (Women and Words) Which Bible Translation Is Best in Latin America? with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3 https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-which-bible-translation-is-best-in-latin-america-with-mayra-ugalde-part-3/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-which-bible-translation-is-best-in-latin-america-with-mayra-ugalde-part-3/#comments Fri, 02 May 2025 10:26:20 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/cb1de7dc-1782-3e6a-9c86-60a2a72943dc In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, the focus is on the significance of Bible translation and its impact on women's lives worldwide, especially in Latin America. Special guest Maya Ugalde, honorary director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, shares her extensive experience in Bible publishing and distribution. The discussion covers the importance of diverse translation teams, avoiding biases, and the role of traditional translations in fostering a deeper connection with God. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

01:19 Welcoming Our Esteemed Guest: Maya 

02:48 The Importance of Diverse Translation Teams 

05:49 Overcoming Bias in Bible Translations 

10:38 Successful Bible Translations: A Global Perspective 

16:42 The Role of Traditional Language in Bible Reading 

28:46 The Spirit in the Text: Engaging with God's Word 

31:00 Critical Thinking in Bible Translations 

35:37 Conclusion and Future Discussions 

 

Guest Bio 

Mayra currently serves as Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, where she serves in different areas of the publishing, promoting, and distribution of the Bible all over Costa Rica for more of 43 years. Mayra also serves on the Publishing Committee for the United Bible Society where she participates in developing and publishing different study Bibles and specifically in the developing of the Bible for Latin American women that’s called The Women in the Bible and also a Bible for adult women that was called The Bible I Adore.   

Mayra has an MBA in Administration, and a postgraduate degree in Bible. She publishes articles in national newspapers and nowadays writes devotionals and blogs leading readers to interact with the Bible.      

 

Related Resources 

Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1

Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2

How American Evangelicalism Has Been Weaponized Against Women

IJM’s Fight Against Gender-Based Violence in Latin America with Brad Twedt

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, the focus is on the significance of Bible translation and its impact on women's lives worldwide, especially in Latin America. Special guest Maya Ugalde, honorary director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, shares her extensive experience in Bible publishing and distribution. The discussion covers the importance of diverse translation teams, avoiding biases, and the role of traditional translations in fostering a deeper connection with God. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

01:19 Welcoming Our Esteemed Guest: Maya 

02:48 The Importance of Diverse Translation Teams 

05:49 Overcoming Bias in Bible Translations 

10:38 Successful Bible Translations: A Global Perspective 

16:42 The Role of Traditional Language in Bible Reading 

28:46 The Spirit in the Text: Engaging with God's Word 

31:00 Critical Thinking in Bible Translations 

35:37 Conclusion and Future Discussions 

 

Guest Bio 

Mayra currently serves as Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, where she serves in different areas of the publishing, promoting, and distribution of the Bible all over Costa Rica for more of 43 years. Mayra also serves on the Publishing Committee for the United Bible Society where she participates in developing and publishing different study Bibles and specifically in the developing of the Bible for Latin American women that’s called The Women in the Bible and also a Bible for adult women that was called The Bible I Adore.   

Mayra has an MBA in Administration, and a postgraduate degree in Bible. She publishes articles in national newspapers and nowadays writes devotionals and blogs leading readers to interact with the Bible.      

 

Related Resources 

Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1

Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2

How American Evangelicalism Has Been Weaponized Against Women

IJM’s Fight Against Gender-Based Violence in Latin America with Brad Twedt

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, the focus is on the significance of Bible translation and its impact on women’s lives worldwide, especially in Latin America. Special guest Maya Ugalde, honorary director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, shares her extensive experience in Bible publishing and distribution. The discussion covers the importance of diverse translation teams, avoiding biases, and the role of traditional translations in fostering a deeper connection with God. CBE International false No 2224 161 full (Women in Scripture and History) Who was Mary Magdalene really? with Rev. Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt (Women in Scripture and History) Who was Mary Magdalene really? with Rev. Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-history-who-was-mary-magdalene-really-with-rev-dr-jennifer-powell-mcnutt/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-history-who-was-mary-magdalene-really-with-rev-dr-jennifer-powell-mcnutt/#comments Thu, 17 Apr 2025 14:36:59 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/dce0160b-433b-35d5-8779-1b72d86154a4 In this episode, Kim talks to Rev Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt about Mary Magdalene. She discusses the Biblical witness of Mary Magdalene, and what happened historically to Mary so that she came to be understood as a prostitute. She also discusses the meaning of Apostle and why the Eastern and Western churches remember Mary Magdalene as an apostle to the apostles. 

 

Bio  

Rev. Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt is the Franklin S. Dyrness professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at Wheaton College. She is an award-winning author, fellow in the Royal Historical Society, and ordained teaching elder in the Presbyterian church. Her latest books are Know the Theologians (Zondervan, 2024), a finalist in the 2024 CT Book Awards for Popular Theology, and The Mary We Forgot (Brazos, 2024). She and her husband co-founded McNuttshell Ministries that seeks to serve as a bridge between the church and academy. 

 

Find Rev, Dr Jennifer McNutt 

Scripture References

  • Woman identified as “Sinner Woman” that gets conflated with Mary Magdalene: Luke 7  
  • Highlighting women with Jesus, part of his ministry, traveling with Jesus: Luke Chapter 8:1-3 
  • Scriptural definition of Apostles: 1 Cor 15, 1 John 1,  
  • Mary’s Message and Being Sent: John 20, Matthew 28, Luke 23-24, Acts 1 

Other Resources Mentioned in Interview:  

Scholars who have investigated Roman system of patronage: Lynn Cohick, Amy Brown Hughs, Susan Highland 

CBE Resources: 

  • To learn about the Middle Eastern culture and its impact on the movements of men versus women and children, see: “God’s Word to Middle Eastern Women,” by Kevin Zabihi in Mutuality, October 20, 2021. 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> In this episode, Kim talks to Rev Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt about Mary Magdalene. She discusses the Biblical witness of Mary Magdalene, and what happened historically to Mary so that she came to be understood as a prostitute. She also discusses the meaning of Apostle and why the Eastern and Western churches remember Mary Magdalene as an apostle to the apostles. 

 

Bio  

Rev. Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt is the Franklin S. Dyrness professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at Wheaton College. She is an award-winning author, fellow in the Royal Historical Society, and ordained teaching elder in the Presbyterian church. Her latest books are Know the Theologians (Zondervan, 2024), a finalist in the 2024 CT Book Awards for Popular Theology, and The Mary We Forgot (Brazos, 2024). She and her husband co-founded McNuttshell Ministries that seeks to serve as a bridge between the church and academy. 

 

Find Rev, Dr Jennifer McNutt 

Scripture References

  • Woman identified as “Sinner Woman” that gets conflated with Mary Magdalene: Luke 7  
  • Highlighting women with Jesus, part of his ministry, traveling with Jesus: Luke Chapter 8:1-3 
  • Scriptural definition of Apostles: 1 Cor 15, 1 John 1,  
  • Mary’s Message and Being Sent: John 20, Matthew 28, Luke 23-24, Acts 1 

Other Resources Mentioned in Interview:  

Scholars who have investigated Roman system of patronage: Lynn Cohick, Amy Brown Hughs, Susan Highland 

CBE Resources: 

  • To learn about the Middle Eastern culture and its impact on the movements of men versus women and children, see: “God’s Word to Middle Eastern Women,” by Kevin Zabihi in Mutuality, October 20, 2021. 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> In this episode, Kim talks to Rev Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt about Mary Magdalene. She discusses the Biblical witness of Mary Magdalene, and what happened historically to Mary so that she came to be understood as a prostitute. She also discusses the meaning of Apostle and why the Eastern and Western churches remember Mary Magdalene as an apostle to the apostles. CBE International false No 2272 160 full (Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2 (Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2 https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation-with-mayra-ugalde-part-2/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation-with-mayra-ugalde-part-2/#comments Fri, 04 Apr 2025 09:16:32 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e35b382e-07d6-352c-9185-cdddfecb8051 This episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by CBE International, features an in-depth discussion with Mayra Ugalde, the Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica. Mayra shares her perspective on growing up in a Latin family with traditional gender roles and delves into the complexities of Bible translation. She emphasizes the importance of diverse translation teams to avoid bias and promote a holistic understanding of Scripture. The episode also touches on the historical and cultural contexts in biblical narratives and highlights the significant roles women have played in both the Old and New Testaments. Through shared expertise, listeners are encouraged to engage with the Bible personally and critically, guided by the Holy Spirit and informed by a community of believers. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

01:29 Welcome and Guest Introduction 

03:05 Complexities of Bible Translation 

05:42 Diverse Perspectives in Translation 

11:22 The Role of Commentaries in Bible Reading 

14:38 Women and the Bible: Cultural Contexts 

20:29 Women Leaders in Christianity 

30:00 Boaz and Ruth: A Cultural Example 

35:16 Conclusion and Future Episodes 

 

Guest Bio 

Mayra currently serves as Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, where she serves in different areas of the publishing, promoting, and distribution of the Bible all over Costa Rica for more of 43 years.  Mayra also serves on the Publishing Committee for the United Bible Society where she participates in developing and publishing different study Bibles and specifically in the developing of the Bible for Latin American women that’s called The Women in the Bible and also a Bible for adult women that was called The Bible I Adore.  

Mayra has an MBA in Administration, and a postgraduate degree in Bible. She publishes articles in national newspapers and nowadays writes devotionals and blogs leading readers to interact with the Bible.     

 

Related Resources 

Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1 

How American Evangelicalism Has Been Weaponized Against Women 

IJM’s Fight Against Gender-Based Violence in Latin America with Brad Twedt 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by CBE International, features an in-depth discussion with Mayra Ugalde, the Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica. Mayra shares her perspective on growing up in a Latin family with traditional gender roles and delves into the complexities of Bible translation. She emphasizes the importance of diverse translation teams to avoid bias and promote a holistic understanding of Scripture. The episode also touches on the historical and cultural contexts in biblical narratives and highlights the significant roles women have played in both the Old and New Testaments. Through shared expertise, listeners are encouraged to engage with the Bible personally and critically, guided by the Holy Spirit and informed by a community of believers. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

01:29 Welcome and Guest Introduction 

03:05 Complexities of Bible Translation 

05:42 Diverse Perspectives in Translation 

11:22 The Role of Commentaries in Bible Reading 

14:38 Women and the Bible: Cultural Contexts 

20:29 Women Leaders in Christianity 

30:00 Boaz and Ruth: A Cultural Example 

35:16 Conclusion and Future Episodes 

 

Guest Bio 

Mayra currently serves as Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, where she serves in different areas of the publishing, promoting, and distribution of the Bible all over Costa Rica for more of 43 years.  Mayra also serves on the Publishing Committee for the United Bible Society where she participates in developing and publishing different study Bibles and specifically in the developing of the Bible for Latin American women that’s called The Women in the Bible and also a Bible for adult women that was called The Bible I Adore.  

Mayra has an MBA in Administration, and a postgraduate degree in Bible. She publishes articles in national newspapers and nowadays writes devotionals and blogs leading readers to interact with the Bible.     

 

Related Resources 

Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1 

How American Evangelicalism Has Been Weaponized Against Women 

IJM’s Fight Against Gender-Based Violence in Latin America with Brad Twedt 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by CBE International, features an in-depth discussion with Mayra Ugalde, the Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica. CBE International false No 2248 159 full (Home, Church, and World) Family and Mutuality with Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin (Home, Church, and World) Family and Mutuality with Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-family-and-mutuality-with-rev-dr-emily-mcgowin/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-family-and-mutuality-with-rev-dr-emily-mcgowin/#comments Fri, 14 Mar 2025 09:46:41 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/3486e4f2-736a-3b6c-b017-294253cc2350 In this episode, we’re joined by Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin, professor of theology at Wheaton College and author of the new book Households of Faith, to discuss the theology of family. 

  Guest Bio 

The Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin is associate professor of theology at Wheaton College. She is also a priest and canon theologian in the Anglican diocese of Churches for the Sake of Others (C4SO). Her latest book, Households of Faith: Practicing Family in the Kingdom of God is now available for pre-order from IVP. Dr. McGowin earned a Ph.D. in theology from the University of Dayton, M.Div. from Baylor University’s Truett Seminary, and a B.A. in biblical studies from Criswell College. She has been teaching theology in university, high school, and local church settings for almost 20 years. She is married to Ron and they have three teen children. Together they enjoy exploring forest preserves   and playing Dungeons & Dragons. 

Related Resources 

Mutuality Matters: A Theology of Family + An Apocalyptic Advent 

How One Church Is Growing Toward Full Biblical Mutuality 

Culture, Gender, and the Family 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode, we’re joined by Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin, professor of theology at Wheaton College and author of the new book Households of Faith, to discuss the theology of family. 

 
Guest Bio 

The Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin is associate professor of theology at Wheaton College. She is also a priest and canon theologian in the Anglican diocese of Churches for the Sake of Others (C4SO). Her latest book, Households of Faith: Practicing Family in the Kingdom of God is now available for pre-order from IVP. Dr. McGowin earned a Ph.D. in theology from the University of Dayton, M.Div. from Baylor University’s Truett Seminary, and a B.A. in biblical studies from Criswell College. She has been teaching theology in university, high school, and local church settings for almost 20 years. She is married to Ron and they have three teen children. Together they enjoy exploring forest preserves  
and playing Dungeons & Dragons. 

Related Resources 

Mutuality Matters: A Theology of Family + An Apocalyptic Advent 

How One Church Is Growing Toward Full Biblical Mutuality 

Culture, Gender, and the Family 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode, we’re joined by Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin, professor of theology at Wheaton College and author of the new book Households of Faith, to discuss the theology of family. CBE International false No 2111 158 full (Women and Words) From Oppression to Empowerment: Women in Scripture (Women and Words) From Oppression to Empowerment: Women in Scripture https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-from-oppression-to-empowerment-women-in-scripture/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-from-oppression-to-empowerment-women-in-scripture/#comments Fri, 07 Mar 2025 09:45:57 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/942567f2-6c5a-321c-b47e-bf64b8d2a2b9 00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:02 Cultural Background and Personal Story 

01:33 Guest Introduction: Mayra Ugalde 

03:24 Mayra's Experience with the Bible 

07:22 Impact of the Bible on Women's Lives 

13:41 Challenges and Misinterpretations 

16:40 Mayra's Work and Contributions 

21:38 Jesus's View of Women 

24:02 Translation vs. Interpretation 

43:49 God's Maternal Love 

52:11 Conclusion and Resources 

Speaking as a Christian born, raised and in the Latin culture where she continues to work, Mayra explores the complex influence and tension between Bible translation and culture, including Bible culture. Mayra observes how often culture and church tradition have more influence than one’s one reading of Scripture. Mayra briefly explores the history of Christianity in Latin America with the influence of the Catholic church. It wasn’t until 1966 that the dominant religion opened opportunities for lay people to read Scripture, on their own. At this time, the British and Foreign Bible Society distributed these throughout Latin America. As people began to read the Bible, they began to change some of their perspectives. 

Mayra’s mother believed her daughters should serve their brothers. Mayra’s father treated her brothers as kings. Her father said women should have and raise children. Life’s work was defined by gender. Mayra met a man who did not believe girls and women should read the Bible without a man in the room. Reading scripture for herself, Mayra found Sheerah’s story (1 Chron. 7:20–24) empowering Though Sheerah’s father was disgraced by having a daughter, Scripture notes that her name means “At least one woman”; and this one daughter--Sheerah brought honor to her family and nation by building two large, strategic, and successful cities. While people believe that God’s word says negative things about females, if read well, Scripture challenges gender bias by honoring women like Sheerah as strong rescuers.  

Throughout her career, Mayra noticed how Bible translations and commentaries teams were produced by scholars holding to a single perspective. From this she learned the importance of including scholars that honor the authority of Scripture yet hold diverse perspectives on key issues. Mayra reminds us that the Holy Spirit guides us as we read Scripture. This is especially true and crucial for women who too often are told by pastors what the Scripture says about women. But by reading the text themselves, the Spirit can liberate women from cultural, church and denominational gender bias. Women in the Church have to read the Bible for themselves to hear the Lord speaking to them because the pastors are not God, as Paul said about the people from Berea, in Acts 17:11 “... Day after day they studied the Scriptures to see if these things were true.”  

It is fascinating how Jesus interpreted Scripture, introducing woman as the “daughter of Abraham” at a time when women were not considered equal heirs with the “sons of Abraham.” Luke’s Gospel is very clear about the welcome Jesus gave to women. 

Mayra discusses the importance of understanding Bible translation as a science. Skilled translators understand Bible culture and realize that Scripture was written by about 40 authors over 1,200 years. In lapses of time like this, there were vast changes in the culture; in languages; and in the people’s views. The Bible is a collection of books of many authors from many differing cultures, many of whom did not know each other. It’s important to understand the unique culture of each text we read and to understand what is applicable for us today.  

Consider the story of Vashti (Esther 1.15-20) as it honors how Vashti challenged the cultural expectation that a wife obeys their husband in everything even as he asks her to do something morally reprehensible. Vashti resisted evil. Her expectation was that her husband would behave as Paul notes in Ephesians 5:25-33.  

When you read the Bible, you need to recognize the historical and cultural context of the text, as every culture upholds good and permits evil. Mayra considers the story of Hagar and Gen 1:26–27 (woman is created in God’s image); Gal 3:26–30 that being clothed in Christ is our highest identity regardless of race, class or gender; that Jesus found women who suffered (in Samaria and Syrophoenicia) and he freed and gave women respect, dignity and empowerment. 

Mayra explored the Motherly Love of God as it heals the church, especially women. God’s Motherly Love is noted in: 

  • Gen. 3:8–21 when God sewed clothes (like a mother) for Adam and Eve, after they sinned and were naked and afraid. God does not abandon his son and daughter after they sin but sends them his maternal love. God loves us from his depth, from the bottom of his heart. God has maternal love for his creation, and for the human being. 
  • In Hosea 11:3–4 Like a mother, God took Israel by the arm and taught them to walk. But they would not admit that I was the one who had healed them. 4 I led them with kindness and with love, not with ropes. I held them close to me; I bent down to feed them. 
  • Deut. 32:11 God, like a mother bird, swooping down to catch it’s young  
  • Isaiah 49:15 God, like a mother, cannot forget the child she bore, fed and nursed with her own body. Even if a mother forgets her child, God cannot not forget God’s children. 

Guest Bio 

Mayra Ugalde currently serves as Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, where serve in different areas of the Publishing, Promoting and Distribution of the Bible in all over the country, for more of 43 years.  Also serves in the Publishing Committee for the all American Continent in the United Bible Society, where participate in the developing and publishing different study Bibles and specifically in the developing of  Bible with helps for the women for Latin America that’s call “The Women in the Bible” and also a Bible with helps for the women in the adult time that was call “The Bible I Adore”. Mayra has an MBA in Administration, and Postgraduate in Bible, publish articles in national newspapers and nowadays writes devotionals and blogs leading readers to interact with the Bible.      

 

Other CBE Resources 

God as Motherly Father and Fatherly Mother 

Three (Faulty) Objections to Feminine Language for God 

Why Mothers Matter as much as Fathers in Shaping Our Perception of God 

]]> 00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:02 Cultural Background and Personal Story 

01:33 Guest Introduction: Mayra Ugalde 

03:24 Mayra's Experience with the Bible 

07:22 Impact of the Bible on Women's Lives 

13:41 Challenges and Misinterpretations 

16:40 Mayra's Work and Contributions 

21:38 Jesus's View of Women 

24:02 Translation vs. Interpretation 

43:49 God's Maternal Love 

52:11 Conclusion and Resources 

Speaking as a Christian born, raised and in the Latin culture where she continues to work, Mayra explores the complex influence and tension between Bible translation and culture, including Bible culture. Mayra observes how often culture and church tradition have more influence than one’s one reading of Scripture. Mayra briefly explores the history of Christianity in Latin America with the influence of the Catholic church. It wasn’t until 1966 that the dominant religion opened opportunities for lay people to read Scripture, on their own. At this time, the British and Foreign Bible Society distributed these throughout Latin America. As people began to read the Bible, they began to change some of their perspectives. 

Mayra’s mother believed her daughters should serve their brothers. Mayra’s father treated her brothers as kings. Her father said women should have and raise children. Life’s work was defined by gender. Mayra met a man who did not believe girls and women should read the Bible without a man in the room. Reading scripture for herself, Mayra found Sheerah’s story (1 Chron. 7:20–24) empowering Though Sheerah’s father was disgraced by having a daughter, Scripture notes that her name means “At least one woman”; and this one daughter--Sheerah brought honor to her family and nation by building two large, strategic, and successful cities. While people believe that God’s word says negative things about females, if read well, Scripture challenges gender bias by honoring women like Sheerah as strong rescuers.  

Throughout her career, Mayra noticed how Bible translations and commentaries teams were produced by scholars holding to a single perspective. From this she learned the importance of including scholars that honor the authority of Scripture yet hold diverse perspectives on key issues. Mayra reminds us that the Holy Spirit guides us as we read Scripture. This is especially true and crucial for women who too often are told by pastors what the Scripture says about women. But by reading the text themselves, the Spirit can liberate women from cultural, church and denominational gender bias. Women in the Church have to read the Bible for themselves to hear the Lord speaking to them because the pastors are not God, as Paul said about the people from Berea, in Acts 17:11 “... Day after day they studied the Scriptures to see if these things were true.”  

It is fascinating how Jesus interpreted Scripture, introducing woman as the “daughter of Abraham” at a time when women were not considered equal heirs with the “sons of Abraham.” Luke’s Gospel is very clear about the welcome Jesus gave to women. 

Mayra discusses the importance of understanding Bible translation as a science. Skilled translators understand Bible culture and realize that Scripture was written by about 40 authors over 1,200 years. In lapses of time like this, there were vast changes in the culture; in languages; and in the people’s views. The Bible is a collection of books of many authors from many differing cultures, many of whom did not know each other. It’s important to understand the unique culture of each text we read and to understand what is applicable for us today.  

Consider the story of Vashti (Esther 1.15-20) as it honors how Vashti challenged the cultural expectation that a wife obeys their husband in everything even as he asks her to do something morally reprehensible. Vashti resisted evil. Her expectation was that her husband would behave as Paul notes in Ephesians 5:25-33.  

When you read the Bible, you need to recognize the historical and cultural context of the text, as every culture upholds good and permits evil. Mayra considers the story of Hagar and Gen 1:26–27 (woman is created in God’s image); Gal 3:26–30 that being clothed in Christ is our highest identity regardless of race, class or gender; that Jesus found women who suffered (in Samaria and Syrophoenicia) and he freed and gave women respect, dignity and empowerment. 

Mayra explored the Motherly Love of God as it heals the church, especially women. God’s Motherly Love is noted in: 

  • Gen. 3:8–21 when God sewed clothes (like a mother) for Adam and Eve, after they sinned and were naked and afraid. God does not abandon his son and daughter after they sin but sends them his maternal love. God loves us from his depth, from the bottom of his heart. God has maternal love for his creation, and for the human being. 
  • In Hosea 11:3–4 Like a mother, God took Israel by the arm and taught them to walk. But they would not admit that I was the one who had healed them. 4 I led them with kindness and with love, not with ropes. I held them close to me; I bent down to feed them. 
  • Deut. 32:11 God, like a mother bird, swooping down to catch it’s young  
  • Isaiah 49:15 God, like a mother, cannot forget the child she bore, fed and nursed with her own body. Even if a mother forgets her child, God cannot not forget God’s children. 

Guest Bio 

Mayra Ugalde currently serves as Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, where serve in different areas of the Publishing, Promoting and Distribution of the Bible in all over the country, for more of 43 years.  Also serves in the Publishing Committee for the all American Continent in the United Bible Society, where participate in the developing and publishing different study Bibles and specifically in the developing of  Bible with helps for the women for Latin America that’s call “The Women in the Bible” and also a Bible with helps for the women in the adult time that was call “The Bible I Adore”. Mayra has an MBA in Administration, and Postgraduate in Bible, publish articles in national newspapers and nowadays writes devotionals and blogs leading readers to interact with the Bible.      

 

Other CBE Resources 

God as Motherly Father and Fatherly Mother 

Three (Faulty) Objections to Feminine Language for God 

Why Mothers Matter as much as Fathers in Shaping Our Perception of God 

]]> Speaking as a Christian born, raised and in the Latin culture where she continues to work, Mayra explores the complex influence and tension between Bible translation and culture, including Bible culture. Mayra observes how often culture and church tradition have more influence than one’s one reading of Scripture. CBE International false No 3205 157 full (Side by Side) Together in All Things with Kelsey and Dane Schuett (Side by Side) Together in All Things with Kelsey and Dane Schuett https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/side-by-side-together-in-all-things-with-kelsey-and-dane-schuett/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/side-by-side-together-in-all-things-with-kelsey-and-dane-schuett/#comments Fri, 21 Feb 2025 10:08:56 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/4d21057c-3127-39a7-ad0f-935e4ad24205 Married couple Kelsey and Dane Schuett are together…a lot. Not only do they serve on the same church staff team, but they also serve alongside one another in mission with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Most importantly, they are co-parenting their young son Leo. In this episode, hosts Rob and Layla are joined by Dane and Kelsey who invite listeners into their theological journeys, the joys and struggles of partnering together, and their vision for an egalitarian community where “people get our best, not our must.” 

Guest Bios 

Kelsey and Dane Schuett are campus staff ministers with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship at UC Santa Barbara and Santa Barbara City College. They are also pastors at New Life Church Santa Barbara. Kelsey and Dane live here in Santa Barbara, CA, with their one-year-old son, Leo. They both love coffee, the beach, sit-coms, our InterVarsity students, music and worship, and our awesome faith community! 

Kelsey Schuett’s sermon: https://nlcsb.org/media/r9fsvmv/advent-week-2 

Related Resources  Leading Together in Christ: A Biblical View of Authority    Leading Together: Lessons From Sharing Leadership in Ministry and Marriage 

Women and Men Leading Together: “Exchanging a Muzzle for a Microphone” with Rici and Phil Skei 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> Married couple Kelsey and Dane Schuett are together…a lot. Not only do they serve on the same church staff team, but they also serve alongside one another in mission with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Most importantly, they are co-parenting their young son Leo. In this episode, hosts Rob and Layla are joined by Dane and Kelsey who invite listeners into their theological journeys, the joys and struggles of partnering together, and their vision for an egalitarian community where “people get our best, not our must.” 

Guest Bios 

Kelsey and Dane Schuett are campus staff ministers with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship at UC Santa Barbara and Santa Barbara City College. They are also pastors at New Life Church Santa Barbara. Kelsey and Dane live here in Santa Barbara, CA, with their one-year-old son, Leo. They both love coffee, the beach, sit-coms, our InterVarsity students, music and worship, and our awesome faith community! 

Kelsey Schuett’s sermon: https://nlcsb.org/media/r9fsvmv/advent-week-2 

Related Resources 
Leading Together in Christ: A Biblical View of Authority 
 
Leading Together: Lessons From Sharing Leadership in Ministry and Marriage 

Women and Men Leading Together: “Exchanging a Muzzle for a Microphone” with Rici and Phil Skei 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> Married couple Kelsey and Dane Schuett are together…a lot. Not only do they serve on the same church staff team, but they also serve alongside one another in mission with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Most importantly, they are co-parenting their young son Leo. CBE International false No 2763 156 full (Home, Church, and World) Mutuality and Masculinity with Zachary Wagner: Part 2 (Home, Church, and World) Mutuality and Masculinity with Zachary Wagner: Part 2 https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-mutuality-and-masculinity-with-zachary-wagner-part-2/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-mutuality-and-masculinity-with-zachary-wagner-part-2/#comments Fri, 14 Feb 2025 12:39:56 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/4d555ac1-4f83-3e11-9b5d-03588e597f53 This episode is a part of a segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society. In this special two-part interview, we’re joined by Zachary C. Wagner, director of programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians and author of Non-Toxic Masculinity, to discuss the role unhelpful views of masculinity impact how women and men function together. 

 

Guest Bio  

Zachary Wagner is a writer, researcher, and ordained minister––thinker of thoughts and feeler of feelings who lives in Chicagoland. He is pursuing a DPhil (PhD) in New Testament studies at Keble College, University of Oxford. He also serves as the director of Programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians, where he co-hosts the CPT Podcast. His research interests include economics in the ancient world, divine wages in Second Temple Judaism and early Christianity, Pauline epistles, the Gospel of Matthew, and New Testament masculinities. His first book, Non-Toxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality, was published in 2023 with Intervarsity Press. Zach’s other writing interests include evangelical and “post-vangelical” Christian discipleship, theological formation, and speaking against church-based abuse. 

 Related Resources 

New Voices: Non-Toxic Masculinity with Zachary Wagner 

Let God Reign: Ditching the Umbrellas of Hierarchy 

Let’s Stop Talking about Masculinity and Start Talking about Discipleship 

 

 Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode is a part of a segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society. In this special two-part interview, we’re joined by Zachary C. Wagner, director of programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians and author of Non-Toxic Masculinity, to discuss the role unhelpful views of masculinity impact how women and men function together. 

 

Guest Bio  

Zachary Wagner is a writer, researcher, and ordained minister––thinker of thoughts and feeler of feelings who lives in Chicagoland. He is pursuing a DPhil (PhD) in New Testament studies at Keble College, University of Oxford. He also serves as the director of Programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians, where he co-hosts the CPT Podcast. His research interests include economics in the ancient world, divine wages in Second Temple Judaism and early Christianity, Pauline epistles, the Gospel of Matthew, and New Testament masculinities. His first book, Non-Toxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality, was published in 2023 with Intervarsity Press. Zach’s other writing interests include evangelical and “post-vangelical” Christian discipleship, theological formation, and speaking against church-based abuse. 

 Related Resources 

New Voices: Non-Toxic Masculinity with Zachary Wagner 

Let God Reign: Ditching the Umbrellas of Hierarchy 

Let’s Stop Talking about Masculinity and Start Talking about Discipleship 

 

 Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this special two-part interview, we’re joined by Zachary C. Wagner, director of programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians and author of Non-Toxic Masculinity, to discuss the role unhelpful views of masculinity impact how women and men function together. CBE International false No 1590 155 full (Women and Words) Bible Passages that Support Women’s Leadership with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer (Women and Words) Bible Passages that Support Women’s Leadership with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-bible-passages-that-support-women-s-leadership-with-rev-dr-aida-besancon-spencer/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-bible-passages-that-support-women-s-leadership-with-rev-dr-aida-besancon-spencer/#comments Fri, 07 Feb 2025 09:49:04 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/59f2452c-2112-3307-b87b-71e6dbaf61f9 In the second episode, Dr. Mimi Haddad meets with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer to explore key ways Scripture goes against the grain of culture. While some scholars uphold Bible cultural as the moral standard, Aída encouraged readers to begin in the New Testament. For example, in the story of Martha and Mary (Luke 10:38-42), Martha was anxious that Mary would help her serve the disciples a meal. But Jesus said, “Martha, Martha … You are worried and upset about many things, but few things are needed—or indeed only one. Mary has chosen what is better, and it will not be taken away from her.” Jesus reversed women’s priorities from domestic spheres to theological spheres: learn God’s truth. Paul also said, in 1 Tim 2:11, “A woman should learn in quietness (silence) and full submission.” Insisting on women’s silence was/is a to call women to learn as the theological scholars (Rabbis) did at the time of Christ, in silence—with rapt focus. Aída believes we need more scholarly reflection on women and silence in Scripture.  

 

Aída ends with a warning to always view people as created in God’s image and considers passages also embrace the shared dignity and agency of women. Reflecting on the marginalization for Native Americans who were accused of and punished for alleged idol worship, by white colonizes who believed they were given the US given as theocracy, Aída and her husband William David Spencer address both topic in a powerful article titled, Calling on God or Colonial Oppression.  

 

Aída addresses the leadership of women in the early church, with a focus on context. Whereas women’s leadership in Ephesus was different from women in other contexts, like women planting churches like Lydia in Greece.  

 

Aída ends by reflecting on Helen Barrett Montgomery (1861-1934) was elected the first president of national Woman’s American Baptist Foreign Mission Society. She was also elected the first president (and woman) of an American denomination, the Northern Baptist Convention in 1920. She’s also the first woman to translate the New Testament in 1924. Her translation of Roman 16:1-3—interpreted Pheobe as a “minister” and “overseer,” yet it has taken so very long for other translators to see the same biblical truth (in 1843). Barrett Montgonery’s The New Testament in Modern English was republished in 1952, and translated Romans 16:1-2: “I commend to you our sister Phoebe, who is a minister of the church at Cenchreae. I beg you to give her a Christian welcome, as the saints should, and to assist her in any matter in which she may have need of you. for she herself has been made an overseer to many people, including myself.” Prostateo, the verb meaning to be leader or ruler of, hold office, authority for providing, regent (Liddell & Scott’s classical dictionary). 

 

Guest Bio  Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer, Ph.D., Th.M., M.Div., is Senior Professor of New Testament at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, S. Hamilton, MA. Born and reared in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, she has served as community organizer, minister, and educator in a variety of urban and suburban settings. She has over 200 publications, including 20 books, among these are commentaries of James, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, 1 Peter, and 2 Corinthians and books encouraging women in leadership, such as Beyond the Curse: Women Called to Ministry, Global Voices on Biblical Equality, Christian Egalitarian Leadership, The Goddess Revival: A Biblical Response to Goddess Spirituality, Marriage at the Crossroads, and the novel Cave of Little Faces. An ordained Presbyterian minister, she is married to the Rev. Dr. William David Spencer. Their blog is entitled Applying Biblical Truths Today. They have one adult son, Stephen. 

 

Related Resources 

Creating Gender-Accurate Bible Translations 

Video: Gender-Accurate Bible Translation Panel 

Presumption, Bias, and Gender Accuracy in Bible Translation 

]]> In the second episode, Dr. Mimi Haddad meets with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer to explore key ways Scripture goes against the grain of culture. While some scholars uphold Bible cultural as the moral standard, Aída encouraged readers to begin in the New Testament. For example, in the story of Martha and Mary (Luke 10:38-42), Martha was anxious that Mary would help her serve the disciples a meal. But Jesus said, “Martha, Martha … You are worried and upset about many things, but few things are needed—or indeed only one. Mary has chosen what is better, and it will not be taken away from her.” Jesus reversed women’s priorities from domestic spheres to theological spheres: learn God’s truth. Paul also said, in 1 Tim 2:11, “A woman should learn in quietness (silence) and full submission.” Insisting on women’s silence was/is a to call women to learn as the theological scholars (Rabbis) did at the time of Christ, in silence—with rapt focus. Aída believes we need more scholarly reflection on women and silence in Scripture.  

 

Aída ends with a warning to always view people as created in God’s image and considers passages also embrace the shared dignity and agency of women. Reflecting on the marginalization for Native Americans who were accused of and punished for alleged idol worship, by white colonizes who believed they were given the US given as theocracy, Aída and her husband William David Spencer address both topic in a powerful article titled, Calling on God or Colonial Oppression.  

 

Aída addresses the leadership of women in the early church, with a focus on context. Whereas women’s leadership in Ephesus was different from women in other contexts, like women planting churches like Lydia in Greece.  

 

Aída ends by reflecting on Helen Barrett Montgomery (1861-1934) was elected the first president of national Woman’s American Baptist Foreign Mission Society. She was also elected the first president (and woman) of an American denomination, the Northern Baptist Convention in 1920. She’s also the first woman to translate the New Testament in 1924. Her translation of Roman 16:1-3—interpreted Pheobe as a “minister” and “overseer,” yet it has taken so very long for other translators to see the same biblical truth (in 1843). Barrett Montgonery’s The New Testament in Modern English was republished in 1952, and translated Romans 16:1-2: “I commend to you our sister Phoebe, who is a minister of the church at Cenchreae. I beg you to give her a Christian welcome, as the saints should, and to assist her in any matter in which she may have need of you. for she herself has been made an overseer to many people, including myself.” Prostateo, the verb meaning to be leader or ruler of, hold office, authority for providing, regent (Liddell & Scott’s classical dictionary). 

 

Guest Bio 
Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer, Ph.D., Th.M., M.Div., is Senior Professor of New Testament at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, S. Hamilton, MA. Born and reared in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, she has served as community organizer, minister, and educator in a variety of urban and suburban settings. She has over 200 publications, including 20 books, among these are commentaries of James, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, 1 Peter, and 2 Corinthians and books encouraging women in leadership, such as Beyond the Curse: Women Called to Ministry, Global Voices on Biblical Equality, Christian Egalitarian Leadership, The Goddess Revival: A Biblical Response to Goddess Spirituality, Marriage at the Crossroads, and the novel Cave of Little Faces. An ordained Presbyterian minister, she is married to the Rev. Dr. William David Spencer. Their blog is entitled Applying Biblical Truths Today. They have one adult son, Stephen. 

 

Related Resources 

Creating Gender-Accurate Bible Translations 

Video: Gender-Accurate Bible Translation Panel 

Presumption, Bias, and Gender Accuracy in Bible Translation 

]]> In the second episode, Dr. Mimi Haddad meets with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer to explore key ways Scripture goes against the grain of culture. While some scholars uphold Bible cultural as the moral standard, Aída encouraged readers to begin in the New Testament. CBE International false No 2447 154 full (Women in Scripture and History) Pandita Ramabai, a Bible Translator and Social Activist with Dr. Boaz Johnson (Women in Scripture and History) Pandita Ramabai, a Bible Translator and Social Activist with Dr. Boaz Johnson https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-history-pandita-ramabai-a-bible-translator-and-social-activist-with-dr-boaz-johnson/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-history-pandita-ramabai-a-bible-translator-and-social-activist-with-dr-boaz-johnson/#comments Fri, 24 Jan 2025 11:52:10 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/c13983f9-0cf2-3a95-aff3-0dce0112fab5 In this episode, Kim talks to Dr. Boaz Johnson about the Indian scholar and activist Pandita Ramabai. Through this interview we hear both about Dr. Johnson’s own background growing up in India and how the writings of Pandita Ramabai influenced his own faith. As the interview unfolds, we follow the progression of Ramabai’s own life from being an orphaned Hindu whose father secretly taught her the Hindu religious scriptures to becoming a Christian challenging and re-translating the poor bible translations. Always a rule breaker, Pandita Ramabai left a legacy of how to stand for the truth of God’s word.  

  

Guest Bio  

Rev. Boaz Johnson (PhD, Trinity International University and Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) is a professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at North Park University in Chicago, IL. His writing has appeared in publications such as Christianity Today and The Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society. 

 

Resources by Dr. Boaz Johnson

Mutuality Matters podcast: Women and Words: Women Pioneers in Bible Translation with Dr. Boaz Johnson  

Mutuality Magazine: Pandita Ramabai's Legacy: How Gender Conscious Bible Translation Impacts Christian Ministry  

CBE International Conference Audios:  

Pandita Ramabai: India and the Pandemic, Plague, Plight of Women with Boaz Johnson at the 2020 CBE International Conference  

Male, Female, Slave, and Free in the Context of a Pandemic: In the Thought of Katharine Bushnell at the 2022 CBE International Conference  

 

Related Resources  

Words Matter: How a Corrected Bible Translation Transformed a Community by Kimberly Dickson 

The Theological Quest of an Indian Woman: Dogma, Doubts, and Debates in Pandita Ramabai’s Early Christian Life  

Caste and Gender in India: The Bakht Singh Assemblies and Egalitarianism  

Radio: Women in Scripture and Mission 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> In this episode, Kim talks to Dr. Boaz Johnson about the Indian scholar and activist Pandita Ramabai. Through this interview we hear both about Dr. Johnson’s own background growing up in India and how the writings of Pandita Ramabai influenced his own faith. As the interview unfolds, we follow the progression of Ramabai’s own life from being an orphaned Hindu whose father secretly taught her the Hindu religious scriptures to becoming a Christian challenging and re-translating the poor bible translations. Always a rule breaker, Pandita Ramabai left a legacy of how to stand for the truth of God’s word.  

  

Guest Bio  

Rev. Boaz Johnson (PhD, Trinity International University and Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) is a professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at North Park University in Chicago, IL. His writing has appeared in publications such as Christianity Today and The Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society. 

 

Resources by Dr. Boaz Johnson

Mutuality Matters podcast: Women and Words: Women Pioneers in Bible Translation with Dr. Boaz Johnson  

Mutuality Magazine: Pandita Ramabai's Legacy: How Gender Conscious Bible Translation Impacts Christian Ministry  

CBE International Conference Audios:  

Pandita Ramabai: India and the Pandemic, Plague, Plight of Women with Boaz Johnson at the 2020 CBE International Conference  

Male, Female, Slave, and Free in the Context of a Pandemic: In the Thought of Katharine Bushnell at the 2022 CBE International Conference  

 

Related Resources  

Words Matter: How a Corrected Bible Translation Transformed a Community by Kimberly Dickson 

The Theological Quest of an Indian Woman: Dogma, Doubts, and Debates in Pandita Ramabai’s Early Christian Life  

Caste and Gender in India: The Bakht Singh Assemblies and Egalitarianism  

Radio: Women in Scripture and Mission 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> CBE International false No 1394 153 full Mutuality and Masculinity with Zachary Wagner: Part 1 (Home, Church, and World) Mutuality and Masculinity with Zachary Wagner: Part 1 (Home, Church, and World) https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/mutuality-and-masculinity-with-zachary-wagner-part-1-home-church-and-world/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/mutuality-and-masculinity-with-zachary-wagner-part-1-home-church-and-world/#comments Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:13:43 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/c51ea309-8dbe-3fd1-931e-7ea441525e49 This episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society. In this special two-part interview, we’re joined by Zachary C. Wagner, director of programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians and author of Non-Toxic Masculinity, to discuss the role unhelpful views of masculinity impact how women and men function together. 

 

Guest Bio 

Zachary Wagner is a writer, researcher, and ordained minister––thinker of thoughts and feeler of feelings who lives in Chicagoland. He is pursuing a DPhil (PhD) in New Testament studies at Keble College, University of Oxford. He also serves as the director of Programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians, where he co-hosts the CPT Podcast. His research interests include economics in the ancient world, divine wages in Second Temple Judaism and early Christianity, Pauline epistles, the Gospel of Matthew, and New Testament masculinities. His first book, Non-Toxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality, was published in 2023 with Intervarsity Press. Zach’s other writing interests include evangelical and “post-vangelical” Christian discipleship, theological formation, and speaking against church-based abuse. 

 

  Related Resources 

New Voices: Non-Toxic Masculinity with Zachary Wagner 

Jesus’ Vision for Masculinity: The (Actual) Best A Man Can Get 

My Kingdom for A World of Such Men: 3 Hallmarks of Healthy Masculinity 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society. In this special two-part interview, we’re joined by Zachary C. Wagner, director of programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians and author of Non-Toxic Masculinity, to discuss the role unhelpful views of masculinity impact how women and men function together. 

 

Guest Bio 

Zachary Wagner is a writer, researcher, and ordained minister––thinker of thoughts and feeler of feelings who lives in Chicagoland. He is pursuing a DPhil (PhD) in New Testament studies at Keble College, University of Oxford. He also serves as the director of Programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians, where he co-hosts the CPT Podcast. His research interests include economics in the ancient world, divine wages in Second Temple Judaism and early Christianity, Pauline epistles, the Gospel of Matthew, and New Testament masculinities. His first book, Non-Toxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality, was published in 2023 with Intervarsity Press. Zach’s other writing interests include evangelical and “post-vangelical” Christian discipleship, theological formation, and speaking against church-based abuse. 

 

 
Related Resources 

New Voices: Non-Toxic Masculinity with Zachary Wagner 

Jesus’ Vision for Masculinity: The (Actual) Best A Man Can Get 

My Kingdom for A World of Such Men: 3 Hallmarks of Healthy Masculinity 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this special two-part interview, we’re joined by Zachary C. Wagner, director of programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians and author of Non-Toxic Masculinity, to discuss the role unhelpful views of masculinity impact how women and men function together. CBE International false No 1842 152 full (Women and Words) Comparing Bible Translations with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer (Women and Words) Comparing Bible Translations with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-comparing-bible-translations-with-rev-dr-aida-besancon-spencer/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-comparing-bible-translations-with-rev-dr-aida-besancon-spencer/#comments Thu, 09 Jan 2025 23:28:41 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/1e85a732-2592-3abc-abcb-e8f934667e39 In the first episode, host Dr. Mimi Haddad meets with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer to discuss Bible translation. Aída considers the different goals of translation teams from translations focused on a word for word translation; to meaning for meaning; to thought for thought and those that are a paraphrase. Each translation team from the NRSV, to the NIV, KJV and the ESV elevate their priorities in ways that are often helpful. In addressing the complexities of Bible translation, Aída gave the following helpful insight. She said: 

  • Translators are caught between rendering Form vs. meaning. A “formal translation”/formal-equivalence/literal/word for word/linguistic= Translation tries to preserve form (syntax and sentence structure) of the original to convey meaning. The emphasis is the original text, E.g. NRSV, NAS. It Allows the reader to interpret. 
  • A “dynamic-equivalence”/functional-equivalence/cultural =Translation expresses the original meaning in the natural form of the receptor language. The receptor language is emphasized. Translators seek equivalence in meaning or thought for thought translation, E.g., TEV, NEB. It does more interpretation for readers. 
  • A “paraphrase”=A freely rendered restatement (of another translation) of the author’s thoughts in different words. But it is not a commentary, e.g. Living Bible, The Message. 

 

Aída cited those who contribute to the ESV team, noting their commitment to male-authority. She also expressed her preference for the NRSV assessing how the different translations render the crucial text 1 Tim 2:4–5—as it explains the work of Christ. She said: 

  1. “who desires all people (anthrōpōs) to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men (anthrōpōs), the man (anthrōpōs) Christ Jesus,” ESV
  2. “who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,” NIV
  3. “who wants all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, (NASB)
  4. “Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (KJV)
  5. “who desires everyone to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God; there is also one mediator between God and humankind, Christ Jesus, himself human, (NRSVupdated)+ CEB
  6. “God wants everyone to be saved and to know the whole truth, which is, There is only one God, and Christ Jesus is the only one who can bring us to God. Jesus was truly human. (CEV)-a dynamic equivalent
  7. “Our Creator longs to set all people free and guide them into the full understanding of the truth. For there is only one Great Spirit, and only one who can bring the Great Spirit and human beings together in peace. That one is Creator Sets Free (Jesus) the Chosen One, who is himself human.” (First Nations Version)
  8. “Our Savior God wants all humans to be saved and to come into knowledge of truth. For God is one, one is also a mediator between God and humans, human Christ Jesus, the One having given himself as a ransom on behalf of all” (ABS). 1 Timothy NCCS ABS 48-51 

For clarity on confusing passages that seem to diminish the dignity, value and agency of women or minorities, Aída recommends Bible translation teams comprised of men and women who do not unite in their preference for male-leadership as the ESV translation team does. Aída also celebrated the diversity of opinion on the NIV translation team which is led by expert Bible translators who differ on their view on women’s leadership. It’s always better to move beyond a single narrative on key issues. 

Aída discussed the NT and OT texts that challenge 3 New Testament passages (1 Tim. 2:11-15; Eph. 5:21-23) which routinely eclipse the many passages that demonstrate women’s leadership, like Acts 2:2-21; Gal. 3:28 and passages that demonstrate the leadership of Huldah and Deborah.  

 

Aída ends by emphasizing the oneness of man and woman, cited in Genesis 1:26-30 as both were called to rule over the world together, in a world without sin. Paul picks this up in Galatians 3:28, we are clothed in Christ—a purple robe, our true identity. 

In considering marriage, specifically in Eph. 5. Aída explained that Ephesians 5:18-21 is one sentence in Greek, with 2 main ideas: 

“And do not get yourself intoxicated with an intoxicating substance, in which is wild living, but be filled with the Spirit. 

What does it mean to be filled with the Spirit? 

Paul then uses 5 participles to describe what it means to be filled with the Spirit: 

  1. “speaking to one another in psalm and hymns and spiritual songs, 
  2. Singing 
  3. Making melody in your heart to the Lord 
  4. Thanking always for all in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to Father- God 
  5. Submitting yourselves to one another in fear/respect of Christ.” 

Verse 22 has no verb in the best Greek manuscripts: “the women…to own husbands as to the Lord…” 

Aída will return next month to address Bible translation as it has been used to further abuse and ethnic prejudice rather than human flourishing. 

 

Guest Bio 

Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer, Ph.D., Th.M., M.Div., is senior professor of New Testament at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, S. Hamilton, MA. Born and reared in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, she has served as community organizer, minister, and educator in a variety of urban and suburban settings. She has over 200 publications, including 20 books, among these are commentaries of James, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, 1 Peter, and 2 Corinthians and books encouraging women in leadership, such as Beyond the Curse: Women Called to Ministry, Global Voices on Biblical Equality, Christian Egalitarian Leadership, The Goddess Revival: A Biblical Response to Goddess Spirituality, Marriage at the Crossroads, and the novel, Cave of Little Faces. An ordained Presbyterian minister, she is married to the Rev. Dr. William David Spencer. Their blog is entitled Applying Biblical Truths Today. They have one adult son, Stephen. 

 

Related Resources 

Creating Gender-Accurate Bible Translations 

Video: Gender-Accurate Bible Translation Panel 

Presumption, Bias, and Gender Accuracy in Bible Translation 

 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In the first episode, host Dr. Mimi Haddad meets with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer to discuss Bible translation. Aída considers the different goals of translation teams from translations focused on a word for word translation; to meaning for meaning; to thought for thought and those that are a paraphrase. Each translation team from the NRSV, to the NIV, KJV and the ESV elevate their priorities in ways that are often helpful. In addressing the complexities of Bible translation, Aída gave the following helpful insight. She said: 

  • Translators are caught between rendering Form vs. meaning. A “formal translation”/formal-equivalence/literal/word for word/linguistic= Translation tries to preserve form (syntax and sentence structure) of the original to convey meaning. The emphasis is the original text, E.g. NRSV, NAS. It Allows the reader to interpret. 
  • A “dynamic-equivalence”/functional-equivalence/cultural =Translation expresses the original meaning in the natural form of the receptor language. The receptor language is emphasized. Translators seek equivalence in meaning or thought for thought translation, E.g., TEV, NEB. It does more interpretation for readers. 
  • A “paraphrase”=A freely rendered restatement (of another translation) of the author’s thoughts in different words. But it is not a commentary, e.g. Living Bible, The Message. 

 

Aída cited those who contribute to the ESV team, noting their commitment to male-authority. She also expressed her preference for the NRSV assessing how the different translations render the crucial text 1 Tim 2:4–5—as it explains the work of Christ. She said: 

  1. “who desires all people (anthrōpōs) to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men (anthrōpōs), the man (anthrōpōs) Christ Jesus,” ESV
  2. “who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,” NIV
  3. “who wants all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, (NASB)
  4. “Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (KJV)
  5. “who desires everyone to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God; there is also one mediator between God and humankind, Christ Jesus, himself human, (NRSVupdated)+ CEB
  6. “God wants everyone to be saved and to know the whole truth, which is, There is only one God, and Christ Jesus is the only one who can bring us to God. Jesus was truly human. (CEV)-a dynamic equivalent
  7. “Our Creator longs to set all people free and guide them into the full understanding of the truth. For there is only one Great Spirit, and only one who can bring the Great Spirit and human beings together in peace. That one is Creator Sets Free (Jesus) the Chosen One, who is himself human.” (First Nations Version)
  8. “Our Savior God wants all humans to be saved and to come into knowledge of truth. For God is one, one is also a mediator between God and humans, human Christ Jesus, the One having given himself as a ransom on behalf of all” (ABS). 1 Timothy NCCS ABS 48-51 

For clarity on confusing passages that seem to diminish the dignity, value and agency of women or minorities, Aída recommends Bible translation teams comprised of men and women who do not unite in their preference for male-leadership as the ESV translation team does. Aída also celebrated the diversity of opinion on the NIV translation team which is led by expert Bible translators who differ on their view on women’s leadership. It’s always better to move beyond a single narrative on key issues. 

Aída discussed the NT and OT texts that challenge 3 New Testament passages (1 Tim. 2:11-15; Eph. 5:21-23) which routinely eclipse the many passages that demonstrate women’s leadership, like Acts 2:2-21; Gal. 3:28 and passages that demonstrate the leadership of Huldah and Deborah.  

 

Aída ends by emphasizing the oneness of man and woman, cited in Genesis 1:26-30 as both were called to rule over the world together, in a world without sin. Paul picks this up in Galatians 3:28, we are clothed in Christ—a purple robe, our true identity. 

In considering marriage, specifically in Eph. 5. Aída explained that Ephesians 5:18-21 is one sentence in Greek, with 2 main ideas: 

“And do not get yourself intoxicated with an intoxicating substance, in which is wild living, but be filled with the Spirit. 

What does it mean to be filled with the Spirit? 

Paul then uses 5 participles to describe what it means to be filled with the Spirit: 

  1. “speaking to one another in psalm and hymns and spiritual songs, 
  2. Singing 
  3. Making melody in your heart to the Lord 
  4. Thanking always for all in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to Father- God 
  5. Submitting yourselves to one another in fear/respect of Christ.” 

Verse 22 has no verb in the best Greek manuscripts: “the women…to own husbands as to the Lord…” 

Aída will return next month to address Bible translation as it has been used to further abuse and ethnic prejudice rather than human flourishing. 

 

Guest Bio 

Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer, Ph.D., Th.M., M.Div., is senior professor of New Testament at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, S. Hamilton, MA. Born and reared in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, she has served as community organizer, minister, and educator in a variety of urban and suburban settings. She has over 200 publications, including 20 books, among these are commentaries of James, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, 1 Peter, and 2 Corinthians and books encouraging women in leadership, such as Beyond the Curse: Women Called to Ministry, Global Voices on Biblical Equality, Christian Egalitarian Leadership, The Goddess Revival: A Biblical Response to Goddess Spirituality, Marriage at the Crossroads, and the novel, Cave of Little Faces. An ordained Presbyterian minister, she is married to the Rev. Dr. William David Spencer. Their blog is entitled Applying Biblical Truths Today. They have one adult son, Stephen. 

 

Related Resources 

Creating Gender-Accurate Bible Translations 

Video: Gender-Accurate Bible Translation Panel 

Presumption, Bias, and Gender Accuracy in Bible Translation 

 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. CBE International false No 2231 151 full Women, Honor, and Head Coverings with Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall (Women in Scripture and History) Women, Honor, and Head Coverings with Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall (Women in Scripture and History) https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-honor-and-head-coverings-with-dr-cynthia-long-westfall-women-in-scripture-and-history/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-honor-and-head-coverings-with-dr-cynthia-long-westfall-women-in-scripture-and-history/#comments Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:43:53 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/38f54021-b85b-3948-b9a0-15d56d59b31e In this episode, Kim talks to Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall. Dr. Westfall shares her background, providing context that helps explain her interest in the New Testament and Paul. Her mentors, service, analytical mind and questions led her into digging into the New Testament and Paul, and women’s sexuality. She provides excellent context and interpretations of Paul’s difficult passages. She specifically focuses on how Paul instructs the church to honor the traditionally discarded women with the Ancient Corinthain symbol of honorable women, the head covering.  

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters Podcast 

00:24 Meet Dr. Cynthia Westfall 

01:07 Cynthia's Journey to Faith and Scholarship 

03:19 Struggles with Traditional Interpretations 

07:07 Embracing Egalitarianism 

15:01 Paul's Subversion of Cultural Norms 

19:51 Introduction to the Topic 

20:26 Traditional Interpretation of 1 Corinthians 11 

21:22 Questioning Traditional Views 

23:10 Alternate Interpretations Based on Veiling History 

24:38 Cultural Significance of Veiling 

26:55 Paul's True Intentions 

28:54 Implications for Women in the Church 

34:51 Order in Worship Services 

37:17 Conclusion and Final Thoughts 

 

Guest Bio   

Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall is associate professor of New Testament and has been at McMaster Divinity College since 2005, teaching courses in New Testament with a specialization in the book of Hebrews, Greek exegesis, biblical interpretation, intertextuality, women in ministry, biblical social justice and welcoming the other, courses which are devoted to a commitment to transformation by God’s word through its application to all aspects of life and ministry. Dr. Westfall has a constellation of research interests that are focused on issues concerned with the New Testament and its interpretation with contemporary methodologies and its translation. She places a special focus on texts and issues that have been traditionally overlooked. She has a priority of mentoring academic and professional students as well as others. Her ministry experience includes campus ministry, ministry to the urban community, support of the immigrant community in the US and Canada and the support of women pursuing God’s call on their lives. 

She currently serves on the board of Canadian Baptist Missions (CBM). She has served as chair of the board of Wentworth Baptist Church in Hamilton, ON, and continues to serve the church is various ways including preaching, consulting and serving as a delegate as well as speaking and teaching in the churches, organizations and assembly of the Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec (CBOQ). 

Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall is professor of New Testament at McMaster Divinity College in Canada.   

Resources by Dr. Westfall

Cynthia Long Westfall. Paul and Gender: Reclaiming the Apostle’s Vision for Men and Women in Christ (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Academic). 2016. 

Mutuality Matters podcast: Redeeming Paul - Part 1, Redeeming Paul - Part 2 

Mutuality Magazine: Difficult Passages in the Bible and How to Understand Them 

Priscilla Papers: On Developing a Consistent Hermeneutical Approach to the Application of General Scriptures 

 

CBE International Conference Audios:  

Paul and Gender: Highlights and Bombshells  

The Symbol of the Veil in the Ancient Near East and Today: Subjugation or Honor - Part 1  

The Symbol of the Veil in the Ancient Near East and Today: Subjugation or Honor? Part 2 

In Church or at Home? What is 1 Timothy 2:8-15 Really About? 

Answering Those Who Ask: Moving from Defense to a Breakthrough 

 

Relevant Resources  

Roy Ciampa was mentioned in the interview explaining the educational level of women in the New Testament Church his podcast interview with Dr. Mimi Hadad in Women and Words: Marriage in the Greco-Roman World in Translation with Dr. Rogy Ciampa 

Dr. Westfall references Kenneth Baily’s book about women in the Middle East. See Cynthia Long Westfall’s review of his book: Jesus Through Middle Eastern Eyes 

Veil Bound or Veiled Beauty? By Kay Blevins Calabrese 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> In this episode, Kim talks to Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall. Dr. Westfall shares her background, providing context that helps explain her interest in the New Testament and Paul. Her mentors, service, analytical mind and questions led her into digging into the New Testament and Paul, and women’s sexuality. She provides excellent context and interpretations of Paul’s difficult passages. She specifically focuses on how Paul instructs the church to honor the traditionally discarded women with the Ancient Corinthain symbol of honorable women, the head covering.  

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters Podcast 

00:24 Meet Dr. Cynthia Westfall 

01:07 Cynthia's Journey to Faith and Scholarship 

03:19 Struggles with Traditional Interpretations 

07:07 Embracing Egalitarianism 

15:01 Paul's Subversion of Cultural Norms 

19:51 Introduction to the Topic 

20:26 Traditional Interpretation of 1 Corinthians 11 

21:22 Questioning Traditional Views 

23:10 Alternate Interpretations Based on Veiling History 

24:38 Cultural Significance of Veiling 

26:55 Paul's True Intentions 

28:54 Implications for Women in the Church 

34:51 Order in Worship Services 

37:17 Conclusion and Final Thoughts 

 

Guest Bio   

Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall is associate professor of New Testament and has been at McMaster Divinity College since 2005, teaching courses in New Testament with a specialization in the book of Hebrews, Greek exegesis, biblical interpretation, intertextuality, women in ministry, biblical social justice and welcoming the other, courses which are devoted to a commitment to transformation by God’s word through its application to all aspects of life and ministry. Dr. Westfall has a constellation of research interests that are focused on issues concerned with the New Testament and its interpretation with contemporary methodologies and its translation. She places a special focus on texts and issues that have been traditionally overlooked. She has a priority of mentoring academic and professional students as well as others. Her ministry experience includes campus ministry, ministry to the urban community, support of the immigrant community in the US and Canada and the support of women pursuing God’s call on their lives. 

She currently serves on the board of Canadian Baptist Missions (CBM). She has served as chair of the board of Wentworth Baptist Church in Hamilton, ON, and continues to serve the church is various ways including preaching, consulting and serving as a delegate as well as speaking and teaching in the churches, organizations and assembly of the Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec (CBOQ). 

Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall is professor of New Testament at McMaster Divinity College in Canada.   

Resources by Dr. Westfall

Cynthia Long Westfall. Paul and Gender: Reclaiming the Apostle’s Vision for Men and Women in Christ (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Academic). 2016. 

Mutuality Matters podcast: Redeeming Paul - Part 1, Redeeming Paul - Part 2 

Mutuality Magazine: Difficult Passages in the Bible and How to Understand Them 

Priscilla Papers: On Developing a Consistent Hermeneutical Approach to the Application of General Scriptures 

 

CBE International Conference Audios:  

Paul and Gender: Highlights and Bombshells  

The Symbol of the Veil in the Ancient Near East and Today: Subjugation or Honor - Part 1  

The Symbol of the Veil in the Ancient Near East and Today: Subjugation or Honor? Part 2 

In Church or at Home? What is 1 Timothy 2:8-15 Really About? 

Answering Those Who Ask: Moving from Defense to a Breakthrough 

 

Relevant Resources  

Roy Ciampa was mentioned in the interview explaining the educational level of women in the New Testament Church his podcast interview with Dr. Mimi Hadad in Women and Words: Marriage in the Greco-Roman World in Translation with Dr. Rogy Ciampa 

Dr. Westfall references Kenneth Baily’s book about women in the Middle East. See Cynthia Long Westfall’s review of his book: Jesus Through Middle Eastern Eyes 

Veil Bound or Veiled Beauty? By Kay Blevins Calabrese 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> CBE International false No 2424 150 full (Home, Church, and World) The Five Myths of Purity Culture with Dr. Camden Morgante (Home, Church, and World) The Five Myths of Purity Culture with Dr. Camden Morgante https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-the-five-myths-of-purity-culture-with-dr-camden-morgante/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-the-five-myths-of-purity-culture-with-dr-camden-morgante/#comments Fri, 06 Dec 2024 09:31:12 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/bc3f74b6-3399-3547-a4be-a0170cbb559a In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosts Todd and Tara Korpi sit down with Dr. Camden Morgante to discuss her new book, Recovering from Purity Culture. The conversation explores the impact of purity culture on both men and women, the myths propagated by purity teachings, and practical steps for healing and recovery. Dr. Morgante shares her personal journey and professional insights as a psychologist, offering valuable guidance for individuals and couples striving for a healthier understanding of sexuality and spirituality. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:19 Welcome and Guest Introduction 

01:13 Dr. Camden Morgante's Background 

13:41 Impact on Women Raised in Purity Culture 

16:55 Support CBE International 

17:23 Impact on Men Raised in Purity Culture 

24:41 Techniques for Healing from Shame-Based Sexuality 

27:03 Purity Culture's Impact on Church Leadership 

  

Bio

Dr. Camden Morgante is a licensed psychologist with nearly 15 years of experience as a therapist and college professor. She owns a private therapy practice focusing on women’s issues, relationships, sexuality, trauma, and spirituality, and is a frequent speaker. Dr. Camden’s mission is to help Christians heal their faith from toxic beliefs. She is the author of Recovering from Purity Culture. Dr. Camden lives in Knoxville, Tennessee, with her husband and their daughter and son. 

 

Related Resources  5 Purity Culture Myths and Why They Are False Promises  My Body Kept Score: What Purity Culture Didn’t Know about Trauma 

7 Lies That Purity Culture Teaches Women 

Promises, Promises: Questioning the Protection of Purity Culture 

 

Disclaimer

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosts Todd and Tara Korpi sit down with Dr. Camden Morgante to discuss her new book, Recovering from Purity Culture. The conversation explores the impact of purity culture on both men and women, the myths propagated by purity teachings, and practical steps for healing and recovery. Dr. Morgante shares her personal journey and professional insights as a psychologist, offering valuable guidance for individuals and couples striving for a healthier understanding of sexuality and spirituality. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:19 Welcome and Guest Introduction 

01:13 Dr. Camden Morgante's Background 

13:41 Impact on Women Raised in Purity Culture 

16:55 Support CBE International 

17:23 Impact on Men Raised in Purity Culture 

24:41 Techniques for Healing from Shame-Based Sexuality 

27:03 Purity Culture's Impact on Church Leadership 

  

Bio

Dr. Camden Morgante is a licensed psychologist with nearly 15 years of experience as a therapist and college professor. She owns a private therapy practice focusing on women’s issues, relationships, sexuality, trauma, and spirituality, and is a frequent speaker. Dr. Camden’s mission is to help Christians heal their faith from toxic beliefs. She is the author of Recovering from Purity Culture. Dr. Camden lives in Knoxville, Tennessee, with her husband and their daughter and son. 

 

Related Resources 
5 Purity Culture Myths and Why They Are False Promises 
My Body Kept Score: What Purity Culture Didn’t Know about Trauma 

7 Lies That Purity Culture Teaches Women 

Promises, Promises: Questioning the Protection of Purity Culture 

 

Disclaimer

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 1895 149 full Bible Translation vs. Interpretation: Where Bible Translators Go Wrong with Hélène Dallaire (Women and Words) Bible Translation vs. Interpretation: Where Bible Translators Go Wrong with Hélène Dallaire (Women and Words) https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/bible-translation-vs-interpretation-where-bible-translators-go-wrong-with-helene-dallaire-women-and-words/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/bible-translation-vs-interpretation-where-bible-translators-go-wrong-with-helene-dallaire-women-and-words/#comments Mon, 25 Nov 2024 09:37:48 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/65f76247-34a5-34c4-9251-573cc653d05a In this episode of Mutuality Matters, Dr. Mimi Haddad and Dr. Hélène Dallaire engage in a rich discussion on women's roles in biblical scholarship, the challenges faced in male-dominated fields, the impact of flawed Bible translations on women, and the crucial need for translating Scripture accurately to empower women. They explore stories of women overcoming barriers, the significance of mentoring in leadership, and the broader cultural implications of hierarchical teachings. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:02 Breaking Gender Norms in Academia 

01:28 Impact of Bible Translations on Women 

05:06 The Role of Faith Communities in Addressing Abuse 

05:52 Reinterpreting “Helper” in Genesis 

11:08 Challenges and Progress for Women in Ministry 

18:23 Mentorship and Leadership Development 

25:23 Future of Bible Translation and Women's Roles 

29:51 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement 

33:01 Closing Remarks and Farewell 

 

Dr. Hélène Dallaire earned a PhD in Hebraic and Cognate Studies at Hebrew Union College. At Denver Seminary, Hélène is the Earl S. Kalland Professor OT and Semitic Languages and chairs the OT Department. She has served as Associate Pastor at Word Faith Christian Center in Vancouver and Oakville Canada. Hélène has published widely, with titles such as:  

 

Dr. Dallaire has published articles and chapters in: 

  • “Women: Let’s Use Our Voices – Psalm 68:12;” “Daughter of Zion/Jerusalem – Zephaniah 3:14-17;” and “A Woman in a Basket – Zechariah 5,” in Every Woman’s Bible, Tyndale; A review of 

Hélène teaches courses on Women in the Old Testament, the Ancient Near East, and Women’s Leadership for the Association of Theological Schools, and with a CBE chapter locally. She serves on the board of the CBE Denver Chapter. Hélène received a 2024 CBE Lifetime Achievement Award. 

Related Resources 

An Update on CBE’s Translation Project 

Words Matter: How a Corrected Translation Transformed a Community 

Correcting Caricatures: Women and Bible Translation 

 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, Dr. Mimi Haddad and Dr. Hélène Dallaire engage in a rich discussion on women's roles in biblical scholarship, the challenges faced in male-dominated fields, the impact of flawed Bible translations on women, and the crucial need for translating Scripture accurately to empower women. They explore stories of women overcoming barriers, the significance of mentoring in leadership, and the broader cultural implications of hierarchical teachings. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:02 Breaking Gender Norms in Academia 

01:28 Impact of Bible Translations on Women 

05:06 The Role of Faith Communities in Addressing Abuse 

05:52 Reinterpreting “Helper” in Genesis 

11:08 Challenges and Progress for Women in Ministry 

18:23 Mentorship and Leadership Development 

25:23 Future of Bible Translation and Women's Roles 

29:51 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement 

33:01 Closing Remarks and Farewell 

 

Dr. Hélène Dallaire earned a PhD in Hebraic and Cognate Studies at Hebrew Union College. At Denver Seminary, Hélène is the Earl S. Kalland Professor OT and Semitic Languages and chairs the OT Department. She has served as Associate Pastor at Word Faith Christian Center in Vancouver and Oakville Canada. Hélène has published widely, with titles such as:  

 

Dr. Dallaire has published articles and chapters in: 

  • “Women: Let’s Use Our Voices – Psalm 68:12;” “Daughter of Zion/Jerusalem – Zephaniah 3:14-17;” and “A Woman in a Basket – Zechariah 5,” in Every Woman’s Bible, Tyndale; A review of 

Hélène teaches courses on Women in the Old Testament, the Ancient Near East, and Women’s Leadership for the Association of Theological Schools, and with a CBE chapter locally. She serves on the board of the CBE Denver Chapter. Hélène received a 2024 CBE Lifetime Achievement Award. 

Related Resources 

An Update on CBE’s Translation Project 

Words Matter: How a Corrected Translation Transformed a Community 

Correcting Caricatures: Women and Bible Translation 

 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

]]> CBE International false No 2014 148 full (Home, Church, and World) How Church Movements Go from Freeing to Restricting Women with Dr. Joy Qualls (Home, Church, and World) How Church Movements Go from Freeing to Restricting Women with Dr. Joy Qualls https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-how-church-movements-go-from-freeing-to-restricting-women-with-dr-joy-qualls/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-how-church-movements-go-from-freeing-to-restricting-women-with-dr-joy-qualls/#comments Fri, 08 Nov 2024 12:14:59 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/3b3c6800-8a26-3b52-80ab-57cf5ccfc58a This episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society as a whole. We’re joined by Dr. Joy Qualls, professor at Biola University and author of God Forgive us for Being Women, to discuss the barriers women face in egalitarian settings to fully walking out their call. 

 

Guest Bio 

Joy Qualls is a nationally recognized writer and speaker.  Joy currently serves as an Associate Professor of Communication Studies and Associate Dean in the Division of Communication at Biola University. Joy writes and speaks on effective communication, leadership, and who we are as images bearers of Christ.  Joy has a passion for the local church and serving the body of Christ through teaching and consultation.  Joy is married to Kevin (a Licensed Professional Counselor) and together they teach on healthy relationships including marriage and parenting.  They are parents to Blakeley and Soren. 

 

Joy is the author of “God Forgive Us For Being Women: Rhetoric, Theology and the Pentecostal Tradition” (Wipf and Stock, 2018) and is featured in several publications including Influence Magazine, The Table, and Biola Magazine as well as an author in several edited volumes.  Joy has been the featured speaker for local church services and events as well as a sought after as a conference speaker and communication consultant. 

 

Follow Joy Qualls on Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook 

  Related Resources

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society as a whole. We’re joined by Dr. Joy Qualls, professor at Biola University and author of God Forgive us for Being Women, to discuss the barriers women face in egalitarian settings to fully walking out their call. 

 

Guest Bio 

Joy Qualls is a nationally recognized writer and speaker.  Joy currently serves as an Associate Professor of Communication Studies and Associate Dean in the Division of Communication at Biola University. Joy writes and speaks on effective communication, leadership, and who we are as images bearers of Christ.  Joy has a passion for the local church and serving the body of Christ through teaching and consultation.  Joy is married to Kevin (a Licensed Professional Counselor) and together they teach on healthy relationships including marriage and parenting.  They are parents to Blakeley and Soren. 

 

Joy is the author of “God Forgive Us For Being Women: Rhetoric, Theology and the Pentecostal Tradition” (Wipf and Stock, 2018) and is featured in several publications including Influence Magazine, The Table, and Biola Magazine as well as an author in several edited volumes.  Joy has been the featured speaker for local church services and events as well as a sought after as a conference speaker and communication consultant. 

 

Follow Joy Qualls on Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook 

 
Related Resources

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 2131 147 full (Women and Words) What is the most mistranslated Bible verse about women? with Dr. Hélène Dallaire (Women and Words) What is the most mistranslated Bible verse about women? with Dr. Hélène Dallaire https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-what-is-the-most-mistranslated-bible-verse-about-women-with-dr-helene-dallaire/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-what-is-the-most-mistranslated-bible-verse-about-women-with-dr-helene-dallaire/#comments Fri, 01 Nov 2024 09:26:14 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/86d9304b-6f6b-3a4a-9eb7-203a71c75339 In this episode of Mutuality Matters, “Women and Words: Bible Translation and Why it Matters,” Dr. Helene Dallaire, who holds a PhD in Hebraic and Cognate Studies and serves as the Earl S. Callen Professor of Old Testament and Semitic Languages at Denver Seminary. This episode touches on the most mistranslated verse in Scripture, prophetesses in the Old and New Testament, Genesis 1 and 2, and more! 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

01:00 Biblical Texts and Women's Roles 

02:44 Cultural Context and Scripture 

06:21 Ethical Systems in the Bible 

09:52 Women in Biblical History 

11:27 Translation Issues and Gender 

15:22 Prophets and Prophetesses 

28:04 Biblical Equality in Creation 

35:59 Conclusion and Resources 

    Guest Bio   Dr. Hélène Dallaire is our guest today. Hélène earned a PhD in Hebraic and Cognate Studies at Hebrew Union College. At Denver Seminary, Hélène is the Earl S. Kalland Professor OT and Semitic Languages and chairs the OT Department. She has served as Associate Pastor at Word Faith Christian Center in Vancouver and Oakville Canada. Hélène has published widely, with titles such as: 

The Baker Illustrated Study Bible 

Apollos OT Commentary Series by IVP 

Dr. Dallaire has published articles and chapters in: 

“Gender Issues and the Role of Women in Joshua,” In Formation and Interpretation of Old Testament Literature. Leiden, Brill 

“Women: Let’s Use Our Voices - Psalm 68:12;” “Daughter of Zion/Jerusalem – Zephaniah 3:14-17;” and “A Woman in a Basket – Zechariah 5,” in Every Woman’s Bible, Tyndale 

A review of Carol Meyer’s, Rediscovering Eve: Ancient Israelite Women in Context (Oxford) in the Journal of the Evangelical Study of the Old Testament 

“Women in the OT: A Legacy to Build On” for Denver Seminary’s Engage 

Magazine 

 

Hélène teaches courses on Women in the Old Testament, the Ancient Near East, and Women’s Leadership for the Association of Theological Schools, and with a CBE chapter locally. She serves on the board of the CBE Denver Chapter. Hélène received a 2024 CBE Lifetime Achievement Award. 

 

Related Resources    Presumption, Bias, and Gender Accuracy in Bible Translation 

A Familiar Picture: An Update on CBE's Translation Project 

The Central Role of Old Testament Prophetesses with Hélène Dallaire 

 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, “Women and Words: Bible Translation and Why it Matters,” Dr. Helene Dallaire, who holds a PhD in Hebraic and Cognate Studies and serves as the Earl S. Callen Professor of Old Testament and Semitic Languages at Denver Seminary. This episode touches on the most mistranslated verse in Scripture, prophetesses in the Old and New Testament, Genesis 1 and 2, and more! 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

01:00 Biblical Texts and Women's Roles 

02:44 Cultural Context and Scripture 

06:21 Ethical Systems in the Bible 

09:52 Women in Biblical History 

11:27 Translation Issues and Gender 

15:22 Prophets and Prophetesses 

28:04 Biblical Equality in Creation 

35:59 Conclusion and Resources 

 
 
Guest Bio  
Dr. Hélène Dallaire is our guest today. Hélène earned a PhD in Hebraic and Cognate Studies at Hebrew Union College. At Denver Seminary, Hélène is the Earl S. Kalland Professor OT and Semitic Languages and chairs the OT Department. She has served as Associate Pastor at Word Faith Christian Center in Vancouver and Oakville Canada. Hélène has published widely, with titles such as: 

The Baker Illustrated Study Bible 

Apollos OT Commentary Series by IVP 

Dr. Dallaire has published articles and chapters in: 

“Gender Issues and the Role of Women in Joshua,” In Formation and Interpretation of Old Testament Literature. Leiden, Brill 

“Women: Let’s Use Our Voices - Psalm 68:12;” “Daughter of Zion/Jerusalem – Zephaniah 3:14-17;” and “A Woman in a Basket – Zechariah 5,” in Every Woman’s Bible, Tyndale 

A review of Carol Meyer’s, Rediscovering Eve: Ancient Israelite Women in Context (Oxford) in the Journal of the Evangelical Study of the Old Testament 

“Women in the OT: A Legacy to Build On” for Denver Seminary’s Engage 

Magazine 

 

Hélène teaches courses on Women in the Old Testament, the Ancient Near East, and Women’s Leadership for the Association of Theological Schools, and with a CBE chapter locally. She serves on the board of the CBE Denver Chapter. Hélène received a 2024 CBE Lifetime Achievement Award. 

 

Related Resources 
 
Presumption, Bias, and Gender Accuracy in Bible Translation 

A Familiar Picture: An Update on CBE's Translation Project 

The Central Role of Old Testament Prophetesses with Hélène Dallaire 

 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode touches on the most mistranslated verse in Scripture, prophetesses in the Old and New Testament, Genesis 1 and 2, and more! CBE International false No 2238 146 full (Side by Side) How to Shape an Irresistible Egalitarian Church Culture with Rev. Lisa Johnson (Side by Side) How to Shape an Irresistible Egalitarian Church Culture with Rev. Lisa Johnson https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/side-by-side-how-to-shape-an-irresistible-egalitarian-church-culture-with-rev-lisa-johnson/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/side-by-side-how-to-shape-an-irresistible-egalitarian-church-culture-with-rev-lisa-johnson/#comments Fri, 25 Oct 2024 10:00:37 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/5cd5dc01-532f-3205-9ada-2499fe46797b What could it look like to build an egalitarian culture in our churches and organizations? In this episode, Rev. Lisa Johnson, executive director of leadership formation for the ECO denomination, joins Layla and Rob to discuss culture change through proactively inviting women into leadership, doggedly pursuing the 30 percent rule, and being intentional about representation. Beyond her many practical exhortations, listeners will be compelled by Lisa’s description of a culture marked by God’s “irresistible vision” for women and men partnering together in ministry.  

 

Guest Bio 

“Rev. Lisa Johnson grew up in Orange County, CA and received her BA in Communication Studies at Westmont College. She received her MDiv at Princeton Seminary and was ordained in 1999. She has ministered at five different churches in New Jersey, Santa Barbara, Orange County, and San Diego as an associate pastor. She now serves as the Executive Director of Leadership Formation for ECO and the Director of Mentored Ministry for FIT. Lisa has a passion for teaching, discipleship, leadership development, and spiritual formation, and loves serving ECO churches in this capacity. She lives in San Diego (Coronado), CA with her husband and has two young adult children, Ellie and Luke.” See more at https://eco-pres.org/staff.  

  

Mentioned in this episode: Better Together: How Women and Men Can Heal the Divide and Work Together to Transform the Future 

 

Related Resources   

Video: Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive 

 

Complementarianism Exists in Egalitarian Organizations and Churches Because of Patriarchy 

 

Retreating from Retreats: An Egalitarian Vision for Church Conferences 

 

Seven Egalitarian Leaders Reflect on the Movement’s Past, Present, and Future   

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> What could it look like to build an egalitarian culture in our churches and organizations? In this episode, Rev. Lisa Johnson, executive director of leadership formation for the ECO denomination, joins Layla and Rob to discuss culture change through proactively inviting women into leadership, doggedly pursuing the 30 percent rule, and being intentional about representation. Beyond her many practical exhortations, listeners will be compelled by Lisa’s description of a culture marked by God’s “irresistible vision” for women and men partnering together in ministry.  

 

Guest Bio 

“Rev. Lisa Johnson grew up in Orange County, CA and received her BA in Communication Studies at Westmont College. She received her MDiv at Princeton Seminary and was ordained in 1999. She has ministered at five different churches in New Jersey, Santa Barbara, Orange County, and San Diego as an associate pastor. She now serves as the Executive Director of Leadership Formation for ECO and the Director of Mentored Ministry for FIT. Lisa has a passion for teaching, discipleship, leadership development, and spiritual formation, and loves serving ECO churches in this capacity. She lives in San Diego (Coronado), CA with her husband and has two young adult children, Ellie and Luke.” See more at https://eco-pres.org/staff.  

  

Mentioned in this episode: Better Together: How Women and Men Can Heal the Divide and Work Together to Transform the Future 

 

Related Resources 
 

Video: Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive 

 

Complementarianism Exists in Egalitarian Organizations and Churches Because of Patriarchy 

 

Retreating from Retreats: An Egalitarian Vision for Church Conferences 

 

Seven Egalitarian Leaders Reflect on the Movement’s Past, Present, and Future 
 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> What could it look like to build an egalitarian culture in our churches and organizations? In this episode, Rev. Lisa Johnson, executive director of leadership formation for the ECO denomination, joins Layla and Rob to discuss culture change through proactively inviting women into leadership, doggedly pursuing the 30 percent rule, and being intentional about representation. CBE International false No 2395 145 full (Home, Church, and World) Penny Preaches with Amy and Rob Dixon (Home, Church, and World) Penny Preaches with Amy and Rob Dixon https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-penny-preaches-with-amy-and-rob-dixon/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-penny-preaches-with-amy-and-rob-dixon/#comments Fri, 18 Oct 2024 09:16:14 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/a288d61a-31ea-33cb-8bb2-59003b0b7ff6 This episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society as a whole. We’re joined by Amy and Rob Dixon who have co-authored the children’s book Penny Preaches and joined us to discuss their book and raising children to empower women. 

 

Guest Bios 

Amy Dixon is the author of three picture books––Maurice the Unbeastly, Sophie’s Animal Parade, and Marathon Mouse––as well as a middle-grade novel. When she’s not writing, she is editing and marketing other people’s books. She writes from her home in Clovis, California, where she lives on a steady diet of popcorn and coffee. 

Rob Dixon is the author of Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships. In addition to serving on InterVarsity staff for more than twenty-six years, Rob teaches at Fuller Theological Seminary and Fresno Pacific University. In his free time, Rob enjoys pickleball, long runs, and cheering for the LA Dodgers. 

  Related Resources 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society as a whole. We’re joined by Amy and Rob Dixon who have co-authored the children’s book Penny Preaches and joined us to discuss their book and raising children to empower women. 

 

Guest Bios 

Amy Dixon is the author of three picture books––Maurice the Unbeastly, Sophie’s Animal Parade, and Marathon Mouse––as well as a middle-grade novel. When she’s not writing, she is editing and marketing other people’s books. She writes from her home in Clovis, California, where she lives on a steady diet of popcorn and coffee. 

Rob Dixon is the author of Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships. In addition to serving on InterVarsity staff for more than twenty-six years, Rob teaches at Fuller Theological Seminary and Fresno Pacific University. In his free time, Rob enjoys pickleball, long runs, and cheering for the LA Dodgers. 

 
Related Resources 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This week we’re joined by Amy and Rob Dixon who have co-authored the children’s book Penny Preaches and joined us to discuss their book and raising children to empower women. CBE International false No 1981 144 full (Global Impact) Women and Peace in the Holy Lands with Dr. Salim Munayer (Global Impact) Women and Peace in the Holy Lands with Dr. Salim Munayer https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-women-and-peace-in-the-holy-lands-with-dr-salim-munayer/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-women-and-peace-in-the-holy-lands-with-dr-salim-munayer/#comments Fri, 11 Oct 2024 09:14:51 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/dd2559db-2d48-3475-819d-45f557e8e41f In this episode, Mimi Haddad and Kim Dickson interview Dr. Salim Munayer about his work on reconciliation in the Holy Lands. During the first half of the interview, he describes the steps involved in difficult reconciliations. In the second half of the interview, he discusses Jesus’s counter-cultural inclusion of women and their necessary inclusion in creating a lasting peace in the world. 

 

Guest Bio  Salim J. Munayer is executive director and founder of Musalaha Ministry of Reconciliation, which has been bringing Israelis and Palestinian together since 1990 and creating a forum for reconciliation. Salim is a Palestinian-Israeli born in Lod as one of six children and received his BA from Tel Aviv University in History and Geography, his MA from Fuller Theological Seminary, graduate studies in New Testament from Pepperdine University and his PhD from the Oxford Center of Mission Studies in the UK. His doctoral dissertation was written on “The Ethnic Identity of Palestinian Arab Christian Adolescents in Israel.” He has published several books on reconciliation, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and Christians in Israel and the Palestinian authority, his most recent work is Through My Enemy’s Eyes: Envisioning Reconciliation in Israel-Palestine, co-authored with Lisa Loden. Salim served as academic dean of the Bethlehem Bible College from 1989 to 2008 and is a professor at the college. He is also an adjunct professor at Fuller Theological Seminary and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Salim is married to Kay, founder of the Daylight Project, a charity that advocates for social justice among the marginalized in Palestinian and Israeli society. She is also a contributing writer on Another’s Voice, a blog by women providing hopeful perspectives in the midst of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Together they have four adult sons, Jack, Daniel, John, and Sam. 

 

Other Resources 

Dr. Salim Munayer began Musalaha: A Vision of Reconciliation 

Erica Chenoweth was referenced in this interview. Foreign Policy has recognized Chenoweth as one of the top scholars addressing nonviolent resistance and wrote: Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict.  

To learn more about Christianity in the Holy Lands listen to the Mutuality Matters Global Impact Interview with Grace Al-Zoughbi 

Like Dr. Munayer describing seeing his own struggles in scripture, read Grace Al-Zoughbi’s Mutuality article: God's Surprising Hesed: Reading Ruth as a Palestinian Woman 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> In this episode, Mimi Haddad and Kim Dickson interview Dr. Salim Munayer about his work on reconciliation in the Holy Lands. During the first half of the interview, he describes the steps involved in difficult reconciliations. In the second half of the interview, he discusses Jesus’s counter-cultural inclusion of women and their necessary inclusion in creating a lasting peace in the world. 

 

Guest Bio 
Salim J. Munayer is executive director and founder of Musalaha Ministry of Reconciliation, which has been bringing Israelis and Palestinian together since 1990 and creating a forum for reconciliation. Salim is a Palestinian-Israeli born in Lod as one of six children and received his BA from Tel Aviv University in History and Geography, his MA from Fuller Theological Seminary, graduate studies in New Testament from Pepperdine University and his PhD from the Oxford Center of Mission Studies in the UK. His doctoral dissertation was written on “The Ethnic Identity of Palestinian Arab Christian Adolescents in Israel.” He has published several books on reconciliation, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and Christians in Israel and the Palestinian authority, his most recent work is Through My Enemy’s Eyes: Envisioning Reconciliation in Israel-Palestine, co-authored with Lisa Loden. Salim served as academic dean of the Bethlehem Bible College from 1989 to 2008 and is a professor at the college. He is also an adjunct professor at Fuller Theological Seminary and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Salim is married to Kay, founder of the Daylight Project, a charity that advocates for social justice among the marginalized in Palestinian and Israeli society. She is also a contributing writer on Another’s Voice, a blog by women providing hopeful perspectives in the midst of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Together they have four adult sons, Jack, Daniel, John, and Sam. 

 

Other Resources 

Dr. Salim Munayer began Musalaha: A Vision of Reconciliation 

Erica Chenoweth was referenced in this interview. Foreign Policy has recognized Chenoweth as one of the top scholars addressing nonviolent resistance and wrote: Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict.  

To learn more about Christianity in the Holy Lands listen to the Mutuality Matters Global Impact Interview with Grace Al-Zoughbi 

Like Dr. Munayer describing seeing his own struggles in scripture, read Grace Al-Zoughbi’s Mutuality article: God's Surprising Hesed: Reading Ruth as a Palestinian Woman 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> In this episode, Mimi Haddad and Kim Dickson interview Dr. Salim Munayer about his work on reconciliation in the Holy Lands. During the first half of the interview, he describes the steps involved in difficult reconciliations. In the second half of the interview, he discusses Jesus’s counter-cultural inclusion of women and their necessary inclusion in creating a lasting peace in the world. CBE International false No 2186 143 full Women and Words: Examining Different Translations with Dr. Hélène Dallaire Women and Words: Examining Different Translations with Dr. Hélène Dallaire https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-examining-different-translations-with-dr-helene-dallaire/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-examining-different-translations-with-dr-helene-dallaire/#comments Fri, 04 Oct 2024 09:28:09 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/fa6e9e17-b58c-34ef-953c-0aecacd79f16 In this episode, Dr. Hélène Dallaire joins the discussion on biblical translation biases and the importance of accurately reflecting women in Scripture. The conversation covers how English readers can detect biases, the significance of diverse translation teams, and the dangers of relying on one translation alone. Dr. Dallaire emphasizes the need for critical examination of key passages on women, men, and marriage, advocating for interpretations that reflect women’s biblical equality. She shares insights from her course material about women in the ancient Near East to deepen understanding of biblical women. The episode encourages listeners to use multiple translations and engage with egalitarian resources to enhance their comprehension of Scripture.    Guest Bio   Dr. Hélène Dallaire is our guest today. Hélène earned a PhD in Hebraic and Cognate Studies at Hebrew Union College. At Denver Seminary, Hélène is the Earl S. Kalland Professor OT and Semitic Languages and chairs the OT Department. She has served as Associate Pastor at Word Faith Christian Center in Vancouver and Oakville Canada. Hélène has published widely, with titles such as: 

  • Dr. Dallaire has published articles and chapters in: 
  • “Women: Let’s Use Our Voices - Psalm 68:12;” “Daughter of Zion/Jerusalem – Zephaniah 3:14-17;” and “A Woman in a Basket – Zechariah 5,” in Every Woman’s Bible, Tyndale 

Hélène teaches courses on Women in the Old Testament, the Ancient Near East, and Women’s Leadership for the Association of Theological Schools, and with a CBE chapter locally. She serves on the board of the CBE Denver Chapter. Hélène received a 2024 CBE Lifetime Achievement Award. 

 

Related Resources 

Presumption and Bias in Bible Translation  Why We Need to Correct for Patriarchal Bias in Bible Translations  Women and Words: Translation Bias and How to Read the Bible Well with Dr. Roy Ciampa 

 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode, Dr. Hélène Dallaire joins the discussion on biblical translation biases and the importance of accurately reflecting women in Scripture. The conversation covers how English readers can detect biases, the significance of diverse translation teams, and the dangers of relying on one translation alone. Dr. Dallaire emphasizes the need for critical examination of key passages on women, men, and marriage, advocating for interpretations that reflect women’s biblical equality. She shares insights from her course material about women in the ancient Near East to deepen understanding of biblical women. The episode encourages listeners to use multiple translations and engage with egalitarian resources to enhance their comprehension of Scripture. 
 
Guest Bio  
Dr. Hélène Dallaire is our guest today. Hélène earned a PhD in Hebraic and Cognate Studies at Hebrew Union College. At Denver Seminary, Hélène is the Earl S. Kalland Professor OT and Semitic Languages and chairs the OT Department. She has served as Associate Pastor at Word Faith Christian Center in Vancouver and Oakville Canada. Hélène has published widely, with titles such as: 

  • Dr. Dallaire has published articles and chapters in: 
  • “Women: Let’s Use Our Voices - Psalm 68:12;” “Daughter of Zion/Jerusalem – Zephaniah 3:14-17;” and “A Woman in a Basket – Zechariah 5,” in Every Woman’s Bible, Tyndale 

Hélène teaches courses on Women in the Old Testament, the Ancient Near East, and Women’s Leadership for the Association of Theological Schools, and with a CBE chapter locally. She serves on the board of the CBE Denver Chapter. Hélène received a 2024 CBE Lifetime Achievement Award. 

 

Related Resources 

Presumption and Bias in Bible Translation 
Why We Need to Correct for Patriarchal Bias in Bible Translations 
Women and Words: Translation Bias and How to Read the Bible Well with Dr. Roy Ciampa 

 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 2325 142 full (Women in Scripture and Christian History) The Free Methodist Church and the Silencing of Women with Dr. Christy Mesaros-Winckles (Women in Scripture and Christian History) The Free Methodist Church and the Silencing of Women with Dr. Christy Mesaros-Winckles https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-christian-history-the-free-methodist-church-and-the-silencing-of-women-with-dr-christy-mesaros-winckles/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-christian-history-the-free-methodist-church-and-the-silencing-of-women-with-dr-christy-mesaros-winckles/#comments Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:35:08 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/09bd8454-8c34-386d-88c8-1c59322d663d In this episode of Mutuality Matters, Christy Mesaros-Winckles traces women’s ordination and leadership in the Free Methodist Church. Highlighting three women evangelists, and a key ally in their efforts to attain ordination, Mesaros-Winckles traces shift of the Free Methodist Church from very inclusive to exclusive. Mesaros-Winckles speaks to the power of the messages people absorbed as society shifted, specifically in the context of a strong anti-suffragist movement. These messages slowed the egalitarian movement, silencing women and ordination until 1974.  

   

Bio  

Dr. Christy Mesaros-Winckles is an associate professor in the Communication Arts & Sciences Department at Adrian College. She has a doctorate degree in Communication Studies from Bowling Green State University and is a two-time graduate of Spring Arbor University, where she completed both her Bachelor of Arts in communication and her Master of Arts in communication studies/professional writing. The author of several academic book chapters and peer-reviewed research articles, she strives to make her research accessible to a wider audience through her blog Free Methodist Feminist.  

 

Resources Referenced 

Silenced: The Forgotten Story of Progressive Era Free Methodist Women by Christy Mesaros-Winckles

Ordaining Women (1893) by Benjamin Titus Roberts

Book Review by Kimberly Dickson: "Silenced: The Forgotten Story of Progressive Era Free Methodist Women," Priscilla Papers, Summer 2024. 

 

Related Resources from CBE  Video: Silence, Women, and the Church with Aida Besancon Spencer (Spanish)   Book Review: Voices Long Silenced: Women Biblical Interpreters through the Centuries Complicity and Silence: How Lament Could Lead Us Toward a Better Place   

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, Christy Mesaros-Winckles traces women’s ordination and leadership in the Free Methodist Church. Highlighting three women evangelists, and a key ally in their efforts to attain ordination, Mesaros-Winckles traces shift of the Free Methodist Church from very inclusive to exclusive. Mesaros-Winckles speaks to the power of the messages people absorbed as society shifted, specifically in the context of a strong anti-suffragist movement. These messages slowed the egalitarian movement, silencing women and ordination until 1974.  

   

Bio  

Dr. Christy Mesaros-Winckles is an associate professor in the Communication Arts & Sciences Department at Adrian College. She has a doctorate degree in Communication Studies from Bowling Green State University and is a two-time graduate of Spring Arbor University, where she completed both her Bachelor of Arts in communication and her Master of Arts in communication studies/professional writing. The author of several academic book chapters and peer-reviewed research articles, she strives to make her research accessible to a wider audience through her blog Free Methodist Feminist.  

 

Resources Referenced 

Silenced: The Forgotten Story of Progressive Era Free Methodist Women by Christy Mesaros-Winckles

Ordaining Women (1893) by Benjamin Titus Roberts

Book Review by Kimberly Dickson: "Silenced: The Forgotten Story of Progressive Era Free Methodist Women," Priscilla Papers, Summer 2024. 

 

Related Resources from CBE 
Video: Silence, Women, and the Church with Aida Besancon Spencer (Spanish)  
Book Review: Voices Long Silenced: Women Biblical Interpreters through the Centuries Complicity and Silence: How Lament Could Lead Us Toward a Better Place 
 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> CBE International false No 1312 141 full (Home, Church, and World) Addressing Sexism in the Church with Dr. Heather Matthews (Home, Church, and World) Addressing Sexism in the Church with Dr. Heather Matthews https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-addressing-sexism-in-the-church-with-dr-heather-matthews/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-addressing-sexism-in-the-church-with-dr-heather-matthews/#comments Fri, 20 Sep 2024 10:13:35 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/8534c2ee-d3a7-34d0-9204-cd270953b6a5 This episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society as a whole. We’re joined by the Rev. Dr. Heather Matthews, program manager for the Doctor of Ministry program at Wheaton College Graduate School and author of Confronting Sexism in the Church to talk about a theology of antisexism and creating environments where women and men lead in interdependence and mutuality. 

 

Bios: 

The Rev. Dr. Heather Matthews is the Doctor of Ministry program manager at Wheaton College Graduate School. Dr. Matthews has also worked as a pastor, church planter, non-profit leader, and global worker for over twenty years. 

Heather has a DMin from Fuller Seminary, an MA in Educational Ministry and an MA in Counseling Ministry from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, and a BS in Biomedical Engineering from Northwestern University in Evanston, IL. 

Heather’s area of expertise is women in church leadership. She is the author of Confronting Sexism in the Church: How We Got Here and What We Can Do About It (IVP 2024). 

Heather’s broad range of personal and professional experience allows her to teach and consult on topics including abuse and trauma; gender and sexuality; healthy Christian leadership; church planting and pastoral ministry; marriage and divorce; betrayal and pornography; social and racial justice issues, cross-cultural issues, and local and global mission. 

Heather has four children and lives in the Chicago suburbs. 

 

Resources by Dr. Heather Matthews: 

Confronting Sexism in the Church 

Heathermatthews.com 

 

Related CBE Resources:     The Perfect Storm: Recovering from Shipwreck in Structural Sexism  The Pink Mic: A Token of Sexism in Churches 

Groanings of a New Creation: Racism and Sexism in the World Church 

 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society as a whole. We’re joined by the Rev. Dr. Heather Matthews, program manager for the Doctor of Ministry program at Wheaton College Graduate School and author of Confronting Sexism in the Church to talk about a theology of antisexism and creating environments where women and men lead in interdependence and mutuality. 

 

Bios: 

The Rev. Dr. Heather Matthews is the Doctor of Ministry program manager at Wheaton College Graduate School. Dr. Matthews has also worked as a pastor, church planter, non-profit leader, and global worker for over twenty years. 

Heather has a DMin from Fuller Seminary, an MA in Educational Ministry and an MA in Counseling Ministry from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, and a BS in Biomedical Engineering from Northwestern University in Evanston, IL. 

Heather’s area of expertise is women in church leadership. She is the author of Confronting Sexism in the Church: How We Got Here and What We Can Do About It (IVP 2024). 

Heather’s broad range of personal and professional experience allows her to teach and consult on topics including abuse and trauma; gender and sexuality; healthy Christian leadership; church planting and pastoral ministry; marriage and divorce; betrayal and pornography; social and racial justice issues, cross-cultural issues, and local and global mission. 

Heather has four children and lives in the Chicago suburbs. 

 

Resources by Dr. Heather Matthews: 

Confronting Sexism in the Church 

Heathermatthews.com 

 

Related CBE Resources:  
 
The Perfect Storm: Recovering from Shipwreck in Structural Sexism 
The Pink Mic: A Token of Sexism in Churches 

Groanings of a New Creation: Racism and Sexism in the World Church 

 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 1735 140 full (Women and Words) How do we transcend a Western perspective in Translation? with Dr. Hélène Dallaire (Women and Words) How do we transcend a Western perspective in Translation? with Dr. Hélène Dallaire https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-how-do-we-transcend-a-western-perspective-in-translation-with-dr-helene-dallaire/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-how-do-we-transcend-a-western-perspective-in-translation-with-dr-helene-dallaire/#comments Fri, 06 Sep 2024 09:39:33 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/b25ad534-9652-3f99-b622-81113fe5c9b4 In this episode of Mutuality Matters, “Women in Words: Bible Translation and Why it Matters,” Dr. Helene Dallaire, who holds a PhD in Hebraic and Cognate Studies and serves as the Earl S. Callen Professor of Old Testament and Semitic Languages at Denver Seminary, shares insights on the complexities of Bible translation, the importance of cultural sensitivity, and women in biblical scholarship. She highlights examples from her work in Israel, the Philippines, and with various Bible translation organizations, and emphasizes the need for diverse perspectives in translation teams to avoid biases and achieve accurate translations. The episode touches on the universality of biblical messages and the unique challenges faced by women in different cultural contexts. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:40 Introducing Dr. Hélène Dallaire 

02:37 Hélène's Journey into Bible Translation 

07:30 Experiences in Bible Translation 

19:48 Complexities and Challenges in Translation 

27:13 Addressing Bias in Bible Translation

 

Guest Bio   Dr. Hélène Dallaire is our guest today. Hélène earned a PhD in Hebraic and Cognate Studies at Hebrew Union College. At Denver Seminary, Hélène is the Earl S. Kalland Professor OT and Semitic Languages and chairs the OT Department. She has served as Associate Pastor at Word Faith Christian Center in Vancouver and Oakville Canada. Hélène has published widely, with titles such as: 

  • Dr. Dallaire has published articles and chapters in: 
  • “Women: Let’s Use Our Voices - Psalm 68:12;” “Daughter of Zion/Jerusalem – Zephaniah 3:14-17;” and “A Woman in a Basket – Zechariah 5,” in Every Woman’s Bible, Tyndale 

Hélène teaches courses on Women in the Old Testament, the Ancient Near East, and Women’s Leadership for the Association of Theological Schools, and with a CBE chapter locally. She serves on the board of the CBE Denver Chapter. Hélène received a 2024 CBE Lifetime Achievement Award. 

Related Resources 

Presumption and Bias in Bible Translation  Why We Need to Correct for Patriarchal Bias in Bible Translations  Women and Words: Translation Bias and How to Read the Bible Well with Dr. Roy Ciampa 

 

Disclaimer: The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, “Women in Words: Bible Translation and Why it Matters,” Dr. Helene Dallaire, who holds a PhD in Hebraic and Cognate Studies and serves as the Earl S. Callen Professor of Old Testament and Semitic Languages at Denver Seminary, shares insights on the complexities of Bible translation, the importance of cultural sensitivity, and women in biblical scholarship. She highlights examples from her work in Israel, the Philippines, and with various Bible translation organizations, and emphasizes the need for diverse perspectives in translation teams to avoid biases and achieve accurate translations. The episode touches on the universality of biblical messages and the unique challenges faced by women in different cultural contexts. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:40 Introducing Dr. Hélène Dallaire 

02:37 Hélène's Journey into Bible Translation 

07:30 Experiences in Bible Translation 

19:48 Complexities and Challenges in Translation 

27:13 Addressing Bias in Bible Translation

 

Guest Bio  
Dr. Hélène Dallaire is our guest today. Hélène earned a PhD in Hebraic and Cognate Studies at Hebrew Union College. At Denver Seminary, Hélène is the Earl S. Kalland Professor OT and Semitic Languages and chairs the OT Department. She has served as Associate Pastor at Word Faith Christian Center in Vancouver and Oakville Canada. Hélène has published widely, with titles such as: 

  • Dr. Dallaire has published articles and chapters in: 
  • “Women: Let’s Use Our Voices - Psalm 68:12;” “Daughter of Zion/Jerusalem – Zephaniah 3:14-17;” and “A Woman in a Basket – Zechariah 5,” in Every Woman’s Bible, Tyndale 

Hélène teaches courses on Women in the Old Testament, the Ancient Near East, and Women’s Leadership for the Association of Theological Schools, and with a CBE chapter locally. She serves on the board of the CBE Denver Chapter. Hélène received a 2024 CBE Lifetime Achievement Award. 

Related Resources 

Presumption and Bias in Bible Translation 
Why We Need to Correct for Patriarchal Bias in Bible Translations 
Women and Words: Translation Bias and How to Read the Bible Well with Dr. Roy Ciampa 

 

Disclaimer: The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 2157 139 full (Home, Church, and World) A Pentecostal Response to Headship Theology with Dr. Mark Chironna (Home, Church, and World) A Pentecostal Response to Headship Theology with Dr. Mark Chironna https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-a-pentecostal-response-to-headship-theology-with-dr-mark-chironna/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-a-pentecostal-response-to-headship-theology-with-dr-mark-chironna/#comments Fri, 16 Aug 2024 09:56:40 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/fcf5802c-4b19-36b3-b814-13b6c9a4f8b8 This episode is a part of the Home, Church, and World theme of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this episode we discuss dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society. We’re joined by Dr. Mark Chironna, who is a Pentecostal bishop, semiotician, and founding pastor of Church on the Living Edge in Longwood, Florida. Dr. Mark Chironna describes how the church is strengthened as a result of women and men leading in mutuality rather than headship. 

   

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters 

00:31 Introduction to Headship Theology 

01:06 Interview with Dr. Mark Sharona 

02:01 Debunking Headship Theology 

02:36 Historical and Cultural Context 

07:03 Women in Ministry: Personal Experiences 

09:44 The Role of Women in Church History 

13:17 Theological Reflections on Women’s Biblical Equality 

26:48 Practical Steps for Church Leadership 

30:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts 

 

Bios: [Source] 

Mark Chironna serves as a bishop in the International Communion of Charismatic Churches, and the presiding bishop of a network of related pastors and churches, as well as the founder and bishop protector of the Order of St. Maximus, a religious order in the tradition of the many orders that have existed in church history. He has pioneered local churches in Raleigh, North Carolina, as well as Longwood, Florida, where he currently serves as overseer of the Church on the Living Edge.     He has been involved in the proclamation of the Gospel for almost five decades now, internationally. His academic training includes an undergraduate degree in Music Education and Performance, while minoring in Religion from Wagner University; a Master of Arts in Psychology from Saybrook University; a Doctor of Ministry in Applied Semiotics and Futures Studies from George Fox University; and a Doctor of Philosophy in Pentecostal Theology from University of Birmingham, UK. In addition, he is a board certified coach with over 20,000 hours of coaching and coach-mentoring experience, spanning almost three decades. 

 

Follow Mark on X or Facebook.

Read Mark’s latest book On the Edge of Hope. 

 

Related Resources

Pentecostal Women Leaders: The Interplay of Egalitarian Theology, Feminism, and Pentecostalism

Headship Madness: An Introduction to “Headship” (Part 1)  Home, Church, and World: What is Headship Theology? Part 1 with Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams   Home, Church, and World: What is Headship Theology? Part 2 with Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode is a part of the Home, Church, and World theme of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this episode we discuss dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society. We’re joined by Dr. Mark Chironna, who is a Pentecostal bishop, semiotician, and founding pastor of Church on the Living Edge in Longwood, Florida. Dr. Mark Chironna describes how the church is strengthened as a result of women and men leading in mutuality rather than headship. 

   

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters 

00:31 Introduction to Headship Theology 

01:06 Interview with Dr. Mark Sharona 

02:01 Debunking Headship Theology 

02:36 Historical and Cultural Context 

07:03 Women in Ministry: Personal Experiences 

09:44 The Role of Women in Church History 

13:17 Theological Reflections on Women’s Biblical Equality 

26:48 Practical Steps for Church Leadership 

30:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts 

 

Bios: [Source] 

Mark Chironna serves as a bishop in the International Communion of Charismatic Churches, and the presiding bishop of a network of related pastors and churches, as well as the founder and bishop protector of the Order of St. Maximus, a religious order in the tradition of the many orders that have existed in church history. He has pioneered local churches in Raleigh, North Carolina, as well as Longwood, Florida, where he currently serves as overseer of the Church on the Living Edge.  
 
He has been involved in the proclamation of the Gospel for almost five decades now, internationally. His academic training includes an undergraduate degree in Music Education and Performance, while minoring in Religion from Wagner University; a Master of Arts in Psychology from Saybrook University; a Doctor of Ministry in Applied Semiotics and Futures Studies from George Fox University; and a Doctor of Philosophy in Pentecostal Theology from University of Birmingham, UK. In addition, he is a board certified coach with over 20,000 hours of coaching and coach-mentoring experience, spanning almost three decades. 

 

Follow Mark on X or Facebook.

Read Mark’s latest book On the Edge of Hope. 

 

Related Resources

Pentecostal Women Leaders: The Interplay of Egalitarian Theology, Feminism, and Pentecostalism

Headship Madness: An Introduction to “Headship” (Part 1) 
Home, Church, and World: What is Headship Theology? Part 1 with Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams  
Home, Church, and World: What is Headship Theology? Part 2 with Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 1944 138 full (Women and Words) Context and Canon: Women's Leadership in Biblical Translation (Women and Words) Context and Canon: Women's Leadership in Biblical Translation https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-context-and-canon-womens-leadership-in-biblical-translation/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-context-and-canon-womens-leadership-in-biblical-translation/#comments Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:08:20 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/18680676-162a-3b55-b9fc-084739ef7c3b Mutuality Matters the discussion focuses on how Bible translation can impact understanding and implementation of biblical equality. The episode explores the complexities translators face working with Hebrew, Greek, and other languages, and the importance of context in interpreting passages that have historically been used to limit women's roles. It highlights the need for study Bibles that provide contextual notes and alternative interpretations to promote humanizing and empowering readings of the Bible. The guest speaker emphasizes the role of cultural understanding and interactive Bible studies in uncovering deeper nuances in Scripture.   00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 00:27 Journey to Bible Translation Expertise 02:29 Challenges in Translating Biblical Texts 07:20 Supporting Women's Leadership Through Scripture 13:27 Impact of Failed Bible Translations 20:33 The Role of Women in Bible Study and Translation 24:23 Future of Bible Translations and Women's Biblical Equality 27:49 Concluding Thoughts on Bible Translation and Equality   Guest Bio Rev. Dr. Marlon Winedt, a theologian, philosopher, and Bible translator, earned his BA in Theology/Philosophy from the University of Steubenville, Ohio (magna cum laude 1985) and his Drs-MA in Philosophy (cum laude) from the University of Tilburg (1988). He completed post-graduate work in Bible translation and linguistics (1996, 2001), earning a PhD in Bible Translation (1999), all at the Free University of Amsterdam. Engaged in Bible translation for 35 years, he contributed to the Common Language Papiamentu Bible and serves as a Bible Translation Consultant for the United Bible Societies, mentoring teams across the Caribbean and the Americas. He also trains translation consultants worldwide. Marlon, a pastor, radio host, and columnist, contributes to academic and popular discourse in various languages, with his fields of interests being, among others, biblical languages, Greco-Roman world, Performance Criticism and Creolistics. He resides with his wife Sandra on Curaçao, engaging in diverse international teaching roles.    The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. ]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters the discussion focuses on how Bible translation can impact understanding and implementation of biblical equality. The episode explores the complexities translators face working with Hebrew, Greek, and other languages, and the importance of context in interpreting passages that have historically been used to limit women’s roles. CBE International false No 1964 137 full (Women in Scripture and History) Bringing Phoebe and Junia to Life with Dr. Nijay Gupta (Women in Scripture and History) Bringing Phoebe and Junia to Life with Dr. Nijay Gupta https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-history-bringing-phoebe-and-junia-to-life-with-dr-nijay-gupta/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-history-bringing-phoebe-and-junia-to-life-with-dr-nijay-gupta/#comments Fri, 19 Jul 2024 00:20:05 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/efd6217a-7cf2-32d0-8232-e8ad75663cee In this episode, Kim Dickson talks with Dr. Nijay Gupta about the New Testament women he highlights in his Book Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church. Women who are little known to the average contemporary Christian come alive as Nijay discusses the world in which these remarkable women lived, served, and suffered on behalf of Jesus. Nijay describes the importance of letter carriers in the Roman world and the significance of Paul choosing Phoebe for this important work. He also discusses the translation and theological issues that hid Junia’s apostleship as a woman. 

  

Bio  

Dr. Nijay K. Gupta is professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary. He has written or edited over twenty books including A Beginner's Guide to New Testament Studies, Paul and the Language of Faith, and the award-winning and bestselling Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church. Gupta is also co-editor of the Dictionary of Paul and His Letters, and he is a senior translator for the New Living Translation.  

 

Related Resources: 

Find Nijay Gupta at his blog.

 

Resources mentioned in Interview  

Nijay Gupta, Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and MInistered in the Early Church, (Downers Grove, Il: IVP Academic, 2023).  

Paul and First-Century Letter Writing: Secretaries, Composition and Collection Paperback – October 22, 2004 by E. Randolph Richards 

 

More CBE Resources with Nijay Gupta 

Book Review: Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church by Brianna Cortez 

Mutuality Matters podcast: New Voices: Women and Authority in the Early Church with Dr. Nijay Gupta 

Galilee's Got Talent: How the Arts Empower Women 

Teach us, Mary: The Authority of Women Teachers in the Church in Light of the Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55) 

Mutuality Blog/Magazine: Why Deborah Makes All the Difference    Learn more about women in scripture and Christian history at ministrywomen.org.    Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests that do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> In this episode, Kim Dickson talks with Dr. Nijay Gupta about the New Testament women he highlights in his Book Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church. Women who are little known to the average contemporary Christian come alive as Nijay discusses the world in which these remarkable women lived, served, and suffered on behalf of Jesus. Nijay describes the importance of letter carriers in the Roman world and the significance of Paul choosing Phoebe for this important work. He also discusses the translation and theological issues that hid Junia’s apostleship as a woman. 

  

Bio  

Dr. Nijay K. Gupta is professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary. He has written or edited over twenty books including A Beginner's Guide to New Testament Studies, Paul and the Language of Faith, and the award-winning and bestselling Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church. Gupta is also co-editor of the Dictionary of Paul and His Letters, and he is a senior translator for the New Living Translation.  

 

Related Resources: 

Find Nijay Gupta at his blog.

 

Resources mentioned in Interview  

Nijay Gupta, Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and MInistered in the Early Church, (Downers Grove, Il: IVP Academic, 2023).  

Paul and First-Century Letter Writing: Secretaries, Composition and Collection Paperback – October 22, 2004 by E. Randolph Richards 

 

More CBE Resources with Nijay Gupta 

Book Review: Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church by Brianna Cortez 

Mutuality Matters podcast: New Voices: Women and Authority in the Early Church with Dr. Nijay Gupta 

Galilee's Got Talent: How the Arts Empower Women 

Teach us, Mary: The Authority of Women Teachers in the Church in Light of the Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55) 

Mutuality Blog/Magazine: Why Deborah Makes All the Difference 
 
Learn more about women in scripture and Christian history at ministrywomen.org. 
 
Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests that do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> CBE International false No 2895 136 full (Home, Church, and World) Empowering Women Leaders in the Black Church (Home, Church, and World) Empowering Women Leaders in the Black Church https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/empowering-women-leaders-in-black-church/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/empowering-women-leaders-in-black-church/#comments Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:24:34 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/6abb2b7b-ffb9-373f-a2ef-d195742dec11 This episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology—dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society as a whole. We’re joined by Petra and Garry Scott, leaders of the ministry The Road to Jerusalem. In this episode they discuss headship in ministry and marriage, as well as navigating the complexities of headship theology as African American leaders. 

 

Bios: [Source] 

Petra Scott, President and CEO of The Road to Jerusalem: Petra Scott embraced her call to exposing the body of believers to the significance of One New Humanity in 2004. She experienced a deep revelation of the significance of the Jewish Culture of Jesus and how understanding this can enhance the faith expression of believers. She believes that demonstrations between Jews & Gentiles can change homes, communities, and the WORLD.   

Petra has experience in both the private and public sectors as a teacher, life coach, pastor, and consultant. She desires to see the philanthropic side of TRTJ flourish too something that will impact the kingdom. In addition to her passion for ministry Petra is a wife and mom, she has three children Darius, Devorah, and Isaac. She is the author of Intimacy: Unlearning Religion, Embracing God. 

 

Garry Scott, VP of Community Engagement of The Road to Jerusalem: Garry Scott has a passion and call to those who have been forgotten in society. He knows what it’s like to grow up in poverty and become a causality of the streets. Garry has devoted his life to helping those who are hard to reach and outcasted. In addition to his work with The Road to Jerusalem he works as a Northside Community Center Coordinator in Jacksonville, FL. His desire is to see lives transformed and violence cease at the Lord’s Table. 

  Related Resources:    Intersectionality: Messages of Hope: Preaching and Mental Health in the Black Church with Rev. Dr. Dominique A. Robinson

Celebrating Black Women Leaders in Church and Society 

Mrs. Coretta Scott King: The Enduring Legacy of a Black Woman Leader 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology—dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society as a whole. We’re joined by Petra and Garry Scott, leaders of the ministry The Road to Jerusalem. In this episode they discuss headship in ministry and marriage, as well as navigating the complexities of headship theology as African American leaders. 

 

Bios: [Source] 

Petra Scott, President and CEO of The Road to Jerusalem: Petra Scott embraced her call to exposing the body of believers to the significance of One New Humanity in 2004. She experienced a deep revelation of the significance of the Jewish Culture of Jesus and how understanding this can enhance the faith expression of believers. She believes that demonstrations between Jews & Gentiles can change homes, communities, and the WORLD. 
 

Petra has experience in both the private and public sectors as a teacher, life coach, pastor, and consultant. She desires to see the philanthropic side of TRTJ flourish too something that will impact the kingdom. In addition to her passion for ministry Petra is a wife and mom, she has three children Darius, Devorah, and Isaac. She is the author of Intimacy: Unlearning Religion, Embracing God. 

 

Garry Scott, VP of Community Engagement of The Road to Jerusalem: Garry Scott has a passion and call to those who have been forgotten in society. He knows what it’s like to grow up in poverty and become a causality of the streets. Garry has devoted his life to helping those who are hard to reach and outcasted. In addition to his work with The Road to Jerusalem he works as a Northside Community Center Coordinator in Jacksonville, FL. His desire is to see lives transformed and violence cease at the Lord’s Table. 

 
Related Resources: 
 
Intersectionality: Messages of Hope: Preaching and Mental Health in the Black Church with Rev. Dr. Dominique A. Robinson

Celebrating Black Women Leaders in Church and Society 

Mrs. Coretta Scott King: The Enduring Legacy of a Black Woman Leader 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this segment we discuss headship theology—dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society as a whole. We’re joined by Petra and Garry Scott, leaders of the ministry The Road to Jerusalem. In this episode they discuss headship in ministry and marriage, as well as navigating the complexities of headship theology as African American leaders. CBE International false No 1827 135 full (Women and Words) Bible Translation in Global Perspective with Rev. Dr. Marlon Winedt (Women and Words) Bible Translation in Global Perspective with Rev. Dr. Marlon Winedt https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/bible-translation-global-perspective/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/bible-translation-global-perspective/#comments Thu, 04 Jul 2024 20:16:57 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/484af0ad-3347-3ae0-8177-10736db28b88 In this episode of Mutuality Matters, Rev. Dr. Marlon Winedt shows how the biblical narratives often oppose oppressive cultural practices. Examples include Mary and Mary who are portrayed as disciples. Jesus does not scold them for sitting at his feet versus feeding the disciples. Further, throughout Scripture, women are often subjects and not objects of leadership and discipleship. Consider Priscilla and Aquila, cited 6 times in the NT—texts in which Priscilla precedes her husband 4 of the 6 references according to the earliest, most reliable manuscripts. Later translations were altered in accommodating to patriarchal expectations by moving Aquila ahead of Priscilla. 

Other places that minimize women’s agency and voice include the preponderance of masculine pronouns and words like “brother.” In such cases it’s important to observe not only inconsistencies but also patterns that demean women like using feminine words to align women with negative qualities whereas masculine language represents positive characteristics. Or when Paul tells us we are all adopted as “sons,” which is legal language. Even so, translations work to preserve the legal notion that salvation is universal which always includes women. Other examples include words used to accurately translate Eve as ezer, meaning a worthy, strong partner versus a lowly assistant, a subordinate or subservient helper… making clear that ezer is most often used for God’s rescue! 

Marlon also considered the significant calling women had as church planters and as custodians of language, culture, and faith. In his region—the Caribbean—women led missionary activity—a leadership often not permitted in their northern context. In the Caribbean, the culture is also more pragmatic and women enjoy many roles denied them in the north. What is more, in the Caribbean, the narratives of Scripture have far greater weight than proclamation texts, here again elevating women often included in the narratives of the Bible.  

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:38 Meet Marlon Winedt: Scholar and Translator 

02:24 Exploring Biblical Women and Cultural Contexts 

06:07 Translation Challenges and Gender Bias 

10:09 The Importance of Inclusive Language 

16:21 CBE Conference and Translation Efforts 

21:06 Global Perspectives on Women in Leadership 

28:51 Concluding Thoughts and Future Episodes 

 

Bio 

Rev. Dr. Marlon Winedt, a theologian, philosopher, and Bible translator, earned his BA in Theology/Philosophy from the University of Steubenville, Ohio (magna cum laude 1985) and his Drs-MA in Philosophy (cum laude) from the University of Tilburg (1988). He completed post-graduate work in Bible translation and linguistics (1996, 2001), earning a PhD in Bible Translation (1999), all at the Free University of Amsterdam. Engaged in Bible translation for 35 years, he contributed to the Common Language Papiamentu Bible and serves as a Bible Translation Consultant for the United Bible Societies, mentoring teams across the Caribbean and the Americas. He also trains translation consultants worldwide. Marlon, a pastor, radio host, and columnist, contributes to academic and popular discourse in various languages, with his fields of interests being, among others, biblical languages, Greco-Roman world, Performance Criticism and Creolistics. He resides with his wife Sandra on Curaçao, engaging in diverse international teaching roles.  

Related Resources 

Unveiling Old Testament Women with Accurate Translation 

She’s Not a Whore: Pejorative Language and Translation Bias in Ezekiel 16 

Vindicating the Vixens: How We View Bible Women Shapes Our Response to #MeToo 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, Rev. Dr. Marlon Winedt shows how the biblical narratives often oppose oppressive cultural practices. Examples include Mary and Mary who are portrayed as disciples. Jesus does not scold them for sitting at his feet versus feeding the disciples. Further, throughout Scripture, women are often subjects and not objects of leadership and discipleship. Consider Priscilla and Aquila, cited 6 times in the NT—texts in which Priscilla precedes her husband 4 of the 6 references according to the earliest, most reliable manuscripts. Later translations were altered in accommodating to patriarchal expectations by moving Aquila ahead of Priscilla. 

Other places that minimize women’s agency and voice include the preponderance of masculine pronouns and words like “brother.” In such cases it’s important to observe not only inconsistencies but also patterns that demean women like using feminine words to align women with negative qualities whereas masculine language represents positive characteristics. Or when Paul tells us we are all adopted as “sons,” which is legal language. Even so, translations work to preserve the legal notion that salvation is universal which always includes women. Other examples include words used to accurately translate Eve as ezer, meaning a worthy, strong partner versus a lowly assistant, a subordinate or subservient helper… making clear that ezer is most often used for God’s rescue! 

Marlon also considered the significant calling women had as church planters and as custodians of language, culture, and faith. In his region—the Caribbean—women led missionary activity—a leadership often not permitted in their northern context. In the Caribbean, the culture is also more pragmatic and women enjoy many roles denied them in the north. What is more, in the Caribbean, the narratives of Scripture have far greater weight than proclamation texts, here again elevating women often included in the narratives of the Bible.  

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:38 Meet Marlon Winedt: Scholar and Translator 

02:24 Exploring Biblical Women and Cultural Contexts 

06:07 Translation Challenges and Gender Bias 

10:09 The Importance of Inclusive Language 

16:21 CBE Conference and Translation Efforts 

21:06 Global Perspectives on Women in Leadership 

28:51 Concluding Thoughts and Future Episodes 

 

Bio 

Rev. Dr. Marlon Winedt, a theologian, philosopher, and Bible translator, earned his BA in Theology/Philosophy from the University of Steubenville, Ohio (magna cum laude 1985) and his Drs-MA in Philosophy (cum laude) from the University of Tilburg (1988). He completed post-graduate work in Bible translation and linguistics (1996, 2001), earning a PhD in Bible Translation (1999), all at the Free University of Amsterdam. Engaged in Bible translation for 35 years, he contributed to the Common Language Papiamentu Bible and serves as a Bible Translation Consultant for the United Bible Societies, mentoring teams across the Caribbean and the Americas. He also trains translation consultants worldwide. Marlon, a pastor, radio host, and columnist, contributes to academic and popular discourse in various languages, with his fields of interests being, among others, biblical languages, Greco-Roman world, Performance Criticism and Creolistics. He resides with his wife Sandra on Curaçao, engaging in diverse international teaching roles.  

Related Resources 

Unveiling Old Testament Women with Accurate Translation 

She’s Not a Whore: Pejorative Language and Translation Bias in Ezekiel 16 

Vindicating the Vixens: How We View Bible Women Shapes Our Response to #MeToo 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, Rev. Dr. Marlon Winedt shows how the biblical narratives often oppose oppressive cultural practices. CBE International false No 1809 134 full (Side by Side) Navigating Egalitarian Theology with Dr. Jeff Liou (Side by Side) Navigating Egalitarian Theology with Dr. Jeff Liou https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/navigating-egalitarian-theology/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/navigating-egalitarian-theology/#comments Thu, 20 Jun 2024 23:24:47 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/8073ecc5-85f7-38f8-9729-aa3d7099192a What could it look like for leaders to help their people embrace and embody a robust egalitarian conviction? “Emerging egalitarian” Dr. Jeff Liou, InterVarsity’s National Director of Theological Formation, joins Layla and Rob to reflect on his own journey with egalitarianism, and he offers a compelling picture of a theological formation process marked by humility, curiosity, deep community, and thoughtful encounters with difference.  

  00:00 Introduction 

00:54 Guest Introduction: Jeff Liou's Background 

05:17 Discussion on Egalitarian Theological Formation 

15:18 Practical Advice for Egalitarian Leadership  

22:03 Final Thoughts and Resources 

 

Bio 

Dr. Jeff Ming Liou is the National Director of Theological Formation for InterVarsity Christian Fellowship/USA. He is also an affiliate assistant professor of Christian ethics at Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, CA, where he received his Ph.D. in Theology and Culture.  Jeff co-authored a book with Robert Chao Romero called Christianity and Critical Race Theory. Additionally, Liou has written papers on race and justice, Asian American Christianity, theological ethics, and political theology. Ordained in the Christian Reformed Church of North America, Liou has served as a campus minister, pastor, and university chaplain.  

  Related Resources 

Jeff’s podcast.

Jeff’s book. 

Jeff references the four quadrant quiz he created, click here to take. The quiz will ask for your email, but promises to not use it to contact you.

 

8 Ways The Church Can Advance Egalitarian Theology  Does Egalitarian Theology Have Anything To Say To People of Color? 

Becoming Egalitarian: Reconciling Experience with Scripture 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> What could it look like for leaders to help their people embrace and embody a robust egalitarian conviction? “Emerging egalitarian” Dr. Jeff Liou, InterVarsity’s National Director of Theological Formation, joins Layla and Rob to reflect on his own journey with egalitarianism, and he offers a compelling picture of a theological formation process marked by humility, curiosity, deep community, and thoughtful encounters with difference.  

 
00:00 Introduction 

00:54 Guest Introduction: Jeff Liou's Background 

05:17 Discussion on Egalitarian Theological Formation 

15:18 Practical Advice for Egalitarian Leadership  

22:03 Final Thoughts and Resources 

 

Bio 

Dr. Jeff Ming Liou is the National Director of Theological Formation for InterVarsity Christian Fellowship/USA. He is also an affiliate assistant professor of Christian ethics at Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, CA, where he received his Ph.D. in Theology and Culture.  Jeff co-authored a book with Robert Chao Romero called Christianity and Critical Race Theory. Additionally, Liou has written papers on race and justice, Asian American Christianity, theological ethics, and political theology. Ordained in the Christian Reformed Church of North America, Liou has served as a campus minister, pastor, and university chaplain.  

 
Related Resources 

Jeff’s podcast.

Jeff’s book. 

Jeff references the four quadrant quiz he created, click here to take. The quiz will ask for your email, but promises to not use it to contact you.

 

8 Ways The Church Can Advance Egalitarian Theology 
Does Egalitarian Theology Have Anything To Say To People of Color? 

Becoming Egalitarian: Reconciling Experience with Scripture 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> What could it look like for leaders to help their people embrace and embody a robust egalitarian conviction? “Emerging egalitarian” Dr. Jeff Liou, InterVarsity’s National Director of Theological Formation, joins Layla and Rob to reflect on his own journey with egalitarianism, and he offers a compelling picture of a theological formation process marked by humility, curiosity, deep community, and thoughtful encounters with difference. CBE International false No 1573 133 full (Home, Church, and World) Beyond Headship Dysfunction: Best Practices in Co-Pastoring a Church with Michele and Mark Benson (Home, Church, and World) Beyond Headship Dysfunction: Best Practices in Co-Pastoring a Church with Michele and Mark Benson https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/beyond-headship-dysfunction/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/beyond-headship-dysfunction/#comments Thu, 13 Jun 2024 21:30:27 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/b8927709-9b6d-3788-9145-e767c1485ce8 In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosts Tara and Todd Korpi welcome Pastors Mark and Michelle Benson, co-lead pastors from Dothan Assembly in Alabama. Mark and Michelle share their journey of co-pastoring, highlighting the biblical call for gender equality in leadership. They discuss the challenges and growth experienced in their ministry, the importance of recognizing each other's strengths, and navigating environments resistant to female leadership. The episode emphasizes the significance of knowing one’s calling, maintaining humility, and fostering strong, supportive relationships in ministry. Listeners also gain insights on how co-leadership can positively influence church culture and leadership practices. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:24 Hosts' Banter and Jingle Discussion 

01:36 Introducing Special Guests: Mark and Michelle Benson 

03:37 Journey to Co-Pastoring 

08:58 Challenges and Triumphs in Ministry 

13:17 Navigating Co-Leadership 

31:33 Encouragement for Listeners 

33:50 Conclusion and Resources 

 

Bios  Pastors Mark and Michele have been lead pastors of Dothan First Assembly of God since 2016 after serving at The Rock Family Worship Center based out of Huntsville, Alabama for over ten years. Their passion is to make a difference in the lives of others by showing them the love of Jesus Christ. Pastors Mark and Michele have three children; Taylor, Griffin, and Camryn. 

  Related Resources 

Women and Men Leading Together: Co-Pastoring While Married  Women and Men Leading Together: “Exchanging a Muzzle for a Microphone” with Rici and Phil Skei  How to Find a Church that Empowers Women 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosts Tara and Todd Korpi welcome Pastors Mark and Michelle Benson, co-lead pastors from Dothan Assembly in Alabama. Mark and Michelle share their journey of co-pastoring, highlighting the biblical call for gender equality in leadership. They discuss the challenges and growth experienced in their ministry, the importance of recognizing each other's strengths, and navigating environments resistant to female leadership. The episode emphasizes the significance of knowing one’s calling, maintaining humility, and fostering strong, supportive relationships in ministry. Listeners also gain insights on how co-leadership can positively influence church culture and leadership practices. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:24 Hosts' Banter and Jingle Discussion 

01:36 Introducing Special Guests: Mark and Michelle Benson 

03:37 Journey to Co-Pastoring 

08:58 Challenges and Triumphs in Ministry 

13:17 Navigating Co-Leadership 

31:33 Encouragement for Listeners 

33:50 Conclusion and Resources 

 

Bios 
Pastors Mark and Michele have been lead pastors of Dothan First Assembly of God since 2016 after serving at The Rock Family Worship Center based out of Huntsville, Alabama for over ten years. Their passion is to make a difference in the lives of others by showing them the love of Jesus Christ. Pastors Mark and Michele have three children; Taylor, Griffin, and Camryn. 

 
Related Resources 

Women and Men Leading Together: Co-Pastoring While Married 
Women and Men Leading Together: “Exchanging a Muzzle for a Microphone” with Rici and Phil Skei 
How to Find a Church that Empowers Women 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosts Tara and Todd Korpi welcome Pastors Mark and Michelle Benson, co-lead pastors from Dothan Assembly in Alabama. Mark and Michelle share their journey of co-pastoring, highlighting the biblical call for gender equality in leadership. They discuss the challenges and growth experienced in their ministry, the importance of recognizing each other’s strengths, and navigating environments resistant to female leadership. CBE International false No 1918 132 full (Women and Words) Challenges and Joys in Bible Translation with Dr. Marlon Winedt (Women and Words) Challenges and Joys in Bible Translation with Dr. Marlon Winedt https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/challenges-joys-bible-translation-marlon-winedt/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/challenges-joys-bible-translation-marlon-winedt/#comments Thu, 06 Jun 2024 17:06:46 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/2aca90f2-b08d-3123-b8b3-6d2a1588607e In this episode of Mutuality Matters, host Mimi Haddad welcomes Dr. Marlon Winedt, a seasoned Bible translator, theologian, and philosopher. Dr. Winedt shares his vast experience in Bible translation, particularly his work with the Common Language Papiamintu Bible and assisting translation teams across the Caribbean and the Americas. He discusses the joys of translating the Bible into local languages, enhancing their prestige and accessibility. Dr. Winedt also delves into the complexities and cultural nuances involved in translation, the ethical responsibilities of translators, and how new translations can influence the understanding and application of biblical texts, especially regarding topics like women's roles and intercultural communication within the church and society. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:25 Meet Dr. Marlon Winedt 

01:54 The Joys of Bible Translation 

03:50 Challenges in Translation 

07:41 Cultural Misunderstandings 

10:53 Translation Choices and Their Impact 

15:59 Addressing Bias in Translations 

22:24 Ensuring Clarity and Overcoming Bias 

30:07 Rediscovering Women's Stories in History 

30:52 Exploring Bible Translations 

32:23 The Complexity of Translation 

37:03 Monolingualism vs. Multilingualism 

42:38 Translation and Gender Issues 

47:39 Insights on Women in Scripture 

52:27 Marriage and Family in Translation 

57:03 Conclusion    Bio 

Rev. Dr. Marlon Winedt, a theologian, philosopher, and Bible translator, earned his BA in Theology/Philosophy from the University of Steubenville, Ohio (magna cum laude 1985) and his Drs-MA in Philosophy (cum laude) from the University of Tilburg (1988). He completed post-graduate work in Bible translation and linguistics (1996, 2001), earning a PhD in Bible Translation (1999), all at the Free University of Amsterdam. Engaged in Bible translation for 35 years, he contributed to the Common Language Papiamentu Bible and serves as a Bible Translation Consultant for the United Bible Societies, mentoring teams across the Caribbean and the Americas. He also trains translation consultants worldwide. Marlon, a pastor, radio host, and columnist, contributes to academic and popular discourse in various languages, with his fields of interests being, among others, biblical languages, Greco-Roman world, Performance Criticism and Creolistics. He resides with his wife Sandra on Curaçao, engaging in diverse international teaching roles.    Related Resources  Women and Words: Exploring Women’s Biblical Equality Through Bible Translation with Dr. Roy Ciampa  Women and Words: Why Are There So Many Bible Translations? With Dr. Jeffrey Miller  eLearning: Beyond Bias: Aligning towards God’s Vision for Women and Men in Bible Translation 

  Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, host Mimi Haddad welcomes Dr. Marlon Winedt, a seasoned Bible translator, theologian, and philosopher. Dr. Winedt shares his vast experience in Bible translation, particularly his work with the Common Language Papiamintu Bible and assisting translation teams across the Caribbean and the Americas. He discusses the joys of translating the Bible into local languages, enhancing their prestige and accessibility. Dr. Winedt also delves into the complexities and cultural nuances involved in translation, the ethical responsibilities of translators, and how new translations can influence the understanding and application of biblical texts, especially regarding topics like women's roles and intercultural communication within the church and society. 

 

00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 

00:25 Meet Dr. Marlon Winedt 

01:54 The Joys of Bible Translation 

03:50 Challenges in Translation 

07:41 Cultural Misunderstandings 

10:53 Translation Choices and Their Impact 

15:59 Addressing Bias in Translations 

22:24 Ensuring Clarity and Overcoming Bias 

30:07 Rediscovering Women's Stories in History 

30:52 Exploring Bible Translations 

32:23 The Complexity of Translation 

37:03 Monolingualism vs. Multilingualism 

42:38 Translation and Gender Issues 

47:39 Insights on Women in Scripture 

52:27 Marriage and Family in Translation 

57:03 Conclusion 
 
Bio 

Rev. Dr. Marlon Winedt, a theologian, philosopher, and Bible translator, earned his BA in Theology/Philosophy from the University of Steubenville, Ohio (magna cum laude 1985) and his Drs-MA in Philosophy (cum laude) from the University of Tilburg (1988). He completed post-graduate work in Bible translation and linguistics (1996, 2001), earning a PhD in Bible Translation (1999), all at the Free University of Amsterdam. Engaged in Bible translation for 35 years, he contributed to the Common Language Papiamentu Bible and serves as a Bible Translation Consultant for the United Bible Societies, mentoring teams across the Caribbean and the Americas. He also trains translation consultants worldwide. Marlon, a pastor, radio host, and columnist, contributes to academic and popular discourse in various languages, with his fields of interests being, among others, biblical languages, Greco-Roman world, Performance Criticism and Creolistics. He resides with his wife Sandra on Curaçao, engaging in diverse international teaching roles. 
 
Related Resources 
Women and Words: Exploring Women’s Biblical Equality Through Bible Translation with Dr. Roy Ciampa 
Women and Words: Why Are There So Many Bible Translations? With Dr. Jeffrey Miller 
eLearning: Beyond Bias: Aligning towards God’s Vision for Women and Men in Bible Translation 

 
Disclaimer 
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, host Mimi Haddad welcomes Dr. Marlon Winedt, a seasoned Bible translator, theologian, and philosopher. Dr. Winedt shares his vast experience in Bible translation, particularly his work with the Common Language Papiamintu Bible and assisting translation teams across the Caribbean and the Americas. CBE International false No 3551 131 full (Home, Church, and World) What is Headship Theology? Part 2 with Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams (Home, Church, and World) What is Headship Theology? Part 2 with Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/what-is-headship-theology-part-2/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/what-is-headship-theology-part-2/#comments Thu, 16 May 2024 18:25:44 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/74868605-1b47-3d13-a6ea-bf3b3be3328a This second installment of a two-part episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. We’re joined by Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams, two biblical teachers who have written extensively on women and the church. In this episode, Andrew and Terran discuss the concept of the 'tiebreaker rule' in marriage and argue for a mutualist perspective that emphasizes equal partnership over hierarchy. They talk about Junia as an apostle in Romans 16:7 and dispel common misconceptions about Paul's views on women, underscoring his empowerment of women leaders in the early church. 

 

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters: Exploring Gender Equality in Leadership 

00:34 Debunking the Tiebreaker Rule in Marriage 

01:15 Mutualism in Practice: Real-Life Marriage Dynamics 

04:21 Scriptural Insights on Mutual Decision-Making 

05:05 Junia's Role and Women's Leadership in the Early Church 

11:14 Paul's Example: Empowering Women in Ministry 

14:32 Final Thoughts: Encouragement for Men and Women in Leadership 

19:26 Connecting with the Speakers and Further Resources 

20:59 Closing Remarks and Invitation to Support CBE International 

 

Bios 

Andrew Bartlett QC is based in London and is a highly rated international arbitrator with a wide range of experience in dispute resolution in numerous locations. He has a BA in Theology (University of Gloucestershire) and has served as an elder and a churchwarden in various churches. He is the author of Men and Women in Christ: Fresh Light From Biblical Texts. 

 

Terran Williams is a seasoned pastor, church planter, and Bible teacher to skeptics and believers alike. He authored Biblica’s Reach4Life youth Bible, with a print of three million copies in 30 languages, What’s so Amazing about Scripture, and How God Sees Women: The End of Patriarchy. 

  Related Resources 

How God Sees Women: The End of Patriarchy 

Men and Women in Christ: Fresh Light From Biblical Texts 

Andrew and Terran’s “Response to Mike Winger” 

Terranwilliams.com 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This second installment of a two-part episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. We’re joined by Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams, two biblical teachers who have written extensively on women and the church. In this episode, Andrew and Terran discuss the concept of the 'tiebreaker rule' in marriage and argue for a mutualist perspective that emphasizes equal partnership over hierarchy. They talk about Junia as an apostle in Romans 16:7 and dispel common misconceptions about Paul's views on women, underscoring his empowerment of women leaders in the early church. 

 

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters: Exploring Gender Equality in Leadership 

00:34 Debunking the Tiebreaker Rule in Marriage 

01:15 Mutualism in Practice: Real-Life Marriage Dynamics 

04:21 Scriptural Insights on Mutual Decision-Making 

05:05 Junia's Role and Women's Leadership in the Early Church 

11:14 Paul's Example: Empowering Women in Ministry 

14:32 Final Thoughts: Encouragement for Men and Women in Leadership 

19:26 Connecting with the Speakers and Further Resources 

20:59 Closing Remarks and Invitation to Support CBE International 

 

Bios 

Andrew Bartlett QC is based in London and is a highly rated international arbitrator with a wide range of experience in dispute resolution in numerous locations. He has a BA in Theology (University of Gloucestershire) and has served as an elder and a churchwarden in various churches. He is the author of Men and Women in Christ: Fresh Light From Biblical Texts. 

 

Terran Williams is a seasoned pastor, church planter, and Bible teacher to skeptics and believers alike. He authored Biblica’s Reach4Life youth Bible, with a print of three million copies in 30 languages, What’s so Amazing about Scripture, and How God Sees Women: The End of Patriarchy. 

 
Related Resources 

How God Sees Women: The End of Patriarchy 

Men and Women in Christ: Fresh Light From Biblical Texts 

Andrew and Terran’s “Response to Mike Winger” 

Terranwilliams.com 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This second installment of a two-part episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. We’re joined by Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams, two biblical teachers who have written extensively on women and the church. In this episode, Andrew and Terran discuss the concept of the ’tiebreaker rule’ in marriage and argue for a mutualist perspective that emphasizes equal partnership over hierarchy. They talk about Junia as an apostle in Romans 16:7 and dispel common misconceptions about Paul’s views on women, underscoring his empowerment of women leaders in the early church. CBE International false No 1296 130 full (Women and Words) Marriage in the Greco-Roman World in Translation with Dr. Roy Ciampa (Women and Words) Marriage in the Greco-Roman World in Translation with Dr. Roy Ciampa https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-marriage-in-the-greco-roman-world-in-translation-with-dr-roy-ciampa/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-marriage-in-the-greco-roman-world-in-translation-with-dr-roy-ciampa/#comments Thu, 02 May 2024 16:42:18 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/28cfea6f-399b-3b2b-b888-4feb2794b070 In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, Dr. Roy Ciampa discusses the significance of Bible translation and its impact on women worldwide. As a seasoned Bible translator and professor, Dr. Ciampa highlights how translations can shape perceptions of gender roles, stressing the importance of considering cultural contexts to avoid perpetuating patriarchal interpretations. He delves into the challenges of domesticating and foreignizing translations, the misinterpretation of biblical texts regarding women, and how translations might better honor women's roles in biblical texts and today’s context. The episode also explores the influence of English Bible translations globally, particularly concerning women's leadership and addressing abuse. Dr. Ciampa expresses his hope for future translations to more fully recognize women's worth and contributions, in alignment with an egalitarian view of scripture that sees men and women as equal in authority and leadership in all spheres of life.   

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters 

00:31 Introducing Dr. Roy Ciampa: A Scholar's Journey 

04:17 The Impact of Bible Translation on Gender and Race 

08:24 Exploring the Greco-Roman Context of Biblical Texts 

15:35 The Challenge of Domesticating and Foreignizing Translations 

20:56 Elevating Women's Stories in Scripture and History 

33:31 Dreams for Future Bible Translations and Women's Roles 

35:08 Closing Thoughts and Resources 

 

Bio  Dr. Ciampa has authored numerous scholarly essays on NT themes, especially on the interpretation of the Old Testament within the New Testament, but also on issues more directly related to Bible translation (including articles that address translation issues in Acts 17:11 and 1 Corinthians 7:1 that became footnotes in the CSB. He is also that author of a book on The Presence and Function of Scripture in Gal 1 and 2, and co-author with Brian Rosner of the Pillar Commentary on 1 Corinthians. Roy is an ordained minister.     Related Resources  Women and Words: Exploring Women’s Biblical Equality Through Bible Translation with Dr. Roy Ciampa  How the New Testament Turned Marriage in the Ancient World on Its “Head”  A Religion of “Women and Children”? A Christian Woman’s Place in the Greco-Roman World Before AD 300   

Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, Dr. Roy Ciampa discusses the significance of Bible translation and its impact on women worldwide. As a seasoned Bible translator and professor, Dr. Ciampa highlights how translations can shape perceptions of gender roles, stressing the importance of considering cultural contexts to avoid perpetuating patriarchal interpretations. He delves into the challenges of domesticating and foreignizing translations, the misinterpretation of biblical texts regarding women, and how translations might better honor women's roles in biblical texts and today’s context. The episode also explores the influence of English Bible translations globally, particularly concerning women's leadership and addressing abuse. Dr. Ciampa expresses his hope for future translations to more fully recognize women's worth and contributions, in alignment with an egalitarian view of scripture that sees men and women as equal in authority and leadership in all spheres of life. 
 

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters 

00:31 Introducing Dr. Roy Ciampa: A Scholar's Journey 

04:17 The Impact of Bible Translation on Gender and Race 

08:24 Exploring the Greco-Roman Context of Biblical Texts 

15:35 The Challenge of Domesticating and Foreignizing Translations 

20:56 Elevating Women's Stories in Scripture and History 

33:31 Dreams for Future Bible Translations and Women's Roles 

35:08 Closing Thoughts and Resources 

 

Bio 
Dr. Ciampa has authored numerous scholarly essays on NT themes, especially on the interpretation of the Old Testament within the New Testament, but also on issues more directly related to Bible translation (including articles that address translation issues in Acts 17:11 and 1 Corinthians 7:1 that became footnotes in the CSB. He is also that author of a book on The Presence and Function of Scripture in Gal 1 and 2, and co-author with Brian Rosner of the Pillar Commentary on 1 Corinthians. Roy is an ordained minister.  
 
Related Resources 
Women and Words: Exploring Women’s Biblical Equality Through Bible Translation with Dr. Roy Ciampa 
How the New Testament Turned Marriage in the Ancient World on Its “Head” 
A Religion of “Women and Children”? A Christian Woman’s Place in the Greco-Roman World Before AD 300 
 

Disclaimer 
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 2278 129 full (Home, Church, and World) What is Headship Theology? Part 1 with Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams (Home, Church, and World) What is Headship Theology? Part 1 with Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-what-is-headship-theology-with-andrew-bartlett-and-terran-williams/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/home-church-and-world-what-is-headship-theology-with-andrew-bartlett-and-terran-williams/#comments Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:47:27 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/23307492-d5d0-3c6d-b3ce-a9f2ee2216a3 This two-part episode is the first in a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and women and men, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society as a whole. We’re joined by Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams, two biblical teachers who have written extensively on women and the church. They provide exceptional insight in this interview, allowing us to establish a strong foundation for understanding what headship theology is and how to think biblically about it. 

 

Bios

Andrew Bartlett KC is based in London and is a highly rated international arbitrator with a wide range of experience in dispute resolution in numerous locations. He has a BA in Theology (University of Gloucestershire) and has served as an elder and a churchwarden in various churches. He is the author of Men and Women in Christ: Fresh Light From Biblical Texts. 

 

Terran Williams is a seasoned pastor, church planter, and Bible teacher to skeptics and believers alike. He authored Biblica’s Reach4Life youth Bible, with a print of three million copies in 30 languages, What’s so Amazing about Scripture, and How God Sees Women: The End of Patriarchy. 

  Related Resource

How God Sees Women: The End of Patriarchy 

Men and Women in Christ: Fresh Light From Biblical Texts 

Andrew and Terran’s “Response to Mike Winger” 

Terranwilliams.com 

 

Disclaimer

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This two-part episode is the first in a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and women and men, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society as a whole. We’re joined by Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams, two biblical teachers who have written extensively on women and the church. They provide exceptional insight in this interview, allowing us to establish a strong foundation for understanding what headship theology is and how to think biblically about it. 

 

Bios

Andrew Bartlett KC is based in London and is a highly rated international arbitrator with a wide range of experience in dispute resolution in numerous locations. He has a BA in Theology (University of Gloucestershire) and has served as an elder and a churchwarden in various churches. He is the author of Men and Women in Christ: Fresh Light From Biblical Texts. 

 

Terran Williams is a seasoned pastor, church planter, and Bible teacher to skeptics and believers alike. He authored Biblica’s Reach4Life youth Bible, with a print of three million copies in 30 languages, What’s so Amazing about Scripture, and How God Sees Women: The End of Patriarchy. 

 
Related Resource

How God Sees Women: The End of Patriarchy 

Men and Women in Christ: Fresh Light From Biblical Texts 

Andrew and Terran’s “Response to Mike Winger” 

Terranwilliams.com 

 

Disclaimer

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This two-part episode is the first in a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. CBE International false No 1814 128 full (Women and Men Leading Together) What’s Next? Answering Your Questions with Layla and Rob (Women and Men Leading Together) What’s Next? Answering Your Questions with Layla and Rob https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-men-whats-next/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-men-whats-next/#comments Thu, 11 Apr 2024 16:59:45 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/0e90581c-7f6e-33a7-b5ed-db5d7f4c68bd This episode begins with news! Layla and Rob’s podcast thread is changing, from a solitary focus on how mixed-gender ministry partnerships work in the field to a wider discussion about how egalitarians can practically engage not just interpersonal dynamics, but systems, theology, culture, and more. And the best guests to talk about this shift? Layla and Rob! Join the hosts as they answer listener-generated questions about podcasting as a medium, what they’ve learned along the way, their own history as partners, and what their hopes are for the church going forward.  

 

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters: Embracing Egalitarian Convictions 

00:46 Shifting Focus: Broadening the Conversation Beyond Ministry Partnerships 

01:56 Celebrating Our Journey: A Self-Interview on Mixed Gender Partnerships 

05:24 Listener Q&A: Insights and Anecdotes from Behind the Scenes 

09:06 Challenges and Opportunities: Learning from Our Podcasting Experience 

20:51 Reflecting on Partnership: Our Personal Journey and Future Hopes 

28:46 Gratitude and Goodbyes: Wrapping Up the Podcast Thread 

 

Bios: 

 

Layla Van Gerpen has served with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship for over twenty years in California and Nevada. She also serves on the preaching team at her church, Midtown Vineyard. She is passionate about developing leaders, especially around areas of race and gender. As a Lebanese/Japanese daughter of immigrants, Layla grew up with a deep love for hospitality, cross-cultural relationships, and advocacy work. Together with her husband, Daniel, they find joy raising their two boys, Everett and Grant. 

 

Rob Dixon lives in central California with his wife Amy and their four children, and works as a campus minister with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. He earned a Doctor of Intercultural Studies degree at Fuller Theological Seminary, where he focused on discerning the attributes of flourishing mixed-gender ministry partnerships. Rob is the author of Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships. In his free time, Rob roots for the Dodgers, teaches at Fresno Pacific University, and plays as much pickleball as possible. Find him online at drrobdixon.com.    Related Resources:   

Women and Men Leading Together: The Value of Shared Partnerships from a Gen. Z Perspective with Tim Bushra    Women and Men Leading Together: “Call Her What She Is” with Maddie Cummings and Brooke Pland   

Women and Men Leading Together: The Journey to Mutuality with Kim and Andrew Feil 

 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode begins with news! Layla and Rob’s podcast thread is changing, from a solitary focus on how mixed-gender ministry partnerships work in the field to a wider discussion about how egalitarians can practically engage not just interpersonal dynamics, but systems, theology, culture, and more. And the best guests to talk about this shift? Layla and Rob! Join the hosts as they answer listener-generated questions about podcasting as a medium, what they’ve learned along the way, their own history as partners, and what their hopes are for the church going forward.  

 

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters: Embracing Egalitarian Convictions 

00:46 Shifting Focus: Broadening the Conversation Beyond Ministry Partnerships 

01:56 Celebrating Our Journey: A Self-Interview on Mixed Gender Partnerships 

05:24 Listener Q&A: Insights and Anecdotes from Behind the Scenes 

09:06 Challenges and Opportunities: Learning from Our Podcasting Experience 

20:51 Reflecting on Partnership: Our Personal Journey and Future Hopes 

28:46 Gratitude and Goodbyes: Wrapping Up the Podcast Thread 

 

Bios: 

 

Layla Van Gerpen has served with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship for over twenty years in California and Nevada. She also serves on the preaching team at her church, Midtown Vineyard. She is passionate about developing leaders, especially around areas of race and gender. As a Lebanese/Japanese daughter of immigrants, Layla grew up with a deep love for hospitality, cross-cultural relationships, and advocacy work. Together with her husband, Daniel, they find joy raising their two boys, Everett and Grant. 

 

Rob Dixon lives in central California with his wife Amy and their four children, and works as a campus minister with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. He earned a Doctor of Intercultural Studies degree at Fuller Theological Seminary, where he focused on discerning the attributes of flourishing mixed-gender ministry partnerships. Rob is the author of Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships. In his free time, Rob roots for the Dodgers, teaches at Fresno Pacific University, and plays as much pickleball as possible. Find him online at drrobdixon.com. 
 
Related Resources: 
 

Women and Men Leading Together: The Value of Shared Partnerships from a Gen. Z Perspective with Tim Bushra 
 
Women and Men Leading Together: “Call Her What She Is” with Maddie Cummings and Brooke Pland 
 

Women and Men Leading Together: The Journey to Mutuality with Kim and Andrew Feil 

 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode begins with news! Layla and Rob’s podcast thread is changing, from a solitary focus on how mixed-gender ministry partnerships work in the field to a wider discussion about how egalitarians can practically engage not just interpersonal dynamics, but systems, theology, culture, and more. CBE International false No 1824 127 full (Women and Words) Exploring Women’s Biblical Equality Through Bible Translation with Dr. Roy Ciampa (Women and Words) Exploring Women’s Biblical Equality Through Bible Translation with Dr. Roy Ciampa https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-exploring-women-s-biblical-equality-through-bible-translation-with-dr-roy-ciampa/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-exploring-women-s-biblical-equality-through-bible-translation-with-dr-roy-ciampa/#comments Thu, 04 Apr 2024 17:23:06 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/1edcc3c7-c389-3d39-8d44-04898f2636bc This episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by CBE International, features Dr. Roy Ciampa, the S. Lewis and N. W. Armstrong Professor of Religion at Samford University in Birmingham, Alabama. Dr. Ciampa discusses the significance of Bible translation in promoting women’s biblical equality, his background as a missionary, professor, and Bible translator, and the process translation teams undergo to resolve translation challenges. Highlights include the impact of Western translations like the NIV and ESV on global Bible translation, specific New Testament passages supporting women's shared leadership, and common translation issues facing the church today. Dr. Ciampa also addresses translation choices related to female and male relationships in Scripture. The episode emphasizes CBE's mission of advocating for equal authority and leadership of women and men in the home, church, and world through biblical scholarship and translation. 

  

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters 

00:31 Introducing Dr. Roy Ciampa: A Renowned Bible Translator 

00:54 Dr. Ciampa's Journey in Bible Translation and Scholarship 

04:36 The Conservative Nature of Bible Translation 

06:46 The Influence of Western Translations on Global Bible Translation Efforts 

19:52 Navigating Translation Challenges: From Legal Issues to Cultural Contexts 

23:55 Addressing Translation Issues Affecting Women in Scripture 

29:41 Exploring Key New Testament Passages on Women's Leadership 

41:51 Supporting CBE International and Mutuality Matters 

 

Guest Bio 

Dr. Ciampa has authored numerous scholarly essays on NT themes, especially on the interpretation of the Old Testament within the New Testament, but also on issues more directly related to Bible translation (including articles that address translation issues in Acts 17:11 and 1 Corinthians 7:1 that became footnotes in the CSB. He is also that author of a book on The Presence and Function of Scripture in Gal 1 and 2, and co-author with Brian Rosner of the Pillar Commentary on 1 Corinthians. Roy is an ordained minister. 

 

Related Resources 

CBE’s eLearning Course: Beyond Bias: Aligning towards God’s Vision for Women and Men in Bible Translation 

CBE’s Bible Translation Project: Creating Gender-Accurate Bible Translations 

Correcting Caricatures: Women and Bible Translation 

 

Disclaimer   The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> This episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by CBE International, features Dr. Roy Ciampa, the S. Lewis and N. W. Armstrong Professor of Religion at Samford University in Birmingham, Alabama. Dr. Ciampa discusses the significance of Bible translation in promoting women’s biblical equality, his background as a missionary, professor, and Bible translator, and the process translation teams undergo to resolve translation challenges. Highlights include the impact of Western translations like the NIV and ESV on global Bible translation, specific New Testament passages supporting women's shared leadership, and common translation issues facing the church today. Dr. Ciampa also addresses translation choices related to female and male relationships in Scripture. The episode emphasizes CBE's mission of advocating for equal authority and leadership of women and men in the home, church, and world through biblical scholarship and translation. 

  

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters 

00:31 Introducing Dr. Roy Ciampa: A Renowned Bible Translator 

00:54 Dr. Ciampa's Journey in Bible Translation and Scholarship 

04:36 The Conservative Nature of Bible Translation 

06:46 The Influence of Western Translations on Global Bible Translation Efforts 

19:52 Navigating Translation Challenges: From Legal Issues to Cultural Contexts 

23:55 Addressing Translation Issues Affecting Women in Scripture 

29:41 Exploring Key New Testament Passages on Women's Leadership 

41:51 Supporting CBE International and Mutuality Matters 

 

Guest Bio 

Dr. Ciampa has authored numerous scholarly essays on NT themes, especially on the interpretation of the Old Testament within the New Testament, but also on issues more directly related to Bible translation (including articles that address translation issues in Acts 17:11 and 1 Corinthians 7:1 that became footnotes in the CSB. He is also that author of a book on The Presence and Function of Scripture in Gal 1 and 2, and co-author with Brian Rosner of the Pillar Commentary on 1 Corinthians. Roy is an ordained minister. 

 

Related Resources 

CBE’s eLearning Course: Beyond Bias: Aligning towards God’s Vision for Women and Men in Bible Translation 

CBE’s Bible Translation Project: Creating Gender-Accurate Bible Translations 

Correcting Caricatures: Women and Bible Translation 

 

Disclaimer  
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 2570 126 full (Intersectionality) Telling Her Story through Allyship and Agency with Rev. Dwayne Jackson (Intersectionality) Telling Her Story through Allyship and Agency with Rev. Dwayne Jackson https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-telling-her-story-through-allyship-and-agency-with-rev-dwayne-jackson/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-telling-her-story-through-allyship-and-agency-with-rev-dwayne-jackson/#comments Sat, 30 Mar 2024 09:46:53 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/ffa188ad-b580-3b54-adde-f6a374600022 Sit down this week with hosts Angela and Liz as they chat with Rev. Dwayne Jackson. Rev. Jackson shares his expertise about working with the Reformed Church of America and how the stories from his fellow sisters in ministry catapulted his everyday practice of mutuality. He also describes his love for those at the margins and his pastoral position as he pastors alongside his wife as equals. Tune in and hear not only his story but HER story as well! 

 

 

Guest Bio 

Born and raised as a son of the Mott Haven Reformed Church Dwayne Jackson served in the role of deacon then as an elder where he worked with the finance committee, youth ministry, Sunday school, Christian education, choir, and men’s ministry. His educational accomplishments include a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering from New York Institute of Technology with a Minor in Computer Science, and a Master of Divinity from New Brunswick Theological Seminary. Dwayne was invited to serve as a Student Pastor of the First Reformed Church of Astoria, following his ordination in January of 2000 he accepted the call to continue as their Minister of Word and Sacrament where he remained until June of 2017.  

 

In the community of Astoria and Long Island City, Queens Rev. Jackson served as the Clergy Liaison for the local police command. His work involves mediation between members of the community and helping them to build a peaceful relationship that will benefit both the local citizens and the patrol officers, where mutual respect is fostered.  He provided spiritual guidance and assistance for the members of the Astoria Senior Citizen’s Center and mentoring for young children, teens and young adults at the community center. 

 

Rev. Jackson has been a part of the African American / Black Council in a number of capacities.  He served the RCA as the Coordinator of Social Witness and Social Justice and served on the RCA Commission for Women.  In 2021 Rev. Jackson was elected into the position of VP of the General Synod of the Reformed Church in America and concluded his service as President from 2022 to 2023  

 

Serving as Co-Pastor of the Second Reformed Church of Hackensack along with the Rev. Anna M. Jackson, Rev. Dwayne Jackson has promised to dedicate his life to preaching and teaching the un-compromised Word of God to all the people of God and making Disciples for Christ.    Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> Sit down this week with hosts Angela and Liz as they chat with Rev. Dwayne Jackson. Rev. Jackson shares his expertise about working with the Reformed Church of America and how the stories from his fellow sisters in ministry catapulted his everyday practice of mutuality. He also describes his love for those at the margins and his pastoral position as he pastors alongside his wife as equals. Tune in and hear not only his story but HER story as well! 

 

 

Guest Bio 

Born and raised as a son of the Mott Haven Reformed Church Dwayne Jackson served in the role of deacon then as an elder where he worked with the finance committee, youth ministry, Sunday school, Christian education, choir, and men’s ministry. His educational accomplishments include a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering from New York Institute of Technology with a Minor in Computer Science, and a Master of Divinity from New Brunswick Theological Seminary. Dwayne was invited to serve as a Student Pastor of the First Reformed Church of Astoria, following his ordination in January of 2000 he accepted the call to continue as their Minister of Word and Sacrament where he remained until June of 2017.  

 

In the community of Astoria and Long Island City, Queens Rev. Jackson served as the Clergy Liaison for the local police command. His work involves mediation between members of the community and helping them to build a peaceful relationship that will benefit both the local citizens and the patrol officers, where mutual respect is fostered.  He provided spiritual guidance and assistance for the members of the Astoria Senior Citizen’s Center and mentoring for young children, teens and young adults at the community center. 

 

Rev. Jackson has been a part of the African American / Black Council in a number of capacities.  He served the RCA as the Coordinator of Social Witness and Social Justice and served on the RCA Commission for Women.  In 2021 Rev. Jackson was elected into the position of VP of the General Synod of the Reformed Church in America and concluded his service as President from 2022 to 2023  

 

Serving as Co-Pastor of the Second Reformed Church of Hackensack along with the Rev. Anna M. Jackson, Rev. Dwayne Jackson has promised to dedicate his life to preaching and teaching the un-compromised Word of God to all the people of God and making Disciples for Christ. 
 
Disclaimer 
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 2620 125 full (Women in Scripture and History) Esther, Mutuality, and the Gospel with Dr. Karen H. Jobes (Women in Scripture and History) Esther, Mutuality, and the Gospel with Dr. Karen H. Jobes https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-history-esther-mutuality-and-the-gospel-with-dr-karen-h-jobes/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-in-scripture-and-history-esther-mutuality-and-the-gospel-with-dr-karen-h-jobes/#comments Fri, 22 Mar 2024 06:00:00 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/2e31606a-6d41-35c2-a60f-2e3b413f70a3 In this episode, Kim Dickson and Amber Burgess interview Dr. Karen H. Jobes about Esther. As a lifetime teaching professor, Dr. Jobes skillfully explains the academic complexities of Esther in a way that brings her listeners along to understand the significance of Esther’s story in the broader canon. She describes how Mordechai’s challenge to Esther that she is in her position “for such a time as this,” causes Esther to come into her own, fulfilling who God had created her to be. Dr. Jobes demonstrates how Mordechai and Esther work in mutuality, both submitting in obedience to one another’s authority. She completes the interview highlighting how the text of Esther demonstrates the scriptural redemptive pattern of bringing life from death. 

  

Bio  

Karen H. Jobes is the Gerald F. Hawthorne Professor Emerita of New Testament Greek and Exegesis at Wheaton College and Graduate School (Illinois).  She earned her doctorate in Biblical Hermeneutics at Westminster Theological Seminary (Philadelphia, 1995) and has served as a tenured professor at Westmont College (Santa Barbara, CA, 1996–2005) and at Wheaton (2005–2015). She was a translator on the NIV Committee for Bible Translation for many years and is the author of several books and many journal articles. Her research specialty has been the Septuagint as a literary and exegetical background for New Testament interpretation. Jobes is a member of Oreland Evangelical Presbyterian Church and serves as an elder on Session there.     

Other Resources 

 

Contact Dr. Karen Jobes at karen.jobes@wheaton.edu 

Books Referenced in Interview: 

Karen H. Jobes, Esther: The NIV Application Commentary from Biblical text . . . to contemporary life. 

Karen H. Jobes, The Alpha-Text of Esther: In Character and Relationship to the Masoretic Text, SBL Dissertation Series 153. 

Michael V. Fox, Character & Ideology in the Book of Esther: Second Edition with a New Postscript on a Decade of Esther Scholarship. 

 

Summary of Karen Jobes as the first woman Evangelical Theological Society (ETS) woman president in: Making Room for Women: 2023 ETS Annual Meeting Recap by Kimberly Dickson 

 

More CBE Resources on Esther 

Women in Scripture and Mission: Esther  

More Than a Pretty Face 

More Than a Beautiful Body: Star Wars, Beauty Standards, and the Imago Dei  Power Brokers: Vashti, Mordecai, and Esther  Women Leaders Navigate the Patriarchal Systems of Family and Church: Young Lee Hertig  Esther: When God Calls for Disobedience  Character Counts  Calling all Deborah’s, Esther’s and Junias 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

]]> In this episode, Kim Dickson and Amber Burgess interview Dr. Karen H. Jobes about Esther. As a lifetime teaching professor, Dr. Jobes skillfully explains the academic complexities of Esther in a way that brings her listeners along to understand the significance of Esther’s story in the broader canon. She describes how Mordechai’s challenge to Esther that she is in her position “for such a time as this,” causes Esther to come into her own, fulfilling who God had created her to be. Dr. Jobes demonstrates how Mordechai and Esther work in mutuality, both submitting in obedience to one another’s authority. She completes the interview highlighting how the text of Esther demonstrates the scriptural redemptive pattern of bringing life from death. 

  

Bio  

Karen H. Jobes is the Gerald F. Hawthorne Professor Emerita of New Testament Greek and Exegesis at Wheaton College and Graduate School (Illinois).  She earned her doctorate in Biblical Hermeneutics at Westminster Theological Seminary (Philadelphia, 1995) and has served as a tenured professor at Westmont College (Santa Barbara, CA, 1996–2005) and at Wheaton (2005–2015). She was a translator on the NIV Committee for Bible Translation for many years and is the author of several books and many journal articles. Her research specialty has been the Septuagint as a literary and exegetical background for New Testament interpretation. Jobes is a member of Oreland Evangelical Presbyterian Church and serves as an elder on Session there. 
 
 

Other Resources 

 

Contact Dr. Karen Jobes at karen.jobes@wheaton.edu 

Books Referenced in Interview: 

Karen H. Jobes, Esther: The NIV Application Commentary from Biblical text . . . to contemporary life. 

Karen H. Jobes, The Alpha-Text of Esther: In Character and Relationship to the Masoretic Text, SBL Dissertation Series 153. 

Michael V. Fox, Character & Ideology in the Book of Esther: Second Edition with a New Postscript on a Decade of Esther Scholarship. 

 

Summary of Karen Jobes as the first woman Evangelical Theological Society (ETS) woman president in: Making Room for Women: 2023 ETS Annual Meeting Recap by Kimberly Dickson 

 

More CBE Resources on Esther 

Women in Scripture and Mission: Esther  

More Than a Pretty Face 

More Than a Beautiful Body: Star Wars, Beauty Standards, and the Imago Dei 
Power Brokers: Vashti, Mordecai, and Esther 
Women Leaders Navigate the Patriarchal Systems of Family and Church: Young Lee Hertig 
Esther: When God Calls for Disobedience 
Character Counts 
Calling all Deborah’s, Esther’s and Junias 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

]]> CBE International false No 2686 124 full (Women and Words) Translation Bias and How to Read the Bible Well with Dr. Roy Ciampa (Women and Words) Translation Bias and How to Read the Bible Well with Dr. Roy Ciampa https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-translation-bias-and-how-to-read-the-bible-well-with-dr-roy-ciampa/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-translation-bias-and-how-to-read-the-bible-well-with-dr-roy-ciampa/#comments Fri, 08 Mar 2024 09:38:19 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/bcbf71c4-555f-3a2b-9682-0e17675e1e93 Dr. Ciampa explores the complexity of Bible translation, through his experiences both as a translator and professor of Bible translation, working beside translation teams worldwide. He considers both challenges and opportunities facing translation teams given the limited resources of translators in the majority world in contrast to the wealth of the minority world and its capacity, therefore, to influence translation teams worldwide as they depend on translations produced by the majority world and those widely available to teams/communities without a translation in their mother tongue. Small translation teams depend on larger, well-funded teams in the West and hence their influence worldwide. Bible translations can be (and are) commissioned by individuals who share a particular theological view of male-authority, e.g. the ESV. Other teams rely on consultants who provide an additional layer of oversight and diversity.     As women are now receiving the same education as men, women are joining Bible translation teams and serve as consultants more and more, especially in the majority world. Roy observes that minimizing translation bias was the result not only of diverse translation teams but also accessibility to a variety of translations in one’s mother tongue. Roy also points out “reading” the Bible well plays a critical role in grasping the full thrust of Scripture as a primary means of guarding against translator bias.     Finally, Roy explores how one language, e.g. Portuguese is spoken very differently in various regions around the world. He considers the importance of including more paratextual information explaining the background and significance of many of the passages that have impacted women or that could more positively impact women should be a priority. Increasing the number and roles of women in the translation work would help not only in helping teams pay closer attention to these issues, but also in helping the teams understand how the translation or interpretation of these passages impacts the lived experience of their mothers, sisters, daughters, and other women today, leading to a greater prioritization of this issue.   

Guest Bio:   Dr. Roy Ciampa: is the S. Louis and Ann W. Armstrong Professor of Religion and Chair of the Religion Department at Samford University. Roy served the Nida Institute for Biblical for the American Bible Society providing advanced professional development in biblical studies, Bible translation and Scripture engagement to leaders in that area of scholarship worldwide. He also served as Professor of New Testament and chaired the Division of Biblical Studies at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary where he continues to provide leadership for their Doctor of Ministry track in Bible Translation. Before that, Roy was a missionary professor of biblical studies in Portugal and served as a translator for the Portuguese Bible Society’s contemporary Portuguese translation of Scripture.  

 

Dr. Ciampa has authored numerous scholarly essays on NT themes, especially on the interpretation of the Old Testament within the New Testament, but also on issues more directly related to Bible translation (including articles that address translation issues in Acts 17:11 and 1 Corinthians 7:1 that became footnotes in the CSB. He is also that author of a book on The Presence and Function of Scripture in Gal 1 and 2, and co-author with Brian Rosner of the Pillar Commentary on 1 Corinthians. Roy is an ordained minister. 

  Related Resources:   eLearning: Beyond Bias: Aligning Toward God’s Vision for Women and Men in Bible Translation  Why We Need to Correct for Patriarchal Bias in Bible Translations 

Presumption and Bias in Bible Translation   

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> Dr. Ciampa explores the complexity of Bible translation, through his experiences both as a translator and professor of Bible translation, working beside translation teams worldwide. He considers both challenges and opportunities facing translation teams given the limited resources of translators in the majority world in contrast to the wealth of the minority world and its capacity, therefore, to influence translation teams worldwide as they depend on translations produced by the majority world and those widely available to teams/communities without a translation in their mother tongue. Small translation teams depend on larger, well-funded teams in the West and hence their influence worldwide. Bible translations can be (and are) commissioned by individuals who share a particular theological view of male-authority, e.g. the ESV. Other teams rely on consultants who provide an additional layer of oversight and diversity.  
 
As women are now receiving the same education as men, women are joining Bible translation teams and serve as consultants more and more, especially in the majority world. Roy observes that minimizing translation bias was the result not only of diverse translation teams but also accessibility to a variety of translations in one’s mother tongue. Roy also points out “reading” the Bible well plays a critical role in grasping the full thrust of Scripture as a primary means of guarding against translator bias.  
 
Finally, Roy explores how one language, e.g. Portuguese is spoken very differently in various regions around the world. He considers the importance of including more paratextual information explaining the background and significance of many of the passages that have impacted women or that could more positively impact women should be a priority. Increasing the number and roles of women in the translation work would help not only in helping teams pay closer attention to these issues, but also in helping the teams understand how the translation or interpretation of these passages impacts the lived experience of their mothers, sisters, daughters, and other women today, leading to a greater prioritization of this issue. 
 

Guest Bio:  
Dr. Roy Ciampa: is the S. Louis and Ann W. Armstrong Professor of Religion and Chair of the Religion Department at Samford University. Roy served the Nida Institute for Biblical for the American Bible Society providing advanced professional development in biblical studies, Bible translation and Scripture engagement to leaders in that area of scholarship worldwide. He also served as Professor of New Testament and chaired the Division of Biblical Studies at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary where he continues to provide leadership for their Doctor of Ministry track in Bible Translation. Before that, Roy was a missionary professor of biblical studies in Portugal and served as a translator for the Portuguese Bible Society’s contemporary Portuguese translation of Scripture.  

 

Dr. Ciampa has authored numerous scholarly essays on NT themes, especially on the interpretation of the Old Testament within the New Testament, but also on issues more directly related to Bible translation (including articles that address translation issues in Acts 17:11 and 1 Corinthians 7:1 that became footnotes in the CSB. He is also that author of a book on The Presence and Function of Scripture in Gal 1 and 2, and co-author with Brian Rosner of the Pillar Commentary on 1 Corinthians. Roy is an ordained minister. 

 
Related Resources:  
eLearning: Beyond Bias: Aligning Toward God’s Vision for Women and Men in Bible Translation 
Why We Need to Correct for Patriarchal Bias in Bible Translations 

Presumption and Bias in Bible Translation 
 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 2382 123 full (Intersectionality) Where Do We Begin? Finding Our Place in God’s Plan (Intersectionality) Where Do We Begin? Finding Our Place in God’s Plan https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-where-do-we-begin-finding-our-place-in-god-s-plan/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-where-do-we-begin-finding-our-place-in-god-s-plan/#comments Fri, 23 Feb 2024 12:37:20 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/c0026e56-ec38-3038-bd34-178a9c6f2582 Listeners are in for a treat as veteran host, Dr. Angela is interviewed by new co-host, Rev. Liz Testa. As Liz got to know Angela and listened to past episodes, she realized the wealth of insight sitting behind the mic that people needed to hear about. You don’t want to miss hearing Angela share how she got involved with CBE (hint, it connects with her doctoral work), what led to the creation of this podcast, and highlights of her most intriguing learnings from her guests along the way. Most importantly, hearing Angela’s vision of intersectionality as part of God’s reconciling work in the world is a true inspiration. You will leave this episode with fresh ideas for creating healthy, compassionate spaces of inclusion and equity in your context... and most likely a desire to go back and relisten to a previous episode or two! 

 

Learn more about Dr. Angela's Streams in the Wasteland mentioned in the podcast at https://www.streamsinthewasteland.org/.     Bios    Rev. Dr. Angela Ravin-Anderson, a native Texan, is an ordained minister with a true passion for seeing the people of God become an authentic expression of God’s love in the world.  Dr. Ravin-Anderson created the Streams in the Wasteland Leadership Institute, a training program to equip and prepare transformational Christian leaders, especially women, based on their unique personalities, passions, and spiritual gifts to minister to the marginalized. She is also a facilitator for Project C.U.R.A.T.E., a faith-based initiative to bring about racial reconciliation and social justice reform within the Christian community. Dr. Ravin-Anderson is an adjunct professor at Abilene Christian University within the Bible Department teaching courses in Old and New Testament Studies, Christian Leadership, and Spiritual Formation. At Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church where she serves as part of the clergy team, she gives leadership to the Social Justice ministry and develops curriculum for adult Christian education and discipleship training programs. She holds a BA in Behavioral Science from Rice University, an MBA and MHA from the University of Houston-Clearlake, received her Master of Divinity degree, Summa Cum Laude from Houston Graduate School of Theology, and her Doctor of Ministry in the area of Pastoral and Missional Church Leadership from the same seminary. 

Rev. Elizabeth (Liz) Testa, raised bi-culturally in New York and Spain, is a pastor, speaker, creative visionary, and community builder who is passionate about encouraging people to embrace their gifts and usher in a vision of God’s reign as women and men of all backgrounds serve together, freely and fully. She currently serves the Reformed Church in America as the ministry executive for Women’s Transformation and Leadership and Equity-Based Hospitality.  In this capacity, she helps the RCA pursue a vision for the full inclusion of women’s gifts, influence, and leadership in all areas of the church and equips faith communities to develop equitable, hospitable practices that build and strengthen the body of Christ for mission in the world. Liz is the founder and host of the Lavish Hope: Stories of Resilience and Overcoming, a podcast that engages fresh perspectives from women and people of color. Rev. Testa holds a BFA (magna cum laude) from Syracuse University, and an MDiv from the Drew Theological School, where she was the John Heston Willey awardee for excellence in Pulpit Oratory and Manner. Her first career was as a professional actress and spokesperson, and she delights at how God uses those experiences to enhance her calling in ministry. Rev. Testa is currently a doctoral student in transformational preaching at New Brunswick Theological Seminary, NJ.   

Learn more about Dr. Ravin-Anderson and Rev. Testa’s passions and projects: 

Streams in the Wasteland 

Project C.U.R.A.T.E. 

RCA Women’s Transformation and Leadership and Equity-Based Hospitality 

Lavish Hope Podcast   

 

Related Resources 

  Intersectionality: The Narratives that Shaped Us with New Co-Host Rev. Liz Testa    Intersectionality: Diversity as God’s Design: A Conversation with Rev. Michelle D. Williams – Part One    Intersectionality: Words Matter! Freedom through Lectionary and Bible Translation with Rev. Dr. Wilda C. Gafney 

 

Disclaimer:  

 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> Listeners are in for a treat as veteran host, Dr. Angela is interviewed by new co-host, Rev. Liz Testa. As Liz got to know Angela and listened to past episodes, she realized the wealth of insight sitting behind the mic that people needed to hear about. You don’t want to miss hearing Angela share how she got involved with CBE (hint, it connects with her doctoral work), what led to the creation of this podcast, and highlights of her most intriguing learnings from her guests along the way. Most importantly, hearing Angela’s vision of intersectionality as part of God’s reconciling work in the world is a true inspiration. You will leave this episode with fresh ideas for creating healthy, compassionate spaces of inclusion and equity in your context... and most likely a desire to go back and relisten to a previous episode or two! 

 

Learn more about Dr. Angela's Streams in the Wasteland mentioned in the podcast at https://www.streamsinthewasteland.org/.  
 
Bios 
 
Rev. Dr. Angela Ravin-Anderson, a native Texan, is an ordained minister with a true passion for seeing the people of God become an authentic expression of God’s love in the world.  Dr. Ravin-Anderson created the Streams in the Wasteland Leadership Institute, a training program to equip and prepare transformational Christian leaders, especially women, based on their unique personalities, passions, and spiritual gifts to minister to the marginalized. She is also a facilitator for Project C.U.R.A.T.E., a faith-based initiative to bring about racial reconciliation and social justice reform within the Christian community. Dr. Ravin-Anderson is an adjunct professor at Abilene Christian University within the Bible Department teaching courses in Old and New Testament Studies, Christian Leadership, and Spiritual Formation. At Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church where she serves as part of the clergy team, she gives leadership to the Social Justice ministry and develops curriculum for adult Christian education and discipleship training programs. She holds a BA in Behavioral Science from Rice University, an MBA and MHA from the University of Houston-Clearlake, received her Master of Divinity degree, Summa Cum Laude from Houston Graduate School of Theology, and her Doctor of Ministry in the area of Pastoral and Missional Church Leadership from the same seminary. 

Rev. Elizabeth (Liz) Testa, raised bi-culturally in New York and Spain, is a pastor, speaker, creative visionary, and community builder who is passionate about encouraging people to embrace their gifts and usher in a vision of God’s reign as women and men of all backgrounds serve together, freely and fully. She currently serves the Reformed Church in America as the ministry executive for Women’s Transformation and Leadership and Equity-Based Hospitality.  In this capacity, she helps the RCA pursue a vision for the full inclusion of women’s gifts, influence, and leadership in all areas of the church and equips faith communities to develop equitable, hospitable practices that build and strengthen the body of Christ for mission in the world. Liz is the founder and host of the Lavish Hope: Stories of Resilience and Overcoming, a podcast that engages fresh perspectives from women and people of color. Rev. Testa holds a BFA (magna cum laude) from Syracuse University, and an MDiv from the Drew Theological School, where she was the John Heston Willey awardee for excellence in Pulpit Oratory and Manner. Her first career was as a professional actress and spokesperson, and she delights at how God uses those experiences to enhance her calling in ministry. Rev. Testa is currently a doctoral student in transformational preaching at New Brunswick Theological Seminary, NJ. 
 

Learn more about Dr. Ravin-Anderson and Rev. Testa’s passions and projects: 

Streams in the Wasteland 

Project C.U.R.A.T.E. 

RCA Women’s Transformation and Leadership and Equity-Based Hospitality 

Lavish Hope Podcast 
 

 

Related Resources 

 
Intersectionality: The Narratives that Shaped Us with New Co-Host Rev. Liz Testa 
 
Intersectionality: Diversity as God’s Design: A Conversation with Rev. Michelle D. Williams – Part One 
 
Intersectionality: Words Matter! Freedom through Lectionary and Bible Translation with Rev. Dr. Wilda C. Gafney 

 

Disclaimer:  

 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> CBE International false No 2531 122 full (Women and Words) “We All Read the Bible Through a Cultural Lens” with Dr. Diphus Chemorion (Women and Words) “We All Read the Bible Through a Cultural Lens” with Dr. Diphus Chemorion https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-we-all-read-the-bible-through-a-cultural-lens-with-dr-diphus-chemorion/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-we-all-read-the-bible-through-a-cultural-lens-with-dr-diphus-chemorion/#comments Fri, 09 Feb 2024 10:21:47 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/fb61e9d6-2f56-3cd8-a682-43c91e202e9b Host Dr. Mimi Haddad continues her conversation with Dr. Diphus Chemorion, a member of CBE’s Bible translation Old Testament team. Dr. Chemorion states that the goal of CBE’s Gender Accurate Bible translation (GAB) is accuracy related to the dignity and agency of women and men. The team has worked to elevate what has been downplayed through a clear process of deliberation, reading of needed source material, and prayer. When the team disagrees, even in heated conversations, they agree to and practice a discipline of prayer and sleep after a disagreement, and come together to land on a good decision, trusting the Holy Spirit to lead them. And, the Spirit has done just that. Dr. Chemorion says working with the GAB team is his favorite translation team he has yet to experience. 

 

An expert in Old Testament, Dr. Chemorion explored the translation process and decisions made in texts from Genesis chapters 1-3, Job 2:9, Numbers 7:4, and more. 

 

Guest Bio: 

Dr. Diphus Chosefu Chemorion is an ordained Minister of the Reformed Church of East Africa (RCEA). He earned his BA in Social Work from the University of Nairobi and a Bachelor of Divinity from St Paul’s University. He also holds a Master of Theology from Emory University (Candler School of Theology) and a Doctor of Theology from Stellenbosch University in South Africa. Rev. Prof. Chemorion has served as an associate professor of Old Testament and dean of faculty of theology at St. Paul’s University in Limuru, Kenya. He is also the RCEA Synod professor of theology. Dr. Chemorion has been active in CBE as a speaker and Bible translator.   

 

Resources by Dr. Chemorion: 

Works Cited: 

]]> Host Dr. Mimi Haddad continues her conversation with Dr. Diphus Chemorion, a member of CBE’s Bible translation Old Testament team. Dr. Chemorion states that the goal of CBE’s Gender Accurate Bible translation (GAB) is accuracy related to the dignity and agency of women and men. The team has worked to elevate what has been downplayed through a clear process of deliberation, reading of needed source material, and prayer. When the team disagrees, even in heated conversations, they agree to and practice a discipline of prayer and sleep after a disagreement, and come together to land on a good decision, trusting the Holy Spirit to lead them. And, the Spirit has done just that. Dr. Chemorion says working with the GAB team is his favorite translation team he has yet to experience. 

 

An expert in Old Testament, Dr. Chemorion explored the translation process and decisions made in texts from Genesis chapters 1-3, Job 2:9, Numbers 7:4, and more. 

 

Guest Bio: 

Dr. Diphus Chosefu Chemorion is an ordained Minister of the Reformed Church of East Africa (RCEA). He earned his BA in Social Work from the University of Nairobi and a Bachelor of Divinity from St Paul’s University. He also holds a Master of Theology from Emory University (Candler School of Theology) and a Doctor of Theology from Stellenbosch University in South Africa. Rev. Prof. Chemorion has served as an associate professor of Old Testament and dean of faculty of theology at St. Paul’s University in Limuru, Kenya. He is also the RCEA Synod professor of theology. Dr. Chemorion has been active in CBE as a speaker and Bible translator.   

 

Resources by Dr. Chemorion: 

Works Cited: 

]]> CBE International false No 2606 121 full (Women and Men Leading Together) Picking Up the Weight Together with Scott Sinner and Bekah Townsend (Women and Men Leading Together) Picking Up the Weight Together with Scott Sinner and Bekah Townsend https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-men-leading-together-picking-up-the-weight-together-with-scott-sinner-and-bekah-townsend/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-men-leading-together-picking-up-the-weight-together-with-scott-sinner-and-bekah-townsend/#comments Fri, 26 Jan 2024 10:46:10 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/8a8d3f67-d0ce-363a-bcd4-1577f2b453ee Pastor Scott Sinner might have “stumbled onto” the idea of mixed-gender ministry partnership, but now he and his colleagues at Green Valley Community Church in Placerville, California, operate out of a place of deep conviction. In this episode, Pastor Sinner and Pastor Bekah Townsend tell Layla and Rob how they live out shared leadership with an emphasis on a clear vision, a foundation of trust, and a commitment to engage one another with vulnerability and grace. Come learn from Scott and Bekah as they tell us how they “pick up the weight together!” 

 

Guest Bios: 

Rebekah Townsend 

Rebekah Townsend joined the pastor team at Green Valley Community Church in August of 2022. She preaches at weekend services and oversees their Next Gen. ministry. For the last twenty-three years, she served in a variety of ministry roles in many different places, but her passion has been the same. She is dedicated to helping people come to know Jesus. Bekah has been married to her husband Ryan for almost twenty years and they have three amazing kids. They enjoy traveling and going on adventures together as a family. 

Scott Sinner 

Actively leading and teaching in the church for over thirty-four years, Scott communicates God’s word through an interactive fun, storytelling style. He is passionate about the local church and believes that when it works right, it can change the world. Scott has been married to his wife Kellie for over thirty-four years, they have two beautiful daughters, two great son-in-laws, and one magnificent grandbaby. When not recovering from some injury, Scott enjoys playing basketball and golf. Growing up in the Bay Area has made the Sinner family avid Raider fans — proof that God has a sense of humor.  

 

Disclaimer:   

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

Other Resources:  Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships 

(Men & Women Leading Together) Creating Safe and Thriving Mixed-Gender Partnerships 

Created to Thrive: Cultivating Abuse-Free Communities 

]]> Pastor Scott Sinner might have “stumbled onto” the idea of mixed-gender ministry partnership, but now he and his colleagues at Green Valley Community Church in Placerville, California, operate out of a place of deep conviction. In this episode, Pastor Sinner and Pastor Bekah Townsend tell Layla and Rob how they live out shared leadership with an emphasis on a clear vision, a foundation of trust, and a commitment to engage one another with vulnerability and grace. Come learn from Scott and Bekah as they tell us how they “pick up the weight together!” 

 

Guest Bios: 

Rebekah Townsend 

Rebekah Townsend joined the pastor team at Green Valley Community Church in August of 2022. She preaches at weekend services and oversees their Next Gen. ministry. For the last twenty-three years, she served in a variety of ministry roles in many different places, but her passion has been the same. She is dedicated to helping people come to know Jesus. Bekah has been married to her husband Ryan for almost twenty years and they have three amazing kids. They enjoy traveling and going on adventures together as a family. 

Scott Sinner 

Actively leading and teaching in the church for over thirty-four years, Scott communicates God’s word through an interactive fun, storytelling style. He is passionate about the local church and believes that when it works right, it can change the world. Scott has been married to his wife Kellie for over thirty-four years, they have two beautiful daughters, two great son-in-laws, and one magnificent grandbaby. When not recovering from some injury, Scott enjoys playing basketball and golf. Growing up in the Bay Area has made the Sinner family avid Raider fans — proof that God has a sense of humor.  

 

Disclaimer: 
 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

Other Resources: 
Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships 

(Men & Women Leading Together) Creating Safe and Thriving Mixed-Gender Partnerships 

Created to Thrive: Cultivating Abuse-Free Communities 

]]> CBE International false No 1984 120 full (Women and Words) Bible Translation as Communication with Dr. Diphus Chemorion (Women and Words) Bible Translation as Communication with Dr. Diphus Chemorion https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-bible-translation-as-communication-with-dr-diphus-chemorion/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-bible-translation-as-communication-with-dr-diphus-chemorion/#comments Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:00:00 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/3417b2aa-7a89-39ad-ba75-966657b7cbf1 Host Dr. Mimi Haddad meets with Dr. Diphus Chemorion, a member of CBE’s Bible translation Old Testament team. Dr. Diphus Chemorion clearly and methodically describes the process of Bible translation primarily as communication versus theological exposition. The task of translation teams is to aim at biblical clarity in addressing their specific and intended audience. Bible readers can learn more about the translation priorities of each translation team by carefully reading and attending to the preface and footnotes in all Bibles where translation teams disclose their objectives, goals, and intended audience. 

  Dr. Chemorion states that the goal of CBE’s Gender Accurate Bible translation (GAB) is accuracy related to the dignity and agency of women and men. The team has worked to elevate what has been downplayed through a clear process of deliberation, reading of needed source material, and prayer. When the team disagrees, even in heated conversations, they agree to and practice a discipline of prayer and sleep after a disagreement, and come together to land on a good decision, trusting the Holy Spirit to lead them. And, the Spirit has done just that. Dr. Chemorion says working with the GAB team is his favorite translation team he has yet to experience. 

 

An expert in Old Testament, Dr. Chemorion explored the translation process and decisions made in texts from Genesis 1–3, Job 2:9, Numbers 7:4, and more. 

 

Resources by Dr. Diphus Chemorion: 

Works cited: 

  • Dr. Christiane Nord 

 

Guest: Dr. Diphus Chosefu Chemorion is an ordained Minister of the Reformed Church of East Africa (RCEA). He earned his BA in Social Work from the University of Nairobi and a Bachelor of Divinity from St Paul’s University. He also holds a Master of Theology from Emory University (Candler School of Theology) and a Doctor of Theology from Stellenbosch University in South Africa. Rev. Prof. Chemorion has served as an associate professor of Old Testament and dean of faculty of theology at St Paul’s University, Limuru- Kenya. He is also the RCEA Synod professor of theology. Dr. Chemorion has been active in CBE as a speaker and Bible translator.  

]]> Host Dr. Mimi Haddad meets with Dr. Diphus Chemorion, a member of CBE’s Bible translation Old Testament team. Dr. Diphus Chemorion clearly and methodically describes the process of Bible translation primarily as communication versus theological exposition. The task of translation teams is to aim at biblical clarity in addressing their specific and intended audience. Bible readers can learn more about the translation priorities of each translation team by carefully reading and attending to the preface and footnotes in all Bibles where translation teams disclose their objectives, goals, and intended audience. 

 
Dr. Chemorion states that the goal of CBE’s Gender Accurate Bible translation (GAB) is accuracy related to the dignity and agency of women and men. The team has worked to elevate what has been downplayed through a clear process of deliberation, reading of needed source material, and prayer. When the team disagrees, even in heated conversations, they agree to and practice a discipline of prayer and sleep after a disagreement, and come together to land on a good decision, trusting the Holy Spirit to lead them. And, the Spirit has done just that. Dr. Chemorion says working with the GAB team is his favorite translation team he has yet to experience. 

 

An expert in Old Testament, Dr. Chemorion explored the translation process and decisions made in texts from Genesis 1–3, Job 2:9, Numbers 7:4, and more. 

 

Resources by Dr. Diphus Chemorion: 

Works cited: 

  • Dr. Christiane Nord 

 

Guest: Dr. Diphus Chosefu Chemorion is an ordained Minister of the Reformed Church of East Africa (RCEA). He earned his BA in Social Work from the University of Nairobi and a Bachelor of Divinity from St Paul’s University. He also holds a Master of Theology from Emory University (Candler School of Theology) and a Doctor of Theology from Stellenbosch University in South Africa. Rev. Prof. Chemorion has served as an associate professor of Old Testament and dean of faculty of theology at St Paul’s University, Limuru- Kenya. He is also the RCEA Synod professor of theology. Dr. Chemorion has been active in CBE as a speaker and Bible translator.  

]]> CBE International false No 2543 119 full (Global Impact) Partnering with Courtship and Marriage Foundation in Zimbabwe, Africa with Rev. Herbert Mazonde (Global Impact) Partnering with Courtship and Marriage Foundation in Zimbabwe, Africa with Rev. Herbert Mazonde https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-partnering-with-courtship-and-marriage-foundation-in-zimbabwe-africa-with-rev-herbert-mazonde/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-partnering-with-courtship-and-marriage-foundation-in-zimbabwe-africa-with-rev-herbert-mazonde/#comments Sat, 30 Dec 2023 11:14:57 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/18c9b486-d5d6-3c6a-9a97-37d9fe2bb5b0 In this episode, hosts Mimi and Kim discuss CBE’s partnership with Rev. Herbert Mazonde as he works to restore the church to the heart of God with women and men working in partnership and mutuality. The team experienced some technical issues throughout the episode with Rev. Herbert’s audio, but even through the barriers of technology and distance, Rev. Herbert shows just how powerfully God is moving through CBE’s partners in Africa to make a significant impact for women and men, especially regarding gender-based violence and child marriage.  

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

  

Guest Bio  

 

Herbert Mazonde is an ordained senior reverend at Harvest House International Church in Birundu, Zimbabwe. He is an experienced church planter, having planted fourteen churches since 2006. But his true passion is the establishment of healthy marriages to serve as an epicenter of human-development that can transform underpriveleged and downtrodden communities. This passion and interest has led him to counsel marriages in over eighteen countries as well as become founder and director of the Courtship and Marriage Foundation. He is married to Rev. Thando and they have one daughter and two sons. 

 

Other Resources: 

  

Learn more about CBE’s Partners in East Africa: Partnering in Africa - CBE International  

 

Listen to “A Lie Long Planted: Unearthing the Deep Roots of Gender Based Injustice” by Medad Birungi  

 

Listen to Mutuality Matters podcast interview with Deborah Asio who oversees CBE’s East Africa partnerships   

 

Listen to Mutuality Matters podcast interview with Emily Onyango to better understand the East African situation for girls and women.  

   Listen to Terran Williams on patriarchy in South Africa: (New Voices) How Complementarianism Just Makes No Sense with Terran Williams | Mutuality Matters (podbean.com) 

]]> In this episode, hosts Mimi and Kim discuss CBE’s partnership with Rev. Herbert Mazonde as he works to restore the church to the heart of God with women and men working in partnership and mutuality. The team experienced some technical issues throughout the episode with Rev. Herbert’s audio, but even through the barriers of technology and distance, Rev. Herbert shows just how powerfully God is moving through CBE’s partners in Africa to make a significant impact for women and men, especially regarding gender-based violence and child marriage.  

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

  

Guest Bio  

 

Herbert Mazonde is an ordained senior reverend at Harvest House International Church in Birundu, Zimbabwe. He is an experienced church planter, having planted fourteen churches since 2006. But his true passion is the establishment of healthy marriages to serve as an epicenter of human-development that can transform underpriveleged and downtrodden communities. This passion and interest has led him to counsel marriages in over eighteen countries as well as become founder and director of the Courtship and Marriage Foundation. He is married to Rev. Thando and they have one daughter and two sons. 

 

Other Resources: 

  

Learn more about CBE’s Partners in East Africa: Partnering in Africa - CBE International  

 

Listen to “A Lie Long Planted: Unearthing the Deep Roots of Gender Based Injustice” by Medad Birungi  

 

Listen to Mutuality Matters podcast interview with Deborah Asio who oversees CBE’s East Africa partnerships   

 

Listen to Mutuality Matters podcast interview with Emily Onyango to better understand the East African situation for girls and women.  

  
Listen to Terran Williams on patriarchy in South Africa: (New Voices) How Complementarianism Just Makes No Sense with Terran Williams | Mutuality Matters (podbean.com) 

]]> CBE International false No 2272 118 full (Women and Words) Refined Gold: The Resilience of Strong Women in Scripture with Dr. Boaz Johnson (Women and Words) Refined Gold: The Resilience of Strong Women in Scripture with Dr. Boaz Johnson https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-refined-gold-the-resilience-of-strong-women-in-scripture-with-dr-boaz-johnson/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-refined-gold-the-resilience-of-strong-women-in-scripture-with-dr-boaz-johnson/#comments Fri, 01 Dec 2023 06:00:00 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/205b2675-8231-37b0-bed5-43d1e874b152 Building on part one, Dr. Boaz Johnson considers how women throughout the Old Testament are characterized by strength (Chayil in Hebrew). Part of women’s strength is the result of much suffering, like Job’s wife who becomes the mother of seven boys and three girls. The girls are named but not the boys. Consider the Song of Songs, the Shulamite woman was also a shepherdess who experienced much pain but also and exhibited even more strength. Consider Ruth who is considered a Proverbs 31 woman. She is also a foreign woman who had much to overcome including much pain. Consider Esther, also portrayed as a Proverbs 31 woman. She too faced unbearable circumstances, but God was faithful and evident in her strength. It is by passing through much suffering that we are made rich with insights and intimacy with God, particularly noted in the Psalms of lament. Consider Psalms 22:1 “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, so far from the words of my groaning?” These are the 7 last words of Jesus on the cross. Scholars note that while dying on the cross, Jesus was singing Psalm 22-23 which are songs of hope! The translation team came to the conclusion that this is not a cry of despair. It’s not a question but a statement that God will not forsake those in pain and who are suffering. Psalm 22: 9-10 was translated by the team as: “You are the one who drew me from the womb. You made me safe at my mother’s breast. Upon you I was cast from my birth. You have been my God from my mother’s womb.” In this passage, God is portrayed both as the father and also as mother. Remember, that while Christ was dying on the cross, the disciples ran away and hide behind locked doors. But the women remained with him, listening to Christ sing as he died. These words were preserved by the women as they remained vigilant with their dying Lord.  Throughout the podcast, Boaz expresses his delight in hearing the voices and insights of the women scholars on CBE’s translation team. The power of their collective wisdom will definitely bring much healing to our world overall, and to the future of Bible translation teams going forward. Thanks be to God! Guest Bio: Dr. Boaz Johnson, PhD Dr. Rev. Boaz Johnson (PhD, Trinity International University and Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) is a professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at North Park University in Chicago, IL. His writing has appeared in publications such as Priscilla Papers, Mutuality, Christianity Today, and The Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society. Boaz is a member of CBE’s translation team and a sought-after speaker. As an Old Testament scholar, Boaz has served on CBE’s Bible Translation Team from the very beginning. See CBE’s website for more resources from Boaz.

References Women of Strength, in Hebrew—Chayil Who is a Virtuous Woman? Correcting Caricatures: Women and Bible Translation Finding “The Proverbs 31 Woman” Psalm 22 NIV Books by Dr. Boaz Johnson The Marys of the Bible: The Original #METOO Movement

Disclaimer The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> Building on part one, Dr. Boaz Johnson considers how women throughout the Old Testament are characterized by strength (Chayil in Hebrew). Part of women’s strength is the result of much suffering, like Job’s wife who becomes the mother of seven boys and three girls. The girls are named but not the boys. Consider the Song of Songs, the Shulamite woman was also a shepherdess who experienced much pain but also and exhibited even more strength. Consider Ruth who is considered a Proverbs 31 woman. She is also a foreign woman who had much to overcome including much pain. Consider Esther, also portrayed as a Proverbs 31 woman. She too faced unbearable circumstances, but God was faithful and evident in her strength. It is by passing through much suffering that we are made rich with insights and intimacy with God, particularly noted in the Psalms of lament.
Consider Psalms 22:1 “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, so far from the words of my groaning?” These are the 7 last words of Jesus on the cross. Scholars note that while dying on the cross, Jesus was singing Psalm 22-23 which are songs of hope! The translation team came to the conclusion that this is not a cry of despair. It’s not a question but a statement that God will not forsake those in pain and who are suffering. Psalm 22: 9-10 was translated by the team as: “You are the one who drew me from the womb. You made me safe at my mother’s breast. Upon you I was cast from my birth. You have been my God from my mother’s womb.” In this passage, God is portrayed both as the father and also as mother. Remember, that while Christ was dying on the cross, the disciples ran away and hide behind locked doors. But the women remained with him, listening to Christ sing as he died. These words were preserved by the women as they remained vigilant with their dying Lord. 
Throughout the podcast, Boaz expresses his delight in hearing the voices and insights of the women scholars on CBE’s translation team. The power of their collective wisdom will definitely bring much healing to our world overall, and to the future of Bible translation teams going forward. Thanks be to God!
Guest Bio: Dr. Boaz Johnson, PhD
Dr. Rev. Boaz Johnson (PhD, Trinity International University and Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) is a professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at North Park University in Chicago, IL. His writing has appeared in publications such as Priscilla Papers, Mutuality, Christianity Today, and The Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society. Boaz is a member of CBE’s translation team and a sought-after speaker. As an Old Testament scholar, Boaz has served on CBE’s Bible Translation Team from the very beginning. See CBE’s website for more resources from Boaz.

References
Women of Strength, in Hebrew—Chayil
Who is a Virtuous Woman?
Correcting Caricatures: Women and Bible Translation
Finding “The Proverbs 31 Woman”
Psalm 22 NIV
Books by Dr. Boaz Johnson
The Marys of the Bible: The Original #METOO Movement

Disclaimer
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 1326 117 full (Global Impact) Partnering with SheLearns in Uganda to Empower Girls with Fred Sebaggala (Global Impact) Partnering with SheLearns in Uganda to Empower Girls with Fred Sebaggala https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-partnering-with-shelearns-in-uganda-to-empower-girls-with-fred-sebaggala/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-partnering-with-shelearns-in-uganda-to-empower-girls-with-fred-sebaggala/#comments Fri, 17 Nov 2023 12:04:20 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/f4423a13-e606-373f-b4d7-3919f7828bc8 In this episode, Mimi and Kim discuss CBE’s partnership with SheLearns in Uganda, East Africa, with the founder and director, Fred Sebaggala. Fred discusses the practical hardships and discrimination that women and girls face in Uganda and how the biblical message from Genesis through Galatians provides girls with the self-esteem to dream and pursue their goals.  

  

Guest Bio:  Fred Sebaggala is the founder and director of SheLearns, an organization designed to empower the girls. Observing his own mother’s difficulties as she ensured the education of all her children, while she was an uneducated, single woman inspired Fred to change the situation for future girls and families.  SheLearns holds seminars, works with groups of boys and girls, and partners with churches and communities to change the realities for girls regarding their education, rights, and justice. Additionally, SheLearns addresses girls’ practical barriers preventing them from education by providing reusable sanitary pads so that girls can attend school. CBE International has partnered with SheLearns and their work in Uganda for the past six years.  

 

 

Other Resources: 

Visit the website of SheLearns to gain a deeper understanding of their work: SheLearns   

 

Learn more about CBE’s Partners in East Africa: Partnering in Africa - CBE International  

 

Listen to “A Lie Long Planted: Unearthing the Deep Roots of Gender Based Injustice” by Medad Birungi  

 

Listen to Mutuality Matters podcast interview with Deborah Asio who oversees CBE’s East Africa partnerships   

 

Listen to Mutuality Matters podcast interview with Emily Onyango to better understand the East African situation for girls and women.  

   Listen to Terran Williams on patriarchy in South Africa: (New Voices) How Complementarianism Just Makes No Sense with Terran Williams | Mutuality Matters (podbean.com)  

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

]]> In this episode, Mimi and Kim discuss CBE’s partnership with SheLearns in Uganda, East Africa, with the founder and director, Fred Sebaggala. Fred discusses the practical hardships and discrimination that women and girls face in Uganda and how the biblical message from Genesis through Galatians provides girls with the self-esteem to dream and pursue their goals.  

  

Guest Bio: 
Fred Sebaggala is the founder and director of SheLearns, an organization designed to empower the girls. Observing his own mother’s difficulties as she ensured the education of all her children, while she was an uneducated, single woman inspired Fred to change the situation for future girls and families.  SheLearns holds seminars, works with groups of boys and girls, and partners with churches and communities to change the realities for girls regarding their education, rights, and justice. Additionally, SheLearns addresses girls’ practical barriers preventing them from education by providing reusable sanitary pads so that girls can attend school. CBE International has partnered with SheLearns and their work in Uganda for the past six years.  

 

 

Other Resources: 

Visit the website of SheLearns to gain a deeper understanding of their work: SheLearns   

 

Learn more about CBE’s Partners in East Africa: Partnering in Africa - CBE International  

 

Listen to “A Lie Long Planted: Unearthing the Deep Roots of Gender Based Injustice” by Medad Birungi  

 

Listen to Mutuality Matters podcast interview with Deborah Asio who oversees CBE’s East Africa partnerships   

 

Listen to Mutuality Matters podcast interview with Emily Onyango to better understand the East African situation for girls and women.  

  
Listen to Terran Williams on patriarchy in South Africa: (New Voices) How Complementarianism Just Makes No Sense with Terran Williams | Mutuality Matters (podbean.com)  

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

]]> CBE International false No 2044 116 full (Women and Words) Women Pioneers in Bible Translation with Dr. Boaz Johnson (Women and Words) Women Pioneers in Bible Translation with Dr. Boaz Johnson https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-women-pioneers-in-bible-translation-with-dr-boaz-johnson/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-women-pioneers-in-bible-translation-with-dr-boaz-johnson/#comments Fri, 03 Nov 2023 10:07:26 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/ae5cbad1-075f-304a-afc4-266781e39c63 Dr. Boaz Johnson explores women Bible translators such as Pandita Ramabai (1858-1922) who, as a child, memorized thousands of Sanskrit texts. After coming to faith as a Christian, Pandita mastered the ancient languages and produced a Bible in Marathi—a very popular dialect in India. The work was completed on her compound called Mukti—meaning salvation. In all of history, there was never a translation of Scripture like Pandita’s that was entirely the work of women: from translation to printing, binding, and distribution. Pandita’s work inspired a contemporary of hers, Katharine Bushnell, MD (1855-1946). A medical doctor, missionary, and anti-trafficking activist, Bushnell encountered prostituted girls in India and elsewhere in the world. Bushnell was convinced that poor Bible translations were part of the cause since they portrayed women as inferior to men. Both women, Ramabai and Bushnell, did significant work to expose and upend the demeaning of women noted in failed Bible translations, a topic Dr. Boaz Johnson addresses throughout the podcast. Another woman mentioned was Frances E. Siewert (1881-1997). Holding academic degrees such as Litt. B., B.D., M.A., Litt. D., Siewert is credited as the visionary who initiated the Amplified Bible. Dr. Boaz Johnson expressed enormous appreciation for the team he works beside especially the women Bible translators from countries outside the US. Their scholarly expertise, coupled with their experiences as women from varied ethnicities and cultural backgrounds brings fresh perspectives to their translation decisions. One example was their decision to translate Ezer Kenegdo in Genesis 2:18 as “one who walks ahead of the other” in a posture of defense and protection. Ezer Kenegdo a phrase most often used of God’s rescue of Israel. This is also how God describes woman in Genesis 2:18: one who protects and defends the man. Dr. Boaz Johnson then connects the characteristic of women’s defensive protection noted in other biblical women like Ruth, the Proverbs 31 woman, and the wife of Job.  The episode ends by considering the women who suffer, the Mary’s of Scripture who through pain and trials become wise, strong, and prophetic leaders.   Guest Bio: Dr. Boaz Johnson, PhD Dr. Rev. Boaz Johnson (PhD, Trinity International University and Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) is a professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at North Park University in Chicago, Illinois. His writing has appeared in publications such as Priscilla Papers, Mutuality, Christianity Today, and The Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society. Boaz is a member of CBE’s translation team and a sought-after speaker. As an Old Testament scholar, Boaz has served on CBE’s Bible Translation Team from the very beginning. View his bio and authored CBE resources on CBE’s website. 

Other Related Reading and Resources Pandita Ramabai Pandita Ramabai’s Legacy: How Gender-Conscious Bible Translation Impacts Christian Ministry Pandita Ramabai, Social Reformer and Bible Translator Katharine Bushnell Workshop Highlight: “Male, Female, Slave, and Free in the Context of a Pandemic: In the Thought of Katharine Bushnell What Katharine Bushnell Still Has to Teach Us Today Ezer Kenegdo (Gen 2:18) Woman as protector and defender Genesis 2:18, NIV What to Say If Someone Says Women Are to Be Men’s Helpers Short Answers to Challenging Texts: Genesis 1–3 Books by Dr. Boaz Johnson The Mary’s of the Bible Disclaimer: The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> Dr. Boaz Johnson explores women Bible translators such as Pandita Ramabai (1858-1922) who, as a child, memorized thousands of Sanskrit texts. After coming to faith as a Christian, Pandita mastered the ancient languages and produced a Bible in Marathi—a very popular dialect in India. The work was completed on her compound called Mukti—meaning salvation. In all of history, there was never a translation of Scripture like Pandita’s that was entirely the work of women: from translation to printing, binding, and distribution. Pandita’s work inspired a contemporary of hers, Katharine Bushnell, MD (1855-1946). A medical doctor, missionary, and anti-trafficking activist, Bushnell encountered prostituted girls in India and elsewhere in the world. Bushnell was convinced that poor Bible translations were part of the cause since they portrayed women as inferior to men. Both women, Ramabai and Bushnell, did significant work to expose and upend the demeaning of women noted in failed Bible translations, a topic Dr. Boaz Johnson addresses throughout the podcast. Another woman mentioned was Frances E. Siewert (1881-1997). Holding academic degrees such as Litt. B., B.D., M.A., Litt. D., Siewert is credited as the visionary who initiated the Amplified Bible.
Dr. Boaz Johnson expressed enormous appreciation for the team he works beside especially the women Bible translators from countries outside the US. Their scholarly expertise, coupled with their experiences as women from varied ethnicities and cultural backgrounds brings fresh perspectives to their translation decisions. One example was their decision to translate Ezer Kenegdo in Genesis 2:18 as “one who walks ahead of the other” in a posture of defense and protection. Ezer Kenegdo a phrase most often used of God’s rescue of Israel. This is also how God describes woman in Genesis 2:18: one who protects and defends the man. Dr. Boaz Johnson then connects the characteristic of women’s defensive protection noted in other biblical women like Ruth, the Proverbs 31 woman, and the wife of Job. 
The episode ends by considering the women who suffer, the Mary’s of Scripture who through pain and trials become wise, strong, and prophetic leaders.  
Guest Bio: Dr. Boaz Johnson, PhD
Dr. Rev. Boaz Johnson (PhD, Trinity International University and Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) is a professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at North Park University in Chicago, Illinois. His writing has appeared in publications such as Priscilla Papers, Mutuality, Christianity Today, and The Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society. Boaz is a member of CBE’s translation team and a sought-after speaker. As an Old Testament scholar, Boaz has served on CBE’s Bible Translation Team from the very beginning. View his bio and authored CBE resources on CBE’s website. 

Other Related Reading and Resources
Pandita Ramabai
Pandita Ramabai’s Legacy: How Gender-Conscious Bible Translation Impacts Christian Ministry
Pandita Ramabai, Social Reformer and Bible Translator
Katharine Bushnell
Workshop Highlight: “Male, Female, Slave, and Free in the Context of a Pandemic: In the Thought of Katharine Bushnell
What Katharine Bushnell Still Has to Teach Us Today
Ezer Kenegdo (Gen 2:18) Woman as protector and defender
Genesis 2:18, NIV
What to Say If Someone Says Women Are to Be Men’s Helpers
Short Answers to Challenging Texts: Genesis 1–3
Books by Dr. Boaz Johnson
The Mary’s of the Bible
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> CBE International false No 1904 115 full (Women and Men Leading Together) “Call Her What She Is” with Maddie Cummings and Brooke Pland (Women and Men Leading Together) “Call Her What She Is” with Maddie Cummings and Brooke Pland https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-men-leading-together-call-her-what-she-is-with-maddie-cummings-and-brooke-pland/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-men-leading-together-call-her-what-she-is-with-maddie-cummings-and-brooke-pland/#comments Fri, 27 Oct 2023 09:08:38 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/ade51eb3-25f8-317e-a033-e0afbd6c9855 In this episode, Layla and Rob sit down with InterVarsity colleagues Brooke Pland and Maddie Cummings to get a sense of Gen. Z’s perspective on women and men partnering together in ministry. These two women offer prophetic words to the church about representation, getting rid of gender-based leadership roles, and the importance of using the right job titles. If you have Gen. Z Christians in your life or faith community, this episode is a must-listen!     Bios  Maddie Cummings loves Jesus and joyfully serves in campus ministry with InterVarsity at CSU Channel Islands. She loves coffee and is a barista — her go-to is an oat milk cappuccino. She holds a degree in Global Studies and is always looking for ways to immerse herself and learn from other cultures. She would say she’s a socially introverted, emotionally self-aware, and funny gal! She’s quick-witted, blunt (maybe too often…), and a Swiftie. She hopes to make the world a better place by holding space for people to engage with Jesus in the hard things of the world!    Brooke Pland is a campus staff minister with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship/USA,  serving within the Greek InterVarsity branch. For the last several years, she has worked with the fraternity & sorority community at her alma mater, U.C. Santa Barbara, where  she studied communication, French, and journalism and from which she is an Alpha  Chi Omega alumna. She is passionate about empowering women in leadership in all  spheres of influence, especially in the church.     Other Reading  Pink Mirror: The ‘Barbie’ Movie’s Wry Reminders of Inequality 
 
Women and Men Leading Together: The Value of Shared Partnerships from a Gen. Z Perspective with Tim Bushra    How to Teach Mutuality to the Next Generation      Disclaimer   The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> In this episode, Layla and Rob sit down with InterVarsity colleagues Brooke Pland and Maddie Cummings to get a sense of Gen. Z’s perspective on women and men partnering together in ministry. These two women offer prophetic words to the church about representation, getting rid of gender-based leadership roles, and the importance of using the right job titles. If you have Gen. Z Christians in your life or faith community, this episode is a must-listen!  
 
Bios 
Maddie Cummings loves Jesus and joyfully serves in campus ministry with InterVarsity at CSU Channel Islands. She loves coffee and is a barista — her go-to is an oat milk cappuccino. She holds a degree in Global Studies and is always looking for ways to immerse herself and learn from other cultures. She would say she’s a socially introverted, emotionally self-aware, and funny gal! She’s quick-witted, blunt (maybe too often…), and a Swiftie. She hopes to make the world a better place by holding space for people to engage with Jesus in the hard things of the world! 
 
Brooke Pland is a campus staff minister with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship/USA, 
serving within the Greek InterVarsity branch. For the last several years, she has worked with the fraternity & sorority community at her alma mater, U.C. Santa Barbara, where 
she studied communication, French, and journalism and from which she is an Alpha 
Chi Omega alumna. She is passionate about empowering women in leadership in all 
spheres of influence, especially in the church. 
 
 Other Reading 
Pink Mirror: The ‘Barbie’ Movie’s Wry Reminders of Inequality 
 
Women and Men Leading Together: The Value of Shared Partnerships from a Gen. Z Perspective with Tim Bushra 
 
How to Teach Mutuality to the Next Generation 
 
 
Disclaimer  
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> CBE International false No 2053 114 full (New Voices) A Visit to the CBE Bookstore with Elizabeth Beyer (New Voices) A Visit to the CBE Bookstore with Elizabeth Beyer https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-a-visit-to-the-cbe-bookstore-with-elizabeth-beyer/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-a-visit-to-the-cbe-bookstore-with-elizabeth-beyer/#comments Fri, 13 Oct 2023 06:00:00 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/cdb9e217-522b-3a75-b748-16404cc8900d Show Notes  

Did you know that CBE reviews books before recommending them in the CBE bookstore? Did you know CBE has created its own books and resources that are available? In this final episode with hosts Blake and Erin, CBE’s manager of learning resources and international projects comes on the podcast to tell you about her favorite books and what to be on the lookout for that will be new to the bookstore. While Erin and Blake take their final bow, we want listeners to know that the podcast and interviews with authors will be continuing as Mutuality Matters Podcast continues to bring you fresh and valuable content. 

  

Bio  

Elizabeth Beyer has worked at CBE since 2008 and currently serves as the manager of learning resources and international projects. She is also a writer and editor, most recently of Created to Thrive: Cultivating Abuse-Free Faith Communities. If you have a question for Liz about the bookstore or book reviews, you can reach her at ebeyer@cbeinternational.org. 

Other Reading   

Women, Abuse, and the Bible: How Scripture Can Be Used to Hurt or Heal by Catherine Clark Kroeger and James R. Beck 

God’s Word to Women by Katharine Bushnell 

Created to Thrive: Cultivating Abuse-Free Faith Communities 

Paul through Mediterranean Eyes: Cultural Studies in 1 Corinthians by Kenneth E. Bailey 

Discovering Biblical Equality: Biblical, Theological, Cultural, and Practical Perspectives (3rd Edition) 

Paul and Gender: Reclaiming the Apostle’s Vision for Men and Women in Christ by Cynthia Long Westfall 

Buried Talents: Overcoming Gendered Socialization to Answer God’s Call by Susan Harris Howell 

Are Women Human? Astute and Witty Essays on the Role of Women in Society by Dorothy L. Sayers 

Nobody’s Mother: Artemis of the Ephesians in Antiquity and the New Testament by Sandra L. Glahn  

  

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> Show Notes  

Did you know that CBE reviews books before recommending them in the CBE bookstore? Did you know CBE has created its own books and resources that are available? In this final episode with hosts Blake and Erin, CBE’s manager of learning resources and international projects comes on the podcast to tell you about her favorite books and what to be on the lookout for that will be new to the bookstore. While Erin and Blake take their final bow, we want listeners to know that the podcast and interviews with authors will be continuing as Mutuality Matters Podcast continues to bring you fresh and valuable content. 

  

Bio  

Elizabeth Beyer has worked at CBE since 2008 and currently serves as the manager of learning resources and international projects. She is also a writer and editor, most recently of Created to Thrive: Cultivating Abuse-Free Faith Communities. If you have a question for Liz about the bookstore or book reviews, you can reach her at ebeyer@cbeinternational.org. 

Other Reading   

Women, Abuse, and the Bible: How Scripture Can Be Used to Hurt or Heal by Catherine Clark Kroeger and James R. Beck 

God’s Word to Women by Katharine Bushnell 

Created to Thrive: Cultivating Abuse-Free Faith Communities 

Paul through Mediterranean Eyes: Cultural Studies in 1 Corinthians by Kenneth E. Bailey 

Discovering Biblical Equality: Biblical, Theological, Cultural, and Practical Perspectives (3rd Edition) 

Paul and Gender: Reclaiming the Apostle’s Vision for Men and Women in Christ by Cynthia Long Westfall 

Buried Talents: Overcoming Gendered Socialization to Answer God’s Call by Susan Harris Howell 

Are Women Human? Astute and Witty Essays on the Role of Women in Society by Dorothy L. Sayers 

Nobody’s Mother: Artemis of the Ephesians in Antiquity and the New Testament by Sandra L. Glahn  

  

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> CBE International false No 1886 113 full (Women & Words) Translating the Old Testament Part Two with Dr. Havilah Dharamraj (Women & Words) Translating the Old Testament Part Two with Dr. Havilah Dharamraj https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-words-translating-the-old-testament-part-two-with-dr-havilah-dharamraj/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-words-translating-the-old-testament-part-two-with-dr-havilah-dharamraj/#comments Sun, 08 Oct 2023 11:41:14 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/0b86c366-414c-37a0-8d6c-fb1fa3baa880 Referring to the Genesis passages from Part 1, Havilah addresses the challenges of using all masculine for God, noting it’s impact on women and girls by assessing Genesis 2:18: “The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” Woman is too often described as “man’s helper or assistant.” But a more faithful treatment of the text would be woman as man’s “perfect comrade.” 

 

Even more important, we tend to focus on God’s maleness, versus God as a motherly father, or God as fatherly Mother. An unfaithful and overuse of masculine language for God leaves women and girls wondering if they are, by comparison, somehow inferior. Sermons too often imply that God is more male than female with problematic outcomes. More attention is needed to focus on the feminine characteristics of God.  

 

Consider Isaiah 42:14 (citing God): “For a long time I have kept silent, I have been quiet and held myself back. But now, like a woman in childbirth, I cry out, I gasp and pant.” And, if women preached more, these texts would come up and balance the preponderance of masculine language for God. This would be affirming to women and that God is beyond gender and uses both masculine and feminine images.  

 

Havilah discussed some of her favorite passages like: Judges 4:4ff focused on Deborah. “Now Deborah, a prophet, the wife of Lappidoth, was leading Israel at that time.” CBE’s proposed translation of this verse is one you won’t want to miss! Deborah is a woman of flame! She goes on top of the mountain to signal the army to charge. She’s a leader, prophet, and a fiery woman. She an unstoppable leader. She is “high voltage!”  

 

The Deuteronomy 22 text was also discussed as it describes the rape of a woman which the translations “soften” what actually happened. It is very vital to make vivid and real the facts: calling out the fact she was raped. NIV also takes this posture, but we make it more clear throughout the text that the real issue is sexual assault.  

 

We discussed Exodus 21:10 as the text addresses a man who takes another wife again softening the experiences of the woman. But our translation brings out the power of the text to reveal with greater empathy the woman as well as the man in the text. 

 

We end with a discussion on “strength” or chayil in Hebrew in the book of Ruth. Chayil, Havilah points out, refers not only to strength but as status in the community. Boaz is described throughout the book of Ruth as a man of status or respect. And in Chapter 3, Boaz speaks to Ruth telling her she is a chayil a woman of strength. This is astonishing because as a Moabite, she was not even permitted to enter the community of Israel. They were viewed as an incestuous people. Yet Boaz calls Ruth chayil one who is outstanding in the community even as she reached out to him in the cover of night. But because she did so as a loyal daughter-in-law, who worked to protect and preserve the life of her mother-in-law (Naomi), she too deserves the status of chayil. 

 

Havilah ends her discussion with the Proverbs 31 woman as a leader a chayil. 

 

Guest Bio:  

 

Dr. Havilah Dharamraj currently serves as academic editor of CBE’s award-winning academic journal, Priscilla Papers. She is a Langham Scholar and has for years pioneered a better biblical understanding of women in Scripture. Currently Havilah heads CBE’s chapter in India. She holds a PhD in Old Testament, from the University of Durham, UK. Her research interests are Old Testament and Comparative Literature. She is faculty at the South Asia Institute for Advanced Christian Studies, India. With an interest in biblical narrative, she encourages the use of storytelling in the pulpit. She is author of various articles, commentaries, and monographs, as well as an editor of the South Asia Bible Commentary (Zondervan, 2015) and the forthcoming South Asia Study Bible. Havilah writes and speaks for CBE. She received CBE’s Lifetime Achievement award in 2019. 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s Publications 

 

Books: Authored and co-authored 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s Articles 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s CBE YouTube Lectures: 

Disclaimer:  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> Referring to the Genesis passages from Part 1, Havilah addresses the challenges of using all masculine for God, noting it’s impact on women and girls by assessing Genesis 2:18: “The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” Woman is too often described as “man’s helper or assistant.” But a more faithful treatment of the text would be woman as man’s “perfect comrade.” 

 

Even more important, we tend to focus on God’s maleness, versus God as a motherly father, or God as fatherly Mother. An unfaithful and overuse of masculine language for God leaves women and girls wondering if they are, by comparison, somehow inferior. Sermons too often imply that God is more male than female with problematic outcomes. More attention is needed to focus on the feminine characteristics of God.  

 

Consider Isaiah 42:14 (citing God): “For a long time I have kept silent, I have been quiet and held myself back. But now, like a woman in childbirth, I cry out, I gasp and pant.” And, if women preached more, these texts would come up and balance the preponderance of masculine language for God. This would be affirming to women and that God is beyond gender and uses both masculine and feminine images.  

 

Havilah discussed some of her favorite passages like: Judges 4:4ff focused on Deborah. “Now Deborah, a prophet, the wife of Lappidoth, was leading Israel at that time.” CBE’s proposed translation of this verse is one you won’t want to miss! Deborah is a woman of flame! She goes on top of the mountain to signal the army to charge. She’s a leader, prophet, and a fiery woman. She an unstoppable leader. She is “high voltage!”  

 

The Deuteronomy 22 text was also discussed as it describes the rape of a woman which the translations “soften” what actually happened. It is very vital to make vivid and real the facts: calling out the fact she was raped. NIV also takes this posture, but we make it more clear throughout the text that the real issue is sexual assault.  

 

We discussed Exodus 21:10 as the text addresses a man who takes another wife again softening the experiences of the woman. But our translation brings out the power of the text to reveal with greater empathy the woman as well as the man in the text. 

 

We end with a discussion on “strength” or chayil in Hebrew in the book of Ruth. Chayil, Havilah points out, refers not only to strength but as status in the community. Boaz is described throughout the book of Ruth as a man of status or respect. And in Chapter 3, Boaz speaks to Ruth telling her she is a chayil a woman of strength. This is astonishing because as a Moabite, she was not even permitted to enter the community of Israel. They were viewed as an incestuous people. Yet Boaz calls Ruth chayil one who is outstanding in the community even as she reached out to him in the cover of night. But because she did so as a loyal daughter-in-law, who worked to protect and preserve the life of her mother-in-law (Naomi), she too deserves the status of chayil. 

 

Havilah ends her discussion with the Proverbs 31 woman as a leader a chayil. 

 

Guest Bio:  

 

Dr. Havilah Dharamraj currently serves as academic editor of CBE’s award-winning academic journal, Priscilla Papers. She is a Langham Scholar and has for years pioneered a better biblical understanding of women in Scripture. Currently Havilah heads CBE’s chapter in India. She holds a PhD in Old Testament, from the University of Durham, UK. Her research interests are Old Testament and Comparative Literature. She is faculty at the South Asia Institute for Advanced Christian Studies, India. With an interest in biblical narrative, she encourages the use of storytelling in the pulpit. She is author of various articles, commentaries, and monographs, as well as an editor of the South Asia Bible Commentary (Zondervan, 2015) and the forthcoming South Asia Study Bible. Havilah writes and speaks for CBE. She received CBE’s Lifetime Achievement award in 2019. 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s Publications 

 

Books: Authored and co-authored 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s Articles 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s CBE YouTube Lectures: 

Disclaimer:  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> CBE International false No 1682 112 full (Intersectionality) The Narratives that Shaped Us with New Co-Host Rev. Liz Testa (Intersectionality) The Narratives that Shaped Us with New Co-Host Rev. Liz Testa https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-the-narratives-that-shaped-us-with-new-co-host-rev-liz-testa/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-the-narratives-that-shaped-us-with-new-co-host-rev-liz-testa/#comments Fri, 29 Sep 2023 11:54:50 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/48367be4-56af-349e-bf2a-716fa2b28dbd Rev. Angela Ravin-Anderson welcomes new co-host, Rev. Liz Testa, and together they reflect on intersectionality and why it’s an important aspect of what shapes them as women, believers, and leaders. Angela and Liz reflect on their faith journeys and some of the narratives within their home or early development that shaped them, as well as how they have experienced being at the intersection of race, gender, and religion and navigated through the challenges and opportunities. Their lively conversation concludes with honest sharing about how God has called them to show up in the midst of the complexities of today’s world, and how they believe God is desiring women in general, and them in particular, to show up and make a positive, lasting impact.

Bios Rev. Dr. Angela Ravin-Anderson, a native Texan, is an ordained minister with a true passion for seeing the people of God become an authentic expression of God’s love in the world.  Dr. Ravin-Anderson created the Streams in the Wasteland Leadership Institute, a training program to equip and prepare transformational Christian leaders, especially women, based on their unique personalities, passions, and spiritual gifts to minister to the marginalized. She is also a facilitator for Project C.U.R.A.T.E., a faith-based initiative to bring about racial reconciliation and social justice reform within the Christian community. Dr. Ravin-Anderson is an adjunct professor at Abilene Christian University within the Bible Department teaching courses in Old and New Testament Studies, Christian Leadership, and Spiritual Formation. At Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church where she serves as part of the clergy team, she gives leadership to the Social Justice ministry and develops curriculum for adult Christian education and discipleship training programs. She holds a BA in Behavioral Science from Rice University, an MBA and MHA from the University of Houston-Clearlake, received her Master of Divinity degree, Summa Cum Laude from Houston Graduate School of Theology, and her Doctor of Ministry in the area of Pastoral and Missional Church Leadership from the same seminary. Rev. Elizabeth (Liz) Testa, raised bi-culturally in New York and Spain, is a pastor, speaker, creative visionary, and community builder who is passionate about encouraging people to embrace their gifts and usher in a vision of God’s reign as women and men of all backgrounds serve together, freely and fully. She currently serves the Reformed Church in America as the ministry executive for Women’s Transformation and Leadership and Equity-Based Hospitality.  In this capacity, she helps the RCA pursue a vision for the full inclusion of women’s gifts, influence, and leadership in all areas of the church and equips faith communities to develop equitable, hospitable practices that build and strengthen the body of Christ for mission in the world. Liz is the founder and host of the Lavish Hope: Stories of Resilience and Overcoming, a podcast that engages fresh perspectives from women and people of color. Rev. Testa holds a BFA (magna cum laude) from Syracuse University, and an MDiv from the Drew Theological School, where she was the John Heston Willey awardee for excellence in Pulpit Oratory and Manner. Her first career was as a professional actress and spokesperson, and she delights at how God uses those experiences to enhance her calling in ministry. Rev. Testa is currently a doctoral student in transformational preaching at New Brunswick Theological Seminary, NJ. Learn more about Dr. Ravin-Anderson and Rev. Testa’s passions and projects: Streams in the Wasteland Project C.U.R.A.T.E. RCA Women’s Transformation and Leadership and Equity-Based Hospitality Lavish Hope Podcast

Disclaimer The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

]]> Rev. Angela Ravin-Anderson welcomes new co-host, Rev. Liz Testa, and together they reflect on intersectionality and why it’s an important aspect of what shapes them as women, believers, and leaders. Angela and Liz reflect on their faith journeys and some of the narratives within their home or early development that shaped them, as well as how they have experienced being at the intersection of race, gender, and religion and navigated through the challenges and opportunities. Their lively conversation concludes with honest sharing about how God has called them to show up in the midst of the complexities of today’s world, and how they believe God is desiring women in general, and them in particular, to show up and make a positive, lasting impact.

Bios
Rev. Dr. Angela Ravin-Anderson, a native Texan, is an ordained minister with a true passion for seeing the people of God become an authentic expression of God’s love in the world.  Dr. Ravin-Anderson created the Streams in the Wasteland Leadership Institute, a training program to equip and prepare transformational Christian leaders, especially women, based on their unique personalities, passions, and spiritual gifts to minister to the marginalized. She is also a facilitator for Project C.U.R.A.T.E., a faith-based initiative to bring about racial reconciliation and social justice reform within the Christian community. Dr. Ravin-Anderson is an adjunct professor at Abilene Christian University within the Bible Department teaching courses in Old and New Testament Studies, Christian Leadership, and Spiritual Formation. At Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church where she serves as part of the clergy team, she gives leadership to the Social Justice ministry and develops curriculum for adult Christian education and discipleship training programs. She holds a BA in Behavioral Science from Rice University, an MBA and MHA from the University of Houston-Clearlake, received her Master of Divinity degree, Summa Cum Laude from Houston Graduate School of Theology, and her Doctor of Ministry in the area of Pastoral and Missional Church Leadership from the same seminary.
Rev. Elizabeth (Liz) Testa, raised bi-culturally in New York and Spain, is a pastor, speaker, creative visionary, and community builder who is passionate about encouraging people to embrace their gifts and usher in a vision of God’s reign as women and men of all backgrounds serve together, freely and fully. She currently serves the Reformed Church in America as the ministry executive for Women’s Transformation and Leadership and Equity-Based Hospitality.  In this capacity, she helps the RCA pursue a vision for the full inclusion of women’s gifts, influence, and leadership in all areas of the church and equips faith communities to develop equitable, hospitable practices that build and strengthen the body of Christ for mission in the world. Liz is the founder and host of the Lavish Hope: Stories of Resilience and Overcoming, a podcast that engages fresh perspectives from women and people of color. Rev. Testa holds a BFA (magna cum laude) from Syracuse University, and an MDiv from the Drew Theological School, where she was the John Heston Willey awardee for excellence in Pulpit Oratory and Manner. Her first career was as a professional actress and spokesperson, and she delights at how God uses those experiences to enhance her calling in ministry. Rev. Testa is currently a doctoral student in transformational preaching at New Brunswick Theological Seminary, NJ.
Learn more about Dr. Ravin-Anderson and Rev. Testa’s passions and projects:
Streams in the Wasteland
Project C.U.R.A.T.E.
RCA Women’s Transformation and Leadership and Equity-Based Hospitality
Lavish Hope Podcast

Disclaimer
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

]]> CBE International false No 2356 111 full (New Voices) “Women will be saved through childbearing”? 1 Timothy 2 and Artemis with Dr. Sandra Glahn (New Voices) “Women will be saved through childbearing”? 1 Timothy 2 and Artemis with Dr. Sandra Glahn https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-women-will-be-saved-through-childbearing-1-timothy-2-and-artemis-with-dr-sandra-glahn/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-women-will-be-saved-through-childbearing-1-timothy-2-and-artemis-with-dr-sandra-glahn/#comments Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:53:44 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/92fc2f4b-0a5e-3c8a-b1fe-58c52abf23f4 Show Notes  Are women saved through childbearing? Blake and Erin tackle one of the stickiest passages concerning women in the New Testament with scholar, Sandra Glahn. In her forthcoming book: Nobody’s Mother, Glahn tackles this passage from 1 Timothy and the context that informs it.  You can find the book in CBE’s Bookstore.   Bio  Sandra L. Glahn (PhD, University of Texas at Dallas) has authored or edited more than twenty books, including Vindicating the Vixens, Earl Grey with Ephesians, Sanctified Sexuality (coeditor), and Sexual Intimacy in Marriage (coauthor). This episode is about her forthcoming book from IVP Academic: Nobody’s Mother: Artemis of the Ephesians in Antiquity and the New Testament.   Other Resources 
 Artemis of the Ephesians and the Ramifications for How We Read 1 Timothy: Sandra Glahn

How to Understand 1 Timothy 2? Context, Context, Context Andrew Bartlett
 Paul’s Concern for Ephesus: A Survey of 1 Timothy 2:8–15
     Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> Show Notes 
Are women saved through childbearing? Blake and Erin tackle one of the stickiest passages concerning women in the New Testament with scholar, Sandra Glahn. In her forthcoming book: Nobody’s Mother, Glahn tackles this passage from 1 Timothy and the context that informs it.  You can find the book in CBE’s Bookstore.
 
Bio 
Sandra L. Glahn (PhD, University of Texas at Dallas) has authored or edited more than twenty books, including Vindicating the Vixens, Earl Grey with Ephesians, Sanctified Sexuality (coeditor), and Sexual Intimacy in Marriage (coauthor). This episode is about her forthcoming book from IVP Academic: Nobody’s Mother: Artemis of the Ephesians in Antiquity and the New Testament.
 
Other Resources 

Artemis of the Ephesians and the Ramifications for How We Read 1 Timothy: Sandra Glahn

How to Understand 1 Timothy 2? Context, Context, Context Andrew Bartlett

Paul’s Concern for Ephesus: A Survey of 1 Timothy 2:8–15

 
 
Disclaimer 
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 1861 110 full Women & Words: Translating the Old Testament Part One with Dr. Havilah Dharamraj Women & Words: Translating the Old Testament Part One with Dr. Havilah Dharamraj https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-words-translating-the-old-testament-part-one-with-dr-havilah-dharamraj/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-words-translating-the-old-testament-part-one-with-dr-havilah-dharamraj/#comments Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:15:55 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/b861d745-7e0b-353e-8532-e0e97993975e In part one of “Translating the Old Testament with Dr. Havilah Dharamraj,” Havilah discusses not only her work leading CBE’s Old Testament translation team, but also their methodology, priorities, and examples of both. Significant examples cited include: 

 

Psalm 68:11, “The Lord announces the word, and the women who proclaim it are a mighty throng.” Havilah and the team propose a far more faithful translation in English as: “The Lord speaks good news, and a great multitude of women broadcast it.” She mentions women in Scripture who broadcast the good news such as Mary Magdalene, John 20:11–18.  

 

Considering the crucial issue of women’s inheritance, Havilah addresses Numbers 27:4 (correction from episode citing Num. 26:4): “Take a census of the men twenty years of age or older, as the LORD has commanded Moses.” And these were the Israelites who came out of the land of Egypt…” This passage has been the basis for women gaining inheritance rights the world over, especially today.  

 

Next, we explored Genesis chapters 1–3. Especially Genesis 2:23 and Genesis 2:24 (correction from episode citing Genesis 1:23–24) to consider whether these passages suggest woman is derivative of man and therefore lesser? Too often that is how the passage is interpreted. But the team opted not for “bone of my bone, but “my own flesh and blood.” A far better “sense” translation because it speaks directly to the highest kinship relationships in the ancient world and today as well. When Adam first meets Eve and recognizes her as his own flesh and blood, the text immediately moves to: Thus, the husband detach from his kinship relations—his parents to attach to his wife, this now is the strongest bond—new kinship relation of marriage (Genesis 2:24). Hence, this text, when interpreted well, is quite subversive and gives women protection from alignment with the husband’s clan where women are often vulnerable and without support. 

 

With power and wisdom, Havilah traces the pattern of chaos and disruption sin inaugurates into the sinless world. Sin disrupts the nature and relations of the serpent, the man and woman. The snake lost its locomotion, the man must labor to grow food, and the woman experiences pain in childbirth. Further, sin distorts/fractures not only the nature of life, but also the relationships between man and woman who no longer live in mutuality or oneness. In a sinful world, the man now rules over the woman who desires what was once their life of mutuality. Listen for more on these crucial passages. 

 

Please join us for Part 2 on October 6 as Havilah discusses the impact of better transitions on issues such as feminine language for God, sexual abuse cited in Scripture, and women of strength in Ruth. Join us next month as “Women & Words: Why Bible Translations Matter” brings better ways of interpreting the Hebrew Bible. 

 

 

Guest Bio:  

 

Dr. Havilah Dharamraj currently serves as academic editor of CBE’s award-winning academic journal, Priscilla Papers. She is a Langham Scholar and has for years pioneered a better biblical understanding of women in Scripture. Currently Havilah heads CBE’s chapter in India. She holds a PhD in Old Testament, from the University of Durham, UK. Her research interests are Old Testament and Comparative Literature. She is faculty at the South Asia Institute for Advanced Christian Studies, India. With an interest in biblical narrative, she encourages the use of storytelling in the pulpit. She is author of various articles, commentaries, and monographs, as well as an editor of the South Asia Bible Commentary (Zondervan, 2015) and the forthcoming South Asia Study Bible. Havilah writes and speaks for CBE. She received CBE’s Lifetime Achievement award in 2019. 

 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s Publications 

 

Books: Authored and co-authored 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s Articles 

 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s CBE YouTube Lectures:   

 

Disclaimer:  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> In part one of “Translating the Old Testament with Dr. Havilah Dharamraj,” Havilah discusses not only her work leading CBE’s Old Testament translation team, but also their methodology, priorities, and examples of both. Significant examples cited include: 

 

Psalm 68:11, “The Lord announces the word, and the women who proclaim it are a mighty throng.” Havilah and the team propose a far more faithful translation in English as: “The Lord speaks good news, and a great multitude of women broadcast it.” She mentions women in Scripture who broadcast the good news such as Mary Magdalene, John 20:11–18.  

 

Considering the crucial issue of women’s inheritance, Havilah addresses Numbers 27:4 (correction from episode citing Num. 26:4): “Take a census of the men twenty years of age or older, as the LORD has commanded Moses.” And these were the Israelites who came out of the land of Egypt…” This passage has been the basis for women gaining inheritance rights the world over, especially today.  

 

Next, we explored Genesis chapters 1–3. Especially Genesis 2:23 and Genesis 2:24 (correction from episode citing Genesis 1:23–24) to consider whether these passages suggest woman is derivative of man and therefore lesser? Too often that is how the passage is interpreted. But the team opted not for “bone of my bone, but “my own flesh and blood.” A far better “sense” translation because it speaks directly to the highest kinship relationships in the ancient world and today as well. When Adam first meets Eve and recognizes her as his own flesh and blood, the text immediately moves to: Thus, the husband detach from his kinship relations—his parents to attach to his wife, this now is the strongest bond—new kinship relation of marriage (Genesis 2:24). Hence, this text, when interpreted well, is quite subversive and gives women protection from alignment with the husband’s clan where women are often vulnerable and without support. 

 

With power and wisdom, Havilah traces the pattern of chaos and disruption sin inaugurates into the sinless world. Sin disrupts the nature and relations of the serpent, the man and woman. The snake lost its locomotion, the man must labor to grow food, and the woman experiences pain in childbirth. Further, sin distorts/fractures not only the nature of life, but also the relationships between man and woman who no longer live in mutuality or oneness. In a sinful world, the man now rules over the woman who desires what was once their life of mutuality. Listen for more on these crucial passages. 

 

Please join us for Part 2 on October 6 as Havilah discusses the impact of better transitions on issues such as feminine language for God, sexual abuse cited in Scripture, and women of strength in Ruth. Join us next month as “Women & Words: Why Bible Translations Matter” brings better ways of interpreting the Hebrew Bible. 

 

 

Guest Bio:  

 

Dr. Havilah Dharamraj currently serves as academic editor of CBE’s award-winning academic journal, Priscilla Papers. She is a Langham Scholar and has for years pioneered a better biblical understanding of women in Scripture. Currently Havilah heads CBE’s chapter in India. She holds a PhD in Old Testament, from the University of Durham, UK. Her research interests are Old Testament and Comparative Literature. She is faculty at the South Asia Institute for Advanced Christian Studies, India. With an interest in biblical narrative, she encourages the use of storytelling in the pulpit. She is author of various articles, commentaries, and monographs, as well as an editor of the South Asia Bible Commentary (Zondervan, 2015) and the forthcoming South Asia Study Bible. Havilah writes and speaks for CBE. She received CBE’s Lifetime Achievement award in 2019. 

 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s Publications 

 

Books: Authored and co-authored 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s Articles 

 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s CBE YouTube Lectures: 
 

 

Disclaimer:  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> CBE International false No 1753 109 full (Global Impact) Courage Worldwide’s Work Against Sex Trafficking in Tanzania and the USA with Stephanie Midthun (Global Impact) Courage Worldwide’s Work Against Sex Trafficking in Tanzania and the USA with Stephanie Midthun https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-courage-worldwide-s-work-against-sex-trafficking-in-tanzania-and-the-usa-with-stephanie-midthun/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-courage-worldwide-s-work-against-sex-trafficking-in-tanzania-and-the-usa-with-stephanie-midthun/#comments Fri, 25 Aug 2023 08:11:13 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/00c33f97-58cc-38a7-b3c9-ebdaed892ad7 In this episode Mimi and Kim interview Stephanie Midthun of Courage Worldwide about their healing homes for girls rescued out of Sex Trafficking, both in the USA and in Tanzania. She discusses the root causes that make girls vulnerable to sex trafficking, as well as the healing girls experience that break the cycle of exploitation, causing a transformative ripple effect in the larger community. 

Trigger Warning: This episode contains details of trauma, sexual assault, rape, and abuse. Listener discretion is advised.  

Guest Bio 

Stephanie Midthun is trained in both Bible and music, serving as a music director for twenty-five years. In 2008 when Stephanie Midthun heard about the intense fight against human trafficking in her own backyard of Sacramento, she began writing music and leading concerts that benefited the fight against sex trafficking with Courage Worldwide who was opening safe houses for girls rescued out of sex trafficking in California and Kilimanjaro, Tanzania.  She eventually joined Courage Worldwide’s staff, and in 2017, after raising three boys, she and her husband took over as Executive Directors of Courage Worldwide Tanzania.  Since that time, the work in Tanzania has exploded from four residents and five staff at Courage House to sixty residents and children, fifty-five staff, two safe houses in the Kilimanjaro region, and a safe house in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, opening May 2023.  She is now the Courage Worldwide regional director of East Africa. 

Contact Information 

Email: Stephanie Midthun at s.midthun@courageworldwide.org 

Learn More  

Courage Worldwide Tanzania 

Other Resources  

Learn more about Courage Worldwide Tanzania. 

Read about the link between porn and sex trafficking in Porn's Complicity in Abuse by Mimi Haddad or listen to Pornography for Profit: The Link to Sex Trafficking by Sandra Morgan. 

Read about how to recognize and do something about human trafficking in The Selling and Buying of Souls (Part 1) and The Selling and Buying of Souls (Part 2) by Sherry Schwartz. 

Leveraging Mujerista and Womanist Theologies for Ministry Among Victims and Survivors of Sex Trafficking by Valerie Geer. 

Why Men Who Oppose Trafficking Must Fight Patriarchy by Rebecca Kotz. 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> In this episode Mimi and Kim interview Stephanie Midthun of Courage Worldwide about their healing homes for girls rescued out of Sex Trafficking, both in the USA and in Tanzania. She discusses the root causes that make girls vulnerable to sex trafficking, as well as the healing girls experience that break the cycle of exploitation, causing a transformative ripple effect in the larger community. 

Trigger Warning: This episode contains details of trauma, sexual assault, rape, and abuse. Listener discretion is advised.  

Guest Bio 

Stephanie Midthun is trained in both Bible and music, serving as a music director for twenty-five years. In 2008 when Stephanie Midthun heard about the intense fight against human trafficking in her own backyard of Sacramento, she began writing music and leading concerts that benefited the fight against sex trafficking with Courage Worldwide who was opening safe houses for girls rescued out of sex trafficking in California and Kilimanjaro, Tanzania.  She eventually joined Courage Worldwide’s staff, and in 2017, after raising three boys, she and her husband took over as Executive Directors of Courage Worldwide Tanzania.  Since that time, the work in Tanzania has exploded from four residents and five staff at Courage House to sixty residents and children, fifty-five staff, two safe houses in the Kilimanjaro region, and a safe house in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, opening May 2023.  She is now the Courage Worldwide regional director of East Africa. 

Contact Information 

Email: Stephanie Midthun at s.midthun@courageworldwide.org 

Learn More  

Courage Worldwide Tanzania 

Other Resources  

Learn more about Courage Worldwide Tanzania. 

Read about the link between porn and sex trafficking in Porn's Complicity in Abuse by Mimi Haddad or listen to Pornography for Profit: The Link to Sex Trafficking by Sandra Morgan. 

Read about how to recognize and do something about human trafficking in The Selling and Buying of Souls (Part 1) and The Selling and Buying of Souls (Part 2) by Sherry Schwartz. 

Leveraging Mujerista and Womanist Theologies for Ministry Among Victims and Survivors of Sex Trafficking by Valerie Geer. 

Why Men Who Oppose Trafficking Must Fight Patriarchy by Rebecca Kotz. 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 3096 108 full (New Voices) Equity in the Christian Workplace with Eeva Simard and Beth Birmingham (New Voices) Equity in the Christian Workplace with Eeva Simard and Beth Birmingham https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-equity-in-the-christian-workplace-with-eeva-simard-and-beth-birmingham/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-equity-in-the-christian-workplace-with-eeva-simard-and-beth-birmingham/#comments Fri, 11 Aug 2023 07:05:39 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/f7a7e45d-b294-3a46-8ab9-e3ef11b8fa63 What does it mean to belong? How do we dismantle toxic systems and create equity in our missional spaces? Hosts Blake and Erin talk with Eeva Simard and Beth Birmingham about their practical book on organizational leadership and gender equality: Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive. Be sure to pick up your copy at the CBE bookstore and visit The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development to follow their work. 

  

Guest Bios:   Beth Birmingham is a professor, leadership consultant, author, speaker and facilitator/steering committee member for The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development. She’s spent twenty-five years developing leaders for and serving in global development organizations, work that has taken her to over thirty countries. Beth is a member of the Wheaton Consortium for Development, Gender, and Christianity. Beth holds a PhD in leadership and change from Antioch University, and an MBA in international economic development from Eastern University. 

Eeva Sallinen Simard is project director of World Relief’s SCOPE project that works in Haiti, Kenya, Malawi, and South Sudan to support health outcomes for mothers and babies. She has worked with nonprofits for ten years and is committed to excellence in management, communication, and employee wellbeing. Eeva is an advisor for the Wheaton Consortium for Development, Gender, and Christianity and a steering committee member of The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development. Eeva holds an MS in international politics from the University of Helsinki and an MBA from John Hopkins University. 

Together they co-authored Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive (IVP, 2022). 

Other Resources: 

Global Impact: Religious Gatekeeping and Egalitarian Leadership with Dr. Beth Birmingham 

Speakers Highlight: Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard 

Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive | Eeva Sallinen Simard and Beth Birmingham 

 

Disclaimer:  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> What does it mean to belong? How do we dismantle toxic systems and create equity in our missional spaces? Hosts Blake and Erin talk with Eeva Simard and Beth Birmingham about their practical book on organizational leadership and gender equality: Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive. Be sure to pick up your copy at the CBE bookstore and visit The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development to follow their work. 

  

Guest Bios:  
Beth Birmingham is a professor, leadership consultant, author, speaker and facilitator/steering committee member for The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development. She’s spent twenty-five years developing leaders for and serving in global development organizations, work that has taken her to over thirty countries. Beth is a member of the Wheaton Consortium for Development, Gender, and Christianity. Beth holds a PhD in leadership and change from Antioch University, and an MBA in international economic development from Eastern University. 

Eeva Sallinen Simard is project director of World Relief’s SCOPE project that works in Haiti, Kenya, Malawi, and South Sudan to support health outcomes for mothers and babies. She has worked with nonprofits for ten years and is committed to excellence in management, communication, and employee wellbeing. Eeva is an advisor for the Wheaton Consortium for Development, Gender, and Christianity and a steering committee member of The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development. Eeva holds an MS in international politics from the University of Helsinki and an MBA from John Hopkins University. 

Together they co-authored Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive (IVP, 2022). 

Other Resources: 

Global Impact: Religious Gatekeeping and Egalitarian Leadership with Dr. Beth Birmingham 

Speakers Highlight: Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard 

Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive | Eeva Sallinen Simard and Beth Birmingham 

 

Disclaimer:  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

]]> CBE International false No 2120 107 full (Women and Words) “Male Pronouns Don’t Exist in 1 Timothy 3:1–7” with Dr. Philip B. Payne (Women and Words) “Male Pronouns Don’t Exist in 1 Timothy 3:1–7” with Dr. Philip B. Payne https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-male-pronouns-don-t-exist-in-1-timothy-31%e2%80%937-with-dr-philip-b-payne/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-male-pronouns-don-t-exist-in-1-timothy-31%e2%80%937-with-dr-philip-b-payne/#comments Fri, 04 Aug 2023 10:56:26 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/64760321-f59c-3041-ba06-3b79af53b48c  

Dr. Philip B. Payne is a key member of CBE’s Bible Translation Team. He was active and instrumental from the very start! During episodes one and two, Mimi and Phil explore the important translation decisions of the New Testament team on difficult texts such as 1 Timothy 2:11–15, 3:1–12; Ephesians 5:21–33; 1 Corinthians 11:2–16; 1 Peter 2:18, and more! Phil brings in conversations from the first century and explains some of the complexities to the whole translation process as it impacts the lives of girls, women, and their communities worldwide.   

  

Guest Bio:   Philip B. Payne (Ph.D. University of Cambridge) has taught New Testament in colleges like the University of Cambridge, Trinity Evangelical Theological Seminary, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, Bethel Seminary, and Fuller Theological Seminary. He is an expert on women in the Bible and Codex Vaticanus. His books include Man and Woman, One in Christ, Why Can’t Women Do That? and The Bible vs. Biblical Womanhood: How God’s Word Consistently Affirms Gender Equality. He and his wife Nancy were missionaries in Japan. Their three children and six grandchildren all love the Lord.   

  

Resources by Dr. Philip B. Payne:  

CBE resources by Philip B. Payne    Follow @philipbpayne on Twitter!   

Click to visit a list of resources by Dr. Philip B. Payne.    

The Christian Post articles by Philip B. Payne: 

   Disclaimer:   The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]>  

Dr. Philip B. Payne is a key member of CBE’s Bible Translation Team. He was active and instrumental from the very start! During episodes one and two, Mimi and Phil explore the important translation decisions of the New Testament team on difficult texts such as 1 Timothy 2:11–15, 3:1–12; Ephesians 5:21–33; 1 Corinthians 11:2–16; 1 Peter 2:18, and more! Phil brings in conversations from the first century and explains some of the complexities to the whole translation process as it impacts the lives of girls, women, and their communities worldwide.   

  

Guest Bio:  
Philip B. Payne (Ph.D. University of Cambridge) has taught New Testament in colleges like the University of Cambridge, Trinity Evangelical Theological Seminary, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, Bethel Seminary, and Fuller Theological Seminary. He is an expert on women in the Bible and Codex Vaticanus. His books include Man and Woman, One in Christ, Why Can’t Women Do That? and The Bible vs. Biblical Womanhood: How God’s Word Consistently Affirms Gender Equality. He and his wife Nancy were missionaries in Japan. Their three children and six grandchildren all love the Lord.   

  

Resources by Dr. Philip B. Payne:  

CBE resources by Philip B. Payne 
 
Follow @philipbpayne on Twitter! 
 

Click to visit a list of resources by Dr. Philip B. Payne.  
 

The Christian Post articles by Philip B. Payne: 

  
Disclaimer:  
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 1575 106 full (Women and Men Leading Together) An Irresistible Vision with Wendy Wilson (Women and Men Leading Together) An Irresistible Vision with Wendy Wilson https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-men-leading-together-an-irresistible-vision-with-wendy-wilson/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-men-leading-together-an-irresistible-vision-with-wendy-wilson/#comments Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:27:46 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/d02f4920-e94e-3489-92cd-6ae63f12b117 Wendy Wilson, mission advisor for the Development of Women for Missio Nexus, is convinced that women and men are designed for full and equal partnership in ministry, and it shows! In this episode, Wendy challenges the church to awaken to that vision, and she provides one way to get there: safe, experiential spaces to talk about the theology and practice of mixed-gender ministry partnership. Listen and be inspired—as Wendy notes, change is happening! 

 

Guest Bio: 

Having served in various capacities in leadership training ministry since 1984, Wendy’s great joy is envisioning and equipping women to participate fully in living out their design in the Image of God and in the grand calling of the Great Commission. With a BBA from Texas A&M University and an MABS from Dallas Theological Seminary, Wendy has led inter-mission and inter-confessional mentoring and equipping efforts for 30+ years, having lived and traveled abroad for many of those years. After serving for twenty-eight years with a pastoral training mission, with a focus on engaging women with shepherding gifts, she has served since 2012 as the mission advisor for Development of Women to the Missio Nexus network of mission agencies, and as the founder and executive director of the collaborative Women’s Development Track. 

 

More info on Missio Nexus and Wendy’s ministry: 

 

Missio Nexus 

Women's Development Track 

 

Other Resources:   

CBE eLearning Course: Beyond Bias: Aligning towards God’s Vision for Women and Men in Bible Translation 

 

The Ministry of Women in the New Testament: Reclaiming the Biblical Vision for Church Leadership 

 

How to Teach Mutuality to the Next Generation 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> Wendy Wilson, mission advisor for the Development of Women for Missio Nexus, is convinced that women and men are designed for full and equal partnership in ministry, and it shows! In this episode, Wendy challenges the church to awaken to that vision, and she provides one way to get there: safe, experiential spaces to talk about the theology and practice of mixed-gender ministry partnership. Listen and be inspired—as Wendy notes, change is happening! 

 

Guest Bio: 

Having served in various capacities in leadership training ministry since 1984, Wendy’s great joy is envisioning and equipping women to participate fully in living out their design in the Image of God and in the grand calling of the Great Commission. With a BBA from Texas A&M University and an MABS from Dallas Theological Seminary, Wendy has led inter-mission and inter-confessional mentoring and equipping efforts for 30+ years, having lived and traveled abroad for many of those years. After serving for twenty-eight years with a pastoral training mission, with a focus on engaging women with shepherding gifts, she has served since 2012 as the mission advisor for Development of Women to the Missio Nexus network of mission agencies, and as the founder and executive director of the collaborative Women’s Development Track. 

 

More info on Missio Nexus and Wendy’s ministry: 

 

Missio Nexus 

Women's Development Track 

 

Other Resources: 
 

CBE eLearning Course: Beyond Bias: Aligning towards God’s Vision for Women and Men in Bible Translation 

 

The Ministry of Women in the New Testament: Reclaiming the Biblical Vision for Church Leadership 

 

How to Teach Mutuality to the Next Generation 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

]]> CBE International false No 1990 105 full (New Voices) “She Deserves Better” with Sheila Wray Gregoire (New Voices) “She Deserves Better” with Sheila Wray Gregoire https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-she-deserves-better-with-sheila-wray-gregoire/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-she-deserves-better-with-sheila-wray-gregoire/#comments Sat, 15 Jul 2023 09:15:41 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/b781c42c-9b9f-305c-b049-0d6e0ee9dfd1 What are the messages the church sends to girls and women about modesty, sex, emotions, and self, producing as they grow up? Blake and Erin talk with Sheila Gregoire about her book: She Deserves Better: Raising Girls to Resist Toxic Teachings on Sex, Self, And Speaking Up. This discussion unpacks the damage being done and how we combat it to raise women and girls and our churches to love Jesus without the toxic culture that is breaking them down.  

  

Bio  

Sheila Wray Gregoire is the face behind BareMarriage.com, and a sought-after speaker, podcast host, and author. Sheila is passionate about changing the evangelical conversation about sex and marriage to line up with kingdom principles. She lives in Ontario, Canada, with her husband. They have two adult daughters and two grandbabies. She is an award-winning author of nine books, including The Great Sex Rescue and She Deserves Better: Raising Girls to Resist Toxic Teachings on Sex, Self, And Speaking Up.  

  Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

  

Other Reading     

The Good News About Sex After Marriage: You Can Still Say “No” 

What I Wish the Church Had Told My Husband and Me About Sex and Consent 

We Need to Talk to Our Kids About Sexism at School: 4 Talking Points for Parents 

]]> What are the messages the church sends to girls and women about modesty, sex, emotions, and self, producing as they grow up? Blake and Erin talk with Sheila Gregoire about her book: She Deserves Better: Raising Girls to Resist Toxic Teachings on Sex, Self, And Speaking Up. This discussion unpacks the damage being done and how we combat it to raise women and girls and our churches to love Jesus without the toxic culture that is breaking them down.  

  

Bio  

Sheila Wray Gregoire is the face behind BareMarriage.com, and a sought-after speaker, podcast host, and author. Sheila is passionate about changing the evangelical conversation about sex and marriage to line up with kingdom principles. She lives in Ontario, Canada, with her husband. They have two adult daughters and two grandbabies. She is an award-winning author of nine books, including The Great Sex Rescue and She Deserves Better: Raising Girls to Resist Toxic Teachings on Sex, Self, And Speaking Up.  

 
Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

  

Other Reading   
 

The Good News About Sex After Marriage: You Can Still Say “No” 

What I Wish the Church Had Told My Husband and Me About Sex and Consent 

We Need to Talk to Our Kids About Sexism at School: 4 Talking Points for Parents 

]]> CBE International false No 1569 104 full (Women and Words) “I Tried To Prove Egalitarians Wrong” with Dr. Philip B. Payne (Women and Words) “I Tried To Prove Egalitarians Wrong” with Dr. Philip B. Payne https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-words-why-bible-translation-matters-pt-1/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-words-why-bible-translation-matters-pt-1/#comments Fri, 07 Jul 2023 16:32:36 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/16ac29d8-3cf2-3917-b0d3-34129e6e77de Dr. Philip B. Payne is a key member of CBE’s Bible Translation Team. He was active and instrumental from the very start! During episodes one and two, Mimi and Phil explore the important translation decisions of the New Testament team on difficult texts such as 1 Timothy 2:11–15, 3:1–12; Ephesians 5:21–33; 1 Corinthians 11:2–16; 1 Peter 2:18, and more! Phil brings in conversations from the first century and explains some of the complexities to the whole translation process as it impacts the lives of girls, women, and their communities worldwide.

Guest bio: Philip B. Payne (Ph.D. University of Cambridge) has taught New Testament in colleges like the University of Cambridge, Trinity Evangelical Theological Seminary, Gordon- Conwell Theological Seminary, Bethel Seminary, and Fuller Theological Seminary. He is an expert on women in the Bible and Codex Vaticanus. His books include Man and Woman, One in Christ, Why Can’t Women Do That? and The Bible vs. Biblical Womanhood: How God’s Word Consistently Affirms Gender Equality. He and his wife Nancy were missionaries in Japan. Their three children and six grandchildren all love the Lord.

Resources by Dr. Philip B. Payne:

CBE resources by Philip B. Payne

Follow @philipbpayne on Twitter!

Click to visit a list of resources by Dr. Philip B. Payne.

The Christian Post articles by Philip B. Payne:

  • Can women be pastors? What I discovered during 50 years of research.

  • Does 1 Timothy 2:12-15 prohibit women from teaching or having authority over men?

  • Does I Corinthians say women have to cover their heads?

  • What Ephesians 5really teaches about husband-wife submission

  • Mutual submission in 1 Peter 3:1-7: Husband submit to wife?

  • Is the 'order of creation' male authority Bible argument valid?

    Disclaimer: The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

]]> Dr. Philip B. Payne is a key member of CBE’s Bible Translation Team. He was active and instrumental from the very start! During episodes one and two, Mimi and Phil explore the important translation decisions of the New Testament team on difficult texts such as 1 Timothy 2:11–15, 3:1–12; Ephesians 5:21–33; 1 Corinthians 11:2–16; 1 Peter 2:18, and more! Phil brings in conversations from the first century and explains some of the complexities to the whole translation process as it impacts the lives of girls, women, and their communities worldwide.

Guest bio: Philip B. Payne (Ph.D. University of Cambridge) has taught New Testament in colleges like the University of Cambridge, Trinity Evangelical Theological Seminary, Gordon- Conwell Theological Seminary, Bethel Seminary, and Fuller Theological Seminary. He is an expert on women in the Bible and Codex Vaticanus. His books include Man and Woman, One in Christ, Why Can’t Women Do That? and The Bible vs. Biblical Womanhood: How God’s Word Consistently Affirms Gender Equality. He and his wife Nancy were missionaries in Japan. Their three children and six grandchildren all love the Lord.

Resources by Dr. Philip B. Payne:

CBE resources by Philip B. Payne

Follow @philipbpayne on Twitter!

Click to visit a list of resources by Dr. Philip B. Payne.

The Christian Post articles by Philip B. Payne:

  • Can women be pastors? What I discovered during 50 years of research.

  • Does 1 Timothy 2:12-15 prohibit women from teaching or having authority over men?

  • Does I Corinthians say women have to cover their heads?

  • What Ephesians 5really teaches about husband-wife submission

  • Mutual submission in 1 Peter 3:1-7: Husband submit to wife?

  • Is the 'order of creation' male authority Bible argument valid?

    Disclaimer:
    The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

]]> CBE International false No 1921 103 full (New Voices) Us Bearing God’s Image, Not God Bearing Ours with Dr. Lucy Peppiatt (New Voices) Us Bearing God’s Image, Not God Bearing Ours with Dr. Lucy Peppiatt https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-us-bearing-god-s-image-not-god-bearing-ours-with-dr-lucy-peppiatt/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-us-bearing-god-s-image-not-god-bearing-ours-with-dr-lucy-peppiatt/#comments Fri, 16 Jun 2023 08:49:05 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/70caf794-f043-3a47-9c8f-cee0fa2262ad Show Notes  

Both complementarians and egalitarians have cited the doctrine of the imago Dei in the early chapters of Genesis as a cornerstone for their theology on women and men. Blake and Erin talk with Dr. Lucy Peppiatt about her book: The Imago Dei: Humanity Made in the Image of God. In this discussion, Dr. Peppiatt skillfully breaks down complex theological arguments often weaponized against women, such as the eternal subordination of Christ and 1 Corinthians 11:7–9. Be sure to pick up the book (and others by Peppiatt) at the CBE bookstore and visit her college’s website for free resources that link to the podcast discussion and her books: https://wtctheology.org.uk/lucy-peppiatt/ 

 

 Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

Bio  

Author and instructor, Dr. Lucy Peppiatt has been Principal of WTC (Westminster Theological Centre) since 2013. She teaches courses in Christian doctrine and spiritual formation. She holds bachelor’s degrees in both English and Theology. She completed her MA in systematic theology at King’s College, London, and her PhD through the University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand. Lucy’s research interests are Christ and the Spirit, charismatic theology, theological anthropology, discipleship, 1 Corinthians, and women in the Bible. Lucy is part of Crossnet Anglican Church in Bristol. She is married to Nick Crawley, and they have four sons and four daughters-in-law. She is the author of several books such as Rediscovering Scripture's Vision for Women: Fresh Perspectives on Disputed Texts, Women and Worship at Corinth, Unveiling Paul’s Women: Making Sense of 1 Corinthians 11:2–16, and The Imago Dei: Humanity Made in the Image of God. 

]]> Show Notes  

Both complementarians and egalitarians have cited the doctrine of the imago Dei in the early chapters of Genesis as a cornerstone for their theology on women and men. Blake and Erin talk with Dr. Lucy Peppiatt about her book: The Imago Dei: Humanity Made in the Image of God. In this discussion, Dr. Peppiatt skillfully breaks down complex theological arguments often weaponized against women, such as the eternal subordination of Christ and 1 Corinthians 11:7–9. Be sure to pick up the book (and others by Peppiatt) at the CBE bookstore and visit her college’s website for free resources that link to the podcast discussion and her books: https://wtctheology.org.uk/lucy-peppiatt/ 

 

 Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

Bio  

Author and instructor, Dr. Lucy Peppiatt has been Principal of WTC (Westminster Theological Centre) since 2013. She teaches courses in Christian doctrine and spiritual formation. She holds bachelor’s degrees in both English and Theology. She completed her MA in systematic theology at King’s College, London, and her PhD through the University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand. Lucy’s research interests are Christ and the Spirit, charismatic theology, theological anthropology, discipleship, 1 Corinthians, and women in the Bible. Lucy is part of Crossnet Anglican Church in Bristol. She is married to Nick Crawley, and they have four sons and four daughters-in-law. She is the author of several books such as Rediscovering Scripture's Vision for Women: Fresh Perspectives on Disputed Texts, Women and Worship at Corinth, Unveiling Paul’s Women: Making Sense of 1 Corinthians 11:2–16, and The Imago Dei: Humanity Made in the Image of God. 

]]> CBE International false No 2135 102 full (Women and Words) Why Are There So Many Bible Translations? With Dr. Jeffrey Miller (Women and Words) Why Are There So Many Bible Translations? With Dr. Jeffrey Miller https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-why-are-there-so-many-bible-translations-with-dr-jeffrey-miller/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-why-are-there-so-many-bible-translations-with-dr-jeffrey-miller/#comments Fri, 02 Jun 2023 06:00:00 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/5f30be92-a28f-37c5-b729-92b7c40127dc Show Notes 

Have you ever wondered why there are so many different Bible translations? And which Bible translation is the “best” translation to use? On this episode of Mutuality Matters, Dr. Mimi Haddad and Dr. Jeffrey Miller answer these questions and discuss the two major theories of Bible translation: formal equivalence (word-for-word) and functional equivalence (phrase-for-phrase). Jeff also gives some fascinating insights into which theory they used and when in CBE’s Bible translation project! 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.    

 

Bio 

Jeff Miller is editor of CBE’s academic journal, Priscilla Papers. He holds bachelor’s degrees in pastoral ministry and church music, an MDiv, and a PhD in biblical interpretation. Since 1999 he has taught biblical studies at Milligan University in eastern Tennessee. He is a member of the Evangelical Theological Society and has published articles in journals such as The Bible Translator, Leaven, Restoration Quarterly, and Stone-Campbell Journal and CBE’s Mutuality. He and his wife Dana have two adult daughters and five grandchildren. For a list of resources by Jeff, visit CBE’s website here.  

Resources Cited 

  • Journals 
  • Books: 
  • Bible Translations cited during the Show: 

Bible Passages Cited 

  • Matthew 4:17: “From that time on Jesus began to preach, ‘Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.’” CEB 
  • Proverbs 31:23: “Her husband is known in the gates, When he sits among the elders of the land.” NASB 
  • Proverbs 31:31: “Give her the product of her hands, And let her works praise her in the gates.” NASB 
  • Luke 13:18-21: “So He was saying, “What is the kingdom of God like, and to what shall I compare it? It is like a mustard seed, which a man took and threw into his own garden; and it grew and became a tree, and the birds of the sky nested in its branches.” And again He said, “To what shall I compare the kingdom of God? It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three sata of flour until it was all leavened.” CEB 

Other Resources 

  • E-learning Courses: 
  • Videos 
  • Mutuality Matters Podcast 
  • Mutuality Magazine 
  • Mutuality Blog: 
  • Resources on Formal vs. Functional Equivalence: 
]]> Show Notes 

Have you ever wondered why there are so many different Bible translations? And which Bible translation is the “best” translation to use? On this episode of Mutuality Matters, Dr. Mimi Haddad and Dr. Jeffrey Miller answer these questions and discuss the two major theories of Bible translation: formal equivalence (word-for-word) and functional equivalence (phrase-for-phrase). Jeff also gives some fascinating insights into which theory they used and when in CBE’s Bible translation project! 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.    

 

Bio 

Jeff Miller is editor of CBE’s academic journal, Priscilla Papers. He holds bachelor’s degrees in pastoral ministry and church music, an MDiv, and a PhD in biblical interpretation. Since 1999 he has taught biblical studies at Milligan University in eastern Tennessee. He is a member of the Evangelical Theological Society and has published articles in journals such as The Bible Translator, Leaven, Restoration Quarterly, and Stone-Campbell Journal and CBE’s Mutuality. He and his wife Dana have two adult daughters and five grandchildren. For a list of resources by Jeff, visit CBE’s website here.  

Resources Cited 

  • Journals 
  • Books: 
  • Bible Translations cited during the Show: 

Bible Passages Cited 

  • Matthew 4:17: “From that time on Jesus began to preach, ‘Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.’” CEB 
  • Proverbs 31:23: “Her husband is known in the gates, When he sits among the elders of the land.” NASB 
  • Proverbs 31:31: “Give her the product of her hands, And let her works praise her in the gates.” NASB 
  • Luke 13:18-21: “So He was saying, “What is the kingdom of God like, and to what shall I compare it? It is like a mustard seed, which a man took and threw into his own garden; and it grew and became a tree, and the birds of the sky nested in its branches.” And again He said, “To what shall I compare the kingdom of God? It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three sata of flour until it was all leavened.” CEB 

Other Resources 

  • E-learning Courses: 
  • Videos 
  • Mutuality Matters Podcast 
  • Mutuality Magazine 
  • Mutuality Blog: 
  • Resources on Formal vs. Functional Equivalence: 
]]> CBE International false No 2085 101 full (Global Impact) IJM’s Fight Against Gender-Based Violence in Latin America with Brad Twedt (Global Impact) IJM’s Fight Against Gender-Based Violence in Latin America with Brad Twedt https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-ijm-s-fight-against-gender-based-violence-in-latin-america-with-brad-twedt/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-ijm-s-fight-against-gender-based-violence-in-latin-america-with-brad-twedt/#comments Fri, 26 May 2023 06:00:00 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/6c6c1fdd-a1fd-326a-b811-9620b1fe3941 Show Notes 

In this episode, Mimi and Kim interview Brad Twedt of International Justice Mission (IJM). Brad explains IJM’s work to address violence against women and children in the machismo culture of Central and South America. IJM works with the police departments, prosecutors, departments of justice, and local community anti-violence advocates to change the culture of violence against women. As they face powerful forces, they find that reliance on God in praise, supplication, and lament gives them the strength in their work. 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Bio 

Brad Twedt serves as executive vice president, global people support, at International Justice Mission (IJM). IJM is a nonprofit organization dedicated to protecting people in poverty from slavery and other forms of violence. A lawyer by training, Brad started his service at IJM as a volunteer Legal Fellow in Kampala, Uganda, and Guatemala City, Guatemala. He then stepped into over a decade of leadership in IJM’s Latin America region. He led IJM’s program aimed at violence against women and children in Central America as Guatemala country director and as Northern Triangle regional vice president. Brad and his wife, ReJean, returned to the US in 2022 after residing in Guatemala City for nearly eleven years. Brad received his JD from the Columbia University School of Law and joined IJM after a legal career in both New York City and Chicago. 

Contact Information 

IJM Website: https://www.ijm.org/our-work 

Brad Twedt: btwedt@ijm.org 

Resources  

Books Referenced in Interview by Gary Haugen:  

Good News About Injustice: A Witness of Courage in a Hurting World  

The Locust Effect: Why the End of Poverty Requires the End of Violence 

Book Review: Is There Any Good News About Injustice? By Victoria Peterson-Hilleque 

Mutuality Matters podcast referenced in Closing: (Intersectionality) Hope & Justice-Dismantling and Reconciling through the Psalms with Dr. Gabby Cudjoe-Wilkes 

Books by and about Katherine Bushnell referenced in closing:  

God’s Word to Women by Katharine Bushnell 

Daughters of Deliverance by Lorry Lutz 

The Queen’s Daughters by Lorry Lutz  

Read about the link between poverty and violence against women: Why Does Injustice Against Women Abound?  

]]> Show Notes 

In this episode, Mimi and Kim interview Brad Twedt of International Justice Mission (IJM). Brad explains IJM’s work to address violence against women and children in the machismo culture of Central and South America. IJM works with the police departments, prosecutors, departments of justice, and local community anti-violence advocates to change the culture of violence against women. As they face powerful forces, they find that reliance on God in praise, supplication, and lament gives them the strength in their work. 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Bio 

Brad Twedt serves as executive vice president, global people support, at International Justice Mission (IJM). IJM is a nonprofit organization dedicated to protecting people in poverty from slavery and other forms of violence. A lawyer by training, Brad started his service at IJM as a volunteer Legal Fellow in Kampala, Uganda, and Guatemala City, Guatemala. He then stepped into over a decade of leadership in IJM’s Latin America region. He led IJM’s program aimed at violence against women and children in Central America as Guatemala country director and as Northern Triangle regional vice president. Brad and his wife, ReJean, returned to the US in 2022 after residing in Guatemala City for nearly eleven years. Brad received his JD from the Columbia University School of Law and joined IJM after a legal career in both New York City and Chicago. 

Contact Information 

IJM Website: https://www.ijm.org/our-work 

Brad Twedt: btwedt@ijm.org 

Resources  

Books Referenced in Interview by Gary Haugen:  

Good News About Injustice: A Witness of Courage in a Hurting World  

The Locust Effect: Why the End of Poverty Requires the End of Violence 

Book Review: Is There Any Good News About Injustice? By Victoria Peterson-Hilleque 

Mutuality Matters podcast referenced in Closing: (Intersectionality) Hope & Justice-Dismantling and Reconciling through the Psalms with Dr. Gabby Cudjoe-Wilkes 

Books by and about Katherine Bushnell referenced in closing:  

God’s Word to Women by Katharine Bushnell 

Daughters of Deliverance by Lorry Lutz 

The Queen’s Daughters by Lorry Lutz  

Read about the link between poverty and violence against women: Why Does Injustice Against Women Abound?  

]]> CBE International false No 2267 100 full (New Voices) Pastors’ Wives and Medieval Religion with Dr. Beth Allison Barr (New Voices) Pastors’ Wives and Medieval Religion with Dr. Beth Allison Barr https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-pastors-wives-and-medieval-religion-with-dr-beth-allison-barr/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-pastors-wives-and-medieval-religion-with-dr-beth-allison-barr/#comments Fri, 12 May 2023 06:00:00 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/b52337d8-a844-344e-86a2-41e47713d01b Show Notes  

Why is history critical for how we understand theology? Author, professor, and historian Dr. Beth Allison Barr discusses her two new, forthcoming projects with Erin and Blake. Listeners get a front-row sneak peek into why the rise of the “pastor's wife” role affected women’s ordination and why medieval history needs to be rediscovered by Protestants for the sake of women and men in our churches. 

 

Bio  

Beth Allison Barr is the James Vardaman Professor of History at Baylor University. She earned her PhD in Medieval History from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and is the bestselling author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. She is also a pastor’s wife and mom of two great kids. She is currently working on two new publications: Becoming the Pastor’s Wife: The History of How Marriage (Not Ordination) Became Women’s Pathway to Ministry and Losing Our Medieval Religion: The Cost of Forgetting History for White Evangelical Christians.   

 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

  

 

Other Reading   

The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth 

  A Medieval Makeover: Women’s Roles Before and After the Reformation 

  The Pastoral Care of Women in Late Medieval England (Gender in the Middle Ages) 

]]> Show Notes  

Why is history critical for how we understand theology? Author, professor, and historian Dr. Beth Allison Barr discusses her two new, forthcoming projects with Erin and Blake. Listeners get a front-row sneak peek into why the rise of the “pastor's wife” role affected women’s ordination and why medieval history needs to be rediscovered by Protestants for the sake of women and men in our churches. 

 

Bio  

Beth Allison Barr is the James Vardaman Professor of History at Baylor University. She earned her PhD in Medieval History from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and is the bestselling author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. She is also a pastor’s wife and mom of two great kids. She is currently working on two new publications: Becoming the Pastor’s Wife: The History of How Marriage (Not Ordination) Became Women’s Pathway to Ministry and Losing Our Medieval Religion: The Cost of Forgetting History for White Evangelical Christians.   

 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

  

 

Other Reading   

The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth 

 
A Medieval Makeover: Women’s Roles Before and After the Reformation 

 
The Pastoral Care of Women in Late Medieval England (Gender in the Middle Ages) 

]]> CBE International false No 2243 99 full Women and Words: Why Bible Translation Matters” with Dr. Jeffrey Miller Women and Words: Why Bible Translation Matters” with Dr. Jeffrey Miller https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-why-bible-translation-matters-with-dr-jeffrey-miller/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-words-why-bible-translation-matters-with-dr-jeffrey-miller/#comments Fri, 05 May 2023 09:09:54 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/724ea03f-60bb-3796-9ffa-f5044741b001 Show Notes 

On this episode of Mutuality Matters, Dr. Mimi Haddad introduces the newest podcast thread, “Women and Words: Why Bible Translation Matters” with guest, Dr. Jeffrey Miller. Jeff gives listeners a window into the world of Bible translation and interpretation, and shares about CBE’s gender-accurate Bible translation team, their struggles, successes, and surprises. Learn about how you can support CBE’s Bible translation team here. 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.    

 

Bio 

Jeff Miller is editor of CBE’s academic journal, Priscilla Papers. He holds bachelor’s degrees in pastoral ministry and church music, an MDiv, and a PhD in biblical interpretation. Since 1999 he has taught biblical studies at Milligan University in eastern Tennessee. He is a member of the Evangelical Theological Society and has published articles in journals such as The Bible Translator, Leaven, Restoration Quarterly, and Stone-Campbell Journal and CBE’s Mutuality. He and his wife Dana have two adult daughters and two grandchildren. For a list of resources by Jeff, visit CBE’s website here.  

Resources Cited 

  • Journals 
  • Books: 
  • Bible Translations cited during the Show: 

 

Bible Passages Cited 

  • Genesis 2:18: The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable (ezer knegdo) for him.” NIV 
  • Mark 5:25:  And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years. NIV 
  • Hebrews 11:11: And by faith even Sarah, who was past childbearing age, was enabled to bear children because she considered him faithful who had made the promise. NIV 
  • Colossians 4:1: “Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven.” NIV 
  • 1 Timothy 2: 11-15: A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. NIV 
  • Isaiah 3:12: Youths oppress my people, women rule over them. My people, your guides lead you astray; they turn you from the path. NIV 
  • Ephesians 5:33: “However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.” NIV 

Other Resources 

Video: Gender-Accurate Bible Translation Panel 

Beyond Bias: Aligning towards God’s Vision for Women and Men in Bible Translation 

Intersectionality: Words Matter! Freedom through Lectionary and Bible Translation with Rev. Dr. Wilda C. Gafney 

]]> Show Notes 

On this episode of Mutuality Matters, Dr. Mimi Haddad introduces the newest podcast thread, “Women and Words: Why Bible Translation Matters” with guest, Dr. Jeffrey Miller. Jeff gives listeners a window into the world of Bible translation and interpretation, and shares about CBE’s gender-accurate Bible translation team, their struggles, successes, and surprises. Learn about how you can support CBE’s Bible translation team here. 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.    

 

Bio 

Jeff Miller is editor of CBE’s academic journal, Priscilla Papers. He holds bachelor’s degrees in pastoral ministry and church music, an MDiv, and a PhD in biblical interpretation. Since 1999 he has taught biblical studies at Milligan University in eastern Tennessee. He is a member of the Evangelical Theological Society and has published articles in journals such as The Bible Translator, Leaven, Restoration Quarterly, and Stone-Campbell Journal and CBE’s Mutuality. He and his wife Dana have two adult daughters and two grandchildren. For a list of resources by Jeff, visit CBE’s website here.  

Resources Cited 

  • Journals 
  • Books: 
  • Bible Translations cited during the Show: 

 

Bible Passages Cited 

  • Genesis 2:18: The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable (ezer knegdo) for him.” NIV 
  • Mark 5:25:  And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years. NIV 
  • Hebrews 11:11: And by faith even Sarah, who was past childbearing age, was enabled to bear children because she considered him faithful who had made the promise. NIV 
  • Colossians 4:1: “Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven.” NIV 
  • 1 Timothy 2: 11-15: A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. NIV 
  • Isaiah 3:12: Youths oppress my people, women rule over them. My people, your guides lead you astray; they turn you from the path. NIV 
  • Ephesians 5:33: “However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.” NIV 

Other Resources 

Video: Gender-Accurate Bible Translation Panel 

Beyond Bias: Aligning towards God’s Vision for Women and Men in Bible Translation 

Intersectionality: Words Matter! Freedom through Lectionary and Bible Translation with Rev. Dr. Wilda C. Gafney 

]]> CBE International false No 2043 98 full (Women and Men Leading Together) “Exchanging a Muzzle for a Microphone” with Rici and Phil Skei (Women and Men Leading Together) “Exchanging a Muzzle for a Microphone” with Rici and Phil Skei https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-men-leading-together-exchanging-a-muzzle-for-a-microphone-with-rici-and-phil-skei/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-men-leading-together-exchanging-a-muzzle-for-a-microphone-with-rici-and-phil-skei/#comments Fri, 28 Apr 2023 06:00:00 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/5dd084e7-13d9-345c-9494-c811fbcdbe7b Show Notes 

This month, Layla and Rob are joined by married co-pastors (and co-parents!) Rici and Phil Skei. Two themes emerged from the conversation. First, Rici shares her testimony of God speaking to her (while driving on the freeway!) about there being no limits on her ministry leadership. Second, the Skeis paint a compelling picture of joyful role flexibility, both in ministry and in the home.  

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.   

 

Bio 

Phil and Rici Skei are both natives of Fresno, California. They serve as co-pastors of On Ramps Covenant Church in their downtown Fresno neighborhood. In addition to pastoring alongside Rici, Phil works as the assistant director of planning and development for the City of Fresno where he oversees the development of affordable housing and homeless response. Phil received his bachelor of science degree from CSU Fresno, and his Master of Divinity degree from the Fresno Pacific Biblical Seminary (Fresno, California).  Rici holds a bachelor's degree in psychology and master's degree in education – both from Fresno Pacific University, as well as a master's degree in Christian Formation from North Park Theological Seminary. They are both ordained ministers with the Evangelical Covenant Church and are contributing authors to Out of Nazareth: Christ-Centered Civic Transformation in Unlikely Places. Additionally, Rici published, Let the People Worship, a 40-Day Devotional which is being used throughout the Country as a way to develop and invest in both English-speaking and Spanish-speaking worship leaders and praise teams. Rici and Phil have been married since 2001 and are the proud parents of two beautiful daughters. 

 

Listeners can reach Phil and Rici Skei at:  

Phil-Rici Skei on Facebook 

@philskei on Twitter  

@riciskei, @teamskei and @onrampschurch on Instagram 

 

Other Resources:  

 

My Ordination Story: A Calling Affirmed 

  Building Confidence in Your Calling: Overcoming the Inner Critic 

  No More Doubt: How I Finally Embraced My Ministry Calling 

]]> Show Notes 

This month, Layla and Rob are joined by married co-pastors (and co-parents!) Rici and Phil Skei. Two themes emerged from the conversation. First, Rici shares her testimony of God speaking to her (while driving on the freeway!) about there being no limits on her ministry leadership. Second, the Skeis paint a compelling picture of joyful role flexibility, both in ministry and in the home.  

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.   

 

Bio 

Phil and Rici Skei are both natives of Fresno, California. They serve as co-pastors of On Ramps Covenant Church in their downtown Fresno neighborhood. In addition to pastoring alongside Rici, Phil works as the assistant director of planning and development for the City of Fresno where he oversees the development of affordable housing and homeless response. Phil received his bachelor of science degree from CSU Fresno, and his Master of Divinity degree from the Fresno Pacific Biblical Seminary (Fresno, California).  Rici holds a bachelor's degree in psychology and master's degree in education – both from Fresno Pacific University, as well as a master's degree in Christian Formation from North Park Theological Seminary. They are both ordained ministers with the Evangelical Covenant Church and are contributing authors to Out of Nazareth: Christ-Centered Civic Transformation in Unlikely Places. Additionally, Rici published, Let the People Worship, a 40-Day Devotional which is being used throughout the Country as a way to develop and invest in both English-speaking and Spanish-speaking worship leaders and praise teams. Rici and Phil have been married since 2001 and are the proud parents of two beautiful daughters. 

 

Listeners can reach Phil and Rici Skei at:  

Phil-Rici Skei on Facebook 

@philskei on Twitter  

@riciskei, @teamskei and @onrampschurch on Instagram 

 

Other Resources:  

 

My Ordination Story: A Calling Affirmed 

 
Building Confidence in Your Calling: Overcoming the Inner Critic 

 
No More Doubt: How I Finally Embraced My Ministry Calling 

]]> CBE International false No 2979 97 full (New Voices) Ableism and Gender Roles with Kailey Bradley (New Voices) Ableism and Gender Roles with Kailey Bradley https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-ableism-and-gender-roles-with-kailey-bradley/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-ableism-and-gender-roles-with-kailey-bradley/#comments Fri, 14 Apr 2023 10:08:06 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/4b114afb-6d5f-366c-92b2-1c593e5f95a5 Show Notes  

How would a marriage partnership shift when one person contracts a chronic illness? How should we address complementarian standards of gender roles in the home when considering the limits of our spouses? In the Spring 2023 issue of Mutuality Magazine, grief counselor and professor, Kailey Bradley writes about these topics and then joins Erin and Blake for a conversation about Ableism, gender roles, and the interdependency of the gospel. 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

  

Bio  

Kailey earned her bachelor of arts from Mount Vernon Nazarene University in 2012 and finished her master's in clinical mental health counseling at Ashland Theological Seminary in 2015. Kailey has a background in hospice work and feels that companioning and advocating for grievers is her life’s passion. She is a counselor at Refuge Counseling and specializes in working with individuals of all ages, with special interest and care given to children’s bereavement, complicated grief, perinatal loss, and chronic illness. Kailey has completed training at the center for loss and life transition and is a licensed clinical thanatologist. Kailey is also an adjunct professor at Ashland Theological Seminary where she teaches grief and crisis counseling courses. She recently contributed an article to the Spring 2023 Issue of Mutuality Magazine titled, “Caregiving & Gender Equity in Interabled Relationships.” 

  

You can contact Kailey in the following ways: 

Kailey@allrefuge.com 

allrefuge.com 

 

 

Related Resources 

Caregiving and Gender Equity in Interabled Relationships 

In Sickness, Never Health: A Mutual Marriage 

Persevering with the Woman Who Bled for Twelve Years 

]]> Show Notes  

How would a marriage partnership shift when one person contracts a chronic illness? How should we address complementarian standards of gender roles in the home when considering the limits of our spouses? In the Spring 2023 issue of Mutuality Magazine, grief counselor and professor, Kailey Bradley writes about these topics and then joins Erin and Blake for a conversation about Ableism, gender roles, and the interdependency of the gospel. 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

  

Bio  

Kailey earned her bachelor of arts from Mount Vernon Nazarene University in 2012 and finished her master's in clinical mental health counseling at Ashland Theological Seminary in 2015. Kailey has a background in hospice work and feels that companioning and advocating for grievers is her life’s passion. She is a counselor at Refuge Counseling and specializes in working with individuals of all ages, with special interest and care given to children’s bereavement, complicated grief, perinatal loss, and chronic illness. Kailey has completed training at the center for loss and life transition and is a licensed clinical thanatologist. Kailey is also an adjunct professor at Ashland Theological Seminary where she teaches grief and crisis counseling courses. She recently contributed an article to the Spring 2023 Issue of Mutuality Magazine titled, “Caregiving & Gender Equity in Interabled Relationships.” 

  

You can contact Kailey in the following ways: 

Kailey@allrefuge.com 

allrefuge.com 

 

 

Related Resources 

Caregiving and Gender Equity in Interabled Relationships 

In Sickness, Never Health: A Mutual Marriage 

Persevering with the Woman Who Bled for Twelve Years 

]]> CBE International false No 1607 96 full (Global Impact) Women’s Health and Status in North Idea with Dr. Vandana Kant — Part Two (Global Impact) Women’s Health and Status in North Idea with Dr. Vandana Kant — Part Two https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-women-s-health-and-status-in-north-idea-with-dr-vandana-kant-%e2%80%94-part-two/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-women-s-health-and-status-in-north-idea-with-dr-vandana-kant-%e2%80%94-part-two/#comments Fri, 07 Apr 2023 11:14:02 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/1812f2d8-b94a-3b88-9414-6cb1181716db Show Notes 

In this episode, Mimi and Kim continue their conversation with Dr. Vandana Kant.  Inspired by the example of Jesus as shepherd, she and her team creatively seek out the sick, hurting, and shunned women to provide transformative love, care, and value.  After years of work that began in the 1990s with Dr. Aletta Bell, they are now beginning to see significant changes in the surrounding community. 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Bio: 

Dr. Vandana Kant, in addition to her medical degree, has a master’s in public health (MPH). For the past fifteen years she has been the project director for community health and development projects in North India. 

Contact Information 

Email: vandana@eha-health.org 

Learn More  

A video about Dr. Vandana Kant https://youtu.be/DqxNg9Cd3Aw   

Emmanuel Hospital Association: https://eha-health.org/ 

Duncan Hospital: https://duncanhospital-eha.org/ 

India’s Invisible Girl Project: https://invisiblegirlproject.org/ 

  Other Resources:  Part One: Global Impact: Women’s Health and Status in North India with Dr. Vandana Kant 

Helping Christians Set Trends for Oppressed Women in India: Ellen Alexander and Beulah Wood 

Woman in India: Her Choices, Struggles, and Destinations: Finny Philip 

]]> Show Notes 

In this episode, Mimi and Kim continue their conversation with Dr. Vandana Kant.  Inspired by the example of Jesus as shepherd, she and her team creatively seek out the sick, hurting, and shunned women to provide transformative love, care, and value.  After years of work that began in the 1990s with Dr. Aletta Bell, they are now beginning to see significant changes in the surrounding community. 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Bio: 

Dr. Vandana Kant, in addition to her medical degree, has a master’s in public health (MPH). For the past fifteen years she has been the project director for community health and development projects in North India. 

Contact Information 

Email: vandana@eha-health.org 

Learn More  

A video about Dr. Vandana Kant https://youtu.be/DqxNg9Cd3Aw   

Emmanuel Hospital Association: https://eha-health.org/ 

Duncan Hospital: https://duncanhospital-eha.org/ 

India’s Invisible Girl Project: https://invisiblegirlproject.org/ 

 
Other Resources: 
Part One: Global Impact: Women’s Health and Status in North India with Dr. Vandana Kant 

Helping Christians Set Trends for Oppressed Women in India: Ellen Alexander and Beulah Wood 

Woman in India: Her Choices, Struggles, and Destinations: Finny Philip 

]]> CBE International false No 2276 95 full (Global Impact) Women’s Health and Status in North India with Dr. Vandana Kant (Global Impact) Women’s Health and Status in North India with Dr. Vandana Kant https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-women-s-health-and-status-in-north-india-with-dr-vandana-kant/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-women-s-health-and-status-in-north-india-with-dr-vandana-kant/#comments Fri, 31 Mar 2023 09:14:27 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/d662db4d-7112-347d-976a-7587a856b828 Show Notes 

In this episode, Mimi and Kim interview Dr. Vandana Kant who describes the health outcomes of cultures that favor males. Inspired by the example of Jesus as shepherd, she and her team creatively seek out the sick, hurting, and shunned women to provide transformative love, care, and value. After years of work that began in the 1990s with Dr. Aletta Bell, they are now beginning to see significant changes in the surrounding community for girls and women. 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Bio 

Dr. Vandana Kant, in addition to her medical degree, has a master’s in public health (MPH). For the past fifteen years she has been the project director for community health and development projects in North India. 

 

Contact Information 

Email: vandana@eha-health.org 

 

Learn More  

A video about Dr. Vandana Kant https://youtu.be/DqxNg9Cd3Aw   

Emmanuel Hospital Association: https://eha-health.org/ 

Duncan Hospital: https://duncanhospital-eha.org/ 

India’s Invisible Girl Project: https://invisiblegirlproject.org/ 

 

Other Resources  

Read about the condition for women in India by Beulah Wood in A Theology of the Generations 

Listen to Helping Christians Set Trends for Oppressed Women in India: Ellen Alexander and Beulah Wood 

Listen to our Mutuality Matters Podcast Interview with Dr Bell - Founder of Raxaul Community Health & Development Project 

]]> Show Notes 

In this episode, Mimi and Kim interview Dr. Vandana Kant who describes the health outcomes of cultures that favor males. Inspired by the example of Jesus as shepherd, she and her team creatively seek out the sick, hurting, and shunned women to provide transformative love, care, and value. After years of work that began in the 1990s with Dr. Aletta Bell, they are now beginning to see significant changes in the surrounding community for girls and women. 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Bio 

Dr. Vandana Kant, in addition to her medical degree, has a master’s in public health (MPH). For the past fifteen years she has been the project director for community health and development projects in North India. 

 

Contact Information 

Email: vandana@eha-health.org 

 

Learn More  

A video about Dr. Vandana Kant https://youtu.be/DqxNg9Cd3Aw   

Emmanuel Hospital Association: https://eha-health.org/ 

Duncan Hospital: https://duncanhospital-eha.org/ 

India’s Invisible Girl Project: https://invisiblegirlproject.org/ 

 

Other Resources  

Read about the condition for women in India by Beulah Wood in A Theology of the Generations 

Listen to Helping Christians Set Trends for Oppressed Women in India: Ellen Alexander and Beulah Wood 

Listen to our Mutuality Matters Podcast Interview with Dr Bell - Founder of Raxaul Community Health & Development Project 

]]> CBE International false No 2003 94 full (Women and Men Leading Together) “I Wonder If It’s Already Happening?” with Rev. Elaine May (Women and Men Leading Together) “I Wonder If It’s Already Happening?” with Rev. Elaine May https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-men-leading-together-i-wonder-if-it-s-already-happening-with-rev-elaine-may/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-men-leading-together-i-wonder-if-it-s-already-happening-with-rev-elaine-may/#comments Fri, 24 Mar 2023 06:00:00 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/530bbb0d-1c6c-30da-97e3-29128f9dac72 Show Notes: 

 

Enjoying the podcast? Take our survey and help shape the future of Mutuality Matters! Go to cbe.today/podsurvey.  

 

This month, Rev. Elaine May joins Layla and Rob to share a hopeful vision for shared leadership in the context of God’s mission. Along the way, she shares a compelling list of practical tips, including emotional health and self-leadership, “gospel humility,” creating leadership pipelines that develop women into leaders, and intentionally modeling fruitful partnerships for the next generation.  

 

Bio:  

 

Rev. Elaine May is a ministry consultant with the Christian Reformed Church in North America. Elaine's consultation work focuses on the development of leaders who partner with God in his redemptive mission. She is graduating from Fuller Theological Seminary with her Doctor of Ministry in Lifelong Leadership Development this Spring. Elaine and her husband Greg have four emerging adults. The family's home base is in Grand Rapids, Michigan. 

 

To connect with Elaine, go to crcna.org/womensleadership. 

On Facebook: Elaine Van Til May 

 

Other Resources:    The Experiences of Women in Church and Denominational Leadership 

  Audio: Creating a Paradigm Shift in Denominational Practice  

  5 Definitive Signs A Church Is Invested In Women 

]]> Show Notes: 

 

Enjoying the podcast? Take our survey and help shape the future of Mutuality Matters! Go to cbe.today/podsurvey.  

 

This month, Rev. Elaine May joins Layla and Rob to share a hopeful vision for shared leadership in the context of God’s mission. Along the way, she shares a compelling list of practical tips, including emotional health and self-leadership, “gospel humility,” creating leadership pipelines that develop women into leaders, and intentionally modeling fruitful partnerships for the next generation.  

 

Bio:  

 

Rev. Elaine May is a ministry consultant with the Christian Reformed Church in North America. Elaine's consultation work focuses on the development of leaders who partner with God in his redemptive mission. She is graduating from Fuller Theological Seminary with her Doctor of Ministry in Lifelong Leadership Development this Spring. Elaine and her husband Greg have four emerging adults. The family's home base is in Grand Rapids, Michigan. 

 

To connect with Elaine, go to crcna.org/womensleadership. 

On Facebook: Elaine Van Til May 

 

Other Resources: 
 
The Experiences of Women in Church and Denominational Leadership 

 
Audio: Creating a Paradigm Shift in Denominational Practice  

 
5 Definitive Signs A Church Is Invested In Women 

]]> CBE International false No 1913 93 full (Intersectionality) Show Up to Love with Rev. Stephanie Wilkins (Intersectionality) Show Up to Love with Rev. Stephanie Wilkins https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-show-up-to-love-with-rev-stephanie-wilkins/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-show-up-to-love-with-rev-stephanie-wilkins/#comments Fri, 17 Mar 2023 06:00:00 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/d42d1365-3e27-30ca-a42e-9a7f72b92606 Show Notes 

When considering the call of Christ on every believer's life, Rev. Stephanie Wilkins condenses it down simply to showing up to love God and others well. She and Angela explore how an ethos rooted in Christ’s love for us propels Rev. Stephanie as an activist and an educator to show up in a broken world and bring forth positive change. Going into the public sphere as a “first responder” of moral agency follows the path of Jesus to go where the needs are greatest. Doing what Jesus did, this practical theologian will inspire you to show up to love.  

Enjoying the podcast? Take our survey and help shape the future of Mutuality Matters! Go to cbe.today/podsurvey. 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Bio 

Rev. Wilkins transitioned from educating children to a second career working to serve God through ministry when she answered her call in 2013. She graduated from Southern Methodist University Perkins School of Theology in 2018 with a Master of Arts in Ministry. She was ordained as a United Methodist Deacon in 2021. She is currently working on her Doctorate in Ministry at United Theological Seminary in Dayton, Ohio. Rev. Stephanie works in the area of Social Justice and Community Engagement. She is one of the Associate Pastors of St. John’s Downtown. She has been involved in organizing the Poor People’s Campaign, Black Voters Matter, Pure Justice (a criminal justice reform advocacy group), and the Houston Society for Change. Rev. Wilkins sees her call as one that follows the example of Christ. “Jesus was what I would call a “first responder;” Jesus went where the trouble was, and that is what I am called to do.” She believes in the scripture found in Matthew 25 which reads, “Whatever you did to the least of these my brothers and sisters, you did it to me.” To be on the side of the oppressed and to work to alleviate suffering is her call and she strives to answer it daily.  

 

Other Reading 

Educator and Visionary: A Profile of Mary McLeod Bethune 

Righteous Love: Making Space for Love Among Black Women 

Great Love: Reflections on Jesus’s Inclusion of the Unnamed Woman 

 

Means of Contacting  

 wecllc2007@gmail.com 

]]> Show Notes 

When considering the call of Christ on every believer's life, Rev. Stephanie Wilkins condenses it down simply to showing up to love God and others well. She and Angela explore how an ethos rooted in Christ’s love for us propels Rev. Stephanie as an activist and an educator to show up in a broken world and bring forth positive change. Going into the public sphere as a “first responder” of moral agency follows the path of Jesus to go where the needs are greatest. Doing what Jesus did, this practical theologian will inspire you to show up to love.  

Enjoying the podcast? Take our survey and help shape the future of Mutuality Matters! Go to cbe.today/podsurvey. 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Bio 

Rev. Wilkins transitioned from educating children to a second career working to serve God through ministry when she answered her call in 2013. She graduated from Southern Methodist University Perkins School of Theology in 2018 with a Master of Arts in Ministry. She was ordained as a United Methodist Deacon in 2021. She is currently working on her Doctorate in Ministry at United Theological Seminary in Dayton, Ohio. Rev. Stephanie works in the area of Social Justice and Community Engagement. She is one of the Associate Pastors of St. John’s Downtown. She has been involved in organizing the Poor People’s Campaign, Black Voters Matter, Pure Justice (a criminal justice reform advocacy group), and the Houston Society for Change. Rev. Wilkins sees her call as one that follows the example of Christ. “Jesus was what I would call a “first responder;” Jesus went where the trouble was, and that is what I am called to do.” She believes in the scripture found in Matthew 25 which reads, “Whatever you did to the least of these my brothers and sisters, you did it to me.” To be on the side of the oppressed and to work to alleviate suffering is her call and she strives to answer it daily.  

 

Other Reading 

Educator and Visionary: A Profile of Mary McLeod Bethune 

Righteous Love: Making Space for Love Among Black Women 

Great Love: Reflections on Jesus’s Inclusion of the Unnamed Woman 

 

Means of Contacting  

 wecllc2007@gmail.com 

]]> CBE International false No 2225 92 full (New Voices) Non-Toxic Masculinity with Zachary Wagner (New Voices) Non-Toxic Masculinity with Zachary Wagner https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-non-toxic-masculinity-with-zachary-wagner/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-non-toxic-masculinity-with-zachary-wagner/#comments Fri, 10 Mar 2023 22:24:59 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/23e0008a-46f8-3dbf-83db-57814002b89f Show Notes  

What does purity culture have to do with toxic masculinity? Author Zachary Wagner talks about his forthcoming book with Erin and Blake, Non-Toxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality. They discuss how both women and men are dehumanized by purity culture and toxic masculinity, and how Jesus and the gospel restores them both. Enjoying the podcast? Take our survey and help shape the future of Mutuality Matters! Go to cbe.today/podsurvey. 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

  

Bio  

Zachary Wagner is editorial director for the Center for Pastor Theologians. He is currently pursuing a PhD in New Testament at the University of Oxford. He lives in Oxford, England, with his wife and three children. He is the author of a new book coming out in April 2023 titled, Non-Toxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality.  

  

Related Resources 

  My Kingdom for a World of Such Men: 3 Hallmarks of Healthy Masculinity    The Tears of Men: The Emotional Masculinity of Jesus and Saint Francis 

 

Jesus’ Vision for Masculinity: The (Actual) Best A Man Can Get 

]]> Show Notes  

What does purity culture have to do with toxic masculinity? Author Zachary Wagner talks about his forthcoming book with Erin and Blake, Non-Toxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality. They discuss how both women and men are dehumanized by purity culture and toxic masculinity, and how Jesus and the gospel restores them both. Enjoying the podcast? Take our survey and help shape the future of Mutuality Matters! Go to cbe.today/podsurvey. 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

  

Bio  

Zachary Wagner is editorial director for the Center for Pastor Theologians. He is currently pursuing a PhD in New Testament at the University of Oxford. He lives in Oxford, England, with his wife and three children. He is the author of a new book coming out in April 2023 titled, Non-Toxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality.  

  

Related Resources 

 
My Kingdom for a World of Such Men: 3 Hallmarks of Healthy Masculinity 
 
The Tears of Men: The Emotional Masculinity of Jesus and Saint Francis 

 

Jesus’ Vision for Masculinity: The (Actual) Best A Man Can Get 

]]> CBE International false No 2268 91 full (Global Impact) Religious Gatekeeping and Egalitarian Leadership with Dr. Beth Birmingham (Global Impact) Religious Gatekeeping and Egalitarian Leadership with Dr. Beth Birmingham https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-religious-gatekeeping-and-egalitarian-leadership-with-dr-beth-birmingham/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-religious-gatekeeping-and-egalitarian-leadership-with-dr-beth-birmingham/#comments Fri, 03 Mar 2023 09:37:01 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/c40cc393-84cb-3ae2-a803-cab26c7ecb4d Show Notes 

In this episode, hosts Mimi and Kim continue their discussion with Dr. Beth Birmingham who explores egalitarian leadership in Christian humanitarian organizations. Birmingham gives clear insight into the day-to-day operations of Christian NGOs and reveals that their attempts at cultural sensitivity can lead to ignoring harmful patriarchal norms and gatekeeping women from leadership.  

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Bio 

Dr. Beth Birmingham is an author, speaker, and chief facilitator for The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development. As a previous full-time professor at Eastern University, she’s spent 25 years developing leaders for and serving in global development organizations, work that has taken her to over 30 countries. She is the co-author of Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive (IVP, 2022) and past publications on NGO Partnerships, including Shared Strength (Compassion Press, 2010). Beth is a member of the Wheaton Consortium for Development, Gender, and Christianity. Beth holds a PhD in Leadership and Change from Antioch University, and an MBA in International Economic Development from Eastern University. 

Contact Information 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethbirmingham 

Email: Beth@the-christianalliance.org 

Learn More about Dr. Birmingham 

https://www.cbeinternational.org/person/beth-birmingham/ 

https://www.eastern.edu/beth-birmingham 

https://www.ivpress.com/beth-birmingham 

https://www.tearfundusa.org/beth_birmingham 

 

Resources  

Read Dr. Beth Birmingham’s book, Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive.  

Read a preview to Beth’s CBE International 2022 Conference Presentation, Speaker Highlight: Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard. 

Watch Beth’s CBE International 2022 Conference Presentation, Video: Creating Cultures of Belonging: Creating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive. 

Listen to our Mutuality Matters Podcast Interview with Ron and Arbutus Sider. 

]]> Show Notes 

In this episode, hosts Mimi and Kim continue their discussion with Dr. Beth Birmingham who explores egalitarian leadership in Christian humanitarian organizations. Birmingham gives clear insight into the day-to-day operations of Christian NGOs and reveals that their attempts at cultural sensitivity can lead to ignoring harmful patriarchal norms and gatekeeping women from leadership.  

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Bio 

Dr. Beth Birmingham is an author, speaker, and chief facilitator for The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development. As a previous full-time professor at Eastern University, she’s spent 25 years developing leaders for and serving in global development organizations, work that has taken her to over 30 countries. She is the co-author of Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive (IVP, 2022) and past publications on NGO Partnerships, including Shared Strength (Compassion Press, 2010). Beth is a member of the Wheaton Consortium for Development, Gender, and Christianity. Beth holds a PhD in Leadership and Change from Antioch University, and an MBA in International Economic Development from Eastern University. 

Contact Information 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethbirmingham 

Email: Beth@the-christianalliance.org 

Learn More about Dr. Birmingham 

https://www.cbeinternational.org/person/beth-birmingham/ 

https://www.eastern.edu/beth-birmingham 

https://www.ivpress.com/beth-birmingham 

https://www.tearfundusa.org/beth_birmingham 

 

Resources  

Read Dr. Beth Birmingham’s book, Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive.  

Read a preview to Beth’s CBE International 2022 Conference Presentation, Speaker Highlight: Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard. 

Watch Beth’s CBE International 2022 Conference Presentation, Video: Creating Cultures of Belonging: Creating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive. 

Listen to our Mutuality Matters Podcast Interview with Ron and Arbutus Sider. 

]]> CBE International false No 2232 90 full (Women and Men Leading Together) Making it Work, in Ministry and at Home with Amy and Mac Smith (Women and Men Leading Together) Making it Work, in Ministry and at Home with Amy and Mac Smith https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-men-leading-together-making-it-work-in-ministry-and-at-home-with-amy-and-mac-smith/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-and-men-leading-together-making-it-work-in-ministry-and-at-home-with-amy-and-mac-smith/#comments Fri, 24 Feb 2023 06:00:00 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/74789357-06f9-3217-894f-f30efde61034 Show Notes 

 

This month Layla and Rob chat with Amy and Mac Smith, married campus ministers. The Smiths help us think through the nitty gritty details of partnership in ministry and in marriage. How do they make it work? They’re super intentional! Listeners will be inspired (and challenged!) by their example of abundant communication, working through power differentials, being purposeful with modeling, taking gifting seriously, and even resolving conflict publicly! 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Bio 

 

Amy and Mac Smith have been on staff with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship for twenty-five years. Amy is a regional ministry director for InterVarsity in the Rocky Mountain Region and Mac is a senior area ministry director for InterVarsity in Northern Utah. Amy and Mac spent nine years leading ministry in Reno, Nevada, where they built one of the largest InterVarsity chapters in the country and saw hundreds of students come to faith and developed many students into lifelong Christian leaders. In 2007 they moved to Utah where at the time there was just a handful of students on two campuses and now fifteen years later there are over 400 students involved with InterVarsity from every campus in the state of Utah.  Amy and Mac live in Ogden, Utah, with their two boys—Gabe, 17, and Hudson, 14. 

 

If listeners would like to connect… 

Mac’s email: mac.smith@intervarsity.org 

Amy’s email: amy.smith@intervarsity.org 

 

Related Resources  

Strategies for an Equal Marriage in the Midst of Unequal Career Demands 

Women and Men Leading Together: Living as the Beloved Community with Drs. Quentin and Cindy Kinnison 

Leading Together: Lessons from Sharing Leadership in Ministry and Marriage 

]]> Show Notes 

 

This month Layla and Rob chat with Amy and Mac Smith, married campus ministers. The Smiths help us think through the nitty gritty details of partnership in ministry and in marriage. How do they make it work? They’re super intentional! Listeners will be inspired (and challenged!) by their example of abundant communication, working through power differentials, being purposeful with modeling, taking gifting seriously, and even resolving conflict publicly! 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Bio 

 

Amy and Mac Smith have been on staff with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship for twenty-five years. Amy is a regional ministry director for InterVarsity in the Rocky Mountain Region and Mac is a senior area ministry director for InterVarsity in Northern Utah. Amy and Mac spent nine years leading ministry in Reno, Nevada, where they built one of the largest InterVarsity chapters in the country and saw hundreds of students come to faith and developed many students into lifelong Christian leaders. In 2007 they moved to Utah where at the time there was just a handful of students on two campuses and now fifteen years later there are over 400 students involved with InterVarsity from every campus in the state of Utah.  Amy and Mac live in Ogden, Utah, with their two boys—Gabe, 17, and Hudson, 14. 

 

If listeners would like to connect… 

Mac’s email: mac.smith@intervarsity.org 

Amy’s email: amy.smith@intervarsity.org 

 

Related Resources  

Strategies for an Equal Marriage in the Midst of Unequal Career Demands 

Women and Men Leading Together: Living as the Beloved Community with Drs. Quentin and Cindy Kinnison 

Leading Together: Lessons from Sharing Leadership in Ministry and Marriage 

]]> CBE International false No 2560 89 full (Intersectionality) Rebels Follow Jesus with Rev. Dr. Susan K. Williams Smith (Intersectionality) Rebels Follow Jesus with Rev. Dr. Susan K. Williams Smith https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-rebels-follow-jesus-with-rev-dr-susan-k-williams-smith/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-rebels-follow-jesus-with-rev-dr-susan-k-williams-smith/#comments Sat, 18 Feb 2023 14:59:32 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/046dcd14-52e0-3362-9f2b-57c4658552e5 Show Notes 

If you say that you follow Jesus, then your life should reflect the teachings of Jesus. Angela and Dr. Susan K. Williams Smith discuss how the teachings of Jesus stood diametrically opposed to doctrines that support empire-building and oppressive power structures. Instead, we are called to love each other and to tend to the least of these within our society. The call to be a Christian is a call to a radical lifestyle that is not always popular but does usher in the reign of Christ on earth.   

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Bio 

Dr. Susan K. Williams Smith is an ordained minister, musician, writer, and activist living in Columbus, Ohio. She has written for the Washington Post and Huffington Post, as well as on her blog, Candid Observations. She currently serves as one of the tri-chairs for the Ohio Poor People’s Campaign: A National Call for Moral Revival. She also serves as national scribe for the African American Ministers’ Leadership Council (AAMLC), communications consultant for the Samuel DeWitt Proctor Conference, and is the founder of Crazy Faith Ministries. She is a graduate of Occidental College and Yale Divinity School and earned a DMin from United Theological Seminary. Her previous book, Crazy Faith: Ordinary People, Extraordinary Lives, was published by Judson Press. 

Means of Contacting  

Susan@sdpconference.info 

crazyfaithministries.org 

https://www.facebook.com/CandidObserver 

Twitter: @cassady2euca 

chapel@howard.edu 

 

Related Reading: 

Womanist Liberation for All    We Are Our Foremothers’ Wildest Dream   

Women in Scripture and Mission: Sojourner Truth    Audio: Recovering History: Antebellum Evangelical Feminist Voices in the Condemnation of Slavery 

]]> Show Notes 

If you say that you follow Jesus, then your life should reflect the teachings of Jesus. Angela and Dr. Susan K. Williams Smith discuss how the teachings of Jesus stood diametrically opposed to doctrines that support empire-building and oppressive power structures. Instead, we are called to love each other and to tend to the least of these within our society. The call to be a Christian is a call to a radical lifestyle that is not always popular but does usher in the reign of Christ on earth.   

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Bio 

Dr. Susan K. Williams Smith is an ordained minister, musician, writer, and activist living in Columbus, Ohio. She has written for the Washington Post and Huffington Post, as well as on her blog, Candid Observations. She currently serves as one of the tri-chairs for the Ohio Poor People’s Campaign: A National Call for Moral Revival. She also serves as national scribe for the African American Ministers’ Leadership Council (AAMLC), communications consultant for the Samuel DeWitt Proctor Conference, and is the founder of Crazy Faith Ministries. She is a graduate of Occidental College and Yale Divinity School and earned a DMin from United Theological Seminary. Her previous book, Crazy Faith: Ordinary People, Extraordinary Lives, was published by Judson Press. 

Means of Contacting  

Susan@sdpconference.info 

crazyfaithministries.org 

https://www.facebook.com/CandidObserver 

Twitter: @cassady2euca 

chapel@howard.edu 

 

Related Reading: 

Womanist Liberation for All 
 
We Are Our Foremothers’ Wildest Dream 
 

Women in Scripture and Mission: Sojourner Truth 
 
Audio: Recovering History: Antebellum Evangelical Feminist Voices in the Condemnation of Slavery 

]]> CBE International false No 1811 88 full (New Voices) Women and Authority in the Early Church with Dr. Nijay Gupta (New Voices) Women and Authority in the Early Church with Dr. Nijay Gupta https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-women-and-authority-in-the-early-church-with-dr-nijay-gupta/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-women-and-authority-in-the-early-church-with-dr-nijay-gupta/#comments Fri, 10 Feb 2023 06:00:00 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/cd4ede28-4d84-3ec8-acf8-71f5614b5841 Show Notes  

Did women hold positions of authority in the early church? Dr. Nijay Gupta talks with hosts Erin and Blake about his forthcoming book, Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church. Be sure to pick up Dr. Gupta’s book on March 14 and visit his blog, Crux Sola, https://www.patheos.com/blogs/cruxsola/ or follow him on Twitter @NijayKGupta or listen to his podcast: Slow Theology. 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

  

Bio  

Nijay K. Gupta (PhD, New Testament, University of Durham) is a professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary. Previously, he was a professor of New Testament at Portland Seminary, where he also oversaw the master's thesis program and advised doctoral students. He is the author of the book Tell Her Story, Worship That Makes Sense to Paul, and Prepare, Succeed, Advance: A Guidebook for Getting a PhD in Biblical Studies and Beyond along with Bible commentaries and over a dozen academic articles in theological journals.  

  

Related Resources   

Teach Us, Mary: The Authority of Women Teachers in the Church in Light of the Magnificat (Luke 1:46–55) 

Why Deborah Makes All the Difference 

Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church 

]]> Show Notes  

Did women hold positions of authority in the early church? Dr. Nijay Gupta talks with hosts Erin and Blake about his forthcoming book, Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church. Be sure to pick up Dr. Gupta’s book on March 14 and visit his blog, Crux Sola, https://www.patheos.com/blogs/cruxsola/ or follow him on Twitter @NijayKGupta or listen to his podcast: Slow Theology. 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

  

Bio  

Nijay K. Gupta (PhD, New Testament, University of Durham) is a professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary. Previously, he was a professor of New Testament at Portland Seminary, where he also oversaw the master's thesis program and advised doctoral students. He is the author of the book Tell Her Story, Worship That Makes Sense to Paul, and Prepare, Succeed, Advance: A Guidebook for Getting a PhD in Biblical Studies and Beyond along with Bible commentaries and over a dozen academic articles in theological journals.  

  

Related Resources   

Teach Us, Mary: The Authority of Women Teachers in the Church in Light of the Magnificat (Luke 1:46–55) 

Why Deborah Makes All the Difference 

Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church 

]]> CBE International false No 1780 87 full (Global Impact) Egalitarian Leadership in Christian Humanitarian Organizations with Dr. Beth Birmingham (Global Impact) Egalitarian Leadership in Christian Humanitarian Organizations with Dr. Beth Birmingham https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-egalitarian-leadership-in-christian-humanitarian-organizations-with-dr-beth-birmingham/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-egalitarian-leadership-in-christian-humanitarian-organizations-with-dr-beth-birmingham/#comments Fri, 03 Feb 2023 21:59:56 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/6c30a066-c625-3317-beeb-7beac8aed1e5 Show Notes 

In this episode, hosts Mimi and Kim interview Dr. Beth Birmingham who explores egalitarian leadership in Christian humanitarian organizations, discussing how their cultural, theological, and organizational perspectives often determine their commitment to egalitarian leadership. Birmingham combines a straight-forward analysis with personal faith and on-the-ground mentoring of women and men to provide a powerful lens into human flourishing in the nonprofit world. 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Bio 

Dr. Beth Birmingham is an author, speaker, and chief facilitator for The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development. As a previous full-time professor at Eastern University, she’s spent 25 years developing leaders for and serving in global development organizations, work that has taken her to over 30 countries. She is the co-author of Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive (IVP, 2022) and past publications on NGO Partnerships, including Shared Strength (Compassion Press, 2010). Beth is a member of the Wheaton Consortium for Development, Gender, and Christianity. Beth holds a PhD in Leadership and Change from Antioch University, and an MBA in International Economic Development from Eastern University. 

Contact Information 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethbirmingham 

Email: Beth@the-christianalliance.org 

Learn More about Dr. Birmingham 

https://www.cbeinternational.org/person/beth-birmingham/ 

https://www.eastern.edu/beth-birmingham 

https://www.ivpress.com/beth-birmingham 

https://www.tearfundusa.org/beth_birmingham 

 

Resources  

Read Dr. Beth Birmingham’s book, Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive.  

Read a preview to Beth’s CBE International 2022 Conference Presentation, Speaker Highlight: Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard. 

Watch Beth’s CBE International 2022 Conference Presentation, Video: Creating Cultures of Belonging: Creating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive. 

Listen to our Mutuality Matters Podcast Interview with Ron and Arbutus Sider. 

]]> Show Notes 

In this episode, hosts Mimi and Kim interview Dr. Beth Birmingham who explores egalitarian leadership in Christian humanitarian organizations, discussing how their cultural, theological, and organizational perspectives often determine their commitment to egalitarian leadership. Birmingham combines a straight-forward analysis with personal faith and on-the-ground mentoring of women and men to provide a powerful lens into human flourishing in the nonprofit world. 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Bio 

Dr. Beth Birmingham is an author, speaker, and chief facilitator for The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development. As a previous full-time professor at Eastern University, she’s spent 25 years developing leaders for and serving in global development organizations, work that has taken her to over 30 countries. She is the co-author of Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive (IVP, 2022) and past publications on NGO Partnerships, including Shared Strength (Compassion Press, 2010). Beth is a member of the Wheaton Consortium for Development, Gender, and Christianity. Beth holds a PhD in Leadership and Change from Antioch University, and an MBA in International Economic Development from Eastern University. 

Contact Information 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethbirmingham 

Email: Beth@the-christianalliance.org 

Learn More about Dr. Birmingham 

https://www.cbeinternational.org/person/beth-birmingham/ 

https://www.eastern.edu/beth-birmingham 

https://www.ivpress.com/beth-birmingham 

https://www.tearfundusa.org/beth_birmingham 

 

Resources  

Read Dr. Beth Birmingham’s book, Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive.  

Read a preview to Beth’s CBE International 2022 Conference Presentation, Speaker Highlight: Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard. 

Watch Beth’s CBE International 2022 Conference Presentation, Video: Creating Cultures of Belonging: Creating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive. 

Listen to our Mutuality Matters Podcast Interview with Ron and Arbutus Sider. 

]]> CBE International false No 2249 86 full (Women & Men Leading Together) Mutual (and Reciprocal!) Partnership with Rev. Dr. Erin Moniz and Father Matthew Aughtry (Women & Men Leading Together) Mutual (and Reciprocal!) Partnership with Rev. Dr. Erin Moniz and Father Matthew Aughtry https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-men-leading-together-mutual-and-reciprocal-partnership-with-rev-dr-erin-moniz-and-father-matthew-aughtry/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-men-leading-together-mutual-and-reciprocal-partnership-with-rev-dr-erin-moniz-and-father-matthew-aughtry/#comments Fri, 27 Jan 2023 09:04:37 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/8d76186b-a812-35d4-9299-944ff1e46465 Show Notes 

 

In this episode, Layla and Rob sit down with Rev. Dr. Erin Moniz and Father Matthew Aughtry to learn about their unique ministry partnership. During the week, Matthew works for Erin, but on the weekend the reverse is true! You’ll enjoy hearing Erin and Matthew talk about how a deep and vital friendship, an open-handed view of power, and a healthy dose of communication make their partnership thrive. 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Bio 

 

Filmmaker, priest, and chaplain. Before helping plant All Saints, Fr. Matthew Aughtry served the ACNA at Christ Church Waco and ACNA/C4SO at Resurrection Los Angeles. He works for Baylor University as a chaplain overseeing ministry to artists and working to foster a deeper imagination for God’s kingdom through various artistic mediums. He is also a Brehm Scholar in theology and film at Fuller Theological Seminary. He is married to Kathryn and they have two children, Ethan and Lucy Mae. On some weekends they can be found exploring Texas and beyond in their pop-up camper. 

 

Deacon Erin Moniz loves to disciple and create content for emerging adults. As a chaplain at Baylor University, she is active in spiritual formation, mentoring, discipleship, and programming for young adults. She is the co-host for the Mutuality Matters podcast and a trained conciliator. She and her husband, Michael, were married in 2005 and ever since, have been blessed to care for young people and live out the testimony of God's sanctifying work in relationships. When they are not narrating the inner monologue of their two cats, Erin and Michael love to hike, camp, watch movies, and partake of local fare with friends. Find Erin on social media @erinfmoniz, and her personal website is erinfmoniz.com. Sign up for her newsletter on her site! 

 

Learn more about Erin and Matthew and their church ministry by following @allsaintswaco on Instagram. 

 

Other Reading  

 

Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships  

 

Created to Thrive: Cultivating Abuse-Free Communities  

 

(Men & Women Leading Together) Creating Safe and Thriving Mixed-Gender Partnerships 

 

The Unavoidable Link Between Patriarchal Theology and Spiritual Abuse  

 

Theological Malpractice Stands Culpable in Sexual Abuse: Mitch Randall  

 

Kingdom-Based Diversity: Embracing the Priesthood of All Believers 

]]> Show Notes 

 

In this episode, Layla and Rob sit down with Rev. Dr. Erin Moniz and Father Matthew Aughtry to learn about their unique ministry partnership. During the week, Matthew works for Erin, but on the weekend the reverse is true! You’ll enjoy hearing Erin and Matthew talk about how a deep and vital friendship, an open-handed view of power, and a healthy dose of communication make their partnership thrive. 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Bio 

 

Filmmaker, priest, and chaplain. Before helping plant All Saints, Fr. Matthew Aughtry served the ACNA at Christ Church Waco and ACNA/C4SO at Resurrection Los Angeles. He works for Baylor University as a chaplain overseeing ministry to artists and working to foster a deeper imagination for God’s kingdom through various artistic mediums. He is also a Brehm Scholar in theology and film at Fuller Theological Seminary. He is married to Kathryn and they have two children, Ethan and Lucy Mae. On some weekends they can be found exploring Texas and beyond in their pop-up camper. 

 

Deacon Erin Moniz loves to disciple and create content for emerging adults. As a chaplain at Baylor University, she is active in spiritual formation, mentoring, discipleship, and programming for young adults. She is the co-host for the Mutuality Matters podcast and a trained conciliator. She and her husband, Michael, were married in 2005 and ever since, have been blessed to care for young people and live out the testimony of God's sanctifying work in relationships. When they are not narrating the inner monologue of their two cats, Erin and Michael love to hike, camp, watch movies, and partake of local fare with friends. Find Erin on social media @erinfmoniz, and her personal website is erinfmoniz.com. Sign up for her newsletter on her site! 

 

Learn more about Erin and Matthew and their church ministry by following @allsaintswaco on Instagram. 

 

Other Reading  

 

Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships  

 

Created to Thrive: Cultivating Abuse-Free Communities  

 

(Men & Women Leading Together) Creating Safe and Thriving Mixed-Gender Partnerships 

 

The Unavoidable Link Between Patriarchal Theology and Spiritual Abuse  

 

Theological Malpractice Stands Culpable in Sexual Abuse: Mitch Randall  

 

Kingdom-Based Diversity: Embracing the Priesthood of All Believers 

]]> CBE International false No 2103 85 full (Intersectionality) Hope & Justice – Dismantling and Reconciling through the Psalms (Intersectionality) Hope & Justice – Dismantling and Reconciling through the Psalms https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-hope-justice-%e2%80%93-dismantling-and-reconciling-through-the-psalms/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-hope-justice-%e2%80%93-dismantling-and-reconciling-through-the-psalms/#comments Sun, 22 Jan 2023 10:34:51 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/2ecb008b-e248-3148-9d3e-4ed058babef8 In this episode of Mutuality Matters, host Angela visits with Dr. Gabby Cudjoe-Wilkes to discuss how a justice imagination is necessary for people of color and everyone involved in the work of social justice as they navigate the daily realities that come with living in America. Gabby delves into how the Psalms provide a perfect expression of hope rooted and grounded in the faithfulness of God despite one’s current circumstances. She describes hope as an act of resistance as we imagine a future that aligns with God’s vision of kingdom life in this earthly realm.  

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Bio 

Dr. Gabby Cudjoe-Wilkes is a pastor, leader, innovation strategist and author. She is a strategist by training and is the founding-co lead pastor of The Double Love Experience Church in Brooklyn, New York. Her work has been featured in Essence, Forbes, and The New York Times. She is the co-author of Psalms for Black Lives: Reflections for the Work of Liberation. Dr. Gabby holds a doctorate from Duke University, a master of divinity from Yale University, a master of arts from NYU, and a bachelor’s degree from Hampton University. She is the vice president of the Yale Divinity School Alumni Board and a member of the Morehouse College MLK Board of Preachers. Dr. Gabby is a proud member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority incorporated and is committed to the work of love and justice. 

Connect with Dr. Gabby Cudjoe-Wilkes: 

www.gabbycudjoewilkes.com 

@PastorGabbyCWilkes (IG) & @GabbyCWilkes (Twitter).  

]]> In this episode of Mutuality Matters, host Angela visits with Dr. Gabby Cudjoe-Wilkes to discuss how a justice imagination is necessary for people of color and everyone involved in the work of social justice as they navigate the daily realities that come with living in America. Gabby delves into how the Psalms provide a perfect expression of hope rooted and grounded in the faithfulness of God despite one’s current circumstances. She describes hope as an act of resistance as we imagine a future that aligns with God’s vision of kingdom life in this earthly realm.  

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Bio 

Dr. Gabby Cudjoe-Wilkes is a pastor, leader, innovation strategist and author. She is a strategist by training and is the founding-co lead pastor of The Double Love Experience Church in Brooklyn, New York. Her work has been featured in Essence, Forbes, and The New York Times. She is the co-author of Psalms for Black Lives: Reflections for the Work of Liberation. Dr. Gabby holds a doctorate from Duke University, a master of divinity from Yale University, a master of arts from NYU, and a bachelor’s degree from Hampton University. She is the vice president of the Yale Divinity School Alumni Board and a member of the Morehouse College MLK Board of Preachers. Dr. Gabby is a proud member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority incorporated and is committed to the work of love and justice. 

Connect with Dr. Gabby Cudjoe-Wilkes: 

www.gabbycudjoewilkes.com 

@PastorGabbyCWilkes (IG) & @GabbyCWilkes (Twitter).  

]]> CBE International false No 2320 84 full (New Voices) The Gender of God with Dr. Amy Peeler (New Voices) The Gender of God with Dr. Amy Peeler https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-the-gender-of-god-with-dr-amy-peeler/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-the-gender-of-god-with-dr-amy-peeler/#comments Fri, 13 Jan 2023 07:40:02 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/dffb744b-3399-3f23-b9a1-134f9b541e1f Show Notes  

What are the implications of assigning the male gender to God? If God isn’t male, then why do we call God “Father”? Blake & Erin speak with Dr. Amy Peeler about her new book, Women and the Gender of God. Listen as they discuss the significance of the incarnation, Mary, the Mother of Jesus, and much more! You can pick up her book here. Follow her on social media at @albpeeler and visit her website to learn more: https://amypeeler.com/ 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

  

Bio  

Amy Peeler is associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College and associate rector at St. Mark's Episcopal Church in Geneva, Illinois. She is the author of You Are My Son: The Family of God in the Epistle to the Hebrews and the coauthor, with Patrick Gray, of Hebrews: An Introduction and Study Guide. Most recently, Dr. Peeler published her book Women and the Gender of God. 

  

Other Reading      Imagining a Feminine God: Gendered Imagery in the Bible - CBE International 

  

Vindicating the Vixens: Revisiting Sexualized, Vilified, and Marginalized Women of the Bible: Sandra Glahn: 9780825444135 - CBE International with Christianbook.com   

Icons of Christ: A Biblical and Systematic Theology for Women's Ordination 

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What are the implications of assigning the male gender to God? If God isn’t male, then why do we call God “Father”? Blake & Erin speak with Dr. Amy Peeler about her new book, Women and the Gender of God. Listen as they discuss the significance of the incarnation, Mary, the Mother of Jesus, and much more! You can pick up her book here. Follow her on social media at @albpeeler and visit her website to learn more: https://amypeeler.com/ 

 

Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

  

Bio  

Amy Peeler is associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College and associate rector at St. Mark's Episcopal Church in Geneva, Illinois. She is the author of You Are My Son: The Family of God in the Epistle to the Hebrews and the coauthor, with Patrick Gray, of Hebrews: An Introduction and Study Guide. Most recently, Dr. Peeler published her book Women and the Gender of God. 

  

Other Reading   
 
Imagining a Feminine God: Gendered Imagery in the Bible - CBE International 

  

Vindicating the Vixens: Revisiting Sexualized, Vilified, and Marginalized Women of the Bible: Sandra Glahn: 9780825444135 - CBE International with Christianbook.com 
 

Icons of Christ: A Biblical and Systematic Theology for Women's Ordination 

]]> CBE International false No 1893 83 full (Global Impact) Partnering in East Africa to Bring Human Flourishing with Deborah Asio (Global Impact) Partnering in East Africa to Bring Human Flourishing with Deborah Asio https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-partnering-in-east-africa-to-bring-human-flourishing-with-deborah-asio/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-partnering-in-east-africa-to-bring-human-flourishing-with-deborah-asio/#comments Fri, 06 Jan 2023 06:00:00 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/de0aa619-4da9-3443-8302-fa2ef1673302 Show Notes 

In this episode, Mimi and Kim discuss CBE’s partnerships in East Africa with Deborah Asio. Deborah, as CBE’s liaison and a partner herself, reveals how highlighting the women of Scripture as powerful examples inspires women and men in East Africa to champion equality and mutuality for the flourishing of all. This work takes on the practical challenges of women’s economics and illiteracy that enables abuse in a patriarchal society, by providing menstruation kits to girls so they can attend school, and by training up male champions of women’s equality. 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Bio 

Deborah Asio is an organizational development professional with NGO experience who oversees CBE’s Africa partner projects. Deborah represents CBE and actively looks for opportunities to expand CBE’s social impact with new partners. Deborah holds workshops to train pastors, gives reproductive health talks to build girls’ agency as made in God’s image, provides Bible-based psychosocial support to women in refugee camps, and conducts male ally/champion classes so they can become Bible-inspired change agents to advocate with other men to end injustices for girls and women. 

 

Other Reading  

CBE’s Still Side-by-Side, available in many languages Learn more about CBE’s Partners in East Africa: Partnering in Africa - CBE International 

Listen to “A Lie Long Planted: Unearthing the Deep Roots of Gender Based Injustice” by Medad Birungi 

Listen to Mutuality Matters podcast interview with Emily Onyango to better understand the East African situation for girls and women. 

  Listen to Terran Williams on patriarchy in South Africa: (New Voices) How Complementarianism Just Makes No Sense with Terran Williams | Mutuality Matters (podbean.com) 

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In this episode, Mimi and Kim discuss CBE’s partnerships in East Africa with Deborah Asio. Deborah, as CBE’s liaison and a partner herself, reveals how highlighting the women of Scripture as powerful examples inspires women and men in East Africa to champion equality and mutuality for the flourishing of all. This work takes on the practical challenges of women’s economics and illiteracy that enables abuse in a patriarchal society, by providing menstruation kits to girls so they can attend school, and by training up male champions of women’s equality. 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Bio 

Deborah Asio is an organizational development professional with NGO experience who oversees CBE’s Africa partner projects. Deborah represents CBE and actively looks for opportunities to expand CBE’s social impact with new partners. Deborah holds workshops to train pastors, gives reproductive health talks to build girls’ agency as made in God’s image, provides Bible-based psychosocial support to women in refugee camps, and conducts male ally/champion classes so they can become Bible-inspired change agents to advocate with other men to end injustices for girls and women. 

 

Other Reading  

CBE’s Still Side-by-Side, available in many languages

Learn more about CBE’s Partners in East Africa: Partnering in Africa - CBE International 

Listen to “A Lie Long Planted: Unearthing the Deep Roots of Gender Based Injustice” by Medad Birungi 

Listen to Mutuality Matters podcast interview with Emily Onyango to better understand the East African situation for girls and women. 

 
Listen to Terran Williams on patriarchy in South Africa: (New Voices) How Complementarianism Just Makes No Sense with Terran Williams | Mutuality Matters (podbean.com) 

]]> CBE International false No 2390 82 full (Women & Men) We’re Better Together with Beth Eckloff-Paz (Women & Men) We’re Better Together with Beth Eckloff-Paz https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-men-we-re-better-together-with-beth-eckloff-paz/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-men-we-re-better-together-with-beth-eckloff-paz/#comments Fri, 23 Dec 2022 09:46:52 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/bedce433-9dda-379f-994a-d64d9f7f0ba5 Show Notes 

This month, Layla and Rob sit down with one of their favorite preachers, Beth Eckloff-Paz. Drawing on her eighteen years of ministry experience, Beth clearly describes the challenges she’s faced as a woman in ministry, she lays out a clear picture of what partnerships look like, and she casts a vision for how “the fullness of God is present in the both/and” of women and men partnering together. You’ll love learning from this bold and courageous leader! 

Bio 

Beth Eckloff-Paz has dedicated her life to mobilizing the next generation of leaders to live out the gospel and join God’s mission of justice and righteousness. She is currently pastoring college students and young adults at Lake Avenue Church in Pasadena, California. 

Beth is a passionate communicator of the gospel and preaches at conferences and churches across the United States and internationally. She graduated from Fuller Theological Seminary with a Master of Divinity. During her time at Fuller, she received the 2018 Hooper–Keefe Preaching Award and the prestigious Parish Pulpit Fellowship (2019-2020) where she lived internationally in Guatemala and Albania. Beth also co-directs the PreacHER Academy, an online, synchronous, seminary-level learning experience. For more information and to apply for the next cohort, click here. 

Beth has traveled to over thirty countries and served as a North American delegate for the Lausanne 2016 Younger Leaders Movement (YLG 2016). She enjoys coffee, gardening succulents, boxing, and reading. With eighteen years of full-time ministry experience, she continues to cultivate and build the kingdom of God with joy. See more of Beth’s story and listen to one of her sermons HERE. 

Reach out to Beth at bethpaz.com or on Instagram @sojournerpaz 

Other Reading  

Better Together by Danielle Strickland  

Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships 

Leading Together: Lessons From Sharing Leadership in Ministry and Marriage 

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This month, Layla and Rob sit down with one of their favorite preachers, Beth Eckloff-Paz. Drawing on her eighteen years of ministry experience, Beth clearly describes the challenges she’s faced as a woman in ministry, she lays out a clear picture of what partnerships look like, and she casts a vision for how “the fullness of God is present in the both/and” of women and men partnering together. You’ll love learning from this bold and courageous leader! 

Bio 

Beth Eckloff-Paz has dedicated her life to mobilizing the next generation of leaders to live out the gospel and join God’s mission of justice and righteousness. She is currently pastoring college students and young adults at Lake Avenue Church in Pasadena, California. 

Beth is a passionate communicator of the gospel and preaches at conferences and churches across the United States and internationally. She graduated from Fuller Theological Seminary with a Master of Divinity. During her time at Fuller, she received the 2018 Hooper–Keefe Preaching Award and the prestigious Parish Pulpit Fellowship (2019-2020) where she lived internationally in Guatemala and Albania. Beth also co-directs the PreacHER Academy, an online, synchronous, seminary-level learning experience. For more information and to apply for the next cohort, click here. 

Beth has traveled to over thirty countries and served as a North American delegate for the Lausanne 2016 Younger Leaders Movement (YLG 2016). She enjoys coffee, gardening succulents, boxing, and reading. With eighteen years of full-time ministry experience, she continues to cultivate and build the kingdom of God with joy. See more of Beth’s story and listen to one of her sermons HERE. 

Reach out to Beth at bethpaz.com or on Instagram @sojournerpaz 

Other Reading  

Better Together by Danielle Strickland  

Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships 

Leading Together: Lessons From Sharing Leadership in Ministry and Marriage 

]]> CBE International false No 2128 81 full (Intersectionality) Gifted to Lead with Dr. Jeanne Porter King (Intersectionality) Gifted to Lead with Dr. Jeanne Porter King https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-gifted-to-lead-with-dr-jeanne-porter-king/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-gifted-to-lead-with-dr-jeanne-porter-king/#comments Fri, 16 Dec 2022 08:39:53 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/551c43c8-845f-3e13-bc9b-2e9b311f07c2 Show Notes 

Most would agree that organizational performance is often a reflection of the quality of leadership guiding the organization. Well, the same is true for ministry. Dr. Jeanne Porter King sits with host Angela and shares the importance of leadership in ecclesial spaces. Together, they explore how the spiritual gift of leading is manifested by both women and men, how race and gender impact the way believers show up as leaders, and the ways by which the gift of leadership can and should be developed.   

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Bio 

Dr. Jeanne Porter King is an author, business leader, inspirational teacher, speaker, ministry leader, and board-certified coach. She is the founder and president of TransPorter Group, Inc., a consulting practice specializing in leadership development, and diversity, equity, and inclusion strategy and training. Dr. Jeanne has developed leadership programs and has trained and coached leaders in twenty different countries. She also serves as the executive pastor of Christ Community Church in South Holland, Illinois.  

Contact Information 

 Instagram: @drjeanneporterking    

Twitter: @drjeannepking 

 

Website: www.drjeanneporterking.com   

 

Resources  

  Inspiring the Leader Within  

 

https://jeanneporterking.com   

The Paradox of Power: 7 Leadership Strategies in the Age of #ChurchToo    How Can Churches Encourage Women Leaders? 

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Most would agree that organizational performance is often a reflection of the quality of leadership guiding the organization. Well, the same is true for ministry. Dr. Jeanne Porter King sits with host Angela and shares the importance of leadership in ecclesial spaces. Together, they explore how the spiritual gift of leading is manifested by both women and men, how race and gender impact the way believers show up as leaders, and the ways by which the gift of leadership can and should be developed.   

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Bio 

Dr. Jeanne Porter King is an author, business leader, inspirational teacher, speaker, ministry leader, and board-certified coach. She is the founder and president of TransPorter Group, Inc., a consulting practice specializing in leadership development, and diversity, equity, and inclusion strategy and training. Dr. Jeanne has developed leadership programs and has trained and coached leaders in twenty different countries. She also serves as the executive pastor of Christ Community Church in South Holland, Illinois.  

Contact Information 

 Instagram: @drjeanneporterking    

Twitter: @drjeannepking 

 

Website: www.drjeanneporterking.com 
 

 

Resources  

 
Inspiring the Leader Within  

 

https://jeanneporterking.com 
 

The Paradox of Power: 7 Leadership Strategies in the Age of #ChurchToo 
 
How Can Churches Encourage Women Leaders? 

]]> CBE International false No 2419 80 full (New Voices) Jesus and Women with Dr. Lynn Cohick (New Voices) Jesus and Women with Dr. Lynn Cohick https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-jesus-and-women-with-dr-lynn-cohick/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-jesus-and-women-with-dr-lynn-cohick/#comments Fri, 09 Dec 2022 10:42:19 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/fb62e8bd-c3f2-311d-8474-923503af635f Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.    Show Notes  CBE International’s Mutuality Magazine Winter Issue tackles the topic of Jesus and Women. To help us think deeply about this and how it affects our discipleship and reading of Scripture, Dr. Lynn Cohick comes on the podcast to talk with Erin and Blake.   Bio  Dr. Cohick presently serves as Provost and Dean of Academic Affairs of Northern Seminary in Lisle, Illinois. She teaches New Testament and is leading the development of DMin and MA programs in women's studies, and the Women's Center for Leadership at Northern Seminary. She has her bachelor’s degree from Messiah College, and a Ph.D. in New Testament and Christian Origins from the University of Pennsylvania. After 18 years as professor of New Testament and Biblical Studies at Wheaton College she accepted the invitation to join Denver Seminary as their Provost / Dean. Dr. Cohick has also taught at Messiah College and Nairobi Evangelical Graduate School of Theology. She is the author of Christian Women in the Patristic World: Their Influence, Authority, and Legacy in the Second Through Fifth Centuries, as well as Women in the World of the Earliest Christians, and commentaries on Phillipians and Ephesians among many other articles and publications. She contributed a chapter about Jesus and the Samaritan woman in Vindicating the Vixens: Revisiting Sexualized, Vilified, and Marginalized Women in the Bible. She enjoys preaching from the Bible, teaching on matters pertaining to women’s ministry, and exploring issues pertaining to the historical relationship between Jews and Christians.

Other Reading   Vindicating the Vixens: Revisiting Sexualized, Vilified, and Marginalized Women in the Bible. Christian Women in the Patristic World: Their Influence, Authority, and Legacy in the Second Through Fifth Centuries The Samaritan Woman's Story: Reconsidering John 4 After #ChurchToo Center for Women and Leadership at Northern Seminary Alabaster Jar Podcast

]]> Disclaimer 
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 
 
Show Notes 
CBE International’s Mutuality Magazine Winter Issue tackles the topic of Jesus and Women. To help us think deeply about this and how it affects our discipleship and reading of Scripture, Dr. Lynn Cohick comes on the podcast to talk with Erin and Blake.
 
Bio 
Dr. Cohick presently serves as Provost and Dean of Academic Affairs of Northern Seminary in Lisle, Illinois. She teaches New Testament and is leading the development of DMin and MA programs in women's studies, and the Women's Center for Leadership at Northern Seminary. She has her bachelor’s degree from Messiah College, and a Ph.D. in New Testament and Christian Origins from the University of Pennsylvania. After 18 years as professor of New Testament and Biblical Studies at Wheaton College she accepted the invitation to join Denver Seminary as their Provost / Dean. Dr. Cohick has also taught at Messiah College and Nairobi Evangelical Graduate School of Theology. She is the author of Christian Women in the Patristic World: Their Influence, Authority, and Legacy in the Second Through Fifth Centuries, as well as Women in the World of the Earliest Christians, and commentaries on Phillipians and Ephesians among many other articles and publications. She contributed a chapter about Jesus and the Samaritan woman in Vindicating the Vixens: Revisiting Sexualized, Vilified, and Marginalized Women in the Bible. She enjoys preaching from the Bible, teaching on matters pertaining to women’s ministry, and exploring issues pertaining to the historical relationship between Jews and Christians.

Other Reading  
Vindicating the Vixens: Revisiting Sexualized, Vilified, and Marginalized Women in the Bible.
Christian Women in the Patristic World: Their Influence, Authority, and Legacy in the Second Through Fifth Centuries
The Samaritan Woman's Story: Reconsidering John 4 After #ChurchToo
Center for Women and Leadership at Northern Seminary
Alabaster Jar Podcast

]]> CBE International false No 2165 79 full (Global Impact) Does Good Theology Reduce Gender-Based Violence? With Frankie Quirke (Global Impact) Does Good Theology Reduce Gender-Based Violence? With Frankie Quirke https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/does-good-theology-reduce-gender-based-violence-with-frankie-quirke/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/does-good-theology-reduce-gender-based-violence-with-frankie-quirke/#comments Fri, 02 Dec 2022 09:01:48 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/44ea7ad3-77dd-3d71-8706-32093ed66c8d In this second episode in a two-part interview of Mutuality Matters (Global Impact), Frankie Quirke explains how she became involved in Tearfund’s work with gender and equality and how it grew to include programs designed to minimize sexual and gender-based violence. She speaks of new initiatives and horizons that more fully include the whole family by sharing stories from the field that illustrate the work. 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

Bio: 

Francesca Quirke is Tearfund's sexual and gender-based violence program manager. Franky is passionate about the church championing gender justice and has been supporting Tearfund's work on preventing sexual and gender-based violence for seven years. Tearfund's “Transforming Masculinities” approach engages faith leaders and faith communities to shift harmful gender norms and create new equitable relationships and practices and is now being run in over seventeen countries. Francesca lives in Brighton in the UK and holds a masters in gender and international development from the London School of Economics and Political Science.   

  

Other Reading & Resources 

  1. Created To Thrive: Created Abuse-Gree Faith Communities, edited by Elizabeth Beyer.  
  1. CBE’s Ideas have Consequences Conference Recordings 
  1. The Headship of Men and the Abuse of Women: Are They Related in Any Way? By Kevin Giles 
  1. Tearfund podcast: Faith in Development-Season 2: Gender and Protection 
]]> In this second episode in a two-part interview of Mutuality Matters (Global Impact), Frankie Quirke explains how she became involved in Tearfund’s work with gender and equality and how it grew to include programs designed to minimize sexual and gender-based violence. She speaks of new initiatives and horizons that more fully include the whole family by sharing stories from the field that illustrate the work. 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

Bio: 

Francesca Quirke is Tearfund's sexual and gender-based violence program manager. Franky is passionate about the church championing gender justice and has been supporting Tearfund's work on preventing sexual and gender-based violence for seven years. Tearfund's “Transforming Masculinities” approach engages faith leaders and faith communities to shift harmful gender norms and create new equitable relationships and practices and is now being run in over seventeen countries. Francesca lives in Brighton in the UK and holds a masters in gender and international development from the London School of Economics and Political Science.   

  

Other Reading & Resources 

  1. Created To Thrive: Created Abuse-Gree Faith Communities, edited by Elizabeth Beyer.  
  1. CBE’s Ideas have Consequences Conference Recordings 
  1. The Headship of Men and the Abuse of Women: Are They Related in Any Way? By Kevin Giles 
  1. Tearfund podcast: Faith in Development-Season 2: Gender and Protection 
]]> CBE International false No 2268 78 full (Women & Men) The Power of “One-Degree Adjustments” with Rev. Tim Breen (Women & Men) The Power of “One-Degree Adjustments” with Rev. Tim Breen https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-men-the-power-of-one-degree-adjustments-with-rev-tim-breen/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/women-men-the-power-of-one-degree-adjustments-with-rev-tim-breen/#comments Fri, 25 Nov 2022 20:47:42 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/7dd73899-6efe-30dc-bc8c-73f5b34fbaa0 Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Show Notes 

Join us this week on Mutuality Matters Rev. Tim Breen helps us consider how continual “one-degree adjustments” cultivate a culture of mutuality in the church. Tim also shares his personal journey toward egalitarianism, as well as helpful reflections on Scripture.    

Bio 

Rev. Tim Breen serves as the lead pastor of First Reformed Church in Orange City, a position he has held since 2010. Tim received his bachelor's from Northwestern College and his Master of Divinity from Western Theological Seminary. His ministry interests are preaching, church growth, intercultural learning, and staff and church administration. On Saturdays, you can find him cheering on his beloved Michigan Wolverines. 

Find Tim at www.telosblog.com, follow him at @tsbreen on Twitter.   

Other Reading  

3 Practical Changes Churches Can Make To Empower Women - CBE International 

How A Pastor and A Church Changed Their Stance on Women in Ministry - CBE International 

]]> Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Show Notes 

Join us this week on Mutuality Matters Rev. Tim Breen helps us consider how continual “one-degree adjustments” cultivate a culture of mutuality in the church. Tim also shares his personal journey toward egalitarianism, as well as helpful reflections on Scripture.  
 

Bio 

Rev. Tim Breen serves as the lead pastor of First Reformed Church in Orange City, a position he has held since 2010. Tim received his bachelor's from Northwestern College and his Master of Divinity from Western Theological Seminary. His ministry interests are preaching, church growth, intercultural learning, and staff and church administration. On Saturdays, you can find him cheering on his beloved Michigan Wolverines. 

Find Tim at www.telosblog.com, follow him at @tsbreen on Twitter. 
 

Other Reading  

3 Practical Changes Churches Can Make To Empower Women - CBE International 

How A Pastor and A Church Changed Their Stance on Women in Ministry - CBE International 

]]> CBE International false No 1481 77 full Let’s See Color! With guest Michelle T. Sanchez Let’s See Color! With guest Michelle T. Sanchez https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/let-s-see-color-with-guest-michelle-t-sanchez/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/let-s-see-color-with-guest-michelle-t-sanchez/#comments Fri, 18 Nov 2022 06:00:00 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/57d5bc57-7e96-359b-89cc-e792ee61c901 Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Show Notes 

As disciples striving to reflect the true nature of God through Christ, we must have courage to be different than most people in the world, including how we deal with racism. Michelle T. Sanchez, author of the newly released book, Color-Courageous Discipleship: Follow Jesus, Dismantle Racism, and Build Beloved Community, shares with Angela her belief that it is impossible to separate race, discipleship, and our relationship with God. Listen in as they discuss both the theological foundation for her assertion and the practical implications for how we live "color-courageously" daily, choosing to see color so that we can dismantle racism, pursue equity, and build beloved community. 

To receive a sneak peek of Color-Courageous Discipleship: Follow Jesus, Dismantle Racism, and Build Beloved Community (first chapter) and God’s Beloved Community: A Picture Book (first few pages) text “courage” to 44144. Doing this will also subscribe you to receive more information and updates from Michelle T. Sanchez. 

Bio 

Michelle T. Sanchez, MDiv, ThM, is the senior discipleship and evangelism leader of the Evangelical Covenant Church, a vibrant multiethnic denomination of more than 875 congregations. Michelle completed seminary degrees at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and spiritual direction training at Boston College. She is a conference speaker and a columnist with Outreach magazine. Michelle has enjoyed engaging with colorful cultures in over thirty countries and territories around the world. She and her husband, Mickey, live with their children in the Chicago area. 

Other Reading and Resources: 

“Color-Courageous Biblical Equality” at CBE’s 2022 International Conference in Atlanta, Georgia (Video)    Color-Courageous Discipleship: Follow Jesus, Dismantle Racism, and Build Beloved Community by Michelle T. Sanchez    Learn more about Michelle at https://michelletsanchez.com/ 

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The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Show Notes 

As disciples striving to reflect the true nature of God through Christ, we must have courage to be different than most people in the world, including how we deal with racism. Michelle T. Sanchez, author of the newly released book, Color-Courageous Discipleship: Follow Jesus, Dismantle Racism, and Build Beloved Community, shares with Angela her belief that it is impossible to separate race, discipleship, and our relationship with God. Listen in as they discuss both the theological foundation for her assertion and the practical implications for how we live "color-courageously" daily, choosing to see color so that we can dismantle racism, pursue equity, and build beloved community. 

To receive a sneak peek of Color-Courageous Discipleship: Follow Jesus, Dismantle Racism, and Build Beloved Community (first chapter) and God’s Beloved Community: A Picture Book (first few pages) text “courage” to 44144. Doing this will also subscribe you to receive more information and updates from Michelle T. Sanchez. 

Bio 

Michelle T. Sanchez, MDiv, ThM, is the senior discipleship and evangelism leader of the Evangelical Covenant Church, a vibrant multiethnic denomination of more than 875 congregations. Michelle completed seminary degrees at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and spiritual direction training at Boston College. She is a conference speaker and a columnist with Outreach magazine. Michelle has enjoyed engaging with colorful cultures in over thirty countries and territories around the world. She and her husband, Mickey, live with their children in the Chicago area. 

Other Reading and Resources: 

“Color-Courageous Biblical Equality” at CBE’s 2022 International Conference in Atlanta, Georgia (Video) 
 
Color-Courageous Discipleship: Follow Jesus, Dismantle Racism, and Build Beloved Community by Michelle T. Sanchez 
 
Learn more about Michelle at https://michelletsanchez.com/ 

]]> CBE International false No 1770 76 full (New Voices) Gendered Socialization and Unearthing Buried Talents with Dr. Susan Harris Howell (New Voices) Gendered Socialization and Unearthing Buried Talents with Dr. Susan Harris Howell https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-gendered-socialization-and-unearthing-buried-talents-with-dr-susan-harris-howell/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-gendered-socialization-and-unearthing-buried-talents-with-dr-susan-harris-howell/#comments Fri, 11 Nov 2022 06:00:00 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/16f387aa-9ccf-3e29-9caa-48f29fc7d789 Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Show Notes 

Why are there not as many women ministers? Dr. Susan Harris Howell talks with hosts Blake and Erin about her work on the socialization of women and men. There are several variables that contribute to the diminishing of women, such as the gendered language we use daily without thought. In this episode, we learn what these variables are and how we can counter their effects. Be sure to pick up Dr. Howell’s book, “Buried Talents” at the CBE bookstore and visit her website to learn more: https://www.susanharrishowell.com/ 

 

Bio 

Dr. Susan Harris Howell is a writer, speaker, and professor of Psychology, based in Central Kentucky. After graduating from Campbellsville College, she went on to the University of Louisville for her graduate work, receiving a Master of Education with an emphasis in marriage and family counseling and a Doctor of Education with an emphasis in counseling and development. She worked as a therapist before beginning her teaching career. She has written extensively on the topic of biblical gender equality. Dr. Howell teaches classes on gender studies and integrating faith and psychology at Campbellsville University in Kentucky. She is the author of Buried Talents: Overcoming Gendered Socialization to Answer God’s Call, as well as a number of articles about the importance of following our own gifts and calling rather than letting others dictate to us which pursuits are appropriate for women and men. 

 

Other Reading  

Buried Talents by Susan Harris Howell 

The Desk: Four Lessons to Help Women Tackle the Impossible by Susan Harris Howell 

No Longer Male and Female: Why Do We Still Separate by Gender in Church? by Vanessa Bickle  

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The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

Show Notes 

Why are there not as many women ministers? Dr. Susan Harris Howell talks with hosts Blake and Erin about her work on the socialization of women and men. There are several variables that contribute to the diminishing of women, such as the gendered language we use daily without thought. In this episode, we learn what these variables are and how we can counter their effects. Be sure to pick up Dr. Howell’s book, “Buried Talents” at the CBE bookstore and visit her website to learn more: https://www.susanharrishowell.com/ 

 

Bio 

Dr. Susan Harris Howell is a writer, speaker, and professor of Psychology, based in Central Kentucky. After graduating from Campbellsville College, she went on to the University of Louisville for her graduate work, receiving a Master of Education with an emphasis in marriage and family counseling and a Doctor of Education with an emphasis in counseling and development. She worked as a therapist before beginning her teaching career. She has written extensively on the topic of biblical gender equality. Dr. Howell teaches classes on gender studies and integrating faith and psychology at Campbellsville University in Kentucky. She is the author of Buried Talents: Overcoming Gendered Socialization to Answer God’s Call, as well as a number of articles about the importance of following our own gifts and calling rather than letting others dictate to us which pursuits are appropriate for women and men. 

 

Other Reading  

Buried Talents by Susan Harris Howell 

The Desk: Four Lessons to Help Women Tackle the Impossible by Susan Harris Howell 

No Longer Male and Female: Why Do We Still Separate by Gender in Church? by Vanessa Bickle  

]]> CBE International false No 1537 75 full (Global Impact) Make Churches Places of Refuge for Gender-Based Violence Survivors (Global Impact) Make Churches Places of Refuge for Gender-Based Violence Survivors https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-make-churches-places-of-refuge-for-gender-based-violence-survivors%c2%a0-disclaimer/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/global-impact-make-churches-places-of-refuge-for-gender-based-violence-survivors%c2%a0-disclaimer/#comments Mon, 07 Nov 2022 09:45:09 -0600 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/7cf81042-fa8b-3a5a-b06a-c43360f00196 Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.    Show Notes  In this first episode of a two-part interview on Mutuality Matters, “Global Impact” thread, Frankie Quirke explains how Tearfund’s work grew to include programs designed to minimize sexual and gender-based violence in the home, church, and community.  Tearfund’s community-centered approach reduced the stigma experienced by survivors of rape and helped to make their churches places of safety and healing.  Furthermore, in a community atmosphere, it addressed poor theology that held men as superior to women, reflecting on sin and God’s intention for flourishing humanity in relationship with God, one another, and creation.  Bio  Francesca Quirke is Tearfund's sexual and gender-based violence program manager.   Franky is passionate about the church championing gender justice and has been supporting Tearfund's work on preventing sexual and gender-based violence for seven years. Tearfund's Transforming Masculinities approach engages faith leaders and faith communities to shift harmful gender norms and create new equitable relationships and practices and is now being run in over seventeen countries. Francesca lives in Brighton in the UK and holds a master's degree in gender and international development from the London School of Economics and Political Science.     Other Reading & Resources   1. Created To Thrive: Created Abuse-Gree Faith Communities, edited by Elizabeth Beyer.   2. CBE’s “Ideas have Consequences” Conference Recordings  3. The Headship of Men and the Abuse of Women: Are They Related in Any Way? By Kevin Giles   4. Tearfund podcast: Faith in Development-Season 2: Gender and Protection  

]]> Disclaimer 
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 
 
Show Notes 
In this first episode of a two-part interview on Mutuality Matters, “Global Impact” thread, Frankie Quirke explains how Tearfund’s work grew to include programs designed to minimize sexual and gender-based violence in the home, church, and community.  Tearfund’s community-centered approach reduced the stigma experienced by survivors of rape and helped to make their churches places of safety and healing.  Furthermore, in a community atmosphere, it addressed poor theology that held men as superior to women, reflecting on sin and God’s intention for flourishing humanity in relationship with God, one another, and creation. 
Bio 
Francesca Quirke is Tearfund's sexual and gender-based violence program manager.  
Franky is passionate about the church championing gender justice and has been supporting Tearfund's work on preventing sexual and gender-based violence for seven years. Tearfund's Transforming Masculinities approach engages faith leaders and faith communities to shift harmful gender norms and create new equitable relationships and practices and is now being run in over seventeen countries. Francesca lives in Brighton in the UK and holds a master's degree in gender and international development from the London School of Economics and Political Science.  
 
Other Reading & Resources  
1. Created To Thrive: Created Abuse-Gree Faith Communities, edited by Elizabeth Beyer.  
2. CBE’s “Ideas have Consequences” Conference Recordings 
3. The Headship of Men and the Abuse of Women: Are They Related in Any Way? By Kevin Giles  
4. Tearfund podcast: Faith in Development-Season 2: Gender and Protection  

]]> CBE International false No 1769 74 full (Men and Women Leading Together) Creating Safe and Thriving Mixed-Gender Partnerships (Men and Women Leading Together) Creating Safe and Thriving Mixed-Gender Partnerships https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/men-and-women-leading-together-creating-safe-and-thriving-mixed-gender-partnerships/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/men-and-women-leading-together-creating-safe-and-thriving-mixed-gender-partnerships/#comments Fri, 28 Oct 2022 06:03:00 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/568ef992-bb5c-3c42-8df3-735857f17fdd In this special episode of Mutuality Matters, hosts Layla and Rob interview three gender violence experts to learn how individuals and churches can be intentional about building safe and thriving mixed-gender ministry partnerships. Topics include the language of domestic violence, himpathy, why men batter, and practical steps for accountability and prevention in churches. Listen to this conversation that truly spanned the world, from Australia to the US to Great Britain, and learn how to prevent domestic violence within your community. Created to Thrive contributors highlighted in this episode are Natalie Collins, Chuck Derry, and Nicola (Nicky) Lock.    

Guest Bios 

  • Natalie Collins is a gender justice specialist working with a number of organizations in the UK. Natalie speaks and writes on understanding and ending gender injustice nationally and internationally. Learn more at https://www.nataliecollins.info/   
  • Chuck Derry has been involved in efforts to end men’s violence against women since 1983. In 1994, he co-founded the Gender Violence Institute in Clearwater, Minnesota, an organization that among other things offers training on the dynamics of domestic violence. Reach Chuck at gvi@frontiernet.net. 

 

  • Nicola (Nicky) Lock serves as a course coordinator and lecturer in pastoral counseling at St. Mark's National Theological Center in Barton, Australia. Nicky has over 25 years of experience as a counselor, therapist, and educator. Find Nicky on LinkedIn and Facebook. 

 

Other Reading 

Created to Thrive 

]]> In this special episode of Mutuality Matters, hosts Layla and Rob interview three gender violence experts to learn how individuals and churches can be intentional about building safe and thriving mixed-gender ministry partnerships. Topics include the language of domestic violence, himpathy, why men batter, and practical steps for accountability and prevention in churches. Listen to this conversation that truly spanned the world, from Australia to the US to Great Britain, and learn how to prevent domestic violence within your community. Created to Thrive contributors highlighted in this episode are Natalie Collins, Chuck Derry, and Nicola (Nicky) Lock.  
 

Guest Bios 

  • Natalie Collins is a gender justice specialist working with a number of organizations in the UK. Natalie speaks and writes on understanding and ending gender injustice nationally and internationally. Learn more at https://www.nataliecollins.info/ 
     
  • Chuck Derry has been involved in efforts to end men’s violence against women since 1983. In 1994, he co-founded the Gender Violence Institute in Clearwater, Minnesota, an organization that among other things offers training on the dynamics of domestic violence. Reach Chuck at gvi@frontiernet.net. 

 

  • Nicola (Nicky) Lock serves as a course coordinator and lecturer in pastoral counseling at St. Mark's National Theological Center in Barton, Australia. Nicky has over 25 years of experience as a counselor, therapist, and educator. Find Nicky on LinkedIn and Facebook. 

 

Other Reading 

Created to Thrive 

]]> CBE International false No 2750 73 full (Intersectionality) Theology in Practice: The Image of God and Domestic Violence (Intersectionality) Theology in Practice: The Image of God and Domestic Violence https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-theology-in-practice-the-image-of-god-and-domestic-violence/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/intersectionality-theology-in-practice-the-image-of-god-and-domestic-violence/#comments Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:00:00 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/cd18cb4c-6e78-3a46-9990-05bd54f6d1ee The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

In acknowledgment of October being Domestic Violence Awareness month, this special episode of Mutuality Matters features a panel of Created to Thrive contributors who sit down with host Angela and share their thoughts about how the church can help people find healing from the trauma of domestic violence by creating safe spaces for women and families. As leaders, we have an opportunity to preach, teach and model healthy relationships between women and men grounded in respect and mutuality that honors the image of God reflected by both. Guests on today’s episode include Dr. Antoinette Alvarado, Dr. Jeanne Porter-King, and Rev. Johnrice Newton.  

 

Bio 

Rev. Johnrice Newton, a trained RN chaplain, is the founder and president of Tapestry Ministries, Inc., a nonprofit organization that offers a myriad of programs and services including providing emergency resources for women affected by domestic abuse. She published her book in 2016 titled Healing Voices: Women of Faith Who Survived Abuse Speak Out, Volume 1. 

Dr. Jeanne Porter King is the founder and president of TransPorter Group Inc., a consulting practice that specializes in leadership development, diversity and inclusion training, process facilitation, and influence coaching. She has authored many books including Influence Starts with “I”: A Woman’s Guide to Unleashing the Power of Leading from Within, and Effective Change Around You. 

Dr. Antoinette Alvarado is the co-pastor of Grace Church International, founder and executive director of My Sister’s Keeper Foundation for Women, and president of Targeted Living Coaching & Consulting, LLC.  A dynamic preacher, teacher, and workshop presenter, she is also the author of Run and Not be Weary: The Pursuit of Purpose and Destiny among several other titles.  

Other Reading: 

Created to Thrive: https://cbeinternational.christianbook.com/created-thrive-cultivating-abuse-free-communities/9781939971906/pd/971900?event=ESRCG 

]]> The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

 

In acknowledgment of October being Domestic Violence Awareness month, this special episode of Mutuality Matters features a panel of Created to Thrive contributors who sit down with host Angela and share their thoughts about how the church can help people find healing from the trauma of domestic violence by creating safe spaces for women and families. As leaders, we have an opportunity to preach, teach and model healthy relationships between women and men grounded in respect and mutuality that honors the image of God reflected by both. Guests on today’s episode include Dr. Antoinette Alvarado, Dr. Jeanne Porter-King, and Rev. Johnrice Newton.  

 

Bio 

Rev. Johnrice Newton, a trained RN chaplain, is the founder and president of Tapestry Ministries, Inc., a nonprofit organization that offers a myriad of programs and services including providing emergency resources for women affected by domestic abuse. She published her book in 2016 titled Healing Voices: Women of Faith Who Survived Abuse Speak Out, Volume 1. 

Dr. Jeanne Porter King is the founder and president of TransPorter Group Inc., a consulting practice that specializes in leadership development, diversity and inclusion training, process facilitation, and influence coaching. She has authored many books including Influence Starts with “I”: A Woman’s Guide to Unleashing the Power of Leading from Within, and Effective Change Around You. 

Dr. Antoinette Alvarado is the co-pastor of Grace Church International, founder and executive director of My Sister’s Keeper Foundation for Women, and president of Targeted Living Coaching & Consulting, LLC.  A dynamic preacher, teacher, and workshop presenter, she is also the author of Run and Not be Weary: The Pursuit of Purpose and Destiny among several other titles.  

Other Reading: 

Created to Thrive: https://cbeinternational.christianbook.com/created-thrive-cultivating-abuse-free-communities/9781939971906/pd/971900?event=ESRCG 

]]> CBE International false No 3083 72 full (New Voices) The Hidden Truth about Abuse with Created to Thrive authors Rebecca Kotz and Annette Oltmans (New Voices) The Hidden Truth about Abuse with Created to Thrive authors Rebecca Kotz and Annette Oltmans https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-the-hidden-truth-about-abuse-with-created-to-thrive-authors-rebecca-kotz-and-annette-oltmans/ https://mutualitymatters.podbean.com/e/new-voices-the-hidden-truth-about-abuse-with-created-to-thrive-authors-rebecca-kotz-and-annette-oltmans/#comments Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:36:44 -0500 mutualitymatters.podbean.com/617432d7-25e9-3f38-ac6f-1efd3f684b23 Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions on details pertaining to domestic violence. Listener discretion is advised. 

In this episode, hosts Erin and Blake talk with contributing authors, Rebecca Kotz and Annette Oltmans, about their chapters in the new CBE International publication, Created to Thrive: Cultivating Abuse-Free Communities. They discuss how forms of abuse are covert and easy to dismiss while also helping us understand how we can help and not be a fresh source of harm to victims of abuse. Leaders, friends, and those wanting to address abuse will learn a great deal from this episode.  

Be sure to pick up a copy of Created to Thrive and to connect with these other resources from our podcast guests: www.rebeccakotz.com and https://themendproject.com/.  

If you are experiencing domestic violence and would like help, contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233. 

Bios: 

Rebecca Kotz is an advocate, speaker, community organizer, activist, liberation educator, consultant, and writer on sexual politics and feminism. She has worked at various social change and antiviolence organizations in Minnesota. She founded and facilitates a program for convicted male offenders, Men Accountable for Sexual Exploitation. She is currently finishing her master’s degree in social justice at Prescott College in Arizona. Find more of her work at www.rebeccakotz.com 

Annette Oltmans (Founder and chairman of the board of directors of the M3ND Project) is a philanthropist and passionate human rights advocate. She is a survivor. Annette’s personal experiences of recovery and extensive field research into the topics of Original Abuse and Double Abuse® ignited Annette’s passion to found The M3ND Project in 2016. She conceptualized the term Double Abuse® naming the behaviors causing complex trauma (CPTSD) to victim survivors. In addition to this work, she serves on the board of Pepperdine University’s Boone Center for the Family and is a trustee of Northrise University in Zambia. Her writing on the topics of abuse, domestic violence, and bullying, has been published in AACC, Teen Vogue, OC Register, and other publications. 

Other Reading:  

“Are We Continuing to Sideline Women in Conversations about Abuse?” by Katherine Spearing 

“He Made Her Play the Harlot: Judges 19 through the Lens of Domestic Abuse” by Evelyn Sweerts-Vermeulen 

“Monica of Hippo: Influential Church Mother and Domestic Abuse Survivor” by Olivia Brokaw 

]]> Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions on details pertaining to domestic violence. Listener discretion is advised. 

In this episode, hosts Erin and Blake talk with contributing authors, Rebecca Kotz and Annette Oltmans, about their chapters in the new CBE International publication, Created to Thrive: Cultivating Abuse-Free Communities. They discuss how forms of abuse are covert and easy to dismiss while also helping us understand how we can help and not be a fresh source of harm to victims of abuse. Leaders, friends, and those wanting to address abuse will learn a great deal from this episode.  

Be sure to pick up a copy of Created to Thrive and to connect with these other resources from our podcast guests: www.rebeccakotz.com and https://themendproject.com/.  

If you are experiencing domestic violence and would like help, contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233. 

Bios: 

Rebecca Kotz is an advocate, speaker, community organizer, activist, liberation educator, consultant, and writer on sexual politics and feminism. She has worked at various social change and antiviolence organizations in Minnesota. She founded and facilitates a program for convicted male offenders, Men Accountable for Sexual Exploitation. She is currently finishing her master’s degree in social justice at Prescott College in Arizona. Find more of her work at www.rebeccakotz.com 

Annette Oltmans (Founder and chairman of the board of directors of the M3ND Project) is a philanthropist and passionate human rights advocate. She is a survivor. Annette’s personal experiences of recovery and extensive field research into the topics of Original Abuse and Double Abuse® ignited Annette’s passion to found The M3ND Project in 2016. She conceptualized the term Double Abuse® naming the behaviors causing complex trauma (CPTSD) to victim survivors. In addition to this work, she serves on the board of Pepperdine University’s Boone Center for the Family and is a trustee of Northrise University in Zambia. Her writing on the topics of abuse, domestic violence, and bullying, has been published in AACC, Teen Vogue, OC Register, and other publications. 

Other Reading:  

“Are We Continuing to Sideline Women in Conversations about Abuse?” by Katherine Spearing 

“He Made Her Play the Harlot: Judges 19 through the Lens of Domestic Abuse” by Evelyn Sweerts-Vermeulen 

“Monica of Hippo: Influential Church Mother and Domestic Abuse Survivor” by Olivia Brokaw 

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