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        <title>Laura Johnson: Grievous medical incompetence kills her father...and how many more?</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When Laura Johnson’s father Bill, a healthy and active senior, went for a simple medical procedure, Laura’s gut instincts told her to miss work and go with him to keep him safe. </p>
<p>But Bill told her he had a friend accompanying him and assured Laura he would be fine because “how bad could they mess this up”.</p>
<p>Tragically, Laura’s instincts were right. Her father was not safe in that hospital under their care. And the doctor responsible for Bill’s care, is the daughter of a doctor who is imprisoned for medical fraud. The medical apple does not fall far from the criminal tree.</p>
<p>Laura shares what happened to her father, how he was blamed when the procedure went wrong, and how staggering levels of medical incompetence lead to his early death.</p>
<p>Connect with Laura Johnson:</p>
<p><a href='https://m.facebook.com/laura.g.johnson.7'>https://m.facebook.com/laura.g.johnson.7</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Laura Johnson’s father Bill, a healthy and active senior, went for a simple medical procedure, Laura’s gut instincts told her to miss work and go with him to keep him safe. </p>
<p>But Bill told her he had a friend accompanying him and assured Laura he would be fine because “how bad could they mess this up”.</p>
<p>Tragically, Laura’s instincts were right. Her father was not safe in that hospital under their care. And the doctor responsible for Bill’s care, is the daughter of a doctor who is imprisoned for medical fraud. The medical apple does not fall far from the criminal tree.</p>
<p>Laura shares what happened to her father, how he was blamed when the procedure went wrong, and how staggering levels of medical incompetence lead to his early death.</p>
<p>Connect with Laura Johnson:</p>
<p><a href='https://m.facebook.com/laura.g.johnson.7'>https://m.facebook.com/laura.g.johnson.7</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When Laura Johnson’s father Bill, a healthy and active senior, went for a simple medical procedure, Laura’s gut instincts told her to miss work and go with him to keep him safe. 
But Bill told her he had a friend accompanying him and assured Laura he would be fine because “how bad could they mess this up”.
Tragically, Laura’s instincts were right. Her father was not safe in that hospital under their care. And the doctor responsible for Bill’s care, is the daughter of a doctor who is imprisoned for medical fraud. The medical apple does not fall far from the criminal tree.
Laura shares what happened to her father, how he was blamed when the procedure went wrong, and how staggering levels of medical incompetence lead to his early death.
Connect with Laura Johnson:
https://m.facebook.com/laura.g.johnson.7
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>Carol Sunnucks: The joy of birth, the harm of medicine, the betrayal by the systems</title>
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                    <comments>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/carol-sunnucks-the-joy-of-birth-the-harm-of-medicine-the-betrayal-by-the-systems/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2021 04:20:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Medical error and harm can take many forms and occurs in almost every medical context, except perhaps during autopsies.  So when a medical error occurs during a joyous event like childbirth, it can not only impact the immediate experience, but may also cause lifelong suffering and disability.</p>
<p>This is what happened to Carol Sunnucks when she went to the hospital to give birth to her son Kai. It was a hard labour and they had to use a suction device to pull Kai out -- but the doctor failed to check Carol for internal damage after that difficult procedure. This would prove to be catastrophic to Carol’s health and future. </p>
<p>To make matters exponentially worse, the medical error and the damage it was causing was not detected for so long that any hope of Carol recovering her normal bodily functions is seemingly gone.  </p>
<p>Layered on top of that is the betrayal Carol subsequently experienced by both the health care and legal systems.  Carol and I talk about her experiences and what she’s doing to make meaning out of someone else’s failure to do their job.</p>
<p>Connect with Carol Sunnucks</p>
<p>Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/carol.sunnucks.92'>https://www.facebook.com/carol.sunnucks.92</a></p>
<p>Twitter: https://twitter.com/kaibaby28</p>
<p>Email: CarolSunnucks@hotmail.co.uk</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medical error and harm can take many forms and occurs in almost every medical context, except perhaps during autopsies.  So when a medical error occurs during a joyous event like childbirth, it can not only impact the immediate experience, but may also cause lifelong suffering and disability.</p>
<p>This is what happened to Carol Sunnucks when she went to the hospital to give birth to her son Kai. It was a hard labour and they had to use a suction device to pull Kai out -- but the doctor failed to check Carol for internal damage after that difficult procedure. This would prove to be catastrophic to Carol’s health and future. </p>
<p>To make matters exponentially worse, the medical error and the damage it was causing was not detected for so long that any hope of Carol recovering her normal bodily functions is seemingly gone.  </p>
<p>Layered on top of that is the betrayal Carol subsequently experienced by both the health care and legal systems.  Carol and I talk about her experiences and what she’s doing to make meaning out of someone else’s failure to do their job.</p>
<p>Connect with Carol Sunnucks</p>
<p>Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/carol.sunnucks.92'>https://www.facebook.com/carol.sunnucks.92</a></p>
<p>Twitter: https://twitter.com/kaibaby28</p>
<p>Email: CarolSunnucks@hotmail.co.uk</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Medical error and harm can take many forms and occurs in almost every medical context, except perhaps during autopsies.  So when a medical error occurs during a joyous event like childbirth, it can not only impact the immediate experience, but may also cause lifelong suffering and disability.
This is what happened to Carol Sunnucks when she went to the hospital to give birth to her son Kai. It was a hard labour and they had to use a suction device to pull Kai out -- but the doctor failed to check Carol for internal damage after that difficult procedure. This would prove to be catastrophic to Carol’s health and future. 
To make matters exponentially worse, the medical error and the damage it was causing was not detected for so long that any hope of Carol recovering her normal bodily functions is seemingly gone.  
Layered on top of that is the betrayal Carol subsequently experienced by both the health care and legal systems.  Carol and I talk about her experiences and what she’s doing to make meaning out of someone else’s failure to do their job.
Connect with Carol Sunnucks
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/carol.sunnucks.92
Twitter: https://twitter.com/kaibaby28
Email: CarolSunnucks@hotmail.co.uk]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>Ashanti Daniel, RN: Are nurses immune to doctors’ gaslighting? Not if you’re a black woman</title>
        <itunes:title>Ashanti Daniel, RN: Are nurses immune to doctors’ gaslighting? Not if you’re a black woman</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/ashanti-daniel-rn-are-nurses-immune-to-doctors-gaslighting-not-if-you-re-a-black-woman/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2021 02:31:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ashanti Daniel is one of those people who knew their career destiny as a child - and then made it come to fruition. As a nurse, Ashanti had the inside view of how the health care system operates - so when she got very sick and  was hospitalized multiple times, she thought that being a health care worker would afford her legitimacy in the eyes of her medical peers.  </p>
<p>But Ashanti quickly discovered that being a black woman with ‘normal’ results from routine medical tests, trumped years of working as a health care professional.</p>
<p>While medical gaslighting is endemic throughout the health care system, it is especially evident if you have a disease that has no biomarkers, and you are a female of colour.  Ask any one with a complex chronic illness, and you will most assuredly hear a story of doctors denying the patient experience of their own body, and instead attribute physical symptoms to psychological causes. And this is based on nothing except the doctor’s biases, prejudices and ego. For black female patients with a complex disease, it could be argued that the operationalized ‘standard of care’ is gaslighting. </p>
<p>As Ashanti experienced, a doctor can write whatever they want about a patient in the medical records. It doesn’t have to be true. The amount of power doctors wield over people is the power of life and death. At their whim, they can deny testing, ignore a diagnosis, and label a person as mentally ill. In some jurisdictions, doctors can have a person committed to a mental hospital against their will.</p>
<p>The medical system is a pathological mess, driven and controlled by a god complex culture. Until doctors change their culture, there will continue to be -- as Long COVID patients are discovering en masse -- many doctors that inflict great harm by disbelieving patients.</p>
<p>Connect with Ashanti Daniel, RN</p>
<p>Instagram: @AshantiRN</p>
<p>Twitter: @AshantiRN</p>
<p>Linktr.ee: <a href='http://www.Linktr.ee/AshantiRN'>www.Linktr.ee/AshantiRN</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashanti Daniel is one of those people who knew their career destiny as a child - and then made it come to fruition. As a nurse, Ashanti had the inside view of how the health care system operates - so when she got very sick and  was hospitalized multiple times, she thought that being a health care worker would afford her legitimacy in the eyes of her medical peers.  </p>
<p>But Ashanti quickly discovered that being a black woman with ‘normal’ results from routine medical tests, trumped years of working as a health care professional.</p>
<p>While medical gaslighting is endemic throughout the health care system, it is especially evident if you have a disease that has no biomarkers, and you are a female of colour.  Ask any one with a complex chronic illness, and you will most assuredly hear a story of doctors denying the patient experience of their own body, and instead attribute physical symptoms to psychological causes. And this is based on nothing except the doctor’s biases, prejudices and ego. For black female patients with a complex disease, it could be argued that the operationalized ‘standard of care’ is gaslighting. </p>
<p>As Ashanti experienced, a doctor can write whatever they want about a patient in the medical records. It doesn’t have to be true. The amount of power doctors wield over people is the power of life and death. At their whim, they can deny testing, ignore a diagnosis, and label a person as mentally ill. In some jurisdictions, doctors can have a person committed to a mental hospital against their will.</p>
<p>The medical system is a pathological mess, driven and controlled by a god complex culture. Until doctors change their culture, there will continue to be -- as Long COVID patients are discovering en masse -- many doctors that inflict great harm by disbelieving patients.</p>
<p>Connect with Ashanti Daniel, RN</p>
<p>Instagram: @AshantiRN</p>
<p>Twitter: @AshantiRN</p>
<p>Linktr.ee: <a href='http://www.Linktr.ee/AshantiRN'>www.Linktr.ee/AshantiRN</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ashanti Daniel is one of those people who knew their career destiny as a child - and then made it come to fruition. As a nurse, Ashanti had the inside view of how the health care system operates - so when she got very sick and  was hospitalized multiple times, she thought that being a health care worker would afford her legitimacy in the eyes of her medical peers.  
But Ashanti quickly discovered that being a black woman with ‘normal’ results from routine medical tests, trumped years of working as a health care professional.
While medical gaslighting is endemic throughout the health care system, it is especially evident if you have a disease that has no biomarkers, and you are a female of colour.  Ask any one with a complex chronic illness, and you will most assuredly hear a story of doctors denying the patient experience of their own body, and instead attribute physical symptoms to psychological causes. And this is based on nothing except the doctor’s biases, prejudices and ego. For black female patients with a complex disease, it could be argued that the operationalized ‘standard of care’ is gaslighting. 
As Ashanti experienced, a doctor can write whatever they want about a patient in the medical records. It doesn’t have to be true. The amount of power doctors wield over people is the power of life and death. At their whim, they can deny testing, ignore a diagnosis, and label a person as mentally ill. In some jurisdictions, doctors can have a person committed to a mental hospital against their will.
The medical system is a pathological mess, driven and controlled by a god complex culture. Until doctors change their culture, there will continue to be -- as Long COVID patients are discovering en masse -- many doctors that inflict great harm by disbelieving patients.
Connect with Ashanti Daniel, RN
Instagram: @AshantiRN
Twitter: @AshantiRN
Linktr.ee: www.Linktr.ee/AshantiRN
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
 
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Mis]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>In the early hours of the 28th of July 2016, Colette McCulloch was hit and killed by a bus. Eighteen hours earlier Colette had walked out of the specialist care facility for autistic adults where she was being treated.</p>
<p>Throughout Colette’s short life, her parents Andy and Amanda, sought out medical professionals to try to explain and ease their younger daughter’s extraordinary mind. Since Colette’s death Andy and Amanda have been fighting various medical and legal authorities to uncover the failings in her care and treatment. </p>
<p>In our interview, author Andy McCulloch tells the story of his daughter's life and untimely death: the years in which her autism went undiagnosed, her lifelong battle with eating disorders and the lack of support for her complex needs. In spite of these challenges, Colette forged a path to university to pursue her passion for literature and to have her writing published.</p>
<p>Over the past year Andy and Amanda have written a book about their family’s experience with the health care system titled “Why Can’t You Hear Me?” - and it includes some of Colette’s writing, where she articulates her experiences grappling with a world forever at odds with her. With this book, Colette’s dream of having her words published has come to fruition.</p>
<p>Colette's story is ultimately a call to action and a message of hope for a future in which autistic people will be better understood, appropriately cared for, and able to flourish.</p>
<p>Connect with Andy McCulloch:</p>
<p>Twitter: @AndyMcCulloch5</p>
<p>Buy his book: <a href='https://www.amazon.ca/Why-Cant-You-Hear-Understood/dp/1787755088'>Why Can’t You Hear Me?</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the early hours of the 28th of July 2016, Colette McCulloch was hit and killed by a bus. Eighteen hours earlier Colette had walked out of the specialist care facility for autistic adults where she was being treated.</p>
<p>Throughout Colette’s short life, her parents Andy and Amanda, sought out medical professionals to try to explain and ease their younger daughter’s extraordinary mind. Since Colette’s death Andy and Amanda have been fighting various medical and legal authorities to uncover the failings in her care and treatment. </p>
<p>In our interview, author Andy McCulloch tells the story of his daughter's life and untimely death: the years in which her autism went undiagnosed, her lifelong battle with eating disorders and the lack of support for her complex needs. In spite of these challenges, Colette forged a path to university to pursue her passion for literature and to have her writing published.</p>
<p>Over the past year Andy and Amanda have written a book about their family’s experience with the health care system titled “Why Can’t You Hear Me?” - and it includes some of Colette’s writing, where she articulates her experiences grappling with a world forever at odds with her. With this book, Colette’s dream of having her words published has come to fruition.</p>
<p>Colette's story is ultimately a call to action and a message of hope for a future in which autistic people will be better understood, appropriately cared for, and able to flourish.</p>
<p>Connect with Andy McCulloch:</p>
<p>Twitter: @AndyMcCulloch5</p>
<p>Buy his book: <a href='https://www.amazon.ca/Why-Cant-You-Hear-Understood/dp/1787755088'>Why Can’t You Hear Me?</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In the early hours of the 28th of July 2016, Colette McCulloch was hit and killed by a bus. Eighteen hours earlier Colette had walked out of the specialist care facility for autistic adults where she was being treated.
Throughout Colette’s short life, her parents Andy and Amanda, sought out medical professionals to try to explain and ease their younger daughter’s extraordinary mind. Since Colette’s death Andy and Amanda have been fighting various medical and legal authorities to uncover the failings in her care and treatment. 
In our interview, author Andy McCulloch tells the story of his daughter's life and untimely death: the years in which her autism went undiagnosed, her lifelong battle with eating disorders and the lack of support for her complex needs. In spite of these challenges, Colette forged a path to university to pursue her passion for literature and to have her writing published.
Over the past year Andy and Amanda have written a book about their family’s experience with the health care system titled “Why Can’t You Hear Me?” - and it includes some of Colette’s writing, where she articulates her experiences grappling with a world forever at odds with her. With this book, Colette’s dream of having her words published has come to fruition.
Colette's story is ultimately a call to action and a message of hope for a future in which autistic people will be better understood, appropriately cared for, and able to flourish.
Connect with Andy McCulloch:
Twitter: @AndyMcCulloch5
Buy his book: Why Can’t You Hear Me?
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Implanting plastic mesh inside our bodies doesn’t sound like a smart thing -- and it wouldn’t have happened to Michelle Hedgcoth if a previous medical error hadn’t damaged her body.</p>
<p>Michelle was a healthy and happy career woman when she gave birth - but the doctor, who had given Michelle an episiotomy, failed to sew her back up after the baby was delivered. This failure would have devastating consequences on every aspect of Michelle’s life.</p>
<p>In an effort to ‘fix’ their mistake, doctors performed a surgery to implant plastic mesh into Michelle’s abdomen. Plastic mesh that can disintegrate releasing toxic and sickening poisons -- plastic mesh that can twist, break apart and pierce internal organs -- plastic mesh that can attach itself to organs so that it can never be detached.</p>
<p>In this interview, Michelle tells us what happened to her in the health care system, the impact it has had on her body, her health, her family, her career, and what she is doing today to make others aware of the dangers of mesh implants.</p>
<p>Connect with Michelle Hedgcoth:</p>
<p>Twitter: @WCmeshfighter</p>
<p>Facebook: WestCoastMeshFighter  https://www.facebook.com/Westcoastmeshfighter</p>
<p>Instagram:  WestCoastMeshFighter  https://www.instagram.com/westcoastmeshfighter/?hl=en</p>
<p>Website:  <a href='https://t.co/7T21XCg3Ul?amp=1'>http://WestCoastMeshFighter.com</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Implanting plastic mesh inside our bodies doesn’t sound like a smart thing -- and it wouldn’t have happened to Michelle Hedgcoth if a previous medical error hadn’t damaged her body.</p>
<p>Michelle was a healthy and happy career woman when she gave birth - but the doctor, who had given Michelle an episiotomy, failed to sew her back up after the baby was delivered. This failure would have devastating consequences on every aspect of Michelle’s life.</p>
<p>In an effort to ‘fix’ their mistake, doctors performed a surgery to implant plastic mesh into Michelle’s abdomen. Plastic mesh that can disintegrate releasing toxic and sickening poisons -- plastic mesh that can twist, break apart and pierce internal organs -- plastic mesh that can attach itself to organs so that it can never be detached.</p>
<p>In this interview, Michelle tells us what happened to her in the health care system, the impact it has had on her body, her health, her family, her career, and what she is doing today to make others aware of the dangers of mesh implants.</p>
<p>Connect with Michelle Hedgcoth:</p>
<p>Twitter: @WCmeshfighter</p>
<p>Facebook: WestCoastMeshFighter  https://www.facebook.com/Westcoastmeshfighter</p>
<p>Instagram:  WestCoastMeshFighter  https://www.instagram.com/westcoastmeshfighter/?hl=en</p>
<p>Website:  <a href='https://t.co/7T21XCg3Ul?amp=1'>http://WestCoastMeshFighter.com</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Implanting plastic mesh inside our bodies doesn’t sound like a smart thing -- and it wouldn’t have happened to Michelle Hedgcoth if a previous medical error hadn’t damaged her body.
Michelle was a healthy and happy career woman when she gave birth - but the doctor, who had given Michelle an episiotomy, failed to sew her back up after the baby was delivered. This failure would have devastating consequences on every aspect of Michelle’s life.
In an effort to ‘fix’ their mistake, doctors performed a surgery to implant plastic mesh into Michelle’s abdomen. Plastic mesh that can disintegrate releasing toxic and sickening poisons -- plastic mesh that can twist, break apart and pierce internal organs -- plastic mesh that can attach itself to organs so that it can never be detached.
In this interview, Michelle tells us what happened to her in the health care system, the impact it has had on her body, her health, her family, her career, and what she is doing today to make others aware of the dangers of mesh implants.
Connect with Michelle Hedgcoth:
Twitter: @WCmeshfighter
Facebook: WestCoastMeshFighter  https://www.facebook.com/Westcoastmeshfighter
Instagram:  WestCoastMeshFighter  https://www.instagram.com/westcoastmeshfighter/?hl=en
Website:  http://WestCoastMeshFighter.com
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com
Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the sno]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Like the vast majority of people, you have probably taken an antibiotic at some point in your life.  And it probably helped you. However, a class of antibiotics known as fluoroquinolones can cause permanent and severe damage -- this is known as fluoroquinolone toxicity, or, in the US, fluoroquinolone induced disability - FQID. This is a global health care problem that few know about -- or are warned about by their doctor. Why is that?</p>
<p>In this episode, I chat with someone who has insight not only into the dynamics that keep this medical harm mostly hidden from the public, but has also been profoundly impacted by fluoroquinolones.</p>
<p>Marc from Germany is just one of 10s of 1000s of people around the planet who have been injured by these antibiotics. Marc shares how he finally connected the dots between his declining health and repeated use of fluoroquinolones, and what he does to help alleviate the toxicity symptoms so that he has an improved quality of life. </p>
<p>The statistics of harm from fluoroquinolone toxicity are vastly under reported because the toxicity symptoms may not noticeably manifest until days, weeks or months after the antibiotic use. This makes it difficult for those affected to identify the cause of their symptoms, and a challenge for physicians to tease out….or even acknowledge.</p>
<p>Symptoms include tendon rupture, aortic rupture, hypoglycemia, nerve damage, mental health issues and -- surprisingly to me -- a dysfunctional response to exercise known as post exertional malaise, the hallmark symptom of the neurological disease ME, or myalgic encephalomyelitis. As you will hear, Marc postulates that some people diagnosed with ME may have fluoroquinolone toxicity. Is he connecting more dots, that the medical system is missing?</p>
<p>Connect with Marc:</p>
<p>Twitter: @FQID2</p>
<p>Marc’s Doctor is Dr. Stefan Pieper</p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/yNKPFySmq4?amp=1'>https://praxisdrpieper.de</a></p>
<p>Dr Pieper released a "Springer essential" at scientific publisher Springer in German with basic facts about diagnosis and possible treatment regarding FQID (Fluoroquinolone Induced Disability)<a href='https://t.co/7SvxNGxmE1?amp=1'> </a><a href='https://springer.com'>https://springer.com</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the vast majority of people, you have probably taken an antibiotic at some point in your life.  And it probably helped you. However, a class of antibiotics known as fluoroquinolones can cause permanent and severe damage -- this is known as fluoroquinolone toxicity, or, in the US, fluoroquinolone induced disability - FQID. This is a global health care problem that few know about -- or are warned about by their doctor. Why is that?</p>
<p>In this episode, I chat with someone who has insight not only into the dynamics that keep this medical harm mostly hidden from the public, but has also been profoundly impacted by fluoroquinolones.</p>
<p>Marc from Germany is just one of 10s of 1000s of people around the planet who have been injured by these antibiotics. Marc shares how he finally connected the dots between his declining health and repeated use of fluoroquinolones, and what he does to help alleviate the toxicity symptoms so that he has an improved quality of life. </p>
<p>The statistics of harm from fluoroquinolone toxicity are vastly under reported because the toxicity symptoms may not noticeably manifest until days, weeks or months after the antibiotic use. This makes it difficult for those affected to identify the cause of their symptoms, and a challenge for physicians to tease out….or even acknowledge.</p>
<p>Symptoms include tendon rupture, aortic rupture, hypoglycemia, nerve damage, mental health issues and -- surprisingly to me -- a dysfunctional response to exercise known as post exertional malaise, the hallmark symptom of the neurological disease ME, or myalgic encephalomyelitis. As you will hear, Marc postulates that some people diagnosed with ME may have fluoroquinolone toxicity. Is he connecting more dots, that the medical system is missing?</p>
<p>Connect with Marc:</p>
<p>Twitter: @FQID2</p>
<p>Marc’s Doctor is Dr. Stefan Pieper</p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/yNKPFySmq4?amp=1'>https://praxisdrpieper.de</a></p>
<p>Dr Pieper released a "Springer essential" at scientific publisher Springer in German with basic facts about diagnosis and possible treatment regarding FQID (Fluoroquinolone Induced Disability)<a href='https://t.co/7SvxNGxmE1?amp=1'> </a><a href='https://springer.com'>https://springer.com</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Like the vast majority of people, you have probably taken an antibiotic at some point in your life.  And it probably helped you. However, a class of antibiotics known as fluoroquinolones can cause permanent and severe damage -- this is known as fluoroquinolone toxicity, or, in the US, fluoroquinolone induced disability - FQID. This is a global health care problem that few know about -- or are warned about by their doctor. Why is that?
In this episode, I chat with someone who has insight not only into the dynamics that keep this medical harm mostly hidden from the public, but has also been profoundly impacted by fluoroquinolones.
Marc from Germany is just one of 10s of 1000s of people around the planet who have been injured by these antibiotics. Marc shares how he finally connected the dots between his declining health and repeated use of fluoroquinolones, and what he does to help alleviate the toxicity symptoms so that he has an improved quality of life. 
The statistics of harm from fluoroquinolone toxicity are vastly under reported because the toxicity symptoms may not noticeably manifest until days, weeks or months after the antibiotic use. This makes it difficult for those affected to identify the cause of their symptoms, and a challenge for physicians to tease out….or even acknowledge.
Symptoms include tendon rupture, aortic rupture, hypoglycemia, nerve damage, mental health issues and -- surprisingly to me -- a dysfunctional response to exercise known as post exertional malaise, the hallmark symptom of the neurological disease ME, or myalgic encephalomyelitis. As you will hear, Marc postulates that some people diagnosed with ME may have fluoroquinolone toxicity. Is he connecting more dots, that the medical system is missing?
Connect with Marc:
Twitter: @FQID2
Marc’s Doctor is Dr. Stefan Pieper
https://praxisdrpieper.de
Dr Pieper released a "Springer essential" at scientific publisher Springer in German with basic facts about diagnosis and possible treatment regarding FQID (Fluoroquinolone Induced Disability) https://springer.com
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Multiple award winning author Marcus Sedgwick is best known for his popular fiction books, but his experiences with deeply entrenched medical gaslighting inspired his new book titled “All In Your Head - What happens when your doctor doesn’t believe you.”</p>
<p>Marcus describes how he got sick with flu like symptoms...but they never went away. Marcus was thrown into a world he did not even know existed, a world where very sick people are disbelieved and often belittled by physicians. A world Marcus is also seeing unfold for the millions of Long COVID patients around the world, where their physical symptoms are often dismissed as psychological. With Long COVID we are witnessing millions of people being medically traumatized by global gaslighting. </p>
<p>Marcus and I discuss the immense pressure physicians are under, from the government and insurance companies, and why the medical system has been set up so that it is in the physician’s best interest to say ‘it’s in your head’ rather than in your body. #FollowTheMoney</p>
<p>Connect with Marcus Sedgwick</p>
<p><a href='http://www.marcussedgwick.com/'>www.marcussedgwick.com</a></p>
<p>‘All In Your Head’ preview: </p>
<p><a href='https://marcussedgwick.com/all-in-your-head/'>https://marcussedgwick.com/all-in-your-head/</a></p>
<p>Twitter: @marcussedgwick </p>
<p>Instagram: @marcussedgwick</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Multiple award winning author Marcus Sedgwick is best known for his popular fiction books, but his experiences with deeply entrenched medical gaslighting inspired his new book titled “All In Your Head - What happens when your doctor doesn’t believe you.”</p>
<p>Marcus describes how he got sick with flu like symptoms...but they never went away. Marcus was thrown into a world he did not even know existed, a world where very sick people are disbelieved and often belittled by physicians. A world Marcus is also seeing unfold for the millions of Long COVID patients around the world, where their physical symptoms are often dismissed as psychological. With Long COVID we are witnessing millions of people being medically traumatized by global gaslighting. </p>
<p>Marcus and I discuss the immense pressure physicians are under, from the government and insurance companies, and why the medical system has been set up so that it is in the physician’s best interest to say ‘it’s in your head’ rather than in your body. #FollowTheMoney</p>
<p>Connect with Marcus Sedgwick</p>
<p><a href='http://www.marcussedgwick.com/'>www.marcussedgwick.com</a></p>
<p>‘All In Your Head’ preview: </p>
<p><a href='https://marcussedgwick.com/all-in-your-head/'>https://marcussedgwick.com/all-in-your-head/</a></p>
<p>Twitter: @marcussedgwick </p>
<p>Instagram: @marcussedgwick</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Multiple award winning author Marcus Sedgwick is best known for his popular fiction books, but his experiences with deeply entrenched medical gaslighting inspired his new book titled “All In Your Head - What happens when your doctor doesn’t believe you.”
Marcus describes how he got sick with flu like symptoms...but they never went away. Marcus was thrown into a world he did not even know existed, a world where very sick people are disbelieved and often belittled by physicians. A world Marcus is also seeing unfold for the millions of Long COVID patients around the world, where their physical symptoms are often dismissed as psychological. With Long COVID we are witnessing millions of people being medically traumatized by global gaslighting. 
Marcus and I discuss the immense pressure physicians are under, from the government and insurance companies, and why the medical system has been set up so that it is in the physician’s best interest to say ‘it’s in your head’ rather than in your body. #FollowTheMoney
Connect with Marcus Sedgwick
www.marcussedgwick.com
‘All In Your Head’ preview: 
https://marcussedgwick.com/all-in-your-head/
Twitter: @marcussedgwick 
Instagram: @marcussedgwick
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
 
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When Alice Urbino was a young teenager she got the flu and never got better. Her mother - desperate for her daughter to recover - paid for what she thought was a legitimate treatment -- even though young Alice could plainly see the ‘lightning process’ was based on pseudoscience.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, Alice was pressured to partake in a cult like atmosphere with absurd rituals that amounted to brain washing. Alice was made to believe that she chose to be sick, and that even expressing feelings of nausea or fatigue were signs that she wasn’t trying hard enough and that she had the wrong attitude and that’s why she was still sick.</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, young Alice was brain washed and internalized the blame and shame and soon became depressed and started hating herself. For years, belief in this ‘treatment’ affected Alice’s mental health and belief in herself and the physical symptoms she experienced.</p>
<p>In our interview, Alice tells us how she overcame the internalized gaslighting caused by the lightning process, and to warn us about what she learned about the lightning process’s infamous founder Phil Parker, who professes to have the “ability to step into other people’s bodies...to assist them in their healing”. Parker - who is often called out as a charlatan on social media - has a long history of financially preying on the sick, vulnerable and desperate.</p>
<p>Link to Phil Parker’s old prototype page: https://t.co/VNjPRdxjjd?amp=1</p>
<p>Connect with Alice Urbino:</p>
<p>twitter and instagram are both<a href='https://twitter.com/aliceurbino'> @aliceurbino</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Alice Urbino was a young teenager she got the flu and never got better. Her mother - desperate for her daughter to recover - paid for what she thought was a legitimate treatment -- even though young Alice could plainly see the ‘lightning process’ was based on pseudoscience.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, Alice was pressured to partake in a cult like atmosphere with absurd rituals that amounted to brain washing. Alice was made to believe that she chose to be sick, and that even expressing feelings of nausea or fatigue were signs that she wasn’t trying hard enough and that she had the wrong attitude and that’s why she was still sick.</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, young Alice was brain washed and internalized the blame and shame and soon became depressed and started hating herself. For years, belief in this ‘treatment’ affected Alice’s mental health and belief in herself and the physical symptoms she experienced.</p>
<p>In our interview, Alice tells us how she overcame the internalized gaslighting caused by the lightning process, and to warn us about what she learned about the lightning process’s infamous founder Phil Parker, who professes to have the “ability to step into other people’s bodies...to assist them in their healing”. Parker - who is often called out as a charlatan on social media - has a long history of financially preying on the sick, vulnerable and desperate.</p>
<p>Link to Phil Parker’s old prototype page: https://t.co/VNjPRdxjjd?amp=1</p>
<p>Connect with Alice Urbino:</p>
<p>twitter and instagram are both<a href='https://twitter.com/aliceurbino'> @aliceurbino</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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Nevertheless, Alice was pressured to partake in a cult like atmosphere with absurd rituals that amounted to brain washing. Alice was made to believe that she chose to be sick, and that even expressing feelings of nausea or fatigue were signs that she wasn’t trying hard enough and that she had the wrong attitude and that’s why she was still sick.
Not surprisingly, young Alice was brain washed and internalized the blame and shame and soon became depressed and started hating herself. For years, belief in this ‘treatment’ affected Alice’s mental health and belief in herself and the physical symptoms she experienced.
In our interview, Alice tells us how she overcame the internalized gaslighting caused by the lightning process, and to warn us about what she learned about the lightning process’s infamous founder Phil Parker, who professes to have the “ability to step into other people’s bodies...to assist them in their healing”. Parker - who is often called out as a charlatan on social media - has a long history of financially preying on the sick, vulnerable and desperate.
Link to Phil Parker’s old prototype page: https://t.co/VNjPRdxjjd?amp=1
Connect with Alice Urbino:
twitter and instagram are both @aliceurbino
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
 
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Clark had it all. Successful career. Great relationships. Healthy body.</p>
<p>When Ryan noticed a bit of hair loss, like many men, he took a common medication known as Propecia to promote hair growth. </p>
<p>Unbeknownst to Ryan, Propecia can cause post-finasteride syndrome - causing sexual, neurological, physical and cognitive adverse reactions - it is a condition with no known cure and few, if any, effective treatments. </p>
<p>In the ensuing years, Ryan’s body started to break down and unfamiliar and confusing symptoms manifested: anxiety, trouble sleeping, erectile dysfunction and memory problems. </p>
<p>But his doctors were not making the connection between Ryan’s symptoms and the hair growth medication -- even after Ryan developed testicular cancer -- very few physicians are even aware of post finasteride syndrome. </p>
<p>In our interview Ryan shares the heartbreaking losses he’s suffered to his health, his relationships and his career as a direct result of the medication -- and Ryan shares about how he’s finding meaning in helping and supporting other men who’ve had their lives ruined by a medication the health care system fails to recognize, let alone treat.</p>
<p>Connect with Ryan Clark</p>
<p><a href='https://twitter.com/RyanCla64726007'>https://twitter.com/RyanCla64726007</a></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/ryan.clark.589583</p>
<p><a href='https://www.propeciahelp.com/'>https://www.propeciahelp.com/</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Clark had it all. Successful career. Great relationships. Healthy body.</p>
<p>When Ryan noticed a bit of hair loss, like many men, he took a common medication known as Propecia to promote hair growth. </p>
<p>Unbeknownst to Ryan, Propecia can cause post-finasteride syndrome - causing sexual, neurological, physical and cognitive adverse reactions - it is a condition with no known cure and few, if any, effective treatments. </p>
<p>In the ensuing years, Ryan’s body started to break down and unfamiliar and confusing symptoms manifested: anxiety, trouble sleeping, erectile dysfunction and memory problems. </p>
<p>But his doctors were not making the connection between Ryan’s symptoms and the hair growth medication -- even after Ryan developed testicular cancer -- very few physicians are even aware of post finasteride syndrome. </p>
<p>In our interview Ryan shares the heartbreaking losses he’s suffered to his health, his relationships and his career as a direct result of the medication -- and Ryan shares about how he’s finding meaning in helping and supporting other men who’ve had their lives ruined by a medication the health care system fails to recognize, let alone treat.</p>
<p>Connect with Ryan Clark</p>
<p><a href='https://twitter.com/RyanCla64726007'>https://twitter.com/RyanCla64726007</a></p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/ryan.clark.589583</p>
<p><a href='https://www.propeciahelp.com/'>https://www.propeciahelp.com/</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ryan Clark had it all. Successful career. Great relationships. Healthy body.
When Ryan noticed a bit of hair loss, like many men, he took a common medication known as Propecia to promote hair growth. 
Unbeknownst to Ryan, Propecia can cause post-finasteride syndrome - causing sexual, neurological, physical and cognitive adverse reactions - it is a condition with no known cure and few, if any, effective treatments. 
In the ensuing years, Ryan’s body started to break down and unfamiliar and confusing symptoms manifested: anxiety, trouble sleeping, erectile dysfunction and memory problems. 
But his doctors were not making the connection between Ryan’s symptoms and the hair growth medication -- even after Ryan developed testicular cancer -- very few physicians are even aware of post finasteride syndrome. 
In our interview Ryan shares the heartbreaking losses he’s suffered to his health, his relationships and his career as a direct result of the medication -- and Ryan shares about how he’s finding meaning in helping and supporting other men who’ve had their lives ruined by a medication the health care system fails to recognize, let alone treat.
Connect with Ryan Clark
https://twitter.com/RyanCla64726007
https://www.facebook.com/ryan.clark.589583
https://www.propeciahelp.com/
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Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the s]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>If a surgeon told you that they were going to implant plastic mesh around an organ -- perhaps your bladder or bowel -- and screw the ends into your pelvis and spine -- would you have that surgery?</p>
<p>What if the surgeon also told you the plastic mesh may disintegrate and release toxins into your body causing multi system dysfunction -- and that the plastic may twist and puncture your organs or press against nerves causing suicidal level pain when you move -- would you have that surgery?</p>
<p>What if the surgeon also told you that if you experience these symptoms --- that no doctor will have been educated to look for the signs of plastic mesh injury  --- that no doctor will believe you if you think the symptoms are caused by the plastic mesh --- that you will be gaslighted so often that the gaslighting becomes internalized -- would you have that surgery?</p>
<p>What if the surgeon told you that the plastic mesh has an expiry date and that protects the manufacturer from medical negligence lawsuits --- and that the expiry date is not from the date of the implant, but from the date of manufacturing -- so the plastic mesh can sit on the shelf for many years before it gets implanted -- would you have that surgery?</p>
<p>If a surgeon told you that plastic mesh may ruin your physical health, cause intractable pain, disable you from working or exercising or socializing so that you lose your career, your home and your future and quality of life may plummet -- would you have that surgery?</p>
<p>Sally Maddocks was not informed of any of these possible outcomes when the doctor recommended surgery. And Sally is not alone in having her life irrevocably harmed by corporate profits over patient safety. But Sally is fighting back with a petition to raise awareness so others avoid potential harm, and to hold her government accountable for their actions.</p>
<p>Connect with Sally Maddocks:</p>
<p>https://twitter.com/maddocks_sally</p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/yY8SmvDyCC?amp=1'>https://facebook.com/groups/2327576</a></p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/OFEbzdVG5m?amp=1'>https://facebook.com/groups/1567096</a></p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/S3yU4XHIGz?amp=1'>https://facebook.com/groups/117040</a></p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/n21JUlSLeR?amp=1'>https://facebook.com/groups/2039629</a></p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/PABs0HkgSo?amp=1'>https://facebook.com/groups/325473</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a surgeon told you that they were going to implant plastic mesh around an organ -- perhaps your bladder or bowel -- and screw the ends into your pelvis and spine -- would you have that surgery?</p>
<p>What if the surgeon also told you the plastic mesh may disintegrate and release toxins into your body causing multi system dysfunction -- and that the plastic may twist and puncture your organs or press against nerves causing suicidal level pain when you move -- would you have that surgery?</p>
<p>What if the surgeon also told you that if you experience these symptoms --- that no doctor will have been educated to look for the signs of plastic mesh injury  --- that no doctor will believe you if you think the symptoms are caused by the plastic mesh --- that you will be gaslighted so often that the gaslighting becomes internalized -- would you have that surgery?</p>
<p>What if the surgeon told you that the plastic mesh has an expiry date and that protects the manufacturer from medical negligence lawsuits --- and that the expiry date is not from the date of the implant, but from the date of manufacturing -- so the plastic mesh can sit on the shelf for many years before it gets implanted -- would you have that surgery?</p>
<p>If a surgeon told you that plastic mesh may ruin your physical health, cause intractable pain, disable you from working or exercising or socializing so that you lose your career, your home and your future and quality of life may plummet -- would you have that surgery?</p>
<p>Sally Maddocks was not informed of any of these possible outcomes when the doctor recommended surgery. And Sally is not alone in having her life irrevocably harmed by corporate profits over patient safety. But Sally is fighting back with a petition to raise awareness so others avoid potential harm, and to hold her government accountable for their actions.</p>
<p>Connect with Sally Maddocks:</p>
<p>https://twitter.com/maddocks_sally</p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/yY8SmvDyCC?amp=1'>https://facebook.com/groups/2327576</a></p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/OFEbzdVG5m?amp=1'>https://facebook.com/groups/1567096</a></p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/S3yU4XHIGz?amp=1'>https://facebook.com/groups/117040</a></p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/n21JUlSLeR?amp=1'>https://facebook.com/groups/2039629</a></p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/PABs0HkgSo?amp=1'>https://facebook.com/groups/325473</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[If a surgeon told you that they were going to implant plastic mesh around an organ -- perhaps your bladder or bowel -- and screw the ends into your pelvis and spine -- would you have that surgery?
What if the surgeon also told you the plastic mesh may disintegrate and release toxins into your body causing multi system dysfunction -- and that the plastic may twist and puncture your organs or press against nerves causing suicidal level pain when you move -- would you have that surgery?
What if the surgeon also told you that if you experience these symptoms --- that no doctor will have been educated to look for the signs of plastic mesh injury  --- that no doctor will believe you if you think the symptoms are caused by the plastic mesh --- that you will be gaslighted so often that the gaslighting becomes internalized -- would you have that surgery?
What if the surgeon told you that the plastic mesh has an expiry date and that protects the manufacturer from medical negligence lawsuits --- and that the expiry date is not from the date of the implant, but from the date of manufacturing -- so the plastic mesh can sit on the shelf for many years before it gets implanted -- would you have that surgery?
If a surgeon told you that plastic mesh may ruin your physical health, cause intractable pain, disable you from working or exercising or socializing so that you lose your career, your home and your future and quality of life may plummet -- would you have that surgery?
Sally Maddocks was not informed of any of these possible outcomes when the doctor recommended surgery. And Sally is not alone in having her life irrevocably harmed by corporate profits over patient safety. But Sally is fighting back with a petition to raise awareness so others avoid potential harm, and to hold her government accountable for their actions.
Connect with Sally Maddocks:
https://twitter.com/maddocks_sally
https://facebook.com/groups/2327576
https://facebook.com/groups/1567096
https://facebook.com/groups/117040
https://facebook.com/groups/2039629
https://facebook.com/groups/325473
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report v]]></itunes:summary>
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        <itunes:title>Dr Simon Breidert: How Post Finasteride Syndrome changed his view of his specialty: psychosomatic medicine</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/dr-simon-breidert-how-post-finasteride-syndrome-changed-his-view-of-his-specialty-psychosomatic-medicine/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 04:20:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When Dr Simon Breidert tried to discontinue use of the hair growth medication Finasteride, he experienced a myriad of very disturbing and disabling symptoms in multiple body systems.</p>
<p>But the medical system doesn’t recognize Post Finasteride Syndrome and has labeled any one who says they experience those symptoms as hysterical. Dr Breidert was now confronted by his own profession’s deeply embedded medical bias. Simon was experiencing horrible physical symptoms, but the health care system had already decided his diagnosis is psychosomatic. Talk about major cognitive dissonance. Simon had to reconcile years of medical education that psychologizes everything it does not yet understand, with his own body’s experience.</p>
<p>Simon and I talk about how his body broke down, his hellish health care journey and the strategies he employs to manage Post Finasteride Syndrome. Simon also shares what he now thinks of the medical system, psychiatry and psychosomatic medicine, and how he’s leveraging the trauma of serious illness and medical marginalization and gaslighting, into growth by founding the charity PFS Research.</p>
<p>Connect with Dr Simon Breidert</p>
<p>https://twitter.com/simonbreidert</p>
<p>https://www.pfsresearch.org/</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p> 
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Dr Simon Breidert tried to discontinue use of the hair growth medication Finasteride, he experienced a myriad of very disturbing and disabling symptoms in multiple body systems.</p>
<p>But the medical system doesn’t recognize Post Finasteride Syndrome and has labeled any one who says they experience those symptoms as hysterical. Dr Breidert was now confronted by his own profession’s deeply embedded medical bias. Simon was experiencing horrible physical symptoms, but the health care system had already decided his diagnosis is psychosomatic. Talk about major cognitive dissonance. Simon had to reconcile years of medical education that psychologizes everything it does not yet understand, with his own body’s experience.</p>
<p>Simon and I talk about how his body broke down, his hellish health care journey and the strategies he employs to manage Post Finasteride Syndrome. Simon also shares what he now thinks of the medical system, psychiatry and psychosomatic medicine, and how he’s leveraging the trauma of serious illness and medical marginalization and gaslighting, into growth by founding the charity PFS Research.</p>
<p>Connect with Dr Simon Breidert</p>
<p>https://twitter.com/simonbreidert</p>
<p>https://www.pfsresearch.org/</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p> <br>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When Dr Simon Breidert tried to discontinue use of the hair growth medication Finasteride, he experienced a myriad of very disturbing and disabling symptoms in multiple body systems.
But the medical system doesn’t recognize Post Finasteride Syndrome and has labeled any one who says they experience those symptoms as hysterical. Dr Breidert was now confronted by his own profession’s deeply embedded medical bias. Simon was experiencing horrible physical symptoms, but the health care system had already decided his diagnosis is psychosomatic. Talk about major cognitive dissonance. Simon had to reconcile years of medical education that psychologizes everything it does not yet understand, with his own body’s experience.
Simon and I talk about how his body broke down, his hellish health care journey and the strategies he employs to manage Post Finasteride Syndrome. Simon also shares what he now thinks of the medical system, psychiatry and psychosomatic medicine, and how he’s leveraging the trauma of serious illness and medical marginalization and gaslighting, into growth by founding the charity PFS Research.
Connect with Dr Simon Breidert
https://twitter.com/simonbreidert
https://www.pfsresearch.org/
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com
 
Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>It is an open secret that hospitals’ standard of practice is to deny, diminish or cover up their medical errors. When they occur, there is often immense pressure from hospital administrators on employees to conform to a narrative that protects the hospital. The employee may feel that their job and career are in jeopardy, and they may feel peer pressure to ‘not rock the boat’ and protect their health care colleagues.</p>
<p>Nurse Shirley Barker found herself in exactly that pressure cooker when a police sheriff who was shot multiple times in a high profile shoot out ended up under Shirley’s care. Although seriously injured, the next day he was recovering and his family was in the waiting room while the doctor examined him. The physician asked Shirley to administer a medication, but she refused because of safety concerns. The physician himself then injected the medication -- and immediately the sheriff’s vital signs dropped and Shirley witnessed his death...by physician.</p>
<p>In our interview Shirley shares the highly pressured experience of being a hospital’s employee and a key witness in a court case about a medical death in that hospital. Shirley also shares how her father’s death involved medical error and how these cumulative experiences have impacted her life’s path.</p>
<p>Connect with Shirley Barker:</p>
<p>Facebook.com/Wellness-Island</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an open secret that hospitals’ standard of practice is to deny, diminish or cover up their medical errors. When they occur, there is often immense pressure from hospital administrators on employees to conform to a narrative that protects the hospital. The employee may feel that their job and career are in jeopardy, and they may feel peer pressure to ‘not rock the boat’ and protect their health care colleagues.</p>
<p>Nurse Shirley Barker found herself in exactly that pressure cooker when a police sheriff who was shot multiple times in a high profile shoot out ended up under Shirley’s care. Although seriously injured, the next day he was recovering and his family was in the waiting room while the doctor examined him. The physician asked Shirley to administer a medication, but she refused because of safety concerns. The physician himself then injected the medication -- and immediately the sheriff’s vital signs dropped and Shirley witnessed his death...by physician.</p>
<p>In our interview Shirley shares the highly pressured experience of being a hospital’s employee <em>and</em> a key witness in a court case about a medical death in that hospital. Shirley also shares how her father’s death involved medical error and how these cumulative experiences have impacted her life’s path.</p>
<p>Connect with Shirley Barker:</p>
<p>Facebook.com/Wellness-Island</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[It is an open secret that hospitals’ standard of practice is to deny, diminish or cover up their medical errors. When they occur, there is often immense pressure from hospital administrators on employees to conform to a narrative that protects the hospital. The employee may feel that their job and career are in jeopardy, and they may feel peer pressure to ‘not rock the boat’ and protect their health care colleagues.
Nurse Shirley Barker found herself in exactly that pressure cooker when a police sheriff who was shot multiple times in a high profile shoot out ended up under Shirley’s care. Although seriously injured, the next day he was recovering and his family was in the waiting room while the doctor examined him. The physician asked Shirley to administer a medication, but she refused because of safety concerns. The physician himself then injected the medication -- and immediately the sheriff’s vital signs dropped and Shirley witnessed his death...by physician.
In our interview Shirley shares the highly pressured experience of being a hospital’s employee and a key witness in a court case about a medical death in that hospital. Shirley also shares how her father’s death involved medical error and how these cumulative experiences have impacted her life’s path.
Connect with Shirley Barker:
Facebook.com/Wellness-Island
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
 
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Medicine is so messed up. It has been fatally bitten by its own dogma. </p>
<p>When singer-songwriter Dana Parish suddenly got very sick, she quickly had a correct diagnosis of Lyme disease and was given the standard antibiotic treatment. But Dana never fully recovered and eventually ended up in heart failure.</p>
<p>Dana saw many top doctors in New York and they all missed the ongoing underlying infection that would lead to Dana’s heart failure. None of these physicians could wrap their heads around the idea that Dana had been under treated for Lyme disease and it was causing her impending death.</p>
<p>Like other medically marginalized and discriminated diseases, chronic Lyme infection has been maligned and neglected by the very system that purports to provide medical care. This reflects the heart of the problem with our health care: entrenched discriminatory dogma in a closed system.</p>
<p>Eventually Dana found Dr Steven Phillips, who was already an internationally renowned physician specializing in complex, chronic diseases when he became a patient himself. After nearly dying from his own mystery illness, he experienced firsthand the medical community’s ignorance about the pathogens that underlie a deep spectrum of serious conditions—from fibromyalgia, multiple sclerosis and myalgic encephalomyelitis (MEcfs) to depression, anxiety, OCD and neurodegenerative disorders.</p>
<p>In their book Chronic: The Hidden Cause of the Autoimmune Pandemic, Dana and Dr Phillips explore the science behind common infections that are difficult to diagnose and treat and debunk widely held false beliefs by doctors that keep patients chronically sick.</p>
<p>With the Covid pandemic still going parabolic, and the number of Long Covid patients with chronic autoimmune symptoms also skyrocketing, their book could not be more timely.</p>
<p>Connect with Dana Parish:</p>
<p>Thechronicbook.com</p>
<p>Facebook.com/thechronicbook</p>
<p>Twitter @Lymebook</p>
<p>IG: Instagram.com/thechronicbook</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medicine is so messed up. It has been fatally bitten by its own dogma. </p>
<p>When singer-songwriter Dana Parish suddenly got very sick, she quickly had a correct diagnosis of Lyme disease and was given the standard antibiotic treatment. But Dana never fully recovered and eventually ended up in heart failure.</p>
<p>Dana saw many top doctors in New York and they all missed the ongoing underlying infection that would lead to Dana’s heart failure. None of these physicians could wrap their heads around the idea that Dana had been under treated for Lyme disease and it was causing her impending death.</p>
<p>Like other medically marginalized and discriminated diseases, chronic Lyme infection has been maligned and neglected by the very system that purports to provide medical care. This reflects the heart of the problem with our health care: entrenched discriminatory dogma in a closed system.</p>
<p>Eventually Dana found Dr Steven Phillips, who was already an internationally renowned physician specializing in complex, chronic diseases when he became a patient himself. After nearly dying from his own mystery illness, he experienced firsthand the medical community’s ignorance about the pathogens that underlie a deep spectrum of serious conditions—from fibromyalgia, multiple sclerosis and myalgic encephalomyelitis (MEcfs) to depression, anxiety, OCD and neurodegenerative disorders.</p>
<p>In their book <em>Chronic: The Hidden Cause of the Autoimmune Pandemic</em>, Dana and Dr Phillips explore the science behind common infections that are difficult to diagnose and treat and debunk widely held false beliefs by doctors that keep patients chronically sick.</p>
<p>With the Covid pandemic still going parabolic, and the number of Long Covid patients with chronic autoimmune symptoms also skyrocketing, their book could not be more timely.</p>
<p>Connect with Dana Parish:</p>
<p>Thechronicbook.com</p>
<p>Facebook.com/thechronicbook</p>
<p>Twitter @Lymebook</p>
<p>IG: Instagram.com/thechronicbook</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Medicine is so messed up. It has been fatally bitten by its own dogma. 
When singer-songwriter Dana Parish suddenly got very sick, she quickly had a correct diagnosis of Lyme disease and was given the standard antibiotic treatment. But Dana never fully recovered and eventually ended up in heart failure.
Dana saw many top doctors in New York and they all missed the ongoing underlying infection that would lead to Dana’s heart failure. None of these physicians could wrap their heads around the idea that Dana had been under treated for Lyme disease and it was causing her impending death.
Like other medically marginalized and discriminated diseases, chronic Lyme infection has been maligned and neglected by the very system that purports to provide medical care. This reflects the heart of the problem with our health care: entrenched discriminatory dogma in a closed system.
Eventually Dana found Dr Steven Phillips, who was already an internationally renowned physician specializing in complex, chronic diseases when he became a patient himself. After nearly dying from his own mystery illness, he experienced firsthand the medical community’s ignorance about the pathogens that underlie a deep spectrum of serious conditions—from fibromyalgia, multiple sclerosis and myalgic encephalomyelitis (MEcfs) to depression, anxiety, OCD and neurodegenerative disorders.
In their book Chronic: The Hidden Cause of the Autoimmune Pandemic, Dana and Dr Phillips explore the science behind common infections that are difficult to diagnose and treat and debunk widely held false beliefs by doctors that keep patients chronically sick.
With the Covid pandemic still going parabolic, and the number of Long Covid patients with chronic autoimmune symptoms also skyrocketing, their book could not be more timely.
Connect with Dana Parish:
Thechronicbook.com
Facebook.com/thechronicbook
Twitter @Lymebook
IG: Instagram.com/thechronicbook
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com
 
Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
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        <title>Denise Crawley: To err is human: A nurse shares her medical errors and how the system responded</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When nurse Denise Crawley connected with me about sharing her experiences with her own medical errors in the workplace, I thought it was a great opportunity to hear from a health care worker from their side and perspective of medical errors.</p>
<p>As Denise states, there is a big problem with how the health care system responds to medical error, especially how systemic contributors to medical error are rarely addressed, and how the response tends to focus on individual blame. This in turn fosters a medical culture of cover up, denial and fear. </p>
<p>With medical error being the 3rd leading cause of death for many decades, it is self evident that the current process of dealing with medical mistakes is fatally flawed. </p>
<p>Denise refers to it as the Swiss Cheese model of how medical errors manifest in that within the various layers of healthcare, there are holes in each layer, and when these holes line up, medical harm and death can happen.</p>
<p>While we often think of medical trauma exclusive to the patient, as Denise shares, health care workers can be traumatized by participating or witnessing or covering up medical errors. Denise has had to deal with the trauma, and as you’ll hear, is experiencing post traumatic growth.</p>
<p>Connect with Denise Crawley</p>
<p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/denise.elaine0218</p>
<p>Twitter: https://twitter.com/denisecrawley</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When nurse Denise Crawley connected with me about sharing her experiences with her own medical errors in the workplace, I thought it was a great opportunity to hear from a health care worker from their side and perspective of medical errors.</p>
<p>As Denise states, there is a big problem with how the health care system responds to medical error, especially how systemic contributors to medical error are rarely addressed, and how the response tends to focus on individual blame. This in turn fosters a medical culture of cover up, denial and fear. </p>
<p>With medical error being the 3rd leading cause of death for many decades, it is self evident that the current process of dealing with medical mistakes is fatally flawed. </p>
<p>Denise refers to it as the Swiss Cheese model of how medical errors manifest in that within the various layers of healthcare, there are holes in each layer, and when these holes line up, medical harm and death can happen.</p>
<p>While we often think of medical trauma exclusive to the patient, as Denise shares, health care workers can be traumatized by participating or witnessing or covering up medical errors. Denise has had to deal with the trauma, and as you’ll hear, is experiencing post traumatic growth.</p>
<p>Connect with Denise Crawley</p>
<p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/denise.elaine0218</p>
<p>Twitter: https://twitter.com/denisecrawley</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When nurse Denise Crawley connected with me about sharing her experiences with her own medical errors in the workplace, I thought it was a great opportunity to hear from a health care worker from their side and perspective of medical errors.
As Denise states, there is a big problem with how the health care system responds to medical error, especially how systemic contributors to medical error are rarely addressed, and how the response tends to focus on individual blame. This in turn fosters a medical culture of cover up, denial and fear. 
With medical error being the 3rd leading cause of death for many decades, it is self evident that the current process of dealing with medical mistakes is fatally flawed. 
Denise refers to it as the Swiss Cheese model of how medical errors manifest in that within the various layers of healthcare, there are holes in each layer, and when these holes line up, medical harm and death can happen.
While we often think of medical trauma exclusive to the patient, as Denise shares, health care workers can be traumatized by participating or witnessing or covering up medical errors. Denise has had to deal with the trauma, and as you’ll hear, is experiencing post traumatic growth.
Connect with Denise Crawley
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/denise.elaine0218
Twitter: https://twitter.com/denisecrawley
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again ]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>Maya Dusenbery: Author of "Doing Harm: The Truth About How Bad Medicine and Lazy Science Leave Women Dismissed, Misdiagnosed, and Sick"</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When author Maya Dusenbery started to experience pain after a viral infection, she was introduced to a medical system that mostly marginalizes women and dismisses diseases that predominantly affect women. </p>
<p>This of course will come as no surprise to any female that has a disease the medical system does not readily recognize. If that disease doesn’t have a biomarker yet, doctors will often attribute women’s physical symptoms as psychological in origin. This is known as medical gaslighting and its origins can be traced back to the cocaine fueled thinking of Sigmund Freud and beyond.</p>
<p>In spite of medicine and research claiming to be self correcting institutions, Maya lays out the problems embedded in research, diagnosis and treatment and identifies 2 cracks - or what Maya calls ‘gaps’ - in the health care system: A knowledge gap and a trust gap, and the feedback loop that sustains them.</p>
<p>In this interview, we unpack Maya’s experience with the health care system and why it prompted her to take a deep dive into exposing the systemic gaps in women’s access to appropriate research data and treatment protocols.</p>
<p>Connect with Maya Dusenbery</p>
<p><a href='https://www.mayadusenbery.com/'>https://www.mayadusenbery.com/</a></p>
<p><a href='https://twitter.com/mayadusenbery'>https://twitter.com/mayadusenbery</a></p>
<p>Buy Maya’s book on <a href='https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=Doing+Harm%3A+The+Truth+About+How+Bad+Medicine+and+Lazy+Science+Leave+Women+Dismissed%2C+Misdiagnosed%2C+and+Sick&linkCode=gs3&tag=haperpublican-20&ref=cm_sw_su_dp'>Amazon</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When author Maya Dusenbery started to experience pain after a viral infection, she was introduced to a medical system that mostly marginalizes women and dismisses diseases that predominantly affect women. </p>
<p>This of course will come as no surprise to any female that has a disease the medical system does not readily recognize. If that disease doesn’t have a biomarker yet, doctors will often attribute women’s physical symptoms as psychological in origin. This is known as medical gaslighting and its origins can be traced back to the cocaine fueled thinking of Sigmund Freud and beyond.</p>
<p>In spite of medicine and research claiming to be self correcting institutions, Maya lays out the problems embedded in research, diagnosis and treatment and identifies 2 cracks - or what Maya calls ‘gaps’ - in the health care system: A knowledge gap and a trust gap, and the feedback loop that sustains them.</p>
<p>In this interview, we unpack Maya’s experience with the health care system and why it prompted her to take a deep dive into exposing the systemic gaps in women’s access to appropriate research data and treatment protocols.</p>
<p>Connect with Maya Dusenbery</p>
<p><a href='https://www.mayadusenbery.com/'>https://www.mayadusenbery.com/</a></p>
<p><a href='https://twitter.com/mayadusenbery'>https://twitter.com/mayadusenbery</a></p>
<p>Buy Maya’s book on <a href='https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=Doing+Harm%3A+The+Truth+About+How+Bad+Medicine+and+Lazy+Science+Leave+Women+Dismissed%2C+Misdiagnosed%2C+and+Sick&linkCode=gs3&tag=haperpublican-20&ref=cm_sw_su_dp'>Amazon</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When author Maya Dusenbery started to experience pain after a viral infection, she was introduced to a medical system that mostly marginalizes women and dismisses diseases that predominantly affect women. 
This of course will come as no surprise to any female that has a disease the medical system does not readily recognize. If that disease doesn’t have a biomarker yet, doctors will often attribute women’s physical symptoms as psychological in origin. This is known as medical gaslighting and its origins can be traced back to the cocaine fueled thinking of Sigmund Freud and beyond.
In spite of medicine and research claiming to be self correcting institutions, Maya lays out the problems embedded in research, diagnosis and treatment and identifies 2 cracks - or what Maya calls ‘gaps’ - in the health care system: A knowledge gap and a trust gap, and the feedback loop that sustains them.
In this interview, we unpack Maya’s experience with the health care system and why it prompted her to take a deep dive into exposing the systemic gaps in women’s access to appropriate research data and treatment protocols.
Connect with Maya Dusenbery
https://www.mayadusenbery.com/
https://twitter.com/mayadusenbery
Buy Maya’s book on Amazon
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.
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        <title>Anton for Holger Klintenberg: #HelpHolgerNow: “We’re fighting for his life” against the medical system</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>“We’re living in a horror movie” says Anton, speaking for his brother Holger who is so severely sick that he cannot eat or drink and has to be tube fed. Yet the Swedish medical system thinks Holger has a psychiatric disorder and has threatened to have him forcibly committed to an institution against his wishes. </p>
<p>If the medical system succeeds, it will probably kill Holger. </p>
<p>Anton, and the rest of Holger’s family, are fighting a medical system that does not recognize or understand the disease myalgic encephalomyelitis, or ME. Holger’s family have started a public campaign including social media to #HelpHolgerNow to save him from a torturous death at the hands of the medical system.</p>
<p>I interviewed Anton about Holger on December 21st --- subsequently Anton emailed me this message about their medical system: </p>
<p>“the police report was regarding them tricking Holger to the psychiatric ward in the beginning of December.</p>
<p>IVO is the healthcare inspektion authority. We are working on a new report to them covering a bigger picture with all the things that happened this fall, the psychiatric ward in the beginning of December...and also their threat of forced institutionalization.</p>
<p>Holger has been denied to seek a doctor of his own choice because he lives in the care home. But our lawyer says that that is not legal. So we are now trying to find a doctor we can trust and do not deny ME. We know who we want and hope she says yes.</p>
<p>We have not accepted the healthcare director's reply and asked him to invite us to a meeting and also give us an informed answer because he obviously isn't aware of the details. He is now questioned already by IVO because of the region's handling of Covid-19 patients. They have failed.”</p>
<p>To follow and support Holger and see if the Swedish medical system tortures and kills him, go to Help Holger Now on Facebook:</p>
<p>#HelpHolgerNow</p>
<p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/helpholgernow</p>
<p>(MEpedia entry about Sophia Mirza who had ME and died after being forcibly moved to a psychiatric institution: <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Sophia_Mirza'>https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Sophia_Mirza</a> )</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We’re living in a horror movie” says Anton, speaking for his brother Holger who is so severely sick that he cannot eat or drink and has to be tube fed. Yet the Swedish medical system thinks Holger has a psychiatric disorder and has threatened to have him forcibly committed to an institution against his wishes. </p>
<p>If the medical system succeeds, it will probably kill Holger. </p>
<p>Anton, and the rest of Holger’s family, are fighting a medical system that does not recognize or understand the disease myalgic encephalomyelitis, or ME. Holger’s family have started a public campaign including social media to #HelpHolgerNow to save him from a torturous death at the hands of the medical system.</p>
<p>I interviewed Anton about Holger on December 21st --- subsequently Anton emailed me this message about their medical system: </p>
<p>“<em>the police report was regarding them tricking Holger to the psychiatric ward in the beginning of December.</em></p>
<p><em>IVO is the healthcare inspektion authority. We are working on a new report to them covering a bigger picture with all the things that happened this fall, the psychiatric ward in the beginning of December...and also their threat of forced institutionalization.</em></p>
<p><em>Holger has been denied to seek a doctor of his own choice because he lives in the care home. But our lawyer says that that is not legal. So we are now trying to find a doctor we can trust and do not deny ME. We know who we want and hope she says yes.</em></p>
<p><em>We have not accepted the healthcare director's reply and asked him to invite us to a meeting and also give us an informed answer because he obviously isn't aware of the details. He is now questioned already by IVO because of the region's handling of Covid-19 patients. They have failed.</em>”</p>
<p>To follow and support Holger and see if the Swedish medical system tortures and kills him, go to Help Holger Now on Facebook:</p>
<p>#HelpHolgerNow</p>
<p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/helpholgernow</p>
<p>(MEpedia entry about Sophia Mirza who had ME and died after being forcibly moved to a psychiatric institution: <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Sophia_Mirza'>https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Sophia_Mirza</a> )</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[“We’re living in a horror movie” says Anton, speaking for his brother Holger who is so severely sick that he cannot eat or drink and has to be tube fed. Yet the Swedish medical system thinks Holger has a psychiatric disorder and has threatened to have him forcibly committed to an institution against his wishes. 
If the medical system succeeds, it will probably kill Holger. 
Anton, and the rest of Holger’s family, are fighting a medical system that does not recognize or understand the disease myalgic encephalomyelitis, or ME. Holger’s family have started a public campaign including social media to #HelpHolgerNow to save him from a torturous death at the hands of the medical system.
I interviewed Anton about Holger on December 21st --- subsequently Anton emailed me this message about their medical system: 
“the police report was regarding them tricking Holger to the psychiatric ward in the beginning of December.
IVO is the healthcare inspektion authority. We are working on a new report to them covering a bigger picture with all the things that happened this fall, the psychiatric ward in the beginning of December...and also their threat of forced institutionalization.
Holger has been denied to seek a doctor of his own choice because he lives in the care home. But our lawyer says that that is not legal. So we are now trying to find a doctor we can trust and do not deny ME. We know who we want and hope she says yes.
We have not accepted the healthcare director's reply and asked him to invite us to a meeting and also give us an informed answer because he obviously isn't aware of the details. He is now questioned already by IVO because of the region's handling of Covid-19 patients. They have failed.”
To follow and support Holger and see if the Swedish medical system tortures and kills him, go to Help Holger Now on Facebook:
#HelpHolgerNow
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/helpholgernow
(MEpedia entry about Sophia Mirza who had ME and died after being forcibly moved to a psychiatric institution: https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Sophia_Mirza )
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
 
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
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        <title>Sarah Colero: “Owe my life to medical cannabis” -- life with brain surgeries, migraines and opioids</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Medical knowledge is embryonic. They are still discovering new body parts. Sometimes medicine doesn’t break new ground, but has to be dragged into the light. </p>
<p>A case in point is cannabis. The therapeutic value of cannabis has been known for millennia, yet modern medicine vilified the medication, pathologized cannabis users, while the legal system criminalized cannabis patients.</p>
<p>Now we see the global movement making great headway toward decriminalizing and medicalizing cannabis. And as it is with most changes to the medical system, it did not come from within, but from pressure from outsiders, namely patients.</p>
<p>In this episode of Medical Error Interviews, I chat with Sarah Colero who’s debilitating migraines were made worse by opioids, but better by cannabis. </p>
<p>We unpack Sarah’s experience with multiple brain surgeries and a medical system often intentionally ignorant about the medicinal benefits of cannabis, and her advocacy efforts to bring equity in access for patients that need medicinal cannabis to treat disease and symptoms.</p>
<p>Connect with Sarah Colero:</p>
<p>Twitter:  @Sarah_Colero</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medical knowledge is embryonic. They are still discovering new body parts. Sometimes medicine doesn’t break new ground, but has to be dragged into the light. </p>
<p>A case in point is cannabis. The therapeutic value of cannabis has been known for millennia, yet modern medicine vilified the medication, pathologized cannabis users, while the legal system criminalized cannabis patients.</p>
<p>Now we see the global movement making great headway toward decriminalizing and medicalizing cannabis. And as it is with most changes to the medical system, it did not come from within, but from pressure from outsiders, namely patients.</p>
<p>In this episode of Medical Error Interviews, I chat with Sarah Colero who’s debilitating migraines were made worse by opioids, but better by cannabis. </p>
<p>We unpack Sarah’s experience with multiple brain surgeries and a medical system often intentionally ignorant about the medicinal benefits of cannabis, and her advocacy efforts to bring equity in access for patients that need medicinal cannabis to treat disease and symptoms.</p>
<p>Connect with Sarah Colero:</p>
<p>Twitter:  @Sarah_Colero</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Medical knowledge is embryonic. They are still discovering new body parts. Sometimes medicine doesn’t break new ground, but has to be dragged into the light. 
A case in point is cannabis. The therapeutic value of cannabis has been known for millennia, yet modern medicine vilified the medication, pathologized cannabis users, while the legal system criminalized cannabis patients.
Now we see the global movement making great headway toward decriminalizing and medicalizing cannabis. And as it is with most changes to the medical system, it did not come from within, but from pressure from outsiders, namely patients.
In this episode of Medical Error Interviews, I chat with Sarah Colero who’s debilitating migraines were made worse by opioids, but better by cannabis. 
We unpack Sarah’s experience with multiple brain surgeries and a medical system often intentionally ignorant about the medicinal benefits of cannabis, and her advocacy efforts to bring equity in access for patients that need medicinal cannabis to treat disease and symptoms.
Connect with Sarah Colero:
Twitter:  @Sarah_Colero
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Author and writer Maija Haavisto caught my attention with her article titled ‘<a href='https://maija-haavisto.medium.com/medical-trauma-6fa90c6ecab0'>Medical Trauma: Gaslighting and Continuous Stress Eating Away at Your Self Worth</a>’. In her writing, Maija accurately captures the consequences of harmful medical experiences I witness in my counseling clients.  As I’ve said elsewhere, medical error and trauma are the unacknowledged pandemics within our health care systems.</p>
<p>Maija grew up in Finland, a healthy child until she got the flu as a teenager and never recovered.  Kicked out of an abusive home at 16 as she struggled with sickness, Maija relied on her writing prowess and carved out a successful career as a journalist and medical writer who has authored 17 books in Finnish.</p>
<p>Along the way, Maija’s health has fluctuated, she eventually got a diagnosis of MEcfs, moved to the Netherlands partly for healthcare reasons in 2010, but she has never been totally healthy again. Of course, having undiagnosed and unrecognized symptoms, and then getting a diagnosis of a medically marginalized disease, means Maija had to have numerous encounters with the health care system. Encounters that more often than not, would be stressful and trauma inducing. </p>
<p>But Maija has taken her lived experience with the chronic disease MEcfs, and her more recent experience with Long Covid (aka post Covid syndrome), and her encounters with the health care system, and uses those elements to inform her writing. Maija makes the point that medical trauma is different from post traumatic stress. As Maija writes in her article, </p>
<p>“Another aspect that makes medical trauma particularly pernicious is the way we may be forced to face our abuser and pretend nothing has happened. Even if we manage to cut them off, their pointed comments may stick in our medical files.”</p>
<p>And that’s exactly what distinguishes PTSD from continuous medical trauma.  If you have a complex chronic illness, especially one that is medically marginalized, you probably cannot divorce yourself completely from the health care system to try to protect yourself from further abuse and trauma. You are forced to continue to engage with your traumatizer, both the physician and the health care system -- and that makes medical trauma continuous, and some would say, chronic trauma.</p>
<p>Connect with Maija Haavisto</p>
<p>Twitter: @DiamonDie</p>
<p>Maija’s Medium article:</p>
<p>https://maija-haavisto.medium.com/medical-trauma-6fa90c6ecab0</p>
<p>Website <a href='http://www.fiikus.net/'>http://www.fiikus.net</a> </p>
<p>Maya’s CFS/ME book <a href='http://www.brokenmarionettebook.com/'>http://www.brokenmarionettebook.com</a> </p>
<p>YouTube - hypnosis and meditation audios </p>
<p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/diamondie'>https://www.youtube.com/user/diamondie</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p></p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Author and writer Maija Haavisto caught my attention with her article titled ‘<a href='https://maija-haavisto.medium.com/medical-trauma-6fa90c6ecab0'><em>Medical Trauma: Gaslighting and Continuous Stress Eating Away at Your Self Worth</em></a>’. In her writing, Maija accurately captures the consequences of harmful medical experiences I witness in my counseling clients.  As I’ve said elsewhere, medical error and trauma are the unacknowledged pandemics within our health care systems.</p>
<p>Maija grew up in Finland, a healthy child until she got the flu as a teenager and never recovered.  Kicked out of an abusive home at 16 as she struggled with sickness, Maija relied on her writing prowess and carved out a successful career as a journalist and medical writer who has authored 17 books in Finnish.</p>
<p>Along the way, Maija’s health has fluctuated, she eventually got a diagnosis of MEcfs, moved to the Netherlands partly for healthcare reasons in 2010, but she has never been totally healthy again. Of course, having undiagnosed and unrecognized symptoms, and then getting a diagnosis of a medically marginalized disease, means Maija had to have numerous encounters with the health care system. Encounters that more often than not, would be stressful and trauma inducing. </p>
<p>But Maija has taken her lived experience with the chronic disease MEcfs, and her more recent experience with Long Covid (aka post Covid syndrome), and her encounters with the health care system, and uses those elements to inform her writing. Maija makes the point that medical trauma is different from post traumatic stress. As Maija writes in her article, </p>
<p>“<em>Another aspect that makes medical trauma particularly pernicious is the way we may be forced to face our abuser and pretend nothing has happened. Even if we manage to cut them off, their pointed comments may stick in our medical files.</em>”</p>
<p>And that’s exactly what distinguishes PTSD from continuous medical trauma.  If you have a complex chronic illness, especially one that is medically marginalized, you probably cannot divorce yourself completely from the health care system to try to protect yourself from further abuse and trauma. You are forced to continue to engage with your traumatizer, both the physician and the health care system -- and that makes medical trauma continuous, and some would say, chronic trauma.</p>
<p>Connect with Maija Haavisto</p>
<p>Twitter: @DiamonDie</p>
<p>Maija’s Medium article:</p>
<p>https://maija-haavisto.medium.com/medical-trauma-6fa90c6ecab0</p>
<p>Website <a href='http://www.fiikus.net/'>http://www.fiikus.net</a> </p>
<p>Maya’s CFS/ME book <a href='http://www.brokenmarionettebook.com/'>http://www.brokenmarionettebook.com</a> </p>
<p>YouTube - hypnosis and meditation audios </p>
<p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/diamondie'>https://www.youtube.com/user/diamondie</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p></p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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Maija grew up in Finland, a healthy child until she got the flu as a teenager and never recovered.  Kicked out of an abusive home at 16 as she struggled with sickness, Maija relied on her writing prowess and carved out a successful career as a journalist and medical writer who has authored 17 books in Finnish.
Along the way, Maija’s health has fluctuated, she eventually got a diagnosis of MEcfs, moved to the Netherlands partly for healthcare reasons in 2010, but she has never been totally healthy again. Of course, having undiagnosed and unrecognized symptoms, and then getting a diagnosis of a medically marginalized disease, means Maija had to have numerous encounters with the health care system. Encounters that more often than not, would be stressful and trauma inducing. 
But Maija has taken her lived experience with the chronic disease MEcfs, and her more recent experience with Long Covid (aka post Covid syndrome), and her encounters with the health care system, and uses those elements to inform her writing. Maija makes the point that medical trauma is different from post traumatic stress. As Maija writes in her article, 
“Another aspect that makes medical trauma particularly pernicious is the way we may be forced to face our abuser and pretend nothing has happened. Even if we manage to cut them off, their pointed comments may stick in our medical files.”
And that’s exactly what distinguishes PTSD from continuous medical trauma.  If you have a complex chronic illness, especially one that is medically marginalized, you probably cannot divorce yourself completely from the health care system to try to protect yourself from further abuse and trauma. You are forced to continue to engage with your traumatizer, both the physician and the health care system -- and that makes medical trauma continuous, and some would say, chronic trauma.
Connect with Maija Haavisto
Twitter: @DiamonDie
Maija’s Medium article:
https://maija-haavisto.medium.com/medical-trauma-6fa90c6ecab0
Website http://www.fiikus.net 
Maya’s CFS/ME book http://www.brokenmarionettebook.com 
YouTube - hypnosis and meditation audios 
https://www.youtube.com/user/diamondie
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 

Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com
Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>One of the good things about interviewing people about their medical error experiences is the feel good stories about making the health system safer, and making meaning out of trauma, a phenomenon known as post traumatic growth.</p>
<p>In this interview with Jessica Pin, she shares the insights she’s learned about the gross deficiencies in the medical system where it intentionally maintains blind spots about female anatomy and female sexuality.  A medical system where surgeons are performing procedures on female genitalia with shocking little understanding of the female body.</p>
<p>Jessica, the daughter of a surgeon, recounts her own experience receiving a surgical procedure that she did not consent, and to which the doctor had no understanding or training. This unwarranted surgery would impact Jessica’s intimate relationships, her relationship with her parents, and her relationship with herself.</p>
<p>In her efforts to make meaning out of her medical injury, Jessica sought the support of psychiatrists and therapists -- but she again experienced dismissal, minimization and invalidation. Essentially further harming Jessica as invalidated trauma deepens trauma.</p>
<p>Eventually, through her own efforts and self education about recovering from trauma, Jessica focused her efforts on changing the system to prevent more women from being physically harmed, sexually diminished, and psychologically traumatized.</p>
<p>Connect with Jessica Pin</p>
<p>Twitter @MediClit</p>
<p>https://www.instagram.com/p/CD7VMj2pZ_q/?igshid=163uygx8r1ibq</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the good things about interviewing people about their medical error experiences is the feel good stories about making the health system safer, and making meaning out of trauma, a phenomenon known as post traumatic growth.</p>
<p>In this interview with Jessica Pin, she shares the insights she’s learned about the gross deficiencies in the medical system where it intentionally maintains blind spots about female anatomy and female sexuality.  A medical system where surgeons are performing procedures on female genitalia with shocking little understanding of the female body.</p>
<p>Jessica, the daughter of a surgeon, recounts her own experience receiving a surgical procedure that she did not consent, and to which the doctor had no understanding or training. This unwarranted surgery would impact Jessica’s intimate relationships, her relationship with her parents, and her relationship with herself.</p>
<p>In her efforts to make meaning out of her medical injury, Jessica sought the support of psychiatrists and therapists -- but she again experienced dismissal, minimization and invalidation. Essentially further harming Jessica as invalidated trauma deepens trauma.</p>
<p>Eventually, through her own efforts and self education about recovering from trauma, Jessica focused her efforts on changing the system to prevent more women from being physically harmed, sexually diminished, and psychologically traumatized.</p>
<p>Connect with Jessica Pin</p>
<p>Twitter @MediClit</p>
<p>https://www.instagram.com/p/CD7VMj2pZ_q/?igshid=163uygx8r1ibq</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[One of the good things about interviewing people about their medical error experiences is the feel good stories about making the health system safer, and making meaning out of trauma, a phenomenon known as post traumatic growth.
In this interview with Jessica Pin, she shares the insights she’s learned about the gross deficiencies in the medical system where it intentionally maintains blind spots about female anatomy and female sexuality.  A medical system where surgeons are performing procedures on female genitalia with shocking little understanding of the female body.
Jessica, the daughter of a surgeon, recounts her own experience receiving a surgical procedure that she did not consent, and to which the doctor had no understanding or training. This unwarranted surgery would impact Jessica’s intimate relationships, her relationship with her parents, and her relationship with herself.
In her efforts to make meaning out of her medical injury, Jessica sought the support of psychiatrists and therapists -- but she again experienced dismissal, minimization and invalidation. Essentially further harming Jessica as invalidated trauma deepens trauma.
Eventually, through her own efforts and self education about recovering from trauma, Jessica focused her efforts on changing the system to prevent more women from being physically harmed, sexually diminished, and psychologically traumatized.
Connect with Jessica Pin
Twitter @MediClit
https://www.instagram.com/p/CD7VMj2pZ_q/?igshid=163uygx8r1ibq
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When you’ve been sick since a child - as Jeanne McArdle has been - you gain a preternatural insight into the world of medicine and medical care. And if you have a disease unknown or misunderstood by medicine, you get the advantage of being an ‘outsider’ while inside the system. </p>
<p>Of course, this cuts both ways: having a medically marginalized disease essentially guarantees medical harm, neglect, gaslighting and distrust of doctors.</p>
<p>In this interview with Jeanne McArdle, she recounts the myriad ways physicians have gaslighted her over the years -- at times, this ubiquitous gaslighting from authority figures undermined Jeanne’s own sense of her body and reality.</p>
<p>Even when Jeanne used her Master’s research skills to track and plot the objective biological changes in her body, the evidence was dismissed by doctors.  When Jeanne reported bodily pain, doctors would ignore or minimize it. </p>
<p>It was not until Jeanne got in front of a doctor that specialized in her symptoms that the gaslighting stopped and the appropriate testing and treatment began. But as Jeanne points out, if the doctor can’t figure out the problem, the patient becomes the problem.</p>
<p>Connect with Jeanne McArdle</p>
<p>Twitter: @JeanneMcArdle</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you’ve been sick since a child - as Jeanne McArdle has been - you gain a preternatural insight into the world of medicine and medical care. And if you have a disease unknown or misunderstood by medicine, you get the advantage of being an ‘outsider’ while inside the system. </p>
<p>Of course, this cuts both ways: having a medically marginalized disease essentially guarantees medical harm, neglect, gaslighting and distrust of doctors.</p>
<p>In this interview with Jeanne McArdle, she recounts the myriad ways physicians have gaslighted her over the years -- at times, this ubiquitous gaslighting from authority figures undermined Jeanne’s own sense of her body and reality.</p>
<p>Even when Jeanne used her Master’s research skills to track and plot the objective biological changes in her body, the evidence was dismissed by doctors.  When Jeanne reported bodily pain, doctors would ignore or minimize it. </p>
<p>It was not until Jeanne got in front of a doctor that specialized in her symptoms that the gaslighting stopped and the appropriate testing and treatment began. But as Jeanne points out, if the doctor can’t figure out the problem, the patient becomes the problem.</p>
<p>Connect with Jeanne McArdle</p>
<p>Twitter: @JeanneMcArdle</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When you’ve been sick since a child - as Jeanne McArdle has been - you gain a preternatural insight into the world of medicine and medical care. And if you have a disease unknown or misunderstood by medicine, you get the advantage of being an ‘outsider’ while inside the system. 
Of course, this cuts both ways: having a medically marginalized disease essentially guarantees medical harm, neglect, gaslighting and distrust of doctors.
In this interview with Jeanne McArdle, she recounts the myriad ways physicians have gaslighted her over the years -- at times, this ubiquitous gaslighting from authority figures undermined Jeanne’s own sense of her body and reality.
Even when Jeanne used her Master’s research skills to track and plot the objective biological changes in her body, the evidence was dismissed by doctors.  When Jeanne reported bodily pain, doctors would ignore or minimize it. 
It was not until Jeanne got in front of a doctor that specialized in her symptoms that the gaslighting stopped and the appropriate testing and treatment began. But as Jeanne points out, if the doctor can’t figure out the problem, the patient becomes the problem.
Connect with Jeanne McArdle
Twitter: @JeanneMcArdle
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When yoga teacher Liz fell down a flight of stairs while moving a mattress and injured her foot, she had no idea that multiple misdiagnosis and missed diagnosis would cause her years of medical gaslighting and chronic pain.  Liz’s health care experience is littered with story after story of incredible incompetence, false accusations and patient blaming. </p>
<p>With a few exceptions, most of us are raised to believe that our health care systems are looking out for our best interests, that they are self correcting institutions that prioritize patient safety. In reality, the health care system has morphed into a system that prioritizes and protects the status quo of physicians as god-like entities that can do no wrong. And unless you’ve experienced medical harm, neglect or gaslighting from the health care system it is hard to fathom that a strong element of the ‘helping’ profession is really about helping themselves.</p>
<p>This is evidenced by the alliance of physicians with lawyers to protect doctors when they harm or kill patients. Those high priced lawyers will try to delay court cases to run up the lawyer fees, essentially bankrupting the injured patient. Or the lawyers use stall and delay tactics in hopes the patient dies before the case goes to trial.</p>
<p>To complete the moat around their elite status, physicians worked the political system to have laws and policies implemented that further protect doctors from accountability.</p>
<p>This further entrenches the medical system as unaccountable for their actions. Yet we only have to consider that medical error is the 3rd leading cause of death to recognize that the doctor / lawyer / politician triumvirate is effectively working to protect a high harm and death rate.</p>
<p>Liz shares the failures of the medical system, and the gem of a physician she found that  has helped improve her quality of life --- a quality needlessly diminished by repeated medical errors.</p>
<p>Connect with Liz Perloff:</p>
<p>Twitter <a href='https://twitter.com/thepenof'>@thepenof</a> </p>
<p>Website: <a href='https://fromthepenof.com/'>FromThePenOf.com </a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p> 
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When yoga teacher Liz fell down a flight of stairs while moving a mattress and injured her foot, she had no idea that multiple misdiagnosis and missed diagnosis would cause her years of medical gaslighting and chronic pain.  Liz’s health care experience is littered with story after story of incredible incompetence, false accusations and patient blaming. </p>
<p>With a few exceptions, most of us are raised to believe that our health care systems are looking out for our best interests, that they are self correcting institutions that prioritize patient safety. In reality, the health care system has morphed into a system that prioritizes and protects the status quo of physicians as god-like entities that can do no wrong. And unless you’ve experienced medical harm, neglect or gaslighting from the health care system it is hard to fathom that a strong element of the ‘helping’ profession is really about helping themselves.</p>
<p>This is evidenced by the alliance of physicians with lawyers to protect doctors when they harm or kill patients. Those high priced lawyers will try to delay court cases to run up the lawyer fees, essentially bankrupting the injured patient. Or the lawyers use stall and delay tactics in hopes the patient dies before the case goes to trial.</p>
<p>To complete the moat around their elite status, physicians worked the political system to have laws and policies implemented that further protect doctors from accountability.</p>
<p>This further entrenches the medical system as unaccountable for their actions. Yet we only have to consider that medical error is the 3rd leading cause of death to recognize that the doctor / lawyer / politician triumvirate is effectively working to protect a high harm and death rate.</p>
<p>Liz shares the failures of the medical system, and the gem of a physician she found that  has helped improve her quality of life --- a quality needlessly diminished by repeated medical errors.</p>
<p>Connect with Liz Perloff:</p>
<p>Twitter <a href='https://twitter.com/thepenof'>@thepenof</a> </p>
<p>Website: <a href='https://fromthepenof.com/'>FromThePenOf.com </a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p> <br>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When yoga teacher Liz fell down a flight of stairs while moving a mattress and injured her foot, she had no idea that multiple misdiagnosis and missed diagnosis would cause her years of medical gaslighting and chronic pain.  Liz’s health care experience is littered with story after story of incredible incompetence, false accusations and patient blaming. 
With a few exceptions, most of us are raised to believe that our health care systems are looking out for our best interests, that they are self correcting institutions that prioritize patient safety. In reality, the health care system has morphed into a system that prioritizes and protects the status quo of physicians as god-like entities that can do no wrong. And unless you’ve experienced medical harm, neglect or gaslighting from the health care system it is hard to fathom that a strong element of the ‘helping’ profession is really about helping themselves.
This is evidenced by the alliance of physicians with lawyers to protect doctors when they harm or kill patients. Those high priced lawyers will try to delay court cases to run up the lawyer fees, essentially bankrupting the injured patient. Or the lawyers use stall and delay tactics in hopes the patient dies before the case goes to trial.
To complete the moat around their elite status, physicians worked the political system to have laws and policies implemented that further protect doctors from accountability.
This further entrenches the medical system as unaccountable for their actions. Yet we only have to consider that medical error is the 3rd leading cause of death to recognize that the doctor / lawyer / politician triumvirate is effectively working to protect a high harm and death rate.
Liz shares the failures of the medical system, and the gem of a physician she found that  has helped improve her quality of life --- a quality needlessly diminished by repeated medical errors.
Connect with Liz Perloff:
Twitter @thepenof 
Website: FromThePenOf.com 
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
 
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com
 
Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When Daria Oller got sick with mild Covid symptoms in mid March, she assumed she’d be back to full health in a week or two.</p>
<p>Now over 7 months later, Daria -- a physical therapist, athletic trainer, runner and dancer -- is still beset with physical symptoms, especially a delayed and dysfunctional response to exercise, known as post exertional malaise - the hallmark symptom of another post viral disease called myalgic encephalomyelitis, or MEcfs. </p>
<p>Daria is also dealing with cognitive symptoms that makes reading and retaining material a challenge -- this is known as brain fog and also common in MEcfs patients, </p>
<p>As you’ll hear Daria explain, the physical therapist professionals are mostly uninformed about post exertional malaise -- in reality, exercise is contraindicated for post exertional malaise and people living with MEcfs -- and now this seems to extend to at least some of the Long Covid patients emerging from this pandemic. </p>
<p>This was not surprising - in fact it was predictable - as it is well known in the viral research community that a significant proportion of people just never recover from viral infections and they develop MEcfs. But the medical community, including other health providers like physical therapists, has been mostly ignorant about MEcfs and this has caused a lot of harm to patients on a global scale.</p>
<p>If there is a silver lining in this pandemic, it is that people like Daria in the health professions who - unfortunately - develop Long Covid cum MEcfs will now have the lived experience of MEcfs symptoms and will be able to provide empathic and appropriate care. Not the gaslighting and harm MEcfs patients have endured for decades -- and many Long Covid patients are also experiencing.</p>
<p>Connect with Daria Oller:</p>
<p>Twitter  @OnTapPhysio</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Daria Oller got sick with mild Covid symptoms in mid March, she assumed she’d be back to full health in a week or two.</p>
<p>Now over 7 months later, Daria -- a physical therapist, athletic trainer, runner and dancer -- is still beset with physical symptoms, especially a delayed and dysfunctional response to exercise, known as post exertional malaise - the hallmark symptom of another post viral disease called myalgic encephalomyelitis, or MEcfs. </p>
<p>Daria is also dealing with cognitive symptoms that makes reading and retaining material a challenge -- this is known as brain fog and also common in MEcfs patients, </p>
<p>As you’ll hear Daria explain, the physical therapist professionals are mostly uninformed about post exertional malaise -- in reality, exercise is contraindicated for post exertional malaise and people living with MEcfs -- and now this seems to extend to at least some of the Long Covid patients emerging from this pandemic. </p>
<p>This was not surprising - in fact it was predictable - as it is well known in the viral research community that a significant proportion of people just never recover from viral infections and they develop MEcfs. But the medical community, including other health providers like physical therapists, has been mostly ignorant about MEcfs and this has caused a lot of harm to patients on a global scale.</p>
<p>If there is a silver lining in this pandemic, it is that people like Daria in the health professions who - unfortunately - develop Long Covid cum MEcfs will now have the lived experience of MEcfs symptoms and will be able to provide empathic and appropriate care. Not the gaslighting and harm MEcfs patients have endured for decades -- and many Long Covid patients are also experiencing.</p>
<p>Connect with Daria Oller:</p>
<p>Twitter  @OnTapPhysio</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When Daria Oller got sick with mild Covid symptoms in mid March, she assumed she’d be back to full health in a week or two.
Now over 7 months later, Daria -- a physical therapist, athletic trainer, runner and dancer -- is still beset with physical symptoms, especially a delayed and dysfunctional response to exercise, known as post exertional malaise - the hallmark symptom of another post viral disease called myalgic encephalomyelitis, or MEcfs. 
Daria is also dealing with cognitive symptoms that makes reading and retaining material a challenge -- this is known as brain fog and also common in MEcfs patients, 
As you’ll hear Daria explain, the physical therapist professionals are mostly uninformed about post exertional malaise -- in reality, exercise is contraindicated for post exertional malaise and people living with MEcfs -- and now this seems to extend to at least some of the Long Covid patients emerging from this pandemic. 
This was not surprising - in fact it was predictable - as it is well known in the viral research community that a significant proportion of people just never recover from viral infections and they develop MEcfs. But the medical community, including other health providers like physical therapists, has been mostly ignorant about MEcfs and this has caused a lot of harm to patients on a global scale.
If there is a silver lining in this pandemic, it is that people like Daria in the health professions who - unfortunately - develop Long Covid cum MEcfs will now have the lived experience of MEcfs symptoms and will be able to provide empathic and appropriate care. Not the gaslighting and harm MEcfs patients have endured for decades -- and many Long Covid patients are also experiencing.
Connect with Daria Oller:
Twitter  @OnTapPhysio
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Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com
 
Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Netwo]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Unless you’ve experienced it yourself, it is hard to fathom the cruelty and abuse by some doctors and nurses on sick, vulnerable and dying people. It is hard to reconcile that the ultimate helping professions can have so many people who exhibit truly sadistic and sociopathic behaviour.</p>
<p>To understand how ubiquitous medical abuse and neglect is in our health care systems we only have to look at the recent example in the news of the death of Joyce Echaquan who livestreamed abuse by nurses in the days before she died.</p>
<p>Unfortunately MaryAnne Martin-Smith knows what it feels like to be dying while being medically abused -- perhaps ‘tortured’ is a more accurate description.</p>
<p>MaryAnne went to the hospital for simple back surgery and expected to be out the same day, but without back pain. But what happened to MaryAnne is like something out of a Stephen King novel: a surgeon unwittingly slices open MaryAnne’s arteries causing blood to pour into her abdomen, squishing her organs and causing immense pain -- which nurses and doctors ignore in spite of MaryAnne’s pleading for help.</p>
<p>When the medical staff finally acknowledge MaryAnne is dying, it is one shocking error after another -- the medical staff have to bring MaryAnne back to life 3 times -- not wanting to die alone, MaryAnne begs for the nurse to call her husband -- and the nurse tells MaryAnne to stop being so selfish.</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p></p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you’ve experienced it yourself, it is hard to fathom the cruelty and abuse by some doctors and nurses on sick, vulnerable and dying people. It is hard to reconcile that the ultimate helping professions can have so many people who exhibit truly sadistic and sociopathic behaviour.</p>
<p>To understand how ubiquitous medical abuse and neglect is in our health care systems we only have to look at the recent example in the news of the death of Joyce Echaquan who livestreamed abuse by nurses in the days before she died.</p>
<p>Unfortunately MaryAnne Martin-Smith knows what it feels like to be dying while being medically abused -- perhaps ‘tortured’ is a more accurate description.</p>
<p>MaryAnne went to the hospital for simple back surgery and expected to be out the same day, but without back pain. But what happened to MaryAnne is like something out of a Stephen King novel: a surgeon unwittingly slices open MaryAnne’s arteries causing blood to pour into her abdomen, squishing her organs and causing immense pain -- which nurses and doctors ignore in spite of MaryAnne’s pleading for help.</p>
<p>When the medical staff finally acknowledge MaryAnne is dying, it is one shocking error after another -- the medical staff have to bring MaryAnne back to life 3 times -- not wanting to die alone, MaryAnne begs for the nurse to call her husband -- and the nurse tells MaryAnne to stop being so selfish.</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p></p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Unless you’ve experienced it yourself, it is hard to fathom the cruelty and abuse by some doctors and nurses on sick, vulnerable and dying people. It is hard to reconcile that the ultimate helping professions can have so many people who exhibit truly sadistic and sociopathic behaviour.
To understand how ubiquitous medical abuse and neglect is in our health care systems we only have to look at the recent example in the news of the death of Joyce Echaquan who livestreamed abuse by nurses in the days before she died.
Unfortunately MaryAnne Martin-Smith knows what it feels like to be dying while being medically abused -- perhaps ‘tortured’ is a more accurate description.
MaryAnne went to the hospital for simple back surgery and expected to be out the same day, but without back pain. But what happened to MaryAnne is like something out of a Stephen King novel: a surgeon unwittingly slices open MaryAnne’s arteries causing blood to pour into her abdomen, squishing her organs and causing immense pain -- which nurses and doctors ignore in spite of MaryAnne’s pleading for help.
When the medical staff finally acknowledge MaryAnne is dying, it is one shocking error after another -- the medical staff have to bring MaryAnne back to life 3 times -- not wanting to die alone, MaryAnne begs for the nurse to call her husband -- and the nurse tells MaryAnne to stop being so selfish.
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com
Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.

I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
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        <title>Melinda Maxwell: Craniocervical instability -- decades of suffering before diagnosis</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>What is the connection between a ‘weak bladder’ in childhood and spine surgery in adulthood?</p>
<p>For Melinda Maxwell, a diagnosis of craniocervical instability (or CCI) provided clarity of that connection after decades of doctors dismissing her symptoms or giving a misdiagnosis.</p>
<p>Craniocervical instability, as its name implies, is essentially a mechanical failure where the head joins the spine causing it to be unstable -- and it can cause a wide range of mysterious and disabling symptoms that are hard for doctors - who mostly work in silos - to connect.</p>
<p>For Melinda, the CCI diagnosis and subsequent surgery has given her a second chance at life. As a licensed Physical Therapist, Melinda has had to question everything she was taught in PT school as those practices can cause more harm than good in people with diseases that are medically marginalized and clinically misunderstood. </p>
<p>Melinda shares her health care journey to finally getting a diagnosis and proper treatment, and what she’s doing now to prevent more harm to CCI and ME patients from her Physical Therapist colleagues in the future.</p>
<p>Connect with Melinda Maxwell:</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/3049027761780369/?ref=share'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/3049027761780369/?ref=share</a></p>
<p>Post interview note from Melinda:</p>
<p>“One thing I didn’t mention is that I haven’t had to have a tethered cord release yet. Dr. Patel is watching it. Some CCI patients have to have it released after fusion but so far my symptoms aren’t bad enough.”</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the connection between a ‘weak bladder’ in childhood and spine surgery in adulthood?</p>
<p>For Melinda Maxwell, a diagnosis of craniocervical instability (or CCI) provided clarity of that connection after decades of doctors dismissing her symptoms or giving a misdiagnosis.</p>
<p>Craniocervical instability, as its name implies, is essentially a mechanical failure where the head joins the spine causing it to be unstable -- and it can cause a wide range of mysterious and disabling symptoms that are hard for doctors - who mostly work in silos - to connect.</p>
<p>For Melinda, the CCI diagnosis and subsequent surgery has given her a second chance at life. As a licensed Physical Therapist, Melinda has had to question everything she was taught in PT school as those practices can cause more harm than good in people with diseases that are medically marginalized and clinically misunderstood. </p>
<p>Melinda shares her health care journey to finally getting a diagnosis and proper treatment, and what she’s doing now to prevent more harm to CCI and ME patients from her Physical Therapist colleagues in the future.</p>
<p>Connect with Melinda Maxwell:</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/3049027761780369/?ref=share'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/3049027761780369/?ref=share</a></p>
<p>Post interview note from Melinda:</p>
<p>“<em>One thing I didn’t mention is that I haven’t had to have a tethered cord release yet. Dr. Patel is watching it. Some CCI patients have to have it released after fusion but so far my symptoms aren’t bad enough.</em>”</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
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<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[What is the connection between a ‘weak bladder’ in childhood and spine surgery in adulthood?
For Melinda Maxwell, a diagnosis of craniocervical instability (or CCI) provided clarity of that connection after decades of doctors dismissing her symptoms or giving a misdiagnosis.
Craniocervical instability, as its name implies, is essentially a mechanical failure where the head joins the spine causing it to be unstable -- and it can cause a wide range of mysterious and disabling symptoms that are hard for doctors - who mostly work in silos - to connect.
For Melinda, the CCI diagnosis and subsequent surgery has given her a second chance at life. As a licensed Physical Therapist, Melinda has had to question everything she was taught in PT school as those practices can cause more harm than good in people with diseases that are medically marginalized and clinically misunderstood. 
Melinda shares her health care journey to finally getting a diagnosis and proper treatment, and what she’s doing now to prevent more harm to CCI and ME patients from her Physical Therapist colleagues in the future.
Connect with Melinda Maxwell:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/3049027761780369/?ref=share
Post interview note from Melinda:
“One thing I didn’t mention is that I haven’t had to have a tethered cord release yet. Dr. Patel is watching it. Some CCI patients have to have it released after fusion but so far my symptoms aren’t bad enough.”
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Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
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        <title>Jonah McGarva: Long Covid - Politically invisibilized and medically gaslighted</title>
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                    <comments>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/jonah-mcgarva-long-covid-politically-invisibilized-and-medically-gaslighted/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 04:20:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Jonah McGarva is one of what will be millions of people around the globe with Long Covid. And many pandemic survivors that develop Long Covid are frustrated by their government’s lack of appropriate response.</p>
<p>Most government health leaders barely mention - or even warn the public - about Long Covid. This is known as political invisibilization. And it works by refusing to acknowledge an issue, or in this instance, a disease. It is reminiscent of the early years of the AIDS pandemic when politicians were silent about death by AIDS. This gave rise to the advocacy chant of “Silence = Death”.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The government’s motivation to invisibilize a disease may be based on ignorance or prejudice or to protect and hide their own errors and failings from the public. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Government’s may also be motivated to invisibilize Long Covid to deny disability payments, or to protect corporate insurers from Long Covid claims. Government’s are also notoriously burdened by entrenched bureaucrats with allegiance to their careers and the status quo, not public health. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Compounding the political invisibilization of Long Covid patients are physicians who dismiss physical symptoms as psychological or the catch all diagnosis of anxiety. This is known as medical gaslighting. It is the unacknowledged pandemic within our health care systems. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Mix those systemic factors with some narcissistic and sociopathic personalities in both the political and medical systems and the result is a group of very sick and disabled people being medically and economically marginalized.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The good thing is that lots of physicians are experiencing Long Covid and that means they are also experiencing being gaslighted by their colleagues. This is known as ‘getting a taste of your own medicine’ and is the most valuable medical education any of these doctors will ever experience.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>And as Long Covid patient Jonah McGarva recounts, many doctors need to learn this lesson.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Jonah McGarva</p>
<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/jonah_mcgarva'>@jonah_mcgarva</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Jonah interviews:
<a href='https://www.citynews1130.com/video/2020/10/17/longhaulers-cope-with-covid-19s-long-term-effects/?fbclid=IwAR2O2LgJ9oCRWpoqdjxh6A_-8ghinMJn5EGV5EJxcWo9GYG6nmaLCXwNj2U'>CITY TV NEWS - Oct. 17th</a></p>
<p><a href='https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/vancouver-news/-vancouver-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-symptoms-long-haul-2796255?fbclid=IwAR2NlZQ6bjdrAMmDk9MGWsGGcPLhKlwG5tXrc2OSELTmRGMMzUO3pyzXGTg'>VANCOUVER IS AWESOME - Web Article - Oct. 15th</a>

<a href='https://www.gofundme.com/f/assistance-in-recovery-from-long-covid?pc=fb_co_emailupdate24&rcid=r01-16027068617-afdf05ba633841ac&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=p_email%2B3201-24hr-reminder-v5&fbclid=IwAR0OQRJCVpXxMcaZTMbdYRL3C80GNPT_zGw0lQPP4EjWTASOKKVQ8B2z1GY'>GOFUNDME - Set up on Oct. 12th</a>

<a href='https://ecme.ucalgary.ca/covid-19-cme-resources/covid-corner/?fbclid=IwAR0RvkwrvLnsof2imVStnaQie6KamaBi9XHowTGHvdYgOcvn2h8yONGsULQ'>UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY - Covid Corner - Oct. 7th</a>

<a href='https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/w5/w5-investigates-how-surviving-covid-19-is-just-the-first-step-1.5118743?fbclid=IwAR0OQRJCVpXxMcaZTMbdYRL3C80GNPT_zGw0lQPP4EjWTASOKKVQ8B2z1GY'>W5 - Season Premiere - Sep. 26th</a>

<a href='https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-covid-19-long-haulers-1.5730904?fbclid=IwAR1FE353UpQfHMJmhkP-FSZmuVohQEdu4cYG8cHJmUR-uzf_9CLBeHUDFlk'>CBC Web Article - Sep. 20th</a>

<a href='https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/video?clipId=2010989&fbclid=IwAR3z3ZkEnNtGKQCiNEv3lyQJVUndGDEslIdpHKuZ9CVp9Ub47GOgjVrZnFk'>CTV National News - Aug. 12th</a>

</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonah McGarva is one of what will be millions of people around the globe with Long Covid. And many pandemic survivors that develop Long Covid are frustrated by their government’s lack of appropriate response.</p>
<p>Most government health leaders barely mention - or even warn the public - about Long Covid. This is known as political invisibilization. And it works by refusing to acknowledge an issue, or in this instance, a disease. It is reminiscent of the early years of the AIDS pandemic when politicians were silent about death by AIDS. This gave rise to the advocacy chant of “Silence = Death”.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The government’s motivation to invisibilize a disease may be based on ignorance or prejudice or to protect and hide their own errors and failings from the public. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Government’s may also be motivated to invisibilize Long Covid to deny disability payments, or to protect corporate insurers from Long Covid claims. Government’s are also notoriously burdened by entrenched bureaucrats with allegiance to their careers and the status quo, not public health. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Compounding the political invisibilization of Long Covid patients are physicians who dismiss physical symptoms as psychological or the catch all diagnosis of anxiety. This is known as medical gaslighting. It is the unacknowledged pandemic within our health care systems. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Mix those systemic factors with some narcissistic and sociopathic personalities in both the political and medical systems and the result is a group of very sick and disabled people being medically and economically marginalized.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The good thing is that lots of physicians are experiencing Long Covid and that means they are also experiencing being gaslighted by their colleagues. This is known as ‘getting a taste of your own medicine’ and is the most valuable medical education any of these doctors will ever experience.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>And as Long Covid patient Jonah McGarva recounts, many doctors need to learn this lesson.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Jonah McGarva</p>
<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/jonah_mcgarva'>@jonah_mcgarva</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Jonah interviews:<br>
<a href='https://www.citynews1130.com/video/2020/10/17/longhaulers-cope-with-covid-19s-long-term-effects/?fbclid=IwAR2O2LgJ9oCRWpoqdjxh6A_-8ghinMJn5EGV5EJxcWo9GYG6nmaLCXwNj2U'>CITY TV NEWS - Oct. 17th</a></p>
<p><a href='https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/vancouver-news/-vancouver-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-symptoms-long-haul-2796255?fbclid=IwAR2NlZQ6bjdrAMmDk9MGWsGGcPLhKlwG5tXrc2OSELTmRGMMzUO3pyzXGTg'>VANCOUVER IS AWESOME - Web Article - Oct. 15th</a><br>
<br>
<a href='https://www.gofundme.com/f/assistance-in-recovery-from-long-covid?pc=fb_co_emailupdate24&rcid=r01-16027068617-afdf05ba633841ac&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=p_email%2B3201-24hr-reminder-v5&fbclid=IwAR0OQRJCVpXxMcaZTMbdYRL3C80GNPT_zGw0lQPP4EjWTASOKKVQ8B2z1GY'>GOFUNDME - Set up on Oct. 12th</a><br>
<br>
<a href='https://ecme.ucalgary.ca/covid-19-cme-resources/covid-corner/?fbclid=IwAR0RvkwrvLnsof2imVStnaQie6KamaBi9XHowTGHvdYgOcvn2h8yONGsULQ'>UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY - Covid Corner - Oct. 7th</a><br>
<br>
<a href='https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/w5/w5-investigates-how-surviving-covid-19-is-just-the-first-step-1.5118743?fbclid=IwAR0OQRJCVpXxMcaZTMbdYRL3C80GNPT_zGw0lQPP4EjWTASOKKVQ8B2z1GY'>W5 - Season Premiere - Sep. 26th</a><br>
<br>
<a href='https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-covid-19-long-haulers-1.5730904?fbclid=IwAR1FE353UpQfHMJmhkP-FSZmuVohQEdu4cYG8cHJmUR-uzf_9CLBeHUDFlk'>CBC Web Article - Sep. 20th</a><br>
<br>
<a href='https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/video?clipId=2010989&fbclid=IwAR3z3ZkEnNtGKQCiNEv3lyQJVUndGDEslIdpHKuZ9CVp9Ub47GOgjVrZnFk'>CTV National News - Aug. 12th</a><br>
<br>
</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Jonah McGarva is one of what will be millions of people around the globe with Long Covid. And many pandemic survivors that develop Long Covid are frustrated by their government’s lack of appropriate response.
Most government health leaders barely mention - or even warn the public - about Long Covid. This is known as political invisibilization. And it works by refusing to acknowledge an issue, or in this instance, a disease. It is reminiscent of the early years of the AIDS pandemic when politicians were silent about death by AIDS. This gave rise to the advocacy chant of “Silence = Death”.
 
The government’s motivation to invisibilize a disease may be based on ignorance or prejudice or to protect and hide their own errors and failings from the public. 
 
Government’s may also be motivated to invisibilize Long Covid to deny disability payments, or to protect corporate insurers from Long Covid claims. Government’s are also notoriously burdened by entrenched bureaucrats with allegiance to their careers and the status quo, not public health. 
 
Compounding the political invisibilization of Long Covid patients are physicians who dismiss physical symptoms as psychological or the catch all diagnosis of anxiety. This is known as medical gaslighting. It is the unacknowledged pandemic within our health care systems. 
 
Mix those systemic factors with some narcissistic and sociopathic personalities in both the political and medical systems and the result is a group of very sick and disabled people being medically and economically marginalized.
 
The good thing is that lots of physicians are experiencing Long Covid and that means they are also experiencing being gaslighted by their colleagues. This is known as ‘getting a taste of your own medicine’ and is the most valuable medical education any of these doctors will ever experience.
 
And as Long Covid patient Jonah McGarva recounts, many doctors need to learn this lesson.
 
Connect with Jonah McGarva
Twitter: @jonah_mcgarva
 
Jonah interviews:CITY TV NEWS - Oct. 17th
VANCOUVER IS AWESOME - Web Article - Oct. 15thGOFUNDME - Set up on Oct. 12thUNIVERSITY OF CALGARY - Covid Corner - Oct. 7thW5 - Season Premiere - Sep. 26thCBC Web Article - Sep. 20thCTV National News - Aug. 12th
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Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
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Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryer]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>Tracy Fossum: Chronic pain, chronic gaslighting, chronic bias and a heart attack</title>
        <itunes:title>Tracy Fossum: Chronic pain, chronic gaslighting, chronic bias and a heart attack</itunes:title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When Tracy Fossum had all the symptoms of a heart attack, the emergency room doctors thought Tracy was drug seeking and sent her away. Then her pain specialist physician implored her to go to a different hospital’s emergency room because they were heart attack specialists and would have to run appropriate tests. </p>
<p>But they thought Tracy was drug seeking too and made her wait 6 hours before being seen by a doctor --- and even then and in spite of being in immense pain for hours, the doctors and nurses were shaming and denigrating Tracy -- that is, until her heart stopped beating.</p>
<p>At that point, the doctors and nurses suddenly became empathetic and supportive of Tracy -- not because they cared about her, but because they realized she was having a heart attack and her husband had witnessed the abuse and neglect and was about to witness her death by medical bias.</p>
<p>This is just one of many harmful medical experiences Tracy has endured while being sick since childhood -- and they have formed her advocacy work around chronic pain -- and as more Long Covid patients report chronic pain, the number of patients needing Tracy and her team’s support is about to explode.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Tracy Fossum:</p>
<p>Email: Helpalbertaspain@gmail.com </p>
<p>Website: <a href='http://www.helpalbertaspain.com/'>Www.helpalbertaspain.com</a> </p>
<p>Facebook: <a href='http://www.facebook.com/groups/helpab'>Www.facebook.com/groups/helpab</a> </p>
<p>Twitter: @HELP_AB</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Tracy Fossum had all the symptoms of a heart attack, the emergency room doctors thought Tracy was drug seeking and sent her away. Then her pain specialist physician implored her to go to a different hospital’s emergency room because they were heart attack specialists and would have to run appropriate tests. </p>
<p>But they thought Tracy was drug seeking too and made her wait 6 hours before being seen by a doctor --- and even then and in spite of being in immense pain for hours, the doctors and nurses were shaming and denigrating Tracy -- that is, until her heart stopped beating.</p>
<p>At that point, the doctors and nurses suddenly became empathetic and supportive of Tracy -- not because they cared about her, but because they realized she was having a heart attack and her husband had witnessed the abuse and neglect and was about to witness her death by medical bias.</p>
<p>This is just one of many harmful medical experiences Tracy has endured while being sick since childhood -- and they have formed her advocacy work around chronic pain -- and as more Long Covid patients report chronic pain, the number of patients needing Tracy and her team’s support is about to explode.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Tracy Fossum:</p>
<p>Email: Helpalbertaspain@gmail.com </p>
<p>Website: <a href='http://www.helpalbertaspain.com/'>Www.helpalbertaspain.com</a> </p>
<p>Facebook: <a href='http://www.facebook.com/groups/helpab'>Www.facebook.com/groups/helpab</a> </p>
<p>Twitter: @HELP_AB</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When Tracy Fossum had all the symptoms of a heart attack, the emergency room doctors thought Tracy was drug seeking and sent her away. Then her pain specialist physician implored her to go to a different hospital’s emergency room because they were heart attack specialists and would have to run appropriate tests. 
But they thought Tracy was drug seeking too and made her wait 6 hours before being seen by a doctor --- and even then and in spite of being in immense pain for hours, the doctors and nurses were shaming and denigrating Tracy -- that is, until her heart stopped beating.
At that point, the doctors and nurses suddenly became empathetic and supportive of Tracy -- not because they cared about her, but because they realized she was having a heart attack and her husband had witnessed the abuse and neglect and was about to witness her death by medical bias.
This is just one of many harmful medical experiences Tracy has endured while being sick since childhood -- and they have formed her advocacy work around chronic pain -- and as more Long Covid patients report chronic pain, the number of patients needing Tracy and her team’s support is about to explode.
 
Connect with Tracy Fossum:
Email: Helpalbertaspain@gmail.com 
Website: Www.helpalbertaspain.com 
Facebook: Www.facebook.com/groups/helpab 
Twitter: @HELP_AB
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        <title>Melissa Shiff: Her life intersects with wife murdering surgeon, medical error and human rights</title>
        <itunes:title>Melissa Shiff: Her life intersects with wife murdering surgeon, medical error and human rights</itunes:title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When Melissa Shiff had surgery on a cyst in her back, the surgeon nicked her spinal fluid canal causing it to leak spinal fluid. This medical error would lead to more errors and medical harm for Melissa. </p>
<p>As Melissa wrote to me after the interview: “I get internal tremors, non epileptic seizures, slurred speech, sometimes I lose the ability to move my limbs and need to be carried and of course can barely stand or walk.”</p>
<p>The health system proved useless and essentially abandoned Melissa to suffer without medical care.</p>
<p>As a result of her own research and determination, Melissa eventually got a correct diagnosis, one that could be treated with surgery -- but then she was faced with a health care system ignorant about the disease and the only qualified surgeon in prison for murdering his wife.</p>
<p>But Melissa is not one to give up easily -- listen to find out how Melissa is working hard - and horizontally from her bed - to get the surgery she needs to have any hope of leading a normal vertical life.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Swedish Study: <a href='https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fneur.2020.00828/full'>https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fneur.2020.00828/full</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Melissa Shiff:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/melissashiff'>@MelissaShiff</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/melissa.shiff.5'>https://www.facebook.com/melissa.shiff.5</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Melissa Shiff had surgery on a cyst in her back, the surgeon nicked her spinal fluid canal causing it to leak spinal fluid. This medical error would lead to more errors and medical harm for Melissa. </p>
<p>As Melissa wrote to me after the interview: “<em>I get internal tremors, non epileptic seizures, slurred speech, sometimes I lose the ability to move my limbs and need to be carried and of course can barely stand or walk.</em>”</p>
<p>The health system proved useless and essentially abandoned Melissa to suffer without medical care.</p>
<p>As a result of her own research and determination, Melissa eventually got a correct diagnosis, one that could be treated with surgery -- but then she was faced with a health care system ignorant about the disease and the only qualified surgeon in prison for murdering his wife.</p>
<p>But Melissa is not one to give up easily -- listen to find out how Melissa is working hard - and horizontally from her bed - to get the surgery she needs to have any hope of leading a normal vertical life.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Swedish Study: <a href='https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fneur.2020.00828/full'>https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fneur.2020.00828/full</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Melissa Shiff:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/melissashiff'>@MelissaShiff</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/melissa.shiff.5'>https://www.facebook.com/melissa.shiff.5</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When Melissa Shiff had surgery on a cyst in her back, the surgeon nicked her spinal fluid canal causing it to leak spinal fluid. This medical error would lead to more errors and medical harm for Melissa. 
As Melissa wrote to me after the interview: “I get internal tremors, non epileptic seizures, slurred speech, sometimes I lose the ability to move my limbs and need to be carried and of course can barely stand or walk.”
The health system proved useless and essentially abandoned Melissa to suffer without medical care.
As a result of her own research and determination, Melissa eventually got a correct diagnosis, one that could be treated with surgery -- but then she was faced with a health care system ignorant about the disease and the only qualified surgeon in prison for murdering his wife.
But Melissa is not one to give up easily -- listen to find out how Melissa is working hard - and horizontally from her bed - to get the surgery she needs to have any hope of leading a normal vertical life.
 
Swedish Study: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fneur.2020.00828/full
 
Connect with Melissa Shiff:
 
Twitter: @MelissaShiff
 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melissa.shiff.5
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com
 
Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr Terri Lewis is a clinical educator with more than 30 years of experience in the development and administration of community rehabilitation and counseling programs.</p>
<p>Terri’s insights into the machinations of the medical system come from both her professional career and her role as a mother.</p>
<p>When Terri’s child experienced pain, it was by and large dismissed by doctors as if children were from a different planet where the species didn’t experience pain.  By ignoring what Terri’s son was reporting, doctors contributed to a worse and more painful - and needless - outcome for him.</p>
<p>In our interview, Terri shares both the formal and personal aspects of her experiences with the health care system --- a medical system that is not focused on the patient as they purport, but focused on cutting patient-doctor appointment time and decreasing other costs while maximizing profits. A system Terri aptly describes as ‘drive-by medicine’.</p>
<p>Connect with Dr Terri Lewis:</p>
<p>Tennessee Pain Care for All</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/219464761765372'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/219464761765372</a></p>
<p>Fungal Meningitis Survivors</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/meningitisoutbreaksurvivors'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/meningitisoutbreaksurvivors</a></p>
<p>Twitter</p>
<p><a href='https://twitter.com/tal7291'>https://twitter.com/tal7291</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Terri Lewis is a clinical educator with more than 30 years of experience in the development and administration of community rehabilitation and counseling programs.</p>
<p>Terri’s insights into the machinations of the medical system come from both her professional career and her role as a mother.</p>
<p>When Terri’s child experienced pain, it was by and large dismissed by doctors as if children were from a different planet where the species didn’t experience pain.  By ignoring what Terri’s son was reporting, doctors contributed to a worse and more painful - and needless - outcome for him.</p>
<p>In our interview, Terri shares both the formal and personal aspects of her experiences with the health care system --- a medical system that is not focused on the patient as they purport, but focused on cutting patient-doctor appointment time and decreasing other costs while maximizing profits. A system Terri aptly describes as ‘drive-by medicine’.</p>
<p>Connect with Dr Terri Lewis:</p>
<p>Tennessee Pain Care for All</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/219464761765372'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/219464761765372</a></p>
<p>Fungal Meningitis Survivors</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/meningitisoutbreaksurvivors'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/meningitisoutbreaksurvivors</a></p>
<p>Twitter</p>
<p><a href='https://twitter.com/tal7291'>https://twitter.com/tal7291</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr Terri Lewis is a clinical educator with more than 30 years of experience in the development and administration of community rehabilitation and counseling programs.
Terri’s insights into the machinations of the medical system come from both her professional career and her role as a mother.
When Terri’s child experienced pain, it was by and large dismissed by doctors as if children were from a different planet where the species didn’t experience pain.  By ignoring what Terri’s son was reporting, doctors contributed to a worse and more painful - and needless - outcome for him.
In our interview, Terri shares both the formal and personal aspects of her experiences with the health care system --- a medical system that is not focused on the patient as they purport, but focused on cutting patient-doctor appointment time and decreasing other costs while maximizing profits. A system Terri aptly describes as ‘drive-by medicine’.
Connect with Dr Terri Lewis:
Tennessee Pain Care for All
https://www.facebook.com/groups/219464761765372
Fungal Meningitis Survivors
https://www.facebook.com/groups/meningitisoutbreaksurvivors
Twitter
https://twitter.com/tal7291
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
Medical Error Interviews podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.
My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.
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        <title>Miranda Levy: Psychiatric Safari - A journalist’s experience with psychiatry and their medications</title>
        <itunes:title>Miranda Levy: Psychiatric Safari - A journalist’s experience with psychiatry and their medications</itunes:title>
        <link>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/miranda-levy-psychiatric-safari-a-journalist-s-experience-with-psychiatry-and-their-medications/</link>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When journalist Miranda Levy couldn’t sleep due to a relationship upheaval, she sought support from her doctor and fell down a multi year rabbit hole into the wacky world of psychiatric medicine.</p>
<p>Miranda lost herself in a health care system that has little understanding of the powerful psychiatric drugs they dispense like candy. The health care system also has little motivation to acknowledge the torturous effects that can come from withdrawal from these drugs.</p>
<p>Miranda doesn’t mince her words about her experiences with the medical system and the physical addiction it created - where it failed and where it helped - and where it abandoned her when she was at her most sick and desperate and in need of help.</p>
<p>Miranda tells how a treatment centre publicly humiliated her as part of their therapy. And how she felt compelled to lie at the treatment centre’s 12 step program and say “My name is Miranda, and I’m an alcoholic” - even though alcohol was not the issue, it was prescription medications that she was addicted to.</p>
<p>Fortunately, Miranda took control of her health and destiny and started to slowly wean herself off the medications - an ongoing process that is taking years - but she’s got her sharp mind back, she’s back to work as a journalist, and she’s writing a book about her safari into insomnia, mental illness, and the psychiatric world’s version of ‘big game hunters’: Big Profit Pharma</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Miranda Levy</p>
<p>Blog - Tales of an Insomniac.com  <a href='https://t.co/wxRppQWFHJ?amp=1'>https://t.co/wxRppQWFHJ?amp=1</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>MirandaLevy.co.uk</p>
<p>Twitter @MirandaLevyCopy</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When journalist Miranda Levy couldn’t sleep due to a relationship upheaval, she sought support from her doctor and fell down a multi year rabbit hole into the wacky world of psychiatric medicine.</p>
<p>Miranda lost herself in a health care system that has little understanding of the powerful psychiatric drugs they dispense like candy. The health care system also has little motivation to acknowledge the torturous effects that can come from withdrawal from these drugs.</p>
<p>Miranda doesn’t mince her words about her experiences with the medical system and the physical addiction it created - where it failed and where it helped - and where it abandoned her when she was at her most sick and desperate and in need of help.</p>
<p>Miranda tells how a treatment centre publicly humiliated her as part of their therapy. And how she felt compelled to lie at the treatment centre’s 12 step program and say “My name is Miranda, and I’m an alcoholic” - even though alcohol was not the issue, it was prescription medications that she was addicted to.</p>
<p>Fortunately, Miranda took control of her health and destiny and started to slowly wean herself off the medications - an ongoing process that is taking years - but she’s got her sharp mind back, she’s back to work as a journalist, and she’s writing a book about her safari into insomnia, mental illness, and the psychiatric world’s version of ‘big game hunters’: Big Profit Pharma</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Miranda Levy</p>
<p>Blog - Tales of an Insomniac.com  <a href='https://t.co/wxRppQWFHJ?amp=1'>https://t.co/wxRppQWFHJ?amp=1</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>MirandaLevy.co.uk</p>
<p>Twitter @MirandaLevyCopy</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When journalist Miranda Levy couldn’t sleep due to a relationship upheaval, she sought support from her doctor and fell down a multi year rabbit hole into the wacky world of psychiatric medicine.
Miranda lost herself in a health care system that has little understanding of the powerful psychiatric drugs they dispense like candy. The health care system also has little motivation to acknowledge the torturous effects that can come from withdrawal from these drugs.
Miranda doesn’t mince her words about her experiences with the medical system and the physical addiction it created - where it failed and where it helped - and where it abandoned her when she was at her most sick and desperate and in need of help.
Miranda tells how a treatment centre publicly humiliated her as part of their therapy. And how she felt compelled to lie at the treatment centre’s 12 step program and say “My name is Miranda, and I’m an alcoholic” - even though alcohol was not the issue, it was prescription medications that she was addicted to.
Fortunately, Miranda took control of her health and destiny and started to slowly wean herself off the medications - an ongoing process that is taking years - but she’s got her sharp mind back, she’s back to work as a journalist, and she’s writing a book about her safari into insomnia, mental illness, and the psychiatric world’s version of ‘big game hunters’: Big Profit Pharma
 
Connect with Miranda Levy
Blog - Tales of an Insomniac.com  https://t.co/wxRppQWFHJ?amp=1
 
MirandaLevy.co.uk
Twitter @MirandaLevyCopy
 
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
 
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
 
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
 
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member of Patients for Patient Safety Canada.
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        <title>Beau Tiffany: The Medical Care Racket - 2 damaging surgeries for illnesses he didn’t have</title>
        <itunes:title>Beau Tiffany: The Medical Care Racket - 2 damaging surgeries for illnesses he didn’t have</itunes:title>
        <link>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/beau-tiffany-the-medical-care-racket-2-damaging-surgeries-for-illnesses-he-didn-t-have/</link>
                    <comments>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/beau-tiffany-the-medical-care-racket-2-damaging-surgeries-for-illnesses-he-didn-t-have/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:20:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>If you had any doubt the medical system, in collusion with the legal, political and insurance systems, were corrupt, those doubts will be waylaid when you hear Beau Tiffany’s experiences with medical error.</p>
<p>Beau has had to endure and battle biased systems since he slipped and fell hard down wet stair steps, causing him multiple injuries. But it was a wrong diagnosis that somehow got into Beau’s electronic health records that led to 2 surgeries for illnesses he did not have.</p>
<p>These needless surgeries have permanently injured Beau’s body and greatly impacted his quality of life -- physically, emotionally and socially. But as you’ll hear, Beau is also making meaning out of his traumatic experiences with medical, political and legal systems that at times collude to deny appropriate health care and deny even a semblance of  justice to medically harmed patients.</p>
<p>Part of Beau’s meaning making is being the creator and host of the Digital Voices podcast, a space for people to share their experiences of - and responses to - medical error.</p>
<p>In my interview with Beau, he shares how his experiences with our societal systems began when he was put into the foster child system as a toddler, a system that would abruptly abandon him and leave him homeless as a teenager. </p>
<p>But Beau was a voracious reader and had goals of seeing the places and things he had read about, and that motivation took him from living under a bridge to college and world travel and entrepreneurship. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Beau Tiffany: </p>
<p>Digital Voices podcast on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Digital-Voices-with-Beau-Tiffany-101452114876004</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you had any doubt the medical system, in collusion with the legal, political and insurance systems, were corrupt, those doubts will be waylaid when you hear Beau Tiffany’s experiences with medical error.</p>
<p>Beau has had to endure and battle biased systems since he slipped and fell hard down wet stair steps, causing him multiple injuries. But it was a wrong diagnosis that somehow got into Beau’s electronic health records that led to 2 surgeries for illnesses he did not have.</p>
<p>These needless surgeries have permanently injured Beau’s body and greatly impacted his quality of life -- physically, emotionally and socially. But as you’ll hear, Beau is also making meaning out of his traumatic experiences with medical, political and legal systems that at times collude to deny appropriate health care and deny even a semblance of  justice to medically harmed patients.</p>
<p>Part of Beau’s meaning making is being the creator and host of the Digital Voices podcast, a space for people to share their experiences of - and responses to - medical error.</p>
<p>In my interview with Beau, he shares how his experiences with our societal systems began when he was put into the foster child system as a toddler, a system that would abruptly abandon him and leave him homeless as a teenager. </p>
<p>But Beau was a voracious reader and had goals of seeing the places and things he had read about, and that motivation took him from living under a bridge to college and world travel and entrepreneurship. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Beau Tiffany: </p>
<p>Digital Voices podcast on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Digital-Voices-with-Beau-Tiffany-101452114876004</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[If you had any doubt the medical system, in collusion with the legal, political and insurance systems, were corrupt, those doubts will be waylaid when you hear Beau Tiffany’s experiences with medical error.
Beau has had to endure and battle biased systems since he slipped and fell hard down wet stair steps, causing him multiple injuries. But it was a wrong diagnosis that somehow got into Beau’s electronic health records that led to 2 surgeries for illnesses he did not have.
These needless surgeries have permanently injured Beau’s body and greatly impacted his quality of life -- physically, emotionally and socially. But as you’ll hear, Beau is also making meaning out of his traumatic experiences with medical, political and legal systems that at times collude to deny appropriate health care and deny even a semblance of  justice to medically harmed patients.
Part of Beau’s meaning making is being the creator and host of the Digital Voices podcast, a space for people to share their experiences of - and responses to - medical error.
In my interview with Beau, he shares how his experiences with our societal systems began when he was put into the foster child system as a toddler, a system that would abruptly abandon him and leave him homeless as a teenager. 
But Beau was a voracious reader and had goals of seeing the places and things he had read about, and that motivation took him from living under a bridge to college and world travel and entrepreneurship. 
 
Connect with Beau Tiffany: 
Digital Voices podcast on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Digital-Voices-with-Beau-Tiffany-101452114876004
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        <title>Jenna Payne: Stupid Stuff Doctors Say: "You’re depressed because your unmarried and childless"</title>
        <itunes:title>Jenna Payne: Stupid Stuff Doctors Say: "You’re depressed because your unmarried and childless"</itunes:title>
        <link>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/jenna-payne-stupid-stuff-doctors-say-you-re-depressed-because-your-unmarried-and-childless/</link>
                    <comments>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/jenna-payne-stupid-stuff-doctors-say-you-re-depressed-because-your-unmarried-and-childless/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2020 04:20:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much everyone who’s had a chronic or complex illness will have a story to tell about some of the most ignorant and arrogant - and dangerous - utterations made by physicians.</p>
<p>I’ve spoken with a lot of health care workers and patients from a wide variety of health care systems, and regardless of their geographic location, the god complex physician culture is rampant in their institutions and is a significant cause of medical error, harm and death.</p>
<p>When Jenna Payne’s health took a nose dive, she encountered countless doctors that dismissed or denigrated or shamed her physical symptoms. Turns out Jenna wasn’t faking her symptoms, and she didn’t need a husband and baby. What Jenna needed was a competent physician.</p>
<p>In our interview, Jenna takes us on a journey from the United States to Russia, and from health care to health harm.</p>
<p>Connect with Jenna Payne:</p>
<p><a href='http://jennapayne.com/'>www.jennapayne.com</a></p>
<p><a href='https://twitter.com/jenna_payne'>https://twitter.com/jenna_payne</a></p>
<p><a href='https://kypsel.com/comics/zompire-vixens-from-pluto-episode-one'>https://kypsel.com/comics/zompire-vixens-from-pluto-episode-one</a></p>
<p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/dirjennapayne'>https://www.youtube.com/user/dirjennapayne</a></p>
<p><a href='http://disastercapitalproductions.com/'>www.disastercapitalproductions.com</a></p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much everyone who’s had a chronic or complex illness will have a story to tell about some of the most ignorant and arrogant - and dangerous - utterations made by physicians.</p>
<p>I’ve spoken with a lot of health care workers and patients from a wide variety of health care systems, and regardless of their geographic location, the god complex physician culture is rampant in their institutions and is a significant cause of medical error, harm and death.</p>
<p>When Jenna Payne’s health took a nose dive, she encountered countless doctors that dismissed or denigrated or shamed her physical symptoms. Turns out Jenna wasn’t faking her symptoms, and she didn’t need a husband and baby. What Jenna needed was a competent physician.</p>
<p>In our interview, Jenna takes us on a journey from the United States to Russia, and from health care to health harm.</p>
<p>Connect with Jenna Payne:</p>
<p><a href='http://jennapayne.com/'>www.jennapayne.com</a></p>
<p><a href='https://twitter.com/jenna_payne'>https://twitter.com/jenna_payne</a></p>
<p><a href='https://kypsel.com/comics/zompire-vixens-from-pluto-episode-one'>https://kypsel.com/comics/zompire-vixens-from-pluto-episode-one</a></p>
<p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/dirjennapayne'>https://www.youtube.com/user/dirjennapayne</a></p>
<p><a href='http://disastercapitalproductions.com/'>www.disastercapitalproductions.com</a></p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Pretty much everyone who’s had a chronic or complex illness will have a story to tell about some of the most ignorant and arrogant - and dangerous - utterations made by physicians.
I’ve spoken with a lot of health care workers and patients from a wide variety of health care systems, and regardless of their geographic location, the god complex physician culture is rampant in their institutions and is a significant cause of medical error, harm and death.
When Jenna Payne’s health took a nose dive, she encountered countless doctors that dismissed or denigrated or shamed her physical symptoms. Turns out Jenna wasn’t faking her symptoms, and she didn’t need a husband and baby. What Jenna needed was a competent physician.
In our interview, Jenna takes us on a journey from the United States to Russia, and from health care to health harm.
Connect with Jenna Payne:
www.jennapayne.com
https://twitter.com/jenna_payne
https://kypsel.com/comics/zompire-vixens-from-pluto-episode-one
https://www.youtube.com/user/dirjennapayne
www.disastercapitalproductions.com
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        <title>Casey Steidle: How is this happening? MRI Gadolinium toxicity - life consuming, life ruining</title>
        <itunes:title>Casey Steidle: How is this happening? MRI Gadolinium toxicity - life consuming, life ruining</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/casey-steidle-how-is-this-happening-mri-gadolinium-toxicity-life-consuming-life-ruining/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2020 04:20:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Have you had an MRI? Was it an MRI ‘with contrast’? </p>
<p>That’s when the MRI technician injects you with a chemical called gadolinium so they can read the MRI easier. They probably told you to drink a lot of water to flush it out of your system, and that it would be gone from your body in 24 hours.</p>
<p>What they probably didn’t tell you is that some people’s bodies don’t flush out the gadolinium and it makes them chronically sick and disabled. </p>
<p>And they probably didn’t tell you that the Food and Drug Administration requires that an MRI with gadolinium comes with a black box warning.</p>
<p>Or that Europe and Japan have banned the use of gadolinium.</p>
<p>And they probably didn’t tell you that even if you do report side effects, you’ll be gaslighted by doctors who will tell you it’s impossible to have gadolinium toxicity and that you’re imagining your symptoms. </p>
<p>In this episode of Medical Error Interviews, I chat with Casey Steidle, a creative and athletic woman living in California. Casey tells us about her body’s immediate reaction to the gadolinium injection, the response of the health care workers and her doctor, and then the tragedy of her doctor sending Casey for another MRI with contrast and how that severely damaged her body.</p>
<p>Casey also shares how she had to take control of her own health destiny when the medical system turned its back on her, and about the treatments she pursued that have helped her regain a lot, but not all, of her health and quality of life.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Mri toxicity illnesses - FB -- <a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/Gadolinium'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/Gadolinium</a></p>
<p>The Lighthouse Project:  <a href='https://gadoliniumtoxicity.com/'>https://gadoliniumtoxicity.com/</a></p>
<p>Casey’s website <a href='http://www.caseysteidle.com/'>www.caseysteidle.com</a> </p>
<p>Instagram @caseysteidle</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you had an MRI? Was it an MRI ‘with contrast’? </p>
<p>That’s when the MRI technician injects you with a chemical called gadolinium so they can read the MRI easier. They probably told you to drink a lot of water to flush it out of your system, and that it would be gone from your body in 24 hours.</p>
<p>What they probably didn’t tell you is that some people’s bodies don’t flush out the gadolinium and it makes them chronically sick and disabled. </p>
<p>And they probably didn’t tell you that the Food and Drug Administration requires that an MRI with gadolinium comes with a black box warning.</p>
<p>Or that Europe and Japan have banned the use of gadolinium.</p>
<p>And they probably didn’t tell you that even if you do report side effects, you’ll be gaslighted by doctors who will tell you it’s impossible to have gadolinium toxicity and that you’re imagining your symptoms. </p>
<p>In this episode of Medical Error Interviews, I chat with Casey Steidle, a creative and athletic woman living in California. Casey tells us about her body’s immediate reaction to the gadolinium injection, the response of the health care workers and her doctor, and then the tragedy of her doctor sending Casey for another MRI with contrast and how that severely damaged her body.</p>
<p>Casey also shares how she had to take control of her own health destiny when the medical system turned its back on her, and about the treatments she pursued that have helped her regain a lot, but not all, of her health and quality of life.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Mri toxicity illnesses - FB -- <a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/Gadolinium'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/Gadolinium</a></p>
<p>The Lighthouse Project:  <a href='https://gadoliniumtoxicity.com/'>https://gadoliniumtoxicity.com/</a></p>
<p>Casey’s website <a href='http://www.caseysteidle.com/'>www.caseysteidle.com</a> </p>
<p>Instagram @caseysteidle</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Have you had an MRI? Was it an MRI ‘with contrast’? 
That’s when the MRI technician injects you with a chemical called gadolinium so they can read the MRI easier. They probably told you to drink a lot of water to flush it out of your system, and that it would be gone from your body in 24 hours.
What they probably didn’t tell you is that some people’s bodies don’t flush out the gadolinium and it makes them chronically sick and disabled. 
And they probably didn’t tell you that the Food and Drug Administration requires that an MRI with gadolinium comes with a black box warning.
Or that Europe and Japan have banned the use of gadolinium.
And they probably didn’t tell you that even if you do report side effects, you’ll be gaslighted by doctors who will tell you it’s impossible to have gadolinium toxicity and that you’re imagining your symptoms. 
In this episode of Medical Error Interviews, I chat with Casey Steidle, a creative and athletic woman living in California. Casey tells us about her body’s immediate reaction to the gadolinium injection, the response of the health care workers and her doctor, and then the tragedy of her doctor sending Casey for another MRI with contrast and how that severely damaged her body.
Casey also shares how she had to take control of her own health destiny when the medical system turned its back on her, and about the treatments she pursued that have helped her regain a lot, but not all, of her health and quality of life.
 
Mri toxicity illnesses - FB -- https://www.facebook.com/groups/Gadolinium
The Lighthouse Project:  https://gadoliniumtoxicity.com/
Casey’s website www.caseysteidle.com 
Instagram @caseysteidle
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
 
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council, and member ]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>Donald Lepp: Heart Broken - A family’s journey through medical help, harm and mayhem</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When Donald’s pregnant wife was diagnosed with a serious heart condition, and then a few months later their newborn son was also diagnosed with a similar, but different, life threatening heart condition, the Lepp family started 2 similar, but different, simultaneous journey’s in the health care system: one designed for children and the other for adults --- and along the way they encountered many forms of medical error.</p>
<p>Ih his book ‘Heart Broken’, Donald recounts the emotional rollercoaster his family endured as their life and death care intersected with a bureaucratic medical system stuck in status quo. Too often we hear of families doubly devastated when the hospital denies and or delays a resolution and reconciliation. For the Lepp family, developing clear communication - and trust - with the health care team was crucial for positive outcomes.</p>
<p>In our interview Donald shares his insight about their experiences afforded through hindsight. As Donald notes, medical errors are common place, a reality that cannot be denied --- and what is most salient is how the health care system responds to those errors. Depending on that response, a bad situation may become tragic -- or may become an opportunity of learning and meaning. </p>
<p>We all know what injured patients prefer.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Donald Lepp:</p>
<p>Buy <a href='https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/heart-broken-our-familys-story/9781486619689-item.html'>Heart Broken</a> online</p>
<p>Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/donald.lepp'>https://www.facebook.com/donald.lepp</a></p>
<p>Linkedin: <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-lepp-cphr-shrm-scp-0717589a/'>https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-lepp-cphr-shrm-scp-0717589a/</a></p>
<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/DonaldLepp'>@DonaldLepp</a></p>
<p>Personal blog:  <a href='https://t.co/8j7uX0Dh8x?amp=1'>https://t.co/8j7uX0Dh8x?amp=1</a></p>
<p>Book blog: <a href='https://t.co/PjJFPpwvJD?amp=1'>https://t.co/PjJFPpwvJD?amp=1</a></p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Donald’s pregnant wife was diagnosed with a serious heart condition, and then a few months later their newborn son was also diagnosed with a similar, but different, life threatening heart condition, the Lepp family started 2 similar, but different, simultaneous journey’s in the health care system: one designed for children and the other for adults --- and along the way they encountered many forms of medical error.</p>
<p>Ih his book ‘Heart Broken’, Donald recounts the emotional rollercoaster his family endured as their life and death care intersected with a bureaucratic medical system stuck in status quo. Too often we hear of families doubly devastated when the hospital denies and or delays a resolution and reconciliation. For the Lepp family, developing clear communication - and trust - with the health care team was crucial for positive outcomes.</p>
<p>In our interview Donald shares his insight about their experiences afforded through hindsight. As Donald notes, medical errors are common place, a reality that cannot be denied --- and what is most salient is how the health care system responds to those errors. Depending on that response, a bad situation may become tragic -- or may become an opportunity of learning and meaning. </p>
<p>We all know what injured patients prefer.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Donald Lepp:</p>
<p>Buy <a href='https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/heart-broken-our-familys-story/9781486619689-item.html'>Heart Broken</a> online</p>
<p>Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/donald.lepp'>https://www.facebook.com/donald.lepp</a></p>
<p>Linkedin: <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-lepp-cphr-shrm-scp-0717589a/'>https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-lepp-cphr-shrm-scp-0717589a/</a></p>
<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/DonaldLepp'>@DonaldLepp</a></p>
<p>Personal blog:  <a href='https://t.co/8j7uX0Dh8x?amp=1'>https://t.co/8j7uX0Dh8x?amp=1</a></p>
<p>Book blog: <a href='https://t.co/PjJFPpwvJD?amp=1'>https://t.co/PjJFPpwvJD?amp=1</a></p>
<p> </p>
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Ih his book ‘Heart Broken’, Donald recounts the emotional rollercoaster his family endured as their life and death care intersected with a bureaucratic medical system stuck in status quo. Too often we hear of families doubly devastated when the hospital denies and or delays a resolution and reconciliation. For the Lepp family, developing clear communication - and trust - with the health care team was crucial for positive outcomes.
In our interview Donald shares his insight about their experiences afforded through hindsight. As Donald notes, medical errors are common place, a reality that cannot be denied --- and what is most salient is how the health care system responds to those errors. Depending on that response, a bad situation may become tragic -- or may become an opportunity of learning and meaning. 
We all know what injured patients prefer.
 
Connect with Donald Lepp:
Buy Heart Broken online
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/donald.lepp
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-lepp-cphr-shrm-scp-0717589a/
Twitter: @DonaldLepp
Personal blog:  https://t.co/8j7uX0Dh8x?amp=1
Book blog: https://t.co/PjJFPpwvJD?amp=1
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        <title>Dr Susan Cunliffe: Escaping Psychiatry and ECT - A Physician’s Experience</title>
        <itunes:title>Dr Susan Cunliffe: Escaping Psychiatry and ECT - A Physician’s Experience</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/dr-susan-cunliffe-escaping-psychiatry-and-ect-a-physician-s-experience/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:20:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>In spite of our great science and medical advances in the last 100 years, what we know about how the body works is still embryonic. Especially when it comes to our body’s most complex organ - the brain - as Dr Susan Cunliffe can attest. </p>
<p>Dr Cunliffe received numerous rounds of ECT - aka shock therapy -  each more powerful than the last, each designed to ensure Susan’s brain was assaulted so hard it had a seizure. </p>
<p>The brain tries to protect itself from the convulsions and seizures caused by electricity - so it takes higher doses of electricity to induce the brain seizures. When Susan’s cognitive ability decreased after ECT, her symptoms were interpreted as worsening depression - not ECT induced brain damage - and she was given more ECT, causing more brain damage.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Psychiatry calls this a treatment. Others call it barbaric. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>But these are the facts:</p>
<p>Doctors don’t understand very much about the brain - for example, pharmaceutical manufacturers market antidepressant drugs on the idea that depression is a ‘chemical imbalance in your brain’ -- turns out, that’s not true, there is no evidence for a chemical imbalance as a cause of depression -- but that doesn’t stop 1,000s of unwitting doctors from prescribing them.</p>
<p>Doctors definitely don’t understand how electricity impacts the brain. Physicians don’t know how to treat the brain on any level beyond throwing powerful psych meds at it --  and they haven’t studied traumatic brain injury so they don’t know what symptoms to look for or how to recognize signs of injury -- yet they are allowed to put electricity through people’s brains.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Psychiatry, that embarrassing discipline of medicine that operates outside the usual rules of evidence based science or prioritizing patient safety, religiously defend their practice of jolting the brain with electricity so hard that it causes the brain to have a seizure. Like religion, it is based on faith, not facts.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In this episode, physician Susan Cunliffe gives an insider’s view of the UK medical system where their own data shows 1 in 5 ECT patients experiences severe and permanent brain damage. But that doesn’t stop powerful psychiatrists from continuing to electrocute people’s brains and call it ‘medical care’.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Listen to find out who Susan found to help her brain to heal, and what she’s doing to heal a broken medical system.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Dr Susan Cunliffe:</p>
<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/CunliffeSue'>@CunliffeSue</a></p>
<p>Resources:</p>
<p>Headway (UK) <a href='https://www.headway.org.uk/about-brain-injury/'>https://www.headway.org.uk/about-brain-injury/</a></p>
<p>Head Injury - book - Trevor Powell <a href='https://www.amazon.co.uk/Head-Injury-Practical-Speechmark-Editions/dp/0863884512'>https://www.amazon.co.uk/Head-Injury-Practical-Speechmark-Editions/dp/0863884512</a></p>
<p>Facebook: </p>
<p>Drop the Disorder: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/1182483948461309'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/1182483948461309</a></p>
<p>International support group ECT survivors: </p>
<p><a href='https://m.facebook.com/groups/414257808688052?view=info&refid=18'> https://m.facebook.com/groups/414257808688052?view=info&refid=18</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In spite of our great science and medical advances in the last 100 years, what we know about how the body works is still embryonic. Especially when it comes to our body’s most complex organ - the brain - as Dr Susan Cunliffe can attest. </p>
<p>Dr Cunliffe received numerous rounds of ECT - aka shock therapy -  each more powerful than the last, each designed to ensure Susan’s brain was assaulted so hard it had a seizure. </p>
<p>The brain tries to protect itself from the convulsions and seizures caused by electricity - so it takes higher doses of electricity to induce the brain seizures. When Susan’s cognitive ability decreased after ECT, her symptoms were interpreted as worsening depression - not ECT induced brain damage - and she was given more ECT, causing more brain damage.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Psychiatry calls this a treatment. Others call it barbaric. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>But these are the facts:</p>
<p>Doctors don’t understand very much about the brain - for example, pharmaceutical manufacturers market antidepressant drugs on the idea that depression is a ‘chemical imbalance in your brain’ -- turns out, that’s not true, there is no evidence for a chemical imbalance as a cause of depression -- but that doesn’t stop 1,000s of unwitting doctors from prescribing them.</p>
<p>Doctors definitely don’t understand how electricity impacts the brain. Physicians don’t know how to treat the brain on any level beyond throwing powerful psych meds at it --  and they haven’t studied traumatic brain injury so they don’t know what symptoms to look for or how to recognize signs of injury -- yet they are allowed to put electricity through people’s brains.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Psychiatry, that embarrassing discipline of medicine that operates outside the usual rules of evidence based science or prioritizing patient safety, religiously defend their practice of jolting the brain with electricity so hard that it causes the brain to have a seizure. Like religion, it is based on faith, not facts.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In this episode, physician Susan Cunliffe gives an insider’s view of the UK medical system where their own data shows 1 in 5 ECT patients experiences severe and permanent brain damage. But that doesn’t stop powerful psychiatrists from continuing to electrocute people’s brains and call it ‘medical care’.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Listen to find out who Susan found to help her brain to heal, and what she’s doing to heal a broken medical system.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Dr Susan Cunliffe:</p>
<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/CunliffeSue'>@CunliffeSue</a></p>
<p>Resources:</p>
<p>Headway (UK) <a href='https://www.headway.org.uk/about-brain-injury/'>https://www.headway.org.uk/about-brain-injury/</a></p>
<p>Head Injury - book - Trevor Powell <a href='https://www.amazon.co.uk/Head-Injury-Practical-Speechmark-Editions/dp/0863884512'>https://www.amazon.co.uk/Head-Injury-Practical-Speechmark-Editions/dp/0863884512</a></p>
<p>Facebook: </p>
<p>Drop the Disorder: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/1182483948461309'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/1182483948461309</a></p>
<p>International support group ECT survivors: </p>
<p><a href='https://m.facebook.com/groups/414257808688052?view=info&refid=18'> https://m.facebook.com/groups/414257808688052?view=info&refid=18</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In spite of our great science and medical advances in the last 100 years, what we know about how the body works is still embryonic. Especially when it comes to our body’s most complex organ - the brain - as Dr Susan Cunliffe can attest. 
Dr Cunliffe received numerous rounds of ECT - aka shock therapy -  each more powerful than the last, each designed to ensure Susan’s brain was assaulted so hard it had a seizure. 
The brain tries to protect itself from the convulsions and seizures caused by electricity - so it takes higher doses of electricity to induce the brain seizures. When Susan’s cognitive ability decreased after ECT, her symptoms were interpreted as worsening depression - not ECT induced brain damage - and she was given more ECT, causing more brain damage.
 
Psychiatry calls this a treatment. Others call it barbaric. 
 
But these are the facts:
Doctors don’t understand very much about the brain - for example, pharmaceutical manufacturers market antidepressant drugs on the idea that depression is a ‘chemical imbalance in your brain’ -- turns out, that’s not true, there is no evidence for a chemical imbalance as a cause of depression -- but that doesn’t stop 1,000s of unwitting doctors from prescribing them.
Doctors definitely don’t understand how electricity impacts the brain. Physicians don’t know how to treat the brain on any level beyond throwing powerful psych meds at it --  and they haven’t studied traumatic brain injury so they don’t know what symptoms to look for or how to recognize signs of injury -- yet they are allowed to put electricity through people’s brains.
 
Psychiatry, that embarrassing discipline of medicine that operates outside the usual rules of evidence based science or prioritizing patient safety, religiously defend their practice of jolting the brain with electricity so hard that it causes the brain to have a seizure. Like religion, it is based on faith, not facts.
 
In this episode, physician Susan Cunliffe gives an insider’s view of the UK medical system where their own data shows 1 in 5 ECT patients experiences severe and permanent brain damage. But that doesn’t stop powerful psychiatrists from continuing to electrocute people’s brains and call it ‘medical care’.
 
Listen to find out who Susan found to help her brain to heal, and what she’s doing to heal a broken medical system.
 
Connect with Dr Susan Cunliffe:
Twitter: @CunliffeSue
Resources:
Headway (UK) https://www.headway.org.uk/about-brain-injury/
Head Injury - book - Trevor Powell https://www.amazon.co.uk/Head-Injury-Practical-Speechmark-Editions/dp/0863884512
Facebook: 
Drop the Disorder: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1182483948461309
International support group ECT survivors: 
 https://m.facebook.com/groups/414257808688052?view=info&refid=18
 
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I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com
 
Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard.]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Mack Doyle has been sickly since birth -- and along the way medicine gave her numerous diagnoses to explain her symptoms, none of which turned out to be correct.</p>
<p>When Mack’s allergy skin tests showed her positive to over 140 foods, grasses, and pollen, the doctor didn’t believe it. “Impossible” he said. </p>
<p>He told Mack she wasn’t allergic to anything, she just had irritable bowel syndrome. But Mack had ‘been there, done’ that with an IBS misdiagnosis before and was adamant she had allergies.</p>
<p>Turns out the patient was right -- she just needed a doctor who could connect the dots of Mack’s various symptoms that pointed to mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS), essentially an overactive immune response by our mast cells.</p>
<p>Part of the problem of getting a diagnosis was that MCAS was not officially recognized until 2007, so even today very few physicians are aware of the disease. That means patients spend many years and a lot of money trying to get a diagnosis and treatment. </p>
<p>It also means a lot of undiagnosed MCAS patients face repeated gaslighting by physicians in a health care system that quickly defaults to the harmful trope ‘in your head’ for illnesses they can’t immediately diagnose.</p>
<p>Mack not only shares her health care journey experiences in finally getting a correct diagnosis, but also what she’s learned about the myriad ways MCAS can manifest. </p>
<p>If -- like me -- you have weird symptoms that doctors couldn’t explain or dismissed as ‘in your head’ -- then you’ll want to hear what Mack has learned about our mast cells and how you can manage them better.</p>
<p>Connect with Mack:</p>
<p>Twitter:<a href='https://twitter.com/MackWithMast'> https://twitter.com/MackWithMast</a></p>
<p>GoFundMe: <a href='https://t.co/iKQt1MYwON?amp=1'> https://gofundme.com/f/help-mackenzie-fight-mast-cell-disease…</a></p>
<p>Facebook Group:<a href='https://t.co/xsOYDVoavv?amp=1'> https://facebook.com/groups/MastCell</a></p>
<p>Personal Facebook:<a href='https://t.co/sudmb6vFJP?amp=1'> https://facebook.com/mackenzie.doyle.12</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mack Doyle has been sickly since birth -- and along the way medicine gave her numerous diagnoses to explain her symptoms, none of which turned out to be correct.</p>
<p>When Mack’s allergy skin tests showed her positive to over 140 foods, grasses, and pollen, the doctor didn’t believe it. “Impossible” he said. </p>
<p>He told Mack she wasn’t allergic to anything, she just had irritable bowel syndrome. But Mack had ‘been there, done’ that with an IBS misdiagnosis before and was adamant she had allergies.</p>
<p>Turns out the patient was right -- she just needed a doctor who could connect the dots of Mack’s various symptoms that pointed to mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS), essentially an overactive immune response by our mast cells.</p>
<p>Part of the problem of getting a diagnosis was that MCAS was not officially recognized until 2007, so even today very few physicians are aware of the disease. That means patients spend many years and a lot of money trying to get a diagnosis and treatment. </p>
<p>It also means a lot of undiagnosed MCAS patients face repeated gaslighting by physicians in a health care system that quickly defaults to the harmful trope ‘in your head’ for illnesses they can’t immediately diagnose.</p>
<p>Mack not only shares her health care journey experiences in finally getting a correct diagnosis, but also what she’s learned about the myriad ways MCAS can manifest. </p>
<p>If -- like me -- you have weird symptoms that doctors couldn’t explain or dismissed as ‘in your head’ -- then you’ll want to hear what Mack has learned about our mast cells and how you can manage them better.</p>
<p>Connect with Mack:</p>
<p>Twitter:<a href='https://twitter.com/MackWithMast'> https://twitter.com/MackWithMast</a></p>
<p>GoFundMe: <a href='https://t.co/iKQt1MYwON?amp=1'> https://gofundme.com/f/help-mackenzie-fight-mast-cell-disease…</a></p>
<p>Facebook Group:<a href='https://t.co/xsOYDVoavv?amp=1'> https://facebook.com/groups/MastCell</a></p>
<p>Personal Facebook:<a href='https://t.co/sudmb6vFJP?amp=1'> https://facebook.com/mackenzie.doyle.12</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Mack Doyle has been sickly since birth -- and along the way medicine gave her numerous diagnoses to explain her symptoms, none of which turned out to be correct.
When Mack’s allergy skin tests showed her positive to over 140 foods, grasses, and pollen, the doctor didn’t believe it. “Impossible” he said. 
He told Mack she wasn’t allergic to anything, she just had irritable bowel syndrome. But Mack had ‘been there, done’ that with an IBS misdiagnosis before and was adamant she had allergies.
Turns out the patient was right -- she just needed a doctor who could connect the dots of Mack’s various symptoms that pointed to mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS), essentially an overactive immune response by our mast cells.
Part of the problem of getting a diagnosis was that MCAS was not officially recognized until 2007, so even today very few physicians are aware of the disease. That means patients spend many years and a lot of money trying to get a diagnosis and treatment. 
It also means a lot of undiagnosed MCAS patients face repeated gaslighting by physicians in a health care system that quickly defaults to the harmful trope ‘in your head’ for illnesses they can’t immediately diagnose.
Mack not only shares her health care journey experiences in finally getting a correct diagnosis, but also what she’s learned about the myriad ways MCAS can manifest. 
If -- like me -- you have weird symptoms that doctors couldn’t explain or dismissed as ‘in your head’ -- then you’ll want to hear what Mack has learned about our mast cells and how you can manage them better.
Connect with Mack:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MackWithMast
GoFundMe:  https://gofundme.com/f/help-mackenzie-fight-mast-cell-disease…
Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/MastCell
Personal Facebook: https://facebook.com/mackenzie.doyle.12
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborat]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>If you’re living with a complex chronic illness, you’ve probably had many medical appointments -- and probably experienced many medical errors, from the benign errors that did not impact your life, to potentially serious errors that will forever lower your quality of life.</p>
<p>When Charis Hill’s pain skyrocketed and health tanked and no doctor’s were providing a correct diagnosis, Charis reached out to their estranged father, expecting to get advice on living with a disability. What Charis didn’t expect was for their father to diagnose Charis with ankylosing spondylitis, or AS, an inflammatory disease that causes bones in the spine to fuse. This fusing makes the spine less flexible, can cause a lot of pain and greatly impact mobility.</p>
<p>As Charis’s body failed, Charis’s identity as an athlete slipped away -- and so began a journey into the external financial world of health care and health insurance systems -- and a journey into the internal emotional world of trauma and meaning and growth. A journey that is taking - and making - Charis into an unintended chronic illness advocate, giving voice and political clout to the medically marginalized.</p>
<p>In our interview - where we faced some minor periodic technical challenges, so please roll with the intermittent audio glitches - Charis tells how they reinvented themselves and learned to love the mobility devices like wheelchairs -- symbols that represent disability to the able in society. Charis shares how these ‘disability symbols’ are actually tools to participate in society, tools of freedom.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Charis Hill:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>BeingCharis.com</p>
<p><a href='https://beingcharis.com/'>https://beingcharis.com</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Facebook: Charis Hill - Writer, Speaker, Advocate - Being Charis</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/BeingCharis'>https://www.facebook.com/BeingCharis</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Global Healthy Living Campaign:  <a href='https://www.ghlf.org/coronavirus-patient-support/'>https://www.ghlf.org/coronavirus-patient-support/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Spondylitis.org: <a href='https://spondylitis.org/resources-support/support-resources/'>https://spondylitis.org/resources-support/support-resources/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Becoming Incurable documentary:</p>
<p><a href='https://www.becomingincurable.com/'>https://www.becomingincurable.com</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p>

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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you’re living with a complex chronic illness, you’ve probably had many medical appointments -- and probably experienced many medical errors, from the benign errors that did not impact your life, to potentially serious errors that will forever lower your quality of life.</p>
<p>When Charis Hill’s pain skyrocketed and health tanked and no doctor’s were providing a correct diagnosis, Charis reached out to their estranged father, expecting to get advice on living with a disability. What Charis didn’t expect was for their father to diagnose Charis with ankylosing spondylitis, or AS, an inflammatory disease that causes bones in the spine to fuse. This fusing makes the spine less flexible, can cause a lot of pain and greatly impact mobility.</p>
<p>As Charis’s body failed, Charis’s identity as an athlete slipped away -- and so began a journey into the external financial world of health care and health insurance systems -- and a journey into the internal emotional world of trauma and meaning and growth. A journey that is taking - and making - Charis into an unintended chronic illness advocate, giving voice and political clout to the medically marginalized.</p>
<p>In our interview - where we faced some minor periodic technical challenges, so please roll with the intermittent audio glitches - Charis tells how they reinvented themselves and learned to love the mobility devices like wheelchairs -- symbols that represent disability to the able in society. Charis shares how these ‘disability symbols’ are actually tools to participate in society, tools of freedom.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Charis Hill:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>BeingCharis.com</p>
<p><a href='https://beingcharis.com/'>https://beingcharis.com</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Facebook: Charis Hill - Writer, Speaker, Advocate - Being Charis</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/BeingCharis'>https://www.facebook.com/BeingCharis</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Global Healthy Living Campaign:  <a href='https://www.ghlf.org/coronavirus-patient-support/'>https://www.ghlf.org/coronavirus-patient-support/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Spondylitis.org: <a href='https://spondylitis.org/resources-support/support-resources/'>https://spondylitis.org/resources-support/support-resources/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Becoming Incurable documentary:</p>
<p><a href='https://www.becomingincurable.com/'>https://www.becomingincurable.com</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p><br>
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<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[If you’re living with a complex chronic illness, you’ve probably had many medical appointments -- and probably experienced many medical errors, from the benign errors that did not impact your life, to potentially serious errors that will forever lower your quality of life.
When Charis Hill’s pain skyrocketed and health tanked and no doctor’s were providing a correct diagnosis, Charis reached out to their estranged father, expecting to get advice on living with a disability. What Charis didn’t expect was for their father to diagnose Charis with ankylosing spondylitis, or AS, an inflammatory disease that causes bones in the spine to fuse. This fusing makes the spine less flexible, can cause a lot of pain and greatly impact mobility.
As Charis’s body failed, Charis’s identity as an athlete slipped away -- and so began a journey into the external financial world of health care and health insurance systems -- and a journey into the internal emotional world of trauma and meaning and growth. A journey that is taking - and making - Charis into an unintended chronic illness advocate, giving voice and political clout to the medically marginalized.
In our interview - where we faced some minor periodic technical challenges, so please roll with the intermittent audio glitches - Charis tells how they reinvented themselves and learned to love the mobility devices like wheelchairs -- symbols that represent disability to the able in society. Charis shares how these ‘disability symbols’ are actually tools to participate in society, tools of freedom.
 
Connect with Charis Hill:
 
BeingCharis.com
https://beingcharis.com
 
Facebook: Charis Hill - Writer, Speaker, Advocate - Being Charis
https://www.facebook.com/BeingCharis
 
Global Healthy Living Campaign:  https://www.ghlf.org/coronavirus-patient-support/
 
Spondylitis.org: https://spondylitis.org/resources-support/support-resources/
 
Becoming Incurable documentary:
https://www.becomingincurable.com
 
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
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        <title>Candia McCullough: Sliced to bits: illegal mesh surgically implanted without consent</title>
        <itunes:title>Candia McCullough: Sliced to bits: illegal mesh surgically implanted without consent</itunes:title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When Candia McCullough went in for routine hysterectomy surgery for her heavy periods, she was expecting the surgery to give her a better quality of life.</p>
<p>What she was not expecting - and did not consent - was to have a medical device implanted into her abdomen and have it attached to her spine, bladder and colon. </p>
<p>When Candia awoke from the surgery, the surgeon proudly told her he had implanted a plastic mesh in her abdomen to support her internal organs. </p>
<p>While the surgeon boasted about his surgical expertise, Candia was emotionally shocked he had done a medical device implant surgery without her consent, and physically immersed in pain as the plastic mesh dug into and perforated her internal organs. </p>
<p>As the plastic mesh gets warmed by the body, it degrades and releases toxic chemicals into Candia’s system. The plastic mesh also twists and pokes holes in Candia’s internal organs causing incredible constant pain - like 9 out of 10 on the pain scale - and often made worse by movement.</p>
<p>But instead of getting medical care and support for the damage done by the illegal mesh implanted without her consent, Candia was gaslighted by the medical system as they denied the plastic mesh could be causing her myriad symptoms and told Candia her physical pain and symptoms were psychosomatic. In doing this, the health ‘care’ system essentially deepened Candia’s trauma.</p>
<p>In this interview with Candia and her husband Ian, they recount the far reaching impact the plastic mesh implant has had on their lives, their marriage and their mental health.</p>
<p>
Connect with Candia:</p>
<p> </p>
Website: <a href='http://www.meshuk.org/'>www.meshuk.org</a>
E-mail: <a href='mailto:info@meshuk.org'>info@meshuk.org</a>
Twitter: @MeshUKCT @CandiaMcCullou2
Instagram: mesh_ukcharitabletrust
Youtube:  <a href='http://www.youtube.com/c/meshukcharitabletrust'>www.youtube.com/c/meshukcharitabletrust</a>
Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/MeshUKCT/'>https://www.facebook.com/MeshUKCT/</a>
<p> </p>
Link to our evidence we gave to our Government in respects to surgical mesh: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC2dGNt_5dY'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC2dGNt_5dY</a>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Candia McCullough went in for routine hysterectomy surgery for her heavy periods, she was expecting the surgery to give her a better quality of life.</p>
<p>What she was not expecting - and did not consent - was to have a medical device implanted into her abdomen and have it attached to her spine, bladder and colon. </p>
<p>When Candia awoke from the surgery, the surgeon proudly told her he had implanted a plastic mesh in her abdomen to support her internal organs. </p>
<p>While the surgeon boasted about his surgical expertise, Candia was emotionally shocked he had done a medical device implant surgery without her consent, and physically immersed in pain as the plastic mesh dug into and perforated her internal organs. </p>
<p>As the plastic mesh gets warmed by the body, it degrades and releases toxic chemicals into Candia’s system. The plastic mesh also twists and pokes holes in Candia’s internal organs causing incredible constant pain - like 9 out of 10 on the pain scale - and often made worse by movement.</p>
<p>But instead of getting medical care and support for the damage done by the illegal mesh implanted without her consent, Candia was gaslighted by the medical system as they denied the plastic mesh could be causing her myriad symptoms and told Candia her physical pain and symptoms were psychosomatic. In doing this, the health ‘care’ system essentially deepened Candia’s trauma.</p>
<p>In this interview with Candia and her husband Ian, they recount the far reaching impact the plastic mesh implant has had on their lives, their marriage and their mental health.</p>
<p><br>
Connect with Candia:</p>
<p> </p>
Website: <a href='http://www.meshuk.org/'>www.meshuk.org</a>
E-mail: <a href='mailto:info@meshuk.org'>info@meshuk.org</a>
Twitter: @MeshUKCT @CandiaMcCullou2
Instagram: mesh_ukcharitabletrust
Youtube:  <a href='http://www.youtube.com/c/meshukcharitabletrust'>www.youtube.com/c/meshukcharitabletrust</a>
Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/MeshUKCT/'>https://www.facebook.com/MeshUKCT/</a>
<p> </p>
Link to our evidence we gave to our Government in respects to surgical mesh: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC2dGNt_5dY'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC2dGNt_5dY</a>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When Candia McCullough went in for routine hysterectomy surgery for her heavy periods, she was expecting the surgery to give her a better quality of life.
What she was not expecting - and did not consent - was to have a medical device implanted into her abdomen and have it attached to her spine, bladder and colon. 
When Candia awoke from the surgery, the surgeon proudly told her he had implanted a plastic mesh in her abdomen to support her internal organs. 
While the surgeon boasted about his surgical expertise, Candia was emotionally shocked he had done a medical device implant surgery without her consent, and physically immersed in pain as the plastic mesh dug into and perforated her internal organs. 
As the plastic mesh gets warmed by the body, it degrades and releases toxic chemicals into Candia’s system. The plastic mesh also twists and pokes holes in Candia’s internal organs causing incredible constant pain - like 9 out of 10 on the pain scale - and often made worse by movement.
But instead of getting medical care and support for the damage done by the illegal mesh implanted without her consent, Candia was gaslighted by the medical system as they denied the plastic mesh could be causing her myriad symptoms and told Candia her physical pain and symptoms were psychosomatic. In doing this, the health ‘care’ system essentially deepened Candia’s trauma.
In this interview with Candia and her husband Ian, they recount the far reaching impact the plastic mesh implant has had on their lives, their marriage and their mental health.
Connect with Candia:
 
Website: www.meshuk.org
E-mail: info@meshuk.org
Twitter: @MeshUKCT @CandiaMcCullou2
Instagram: mesh_ukcharitabletrust
Youtube:  www.youtube.com/c/meshukcharitabletrust
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MeshUKCT/
 
Link to our evidence we gave to our Government in respects to surgical mesh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC2dGNt_5dY
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        <title>Rachel Winters (part 2): Accutane Injury -- Doubly Deceived by Medicine and Family</title>
        <itunes:title>Rachel Winters (part 2): Accutane Injury -- Doubly Deceived by Medicine and Family</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/rachel-winters-part-2-accutane-injury-doubly-deceived-by-medicine-and-family/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 04:20:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>As we learned in part 1 of Rachel’s interview, she comes from a family of physicians, and when she was seriously injured by Accutane, a medication many teens and young adults take for acne, Rachel found herself at odds with her family’s complete buy-in to the corporate pharmaceutical narrative and their wholesale acceptance of Big Pharma’s so-called research.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>All the doctors denied Accutane injured Rachel and diagnosed her as psychosomatic. Rachel’s family also didn’t believe her, calling into question her mental stability.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Not surprisingly Rachel felt doubly deceived by medicine and her family, and as pretty much any one who’s experienced a medical error can attest, when doctors and hospitals deny the error or the harm it caused, that invalidated trauma gets deepened.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In part 2, Rachel tells about the pressure from her family to abandon natural approaches to health and embrace ‘better living through chemistry’, including taking Accutane for moderate acne. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>We then hear the hellish side effects Rachel has and continues to endure, what she learned when she took a deep dive into Accutane side effects and the pharmaceutical industry, and how she’s coping with through advocacy and education.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Rachel and community:</p>
<p>Accutane Long-Term Side Effects 3.3k members</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/214733665588935/'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/214733665588935/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Accutane Survivors, Roaccutane, Isotretinoin Injuries & Side Effects 10.7k members</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/AccutaneSurvivors/'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/AccutaneSurvivors/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2392501904403462&ref=br_rs'>Life After Accutane - A Group For People Damaged By Isotretinoin</a>  - 300 members (for accutane survivors only)</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifeafteraccutane/'>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifeafteraccutane/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>RxPilld (our awareness platform for pharmaceutical injuries):</p>
<p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2FCCzGU8gWCFrzS5CbjCoQ'>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2FCCzGU8gWCFrzS5CbjCoQ</a> </p>
<p>

</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
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<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p> </p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p>

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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we learned in part 1 of Rachel’s interview, she comes from a family of physicians, and when she was seriously injured by Accutane, a medication many teens and young adults take for acne, Rachel found herself at odds with her family’s complete buy-in to the corporate pharmaceutical narrative and their wholesale acceptance of Big Pharma’s so-called research.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>All the doctors denied Accutane injured Rachel and diagnosed her as psychosomatic. Rachel’s family also didn’t believe her, calling into question her mental stability.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Not surprisingly Rachel felt doubly deceived by medicine and her family, and as pretty much any one who’s experienced a medical error can attest, when doctors and hospitals deny the error or the harm it caused, that invalidated trauma gets deepened.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In part 2, Rachel tells about the pressure from her family to abandon natural approaches to health and embrace ‘better living through chemistry’, including taking Accutane for moderate acne. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>We then hear the hellish side effects Rachel has and continues to endure, what she learned when she took a deep dive into Accutane side effects and the pharmaceutical industry, and how she’s coping with through advocacy and education.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Rachel and community:</p>
<p>Accutane Long-Term Side Effects 3.3k members</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/214733665588935/'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/214733665588935/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Accutane Survivors, Roaccutane, Isotretinoin Injuries & Side Effects 10.7k members</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/AccutaneSurvivors/'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/AccutaneSurvivors/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2392501904403462&ref=br_rs'>Life After Accutane - A Group For People Damaged By Isotretinoin</a>  - 300 members (for accutane survivors only)</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifeafteraccutane/'>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifeafteraccutane/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>RxPilld (our awareness platform for pharmaceutical injuries):</p>
<p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2FCCzGU8gWCFrzS5CbjCoQ'>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2FCCzGU8gWCFrzS5CbjCoQ</a> </p>
<p><br>
<br>
</p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p> </p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p><br>
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</p>
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All the doctors denied Accutane injured Rachel and diagnosed her as psychosomatic. Rachel’s family also didn’t believe her, calling into question her mental stability.
 
Not surprisingly Rachel felt doubly deceived by medicine and her family, and as pretty much any one who’s experienced a medical error can attest, when doctors and hospitals deny the error or the harm it caused, that invalidated trauma gets deepened.
 
In part 2, Rachel tells about the pressure from her family to abandon natural approaches to health and embrace ‘better living through chemistry’, including taking Accutane for moderate acne. 
 
We then hear the hellish side effects Rachel has and continues to endure, what she learned when she took a deep dive into Accutane side effects and the pharmaceutical industry, and how she’s coping with through advocacy and education.
 
Connect with Rachel and community:
Accutane Long-Term Side Effects 3.3k members
https://www.facebook.com/groups/214733665588935/
 
Accutane Survivors, Roaccutane, Isotretinoin Injuries & Side Effects 10.7k members
https://www.facebook.com/groups/AccutaneSurvivors/
 
Life After Accutane - A Group For People Damaged By Isotretinoin  - 300 members (for accutane survivors only)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifeafteraccutane/
 
RxPilld (our awareness platform for pharmaceutical injuries):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2FCCzGU8gWCFrzS5CbjCoQ 

Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
 
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com
 

 
Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
 
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
 
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Mya]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Growing up in an affluent community, but as the only non-white kid in her school, Rachel Winters learned early how our social narratives, be they ethnic or medical, can have profound impacts on our life trajectory.</p>
<p>Coming from a family of physicians with a ‘better living through chemistry’ approach to medicine and pharmaceuticals, Rachel’s trust in the medical system was deeply ingrained from an early age. </p>
<p>Her father assured her that medications were safe, and encouraged Rachel to not feel ashamed about taking pharmaceuticals. When Rachel had trouble sleeping, her mother shared her own sleeping medications. When Rachel had a foot issue and wanted a simple out patient treatment, her father insisted on ‘proven’ invasive and disabling surgery.</p>
<p>So when Rachel’s body became dependent on medication given for an erroneous diagnosis, and her foot surgery induced blood curdling screaming pain, Rachel began to see the cavernous cracks in the health care system. She realized she had been repeatedly betrayed by so-called evidence based medicine. In fact, health care is often decision based evidence making.</p>
<p>When Rache’s family dismissed the medication side effects and her physical symptoms as psychological, the sense of medical and familial betrayal deepened.</p>
<p>In part 1 of this interview Rachel shares how her family of physicians shaped her trust in the scientific process and medical establishment, but it was her real world experience of multiple medical errors that opened her eyes to the reality of health care, big pharma, and the role of physicians in perpetuating profits over people.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Rachel and community:</p>
<p>Accutane Long-Term Side Effects 3.3k members</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/214733665588935/'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/214733665588935/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Accutane Survivors, Roaccutane, Isotretinoin Injuries & Side Effects 10.7k members</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/AccutaneSurvivors/'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/AccutaneSurvivors/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2392501904403462&ref=br_rs'>Life After Accutane - A Group For People Damaged By Isotretinoin</a>  - 300 members (for accutane survivors only)</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifeafteraccutane/'>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifeafteraccutane/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>RxPilld (our awareness platform for pharmaceutical injuries):</p>
<p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2FCCzGU8gWCFrzS5CbjCoQ'>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2FCCzGU8gWCFrzS5CbjCoQ</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p>


</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up in an affluent community, but as the only non-white kid in her school, Rachel Winters learned early how our social narratives, be they ethnic or medical, can have profound impacts on our life trajectory.</p>
<p>Coming from a family of physicians with a ‘better living through chemistry’ approach to medicine and pharmaceuticals, Rachel’s trust in the medical system was deeply ingrained from an early age. </p>
<p>Her father assured her that medications were safe, and encouraged Rachel to not feel ashamed about taking pharmaceuticals. When Rachel had trouble sleeping, her mother shared her own sleeping medications. When Rachel had a foot issue and wanted a simple out patient treatment, her father insisted on ‘proven’ invasive and disabling surgery.</p>
<p>So when Rachel’s body became dependent on medication given for an erroneous diagnosis, and her foot surgery induced blood curdling screaming pain, Rachel began to see the cavernous cracks in the health care system. She realized she had been repeatedly betrayed by so-called evidence based medicine. In fact, health care is often decision based evidence making.</p>
<p>When Rache’s family dismissed the medication side effects and her physical symptoms as psychological, the sense of medical and familial betrayal deepened.</p>
<p>In part 1 of this interview Rachel shares how her family of physicians shaped her trust in the scientific process and medical establishment, but it was her real world experience of multiple medical errors that opened her eyes to the reality of health care, big pharma, and the role of physicians in perpetuating profits over people.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Rachel and community:</p>
<p>Accutane Long-Term Side Effects 3.3k members</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/214733665588935/'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/214733665588935/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Accutane Survivors, Roaccutane, Isotretinoin Injuries & Side Effects 10.7k members</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/AccutaneSurvivors/'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/AccutaneSurvivors/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2392501904403462&ref=br_rs'>Life After Accutane - A Group For People Damaged By Isotretinoin</a>  - 300 members (for accutane survivors only)</p>
<p><a href='https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifeafteraccutane/'>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifeafteraccutane/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>RxPilld (our awareness platform for pharmaceutical injuries):</p>
<p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2FCCzGU8gWCFrzS5CbjCoQ'>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2FCCzGU8gWCFrzS5CbjCoQ</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Growing up in an affluent community, but as the only non-white kid in her school, Rachel Winters learned early how our social narratives, be they ethnic or medical, can have profound impacts on our life trajectory.
Coming from a family of physicians with a ‘better living through chemistry’ approach to medicine and pharmaceuticals, Rachel’s trust in the medical system was deeply ingrained from an early age. 
Her father assured her that medications were safe, and encouraged Rachel to not feel ashamed about taking pharmaceuticals. When Rachel had trouble sleeping, her mother shared her own sleeping medications. When Rachel had a foot issue and wanted a simple out patient treatment, her father insisted on ‘proven’ invasive and disabling surgery.
So when Rachel’s body became dependent on medication given for an erroneous diagnosis, and her foot surgery induced blood curdling screaming pain, Rachel began to see the cavernous cracks in the health care system. She realized she had been repeatedly betrayed by so-called evidence based medicine. In fact, health care is often decision based evidence making.
When Rache’s family dismissed the medication side effects and her physical symptoms as psychological, the sense of medical and familial betrayal deepened.
In part 1 of this interview Rachel shares how her family of physicians shaped her trust in the scientific process and medical establishment, but it was her real world experience of multiple medical errors that opened her eyes to the reality of health care, big pharma, and the role of physicians in perpetuating profits over people.
 
Connect with Rachel and community:
Accutane Long-Term Side Effects 3.3k members
https://www.facebook.com/groups/214733665588935/
 
Accutane Survivors, Roaccutane, Isotretinoin Injuries & Side Effects 10.7k members
https://www.facebook.com/groups/AccutaneSurvivors/
 
Life After Accutane - A Group For People Damaged By Isotretinoin  - 300 members (for accutane survivors only)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifeafteraccutane/
 
RxPilld (our awareness platform for pharmaceutical injuries):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2FCCzGU8gWCFrzS5CbjCoQ 
 
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I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When I saw that Chandra Pasma was interviewed by media outlets, and that she lead the push for health officials to acknowledge and act upon patients still sick with COVID, I knew I needed to reach out to her and find out her experience with COVID and the health care system.</p>
<p>While the medical system has long known, but rarely acknowledged, that some people don’t recover from viral infections, and instead continue to experience a wide range of neurological symptoms, the COVID pandemic - and patient advocates like Chandra - are forcing health care systems to address the research, treatment and care of long haul COVID patients, and by extension, the millions of others who previously got sick with ‘the flu’, but remained sick -- sometimes so ill, they are house and bed bound, requiring total personal support.</p>
<p>You may be asking yourself: if medicine has known for a long time some people don’t recover from viral infections, why haven’t they been researching it?</p>
<p>Mostly it is because there is a wide spread and embedded medical error in the medical system -- it is so embedded, most physicians are blind to it. Just like fish don’t see water. </p>
<p>This institutional error is the physician’s ingrained habit of telling patients with physical symptoms with no obvious cause, that they are ‘all in your head’.  This is known informally in patient circles as gaslighting. It is more formally called medical harm. And it is a pandemic unto itself.</p>
<p>But with millions of people infected with COVID, and early reports that at least 1 in 10 are not recovering, it will be near impossible for physicians to dismiss long haul COVID patients’ symptoms as ‘all in your head’.</p>
<p>The cruel irony is that for at least 3 decades, biological research on people with post viral illnesses, like MEcfs and SARS, had been mostly non-existent. And we can thank psychiatry, the least reputable division of medicine, for impeding biological research funding, and instead, embedding medical error in the form of gaslighting, in health care systems around the world.</p>
<p>So this may be one of the ‘good’ things that come out of the COVID pandemic: stopping the medical harm from physicians and psychiatrists of patients who don’t recover from viral infections. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Chandra Pasma on twitter: @ChandraPasma</p>
<p>Long Covid Facebook: </p>
<p>COVID Long Haulers Support Group Canada</p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/920314451799658</p>
<p>COVID Long Haulers Canada:</p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/950023472135178</p>
<p>Body Politic - COVID support group: https://www.wearebodypolitic.com/covid19</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I saw that Chandra Pasma was interviewed by media outlets, and that she lead the push for health officials to acknowledge and act upon patients still sick with COVID, I knew I needed to reach out to her and find out her experience with COVID and the health care system.</p>
<p>While the medical system has long known, but rarely acknowledged, that some people don’t recover from viral infections, and instead continue to experience a wide range of neurological symptoms, the COVID pandemic - and patient advocates like Chandra - are forcing health care systems to address the research, treatment and care of long haul COVID patients, and by extension, the millions of others who previously got sick with ‘the flu’, but remained sick -- sometimes so ill, they are house and bed bound, requiring total personal support.</p>
<p>You may be asking yourself: if medicine has known for a long time some people don’t recover from viral infections, why haven’t they been researching it?</p>
<p>Mostly it is because there is a wide spread and embedded medical error in the medical system -- it is so embedded, most physicians are blind to it. Just like fish don’t see water. </p>
<p>This institutional error is the physician’s ingrained habit of telling patients with physical symptoms with no obvious cause, that they are ‘all in your head’.  This is known informally in patient circles as gaslighting. It is more formally called medical harm. And it is a pandemic unto itself.</p>
<p>But with millions of people infected with COVID, and early reports that at least 1 in 10 are not recovering, it will be near impossible for physicians to dismiss long haul COVID patients’ symptoms as ‘all in your head’.</p>
<p>The cruel irony is that for at least 3 decades, biological research on people with post viral illnesses, like MEcfs and SARS, had been mostly non-existent. And we can thank psychiatry, the least reputable division of medicine, for impeding biological research funding, and instead, embedding medical error in the form of gaslighting, in health care systems around the world.</p>
<p>So this may be one of the ‘good’ things that come out of the COVID pandemic: stopping the medical harm from physicians and psychiatrists of patients who don’t recover from viral infections. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Connect with Chandra Pasma on twitter: @ChandraPasma</p>
<p>Long Covid Facebook: </p>
<p>COVID Long Haulers Support Group Canada</p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/920314451799658</p>
<p>COVID Long Haulers Canada:</p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/950023472135178</p>
<p>Body Politic - COVID support group: https://www.wearebodypolitic.com/covid19</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When I saw that Chandra Pasma was interviewed by media outlets, and that she lead the push for health officials to acknowledge and act upon patients still sick with COVID, I knew I needed to reach out to her and find out her experience with COVID and the health care system.
While the medical system has long known, but rarely acknowledged, that some people don’t recover from viral infections, and instead continue to experience a wide range of neurological symptoms, the COVID pandemic - and patient advocates like Chandra - are forcing health care systems to address the research, treatment and care of long haul COVID patients, and by extension, the millions of others who previously got sick with ‘the flu’, but remained sick -- sometimes so ill, they are house and bed bound, requiring total personal support.
You may be asking yourself: if medicine has known for a long time some people don’t recover from viral infections, why haven’t they been researching it?
Mostly it is because there is a wide spread and embedded medical error in the medical system -- it is so embedded, most physicians are blind to it. Just like fish don’t see water. 
This institutional error is the physician’s ingrained habit of telling patients with physical symptoms with no obvious cause, that they are ‘all in your head’.  This is known informally in patient circles as gaslighting. It is more formally called medical harm. And it is a pandemic unto itself.
But with millions of people infected with COVID, and early reports that at least 1 in 10 are not recovering, it will be near impossible for physicians to dismiss long haul COVID patients’ symptoms as ‘all in your head’.
The cruel irony is that for at least 3 decades, biological research on people with post viral illnesses, like MEcfs and SARS, had been mostly non-existent. And we can thank psychiatry, the least reputable division of medicine, for impeding biological research funding, and instead, embedding medical error in the form of gaslighting, in health care systems around the world.
So this may be one of the ‘good’ things that come out of the COVID pandemic: stopping the medical harm from physicians and psychiatrists of patients who don’t recover from viral infections. 
 
Connect with Chandra Pasma on twitter: @ChandraPasma
Long Covid Facebook: 
COVID Long Haulers Support Group Canada
https://www.facebook.com/groups/920314451799658
COVID Long Haulers Canada:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/950023472135178
Body Politic - COVID support group: https://www.wearebodypolitic.com/covid19
 
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
 
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
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        <itunes:title>Debbie Lambert: Black Box Warning: MRI with Contrast can cause Gadolinium Toxicity</itunes:title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When I first connected with Debbie Lambert about her experience with gadolinium toxicity, I had to google ‘gadolinium’. When I read that gadolinium is the substance they inject you when you get an ‘MRI with contrast’ and that it can cause toxicity, I immediately started to search my memory. </p>
<p>I can recall at least one occasion of getting an MRI with contrast -- I remember the warm sensation it caused in my body, and the technicians telling me to drink lots of water to flush the chemical out of my body.</p>
<p>After interviewing Debbie about her experiences living with the disabling chronic symptoms, and learning the facts about gadolinium toxicity, like the black box warning the FDA now requires, and the admission by the manufacturer that gadolinium accumulates in the body, I’m shocked that I’d never heard about this widespread problem.  I guess that’s a testament to the medical industries ability to hide, ignore and deny medical errors.</p>
<p>As Debbie recounts, she was experiencing severe pain and it was determined it was emanating from her pancreas. Debbit was sent for a routine MRI with contrast to be able to get a better image of her troubled pancreas. The MRI technician did not ask for Debbie’s consent to be injected with gadolinium or inform Debbie about any potential harms from the invasive procedure. Debbie was hooked up to an IV and the gadolinium started to flow into her veins. </p>
<p>It was during Debbie’s 3rd MRI with contrast when things went horribly wrong and Debbie felt like she was being fried from the inside out. Debbie told the MRI technician immediately, but Debbie’s symptoms were dismissed and she was told to drink lots of water.</p>
<p>But water wasn’t going to cure the damage done to Debbie’s organs. Water wasn’t going to stop the pain. Water wasn’t going to stop her from being disabled.</p>
<p>Debbie does share what has helped - but not cured - her battle with gadolinium toxicity, and she shares about the community of survivors advocating and creating awareness about this problem so that others can make informed decisions about having the procedure.</p>
<p>If you’ve had an MRI with contrast, or are concerned about the potential harm from gadolinium toxicity, you’ll want to hear what Debbie has learned about the medical system, the legal system, and your body’s systems when they are exposed to this rare earth metal.</p>
<p>Connect with Debbie Lambert on twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/lambertdebb'>@DebbieLambert</a></p>
<p>On Facebook - Living With Gadolinium: <a href='https://t.co/XxTctW9CWd?amp=1'>https://m.facebook.com/livingwithgadadmin/…</a></p>
<p>Info about MRIs and Gadolinium Toxicity:</p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/FZePEpwSHm?amp=1'>ttp://Mridye.com</a> </p>
<p>Amazon e-book by Dr. Catriona Walsh: <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Contrasts-More-than-meets-MRI-ebook/dp/B084GVCRVX'>Contrasts: More Than Meets The MRI</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first connected with Debbie Lambert about her experience with gadolinium toxicity, I had to google ‘gadolinium’. When I read that gadolinium is the substance they inject you when you get an ‘MRI with contrast’ and that it can cause toxicity, I immediately started to search my memory. </p>
<p>I can recall at least one occasion of getting an MRI with contrast -- I remember the warm sensation it caused in my body, and the technicians telling me to drink lots of water to flush the chemical out of my body.</p>
<p>After interviewing Debbie about her experiences living with the disabling chronic symptoms, and learning the facts about gadolinium toxicity, like the black box warning the FDA now requires, and the admission by the manufacturer that gadolinium accumulates in the body, I’m shocked that I’d never heard about this widespread problem.  I guess that’s a testament to the medical industries ability to hide, ignore and deny medical errors.</p>
<p>As Debbie recounts, she was experiencing severe pain and it was determined it was emanating from her pancreas. Debbit was sent for a routine MRI with contrast to be able to get a better image of her troubled pancreas. The MRI technician did not ask for Debbie’s consent to be injected with gadolinium or inform Debbie about any potential harms from the invasive procedure. Debbie was hooked up to an IV and the gadolinium started to flow into her veins. </p>
<p>It was during Debbie’s 3rd MRI with contrast when things went horribly wrong and Debbie felt like she was being fried from the inside out. Debbie told the MRI technician immediately, but Debbie’s symptoms were dismissed and she was told to drink lots of water.</p>
<p>But water wasn’t going to cure the damage done to Debbie’s organs. Water wasn’t going to stop the pain. Water wasn’t going to stop her from being disabled.</p>
<p>Debbie does share what has helped - but not cured - her battle with gadolinium toxicity, and she shares about the community of survivors advocating and creating awareness about this problem so that others can make informed decisions about having the procedure.</p>
<p>If you’ve had an MRI with contrast, or are concerned about the potential harm from gadolinium toxicity, you’ll want to hear what Debbie has learned about the medical system, the legal system, and your body’s systems when they are exposed to this rare earth metal.</p>
<p>Connect with Debbie Lambert on twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/lambertdebb'>@DebbieLambert</a></p>
<p>On Facebook - Living With Gadolinium: <a href='https://t.co/XxTctW9CWd?amp=1'>https://m.facebook.com/livingwithgadadmin/…</a></p>
<p>Info about MRIs and Gadolinium Toxicity:</p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/FZePEpwSHm?amp=1'>ttp://Mridye.com</a> </p>
<p>Amazon e-book by Dr. Catriona Walsh: <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Contrasts-More-than-meets-MRI-ebook/dp/B084GVCRVX'>Contrasts: More Than Meets The MRI</a></p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  <a href='mailto:RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com'>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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I can recall at least one occasion of getting an MRI with contrast -- I remember the warm sensation it caused in my body, and the technicians telling me to drink lots of water to flush the chemical out of my body.
After interviewing Debbie about her experiences living with the disabling chronic symptoms, and learning the facts about gadolinium toxicity, like the black box warning the FDA now requires, and the admission by the manufacturer that gadolinium accumulates in the body, I’m shocked that I’d never heard about this widespread problem.  I guess that’s a testament to the medical industries ability to hide, ignore and deny medical errors.
As Debbie recounts, she was experiencing severe pain and it was determined it was emanating from her pancreas. Debbit was sent for a routine MRI with contrast to be able to get a better image of her troubled pancreas. The MRI technician did not ask for Debbie’s consent to be injected with gadolinium or inform Debbie about any potential harms from the invasive procedure. Debbie was hooked up to an IV and the gadolinium started to flow into her veins. 
It was during Debbie’s 3rd MRI with contrast when things went horribly wrong and Debbie felt like she was being fried from the inside out. Debbie told the MRI technician immediately, but Debbie’s symptoms were dismissed and she was told to drink lots of water.
But water wasn’t going to cure the damage done to Debbie’s organs. Water wasn’t going to stop the pain. Water wasn’t going to stop her from being disabled.
Debbie does share what has helped - but not cured - her battle with gadolinium toxicity, and she shares about the community of survivors advocating and creating awareness about this problem so that others can make informed decisions about having the procedure.
If you’ve had an MRI with contrast, or are concerned about the potential harm from gadolinium toxicity, you’ll want to hear what Debbie has learned about the medical system, the legal system, and your body’s systems when they are exposed to this rare earth metal.
Connect with Debbie Lambert on twitter: @DebbieLambert
On Facebook - Living With Gadolinium: https://m.facebook.com/livingwithgadadmin/…
Info about MRIs and Gadolinium Toxicity:
ttp://Mridye.com 
Amazon e-book by Dr. Catriona Walsh: Contrasts: More Than Meets The MRI
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
 
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 
Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When you have a family member or loved one that needs medical care, and you do the research to find one the best doctors and one of the best hospitals to provide safe care, you expect that person will receive proper medical support. </p>
<p>What you don’t expect, is that they will kill your loved one.</p>
<p>But that’s what happened when college student Alex Smick injured his back when he fell off his skateboard and then was prescribed a succession of opioid painkillers.</p>
<p>As Alex’s mother, Tammy Smick shares, doctors were quick to hand out big pharma’s big profit opioid painkillers, causing Alex to have a dependence on them. As a grounded and responsible young man, Alex recognized what was happening and with his parent’s support, was proactive in seeking high quality, high priced, health care.</p>
<p>But as Tammy recounts, within hours of checking into the hospital, Alex was killed by health care.</p>
<p>The trauma from Alex’s unexpected death was deepened when Tammy found out the truth as to why her son died at the hands of doctors and nurses. The layers of trauma were further deepened when the doctor’s so-called punishment was secured through a closed door, backroom deal that left Alex’s family as powerless bystanders.</p>
<p>Tammy tells us how she and her husband Tim have responded to the tragedy and injustice and are making meaning in Alex’s memory. Tammy shares about their relentless journey through the medico-political-legal system in their efforts for justice, for truth, and for systemic change so that other families don’t suffer the same needless institutional horrors.</p>
<p>In the first part of the interview, you’ll hear Tammy’s neighbour in the background using a power tool to build an Ark or something, it’s kind of annoying, but it’s short lived, and fades away as Tammy recounts Alex’s last day.</p>
<p>Connect with Tammy Smick on twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/TammySmick'>@TammySmick</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p></p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p>


</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you have a family member or loved one that needs medical care, and you do the research to find one the best doctors and one of the best hospitals to provide safe care, you expect that person will receive proper medical support. </p>
<p>What you don’t expect, is that they will kill your loved one.</p>
<p>But that’s what happened when college student Alex Smick injured his back when he fell off his skateboard and then was prescribed a succession of opioid painkillers.</p>
<p>As Alex’s mother, Tammy Smick shares, doctors were quick to hand out big pharma’s big profit opioid painkillers, causing Alex to have a dependence on them. As a grounded and responsible young man, Alex recognized what was happening and with his parent’s support, was proactive in seeking high quality, high priced, health care.</p>
<p>But as Tammy recounts, within hours of checking into the hospital, Alex was killed by health care.</p>
<p>The trauma from Alex’s unexpected death was deepened when Tammy found out the truth as to why her son died at the hands of doctors and nurses. The layers of trauma were further deepened when the doctor’s so-called punishment was secured through a closed door, backroom deal that left Alex’s family as powerless bystanders.</p>
<p>Tammy tells us how she and her husband Tim have responded to the tragedy and injustice and are making meaning in Alex’s memory. Tammy shares about their relentless journey through the medico-political-legal system in their efforts for justice, for truth, and for systemic change so that other families don’t suffer the same needless institutional horrors.</p>
<p>In the first part of the interview, you’ll hear Tammy’s neighbour in the background using a power tool to build an Ark or something, it’s kind of annoying, but it’s short lived, and fades away as Tammy recounts Alex’s last day.</p>
<p>Connect with Tammy Smick on twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/TammySmick'>@TammySmick</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p></p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p><br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When you have a family member or loved one that needs medical care, and you do the research to find one the best doctors and one of the best hospitals to provide safe care, you expect that person will receive proper medical support. 
What you don’t expect, is that they will kill your loved one.
But that’s what happened when college student Alex Smick injured his back when he fell off his skateboard and then was prescribed a succession of opioid painkillers.
As Alex’s mother, Tammy Smick shares, doctors were quick to hand out big pharma’s big profit opioid painkillers, causing Alex to have a dependence on them. As a grounded and responsible young man, Alex recognized what was happening and with his parent’s support, was proactive in seeking high quality, high priced, health care.
But as Tammy recounts, within hours of checking into the hospital, Alex was killed by health care.
The trauma from Alex’s unexpected death was deepened when Tammy found out the truth as to why her son died at the hands of doctors and nurses. The layers of trauma were further deepened when the doctor’s so-called punishment was secured through a closed door, backroom deal that left Alex’s family as powerless bystanders.
Tammy tells us how she and her husband Tim have responded to the tragedy and injustice and are making meaning in Alex’s memory. Tammy shares about their relentless journey through the medico-political-legal system in their efforts for justice, for truth, and for systemic change so that other families don’t suffer the same needless institutional horrors.
In the first part of the interview, you’ll hear Tammy’s neighbour in the background using a power tool to build an Ark or something, it’s kind of annoying, but it’s short lived, and fades away as Tammy recounts Alex’s last day.
Connect with Tammy Smick on twitter: @TammySmick
 
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
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I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 

Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com
Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdiscipl]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>As a child, Amber had a very rare illness that made the small blood vessels in her skin, joints, intestines, and kidneys inflamed and bleed. Amber was so ill her mother thought Amber was dying.</p>
<p>But Amber survived, got married and had children and thrived...until 3 days after having her gallbladder removed, when she experienced horrendous pain, far worse than the pain of childbirth.</p>
<p>Painkillers did little to stop the upper abdominal pain Amber was experiencing, and when her blood tests came back normal, doctors suggested Amber was faking it to get pain medication. </p>
<p>But the doctors weren’t listening to Amber’s reports that pain medications didn’t help, and sometimes made the horrific pain even worse. In spite of writhing in pain on the emergency room floor, Amber’s pain was often minimized or outright dismissed and she was labeled a drug seeker.</p>
<p>While Amber’s illness turned out to be a rare complication of gallbladder surgery, her experience of pain being dismissed, or being accused of lying, or of having psychological problems, is not rare. </p>
<p>In fact, it is hard to find any one with a complex or rare disease that has not experienced a doctor or nurse accuse them of faking pain or psychologically manifesting illness. It is so common, that it is a reflection of the culture of arrogance among health care workers, especially physicians.</p>
<p>It also explains why so many people with complex or rare diseases have medical PTSD. Few things are more traumatic than being incredibly sick, and by extension extremely vulnerable, and being accused of lying about it. This is why so many people distrust doctors. </p>
<p>Connect with Amber:</p>
<p>Amber's channel: Spincter of Oddi is Real <a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsIQulXBRpt9P7SpV1bUWXA'>Youtube</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p></p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p>

</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a child, Amber had a very rare illness that made the small blood vessels in her skin, joints, intestines, and kidneys inflamed and bleed. Amber was so ill her mother thought Amber was dying.</p>
<p>But Amber survived, got married and had children and thrived...until 3 days after having her gallbladder removed, when she experienced horrendous pain, far worse than the pain of childbirth.</p>
<p>Painkillers did little to stop the upper abdominal pain Amber was experiencing, and when her blood tests came back normal, doctors suggested Amber was faking it to get pain medication. </p>
<p>But the doctors weren’t listening to Amber’s reports that pain medications didn’t help, and sometimes made the horrific pain even worse. In spite of writhing in pain on the emergency room floor, Amber’s pain was often minimized or outright dismissed and she was labeled a drug seeker.</p>
<p>While Amber’s illness turned out to be a rare complication of gallbladder surgery, her experience of pain being dismissed, or being accused of lying, or of having psychological problems, is not rare. </p>
<p>In fact, it is hard to find any one with a complex or rare disease that has not experienced a doctor or nurse accuse them of faking pain or psychologically manifesting illness. It is so common, that it is a reflection of the culture of arrogance among health care workers, especially physicians.</p>
<p>It also explains why so many people with complex or rare diseases have medical PTSD. Few things are more traumatic than being incredibly sick, and by extension extremely vulnerable, and being accused of lying about it. This is why so many people distrust doctors. </p>
<p>Connect with Amber:</p>
<p>Amber's channel: Spincter of Oddi is Real <a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsIQulXBRpt9P7SpV1bUWXA'>Youtube</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be a podcast patron</p>
<p>Support <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Medical Error Interviews on Patreon</a> by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. </p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p></p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p><br>
<br>
</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[As a child, Amber had a very rare illness that made the small blood vessels in her skin, joints, intestines, and kidneys inflamed and bleed. Amber was so ill her mother thought Amber was dying.
But Amber survived, got married and had children and thrived...until 3 days after having her gallbladder removed, when she experienced horrendous pain, far worse than the pain of childbirth.
Painkillers did little to stop the upper abdominal pain Amber was experiencing, and when her blood tests came back normal, doctors suggested Amber was faking it to get pain medication. 
But the doctors weren’t listening to Amber’s reports that pain medications didn’t help, and sometimes made the horrific pain even worse. In spite of writhing in pain on the emergency room floor, Amber’s pain was often minimized or outright dismissed and she was labeled a drug seeker.
While Amber’s illness turned out to be a rare complication of gallbladder surgery, her experience of pain being dismissed, or being accused of lying, or of having psychological problems, is not rare. 
In fact, it is hard to find any one with a complex or rare disease that has not experienced a doctor or nurse accuse them of faking pain or psychologically manifesting illness. It is so common, that it is a reflection of the culture of arrogance among health care workers, especially physicians.
It also explains why so many people with complex or rare diseases have medical PTSD. Few things are more traumatic than being incredibly sick, and by extension extremely vulnerable, and being accused of lying about it. This is why so many people distrust doctors. 
Connect with Amber:
Amber's channel: Spincter of Oddi is Real Youtube
 
Be a podcast patron
Support Medical Error Interviews on Patreon by becoming a Patron for $2 / month for audio versions. 
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.
 
Be my Guest
I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.
If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com 

Need a Counsellor?
Like me, many of my clients at Remedies Counseling have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com
Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.
I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the first person living with HIV to compete at the triathlon world championships.
Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Counseling / Research
I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the HIV Prevention Lab at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, here and here. 
Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.
Patient Advocacy
I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit Millions Missing Canada, and on the Executive Committee of the Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network.
I am also a patient advisor for Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Adviso]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Growing up in the shadow of Cape Kennedy, Adin Burroughs had designs on becoming an astronaut. But When Adin’s body started rejecting any food he ate with cramps, fever, vomiting, diarrhea - he of course went to his doctor.  In Adin’s family, a lot of people have problems with their gall bladder, and Adin told this to his doctor. The doctor ran some tests and declared Adin’s gall bladder as well functioning.</p>
<p>But for the next few years Adin was not able to consume solid food and he lived on soup - all the while seeing numerous specialists in an effort to determine why his body was rejecting the foods he ate. </p>
<p>During the worst periods, Adin would have 27 hours of cyclical vomiting in which he wished for the sweet release of death. As if this wasn’t bad enough, Adin also has the neurological disease of MEcfs and it keeps him bedridden half the time.</p>
<p>In this interview, Adin and I also talk about the relationship between COVID and MEcfs, and how the pandemic may be the best thing to ever happen to MEcfs research funding, care and support.</p>
<p>
SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:04:30
Adin was born in Orlando, Florida - his parents were rock music promoters - but his parents divorced a couple of years after Adin was born - his mother remarried, and his step father is a college professor of psychology
0:05:30
Adin was entralled with the nearby by rocket launches and had aims to be an astronaut - but his health came crasing down in 2003 - he had 3 jobs and was on Reserve Duty in New Mexico, and flying to the East Coast to write distributed simulations
0:06:30
Adin went to the UK to present to the United Nations and then flew home, staying awake for 72 hours - when he got home, his wife was volunteering and he went to help her all day, still no sleep - was awake for 96 hours - and picked up a flu bug with others in his social circle, and half got CFS
0:07:30
Adin never recovered, he had myalgic encephalomyelitis / chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/cfs) - Adin was admitted to the hospital with 105 degree temperature - they gave him chilled IVs - Adin's job was like an air traffic controller
0:08:30
About half the people who got the flu with Adin, did not recover, a well defined cluster for studying - but Adin's doctor just shrugged when Adin didn't recover - after initially getting sick, Adin mostly recovered and went back to work - but his temperature flipping around - in the Air Force office they took a thermometer and could see his temperature cycle from 96 to 102 in about 10 minutes - they sent him home
0:09:30
Adin's wife had to come with him to meet the top brass and help explain what was going on as Adin had developed aphasia (inability to recall words / speak)
0:10:30
They discovered that Adin's body couldn't control its temperature over 75 degrees, so he had to stay in an air conditioned bubble - his wife quit her job at the University of New Mexico to shuttle Adin to doctors - they thought he had cancer, but couldn't find it - Adin suffered with tachycardia and low blood oxygen saturation, same problem Covid patients are having
0:11:30
Adin saw many specialists - Adin takes a medication to slow down his heart rate - he takes more than people with heart failure - it took about a hear to see the 6 or 7 specialists - Adin's mom was diagnsoed with MEcfs in 1992, so he knew what the symptoms looked like
0:12:30
When Adin's body temperature was so erratice, he thought he may have MEcfs, but hoped it wasn't - Dr Nancy Klimas helped Adin's mom, and then Adin
0:13:30
Adin's wife started to show ME symptoms in 2009, after the birth of their son - she had mild symptoms as first, but in the last year she's gotten sicker - Adin is bed bound about half the time, his wife is bed bound about a 1/4 of the time - she's still in the 'push - crash' phase of exerting too much and then getting sicker and unconscious for 8 - 10 hours
0:14:30
About 1.5 years ago, their 10 year old son started to show ME symptoms - its hard for a kid: he goes to the playground, but then literally falls over when he gets home and sleeps until morning
0:15:30
It is hard for adults with ME to learn to not over exert so they don't get sicker, but kids are supposed to be running around - Adin has his son use a Virtual Reality (VR) machine for tai chi, meditation, etc
0:16:30
Adin also had another medical error: in late 2000s, the ME caused him severe gut problems, he couldn't eat solid food for about a year - Adin was retired from all 3 jobs, but his employers fought over paying Adin, and it was 3 years without pay
0:17:30
So they lost their house, they lost everything - they had some volunteer lawyers help - during this time, it didn't matter what Adin ate, he'd get stomach cramps, a fever, then vomiting and diarrhea
0:18:30
Many of Adin's family has gall bladder issues, and tells his doctor this - Adin does a 'fat challenge' (eat a high fat meal) but it had no effect - after 1-2 years, Adin finally got a referral to a specialist at a hospital
0:19:30
They did a simple sonogram of his abdomen including his liver, stomach and gall bladder - they said Adin's gall bladder was normal - so Adin's GP started barium enemas for lower GI testing - Adin said its some of the worse testing he's been through
0:20:30
It was painful because they filled his GI tract and put it under pressure to see how it would react - the tech performing the procedure complained the entire time that he was working
0:21:30
Adin had a lot of testing - endoscopies, colonoscopies, biopsies, food challenges - but the symptoms were only coming intermittently, and then it would be a 27 hour cycle where he literally wished for death
0:22:30
Adin was in the military, he's been in PoW camps, he knows what pain is like - Adin has a friend who has HIV, and she says it is nothing compared to the horror of ME - but Adin's attacks were lasting 27 hours, the best the doctors could do was give him some meds to control the vomiting and nausea
0:23:30
But Adin needed to take them at double or triple the max dose - Adin was experiencing cyclical vomiting, kicked off by the gall bladder attack, in conjuction with the autonomic dysfunction caused by ME
0:24:30
The high doses of those meds were just enough to stop Adin from killing himself to escape the pain and suffering - Adin had said to his wife that he couldn't live that way - the attacks would sometimes also induce tachycardia
0:25:30
Adin had to go to the ER a few times, but they didn't know how to treat him, his heart, his vomiting - they were scared they were going to lose him - finally, Adin's doctor suggested Adin see a Mayo specialist in cyclical vomiting syndrome
0:26:30
Adin's evaluation at The Mayo was unlike anything in the regular medial system - he saw 5 specialists a day for a week
0:27:30
Mayo said that Adin's gall bladder is sludge - it is fine sometimes, but other times fills with sludge - it was easy to see on a common test
0:28:30
If Adin's doctor had of done the test, it would have cut 2 years of living hell out of Adin's life - Mayo also suggested that Adin's underlying autonomic dysfunction should be looked into, and they had him meet another Mayo specialist - but Mayo would never say anything about Adin's ME, even though he'd been diagnosed by leading doctors and had objective results
0:29:30
Instead, Mayo would only refer to it as autonomic neuropathy, either central or peripheral - or they would break it down and call it 'post viral fatigue syndrome' - Adin was able to gather from speaking to the staff off the record, that the Mayo had a policy they wouldn't see a patient who had MEcfs
0:30:30
Adin thinks Mayo had the anti-ME policy because they didn't understand it, they didn't have a black and white test for it, and the expense - most people with MEcfs are unable to work
0:31:30
A doctor from the VA (Veterans Affairs) wouldn't permit Adin to have a cardiology test because he refused to do an exercise stress test (exercise is contraindicated for ME) - a psychologist told Adin that he was medicalizing psychological issues
0:32:30
Adin would ask the doctors straight up: 'do you think I'm depressed?' - he wanted them to look him in the eye - they'd say 'no, not depressed' - Adin would ask if it could be MEcfs, and they'd say 'yes', but didn't do anything about it - patients with ME are marginalized, psychologized and traumatized - they are refused services, ridiculed, accused of lying
0:33:30
Most doctors get stuck on looking for a horse, when ME is a zebra - another analogy is 5 blind men feeling an elephant, none of them has the big picture
0:34:30
Adin hopes that an outcome of Covid is a systems engineer approach, to take a look at the whole body - it seems self evident medicine should already be doing it
0:35:30
Covid may be the best thing to happen to ME research - Covid is a systemic infection, and a sign it is like ME
0:36:30
Unfortunately, there are going to be a lot of Covid survivors who will understand what ME patients have been going through - at least now doctors are realizing that an infection can impact multiple systems - doctors just couldn't wrap their heads around that - they think polio was a one off
0:37:30
ME was initially called atypical polio - in spite of many medical discoveries, our knowledge of the human body is embryonic - they are just discovering how metabolites impact human health
0:38:30
Scott says HIV is a walk in the park, but with ME he can't even walk in the park - for Adin, his friend with both HIV and ME saying that living with ME was multiple times harder
0:39:30
She had experienced multiple trauma, but none of it was from HIV, and she was around in the 80s - she was traumatized by how the medical system treated her ME
0:40:30
Scott says that 99% of people with HIV and access to meds, are healthier than 99% of people living with ME - it was surprising for Adin to learn that living with ME was so much worse than living with ME
0:41:30
For the last few years on May 12th, ME patients globally have used their empty shoes as a symbol of the 'millions missing' from life, work, play due to ME - now COVID patients who have not recovered are also displaying their shoes
0:42:30
Scott says what would also help ME research, is if celebrities and politicians got COVID and did not recover, but develop ME - some celebrities have ME, but they hide it - Cher considers herself recovered
0:43:30
Celebrities have done the exact opposite of what they needed to do - a famous soccer player got ME, but didn't want to help the community - when Adin was volunteering with Pheonix Rising (a forum for ME patients / caregivers), he met a number of writers who did not disclose their illness because it would impact their career
0:44:30
The exception is Seabiscuit author Laura HIllebrand - but most don't 'come out' to let the public know that ME is not rare
0:45:30
There are parallels between ME and HIV in regards to internalized shame - in the early days of AIDS, the slogan was "Silence = Death" - but with ME, there is no high body count, it makes people more susceptible to death by other illnesses - there has only been one case of a death listed as due to ME
0:46:30
If Adin's mom was to die today, ME wouldn't even be mentioned on her death certificate - the medical marginalization of ME is deeply buried in institutions - for Adin and his family, the quarantine has had no impact - it is the rest of the world that is adjusting
0:47:30
But they don't have the nausea, pain and suffering that people living with ME have - humans react very differently when things happen to them personally
0:48:30
Adin deeply hopes that COVID patients recover and that we learn a lot more about how viruses interact with the genome, metabolome, mitochondria - we'll see if the opportunity is squandered or not
0:49:30
Scott wonders if his HIV meds is why he's healthier than most people with ME - a doctor said that people with HIV and meds who got COVID were not getting as sick as people without HIV (and HIV meds)
0:50:30
Adin is hopeful for remdesivir for COVID - and that the FDA will do its job
 
Connect with Adin: https://facebook.com/adindb
 
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<p></p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up in the shadow of Cape Kennedy, Adin Burroughs had designs on becoming an astronaut. But When Adin’s body started rejecting any food he ate with cramps, fever, vomiting, diarrhea - he of course went to his doctor.  In Adin’s family, a lot of people have problems with their gall bladder, and Adin told this to his doctor. The doctor ran some tests and declared Adin’s gall bladder as well functioning.</p>
<p>But for the next few years Adin was not able to consume solid food and he lived on soup - all the while seeing numerous specialists in an effort to determine why his body was rejecting the foods he ate. </p>
<p>During the worst periods, Adin would have 27 hours of cyclical vomiting in which he wished for the sweet release of death. As if this wasn’t bad enough, Adin also has the neurological disease of MEcfs and it keeps him bedridden half the time.</p>
<p>In this interview, Adin and I also talk about the relationship between COVID and MEcfs, and how the pandemic may be the best thing to ever happen to MEcfs research funding, care and support.</p>
<p><br>
SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:04:30
Adin was born in Orlando, Florida - his parents were rock music promoters - but his parents divorced a couple of years after Adin was born - his mother remarried, and his step father is a college professor of psychology
0:05:30
Adin was entralled with the nearby by rocket launches and had aims to be an astronaut - but his health came crasing down in 2003 - he had 3 jobs and was on Reserve Duty in New Mexico, and flying to the East Coast to write distributed simulations
0:06:30
Adin went to the UK to present to the United Nations and then flew home, staying awake for 72 hours - when he got home, his wife was volunteering and he went to help her all day, still no sleep - was awake for 96 hours - and picked up a flu bug with others in his social circle, and half got CFS
0:07:30
Adin never recovered, he had myalgic encephalomyelitis / chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/cfs) - Adin was admitted to the hospital with 105 degree temperature - they gave him chilled IVs - Adin's job was like an air traffic controller
0:08:30
About half the people who got the flu with Adin, did not recover, a well defined cluster for studying - but Adin's doctor just shrugged when Adin didn't recover - after initially getting sick, Adin mostly recovered and went back to work - but his temperature flipping around - in the Air Force office they took a thermometer and could see his temperature cycle from 96 to 102 in about 10 minutes - they sent him home
0:09:30
Adin's wife had to come with him to meet the top brass and help explain what was going on as Adin had developed aphasia (inability to recall words / speak)
0:10:30
They discovered that Adin's body couldn't control its temperature over 75 degrees, so he had to stay in an air conditioned bubble - his wife quit her job at the University of New Mexico to shuttle Adin to doctors - they thought he had cancer, but couldn't find it - Adin suffered with tachycardia and low blood oxygen saturation, same problem Covid patients are having
0:11:30
Adin saw many specialists - Adin takes a medication to slow down his heart rate - he takes more than people with heart failure - it took about a hear to see the 6 or 7 specialists - Adin's mom was diagnsoed with MEcfs in 1992, so he knew what the symptoms looked like
0:12:30
When Adin's body temperature was so erratice, he thought he may have MEcfs, but hoped it wasn't - Dr Nancy Klimas helped Adin's mom, and then Adin
0:13:30
Adin's wife started to show ME symptoms in 2009, after the birth of their son - she had mild symptoms as first, but in the last year she's gotten sicker - Adin is bed bound about half the time, his wife is bed bound about a 1/4 of the time - she's still in the 'push - crash' phase of exerting too much and then getting sicker and unconscious for 8 - 10 hours
0:14:30
About 1.5 years ago, their 10 year old son started to show ME symptoms - its hard for a kid: he goes to the playground, but then literally falls over when he gets home and sleeps until morning
0:15:30
It is hard for adults with ME to learn to not over exert so they don't get sicker, but kids are supposed to be running around - Adin has his son use a Virtual Reality (VR) machine for tai chi, meditation, etc
0:16:30
Adin also had another medical error: in late 2000s, the ME caused him severe gut problems, he couldn't eat solid food for about a year - Adin was retired from all 3 jobs, but his employers fought over paying Adin, and it was 3 years without pay
0:17:30
So they lost their house, they lost everything - they had some volunteer lawyers help - during this time, it didn't matter what Adin ate, he'd get stomach cramps, a fever, then vomiting and diarrhea
0:18:30
Many of Adin's family has gall bladder issues, and tells his doctor this - Adin does a 'fat challenge' (eat a high fat meal) but it had no effect - after 1-2 years, Adin finally got a referral to a specialist at a hospital
0:19:30
They did a simple sonogram of his abdomen including his liver, stomach and gall bladder - they said Adin's gall bladder was normal - so Adin's GP started barium enemas for lower GI testing - Adin said its some of the worse testing he's been through
0:20:30
It was painful because they filled his GI tract and put it under pressure to see how it would react - the tech performing the procedure complained the entire time that he was working
0:21:30
Adin had a lot of testing - endoscopies, colonoscopies, biopsies, food challenges - but the symptoms were only coming intermittently, and then it would be a 27 hour cycle where he literally wished for death
0:22:30
Adin was in the military, he's been in PoW camps, he knows what pain is like - Adin has a friend who has HIV, and she says it is nothing compared to the horror of ME - but Adin's attacks were lasting 27 hours, the best the doctors could do was give him some meds to control the vomiting and nausea
0:23:30
But Adin needed to take them at double or triple the max dose - Adin was experiencing cyclical vomiting, kicked off by the gall bladder attack, in conjuction with the autonomic dysfunction caused by ME
0:24:30
The high doses of those meds were just enough to stop Adin from killing himself to escape the pain and suffering - Adin had said to his wife that he couldn't live that way - the attacks would sometimes also induce tachycardia
0:25:30
Adin had to go to the ER a few times, but they didn't know how to treat him, his heart, his vomiting - they were scared they were going to lose him - finally, Adin's doctor suggested Adin see a Mayo specialist in cyclical vomiting syndrome
0:26:30
Adin's evaluation at The Mayo was unlike anything in the regular medial system - he saw 5 specialists a day for a week
0:27:30
Mayo said that Adin's gall bladder is sludge - it is fine sometimes, but other times fills with sludge - it was easy to see on a common test
0:28:30
If Adin's doctor had of done the test, it would have cut 2 years of living hell out of Adin's life - Mayo also suggested that Adin's underlying autonomic dysfunction should be looked into, and they had him meet another Mayo specialist - but Mayo would never say anything about Adin's ME, even though he'd been diagnosed by leading doctors and had objective results
0:29:30
Instead, Mayo would only refer to it as autonomic neuropathy, either central or peripheral - or they would break it down and call it 'post viral fatigue syndrome' - Adin was able to gather from speaking to the staff off the record, that the Mayo had a policy they wouldn't see a patient who had MEcfs
0:30:30
Adin thinks Mayo had the anti-ME policy because they didn't understand it, they didn't have a black and white test for it, and the expense - most people with MEcfs are unable to work
0:31:30
A doctor from the VA (Veterans Affairs) wouldn't permit Adin to have a cardiology test because he refused to do an exercise stress test (exercise is contraindicated for ME) - a psychologist told Adin that he was medicalizing psychological issues
0:32:30
Adin would ask the doctors straight up: 'do you think I'm depressed?' - he wanted them to look him in the eye - they'd say 'no, not depressed' - Adin would ask if it could be MEcfs, and they'd say 'yes', but didn't do anything about it - patients with ME are marginalized, psychologized and traumatized - they are refused services, ridiculed, accused of lying
0:33:30
Most doctors get stuck on looking for a horse, when ME is a zebra - another analogy is 5 blind men feeling an elephant, none of them has the big picture
0:34:30
Adin hopes that an outcome of Covid is a systems engineer approach, to take a look at the whole body - it seems self evident medicine should already be doing it
0:35:30
Covid may be the best thing to happen to ME research - Covid is a systemic infection, and a sign it is like ME
0:36:30
Unfortunately, there are going to be a lot of Covid survivors who will understand what ME patients have been going through - at least now doctors are realizing that an infection can impact multiple systems - doctors just couldn't wrap their heads around that - they think polio was a one off
0:37:30
ME was initially called atypical polio - in spite of many medical discoveries, our knowledge of the human body is embryonic - they are just discovering how metabolites impact human health
0:38:30
Scott says HIV is a walk in the park, but with ME he can't even walk in the park - for Adin, his friend with both HIV and ME saying that living with ME was multiple times harder
0:39:30
She had experienced multiple trauma, but none of it was from HIV, and she was around in the 80s - she was traumatized by how the medical system treated her ME
0:40:30
Scott says that 99% of people with HIV and access to meds, are healthier than 99% of people living with ME - it was surprising for Adin to learn that living with ME was so much worse than living with ME
0:41:30
For the last few years on May 12th, ME patients globally have used their empty shoes as a symbol of the 'millions missing' from life, work, play due to ME - now COVID patients who have not recovered are also displaying their shoes
0:42:30
Scott says what would also help ME research, is if celebrities and politicians got COVID and did not recover, but develop ME - some celebrities have ME, but they hide it - Cher considers herself recovered
0:43:30
Celebrities have done the exact opposite of what they needed to do - a famous soccer player got ME, but didn't want to help the community - when Adin was volunteering with Pheonix Rising (a forum for ME patients / caregivers), he met a number of writers who did not disclose their illness because it would impact their career
0:44:30
The exception is Seabiscuit author Laura HIllebrand - but most don't 'come out' to let the public know that ME is not rare
0:45:30
There are parallels between ME and HIV in regards to internalized shame - in the early days of AIDS, the slogan was "Silence = Death" - but with ME, there is no high body count, it makes people more susceptible to death by other illnesses - there has only been one case of a death listed as due to ME
0:46:30
If Adin's mom was to die today, ME wouldn't even be mentioned on her death certificate - the medical marginalization of ME is deeply buried in institutions - for Adin and his family, the quarantine has had no impact - it is the rest of the world that is adjusting
0:47:30
But they don't have the nausea, pain and suffering that people living with ME have - humans react very differently when things happen to them personally
0:48:30
Adin deeply hopes that COVID patients recover and that we learn a lot more about how viruses interact with the genome, metabolome, mitochondria - we'll see if the opportunity is squandered or not
0:49:30
Scott wonders if his HIV meds is why he's healthier than most people with ME - a doctor said that people with HIV and meds who got COVID were not getting as sick as people without HIV (and HIV meds)
0:50:30
Adin is hopeful for remdesivir for COVID - and that the FDA will do its job
 
Connect with Adin: https://facebook.com/adindb
 
<a href='https://twitter.com/adin'>https://twitter.com/adin</a>
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<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p></p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Growing up in the shadow of Cape Kennedy, Adin Burroughs had designs on becoming an astronaut. But When Adin’s body started rejecting any food he ate with cramps, fever, vomiting, diarrhea - he of course went to his doctor.  In Adin’s family, a lot of people have problems with their gall bladder, and Adin told this to his doctor. The doctor ran some tests and declared Adin’s gall bladder as well functioning.
But for the next few years Adin was not able to consume solid food and he lived on soup - all the while seeing numerous specialists in an effort to determine why his body was rejecting the foods he ate. 
During the worst periods, Adin would have 27 hours of cyclical vomiting in which he wished for the sweet release of death. As if this wasn’t bad enough, Adin also has the neurological disease of MEcfs and it keeps him bedridden half the time.
In this interview, Adin and I also talk about the relationship between COVID and MEcfs, and how the pandemic may be the best thing to ever happen to MEcfs research funding, care and support.
SHOW NOTES:
0:04:30
Adin was born in Orlando, Florida - his parents were rock music promoters - but his parents divorced a couple of years after Adin was born - his mother remarried, and his step father is a college professor of psychology
0:05:30
Adin was entralled with the nearby by rocket launches and had aims to be an astronaut - but his health came crasing down in 2003 - he had 3 jobs and was on Reserve Duty in New Mexico, and flying to the East Coast to write distributed simulations
0:06:30
Adin went to the UK to present to the United Nations and then flew home, staying awake for 72 hours - when he got home, his wife was volunteering and he went to help her all day, still no sleep - was awake for 96 hours - and picked up a flu bug with others in his social circle, and half got CFS
0:07:30
Adin never recovered, he had myalgic encephalomyelitis / chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/cfs) - Adin was admitted to the hospital with 105 degree temperature - they gave him chilled IVs - Adin's job was like an air traffic controller
0:08:30
About half the people who got the flu with Adin, did not recover, a well defined cluster for studying - but Adin's doctor just shrugged when Adin didn't recover - after initially getting sick, Adin mostly recovered and went back to work - but his temperature flipping around - in the Air Force office they took a thermometer and could see his temperature cycle from 96 to 102 in about 10 minutes - they sent him home
0:09:30
Adin's wife had to come with him to meet the top brass and help explain what was going on as Adin had developed aphasia (inability to recall words / speak)
0:10:30
They discovered that Adin's body couldn't control its temperature over 75 degrees, so he had to stay in an air conditioned bubble - his wife quit her job at the University of New Mexico to shuttle Adin to doctors - they thought he had cancer, but couldn't find it - Adin suffered with tachycardia and low blood oxygen saturation, same problem Covid patients are having
0:11:30
Adin saw many specialists - Adin takes a medication to slow down his heart rate - he takes more than people with heart failure - it took about a hear to see the 6 or 7 specialists - Adin's mom was diagnsoed with MEcfs in 1992, so he knew what the symptoms looked like
0:12:30
When Adin's body temperature was so erratice, he thought he may have MEcfs, but hoped it wasn't - Dr Nancy Klimas helped Adin's mom, and then Adin
0:13:30
Adin's wife started to show ME symptoms in 2009, after the birth of their son - she had mild symptoms as first, but in the last year she's gotten sicker - Adin is bed bound about half the time, his wife is bed bound about a 1/4 of the time - she's still in the 'push - crash' phase of exerting too much and then getting sicker and unconscious for 8 - 10 hours
0:14:30
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        <title>Dr Jill Murphy: Physician Heal Thy Self</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Evidently having a doctorate in physical therapy and working in the health care field does not protect you from medical incompetence, arrogance and errors.</p>
<p>When Dr Jill Murphy went to the ER with potential stroke symptoms, the staff called the neurologist to examine Jill. But he refused, so the staff sent Jill away without a diagnosis, but with instructions to buy some baby aspirin.</p>
<p>This was the first in countless medical encounters where Jill was disbelieved, dismissed or denigrated. Meanwhile, she continued to have countless mini strokes. Yet doctor after doctor failed Jill. They gave her a ‘conversion disorder’ diagnosis, saying her symptoms were all in her head, telling her husband that she must have been sexually abused as a child.</p>
<p>But Jill is a smart and determined person, and her persistence paid off when she finally - years later - got a proper diagnosis that required a heart ablation and pacemaker and life-long medication. </p>
<p>Now Jill is using that same determination - and lessons learned from being a disbelieved patient - to raise awareness and education among the public and health care workers and will soon be publishing her first book, Physician Heal Thy Self.</p>
<p>Connect with Jill:</p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/yAhbsT4uWX?amp=1'>https://facebook.com/DrJillMurphy/</a></p>
<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/motionworkspt?lang=en'>@MotionWorksPT</a></p>
<p>
SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:04:00
Jill grew up on a dairy farm in north east Wisconsin, so a big Packer fan - youngest of 3, and we were expected to work - we're German, so lots of work and lots of cleaning - lots of work on the farm, no matter how old you were - looking back it was great, I learned how to work, but as a child I would have rather been at the pool with friends
0:05:00
Jill went to Concordia University, north of Milwaukee, for Athletic Training and Sports Medicine - and Jill also got her Masters in Physical Therapy there - her father was supportive of academic and athletic pursuits
0:06:00
Jill has an amazing career in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and completed her Doctorate in Physical Therapy (PT), it was a lot of work but Jill loved learning - Jill met and married her husband, bought a house, had a first child
0:07:00
Jill had no health issues until she had started her own PT clinic, and it creeped up on her during her 3rd pregnancy - in her 20th week she had heart arrythmia and ended up in the hospital - but the cardiologist said Jill's heart rate was not 100, said she was not a cardiac case and walked out - thankfully her OB (obstetrician doctor) put Jill on medication - a beta blocker - to control her rapid heart beat - but she never got a diagnosis
0:08:00
Jill was still able to work and was teaching a 'build a better body' class - as she got more pregnant, the more short of breath she got and couldn't speak to explain the drills while doing them, so she had to stop that class - the doctor increased the dose over the summer because of the warmer weather and the increase in tachycardia Jill experienced
0:09:00
Jill was an athlete, a marathoner, active her whole life, os her resting heart rate was about 60 - but now she was getting short of breath and rapid heart rate with little exertion
0:10:00
Jill was assured that whatever was going on with her heart rate was due to her pregnancy, and once she had the baby, Jill's heart problem would go away and slowly wean off the medicine - after a few months Jill tried to wean off the medicine, but it messed with her blood pressure - Jill saw a nurse practitioner who was helpful for managing medicine, but Jill still didn't have a diagnosis
0:11:00
That was winter 2014 - Jill thought she'd have to be on the medication for the rest of her life, she couldn't workout - and she kind of gave up when the doctors weren't concerned
0:12:00
So Jill went to the nearby Mayo Clinic to see a cardiologist, who ran a bunch of tests
0:13:00
During the echo cardiogram the staff kind of rushed in and asked if Jill was an athlete - she didn't know it at the time, but she had some enlarged areas of her heart - they didn't seem worried, but a couple of weeks later they gave her a clean bill of health - that was summer 2014
0:14:00
Jill's primary physician moved, so she had to find a new GP - Jill remembers asking the new GP if there was a better solution for her heart problem so she could live a normal life, and the doctor's response was 'if you keep mentioning this heart problem, I'm going to diagnose you with anxiety'
0:15:00
A couple of weeks later Jill was watching tv and had her first transit ischemic attack (TIA), in the past called a mini-stroke, now known as a warning sign of stroke because the symptoms go away within 24 hours - as Jill watched tv her left arm and leg felt weird and heavy, she had trouble getting up from the couch and had to roll off it
0:16:00
Being a PT, she was trying to figure out what was wrong, she looked in a mirror and her face looked fine - Jill kind of knew what it was, but how could she go to the ER when the Mayo had just given her a clean bill of health, and her GP thinks she's anxious, so Jill went to bed - the symptoms were gone the next morning - she tried to read about possible treatments
0:17:00
Her 6 year old wanted to run the local 5k, so Jill ran it with her and she didn't want to quit and hamper her daughter's experience - they finished and Jill was so tired she didn't know how she could drive home safely
0:18:00
On New Year's Eve 2014, Jill had a busy day at her clinic then went to her dentist - the dentist injected Jill's gums with a pain killer and her heart started beating really fast, but it calmed down in a few minutes
0:19:00
That night after dinner Jill was very tired and went and sat down, but was too tired to read, and the numbness in her left arm, leg, face was worse
0:20:00
Jill was worried she was going to drop her 1 year old because she was so weak and tired - Jill tried somethings to bring back the feeling in her arm, leg and face - it was far worse than in the summer
0:21:00
Jill's husband took her to the ER, with 3 kids in tow - they identified right away as a code stroke, so they did a complete work up - the doctor congratulated Jill on 'selecting' their hospital to come to, as they were a certified stroke center - they did CT and MRI and other tests, but did not tell Jill what was wrong
0:22:00
Something strange also happened that night, only later would Jill figure out it was unilateral neglect, it means you don't want to attend to one side of your body - Jill spent the evening looking to her right side in the room, no desire to look left - a nurse helped Jill into a wheelchair because she couldn't walk - finally at midnight the ER doctor comes back
0:23:00
He tells Jill she can go home, but to stop at a drug store and buy some baby aspirin and take 4 of them and the symptoms will go away in 24 hours - Jill asked what was wrong, her left side was weak, she couldn't walk, but he just walked out without answering - so Jill asked the nurse what was wrong with Jill's body, but the nurse said 'we don't have any beds any way' - Jill wondered why they couldn't transfer her to another hospital, but she trusted them
0:24:00
But the symptoms didn't go away in 24 hours, Jill is still weak on her left side - Jill used to run marathons, but now after 1/4 mile her left side gets weak from neural fatigue and she has no sense of where it is in space, so she has to look where she puts her foot
0:25:00
So January 2015 was horrible - her ER form said she had a TIA (trans ischemic attack) and was to see a neurologist - 2 days later she went to see the doctor - Jill was limping as she entered the doctor's office
0:26:00
The doctor snarkily said 'why are you walking like that?' - when Jill said the notes later, the doctor reported that Jill was fine - Jill realized that reality and what doctors put in there notes were 2 different things - they wouldn't record anything that didn't fit their diagnosis - a couple of days later, Jill saw her 'headache' doctor, also a neurologist - he had known Jill for years, so knew she wasn't making up her symptoms, so he ran a bunch of tests
0:27:00
Jill had told all the previous doctors about her heart racing problems, but none of them paid any heed - Jill had a headache all of January, had a few more TIAs and a huge reaction to a medication where her throat almost closed no one could figure out - Jill couldn't really work during January
0:28:00
Jill didn't have disability insurance, so needed to get back to her business - she also kept trying to see other doctors but was given a 'conversion disorder' diagnosis - Jill had been given Topomax medication for blood pressure, but started researching its side effects
0:29:00
Jill started to have trouble reading, comprehending, thinking - she burst into tears in a McDonald's drive thru when she couldn't figure out how to order her daughter a happy meal - it kept getting worse over the next few days, she had trouble eating and chewing food - she told a doctor that her throat wasn't working, but they didn't care
0:30:00
The ER refused to give Jill a requisition to see a speech therapist in spite of their obviously being something wrong with her speech - they told her it wasn't a stroke, and told her husband it was probably because she was sexually abused as a child - Jill knew that was laughable
0:31:00
Because she couldn't swallow, she had stopped taking the topomax medicine, and her throat started to release, and she realized it was the medication causing the throat problem - but it took her about 6 months to get the conversion disorder diagnosis removed from her medical record - 'conversion disorder' is a term to describe psychosomatic, 'all in your head'
0:32:00
Jill didn't buy into that - when she stopped the topomax the symptoms of not being able to eat or swallow stopped - Jill continued to try to work, but her left side weakness tired her out quickly and she couldn't support her body without support for very long - she did more research about her heart arrythmia
0:33:00
Jill decided to drive 7 hours to a conference, in spite of her sketchy health and heart - but before she left she saw a electrophysiologist heart specialist and was fitted for a Holter monitor to monitor her heart and said Jill may have intermittent tachycardia, and off she drove
0:34:00
Over the next few months Jill gradually increased her workload and then saw the electrophysiologist again for the Holter results - it showed Jill's heart would go faster for no reason - but when Jill tried to make a follow up appointment, the doctor said she was fine and refused to see her
0:35:00
Jill continued to work on PT exercises, and started a walking program - she could still only walk about 1/4 mile before her foot started flapping - her husband took on a lot of household chores while Jill focused on recovering and keeping her business going
0:36:00
Jill saw some other neurologists, but to no avail in getting a diagnosis - she went to Mayo again, but it didn't go well, it was a poor clinical exam - then early May was a nice sunny day
0:37:00
and Jill thought 'maybe they're right, maybe its all in my head, if I pretend it doesn't exist, I can do my 2 mile run'
0:38:00
Jill made it about 1/4 mile before her left foot became fatigued, but she continued by walking - she got worse, the numbness was spreading up her left leg and slowly limped back home
0:39:00
Jill concluded that the stroke stuff wasn't 'in her head' after all - Jill was also having visual problems on her left side, running into things, it was part of the unilateral neglect - Jill went to visual therapy, but it made her nauseous sick every time
0:40:00
All the allied health professional could see Jill's deficits, but the doctors couldn't - over time Jill built up some endurance - but the day after she tried to run, her ankle hurt a lot and she ended up needing ankle surgery
0:41:00
Jill looked into the intermittent sinus tachycardia and found other tests she should have - she finally found a doctor in Iowa who put Jill on aberdeen medication, popular in Europe, recently approved in the US
0:42:00
It would reduce heart rate, without reducing blood pressure, and Jill had normal blood pressure - Jill hoped that controlling her heart rate would prevent anymore TIAs or strokes - it seemed to help, but was super expensive, 100s of dollars a month, so she was ordering it online, but it would take weeks for delivery - Jill tried to cut her dose until the meds arrived so she didn't have to pay $60 for 1 pill locally
0:43:00
And Jill had another TIA that day, so she realized her arrythmia and stroke were related - but it took forever for any physicians to recognize that - Jill saw another specialist, a breath of fresh air - he implanted a heart rhythm monitor
0:44:00
Jill was still having TIAs, still limping - the heart monitor was catching Jill's heart arrythmias - but Jill was still having them and had maxed out the dose on the medication
0:45:00
It took a couple of years for Jill to learn that a heart ablation procedure could fix the arrythmia - ablation is burning the part of the heart that is causing the arrythmia - Jill had to go through 7 doctors to get the procedure because inappropriate sinus tachycardia is the like the fibromyalgia of pain, no doctors want to see you
0:46:00
Jill had the ablation, but needed a pacemaker a week later - the ablation procedure runs a tube up the femeral vein to the heart, use their software to determine the origination of the arrythmia, and then burn out that area
0:47:00
Jill went into A-Fib during the procedure and they had to shock her to get heart beat back to normal - they found several areas on her heart for ablation treatment - Jill also had a spot on the outside of her heart that was ablated
0:48:00
Jill was hoping the ablations and pacemaker would stop the strokes, but they didn't - Jill continued to have TIAs, some scarier than others, trips to the ER
0:49:00
Jill continued to research and seek out specialists - she learned that people can have strokes before their first A-Fib (Atrial Fibrillation) - so still a grey and growing area of research
0:50:00
Jill went back to the original ER doctor - Jill was worried that others would receive the same poor and mistreatment - Jill should have been given TPA, a blood thinner that would have cleared out any possible clots - if she had been given TPA, Jill would be back running and leading a normal life - so Jill wrote a lot of letters to the hospital, but only their attorneys replied - she tried writing to their stroke committee, but no one responded
0:51:00
When you're dealing with a stroke the health system won't acknowledge, it is super hard mentally - she also didn't want people in her home town to know she was struggling because it would affect her business - Jill was trying to figure out what happened that night in the ER, why did they send her home?
0:52:00
Jill later learned they had paged the neurologist, but the neurologist decided not to come in - but the ER doctor had a good reputation, and Jill tried to figure out how this happened under his watch - so a few years later when Jill was in the ER again, this doctor is trying to figure out why Jill still has symptoms from a stroke - when she told him it was his mistake, he felt very bad and had her transferred to a better hospital by ambulance to get a thorough stroke work up
0:53:00
Jill says it was nice to see that he really cared, and that it wasn't his fault, that he had believed Jill - could he have pushed harder for TPA medication, or a transfer to another hospital, or make the neurologist come in - eventually Jill saw a cardiologist who put her on eloquist (an anticoagulant), and that with a baby aspirin has controlled her arrythmia
0:54:00
3 things are probably contributing to Jill's strokes: thick blood, a small artery, and heart arrythmia, so its not a black and white diagnosis - this spring Jill has had some right side TIAs, and now the doctors acknowledge that 5 years ago she did have a stroke
0:55:00
Jill's life before was having a TIA every other week and trying to decide 'how bad was it?' - it was not a good existence - but now she doesn't have those symptoms, her arrythmia is better, she's had some complications from the pace maker surgery - Jill has a new lease on life
0:56:00
Jill is back working - but she still has fatigue issues with her left side - she still has some vision issues which cause nausea, so she takes a medication for that - but can still only walk about 1/4 mile - Jill had to have a 2nd ankle operation
0:57:00
Jill has to use a motorized scooter for any activity that requires a lot of walking - she can't do prolonged standing or walking - its hard for a former marathoner to have to use a scooter
0:58:00
Jill says she's grateful for what she does have, it could be far worse - Jill has had to accept what happened in the ER years ago - she's learned you can't trust blindly, and that's scary, and she's in medicine
0:59:00
Jill says to push for answers and treatment - and to advocate for yourself - if she didn't advocate for herself, she'd be on disability or dead given some of the complications she's had - Jill has written a book about her experiences navigating the health care system, sharing tips and tools
1:00:00
Jill covers when she didn't get care, or proper care, or the best care, things that were missed - she's tried to go back and correct things, but you can't correct everything - Jill's attitude is to try to correct the things she can - she doesn't want to dwell on the things she doesn't have, but focus on being grateful for what she does have - and to help so people don't have her experience, especially young people with strokes - the highest growing cohort for stroke and most likely to be missed in post partum women
1:01:00
Jill is also working with cardiologists to recognize that it is not only stroke, but tachycardia to be looking for - so Jill is trying to bring something good out of something negative, making meaning out of her experiences
1:02:00
Jill has her 1st book manuscript finished, tentatively titled "Physician Heal Thy Self" - her 2nd book just needs 1 more chapter to be written - connect with Jill at <a href='http://drjillmurphy.com/'>DrJillMurphy.com</a>
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<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidently having a doctorate in physical therapy and working in the health care field does not protect you from medical incompetence, arrogance and errors.</p>
<p>When Dr Jill Murphy went to the ER with potential stroke symptoms, the staff called the neurologist to examine Jill. But he refused, so the staff sent Jill away without a diagnosis, but with instructions to buy some baby aspirin.</p>
<p>This was the first in countless medical encounters where Jill was disbelieved, dismissed or denigrated. Meanwhile, she continued to have countless mini strokes. Yet doctor after doctor failed Jill. They gave her a ‘conversion disorder’ diagnosis, saying her symptoms were all in her head, telling her husband that she must have been sexually abused as a child.</p>
<p>But Jill is a smart and determined person, and her persistence paid off when she finally - years later - got a proper diagnosis that required a heart ablation and pacemaker and life-long medication. </p>
<p>Now Jill is using that same determination - and lessons learned from being a disbelieved patient - to raise awareness and education among the public and health care workers and will soon be publishing her first book, Physician Heal Thy Self.</p>
<p>Connect with Jill:</p>
<p><a href='https://t.co/yAhbsT4uWX?amp=1'>https://facebook.com/DrJillMurphy/</a></p>
<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/motionworkspt?lang=en'>@MotionWorksPT</a></p>
<p><br>
SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:04:00
Jill grew up on a dairy farm in north east Wisconsin, so a big Packer fan - youngest of 3, and we were expected to work - we're German, so lots of work and lots of cleaning - lots of work on the farm, no matter how old you were - looking back it was great, I learned how to work, but as a child I would have rather been at the pool with friends
0:05:00
Jill went to Concordia University, north of Milwaukee, for Athletic Training and Sports Medicine - and Jill also got her Masters in Physical Therapy there - her father was supportive of academic and athletic pursuits
0:06:00
Jill has an amazing career in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and completed her Doctorate in Physical Therapy (PT), it was a lot of work but Jill loved learning - Jill met and married her husband, bought a house, had a first child
0:07:00
Jill had no health issues until she had started her own PT clinic, and it creeped up on her during her 3rd pregnancy - in her 20th week she had heart arrythmia and ended up in the hospital - but the cardiologist said Jill's heart rate was not 100, said she was not a cardiac case and walked out - thankfully her OB (obstetrician doctor) put Jill on medication - a beta blocker - to control her rapid heart beat - but she never got a diagnosis
0:08:00
Jill was still able to work and was teaching a 'build a better body' class - as she got more pregnant, the more short of breath she got and couldn't speak to explain the drills while doing them, so she had to stop that class - the doctor increased the dose over the summer because of the warmer weather and the increase in tachycardia Jill experienced
0:09:00
Jill was an athlete, a marathoner, active her whole life, os her resting heart rate was about 60 - but now she was getting short of breath and rapid heart rate with little exertion
0:10:00
Jill was assured that whatever was going on with her heart rate was due to her pregnancy, and once she had the baby, Jill's heart problem would go away and slowly wean off the medicine - after a few months Jill tried to wean off the medicine, but it messed with her blood pressure - Jill saw a nurse practitioner who was helpful for managing medicine, but Jill still didn't have a diagnosis
0:11:00
That was winter 2014 - Jill thought she'd have to be on the medication for the rest of her life, she couldn't workout - and she kind of gave up when the doctors weren't concerned
0:12:00
So Jill went to the nearby Mayo Clinic to see a cardiologist, who ran a bunch of tests
0:13:00
During the echo cardiogram the staff kind of rushed in and asked if Jill was an athlete - she didn't know it at the time, but she had some enlarged areas of her heart - they didn't seem worried, but a couple of weeks later they gave her a clean bill of health - that was summer 2014
0:14:00
Jill's primary physician moved, so she had to find a new GP - Jill remembers asking the new GP if there was a better solution for her heart problem so she could live a normal life, and the doctor's response was 'if you keep mentioning this heart problem, I'm going to diagnose you with anxiety'
0:15:00
A couple of weeks later Jill was watching tv and had her first transit ischemic attack (TIA), in the past called a mini-stroke, now known as a warning sign of stroke because the symptoms go away within 24 hours - as Jill watched tv her left arm and leg felt weird and heavy, she had trouble getting up from the couch and had to roll off it
0:16:00
Being a PT, she was trying to figure out what was wrong, she looked in a mirror and her face looked fine - Jill kind of knew what it was, but how could she go to the ER when the Mayo had just given her a clean bill of health, and her GP thinks she's anxious, so Jill went to bed - the symptoms were gone the next morning - she tried to read about possible treatments
0:17:00
Her 6 year old wanted to run the local 5k, so Jill ran it with her and she didn't want to quit and hamper her daughter's experience - they finished and Jill was so tired she didn't know how she could drive home safely
0:18:00
On New Year's Eve 2014, Jill had a busy day at her clinic then went to her dentist - the dentist injected Jill's gums with a pain killer and her heart started beating really fast, but it calmed down in a few minutes
0:19:00
That night after dinner Jill was very tired and went and sat down, but was too tired to read, and the numbness in her left arm, leg, face was worse
0:20:00
Jill was worried she was going to drop her 1 year old because she was so weak and tired - Jill tried somethings to bring back the feeling in her arm, leg and face - it was far worse than in the summer
0:21:00
Jill's husband took her to the ER, with 3 kids in tow - they identified right away as a code stroke, so they did a complete work up - the doctor congratulated Jill on 'selecting' their hospital to come to, as they were a certified stroke center - they did CT and MRI and other tests, but did not tell Jill what was wrong
0:22:00
Something strange also happened that night, only later would Jill figure out it was unilateral neglect, it means you don't want to attend to one side of your body - Jill spent the evening looking to her right side in the room, no desire to look left - a nurse helped Jill into a wheelchair because she couldn't walk - finally at midnight the ER doctor comes back
0:23:00
He tells Jill she can go home, but to stop at a drug store and buy some baby aspirin and take 4 of them and the symptoms will go away in 24 hours - Jill asked what was wrong, her left side was weak, she couldn't walk, but he just walked out without answering - so Jill asked the nurse what was wrong with Jill's body, but the nurse said 'we don't have any beds any way' - Jill wondered why they couldn't transfer her to another hospital, but she trusted them
0:24:00
But the symptoms didn't go away in 24 hours, Jill is still weak on her left side - Jill used to run marathons, but now after 1/4 mile her left side gets weak from neural fatigue and she has no sense of where it is in space, so she has to look where she puts her foot
0:25:00
So January 2015 was horrible - her ER form said she had a TIA (trans ischemic attack) and was to see a neurologist - 2 days later she went to see the doctor - Jill was limping as she entered the doctor's office
0:26:00
The doctor snarkily said 'why are you walking like that?' - when Jill said the notes later, the doctor reported that Jill was fine - Jill realized that reality and what doctors put in there notes were 2 different things - they wouldn't record anything that didn't fit their diagnosis - a couple of days later, Jill saw her 'headache' doctor, also a neurologist - he had known Jill for years, so knew she wasn't making up her symptoms, so he ran a bunch of tests
0:27:00
Jill had told all the previous doctors about her heart racing problems, but none of them paid any heed - Jill had a headache all of January, had a few more TIAs and a huge reaction to a medication where her throat almost closed no one could figure out - Jill couldn't really work during January
0:28:00
Jill didn't have disability insurance, so needed to get back to her business - she also kept trying to see other doctors but was given a 'conversion disorder' diagnosis - Jill had been given Topomax medication for blood pressure, but started researching its side effects
0:29:00
Jill started to have trouble reading, comprehending, thinking - she burst into tears in a McDonald's drive thru when she couldn't figure out how to order her daughter a happy meal - it kept getting worse over the next few days, she had trouble eating and chewing food - she told a doctor that her throat wasn't working, but they didn't care
0:30:00
The ER refused to give Jill a requisition to see a speech therapist in spite of their obviously being something wrong with her speech - they told her it wasn't a stroke, and told her husband it was probably because she was sexually abused as a child - Jill knew that was laughable
0:31:00
Because she couldn't swallow, she had stopped taking the topomax medicine, and her throat started to release, and she realized it was the medication causing the throat problem - but it took her about 6 months to get the conversion disorder diagnosis removed from her medical record - 'conversion disorder' is a term to describe psychosomatic, 'all in your head'
0:32:00
Jill didn't buy into that - when she stopped the topomax the symptoms of not being able to eat or swallow stopped - Jill continued to try to work, but her left side weakness tired her out quickly and she couldn't support her body without support for very long - she did more research about her heart arrythmia
0:33:00
Jill decided to drive 7 hours to a conference, in spite of her sketchy health and heart - but before she left she saw a electrophysiologist heart specialist and was fitted for a Holter monitor to monitor her heart and said Jill may have intermittent tachycardia, and off she drove
0:34:00
Over the next few months Jill gradually increased her workload and then saw the electrophysiologist again for the Holter results - it showed Jill's heart would go faster for no reason - but when Jill tried to make a follow up appointment, the doctor said she was fine and refused to see her
0:35:00
Jill continued to work on PT exercises, and started a walking program - she could still only walk about 1/4 mile before her foot started flapping - her husband took on a lot of household chores while Jill focused on recovering and keeping her business going
0:36:00
Jill saw some other neurologists, but to no avail in getting a diagnosis - she went to Mayo again, but it didn't go well, it was a poor clinical exam - then early May was a nice sunny day
0:37:00
and Jill thought 'maybe they're right, maybe its all in my head, if I pretend it doesn't exist, I can do my 2 mile run'
0:38:00
Jill made it about 1/4 mile before her left foot became fatigued, but she continued by walking - she got worse, the numbness was spreading up her left leg and slowly limped back home
0:39:00
Jill concluded that the stroke stuff wasn't 'in her head' after all - Jill was also having visual problems on her left side, running into things, it was part of the unilateral neglect - Jill went to visual therapy, but it made her nauseous sick every time
0:40:00
All the allied health professional could see Jill's deficits, but the doctors couldn't - over time Jill built up some endurance - but the day after she tried to run, her ankle hurt a lot and she ended up needing ankle surgery
0:41:00
Jill looked into the intermittent sinus tachycardia and found other tests she should have - she finally found a doctor in Iowa who put Jill on aberdeen medication, popular in Europe, recently approved in the US
0:42:00
It would reduce heart rate, without reducing blood pressure, and Jill had normal blood pressure - Jill hoped that controlling her heart rate would prevent anymore TIAs or strokes - it seemed to help, but was super expensive, 100s of dollars a month, so she was ordering it online, but it would take weeks for delivery - Jill tried to cut her dose until the meds arrived so she didn't have to pay $60 for 1 pill locally
0:43:00
And Jill had another TIA that day, so she realized her arrythmia and stroke were related - but it took forever for any physicians to recognize that - Jill saw another specialist, a breath of fresh air - he implanted a heart rhythm monitor
0:44:00
Jill was still having TIAs, still limping - the heart monitor was catching Jill's heart arrythmias - but Jill was still having them and had maxed out the dose on the medication
0:45:00
It took a couple of years for Jill to learn that a heart ablation procedure could fix the arrythmia - ablation is burning the part of the heart that is causing the arrythmia - Jill had to go through 7 doctors to get the procedure because inappropriate sinus tachycardia is the like the fibromyalgia of pain, no doctors want to see you
0:46:00
Jill had the ablation, but needed a pacemaker a week later - the ablation procedure runs a tube up the femeral vein to the heart, use their software to determine the origination of the arrythmia, and then burn out that area
0:47:00
Jill went into A-Fib during the procedure and they had to shock her to get heart beat back to normal - they found several areas on her heart for ablation treatment - Jill also had a spot on the outside of her heart that was ablated
0:48:00
Jill was hoping the ablations and pacemaker would stop the strokes, but they didn't - Jill continued to have TIAs, some scarier than others, trips to the ER
0:49:00
Jill continued to research and seek out specialists - she learned that people can have strokes before their first A-Fib (Atrial Fibrillation) - so still a grey and growing area of research
0:50:00
Jill went back to the original ER doctor - Jill was worried that others would receive the same poor and mistreatment - Jill should have been given TPA, a blood thinner that would have cleared out any possible clots - if she had been given TPA, Jill would be back running and leading a normal life - so Jill wrote a lot of letters to the hospital, but only their attorneys replied - she tried writing to their stroke committee, but no one responded
0:51:00
When you're dealing with a stroke the health system won't acknowledge, it is super hard mentally - she also didn't want people in her home town to know she was struggling because it would affect her business - Jill was trying to figure out what happened that night in the ER, why did they send her home?
0:52:00
Jill later learned they had paged the neurologist, but the neurologist decided not to come in - but the ER doctor had a good reputation, and Jill tried to figure out how this happened under his watch - so a few years later when Jill was in the ER again, this doctor is trying to figure out why Jill still has symptoms from a stroke - when she told him it was his mistake, he felt very bad and had her transferred to a better hospital by ambulance to get a thorough stroke work up
0:53:00
Jill says it was nice to see that he really cared, and that it wasn't his fault, that he had believed Jill - could he have pushed harder for TPA medication, or a transfer to another hospital, or make the neurologist come in - eventually Jill saw a cardiologist who put her on eloquist (an anticoagulant), and that with a baby aspirin has controlled her arrythmia
0:54:00
3 things are probably contributing to Jill's strokes: thick blood, a small artery, and heart arrythmia, so its not a black and white diagnosis - this spring Jill has had some right side TIAs, and now the doctors acknowledge that 5 years ago she did have a stroke
0:55:00
Jill's life before was having a TIA every other week and trying to decide 'how bad was it?' - it was not a good existence - but now she doesn't have those symptoms, her arrythmia is better, she's had some complications from the pace maker surgery - Jill has a new lease on life
0:56:00
Jill is back working - but she still has fatigue issues with her left side - she still has some vision issues which cause nausea, so she takes a medication for that - but can still only walk about 1/4 mile - Jill had to have a 2nd ankle operation
0:57:00
Jill has to use a motorized scooter for any activity that requires a lot of walking - she can't do prolonged standing or walking - its hard for a former marathoner to have to use a scooter
0:58:00
Jill says she's grateful for what she does have, it could be far worse - Jill has had to accept what happened in the ER years ago - she's learned you can't trust blindly, and that's scary, and she's in medicine
0:59:00
Jill says to push for answers and treatment - and to advocate for yourself - if she didn't advocate for herself, she'd be on disability or dead given some of the complications she's had - Jill has written a book about her experiences navigating the health care system, sharing tips and tools
1:00:00
Jill covers when she didn't get care, or proper care, or the best care, things that were missed - she's tried to go back and correct things, but you can't correct everything - Jill's attitude is to try to correct the things she can - she doesn't want to dwell on the things she doesn't have, but focus on being grateful for what she does have - and to help so people don't have her experience, especially young people with strokes - the highest growing cohort for stroke and most likely to be missed in post partum women
1:01:00
Jill is also working with cardiologists to recognize that it is not only stroke, but tachycardia to be looking for - so Jill is trying to bring something good out of something negative, making meaning out of her experiences
1:02:00
Jill has her 1st book manuscript finished, tentatively titled "Physician Heal Thy Self" - her 2nd book just needs 1 more chapter to be written - connect with Jill at <a href='http://drjillmurphy.com/'>DrJillMurphy.com</a>
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<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Evidently having a doctorate in physical therapy and working in the health care field does not protect you from medical incompetence, arrogance and errors.
When Dr Jill Murphy went to the ER with potential stroke symptoms, the staff called the neurologist to examine Jill. But he refused, so the staff sent Jill away without a diagnosis, but with instructions to buy some baby aspirin.
This was the first in countless medical encounters where Jill was disbelieved, dismissed or denigrated. Meanwhile, she continued to have countless mini strokes. Yet doctor after doctor failed Jill. They gave her a ‘conversion disorder’ diagnosis, saying her symptoms were all in her head, telling her husband that she must have been sexually abused as a child.
But Jill is a smart and determined person, and her persistence paid off when she finally - years later - got a proper diagnosis that required a heart ablation and pacemaker and life-long medication. 
Now Jill is using that same determination - and lessons learned from being a disbelieved patient - to raise awareness and education among the public and health care workers and will soon be publishing her first book, Physician Heal Thy Self.
Connect with Jill:
https://facebook.com/DrJillMurphy/
Twitter: @MotionWorksPT
SHOW NOTES:
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Jill grew up on a dairy farm in north east Wisconsin, so a big Packer fan - youngest of 3, and we were expected to work - we're German, so lots of work and lots of cleaning - lots of work on the farm, no matter how old you were - looking back it was great, I learned how to work, but as a child I would have rather been at the pool with friends
0:05:00
Jill went to Concordia University, north of Milwaukee, for Athletic Training and Sports Medicine - and Jill also got her Masters in Physical Therapy there - her father was supportive of academic and athletic pursuits
0:06:00
Jill has an amazing career in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and completed her Doctorate in Physical Therapy (PT), it was a lot of work but Jill loved learning - Jill met and married her husband, bought a house, had a first child
0:07:00
Jill had no health issues until she had started her own PT clinic, and it creeped up on her during her 3rd pregnancy - in her 20th week she had heart arrythmia and ended up in the hospital - but the cardiologist said Jill's heart rate was not 100, said she was not a cardiac case and walked out - thankfully her OB (obstetrician doctor) put Jill on medication - a beta blocker - to control her rapid heart beat - but she never got a diagnosis
0:08:00
Jill was still able to work and was teaching a 'build a better body' class - as she got more pregnant, the more short of breath she got and couldn't speak to explain the drills while doing them, so she had to stop that class - the doctor increased the dose over the summer because of the warmer weather and the increase in tachycardia Jill experienced
0:09:00
Jill was an athlete, a marathoner, active her whole life, os her resting heart rate was about 60 - but now she was getting short of breath and rapid heart rate with little exertion
0:10:00
Jill was assured that whatever was going on with her heart rate was due to her pregnancy, and once she had the baby, Jill's heart problem would go away and slowly wean off the medicine - after a few months Jill tried to wean off the medicine, but it messed with her blood pressure - Jill saw a nurse practitioner who was helpful for managing medicine, but Jill still didn't have a diagnosis
0:11:00
That was winter 2014 - Jill thought she'd have to be on the medication for the rest of her life, she couldn't workout - and she kind of gave up when the doctors weren't concerned
0:12:00
So Jill went to the nearby Mayo Clinic to see a cardiologist, who ran a bunch of tests
0:13:00
During the echo cardiogram the staff kind of rushed in and asked if Jill was an athlete - she didn't know it at the time, but she had some enlarged areas of her heart - they didn't seem worried, but a couple of we]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>Troy McKnight: Laser eye surgery safety has a huge blind spot</title>
        <itunes:title>Troy McKnight: Laser eye surgery safety has a huge blind spot</itunes:title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When I first heard of laser eye surgery many moons ago, my first reaction was suspicion - on the face of it, it sounded very dangerous.  But after years of exposure to laser eye surgery advertisements, it squirmed its way on my list for consideration so that I didn’t have the bother of contact lenses.</p>
<p>After interviewing Troy (a pabout his experience having his vision permanently damaged, and hearing what he’s learned about laser eye research and the ophthalmologist industry, I will never ever get laser eye surgery. The risks are just too great -- especially the suicide inducing pain of corneal neuralgia, where it feels like pins are constantly being poked into your eye.</p>
<p>If you’re thinking about getting laser eye surgery, listen to what happened to Troy, and then take that into account in your decision.</p>
<p>Show Notes:

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<p>W5 Documentary:</p>
<p><a href='https://www.ctvnews.ca/ctv-national-news/video?clipId=1654087'>https://www.ctvnews.ca/ctv-national-news/video?clipId=1654087</a></p>
<p>Dentist awarded damages for eye procedure:</p>

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<p><a href='https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ca%2Famp%2Fs%2Fnationalpost.com%2Fnews%2Fcanada%2Fdentist-awarded-5-6m-for-botched-eye-surgery-by-toronto-doctor-that-left-him-worse-than-before%2Famp&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1a63c6dc1b2e4903c1fa08d7d111ee91%7Cfbd8a8d99ca948378d3ba5982af51080%7C0%7C0%7C637207747254679727&sdata=OSsKOkGYu7GFgjqMN9BJVsuDgcbPzbJLMLA6GwWpl8c%3D&reserved=0'>https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/news/canada/dentist-awarded-5-6m-for-botched-eye-surgery-by-toronto-doctor-that-left-him-worse-than-before/amp</a></p>
<p>FDA Official wants to ban Lasik:</p>
<p><a href='https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.phillyvoice.com/former-fda-adviser-lasik-dangers-eye-surgery/amp/'>https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.phillyvoice.com/former-fda-adviser-lasik-dangers-eye-surgery/amp/</a></p>
<p>Canadian class action lawsuit:</p>
<p><a href='https://lpclex.com/lasik/'>https://lpclex.com/lasik/</a></p>
<p>Jessica Starr - meteorologist:</p>
<p><a href='https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpeople.com%2Ftv%2Fmeteorologist-jessica-starr-suicide-family-speaks-out%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1a63c6dc1b2e4903c1fa08d7d111ee91%7Cfbd8a8d99ca948378d3ba5982af51080%7C0%7C0%7C637207747254679727&sdata=tfuVIfA3wEprFhyGdqBUtctCdAlNL1Bf4H3VhtCg4vA%3D&reserved=0'>https://people.com/tv/meteorologist-jessica-starr-suicide-family-speaks-out/</a></p>
<p>More info (Melanie B):</p>
<p><a href='https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flasikcomplications.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1a63c6dc1b2e4903c1fa08d7d111ee91%7Cfbd8a8d99ca948378d3ba5982af51080%7C0%7C0%7C637207747254679727&sdata=SXA1DAyFZvsJfJrjJhW%2BIULsUPyMwTYnSzK4HHBEbmg%3D&reserved=0'>https://lasikcomplications.com</a></p>

 
RETINAL LASER COMPLICATIONS
<p>Troy's Facebook page:</p>
<a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/640203739822311/?ref=share'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/640203739822311/?ref=share</a>
 
Patient website-retinal laser complications:
 
<a href='https://patient.info/forums/discuss/white-flickering-light-after-laser-for-retinal-tear-516808'>https://patient.info/forums/discuss/white-flickering-light-after-laser-for-retinal-tear-516808</a>















 















0:04:00
Troy (not his real name) grew up on a farm in Saskaetchewan in a normal family - great childhood, good parents who instilled good morals
0:05:00
Troy did have some flus as a child, but otherwise healthy until recently - he went to university and got a degree and become part of the rat race - he had a pretty good career with good friends and relationships
0:06:00
Troy wants to share his experience and what he's learned about laser eye surgery, including retinopathy, the procedure he had - Troy also wants to talk about the Canadian Medical Protective Association (CMPA), as its related to laser eye surgery
0:07:00
Troy has done a lot of research - Troy says lasers are dangerous weapons - the Geneva Convention has banned them in warfare - but lasers are approved by Health Canada and are used by lots of doctors
0:08:00
Troy's consent form for the procedure listed a lot of potential harms - a lot of information our brain processes, comes through our eyes - so if our eyes are injured by laser, it is an unnatural injury, unlike dirt, grim, etc
0:09:00
The retina does not heal, it has not evolved a regenerative capacity - there are a few different types of laser used in laser surgery - like in cataract surgery
0:10:00
The retina sits at the back of the eye - as we age, the retina can sometimes pull away from the back of an eye
0:11:00
This can cause 'flashers', a flash of light - it happens to a lot of people as they age
0:12:00
But Troy had 'floaters' in his vision and that's why he went to an opthamalogist in the first place, something he wishes he had never done - his floater was only in his right eye, and that was back in 2017
0:13:00
In retinalopathy, they will shoot the laser around the floater, the theory is that it will seal the tear (aka floater) so it does not grow larger and cause detachment - Troy had no problems with that procedure
0:14:00
In 2019, the opthamalogist tells Troy he has a small tear in his left eye
0:15:00
Troy thinks most people will have floaters, and will have some retinal tearing later in life - the procedure Troy had done was to stop the the tear from getting bigger, but another procedure tries to destroy the floater, but there is a risk to the optical nerve
0:16:00
During a laser procedure, you are awake, and if you move your eye during the laser, it can permanently damage your eye - Troy didn't want the 2nd procedure, but he was convinced
0:17:00
The procedure hurts, it is painful - the reason for the retinalopathy procedure is to prevent further tearing or detachment of the retina, but one of the risks of the prodecure is retinal detachment
0:18:00
Troy asks himself now, why did he sign the consent without asking questions
0:19:00
The consent form includes to circles representing the eyes to indicate where the procedure was performed - once the laser procedure is done, it is forever - there is no undoing it
0:20:00
From the 2019 laser procedure, Troy knew within a day or two someting wasn't right - he had visual disturbances - one moring he woke up in darkness, and as he moved his eyes, a fireworks explosion - that was disturbing
0:21:00
Troy also experiences symptoms when moving from bright sunlight to indoors, called 'while flickering lights' because his cones and rods (in his eyes) are misfiring - these happen every day, and flourescent light also set it off
0:22:00
Troy went to the doctor and was told they would go away in a month - then every time Troy went back, the doctor kept extending the date...3 months, 6 months -- but within the first week the doctor suggested Troy pay $100 to get retinal pictures
0:23:00
Troy wonders why the retinal pictures weren't done beforehand - even when he got the retinal pictures done after, he had trouble finding someone to read them - then he realized all these opthamaologists use lasers in one form or another, so they can't say there is a problem with lasers, when they themselves use lasers on patients - so its difficult to get a clear answer, so Troy has had to piece together what happened to him
0:24:00
Troy ascertained the doctor had made 4 strikes with the laser, but 3 of them were too close to the center of his eye, within his peripheral vision, so that's why he has these strange visual phenomenon
0:25:00
A problem common to all laser procedures, Lasik, cataract, etc, is dry eye - with retinopathy procedure, the laser passes through, and damages, the cornea to get to the retina, but the cornea usually heals - the eye is its own biosphere to protect against virus, dirt, etc - but when the cornea is dirsupted, it can cause dry eye, a major problem
0:26:00
Without proper lubrication in your eye, it is forever exposed to all kinds of infections - so Troy has to be very careful with his left eye, always has to clean it - so dry eye is a potential side effect of all laser procedures
0:27:00
Headaches, soreness, infections from dry eye - the toughest part for Troy is the flickering light in his vision - his father was a welder, so Troy wears welder grade sunglasses outside, so that when he moves inside, the difference isn't as big, and his symptoms aren't as inense
0:28:00
The welder lens is called a #5 lens - it was through experimenting that Troy discovered it helped him - as the sun goes down, the effect on his vision diminishes
0:29:00
It is most prevalent in the middle of the night - Troy says Lasik and PRK procedure patients have a lot of trouble at night, especially driving as they see star bursts, so it makes it impossible for them to drive at night - these are elective surgeries
0:30:00
The drops for dry eye costs $35 a month, and it will be needed forever - so not really saving money over buying glasses that can last for years...and your eyes don't hurt
0:31:00
Troy is sharing so other people know about these potential problems - as he researched, he found there wasn't much info about the procedure he had done (retinapathy), but he did find some research on Lasik and PRK - and there are 100s of 1000s of people suffering and committing suicide - there is a horrible illness called corneal neuralgia caused by Lasik
0:32:00
Troy says there is a great program on W5 (tv show) called Deadly Vision about the risks of Lasik - Troy says anyone who watches that and still wants Lasik is crazy - corneal neuralgia is like needles sticking into your eye all day long, extreme pain - a meteorologist in Detroit committed suicide a few weeks after Lasik surgery - a millionaire in Ontario was in so much pain he took his own life
0:33:00
A young man in military, took his own life because of corneal neuraglia - Canada says its 1 in 10,000, and there are 80,0000 procedures a year, so that's 8 people - but nobody knows the real numbers because there are no independent studies - and cataract surgery is like Lasik, so the same risks apply
0:34:00
Most cataract surgery is on senior citizens, so any symptoms they have attributed to old age - Troy thinks people should understand the risks of that surgery
0:35:00
Troy says we have to remember that all this info comes from the corporations that make the laser equipment - most of the opthamalogists operate as independent and there is a lot of money they are making, but there is no indepedent accountability - most of the eye clinics operate outside the provincial jurisdictional and regulatory system
0:36:00
If you go to a private eye clinic and then have a problem and go to the ER, they will tell you to go to the private clinic, except the private clinic doesn't offer after care - they make money off the procedure, but if you need after care, you have to go to the regular system - the only thing they can offer is anxiety meds
0:37:00
Troy thinks unless you have an emergency, be careful about having an eye procedure
0:38:00
Some people have had success with the procedures, but there is also the risk - Troy wants to warn people, they should think twice because there is little info about retinopathy risks
0:39:00
A former approving FDA official said publicly that laser eye surgery should be outright banned - his research shows complications up to 30% - but the eye doctor say less than 1% - the Canadian Opthamology Association says corneal neuralgia is 1 in 10,000
0:40:00
There are all kinds of other problems - dry eye, vision problems, blindness - so 1 in 3 people are going to have a problem - talk to people with Lasik procedures, and many will tell about dry eye - Troy tried to tell the CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) about the laser injuries, but they didn't care
0:41:00
Troy knows of a woman who started to go blind after Lasik surgery, the doctor gave her a business card to the CNIB and said good luck with that
0:42:00
There is a lot of money in the business, as they advertise a lot on Facebook, there ads are always popping up - there is a class action lawsuit in Canada against one of the Lasik companies, LasikMD, for corneal neuralgia sufferers - but it doesn't include the other providers of Lasik
0:43:00
Troy thinks the government should be looking into the quality of work and research by the manufacturers - the research is often funded by the company that will make money off the product - Troy thinks Health Canada would be keeping people safe
0:44:00
But you will hear a lot of people who had successful Lasik surgery - while the retina doesn't heal, the cornea has evolved to heal itself, and that's why there is success - but some people's cornea doesn't heal
75:00:00
Apparently there are more nerves in the eye than any where else in the body, and that is why corneal neuralgia is so painful - but where is the data and research - there are probably millions of people around the world suffering from Lasik procedures
0:46:00
Troy has some recommendations, wishes someone had told him before his procedure - he likens it to taking your car to the mechanic and he shows you the broken part they will fix or replace, and won't do more work without your approval
0:47:00
Troy thinks a picture of the retina should be taken before deciding on the procedure so the doctor can show you exactly what and where the problem is
0:48:00
It only takes few minutes, they all have retinal cameras in their office - its your right to ask for that - and agree to whatever areas you want treated
0:49:00
Also consider if the area is within your field of vision - providing a retinal picture before the procedure is not part of their standard operating procedure
0:50:00
Retinal pictures after the fact have little use - Troy doesn't know if he was charged per laser strikes (4) or if for the whold procedure
0:51:00
It took 2 minutes, but it cost $500 - but there is no undoing Lasik surgerey
0:52:00
Troy has seen pictures of people who have had thousands of laser strikes - laser attaches the retina to the back of the eye
0:53:00
The medical malpractice set up in Canada is different than other G7 countries - Canada has more medical errors than the others - it is almost impossible to sue a doctor in Canada
0:54:00
A lawyer told Troy that any harm listed on a consent form is there because it has happened - Troy says it is important you have informed consent - in Canada, each provincial health agency pays the CMPA with tax payer dollars
0:55:00
Lawyers has $5 billion of tax payers dollars, and they have hired almost every major law firm in Canada, so they can't represent you
0:56:00
So finding a lawyer if very hard - and they want to make sure they are going to be paid, so it has to be a horrific case - a lot of the award in a malpractice is for lost future wages, so a lawyer needs a client that had a high salary
0:57:00
Back in early 1900s, the law was made to constrain a medical malpractice awards to a small amount - it is also hard to find an expert witness, as doctors are reticent to testify against each other
0:58:00
But the CMPA will hire 5 or 10 experts, because they know that if you lose, you have to pay all their legal fees plus their expert fees - that will bankrupt you - Troy calls it triple jeopardy: tax payers pay doctors and pay CMPA and pay your own legal costs
0:59:00
If you lose, you also pay their legal costs - so its not surprising that only 60 cases go to court, but only single digits win their case - so the chances of winning are so low, that it makes it virtually impossible, statistically zero.
1:00:00
Troy says people shoud avoid getting elective laser eye surgery - Scott says he'd thought about having Lasik, but 10 minutes into hearing Troy's experience and research, he's decided he's never getting laser eye surgery
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<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
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<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first heard of laser eye surgery many moons ago, my first reaction was suspicion - on the face of it, it sounded very dangerous.  But after years of exposure to laser eye surgery advertisements, it squirmed its way on my list for consideration so that I didn’t have the bother of contact lenses.</p>
<p>After interviewing Troy (a pabout his experience having his vision permanently damaged, and hearing what he’s learned about laser eye research and the ophthalmologist industry, I will never ever get laser eye surgery. The risks are just too great -- especially the suicide inducing pain of corneal neuralgia, where it feels like pins are constantly being poked into your eye.</p>
<p>If you’re thinking about getting laser eye surgery, listen to what happened to Troy, and then take that into account in your decision.</p>
<p>Show Notes:<br>
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<p>W5 Documentary:</p>
<p><a href='https://www.ctvnews.ca/ctv-national-news/video?clipId=1654087'>https://www.ctvnews.ca/ctv-national-news/video?clipId=1654087</a></p>
<p>Dentist awarded damages for eye procedure:</p>

<p> </p>
<p><a href='https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ca%2Famp%2Fs%2Fnationalpost.com%2Fnews%2Fcanada%2Fdentist-awarded-5-6m-for-botched-eye-surgery-by-toronto-doctor-that-left-him-worse-than-before%2Famp&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1a63c6dc1b2e4903c1fa08d7d111ee91%7Cfbd8a8d99ca948378d3ba5982af51080%7C0%7C0%7C637207747254679727&sdata=OSsKOkGYu7GFgjqMN9BJVsuDgcbPzbJLMLA6GwWpl8c%3D&reserved=0'>https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/news/canada/dentist-awarded-5-6m-for-botched-eye-surgery-by-toronto-doctor-that-left-him-worse-than-before/amp</a></p>
<p>FDA Official wants to ban Lasik:</p>
<p><a href='https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.phillyvoice.com/former-fda-adviser-lasik-dangers-eye-surgery/amp/'>https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.phillyvoice.com/former-fda-adviser-lasik-dangers-eye-surgery/amp/</a></p>
<p>Canadian class action lawsuit:</p>
<p><a href='https://lpclex.com/lasik/'>https://lpclex.com/lasik/</a></p>
<p>Jessica Starr - meteorologist:</p>
<p><a href='https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpeople.com%2Ftv%2Fmeteorologist-jessica-starr-suicide-family-speaks-out%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1a63c6dc1b2e4903c1fa08d7d111ee91%7Cfbd8a8d99ca948378d3ba5982af51080%7C0%7C0%7C637207747254679727&sdata=tfuVIfA3wEprFhyGdqBUtctCdAlNL1Bf4H3VhtCg4vA%3D&reserved=0'>https://people.com/tv/meteorologist-jessica-starr-suicide-family-speaks-out/</a></p>
<p>More info (Melanie B):</p>
<p><a href='https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flasikcomplications.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1a63c6dc1b2e4903c1fa08d7d111ee91%7Cfbd8a8d99ca948378d3ba5982af51080%7C0%7C0%7C637207747254679727&sdata=SXA1DAyFZvsJfJrjJhW%2BIULsUPyMwTYnSzK4HHBEbmg%3D&reserved=0'>https://lasikcomplications.com</a></p>

 
RETINAL LASER COMPLICATIONS
<p>Troy's Facebook page:</p>
<a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/640203739822311/?ref=share'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/640203739822311/?ref=share</a>
 
Patient website-retinal laser complications:
 
<a href='https://patient.info/forums/discuss/white-flickering-light-after-laser-for-retinal-tear-516808'>https://patient.info/forums/discuss/white-flickering-light-after-laser-for-retinal-tear-516808</a>















 















0:04:00
Troy (not his real name) grew up on a farm in Saskaetchewan in a normal family - great childhood, good parents who instilled good morals
0:05:00
Troy did have some flus as a child, but otherwise healthy until recently - he went to university and got a degree and become part of the rat race - he had a pretty good career with good friends and relationships
0:06:00
Troy wants to share his experience and what he's learned about laser eye surgery, including retinopathy, the procedure he had - Troy also wants to talk about the Canadian Medical Protective Association (CMPA), as its related to laser eye surgery
0:07:00
Troy has done a lot of research - Troy says lasers are dangerous weapons - the Geneva Convention has banned them in warfare - but lasers are approved by Health Canada and are used by lots of doctors
0:08:00
Troy's consent form for the procedure listed a lot of potential harms - a lot of information our brain processes, comes through our eyes - so if our eyes are injured by laser, it is an unnatural injury, unlike dirt, grim, etc
0:09:00
The retina does not heal, it has not evolved a regenerative capacity - there are a few different types of laser used in laser surgery - like in cataract surgery
0:10:00
The retina sits at the back of the eye - as we age, the retina can sometimes pull away from the back of an eye
0:11:00
This can cause 'flashers', a flash of light - it happens to a lot of people as they age
0:12:00
But Troy had 'floaters' in his vision and that's why he went to an opthamalogist in the first place, something he wishes he had never done - his floater was only in his right eye, and that was back in 2017
0:13:00
In retinalopathy, they will shoot the laser around the floater, the theory is that it will seal the tear (aka floater) so it does not grow larger and cause detachment - Troy had no problems with that procedure
0:14:00
In 2019, the opthamalogist tells Troy he has a small tear in his left eye
0:15:00
Troy thinks most people will have floaters, and will have some retinal tearing later in life - the procedure Troy had done was to stop the the tear from getting bigger, but another procedure tries to destroy the floater, but there is a risk to the optical nerve
0:16:00
During a laser procedure, you are awake, and if you move your eye during the laser, it can permanently damage your eye - Troy didn't want the 2nd procedure, but he was convinced
0:17:00
The procedure hurts, it is painful - the reason for the retinalopathy procedure is to prevent further tearing or detachment of the retina, but one of the risks of the prodecure is retinal detachment
0:18:00
Troy asks himself now, why did he sign the consent without asking questions
0:19:00
The consent form includes to circles representing the eyes to indicate where the procedure was performed - once the laser procedure is done, it is forever - there is no undoing it
0:20:00
From the 2019 laser procedure, Troy knew within a day or two someting wasn't right - he had visual disturbances - one moring he woke up in darkness, and as he moved his eyes, a fireworks explosion - that was disturbing
0:21:00
Troy also experiences symptoms when moving from bright sunlight to indoors, called 'while flickering lights' because his cones and rods (in his eyes) are misfiring - these happen every day, and flourescent light also set it off
0:22:00
Troy went to the doctor and was told they would go away in a month - then every time Troy went back, the doctor kept extending the date...3 months, 6 months -- but within the first week the doctor suggested Troy pay $100 to get retinal pictures
0:23:00
Troy wonders why the retinal pictures weren't done beforehand - even when he got the retinal pictures done after, he had trouble finding someone to read them - then he realized all these opthamaologists use lasers in one form or another, so they can't say there is a problem with lasers, when they themselves use lasers on patients - so its difficult to get a clear answer, so Troy has had to piece together what happened to him
0:24:00
Troy ascertained the doctor had made 4 strikes with the laser, but 3 of them were too close to the center of his eye, within his peripheral vision, so that's why he has these strange visual phenomenon
0:25:00
A problem common to all laser procedures, Lasik, cataract, etc, is dry eye - with retinopathy procedure, the laser passes through, and damages, the cornea to get to the retina, but the cornea usually heals - the eye is its own biosphere to protect against virus, dirt, etc - but when the cornea is dirsupted, it can cause dry eye, a major problem
0:26:00
Without proper lubrication in your eye, it is forever exposed to all kinds of infections - so Troy has to be very careful with his left eye, always has to clean it - so dry eye is a potential side effect of all laser procedures
0:27:00
Headaches, soreness, infections from dry eye - the toughest part for Troy is the flickering light in his vision - his father was a welder, so Troy wears welder grade sunglasses outside, so that when he moves inside, the difference isn't as big, and his symptoms aren't as inense
0:28:00
The welder lens is called a #5 lens - it was through experimenting that Troy discovered it helped him - as the sun goes down, the effect on his vision diminishes
0:29:00
It is most prevalent in the middle of the night - Troy says Lasik and PRK procedure patients have a lot of trouble at night, especially driving as they see star bursts, so it makes it impossible for them to drive at night - these are elective surgeries
0:30:00
The drops for dry eye costs $35 a month, and it will be needed forever - so not really saving money over buying glasses that can last for years...and your eyes don't hurt
0:31:00
Troy is sharing so other people know about these potential problems - as he researched, he found there wasn't much info about the procedure he had done (retinapathy), but he did find some research on Lasik and PRK - and there are 100s of 1000s of people suffering and committing suicide - there is a horrible illness called corneal neuralgia caused by Lasik
0:32:00
Troy says there is a great program on W5 (tv show) called Deadly Vision about the risks of Lasik - Troy says anyone who watches that and still wants Lasik is crazy - corneal neuralgia is like needles sticking into your eye all day long, extreme pain - a meteorologist in Detroit committed suicide a few weeks after Lasik surgery - a millionaire in Ontario was in so much pain he took his own life
0:33:00
A young man in military, took his own life because of corneal neuraglia - Canada says its 1 in 10,000, and there are 80,0000 procedures a year, so that's 8 people - but nobody knows the real numbers because there are no independent studies - and cataract surgery is like Lasik, so the same risks apply
0:34:00
Most cataract surgery is on senior citizens, so any symptoms they have attributed to old age - Troy thinks people should understand the risks of that surgery
0:35:00
Troy says we have to remember that all this info comes from the corporations that make the laser equipment - most of the opthamalogists operate as independent and there is a lot of money they are making, but there is no indepedent accountability - most of the eye clinics operate outside the provincial jurisdictional and regulatory system
0:36:00
If you go to a private eye clinic and then have a problem and go to the ER, they will tell you to go to the private clinic, except the private clinic doesn't offer after care - they make money off the procedure, but if you need after care, you have to go to the regular system - the only thing they can offer is anxiety meds
0:37:00
Troy thinks unless you have an emergency, be careful about having an eye procedure
0:38:00
Some people have had success with the procedures, but there is also the risk - Troy wants to warn people, they should think twice because there is little info about retinopathy risks
0:39:00
A former approving FDA official said publicly that laser eye surgery should be outright banned - his research shows complications up to 30% - but the eye doctor say less than 1% - the Canadian Opthamology Association says corneal neuralgia is 1 in 10,000
0:40:00
There are all kinds of other problems - dry eye, vision problems, blindness - so 1 in 3 people are going to have a problem - talk to people with Lasik procedures, and many will tell about dry eye - Troy tried to tell the CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) about the laser injuries, but they didn't care
0:41:00
Troy knows of a woman who started to go blind after Lasik surgery, the doctor gave her a business card to the CNIB and said good luck with that
0:42:00
There is a lot of money in the business, as they advertise a lot on Facebook, there ads are always popping up - there is a class action lawsuit in Canada against one of the Lasik companies, LasikMD, for corneal neuralgia sufferers - but it doesn't include the other providers of Lasik
0:43:00
Troy thinks the government should be looking into the quality of work and research by the manufacturers - the research is often funded by the company that will make money off the product - Troy thinks Health Canada would be keeping people safe
0:44:00
But you will hear a lot of people who had successful Lasik surgery - while the retina doesn't heal, the cornea has evolved to heal itself, and that's why there is success - but some people's cornea doesn't heal
75:00:00
Apparently there are more nerves in the eye than any where else in the body, and that is why corneal neuralgia is so painful - but where is the data and research - there are probably millions of people around the world suffering from Lasik procedures
0:46:00
Troy has some recommendations, wishes someone had told him before his procedure - he likens it to taking your car to the mechanic and he shows you the broken part they will fix or replace, and won't do more work without your approval
0:47:00
Troy thinks a picture of the retina should be taken before deciding on the procedure so the doctor can show you exactly what and where the problem is
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It only takes few minutes, they all have retinal cameras in their office - its your right to ask for that - and agree to whatever areas you want treated
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Also consider if the area is within your field of vision - providing a retinal picture before the procedure is not part of their standard operating procedure
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Retinal pictures after the fact have little use - Troy doesn't know if he was charged per laser strikes (4) or if for the whold procedure
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It took 2 minutes, but it cost $500 - but there is no undoing Lasik surgerey
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Troy has seen pictures of people who have had thousands of laser strikes - laser attaches the retina to the back of the eye
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The medical malpractice set up in Canada is different than other G7 countries - Canada has more medical errors than the others - it is almost impossible to sue a doctor in Canada
0:54:00
A lawyer told Troy that any harm listed on a consent form is there because it has happened - Troy says it is important you have informed consent - in Canada, each provincial health agency pays the CMPA with tax payer dollars
0:55:00
Lawyers has $5 billion of tax payers dollars, and they have hired almost every major law firm in Canada, so they can't represent you
0:56:00
So finding a lawyer if very hard - and they want to make sure they are going to be paid, so it has to be a horrific case - a lot of the award in a malpractice is for lost future wages, so a lawyer needs a client that had a high salary
0:57:00
Back in early 1900s, the law was made to constrain a medical malpractice awards to a small amount - it is also hard to find an expert witness, as doctors are reticent to testify against each other
0:58:00
But the CMPA will hire 5 or 10 experts, because they know that if you lose, you have to pay all their legal fees plus their expert fees - that will bankrupt you - Troy calls it triple jeopardy: tax payers pay doctors and pay CMPA and pay your own legal costs
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If you lose, you also pay their legal costs - so its not surprising that only 60 cases go to court, but only single digits win their case - so the chances of winning are so low, that it makes it virtually impossible, statistically zero.
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Troy says people shoud avoid getting elective laser eye surgery - Scott says he'd thought about having Lasik, but 10 minutes into hearing Troy's experience and research, he's decided he's never getting laser eye surgery
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<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
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<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When I first heard of laser eye surgery many moons ago, my first reaction was suspicion - on the face of it, it sounded very dangerous.  But after years of exposure to laser eye surgery advertisements, it squirmed its way on my list for consideration so that I didn’t have the bother of contact lenses.
After interviewing Troy (a pabout his experience having his vision permanently damaged, and hearing what he’s learned about laser eye research and the ophthalmologist industry, I will never ever get laser eye surgery. The risks are just too great -- especially the suicide inducing pain of corneal neuralgia, where it feels like pins are constantly being poked into your eye.
If you’re thinking about getting laser eye surgery, listen to what happened to Troy, and then take that into account in your decision.
Show Notes:
W5 Documentary:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/ctv-national-news/video?clipId=1654087
Dentist awarded damages for eye procedure:

 
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/news/canada/dentist-awarded-5-6m-for-botched-eye-surgery-by-toronto-doctor-that-left-him-worse-than-before/amp
FDA Official wants to ban Lasik:
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.phillyvoice.com/former-fda-adviser-lasik-dangers-eye-surgery/amp/
Canadian class action lawsuit:
https://lpclex.com/lasik/
Jessica Starr - meteorologist:
https://people.com/tv/meteorologist-jessica-starr-suicide-family-speaks-out/
More info (Melanie B):
https://lasikcomplications.com

 
RETINAL LASER COMPLICATIONS
Troy's Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/640203739822311/?ref=share
 
Patient website-retinal laser complications:
 
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/white-flickering-light-after-laser-for-retinal-tear-516808















 















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Troy (not his real name) grew up on a farm in Saskaetchewan in a normal family - great childhood, good parents who instilled good morals
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Troy did have some flus as a child, but otherwise healthy until recently - he went to university and got a degree and become part of the rat race - he had a pretty good career with good friends and relationships
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Troy wants to share his experience and what he's learned about laser eye surgery, including retinopathy, the procedure he had - Troy also wants to talk about the Canadian Medical Protective Association (CMPA), as its related to laser eye surgery
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Troy has done a lot of research - Troy says lasers are dangerous weapons - the Geneva Convention has banned them in warfare - but lasers are approved by Health Canada and are used by lots of doctors
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Troy's consent form for the procedure listed a lot of potential harms - a lot of information our brain processes, comes through our eyes - so if our eyes are injured by laser, it is an unnatural injury, unlike dirt, grim, etc
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The retina does not heal, it has not evolved a regenerative capacity - there are a few different types of laser used in laser surgery - like in cataract surgery
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The retina sits at the back of the eye - as we age, the retina can sometimes pull away from the back of an eye
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This can cause 'flashers', a flash of light - it happens to a lot of people as they age
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But Troy had 'floaters' in his vision and that's why he went to an opthamalogist in the first place, something he wishes he had never done - his floater was only in his right eye, and that was back in 2017
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In retinalopathy, they will shoot the laser around the floater, the theory is that it will seal the tear (aka floater) so it does not grow larger and cause detachment - Troy had no problems with that procedure
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In 2019, the opthamalogist tells Troy he has a small tear in his left eye
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Troy thinks most people will have floaters, and will have some retinal tearing later in life - the procedure Troy had done was to stop the the tear from getting bigger, but another procedure tries to destroy the floater, but there is a risk to the optical nerve
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Until I started doing this podcast, I was mostly ignorant to the extent of the harm sometimes caused by psychiatric and antibiotic medications. In spite of my own 2 week experience with disabling withdrawal symptoms from an antidepressant 20 years ago, and contemporary reports of withdrawal symptoms from friends and clients, I still had no idea how pervasive - and sometimes permanent - these brain injuries were.</p>
<p>As frightening as that was to learn, the prescriptions for psychiatric medication for depression and anxiety have soared in during the COVID pandemic. </p>
<p>And let’s face it folks, we are still in the early stages of the pandemic - if we get blue skies with double rainbows we may have a vaccine in 18 months, but that’s really wishful thinking - the global economy has taken an unprecedented hit, and that means many people’s jobs and financial security are going to be at further risk. This will only add to the feelings of anxiety -- but let’s be clear, it is normal to feel anxious about how the world is suddenly changing in so many ways. Learning coping skills, having strategies to feel more safe in an unknown future, and using supportive relationships are natural ways to feel better about feeling anxious.</p>
<p>In this episode, we hear what happened to Jocelyn Pedersen after taking a benzodiazepine for less than a week.</p>
<p>Jocelyn was so physically sick from the benzo brain injury, she had to spend much of the time horizontal on the floor with her baby while her neighbour’s helped with household chores. Jocelyn’s body was a complete mess: she couldn’t sleep, eat, watch tv, read, her bowels were dysfunctional and she was losing weight fast.</p>
<p>That’s just the start of Jocelyn’s journey with benzodiazepine medications -- a medication journey, as Jocelyn describes, that goes through madness.</p>
<p>Jocelyn’s health care experience is a textbook example of how the medical system pushes psychiatric medications without understanding how the meds can cause brain injury. This often leads to doctors denying side effects or withdrawal symptoms, effectively gaslighting the patient, psychologizing physical symptoms, and pathologizing human emotions.</p>
<p>It was a long arduous road for Jocelyn to get back to her usual high functioning self, and along the way she started sharing her experiences and what she learned and now Jocelyn has a large following on social media. On her YouTube channel Benzo Brains, Jocelyn shares real world information about benzodiazepines and strategies on successfully managing the withdrawal symptoms.</p>
<p>Jocelyn has just written a memoir about her experiences with benzos and the health care system called “Seeds of Hope: A Journey Through Medication and Madness Toward Meaning”.</p>
<p>Available on Amazon: <a href='https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1'>https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1</a></p>
Connect with Jocelyn Pedersen:
People can pre-order Seeds of Hope: A Journey Through Medication and Madness Toward Meaning through moongladepress.com and when it's released June 1st on <a href='http://amazon.com/'>Amazon.com</a>: <a href='https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1'>https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1</a>
My channel is YouTube.com/c/BenzoBrains
Some other helpful resources are 
benzoreform.org
benzoinfo.com
benzo.org.uk/manual
<a href='http://councilforsustainablehealing.org/'>councilforsustainablehealing.org</a>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
 
About Jocelyn Pedersen: After experiencing a severe injury to her brain and body from prescription medications, Jocelyn co-founded the non-profit, Benzodiazepine Information Coalition. She is a speaker at CME's and continuing education courses for doctors and healthcare providers on the dangers of benzodiazepines and how to help patients safely withdraw. Jocelyn is also subject in the upcoming As Prescribed documentary film and the author of Seeds of Hope: a Journey through medication and madness toward meaning. When she's not busy managing her Benzo Brains YouTube channel or serving as an advisor to The Alliance for Benzodiazepine Best Practices and The Council for Sustainable Healing, you can find her rocking out to big band music and forcing her kids to watch MGM musicals with her.
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Jocelyn grew up in Pueblo, Colorado and her childhood was mixture of good and bad things, mental and physical abuse - but also grew up with a lot of spiritual support at Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints and it stabilized her and taught her to overcome
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Jocelyn got an academic scholarship to Brigham Young University so she moved to Utah and she loved college and graduated with a BS (Bachelor of Science) in childhood educations - college was a way to escape and re-start her life
0:08:00
Jocelyn got married and they moved to North Carolina and they had their first baby, but he passed away, so they decided to move closer to family for support and moved to Utah
0:09:00
Jocelyn started teaching at a local school for 2 years until she got pregnant again - she writes about her experience in her memoir that will be released in June: "Seeds of Hope: A Journey through medication and madness toward meaning" -- a couple of years later she had another baby, a girl to go with a boy
0:10:00
Jocelyn's father was a chiropractor so she grew up with a healthy distrust of allo medicine - but her story really starts when Jocelyn sought out a sleeping pill from her doctor - her baby daughter was in the hospital with meningitis, and then her toddler son was admitted to the hospital twice, so Jocelyn was not getting enough sleep - the economy was bad at the time, her husband was out of work
0:11:00
The doctor prescribed Ambien and assured Jocelyn it wouldn't pass through her breast milk to her baby - Jocelyn doesn't like taking medications, but thought she'd take it temporarily to get back into her sleep cycle
0:12:00
But within a couple of days, Jocelyn could tell her baby daughter was being affected by the Ambien - after 5 or 6 days Jocelyn stopped the Ambien and that's when things fell apart and her insomnia got much worse, she had ringing in her ears, running to the bathroom all the time, couldn't eat, losing weight, couldn't read a book, watch tv, and suddenly also had pain and couldn't even go for a walk
0:13:00
Jocelyn had a bunch of tests done but they all came back normal, so no explanation, except being told 'you have post partum depression', or 'you're having a nervous breakdwon', or 'you have anxiety' - but Jocelyn knew about depression from the death of her first baby, and this wasn't that
0:14:00
After about 4 months of literally lying on the floor with her baby and neighbours coming by to help - Jocelyn had been a high energy person: running, yoga, working out - but then she started to get suicidal thoughts
0:15:00
Jocelyn was told by the doctor she had major depressive disorder and an anxiety disorder and was given Effexor and Ativan - the first day she took the meds she slept well for the first time in 4 months - only later would Jocelyn realize that Ativan is practically the same as Ambien
0:16:00
So the Ativan stabilized the injury from the Ambien - originally Jocelyn was only to take the Ativan for a brief period, but the doctor increased the dose to 2 mg - 'it was like magic', Jocelyn felt better, like her old self, except for the pain, which was diagnosed as Fibromyalgia, and she was given Cymbalta for the pain - so for the most port Jocelyn was able to lead a normal life, she was a believer that she must have needed the meds
0:17:00
Jocelyn had studied and learned a lot about natural medicine and didn't like the idea of continuing to take Cymbalta, and it put weight on her
0:18:00
But the doctor would say, 'don't stop the Cymbalta until you've stopped the Ativan, now Lorazepam - but every time she tried to cut down, her symptoms would get worse, she couldn't sleep - so she stayed on them for another 3 years - but eventually tried to wean off again - she did stop progesterone cold turkey and got really sick
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Her blood pressure sky rocketed, she gained a lot of weight, and falling asleep in the middle of the day - so she cold turkeyed it and the first time she experienced full on crazy, shaking all the time, and couldn't function
0:20:00
Jocelyn realized later the Cymbalta had really messed with her blood sugar and that's why she had put on so much weight - Jocelyn successfully weaned of the Cymbalta, but was still taking Lorazepam at night, but she and her husband wanted to have another baby but the literature said that Lorazepam could cause birth defects - they decided to go ahead and try to have another baby and that Jocelyn would try to taper off the Lorazepam
0:21:00
But Jocelyn later learned it doesn't really cause birth defects, but can cause of miscarriages if stopped to fast - Jocelyn did get pregnant and started to taper by 1/8th
0:22:00
Just cutting an 1/8th of a mg caused intense disabling symptoms: couldn't shower, read, watch tv, losing weight, and anxiety of a whole other dimension
0:23:00
It was torture, and then she had to cut the dose again, and then again - by the time Jocelyn got to half way she was ready to give up and kill herself because she couldn't handle the unending torture - luckily her husband started researching online - because Jocelyn couldn't - and found <a href='http://benzobuddies.org/'>BenzoBuddies.org</a> and <a href='http://benzo.org.uk/'>Benzo.org.uk</a> and he found the Ashton Manual, which a lot of people use to withdraw
0:24:00
They realized that Jocelyn wasn't crazy and that a lot of people were having the same experiences - and Jocelyn was probably tapering too fast - Ativan has a half life, so Jocelyn would experience sudden symptom onsets daily - so she switched to a longer lasting benzo to complete her taper
0:25:00
At the time, Jocelyn was too sick to go to the doctor - the next time she saw a doctor was at the ER when she thought she was having a miscarriage - they brought the Ashton Manual and requested Valium to stabilize Jocelyn, the doctor was resistant but finally agreed
0:26:00
The Valium provided some relief, but it was still hell and she didn't feel like she was going to take her own life - her family has seen Jocelyn struggle with Ambien withdrawal a few years before, and hearing the testimonials of others, helped them all to understand
0:27:00
Jocelyn had been drug injured with Ambien, but misdiagnosed with anxiety and depression - Jocelyn's doctor, a friend of the family, did not recognize withdrawal symptoms of Ambien
0:28:00
Jocelyn did have a miscarriage, which she is thankful for in some ways as she wasn't well enough to take care of a newborn at the time - Jocelyn continued to taper
0:29:00
Jocelyn tried various versions of tapering before discovering water titration, which she shows how to do on her YouTube channel - she had learned that in Facebook support groups - Jocelyn did reach out to mainstream medicine, she has a chapter in her book called 'Physician Heal Thyself' - all the doctors thought they knew about withdrawal, but none of them did, and none of them had read the Ashton Manual
0:30:00
One doctor told Jocelyn that she just couldn't handle being a Mom and should take some Prozac - the only doctor who was reasonable was Jocelyn's family doctor, but all he was willing to do was to prescribe the Valium
0:31:00
But when he was gone and Jocelyn had to deal with one of the other providers at his clinic, she was given the 3rd degree every time - it took Jocelyn about 18 months to taper off 13 mg dose of Valium - the newer benzos are many multiples more powerful then Valium, yet its the the Valium doctors are hesitant to prescribe
0:32:00
Jocelyn had to learn to accept where she was during the taper, that she had a brain injury - she also had support with the kids during the day, when her son started back to school...
0:33:00
she reached out to people in her church community and a different family came over each day to help her - Jocelyn does not know how she could have managed without community support because her husband was working 2 jobs
0:34:00
The big turning point for Jocelyn was finding a functional medicine doctor, a ND (Naturopathic Doctor) - she found one in her area and helped her with her benzo belly - he did tests that allopathic doctors don't do
0:35:00
He was able to pinpoint deficiencies - she started on a high protein diet because she was hypoglecemic - after about a week on his protocol Jocelyn started improving a lot, sleeping well
0:36:00
Then her son was prescribed an antibiotic and it injured him - it was like deja vu: once again no doctor is believing them - turns out her son developed an autoimmune illness and is allergic to everything - he was a normal boy, running and playing, then suddenly he's in a wheelchair and crying out in pain every few minutes
0:37:00
The paedeatric allergist said her son always had the autoimmune illness, refused to believe it was caused by an antibiotic - but the functional medicine doctor was able to help cut down on the inflammation and allergic reactions, but they are still figuring it out - he has a lot of trauma from that, and from a Mom who was disabled twice in his life - Jocelyn had to learn not to give power to health providers, and to heal herself
0:38:00
Yoga, meditation, diet, stem cell therapy for trigeminal pain -- nerve pain in her face -- it literally hurt to breath - the stem cell was very helpful, but she has to go back every 4 months or so as the pain comes back
0:39:00
How can someone help you if they don't even believe you? -- some doctors are open, but plenty are just closed minded
0:40:00
During her taper, Jocelyn was asked to be a moderator of a Facebook group, so she helped people find resources - then another friend asked her start another group to help people apply for disability or medical malpractice suits or correct medical records - Jocelyn realized they needed some 'weight' behind them, as they were 'just' sick patients, so Jocelyn suggested they start a non-profit
0:41:00
The Benzodiazepine Information Coalition - but then her son got sick and she had to step back to care for and home school him - but it was toward the end of her taper that she made her first Youtube video, just for her friends in the support group - and it got lots of shares - then when she was frustrated with doctors she made another video and that was picked up by Mad in America, and things just picked up
0:42:00
Her videos help people with brain injuries and their families get the support then needed - her Youtube channel is Benzo Brains - Jocelyn is doing really well. now, living life fully - she does get more stressed out physically
0:43:00
Her body is kind of delicate now, but she is really happy, with peace and joy - but if she doesn't get enough sleep or eat write, a dark blanket descends on her brain, but she knows it is only temporary - but it is painful having a son who is still suffering, but she's not coming from a place of fear
0:44:00
Jocelyn believes the suicidal thoughts that came from withdrawal are product of the medications causing the repeated thought 'kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself'
0:45:00
Most of the people dealing with withdrawal are good people, just doing what your doctor told you - Jocelyn was asked to speak in 2017 at the benzodaizipine medical symposium for doctors
0:46:00
Jocelyn met a lot of wonderful people, including a woman, a benzo survivor, who asked Jocelyn to write a book - initially Jocelyn declined but then thought it could be a good tool to get the message out there
0:47:00
It took a while to write while taking care of kids and her own healing journey, but it will be published June 1st - Seeds of Hope: A journey through madness, medication and meaning - she wants to give people hope that are in the same situation
0:48:00
The publisher approached Jocelyn to write the book - some of her benzo awareness efforts have been black balled by google or facebook or youtube
0:49:00
Obviously there are forces out there they do not want this information in the public spere, but Jocelyn believes there also people out there that know something is wrong - benzo perscriptions have increased 10 fold over the last decade - doctors are just substituting benzos for opiates - so big pharma's profits increased by 10 fold - since COVID, anxiety meds prescriptions have increased 34%
0:50:00
Alliance of Benzo Best Practices is a group of doctors who understand, and researchers who want to do research for the FDA to change recommendations, and to re-educate doctors on these drugs
0:51:00
The stuff pharma puts out, does not warn people about what these drugs can do
 
Connect with Jocelyn Pedersen:
 
People can pre-order Seeds of Hope: A Journey Through Medication and Madness Toward Meaning through moongladepress.com and when it's released June 1st on <a href='http://amazon.com/'>Amazon.com</a>: <a href='https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1'>https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1</a>
My channel is YouTube.com/c/BenzoBrains
Some other helpful resources are 
benzoreform.org
benzoinfo.com
benzo.org.uk/manual
<a href='http://councilforsustainablehealing.org/'>councilforsustainablehealing.org</a>
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<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p>

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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until I started doing this podcast, I was mostly ignorant to the extent of the harm sometimes caused by psychiatric and antibiotic medications. In spite of my own 2 week experience with disabling withdrawal symptoms from an antidepressant 20 years ago, and contemporary reports of withdrawal symptoms from friends and clients, I still had no idea how pervasive - and sometimes permanent - these brain injuries were.</p>
<p>As frightening as that was to learn, the prescriptions for psychiatric medication for depression and anxiety have soared in during the COVID pandemic. </p>
<p>And let’s face it folks, we are still in the early stages of the pandemic - if we get blue skies with double rainbows we may have a vaccine in 18 months, but that’s really wishful thinking - the global economy has taken an unprecedented hit, and that means many people’s jobs and financial security are going to be at further risk. This will only add to the feelings of anxiety -- but let’s be clear, it is <em>normal</em> to feel anxious about how the world is suddenly changing in so many ways. Learning coping skills, having strategies to feel more safe in an unknown future, and using supportive relationships are <em>natural</em> ways to feel better about feeling anxious.</p>
<p>In this episode, we hear what happened to Jocelyn Pedersen after taking a benzodiazepine for less than a week.</p>
<p>Jocelyn was so physically sick from the benzo brain injury, she had to spend much of the time horizontal on the floor with her baby while her neighbour’s helped with household chores. Jocelyn’s body was a complete mess: she couldn’t sleep, eat, watch tv, read, her bowels were dysfunctional and she was losing weight fast.</p>
<p>That’s just the start of Jocelyn’s journey with benzodiazepine medications -- a medication journey, as Jocelyn describes, that goes through madness.</p>
<p>Jocelyn’s health care experience is a textbook example of how the medical system pushes psychiatric medications without understanding how the meds can cause brain injury. This often leads to doctors denying side effects or withdrawal symptoms, effectively gaslighting the patient, psychologizing physical symptoms, and pathologizing human emotions.</p>
<p>It was a long arduous road for Jocelyn to get back to her usual high functioning self, and along the way she started sharing her experiences and what she learned and now Jocelyn has a large following on social media. On her YouTube channel Benzo Brains, Jocelyn shares real world information about benzodiazepines and strategies on successfully managing the withdrawal symptoms.</p>
<p>Jocelyn has just written a memoir about her experiences with benzos and the health care system called “Seeds of Hope: A Journey Through Medication and Madness Toward Meaning”.</p>
<p>Available on Amazon: <a href='https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1'>https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1</a></p>
Connect with Jocelyn Pedersen:
People can pre-order Seeds of Hope: A Journey Through Medication and Madness Toward Meaning through moongladepress.com and when it's released June 1st on <a href='http://amazon.com/'>Amazon.com</a>: <a href='https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1'>https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1</a><br>
My channel is YouTube.com/c/BenzoBrains<br>
Some other helpful resources are <br>
benzoreform.org<br>
benzoinfo.com<br>
benzo.org.uk/manual<br>
<a href='http://councilforsustainablehealing.org/'>councilforsustainablehealing.org</a>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
 
About Jocelyn Pedersen: After experiencing a severe injury to her brain and body from prescription medications, Jocelyn co-founded the non-profit, Benzodiazepine Information Coalition. She is a speaker at CME's and continuing education courses for doctors and healthcare providers on the dangers of benzodiazepines and how to help patients safely withdraw. Jocelyn is also subject in the upcoming As Prescribed documentary film and the author of Seeds of Hope: a Journey through medication and madness toward meaning. When she's not busy managing her Benzo Brains YouTube channel or serving as an advisor to The Alliance for Benzodiazepine Best Practices and The Council for Sustainable Healing, you can find her rocking out to big band music and forcing her kids to watch MGM musicals with her.
0:06:00
Jocelyn grew up in Pueblo, Colorado and her childhood was mixture of good and bad things, mental and physical abuse - but also grew up with a lot of spiritual support at Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints and it stabilized her and taught her to overcome
0:07:00
Jocelyn got an academic scholarship to Brigham Young University so she moved to Utah and she loved college and graduated with a BS (Bachelor of Science) in childhood educations - college was a way to escape and re-start her life
0:08:00
Jocelyn got married and they moved to North Carolina and they had their first baby, but he passed away, so they decided to move closer to family for support and moved to Utah
0:09:00
Jocelyn started teaching at a local school for 2 years until she got pregnant again - she writes about her experience in her memoir that will be released in June: "Seeds of Hope: A Journey through medication and madness toward meaning" -- a couple of years later she had another baby, a girl to go with a boy
0:10:00
Jocelyn's father was a chiropractor so she grew up with a healthy distrust of allo medicine - but her story really starts when Jocelyn sought out a sleeping pill from her doctor - her baby daughter was in the hospital with meningitis, and then her toddler son was admitted to the hospital twice, so Jocelyn was not getting enough sleep - the economy was bad at the time, her husband was out of work
0:11:00
The doctor prescribed Ambien and assured Jocelyn it wouldn't pass through her breast milk to her baby - Jocelyn doesn't like taking medications, but thought she'd take it temporarily to get back into her sleep cycle
0:12:00
But within a couple of days, Jocelyn could tell her baby daughter was being affected by the Ambien - after 5 or 6 days Jocelyn stopped the Ambien and that's when things fell apart and her insomnia got much worse, she had ringing in her ears, running to the bathroom all the time, couldn't eat, losing weight, couldn't read a book, watch tv, and suddenly also had pain and couldn't even go for a walk
0:13:00
Jocelyn had a bunch of tests done but they all came back normal, so no explanation, except being told 'you have post partum depression', or 'you're having a nervous breakdwon', or 'you have anxiety' - but Jocelyn knew about depression from the death of her first baby, and this wasn't that
0:14:00
After about 4 months of literally lying on the floor with her baby and neighbours coming by to help - Jocelyn had been a high energy person: running, yoga, working out - but then she started to get suicidal thoughts
0:15:00
Jocelyn was told by the doctor she had major depressive disorder and an anxiety disorder and was given Effexor and Ativan - the first day she took the meds she slept well for the first time in 4 months - only later would Jocelyn realize that Ativan is practically the same as Ambien
0:16:00
So the Ativan stabilized the injury from the Ambien - originally Jocelyn was only to take the Ativan for a brief period, but the doctor increased the dose to 2 mg - 'it was like magic', Jocelyn felt better, like her old self, except for the pain, which was diagnosed as Fibromyalgia, and she was given Cymbalta for the pain - so for the most port Jocelyn was able to lead a normal life, she was a believer that she must have needed the meds
0:17:00
Jocelyn had studied and learned a lot about natural medicine and didn't like the idea of continuing to take Cymbalta, and it put weight on her
0:18:00
But the doctor would say, 'don't stop the Cymbalta until you've stopped the Ativan, now Lorazepam - but every time she tried to cut down, her symptoms would get worse, she couldn't sleep - so she stayed on them for another 3 years - but eventually tried to wean off again - she did stop progesterone cold turkey and got really sick
0:19:00
Her blood pressure sky rocketed, she gained a lot of weight, and falling asleep in the middle of the day - so she cold turkeyed it and the first time she experienced full on crazy, shaking all the time, and couldn't function
0:20:00
Jocelyn realized later the Cymbalta had really messed with her blood sugar and that's why she had put on so much weight - Jocelyn successfully weaned of the Cymbalta, but was still taking Lorazepam at night, but she and her husband wanted to have another baby but the literature said that Lorazepam could cause birth defects - they decided to go ahead and try to have another baby and that Jocelyn would try to taper off the Lorazepam
0:21:00
But Jocelyn later learned it doesn't really cause birth defects, but can cause of miscarriages if stopped to fast - Jocelyn did get pregnant and started to taper by 1/8th
0:22:00
Just cutting an 1/8th of a mg caused intense disabling symptoms: couldn't shower, read, watch tv, losing weight, and anxiety of a whole other dimension
0:23:00
It was torture, and then she had to cut the dose again, and then again - by the time Jocelyn got to half way she was ready to give up and kill herself because she couldn't handle the unending torture - luckily her husband started researching online - because Jocelyn couldn't - and found <a href='http://benzobuddies.org/'>BenzoBuddies.org</a> and <a href='http://benzo.org.uk/'>Benzo.org.uk</a> and he found the Ashton Manual, which a lot of people use to withdraw
0:24:00
They realized that Jocelyn wasn't crazy and that a lot of people were having the same experiences - and Jocelyn was probably tapering too fast - Ativan has a half life, so Jocelyn would experience sudden symptom onsets daily - so she switched to a longer lasting benzo to complete her taper
0:25:00
At the time, Jocelyn was too sick to go to the doctor - the next time she saw a doctor was at the ER when she thought she was having a miscarriage - they brought the Ashton Manual and requested Valium to stabilize Jocelyn, the doctor was resistant but finally agreed
0:26:00
The Valium provided some relief, but it was still hell and she didn't feel like she was going to take her own life - her family has seen Jocelyn struggle with Ambien withdrawal a few years before, and hearing the testimonials of others, helped them all to understand
0:27:00
Jocelyn had been drug injured with Ambien, but misdiagnosed with anxiety and depression - Jocelyn's doctor, a friend of the family, did not recognize withdrawal symptoms of Ambien
0:28:00
Jocelyn did have a miscarriage, which she is thankful for in some ways as she wasn't well enough to take care of a newborn at the time - Jocelyn continued to taper
0:29:00
Jocelyn tried various versions of tapering before discovering water titration, which she shows how to do on her YouTube channel - she had learned that in Facebook support groups - Jocelyn did reach out to mainstream medicine, she has a chapter in her book called 'Physician Heal Thyself' - all the doctors thought they knew about withdrawal, but none of them did, and none of them had read the Ashton Manual
0:30:00
One doctor told Jocelyn that she just couldn't handle being a Mom and should take some Prozac - the only doctor who was reasonable was Jocelyn's family doctor, but all he was willing to do was to prescribe the Valium
0:31:00
But when he was gone and Jocelyn had to deal with one of the other providers at his clinic, she was given the 3rd degree every time - it took Jocelyn about 18 months to taper off 13 mg dose of Valium - the newer benzos are many multiples more powerful then Valium, yet its the the Valium doctors are hesitant to prescribe
0:32:00
Jocelyn had to learn to accept where she was during the taper, that she had a brain injury - she also had support with the kids during the day, when her son started back to school...
0:33:00
she reached out to people in her church community and a different family came over each day to help her - Jocelyn does not know how she could have managed without community support because her husband was working 2 jobs
0:34:00
The big turning point for Jocelyn was finding a functional medicine doctor, a ND (Naturopathic Doctor) - she found one in her area and helped her with her benzo belly - he did tests that allopathic doctors don't do
0:35:00
He was able to pinpoint deficiencies - she started on a high protein diet because she was hypoglecemic - after about a week on his protocol Jocelyn started improving a lot, sleeping well
0:36:00
Then her son was prescribed an antibiotic and it injured him - it was like deja vu: once again no doctor is believing them - turns out her son developed an autoimmune illness and is allergic to everything - he was a normal boy, running and playing, then suddenly he's in a wheelchair and crying out in pain every few minutes
0:37:00
The paedeatric allergist said her son always had the autoimmune illness, refused to believe it was caused by an antibiotic - but the functional medicine doctor was able to help cut down on the inflammation and allergic reactions, but they are still figuring it out - he has a lot of trauma from that, and from a Mom who was disabled twice in his life - Jocelyn had to learn not to give power to health providers, and to heal herself
0:38:00
Yoga, meditation, diet, stem cell therapy for trigeminal pain -- nerve pain in her face -- it literally hurt to breath - the stem cell was very helpful, but she has to go back every 4 months or so as the pain comes back
0:39:00
How can someone help you if they don't even believe you? -- some doctors are open, but plenty are just closed minded
0:40:00
During her taper, Jocelyn was asked to be a moderator of a Facebook group, so she helped people find resources - then another friend asked her start another group to help people apply for disability or medical malpractice suits or correct medical records - Jocelyn realized they needed some 'weight' behind them, as they were 'just' sick patients, so Jocelyn suggested they start a non-profit
0:41:00
The Benzodiazepine Information Coalition - but then her son got sick and she had to step back to care for and home school him - but it was toward the end of her taper that she made her first Youtube video, just for her friends in the support group - and it got lots of shares - then when she was frustrated with doctors she made another video and that was picked up by Mad in America, and things just picked up
0:42:00
Her videos help people with brain injuries and their families get the support then needed - her Youtube channel is Benzo Brains - Jocelyn is doing really well. now, living life fully - she does get more stressed out physically
0:43:00
Her body is kind of delicate now, but she is really happy, with peace and joy - but if she doesn't get enough sleep or eat write, a dark blanket descends on her brain, but she knows it is only temporary - but it is painful having a son who is still suffering, but she's not coming from a place of fear
0:44:00
Jocelyn believes the suicidal thoughts that came from withdrawal are product of the medications causing the repeated thought 'kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself'
0:45:00
Most of the people dealing with withdrawal are good people, just doing what your doctor told you - Jocelyn was asked to speak in 2017 at the benzodaizipine medical symposium for doctors
0:46:00
Jocelyn met a lot of wonderful people, including a woman, a benzo survivor, who asked Jocelyn to write a book - initially Jocelyn declined but then thought it could be a good tool to get the message out there
0:47:00
It took a while to write while taking care of kids and her own healing journey, but it will be published June 1st - Seeds of Hope: A journey through madness, medication and meaning - she wants to give people hope that are in the same situation
0:48:00
The publisher approached Jocelyn to write the book - some of her benzo awareness efforts have been black balled by google or facebook or youtube
0:49:00
Obviously there are forces out there they do not want this information in the public spere, but Jocelyn believes there also people out there that know something is wrong - benzo perscriptions have increased 10 fold over the last decade - doctors are just substituting benzos for opiates - so big pharma's profits increased by 10 fold - since COVID, anxiety meds prescriptions have increased 34%
0:50:00
Alliance of Benzo Best Practices is a group of doctors who understand, and researchers who want to do research for the FDA to change recommendations, and to re-educate doctors on these drugs
0:51:00
The stuff pharma puts out, does not warn people about what these drugs can do
 
Connect with Jocelyn Pedersen:
 
People can pre-order Seeds of Hope: A Journey Through Medication and Madness Toward Meaning through moongladepress.com and when it's released June 1st on <a href='http://amazon.com/'>Amazon.com</a>: <a href='https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1'>https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1</a><br>
My channel is YouTube.com/c/BenzoBrains<br>
Some other helpful resources are <br>
benzoreform.org<br>
benzoinfo.com<br>
benzo.org.uk/manual<br>
<a href='http://councilforsustainablehealing.org/'>councilforsustainablehealing.org</a>
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<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p><br>
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As frightening as that was to learn, the prescriptions for psychiatric medication for depression and anxiety have soared in during the COVID pandemic. 
And let’s face it folks, we are still in the early stages of the pandemic - if we get blue skies with double rainbows we may have a vaccine in 18 months, but that’s really wishful thinking - the global economy has taken an unprecedented hit, and that means many people’s jobs and financial security are going to be at further risk. This will only add to the feelings of anxiety -- but let’s be clear, it is normal to feel anxious about how the world is suddenly changing in so many ways. Learning coping skills, having strategies to feel more safe in an unknown future, and using supportive relationships are natural ways to feel better about feeling anxious.
In this episode, we hear what happened to Jocelyn Pedersen after taking a benzodiazepine for less than a week.
Jocelyn was so physically sick from the benzo brain injury, she had to spend much of the time horizontal on the floor with her baby while her neighbour’s helped with household chores. Jocelyn’s body was a complete mess: she couldn’t sleep, eat, watch tv, read, her bowels were dysfunctional and she was losing weight fast.
That’s just the start of Jocelyn’s journey with benzodiazepine medications -- a medication journey, as Jocelyn describes, that goes through madness.
Jocelyn’s health care experience is a textbook example of how the medical system pushes psychiatric medications without understanding how the meds can cause brain injury. This often leads to doctors denying side effects or withdrawal symptoms, effectively gaslighting the patient, psychologizing physical symptoms, and pathologizing human emotions.
It was a long arduous road for Jocelyn to get back to her usual high functioning self, and along the way she started sharing her experiences and what she learned and now Jocelyn has a large following on social media. On her YouTube channel Benzo Brains, Jocelyn shares real world information about benzodiazepines and strategies on successfully managing the withdrawal symptoms.
Jocelyn has just written a memoir about her experiences with benzos and the health care system called “Seeds of Hope: A Journey Through Medication and Madness Toward Meaning”.
Available on Amazon: https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1
Connect with Jocelyn Pedersen:
People can pre-order Seeds of Hope: A Journey Through Medication and Madness Toward Meaning through moongladepress.com and when it's released June 1st on Amazon.com: https://t.co/267G0VaBiz?amp=1My channel is YouTube.com/c/BenzoBrainsSome other helpful resources are benzoreform.orgbenzoinfo.combenzo.org.uk/manualcouncilforsustainablehealing.org
SHOW NOTES:
 
About Jocelyn Pedersen: After experiencing a severe injury to her brain and body from prescription medications, Jocelyn co-founded the non-profit, Benzodiazepine Information Coalition. She is a speaker at CME's and continuing education courses for doctors and healthcare providers on the dangers of benzodiazepines and how to help patients safely withdraw. Jocelyn is also subject in the upcoming As Prescribed documentary film and the author of Seeds of Hope: a Journey through medication and madness toward meaning. When she's not busy managing her Benzo Brains YouTube channel or serving as an advisor to The Alliance for Benzodiazepine Best Practices and The Council for Sustainable Healing, you can find her rocking out to big band music and forcing her kids to watch MGM musicals with her.
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Imagine back to when you had a bad flu. Remember the nausea, head spins, pain and soreness, vomiting and diarrhea, and crushing fatigue? Remember how the worst lasted for a few days? Now imagine having that flu for a few weeks. Or a few months. Or like Jeffery Smith, for a few decades.</p>
<p>Now think of the millions of COVID patients. A good number of the survivors are not fully recovering from this ‘flu’ bug. They remain sick for weeks. Soon they will have been sick for months. And if they are unlucky like Jeffery, they may be permanently sick and disabled, and the health care system will effectively abandon them.</p>
<p>Most doctors didn’t take Jeff’s ongoing flu symptoms seriously, dismissing them and subtextually blaming Jeff for being emotionally weak, or not trying hard enough, or not really wanting to be healthy. You know, gaslighting. So when Jeff started to have bowel symptoms, he didn’t tell his doctor. Who needs to be invalidated and gaslighted?</p>
<p>But it turned out Jeff had a tumour and needed surgery and suddenly the health care he received was empathic, prompt and validating. A stark contrast to the years of dismissal and gaslighting of his flu symptoms.</p>
<p>As Jeff explains, the tumour for which he received exemplary care only impacted his quality of life a fraction compared to how the never ending flu shattered his future. And as the COVID deaths and infections continue to rise, the people who do not recover may also experience disbelieving doctors, and a health care system that doesn’t care.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:06:00
Jeff grew up in a small hockey town in Campbellford in Canada - and Campbellford in the 70s was more like the 50s, it was an alternate universe
0:07:00
Jeff's childhood was traumatic - he was gay living in a small town wherebody played sports or worked on the farm, where Jeff liked to watch old movies, like with Lauren Bacall, and draw their dresses - so school wasn't a safe place, and home wasn't safe because his mother had emotional issues and had a traumatic childhood, so Jeff didn't feel safe at school or home
0:08:00
Jeff didn't feel safe until he moved to Toronto for college - he was not liked by other kids because he was 'other' - but when he came to college he was suddenly popular even though he was the same person, so that was confusing and fascinating - Jeff always thought he'd not live long
0:09:00
Jeff was very sick as a child - 9 convulsions before he was 5 - doctors found Jeff had really bad allergies - they put an air conditioner in his bedroom, and Jeff felt better in the room so spent much of his time there, especially in the summer - if he went outside the heat would cause convulsions - so as a boy, Jeff got in his head he wouldn't live long
0:10:00
In grade 9 Jeff missed 3 months of school due to the flu - he started allergy shots when he was 5 years old - those helped, and the convulsions stopped
0:11:00
But in grade 9, the non-stop flu for 3 months came with fever, swollen glands, etc - when Jeff got over that and everything was okay until he got mononucleosis at age 19, during the summer
0:12:00
For 2 months Jeff couldn't really lift his head off the pillow - he had to pee in a pail beside him - it lasted 2 years of fevers, night chills - it was 1985 and the AIDS pandemic was just emerging and Jeff thought he must have AIDS, even though he'd never had sex
0:13:00
So doctors could see by Jeff's symptoms including swollen glands, that he was sick, they just didn't know why - it was rought to transition during the mono to move from home to Toronto and go to college
0:14:00
Jeff would go to school and crawl into bed after - so it was challenging, but he loved the subjects and the positive attention and learned some of his own value - Jeff remembers wondering if he had irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) because of the diarrhea, easily 10 times a day, every day for 2 years - so that meant leaving class, getting up in the middle of lunch, etc - yet trying to appear healthy and normal
0:15:00
But life was really good - trying to find a career, had lots of friends - Jeff's health was okay during this period, from 21 to 30 with okay-ish, but some bad periods with bad allergies - including missing 3 weeks one time
0:16:00
One time Jeff bought a plant, but didn't realize for weeks that that was what was making him sick - but Jeff was told my different doctors he had 'post viral malaise' - Jeff was working in a bank to earn a living
0:17:00
Then he met his partner, who would become his husband, and that's when his life really started - Jeff was 24 when they met, and Jeff was enjoying relatively good health - Jeff's allergies are anything in the environment, plants, trees, grass are the worse - he was on shots for 24 years and tested regularly
0:18:00
Jeff always scored the highest on allergy testing for grass, trees, mold, pets - Jeff lived on daily allergy pills for decades - the weather changes really affect Jeff too - so its really bad now, in the spring - it also affects his immune system
0:19:00
Jeff's immune system has been over worked since birth, so he's interested in how that realtes to mast cells - in Sept 1996 Jeff caught the flu, the regular bad flu
0:20:00
That flu has been with Jeff every day since Sept 1996 - Jeff says that if you think back to when you had the bad flu and remember how you felt - head spinning when you were not laying down, having to hold onto things - chills in your body, pain, dizzy, fatigue - fatigue so bad that you wait 20 minutes to turn over - if people can remember those feelings, and that that lasted maybe 3 days
0:21:00
Take that to 3 weeks and nothing changing, nothing getting better - then try to imagine getting up, putting on clothes while you're sweating, holding onto the sink - getting yourself to the bus, streetcar, subway, but not having the energy to stand, and having to lean - trying to make it through the work day, but not meeting your obligations, cognitively or energy wise -- now extend that 3 weeks to 3 months and you're still not better and people at work are saying your performance is down
0:22:00
And your doctor at 6 months keeps saying post viral malaise - but you can barely work, cannot watch an hour tv show - but its been 23 fucking years at that level for Jeff, with full on flu - so that's the only way Jeff can describe what happened to him in Sept 1996
0:23:00
Jeff has the same flu symptoms, some more severe, as 23 years ago - that is Jeff's reality - Jeff describes his symptoms as a constant orchestra
0:24:00
Jeff used to have good days and bad days, but now he has perhaps a few good hours each week, and the rest is bad
0:25:00
Jeff's had 3 GPs, plus lots of specialists -- but the GP at that time - 1996, pulled out a list that said 'Chronic Fatigue Syndrome' - Jeff did not have constant sore throats, but had all the other symptoms, but the doctor said that Jeff could not possibly have CFS if he did not have a sore throat
0:26:00
The doctor said Jeff had 'nerves' and some people just aren't as emotionally strong as others, and life is hard, and so what you need is a psychotherapist and a relaxation class
0:27:00
Jeff was so sick and desperate and grabbing at straws, so Jeff did therapy and relaxation classes - while they didn't help his physical health, they did help in other ways
0:28:00
But not one of them has moved his illness 1 per cent - Jeff's doctor retired, and his new GP took Jeff more seriously and sent Jeff for other testing - but there was always the overarching theory that the problem was Jeff: he was gay, overly sensitive
0:29:00
Jeff has learned through this health journey everyone wants to put you in a box - but if people had of paid attention to 'chronic fatigue syndrome' instead of calling it 'yuppie flu', he wouldn't have lost a quarter century of his life - Scott says that many people with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) have it develop from a flu that never went away
0:30:00
The COVID patients who do not recover are showing ME symptoms - however, it is less likely their symptoms will be dismissed with psychological bullshit because of the global onset - Jeff says from the SARS pandemic we learned that 17% of patients could not return to work at all, and 87% of not fully recovered
0:31:00
With milloins infected with COVID, without a doubt many more people will be sick with ME - COVID could be the best thing to happen to ME - there are already about 600,000 Canadians with ME
0:32:00
But there are many more people who are not diagnosed - Jeff remembers a woman from his childhood who was sick in bed for 30 years, and nobody knew why, but the narrative was that it was because she was a woman
0:33:00
Jeff feels for how this woman must have been so misunderstood for all those years - while therapy helped Jeff with his emotional life, it did nothing for his physical symptoms
0:34:00
Therapy does not stop Epstein Barr Virus from replicating in your body - even Jeff and his husband thought maybe Jeff was just really depressed but didn't know it - but every sign indicated jeff wasn't depressed - he enjoyed activities, his friends, he was optimistic - he was sick in bed and sad, sad because he was sick and in bed, not because he was sad
0:35:00
One of the elements of ME is bowel problems and IBS - in the late 2000s Jeff started to experience IBS symptoms again - but with ME, because it is multi-system, the habit is to attribute any symptom to ME, and to not tell you doctor because of the 'eye roll', as in 'here he is again'
0:36:00
Jeff got to the point where he was thinking, 'no one can help me, I don't want to be looked at as crazy, so he didn't mention it to his doctor - Jeff ignored the symptoms until he couldn't ignore them anymore - his doctor sent him for a colonscopy and they found something
0:37:00
Jeff was diagnosed with a rectal tumour and he had to have a bowel resection operation - basically they removed 95% of his rectum and he was on an ostomy bag for 6 months, but then had a 'reversal' operation and doesn't have the ostomy bag anymore - but the tumour only impacted about 20-30% as much as the ME
0:38:00
But as soon as he got that diagnosis, it was like he was in another world, another twilight zone, another life because he received help, understanding, empathy, support - it was strange compared to ME health care - Jeff really needed the reversal surgery because of the time and energy it takes to use the ostomy bag, clean, change while standing up
0:39:00
Jeff has POTS as well, so standing is a real challenge - he had a nurse for a while for the ostomy bag, but the real problem was the ME, and there was no help for that - Scott says there are 2 health systems: if you have cancer, or HIV, or a broken leg, you can usually get pretty good care - but if you have ME or something else they don't know about, you get pretty shitty care
0:40:00
When they don't have a pill or an operation, they says its in your head and they think they've cured you, they just don't want to tell somebody "I don't know' - if somebody had of said that to Jeff, his life would have changed - he wouldn't have spent 25 years beating himself up as not being good enough, not trying hard enough - Scott asks Jeff when he knew he was being gaslighted?
0:41:00
Jeff says when he saw the 'chronic fatigue syndrome' list of symptoms and he had them all except one, he figured he had it and that was in the back of his mind, but he always responded to whatever the doctors said was the problem - but the epiphany was around 2015-16 when Jeff went to Stanford chronic fatigue syndrome clinic (aka ME) in California - so 20 years after the flu started
0:42:00
When Jeff got to Stanford he first saw a nurse practitioner who had reviewed Jeff's file, the first thing she said was 'I apologize for all the medical abuse you've received from the medical community'
0:43:00
Jeff had 20 years of grief that he never expressed, because he was never told medicine made a mistake - Jeff hugged her because he didn't know what else to do - it changed his life hearing that - Jeff paid for an expensive panel of blood work - the results showed Epstain Barr Virus higher than anyone they'd ever seen at the clinic
0:44:00
For the first time Jeff forgave himself for not trying hard enough - all those years of struggling to work, only to be remprimanded for not doing well enough - Jeff took a moment to recognize that he did all that even though he was so fucking sick, and sicker today because of it - getting the blood work back showing the infections was validating
0:45:00
The layman's interpretation of what is happening, is that the Epstein Barr Virus (EBV) is replicating every 24 hours, as its been doing for 23 years - the diagnosis all made sense - the nurse started to cry too
0:46:00
Because Jeff was steadily getting worse - and this is something often not talked about, it is the people who are too sick to have a voice, literally too ill to speak
0:47:00
Jeff has periods where talking is so draining, uses so much energy - Jeff did not leave his bed for the previous 4 days, to rest up and sit up for this interview - but Jeff says he knows of so many people who are completely bed bound and cannot communicate, even on the internet - they are still there and breathing, but they don't exist otherwise
0:48:00
Severe ME has been described as like the last days of dying of AIDS or cancer - in and out of consciousness, speak very little, just like ME
0:49:00
Jeff's friend read about the Stanford chronic fatigue syndrome clinic and told him about it - Jeff took the article to his doctor, and the doctor read the article, looked up at Jeff and said 'You have myalgic encephalomyelitis'
0:50:00
At the same time, Jeff was trying to get an appointment at the Environmental Health Clinic at a Toronto hospital - it took 3 months for Jeff's Stanford appointment, but he had to wait 19 months to get the Environmental Health Clinic - the experiences were not similar
0:51:00
Jeff had to forgive himself and the medical community - like MS was called hysterical paralysis before the MRI - and we know that how people with ME are treated by the health care system causes them to kill themselves - there is no treatment, no empathy, no hope
0:52:00
And it was at that time that Jeff started advocacy, he needed to do something, in his own way with own limited abilities - Stanford started Jeff on a mitochondrial cocktail, LDN (low dose naltrexone) and valcyclovir, an antiviral
0:53:00
Jeff was only on LDN for 2 months because he was feeling sicker - it was another 3 months be bedbound because of it
0:54:00
Jeff was on the valcyclovir for 9 months, but it took away from his health, not helped - Stanford said that the chances of improving decrease the longer someone has been ill - it cost a lot for Jeff to get treatment: flights and hotels, $1200 for the appointment, another $5000 for the testing - Jeff had to cash in some of his RSPs to pay for it
0:55:00
What the Toront Enironmental Health Clinic was helpful with, was diagnosing POTS - post orthostatic tachycardia syndrome - with a tilt table test
0:56:00
For Jeff, his heart rate goes up over 30 beats a minute when he goes from laying to standing, this is why he's dizzy when he vertical - but there no real treatment for that either
0:57:00
POTS falls under cardiology, and the big thing for POTS in cardiology is exercise, but exercise makes people with ME much sicker - the cardiologist Jeff saw was part of a national board, but they excluded people with POTS and ME, because people with ME can't exercise
0:58:00
So medically marginalized again - Scott says that people who are fairly healthy wouldn't really notice a 5% improvement in their health, but if someone is sick with ME and only has 5 or 10% functioning or quality of life, a 5% improvement is huge
0:59:00
Jeff has maybe one hour a month when he doesn't feel really sick
1:00:00
Jeff feels like his body is stuck in the 'sick' position - and that relates to researcher Robert Phair's theory that people with ME's bodies are stuck in a metabolic trap, a sickness trap
1:01:00
Jeff describes his energy as 12 cents of gas a day - going to the bathroom uses 6 cents - PEM, or post exertional malaise, is the biggest issue with ME
1:02:00
For people with ME, exercise, even walking to the end of the driveway, or lifting groceries, is never going to be good, it puts energy into a deficit, and that causes PEM, an exacerbation of ME symptoms - cognitve and emotional 'effort' can also cause PEM
1:03:00
Jeff has resigned himself that he will never get better - but he thinks understanding of ME will come, and his purpose is to push that forward so that others don't have to lose decades of their lives - Jeff hopes he doesn't get so sick that he needs to be tube fed
1:04:00
Jeff's fascinated about the responses on Facebook when he posts about ME - he's educating a lot of people - having someone at the Canadian Institute for Health Research understand ME can change the world
1:05:00
Jeff has been sitting up for an hour, so the usual crushing fatigue is worse, the room is spinning - this is a lot of effort for Jeff, the equivalent of a 50 mile jog for someone healthy
1:06:00
Scott says he used to think people who did triathlons were so tough, but they have nothing on the people who live with ME - Jeff says the sickest people with ME are the toughest people you'll ever / never meet - and they are trying to help others, even when they are so sick they can't speak - Scott says he's healthier than other people with ME, maybe because of HIV meds
1:07:00
Jeff says that others with ME, who don't have HIV, can't get access to the meds because their doctors will lose their license
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<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
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<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
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<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine back to when you had a bad flu. Remember the nausea, head spins, pain and soreness, vomiting and diarrhea, and crushing fatigue? Remember how the worst lasted for a few days? Now imagine having that flu for a few weeks. Or a few months. Or like Jeffery Smith, for a few decades.</p>
<p>Now think of the millions of COVID patients. A good number of the survivors are not fully recovering from this ‘flu’ bug. They remain sick for weeks. Soon they will have been sick for months. And if they are unlucky like Jeffery, they may be permanently sick and disabled, and the health care system will effectively abandon them.</p>
<p>Most doctors didn’t take Jeff’s ongoing flu symptoms seriously, dismissing them and subtextually blaming Jeff for being emotionally weak, or not trying hard enough, or not really wanting to be healthy. You know, gaslighting. So when Jeff started to have bowel symptoms, he didn’t tell his doctor. Who needs to be invalidated and gaslighted?</p>
<p>But it turned out Jeff had a tumour and needed surgery and suddenly the health care he received was empathic, prompt and validating. A stark contrast to the years of dismissal and gaslighting of his flu symptoms.</p>
<p>As Jeff explains, the tumour for which he received exemplary care only impacted his quality of life a fraction compared to how the never ending flu shattered his future. And as the COVID deaths and infections continue to rise, the people who do not recover may also experience disbelieving doctors, and a health care system that doesn’t care.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:06:00
Jeff grew up in a small hockey town in Campbellford in Canada - and Campbellford in the 70s was more like the 50s, it was an alternate universe
0:07:00
Jeff's childhood was traumatic - he was gay living in a small town wherebody played sports or worked on the farm, where Jeff liked to watch old movies, like with Lauren Bacall, and draw their dresses - so school wasn't a safe place, and home wasn't safe because his mother had emotional issues and had a traumatic childhood, so Jeff didn't feel safe at school or home
0:08:00
Jeff didn't feel safe until he moved to Toronto for college - he was not liked by other kids because he was 'other' - but when he came to college he was suddenly popular even though he was the same person, so that was confusing and fascinating - Jeff always thought he'd not live long
0:09:00
Jeff was very sick as a child - 9 convulsions before he was 5 - doctors found Jeff had really bad allergies - they put an air conditioner in his bedroom, and Jeff felt better in the room so spent much of his time there, especially in the summer - if he went outside the heat would cause convulsions - so as a boy, Jeff got in his head he wouldn't live long
0:10:00
In grade 9 Jeff missed 3 months of school due to the flu - he started allergy shots when he was 5 years old - those helped, and the convulsions stopped
0:11:00
But in grade 9, the non-stop flu for 3 months came with fever, swollen glands, etc - when Jeff got over that and everything was okay until he got mononucleosis at age 19, during the summer
0:12:00
For 2 months Jeff couldn't really lift his head off the pillow - he had to pee in a pail beside him - it lasted 2 years of fevers, night chills - it was 1985 and the AIDS pandemic was just emerging and Jeff thought he must have AIDS, even though he'd never had sex
0:13:00
So doctors could see by Jeff's symptoms including swollen glands, that he was sick, they just didn't know why - it was rought to transition during the mono to move from home to Toronto and go to college
0:14:00
Jeff would go to school and crawl into bed after - so it was challenging, but he loved the subjects and the positive attention and learned some of his own value - Jeff remembers wondering if he had irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) because of the diarrhea, easily 10 times a day, every day for 2 years - so that meant leaving class, getting up in the middle of lunch, etc - yet trying to appear healthy and normal
0:15:00
But life was really good - trying to find a career, had lots of friends - Jeff's health was okay during this period, from 21 to 30 with okay-ish, but some bad periods with bad allergies - including missing 3 weeks one time
0:16:00
One time Jeff bought a plant, but didn't realize for weeks that that was what was making him sick - but Jeff was told my different doctors he had 'post viral malaise' - Jeff was working in a bank to earn a living
0:17:00
Then he met his partner, who would become his husband, and that's when his life really started - Jeff was 24 when they met, and Jeff was enjoying relatively good health - Jeff's allergies are anything in the environment, plants, trees, grass are the worse - he was on shots for 24 years and tested regularly
0:18:00
Jeff always scored the highest on allergy testing for grass, trees, mold, pets - Jeff lived on daily allergy pills for decades - the weather changes really affect Jeff too - so its really bad now, in the spring - it also affects his immune system
0:19:00
Jeff's immune system has been over worked since birth, so he's interested in how that realtes to mast cells - in Sept 1996 Jeff caught the flu, the regular bad flu
0:20:00
That flu has been with Jeff every day since Sept 1996 - Jeff says that if you think back to when you had the bad flu and remember how you felt - head spinning when you were not laying down, having to hold onto things - chills in your body, pain, dizzy, fatigue - fatigue so bad that you wait 20 minutes to turn over - if people can remember those feelings, and that that lasted maybe 3 days
0:21:00
Take that to 3 weeks and nothing changing, nothing getting better - then try to imagine getting up, putting on clothes while you're sweating, holding onto the sink - getting yourself to the bus, streetcar, subway, but not having the energy to stand, and having to lean - trying to make it through the work day, but not meeting your obligations, cognitively or energy wise -- now extend that 3 weeks to 3 months and you're still not better and people at work are saying your performance is down
0:22:00
And your doctor at 6 months keeps saying post viral malaise - but you can barely work, cannot watch an hour tv show - but its been 23 fucking years at that level for Jeff, with full on flu - so that's the only way Jeff can describe what happened to him in Sept 1996
0:23:00
Jeff has the same flu symptoms, some more severe, as 23 years ago - that is Jeff's reality - Jeff describes his symptoms as a constant orchestra
0:24:00
Jeff used to have good days and bad days, but now he has perhaps a few good hours each week, and the rest is bad
0:25:00
Jeff's had 3 GPs, plus lots of specialists -- but the GP at that time - 1996, pulled out a list that said 'Chronic Fatigue Syndrome' - Jeff did not have constant sore throats, but had all the other symptoms, but the doctor said that Jeff could not possibly have CFS if he did not have a sore throat
0:26:00
The doctor said Jeff had 'nerves' and some people just aren't as emotionally strong as others, and life is hard, and so what you need is a psychotherapist and a relaxation class
0:27:00
Jeff was so sick and desperate and grabbing at straws, so Jeff did therapy and relaxation classes - while they didn't help his physical health, they did help in other ways
0:28:00
But not one of them has moved his illness 1 per cent - Jeff's doctor retired, and his new GP took Jeff more seriously and sent Jeff for other testing - but there was always the overarching theory that the problem was Jeff: he was gay, overly sensitive
0:29:00
Jeff has learned through this health journey everyone wants to put you in a box - but if people had of paid attention to 'chronic fatigue syndrome' instead of calling it 'yuppie flu', he wouldn't have lost a quarter century of his life - Scott says that many people with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) have it develop from a flu that never went away
0:30:00
The COVID patients who do not recover are showing ME symptoms - however, it is less likely their symptoms will be dismissed with psychological bullshit because of the global onset - Jeff says from the SARS pandemic we learned that 17% of patients could not return to work at all, and 87% of not fully recovered
0:31:00
With milloins infected with COVID, without a doubt many more people will be sick with ME - COVID could be the best thing to happen to ME - there are already about 600,000 Canadians with ME
0:32:00
But there are many more people who are not diagnosed - Jeff remembers a woman from his childhood who was sick in bed for 30 years, and nobody knew why, but the narrative was that it was because she was a woman
0:33:00
Jeff feels for how this woman must have been so misunderstood for all those years - while therapy helped Jeff with his emotional life, it did nothing for his physical symptoms
0:34:00
Therapy does not stop Epstein Barr Virus from replicating in your body - even Jeff and his husband thought maybe Jeff was just really depressed but didn't know it - but every sign indicated jeff wasn't depressed - he enjoyed activities, his friends, he was optimistic - he was sick in bed and sad, sad because he was sick and in bed, not because he was sad
0:35:00
One of the elements of ME is bowel problems and IBS - in the late 2000s Jeff started to experience IBS symptoms again - but with ME, because it is multi-system, the habit is to attribute any symptom to ME, and to not tell you doctor because of the 'eye roll', as in 'here he is again'
0:36:00
Jeff got to the point where he was thinking, 'no one can help me, I don't want to be looked at as crazy, so he didn't mention it to his doctor - Jeff ignored the symptoms until he couldn't ignore them anymore - his doctor sent him for a colonscopy and they found something
0:37:00
Jeff was diagnosed with a rectal tumour and he had to have a bowel resection operation - basically they removed 95% of his rectum and he was on an ostomy bag for 6 months, but then had a 'reversal' operation and doesn't have the ostomy bag anymore - but the tumour only impacted about 20-30% as much as the ME
0:38:00
But as soon as he got that diagnosis, it was like he was in another world, another twilight zone, another life because he received help, understanding, empathy, support - it was strange compared to ME health care - Jeff really needed the reversal surgery because of the time and energy it takes to use the ostomy bag, clean, change while standing up
0:39:00
Jeff has POTS as well, so standing is a real challenge - he had a nurse for a while for the ostomy bag, but the real problem was the ME, and there was no help for that - Scott says there are 2 health systems: if you have cancer, or HIV, or a broken leg, you can usually get pretty good care - but if you have ME or something else they don't know about, you get pretty shitty care
0:40:00
When they don't have a pill or an operation, they says its in your head and they think they've cured you, they just don't want to tell somebody "I don't know' - if somebody had of said that to Jeff, his life would have changed - he wouldn't have spent 25 years beating himself up as not being good enough, not trying hard enough - Scott asks Jeff when he knew he was being gaslighted?
0:41:00
Jeff says when he saw the 'chronic fatigue syndrome' list of symptoms and he had them all except one, he figured he had it and that was in the back of his mind, but he always responded to whatever the doctors said was the problem - but the epiphany was around 2015-16 when Jeff went to Stanford chronic fatigue syndrome clinic (aka ME) in California - so 20 years after the flu started
0:42:00
When Jeff got to Stanford he first saw a nurse practitioner who had reviewed Jeff's file, the first thing she said was 'I apologize for all the medical abuse you've received from the medical community'
0:43:00
Jeff had 20 years of grief that he never expressed, because he was never told medicine made a mistake - Jeff hugged her because he didn't know what else to do - it changed his life hearing that - Jeff paid for an expensive panel of blood work - the results showed Epstain Barr Virus higher than anyone they'd ever seen at the clinic
0:44:00
For the first time Jeff forgave himself for not trying hard enough - all those years of struggling to work, only to be remprimanded for not doing well enough - Jeff took a moment to recognize that he did all that even though he was so fucking sick, and sicker today because of it - getting the blood work back showing the infections was validating
0:45:00
The layman's interpretation of what is happening, is that the Epstein Barr Virus (EBV) is replicating every 24 hours, as its been doing for 23 years - the diagnosis all made sense - the nurse started to cry too
0:46:00
Because Jeff was steadily getting worse - and this is something often not talked about, it is the people who are too sick to have a voice, literally too ill to speak
0:47:00
Jeff has periods where talking is so draining, uses so much energy - Jeff did not leave his bed for the previous 4 days, to rest up and sit up for this interview - but Jeff says he knows of so many people who are completely bed bound and cannot communicate, even on the internet - they are still there and breathing, but they don't exist otherwise
0:48:00
Severe ME has been described as like the last days of dying of AIDS or cancer - in and out of consciousness, speak very little, just like ME
0:49:00
Jeff's friend read about the Stanford chronic fatigue syndrome clinic and told him about it - Jeff took the article to his doctor, and the doctor read the article, looked up at Jeff and said 'You have myalgic encephalomyelitis'
0:50:00
At the same time, Jeff was trying to get an appointment at the Environmental Health Clinic at a Toronto hospital - it took 3 months for Jeff's Stanford appointment, but he had to wait 19 months to get the Environmental Health Clinic - the experiences were not similar
0:51:00
Jeff had to forgive himself and the medical community - like MS was called hysterical paralysis before the MRI - and we know that how people with ME are treated by the health care system causes them to kill themselves - there is no treatment, no empathy, no hope
0:52:00
And it was at that time that Jeff started advocacy, he needed to do something, in his own way with own limited abilities - Stanford started Jeff on a mitochondrial cocktail, LDN (low dose naltrexone) and valcyclovir, an antiviral
0:53:00
Jeff was only on LDN for 2 months because he was feeling sicker - it was another 3 months be bedbound because of it
0:54:00
Jeff was on the valcyclovir for 9 months, but it took away from his health, not helped - Stanford said that the chances of improving decrease the longer someone has been ill - it cost a lot for Jeff to get treatment: flights and hotels, $1200 for the appointment, another $5000 for the testing - Jeff had to cash in some of his RSPs to pay for it
0:55:00
What the Toront Enironmental Health Clinic was helpful with, was diagnosing POTS - post orthostatic tachycardia syndrome - with a tilt table test
0:56:00
For Jeff, his heart rate goes up over 30 beats a minute when he goes from laying to standing, this is why he's dizzy when he vertical - but there no real treatment for that either
0:57:00
POTS falls under cardiology, and the big thing for POTS in cardiology is exercise, but exercise makes people with ME much sicker - the cardiologist Jeff saw was part of a national board, but they excluded people with POTS and ME, because people with ME can't exercise
0:58:00
So medically marginalized again - Scott says that people who are fairly healthy wouldn't really notice a 5% improvement in their health, but if someone is sick with ME and only has 5 or 10% functioning or quality of life, a 5% improvement is huge
0:59:00
Jeff has maybe one hour a month when he doesn't feel really sick
1:00:00
Jeff feels like his body is stuck in the 'sick' position - and that relates to researcher Robert Phair's theory that people with ME's bodies are stuck in a metabolic trap, a sickness trap
1:01:00
Jeff describes his energy as 12 cents of gas a day - going to the bathroom uses 6 cents - PEM, or post exertional malaise, is the biggest issue with ME
1:02:00
For people with ME, exercise, even walking to the end of the driveway, or lifting groceries, is never going to be good, it puts energy into a deficit, and that causes PEM, an exacerbation of ME symptoms - cognitve and emotional 'effort' can also cause PEM
1:03:00
Jeff has resigned himself that he will never get better - but he thinks understanding of ME will come, and his purpose is to push that forward so that others don't have to lose decades of their lives - Jeff hopes he doesn't get so sick that he needs to be tube fed
1:04:00
Jeff's fascinated about the responses on Facebook when he posts about ME - he's educating a lot of people - having someone at the Canadian Institute for Health Research understand ME can change the world
1:05:00
Jeff has been sitting up for an hour, so the usual crushing fatigue is worse, the room is spinning - this is a lot of effort for Jeff, the equivalent of a 50 mile jog for someone healthy
1:06:00
Scott says he used to think people who did triathlons were so tough, but they have nothing on the people who live with ME - Jeff says the sickest people with ME are the toughest people you'll ever / never meet - and they are trying to help others, even when they are so sick they can't speak - Scott says he's healthier than other people with ME, maybe because of HIV meds
1:07:00
Jeff says that others with ME, who don't have HIV, can't get access to the meds because their doctors will lose their license
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<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Imagine back to when you had a bad flu. Remember the nausea, head spins, pain and soreness, vomiting and diarrhea, and crushing fatigue? Remember how the worst lasted for a few days? Now imagine having that flu for a few weeks. Or a few months. Or like Jeffery Smith, for a few decades.
Now think of the millions of COVID patients. A good number of the survivors are not fully recovering from this ‘flu’ bug. They remain sick for weeks. Soon they will have been sick for months. And if they are unlucky like Jeffery, they may be permanently sick and disabled, and the health care system will effectively abandon them.
Most doctors didn’t take Jeff’s ongoing flu symptoms seriously, dismissing them and subtextually blaming Jeff for being emotionally weak, or not trying hard enough, or not really wanting to be healthy. You know, gaslighting. So when Jeff started to have bowel symptoms, he didn’t tell his doctor. Who needs to be invalidated and gaslighted?
But it turned out Jeff had a tumour and needed surgery and suddenly the health care he received was empathic, prompt and validating. A stark contrast to the years of dismissal and gaslighting of his flu symptoms.
As Jeff explains, the tumour for which he received exemplary care only impacted his quality of life a fraction compared to how the never ending flu shattered his future. And as the COVID deaths and infections continue to rise, the people who do not recover may also experience disbelieving doctors, and a health care system that doesn’t care.
SHOW NOTES:
0:06:00
Jeff grew up in a small hockey town in Campbellford in Canada - and Campbellford in the 70s was more like the 50s, it was an alternate universe
0:07:00
Jeff's childhood was traumatic - he was gay living in a small town wherebody played sports or worked on the farm, where Jeff liked to watch old movies, like with Lauren Bacall, and draw their dresses - so school wasn't a safe place, and home wasn't safe because his mother had emotional issues and had a traumatic childhood, so Jeff didn't feel safe at school or home
0:08:00
Jeff didn't feel safe until he moved to Toronto for college - he was not liked by other kids because he was 'other' - but when he came to college he was suddenly popular even though he was the same person, so that was confusing and fascinating - Jeff always thought he'd not live long
0:09:00
Jeff was very sick as a child - 9 convulsions before he was 5 - doctors found Jeff had really bad allergies - they put an air conditioner in his bedroom, and Jeff felt better in the room so spent much of his time there, especially in the summer - if he went outside the heat would cause convulsions - so as a boy, Jeff got in his head he wouldn't live long
0:10:00
In grade 9 Jeff missed 3 months of school due to the flu - he started allergy shots when he was 5 years old - those helped, and the convulsions stopped
0:11:00
But in grade 9, the non-stop flu for 3 months came with fever, swollen glands, etc - when Jeff got over that and everything was okay until he got mononucleosis at age 19, during the summer
0:12:00
For 2 months Jeff couldn't really lift his head off the pillow - he had to pee in a pail beside him - it lasted 2 years of fevers, night chills - it was 1985 and the AIDS pandemic was just emerging and Jeff thought he must have AIDS, even though he'd never had sex
0:13:00
So doctors could see by Jeff's symptoms including swollen glands, that he was sick, they just didn't know why - it was rought to transition during the mono to move from home to Toronto and go to college
0:14:00
Jeff would go to school and crawl into bed after - so it was challenging, but he loved the subjects and the positive attention and learned some of his own value - Jeff remembers wondering if he had irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) because of the diarrhea, easily 10 times a day, every day for 2 years - so that meant leaving class, getting up in the middle of lunch, etc - yet trying to appear healthy and normal
0:15:00
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        <title>Larry &amp; Jane (part 2): Profit and Punishment: profiteering hospitals intersect with religious bigotry</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>A quick recap - in part 1 of the interview, Larry was having chest pain and his wife Jane drove him to the hospital, where he was diagnosed with a heart attack and sent by air ambulance to another hospital, a Catholic hospital, where they were met with hostility and a chaplain determined to keep Jane and her son from seeing Larry.</p>
<p>At the end of part 1, Jane was blocking the Cathlolic hospital’s chaplain from coming into a meeting with the doctor about Larry’s medical care and condition, and things are about to get even stranger….and more frightening...</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:

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0:04:00
They got to the doctor's office, and again Jane asks the chaplain to go away - she put her arm across the door and said I don't want you in here, you have to leave now - but he came in sat down - then a doctor came in and 1st thing he says is 'I don't want to be here, I am tired, I want to be at home, I don't want to be here' - the doctor says 'I'm supposed to show you this video, but I can't get it to work - I'm tired and want to go home - do you really need to see it - do you have any questions?' - Jane says 'no', and the doctor leaves
0:05:00
Jane sees 2 women wheeling Larry - but the women looked mean and disgusted, and Jane stepped back - the chaplain said he'd escort Jane and her son back to the waiting room
0:06:00
the chaplain said Larry would be free for visitors in about 15 minutes, and that the chaplain would be right back - 2 hours went by and no word from any one - Jane was shocked by the whole situation
0:07:00
Jane was told that she would have to go because visiting hours were over - she found out later their policy is one person can stay overnight
0:08:00
Larry was left naked from the waist down until the next nurse came on shift - Larry woke periodically to feel a touch on his genitals, or the sound of laughter
0:09:00
When the next nurse, a male nurse, came on shift, Larry was covered after that - according to records, about 6am with the female nurse reported that Larry woke up nauseasted and vomited on himself
0:10:00
the female nurse cleaned him up, but left him naked to go get supplies - the records show they knew the meds they gave him would make him vomit, so they prescribed an anti-nausea med, but the nurse never gave it to Larry - so he could've choked to death on his vomit
0:11:00
On Sunday Larry was still kind of out of it - the doctor had come in the morning to tell Larry about the procedure
0:12:00
Larry thought he must have been in bad shape if they had to do that procedure - when Larry and Jane talked, they realized neither of them gave permission for the procedure - Larry wanted to get out of the hospital as fast as possible
0:13:00
When Larry got home he had a shower, but he didn't want to talk to Jane about the experience - he was traumatized - he's had nightmares ever since - he can't believe what they did (cries) - it is beyond unprofessional, they intended to harm Larry
0:14:00
It wasn't until they got the hospital records that they started to piece together why Larry was treated the way he was - the first hospital did not record the pain killer they gave him, or the reactions Larry told them he had to pain meds - they also wrote down that Larry had a husband
0:15:00
So hospital #1 recorded Larry as a gay married man, and they sent him to a religious hospital that has anti-gay policy - the hospital is in a lawsuit because they refuse to perform certain services to LGBTQ people - Larry and Jane think hospital #1 was punishing Larry because he didn't want to go to their affiliate teaching hospital
0:16:00
Jane's confrontation with the nurse, was because the nurse was expecting a gay man - Larry and Jane also suspect the hospital thought their son was Larry's husband, always addressing their son, not Jane
0:17:00
At cardiac rehab, Larry told them about his abnormal responses to pain meds - cardiac rehab noted it, then crossed it out - CMS (Centre for Medical Services) told Jane doctors can do any procedure or give any drug they want, even if you have declined it
0:18:00
The ER doctor lied to them - he knew what he was doing - the 2nd hospital didn't note any of the meds Larry had already been given - they wanted to make it look like Larry had agreed to the other pain meds in their records
0:19:00
They had the chaplain gaurd Jane and her son, because the hospital had called in the cath lab team special, they were going to give Larry the prodecure, it didn't matter if he didn't want it - because the nurse thought Larry was gay, she was gaining points with hospital staff who witnessed her torture Larry - she's a predator and should not be working with any one
0:20:00
Larry doesn not have modesty with health care issues, this is a nurse who used her power and authority while Larry was drugged and wasn't able to physically or verbally stop her - Versad is a date rape drug and erases the memory - that's why the hospital thought Larry wouldn't remember anything
0:21:00
In Europe, they don't use drugs 75% of the time for this procedure, but the US to make the patients submissive and without memory - so #1 the air ambulance staff gave Larry meds without his permission, and #2 the lead doctor did not ensure a true consent was attained from Larry for the procedure
0:22:00
Now Larry has to live with the consequences of the procedure for the rest of his life - Larry now has to take medications to prevent the implancted stents from killing him, and they cause other complications: liver failure, diabetes, etc - Larry was also exposed to more radiation than protocol - Larry is a cancer survivor, so he would never have consented to that much radiation exposure
0:23:00
Jane can't believe it happened, and nobody can tell them why
0:24:00
So homophobia intersects with profiteering while denying informed consent, lying about informed consent, coupled with mulitple medical errors - in Larry's medical records it says 'his pregnancy was uneventful, and the baby is doing fine' - another section says Larry had a 6 hour procedure - another section of his records says the nurse reported she was at the 1st hospital when the put the IVs in, and had informed Jane about everything
0:25:00
Lie after lie after lie, mistake after mistake - that's the bad thing about electronic health records, the staff just go through and check boxes
0:26:00
All they do is 'click click click' - but Larry's records are so bad, they are practically useless in trying to figure out what they actually did or did not do - they say to avoid stress after a heart attack, but then the hospital loads all this unnecessary stress, like they wanted him to die because they thought he was gay
0:27:00
Jane couldn't imagine being a gay person and going for treatment at a Catholic hospital - Jane says she would crawl away rather than step foot in one of those hospitals because they use their religion to cause harm - in their hiring practices, the hospital says they have the right to supercede state and federal laws
0:28:00
Larry and Jane have not gone for trauma counselling because they don't trust them, but they recognize they both have PTSD - Jane feels guilty for not protecting Larry
0:29:00
Jane's guilt is motivating for her advocacy - but they can't get an attorney to take their case because there is no 'evidence' in the medical records of harm to Larry
0:30:00
Each hospital shold abide by the federal patient bill of rights, these were all broken in Larry's case - there could be a class action lawsuit - but attorney's won't deal with this hospital, because it is particularly vicious and aggressive
0:31:00
When Jane complained, the hospital wrote back 'if you don't like it, go somewhere else' - the doctor wrote 'if I've done something I'm sorry' - Jane asks 'what do you mean 'if'?' - you did a procedure without consent
0:32:00
The records said Larry was diabetic, but he's not - for months he got calls from companies trying to sell him diabetic supplies - his health insurer even told him to go for his diabetes check up - but he can't get them to correct his medical records
0:33:00
The doctor did a glucose test, but it was not fasting, it was during Larry's heart attack - any newbie doctor would know a glucose test at that time is useless and misleading
0:34:00
In the US insurance company gets paid for chronically ill patients, so with a diabetes label, they would have made more money - the hospital charged for 2 rooms on 1 day - CMS and the insurer didn't want to deal with the fraud, so for 6 months Jane persisted until the hospital removed the extra billing - the insurance company told Jane she caused bigger problems because they had to re-submit the bill
0:35:00
They didn't care that $3000 was stolen from them - fraud is alive and well in hospitals, they know how much they can get away with, and they do - they gave Larry 1 medication twice, 15 minutes apart, but the 2nd dose cost $25 more - they are not health care centers, they are profit making centers
0:36:00
So at least in the US, there is no such thing as patient rights - Jane has a book called "Operating Room Confidential" by Dr Paul Whang, an anaethesiologist - he writes they like to have fun with male patients - the medication they give causes penises to move and become erect - they like to bring in new nurses and say 'look what you do to him'
0:37:00
They use patients for sexual entertainment - they have no respect for patient dignity - once you've been drugged, you have no control over what they do to you
0:38:00
Larry will never go to the ER again - he had a medical encounter recently for an EKG, the medical assistant said 'strip from the waist up' - 'strip' is a word that should never be used in a medical setting, it is a sexual word - Larry froze (a PTSD symptom) and the medical assistant started to take off his shirt, but Jane yelled and stopped her
0:39:00
Jane asked the worker if Larry's record had note that he's the victim of medical sexual abuse, the medical assistant said 'no' -- so again, if the hospital doesn't want something in the patients record, it won't put it in - Jane told the worker the note was also supposed to say that Larry should receive trauma informed care - the medical assistant knew nothing of the concept
0:40:00
How men are treated in health care is very different from women - for example, when a man goes for a prostate exam, he'll be told to drop your pants and bend over the table, even if there is a female medical assistant - but how many women for a gynecological exam are told to 'drop your pants'
0:41:00
Health care is so different for men and women, and Jane is determined to change it and has become an activist
0:42:00
Jane thinks nobody should have to undergo a procedure without their consent, it is criminal, and somebody should go to jail for it, somebody should lose their license
0:43:00
If versad was given to a woman at a party, and she was undressed, and a bunch of people called in to look at and touch her, they would be arrested - but why do hospitals get away with it?
0:44:00
The consent form at the hospital says the doctor has the right to do anything the doctor feels you need - even if you've had a verbal conversation about your wishes - as soon as you sign that form, it negates your conversation
0:45:00
If Larry had of been asked to sign the consent form, he would have - as he has always done - cross out 'students, sales reps, observors' to be allowed in during a procedure - CMS said the procedure had already started before the form was completed by the medical staff
0:46:00
Larry is doing okay - not getting as much work done as before - has shortness of breath, could be side effects of meds of the stents - tired, hard to focus, that never happened before - a PTSD symptom
0:47:00
Larry gets very quiet, while Jane gets very mad - we all have different ways of dealing with trauma - Larry has nightmares - Saturday nights are hell for them, they can't see a clock
0:48:00
The medical trauma and PTSD prevents Larry and Jane from seeking trauma treatment, but cause they can't trust people in the health care field - they are considering moving to another country
0:49:00
With the COVID pandemic, all doctors are heroes - but Larry's doctor's were not heroes - how do you tell which ones are heroes?
0:50:00
There are a lot more people out there with similar experiences that we never hear about, they just accept that that is the way it is - they never examine their medical records or they would see - yet those records are the gospel to CMS or the State Attorney General or whomever should be enforcing and taking care of patients rights
0:51:00
In Indiana, the only way they can do a procedure without consent, is if the patient is unconscious and the next of kin cannot be found - but Larry was conscious and Jane was at the hospital
0:52:00
We cannot let them continue to do this, we must stand up - its our rights, its our bodies - doctors are our paid advisors, to carry out our wishes, like a server at a fast food restaurant - doctors need to learn that
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<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick recap - in part 1 of the interview, Larry was having chest pain and his wife Jane drove him to the hospital, where he was diagnosed with a heart attack and sent by air ambulance to another hospital, a Catholic hospital, where they were met with hostility and a chaplain determined to keep Jane and her son from seeing Larry.</p>
<p>At the end of part 1, Jane was blocking the Cathlolic hospital’s chaplain from coming into a meeting with the doctor about Larry’s medical care and condition, and things are about to get even stranger….and more frightening...</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:<br>
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0:04:00
They got to the doctor's office, and again Jane asks the chaplain to go away - she put her arm across the door and said I don't want you in here, you have to leave now - but he came in sat down - then a doctor came in and 1st thing he says is 'I don't want to be here, I am tired, I want to be at home, I don't want to be here' - the doctor says 'I'm supposed to show you this video, but I can't get it to work - I'm tired and want to go home - do you really need to see it - do you have any questions?' - Jane says 'no', and the doctor leaves
0:05:00
Jane sees 2 women wheeling Larry - but the women looked mean and disgusted, and Jane stepped back - the chaplain said he'd escort Jane and her son back to the waiting room
0:06:00
the chaplain said Larry would be free for visitors in about 15 minutes, and that the chaplain would be right back - 2 hours went by and no word from any one - Jane was shocked by the whole situation
0:07:00
Jane was told that she would have to go because visiting hours were over - she found out later their policy is one person can stay overnight
0:08:00
Larry was left naked from the waist down until the next nurse came on shift - Larry woke periodically to feel a touch on his genitals, or the sound of laughter
0:09:00
When the next nurse, a male nurse, came on shift, Larry was covered after that - according to records, about 6am with the female nurse reported that Larry woke up nauseasted and vomited on himself
0:10:00
the female nurse cleaned him up, but left him naked to go get supplies - the records show they knew the meds they gave him would make him vomit, so they prescribed an anti-nausea med, but the nurse never gave it to Larry - so he could've choked to death on his vomit
0:11:00
On Sunday Larry was still kind of out of it - the doctor had come in the morning to tell Larry about the procedure
0:12:00
Larry thought he must have been in bad shape if they had to do that procedure - when Larry and Jane talked, they realized neither of them gave permission for the procedure - Larry wanted to get out of the hospital as fast as possible
0:13:00
When Larry got home he had a shower, but he didn't want to talk to Jane about the experience - he was traumatized - he's had nightmares ever since - he can't believe what they did (cries) - it is beyond unprofessional, they intended to harm Larry
0:14:00
It wasn't until they got the hospital records that they started to piece together why Larry was treated the way he was - the first hospital did not record the pain killer they gave him, or the reactions Larry told them he had to pain meds - they also wrote down that Larry had a husband
0:15:00
So hospital #1 recorded Larry as a gay married man, and they sent him to a religious hospital that has anti-gay policy - the hospital is in a lawsuit because they refuse to perform certain services to LGBTQ people - Larry and Jane think hospital #1 was punishing Larry because he didn't want to go to their affiliate teaching hospital
0:16:00
Jane's confrontation with the nurse, was because the nurse was expecting a gay man - Larry and Jane also suspect the hospital thought their son was Larry's husband, always addressing their son, not Jane
0:17:00
At cardiac rehab, Larry told them about his abnormal responses to pain meds - cardiac rehab noted it, then crossed it out - CMS (Centre for Medical Services) told Jane doctors can do any procedure or give any drug they want, even if you have declined it
0:18:00
The ER doctor lied to them - he knew what he was doing - the 2nd hospital didn't note any of the meds Larry had already been given - they wanted to make it look like Larry had agreed to the other pain meds in their records
0:19:00
They had the chaplain gaurd Jane and her son, because the hospital had called in the cath lab team special, they were going to give Larry the prodecure, it didn't matter if he didn't want it - because the nurse thought Larry was gay, she was gaining points with hospital staff who witnessed her torture Larry - she's a predator and should not be working with any one
0:20:00
Larry doesn not have modesty with health care issues, this is a nurse who used her power and authority while Larry was drugged and wasn't able to physically or verbally stop her - Versad is a date rape drug and erases the memory - that's why the hospital thought Larry wouldn't remember anything
0:21:00
In Europe, they don't use drugs 75% of the time for this procedure, but the US to make the patients submissive and without memory - so #1 the air ambulance staff gave Larry meds without his permission, and #2 the lead doctor did not ensure a true consent was attained from Larry for the procedure
0:22:00
Now Larry has to live with the consequences of the procedure for the rest of his life - Larry now has to take medications to prevent the implancted stents from killing him, and they cause other complications: liver failure, diabetes, etc - Larry was also exposed to more radiation than protocol - Larry is a cancer survivor, so he would never have consented to that much radiation exposure
0:23:00
Jane can't believe it happened, and nobody can tell them why
0:24:00
So homophobia intersects with profiteering while denying informed consent, lying about informed consent, coupled with mulitple medical errors - in Larry's medical records it says 'his pregnancy was uneventful, and the baby is doing fine' - another section says Larry had a 6 hour procedure - another section of his records says the nurse reported she was at the 1st hospital when the put the IVs in, and had informed Jane about everything
0:25:00
Lie after lie after lie, mistake after mistake - that's the bad thing about electronic health records, the staff just go through and check boxes
0:26:00
All they do is 'click click click' - but Larry's records are so bad, they are practically useless in trying to figure out what they actually did or did not do - they say to avoid stress after a heart attack, but then the hospital loads all this unnecessary stress, like they wanted him to die because they thought he was gay
0:27:00
Jane couldn't imagine being a gay person and going for treatment at a Catholic hospital - Jane says she would crawl away rather than step foot in one of those hospitals because they use their religion to cause harm - in their hiring practices, the hospital says they have the right to supercede state and federal laws
0:28:00
Larry and Jane have not gone for trauma counselling because they don't trust them, but they recognize they both have PTSD - Jane feels guilty for not protecting Larry
0:29:00
Jane's guilt is motivating for her advocacy - but they can't get an attorney to take their case because there is no 'evidence' in the medical records of harm to Larry
0:30:00
Each hospital shold abide by the federal patient bill of rights, these were all broken in Larry's case - there could be a class action lawsuit - but attorney's won't deal with this hospital, because it is particularly vicious and aggressive
0:31:00
When Jane complained, the hospital wrote back 'if you don't like it, go somewhere else' - the doctor wrote 'if I've done something I'm sorry' - Jane asks 'what do you mean 'if'?' - you did a procedure without consent
0:32:00
The records said Larry was diabetic, but he's not - for months he got calls from companies trying to sell him diabetic supplies - his health insurer even told him to go for his diabetes check up - but he can't get them to correct his medical records
0:33:00
The doctor did a glucose test, but it was not fasting, it was during Larry's heart attack - any newbie doctor would know a glucose test at that time is useless and misleading
0:34:00
In the US insurance company gets paid for chronically ill patients, so with a diabetes label, they would have made more money - the hospital charged for 2 rooms on 1 day - CMS and the insurer didn't want to deal with the fraud, so for 6 months Jane persisted until the hospital removed the extra billing - the insurance company told Jane she caused bigger problems because they had to re-submit the bill
0:35:00
They didn't care that $3000 was stolen from them - fraud is alive and well in hospitals, they know how much they can get away with, and they do - they gave Larry 1 medication twice, 15 minutes apart, but the 2nd dose cost $25 more - they are not health care centers, they are profit making centers
0:36:00
So at least in the US, there is no such thing as patient rights - Jane has a book called "Operating Room Confidential" by Dr Paul Whang, an anaethesiologist - he writes they like to have fun with male patients - the medication they give causes penises to move and become erect - they like to bring in new nurses and say 'look what you do to him'
0:37:00
They use patients for sexual entertainment - they have no respect for patient dignity - once you've been drugged, you have no control over what they do to you
0:38:00
Larry will never go to the ER again - he had a medical encounter recently for an EKG, the medical assistant said 'strip from the waist up' - 'strip' is a word that should never be used in a medical setting, it is a sexual word - Larry froze (a PTSD symptom) and the medical assistant started to take off his shirt, but Jane yelled and stopped her
0:39:00
Jane asked the worker if Larry's record had note that he's the victim of medical sexual abuse, the medical assistant said 'no' -- so again, if the hospital doesn't want something in the patients record, it won't put it in - Jane told the worker the note was also supposed to say that Larry should receive trauma informed care - the medical assistant knew nothing of the concept
0:40:00
How men are treated in health care is very different from women - for example, when a man goes for a prostate exam, he'll be told to drop your pants and bend over the table, even if there is a female medical assistant - but how many women for a gynecological exam are told to 'drop your pants'
0:41:00
Health care is so different for men and women, and Jane is determined to change it and has become an activist
0:42:00
Jane thinks nobody should have to undergo a procedure without their consent, it is criminal, and somebody should go to jail for it, somebody should lose their license
0:43:00
If versad was given to a woman at a party, and she was undressed, and a bunch of people called in to look at and touch her, they would be arrested - but why do hospitals get away with it?
0:44:00
The consent form at the hospital says the doctor has the right to do anything the doctor feels you need - even if you've had a verbal conversation about your wishes - as soon as you sign that form, it negates your conversation
0:45:00
If Larry had of been asked to sign the consent form, he would have - as he has always done - cross out 'students, sales reps, observors' to be allowed in during a procedure - CMS said the procedure had already started before the form was completed by the medical staff
0:46:00
Larry is doing okay - not getting as much work done as before - has shortness of breath, could be side effects of meds of the stents - tired, hard to focus, that never happened before - a PTSD symptom
0:47:00
Larry gets very quiet, while Jane gets very mad - we all have different ways of dealing with trauma - Larry has nightmares - Saturday nights are hell for them, they can't see a clock
0:48:00
The medical trauma and PTSD prevents Larry and Jane from seeking trauma treatment, but cause they can't trust people in the health care field - they are considering moving to another country
0:49:00
With the COVID pandemic, all doctors are heroes - but Larry's doctor's were not heroes - how do you tell which ones are heroes?
0:50:00
There are a lot more people out there with similar experiences that we never hear about, they just accept that that is the way it is - they never examine their medical records or they would see - yet those records are the gospel to CMS or the State Attorney General or whomever should be enforcing and taking care of patients rights
0:51:00
In Indiana, the only way they can do a procedure without consent, is if the patient is unconscious and the next of kin cannot be found - but Larry was conscious and Jane was at the hospital
0:52:00
We cannot let them continue to do this, we must stand up - its our rights, its our bodies - doctors are our paid advisors, to carry out our wishes, like a server at a fast food restaurant - doctors need to learn that
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<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[A quick recap - in part 1 of the interview, Larry was having chest pain and his wife Jane drove him to the hospital, where he was diagnosed with a heart attack and sent by air ambulance to another hospital, a Catholic hospital, where they were met with hostility and a chaplain determined to keep Jane and her son from seeing Larry.
At the end of part 1, Jane was blocking the Cathlolic hospital’s chaplain from coming into a meeting with the doctor about Larry’s medical care and condition, and things are about to get even stranger….and more frightening...
SHOW NOTES:
0:04:00
They got to the doctor's office, and again Jane asks the chaplain to go away - she put her arm across the door and said I don't want you in here, you have to leave now - but he came in sat down - then a doctor came in and 1st thing he says is 'I don't want to be here, I am tired, I want to be at home, I don't want to be here' - the doctor says 'I'm supposed to show you this video, but I can't get it to work - I'm tired and want to go home - do you really need to see it - do you have any questions?' - Jane says 'no', and the doctor leaves
0:05:00
Jane sees 2 women wheeling Larry - but the women looked mean and disgusted, and Jane stepped back - the chaplain said he'd escort Jane and her son back to the waiting room
0:06:00
the chaplain said Larry would be free for visitors in about 15 minutes, and that the chaplain would be right back - 2 hours went by and no word from any one - Jane was shocked by the whole situation
0:07:00
Jane was told that she would have to go because visiting hours were over - she found out later their policy is one person can stay overnight
0:08:00
Larry was left naked from the waist down until the next nurse came on shift - Larry woke periodically to feel a touch on his genitals, or the sound of laughter
0:09:00
When the next nurse, a male nurse, came on shift, Larry was covered after that - according to records, about 6am with the female nurse reported that Larry woke up nauseasted and vomited on himself
0:10:00
the female nurse cleaned him up, but left him naked to go get supplies - the records show they knew the meds they gave him would make him vomit, so they prescribed an anti-nausea med, but the nurse never gave it to Larry - so he could've choked to death on his vomit
0:11:00
On Sunday Larry was still kind of out of it - the doctor had come in the morning to tell Larry about the procedure
0:12:00
Larry thought he must have been in bad shape if they had to do that procedure - when Larry and Jane talked, they realized neither of them gave permission for the procedure - Larry wanted to get out of the hospital as fast as possible
0:13:00
When Larry got home he had a shower, but he didn't want to talk to Jane about the experience - he was traumatized - he's had nightmares ever since - he can't believe what they did (cries) - it is beyond unprofessional, they intended to harm Larry
0:14:00
It wasn't until they got the hospital records that they started to piece together why Larry was treated the way he was - the first hospital did not record the pain killer they gave him, or the reactions Larry told them he had to pain meds - they also wrote down that Larry had a husband
0:15:00
So hospital #1 recorded Larry as a gay married man, and they sent him to a religious hospital that has anti-gay policy - the hospital is in a lawsuit because they refuse to perform certain services to LGBTQ people - Larry and Jane think hospital #1 was punishing Larry because he didn't want to go to their affiliate teaching hospital
0:16:00
Jane's confrontation with the nurse, was because the nurse was expecting a gay man - Larry and Jane also suspect the hospital thought their son was Larry's husband, always addressing their son, not Jane
0:17:00
At cardiac rehab, Larry told them about his abnormal responses to pain meds - cardiac rehab noted it, then crossed it out - CMS (Centre for Medical Services) told Jane doctors can do any procedure or give]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>Larry &amp; Jane (part 1): Profit and Punishment: profiteering hospitals intersect with religious bigotry</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When Larry was doubled over with chest pain, his wife Jane drove him to the nearest ER where he was diagnosed with a heart attack. </p>
<p>The health care Larry received over the next few hours was motivated by profit and punishment. At each turn, hospitals sought to maximize their profits, including fraud and falsified medical records, on the treatment Larry received. </p>
<p>The hospital staff made choices, always the most expensive choice - like sending Larry to another hospital by air ambulance instead of road ambulance, or choosing high cost, highly invasive medical procedures over the least costly, least invasive medication Larry actually requested. In spite of Larry repeatedly stating he only wanted a minimum dose of pain killers, the hospital injected him with multiple pain killers, rendering him incapable of making informed consent.</p>
<p>Larry was air transported to the local Cathlolic hospital. While much of this was going on, Jane and their son were intentionally and overtly being kept away from Larry by the hospital chaplain -- and while the chaplain was receiving updates on Larry’s condition, he wasn’t sharing the info with Jane and their son. Hours went by and during that time, Jane repeatedly asked the chaplain to leave so she and her son could have some privacy and speak freely. He refused each time. Jane couldn’t understand why the staff were being so openly hostile toward her and her son.</p>
<p>The next day, Larry couldn’t understand why the staff had ignored his statement to be treated with medication, and instead implanted several costly devices in his body. Devices that cause side effects and will probably contribute to his death.</p>
<p>But when Larry and Jane got a hold of Larry’s medical records, they began to understand that his hospital care and treatment was not based on his medical need, it was based on profit and religious punishment. But the punishment was actually started by the first hospital as Larry and Jane share in the medical experience with multiple layers: profiteering, medical errors, negligence, religious bigotry, fraud, homophobia, deceit and denial. </p>
<p>If you thought hospitals were benevolent and their staff empathetic, you will think differently when you hear all that happened to Larry and Jane in part 1 of my interview….</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:06:00
Larry (a pseudonym, as is Jane's name) grew up in Indiana - his father was a contractor in the construction industry with one brother, and a half brother and sister - health child with normal measles, mumps, poison ivy
0:07:00
Jane grew up in central Indiana - her father worked for the a big pharmaceutical company - when her parents got divorced, life was hell because they fought constantly even though they were divorced - Jane met Larry through work, she worked for the State and Larry was doing a contract computer job
0:08:00
They've been married since 1987 - they have a son who is a teacher, and a daughter who is in business with Jane, doing specialty sewing -- On August 11, 2018, a Saturday night about 7pm
0:09:00
Jane found Larry on the floor with chest pains and difficulty breathing - pain level about 7 out of 10 -- Jeane said they had to go to the hospital, but Larry wasn't keen
0:10:00
Larry has always been healthy, so not in the habit of seeking medical attention - Larry thought maybe it was indigestion from dinner
0:11:00
Larry wasn't having pain down his arm or irregular heart beat, his blood pressure was fine
0:12:00
The pain was for about 8 - 10 minutes before Jane found him
0:13:00
They live in the country so drove the local hospital - when Larry got to the ER his pain was 6 / 10
0:14:00
They admitted him right away - first thing Larry did was tell them he was very sensitive to pain killers and didn't want any fentynal, versad or anything like that - the doctor if he would accept a small amount of morphine, so Larry agreed to that - but he told the doctor that in the past pain meds had messed with his blood pressure
0:15:00
Pain meds raise his blood pressure, cause erratic breathing, cause nausea - after the morphine, Larry's pain was 1 / 10, a dull ache
0:16:00
They did diagnosis a heart attack, but said they were not equipped and that Larry would have to go to another hospital - Larry decided to go to the hospital that had a heart center
0:17:00
Larry was told he would have 3 options for treatment: open heart surgery -- or angioplasty - or medicines to bust the clots -- Larry said he'd prefer to try the drugs first - the doctor said Larry could discuss with the doctors at the heart hospital - Larry said that Jane needed to be there for major decisions
0:18:00
The morphine made Larry a little slow on thinking - he would find out later they had given him 4mg - the doctor said he would order transportation to the other hospital, he'd call both an ambulance and helicopter and whoever arrived first would take Larry - but according to the hospital records, they never called an ambulanc, even though the EMTs were just down the street
0:19:00
Jane checked with the EMTs later, and they were available and could have taken Larry - but Larry believes the hospital chose the air ambulance because it belongs to the hospital and is more expensive
0:20:00
It took almost an hour before the air ambulance arrived with pilot and 2 medical workers - they asked Larry is pain level, he said 'one' - he found out later they wrote down 'eight'
0:21:00
But the ER doc had noted Larry's pain as 'one' after the morphine
0:22:00
They loaded Larry into the helicopter - Jane and their son started to drive to the other hospital - in the helicopter, Larry wore sound defeaning ear protectors - the paramedics did not speak to him, but noted in their records his pain was 8 / 10
0:23:00
In their records it shows they gave Larry, without his knowledge or consent, a 100 mcg of fentanyl - Larry was out of it, he didn't know what was happening - he thought he must be dying, he felt like he was above his body - this continued until late Sunday - he was incoherent and can only remeber bits and pieces - but basically like a zombie
0:24:00
Larry does remember when the helicopter landed, there was no one to meet them - the paramedics waved down an employee in the parking lot, who let them in a side door - they wandered around the hospital looking for the 'cath lab'
0:25:00
When they got to the cath lab, with the pilot observing, they put Larry on a steel table - they had already given him to IV ports, one in each arm - the female nurses in the room didn't speak to Larry, but started stripping his clothes off
0:26:00
Larry would find out later they dumped his clothes in a red haz (hazardous material) mat bag - Larry was out of it, his arms felt like lead - fentynal also paralyzes and makes patients compliant
0:27:00
Larry could hear the doctors and nurses talking - someone said to send a Chaplain to the family and Larry wondered if he was dead - he was scared, wanted Jane
0:28:00
According to the records, Larry was left naked on the table for about 25 minutes, they never spoke to him - but their records said his pain was 5 / 10, but Larry wasn't feeling any pain - Larry heard one of them say they would have to shave Larry, so he thought he must still be alive, but why would they want to shave him?
0:29:00
They put 2 more IV ports in his arms, so that he had 2 in each arm, but there was nothing in the record - he could hear them talking and laughing
0:30:00
Larry found in his record a consent form that stated that Larry had verbally stated that he was having an 'emergent cath', but he did not even know that term at that time - but Larry did not say that, and their records showed him 'alert X3' - but they had given him 4mg of morphine and 150mcg of fentanyl and 1mg of versad
0:31:00
CMS (Centre for Medicare / Medicaid Services - government watch dog) admitted the consent form had only been completed after Larry had been drugged - but CMS also said no reasonable person would say no to gold standard treatment
0:32:00
In the medical records, one doctor said he thought they should just put Larry in a room for observation, but the hospital had already called in the cath team (cath team: xray above steel table, from groin to chin)
0:33:00
They go in through the wrist if they are experienced, otherwise in through the groin, as happend to Larry - they insert flexible wire with camera on the end after shooting dye into your system, known as angiogram - and angioplasty is when they go in and bust blood clots, or open an artery with a balloon, aka PCI except put in metal stent
0:34:00
stents have a habit of forming plaque and platelts and blockage and probably heart attack
0:35:00
Larry was cold, didn't know what was going on, pressure from xray machine, and also immense pressure in his groin as they pushed the tools up through his arteries - when all is said and done, they put 2 stents in Larry that will probably kill him at some point in time - another artery was 38% blocked, but they didn't do anything with it, they will save it til later - for another costly operation
0:36:00
so Larry is naked on the cath table, so cold he's shaking - the records show that Larry's blood pressure dropped severely at that time, Larry went into cardiagenic shock, which is low blood pressure for more than 30 minutes
0:37:00
Larry and Jane don't think it was cardiogenic shock, they think it had to do with the massive amount of fentanyl - they were also doing a procedure to clear out the clots at that time, so it could have contributed - the doctor who did the procedure was new, just learning
0:38:00
The nurse told Larry that they were going to put suture's into Larry and that it would hurt - they sutured 3 different places, because they also implanted a pump to help his heart, they sutured to the inside of his leg - as well as sutured a pacemaker into the inside of his other leg
0:39:00
They didn't use a numbing agent for the sutures - Jane says it seemed like they enjoyed inflicting that pain - this would become apparent later when they got the medical records
0:40:00
After suturing they moved Larry onto a gurney with a sheet over him and took him into the hall where he caught a glimpse of Jane and their son - they moved Larry to the CCU - coronary care unit
0:41:00
They moved Larry onto a bed but the nurse was flustered because the gown Larry was in was not the right gown for CCU, so she ran off leaving Larry naked again - she found a gown and put it on Larry, but only from his navel up to his chin - she was trying to hook up the equipment
0:42:00
She was complaining about too many wires, not enough connections, she didn't know how to do it - then the room fills up with IT techs and more nurses - the nurse told Larry to urinate and if he couldn't, she would put a catheter up his penis - so Larry peed into a bottle in front of a room of people as look on and talked and laughed - then the nurse showed the people how she was cleaning up Larry like a baby, and they laughed
0:43:00
It is hard to reconcile the juxtaposition of Larry perhaps dying from a heart attack, and the laughter of the hospital staff in the same room and context
0:44:00
A woman asked Larry if his spouse sexually molested him - but Larry felt like he'd just been sexually molested and felt humiliated and wanted Jane - he could finally hear her voice and she was having a tense conversation with the nurse about who his spouse was - the nurse then pulled the sheet up to cover Larry' genitals
0:45:00
The staff put Jane and her son in a waiting room, and told it would be 15 minutes - 2 hours went by - but there was hardly anyone in the hospital, but their son grabbed a nurse
0:46:00
She started laughing at him 'I know who you're here to see' - she told them how to get to Larry's room, but was laughing the whole time - Jane went towards Larry's room, while their son went to fetch his diabetic medicine from the waiting room
0:47:00
As Jane gets to Larry's room, she can see the sheet is only covering Larry from his navel up - the nurse turned smiling, but when she saw Jane she told Jane to get out - Jane said 'why, I'm his wife' - 'no you're not' - Jane said "I am'
0:48:00
The nurse starts laughing again and adjusting the sheet on Larry, saying 'there was a room full of people, I didn't know how to hook up the equipment', laughing the whole time
0:49:00
When Jane and her son arrived at the hospital, they were told that Larry was not there and were told to stand aside - the staff whispered among themselves and then yelled across the room that he was in the cath lab and they would send a chaplain - a nasty looking man in a polyester suit said he'd take Jane and her son to the waiting room
0:50:00
Jane tells the chaplain that they were fine and he could go - he said no, he'd stay - Jane repeated that she preferred that he left, but he refused - Jane and her son wanted to talk privately, but he wouldn't leave
0:51:00
The chaplain's phone rang, it had it on speaker phone - Jane could hear the person on the other end refer to Larry - but the chaplain walked away so Jane couldn't hear any more - he then said they were working on Larry - this happened 3 times - the 3rd time the chaplain said the doctor was ready to speak to Jane and her son - They got to the doctor's office, and again Jane asks the chaplain to go away - she put her arm across the door and said I don't want you in here, you have to leave now
<p>Part 2 of the interview with Larry and Jane next week.</p>
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<p></p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Larry was doubled over with chest pain, his wife Jane drove him to the nearest ER where he was diagnosed with a heart attack. </p>
<p>The health care Larry received over the next few hours was motivated by profit and punishment. At each turn, hospitals sought to maximize their profits, including fraud and falsified medical records, on the treatment Larry received. </p>
<p>The hospital staff made choices, always the most expensive choice - like sending Larry to another hospital by air ambulance instead of road ambulance, or choosing high cost, highly invasive medical procedures over the least costly, least invasive medication Larry actually requested. In spite of Larry repeatedly stating he only wanted a minimum dose of pain killers, the hospital injected him with multiple pain killers, rendering him incapable of making informed consent.</p>
<p>Larry was air transported to the local Cathlolic hospital. While much of this was going on, Jane and their son were intentionally and overtly being kept away from Larry by the hospital chaplain -- and while the chaplain was receiving updates on Larry’s condition, he wasn’t sharing the info with Jane and their son. Hours went by and during that time, Jane repeatedly asked the chaplain to leave so she and her son could have some privacy and speak freely. He refused each time. Jane couldn’t understand why the staff were being so openly hostile toward her and her son.</p>
<p>The next day, Larry couldn’t understand why the staff had ignored his statement to be treated with medication, and instead implanted several costly devices in his body. Devices that cause side effects and will probably contribute to his death.</p>
<p>But when Larry and Jane got a hold of Larry’s medical records, they began to understand that his hospital care and treatment was not based on his medical need, it was based on profit and religious punishment. But the punishment was actually started by the first hospital as Larry and Jane share in the medical experience with multiple layers: profiteering, medical errors, negligence, religious bigotry, fraud, homophobia, deceit and denial. </p>
<p>If you thought hospitals were benevolent and their staff empathetic, you will think differently when you hear all that happened to Larry and Jane in part 1 of my interview….</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:06:00
Larry (a pseudonym, as is Jane's name) grew up in Indiana - his father was a contractor in the construction industry with one brother, and a half brother and sister - health child with normal measles, mumps, poison ivy
0:07:00
Jane grew up in central Indiana - her father worked for the a big pharmaceutical company - when her parents got divorced, life was hell because they fought constantly even though they were divorced - Jane met Larry through work, she worked for the State and Larry was doing a contract computer job
0:08:00
They've been married since 1987 - they have a son who is a teacher, and a daughter who is in business with Jane, doing specialty sewing -- On August 11, 2018, a Saturday night about 7pm
0:09:00
Jane found Larry on the floor with chest pains and difficulty breathing - pain level about 7 out of 10 -- Jeane said they had to go to the hospital, but Larry wasn't keen
0:10:00
Larry has always been healthy, so not in the habit of seeking medical attention - Larry thought maybe it was indigestion from dinner
0:11:00
Larry wasn't having pain down his arm or irregular heart beat, his blood pressure was fine
0:12:00
The pain was for about 8 - 10 minutes before Jane found him
0:13:00
They live in the country so drove the local hospital - when Larry got to the ER his pain was 6 / 10
0:14:00
They admitted him right away - first thing Larry did was tell them he was very sensitive to pain killers and didn't want any fentynal, versad or anything like that - the doctor if he would accept a small amount of morphine, so Larry agreed to that - but he told the doctor that in the past pain meds had messed with his blood pressure
0:15:00
Pain meds raise his blood pressure, cause erratic breathing, cause nausea - after the morphine, Larry's pain was 1 / 10, a dull ache
0:16:00
They did diagnosis a heart attack, but said they were not equipped and that Larry would have to go to another hospital - Larry decided to go to the hospital that had a heart center
0:17:00
Larry was told he would have 3 options for treatment: open heart surgery -- or angioplasty - or medicines to bust the clots -- Larry said he'd prefer to try the drugs first - the doctor said Larry could discuss with the doctors at the heart hospital - Larry said that Jane needed to be there for major decisions
0:18:00
The morphine made Larry a little slow on thinking - he would find out later they had given him 4mg - the doctor said he would order transportation to the other hospital, he'd call both an ambulance and helicopter and whoever arrived first would take Larry - but according to the hospital records, they never called an ambulanc, even though the EMTs were just down the street
0:19:00
Jane checked with the EMTs later, and they were available and could have taken Larry - but Larry believes the hospital chose the air ambulance because it belongs to the hospital and is more expensive
0:20:00
It took almost an hour before the air ambulance arrived with pilot and 2 medical workers - they asked Larry is pain level, he said 'one' - he found out later they wrote down 'eight'
0:21:00
But the ER doc had noted Larry's pain as 'one' after the morphine
0:22:00
They loaded Larry into the helicopter - Jane and their son started to drive to the other hospital - in the helicopter, Larry wore sound defeaning ear protectors - the paramedics did not speak to him, but noted in their records his pain was 8 / 10
0:23:00
In their records it shows they gave Larry, without his knowledge or consent, a 100 mcg of fentanyl - Larry was out of it, he didn't know what was happening - he thought he must be dying, he felt like he was above his body - this continued until late Sunday - he was incoherent and can only remeber bits and pieces - but basically like a zombie
0:24:00
Larry does remember when the helicopter landed, there was no one to meet them - the paramedics waved down an employee in the parking lot, who let them in a side door - they wandered around the hospital looking for the 'cath lab'
0:25:00
When they got to the cath lab, with the pilot observing, they put Larry on a steel table - they had already given him to IV ports, one in each arm - the female nurses in the room didn't speak to Larry, but started stripping his clothes off
0:26:00
Larry would find out later they dumped his clothes in a red haz (hazardous material) mat bag - Larry was out of it, his arms felt like lead - fentynal also paralyzes and makes patients compliant
0:27:00
Larry could hear the doctors and nurses talking - someone said to send a Chaplain to the family and Larry wondered if he was dead - he was scared, wanted Jane
0:28:00
According to the records, Larry was left naked on the table for about 25 minutes, they never spoke to him - but their records said his pain was 5 / 10, but Larry wasn't feeling any pain - Larry heard one of them say they would have to shave Larry, so he thought he must still be alive, but why would they want to shave him?
0:29:00
They put 2 more IV ports in his arms, so that he had 2 in each arm, but there was nothing in the record - he could hear them talking and laughing
0:30:00
Larry found in his record a consent form that stated that Larry had verbally stated that he was having an 'emergent cath', but he did not even know that term at that time - but Larry did not say that, and their records showed him 'alert X3' - but they had given him 4mg of morphine and 150mcg of fentanyl and 1mg of versad
0:31:00
CMS (Centre for Medicare / Medicaid Services - government watch dog) admitted the consent form had only been completed after Larry had been drugged - but CMS also said no reasonable person would say no to gold standard treatment
0:32:00
In the medical records, one doctor said he thought they should just put Larry in a room for observation, but the hospital had already called in the cath team (cath team: xray above steel table, from groin to chin)
0:33:00
They go in through the wrist if they are experienced, otherwise in through the groin, as happend to Larry - they insert flexible wire with camera on the end after shooting dye into your system, known as angiogram - and angioplasty is when they go in and bust blood clots, or open an artery with a balloon, aka PCI except put in metal stent
0:34:00
stents have a habit of forming plaque and platelts and blockage and probably heart attack
0:35:00
Larry was cold, didn't know what was going on, pressure from xray machine, and also immense pressure in his groin as they pushed the tools up through his arteries - when all is said and done, they put 2 stents in Larry that will probably kill him at some point in time - another artery was 38% blocked, but they didn't do anything with it, they will save it til later - for another costly operation
0:36:00
so Larry is naked on the cath table, so cold he's shaking - the records show that Larry's blood pressure dropped severely at that time, Larry went into cardiagenic shock, which is low blood pressure for more than 30 minutes
0:37:00
Larry and Jane don't think it was cardiogenic shock, they think it had to do with the massive amount of fentanyl - they were also doing a procedure to clear out the clots at that time, so it could have contributed - the doctor who did the procedure was new, just learning
0:38:00
The nurse told Larry that they were going to put suture's into Larry and that it would hurt - they sutured 3 different places, because they also implanted a pump to help his heart, they sutured to the inside of his leg - as well as sutured a pacemaker into the inside of his other leg
0:39:00
They didn't use a numbing agent for the sutures - Jane says it seemed like they enjoyed inflicting that pain - this would become apparent later when they got the medical records
0:40:00
After suturing they moved Larry onto a gurney with a sheet over him and took him into the hall where he caught a glimpse of Jane and their son - they moved Larry to the CCU - coronary care unit
0:41:00
They moved Larry onto a bed but the nurse was flustered because the gown Larry was in was not the right gown for CCU, so she ran off leaving Larry naked again - she found a gown and put it on Larry, but only from his navel up to his chin - she was trying to hook up the equipment
0:42:00
She was complaining about too many wires, not enough connections, she didn't know how to do it - then the room fills up with IT techs and more nurses - the nurse told Larry to urinate and if he couldn't, she would put a catheter up his penis - so Larry peed into a bottle in front of a room of people as look on and talked and laughed - then the nurse showed the people how she was cleaning up Larry like a baby, and they laughed
0:43:00
It is hard to reconcile the juxtaposition of Larry perhaps dying from a heart attack, and the laughter of the hospital staff in the same room and context
0:44:00
A woman asked Larry if his spouse sexually molested him - but Larry felt like he'd just been sexually molested and felt humiliated and wanted Jane - he could finally hear her voice and she was having a tense conversation with the nurse about who his spouse was - the nurse then pulled the sheet up to cover Larry' genitals
0:45:00
The staff put Jane and her son in a waiting room, and told it would be 15 minutes - 2 hours went by - but there was hardly anyone in the hospital, but their son grabbed a nurse
0:46:00
She started laughing at him 'I know who you're here to see' - she told them how to get to Larry's room, but was laughing the whole time - Jane went towards Larry's room, while their son went to fetch his diabetic medicine from the waiting room
0:47:00
As Jane gets to Larry's room, she can see the sheet is only covering Larry from his navel up - the nurse turned smiling, but when she saw Jane she told Jane to get out - Jane said 'why, I'm his wife' - 'no you're not' - Jane said "I am'
0:48:00
The nurse starts laughing again and adjusting the sheet on Larry, saying 'there was a room full of people, I didn't know how to hook up the equipment', laughing the whole time
0:49:00
When Jane and her son arrived at the hospital, they were told that Larry was not there and were told to stand aside - the staff whispered among themselves and then yelled across the room that he was in the cath lab and they would send a chaplain - a nasty looking man in a polyester suit said he'd take Jane and her son to the waiting room
0:50:00
Jane tells the chaplain that they were fine and he could go - he said no, he'd stay - Jane repeated that she preferred that he left, but he refused - Jane and her son wanted to talk privately, but he wouldn't leave
0:51:00
The chaplain's phone rang, it had it on speaker phone - Jane could hear the person on the other end refer to Larry - but the chaplain walked away so Jane couldn't hear any more - he then said they were working on Larry - this happened 3 times - the 3rd time the chaplain said the doctor was ready to speak to Jane and her son - They got to the doctor's office, and again Jane asks the chaplain to go away - she put her arm across the door and said I don't want you in here, you have to leave now
<p>Part 2 of the interview with Larry and Jane next week.</p>
<p>Connect with <a href='https://twitter.com/JR88510759'>Larry and Jane on Twitter </a></p>
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<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p></p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When Larry was doubled over with chest pain, his wife Jane drove him to the nearest ER where he was diagnosed with a heart attack. 
The health care Larry received over the next few hours was motivated by profit and punishment. At each turn, hospitals sought to maximize their profits, including fraud and falsified medical records, on the treatment Larry received. 
The hospital staff made choices, always the most expensive choice - like sending Larry to another hospital by air ambulance instead of road ambulance, or choosing high cost, highly invasive medical procedures over the least costly, least invasive medication Larry actually requested. In spite of Larry repeatedly stating he only wanted a minimum dose of pain killers, the hospital injected him with multiple pain killers, rendering him incapable of making informed consent.
Larry was air transported to the local Cathlolic hospital. While much of this was going on, Jane and their son were intentionally and overtly being kept away from Larry by the hospital chaplain -- and while the chaplain was receiving updates on Larry’s condition, he wasn’t sharing the info with Jane and their son. Hours went by and during that time, Jane repeatedly asked the chaplain to leave so she and her son could have some privacy and speak freely. He refused each time. Jane couldn’t understand why the staff were being so openly hostile toward her and her son.
The next day, Larry couldn’t understand why the staff had ignored his statement to be treated with medication, and instead implanted several costly devices in his body. Devices that cause side effects and will probably contribute to his death.
But when Larry and Jane got a hold of Larry’s medical records, they began to understand that his hospital care and treatment was not based on his medical need, it was based on profit and religious punishment. But the punishment was actually started by the first hospital as Larry and Jane share in the medical experience with multiple layers: profiteering, medical errors, negligence, religious bigotry, fraud, homophobia, deceit and denial. 
If you thought hospitals were benevolent and their staff empathetic, you will think differently when you hear all that happened to Larry and Jane in part 1 of my interview….
SHOW NOTES:
0:06:00
Larry (a pseudonym, as is Jane's name) grew up in Indiana - his father was a contractor in the construction industry with one brother, and a half brother and sister - health child with normal measles, mumps, poison ivy
0:07:00
Jane grew up in central Indiana - her father worked for the a big pharmaceutical company - when her parents got divorced, life was hell because they fought constantly even though they were divorced - Jane met Larry through work, she worked for the State and Larry was doing a contract computer job
0:08:00
They've been married since 1987 - they have a son who is a teacher, and a daughter who is in business with Jane, doing specialty sewing -- On August 11, 2018, a Saturday night about 7pm
0:09:00
Jane found Larry on the floor with chest pains and difficulty breathing - pain level about 7 out of 10 -- Jeane said they had to go to the hospital, but Larry wasn't keen
0:10:00
Larry has always been healthy, so not in the habit of seeking medical attention - Larry thought maybe it was indigestion from dinner
0:11:00
Larry wasn't having pain down his arm or irregular heart beat, his blood pressure was fine
0:12:00
The pain was for about 8 - 10 minutes before Jane found him
0:13:00
They live in the country so drove the local hospital - when Larry got to the ER his pain was 6 / 10
0:14:00
They admitted him right away - first thing Larry did was tell them he was very sensitive to pain killers and didn't want any fentynal, versad or anything like that - the doctor if he would accept a small amount of morphine, so Larry agreed to that - but he told the doctor that in the past pain meds had messed with his blood pressure
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        <title>Howard Bloom (part 2): Einstein, Michael Jackson and ME/cfs -- How Howard beat chronic fatigue syndrome</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>At the end of part 1 of my interview with the iconic Howard Bloom, he’d just told us about getting the flu, but instead of getting better in a few days, he got much sicker.  Nobody who gets the flu thinks that they will not recover -- we all assume we’ll feel crappy for a few days and then get back to work -- just like how we initially thought survivors of the COVID virus would get back to their pre-COVID health, but now we’re hearing reports of ongoing fatigue and neurological symptoms in a significant number of people who have had COVID.</p>
<p>Research of the SARS pandemic and other viral infections, tells us that not everyone will recover -- some people will develop myalgic encephalomyelitis (aks chronic fatigue syndrome), or ME/cfs, like Howard did.</p>
<p>As the COVID pandemic settles into our nations and neighbourhoods and we wait for treatments or a vaccine, we have to wonder how many people with COVID will remain very sick and disabled by ME/cfs? And will you be one of them?</p>
<p>Now here’s part 2 of my interview with Howard Bloom, the author of the newly released ‘Einstein, Michael Jackson and me’, as Howard shares how he coped with being mostly bed bound for 15 years, and what protocol he uses to keep himself pursuing truth in science.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
<p> </p>
0:05:00
Howard can't even remember being at work on Monday - about noon on Tuesday he told his colleagues they had to get him out of the office immediately because soon he'd be too weak to walk upstairs - his staff literally dragged him to the car to take him home - he doesn't know how he made it upstairs to his 4th floor apartment because he was so weak - Howard was too sick to leave his bedroom for 3 months - often too weak to think and too weak to speak
0:06:00
And the Howard got better, he thought it must have been a really bad flu - Howard did not see a doctor during this time, he was too weak, and doctors stopped making house calls - when Howard got better he went to see a fancy doctor who gave him a fancy diagnosis of Duchenne Syndrome (muscular dystrophy), but he was wrong - Howard got back to walking every day
0:07:00
One day Howard had John Mellencamp playing at Madison Square Gardens, The Scorpions playing at The Meadowlands and opening for Metallica, and Cyndi Lauper was graduating from high school, she had dropped out, but she was getting an Honorary Diploma - so Howard had a very busy day
0:08:00
"That day broke me" - he had strange, unbelievable symptoms - if it was 90 degrees out, he'd be freezing, shivering, teeth chattering - a breeze from an open window would hit Howard hard, so he had to forbid people from opening windows, even on 90 degree days - on 40 degree days, he'd be overheating and sweating - his thermoregulatory system was broken - he had no idea what the fuck was happening to him
0:09:00
At some point Howard went to his family doctor, who could not diagnose him - Howard told his staff he didn't know what was wrong with him, he could be dying, but he couldn't work any more and gave them the business - the next day he was offered $350,000 for the business, but he declined
0:10:00
Howard finished 2 weeks of work, went to his bedroom and didn't come out for 15 years for all intents and purposes - Howard did some research and told his doctor he thought he had chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) - the doctor said there is no such thing as CFS - but 3 years later to doctor thanked Howard for educating him on CFS, because he'd been seeing it in a lot of his patients
0:11:00
Howard says that when you have an illness with no name, you are not on the map of humanity - so it is scary to have CFS and because it is scary to others, they don't even acknowledge it - if you lose the ability to walk, Howard lost the ability to speak for 5 years, not a single syllable - he also couldn't have another person in the room with him - when things like that happen, you lose connection to humanity
0:12:00
You are stripped of a sense of being human, and before that you were not even aware of that sense, but you know it when its gone - Howard said it is more unsettling than he can describe - it took Howard 3 years to re-build an identity, in the only place he could 'walk' around: cyber space
0:13:00
The 1st 3 years of being sick and bed bound, Howard tried to work at home but kept relapsing and having to start at zero again and try to build up his ability - but he was getting worse, and his 'recovery' less so each time - then he realized he was spending a lot of energy sitting up
0:14:00
By saving energy by not sitting up, Howard eventually got his voice back - Howard had his assistant set up 2 computers by his bed and jerry-rigged some foam to support the keyboard so Howard could see and use it as he lay horizontal
0:15:00
This allowed Howard to connect with the outside world - this was 1991, so no world wide web, no search engines, no Amazon
0:16:00
Through a friend, Howard took a non-paying job with Art College in Pasadena and they had created a virtual world that Howard could get into and 'walk around' using his cursor and mouse pad - he also discovered online romance - most days he could type, but not always could he lift his fingers
0:17:00
Howard became a Lothario online - he realized we get bodies we did not choose - but online we are untethered from our bodies, Howard thought that was astonishing - during those 15 years he founded 2 international science groups and wrote 3 books - but he was in solitary confinement and that produces pain of a kind no one else has experienced
0:18:00
They are a nightmare, torture, hideous because we are built for social contact
0:19:00
Howard's life was built on books, his obligation to society was books - 'books were me' - so Howard only had 2 things: his books and his marriage - then in 1994 his wife decided to divorce him - she had been leaving town to look after her mother with Alzheimer's, but leaving Howard alone for up to 3 days - it was more horrible than Howard can convey in words
0:20:00
Howard begged her not leave him alone for long periods, but she started leaving him alone longer - soon she left Howard and he found 2 people who would live in his former step daughter's bedroom and they would feed and cloth him
0:21:00
One day his wife, Linda, came to visit him, unannounced - Linda brought a lawyer with her who served Howard with divorce papers - stressful situations drove Howard's body into relapse - but Howard read the papers anyway
0:22:00
It said if you don't answer in 20 days you lose everything including the bedsheets you're lying on - his wife had brought him a Teddy bear and said she wanted to be friends - he's never spoken to her since, that was their Pearl Harbor - Howard managed to find a lawyer even though he could barely talk
0:23:00
Howard's lawyer asked for a disability exemption to attend court, but it was denied - he was too sick to travel many hours to the court from New York city to northern New York state and it would take him 3 months to recover - the judge didn't give a shit - because CFS didn't exist, it meant Howard wasn't ill
0:24:00
This caused Howard immense emotional pain, he wanted to disappear - so one night he took 120 valiums and 15 thorazine and lidocaine
0:25:00
Howard injected all 5g of the lidocaine - but he only did intramuscular and not intravenous - for 3 days he laid in bed like a corpse
0:26:00
The only muscle that moved for 3 days was his diaphragm - if blood stops circulating you're in trouble - Howard woke up 3 days later
0:27:00
He found blood had come out his chest and neck - if he wasn't a Jewish Atheist, he could've applied for Sainthood in the Catholic church - and he's lost the use of 3 limbs because of ischemia, lack of circulation - he could only use his right hand - his doctor made a house call - he said he wanted to send Howard for 7 tests - Howard said 'fuck that, I can't even get up and down my stairs'
0:28:00
He told the doctor to give him 4 days to get the use of his limbs back - Howard learned how to stand and balance - by jerking his hips forward he could do a semblance of walking - he started by walking to his living room and back, and increased the frequency by 1 each day until he got to 9 miles on the pedometer
0:29:00
His theory was that if he worked his legs everyday to overcome the eschemia, he'd get the blood flow back to his limbs, and he did get their use back - Howard was put in touch with a journalist who had been raised by evangelical parents who were trying to put rock n roll out of business
0:30:00
Howard said he could be interviewed on Christmas day, because Howard would feel especially lonely on that day - he was working for Disinformation.com, and it was headed by Richard Metzger - Howard looked him up and saw he interviewed extreme people
0:31:00
Howard called him up and said 'do you want to walk with a walking corpse? - Come to my apartment at 1pm tonight' - Richard came and talked and took notes until 6am and wrote "I have met God, Bloom is the Einstein, Newton and Darwin of the 21st century'
0:32:00
When Howard got sick, there was no info about CFS - there was an article by Hillary Johnson that had appeared in Rolling Stone about Epstein Barr virus - he thought it sounded horrible, but that he wouldn't get it....but he got it.
0:33:00
Then they found it wasn't causing CFS - Howard says that to the best of his knowledge, they still don't know what causes CFS - for Howard, any stressors would cause a relapse, so he avoided stress as much as possible - of course the divorce was a major stressor
0:34:00
So he would watch Golden Girls and read humour books - but sometimes the 'crisis' in the Golden Girls would set off Howard's stress response and it would take him 3 months to recover from an episode of Golden Girls - he tried to read the blandest writing, like James Thurber
0:35:00
Howard loves Thurber's books - one was about dogs, he loved it...until he got to page 98 when he described a dog fight, and that flattened Howard for 4 months - its hard for people who've never had the experience to conceptualize how conflict on a tv show can cause months of physical disability - but Howard has a theory based on what drugs helped him
0:36:00
We have a stress handling system and like many things in the body it works on a Cheritonian System, a balance between and excitor and an inhibitor
0:37:00
Next time a loud noise happens, check your cognitive system: it is alarmed trying to figure out what it is - our bodies have glutamate, a chemical stimulant - we also have an inhibitor called gaba - Howard started taking valium
0:38:00
He says you have a 20 minute window after a stress response to do something about it or you are fucked - but if you take valium you can avoid a relapse - but if you miss that 20 minute window, you'll be sick for months, too weak to do anything - eventually he convinced his doctor to give him oxytocin, which helped
0:39:00
Then Howard started on gabapentin - valium, oxytocin and gabapentin all feed into the gaba system, the inhibitor - so Howard's system was in hyperdrive all the time, there was no inhibitor - sometimes Howard had to take 27 valium at a time
0:40:00
At that same time the Journal of American Medical Association came out with a cover story saying sometimes an overdose of a drug could be what they need to come back to normal - Howard now takes 30 different drugs and supplements twice a day, it takes about 30 minutes - some he injects intramuscularly, like magnesium, 1 cc of oxytocin, and 2 cc of B12 methylcobalamin - has been on the regime since about 1998
0:41:00
And slowly, slowly, slowly these drugs helped him recover from CFS - by 2003 he was able to get out of the house - during the previous 15 years he had repeatedly worked his way up, adding one step at a time, until he could climb the 4 stories in his house, and then he started adding 20 feet at time on his sidewalk, but then he's have a relapse - that happened maybe 3 times during those 15 years
0:42:00
But once he got the drugs he was able to work up to 6 miles a day - Howard doesn't know of anyone else taking his regime - one day when Howard was at his 'CFS' doctor, the doctor showed him off to other patients as an example of what the doctor could do - but he was misleading them, because what he suggested was not what Howard takes - in fact, Howard found the things the doctor used to be useless
0:43:00
Howard took a very scientific approach to finding what worked - monitoring what worked, what didn't - one day a good friend contacted Howard and said the Duchess of Kent has what you have, can you write her a letter about how to cope with it - so Howard wrote a pamphlet, 16 pages - and had it updated in 2003 - realizing with CFS you have a very limited amount of energy and if you exceed it you're in big trouble
0:44:00
Howard's wife convinced Dr Derek Enlander to come see Howard - there was Dr Susan Levine too, but she required CFS patients to come into her office - 'fuck that, does she not know anything about CFS patients'
0:45:00
The most important thing Dr Enlander did was hand Howard a piece of paper with an email address of a patient in Texas - Howard contacted her and they searched online for treatment modalities
0:46:00
She would track down the doctor using the protocol and get that info back to his doctor - the doctor would sit on it for 6 months, then burp it back up as his own idea and then prescribe it
0:47:00
By experimenting, eventually Howard figured out what worked and that's why he was able to get out of bed in 2003 and resume a normal life - each day he does 1220 pseudo push ups each day, they are closer to planking
0:48:00
Howard also walks 5 miles a day, that is huge for 76 years old - and he's stronger in many ways than when he was 19 - he feels stronger and better then ever in his life, and is free of the clinical depression
0:49:00
Howard thinks it may be the gabapentin as it has shown antidepressant qualities - with CFS you have to be aware of your energy boundaries and do not cross them or you are fucked
0:50:00
Howard took a chance and was the key note speaker at a conference - Howard has a theoretical physics colleague in Moscow, and the 2 of them had been invited to address an audience of quantum phsycicists in Moscow - quantum physics is Howard, it would be like a home coming, there was no way he was going to miss it
0:51:00
Howard flew to Germany to catch another plane to Moscow - half way through the flight he started to experience CFS symptoms, by the time the plane landed, he was in bad shape - he could only lie down in the infirmary if he gave up his passport, very scary
0:52:00
Howard was so sick and desperate, he gave them his passport - then Howard realized he forgot to take his afternoon medicines - to took his gabapentin and 15 minutes later all his symptoms disappeared
0:53:00
That was in 2005 and the last time Howard had a relapse, he learned his lesson - he carries gabapentin with always - Howard says it is possible to overcome CFS, he started taking them in 1998, and it took 5 years for the drugs to accumulatively work
0:54:00
Howard tried to tell the medical establishment about his recovery and regime - but Howard says the last thing in the world he wants to write about is CFS, he's out of those woods, out of that nightmare, he doesn't want to go back
0:55:00
Although Howard been published in 12 different fields, he has no desire to research CFS - his goal is to cover many disciplines and to see the big picture, that's his task in life, that's his job
0:56:00
Howard says Dr Enlander was one of the doctors who popularized the term myaglic encephalomyelitis (ME) - Scott says his energy is flagging due to ME and explains how there is no equivalency between ME and HIV (if you get HIV meds)
0:57:00
JB (he connected Howard and Scott) wanted to know about your sleep regime - Howard says sleep was very important, one of the things that got him healthy - he had insomnia since he was 13 years old, but it got worse with the CFS - then he did a perceptual flip: instead of trying to make his body his sleep for 8 hours according to societal construct - Howard decided to 'listen to my fucking body' - he now sleeps in 2 four hour sleeps
0:58:00
He sleeps as soon as his head hits the pillow, so it turns out listening to his body is good - and if it wants 2 doses of 4 hours, so be it, and fuck the norm - he sets an alarm to wake him up
0:59:00
Howard has also adjusted his sleep pattern to communicate easier with his girlfriend in South Africa - Howard is 75 years old but he is not old, 'fuck that'
1:00:00
Founder of The Cars rock band, Ric Ocasek died about 6 months ago at the age of 75 - Howard realized that if he had of died at 75 he's never known the amazing, astonishing, ecstasy that he experiences with his girlfriend, the first time in his life - this experience is the closest to the divine he's ever experienced in his life
1:01:00
She's 50 years old, but Howard's previous girlfriend was 21 when they got together - so his current girlfriend is more age appropriate - Howard says, but never let age get you
1:02:00
Howard's new book: "Einstein, Michael Jackson and me" - its about a spiritual journey and is funny and filled with adventures and his spiritual journey in the rock and roll industry
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<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of part 1 of my interview with the iconic Howard Bloom, he’d just told us about getting the flu, but instead of getting better in a few days, he got much sicker.  Nobody who gets the flu thinks that they will not recover -- we all assume we’ll feel crappy for a few days and then get back to work -- just like how we initially thought survivors of the COVID virus would get back to their pre-COVID health, but now we’re hearing reports of ongoing fatigue and neurological symptoms in a significant number of people who have had COVID.</p>
<p>Research of the SARS pandemic and other viral infections, tells us that not everyone will recover -- some people will develop myalgic encephalomyelitis (aks chronic fatigue syndrome), or ME/cfs, like Howard did.</p>
<p>As the COVID pandemic settles into our nations and neighbourhoods and we wait for treatments or a vaccine, we have to wonder how many people with COVID will remain very sick and disabled by ME/cfs? And will you be one of them?</p>
<p>Now here’s part 2 of my interview with Howard Bloom, the author of the newly released ‘Einstein, Michael Jackson and me’, as Howard shares how he coped with being mostly bed bound for 15 years, and what protocol he uses to keep himself pursuing truth in science.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
<p> </p>
0:05:00
Howard can't even remember being at work on Monday - about noon on Tuesday he told his colleagues they had to get him out of the office immediately because soon he'd be too weak to walk upstairs - his staff literally dragged him to the car to take him home - he doesn't know how he made it upstairs to his 4th floor apartment because he was so weak - Howard was too sick to leave his bedroom for 3 months - often too weak to think and too weak to speak
0:06:00
And the Howard got better, he thought it must have been a really bad flu - Howard did not see a doctor during this time, he was too weak, and doctors stopped making house calls - when Howard got better he went to see a fancy doctor who gave him a fancy diagnosis of Duchenne Syndrome (muscular dystrophy), but he was wrong - Howard got back to walking every day
0:07:00
One day Howard had John Mellencamp playing at Madison Square Gardens, The Scorpions playing at The Meadowlands and opening for Metallica, and Cyndi Lauper was graduating from high school, she had dropped out, but she was getting an Honorary Diploma - so Howard had a very busy day
0:08:00
"That day broke me" - he had strange, unbelievable symptoms - if it was 90 degrees out, he'd be freezing, shivering, teeth chattering - a breeze from an open window would hit Howard hard, so he had to forbid people from opening windows, even on 90 degree days - on 40 degree days, he'd be overheating and sweating - his thermoregulatory system was broken - he had no idea what the fuck was happening to him
0:09:00
At some point Howard went to his family doctor, who could not diagnose him - Howard told his staff he didn't know what was wrong with him, he could be dying, but he couldn't work any more and gave them the business - the next day he was offered $350,000 for the business, but he declined
0:10:00
Howard finished 2 weeks of work, went to his bedroom and didn't come out for 15 years for all intents and purposes - Howard did some research and told his doctor he thought he had chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) - the doctor said there is no such thing as CFS - but 3 years later to doctor thanked Howard for educating him on CFS, because he'd been seeing it in a lot of his patients
0:11:00
Howard says that when you have an illness with no name, you are not on the map of humanity - so it is scary to have CFS and because it is scary to others, they don't even acknowledge it - if you lose the ability to walk, Howard lost the ability to speak for 5 years, not a single syllable - he also couldn't have another person in the room with him - when things like that happen, you lose connection to humanity
0:12:00
You are stripped of a sense of being human, and before that you were not even aware of that sense, but you know it when its gone - Howard said it is more unsettling than he can describe - it took Howard 3 years to re-build an identity, in the only place he could 'walk' around: cyber space
0:13:00
The 1st 3 years of being sick and bed bound, Howard tried to work at home but kept relapsing and having to start at zero again and try to build up his ability - but he was getting worse, and his 'recovery' less so each time - then he realized he was spending a lot of energy sitting up
0:14:00
By saving energy by not sitting up, Howard eventually got his voice back - Howard had his assistant set up 2 computers by his bed and jerry-rigged some foam to support the keyboard so Howard could see and use it as he lay horizontal
0:15:00
This allowed Howard to connect with the outside world - this was 1991, so no world wide web, no search engines, no Amazon
0:16:00
Through a friend, Howard took a non-paying job with Art College in Pasadena and they had created a virtual world that Howard could get into and 'walk around' using his cursor and mouse pad - he also discovered online romance - most days he could type, but not always could he lift his fingers
0:17:00
Howard became a Lothario online - he realized we get bodies we did not choose - but online we are untethered from our bodies, Howard thought that was astonishing - during those 15 years he founded 2 international science groups and wrote 3 books - but he was in solitary confinement and that produces pain of a kind no one else has experienced
0:18:00
They are a nightmare, torture, hideous because we are built for social contact
0:19:00
Howard's life was built on books, his obligation to society was books - 'books were me' - so Howard only had 2 things: his books and his marriage - then in 1994 his wife decided to divorce him - she had been leaving town to look after her mother with Alzheimer's, but leaving Howard alone for up to 3 days - it was more horrible than Howard can convey in words
0:20:00
Howard begged her not leave him alone for long periods, but she started leaving him alone longer - soon she left Howard and he found 2 people who would live in his former step daughter's bedroom and they would feed and cloth him
0:21:00
One day his wife, Linda, came to visit him, unannounced - Linda brought a lawyer with her who served Howard with divorce papers - stressful situations drove Howard's body into relapse - but Howard read the papers anyway
0:22:00
It said if you don't answer in 20 days you lose everything including the bedsheets you're lying on - his wife had brought him a Teddy bear and said she wanted to be friends - he's never spoken to her since, that was their Pearl Harbor - Howard managed to find a lawyer even though he could barely talk
0:23:00
Howard's lawyer asked for a disability exemption to attend court, but it was denied - he was too sick to travel many hours to the court from New York city to northern New York state and it would take him 3 months to recover - the judge didn't give a shit - because CFS didn't exist, it meant Howard wasn't ill
0:24:00
This caused Howard immense emotional pain, he wanted to disappear - so one night he took 120 valiums and 15 thorazine and lidocaine
0:25:00
Howard injected all 5g of the lidocaine - but he only did intramuscular and not intravenous - for 3 days he laid in bed like a corpse
0:26:00
The only muscle that moved for 3 days was his diaphragm - if blood stops circulating you're in trouble - Howard woke up 3 days later
0:27:00
He found blood had come out his chest and neck - if he wasn't a Jewish Atheist, he could've applied for Sainthood in the Catholic church - and he's lost the use of 3 limbs because of ischemia, lack of circulation - he could only use his right hand - his doctor made a house call - he said he wanted to send Howard for 7 tests - Howard said 'fuck that, I can't even get up and down my stairs'
0:28:00
He told the doctor to give him 4 days to get the use of his limbs back - Howard learned how to stand and balance - by jerking his hips forward he could do a semblance of walking - he started by walking to his living room and back, and increased the frequency by 1 each day until he got to 9 miles on the pedometer
0:29:00
His theory was that if he worked his legs everyday to overcome the eschemia, he'd get the blood flow back to his limbs, and he did get their use back - Howard was put in touch with a journalist who had been raised by evangelical parents who were trying to put rock n roll out of business
0:30:00
Howard said he could be interviewed on Christmas day, because Howard would feel especially lonely on that day - he was working for Disinformation.com, and it was headed by Richard Metzger - Howard looked him up and saw he interviewed extreme people
0:31:00
Howard called him up and said 'do you want to walk with a walking corpse? - Come to my apartment at 1pm tonight' - Richard came and talked and took notes until 6am and wrote "I have met God, Bloom is the Einstein, Newton and Darwin of the 21st century'
0:32:00
When Howard got sick, there was no info about CFS - there was an article by Hillary Johnson that had appeared in Rolling Stone about Epstein Barr virus - he thought it sounded horrible, but that he wouldn't get it....but he got it.
0:33:00
Then they found it wasn't causing CFS - Howard says that to the best of his knowledge, they still don't know what causes CFS - for Howard, any stressors would cause a relapse, so he avoided stress as much as possible - of course the divorce was a major stressor
0:34:00
So he would watch Golden Girls and read humour books - but sometimes the 'crisis' in the Golden Girls would set off Howard's stress response and it would take him 3 months to recover from an episode of Golden Girls - he tried to read the blandest writing, like James Thurber
0:35:00
Howard loves Thurber's books - one was about dogs, he loved it...until he got to page 98 when he described a dog fight, and that flattened Howard for 4 months - its hard for people who've never had the experience to conceptualize how conflict on a tv show can cause months of physical disability - but Howard has a theory based on what drugs helped him
0:36:00
We have a stress handling system and like many things in the body it works on a Cheritonian System, a balance between and excitor and an inhibitor
0:37:00
Next time a loud noise happens, check your cognitive system: it is alarmed trying to figure out what it is - our bodies have glutamate, a chemical stimulant - we also have an inhibitor called gaba - Howard started taking valium
0:38:00
He says you have a 20 minute window after a stress response to do something about it or you are fucked - but if you take valium you can avoid a relapse - but if you miss that 20 minute window, you'll be sick for months, too weak to do anything - eventually he convinced his doctor to give him oxytocin, which helped
0:39:00
Then Howard started on gabapentin - valium, oxytocin and gabapentin all feed into the gaba system, the inhibitor - so Howard's system was in hyperdrive all the time, there was no inhibitor - sometimes Howard had to take 27 valium at a time
0:40:00
At that same time the Journal of American Medical Association came out with a cover story saying sometimes an overdose of a drug could be what they need to come back to normal - Howard now takes 30 different drugs and supplements twice a day, it takes about 30 minutes - some he injects intramuscularly, like magnesium, 1 cc of oxytocin, and 2 cc of B12 methylcobalamin - has been on the regime since about 1998
0:41:00
And slowly, slowly, slowly these drugs helped him recover from CFS - by 2003 he was able to get out of the house - during the previous 15 years he had repeatedly worked his way up, adding one step at a time, until he could climb the 4 stories in his house, and then he started adding 20 feet at time on his sidewalk, but then he's have a relapse - that happened maybe 3 times during those 15 years
0:42:00
But once he got the drugs he was able to work up to 6 miles a day - Howard doesn't know of anyone else taking his regime - one day when Howard was at his 'CFS' doctor, the doctor showed him off to other patients as an example of what the doctor could do - but he was misleading them, because what he suggested was not what Howard takes - in fact, Howard found the things the doctor used to be useless
0:43:00
Howard took a very scientific approach to finding what worked - monitoring what worked, what didn't - one day a good friend contacted Howard and said the Duchess of Kent has what you have, can you write her a letter about how to cope with it - so Howard wrote a pamphlet, 16 pages - and had it updated in 2003 - realizing with CFS you have a very limited amount of energy and if you exceed it you're in big trouble
0:44:00
Howard's wife convinced Dr Derek Enlander to come see Howard - there was Dr Susan Levine too, but she required CFS patients to come into her office - 'fuck that, does she not know anything about CFS patients'
0:45:00
The most important thing Dr Enlander did was hand Howard a piece of paper with an email address of a patient in Texas - Howard contacted her and they searched online for treatment modalities
0:46:00
She would track down the doctor using the protocol and get that info back to his doctor - the doctor would sit on it for 6 months, then burp it back up as his own idea and then prescribe it
0:47:00
By experimenting, eventually Howard figured out what worked and that's why he was able to get out of bed in 2003 and resume a normal life - each day he does 1220 pseudo push ups each day, they are closer to planking
0:48:00
Howard also walks 5 miles a day, that is huge for 76 years old - and he's stronger in many ways than when he was 19 - he feels stronger and better then ever in his life, and is free of the clinical depression
0:49:00
Howard thinks it may be the gabapentin as it has shown antidepressant qualities - with CFS you have to be aware of your energy boundaries and do not cross them or you are fucked
0:50:00
Howard took a chance and was the key note speaker at a conference - Howard has a theoretical physics colleague in Moscow, and the 2 of them had been invited to address an audience of quantum phsycicists in Moscow - quantum physics is Howard, it would be like a home coming, there was no way he was going to miss it
0:51:00
Howard flew to Germany to catch another plane to Moscow - half way through the flight he started to experience CFS symptoms, by the time the plane landed, he was in bad shape - he could only lie down in the infirmary if he gave up his passport, very scary
0:52:00
Howard was so sick and desperate, he gave them his passport - then Howard realized he forgot to take his afternoon medicines - to took his gabapentin and 15 minutes later all his symptoms disappeared
0:53:00
That was in 2005 and the last time Howard had a relapse, he learned his lesson - he carries gabapentin with always - Howard says it is possible to overcome CFS, he started taking them in 1998, and it took 5 years for the drugs to accumulatively work
0:54:00
Howard tried to tell the medical establishment about his recovery and regime - but Howard says the last thing in the world he wants to write about is CFS, he's out of those woods, out of that nightmare, he doesn't want to go back
0:55:00
Although Howard been published in 12 different fields, he has no desire to research CFS - his goal is to cover many disciplines and to see the big picture, that's his task in life, that's his job
0:56:00
Howard says Dr Enlander was one of the doctors who popularized the term myaglic encephalomyelitis (ME) - Scott says his energy is flagging due to ME and explains how there is no equivalency between ME and HIV (if you get HIV meds)
0:57:00
JB (he connected Howard and Scott) wanted to know about your sleep regime - Howard says sleep was very important, one of the things that got him healthy - he had insomnia since he was 13 years old, but it got worse with the CFS - then he did a perceptual flip: instead of trying to make his body his sleep for 8 hours according to societal construct - Howard decided to 'listen to my fucking body' - he now sleeps in 2 four hour sleeps
0:58:00
He sleeps as soon as his head hits the pillow, so it turns out listening to his body is good - and if it wants 2 doses of 4 hours, so be it, and fuck the norm - he sets an alarm to wake him up
0:59:00
Howard has also adjusted his sleep pattern to communicate easier with his girlfriend in South Africa - Howard is 75 years old but he is not old, 'fuck that'
1:00:00
Founder of The Cars rock band, Ric Ocasek died about 6 months ago at the age of 75 - Howard realized that if he had of died at 75 he's never known the amazing, astonishing, ecstasy that he experiences with his girlfriend, the first time in his life - this experience is the closest to the divine he's ever experienced in his life
1:01:00
She's 50 years old, but Howard's previous girlfriend was 21 when they got together - so his current girlfriend is more age appropriate - Howard says, but never let age get you
1:02:00
Howard's new book: "Einstein, Michael Jackson and me" - its about a spiritual journey and is funny and filled with adventures and his spiritual journey in the rock and roll industry
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[At the end of part 1 of my interview with the iconic Howard Bloom, he’d just told us about getting the flu, but instead of getting better in a few days, he got much sicker.  Nobody who gets the flu thinks that they will not recover -- we all assume we’ll feel crappy for a few days and then get back to work -- just like how we initially thought survivors of the COVID virus would get back to their pre-COVID health, but now we’re hearing reports of ongoing fatigue and neurological symptoms in a significant number of people who have had COVID.
Research of the SARS pandemic and other viral infections, tells us that not everyone will recover -- some people will develop myalgic encephalomyelitis (aks chronic fatigue syndrome), or ME/cfs, like Howard did.
As the COVID pandemic settles into our nations and neighbourhoods and we wait for treatments or a vaccine, we have to wonder how many people with COVID will remain very sick and disabled by ME/cfs? And will you be one of them?
Now here’s part 2 of my interview with Howard Bloom, the author of the newly released ‘Einstein, Michael Jackson and me’, as Howard shares how he coped with being mostly bed bound for 15 years, and what protocol he uses to keep himself pursuing truth in science.
SHOW NOTES:
 
0:05:00
Howard can't even remember being at work on Monday - about noon on Tuesday he told his colleagues they had to get him out of the office immediately because soon he'd be too weak to walk upstairs - his staff literally dragged him to the car to take him home - he doesn't know how he made it upstairs to his 4th floor apartment because he was so weak - Howard was too sick to leave his bedroom for 3 months - often too weak to think and too weak to speak
0:06:00
And the Howard got better, he thought it must have been a really bad flu - Howard did not see a doctor during this time, he was too weak, and doctors stopped making house calls - when Howard got better he went to see a fancy doctor who gave him a fancy diagnosis of Duchenne Syndrome (muscular dystrophy), but he was wrong - Howard got back to walking every day
0:07:00
One day Howard had John Mellencamp playing at Madison Square Gardens, The Scorpions playing at The Meadowlands and opening for Metallica, and Cyndi Lauper was graduating from high school, she had dropped out, but she was getting an Honorary Diploma - so Howard had a very busy day
0:08:00
"That day broke me" - he had strange, unbelievable symptoms - if it was 90 degrees out, he'd be freezing, shivering, teeth chattering - a breeze from an open window would hit Howard hard, so he had to forbid people from opening windows, even on 90 degree days - on 40 degree days, he'd be overheating and sweating - his thermoregulatory system was broken - he had no idea what the fuck was happening to him
0:09:00
At some point Howard went to his family doctor, who could not diagnose him - Howard told his staff he didn't know what was wrong with him, he could be dying, but he couldn't work any more and gave them the business - the next day he was offered $350,000 for the business, but he declined
0:10:00
Howard finished 2 weeks of work, went to his bedroom and didn't come out for 15 years for all intents and purposes - Howard did some research and told his doctor he thought he had chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) - the doctor said there is no such thing as CFS - but 3 years later to doctor thanked Howard for educating him on CFS, because he'd been seeing it in a lot of his patients
0:11:00
Howard says that when you have an illness with no name, you are not on the map of humanity - so it is scary to have CFS and because it is scary to others, they don't even acknowledge it - if you lose the ability to walk, Howard lost the ability to speak for 5 years, not a single syllable - he also couldn't have another person in the room with him - when things like that happen, you lose connection to humanity
0:12:00
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Who is Howard Bloom? And what does he have to do with the COVID pandemic?</p>
<p>It’s hard to know where to start -- Howard is a world renowned scientist, a highly regarded intellectual, an author and lecturer on wide ranging subject matter, a frank philosopher….and swears like a broken down truck driver. </p>
<p>Howard’s #1 principle of science - and seemingly his life - is “the truth at any price including the price of your life”.  Howard has written or lectured on quantum physics, evolutionary biology, neuroscience, economics, and aerospace among other scientific disciplines.  Howard has been described as "next in a lineage of seminal thinkers that includes Newton, Darwin, Einstein”.  </p>
<p>Yet science-minded Howard made a huge cultural impact managing public relations for some of the world’s biggest rock stars like Michael Jackson, Prince, Bob Marley, Bette Midler, Billy Joel, and on and on the list goes. Howard’s success was unparalleled and his future was wide open to possibilities….until his body failed his mind. Like mortals, Howard got sick with the flu, but instead of getting better in a few days, and unlike most others, he got worse. Much worse. Howard would spend the next 15 years practically bed bound, and 5 of those years he was so weak he couldn’t speak, and so sick he couldn’t have people in the same room.</p>
<p>Howard would eventually figure out he had ME/cfs, known scientifically as myalgic encephalomyelitis, or ME -- and informally known as ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’, or CFS.  ME/cfs is a complex disease that causes chronic immune and neurological dysfunction. Like millions of other people who never recovered from the flu or a viral or bacterial infection, and developed ME/cfs, Howard’s life - and his hope and dreams - would never be the same.</p>
<p>It is well known in the medical community that some people never recover from viral infections. Many of the 2003 SARS pandemic victims did not fully recover because they developed ME/cfs, and it is beginning to appear that many of the COVID pandemic victims will also develop chronic immune and neurological problems like ME/cfs patients. The world may be facing millions more people who never recover from COVID and develop ME/cfs like Howard.</p>
<p>In this interview, Howard shares his remarkable life, with all its highest of highs, and lowest of lows -- and tales of some of the famous people who intersected his journey through the world of rock and roll, and notable thinkers also immersed in the messy business of scientific discovery. </p>
<p>Perhaps as unusual as his life, Howard has made a very rare and full recovery from ME/cfs by maintaining a regimen of drugs to keep his body and mind working hard -- and to find the truth at any cost.</p>
<p>Here is part 1 of my interview with the engrossing and sublime scientist Howard Bloom, author of the newly released book “<a href='http://howardbloom.net/'>Einstein, Michael Jackson and me</a>”....</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
0:07:00
Howard Bloom says childhood was a nightmare - he grew up in Buffalo, New York, and that's a nightmare - a very pretty city, wonderful Victorian architecture with big and front lawns - but his family didn't get to that status until he was 9 years old - Howard says that for someone born with a disability of being intellectual and probably bring on the autism spectrum
0:08:00
a term that didn't exist in those days, it was a very lonely place - Howard was born in 1943, the year of the Holocaust - his father has started a small liquor store in an attempt to make a living, he was 33 years old and was drafted and sent to California - so Howard grew up without a father - his mother had to immediately take over the liquor store and abandon her maternal role
0:09:00
Howard felt like he grew up without a mother as well - his mother was incredible competent, but not good at intimate relationships - so she hired a cleaning woman, not a baby sitter - to keep him out of the way, the cleaning women would lock him in a small corridor
0:10:00
That was how Howard spent the first 3 years of his life - once his Dad came back, Howard was ecstatic, for the first time in his life he's have a family - his parents then told him that he would be having a baby brother
0:11:00
Although Howard's brother was 2nd born, he was treated as the 1st child - so they parented his brother, but Howard was left in the cold - his mother was afraid of polio so she rarely let Howard out to play with other kids, but when she did, the other kids loathed Howard - when there was somebody to beat up, or chase, or humiliate, Howard was the kid
0:12:00
The neighbourhood kids excluded and marginalized Howard - but growing up isolated for the 1st ten years turned out to be a blessing for his future
0:13:00
Howard remebers in 1st grade that the 1st kid done their work would get a gold star - Howard was always last - his teacher called Howard's mother in and said 'I think your son is mentally retarded' and should be taken for psychological testing, and his mother did that but never told him the test results - one day Howard came in 2nd last, not last, and his teacher was so pleased, she gave him a gold star - so Howard was late to learn how to read and write
0:14:00
The house Howard was born in was very small, but his father did well from the liquor store they bought a new house, next door to a Frank Lloyd Wright designed house, with a huge backyard
0:15:00
It was an isolated neighbourhood, so Howard felt just as isolated as before - but their neighbour were a man and woman who were radiologists with advanced degrees - one day the woman said, 'my kids are away at summer camp, come to my reading room and see my books' - she had all 38 Oz books, and Howard read them all that summer - this was his introduction to a virtual world of reading
0:16:00
By 4th grade Howard was reading 2 books a day, one under his desk, so he was not paying attention to the teacher at all
0:17:00
Howard's father worked long hours, while his mother worked at becoming influential in Jewish society and education so she would hang out with college educated people, who she resented because she didn't get to go to college, so there was no time for Howard - whereas his parents dotted, hovered and did all the things you'd expect a parent to do
0:18:00
When Howard was in the Boy Scouts he tried very hard to win medals by completing tasks and then getting a parent to sign a piece of paper, but Howard could not get his parents to sign - when Howard's brother started Boy Scout's their mother became a Den Mother
0:19:00
This has worked to Howard's advantage - Howard can not look at things in the normal way, and he doesn't want to - when he was about 10 years old he found another book
0:20:00
He'd never seen it before, and would never see it again - the first 2 things it said were: the truth at any price, including the price of your life - and look at things as if you've never seen them before - to prove point #1, it told the story of Gallileo, but they told it all wrong - it said Gallileo would stick to his truth even if burnt at the stake - Howard says that is wrong - Gallileo told the Pope he'd retract everything he'd ever written
0:21:00
In exchange for house arrest - but the book did not tell it that way, but Howard needed a hero at that point -- the 2nd point was about Antonie van Leeuwenhoek, 1 of the 2 men who invented the microscope - it described Leeuwenhoek looking at swamp water and seeing 'animalcules' and writing to the Royal Society
0:22:00
Look for things that are invisible to you and all those around you and bring them into the light -- those 2 rules grabbed Howard, it was his religion, and he's dedicated his life to it - but not conventional science - he's a professional outsider, to see things others don't, to ask questions that would not occur to others - that's his fucking job
0:23:00
Howard read Jack Kerouac's On The Road, and reading about the Beatniks in Time Magazine - Howard and his best friend would Time cover to cover and they tied in the magazines current events competition every year
0:24:00
Every issue there was a story obout the Beatniks - Howard thought that if he could get close to the Beatniks, he would be accepted - the his father made a hideous mistake: for summer vacation he took them on a road trip to Cape Cod and Provincetown - Howard walked into the gallery in P-town and there were a bunch of Beatniks from the West Village (New York)
0:25:00
They grabbed onto Howard and treated him like another adult - so he spent the week with them and bought a pair sandals - when he got back to Buffalo, his French teacher was so scared of him and his sandals, she put him in a walk in closet - Howard started reading about Zen and wanted to drop out of high school, getting a motorcycle and go to California - but his parents threatened to send him to lumberjack camp
0:26:00
The last thing Howard wanted was to be around a bunch of macho men - Howard got in to Reed College, same as Steve Jobs, but Howard dropped out 6 weeks before the end of the year - as he was hitchhiking and riding the rails, a group of people gathered around Howard - Time and other magazines gave that movement a name, the Hippie Movement, so Howard, with others, accidentally started the Hippie Movement
0:27:00
Howard went to Israel for a year to live on a Kibbutz - his father thought it would make a man out of him - Howard went back to NY University - but when Howard was 10 years old, his mother took him to meet the head of Buffalo University graduate physics department and were in his office for an hour - as they were leaving, the proffessor put his hand on Howard's shoulder and told his mother that she didn't have to save to pay for college, Howard would get a scholarship to any college he wanted in theoretical physics
0:28:00
They had been interpreting the effect of the doppler shift and its implactions for Big Bang, the hot topic in physics at the time - indeed, Howard had 4 fellowships when he finished NYU, but in a field that had not been named yet, neuroscience - he got Columbia U to allow him to take any medical courses he wanted so he could piece together his own education program - but at 12 years old Howard realized what fascinated him was mass human passion, he called it 'the gods inside of us'
0:29:00
Howard realized that if he went to Grad school, it would be Aushwitz for the mind - so he dropped out, and went into something he knew little about: popular culture -- Howard pivoted because the Poet in Residence told Howard...
0:30:00
...last year I asked you to be on the editorial board of the school literary magazine and you didn't even show up, this year I'm telling you that you are the Editor - Howard was distressed, he hated literary magazines, the typeface was terrible, colors awful - you could stop an orgy by throwong a literary magazine in it
0:31:00
A friend asked him: if you could do anything with this magazine, what would it be? Howard said it would be a picture book - so he gathered a team of visual artists and poets to create an issue Washington Square Review in a 12 x 12 inch format with full color printing
0:32:00
Howard was called into a meeting about the cost of the magazine and they said we're doubling your budget for the next issue - the 2nd issue was the Sex and Death issue, but half the staff quit - when it was published, Howard got calls from Look Magazine and others including Boy's LIfe...
0:33:00
...the Boy Scout magazine - Howard had been kicked out of the Boy Scout's for incompetence in Morse Code when he was 11 -- Howard spent 2 weeks in a mental institution because the day after he attended his only rock and roll concert, he had tried to kill himself
0:34:00
For 4 years, school had given Howard structure and purpose - his 1st semester he got 4 As and 1 B, and he was humiliated to get a B -- in his 2nd semester he also got 4 As and 1 B
0:35:00
Howard created learning techniques, and he got straight As every semester after that - but when he school ended he had no purpose, no goal - Howard thinks he was depressed since he was 5 years old - every second of every day was a living hell, a torture and work was his escape - he learned to be a workaholic when he was 14 years old - when school ended, he fell into his deep depression
0:36:00
He knew what he'd be doing in September, but had no structure for the summer - he sat staring at a big bottle of valium and that was as far as he got in his suicide attempt
0:37:00
Howard's wife called Howard's uncle, a doctor, and they had Howard committed to a mental institution - when he got out, he went to visit one of his artists, but found him, his wife and their son in an empty apartment, crying - they were broke and about to be evicted
0:38:00
Howard told him he was a great artist and that if Howard showed his artwork they could both make money - after 2 weeks of trying to see art, he'd accomplished nothing
0:39:00
Howards' wife's 1st husband was a student too - she let Howard know she was sick and tired of students as husbands and Howard would lose her if he continued
0:40:00
Howard did not want to lose his wife - remember, Howard started out at 10 interested in astrophysics and microbiology - at 12 he built his first Boolean Algebra machine - at 16 he worked at the world's largest cancer research facility
0:41:00
Howard developed a theory about the beginning and end of the universe that he later discarded, but it did predict something that came true 38 years later: dark energy - but at 12-13 years old Howard discovered one of his real passions was for 'the gods inside us' - to find the ecstactic experience and how it relates to history
0:42:00
Howard felt like psychologist William James's 1902 book, The Varities of Religious Experience', was written for him - a calling to continue James's work
0:43:00
Howard was in pursuit of the ecstatic experience - that was never going to happen at Grad School
0:44:00
So in September, instead of returning to school, he immersed himself in something he knew nothing about: popular culture - it was an opportunity to go 'into the field' and it was an obligation of Howard's as a science person
0:45:00
Science is dedicating yourself to exploring - particpant/observor science, like Margaret Meade immersing herself in another culture
0:46:00
Fast forward in Howard's life, and he starts a PR (Public Relations) firm for rock and roll and popular music - he built into the largest PR firm approaching it from a science stance he learned growing up - Howard reinvented music PR
0:47:00
Howard took a 'truth drives out lies' approach to PR, in align with science seeking truth - Howard worked with a lot of talent and turned them into superstars
0:48:00
Howard says that if you find someone who can have a positive influence on humanity, you must dedicate yourself to that - when Howard was 14 yrs old, he promised his parents he would work hard if he could go to a private school - that's where he learned to work 7 days a week
0:49:00
Constant work was the salvation for his clinical depression - it did not cure, but buffered the pain a little bit - Howard says thanks to CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) he no longer has depression
0:50:00
Howard had heard that fighter pilots are sent into battle for 2 weeks, then get 6 weeks of rest and relaxation because their 'alarm system' is on super high when they are fighting, and if you leave the alarm system on too long, they will burnout - Howard alarm system had been on 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year - he does not like rest or relaxation, it is depressing - Howard worked for 8 years without a vacation, but arranged a 2 week vacation in Los Angeles
0:51:00
In his 30s, Howard knew his body would refuse to work unrelentlessly hard - he didn't know what form that would take, but knew it would prevent him from working so prepared to live with that - Howard and his wife lived like church mice, but took all their money and invested it in real estate
0:52:00
So the property would earn a living if Howard was too weak to work - but on March 10, 1988, Howard flew to a meeting with new clients, to meet them in their own environment
0:53:00
In spite of anticipating his body was going to break down, Howard did not let up on his workaholic ways - his 1st prinicple is the truth at any price, including the price of your life - so Howard flew to this meeting and was met at the airport and taken to Linda and Cecil's home
0:54:00
Their home was new, built like an aircraft carrier, it was unfinished, on top of a hill, surrounded by sheep - because it was March 10th, it was cold and there was no heating or furniture, so they sat on the floor for the next 5-6 hours - then got back into the jeep and 5 hours drive back to the airport - something uncharacteristic happend when he left the plane: he forgot his laptop - the next day it was obvious he was coming down a cold, so he did what he always did: work hard, walk 2.5 miles, carry on -- he was a bit sicker the next day (Sunday), but did his 2.5 miles walk
0:55:00
Howard can't even remember being at work on Monday - about noon on Tuesday he told his colleagues they had to get him out of the office immediately because soon he'd be too weak to walk upstairs - his staff literally dragged him to the car to take him home - he doesn't know how he made it upstairs to his 4th floor apartment because he was so weak - Howard was too sick to leave his bedroom for 3 months
0:56:00
Howard felt like his circuit boards had been pulled out - until all he could was stare at the ceiling - but he was blissfully content because he didn't have the energy to be depressed, or the energy to be unfulfilled or driven - Howard's wife got their daughter's friend to care give and Howard spent 3 months watching movies - often too weak to think and too weak to speak ---- PART 2 COMING NEXT WEEK ------
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is Howard Bloom? And what does he have to do with the COVID pandemic?</p>
<p>It’s hard to know where to start -- Howard is a world renowned scientist, a highly regarded intellectual, an author and lecturer on wide ranging subject matter, a frank philosopher….and swears like a broken down truck driver. </p>
<p>Howard’s #1 principle of science - and seemingly his life - is “<em>the </em><em>truth</em> <em>at any price</em><em> including the </em><em>price</em><em> of your life</em>”.  Howard has written or lectured on quantum physics, evolutionary biology, neuroscience, economics, and aerospace among other scientific disciplines.  Howard has been described as "<em>next in a lineage of seminal thinkers that includes Newton, Darwin, Einstein</em>”.  </p>
<p>Yet science-minded Howard made a huge cultural impact managing public relations for some of the world’s biggest rock stars like Michael Jackson, Prince, Bob Marley, Bette Midler, Billy Joel, and on and on the list goes. Howard’s success was unparalleled and his future was wide open to possibilities….until his body failed his mind. Like mortals, Howard got sick with the flu, but instead of getting better in a few days, and unlike most others, he got worse. Much worse. Howard would spend the next 15 years practically bed bound, and 5 of those years he was so weak he couldn’t speak, and so sick he couldn’t have people in the same room.</p>
<p>Howard would eventually figure out he had ME/cfs, known scientifically as myalgic encephalomyelitis, or ME -- and informally known as ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’, or CFS.  ME/cfs is a complex disease that causes chronic immune and neurological dysfunction. Like millions of other people who never recovered from the flu or a viral or bacterial infection, and developed ME/cfs, Howard’s life - and his hope and dreams - would never be the same.</p>
<p>It is well known in the medical community that some people never recover from viral infections. Many of the 2003 SARS pandemic victims did not fully recover because they developed ME/cfs, and it is beginning to appear that many of the COVID pandemic victims will also develop chronic immune and neurological problems like ME/cfs patients. The world may be facing millions more people who never recover from COVID and develop ME/cfs like Howard.</p>
<p>In this interview, Howard shares his remarkable life, with all its highest of highs, and lowest of lows -- and tales of some of the famous people who intersected his journey through the world of rock and roll, and notable thinkers also immersed in the messy business of scientific discovery. </p>
<p>Perhaps as unusual as his life, Howard has made a very rare and full recovery from ME/cfs by maintaining a regimen of drugs to keep his body and mind working hard -- and to find the truth at any cost.</p>
<p>Here is part 1 of my interview with the engrossing and sublime scientist Howard Bloom, author of the newly released book “<a href='http://howardbloom.net/'><em>Einstein, Michael Jackson and me</em></a>”....</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
0:07:00
Howard Bloom says childhood was a nightmare - he grew up in Buffalo, New York, and that's a nightmare - a very pretty city, wonderful Victorian architecture with big and front lawns - but his family didn't get to that status until he was 9 years old - Howard says that for someone born with a disability of being intellectual and probably bring on the autism spectrum
0:08:00
a term that didn't exist in those days, it was a very lonely place - Howard was born in 1943, the year of the Holocaust - his father has started a small liquor store in an attempt to make a living, he was 33 years old and was drafted and sent to California - so Howard grew up without a father - his mother had to immediately take over the liquor store and abandon her maternal role
0:09:00
Howard felt like he grew up without a mother as well - his mother was incredible competent, but not good at intimate relationships - so she hired a cleaning woman, not a baby sitter - to keep him out of the way, the cleaning women would lock him in a small corridor
0:10:00
That was how Howard spent the first 3 years of his life - once his Dad came back, Howard was ecstatic, for the first time in his life he's have a family - his parents then told him that he would be having a baby brother
0:11:00
Although Howard's brother was 2nd born, he was treated as the 1st child - so they parented his brother, but Howard was left in the cold - his mother was afraid of polio so she rarely let Howard out to play with other kids, but when she did, the other kids loathed Howard - when there was somebody to beat up, or chase, or humiliate, Howard was the kid
0:12:00
The neighbourhood kids excluded and marginalized Howard - but growing up isolated for the 1st ten years turned out to be a blessing for his future
0:13:00
Howard remebers in 1st grade that the 1st kid done their work would get a gold star - Howard was always last - his teacher called Howard's mother in and said 'I think your son is mentally retarded' and should be taken for psychological testing, and his mother did that but never told him the test results - one day Howard came in 2nd last, not last, and his teacher was so pleased, she gave him a gold star - so Howard was late to learn how to read and write
0:14:00
The house Howard was born in was very small, but his father did well from the liquor store they bought a new house, next door to a Frank Lloyd Wright designed house, with a huge backyard
0:15:00
It was an isolated neighbourhood, so Howard felt just as isolated as before - but their neighbour were a man and woman who were radiologists with advanced degrees - one day the woman said, 'my kids are away at summer camp, come to my reading room and see my books' - she had all 38 Oz books, and Howard read them all that summer - this was his introduction to a virtual world of reading
0:16:00
By 4th grade Howard was reading 2 books a day, one under his desk, so he was not paying attention to the teacher at all
0:17:00
Howard's father worked long hours, while his mother worked at becoming influential in Jewish society and education so she would hang out with college educated people, who she resented because she didn't get to go to college, so there was no time for Howard - whereas his parents dotted, hovered and did all the things you'd expect a parent to do
0:18:00
When Howard was in the Boy Scouts he tried very hard to win medals by completing tasks and then getting a parent to sign a piece of paper, but Howard could not get his parents to sign - when Howard's brother started Boy Scout's their mother became a Den Mother
0:19:00
This has worked to Howard's advantage - Howard can not look at things in the normal way, and he doesn't want to - when he was about 10 years old he found another book
0:20:00
He'd never seen it before, and would never see it again - the first 2 things it said were: the truth at any price, including the price of your life - and look at things as if you've never seen them before - to prove point #1, it told the story of Gallileo, but they told it all wrong - it said Gallileo would stick to his truth even if burnt at the stake - Howard says that is wrong - Gallileo told the Pope he'd retract everything he'd ever written
0:21:00
In exchange for house arrest - but the book did not tell it that way, but Howard needed a hero at that point -- the 2nd point was about Antonie van Leeuwenhoek, 1 of the 2 men who invented the microscope - it described Leeuwenhoek looking at swamp water and seeing 'animalcules' and writing to the Royal Society
0:22:00
Look for things that are invisible to you and all those around you and bring them into the light -- those 2 rules grabbed Howard, it was his religion, and he's dedicated his life to it - but not conventional science - he's a professional outsider, to see things others don't, to ask questions that would not occur to others - that's his fucking job
0:23:00
Howard read Jack Kerouac's On The Road, and reading about the Beatniks in Time Magazine - Howard and his best friend would Time cover to cover and they tied in the magazines current events competition every year
0:24:00
Every issue there was a story obout the Beatniks - Howard thought that if he could get close to the Beatniks, he would be accepted - the his father made a hideous mistake: for summer vacation he took them on a road trip to Cape Cod and Provincetown - Howard walked into the gallery in P-town and there were a bunch of Beatniks from the West Village (New York)
0:25:00
They grabbed onto Howard and treated him like another adult - so he spent the week with them and bought a pair sandals - when he got back to Buffalo, his French teacher was so scared of him and his sandals, she put him in a walk in closet - Howard started reading about Zen and wanted to drop out of high school, getting a motorcycle and go to California - but his parents threatened to send him to lumberjack camp
0:26:00
The last thing Howard wanted was to be around a bunch of macho men - Howard got in to Reed College, same as Steve Jobs, but Howard dropped out 6 weeks before the end of the year - as he was hitchhiking and riding the rails, a group of people gathered around Howard - Time and other magazines gave that movement a name, the Hippie Movement, so Howard, with others, accidentally started the Hippie Movement
0:27:00
Howard went to Israel for a year to live on a Kibbutz - his father thought it would make a man out of him - Howard went back to NY University - but when Howard was 10 years old, his mother took him to meet the head of Buffalo University graduate physics department and were in his office for an hour - as they were leaving, the proffessor put his hand on Howard's shoulder and told his mother that she didn't have to save to pay for college, Howard would get a scholarship to any college he wanted in theoretical physics
0:28:00
They had been interpreting the effect of the doppler shift and its implactions for Big Bang, the hot topic in physics at the time - indeed, Howard had 4 fellowships when he finished NYU, but in a field that had not been named yet, neuroscience - he got Columbia U to allow him to take any medical courses he wanted so he could piece together his own education program - but at 12 years old Howard realized what fascinated him was mass human passion, he called it 'the gods inside of us'
0:29:00
Howard realized that if he went to Grad school, it would be Aushwitz for the mind - so he dropped out, and went into something he knew little about: popular culture -- Howard pivoted because the Poet in Residence told Howard...
0:30:00
...last year I asked you to be on the editorial board of the school literary magazine and you didn't even show up, this year I'm telling you that you are the Editor - Howard was distressed, he hated literary magazines, the typeface was terrible, colors awful - you could stop an orgy by throwong a literary magazine in it
0:31:00
A friend asked him: if you could do anything with this magazine, what would it be? Howard said it would be a picture book - so he gathered a team of visual artists and poets to create an issue Washington Square Review in a 12 x 12 inch format with full color printing
0:32:00
Howard was called into a meeting about the cost of the magazine and they said we're doubling your budget for the next issue - the 2nd issue was the Sex and Death issue, but half the staff quit - when it was published, Howard got calls from Look Magazine and others including Boy's LIfe...
0:33:00
...the Boy Scout magazine - Howard had been kicked out of the Boy Scout's for incompetence in Morse Code when he was 11 -- Howard spent 2 weeks in a mental institution because the day after he attended his only rock and roll concert, he had tried to kill himself
0:34:00
For 4 years, school had given Howard structure and purpose - his 1st semester he got 4 As and 1 B, and he was humiliated to get a B -- in his 2nd semester he also got 4 As and 1 B
0:35:00
Howard created learning techniques, and he got straight As every semester after that - but when he school ended he had no purpose, no goal - Howard thinks he was depressed since he was 5 years old - every second of every day was a living hell, a torture and work was his escape - he learned to be a workaholic when he was 14 years old - when school ended, he fell into his deep depression
0:36:00
He knew what he'd be doing in September, but had no structure for the summer - he sat staring at a big bottle of valium and that was as far as he got in his suicide attempt
0:37:00
Howard's wife called Howard's uncle, a doctor, and they had Howard committed to a mental institution - when he got out, he went to visit one of his artists, but found him, his wife and their son in an empty apartment, crying - they were broke and about to be evicted
0:38:00
Howard told him he was a great artist and that if Howard showed his artwork they could both make money - after 2 weeks of trying to see art, he'd accomplished nothing
0:39:00
Howards' wife's 1st husband was a student too - she let Howard know she was sick and tired of students as husbands and Howard would lose her if he continued
0:40:00
Howard did not want to lose his wife - remember, Howard started out at 10 interested in astrophysics and microbiology - at 12 he built his first Boolean Algebra machine - at 16 he worked at the world's largest cancer research facility
0:41:00
Howard developed a theory about the beginning and end of the universe that he later discarded, but it did predict something that came true 38 years later: dark energy - but at 12-13 years old Howard discovered one of his real passions was for 'the gods inside us' - to find the ecstactic experience and how it relates to history
0:42:00
Howard felt like psychologist William James's 1902 book, The Varities of Religious Experience', was written for him - a calling to continue James's work
0:43:00
Howard was in pursuit of the ecstatic experience - that was never going to happen at Grad School
0:44:00
So in September, instead of returning to school, he immersed himself in something he knew nothing about: popular culture - it was an opportunity to go 'into the field' and it was an obligation of Howard's as a science person
0:45:00
Science is dedicating yourself to exploring - particpant/observor science, like Margaret Meade immersing herself in another culture
0:46:00
Fast forward in Howard's life, and he starts a PR (Public Relations) firm for rock and roll and popular music - he built into the largest PR firm approaching it from a science stance he learned growing up - Howard reinvented music PR
0:47:00
Howard took a 'truth drives out lies' approach to PR, in align with science seeking truth - Howard worked with a lot of talent and turned them into superstars
0:48:00
Howard says that if you find someone who can have a positive influence on humanity, you must dedicate yourself to that - when Howard was 14 yrs old, he promised his parents he would work hard if he could go to a private school - that's where he learned to work 7 days a week
0:49:00
Constant work was the salvation for his clinical depression - it did not cure, but buffered the pain a little bit - Howard says thanks to CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) he no longer has depression
0:50:00
Howard had heard that fighter pilots are sent into battle for 2 weeks, then get 6 weeks of rest and relaxation because their 'alarm system' is on super high when they are fighting, and if you leave the alarm system on too long, they will burnout - Howard alarm system had been on 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year - he does not like rest or relaxation, it is depressing - Howard worked for 8 years without a vacation, but arranged a 2 week vacation in Los Angeles
0:51:00
In his 30s, Howard knew his body would refuse to work unrelentlessly hard - he didn't know what form that would take, but knew it would prevent him from working so prepared to live with that - Howard and his wife lived like church mice, but took all their money and invested it in real estate
0:52:00
So the property would earn a living if Howard was too weak to work - but on March 10, 1988, Howard flew to a meeting with new clients, to meet them in their own environment
0:53:00
In spite of anticipating his body was going to break down, Howard did not let up on his workaholic ways - his 1st prinicple is the truth at any price, including the price of your life - so Howard flew to this meeting and was met at the airport and taken to Linda and Cecil's home
0:54:00
Their home was new, built like an aircraft carrier, it was unfinished, on top of a hill, surrounded by sheep - because it was March 10th, it was cold and there was no heating or furniture, so they sat on the floor for the next 5-6 hours - then got back into the jeep and 5 hours drive back to the airport - something uncharacteristic happend when he left the plane: he forgot his laptop - the next day it was obvious he was coming down a cold, so he did what he always did: work hard, walk 2.5 miles, carry on -- he was a bit sicker the next day (Sunday), but did his 2.5 miles walk
0:55:00
Howard can't even remember being at work on Monday - about noon on Tuesday he told his colleagues they had to get him out of the office immediately because soon he'd be too weak to walk upstairs - his staff literally dragged him to the car to take him home - he doesn't know how he made it upstairs to his 4th floor apartment because he was so weak - Howard was too sick to leave his bedroom for 3 months
0:56:00
Howard felt like his circuit boards had been pulled out - until all he could was stare at the ceiling - but he was blissfully content because he didn't have the energy to be depressed, or the energy to be unfulfilled or driven - Howard's wife got their daughter's friend to care give and Howard spent 3 months watching movies - often too weak to think and too weak to speak ---- PART 2 COMING NEXT WEEK ------
<p>Connect with Howard Bloom: <a href='http://howardbloom.net/'>howardbloom.net</a></p>
<p>Facebook:  <a href='https://www.facebook.com/howard.bloom'>https://www.facebook.com/howard.bloom</a> </p>
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<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Who is Howard Bloom? And what does he have to do with the COVID pandemic?
It’s hard to know where to start -- Howard is a world renowned scientist, a highly regarded intellectual, an author and lecturer on wide ranging subject matter, a frank philosopher….and swears like a broken down truck driver. 
Howard’s #1 principle of science - and seemingly his life - is “the truth at any price including the price of your life”.  Howard has written or lectured on quantum physics, evolutionary biology, neuroscience, economics, and aerospace among other scientific disciplines.  Howard has been described as "next in a lineage of seminal thinkers that includes Newton, Darwin, Einstein”.  
Yet science-minded Howard made a huge cultural impact managing public relations for some of the world’s biggest rock stars like Michael Jackson, Prince, Bob Marley, Bette Midler, Billy Joel, and on and on the list goes. Howard’s success was unparalleled and his future was wide open to possibilities….until his body failed his mind. Like mortals, Howard got sick with the flu, but instead of getting better in a few days, and unlike most others, he got worse. Much worse. Howard would spend the next 15 years practically bed bound, and 5 of those years he was so weak he couldn’t speak, and so sick he couldn’t have people in the same room.
Howard would eventually figure out he had ME/cfs, known scientifically as myalgic encephalomyelitis, or ME -- and informally known as ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’, or CFS.  ME/cfs is a complex disease that causes chronic immune and neurological dysfunction. Like millions of other people who never recovered from the flu or a viral or bacterial infection, and developed ME/cfs, Howard’s life - and his hope and dreams - would never be the same.
It is well known in the medical community that some people never recover from viral infections. Many of the 2003 SARS pandemic victims did not fully recover because they developed ME/cfs, and it is beginning to appear that many of the COVID pandemic victims will also develop chronic immune and neurological problems like ME/cfs patients. The world may be facing millions more people who never recover from COVID and develop ME/cfs like Howard.
In this interview, Howard shares his remarkable life, with all its highest of highs, and lowest of lows -- and tales of some of the famous people who intersected his journey through the world of rock and roll, and notable thinkers also immersed in the messy business of scientific discovery. 
Perhaps as unusual as his life, Howard has made a very rare and full recovery from ME/cfs by maintaining a regimen of drugs to keep his body and mind working hard -- and to find the truth at any cost.
Here is part 1 of my interview with the engrossing and sublime scientist Howard Bloom, author of the newly released book “Einstein, Michael Jackson and me”....
SHOW NOTES
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Howard Bloom says childhood was a nightmare - he grew up in Buffalo, New York, and that's a nightmare - a very pretty city, wonderful Victorian architecture with big and front lawns - but his family didn't get to that status until he was 9 years old - Howard says that for someone born with a disability of being intellectual and probably bring on the autism spectrum
0:08:00
a term that didn't exist in those days, it was a very lonely place - Howard was born in 1943, the year of the Holocaust - his father has started a small liquor store in an attempt to make a living, he was 33 years old and was drafted and sent to California - so Howard grew up without a father - his mother had to immediately take over the liquor store and abandon her maternal role
0:09:00
Howard felt like he grew up without a mother as well - his mother was incredible competent, but not good at intimate relationships - so she hired a cleaning woman, not a baby sitter - to keep him out of the way, the cleaning women would lock him in a small corridor
0:10:00
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        <title>Tracey Wilson: Surgeon leaves 42 inch wire curled up in her heart: When a ‘never event’ happens.</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When I connected with Tracey Wilson about her experience with medical error and she told me that a surgeon had unknowingly left a piece of wire in her heart, I squirmed a wee bit at the thought of it, and imagined the wire was maybe an inch long.</p>
<p>Then Tracey sent me a picture of her holding the wire, her arms were outstretched on either side of her, gripping a wire that measured 42 inches in length. After I picked my jaw up off the floor, I knew I had to interview Tracey to find out how this happened and how she managed to survive what is called in the health care sector as a ‘never event’, as in ‘it never should have happened’.</p>
<p>As it turns out, Tracey’s medical error experience of having a long piece of wire accidentally left curled up in her heart, was not a one-off event. As surgeons tried to remove a piece of the wire, they messed up some of her lymph nodes giving Tracey nasty side effects. </p>
<p>Then they tried to correct that error, and triggered lymphedema and now Tracey’s legs have lymph fluid pooling in them, causing swelling, loss of mobility and pain.</p>
<p>As Tracey says, ‘it has been a series of catastrophic events’.</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
 
***Disclaimer: Settlement of a medical malpractice case in West Virginia is NOT an admission of guilt. West Virginia is a 'no fault settlement' state.***
0:05:00
Tracey grew up in Bucks County, Pennsylvania - in a small town called Sellersville - everybody knew everybody and Tracey's family had been there for generations - Tracey says she had an average childhood, but spent some time in foster care, but for the most part of fairly happy kid - Tracey did not like school, she had buck teeth and kids were cruel - she was pretty much a loner, but loved art
0:06:00
Tracey went to college, it took her 7 years to graduate, but she was determined - her mother raised 3 kids on welfare and Tracey did not want to fall into that trap - she wanted to make something of her life - she went to college for biological sciences so she could pursue animal husbandry
0:07:00
In 2016 Tracey started to have fainting spells - one of the while she was driving - she was hospitalized for 5 days for testing - her primary care doctor said he was sending Tracey to a cardiologist to be assessed for vasovagal syncope and bradychardia
0:08:00
Bradycardia is an exceptionally slow heart beat and it will cause low blood pressure - vasovagal syncope is a malfunction of the vagus nerve - 2 symptoms are: fainting as the sight of blood, and narcolepsy - they are triggers that cause loss of consciousness - so figuring out the trigger is important
0:09:00
Tracey was sent to cardiologist Dr Demede - Tracey had been wearing a Holter monitor that constantly recorded her heart function and the doctor could download the activity - during this Tracey was on a medication called purolo, a medication to control heart beat, but it made Tracey heart stop for 2.3 seconds - Tracey was asleep and did not notice, but the next day she got a frantic phone call to come immediately to the hospital - Dr Demede was pushing hard to put a pacemaker in
0:10:00
But one of his colleagues thought the heart stopping maybe due to the medication - so they took Tracey off the medication and monitored her heart - it turns out it was probably the medication that made her heart stop - Tracey was against a pacemaker because it represented that her heart was not able to do its job - but it didn't explain her fainting spells
0:11:00
They did some other tests, but Dr Demede was very determined that a pacemaker was the solution - Tracey spent a year resisting a pacemaker - she was fitted with an internal heart monitor in her chest that monitored her at all times, it had a constant upload - it would perhaps show what Tracey's heart problem was about
0:12:00
About 1.5 weeks later Tracey started to feel very, very tired - she called the doctor's office and asked them to check her heart monitor results - they immediately called her back and told her to come into the office right away - when she got there, the doctor showed her the EKG read out and said 'if you don't get a pacemaker now you are going to die' - at the time Tracey's son was having health problems and she couldn't resist the doctor any more - so they scheduled a surgery to implant a pacemeker in June 2017
0:13:00
Tracey wasn't feeling any better after the operation - she had a friend who was on his 2nd pacemaker, and she compared notes with him - Tracey was actually feeling more tired and weaker, and that not what had been the experience of other patients receiving pacemakers, and by Dr Demede said she'd feel a lot better
0:14:00
Tracey had been told she would feel like she was running on an 8 cylinder engine after the operation - but Tracey had complications - a few days after surgery she was throwing up blood and had to go to the ER - she also had several infections at the incision point and that needed draining - during all this Dr Demede did not seem concerned, he was placating Tracey
0:15:00
After about 2.5 months Tracey was sick and tired of feeling sick and tired, and felt like Dr Demede wasn't listening to her - she asked for all her medical records so she could get a 2nd opinion - she went to her friend's electrophysiologist, they are cardiologist with extra training in these types of devices - Dr Levin at the University of Virginia - Tracey was in a lot of right side pain and an ambulance had to transfer her to the meeting
0:16:00
Dr Levin reviewed her medical file told Tracey 2 things: one -- you don't need a pacemaker, there is nothing in your medical records to indicate you need it --- and two, you've got vasovagal syncope --- so Tracey had 2 needless operations to implant devices attached to her heart
0:17:00
Dr Levin did a tilt table test on Tracey to determine if she had vasovagal syncope - they strap you onto a steel table and tilt the table to try to trick the brain into duplicating the same symptoms - Tracey got very dizzy and almost vomited, so she was positive for vasovagal syncope
0:18:00
From her medical records, it doesn't look like Dr Demede ran any tests that would determine vasovagal syncope - Tracey went to look for a lawyer - Dr Levine could operate to take out the pacemaker and heart monitor - that was set for early December 2017
0:19:00
But Tracey was sick with a bad sinus infection and they couldn't operate that day - so they re-scheduled to March, but it would be by a different doctor - so Tracey ended up at the University of Virginia - they had a theory that one of the leads in the pacemaker was broken, and that's why Tracey had pain because it was periodically shocking her, and it felt like a baby was kicking her
0:20:00
Waiting for the surgery, Tracey contiued to experience fatigue and intermittent shooting pain in her right side - in prepping for the surgery, they did a CT scan
0:21:00
They saw something they did not expect - during the pacemaker surgery, they use an instrument called a guide wire, it is to place the leads on the pacemaker - it has a handle and a long snakey wire, called a J-tip guide wire - sometime during that pacemaker surgery, the wire broke and was left tangled up in Tracey's heart and down her right side to her kidney
0:22:00
As best as they can determine, when the wire broke, it followed the blood flow to get tangled in her heart with the end entering her right kidney vein
0:23:00
It looped through her tricuspid valve in her heart and caused damage and had to be repaired - first Tracey's husband got a call to let him know what they found as Tracey was in a meeting with the anaesthesiologist - when Tracey saw her husband he was 'white as a sheet'
0:24:00
Tracey's husband pulled her out of the meeting to 'talk to you right now' - he told Tracey but it did not make sense to her, she thought she was being 'punked', somebody was playing an elaborate joke on her - it is still hard for her to understand how something like this could have happened - yes, she felt vindicated in why she had felt so sick
0:25:00
Tracey then had to have 2 surgeries - one to remove the pacemaker and the heart monitor, and another to remove the wire - but back in November when Tracey was having back pain and a neurologist had done some x-rays - the radiologist had seen the lower part of the wire
0:26:00
The radiologist sent the scans and a note to Tracey's primary doctor saying there was a wire in Tracey - the doctor did a few non-specific x-rays but concluded it was a defect in the x-ray machine
0:27:00
Because the wire had rubbed against the inside of her heart, it had healed into her heart and would have to be cut out - Dr Teeman of University of Virginia actually did the surgery - they were able to get most of the wire out and repair the heart wall damage with a plastic device called ring angioplasty to support the heart and prevent it from leaking so badly
0:28:00
They did the operation by going in through Tracey's ribs on her side, deflated her right lung, and accessed her heart - it was to cut down on the risk of infection, but it didn't - within a week Tracey was back in surgery to clean out the infection and start over
0:29:00
Because of that she was on heavy duty antibiotics and kept in the hospital for nearly 2 months - but they couldn't remove the bottom 3 inches of the wire, because Tracey would start bleeding heavily - so they sutured into the wall of the vein and left there - any time you have metal in the body, there will be particulate shedding
0:30:00
The guide wire was never intended to be left in the body, so she's still trying to find out exactly what it is made of - so its toxicity is unknown
0:31:00
Like other states, West Virginia has a cap on the amount a harmed patient can receive in a medical malpractice suit of $250,000 - or $500,000 if the injury is catastrophic
0:32:00
Tracey says the law around medical malpractice is a problem - there is no way for the public to be aware of the specifics of a doctors past errors - someone had found Tracey's lawsuit and posted the facts publicly
0:33:00
So any one who googles the doctors name will see that info as well - Tracey is still angry against the state because there is almost nothing from preventing this happening again - there is no accountability or assurance steps will be taken by the hospital - there is the state Board, but they take all kinds of medical complaints, not just 'never events' like Tracey's
0:34:00
They don't have the capacity to investigate all the medical errors, even 'catastrophic' ones like Tracey's - because the medical expenses and legal costs are so high, and the cap on settlement is so low, most lawyers in West Virginia won't take a case - the first 2 lawyers Tracey approached turned her down
0:35:00
When Tracey first told Scott she had a wire stuck in her heart, he imagined something 1 maybe 2 inches long - but it is actually 42 inches - Tracey arms are outstretched to show how long it is - she cannot understand how they could have forgot it - not just doctors, but others that are charged with monitoring fail safes
0:36:00
There were so many people that day that didn't do their job - Tracey has a deep mistrust of the medical profession - she questions everything now
0:37:00
But Tracey doesn't see it that way - Tracey says the anticipation of side effects from multiple medical errors is disturbing - Tracey hoped her husband comes back soon and retires and she remains relatively healthy for a long time in spite of it all
0:38:00
Tracey now has stage 2 lymphodema in her right leg, and starting stage 1 in her left leg - stage 3 is commonly known as elephantitis - the lymph fluid causes excess swelling and loss of mobility - and at times very painful - Tracey has had cellulitis because of it, which is life threatening - it has been a series of catastrophic events
0:39:00
Tracey feels like her life has prepared her for this - she has gotten used to hardships - just this past year, her son died unexpectedly of cancer and a week later her husband got deployed to Iraq - Tracey says she absorbs things and goes on - and you can't fight everything, sometimes the situation is what it is
0:40:00
Tracey does have days when she wants to throw things at the wall because she's so angry, but most of the time she tries not to dwell on it - Tracey's husband, a Marine, thinks she is the strongest person he's ever met
6:52:00
But Tracey doesn't see it that way - Tracey says the anticipation of side effects from multiple medical erros is disturbing - Tracey hoped her husbanc comes back soon and retires and she remains relatively healthy for a long time in spite of it all
0:42:00
Tracey is not sure when her husband will return home because of the COVID pandemic - Tracey hopes the medical system will start reporting serious medical errors, and a process in place for patients - and how can you make an informed decision if you don't have all the facts
0:43:00
Tracey says there needs to be a reporting agency - when she did research, there were 49 states have a reporting agency of some type that tracks the medical errors and sees that something is done - one state has nothing, it is a totally voluntary system, they are left to police themselves - that is Tracey's state, West Virginia
0:44:00
And that goes a way of explaining how this happened to Tracey - there is no accountability, and because there is a settlement cap, doctors know how much a settlement will cost - Tracey believes catastrophic never events she be exempt from the settlement cap
0:45:00
Tracey has reached out to a couple of congressman and politicians but they are involed in COVID so she doesn't expect to hear anything soon - Tracey will probably never know whey they left the wire in her body because West Virginia doensn't require an explanation - she has to make peace with it and go on with the rest of her life - Tracey plans to get a Phoenix tattoo over the scar, appropriate since she's come back
 
Connect with Tracey Wilson: Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/tracey.wilson.315428'>https://www.facebook.com/tracey.wilson.315428</a>
 
Info on West Virginia caps and Malpractice Insurance: <a href='https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/medical-malpractice/laws-west-virginia.html'>https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/medical-malpractice/laws-west-virginia.html</a>
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<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
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<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I connected with Tracey Wilson about her experience with medical error and she told me that a surgeon had unknowingly left a piece of wire in her heart, I squirmed a wee bit at the thought of it, and imagined the wire was maybe an inch long.</p>
<p>Then Tracey sent me a picture of her holding the wire, her arms were outstretched on either side of her, gripping a wire that measured 42 inches in length. After I picked my jaw up off the floor, I knew I had to interview Tracey to find out how this happened and how she managed to survive what is called in the health care sector as a ‘never event’, as in ‘it never should have happened’.</p>
<p>As it turns out, Tracey’s medical error experience of having a long piece of wire accidentally left curled up in her heart, was not a one-off event. As surgeons tried to remove a piece of the wire, they messed up some of her lymph nodes giving Tracey nasty side effects. </p>
<p>Then they tried to correct that error, and triggered lymphedema and now Tracey’s legs have lymph fluid pooling in them, causing swelling, loss of mobility and pain.</p>
<p>As Tracey says, ‘it has been a series of catastrophic events’.</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
 
***Disclaimer: Settlement of a medical malpractice case in West Virginia is NOT an admission of guilt. West Virginia is a 'no fault settlement' state.***
0:05:00
Tracey grew up in Bucks County, Pennsylvania - in a small town called Sellersville - everybody knew everybody and Tracey's family had been there for generations - Tracey says she had an average childhood, but spent some time in foster care, but for the most part of fairly happy kid - Tracey did not like school, she had buck teeth and kids were cruel - she was pretty much a loner, but loved art
0:06:00
Tracey went to college, it took her 7 years to graduate, but she was determined - her mother raised 3 kids on welfare and Tracey did not want to fall into that trap - she wanted to make something of her life - she went to college for biological sciences so she could pursue animal husbandry
0:07:00
In 2016 Tracey started to have fainting spells - one of the while she was driving - she was hospitalized for 5 days for testing - her primary care doctor said he was sending Tracey to a cardiologist to be assessed for vasovagal syncope and bradychardia
0:08:00
Bradycardia is an exceptionally slow heart beat and it will cause low blood pressure - vasovagal syncope is a malfunction of the vagus nerve - 2 symptoms are: fainting as the sight of blood, and narcolepsy - they are triggers that cause loss of consciousness - so figuring out the trigger is important
0:09:00
Tracey was sent to cardiologist Dr Demede - Tracey had been wearing a Holter monitor that constantly recorded her heart function and the doctor could download the activity - during this Tracey was on a medication called purolo, a medication to control heart beat, but it made Tracey heart stop for 2.3 seconds - Tracey was asleep and did not notice, but the next day she got a frantic phone call to come immediately to the hospital - Dr Demede was pushing hard to put a pacemaker in
0:10:00
But one of his colleagues thought the heart stopping maybe due to the medication - so they took Tracey off the medication and monitored her heart - it turns out it was probably the medication that made her heart stop - Tracey was against a pacemaker because it represented that her heart was not able to do its job - but it didn't explain her fainting spells
0:11:00
They did some other tests, but Dr Demede was very determined that a pacemaker was the solution - Tracey spent a year resisting a pacemaker - she was fitted with an internal heart monitor in her chest that monitored her at all times, it had a constant upload - it would perhaps show what Tracey's heart problem was about
0:12:00
About 1.5 weeks later Tracey started to feel very, very tired - she called the doctor's office and asked them to check her heart monitor results - they immediately called her back and told her to come into the office right away - when she got there, the doctor showed her the EKG read out and said 'if you don't get a pacemaker now you are going to die' - at the time Tracey's son was having health problems and she couldn't resist the doctor any more - so they scheduled a surgery to implant a pacemeker in June 2017
0:13:00
Tracey wasn't feeling any better after the operation - she had a friend who was on his 2nd pacemaker, and she compared notes with him - Tracey was actually feeling more tired and weaker, and that not what had been the experience of other patients receiving pacemakers, and by Dr Demede said she'd feel a lot better
0:14:00
Tracey had been told she would feel like she was running on an 8 cylinder engine after the operation - but Tracey had complications - a few days after surgery she was throwing up blood and had to go to the ER - she also had several infections at the incision point and that needed draining - during all this Dr Demede did not seem concerned, he was placating Tracey
0:15:00
After about 2.5 months Tracey was sick and tired of feeling sick and tired, and felt like Dr Demede wasn't listening to her - she asked for all her medical records so she could get a 2nd opinion - she went to her friend's electrophysiologist, they are cardiologist with extra training in these types of devices - Dr Levin at the University of Virginia - Tracey was in a lot of right side pain and an ambulance had to transfer her to the meeting
0:16:00
Dr Levin reviewed her medical file told Tracey 2 things: one -- you don't need a pacemaker, there is nothing in your medical records to indicate you need it --- and two, you've got vasovagal syncope --- so Tracey had 2 needless operations to implant devices attached to her heart
0:17:00
Dr Levin did a tilt table test on Tracey to determine if she had vasovagal syncope - they strap you onto a steel table and tilt the table to try to trick the brain into duplicating the same symptoms - Tracey got very dizzy and almost vomited, so she was positive for vasovagal syncope
0:18:00
From her medical records, it doesn't look like Dr Demede ran any tests that would determine vasovagal syncope - Tracey went to look for a lawyer - Dr Levine could operate to take out the pacemaker and heart monitor - that was set for early December 2017
0:19:00
But Tracey was sick with a bad sinus infection and they couldn't operate that day - so they re-scheduled to March, but it would be by a different doctor - so Tracey ended up at the University of Virginia - they had a theory that one of the leads in the pacemaker was broken, and that's why Tracey had pain because it was periodically shocking her, and it felt like a baby was kicking her
0:20:00
Waiting for the surgery, Tracey contiued to experience fatigue and intermittent shooting pain in her right side - in prepping for the surgery, they did a CT scan
0:21:00
They saw something they did not expect - during the pacemaker surgery, they use an instrument called a guide wire, it is to place the leads on the pacemaker - it has a handle and a long snakey wire, called a J-tip guide wire - sometime during that pacemaker surgery, the wire broke and was left tangled up in Tracey's heart and down her right side to her kidney
0:22:00
As best as they can determine, when the wire broke, it followed the blood flow to get tangled in her heart with the end entering her right kidney vein
0:23:00
It looped through her tricuspid valve in her heart and caused damage and had to be repaired - first Tracey's husband got a call to let him know what they found as Tracey was in a meeting with the anaesthesiologist - when Tracey saw her husband he was 'white as a sheet'
0:24:00
Tracey's husband pulled her out of the meeting to 'talk to you right now' - he told Tracey but it did not make sense to her, she thought she was being 'punked', somebody was playing an elaborate joke on her - it is still hard for her to understand how something like this could have happened - yes, she felt vindicated in why she had felt so sick
0:25:00
Tracey then had to have 2 surgeries - one to remove the pacemaker and the heart monitor, and another to remove the wire - but back in November when Tracey was having back pain and a neurologist had done some x-rays - the radiologist had seen the lower part of the wire
0:26:00
The radiologist sent the scans and a note to Tracey's primary doctor saying there was a wire in Tracey - the doctor did a few non-specific x-rays but concluded it was a defect in the x-ray machine
0:27:00
Because the wire had rubbed against the inside of her heart, it had healed into her heart and would have to be cut out - Dr Teeman of University of Virginia actually did the surgery - they were able to get most of the wire out and repair the heart wall damage with a plastic device called ring angioplasty to support the heart and prevent it from leaking so badly
0:28:00
They did the operation by going in through Tracey's ribs on her side, deflated her right lung, and accessed her heart - it was to cut down on the risk of infection, but it didn't - within a week Tracey was back in surgery to clean out the infection and start over
0:29:00
Because of that she was on heavy duty antibiotics and kept in the hospital for nearly 2 months - but they couldn't remove the bottom 3 inches of the wire, because Tracey would start bleeding heavily - so they sutured into the wall of the vein and left there - any time you have metal in the body, there will be particulate shedding
0:30:00
The guide wire was never intended to be left in the body, so she's still trying to find out exactly what it is made of - so its toxicity is unknown
0:31:00
Like other states, West Virginia has a cap on the amount a harmed patient can receive in a medical malpractice suit of $250,000 - or $500,000 if the injury is catastrophic
0:32:00
Tracey says the law around medical malpractice is a problem - there is no way for the public to be aware of the specifics of a doctors past errors - someone had found Tracey's lawsuit and posted the facts publicly
0:33:00
So any one who googles the doctors name will see that info as well - Tracey is still angry against the state because there is almost nothing from preventing this happening again - there is no accountability or assurance steps will be taken by the hospital - there is the state Board, but they take all kinds of medical complaints, not just 'never events' like Tracey's
0:34:00
They don't have the capacity to investigate all the medical errors, even 'catastrophic' ones like Tracey's - because the medical expenses and legal costs are so high, and the cap on settlement is so low, most lawyers in West Virginia won't take a case - the first 2 lawyers Tracey approached turned her down
0:35:00
When Tracey first told Scott she had a wire stuck in her heart, he imagined something 1 maybe 2 inches long - but it is actually 42 inches - Tracey arms are outstretched to show how long it is - she cannot understand how they could have forgot it - not just doctors, but others that are charged with monitoring fail safes
0:36:00
There were so many people that day that didn't do their job - Tracey has a deep mistrust of the medical profession - she questions everything now
0:37:00
But Tracey doesn't see it that way - Tracey says the anticipation of side effects from multiple medical errors is disturbing - Tracey hoped her husband comes back soon and retires and she remains relatively healthy for a long time in spite of it all
0:38:00
Tracey now has stage 2 lymphodema in her right leg, and starting stage 1 in her left leg - stage 3 is commonly known as elephantitis - the lymph fluid causes excess swelling and loss of mobility - and at times very painful - Tracey has had cellulitis because of it, which is life threatening - it has been a series of catastrophic events
0:39:00
Tracey feels like her life has prepared her for this - she has gotten used to hardships - just this past year, her son died unexpectedly of cancer and a week later her husband got deployed to Iraq - Tracey says she absorbs things and goes on - and you can't fight everything, sometimes the situation is what it is
0:40:00
Tracey does have days when she wants to throw things at the wall because she's so angry, but most of the time she tries not to dwell on it - Tracey's husband, a Marine, thinks she is the strongest person he's ever met
6:52:00
But Tracey doesn't see it that way - Tracey says the anticipation of side effects from multiple medical erros is disturbing - Tracey hoped her husbanc comes back soon and retires and she remains relatively healthy for a long time in spite of it all
0:42:00
Tracey is not sure when her husband will return home because of the COVID pandemic - Tracey hopes the medical system will start reporting serious medical errors, and a process in place for patients - and how can you make an informed decision if you don't have all the facts
0:43:00
Tracey says there needs to be a reporting agency - when she did research, there were 49 states have a reporting agency of some type that tracks the medical errors and sees that something is done - one state has nothing, it is a totally voluntary system, they are left to police themselves - that is Tracey's state, West Virginia
0:44:00
And that goes a way of explaining how this happened to Tracey - there is no accountability, and because there is a settlement cap, doctors know how much a settlement will cost - Tracey believes catastrophic never events she be exempt from the settlement cap
0:45:00
Tracey has reached out to a couple of congressman and politicians but they are involed in COVID so she doesn't expect to hear anything soon - Tracey will probably never know whey they left the wire in her body because West Virginia doensn't require an explanation - she has to make peace with it and go on with the rest of her life - Tracey plans to get a Phoenix tattoo over the scar, appropriate since she's come back
 
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Info on West Virginia caps and Malpractice Insurance: <a href='https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/medical-malpractice/laws-west-virginia.html'>https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/medical-malpractice/laws-west-virginia.html</a>
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<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
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<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When I connected with Tracey Wilson about her experience with medical error and she told me that a surgeon had unknowingly left a piece of wire in her heart, I squirmed a wee bit at the thought of it, and imagined the wire was maybe an inch long.
Then Tracey sent me a picture of her holding the wire, her arms were outstretched on either side of her, gripping a wire that measured 42 inches in length. After I picked my jaw up off the floor, I knew I had to interview Tracey to find out how this happened and how she managed to survive what is called in the health care sector as a ‘never event’, as in ‘it never should have happened’.
As it turns out, Tracey’s medical error experience of having a long piece of wire accidentally left curled up in her heart, was not a one-off event. As surgeons tried to remove a piece of the wire, they messed up some of her lymph nodes giving Tracey nasty side effects. 
Then they tried to correct that error, and triggered lymphedema and now Tracey’s legs have lymph fluid pooling in them, causing swelling, loss of mobility and pain.
As Tracey says, ‘it has been a series of catastrophic events’.

SHOW NOTES:
 
***Disclaimer: Settlement of a medical malpractice case in West Virginia is NOT an admission of guilt. West Virginia is a 'no fault settlement' state.***
0:05:00
Tracey grew up in Bucks County, Pennsylvania - in a small town called Sellersville - everybody knew everybody and Tracey's family had been there for generations - Tracey says she had an average childhood, but spent some time in foster care, but for the most part of fairly happy kid - Tracey did not like school, she had buck teeth and kids were cruel - she was pretty much a loner, but loved art
0:06:00
Tracey went to college, it took her 7 years to graduate, but she was determined - her mother raised 3 kids on welfare and Tracey did not want to fall into that trap - she wanted to make something of her life - she went to college for biological sciences so she could pursue animal husbandry
0:07:00
In 2016 Tracey started to have fainting spells - one of the while she was driving - she was hospitalized for 5 days for testing - her primary care doctor said he was sending Tracey to a cardiologist to be assessed for vasovagal syncope and bradychardia
0:08:00
Bradycardia is an exceptionally slow heart beat and it will cause low blood pressure - vasovagal syncope is a malfunction of the vagus nerve - 2 symptoms are: fainting as the sight of blood, and narcolepsy - they are triggers that cause loss of consciousness - so figuring out the trigger is important
0:09:00
Tracey was sent to cardiologist Dr Demede - Tracey had been wearing a Holter monitor that constantly recorded her heart function and the doctor could download the activity - during this Tracey was on a medication called purolo, a medication to control heart beat, but it made Tracey heart stop for 2.3 seconds - Tracey was asleep and did not notice, but the next day she got a frantic phone call to come immediately to the hospital - Dr Demede was pushing hard to put a pacemaker in
0:10:00
But one of his colleagues thought the heart stopping maybe due to the medication - so they took Tracey off the medication and monitored her heart - it turns out it was probably the medication that made her heart stop - Tracey was against a pacemaker because it represented that her heart was not able to do its job - but it didn't explain her fainting spells
0:11:00
They did some other tests, but Dr Demede was very determined that a pacemaker was the solution - Tracey spent a year resisting a pacemaker - she was fitted with an internal heart monitor in her chest that monitored her at all times, it had a constant upload - it would perhaps show what Tracey's heart problem was about
0:12:00
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>For 20 years, accountant Susan Shepherd was given multiple psychiatric medications -- but she didn’t get better, she got worse -- to the point of unrelenting suicidal thoughts.</p>
<p>Doing her own research into psychiatric medications, and recognizing how her body was responding to them, Susan had to go around her GP and psychiatrist to get to a neurologist for a proper diagnosis: ADHD and dyspraxia. As Susan says, “I have gone through life with an unrecognized neuro diverse condition”. </p>
<p>But Susan’s good news of finally getting a correct diagnosis was countered by the horror show of trying to withdraw from the psych drugs. Doctors rarely inform patients about the disturbing side effects a person can experience going through withdrawal and will often deny those symptoms as attributable to the psych meds, and dismiss them as part of the patient’s so-called mental illness.</p>
<p>Unsurprisingly, Susan is angry at the medical system for pushing unproven and toxic psych meds on trusting and unsuspecting patients like herself.</p>
<p>Now Susan is sharing her story of how she overcame severe withdrawal symptoms so others avoid the same fate of years of pysch meds causing physical and mental suffering, social and emotional shame, broken relationships and lost careers.</p>
<p>In spite of the multiple losses caused by being poly drugged for years with mind-numbing and intellect-dumbing psych meds, Susan feels better and more alive in every way today.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:06:00
Susan was born in Scotland and her family immigrated to Canada when she was 6 -- her brother had asthma and the Scottish climate was not helping, so they moved to Canada where they had some relatives - and her brother's asthma was helped - her father got a sales job in Edmonton for a few years, then to Winnipeg, Thunder Bay, Vancouver, Toronto - but she now lives in a small town
0:07:00
Susan went to university for a couple of years and got married at 20 years old - her health issues started about 2000 - but as a child she struggled with depression, not feeling she was good enough, perfectionism
0:08:00
Normal emotions we all experience and have to learn to deal with - but in 2000 things went wrong - Susan's mother died a few years earlier and it was traumatic for Susan, it was the lynch pin for her poor health - to deal with the grief after her Mom died, Susan went back to school with 2 small kids at home - one of the things she was worried about was being older and impovrished
0:09:00
She spent 10 years working full time, getting up at 4:30am, 2 kids and husband, to ensure she would retire well and toward her CMA (Certified Managment Accountant)
0:10:00
In rerospect Susan was experiencing deep grief for her Mom, who was her anchor - so Susan lost a big piece of herself and she didn't get any support
0:11:00
She's not blaming anyone, it was circumstances - she's not blaming her family and friends, its just the way it was
0:12:00
Her marriage was falling apart at the same time - Susan ended up at a psychiatrist's office - years earlier she had tried an antidepressant but didn't like the way it made her feel so she never continued to take them
0:13:00
But because Susan was feeling so bad and her family was worried, they pressured her to take the pills - the psychiatrist started her on an antidepressant and benzodiazipine (clonapin) - same on Jordan Peterson is trying to get off of in Russia - Susan was polydrugged right off the bat
0:14:00
In retrospect Susan can see what happened - some of the meds were tranquilizers that numbed down her emotions, so she couldn't 'feel' as much, so she felt better - but there were other side effects that were hard to notice at the time - some doctors are speaking out about these side effects
0:15:00
"Spell binding" is a term Peter Breggin uses, he's an expert witness - the brain can't tell you if there is something wrong or not working properly
0:16:00
Susan tried to come off them after a year or two, and felt horrible - her doctor said it was her mental illness that was making her feel bad (not withdrawal) - Susan wanted to stop them because she wasn't feeling good, but it was hard to explain good at the time: couldn't think, couldn't focus
0:17:00
It was like an electrician randomly cut some connections and fused others together, so Susan didn't feel like 'herself' - she was a very social person, but she wasn't able to communicate with friends, or have an intellectual debate - although she knew facts and info, she couldn't get it from her brain to her mouth - very frightening
0:18:00
We are all individuals with different connections, so the meds don't make sense to Susan - there is no evidence, there use is not based on fact, no tests
0:19:00
They are making billions and billions - and psychiatrists only review what medications you've been on and give you more - they know nothing about human behaviour - and the many others she's spoken to have had the same experience
0:20:00
Instead of finding out what's happening in your life that may be impacting mental health, they immediately diagnose a brain disorder and meds will fix your chemicals - but at the time, Susan believed the psychiatrist when he said she needed the meds - Susan added meditation, research, deep dives into her past - she tried lots of things to feel better - but nothing worked
0:21:00
And they wouldn't work because her brain was being chemically altered and tortured - Susan felt so bad that the last few years on the meds she thought about suicide all day long, and would cry - that is not existing, no quality of life - and then when she got off the meds she realized what the system had done to her
0:22:00
Now Susan sees the research about withdrawal symptoms and realized it wasn't mental health - Susan was on the meds for about 15 years, stopped in the last 3 years
0:23:00
Susan was feeling so bad that instead of just crying during the psych appointment she asked him to 'do something, I can't exist like this' - he suggested ECT (electroconvulsive therapy, or shock treatment) - but Susan had a fear of ECT, she thought it was barbaric - the idea of zapping someone's brain with electricity has no logic - it was used to torture people
0:24:00
Susan had read about some of the torture techniques of WW II - ECT sounded risky and dodgy so Susan said 'no' to the psychiatrist - so he sent her to a specialist in psychiatric pharmacology - she also participated in a cogntive research study, and she was scoring well below her potential
0:25:00
The psych specialist told Susan she had treatment resistant depression - putting the onus on the patient, it is their fault they feel that way - in her record, he had listed about 30 meds for Susan to try, some of them diabetes drugs - he suggested a stimulant, an amphetamine and Susan agreed
0:26:00
Susan says no matter how bad you feel without psych drugs, it doesn't compare to how bad you can feel on them - within 2 hours of taking the stimulant, the horrible feelings went away - Susan started to research it, what is it? what is it used for? what is it doing?
0:27:00
Susan's research found the drug was used for ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) and then researched what ADHD was - and recognized herself and that ADHD could explain a lot of what she experienced growing up, but was only diagnosed 3 years ago - the more she researched all the meds, the more she didn't want to be on them, some of them were contraindicated for people with ADHD
0:28:00
ADHD is neurodiversity, it is not a mental illness - realizing what the stimulant did for Susan, she wanted to get off the meds
0:29:00
The psychiatrist said 'no, you need to take them - you don't have ADHD and I won't send you for testing' - Susan decided to come off the meds any way and she didn't go back - she used the amphetamine to wean herself off the psych drugs
0:30:00
While the stimulat was good for Susan's brain, it didn't agree with her body and she got side effects - so she used it as little as possible - only when she couldn't stand the suicidal thoughts - she would break open the capsule to get a micro dose, far less than the minimum dose - about every 4 days to take her out of the suicidal mindset, a reprieve for a few days - eventually she got better and didn't feel like that any more and that's how she got off them
0:31:00
Susan tapered off over a month - she didn't know how to do it, and has read much about withdrawal - hers could have been much easier if she'd known 'withdrawal' was a process
0:32:00
Susan had been brain washed into thinking she was mentally ill, so also had to overcome doubts of her own experiences - she had to give her brain time to heal
0:33:00
Susan feels 100% better - last summer Susan was invited by a friend to a cottage and Susan had a strangely familiar sensation and realized it was excitement, she hadn't felt it in years - those things are still happening - much of her emotional life was gone for 15 years
0:34:00
The more she heals, the more she realizes she lost during those years - it is painful, a lot of loss - she lost friends, family - her sons are not even aware Susan is off the psych meds, there was no fight, they just drifted away - there's no blame, things happen - so many people's lives have been destroyed and ruined by these meds
0:35:00
Its a public health crisis - the lies and deceit is still going on - its hard to recognize that human beings can be that depraved
0:36:00
In her accounting career, Susan couldn't figure out why she couldn't concentrate or think, was losing control of her emotions, it was very difficult and she kept losing her job - she tried so hard, repeatedly - not only was she damaged by the drugs, but by beleiving that she was the problem, undermined her confidence
0:37:00
So Susan had a lot of negative self talk, self blame - but it has been a huge shift since she got off the meds - she got herself back - Susan has a dear friend of 40 years - they drifted apart during the 'psych years' but have re-connected
0:38:00
Her friend said to her 'you're back' and it was nice to hear
0:39:00
Susan improved a lot the first year of the meds - there would be short amount of time when she would feel 'like herself' and they became longer and more frequent - Susan held onto those as motivation - but it takes time, and you have to be kind to your brain and your self - compassionate
0:40:00
The brain has to re-balance - not to mention the physical withdrawal like nuerological issues - Susan experienced body temperature dysfunction - Susan would get hot and felt like she was drenched in candle wax - her feet swelled up and she counldn't walk barefoot for 1.5 years because they were so sensitive and swollen
0:41:00
Her body needed to detox from the chemicals - headaches, rapid heart rate, brain zaps in her brain, a very common and very frightening and unpleasant - with too much alcohol, it will be out of your system in a few days, and you'll feel better
0:42:00
But it is not the same with psych drugs, the recovery is years - and some people never make a full recovery - Susan doesn't know if she'll fully recover because she's still seeing new things re-emerge back to her - so Susan is still healing - it was 1.5 years ago she had the last micro dose of amphetamine - also healing from how the medical system treated her
0:43:00
Going through the rage, the grief, the self-blame - research helped Susan realize what the meds were doing - there is also online support, like the over 100,000 on the Benzo Buddies Facebook, for people withdrawing from benzos
0:44:00
It is hard to find research on outcomes, no data available - Susan has her medical file that was sent to CPP Disability (Canadian Pension Plan)
0:45:00
Susan didn't realize the inner strength she had - the more she found out, the more she wanted to know what happened to her, and what's happening from a big picture perspective
0:46:00
Susan says it is horrifying what is happening, worse than she could've imagined - Susan doesn't think doctors have any business prescribing meds they don't know about - psychiatrists do know, but GPS may not, they are following what they are being told
0:47:00
Looking at the side effects of those meds, it is what they are prescribing the drug for - it is a money maker - but GPs are responsible for 60-70% of psych med prescriptions - and they prescribe them for menopause, skin rashes - and they don't understand what they're doing - but there is no accountability
0:48:00
Susan called over 20 lawyers but not 1 would even talk to her about medical malpractice because she actually has ADHD - Susan wants to know what they did, and how they can explain that she's well now without taking the psych meds
0:49:00
The UN Rapparteour is starting to describe psych drugs as psychological torture - lawyers know they have less than a 2% chance of winning even if they can get the case to trial - and taxpayers (in Canada) pay for the doctor's lawyers
0:50:00
Doctors are a protected social class - protected from legal consequences - they are omnipotent - they are medially and legally untouchable - Susan knows one doctor who was brought 7 times on sexual assault to the College of Physicians and Surgeons, and it wasn't until the 7th time that he lost his license
0:51:00
And that was just 7 peopole reporting him - doctors cover for each other, and lie to protect each other - it is systemic - Susan has no contact now with the medical system, she has zero trust - she knows they lie and she can prove that - they don't know about the meds, and she can prove that
0:52:00
If she had to go to the doctor now, she'd do her own research, review tests - they don't know about the meds, and they don't know about nutritional deficiencies that can cause mental health symptoms
0:53:00
Most people are short on magnesium and vitamin D - it is missing out of our soil and food - those supplementations may help with symptoms, but doctors will prescribe psych drugs - and they also deplete vitamins and minerals
0:54:00
All kinds of simple nutritional supplements can help - some of the 'old wives tales' make a lot of sense - they may not have known why back then, but science does show
0:55:00
baking soda for example can help fend off virus and bacteria by creating an alkaline environment - but it all boils down to a patient safety issue - there is a direct correlation with the increase in antidepressant and antipsychotic prescriptions and the suicide rate
0:56:00
The increase in suicide after starting these meds is attributed by psychiatry as a result of the extra energy they create - Susan says 'no', the psych meds mess up brain chemistry and some people become susceptible to acting on a suicidal thought - psychiatry know this - there is a specific enzyme that processes these meds, and if you're deficient in it, you're in for a really rough ride
0:57:00
Susan says when you look at the research, the results are cherry-picked, and conflicts of interest because the research is usually sponsored by the pharmaceutical company - Susan was shocked to learn many of the papers are ghost written, getting Harvard professors to sign off on them - so its just marketing
0:58:00
Susan doesn't know what her future holds - she is financially ruined - she has to reinvent herself and get back to work, she'd love to be working, but her reputation has been destroyed - she's stuck and doesn't know what to do , it is frustrating, but she is figuring it out
0:59:00
Because she feels so much better, she has hope again - it was gone - when you have hope you never know how your life might change - Susan didn't struggle to get this far to give up now - she wants to prevent others from going though what she went through - it took away her potential, her every thing - the life she could have had was taken from her - and now that she had it back, she wants to make the most of it
1:00:00
Susan is able to socially interact again, including reaching out to Scott to be a podcast guest - she wouldn't have been able to do that 6 months ago - Susan now feels like she's got momentum in a good directions - she now feels hope and excitement, instead of terror and wanting to die
1:01:00
Being able to speak to people again, and access her thoughts, something she was not able to do before - Susan would love to be able to use her lived experience to help others - Susan looked into peer support, but it was just about getting people to take their medication
1:01:00
There are online psych survivor groups, and Susan has done a little peer support that way - it bothers Susan that we are spending billions of dollars on a mental health care system that doesn't work
1:03:00
We're wasting our money and damaging people - and they can't prove outcomes, there is no data - they are lying like sidewalks and nobody is calling them out on it - is everyone more concerned about their stock porfolio?
1:04:00
Most psychiatrists make close to half a million dollars a year, and they are poisoning people - take a look at their waiting rooms, the people are not 'there' - and that's the doctor's fault
1:05:00
The marketing and advertisements make public awareness difficult - Susan says more people would successfully come off the pysch drugs if they had proper info and support - but the critical piece is to stop people from taking them
1:06:00
So there needs to be an alternative - right now people are not being listened to, and end up taking pysch meds and getting into a mess, and this is what is happening to millions of people -- I ask Susan how's she's going to do something nice for herself today? -- Susan says she's already gone for a walk and always enjoys the little things in life
 
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For 20 years, accountant Susan Shepherd was given multiple psychiatric medications -- but she didn’t get better, she got worse -- to the point of unrelenting suicidal thoughts.</p>
<p>Doing her own research into psychiatric medications, and recognizing how her body was responding to them, Susan had to go around her GP and psychiatrist to get to a neurologist for a proper diagnosis: ADHD and dyspraxia. As Susan says, “I have gone through life with an unrecognized neuro diverse condition”. </p>
<p>But Susan’s good news of finally getting a correct diagnosis was countered by the horror show of trying to withdraw from the psych drugs. Doctors rarely inform patients about the disturbing side effects a person can experience going through withdrawal and will often deny those symptoms as attributable to the psych meds, and dismiss them as part of the patient’s so-called mental illness.</p>
<p>Unsurprisingly, Susan is angry at the medical system for pushing unproven and toxic psych meds on trusting and unsuspecting patients like herself.</p>
<p>Now Susan is sharing her story of how she overcame severe withdrawal symptoms so others avoid the same fate of years of pysch meds causing physical and mental suffering, social and emotional shame, broken relationships and lost careers.</p>
<p>In spite of the multiple losses caused by being poly drugged for years with mind-numbing and intellect-dumbing psych meds, Susan feels better and more alive in every way today.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:06:00
Susan was born in Scotland and her family immigrated to Canada when she was 6 -- her brother had asthma and the Scottish climate was not helping, so they moved to Canada where they had some relatives - and her brother's asthma was helped - her father got a sales job in Edmonton for a few years, then to Winnipeg, Thunder Bay, Vancouver, Toronto - but she now lives in a small town
0:07:00
Susan went to university for a couple of years and got married at 20 years old - her health issues started about 2000 - but as a child she struggled with depression, not feeling she was good enough, perfectionism
0:08:00
Normal emotions we all experience and have to learn to deal with - but in 2000 things went wrong - Susan's mother died a few years earlier and it was traumatic for Susan, it was the lynch pin for her poor health - to deal with the grief after her Mom died, Susan went back to school with 2 small kids at home - one of the things she was worried about was being older and impovrished
0:09:00
She spent 10 years working full time, getting up at 4:30am, 2 kids and husband, to ensure she would retire well and toward her CMA (Certified Managment Accountant)
0:10:00
In rerospect Susan was experiencing deep grief for her Mom, who was her anchor - so Susan lost a big piece of herself and she didn't get any support
0:11:00
She's not blaming anyone, it was circumstances - she's not blaming her family and friends, its just the way it was
0:12:00
Her marriage was falling apart at the same time - Susan ended up at a psychiatrist's office - years earlier she had tried an antidepressant but didn't like the way it made her feel so she never continued to take them
0:13:00
But because Susan was feeling so bad and her family was worried, they pressured her to take the pills - the psychiatrist started her on an antidepressant and benzodiazipine (clonapin) - same on Jordan Peterson is trying to get off of in Russia - Susan was polydrugged right off the bat
0:14:00
In retrospect Susan can see what happened - some of the meds were tranquilizers that numbed down her emotions, so she couldn't 'feel' as much, so she felt better - but there were other side effects that were hard to notice at the time - some doctors are speaking out about these side effects
0:15:00
"Spell binding" is a term Peter Breggin uses, he's an expert witness - the brain can't tell you if there is something wrong or not working properly
0:16:00
Susan tried to come off them after a year or two, and felt horrible - her doctor said it was her mental illness that was making her feel bad (not withdrawal) - Susan wanted to stop them because she wasn't feeling good, but it was hard to explain good at the time: couldn't think, couldn't focus
0:17:00
It was like an electrician randomly cut some connections and fused others together, so Susan didn't feel like 'herself' - she was a very social person, but she wasn't able to communicate with friends, or have an intellectual debate - although she knew facts and info, she couldn't get it from her brain to her mouth - very frightening
0:18:00
We are all individuals with different connections, so the meds don't make sense to Susan - there is no evidence, there use is not based on fact, no tests
0:19:00
They are making billions and billions - and psychiatrists only review what medications you've been on and give you more - they know nothing about human behaviour - and the many others she's spoken to have had the same experience
0:20:00
Instead of finding out what's happening in your life that may be impacting mental health, they immediately diagnose a brain disorder and meds will fix your chemicals - but at the time, Susan believed the psychiatrist when he said she needed the meds - Susan added meditation, research, deep dives into her past - she tried lots of things to feel better - but nothing worked
0:21:00
And they wouldn't work because her brain was being chemically altered and tortured - Susan felt so bad that the last few years on the meds she thought about suicide all day long, and would cry - that is not existing, no quality of life - and then when she got off the meds she realized what the system had done to her
0:22:00
Now Susan sees the research about withdrawal symptoms and realized it wasn't mental health - Susan was on the meds for about 15 years, stopped in the last 3 years
0:23:00
Susan was feeling so bad that instead of just crying during the psych appointment she asked him to 'do something, I can't exist like this' - he suggested ECT (electroconvulsive therapy, or shock treatment) - but Susan had a fear of ECT, she thought it was barbaric - the idea of zapping someone's brain with electricity has no logic - it was used to torture people
0:24:00
Susan had read about some of the torture techniques of WW II - ECT sounded risky and dodgy so Susan said 'no' to the psychiatrist - so he sent her to a specialist in psychiatric pharmacology - she also participated in a cogntive research study, and she was scoring well below her potential
0:25:00
The psych specialist told Susan she had treatment resistant depression - putting the onus on the patient, it is their fault they feel that way - in her record, he had listed about 30 meds for Susan to try, some of them diabetes drugs - he suggested a stimulant, an amphetamine and Susan agreed
0:26:00
Susan says no matter how bad you feel without psych drugs, it doesn't compare to how bad you can feel on them - within 2 hours of taking the stimulant, the horrible feelings went away - Susan started to research it, what is it? what is it used for? what is it doing?
0:27:00
Susan's research found the drug was used for ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) and then researched what ADHD was - and recognized herself and that ADHD could explain a lot of what she experienced growing up, but was only diagnosed 3 years ago - the more she researched all the meds, the more she didn't want to be on them, some of them were contraindicated for people with ADHD
0:28:00
ADHD is neurodiversity, it is not a mental illness - realizing what the stimulant did for Susan, she wanted to get off the meds
0:29:00
The psychiatrist said 'no, you need to take them - you don't have ADHD and I won't send you for testing' - Susan decided to come off the meds any way and she didn't go back - she used the amphetamine to wean herself off the psych drugs
0:30:00
While the stimulat was good for Susan's brain, it didn't agree with her body and she got side effects - so she used it as little as possible - only when she couldn't stand the suicidal thoughts - she would break open the capsule to get a micro dose, far less than the minimum dose - about every 4 days to take her out of the suicidal mindset, a reprieve for a few days - eventually she got better and didn't feel like that any more and that's how she got off them
0:31:00
Susan tapered off over a month - she didn't know how to do it, and has read much about withdrawal - hers could have been much easier if she'd known 'withdrawal' was a process
0:32:00
Susan had been brain washed into thinking she was mentally ill, so also had to overcome doubts of her own experiences - she had to give her brain time to heal
0:33:00
Susan feels 100% better - last summer Susan was invited by a friend to a cottage and Susan had a strangely familiar sensation and realized it was excitement, she hadn't felt it in years - those things are still happening - much of her emotional life was gone for 15 years
0:34:00
The more she heals, the more she realizes she lost during those years - it is painful, a lot of loss - she lost friends, family - her sons are not even aware Susan is off the psych meds, there was no fight, they just drifted away - there's no blame, things happen - so many people's lives have been destroyed and ruined by these meds
0:35:00
Its a public health crisis - the lies and deceit is still going on - its hard to recognize that human beings can be that depraved
0:36:00
In her accounting career, Susan couldn't figure out why she couldn't concentrate or think, was losing control of her emotions, it was very difficult and she kept losing her job - she tried so hard, repeatedly - not only was she damaged by the drugs, but by beleiving that she was the problem, undermined her confidence
0:37:00
So Susan had a lot of negative self talk, self blame - but it has been a huge shift since she got off the meds - she got herself back - Susan has a dear friend of 40 years - they drifted apart during the 'psych years' but have re-connected
0:38:00
Her friend said to her 'you're back' and it was nice to hear
0:39:00
Susan improved a lot the first year of the meds - there would be short amount of time when she would feel 'like herself' and they became longer and more frequent - Susan held onto those as motivation - but it takes time, and you have to be kind to your brain and your self - compassionate
0:40:00
The brain has to re-balance - not to mention the physical withdrawal like nuerological issues - Susan experienced body temperature dysfunction - Susan would get hot and felt like she was drenched in candle wax - her feet swelled up and she counldn't walk barefoot for 1.5 years because they were so sensitive and swollen
0:41:00
Her body needed to detox from the chemicals - headaches, rapid heart rate, brain zaps in her brain, a very common and very frightening and unpleasant - with too much alcohol, it will be out of your system in a few days, and you'll feel better
0:42:00
But it is not the same with psych drugs, the recovery is years - and some people never make a full recovery - Susan doesn't know if she'll fully recover because she's still seeing new things re-emerge back to her - so Susan is still healing - it was 1.5 years ago she had the last micro dose of amphetamine - also healing from how the medical system treated her
0:43:00
Going through the rage, the grief, the self-blame - research helped Susan realize what the meds were doing - there is also online support, like the over 100,000 on the Benzo Buddies Facebook, for people withdrawing from benzos
0:44:00
It is hard to find research on outcomes, no data available - Susan has her medical file that was sent to CPP Disability (Canadian Pension Plan)
0:45:00
Susan didn't realize the inner strength she had - the more she found out, the more she wanted to know what happened to her, and what's happening from a big picture perspective
0:46:00
Susan says it is horrifying what is happening, worse than she could've imagined - Susan doesn't think doctors have any business prescribing meds they don't know about - psychiatrists do know, but GPS may not, they are following what they are being told
0:47:00
Looking at the side effects of those meds, it is what they are prescribing the drug for - it is a money maker - but GPs are responsible for 60-70% of psych med prescriptions - and they prescribe them for menopause, skin rashes - and they don't understand what they're doing - but there is no accountability
0:48:00
Susan called over 20 lawyers but not 1 would even talk to her about medical malpractice because she actually has ADHD - Susan wants to know what they did, and how they can explain that she's well now without taking the psych meds
0:49:00
The UN Rapparteour is starting to describe psych drugs as psychological torture - lawyers know they have less than a 2% chance of winning even if they can get the case to trial - and taxpayers (in Canada) pay for the doctor's lawyers
0:50:00
Doctors are a protected social class - protected from legal consequences - they are omnipotent - they are medially and legally untouchable - Susan knows one doctor who was brought 7 times on sexual assault to the College of Physicians and Surgeons, and it wasn't until the 7th time that he lost his license
0:51:00
And that was just 7 peopole reporting him - doctors cover for each other, and lie to protect each other - it is systemic - Susan has no contact now with the medical system, she has zero trust - she knows they lie and she can prove that - they don't know about the meds, and she can prove that
0:52:00
If she had to go to the doctor now, she'd do her own research, review tests - they don't know about the meds, and they don't know about nutritional deficiencies that can cause mental health symptoms
0:53:00
Most people are short on magnesium and vitamin D - it is missing out of our soil and food - those supplementations may help with symptoms, but doctors will prescribe psych drugs - and they also deplete vitamins and minerals
0:54:00
All kinds of simple nutritional supplements can help - some of the 'old wives tales' make a lot of sense - they may not have known why back then, but science does show
0:55:00
baking soda for example can help fend off virus and bacteria by creating an alkaline environment - but it all boils down to a patient safety issue - there is a direct correlation with the increase in antidepressant and antipsychotic prescriptions and the suicide rate
0:56:00
The increase in suicide after starting these meds is attributed by psychiatry as a result of the extra energy they create - Susan says 'no', the psych meds mess up brain chemistry and some people become susceptible to acting on a suicidal thought - psychiatry know this - there is a specific enzyme that processes these meds, and if you're deficient in it, you're in for a really rough ride
0:57:00
Susan says when you look at the research, the results are cherry-picked, and conflicts of interest because the research is usually sponsored by the pharmaceutical company - Susan was shocked to learn many of the papers are ghost written, getting Harvard professors to sign off on them - so its just marketing
0:58:00
Susan doesn't know what her future holds - she is financially ruined - she has to reinvent herself and get back to work, she'd love to be working, but her reputation has been destroyed - she's stuck and doesn't know what to do , it is frustrating, but she is figuring it out
0:59:00
Because she feels so much better, she has hope again - it was gone - when you have hope you never know how your life might change - Susan didn't struggle to get this far to give up now - she wants to prevent others from going though what she went through - it took away her potential, her every thing - the life she could have had was taken from her - and now that she had it back, she wants to make the most of it
1:00:00
Susan is able to socially interact again, including reaching out to Scott to be a podcast guest - she wouldn't have been able to do that 6 months ago - Susan now feels like she's got momentum in a good directions - she now feels hope and excitement, instead of terror and wanting to die
1:01:00
Being able to speak to people again, and access her thoughts, something she was not able to do before - Susan would love to be able to use her lived experience to help others - Susan looked into peer support, but it was just about getting people to take their medication
1:01:00
There are online psych survivor groups, and Susan has done a little peer support that way - it bothers Susan that we are spending billions of dollars on a mental health care system that doesn't work
1:03:00
We're wasting our money and damaging people - and they can't prove outcomes, there is no data - they are lying like sidewalks and nobody is calling them out on it - is everyone more concerned about their stock porfolio?
1:04:00
Most psychiatrists make close to half a million dollars a year, and they are poisoning people - take a look at their waiting rooms, the people are not 'there' - and that's the doctor's fault
1:05:00
The marketing and advertisements make public awareness difficult - Susan says more people would successfully come off the pysch drugs if they had proper info and support - but the critical piece is to stop people from taking them
1:06:00
So there needs to be an alternative - right now people are not being listened to, and end up taking pysch meds and getting into a mess, and this is what is happening to millions of people -- I ask Susan how's she's going to do something nice for herself today? -- Susan says she's already gone for a walk and always enjoys the little things in life
 
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<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p><br>
<br>
</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[For 20 years, accountant Susan Shepherd was given multiple psychiatric medications -- but she didn’t get better, she got worse -- to the point of unrelenting suicidal thoughts.
Doing her own research into psychiatric medications, and recognizing how her body was responding to them, Susan had to go around her GP and psychiatrist to get to a neurologist for a proper diagnosis: ADHD and dyspraxia. As Susan says, “I have gone through life with an unrecognized neuro diverse condition”. 
But Susan’s good news of finally getting a correct diagnosis was countered by the horror show of trying to withdraw from the psych drugs. Doctors rarely inform patients about the disturbing side effects a person can experience going through withdrawal and will often deny those symptoms as attributable to the psych meds, and dismiss them as part of the patient’s so-called mental illness.
Unsurprisingly, Susan is angry at the medical system for pushing unproven and toxic psych meds on trusting and unsuspecting patients like herself.
Now Susan is sharing her story of how she overcame severe withdrawal symptoms so others avoid the same fate of years of pysch meds causing physical and mental suffering, social and emotional shame, broken relationships and lost careers.
In spite of the multiple losses caused by being poly drugged for years with mind-numbing and intellect-dumbing psych meds, Susan feels better and more alive in every way today.
SHOW NOTES:
0:06:00
Susan was born in Scotland and her family immigrated to Canada when she was 6 -- her brother had asthma and the Scottish climate was not helping, so they moved to Canada where they had some relatives - and her brother's asthma was helped - her father got a sales job in Edmonton for a few years, then to Winnipeg, Thunder Bay, Vancouver, Toronto - but she now lives in a small town
0:07:00
Susan went to university for a couple of years and got married at 20 years old - her health issues started about 2000 - but as a child she struggled with depression, not feeling she was good enough, perfectionism
0:08:00
Normal emotions we all experience and have to learn to deal with - but in 2000 things went wrong - Susan's mother died a few years earlier and it was traumatic for Susan, it was the lynch pin for her poor health - to deal with the grief after her Mom died, Susan went back to school with 2 small kids at home - one of the things she was worried about was being older and impovrished
0:09:00
She spent 10 years working full time, getting up at 4:30am, 2 kids and husband, to ensure she would retire well and toward her CMA (Certified Managment Accountant)
0:10:00
In rerospect Susan was experiencing deep grief for her Mom, who was her anchor - so Susan lost a big piece of herself and she didn't get any support
0:11:00
She's not blaming anyone, it was circumstances - she's not blaming her family and friends, its just the way it was
0:12:00
Her marriage was falling apart at the same time - Susan ended up at a psychiatrist's office - years earlier she had tried an antidepressant but didn't like the way it made her feel so she never continued to take them
0:13:00
But because Susan was feeling so bad and her family was worried, they pressured her to take the pills - the psychiatrist started her on an antidepressant and benzodiazipine (clonapin) - same on Jordan Peterson is trying to get off of in Russia - Susan was polydrugged right off the bat
0:14:00
In retrospect Susan can see what happened - some of the meds were tranquilizers that numbed down her emotions, so she couldn't 'feel' as much, so she felt better - but there were other side effects that were hard to notice at the time - some doctors are speaking out about these side effects
0:15:00
"Spell binding" is a term Peter Breggin uses, he's an expert witness - the brain can't tell you if there is something wrong or not working properly
0:16:00
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        <title>Wade Walters interview: Disability insurance’s ‘exercise therapy’ makes him more sick and disabled</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>No one who is sick and disabled would expect their disability insurer to cause them more harm.</p>
<p>But if you've got a disease where exercise makes you even more sick and disabled, the insurance company may require you to do 'exercise therapy' or loose your disability payments.</p>
<p>It becomes a Hobson's choice: either do as the insurance company says and get even sicker -- or loose your income.</p>
<p>Why did Wade Walters’ disability insurer subject him to contraindicated exercise therapy - not once but twice - that has caused Wade to be permanently sicker with an even lower quality of life?</p>
<p>And what is to stop the insurer from forcing Wade to undergo more harmful treatment?</p>
<p>When corporate insurers demand a so-called therapy that manifests as harm to already sick patients, when does the government step in to protect its vulnerable citizens?</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:05:00
Wade was born in central Alberta, Canada, into a big family, and they were very normal compared to stories he's heard of other families - Wade is the youngest of six children
0:06:00
His mom stayed at home to look after the kids, and his father drove a big tanker truck in the oil and gas industry - after high school, Wade started working in the sports goods industry and moved to Vancouver
0:07:00
When Wade looks back on his health, in 2004 - 05 he started to say to his doctor that he was tired - he found Wade's testosterone was low, so Wade supplemented and that helped a bit, but he was still tired
0:08:00
Wade was then also diagnosed with low iron, and they fixed that, but the tiredness persisted - then Wade has oxygen testing done and that warrented a sleep study and that indicated moderate sleep apnea, so he got a CPAP machine - after a month he told his doctor he was expecting it to improve his fatigue, but it didn't
0:09:00
Wade told him that he had friends on the CPAP and for them it was night and day, changed their life completely, they had a lot more energy - but for Wade, it was a bit better but not much - but the doctor didn't report that in his notes, he reported the CPAP was working fine - Wade also had other tests done, pulmonary stress test - he had EKG done because of his severe pain in his lower back, it was so intense Wade thought he had cancer
0:10:00
Wade got progressively worse, and finally got a diagnosis in June 2018 of myalgic encephalomyelitis, or ME (aka chronic fatigue syndrome) - but that was only left his original doctor
0:11:00
Wade realized that doctor was doing the same tests over and over, and expecting something different - Wade decided enough was enough when the doctor wanted to send Wade to a psychiatrist - Wade then went to a walk in medical clinic - he had asked his previous doc for a referral to an internist, but that never happened
0:12:00
But at the walk in clinic, Wade got a referral to an internist - and about a month later he got the ME diagnosis - he'd not heard of ME but then started to do research, but didn't really understand much of the technical info, so it took a while to understand
0:13:00
Then it took a long while for him to accept the diagnosis - 'why would affect me?' - everything else that has happened to Wade, he's recovered from, but this he couldn't do anything about - there was a hope that maybe it wasn't ME, but something else
0:14:00
Wade hoped he had something treatable so that he could get better - ME symptoms include so many more than just fatigue
0:15:00
Wade's new doctor at the walk in clinic had other patients with ME, so was quick to pick up on it - even though Wade rested as much as he could, there were not enough hours in the day to rest so he could be ready for work - in 1992 Wade started working in the financial industry, and licensed as Certified Financial Planner in 1994
0:16:00
Because Wade had gained a lot of experience by the time he got very sick, his role was fairly automatic so he was able to keep working - but when the organization started to change procedures, etc, Wade's cognitive impairment symptom became less manageable
0:17:00
Wade's last year of work he was really struggling cognitively, he had to double and triple check his work - even typing was becoming challenging, it wasn't automatic anymore, he had to think about which finger to use - he also started having trouble remembering how to spell words
0:18:00
Wade would arrive at work exhausted and try and figure out how he was going to make it through the day and do the work
0:19:00
In August 2018, Wade couldn't continue to work, it was too risky for the business - Wade's pain in lower back was constant, and so intense at times he couldn't sleep - it would radiate down his right let to his knee, and up his body to his shoulder blade
0:20:00
Accupuncture was helping with the pain, but it wouldn't go away - finally Wade found a massage therapist who managed to remove the rest of the pain
0:21:00
So in August 2018, Wade went on disability and got a doctor's note saying Wade is unable to work at this time - Wade's employer was responsible for paying short term disability for 22 weeks - then the insurance company pays the long term disability after that
0:22:00
Although the employer is paying disability for the first 22 weeks, the insurance company is managing the disability claim
0:23:00
The insurance company didn't respond to any of Wade's email, phone calls for over a month after submitting all of the forms
0:24:00
but the claims manager never once contacted any of Wade's care givers, not one of them - so Wade is waiting with no info about income
0:25:00
Because the claims mangere was unrespsonsive, Wade went to her manager - finally on October 10th the claims manager contact Wade to say his claim was denied - so it was an automatic denial - Wade contacted her, and she said she wanted to more info - Wade asked what kind of info?
0:26:00
She said 'its all in the email', but the email just said more info, and didn't specify what - Wade was now frustrated, pissed off and hadn't been paid in 2 months and it didn't like he would ever be - his health was deteriorating because it takes a lot of energy to gather the info
0:27:00
Wade realized he couldn't physically or cognitively respond on his own so starting looking for lawyers and found one by late October, a labour lawyer - and she said 'why did they deny you - it makes no sense - this is a slam dunk' - and the lawyer wants copies of all the documentation, including the insurance policy
0:28:00
But the insurer refused to give a copy of the contract - so Wade contacted his employer to get a copy
0:29:00
They sent him 1 small portion of the policy - Wade said he needed the whole policy and had to fight with head office - it took weeks of emails and phone calls before he got a copy to give to the lawyer - the lawyer said this would be easy, just need to get doctors on board, and she sent it off to the insurer at the end of December
0:30:00
Wade submitted supplemental info from his doctor and lawyer - in early 2019 Wade was refused again - by this time Wade has spent about $4000 on legal fees - the lawyer says let's submit everything for all the doctors you've seen
0:31:00
It ended up being a couple hundred pages - Wade's doctor wrote another letter, a Physicians Statement, it cost Wade $1000
0:32:00
Finally in late June Wade insurance disability gets approved - that was a huge financial relief - the insurer paid Wade retroactively, but his employer didn't pay the 22 weeks until the end of August - then the insurer wanted Wade to do a functional assessment
0:33:00
Wade saw an occupational therapist - he spent 1.5 days with them for assessment - Wade did super bad on some the tests - the tests were 'real life', like balancing a ledger - easy peasy right? - but Wade couldn't do it
0:34:00
Another test had Wade focus on a task, but there would be a sound interruption and Wade was to count the number of tones at the same time as focusing on the task - but Wade could only do 1 or the other at a time
0:35:00
They also did a physical assessment, like lifting, balancing, hand grip - another test had Wade go shopping with a budget at super store and he failed at that too
0:36:00
The hallmark symptom of ME is known as 'post exertional malaise', and that means any exertion, like walking up a couple of flights of stairs, carrying groceries, will bring on ME symptoms hours or even a day or 2 later - Wade doesn't know if the occupational therapist (OT) knew about this hallmark symptom
0:37:00
Wade was quite sick and tired after the 2 days of assessment - that means a lot of horizontal time, only being vertical when necessary
0:38:00
It took 5 or 6 days for Wade to recover- Wade did not see their recommendation for treatment - the OT asked Wade if he wanted a copy of the report and Wade said yes - the OT said he could get it from his insurer, so he did ask the insurer
0:39:00
But they never sent anything - Wade asked the OT for a copy and she finally sent it in August - but now there is a Rehab Manager involved and he wants Wade to do OT
0:40:00
In Sept Wade saw the OT, and he explained about ME - but they wanted Wade to be on 'graded exercise therapy' (GET) - but the people with ME know that exertion makes them sick, so GET will only make them sick
0:41:00
So they had Wade do physical exercises and cognitive exercises - 1 hour of physical exercise, plus lifting weights, per week - and also 1 hour of cognitive exercise per week
0:42:00
So that activity was added on to Wade's regular stuff, like going to the doctor, showering - but showering doesn't happen too often any more, too much effort - Wade could not complete the 6 week program - so Wade was sicker then when he started the 'therapy'
0:43:00
The OT said she'd send in her report, but it was the claims manager that would decide what would happen - Wade had to get his doctor to write another note, and the doctor was quite terse with the insurance company: "Wade was disabled and would likely remain disabled."
0:44:00
But the Rehab Manager wants Wade to try GET again - Wade agreed only if they scaled the 'exercise' way back, and the Rehab Manager agreed - The OT did have good advice about pacing Wade's energy - like only doing things in maximum 10 minute efforts before resting - so if he couldn't finish the dishes in 10 minutes, that's okay, he'd go lie down
0:45:00
Wade gave the OT info from Dr Myhill in the UK about safe exercising for ME patients - very slow, light weight repetitions - so that's what they tried - it took about 20 minutes with the OT, and only 1 set of each exercise, with maybe 6 reps
0:46:00
By the end of December Wade had to tell the OT that it was too much, and by that time the OT was going to Wade's house so he didn't have to travel - so the OT saw how much Wade was really struggling
0:47:00
At the end of January, Wade had not heard how the insurer was responding to Wade's inability to do OT - but the 'treatments' made Wade sicker - he has not recovered to his previous ability before 'treatment' started
0:48:00
Wade was starting to feel a bit better until the insurer required more testing and the OT required exertion - he did have a routine that worked, but now he's too sick for that - he's not had a 'good' day since December - Living with ME is brutal - Wade doesn't even have cable tv, because he's rather be doing sports than watching sports
0:49:00
Wade can see people out his window cycling, running, walking - that frustrates Wade because he can't understand the continuing education courses he should be taking for his license, but he can't understand it, it might as well be in a foreign language
0:50:00
So Wade lives with deep fatigue that leaves him horizontal most of the day - cognitive impairment that impacts thinking - and pain, but daily CBD oil helps with that, but he's still in pain every day - even though the most severe, lower back pain has been treated so that's not waking him in the night - but he still has joint pain, muscle pain, mysterious pain that feels like electrical shock or being poked with a needle
0:51:00
In November, during OT, Wade had a headache for 10 days straight - Wade's body also respsonds to temperature dysfunctionally - he can work up a sweat folding clothes
0:52:00
Wade's family knew he was tired, but they didn't understand the depth of his fatigue - Wade had a fitbit that tracked his activity, and the amount of sleep he required went up and up and up
0:53:00
The past month Wade has been averaging at least 12 hours a day of sleep - Wade lives alone so doesn't have caregivers, so he's forced to make meals and other activities to keep himself alive
0:54:00
Wade has to ration his house hold chores into small, short efforts - one solution Wade found is a robotic vacuum, so that has been helpful
0:55:00
In addition to CBD, Wade takes low dose naltrexone helps with pain mainly
0:56:00
Wade wasn't sure if the low dose naltrexone was helping until he missed a couple of doses, and his pain increased a lot - although he hasn't been depressed in 15 - 20 years, he's been given deloxitine (antidepressant) - Wade tried amytriptaline, but it gave him more brain fog, like a zombie
0:57:00
Wade is taking another medication (Prazosin) that helps with his postural orthostatic tachycardia - he asked his doctor for Mestinon, but the doctor wouldn't prescribe off-label
0:58:00
Prazosin can be used for nightmares, blood pressure and night sweats - for Wade, he needed it for the last 2 - Wade hasn't had night sweats since, so he's saving energy by not having to change his bed sheets daily
0:59:00
When you're 90% healthy, a 5% increase may not be too noticeable, but when you're only 10% healthy, a 5% increase is huge - what happens if the insurance company comes back and wants Wade to do 'exercise therapy' again? - Wade says he'll seek legal representation to have them charged with aggravated assault, a criminal offence
1:00:00
We've been talking for an hour - Wade's energy is dropping, his arms, legs, head feel heavy
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<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one who is sick and disabled would expect their disability insurer to cause them more harm.</p>
<p>But if you've got a disease where exercise makes you even more sick and disabled, the insurance company may require you to do 'exercise therapy' or loose your disability payments.</p>
<p>It becomes a Hobson's choice: either do as the insurance company says and get even sicker -- or loose your income.</p>
<p>Why did Wade Walters’ disability insurer subject him to contraindicated exercise therapy - not once but twice - that has caused Wade to be permanently sicker with an even lower quality of life?</p>
<p>And what is to stop the insurer from forcing Wade to undergo more harmful treatment?</p>
<p>When corporate insurers demand a so-called therapy that manifests as harm to already sick patients, when does the government step in to protect its vulnerable citizens?</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:05:00
Wade was born in central Alberta, Canada, into a big family, and they were very normal compared to stories he's heard of other families - Wade is the youngest of six children
0:06:00
His mom stayed at home to look after the kids, and his father drove a big tanker truck in the oil and gas industry - after high school, Wade started working in the sports goods industry and moved to Vancouver
0:07:00
When Wade looks back on his health, in 2004 - 05 he started to say to his doctor that he was tired - he found Wade's testosterone was low, so Wade supplemented and that helped a bit, but he was still tired
0:08:00
Wade was then also diagnosed with low iron, and they fixed that, but the tiredness persisted - then Wade has oxygen testing done and that warrented a sleep study and that indicated moderate sleep apnea, so he got a CPAP machine - after a month he told his doctor he was expecting it to improve his fatigue, but it didn't
0:09:00
Wade told him that he had friends on the CPAP and for them it was night and day, changed their life completely, they had a lot more energy - but for Wade, it was a bit better but not much - but the doctor didn't report that in his notes, he reported the CPAP was working fine - Wade also had other tests done, pulmonary stress test - he had EKG done because of his severe pain in his lower back, it was so intense Wade thought he had cancer
0:10:00
Wade got progressively worse, and finally got a diagnosis in June 2018 of myalgic encephalomyelitis, or ME (aka chronic fatigue syndrome) - but that was only left his original doctor
0:11:00
Wade realized that doctor was doing the same tests over and over, and expecting something different - Wade decided enough was enough when the doctor wanted to send Wade to a psychiatrist - Wade then went to a walk in medical clinic - he had asked his previous doc for a referral to an internist, but that never happened
0:12:00
But at the walk in clinic, Wade got a referral to an internist - and about a month later he got the ME diagnosis - he'd not heard of ME but then started to do research, but didn't really understand much of the technical info, so it took a while to understand
0:13:00
Then it took a long while for him to accept the diagnosis - 'why would affect me?' - everything else that has happened to Wade, he's recovered from, but this he couldn't do anything about - there was a hope that maybe it wasn't ME, but something else
0:14:00
Wade hoped he had something treatable so that he could get better - ME symptoms include so many more than just fatigue
0:15:00
Wade's new doctor at the walk in clinic had other patients with ME, so was quick to pick up on it - even though Wade rested as much as he could, there were not enough hours in the day to rest so he could be ready for work - in 1992 Wade started working in the financial industry, and licensed as Certified Financial Planner in 1994
0:16:00
Because Wade had gained a lot of experience by the time he got very sick, his role was fairly automatic so he was able to keep working - but when the organization started to change procedures, etc, Wade's cognitive impairment symptom became less manageable
0:17:00
Wade's last year of work he was really struggling cognitively, he had to double and triple check his work - even typing was becoming challenging, it wasn't automatic anymore, he had to think about which finger to use - he also started having trouble remembering how to spell words
0:18:00
Wade would arrive at work exhausted and try and figure out how he was going to make it through the day and do the work
0:19:00
In August 2018, Wade couldn't continue to work, it was too risky for the business - Wade's pain in lower back was constant, and so intense at times he couldn't sleep - it would radiate down his right let to his knee, and up his body to his shoulder blade
0:20:00
Accupuncture was helping with the pain, but it wouldn't go away - finally Wade found a massage therapist who managed to remove the rest of the pain
0:21:00
So in August 2018, Wade went on disability and got a doctor's note saying Wade is unable to work at this time - Wade's employer was responsible for paying short term disability for 22 weeks - then the insurance company pays the long term disability after that
0:22:00
Although the employer is paying disability for the first 22 weeks, the insurance company is managing the disability claim
0:23:00
The insurance company didn't respond to any of Wade's email, phone calls for over a month after submitting all of the forms
0:24:00
but the claims manager never once contacted any of Wade's care givers, not one of them - so Wade is waiting with no info about income
0:25:00
Because the claims mangere was unrespsonsive, Wade went to her manager - finally on October 10th the claims manager contact Wade to say his claim was denied - so it was an automatic denial - Wade contacted her, and she said she wanted to more info - Wade asked what kind of info?
0:26:00
She said 'its all in the email', but the email just said more info, and didn't specify what - Wade was now frustrated, pissed off and hadn't been paid in 2 months and it didn't like he would ever be - his health was deteriorating because it takes a lot of energy to gather the info
0:27:00
Wade realized he couldn't physically or cognitively respond on his own so starting looking for lawyers and found one by late October, a labour lawyer - and she said 'why did they deny you - it makes no sense - this is a slam dunk' - and the lawyer wants copies of all the documentation, including the insurance policy
0:28:00
But the insurer refused to give a copy of the contract - so Wade contacted his employer to get a copy
0:29:00
They sent him 1 small portion of the policy - Wade said he needed the whole policy and had to fight with head office - it took weeks of emails and phone calls before he got a copy to give to the lawyer - the lawyer said this would be easy, just need to get doctors on board, and she sent it off to the insurer at the end of December
0:30:00
Wade submitted supplemental info from his doctor and lawyer - in early 2019 Wade was refused again - by this time Wade has spent about $4000 on legal fees - the lawyer says let's submit everything for all the doctors you've seen
0:31:00
It ended up being a couple hundred pages - Wade's doctor wrote another letter, a Physicians Statement, it cost Wade $1000
0:32:00
Finally in late June Wade insurance disability gets approved - that was a huge financial relief - the insurer paid Wade retroactively, but his employer didn't pay the 22 weeks until the end of August - then the insurer wanted Wade to do a functional assessment
0:33:00
Wade saw an occupational therapist - he spent 1.5 days with them for assessment - Wade did super bad on some the tests - the tests were 'real life', like balancing a ledger - easy peasy right? - but Wade couldn't do it
0:34:00
Another test had Wade focus on a task, but there would be a sound interruption and Wade was to count the number of tones at the same time as focusing on the task - but Wade could only do 1 or the other at a time
0:35:00
They also did a physical assessment, like lifting, balancing, hand grip - another test had Wade go shopping with a budget at super store and he failed at that too
0:36:00
The hallmark symptom of ME is known as 'post exertional malaise', and that means any exertion, like walking up a couple of flights of stairs, carrying groceries, will bring on ME symptoms hours or even a day or 2 later - Wade doesn't know if the occupational therapist (OT) knew about this hallmark symptom
0:37:00
Wade was quite sick and tired after the 2 days of assessment - that means a lot of horizontal time, only being vertical when necessary
0:38:00
It took 5 or 6 days for Wade to recover- Wade did not see their recommendation for treatment - the OT asked Wade if he wanted a copy of the report and Wade said yes - the OT said he could get it from his insurer, so he did ask the insurer
0:39:00
But they never sent anything - Wade asked the OT for a copy and she finally sent it in August - but now there is a Rehab Manager involved and he wants Wade to do OT
0:40:00
In Sept Wade saw the OT, and he explained about ME - but they wanted Wade to be on 'graded exercise therapy' (GET) - but the people with ME know that exertion makes them sick, so GET will only make them sick
0:41:00
So they had Wade do physical exercises and cognitive exercises - 1 hour of physical exercise, plus lifting weights, per week - and also 1 hour of cognitive exercise per week
0:42:00
So that activity was added on to Wade's regular stuff, like going to the doctor, showering - but showering doesn't happen too often any more, too much effort - Wade could not complete the 6 week program - so Wade was sicker then when he started the 'therapy'
0:43:00
The OT said she'd send in her report, but it was the claims manager that would decide what would happen - Wade had to get his doctor to write another note, and the doctor was quite terse with the insurance company: "Wade was disabled and would likely remain disabled."
0:44:00
But the Rehab Manager wants Wade to try GET again - Wade agreed only if they scaled the 'exercise' way back, and the Rehab Manager agreed - The OT did have good advice about pacing Wade's energy - like only doing things in maximum 10 minute efforts before resting - so if he couldn't finish the dishes in 10 minutes, that's okay, he'd go lie down
0:45:00
Wade gave the OT info from Dr Myhill in the UK about safe exercising for ME patients - very slow, light weight repetitions - so that's what they tried - it took about 20 minutes with the OT, and only 1 set of each exercise, with maybe 6 reps
0:46:00
By the end of December Wade had to tell the OT that it was too much, and by that time the OT was going to Wade's house so he didn't have to travel - so the OT saw how much Wade was really struggling
0:47:00
At the end of January, Wade had not heard how the insurer was responding to Wade's inability to do OT - but the 'treatments' made Wade sicker - he has not recovered to his previous ability before 'treatment' started
0:48:00
Wade was starting to feel a bit better until the insurer required more testing and the OT required exertion - he did have a routine that worked, but now he's too sick for that - he's not had a 'good' day since December - Living with ME is brutal - Wade doesn't even have cable tv, because he's rather be doing sports than watching sports
0:49:00
Wade can see people out his window cycling, running, walking - that frustrates Wade because he can't understand the continuing education courses he should be taking for his license, but he can't understand it, it might as well be in a foreign language
0:50:00
So Wade lives with deep fatigue that leaves him horizontal most of the day - cognitive impairment that impacts thinking - and pain, but daily CBD oil helps with that, but he's still in pain every day - even though the most severe, lower back pain has been treated so that's not waking him in the night - but he still has joint pain, muscle pain, mysterious pain that feels like electrical shock or being poked with a needle
0:51:00
In November, during OT, Wade had a headache for 10 days straight - Wade's body also respsonds to temperature dysfunctionally - he can work up a sweat folding clothes
0:52:00
Wade's family knew he was tired, but they didn't understand the depth of his fatigue - Wade had a fitbit that tracked his activity, and the amount of sleep he required went up and up and up
0:53:00
The past month Wade has been averaging at least 12 hours a day of sleep - Wade lives alone so doesn't have caregivers, so he's forced to make meals and other activities to keep himself alive
0:54:00
Wade has to ration his house hold chores into small, short efforts - one solution Wade found is a robotic vacuum, so that has been helpful
0:55:00
In addition to CBD, Wade takes low dose naltrexone helps with pain mainly
0:56:00
Wade wasn't sure if the low dose naltrexone was helping until he missed a couple of doses, and his pain increased a lot - although he hasn't been depressed in 15 - 20 years, he's been given deloxitine (antidepressant) - Wade tried amytriptaline, but it gave him more brain fog, like a zombie
0:57:00
Wade is taking another medication (Prazosin) that helps with his postural orthostatic tachycardia - he asked his doctor for Mestinon, but the doctor wouldn't prescribe off-label
0:58:00
Prazosin can be used for nightmares, blood pressure and night sweats - for Wade, he needed it for the last 2 - Wade hasn't had night sweats since, so he's saving energy by not having to change his bed sheets daily
0:59:00
When you're 90% healthy, a 5% increase may not be too noticeable, but when you're only 10% healthy, a 5% increase is huge - what happens if the insurance company comes back and wants Wade to do 'exercise therapy' again? - Wade says he'll seek legal representation to have them charged with aggravated assault, a criminal offence
1:00:00
We've been talking for an hour - Wade's energy is dropping, his arms, legs, head feel heavy
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<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[No one who is sick and disabled would expect their disability insurer to cause them more harm.
But if you've got a disease where exercise makes you even more sick and disabled, the insurance company may require you to do 'exercise therapy' or loose your disability payments.
It becomes a Hobson's choice: either do as the insurance company says and get even sicker -- or loose your income.
Why did Wade Walters’ disability insurer subject him to contraindicated exercise therapy - not once but twice - that has caused Wade to be permanently sicker with an even lower quality of life?
And what is to stop the insurer from forcing Wade to undergo more harmful treatment?
When corporate insurers demand a so-called therapy that manifests as harm to already sick patients, when does the government step in to protect its vulnerable citizens?
SHOW NOTES:
0:05:00
Wade was born in central Alberta, Canada, into a big family, and they were very normal compared to stories he's heard of other families - Wade is the youngest of six children
0:06:00
His mom stayed at home to look after the kids, and his father drove a big tanker truck in the oil and gas industry - after high school, Wade started working in the sports goods industry and moved to Vancouver
0:07:00
When Wade looks back on his health, in 2004 - 05 he started to say to his doctor that he was tired - he found Wade's testosterone was low, so Wade supplemented and that helped a bit, but he was still tired
0:08:00
Wade was then also diagnosed with low iron, and they fixed that, but the tiredness persisted - then Wade has oxygen testing done and that warrented a sleep study and that indicated moderate sleep apnea, so he got a CPAP machine - after a month he told his doctor he was expecting it to improve his fatigue, but it didn't
0:09:00
Wade told him that he had friends on the CPAP and for them it was night and day, changed their life completely, they had a lot more energy - but for Wade, it was a bit better but not much - but the doctor didn't report that in his notes, he reported the CPAP was working fine - Wade also had other tests done, pulmonary stress test - he had EKG done because of his severe pain in his lower back, it was so intense Wade thought he had cancer
0:10:00
Wade got progressively worse, and finally got a diagnosis in June 2018 of myalgic encephalomyelitis, or ME (aka chronic fatigue syndrome) - but that was only left his original doctor
0:11:00
Wade realized that doctor was doing the same tests over and over, and expecting something different - Wade decided enough was enough when the doctor wanted to send Wade to a psychiatrist - Wade then went to a walk in medical clinic - he had asked his previous doc for a referral to an internist, but that never happened
0:12:00
But at the walk in clinic, Wade got a referral to an internist - and about a month later he got the ME diagnosis - he'd not heard of ME but then started to do research, but didn't really understand much of the technical info, so it took a while to understand
0:13:00
Then it took a long while for him to accept the diagnosis - 'why would affect me?' - everything else that has happened to Wade, he's recovered from, but this he couldn't do anything about - there was a hope that maybe it wasn't ME, but something else
0:14:00
Wade hoped he had something treatable so that he could get better - ME symptoms include so many more than just fatigue
0:15:00
Wade's new doctor at the walk in clinic had other patients with ME, so was quick to pick up on it - even though Wade rested as much as he could, there were not enough hours in the day to rest so he could be ready for work - in 1992 Wade started working in the financial industry, and licensed as Certified Financial Planner in 1994
0:16:00
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Big pharmaceutical company Eli Lily was hiding the truth about the harms caused by their antipsychotic medication called Zyprexa -- until lawyer Jim Gottstein got a hold of the evidence and shared it with the New York Times.  You will not be surprised to hear that Eli Lily’s lawyers went after Jim hard with criminal charges to destroy his career, his livelihood and his freedom.</p>
<p>In my interview with Jim about his personal experience with the mental health system, and his legal career focused on mental health, I ask him why he’s exposing big pharma deceit now in his new book The Zyprexa Papers. </p>
<p>Jim also tells about his personal experience with psychosis when he was over worked and under slept, and woke suddenly one night and thought he was being chased by the devil. Jim threw himself out a 2nd story window to escape. Fortunately, Jim is also skydiver, and knew how to roll his landing without injury. But it was Jim’s lived experience in the mental health system that prepared him for legal battles representing clients about mental health issues. Jim’s lived experience with the mental health system is priceless, adds value to a good legal defense, and cannot be taught in law school. </p>
<p>Jim also tells the story of how he became the lawyer to expose Eli Lily’s lies about the safety of their Zyprexa medication and the impact that had on his life and career. Jim became a leader in the psychiatric survivor community, founding patient organizations including PsychRights.org - and providing his legal services pro bono to clients who didn’t want to be forced to take medications.</p>
<p>In The Zyprexa Papers, Jim gives a riveting first-hand account of what really happened, including new details about how a small group of psychiatric survivors spread the Zyprexa Papers on the Internet untraceably. All of this within a gripping, plain-language explanation of complex legal maneuvering and his battles on behalf of Bill Bigley, the psychiatric patient whose ordeal made possible the exposure of the Zyprexa Papers.</p>
<p>The Zyprexa Papers included hundreds of internal Eli Lilly documents and emails that showed company officials knew their best-selling drug was severely harming people while scarcely helping anyone. Release of the papers exposed the abuses of the drug industry besides the harm that Zyprexa was doing.</p>
<p>The series of front page stories in "The New York Times" could have saved tens of thousands of lives according to Jim's estimate.</p>
<p>The public benefits greatly from Jim’s efforts, not only because of the life-saving information he released, but also because he’s a courageous model for other people to follow in exposing the predatory practices in the pharmaceutical industry.</p>
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SHOW NOTES:

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0:06:00
Jim was born in Anchorage Alaska in 1953 - it was a nice place to grow up - he was a pretty normal boy, he got to play little league, walk around town, ride bikes - when Jim was born Anchorage only had about 25,000 people, but now it is close to 400,000
0:07:00
Jim went to the University of Oregon to study business and to get a degree in finance, but one of the required courses was business law, and he didn't miss a question the entire term - he thought it may be a bette fit for him, so he took advanced business law and then decided to go to law school
0:08:00
Jim didn't do well enought in high school to get into any 'good' schools, and wanted to keep his options open by doing well in college - his 1st term was okay with a lot of Bs - Jim decided he had too much free time so increased his number of courses - the next term he got all As with one B
0:09:00
By over loading his courses, he graduated in 3 years - in his last term he needed 10 hours of anything to graduate, so he took 10 hours of teaching sky diving
0:10:00
Jim got his pilot's license when he was 17 - and then went to Harvard for law school
0:11:00
Jim's mom got him a job for lawyer Bob Goldberg, son of Justice Arthur Goldberg who was on the US Supreme Court - Bob had to move to Alaska to escape his father's shadow - Bob represented some of the Native groups
0:12:00
After a few years, Jim opened his own law practice and also decided to run for the State Senate, had traveled to Europe and Israel so was jet lagged and not getting enough sleep and Jim had a psychotic break - Jim had gone to his father's place to sleep but woke at 1am and thought the devil was coming for him - he was on the 2nd floor of the house and looked out the window
0:13:00
Jim thought he could jump far enough to miss the pavement and land on the grass - he jumped out the window and did a rolling landing parachute jump and ran across the street to the school parking lot but thought the devil was still chasing so kept looking over his shoulder - he was put in a straight jacket and hauled off to the Alasks Psychiatric Institute and they pumped him full of something that put him to sleep
0:14:00
Jim has always counted on his mind to accomplish what he set out to do and what was going on - so it was a shock that his mind could become completely unreliable - JIm remembers waking in the hospital and the male nurse asking Jim what day it was
0:15:00
Jim asked how long he'd been asleep - so the nurse noted that Jim wasn't oriented to time - so that was the start of the Alice in Wonderland experience of being in a psychiatric hospital - Jim was given Melaril , he told them he didn't want the psych med thorazine - thorazine was the first of the neuropleptic drugs for people with schizophrenia - it blocks about 80% of the dopamine, so they are basically chemical lobotomies
0:16:00
Jim knew he didn't want to have a 'committed involuntarily' label, so he signed himself in for treatment, but it was hardly voluntary - Jim's fiancee said he was still campaigning in the psych ward, handing out baseball caps, so Jim was pretty out of it - but was doing better and released after 30 days - Jim's not sure the medication did much for him
0:17:00
Jim's father connected Jim with a psychiatrist in New Rochelle, New York and he diagnosed Jim with biploar disorder - but the psych hospital had diagnosed him with atypical psychosis - Jim didn't find that psychiatrist very helpful - then Jim's mother connected him with another psychiatrist, Robert Alberts, who had been a Japanese prisoner of war - Jim says Robert was a wonderful person and told Jim that any one who misses enough sleep will become psychotic - and that Jim needed to manage that - Jim credits Robert with saving Jim from being made permanently mentally health by the mental health system because Jim had that he would never practice law again
0:18:00
When he told hospital staff he'd gone to Harvard law school, that confirmed to them Jim was delusional - Jim didn't accept their conclusion he'd never be able to practice law again, they'd call it 'denial' - Jim says 'denial' of being mental ill is one of the most positive things you can do - because the message of the mental health system is 'abandon all hope ye who enter here'
0:19:00
When in the hospital, they wanted to put Jim on lithium - he said he was a pilot and he couldn't fly if he was taking lithium, but they didn't care about that - so they creatine clearance test to his kidney function because lithium is hard on the liver and Jim's known a number of people killed by lithium - to do the test, they needed a kidnay biopsy, but the doctor couldn't find Jim's kidney's to do the test
0:20:00
Jim finds that work pressure with deadlines - and the habit is to always make the document better and file at the last minute - so Jim tries to file the day before so he doesn't have that sleep problem
0:21:00
Jim knows that if he's not getting enough sleep he can get into trouble, he knows the signs - the first sign is that Jim gets more witty with rejoinders, but nobogy notices except himself - then he'll have 'thought blocking' when he just stops for a few seconds when he's talking (his thoughts are blocked) - the next stage is that Jim thinks people are looking at him funny - he deals with that by telling himself that he's probably not acting funny
0:22:00
Then he'll also try to look at himself from 'above' to see if he's doing anything weird - at that point Jim may take a benzodiazipine (Halcyon) - just to break the cycle and get a nights sleep - it usually only takes 1 pill and then it'll be a year before he needs it again - benzos are highly addictive so its important not to take them daily
0:23:00
The FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) said Jim couldn't fly for 2 days after taking a benzo
0:24:00
Jim got involved in the legal side of mental health simultaneiously with his own psychotic break - in 1956 Congress enacted the Alaska Mental Health Enabling Act and gave a bunch of land for that purpose - later another Act redisgated that land for the state and said they'd maybe pay for it
0:25:00
Jim's mother was head of the Alaska Mental Health at the time and went to Congress and said you can't take this land, that's not legal - they said we don't care - so they sued them and won a billion dollar settlement
0:26:00
Jim found a couple of mental health 'consumer' groups - he was also on the Board of the Alaska Mental Health - then in 2002, Jim read Mad in America, Bad Science, Bad Medicine and the Enduring Mistreatment of the Mentally Ill by Robert Whittaker - to Jim it was a raodmap to challenging forced psychiatric drugging - JIm founded the Law Project for Psychiatric Rights (PsychRights.org) - and it challenged that and shock therapy
0:27:00
PsychRights also educates the public about these medications and shock therapy and their risks - Jim says we shouldn't call ECT (electro convulsive therapy) 'therapy' because it is not
0:28:00
The shock machines were invented in the 50s and have been modified since then - but before the FDA was responsible for regulating medical devices - but they didn't do that for 20 - 30 years - then in the last year they basically said that shock treatment is not harmful and we're not going to regulate them - Jim's says that is outrageous
0:29:00
Just shows how people in psychiatry just don't think - they're running electricity through the brain to cause a grand mal seizure, where neurologists do everything they can to prevent grand mal seizures - the convulsions were so intense people would break bones, bite through their tongue - now they anaesthetize them, but that requires more electricity to cause the convulsion
0:30:00
Dr Peter Breggin has written great psychiatry books - and he says electro shock is really a closed head injury - some people when they get a head injury, become euphoric for a while - but people have horrendous memory loss they don't get back - Jim thinks electro shock should be banned - its barbaric
0:31:00
A court in Conneticut has ordered a woman to be shocked against her will 500 times - that's the thing about psychiatry, 'if something doesn't work, do more of it' -
0:32:00
In November 2006 Jim received a call an expert witness in a massive lawsuit over side effects from the psych med Zyprexa - like diabetes and other metabolic problmes Eli Lily had not owned up to - he said he had documents showing Eli Lily knew from the beginning, hid it from the doctors and they were illegally marketing it to children and the elderly - but he was under a secrecy order - however if he was subpoanaed in another case - he wanted to know if Jim would do that - there's more to the story and that's what is book The Zyprexa Papers is about the New York Times published some articles
0:33:00
The expert witness had also been working with a writer from the New York Times, Alex Berenson - the expert witness gave the documents to Jim - there were a series of front page stories in the NYT and then Eli Lily came after Jim with criminal charges and to the Alaska Bar Association to try to get Jim disbarred
0:34:00
Zyprexa is a 2nd generation neuroleptic medication, also called antipsychotic, but that's just a marketing term - 'neuroleptic' means 'seize the brain' and that is what they do - in the 90s they started atypical neuroleptics which supposedly didn't have negative effects like tardive dyskinesia (results in involuntary, repetitive body movements, which may include grimacing, sticking out the tongue, or smacking the lips) - basically drug induced Parkinson's Disease
0:35:00
It blocks 70 - 90% of dopamine in the basal ganglia, same thing with Parkinson's patients - licking their lips, strange movements - and doctors interpret that in Zyprexa patients as mental illness, not as negative effects of Zyprexa - Eli Lily said this new generation of atypical meds didn't have tardive dyskenesia and that was a lie - another negative effect was neuroliptic malignant syndrome and it is often fatal, and Eli Lily lied about that too
0:36:00
Risperdal causes little boys to grow breasts, called gynecomastia - Seroquel causes problems, like elongates the heart rhythm and that can cause death - they are putting Veterans on Seroquel and another medication and they are dying in their sleep from this drug cocktail - they were prescribed originally for schizophrenia and the manic phase of bipolar disorder - cut in the US a doctor can prescribe any drug for any thing
0:37:00
Pharmaceuticals can only market a drug for a specific illness, but they do it anyway through various guises and artifices, like ghost writing articles, basically huge fraud perpetrated on the public - Dr David Eagleman was the expert witness and had these documents proving Eli Lily's lies and thought the public should know, but he was under a secrecy order
0:38:00
Dr Eagleman was looking for someone to subpeona him and Jim had just won a case for Faith Myers where they wanted to force her to take Zyprexa - Jim had a great witness, Dr Grace Jackson, and she analyzed the papers on which Zyprexa was given approval by the FDA, and she could see it caused diabetes just from that - but not just diabetes
0:39:00
People would gain a 100 pounds in a year - Dr Jackson found the studies were fraudulent - because the meds block dopamine, the first thing the brain does is try to pump out more dopamine - then after a few weeks it grows more dopamine receptors
0:40:00
So abrupt withdrawal causes some people to experience psychosis - but the doctor will say 'see what happens when you're not on medication' - but some people did quite well with the sudden withdrawal, but those people were thrown out of the study
0:41:00
About 2/3 of people in the study dropped out because of the negative effects - so Dr Jackson put all this in a report
0:42:00
Jim shared the documents with the NYT in 2006 and found someone to put them on the internet
0:43:00
Then a group called Psychiatric Survivors got involved - another group Mind Freedom.org with David Oakes, and they also helped get it out - Jim says it was amazing how Eli Lily could whip up Federal Judges to issues orders against Jim without him even being given notice
0:44:00
Psychiatric survivor Eric Weiland had posted them on his website and Eli Lily harassed and threatened him so he took them down - Pat Riser passed away a few years ago probably a result of psych drugging, he wrote the Eli Lilly and said 'geez, I saw these in the NYT and downloaded them and made a few CDs of them and sent them to newspapers and family and friends and went to...
0:45:00
...handed them out in a shopping plaza parking lot - I didn't know they were illegal and sorry, I'm not going to be able to get them all back' - that's one of Jim's favorite vignettes - but Eli Lily had endless money to fight Jim
0:46:00
Jim testified and the judge ruled Jim conspired to steal the documents and a 'criminal act' and that set up Jim for criminal contempt charges
0:47:00
One of the clients in the case had a Gaurdian, and it was only the Gaurdian who could sign release papers so Jim could look at the client's medical records
0:48:00
Jim did get the medical records and the client had been drugged with Zyuprexa against his will - he was held down and injected with it
0:49:00
Eli Lily had portrayed themselves as the 'victim' in the lawsuit, so going after Jim, and the ensuing publicity, would've make Eli Lily look bad - they could have crushed Jim financially - so it was scary because the consequences could have been severe, including jail time
0:50:00
Zyprexa is still available and still forced - about 3 years ago Jim had financial troubles and had to give up most of the pro bono Pysch Rights work he'd been doing for 14 years and boost his law practice
0:51:00
After a year he had some clients but not a lot, so used his time to write the book - Jim would like the public to be aware because he thinks they'll be shocked by Jim's representation of Bill Bickley and to stop him from being drugged against his will
0:52:00
Jim represented him for 4 years, 10 trials and 5 trips to the Alaska Supreme Court - one of those decisions was an important precedent
0:53:00
Jim's says people are really taken with the 2 chapters on his defence of Bill Bickley and how the system is set up against patients, it is basically a kangaroo court - Bill's wife had divorced him and took custody of the 2 kids and sued him for child support which he couldn't afford - he had a good job as a heavy equipment operator and had a nervous breakdown - so Jim tries to convey how people's lives are ruined by what psychiatry does to them
0:54:00
In 2007, Dr Jackson testified that if Bill was continued to be drugged, he'd be dead within 5 years, and she was off by 6 months - Bill's Gaurdian didn't want Jim representing Bill, because they wanted him drugged - Jim won about half the cases for Bill - the Gaurdian told Jim that Bill didn't want Jim to represent him anymore, and Jim said that he'd never heard Bill say that
0:55:00
The judge asked Bill if he wanted Jim to represent him, and Bill said 'Jim knows a lot about me. And I'm the president." - the Gaurdian changed their tune after that, and said that Bill was not competent to make the decision - while Jim won half of Bill'ls cases, the Public Defendor who lost all but one of the cases - but the Alaska Supreme Court decided that Bill could not choose Jim as his lawyer, and that is a very frightening thing - so they got to drug him without constraint and he died within a couple of years
0:56:00
Jim pointed out to the Gaurdian that these drugs shorten lives, and the Gaurdian argued that quality of life is important - but they didn't care what Bill thought of his quality of life, and it was better without the drugs
0:57:00
One of the reasons Jim wrote the Zyprexa Papers is to bring people's attention - it is available on Amazon in Kindle or paperback
0:58:00
To connect with Jim, go to PsychRights.org and email him through that site
0:59:00
Jim talks to people all the time who had no idea this was going on - 'you can learn from your mistakes, but its better to learn from other people's mistakes' - hopefully he can prevent other people from having this sort of terrible thing happen to them
 
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big pharmaceutical company Eli Lily was hiding the truth about the harms caused by their antipsychotic medication called Zyprexa -- until lawyer Jim Gottstein got a hold of the evidence and shared it with the New York Times.  You will not be surprised to hear that Eli Lily’s lawyers went after Jim hard with criminal charges to destroy his career, his livelihood and his freedom.</p>
<p>In my interview with Jim about his personal experience with the mental health system, and his legal career focused on mental health, I ask him why he’s exposing big pharma deceit now in his new book The Zyprexa Papers. </p>
<p>Jim also tells about his personal experience with psychosis when he was over worked and under slept, and woke suddenly one night and thought he was being chased by the devil. Jim threw himself out a 2nd story window to escape. Fortunately, Jim is also skydiver, and knew how to roll his landing without injury. But it was Jim’s lived experience in the mental health system that prepared him for legal battles representing clients about mental health issues. Jim’s lived experience with the mental health system is priceless, adds value to a good legal defense, and cannot be taught in law school. </p>
<p>Jim also tells the story of how he became the lawyer to expose Eli Lily’s lies about the safety of their Zyprexa medication and the impact that had on his life and career. Jim became a leader in the psychiatric survivor community, founding patient organizations including PsychRights.org - and providing his legal services pro bono to clients who didn’t want to be forced to take medications.</p>
<p>In The Zyprexa Papers, Jim gives a riveting first-hand account of what really happened, including new details about how a small group of psychiatric survivors spread the Zyprexa Papers on the Internet untraceably. All of this within a gripping, plain-language explanation of complex legal maneuvering and his battles on behalf of Bill Bigley, the psychiatric patient whose ordeal made possible the exposure of the Zyprexa Papers.</p>
<p>The Zyprexa Papers included hundreds of internal Eli Lilly documents and emails that showed company officials knew their best-selling drug was severely harming people while scarcely helping anyone. Release of the papers exposed the abuses of the drug industry besides the harm that Zyprexa was doing.</p>
<p>The series of front page stories in "The New York Times" could have saved tens of thousands of lives according to Jim's estimate.</p>
<p>The public benefits greatly from Jim’s efforts, not only because of the life-saving information he released, but also because he’s a courageous model for other people to follow in exposing the predatory practices in the pharmaceutical industry.</p>
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0:06:00
Jim was born in Anchorage Alaska in 1953 - it was a nice place to grow up - he was a pretty normal boy, he got to play little league, walk around town, ride bikes - when Jim was born Anchorage only had about 25,000 people, but now it is close to 400,000
0:07:00
Jim went to the University of Oregon to study business and to get a degree in finance, but one of the required courses was business law, and he didn't miss a question the entire term - he thought it may be a bette fit for him, so he took advanced business law and then decided to go to law school
0:08:00
Jim didn't do well enought in high school to get into any 'good' schools, and wanted to keep his options open by doing well in college - his 1st term was okay with a lot of Bs - Jim decided he had too much free time so increased his number of courses - the next term he got all As with one B
0:09:00
By over loading his courses, he graduated in 3 years - in his last term he needed 10 hours of anything to graduate, so he took 10 hours of teaching sky diving
0:10:00
Jim got his pilot's license when he was 17 - and then went to Harvard for law school
0:11:00
Jim's mom got him a job for lawyer Bob Goldberg, son of Justice Arthur Goldberg who was on the US Supreme Court - Bob had to move to Alaska to escape his father's shadow - Bob represented some of the Native groups
0:12:00
After a few years, Jim opened his own law practice and also decided to run for the State Senate, had traveled to Europe and Israel so was jet lagged and not getting enough sleep and Jim had a psychotic break - Jim had gone to his father's place to sleep but woke at 1am and thought the devil was coming for him - he was on the 2nd floor of the house and looked out the window
0:13:00
Jim thought he could jump far enough to miss the pavement and land on the grass - he jumped out the window and did a rolling landing parachute jump and ran across the street to the school parking lot but thought the devil was still chasing so kept looking over his shoulder - he was put in a straight jacket and hauled off to the Alasks Psychiatric Institute and they pumped him full of something that put him to sleep
0:14:00
Jim has always counted on his mind to accomplish what he set out to do and what was going on - so it was a shock that his mind could become completely unreliable - JIm remembers waking in the hospital and the male nurse asking Jim what day it was
0:15:00
Jim asked how long he'd been asleep - so the nurse noted that Jim wasn't oriented to time - so that was the start of the Alice in Wonderland experience of being in a psychiatric hospital - Jim was given Melaril , he told them he didn't want the psych med thorazine - thorazine was the first of the neuropleptic drugs for people with schizophrenia - it blocks about 80% of the dopamine, so they are basically chemical lobotomies
0:16:00
Jim knew he didn't want to have a 'committed involuntarily' label, so he signed himself in for treatment, but it was hardly voluntary - Jim's fiancee said he was still campaigning in the psych ward, handing out baseball caps, so Jim was pretty out of it - but was doing better and released after 30 days - Jim's not sure the medication did much for him
0:17:00
Jim's father connected Jim with a psychiatrist in New Rochelle, New York and he diagnosed Jim with biploar disorder - but the psych hospital had diagnosed him with atypical psychosis - Jim didn't find that psychiatrist very helpful - then Jim's mother connected him with another psychiatrist, Robert Alberts, who had been a Japanese prisoner of war - Jim says Robert was a wonderful person and told Jim that any one who misses enough sleep will become psychotic - and that Jim needed to manage that - Jim credits Robert with saving Jim from being made permanently mentally health by the mental health system because Jim had that he would never practice law again
0:18:00
When he told hospital staff he'd gone to Harvard law school, that confirmed to them Jim was delusional - Jim didn't accept their conclusion he'd never be able to practice law again, they'd call it 'denial' - Jim says 'denial' of being mental ill is one of the most positive things you can do - because the message of the mental health system is 'abandon all hope ye who enter here'
0:19:00
When in the hospital, they wanted to put Jim on lithium - he said he was a pilot and he couldn't fly if he was taking lithium, but they didn't care about that - so they creatine clearance test to his kidney function because lithium is hard on the liver and Jim's known a number of people killed by lithium - to do the test, they needed a kidnay biopsy, but the doctor couldn't find Jim's kidney's to do the test
0:20:00
Jim finds that work pressure with deadlines - and the habit is to always make the document better and file at the last minute - so Jim tries to file the day before so he doesn't have that sleep problem
0:21:00
Jim knows that if he's not getting enough sleep he can get into trouble, he knows the signs - the first sign is that Jim gets more witty with rejoinders, but nobogy notices except himself - then he'll have 'thought blocking' when he just stops for a few seconds when he's talking (his thoughts are blocked) - the next stage is that Jim thinks people are looking at him funny - he deals with that by telling himself that he's probably not acting funny
0:22:00
Then he'll also try to look at himself from 'above' to see if he's doing anything weird - at that point Jim may take a benzodiazipine (Halcyon) - just to break the cycle and get a nights sleep - it usually only takes 1 pill and then it'll be a year before he needs it again - benzos are highly addictive so its important not to take them daily
0:23:00
The FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) said Jim couldn't fly for 2 days after taking a benzo
0:24:00
Jim got involved in the legal side of mental health simultaneiously with his own psychotic break - in 1956 Congress enacted the Alaska Mental Health Enabling Act and gave a bunch of land for that purpose - later another Act redisgated that land for the state and said they'd maybe pay for it
0:25:00
Jim's mother was head of the Alaska Mental Health at the time and went to Congress and said you can't take this land, that's not legal - they said we don't care - so they sued them and won a billion dollar settlement
0:26:00
Jim found a couple of mental health 'consumer' groups - he was also on the Board of the Alaska Mental Health - then in 2002, Jim read Mad in America, Bad Science, Bad Medicine and the Enduring Mistreatment of the Mentally Ill by Robert Whittaker - to Jim it was a raodmap to challenging forced psychiatric drugging - JIm founded the Law Project for Psychiatric Rights (PsychRights.org) - and it challenged that and shock therapy
0:27:00
PsychRights also educates the public about these medications and shock therapy and their risks - Jim says we shouldn't call ECT (electro convulsive therapy) 'therapy' because it is not
0:28:00
The shock machines were invented in the 50s and have been modified since then - but before the FDA was responsible for regulating medical devices - but they didn't do that for 20 - 30 years - then in the last year they basically said that shock treatment is not harmful and we're not going to regulate them - Jim's says that is outrageous
0:29:00
Just shows how people in psychiatry just don't think - they're running electricity through the brain to cause a grand mal seizure, where neurologists do everything they can to prevent grand mal seizures - the convulsions were so intense people would break bones, bite through their tongue - now they anaesthetize them, but that requires more electricity to cause the convulsion
0:30:00
Dr Peter Breggin has written great psychiatry books - and he says electro shock is really a closed head injury - some people when they get a head injury, become euphoric for a while - but people have horrendous memory loss they don't get back - Jim thinks electro shock should be banned - its barbaric
0:31:00
A court in Conneticut has ordered a woman to be shocked against her will 500 times - that's the thing about psychiatry, 'if something doesn't work, do more of it' -
0:32:00
In November 2006 Jim received a call an expert witness in a massive lawsuit over side effects from the psych med Zyprexa - like diabetes and other metabolic problmes Eli Lily had not owned up to - he said he had documents showing Eli Lily knew from the beginning, hid it from the doctors and they were illegally marketing it to children and the elderly - but he was under a secrecy order - however if he was subpoanaed in another case - he wanted to know if Jim would do that - there's more to the story and that's what is book The Zyprexa Papers is about the New York Times published some articles
0:33:00
The expert witness had also been working with a writer from the New York Times, Alex Berenson - the expert witness gave the documents to Jim - there were a series of front page stories in the NYT and then Eli Lily came after Jim with criminal charges and to the Alaska Bar Association to try to get Jim disbarred
0:34:00
Zyprexa is a 2nd generation neuroleptic medication, also called antipsychotic, but that's just a marketing term - 'neuroleptic' means 'seize the brain' and that is what they do - in the 90s they started atypical neuroleptics which supposedly didn't have negative effects like tardive dyskinesia (results in involuntary, repetitive body movements, which may include grimacing, sticking out the tongue, or smacking the lips) - basically drug induced Parkinson's Disease
0:35:00
It blocks 70 - 90% of dopamine in the basal ganglia, same thing with Parkinson's patients - licking their lips, strange movements - and doctors interpret that in Zyprexa patients as mental illness, not as negative effects of Zyprexa - Eli Lily said this new generation of atypical meds didn't have tardive dyskenesia and that was a lie - another negative effect was neuroliptic malignant syndrome and it is often fatal, and Eli Lily lied about that too
0:36:00
Risperdal causes little boys to grow breasts, called gynecomastia - Seroquel causes problems, like elongates the heart rhythm and that can cause death - they are putting Veterans on Seroquel and another medication and they are dying in their sleep from this drug cocktail - they were prescribed originally for schizophrenia and the manic phase of bipolar disorder - cut in the US a doctor can prescribe any drug for any thing
0:37:00
Pharmaceuticals can only market a drug for a specific illness, but they do it anyway through various guises and artifices, like ghost writing articles, basically huge fraud perpetrated on the public - Dr David Eagleman was the expert witness and had these documents proving Eli Lily's lies and thought the public should know, but he was under a secrecy order
0:38:00
Dr Eagleman was looking for someone to subpeona him and Jim had just won a case for Faith Myers where they wanted to force her to take Zyprexa - Jim had a great witness, Dr Grace Jackson, and she analyzed the papers on which Zyprexa was given approval by the FDA, and she could see it caused diabetes just from that - but not just diabetes
0:39:00
People would gain a 100 pounds in a year - Dr Jackson found the studies were fraudulent - because the meds block dopamine, the first thing the brain does is try to pump out more dopamine - then after a few weeks it grows more dopamine receptors
0:40:00
So abrupt withdrawal causes some people to experience psychosis - but the doctor will say 'see what happens when you're not on medication' - but some people did quite well with the sudden withdrawal, but those people were thrown out of the study
0:41:00
About 2/3 of people in the study dropped out because of the negative effects - so Dr Jackson put all this in a report
0:42:00
Jim shared the documents with the NYT in 2006 and found someone to put them on the internet
0:43:00
Then a group called Psychiatric Survivors got involved - another group Mind Freedom.org with David Oakes, and they also helped get it out - Jim says it was amazing how Eli Lily could whip up Federal Judges to issues orders against Jim without him even being given notice
0:44:00
Psychiatric survivor Eric Weiland had posted them on his website and Eli Lily harassed and threatened him so he took them down - Pat Riser passed away a few years ago probably a result of psych drugging, he wrote the Eli Lilly and said 'geez, I saw these in the NYT and downloaded them and made a few CDs of them and sent them to newspapers and family and friends and went to...
0:45:00
...handed them out in a shopping plaza parking lot - I didn't know they were illegal and sorry, I'm not going to be able to get them all back' - that's one of Jim's favorite vignettes - but Eli Lily had endless money to fight Jim
0:46:00
Jim testified and the judge ruled Jim conspired to steal the documents and a 'criminal act' and that set up Jim for criminal contempt charges
0:47:00
One of the clients in the case had a Gaurdian, and it was only the Gaurdian who could sign release papers so Jim could look at the client's medical records
0:48:00
Jim did get the medical records and the client had been drugged with Zyuprexa against his will - he was held down and injected with it
0:49:00
Eli Lily had portrayed themselves as the 'victim' in the lawsuit, so going after Jim, and the ensuing publicity, would've make Eli Lily look bad - they could have crushed Jim financially - so it was scary because the consequences could have been severe, including jail time
0:50:00
Zyprexa is still available and still forced - about 3 years ago Jim had financial troubles and had to give up most of the pro bono Pysch Rights work he'd been doing for 14 years and boost his law practice
0:51:00
After a year he had some clients but not a lot, so used his time to write the book - Jim would like the public to be aware because he thinks they'll be shocked by Jim's representation of Bill Bickley and to stop him from being drugged against his will
0:52:00
Jim represented him for 4 years, 10 trials and 5 trips to the Alaska Supreme Court - one of those decisions was an important precedent
0:53:00
Jim's says people are really taken with the 2 chapters on his defence of Bill Bickley and how the system is set up against patients, it is basically a kangaroo court - Bill's wife had divorced him and took custody of the 2 kids and sued him for child support which he couldn't afford - he had a good job as a heavy equipment operator and had a nervous breakdown - so Jim tries to convey how people's lives are ruined by what psychiatry does to them
0:54:00
In 2007, Dr Jackson testified that if Bill was continued to be drugged, he'd be dead within 5 years, and she was off by 6 months - Bill's Gaurdian didn't want Jim representing Bill, because they wanted him drugged - Jim won about half the cases for Bill - the Gaurdian told Jim that Bill didn't want Jim to represent him anymore, and Jim said that he'd never heard Bill say that
0:55:00
The judge asked Bill if he wanted Jim to represent him, and Bill said 'Jim knows a lot about me. And I'm the president." - the Gaurdian changed their tune after that, and said that Bill was not competent to make the decision - while Jim won half of Bill'ls cases, the Public Defendor who lost all but one of the cases - but the Alaska Supreme Court decided that Bill could not choose Jim as his lawyer, and that is a very frightening thing - so they got to drug him without constraint and he died within a couple of years
0:56:00
Jim pointed out to the Gaurdian that these drugs shorten lives, and the Gaurdian argued that quality of life is important - but they didn't care what Bill thought of his quality of life, and it was better without the drugs
0:57:00
One of the reasons Jim wrote the Zyprexa Papers is to bring people's attention - it is available on Amazon in Kindle or paperback
0:58:00
To connect with Jim, go to PsychRights.org and email him through that site
0:59:00
Jim talks to people all the time who had no idea this was going on - 'you can learn from your mistakes, but its better to learn from other people's mistakes' - hopefully he can prevent other people from having this sort of terrible thing happen to them
 
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<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
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<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Big pharmaceutical company Eli Lily was hiding the truth about the harms caused by their antipsychotic medication called Zyprexa -- until lawyer Jim Gottstein got a hold of the evidence and shared it with the New York Times.  You will not be surprised to hear that Eli Lily’s lawyers went after Jim hard with criminal charges to destroy his career, his livelihood and his freedom.
In my interview with Jim about his personal experience with the mental health system, and his legal career focused on mental health, I ask him why he’s exposing big pharma deceit now in his new book The Zyprexa Papers. 
Jim also tells about his personal experience with psychosis when he was over worked and under slept, and woke suddenly one night and thought he was being chased by the devil. Jim threw himself out a 2nd story window to escape. Fortunately, Jim is also skydiver, and knew how to roll his landing without injury. But it was Jim’s lived experience in the mental health system that prepared him for legal battles representing clients about mental health issues. Jim’s lived experience with the mental health system is priceless, adds value to a good legal defense, and cannot be taught in law school. 
Jim also tells the story of how he became the lawyer to expose Eli Lily’s lies about the safety of their Zyprexa medication and the impact that had on his life and career. Jim became a leader in the psychiatric survivor community, founding patient organizations including PsychRights.org - and providing his legal services pro bono to clients who didn’t want to be forced to take medications.
In The Zyprexa Papers, Jim gives a riveting first-hand account of what really happened, including new details about how a small group of psychiatric survivors spread the Zyprexa Papers on the Internet untraceably. All of this within a gripping, plain-language explanation of complex legal maneuvering and his battles on behalf of Bill Bigley, the psychiatric patient whose ordeal made possible the exposure of the Zyprexa Papers.
The Zyprexa Papers included hundreds of internal Eli Lilly documents and emails that showed company officials knew their best-selling drug was severely harming people while scarcely helping anyone. Release of the papers exposed the abuses of the drug industry besides the harm that Zyprexa was doing.
The series of front page stories in "The New York Times" could have saved tens of thousands of lives according to Jim's estimate.
The public benefits greatly from Jim’s efforts, not only because of the life-saving information he released, but also because he’s a courageous model for other people to follow in exposing the predatory practices in the pharmaceutical industry.
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Jim was born in Anchorage Alaska in 1953 - it was a nice place to grow up - he was a pretty normal boy, he got to play little league, walk around town, ride bikes - when Jim was born Anchorage only had about 25,000 people, but now it is close to 400,000
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Jim went to the University of Oregon to study business and to get a degree in finance, but one of the required courses was business law, and he didn't miss a question the entire term - he thought it may be a bette fit for him, so he took advanced business law and then decided to go to law school
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Jim didn't do well enought in high school to get into any 'good' schools, and wanted to keep his options open by doing well in college - his 1st term was okay with a lot of Bs - Jim decided he had too much free time so increased his number of courses - the next term he got all As with one B
0:09:00
By over loading his courses, he graduated in 3 years - in his last term he needed 10 hours of anything to graduate, so he took 10 hours of teaching sky diving
0:10:00
Jim got his pilot's license when he was 17 - and then went to Harvard for law school
0:11:00
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        <title>Lana Mills-Sowchuk: Paying for torture - how her father was the victim of secret CIA brainwashing experiments</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Lana’s father went to the hospital for asthma - but he was referred to another hospital - renowned Canadian psychiatric hospital, the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal - where they proceeded to secretly conduct experiments on him and hundreds of others over many years.</p>
<p>I had a vague recollection of hearing about the secret CIA brain-washing experiments of the 50s and 60s, but recently I was made aware of a class action lawsuit started by the surviving victims and their families. </p>
<p>It turns out that in 1977 it emerged that the CIA had been funding experiments in mind-control brainwashing as part of a project known as MK Ultra.</p>
<p>At the time, the CIA was scrambling to deepen its understanding of brainwashing, after a handful of Americans captured during the Korean war had publicly praised communism and denounced the US. </p>
<p>This so-called ‘research’ was undertaken at more than 80 institutions, including colleges and universities, prisons, and hospitals.</p>
<p>One of the doctors the CIA connected with, was Montreal psychiatrist Ewen Cameron, who was trying to discover whether doctors could erase a person’s mind and instill new patterns of behaviour.</p>
<p>Some of the things he did to his patients, like Lana’s father, are so horrible and unbelievable that it sounds like the stuff of b movie nightmares.</p>
<p>Patients were subjected to high-voltage electroshock therapy several times a day, forced into drug-induced sleeps that could last months and injected with megadoses of LSD.</p>
<p>Other experiments included sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse and other forms of torture.</p>
<p>After reducing them to a childlike state – at times stripping them of basic skills such as how to dress themselves or tie their shoes – Dr Cameron would attempt to reprogram them by bombarding them with recorded messages for up to 16 hours at a time. First came negative messages about their inadequacies, followed by positive ones, in some cases repeated up to half a million times.</p>
<p>Dr Cameron couldn’t get his patients to listen to them enough so he put speakers in football helmets and locked them on their heads. Reportedly, patients were going crazy banging their heads into walls trying to escape the constant messages. </p>
<p>So what does Dr Cameron do with these non-compliant medical experiments? He put them in a drug induced coma and so he could play the tapes as long as he wished.</p>
<p>Lana tells how the man her father was - successful and upwardly mobile in his career - was destroyed by these secret experiments. The effects reverberate throughout his family to this day. Lana’s father could no longer work, and they lived in poverty as her mother struggled to put food on the table --- and then she was required to pay for her husband’s shock therapy - as Lana says, her mother was paying for father’s torture.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:06:30
Lana grew up in a small town called Chamby, south of Montreal -- Lana's father was known as the crazy guy who rode his bike around town - and this was embarassing for her, she couldn't explain his behaviour to her friends because she didn't understand it herself
0:07:30
Lana's childhood was chaotic and she spent a lot of time with her god mother, her mother's sister- Lana lived with her every summer and helped raise Lana because her mother was always at the Allan Memorial Hospital in Montreal - so it was Aunt Isabel who took care of Lana when her mother couldn't because she was working to try to put food on the table
0:08:30
Lana's father couldn't work any more because he was not able to - the Allan Memorial Hospital is connected to the Royal Victoria Hospital, and is situated on top of Mount Royal - when Lana was in her late teens, she learned of the MKUltra brain washing experiments at Allan Memorial, but it was always hush-hush in the family - she didn't understand at the time, but would find out later
0:09:30
in 1952 Lana's father was attending the Royal Victoria asthma clinic - he was told that if he went to the Allan Memorial Hospital they would cure his asthma - and that's where he was experimented on - he never gave his consent to any of the treatments he endured
0:10:30
The CIA and the Canadian government were funding the Allan Memorial for brain washing experiments in the Cold War era of the 50s with the Soviets - they were trying to experimenting for treatments they could give to soldiers, so that if they were captured, there memories would have been wiped out so they were useless as informants - so they were experimenting on Lana's dad and hundreds of others
0:11:30
Lana got her father's medical records, and there are a whole bunch of blank consent forms with her father's signature, but didn't say what he was being treated for - they just made him sign all these blank consent forms - he was in and out of the Allan Memorial for years and years - one time he was put into an insulin coma for 36 days
0:12:30
While he was in the coma, they had a recording beside him playing constantly: "Your mother hates you. Your mother hates you. Your mother hates you." for 36 days - basically just torturing him - he also went through 54 high voltage shock treatments causing grand mal seizures - he was never the same after that
0:13:30
Lana was born in 1956, so did not know her father before he was experimented on - Lana has 1 sister, 4 years only - Lana's father had no judgment whatsoever
0:14:30
He would steal from the grocery store to feed people on welfare - but not to his family, who were starving - when Lana was a mother, her father his grand kids in a box and put it on top of the car and drove down the road - the kids thought it was great, but they could've been killed - he got Lana's 7 year old son drunk and he spent many days in the children's hospital
0:15:30
When Lana asked her father what he was thinking, he said he wanted someone to drink with - he was a big drinker, but was an Alcoholics Anonymous member by the end of his life - he also smoked a lot - Lana noticed that a lot of the Allan Memorial victims were heavy smokers
0:16:30
It was scary for Lana as a child to go to the Allan Memorial Hospital to visit her father - when she thinks back, it was like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest going in there - her father did not like going into the Allan Memorial - he was either manic or depressed, not in between - other times he was catatonic and unresponsive
0:17:30
Lana was basically a latch key kid - sometimes he couldn't talk and would just stare into space - but other times he would do crazy things - so either manic or catatonic - one time they thought he was in a coma, they called the next door neighbour, a nurse to come over - she called an ambulance and got in the amublance with him - he was flatlining so she punched him in the head, and that woke him up
0:18:30
One time his car broke down in Montreal - he walked all the way home, picked up the tools he needed, and walked back to the car - it took him a couple of days
0:19:30
Lana's father would go to the Allan Memorial for their Day Clinic to regulate his medications - he was on all kinds of meds, lithium - one time when Lana was a teenager her father flushed all his medications down the toilet
0:20:30
The result was that he was high / manic all the time - sometimes her Mom would let the air out of his car tires in the morning so he couldn't go any where - later he lost his driver's license when his car broke down and since he had a case of beer in the car, he started drinking - he was arrested but represented himself in court, wearing his dirty old shorts and bare feet and no teeth - one time he was riding his bike past the dentist's office, stopped ond opened the mailbox - there was an envelope with a $10,000 cheque for the dentist
0:21:30
Her father went to the bank - back in those days they would take a picture of someone who was cashing cheques for large amounts - so he stood there in his dirty old t-shirt, not a tooth in his head because he lost them all from all the psych meds they put him on, proudly holding up the cheque - and the bank cashed it - when Lana's mother figured out what was happening, she went to the dentist to explain - Lana's mother went through hell trying to cover up and clean up because people didn't understand - Lana could have lost her children to social services when her father got her 8 year old son drunk - the doctor who was in emergency at the children's hospital
0:22:30
Lana told the ER doctor that her father was a patient of Dr Cameron at the Allan Memorial Hospital - the ER doctor looked at Lana and said "I understand. I'm not going to call social services"
0:23:30
In retrospect, Lana realizes the ER doctor knew what was happeing at the Allan Memorial - because Lana father couldn't work, they lived in poverty - before he was experimented on, her father was quickly working his way up the business ladder
0:24:30
Just after he went into the Allan Memorial the first time, her father had been given a promotion and relocated to Ottawa, but now couldn't handle working, and ended up with deep depression and back at the Allan Memorial - after that he had occasional odd jobs - Lana's mother worked a 4 hour shift at Bell Canada in Laval, but it took her about 2 hours to get there and back
0:25:30
in 1984, Lana told her Mom they should request her Dad's medical files - when the envelope arrived her Mom couldn't open it, she was too distraught - and Lana didn't look at them, she thought her Mom destroyed them
0:26:30
When Lana's Mom passed away and they were cleaning out her house, Lana found the envelope and her Mom had written Lana's name on it - her father had also passed away by that time - there was the Ex Gratia package (compensation without admission of wrongdoing) for the MKUltra brain washing victims of $100k - but since her father was dead when the Ex Gratia was offered to victims, even though her Mom applied, she was rejected - this is why Lana is fighting today, her Mom left that envelope so Lana could fight for justice
0:27:30
When Lana did open the envelope with her Dad's medical records, she found a lot of medical language that was hard to understand, so she put it back in the cupboard - then her friend phoned her about The Fifth Estate (investigative TV program) was doing an episode about the CIA brain washing in Montreal - Lana and her sister went to see Mr Stein, the lawyer pursuing justice for victims and he confirmed that since her Dad was dead, the family could not get compensation - Lana decided to write a book about her father's experience
0:28:30
Lana hired a writer and she learned more as they researched more - the writer got scared when it became apparent the CIA and Canadian government were involved in the brain washing and talked to a lawyer who said they needed to change the names so they didn't get sued - Lana was against changing their names and the writer refused to continue, so the file went back into the cupbaord again
0:29:30
Lana did not have that same fear - she wanted people to know what happened to her father, that people are held accountable, and that justice is served - so now Lana is part of a lawsuit and got to talk to other people in the same situation and what they find in the medical files
0:30:30
Now Lana is involved in a class action lawsuit headed by the Consumer Law Group - now they are waiting for a judge to appointed to their case - there is a great amount of documentation and recently a lot of documentaries, so people are learning what happened
0:31:30
Thay launched the class action lawsuit in January 2019 - once a judge is appointed, hopefully the case will be certified as a class action and will move forward - the statute of limitations does not apply because the experiments are 'torture'
0:32:30
In October, victims' families held a rally on Parliament Hill, with speeches and marched down to the US Embassy - there are 2 more rallies this April in Montreal
0:33:30
Lana has also filed a freedom of information request to get a copy of her father's medical record, even though she already had the copy her Mom received many years before - when she got a copy of the files, they were only half as much as her Mom had received - so now Lana has a hearing in April about the discrepancy
0:34:30
The Consumer Law Group will represent Lana at the hearing - the Consumer Law Group is working on a contingent fee basis, so it is not costing the patients families any lawyer fees up front - the lawyers will only get paid if they succeed in court
0:35:30
For the rally on Parliament Hill, Lana had to get permits, sign size approved, parking permit, etc and she did everything by the book - but when she arrives they tell her that her name is not in the system and refuse access
0:36:30
Their press release was supposed to be sent to all journalists, but mostly American journalists showed up, which seemed fishy - Lana called one of the Canadian journalists and he said he never received it
0:37:30
Lana is looking for 2 things from the lawsuit: for the truth to come out about the experiments and people to be held accountable, and also to be financially compensated - and an apology - Lana would also like to see a memorial plaque erected at the Allan Memorial Hospital
0:38:30
There are close to 400 members of the group that is suing - their class action lawsuit covers the period from 1953 to 1964 - that's when the funding was coming from the US
0:39:30
Lana's father's 'care' was transferred to the Douglas Hospital, another mental hospital outside of Montreal - but he was also under the care of another psychiatrist at the Montreal General hospital - Lana remembers being there with her father one time, the entrance had a revolving door and her father stayed in there going around and around - he told his family he didn't want to go for shock treatments - part of the purpose of the 'treatments' was to wipe out the memory
0:40:30
One time when her father came home from another stay at the Allan Memorial, her sister was very excited - when he arrived she ran up to the car and he looked at her, but didn't know who she was - at only 5 or 6 years old, Lana's sister couldn't understand what happened her father - that's what happened when they wiped out his memory
0:41:30
She expected him to pick her and throw her in the air like he always did - but he just had a blank face, no emotion, no recognition - the impact was reverberated throughout her family: embarassment, poverty, 2nd hand clothes, lots of potatoes
0:42:30
Lana does not know how her mother did it - the was before medicare, so every time Lana's father went in for shock treatment, she would have to pay the 'treatment' costs - essentially paying for your husband to be tortured - Lana doesn't know how her mom managed to put food on the table - one time Lana asked her mom why she doesn't just divorce her dad - her mom looked at her and said 'its not his fault'
0:43:30
Lana's mom lived another 17 years after Lana's father died - she enjoyed the last years of her own life with the stress of her husband - it was a relief in some sense
0:44:30
Lana worked for the Royal Bank of Canada in Montreal for 21 years and one day decided she wanted to take care of seniors - so she quit her job, even though she was only 1 year away from a pension
0:45:30
Lana started her own business of taking care of seniors and has been doing it for 23 years - she has 4 employees and they give their senior clients the love and care they need - Lana has a lot of clients with Alzheimer's, but dealing with her dad for all those years prepared her well
0:46:30
Lana's dad played the guitar, mouth organ, and could play the piano cross handed - but he would play late into the night, and Lana was trying to sleep for school - she hated it and country music, but now she has her dad's (his name is Iver) song book and it means a lot to her - and those songs help her connect with her senior clients
0:47:30
Lana's sister went to McGill university and is now a teacher - Lana doesn't know how, but her mother found money for the tuition from an obscure bursary for descendants of Scottish people and other grants
0:48:30
Lana went to business college - Lana hoped secret experiments won't happen again in teh future, but she's not hopeful based on what she sees - there is secret stuff going on, but at least by bringing awareness to the topic - when Lana's son was born, the staff wanted to do experiments on him, for SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome), but Lana did not agree, especially after what she went through with her dad
0:49:30
Lana does not like going to doctors - she will google her symptoms to diagnose herself and then goes to her doctor for treatment - Lana thinks that seniors in nursing homes are over medicated
0:50:30
Lana had a client that was very compulsive, the doctor put him on an anti-psychotic and that didn't work, so the doctor tried medical marijuana and that leveled the patient out and the family was so happy - but what Lana sees in nursing homes is drug them, zonk them, make them compliant
0:51:30
Lana has always been a fighter for what's right, but this fight for justice for her dad is the biggest fight - Lana got a tattoo to honour her parents, it is over her heart, so she has them in her heart
0:52:30
It is hard to fathom how the government and doctors and the health care system betrayed its citizens - Lana says Dr Cameron's face is so publicized now, he's getting recogniable on social media - to find out more about the lawsuit for affected families, Lana says people can contact the Consumer Law Group - or SAAGA (survivors allied against government abuse) online and hook up with the lead plaintiff
0:53:30
Lana says she surprised she didn't cry during the interview, she has before - she thinks she must be getting stronger
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<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lana’s father went to the hospital for asthma - but he was referred to another hospital - renowned Canadian psychiatric hospital, the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal - where they proceeded to secretly conduct experiments on him and hundreds of others over many years.</p>
<p>I had a vague recollection of hearing about the secret CIA brain-washing experiments of the 50s and 60s, but recently I was made aware of a class action lawsuit started by the surviving victims and their families. </p>
<p>It turns out that in 1977 it emerged that the CIA had been funding experiments in mind-control brainwashing as part of a project known as MK Ultra.</p>
<p>At the time, the CIA was scrambling to deepen its understanding of brainwashing, after a handful of Americans captured during the Korean war had publicly praised communism and denounced the US. </p>
<p>This so-called ‘research’ was undertaken at more than 80 institutions, including colleges and universities, prisons, and hospitals.</p>
<p>One of the doctors the CIA connected with, was Montreal psychiatrist Ewen Cameron, who was trying to discover whether doctors could erase a person’s mind and instill new patterns of behaviour.</p>
<p>Some of the things he did to his patients, like Lana’s father, are so horrible and unbelievable that it sounds like the stuff of b movie nightmares.</p>
<p>Patients were subjected to high-voltage electroshock therapy several times a day, forced into drug-induced sleeps that could last months and injected with megadoses of LSD.</p>
<p>Other experiments included sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse and other forms of torture.</p>
<p>After reducing them to a childlike state – at times stripping them of basic skills such as how to dress themselves or tie their shoes – Dr Cameron would attempt to reprogram them by bombarding them with recorded messages for up to 16 hours at a time. First came negative messages about their inadequacies, followed by positive ones, in some cases repeated up to half a million times.</p>
<p>Dr Cameron couldn’t get his patients to listen to them enough so he put speakers in football helmets and locked them on their heads. Reportedly, patients were going crazy banging their heads into walls trying to escape the constant messages. </p>
<p>So what does Dr Cameron do with these non-compliant medical experiments? He put them in a drug induced coma and so he could play the tapes as long as he wished.</p>
<p>Lana tells how the man her father was - successful and upwardly mobile in his career - was destroyed by these secret experiments. The effects reverberate throughout his family to this day. Lana’s father could no longer work, and they lived in poverty as her mother struggled to put food on the table --- and then she was required to pay for her husband’s shock therapy - as Lana says, her mother was paying for father’s torture.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:06:30
Lana grew up in a small town called Chamby, south of Montreal -- Lana's father was known as the crazy guy who rode his bike around town - and this was embarassing for her, she couldn't explain his behaviour to her friends because she didn't understand it herself
0:07:30
Lana's childhood was chaotic and she spent a lot of time with her god mother, her mother's sister- Lana lived with her every summer and helped raise Lana because her mother was always at the Allan Memorial Hospital in Montreal - so it was Aunt Isabel who took care of Lana when her mother couldn't because she was working to try to put food on the table
0:08:30
Lana's father couldn't work any more because he was not able to - the Allan Memorial Hospital is connected to the Royal Victoria Hospital, and is situated on top of Mount Royal - when Lana was in her late teens, she learned of the MKUltra brain washing experiments at Allan Memorial, but it was always hush-hush in the family - she didn't understand at the time, but would find out later
0:09:30
in 1952 Lana's father was attending the Royal Victoria asthma clinic - he was told that if he went to the Allan Memorial Hospital they would cure his asthma - and that's where he was experimented on - he never gave his consent to any of the treatments he endured
0:10:30
The CIA and the Canadian government were funding the Allan Memorial for brain washing experiments in the Cold War era of the 50s with the Soviets - they were trying to experimenting for treatments they could give to soldiers, so that if they were captured, there memories would have been wiped out so they were useless as informants - so they were experimenting on Lana's dad and hundreds of others
0:11:30
Lana got her father's medical records, and there are a whole bunch of blank consent forms with her father's signature, but didn't say what he was being treated for - they just made him sign all these blank consent forms - he was in and out of the Allan Memorial for years and years - one time he was put into an insulin coma for 36 days
0:12:30
While he was in the coma, they had a recording beside him playing constantly: "Your mother hates you. Your mother hates you. Your mother hates you." for 36 days - basically just torturing him - he also went through 54 high voltage shock treatments causing grand mal seizures - he was never the same after that
0:13:30
Lana was born in 1956, so did not know her father before he was experimented on - Lana has 1 sister, 4 years only - Lana's father had no judgment whatsoever
0:14:30
He would steal from the grocery store to feed people on welfare - but not to his family, who were starving - when Lana was a mother, her father his grand kids in a box and put it on top of the car and drove down the road - the kids thought it was great, but they could've been killed - he got Lana's 7 year old son drunk and he spent many days in the children's hospital
0:15:30
When Lana asked her father what he was thinking, he said he wanted someone to drink with - he was a big drinker, but was an Alcoholics Anonymous member by the end of his life - he also smoked a lot - Lana noticed that a lot of the Allan Memorial victims were heavy smokers
0:16:30
It was scary for Lana as a child to go to the Allan Memorial Hospital to visit her father - when she thinks back, it was like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest going in there - her father did not like going into the Allan Memorial - he was either manic or depressed, not in between - other times he was catatonic and unresponsive
0:17:30
Lana was basically a latch key kid - sometimes he couldn't talk and would just stare into space - but other times he would do crazy things - so either manic or catatonic - one time they thought he was in a coma, they called the next door neighbour, a nurse to come over - she called an ambulance and got in the amublance with him - he was flatlining so she punched him in the head, and that woke him up
0:18:30
One time his car broke down in Montreal - he walked all the way home, picked up the tools he needed, and walked back to the car - it took him a couple of days
0:19:30
Lana's father would go to the Allan Memorial for their Day Clinic to regulate his medications - he was on all kinds of meds, lithium - one time when Lana was a teenager her father flushed all his medications down the toilet
0:20:30
The result was that he was high / manic all the time - sometimes her Mom would let the air out of his car tires in the morning so he couldn't go any where - later he lost his driver's license when his car broke down and since he had a case of beer in the car, he started drinking - he was arrested but represented himself in court, wearing his dirty old shorts and bare feet and no teeth - one time he was riding his bike past the dentist's office, stopped ond opened the mailbox - there was an envelope with a $10,000 cheque for the dentist
0:21:30
Her father went to the bank - back in those days they would take a picture of someone who was cashing cheques for large amounts - so he stood there in his dirty old t-shirt, not a tooth in his head because he lost them all from all the psych meds they put him on, proudly holding up the cheque - and the bank cashed it - when Lana's mother figured out what was happening, she went to the dentist to explain - Lana's mother went through hell trying to cover up and clean up because people didn't understand - Lana could have lost her children to social services when her father got her 8 year old son drunk - the doctor who was in emergency at the children's hospital
0:22:30
Lana told the ER doctor that her father was a patient of Dr Cameron at the Allan Memorial Hospital - the ER doctor looked at Lana and said "I understand. I'm not going to call social services"
0:23:30
In retrospect, Lana realizes the ER doctor knew what was happeing at the Allan Memorial - because Lana father couldn't work, they lived in poverty - before he was experimented on, her father was quickly working his way up the business ladder
0:24:30
Just after he went into the Allan Memorial the first time, her father had been given a promotion and relocated to Ottawa, but now couldn't handle working, and ended up with deep depression and back at the Allan Memorial - after that he had occasional odd jobs - Lana's mother worked a 4 hour shift at Bell Canada in Laval, but it took her about 2 hours to get there and back
0:25:30
in 1984, Lana told her Mom they should request her Dad's medical files - when the envelope arrived her Mom couldn't open it, she was too distraught - and Lana didn't look at them, she thought her Mom destroyed them
0:26:30
When Lana's Mom passed away and they were cleaning out her house, Lana found the envelope and her Mom had written Lana's name on it - her father had also passed away by that time - there was the Ex Gratia package (compensation without admission of wrongdoing) for the MKUltra brain washing victims of $100k - but since her father was dead when the Ex Gratia was offered to victims, even though her Mom applied, she was rejected - this is why Lana is fighting today, her Mom left that envelope so Lana could fight for justice
0:27:30
When Lana did open the envelope with her Dad's medical records, she found a lot of medical language that was hard to understand, so she put it back in the cupboard - then her friend phoned her about The Fifth Estate (investigative TV program) was doing an episode about the CIA brain washing in Montreal - Lana and her sister went to see Mr Stein, the lawyer pursuing justice for victims and he confirmed that since her Dad was dead, the family could not get compensation - Lana decided to write a book about her father's experience
0:28:30
Lana hired a writer and she learned more as they researched more - the writer got scared when it became apparent the CIA and Canadian government were involved in the brain washing and talked to a lawyer who said they needed to change the names so they didn't get sued - Lana was against changing their names and the writer refused to continue, so the file went back into the cupbaord again
0:29:30
Lana did not have that same fear - she wanted people to know what happened to her father, that people are held accountable, and that justice is served - so now Lana is part of a lawsuit and got to talk to other people in the same situation and what they find in the medical files
0:30:30
Now Lana is involved in a class action lawsuit headed by the Consumer Law Group - now they are waiting for a judge to appointed to their case - there is a great amount of documentation and recently a lot of documentaries, so people are learning what happened
0:31:30
Thay launched the class action lawsuit in January 2019 - once a judge is appointed, hopefully the case will be certified as a class action and will move forward - the statute of limitations does not apply because the experiments are 'torture'
0:32:30
In October, victims' families held a rally on Parliament Hill, with speeches and marched down to the US Embassy - there are 2 more rallies this April in Montreal
0:33:30
Lana has also filed a freedom of information request to get a copy of her father's medical record, even though she already had the copy her Mom received many years before - when she got a copy of the files, they were only half as much as her Mom had received - so now Lana has a hearing in April about the discrepancy
0:34:30
The Consumer Law Group will represent Lana at the hearing - the Consumer Law Group is working on a contingent fee basis, so it is not costing the patients families any lawyer fees up front - the lawyers will only get paid if they succeed in court
0:35:30
For the rally on Parliament Hill, Lana had to get permits, sign size approved, parking permit, etc and she did everything by the book - but when she arrives they tell her that her name is not in the system and refuse access
0:36:30
Their press release was supposed to be sent to all journalists, but mostly American journalists showed up, which seemed fishy - Lana called one of the Canadian journalists and he said he never received it
0:37:30
Lana is looking for 2 things from the lawsuit: for the truth to come out about the experiments and people to be held accountable, and also to be financially compensated - and an apology - Lana would also like to see a memorial plaque erected at the Allan Memorial Hospital
0:38:30
There are close to 400 members of the group that is suing - their class action lawsuit covers the period from 1953 to 1964 - that's when the funding was coming from the US
0:39:30
Lana's father's 'care' was transferred to the Douglas Hospital, another mental hospital outside of Montreal - but he was also under the care of another psychiatrist at the Montreal General hospital - Lana remembers being there with her father one time, the entrance had a revolving door and her father stayed in there going around and around - he told his family he didn't want to go for shock treatments - part of the purpose of the 'treatments' was to wipe out the memory
0:40:30
One time when her father came home from another stay at the Allan Memorial, her sister was very excited - when he arrived she ran up to the car and he looked at her, but didn't know who she was - at only 5 or 6 years old, Lana's sister couldn't understand what happened her father - that's what happened when they wiped out his memory
0:41:30
She expected him to pick her and throw her in the air like he always did - but he just had a blank face, no emotion, no recognition - the impact was reverberated throughout her family: embarassment, poverty, 2nd hand clothes, lots of potatoes
0:42:30
Lana does not know how her mother did it - the was before medicare, so every time Lana's father went in for shock treatment, she would have to pay the 'treatment' costs - essentially paying for your husband to be tortured - Lana doesn't know how her mom managed to put food on the table - one time Lana asked her mom why she doesn't just divorce her dad - her mom looked at her and said 'its not his fault'
0:43:30
Lana's mom lived another 17 years after Lana's father died - she enjoyed the last years of her own life with the stress of her husband - it was a relief in some sense
0:44:30
Lana worked for the Royal Bank of Canada in Montreal for 21 years and one day decided she wanted to take care of seniors - so she quit her job, even though she was only 1 year away from a pension
0:45:30
Lana started her own business of taking care of seniors and has been doing it for 23 years - she has 4 employees and they give their senior clients the love and care they need - Lana has a lot of clients with Alzheimer's, but dealing with her dad for all those years prepared her well
0:46:30
Lana's dad played the guitar, mouth organ, and could play the piano cross handed - but he would play late into the night, and Lana was trying to sleep for school - she hated it and country music, but now she has her dad's (his name is Iver) song book and it means a lot to her - and those songs help her connect with her senior clients
0:47:30
Lana's sister went to McGill university and is now a teacher - Lana doesn't know how, but her mother found money for the tuition from an obscure bursary for descendants of Scottish people and other grants
0:48:30
Lana went to business college - Lana hoped secret experiments won't happen again in teh future, but she's not hopeful based on what she sees - there is secret stuff going on, but at least by bringing awareness to the topic - when Lana's son was born, the staff wanted to do experiments on him, for SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome), but Lana did not agree, especially after what she went through with her dad
0:49:30
Lana does not like going to doctors - she will google her symptoms to diagnose herself and then goes to her doctor for treatment - Lana thinks that seniors in nursing homes are over medicated
0:50:30
Lana had a client that was very compulsive, the doctor put him on an anti-psychotic and that didn't work, so the doctor tried medical marijuana and that leveled the patient out and the family was so happy - but what Lana sees in nursing homes is drug them, zonk them, make them compliant
0:51:30
Lana has always been a fighter for what's right, but this fight for justice for her dad is the biggest fight - Lana got a tattoo to honour her parents, it is over her heart, so she has them in her heart
0:52:30
It is hard to fathom how the government and doctors and the health care system betrayed its citizens - Lana says Dr Cameron's face is so publicized now, he's getting recogniable on social media - to find out more about the lawsuit for affected families, Lana says people can contact the Consumer Law Group - or SAAGA (survivors allied against government abuse) online and hook up with the lead plaintiff
0:53:30
Lana says she surprised she didn't cry during the interview, she has before - she thinks she must be getting stronger
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<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Lana’s father went to the hospital for asthma - but he was referred to another hospital - renowned Canadian psychiatric hospital, the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal - where they proceeded to secretly conduct experiments on him and hundreds of others over many years.
I had a vague recollection of hearing about the secret CIA brain-washing experiments of the 50s and 60s, but recently I was made aware of a class action lawsuit started by the surviving victims and their families. 
It turns out that in 1977 it emerged that the CIA had been funding experiments in mind-control brainwashing as part of a project known as MK Ultra.
At the time, the CIA was scrambling to deepen its understanding of brainwashing, after a handful of Americans captured during the Korean war had publicly praised communism and denounced the US. 
This so-called ‘research’ was undertaken at more than 80 institutions, including colleges and universities, prisons, and hospitals.
One of the doctors the CIA connected with, was Montreal psychiatrist Ewen Cameron, who was trying to discover whether doctors could erase a person’s mind and instill new patterns of behaviour.
Some of the things he did to his patients, like Lana’s father, are so horrible and unbelievable that it sounds like the stuff of b movie nightmares.
Patients were subjected to high-voltage electroshock therapy several times a day, forced into drug-induced sleeps that could last months and injected with megadoses of LSD.
Other experiments included sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse and other forms of torture.
After reducing them to a childlike state – at times stripping them of basic skills such as how to dress themselves or tie their shoes – Dr Cameron would attempt to reprogram them by bombarding them with recorded messages for up to 16 hours at a time. First came negative messages about their inadequacies, followed by positive ones, in some cases repeated up to half a million times.
Dr Cameron couldn’t get his patients to listen to them enough so he put speakers in football helmets and locked them on their heads. Reportedly, patients were going crazy banging their heads into walls trying to escape the constant messages. 
So what does Dr Cameron do with these non-compliant medical experiments? He put them in a drug induced coma and so he could play the tapes as long as he wished.
Lana tells how the man her father was - successful and upwardly mobile in his career - was destroyed by these secret experiments. The effects reverberate throughout his family to this day. Lana’s father could no longer work, and they lived in poverty as her mother struggled to put food on the table --- and then she was required to pay for her husband’s shock therapy - as Lana says, her mother was paying for father’s torture.
SHOW NOTES:
0:06:30
Lana grew up in a small town called Chamby, south of Montreal -- Lana's father was known as the crazy guy who rode his bike around town - and this was embarassing for her, she couldn't explain his behaviour to her friends because she didn't understand it herself
0:07:30
Lana's childhood was chaotic and she spent a lot of time with her god mother, her mother's sister- Lana lived with her every summer and helped raise Lana because her mother was always at the Allan Memorial Hospital in Montreal - so it was Aunt Isabel who took care of Lana when her mother couldn't because she was working to try to put food on the table
0:08:30
Lana's father couldn't work any more because he was not able to - the Allan Memorial Hospital is connected to the Royal Victoria Hospital, and is situated on top of Mount Royal - when Lana was in her late teens, she learned of the MKUltra brain washing experiments at Allan Memorial, but it was always hush-hush in the family - she didn't understand at the time, but would find out later
0:09:30
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Teri McGrath, nurse and health educator, is very familiar with the paternalistic and misogynistic medical culture - in fact, her own physical symptoms were repeatedly dismissed by doctors until they discovered Teri was hyperthyroid. Turns out Teri’s symptoms weren’t ‘all in her pretty little head’, but actually stemming from an overactive thyroid that would have eventually killed her.</p>
<p>Today, Teri is taking on the behemoth medical system that routinely hides or denies medical harm and death, and the Goliath legal-medico system that effectively makes seeking compensation by medical error victims a traumatizing experience, financially draining, and an exercise in futility.</p>
<p>Canadian doctors have finagled themselves a pretty sweet deal: they have manipulated the political, legal and insurance systems so that when medical malpractice occurs, tax payers pay for the doctors high price lawyers. That is millions and millions of dollars each year coming out of tax payers pockets.  The medical error victims - many of them too injured to work - are left to their own devices with no financial support for legal costs.</p>
<p>And what do these high price lawyers do? They fight the injured victims every step of the way, making it as hard - and expensive - and as long - as possible. The lawyers tactic is to bankrupt the injured victim before the case goes to court, or delay the court case in hopes the patient dies in the interim, thereby immediately ending the lawsuit.</p>
<p>No wonder fewer and fewer people trust their doctor. Or their politicians. They have set up the system so that medically injured patients are also emotionally traumatized and financially bankrupt. It is not by accident -- it is intentional and tactical to inflict more harm.</p>
<p>So Teri is on a mission to do 2 things:  Make reporting of medical errors mandatory -- and increase access to compensation for medical error victims.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:06:00
Teri grew up in a small town called Espanola in Ontario, Canada -- Teri went to boarding school and then to studying nursing at college -- the boarding school was run by the nuns and Teri had an idealistic view of the world
0:07:00
When Teri was a child, her father would gut a turkey and tell her about the internal body parts and Teri set a goal of becoming an operating room nurse - but with the idealistic rhetoric in boarding school, her goal was to help people and she's still helping people to this day - Teri ended up teaching nursing in Saskathewan and then found out about 'outpost nursing'
0:08:00
Teri started outpost nursing on a small Aboriginal Reserve north of Saskatoon - then moved to a small town to work as a health educator - Teri saw how poor healthcare was for Aboriginal women and decided to do something about it - she went to a conference in Pheonix called 'Wellness and Women' and Teri wanted to do a similar conference in Canada and it took off - she credits that conference to a number of woman who are now Chiefs on their Reserves and educated about health
0:09:00
The conference covered a wide range of health issues, and Teri says it was the most profound experience she's had
0:10:00
In the 1980s, Teri was having a problem with depression and weakness but couldn't convince her doctor that something was wrong - she was referred to a psychiatrist, but it wasn't until her heart rate went up to 150 in a resting state that they took Teri seriously and finally got treatment - but she didn't file any complaint because in those days it wasn't done and people didn't know how to file a complaint - not like today with the internet and easy access to info
0:11:00
Misogyny played a big part in how Teri was treated at that time - it is the medical culture and Teri could feel the disregard the doctor had for her - Teri felt that disregard again recently when she asked for another doctor, and the current one asked if she wanted to quit treatment, which would have been the worse thing to do
0:12:00
The sexism against women is still in the medical system - while Teri's fatigue symptom was vague, her extreme weakness and crying at the drop of a hat
0:13:00
Teri couldn't walk any distance without having to stop and lean against something to hold her up - it was really bad, but the doctor didn't think it was anything to be concerned about - turns out Teri had hyper thyroidism, which people can die from, and they did before thyroid meds - people becae totally bed ridden, hair falling out, too weak to move, no appetite and a very fast heart rate
0:14:00
Teri got 'zapped', the isotope treatment destroyed her thyroid and she's been on thyroid meds since
0:15:00
Since 1986, Teri has worked as a health educator on Reserves - she moved to Penticton and in 2014 she fell off a ladder
0:16:00
Teri had a major hip fracture and ended up in a hospital room with 2 men and 1 woman with advanced dementia - being raised a Catholic, it did not sit well with Teri to be in the same room as 2 men and was very upset about it - she complained to the Health Authority but they blew her off - she took her complaint to the review board - they told the hospital they had broken the rules and got a slap on the hand
0:17:00
Meanwhile, Teri had contacted the local press and got to know one of the reporters, Susan MacGyver, and she wrote a book - Susan had been on the faculty of medicine at the University of Toronto, U of British Columbia, Guelph U - she had also been coroner, but retired and was writing articles for the local paper - Teri read Susan's book "After the Error" - half the book is stories written by patients or their families about medical errors in hospitals
0:18:00
One of the stories was about a toddler admitted to a hospital - the mother went home to care for her other kids and returned to the hospital a few hours later - she found the IV cord wrapped around his neck and he was dead - Teri was shocked and started researching, that was in 2015
0:19:00
Teri started a federal and provincial petition about medical errors - the federal petition was very long and involved, so for the provincial petition, Teri just took 3 major points to use
0:20:00
Teri believes the petition is the court of public opinion and speaks truth to power - the provincial petition says that 1 in 18 patients will experience medical harm - few patients who experience medical harm get compensation for their suffering - and there are no mandatory rules for reporting medical error to improve safety - Teri wants mandatory reporting of medical error
0:21:00
And an administrative compensation system in place for preventable medical errors, and that the reporting system should be a 'no fault' model - currently BC has laws that prohibit doctors from testifying in medical malpractice lawsuits - there is also a law that physicians and nurses have a duty to report medical errors
0:22:00
The risk analytica report found 28,000 people die each year from medical error in Canada, the 3rd leading cause of death - so Teri put in a freedom of information request to Health Canada and they told Teri that only 154 people had died of medical error in 2017 - Teri realized lots were going unreported
0:23:00
What Teri finds very interesting is that the Canadian Medical Protective Association (CMPA) - our tax dollars are given to the CMPA as a subsidy - but the CMPA, a non profit, has over $4 billion in assets - and was given $520 million in tax dollars to hire top tier lawyers to fight patients - the lawyers give misinformation, change dates, leave info out - this has been going on since 1901
0:24:00
No other country has this system - but New Zealand in 1974 started no fault compensation for victims of medical error and only 7 countries are doing it now - this will increase openness and transparency, and learn from errors and apply to policies and medical education so they don't happen again
0:25:00
Today there are laws that prevent people from compensation - the CMPA protects doctors at all costs, whether they are guilty or not - in Teri's opinion because 28,000 people died in one year, and 1 in 18 are harmed, they have to stay in the hospital and they take up time and space - so Teri is on a mission to do something about that
0:26:00
So tax payers fund the CMPA to defend doctors who have harmed tax payers - the lawyers play dirty, holding back evidence, extending the proceedings to drive up the patient's legal costs - or extend the case in hopes the patient dies and the case disappears
0:27:00
Court cases can take 8 - 10 years and it is hell on the family because they are re-living it over and over again, they are re-traumatized - most people just want answers - stats show only 2% of patients get a result through court cases
0:28:00
They either drop out because they can't afford it - and injury lawyers won't touch a case unless they anticipate a settlement of at least $250k
0:29:00
There was a case in Newfoundland where a baby was born and the doctor failed to give it medication and now the child has cerebral palsy and can't feed itself - the lawyer defending the doctor blamed the baby - another case of a woman who was a runner and had an injury and had a minor surgery - 7 surgeries later her leg was amputated
0:30:00
A law professor has said the system is 'perverse' - in 1990 a report said 'no fault medical error' is a better system, levels the playing field to make it fair, but nothing has been followed through - becaue the CMPA is extremely powerful and have offices in every city employing top tier lawyers
0:31:00
So the lawyers and doctors are tight, belong to the same country clubs - even judges are part of the problem, refusing to consider evidence
0:32:00
People report being more harmed and traumatized by how the hospital responded to the error, then the medical error itself - called 'institutional betrayal' and there is a study at the University of Regina - that is why Teri went to the press
0:33:00
The CMPA way back in 1911 reported that they had 'struck terror' into the hearts of patients complaining - dozens and dozens of cases have been strangled - that is the strength of the CMPA
0:34:00
Doctors must join the CMPA - and the CMPA have convinced the insurance companies to eliminate medical liability in their insurance policies, so the doctors have to go to the CMPA to get liability insurance
0:35:00
The Gough Report, by Judge Gough, had insurance companies on his committee and doctors that were working in the office of the CMPA - the Report recommends that the government not look at no fault compensation system
0:36:00
Teri says all the facts are online, that's why they can't come after her - she half expects to get a 'cease and desist' letter - for the BC petition, 2 Members of Legislative Assembly (MLAs) presented it to the legislature and Teri is hoping for 3 more
0:37:00
The BC government paid the fossil fuel industry subsidies worth $830 million last year - the fossil fuels companies owe the BC govt $3.1 billion in royalties, but they've never paid - and those royalties are marked for health care and education
0:38:00
Fossil fuels contaminte air and water and make us sick - CMPA defends incompetent doctors, harming more people, who need more hospital care - its all connected
0:39:00
Teri say a documentary about health care workers high on drugs while on duty, and that may be contributing to medical error rates - Teri thinks they are self-medicating because the stress of the job is so bad, including bullying - the top of the system has to fix it, but they are only putting on band aids
0:40:00
Scott says he doesn't understand why health care workers are working such crazy long shifts - we wouldn't let people making widgets in a factory work long hours because they'd be making so many mistakes - Teri says some of the workers want those long shifts so they can spend more time with their family
0:41:00
Teri says back in the day, workers were told what and how long to work - she says today there is too much compromise between management and workers - Teri thinks management must limit shifts to 8 hours - overwork is where a lot of the medical errors come from, and short tempers lead to medical abuse - Teri says today health care workers get too much theory and not enough practice
0:42:00
When they start working they are scared and don't know what they are doing because they only have theory - so the education has to be looked at and improved on - and workers are not clear on their duties any more
0:43:00
Teri says patients are striking out at health care workers who are over compensating for the stress - one over compensating defense mecahnism is arrogance and that results in a condescending attitude
0:44:00
Teri says the system needs to be revamped from the top and bottom - they need to listen to patients - Teri found that every patient organization committee she's been on is over loaded with health care practitioners who didn't really regard the patients experience at all
0:45:00
Teri says she felt like a token - there was an independent BC patient organization, but when the funding stopped, the govt took the patients and put them into a govt program, so they were policing themselves - prior to that it was the patients voices and needs that were listened to, and its not that way now
0:46:00
Re the petitions, Scott says mandatory reporting of medical errors should have lots of support, and a no-fault model sounds like a good thing - Teri says it must be adopted across the country because it it is just one province, the politicians fear the doctors will leave and go to another province
0:47:00
Teri is hoping the BC govt will champion this approach - Teri thought it was great that Patients for Patient Safety Canada was holding round table meetings with the provincial Ministers of Health - but there has to be support across the country to remove the power of the CMPA
0:48:00
The CMPA says it is the provincial medical associations that set bargain with the provincial Health Ministers, so not within CMPAs power - Teri gets angry when the provinces say they need more health care money, she says they don't need more money, they need to spend it wiser
0:49:00
Teri is looking for people to share their stories around medical error - Teri can be reached at safept.care@shaw.ca
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<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teri McGrath, nurse and health educator, is very familiar with the paternalistic and misogynistic medical culture - in fact, her own physical symptoms were repeatedly dismissed by doctors until they discovered Teri was hyperthyroid. Turns out Teri’s symptoms weren’t ‘all in her pretty little head’, but actually stemming from an overactive thyroid that would have eventually killed her.</p>
<p>Today, Teri is taking on the behemoth medical system that routinely hides or denies medical harm and death, and the Goliath legal-medico system that effectively makes seeking compensation by medical error victims a traumatizing experience, financially draining, and an exercise in futility.</p>
<p>Canadian doctors have finagled themselves a pretty sweet deal: they have manipulated the political, legal and insurance systems so that when medical malpractice occurs, tax payers pay for the doctors high price lawyers. That is millions and millions of dollars each year coming out of tax payers pockets.  The medical error victims - many of them too injured to work - are left to their own devices with no financial support for legal costs.</p>
<p>And what do these high price lawyers do? They fight the injured victims every step of the way, making it as hard - and expensive - and as long - as possible. The lawyers tactic is to bankrupt the injured victim before the case goes to court, or delay the court case in hopes the patient dies in the interim, thereby immediately ending the lawsuit.</p>
<p>No wonder fewer and fewer people trust their doctor. Or their politicians. They have set up the system so that medically injured patients are also emotionally traumatized and financially bankrupt. It is not by accident -- it is intentional and tactical to inflict more harm.</p>
<p>So Teri is on a mission to do 2 things:  Make reporting of medical errors mandatory -- and increase access to compensation for medical error victims.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:06:00
Teri grew up in a small town called Espanola in Ontario, Canada -- Teri went to boarding school and then to studying nursing at college -- the boarding school was run by the nuns and Teri had an idealistic view of the world
0:07:00
When Teri was a child, her father would gut a turkey and tell her about the internal body parts and Teri set a goal of becoming an operating room nurse - but with the idealistic rhetoric in boarding school, her goal was to help people and she's still helping people to this day - Teri ended up teaching nursing in Saskathewan and then found out about 'outpost nursing'
0:08:00
Teri started outpost nursing on a small Aboriginal Reserve north of Saskatoon - then moved to a small town to work as a health educator - Teri saw how poor healthcare was for Aboriginal women and decided to do something about it - she went to a conference in Pheonix called 'Wellness and Women' and Teri wanted to do a similar conference in Canada and it took off - she credits that conference to a number of woman who are now Chiefs on their Reserves and educated about health
0:09:00
The conference covered a wide range of health issues, and Teri says it was the most profound experience she's had
0:10:00
In the 1980s, Teri was having a problem with depression and weakness but couldn't convince her doctor that something was wrong - she was referred to a psychiatrist, but it wasn't until her heart rate went up to 150 in a resting state that they took Teri seriously and finally got treatment - but she didn't file any complaint because in those days it wasn't done and people didn't know how to file a complaint - not like today with the internet and easy access to info
0:11:00
Misogyny played a big part in how Teri was treated at that time - it is the medical culture and Teri could feel the disregard the doctor had for her - Teri felt that disregard again recently when she asked for another doctor, and the current one asked if she wanted to quit treatment, which would have been the worse thing to do
0:12:00
The sexism against women is still in the medical system - while Teri's fatigue symptom was vague, her extreme weakness and crying at the drop of a hat
0:13:00
Teri couldn't walk any distance without having to stop and lean against something to hold her up - it was really bad, but the doctor didn't think it was anything to be concerned about - turns out Teri had hyper thyroidism, which people can die from, and they did before thyroid meds - people becae totally bed ridden, hair falling out, too weak to move, no appetite and a very fast heart rate
0:14:00
Teri got 'zapped', the isotope treatment destroyed her thyroid and she's been on thyroid meds since
0:15:00
Since 1986, Teri has worked as a health educator on Reserves - she moved to Penticton and in 2014 she fell off a ladder
0:16:00
Teri had a major hip fracture and ended up in a hospital room with 2 men and 1 woman with advanced dementia - being raised a Catholic, it did not sit well with Teri to be in the same room as 2 men and was very upset about it - she complained to the Health Authority but they blew her off - she took her complaint to the review board - they told the hospital they had broken the rules and got a slap on the hand
0:17:00
Meanwhile, Teri had contacted the local press and got to know one of the reporters, Susan MacGyver, and she wrote a book - Susan had been on the faculty of medicine at the University of Toronto, U of British Columbia, Guelph U - she had also been coroner, but retired and was writing articles for the local paper - Teri read Susan's book "After the Error" - half the book is stories written by patients or their families about medical errors in hospitals
0:18:00
One of the stories was about a toddler admitted to a hospital - the mother went home to care for her other kids and returned to the hospital a few hours later - she found the IV cord wrapped around his neck and he was dead - Teri was shocked and started researching, that was in 2015
0:19:00
Teri started a federal and provincial petition about medical errors - the federal petition was very long and involved, so for the provincial petition, Teri just took 3 major points to use
0:20:00
Teri believes the petition is the court of public opinion and speaks truth to power - the provincial petition says that 1 in 18 patients will experience medical harm - few patients who experience medical harm get compensation for their suffering - and there are no mandatory rules for reporting medical error to improve safety - Teri wants mandatory reporting of medical error
0:21:00
And an administrative compensation system in place for preventable medical errors, and that the reporting system should be a 'no fault' model - currently BC has laws that prohibit doctors from testifying in medical malpractice lawsuits - there is also a law that physicians and nurses have a duty to report medical errors
0:22:00
The risk analytica report found 28,000 people die each year from medical error in Canada, the 3rd leading cause of death - so Teri put in a freedom of information request to Health Canada and they told Teri that only 154 people had died of medical error in 2017 - Teri realized lots were going unreported
0:23:00
What Teri finds very interesting is that the Canadian Medical Protective Association (CMPA) - our tax dollars are given to the CMPA as a subsidy - but the CMPA, a non profit, has over $4 billion in assets - and was given $520 million in tax dollars to hire top tier lawyers to fight patients - the lawyers give misinformation, change dates, leave info out - this has been going on since 1901
0:24:00
No other country has this system - but New Zealand in 1974 started no fault compensation for victims of medical error and only 7 countries are doing it now - this will increase openness and transparency, and learn from errors and apply to policies and medical education so they don't happen again
0:25:00
Today there are laws that prevent people from compensation - the CMPA protects doctors at all costs, whether they are guilty or not - in Teri's opinion because 28,000 people died in one year, and 1 in 18 are harmed, they have to stay in the hospital and they take up time and space - so Teri is on a mission to do something about that
0:26:00
So tax payers fund the CMPA to defend doctors who have harmed tax payers - the lawyers play dirty, holding back evidence, extending the proceedings to drive up the patient's legal costs - or extend the case in hopes the patient dies and the case disappears
0:27:00
Court cases can take 8 - 10 years and it is hell on the family because they are re-living it over and over again, they are re-traumatized - most people just want answers - stats show only 2% of patients get a result through court cases
0:28:00
They either drop out because they can't afford it - and injury lawyers won't touch a case unless they anticipate a settlement of at least $250k
0:29:00
There was a case in Newfoundland where a baby was born and the doctor failed to give it medication and now the child has cerebral palsy and can't feed itself - the lawyer defending the doctor blamed the baby - another case of a woman who was a runner and had an injury and had a minor surgery - 7 surgeries later her leg was amputated
0:30:00
A law professor has said the system is 'perverse' - in 1990 a report said 'no fault medical error' is a better system, levels the playing field to make it fair, but nothing has been followed through - becaue the CMPA is extremely powerful and have offices in every city employing top tier lawyers
0:31:00
So the lawyers and doctors are tight, belong to the same country clubs - even judges are part of the problem, refusing to consider evidence
0:32:00
People report being more harmed and traumatized by how the hospital responded to the error, then the medical error itself - called 'institutional betrayal' and there is a study at the University of Regina - that is why Teri went to the press
0:33:00
The CMPA way back in 1911 reported that they had 'struck terror' into the hearts of patients complaining - dozens and dozens of cases have been strangled - that is the strength of the CMPA
0:34:00
Doctors must join the CMPA - and the CMPA have convinced the insurance companies to eliminate medical liability in their insurance policies, so the doctors have to go to the CMPA to get liability insurance
0:35:00
The Gough Report, by Judge Gough, had insurance companies on his committee and doctors that were working in the office of the CMPA - the Report recommends that the government not look at no fault compensation system
0:36:00
Teri says all the facts are online, that's why they can't come after her - she half expects to get a 'cease and desist' letter - for the BC petition, 2 Members of Legislative Assembly (MLAs) presented it to the legislature and Teri is hoping for 3 more
0:37:00
The BC government paid the fossil fuel industry subsidies worth $830 million last year - the fossil fuels companies owe the BC govt $3.1 billion in royalties, but they've never paid - and those royalties are marked for health care and education
0:38:00
Fossil fuels contaminte air and water and make us sick - CMPA defends incompetent doctors, harming more people, who need more hospital care - its all connected
0:39:00
Teri say a documentary about health care workers high on drugs while on duty, and that may be contributing to medical error rates - Teri thinks they are self-medicating because the stress of the job is so bad, including bullying - the top of the system has to fix it, but they are only putting on band aids
0:40:00
Scott says he doesn't understand why health care workers are working such crazy long shifts - we wouldn't let people making widgets in a factory work long hours because they'd be making so many mistakes - Teri says some of the workers want those long shifts so they can spend more time with their family
0:41:00
Teri says back in the day, workers were told what and how long to work - she says today there is too much compromise between management and workers - Teri thinks management must limit shifts to 8 hours - overwork is where a lot of the medical errors come from, and short tempers lead to medical abuse - Teri says today health care workers get too much theory and not enough practice
0:42:00
When they start working they are scared and don't know what they are doing because they only have theory - so the education has to be looked at and improved on - and workers are not clear on their duties any more
0:43:00
Teri says patients are striking out at health care workers who are over compensating for the stress - one over compensating defense mecahnism is arrogance and that results in a condescending attitude
0:44:00
Teri says the system needs to be revamped from the top and bottom - they need to listen to patients - Teri found that every patient organization committee she's been on is over loaded with health care practitioners who didn't really regard the patients experience at all
0:45:00
Teri says she felt like a token - there was an independent BC patient organization, but when the funding stopped, the govt took the patients and put them into a govt program, so they were policing themselves - prior to that it was the patients voices and needs that were listened to, and its not that way now
0:46:00
Re the petitions, Scott says mandatory reporting of medical errors should have lots of support, and a no-fault model sounds like a good thing - Teri says it must be adopted across the country because it it is just one province, the politicians fear the doctors will leave and go to another province
0:47:00
Teri is hoping the BC govt will champion this approach - Teri thought it was great that Patients for Patient Safety Canada was holding round table meetings with the provincial Ministers of Health - but there has to be support across the country to remove the power of the CMPA
0:48:00
The CMPA says it is the provincial medical associations that set bargain with the provincial Health Ministers, so not within CMPAs power - Teri gets angry when the provinces say they need more health care money, she says they don't need more money, they need to spend it wiser
0:49:00
Teri is looking for people to share their stories around medical error - Teri can be reached at safept.care@shaw.ca
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<p> </p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Teri McGrath, nurse and health educator, is very familiar with the paternalistic and misogynistic medical culture - in fact, her own physical symptoms were repeatedly dismissed by doctors until they discovered Teri was hyperthyroid. Turns out Teri’s symptoms weren’t ‘all in her pretty little head’, but actually stemming from an overactive thyroid that would have eventually killed her.
Today, Teri is taking on the behemoth medical system that routinely hides or denies medical harm and death, and the Goliath legal-medico system that effectively makes seeking compensation by medical error victims a traumatizing experience, financially draining, and an exercise in futility.
Canadian doctors have finagled themselves a pretty sweet deal: they have manipulated the political, legal and insurance systems so that when medical malpractice occurs, tax payers pay for the doctors high price lawyers. That is millions and millions of dollars each year coming out of tax payers pockets.  The medical error victims - many of them too injured to work - are left to their own devices with no financial support for legal costs.
And what do these high price lawyers do? They fight the injured victims every step of the way, making it as hard - and expensive - and as long - as possible. The lawyers tactic is to bankrupt the injured victim before the case goes to court, or delay the court case in hopes the patient dies in the interim, thereby immediately ending the lawsuit.
No wonder fewer and fewer people trust their doctor. Or their politicians. They have set up the system so that medically injured patients are also emotionally traumatized and financially bankrupt. It is not by accident -- it is intentional and tactical to inflict more harm.
So Teri is on a mission to do 2 things:  Make reporting of medical errors mandatory -- and increase access to compensation for medical error victims.
SHOW NOTES:
0:06:00
Teri grew up in a small town called Espanola in Ontario, Canada -- Teri went to boarding school and then to studying nursing at college -- the boarding school was run by the nuns and Teri had an idealistic view of the world
0:07:00
When Teri was a child, her father would gut a turkey and tell her about the internal body parts and Teri set a goal of becoming an operating room nurse - but with the idealistic rhetoric in boarding school, her goal was to help people and she's still helping people to this day - Teri ended up teaching nursing in Saskathewan and then found out about 'outpost nursing'
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Teri started outpost nursing on a small Aboriginal Reserve north of Saskatoon - then moved to a small town to work as a health educator - Teri saw how poor healthcare was for Aboriginal women and decided to do something about it - she went to a conference in Pheonix called 'Wellness and Women' and Teri wanted to do a similar conference in Canada and it took off - she credits that conference to a number of woman who are now Chiefs on their Reserves and educated about health
0:09:00
The conference covered a wide range of health issues, and Teri says it was the most profound experience she's had
0:10:00
In the 1980s, Teri was having a problem with depression and weakness but couldn't convince her doctor that something was wrong - she was referred to a psychiatrist, but it wasn't until her heart rate went up to 150 in a resting state that they took Teri seriously and finally got treatment - but she didn't file any complaint because in those days it wasn't done and people didn't know how to file a complaint - not like today with the internet and easy access to info
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Misogyny played a big part in how Teri was treated at that time - it is the medical culture and Teri could feel the disregard the doctor had for her - Teri felt that disregard again recently when she asked for another doctor, and the current one asked if she wanted to quit treatment, which would have been the worse thing to do
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        <title>Joan McParland interview: “I have been conned” - When sick patients are sold psychological snake oil</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>When people are very sick and suffering, especially for months and years, they are desperate to try almost anything to have even a little improvement in their quality of life. </p>
<p>This makes patients susceptible to shysters preying on desperation. Like the snake oil salesman of yesteryear, today we have their modern incantations and must contend with their psychological snake oil.</p>
<p>For a short while, Joan McParland metaphorically drank the snake oil laced Kool-Aid.</p>
<p>Joan had been very sick and bedbound for years with the neuroimmune illness myalgic encephalomyelitis - which literally means ‘inflammation of the brain and spinal cord’ - Joan was desperate to try anything so she could be well enough to the healthy Mom she used to be for her son, and return to the work she loved.</p>
<p>Joan paid big money to participate in the ‘lightning process’, a program that professes to treat all sorts of chronic symptoms in just 3 days. Evidently this is not some benign distraction, it has been reported that a Norwegian teen tried to committ suicide after failling to improve from the lightning process.</p>
<p>In the 3 day program, Joan and the other participants were told not to share anything about how the lightning process works with anyone else, or talk to each other about the lightning process, and to only talk about themselves in positive, healthy language and to tell people they were cured --- some people even had to sign contracts with those constraints.</p>
<p>But Joan is not one to be complicit in promoting self-blaming brainwashing and is telling the truth about what secretly happens in the costly lightning process. </p>
<p>It works basically like this: you stand on a piece of paper that has ‘stop - I have a choice’ written on it. Then you say that aloud.</p>
<p>Two arrows point to your choices.</p>
<p>One arrow points to a piece of paper that has ‘the pit’ written on it. This represents your symptoms and illness.</p>
<p>The other arrow points to a piece of paper that has ‘the life I want to lead’ written on it.</p>
<p>You choose which piece of paper you want to stand on and say that aloud.</p>
<p>That’s it -- you do that repeatedly and it will cure you.</p>
<p>Doing a little bit of googling and it turns out both the British Advertising Standards and the Nordic Consumer Ombudsman have ruled against the lighting process for making false claims on its website. </p>
<p>It has been described as "quackery backed by pseudoscientific theory", and as a costly pyramid scheme since people who train in the process frequently go on to become paid practitioners themselves.</p>
<p>What makes it really dangerous, is that dubious researchers have subjected children to the snake oil. It is unclear how the research ethics board allowed children to become guinea pigs, since the program was described as ‘"like CBT, but with bullying”.</p>
<p>When Joan continued to be very sick, she realized she’d been conned. She told family and friends she was cured, but in reality she was just as sick and disabled as before. Joan felt used and abused -- and also ashamed and embarrassed for being so gullible to pay large sums for something so obviously rooted in magical thinking and profit making off the sick. </p>
<p>But Joan’s shame quickly turned to anger when she thought about how many other sick and disabled people were being scammed out of their money, and made to feel it was their fault if they weren’t cured -- and so Joan has set out to tell the truth so other patients don’t fall for the same scam.</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:08:00
Joan was an only child and born in Northern Ireland, near the border - a happy childhood with no trauma -- hated school initially but loved it by the time she finished - went to college, took a year off, and returned to college to study something she really wanted to: cookery and commercial course
0:09:00
The 2 courses compelemented one another and Joan got a job organizing school meals, so she had some hands on work creating meals, and admin work organizing supplies, making menus, working out nurtitional values, etc - so brain work and book work and hands on, which she loved as well - it was idyllic and only 10 minute drive from home - her son attended the same school - they got all of July and August off each year
0:10:00
Joan married her first love, her love at first sight, when she was 20 - they camped, caravan, and biking - Joan often had a car full of kids from school because they would end up at her house - Joan was asked by a woman to look after her son on a long term basis, so the 2 boys became like brothers - it was a good life, really good - and then 'boom'
0:11:00
Boom' happened October 13th 1999, she got sick overnight - looking back now that Joan knows what ME is (myalgic encephalomyelitis), there was a time in France when her brain 'blipped' and she thought she was going to faint and scared the life of her for a couple of hours, 'what the hell was that' - that was summer 1999, and about 6 weeks later, 'boom'
0:12:00
Working with kids in school she would pick up a tummy bug / gastroenteritis - on waking October 13th, Joan thought she had a tummy bug or food poisoining - she tried to get out of bed but couldn't walk, the room was spinning, her brain was spinning inside her head, the nausea was horrific, and Joan had to crawl on her hands and knees to the bathroom - desperately wanting to vomit and not able to
0:13:00
She called head office to say she was sick and would be off work one or two days at the most - 2 days passed, a week passed, 2 weeks passed and Joan realized something was not right - Joan's Mom was staying with her to take care of her - her GP made a house call and diagnosed Joan with viral labyrinthitis (inner ear infection) as causing the dizziness and nausea
0:14:00
Joan was so ill, she couldn't explain her symptoms - she didn't realize she was sicker when the curtains were open or when her mother was vacuuming - in the same way a year later, when she couldn't associate pushing herself physically that was making her sicker
0:15:00
For 11 months, Joan was carried to the bathroom, looked like she was going to die, felt like she was going to die, lost about 2 stones (28 pouinds) in weight because she couldn't eat - her husband carried her to the car and drove her to the doctor and he injected Joan with cyclizine (nausea medication) - she was injected for months and months - one day another doctor said Joan didn't have to come in for injections, she could get it in tablet form - Joan wish she'd known that because it was crucifying her to travel to and fro the doctors - one day Joan felt a wee bit better
0:16:00
Joan thought she was recovering - she got a wee bit better over the next few months, but the dizziness and nausea never left, but her energy came back a bit - Joan was afraid of losing her job so went back to work about a year after she got sick - but Joan wasn't really well enough to work
0:17:00
Joan would last until about 1pm and then she'd have to come home and go to bed until the next morning - she did this for months, never associating that pushing herself to work was making her sick, that's a concept she'd never heard of - so Joan was in a cycle of 'work and collapse' - she ended up back in bed for a few months and tried to work again - this went on for about 2 years - a friend at work suggested Joan try yoga, Joan said that was a good idea, she needed more exercise (laughter)
0:18:00
Joan went to the yoga class and can remember thinking 'I can hardly lift my leg, what's wrong?' --The next morning she went to work and 10 minutes after getting to work she fell to the floor, and spent the next 7 years in bed - the 2 years of pushing and crashing cost Joan the next 7 years, a very steep price
0:19:00
Joan can remember her doctor standing at the foot of her bed saying 'I hope and pray we're not dealing with severe ME' - but he never said anything about the importance of rest - she said to him one day she couldn't get out of bed, but she wanted to, she wanted to spend time with her son Stephen, she wanted to work - he casually said 'stay in bed if that helps' - Joan says that if the doctor had of said 'Joan, if you don't rest now, this could be the rest of your life' - but he didn't know to say that, so she doesn't blame him, he was very good to Joan - he started sending Joan to specialists, like cardiology, gastroenterology, etc
0:20:00
The specialists were all coming up with different diagnosis, like menopause - Joan says its the strangest menopause she ever heard that would put you in bed for a year - Joan's husband said we're running out of options with the National Health Service (NHS), maybe they should try a private clinic and pay out of pocket - one gastroenterologist said to Joan's husband, 'take that woman to a psychiatrist' - that was the only day in 20 years that he doubted Joan, he said 'Joan, there is something I have to tell you, these doctors can't all be wrong' - that nearly broke Joan's heart, it felt like betrayal
0:21:00
Fortunately her husband knew her well enough to believe her, and now he backs ME advocacy as much as Joan does - right now he's building some stuff for Joan's ME presentation next week - she doens't know where she'd be without him, she realizes she's very lucky - their son was 12 years old when Joan got sick, so he's been to all the ME conferences Joan has attended - without her family she could not accomplish her ME advocacy, because living with ME is horrific
0:22:00
At one point Joan doubted her own sanity because all these doctors were telling her there was nothing wrong with her - so she went to a psychiatrist and he told her he would teach her to relax and not think about her bodily sensations so much (laughs), so I didn't go back to him either - Joan says 'to be honest, it was the Lightning Process that gave her mojo, she came out of that not to be empowered to be well, but to be empowered to do something about the ME medical situation'
0:23:00
In about 2007 Joan tried the Lightning Process (LP) - Joan had a relative who is a mental health nurse, a lovely lade, and she sent Joan a newspaper clipping of this wonderful new treatment for ME
0:24:00
The article said that LP had helped people get out of wheelchairs - there was an organization called the Northern Ireland ME Association and they did a newsletter and including an article about a lady bouncing out of her wheelchair in 3 days - at first Joan scoffed, but then she thought 'what if it helps?' - she was so sick couldn't not try it
0:25:00
The LP person was to phone patients to determine if they were suitable for the program, so what that means is 'are you stupid?' (laughs) - he would talk about the ME symptoms like a person with ME, he talked about the dizziness and nausea and exhaustion, etc - Joan really beleived he knew what he was talking about - he (the LP person) then started asking Joan questions like 'how much do you want to be well, how much do you want it, are you willing to invest 3 days of your life now to get well' - questions you are never going to say 'no' to
0:26:00
He was obviously an insurance salesman at some stage in his life because he could have sold anything to you - Joan says she's not stupid, but she was desperate, and he was preying on that - he said Joan needed to make it a life changing holiday - she went and stayed in a hotel about an hour and half from her home - Joan's mom came with her because Joan was too sick to be on her own
0:27:00
So they stayed in the hotel for 3 nights and had to take a taxi about 5 minutes away to a house he rented for the LP - it was supposed to be for 3 days, but it was actually only from 10am to 2pm on 2 days, and the 3rd it finished at noon, so 10 hours in total - for lunch they were served a cup of tea and a biscuit....for 880 pounds (about $1150 USD)
0:28:00
They were told not to talk to each other about what happened in the room, don't discuss it - Joan got to know 1 of the other 3 people, Paula, and they became friends over time, and great friends today
0:29:00
About a year later Paula told Joan it was her 3rd time doing LP and her husband paid the LP person to come over for personal 'training' at 1,000 - 2,000 pounds, they were so desperate - it took Paula a year to tell Joan because she was so ashamed she'd been conned repeatedly - the LP person told Joan to only ever talk in positive terms and words
0:30:00
So Joan and Paula would have these stupid conversations only in positive terms, partially out of fear, partially because they had paid so much money - but as time went on, their health went down, and they had to admit to each other that LP is a load of crap, just mind games - it mostly just LP person talking
0:31:00
He would show things like optical illusions and it all made sense the way he said it - on the 2nd day he showed them how to do LP - that's when they started to learn affirmations - he instructed them to think of a day in the past they were happy, and bring that emotion into the present - it was like 'neuro linguistic programming' - its just brainwashing
0:32:00
Joan would go back to her hotel pumped with adrenaline - she had pieces of paper she was to put on the floor and practice LP all night - her Mom watched her standing on paper circles talking like she was cured - Joan was instructed to only speak in positive terms, so she called her husband and told him she was cured (laughs) - one of the pieces of paper says 'stop - you have a choice' - another piece of paper said 'the pit of ME' and another said 'life I want to lead', and Joan was instructed to choose one to stand on
0:33:00
Of course, people choose 'life' and stand on that piece of paper - you become your own coach - and you have to do all the movements (Joan thrusts her fist in the air in victory) and say 'I choose the life I love' (laughs)
0:34:00
When your experience symptoms, Joan was instructed to put her hands in front of her and say 'stop' - nobody was going to choose 'the pit of ME'
0:35:00
It would be ridiculous to say to someone they could be cured of cancer by standing on a piece of paper and shouting 'stop' - but because medicine has erroneously said ME is psychological, they can get away with it - they are playing on the fact there is no biomarker for ME yet, so when you can't prove a disease, it can be called anything
0:36:00
Of the 3 people who did LP with Joan, none of them recovered - one of them had ME, another depression, and another fibromyalgia - Joan practiced the self-affirmations daily and almost became evangelical about it
0:37:00
If any one had of said to Joan at the time that LP was a load of crap, she would have argued that it wasn't - the LP person phoned and asked the patients if they would go on tv or radio to tell about their experience - if he had of phoned Joan a week earlier then he did, she would've gone on tv to say how great LP was, he was like the Messiah to Joan - Joan was so desperate to better after years of being sick, she believed it
0:38:00
Joan stopped believing when her ME symtpoms started to creep back - in her head she was screaming 'no' - she did the LP and was torturing herself - but a small voice in her head kept saying LP was rubbish - so her mind was bouncing between reality and LP
0:39:00
Eventually Joan ended up bed bound again - and feeling psycholigically disturbed about how foolish she'd been, having been taken in, and telling everybody she was cured - Joan felt stupid and used and abused
0:40:00
Joan felt ashamed for being so stupid - so psychologically Joan ended up in a worse place
0:41:00
When Joan's friend finally disclosed that she was still sick, Joan was shocked and at the same time understood her desperation - since none of the 4 people recovered, Joan knew she would never do LP again and the reality "I've just been conned" started to set in - Joan only has about 20-30% of ability compared to her full health - if she's not horizontal most of the day, nothing gets accomplished - it was psychologically tough because LP felt like the last hope
0:42:00
Joan had lots of tears, heartbreak, disappointment - it was a horrible experience - Joan didn't go into depression, it was great sadness - then that sadness turned to anger, 'I've got to do something about this' - people can not go on abusing and make fools of patients - a match was lit inside Joan to do something, she didn't know yet what it was
0:43:00
The support of her husband and wanting to support her son motivated Joan - she doesn't know how people with severe ME survice on their own without some family support
0:44:00
The one thing that kept Joan sane during the years she was very sick, was a tree outside her window and she watched the seasons change - there were days when she felt like she was going to die, couldn't get out of bed, and sometimes she just counted the leaves on the tree because she couldn't read or watch tv - anything to take her mind off the suffering because she couldn't physically leave the bed - everytime her son walked down the hall, Joan thought 'better me, than him'.
0:45:00
Joan couldn't make sense of the written word due to cognitive impairment - it was like a switch in here brain was turned off - Joan can remember looking at a 4 week menu plan for work and not being able to come up with one meal plan
0:46:00
Joan wondered what was happening to her brain, she couldn't think straight or get her thoughts into order - affecting her concentration, memory, ability to focus - when she could tolerate tv, she couldn't follow the story line
0:47:00
Joan would try to fake that she knew what the tv show was about - if the radio is on and her husband says something to her, it all gets jumbled - her brain can't filter out what she doesn't want to focus on - when Joan is feeling 'well' she can go out for a meal as along as there is no background music and only 1 or 2 other people there
0:48:00
If people talk across each other, Joan is cognitively impacted and she doesn't have a clue what people are talking about - Joan has used her anger toward ME advocacy - Joan didn't even have a laptop until about 10 years into being sick, she had no contact with the outside world - she had to self learn the laptop when she got it
0:49:00
Joan and her husband where scheming how to doing something about ME - they heard about a ME support group about 20 miles away...that was a whole different experience - Joan could barely sit up at that point but the group was talking about the activities they were planning for the weekend - Joan thought she must've been in the wrong support group because she can't do any of those things - she was despondent
0:50:00
But Joan and her husband decided to start their own ME support group - Joan contacted the local newspaper and they did an article about Joan and ME - Joan booked a room at a hotel for the meeting - Joan didn't know what to expect, or if any one would actually show up...then they started coming and she thought they'd never stop coming through the door - Joan wasn't a public speaker or know what direction the group would go, they hadn't even paid for the room, but everyone put in 1 pound to pay for it
0:51:00
So Joan just spoke from her heart, about what had happened to her - she said she needed help and they formed a committee that night - and the next thing she knows they're organizing conferences and bringing over researchers from Harvard, Stanford - it was like the stars lined up and everything fell into place with very little effort, but sometimes with a massive effort - sometimes she felt like running away from it but then an opportunity awareness and educatin would come and she could not let it pass - and the group grew and grew
0:52:00
Joan says the only thing she did was to tell the truth, she's not a doctor or scientist, she's just one person who got ME and is not going to leave this world quietly - doors started opening
0:53:00
This year in particular, they've been asked to do a presentation in the GPs surgery (clinic), that is massive - last week Joan was asked to talk to the European Health Connection - Joan realizes instead of her having to ask people to learn and hear about ME, now they're coming to Joan's group
0:54:00
LP didn't take off too much in Northern Ireland, or people are too ashamed to admit it, which Joan can understand - there is zero ME research in North Ireland - advocates had been trying for years to get services but hadn't got any where
0:55:00
One day Joan got a call from Horace Reid (SPELLING??) from the Northern Ireland ME Association to tell her she was doing a great job and keep up the good work, and that was a real boost for Joan - Horace ended up joining Joan's group's committee and has been a great friend, advisor, and advocate
0:56:00
Soon Joan and other advocates met with Health and Social Care Board - Joan was frightened and just listened - they kept meeting with them but nothing happened - they then asked the Patient Client Council to help them
0:57:00
They are supposed to represent the patient voice - they started to come to the meetings with the Board and hold them more accountable - that's when people started to listen and things started to change, that was in 2012 -- in 2018, the Chief Medical Officer for Northern Ireland opened the conference and it was announced a new ME Clinical Lead for NI was being interviewed for the new ME clinic - but the clinic hasn't opened yet, it it was left to patients it would've been started by now
0:58:00
They are just waiting for the press release to announce the new clinic - it is exciting but the down side is only it is only a part time position and no supports for kids, so a long way to go yet - doctors are now referring them to the support group because there is no other place to refer, and they will get the best support from other patients
0:59:00
Joan has to spend a lot of time horizontal, drapes and windows closed, phone off, don't any body think of coming into the room, so not just lay down, but complete shut down - Joan has tried antivirals and antiretrovirals (ARVs) - another friend started ARVs first and she got good results, not cured, but she was severe and now she's at moderate / severe
1:00:00
So it improved her health one level and she's holding that - ARVs are expensive, maybe about 300 pounds a month - Joan tried ARVs but started to feel worse
1:01:00
Joan persisted taking them until one day she was having trouble breathing so stopped them, but tried them again about 6 months later but had the same reaction - but that didn't bother her as much as the LP because it didn't mess with her head
1:02:00
Joan's illness impacted her son - he was just moving up from primary to high school when Joan got sick and it affected him
1:03:00
Knowing how ME was impacting her son, motivated Joan to fight on - it made Joan very angry she couldn't protect her child from pain, that's a big reason she got into advocacy - no kid needs to see there mother in bed like a vegetable
1:04:00
Joan doesn't know how parents with kids with ME cope - if Joan's son had ME, she would've murdered somebody in health service by now
1:05:00
Joan's support group has parents of children with ME, but they have to keep a low profile for fear of having health services accuse them of 'fabricating illness' in their child - they have to play along with mental health services, not cause a fuss, don't fight too hard - Joan hopes once the adult ME services are running, those parents will have an easier time - but they are scared
1:06:00
It happens more often in England, but a few parents in Northern Ireland have come close to having their sick child taken away from them
1:07:00
Joan doesn't want to take away people's hope, but she also doesn't want them to go through what she did with LP, the false hope - Joan says to put yourself in the place of someone who had cancer and ask yourself, 'would I do LP for cancer?' - ME is a physical disease and can't be cured with psychological tricks
1:08:00
You've got a physical disease that nobody can see on an x-ray or a blood test, but it is there and it cannot be talked out of your body
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<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
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<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
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<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When people are very sick and suffering, especially for months and years, they are desperate to try almost anything to have even a little improvement in their quality of life. </p>
<p>This makes patients susceptible to shysters preying on desperation. Like the snake oil salesman of yesteryear, today we have their modern incantations and must contend with their psychological snake oil.</p>
<p>For a short while, Joan McParland metaphorically drank the snake oil laced Kool-Aid.</p>
<p>Joan had been very sick and bedbound for years with the neuroimmune illness myalgic encephalomyelitis - which literally means ‘inflammation of the brain and spinal cord’ - Joan was desperate to try anything so she could be well enough to the healthy Mom she used to be for her son, and return to the work she loved.</p>
<p>Joan paid big money to participate in the ‘lightning process’, a program that professes to treat all sorts of chronic symptoms in just 3 days. Evidently this is not some benign distraction, it has been reported that a Norwegian teen tried to committ suicide after failling to improve from the lightning process.</p>
<p>In the 3 day program, Joan and the other participants were told not to share anything about how the lightning process works with anyone else, or talk to each other about the lightning process, and to only talk about themselves in positive, healthy language and to tell people they were cured --- some people even had to sign contracts with those constraints.</p>
<p>But Joan is not one to be complicit in promoting self-blaming brainwashing and is telling the truth about what secretly happens in the costly lightning process. </p>
<p>It works basically like this: you stand on a piece of paper that has ‘<em>stop - I have a choice</em>’ written on it. Then you say that aloud.</p>
<p>Two arrows point to your choices.</p>
<p>One arrow points to a piece of paper that has ‘<em>the pit</em>’ written on it. This represents your symptoms and illness.</p>
<p>The other arrow points to a piece of paper that has ‘<em>the life I want to lead</em>’ written on it.</p>
<p>You choose which piece of paper you want to stand on and say that aloud.</p>
<p>That’s it -- you do that repeatedly and it will cure you.</p>
<p>Doing a little bit of googling and it turns out both the British Advertising Standards and the Nordic Consumer Ombudsman have ruled against the lighting process for making false claims on its website. </p>
<p>It has been described as "quackery backed by pseudoscientific theory", and as a costly pyramid scheme since people who train in the process frequently go on to become paid practitioners themselves.</p>
<p>What makes it really dangerous, is that dubious researchers have subjected children to the snake oil. It is unclear how the research ethics board allowed children to become guinea pigs, since the program was described as ‘"like CBT, but with bullying”.</p>
<p>When Joan continued to be very sick, she realized she’d been conned. She told family and friends she was cured, but in reality she was just as sick and disabled as before. Joan felt used and abused -- and also ashamed and embarrassed for being so gullible to pay large sums for something so obviously rooted in magical thinking and profit making off the sick. </p>
<p>But Joan’s shame quickly turned to anger when she thought about how many other sick and disabled people were being scammed out of their money, and made to feel it was their fault if they weren’t cured -- and so Joan has set out to tell the truth so other patients don’t fall for the same scam.</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
0:08:00
Joan was an only child and born in Northern Ireland, near the border - a happy childhood with no trauma -- hated school initially but loved it by the time she finished - went to college, took a year off, and returned to college to study something she really wanted to: cookery and commercial course
0:09:00
The 2 courses compelemented one another and Joan got a job organizing school meals, so she had some hands on work creating meals, and admin work organizing supplies, making menus, working out nurtitional values, etc - so brain work and book work and hands on, which she loved as well - it was idyllic and only 10 minute drive from home - her son attended the same school - they got all of July and August off each year
0:10:00
Joan married her first love, her love at first sight, when she was 20 - they camped, caravan, and biking - Joan often had a car full of kids from school because they would end up at her house - Joan was asked by a woman to look after her son on a long term basis, so the 2 boys became like brothers - it was a good life, really good - and then 'boom'
0:11:00
Boom' happened October 13th 1999, she got sick overnight - looking back now that Joan knows what ME is (myalgic encephalomyelitis), there was a time in France when her brain 'blipped' and she thought she was going to faint and scared the life of her for a couple of hours, 'what the hell was that' - that was summer 1999, and about 6 weeks later, 'boom'
0:12:00
Working with kids in school she would pick up a tummy bug / gastroenteritis - on waking October 13th, Joan thought she had a tummy bug or food poisoining - she tried to get out of bed but couldn't walk, the room was spinning, her brain was spinning inside her head, the nausea was horrific, and Joan had to crawl on her hands and knees to the bathroom - desperately wanting to vomit and not able to
0:13:00
She called head office to say she was sick and would be off work one or two days at the most - 2 days passed, a week passed, 2 weeks passed and Joan realized something was not right - Joan's Mom was staying with her to take care of her - her GP made a house call and diagnosed Joan with viral labyrinthitis (inner ear infection) as causing the dizziness and nausea
0:14:00
Joan was so ill, she couldn't explain her symptoms - she didn't realize she was sicker when the curtains were open or when her mother was vacuuming - in the same way a year later, when she couldn't associate pushing herself physically that was making her sicker
0:15:00
For 11 months, Joan was carried to the bathroom, looked like she was going to die, felt like she was going to die, lost about 2 stones (28 pouinds) in weight because she couldn't eat - her husband carried her to the car and drove her to the doctor and he injected Joan with cyclizine (nausea medication) - she was injected for months and months - one day another doctor said Joan didn't have to come in for injections, she could get it in tablet form - Joan wish she'd known that because it was crucifying her to travel to and fro the doctors - one day Joan felt a wee bit better
0:16:00
Joan thought she was recovering - she got a wee bit better over the next few months, but the dizziness and nausea never left, but her energy came back a bit - Joan was afraid of losing her job so went back to work about a year after she got sick - but Joan wasn't really well enough to work
0:17:00
Joan would last until about 1pm and then she'd have to come home and go to bed until the next morning - she did this for months, never associating that pushing herself to work was making her sick, that's a concept she'd never heard of - so Joan was in a cycle of 'work and collapse' - she ended up back in bed for a few months and tried to work again - this went on for about 2 years - a friend at work suggested Joan try yoga, Joan said that was a good idea, she needed more exercise (laughter)
0:18:00
Joan went to the yoga class and can remember thinking 'I can hardly lift my leg, what's wrong?' --The next morning she went to work and 10 minutes after getting to work she fell to the floor, and spent the next 7 years in bed - the 2 years of pushing and crashing cost Joan the next 7 years, a very steep price
0:19:00
Joan can remember her doctor standing at the foot of her bed saying 'I hope and pray we're not dealing with severe ME' - but he never said anything about the importance of rest - she said to him one day she couldn't get out of bed, but she wanted to, she wanted to spend time with her son Stephen, she wanted to work - he casually said 'stay in bed if that helps' - Joan says that if the doctor had of said 'Joan, if you don't rest now, this could be the rest of your life' - but he didn't know to say that, so she doesn't blame him, he was very good to Joan - he started sending Joan to specialists, like cardiology, gastroenterology, etc
0:20:00
The specialists were all coming up with different diagnosis, like menopause - Joan says its the strangest menopause she ever heard that would put you in bed for a year - Joan's husband said we're running out of options with the National Health Service (NHS), maybe they should try a private clinic and pay out of pocket - one gastroenterologist said to Joan's husband, 'take that woman to a psychiatrist' - that was the only day in 20 years that he doubted Joan, he said 'Joan, there is something I have to tell you, these doctors can't all be wrong' - that nearly broke Joan's heart, it felt like betrayal
0:21:00
Fortunately her husband knew her well enough to believe her, and now he backs ME advocacy as much as Joan does - right now he's building some stuff for Joan's ME presentation next week - she doens't know where she'd be without him, she realizes she's very lucky - their son was 12 years old when Joan got sick, so he's been to all the ME conferences Joan has attended - without her family she could not accomplish her ME advocacy, because living with ME is horrific
0:22:00
At one point Joan doubted her own sanity because all these doctors were telling her there was nothing wrong with her - so she went to a psychiatrist and he told her he would teach her to relax and not think about her bodily sensations so much (laughs), so I didn't go back to him either - Joan says 'to be honest, it was the Lightning Process that gave her mojo, she came out of that not to be empowered to be well, but to be empowered to do something about the ME medical situation'
0:23:00
In about 2007 Joan tried the Lightning Process (LP) - Joan had a relative who is a mental health nurse, a lovely lade, and she sent Joan a newspaper clipping of this wonderful new treatment for ME
0:24:00
The article said that LP had helped people get out of wheelchairs - there was an organization called the Northern Ireland ME Association and they did a newsletter and including an article about a lady bouncing out of her wheelchair in 3 days - at first Joan scoffed, but then she thought 'what if it helps?' - she was so sick couldn't not try it
0:25:00
The LP person was to phone patients to determine if they were suitable for the program, so what that means is 'are you stupid?' (laughs) - he would talk about the ME symptoms like a person with ME, he talked about the dizziness and nausea and exhaustion, etc - Joan really beleived he knew what he was talking about - he (the LP person) then started asking Joan questions like 'how much do you want to be well, how much do you want it, are you willing to invest 3 days of your life now to get well' - questions you are never going to say 'no' to
0:26:00
He was obviously an insurance salesman at some stage in his life because he could have sold anything to you - Joan says she's not stupid, but she was desperate, and he was preying on that - he said Joan needed to make it a life changing holiday - she went and stayed in a hotel about an hour and half from her home - Joan's mom came with her because Joan was too sick to be on her own
0:27:00
So they stayed in the hotel for 3 nights and had to take a taxi about 5 minutes away to a house he rented for the LP - it was supposed to be for 3 days, but it was actually only from 10am to 2pm on 2 days, and the 3rd it finished at noon, so 10 hours in total - for lunch they were served a cup of tea and a biscuit....for 880 pounds (about $1150 USD)
0:28:00
They were told not to talk to each other about what happened in the room, don't discuss it - Joan got to know 1 of the other 3 people, Paula, and they became friends over time, and great friends today
0:29:00
About a year later Paula told Joan it was her 3rd time doing LP and her husband paid the LP person to come over for personal 'training' at 1,000 - 2,000 pounds, they were so desperate - it took Paula a year to tell Joan because she was so ashamed she'd been conned repeatedly - the LP person told Joan to only ever talk in positive terms and words
0:30:00
So Joan and Paula would have these stupid conversations only in positive terms, partially out of fear, partially because they had paid so much money - but as time went on, their health went down, and they had to admit to each other that LP is a load of crap, just mind games - it mostly just LP person talking
0:31:00
He would show things like optical illusions and it all made sense the way he said it - on the 2nd day he showed them how to do LP - that's when they started to learn affirmations - he instructed them to think of a day in the past they were happy, and bring that emotion into the present - it was like 'neuro linguistic programming' - its just brainwashing
0:32:00
Joan would go back to her hotel pumped with adrenaline - she had pieces of paper she was to put on the floor and practice LP all night - her Mom watched her standing on paper circles talking like she was cured - Joan was instructed to only speak in positive terms, so she called her husband and told him she was cured (laughs) - one of the pieces of paper says 'stop - you have a choice' - another piece of paper said 'the pit of ME' and another said 'life I want to lead', and Joan was instructed to choose one to stand on
0:33:00
Of course, people choose 'life' and stand on that piece of paper - you become your own coach - and you have to do all the movements (Joan thrusts her fist in the air in victory) and say 'I choose the life I love' (laughs)
0:34:00
When your experience symptoms, Joan was instructed to put her hands in front of her and say 'stop' - nobody was going to choose 'the pit of ME'
0:35:00
It would be ridiculous to say to someone they could be cured of cancer by standing on a piece of paper and shouting 'stop' - but because medicine has erroneously said ME is psychological, they can get away with it - they are playing on the fact there is no biomarker for ME yet, so when you can't prove a disease, it can be called anything
0:36:00
Of the 3 people who did LP with Joan, none of them recovered - one of them had ME, another depression, and another fibromyalgia - Joan practiced the self-affirmations daily and almost became evangelical about it
0:37:00
If any one had of said to Joan at the time that LP was a load of crap, she would have argued that it wasn't - the LP person phoned and asked the patients if they would go on tv or radio to tell about their experience - if he had of phoned Joan a week earlier then he did, she would've gone on tv to say how great LP was, he was like the Messiah to Joan - Joan was so desperate to better after years of being sick, she believed it
0:38:00
Joan stopped believing when her ME symtpoms started to creep back - in her head she was screaming 'no' - she did the LP and was torturing herself - but a small voice in her head kept saying LP was rubbish - so her mind was bouncing between reality and LP
0:39:00
Eventually Joan ended up bed bound again - and feeling psycholigically disturbed about how foolish she'd been, having been taken in, and telling everybody she was cured - Joan felt stupid and used and abused
0:40:00
Joan felt ashamed for being so stupid - so psychologically Joan ended up in a worse place
0:41:00
When Joan's friend finally disclosed that she was still sick, Joan was shocked and at the same time understood her desperation - since none of the 4 people recovered, Joan knew she would never do LP again and the reality "I've just been conned" started to set in - Joan only has about 20-30% of ability compared to her full health - if she's not horizontal most of the day, nothing gets accomplished - it was psychologically tough because LP felt like the last hope
0:42:00
Joan had lots of tears, heartbreak, disappointment - it was a horrible experience - Joan didn't go into depression, it was great sadness - then that sadness turned to anger, 'I've got to do something about this' - people can not go on abusing and make fools of patients - a match was lit inside Joan to do something, she didn't know yet what it was
0:43:00
The support of her husband and wanting to support her son motivated Joan - she doesn't know how people with severe ME survice on their own without some family support
0:44:00
The one thing that kept Joan sane during the years she was very sick, was a tree outside her window and she watched the seasons change - there were days when she felt like she was going to die, couldn't get out of bed, and sometimes she just counted the leaves on the tree because she couldn't read or watch tv - anything to take her mind off the suffering because she couldn't physically leave the bed - everytime her son walked down the hall, Joan thought 'better me, than him'.
0:45:00
Joan couldn't make sense of the written word due to cognitive impairment - it was like a switch in here brain was turned off - Joan can remember looking at a 4 week menu plan for work and not being able to come up with one meal plan
0:46:00
Joan wondered what was happening to her brain, she couldn't think straight or get her thoughts into order - affecting her concentration, memory, ability to focus - when she could tolerate tv, she couldn't follow the story line
0:47:00
Joan would try to fake that she knew what the tv show was about - if the radio is on and her husband says something to her, it all gets jumbled - her brain can't filter out what she doesn't want to focus on - when Joan is feeling 'well' she can go out for a meal as along as there is no background music and only 1 or 2 other people there
0:48:00
If people talk across each other, Joan is cognitively impacted and she doesn't have a clue what people are talking about - Joan has used her anger toward ME advocacy - Joan didn't even have a laptop until about 10 years into being sick, she had no contact with the outside world - she had to self learn the laptop when she got it
0:49:00
Joan and her husband where scheming how to doing something about ME - they heard about a ME support group about 20 miles away...that was a whole different experience - Joan could barely sit up at that point but the group was talking about the activities they were planning for the weekend - Joan thought she must've been in the wrong support group because she can't do any of those things - she was despondent
0:50:00
But Joan and her husband decided to start their own ME support group - Joan contacted the local newspaper and they did an article about Joan and ME - Joan booked a room at a hotel for the meeting - Joan didn't know what to expect, or if any one would actually show up...then they started coming and she thought they'd never stop coming through the door - Joan wasn't a public speaker or know what direction the group would go, they hadn't even paid for the room, but everyone put in 1 pound to pay for it
0:51:00
So Joan just spoke from her heart, about what had happened to her - she said she needed help and they formed a committee that night - and the next thing she knows they're organizing conferences and bringing over researchers from Harvard, Stanford - it was like the stars lined up and everything fell into place with very little effort, but sometimes with a massive effort - sometimes she felt like running away from it but then an opportunity awareness and educatin would come and she could not let it pass - and the group grew and grew
0:52:00
Joan says the only thing she did was to tell the truth, she's not a doctor or scientist, she's just one person who got ME and is not going to leave this world quietly - doors started opening
0:53:00
This year in particular, they've been asked to do a presentation in the GPs surgery (clinic), that is massive - last week Joan was asked to talk to the European Health Connection - Joan realizes instead of her having to ask people to learn and hear about ME, now they're coming to Joan's group
0:54:00
LP didn't take off too much in Northern Ireland, or people are too ashamed to admit it, which Joan can understand - there is zero ME research in North Ireland - advocates had been trying for years to get services but hadn't got any where
0:55:00
One day Joan got a call from Horace Reid (SPELLING??) from the Northern Ireland ME Association to tell her she was doing a great job and keep up the good work, and that was a real boost for Joan - Horace ended up joining Joan's group's committee and has been a great friend, advisor, and advocate
0:56:00
Soon Joan and other advocates met with Health and Social Care Board - Joan was frightened and just listened - they kept meeting with them but nothing happened - they then asked the Patient Client Council to help them
0:57:00
They are supposed to represent the patient voice - they started to come to the meetings with the Board and hold them more accountable - that's when people started to listen and things started to change, that was in 2012 -- in 2018, the Chief Medical Officer for Northern Ireland opened the conference and it was announced a new ME Clinical Lead for NI was being interviewed for the new ME clinic - but the clinic hasn't opened yet, it it was left to patients it would've been started by now
0:58:00
They are just waiting for the press release to announce the new clinic - it is exciting but the down side is only it is only a part time position and no supports for kids, so a long way to go yet - doctors are now referring them to the support group because there is no other place to refer, and they will get the best support from other patients
0:59:00
Joan has to spend a lot of time horizontal, drapes and windows closed, phone off, don't any body think of coming into the room, so not just lay down, but complete shut down - Joan has tried antivirals and antiretrovirals (ARVs) - another friend started ARVs first and she got good results, not cured, but she was severe and now she's at moderate / severe
1:00:00
So it improved her health one level and she's holding that - ARVs are expensive, maybe about 300 pounds a month - Joan tried ARVs but started to feel worse
1:01:00
Joan persisted taking them until one day she was having trouble breathing so stopped them, but tried them again about 6 months later but had the same reaction - but that didn't bother her as much as the LP because it didn't mess with her head
1:02:00
Joan's illness impacted her son - he was just moving up from primary to high school when Joan got sick and it affected him
1:03:00
Knowing how ME was impacting her son, motivated Joan to fight on - it made Joan very angry she couldn't protect her child from pain, that's a big reason she got into advocacy - no kid needs to see there mother in bed like a vegetable
1:04:00
Joan doesn't know how parents with kids with ME cope - if Joan's son had ME, she would've murdered somebody in health service by now
1:05:00
Joan's support group has parents of children with ME, but they have to keep a low profile for fear of having health services accuse them of 'fabricating illness' in their child - they have to play along with mental health services, not cause a fuss, don't fight too hard - Joan hopes once the adult ME services are running, those parents will have an easier time - but they are scared
1:06:00
It happens more often in England, but a few parents in Northern Ireland have come close to having their sick child taken away from them
1:07:00
Joan doesn't want to take away people's hope, but she also doesn't want them to go through what she did with LP, the false hope - Joan says to put yourself in the place of someone who had cancer and ask yourself, 'would I do LP for cancer?' - ME is a physical disease and can't be cured with psychological tricks
1:08:00
You've got a physical disease that nobody can see on an x-ray or a blood test, but it is there and it cannot be talked out of your body
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<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
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<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
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<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When people are very sick and suffering, especially for months and years, they are desperate to try almost anything to have even a little improvement in their quality of life. 
This makes patients susceptible to shysters preying on desperation. Like the snake oil salesman of yesteryear, today we have their modern incantations and must contend with their psychological snake oil.
For a short while, Joan McParland metaphorically drank the snake oil laced Kool-Aid.
Joan had been very sick and bedbound for years with the neuroimmune illness myalgic encephalomyelitis - which literally means ‘inflammation of the brain and spinal cord’ - Joan was desperate to try anything so she could be well enough to the healthy Mom she used to be for her son, and return to the work she loved.
Joan paid big money to participate in the ‘lightning process’, a program that professes to treat all sorts of chronic symptoms in just 3 days. Evidently this is not some benign distraction, it has been reported that a Norwegian teen tried to committ suicide after failling to improve from the lightning process.
In the 3 day program, Joan and the other participants were told not to share anything about how the lightning process works with anyone else, or talk to each other about the lightning process, and to only talk about themselves in positive, healthy language and to tell people they were cured --- some people even had to sign contracts with those constraints.
But Joan is not one to be complicit in promoting self-blaming brainwashing and is telling the truth about what secretly happens in the costly lightning process. 
It works basically like this: you stand on a piece of paper that has ‘stop - I have a choice’ written on it. Then you say that aloud.
Two arrows point to your choices.
One arrow points to a piece of paper that has ‘the pit’ written on it. This represents your symptoms and illness.
The other arrow points to a piece of paper that has ‘the life I want to lead’ written on it.
You choose which piece of paper you want to stand on and say that aloud.
That’s it -- you do that repeatedly and it will cure you.
Doing a little bit of googling and it turns out both the British Advertising Standards and the Nordic Consumer Ombudsman have ruled against the lighting process for making false claims on its website. 
It has been described as "quackery backed by pseudoscientific theory", and as a costly pyramid scheme since people who train in the process frequently go on to become paid practitioners themselves.
What makes it really dangerous, is that dubious researchers have subjected children to the snake oil. It is unclear how the research ethics board allowed children to become guinea pigs, since the program was described as ‘"like CBT, but with bullying”.
When Joan continued to be very sick, she realized she’d been conned. She told family and friends she was cured, but in reality she was just as sick and disabled as before. Joan felt used and abused -- and also ashamed and embarrassed for being so gullible to pay large sums for something so obviously rooted in magical thinking and profit making off the sick. 
But Joan’s shame quickly turned to anger when she thought about how many other sick and disabled people were being scammed out of their money, and made to feel it was their fault if they weren’t cured -- and so Joan has set out to tell the truth so other patients don’t fall for the same scam.
 
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Joan was an only child and born in Northern Ireland, near the border - a happy childhood with no trauma -- hated school initially but loved it by the time she finished - went to college, took a year off, and returned to college to study something she really wanted to: cookery and commercial course
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        <title>Jordan's Story: "Mom, I just want to go home." Jordan's Mom: "You killed my daughter."</title>
        <itunes:title>Jordan's Story: "Mom, I just want to go home." Jordan's Mom: "You killed my daughter."</itunes:title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Sandy and Anthony Perez kept telling doctors their daughter Jordan was very sick. Their concerns were dismissed and Jordan’s pain minimized. They were ping-ponged between specialists, dealing with ongoing misdiagnosis, and doctors who refused to listen to Jordan and her parents and threatened to remove medical care.</p>
<p>When Jordan died in the hospital, Sandy and Anthony thought it was due to a yet to be diagnosed illness. Only later would they find out Jordan had been poisoned to death by the hospital and they were covering it up. </p>
<p>Wanting justice for Jordan, Sandy and Anthony sought legal support - over 100 lawyers told them the same thing: California has a law that effectively makes hiring a lawyer for medical malpractice suits a non-starter: the law puts a cap on how much lawyers can be paid and how much victims can be awarded. Suing is a money losing proposition.</p>
<p>As Sandy and Anthony learned, the legal system is set up to deny justice to medical victims, and the medical system is set up to deny accountability of doctors. A de facto license to kill.</p>
<p>Jordan shouldn’t have died. </p>
<p>Sandy and Anthony shouldn’t have to fight to find out how the hospital killed their daughter.</p>
<p>
Jordan's drawing, titled: Will you remember me?</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
 
Interviewing Sandy and Anthony Perez about their daughter Jordan
0:05:30
Sandy was born outside of Chicago, but raised in California since she was 7 - had a normal childhood with 3 sisters - went to college - met Anthony in 1994
0:06:30
Anthony was born and raised in California - good childhood with great mom and dad - their daughter Jordan was born April 5th, 2000 - she was a cranky baby, didn't want to sleep unless being held, always wanted to sleep with them
0:07:30
She was a one-off child, liked to do things her way - she liked to dress herself, there was no arguing with her - she played soft ball since age 4 and made the city's all-star team for 2 years - and her Dad (Anthony) coached her - when they moved to the high desert, they put Jordan in 'travel ball' - a more intense game softball league
0:08:30
The league had better quality coaches and was geared to show to colleges - it is called 'travel ball' because they traveled to and played in different cities - Jordan was the kid who would befriend others - at Jordan's memorial service, several of her friends spoke of how they were alone but Jordan invited them to play
0:09:30
It was very important to Jordan that others felt included and were not left out - in May 2014 Jordan started to complain of headaches - Jordan had allergies, including grass, but benadryul helped - then her neck started to hurt - in December 2014 she went to the doctor with neck and head pain
0:10:30
Jordan was suspected to have mastoiditis (infection in the masto bone behind the ear) and sent her to the ER - they didn't find anything, didn't run any blood tests, suggested it was migraines and sent Jordan home - a couple of weeks later Jordan had symptoms of the flu, couldn't keep fluid or food down, so they took her to the ER - they told the ER doc about the previous mastioditis diagnosis, so they ran more tests and found blood clots in Jordan's brain
0:11:30
They sent them to another trauma centre and that is where Jordan was treated for the next 3.5 years - they were frightened and wondering how it could've been missed - blood clots don't usually show up on CAT scans, but they did in Jordan
0:12:30
They were told the blood clots were a rare complication from the infection in the masto bones - Sandy and Anthony asked how Jordan could've gotten mastoiditis, and were told via infection of the sinus or ear - but Jordan didn't have those infections, so how could that be? But nobody could answer that - the hospital put Jordan on a hepadrin drip for a day and then changed to lovonox injections - both are blood thinners to more blood clots, but wouldn't treat Jordan's current blood clots
0:13:30
They also put Jordan on antibiotics for 6 weeks to fight the infection - Jordan started to perk up a bit, her headaches would coma and go, and she was treated with Toradol, which Sandy understands is a super Motrin, and that seemed to be Jordan's 'wonder drug' - she would be much better for 24 - 36 hours on one dose - it appeared Jordan was getting better - what they didn't know was that Jordan wasn't getting better
0:14:30
During Dec 2014 while getting treatment at the hospital, Jordan appeared to have a stroke and they sent her to ICU - ultimately they sent Jordan home saying she was improving and to continue the antibiotics - Sandy and Anthony were told Jordan had a stroke, and told she did not have a stroke - Jordan was sent home early January 2015 but Jordan was in the local ER a few days later with uncontrolled chest pain - the local hospital called Jordan's trauma hospital to transfer her, but they refused
0:15:30
The local hospital treated her and sent her home - the very next day they ended up at the trauma hospital with chest pain, increased headache, blurry vision, and a reaction to the antibiotic medication - they admitted Jordan for a couple of days, adjusted her antibiotic and sent her home again - about a week later, the eye doctor suggested a lumbar puncture because of Jordan's blurry vision and swelling of the optic nerve - this showed Jordan's cerebral pressure was severely elevated
0:16:30
A lumbar puncture extracts spinal fluid, during the process they monitor the pressure level and check spinal fluid for infections - Jordan's pressure was elevated, nearly twice normal - and it can affect vision
0:17:30
The following year they did another lumbar puncture, but the day after Jordan would vomit just from being touched - they put in a lumbar drain, to drain cerebral spinal fluid and monitored her for 5 weeks and make a decision how to proceed - in Feb 2015 they made a decision to internalize the drain, making it a lumbar shunt, and sent Jordan home - her headaches seemed to be improving, but she was taking Motrin daily
0:18:30
Jordan started developing a lump where she had shunt surgery, the doctors said it was filling with cerebral fluid, so they had to do a revision surgery - Jordan had to lay flat after the surgeries, she couldn't get up to go to the bathroom, so was very uncomfortable - she had a surgical scar on her abdomen as well as her back, and she was in pain - March 2015 was the revision surgery
0:19:30
Jordan needed another revision surgery in May because cerebral spinal fluid kept leaking of her back surgical scar - in June 2015 they went to Jordan's softball team's banquet because they recognized that Jordan had been on the team, but too sick to play - they had to leave the banquet early because Jordan started leaking spinal fluid, and they went to the hospital - they took the shunt out, and reverted back to the lumbar drain - a few days later they implanted a VP shunt, going from Jordan's head to her abdomen
0:20:30
The tubing was in the ventricles of her right side, and drainig the cerebral fluid into her abdomen - they put a hole in her skull, and the shunt ran down her head, behind her ear, and over her shoulder and down her back - and that was very uncomfortable for Jordan - Jordan's diagnosis never changed: infection causing mastoiditis, with rare complication of blood clots, causing increased intracranial hypertension
0:21:30
In January 2015 they learned from an infectious disease specialist suggested cancer could be a cause a differential diagnosis - oncology did ask about cancer in the family, and Sandy and Anthony said there was cancer on both sides, but the doctors never followed up for the entire 3.5 years
0:22:30
But June 2015 Jordan had daily headaches, impaired memory and vision, and still too sick for school - she was on the hospital home bound program to do some school work - Sandy had to write down Jordan's words because Jordan had IVs in her hand - she finished her freshman year about a week before her sophomore year started - the family went on vacation in August 2015, but Jordan stayed in the condo rental, she wasn't well enough to leave
0:23:30
So Jordan was still exhibiting the same symptoms from the start, in spite of the treatments, in spite of the surgeries - Jordan was back in the hospital a few times for head and chest pain, but the hospital couldn't find anything wrong and would send her home - in Feb 2016, Jordan's eye doctor say that Jordan's optic nerve was swelling again and recommended opening up the drain further to reduce pressure and help her vision and so she wouldn't go blind, but it was not to help her headaches
0:24:30
Feb 2016 the neurosurgeon opend the shunt all the way, but Jordan still got sick and was in and out of the hosptial - in June 2016 she saw a new pedeatric neurologist at the same hospital, and he started suggesting it was migraines because of a family history - Sandy told him it wasn't migraines because Motrin doesn't work on migraines, and Motrin worked for Jordan, she didn't need anything stronger - he then suggested Jordan was abusing Motrin - they pointed out she was only taking 400mg a day, and that is not excessive
0:25:30
The doctor also suggested they go back to hematology, and they took her off the blood thinning medication in June 2016 - but Jordan still battled with headaches, blurry vision, and kept getting sicker - Jordan's health would be up and down, so Sandy and Anthony tried to enjoy life with her
0:26:30
But Sandy was frustrated the hospital kept saying it was migraines and she knew it wasn't - when Jordan complained of jaw pain, they sent her to a dentist who couldn't find anything wrong - Jordan's joints would ache, but rheumatology would say there was nothing wrong with her - Sandy got more frustrated so took Jordan to another hospital for assessment, they too suggested migraines - Sandy was still working, when Jordan was in the hospital, Sandy would work from her bedside - do her job around doctors, testing, etc
0:27:30
Anthony says it was hard, they didn't know what they were dealing with - sometimes Jordan would grab her neck and Anthony thought it was maybe muscle spasms - when she'd come into the living room to get something to eat, she'd be doubled over, holding her stomach, saying how much pain she was in
0:28:30
To be experiencing that much pain without a proper diagnosis is ridiculous - Jordan missed her sophomore school year, and was on the home study program, but they had to fight to get her proper courses and support to keep Jordan in her honour classes
0:29:30
Jordan missed her friends, and it was hard on her - in July 2017 Jordan was getting increased headaches and had a new lumbar puncture
0:30:30
Sandy told the hematologist that Jordan seemed to be having blood clots in her toes, the doctor dismissed that and said Jordan must have dropped something on her toes to cause the trauma - Sandy explained that was not possible because Jordan was mostly bed ridden - the hospital said that Jordan needed to be taken off Motrin, she was using and abusing it - that night Jordan was vomiting because of the pain
0:31:30
She was admitted to the hospital that same doctor said that Jordan had migraines and needed to be detoxed from Motrin - he told Sandy and Anthony that if they didn't accept his diagnosis of migraines, he would refuse to treat Jordan - meanwhile Jordan is very sick with a forced diagnosis that didn't fit - Sandy told the head nurse that if they are saying it is migraines, then they might as well discharge Jordan - then a neurosurgeon came in and said he reviewed all Jordan's MRIs of the past year and a half and saw that she had enlarged veins since spring 2016
0:32:30
He wanted to angiograms to see if that was causing issues in her brain - an angiogram is a catheter like needle into the body to see what is going on in the venous structure using contrast to show up on images
0:33:30
The neurologist who pushed a migraine diagnosis came in and wanted Jordan's complete history, so they told him about everything from 2014 up to that point - he said he would get a 2nd opinion hematology consult - but he never recorded it in her records and never requested it - he said he would give her a lumbar puncture but if it was a certain number they would have to concede he was right with the migraine diagnosis - Sandy told him what he wanted to hear to get testing and treatment for Jordan
0:34:30
When the numbers came back, Sandy maintained that it was not migraines, something else was making her sick - they discharged Jordan and gave her Motrin - they had one follow up appointment with the neurologist and he suggested it was psychiatric - he referred them to another neurologist and refused to treat Jordan - he followed through on his threat and refused to treat Jordan - they saw the new neurologist in September 2017, at first he mentioned psuedo tumor cerebri, this is alos intracranial hypertension when the brain thinks it has a tumor but it doesn't - he said he'd do some research and talk to them at Jordan's next appointment
0:35:30
Jordan was sicker and ended up back in the ER - they said it was migraines and copy and pasted previous notes that said Jordan was abusing Motrin - they put her on a detox protocol called DHE, a medication to help people withdraw from medications that are harming them - Jordan got sicker, not from the DHE, but from the pain - they also gave her Toradol (like super Motrin), so while they are detoxing her from Motrin, they give her high dose Motrin
0:36:30
The attending doctor said 'it looks like the DHE protocol is working' - Sandy said 'no, you approved Toradol, that's what's helping her, not the DHE protocol' - that doctor said they'll send Toradol home with Jordan - Jordan would be less sick with the Toradol, but after it wore off after 24 hours, she'd get sicker - Jordan had been taking the Motrin as directed
0:37:30
They went back to the neurologist who diagnosed intracranial hypertension, but he changed his diagnosis to migraines and attempted to treat her with migraine meds - they told him that Jordan did not have migraines - he suggested treatment with Botox - Jordan got sick during the appointment and they went across the street to the ER - again they said migraines, again Sandy and Anthony said it wasn't migraines, they gave her Toradol
0:38:30
The attending physician didn't examine Jordan, but asked if anybody had told them that Jordan had an enlarged spleen - Sandy said it had never been mentioned, what does it mean, what's the impact on Jordan - the doctor said 'its probably nothing' and they discharge Jordan with migraines - they went to Jordan's primary care doctor and said the hospital must be missing something - he order more testing, but it was to be done at the hospital, that's where all of Jordan's records were
0:39:30
On February 14, 2018 Jordan had abdominal imaging, ultrasound done - they wouldn't let Jordan leave at first - they asked about Jordan's history of blood clots and the shunts - they said Jordan had to follow up with her primary care right away - Sandy asked if they had to go to the ER, and they said 'no' - on the way home, Sandy called primary to make an appointment - Jordan was to come to primary care in the morning of Feb 16th - at the appointment they told the family that Jordan had 'portal vein thrombosis' which is blood clots leading into the liver
0:40:30
He sent them back to the hospital, they ended up in the ER - at the time they did not know that the person who introduced themselves as a doctor, was actually an unlicensed medical student, with no authority to examine, treat or discharge Jordan - his attending physician supervisor did signed saying she examined Jordan but never did - the 'doctor' said he didn't accept testing not from the hospital, and ordered all the same tests - they confirmed portal vein thrombosis - the 'doctor' said it was a GI issue and referred them to a GI department - Sandy called the GI department, but they refused to do anything while Jordan was in the ER
0:41:30
The GI department said Jordan needed to book a consult - Sandy told them they had previously requested a consult - regardless, they refused to set an appointment - Sandy asked the ER 'doctor' to bring in a GI doc to the ER for Jordan, but he said it wasn't necessary - they also asked that hematology be notified because this was the 3rd appearance of blood clots - again the ER 'doctor' said it was a GI issue and Jordan needed to be seen only as an outpatient - they discharged Jordan and told her parents it was not a life threatening condition
0:42:30
The following Tuesday Sandy called the GI department to make an appointment - they said they would review Jordan's file and call back in 24 - 48 hours with an appointment - but they didn't call until March 2nd - Sandy also called hematology to make sure they been told Jordan had more blood clots - they called back and said they were not told, and to take Jordan to the ER and they would admit her - Jordan was admitted on Feb 20, 2018 to Feb 23 -- on the 21st they wanted to send her home to be an outpatient, but Sandy demanded the GI come see Jordan will she was inpatient
0:43:30
The GI said that wanted to do an endoscopy to see inside her abdomen - they said the results were mild reflux, but nobody could explain the blood clots - Sandy asked 3 different hematologists about cancer testing - one said they could do that test, another indicated he would order them, but never did - the 3rd said cancer testing was unnecessary because her blood tests were normal
0:44:30
This 3rd hematologist is the same one who in 2015 was told to do a cancer differential diagnosis, which he never did - but Jordan's blood work was not normal - they sent Jordan home - on Feb 26th they were back in the ER, Jordan was doubled over in pain - she was seen by a resident doctor who insisted Jordan was constipated and gave Jordan an enema - Jordan felt completely humiliated - and still in pain
0:45:30
The attending physician signed off said she had examined Jordan, but she never came in, they never saw her - she was sent home with constipation medication - on the Feb 27th they called oncology, they advised managing Jordan's pain at home because they had an appointment on the 28th with hematologist and he would admit her to the hospital - on Feb 28th they had their appointment with the hematologist - Sandy begged him to help her - he said it was a GI issue, he could refer her to pain management, and sent her home
0:46:30
He never put that in Jordan's medical notes - that night they called oncology to let them know they were bringing Jordan to the ER and listed her symptoms - when they got to the ER just before midnight - they made Jordan wait for 4 - 5 hours -- Sandy kept letting them know Jordan's pain was very high, but other patients were prioritized, including somebody walking out on crutches from a sprained ankle
0:47:30
Jordan was admitted to the hospital on March 1st - the hospital staff said Jordan was quite sick - Sandy said 'yes, we've been trying to tell you that for 3 years' - on March 4th a new hematologist asked about the cancer testing - she suggested Jordan may have lymphoma and they needed to do further testing - Jordan was being monitored in the ICU
0:48:30
On March 5th Jordan was moved back to onclology and they did a bone marrow biopsy for cancer - on March 6th they were waiting for test results - Jordan was heavily agitated, kept trying to get out of bed - the last words she said to Sandy were "Mom, I just want to go home" - Jordan layed back down and fell asleep - later that night Sandy went to Ronald McDonald house to get some rest
0:49:30
About 30 minutes later the hospital called Sandy to say Jordan was non-responsive and they had administered Narcan - Sandy got back to the hospital and over heard the doctor arguing for the last bed in the ICU - they told Sandy again they had given Jordan Narcan, it is given to someone to reverse an overdose - On March 6th they moved Jordan back to the ICU and said they needed to put Jordan into a medically induced coma to allow time for her to heal
0:50:30
The resident doctor told them that Jordan's ammonia levels were very elevated - Sandy asked how they missed that? - his answer was 'not to focus on placing blame, but to focus on Jordan getting better' - early March 7th they placed a drain in Jordan's abdomen - Instead of draining normally, it was draining into Jordan's abdomen - a couple of hours later the same doctor that was arguing for an ICU bed, told Sandy and Anthony that they were life-lining Jordan to another facility because she needed a liver transplant
0:51:30
So they started to prepare for that - Anthony went home to grab some sleep and Sandy stayed at the hospital with Jordan - at about 8am the ER attending doctor said Jordan was very sick, Sandy said we've been trying to tell you that - during morning rounds, the GI doctor who saw Jordan in Feb, came running in and told the attending hematologist she failed to read Jordan's lab work from weeks prior when Jordan was in the hospital and had alpha one anti trypsin deficiency disorder, and it affects the liver and lungs
0:52:30
The doctor than told Sandy she'd provide more info once Jordan was stable and transferred to another facility - Sandy and Anthony thought the worse was probably over, and the staff never said Jordan was dying - around 8:30 neurosurgery came in and said they needed to remove the shunt tubing from her abdomen because she had an infection and they didn't want it to spread to her brain - so Sandy and Anthony permitted that surgical procedure
0:53:30
Sandy was waiting in the family room right outside the ICU while they performed the procedure - at about 10:40 am while Jordan was still in surgery, a social worker came into the family room and told Sandy that Jordan had 'coded' during the procedure - Sandy remembers running to Jordan and yelling 'you killed my daughter, you killed her' - the social worker asked Sandy what she meant - she said that they'd been bringing Jordan for help and they kept saying migraines
0:54:30
They did CPR for about an hour until Anthony could get to the hospital - they gave Jordan blood products - but they stopped at about 11:40 am - that day they asked Sandy and Anthony if there was anything they needed - Sandy and Anthony asked for the lab reports and testing as they had other children and wanted to know if there was anything they needed to worry about - the hospital said they would get those results to Sandy / Anthony, but they never did - about 2 weeks later, they went to the hospital's patient relations and requested the information again - and filed a complaint
0:55:30
State law says they have to turn over medical records within 15 days, but they didn't hand them over until about 40 days later - when Sandy was going through the records over the next few months, in July 2018 she realized the records were missing a huge chunk of data - so they requested again, and it took another 45 days to get more records - to this day, Sandy and Anthony still don't have all Jordan's medical records - that info was either withheld, or never recorded
0:56:30
In Feb 2019, Sandy and Anthony went to Washington DC for rare disease week - they went because of the rare blood disease Jordan was diagnosed with 6 weeks after her death, called 'primary myelofibrosis', an extremely rare form of leukemia, less then 50 children in the US diagnosed with it - less then 20,000 nationally - someone at rare disease week said something sounded fishy - they were advised to ask if Jordan's death had been reported to any agency
0:57:30
Sandy contacted the California Department of Public Health to see if Jordan's death had been reported - they told Sandy they had no record of Jordan's death - Sandy asked if the hospital was required to report Jordan's death - Sandy was put on hold - she was then recommended to file a complaint - so she did file a complaint - even though Sandy and Anthony have had several conversations with the investigator, they still don't have any info and its been 10 months
0:58:30
It is a state investigation, so red tape, bureaucracy, limited personnel - those things have caused delay - they hope to get more records soon
0:59:30
They had Jordan's GP look at the records, and paid a professional to review and confirm Jordan's eventual diagnsosis of 'primary myelofibrosis' - the hematologist who had suggested lymphoma called Sandy and Anthony on April 23, 2019 and asked if any one had spoken to them about what was going on? - Sandy asked if Jordan's diagnosis had of been caught earlier if Jordan would still be alive, and the hematologist said 'yes' - but never heard from the hematologist again, but knows she left the hospital in April 2019
1:00:30
Sandy researched 'primary myelofibrosis' and life expectancy is up to 10 years after diagnosis - but she could have been cured with stem cell transplants or been in remission and lived a full life - in April the hematologist said she'd written a report and what happened to Jordan - in Sept 2019, Sandy and Anthony found out that the hospital had overdosed Jordan causing her death - and they were not monitoring her as they should have been
1:01:30
Sandy and Anthony think the hematologist report covers an adverse event, and by state law that must be reported, but the hospital chose to cover it up instead of reporting it - in California they have laws that put a low cap on medical malpractice settlements making getting a lawyer impossible because they won't earn any money
1:02:30
So the system is set up so patients can't get justice, and doctors are not held accountable either by the justice system or the state medical board - Sandy and Anthony have not heard from the medical board since they filed their 9 complaints against the providers
1:03:30
Sandy and Anthony asked, in January 2019, the investigator to include another 257 providers associated with hospital or Jordan's care, but they have not heard any thing - Sandy and Anthony have been advocating for reform of the MICRA Act (medical injury compensation reform act of 1975)
1:04:30
MICRA limits compensation to $250,000 due to medical injury or death by medical injury - it also limits how much an attorney can be paid to about $75,000 - but in Jordan's case it would cost about $200,000 to litigate, making it economically infeasible, and that patients can't get justice - there is a current ballot proposal called the Fairness for Injured Patients Act (FIPA) that they want on the November election ballot to overturn MICRA
1:05:30
Sandy and Anthony filed a medical malpractice case in May 2019, naming 22 defendants - they are expecting the defense counsel to do a 'demure', and that is saying the case is unwarranted and why - then Sandy and Anthony will have an opportunity to respond to the 'demure'
1:06:30
Then the case will be heard by a judge who will decide if the case has merit or not - Sandy and Anthony don't have a lawyer, but have consulted with attorneys, but Sandy and Anthony are writing the legal briefs
1:07:30
There are thousands of Californians who've been medically injured who have no recourse - that what the FIPA will remedy - and that is why families are speaking publicly - under the current law, children and the elderly are most vulnerable - Sandy has cashed in all her savings to help pay for things
1:08:30
They have started a <a href='https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-jordan-jordansstory?fbclid=IwAR1gA2h7qrrQzbx3RAEnTb9DPT4WFsWJcWRdw503nc-IqHNnSlNAfeb0_aU'>GoFundMe</a> page to help with legal bills they will occur
1:09:30
Sandy is up and down emotionally - she has a lot of work today in addition to her day time job - reviewing files, preparing legal documents, being a wife and mother - but Sandy doesn't feel like she's had a chance to grieve the loss of her daughter - Sandy and Athony are making meaning through advocacy in Jordan's name - they want to make sure the hospital doesn't kill more people -- they use #JordansStory on twitter and Facebook
1:10:30
Sandy says if you're sick, or a caregiver, and you don't believe the doctors, push back, seek 2nd, 3rd or 10th opinions if you have to -- the doctors told Sandy and Anthony that there is so much info about diseases, they don't even know 1/ 10th of it - so don't let them discourage you, and ask them to have conversations about your own research - don't let them disparage you, don't let them chide you, don't let them discourage you from doing your own research and asking your own questions
 
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy and Anthony Perez kept telling doctors their daughter Jordan was very sick. Their concerns were dismissed and Jordan’s pain minimized. They were ping-ponged between specialists, dealing with ongoing misdiagnosis, and doctors who refused to listen to Jordan and her parents and threatened to remove medical care.</p>
<p>When Jordan died in the hospital, Sandy and Anthony thought it was due to a yet to be diagnosed illness. Only later would they find out Jordan had been poisoned to death by the hospital and they were covering it up. </p>
<p>Wanting justice for Jordan, Sandy and Anthony sought legal support - over 100 lawyers told them the same thing: California has a law that effectively makes hiring a lawyer for medical malpractice suits a non-starter: the law puts a cap on how much lawyers can be paid and how much victims can be awarded. Suing is a money losing proposition.</p>
<p>As Sandy and Anthony learned, the legal system is set up to deny justice to medical victims, and the medical system is set up to deny accountability of doctors. A de facto license to kill.</p>
<p>Jordan shouldn’t have died. </p>
<p>Sandy and Anthony shouldn’t have to fight to find out how the hospital killed their daughter.</p>
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Jordan's drawing, titled: <em>Will you remember me?</em></p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
 
Interviewing Sandy and Anthony Perez about their daughter Jordan
0:05:30
Sandy was born outside of Chicago, but raised in California since she was 7 - had a normal childhood with 3 sisters - went to college - met Anthony in 1994
0:06:30
Anthony was born and raised in California - good childhood with great mom and dad - their daughter Jordan was born April 5th, 2000 - she was a cranky baby, didn't want to sleep unless being held, always wanted to sleep with them
0:07:30
She was a one-off child, liked to do things her way - she liked to dress herself, there was no arguing with her - she played soft ball since age 4 and made the city's all-star team for 2 years - and her Dad (Anthony) coached her - when they moved to the high desert, they put Jordan in 'travel ball' - a more intense game softball league
0:08:30
The league had better quality coaches and was geared to show to colleges - it is called 'travel ball' because they traveled to and played in different cities - Jordan was the kid who would befriend others - at Jordan's memorial service, several of her friends spoke of how they were alone but Jordan invited them to play
0:09:30
It was very important to Jordan that others felt included and were not left out - in May 2014 Jordan started to complain of headaches - Jordan had allergies, including grass, but benadryul helped - then her neck started to hurt - in December 2014 she went to the doctor with neck and head pain
0:10:30
Jordan was suspected to have mastoiditis (infection in the masto bone behind the ear) and sent her to the ER - they didn't find anything, didn't run any blood tests, suggested it was migraines and sent Jordan home - a couple of weeks later Jordan had symptoms of the flu, couldn't keep fluid or food down, so they took her to the ER - they told the ER doc about the previous mastioditis diagnosis, so they ran more tests and found blood clots in Jordan's brain
0:11:30
They sent them to another trauma centre and that is where Jordan was treated for the next 3.5 years - they were frightened and wondering how it could've been missed - blood clots don't usually show up on CAT scans, but they did in Jordan
0:12:30
They were told the blood clots were a rare complication from the infection in the masto bones - Sandy and Anthony asked how Jordan could've gotten mastoiditis, and were told via infection of the sinus or ear - but Jordan didn't have those infections, so how could that be? But nobody could answer that - the hospital put Jordan on a hepadrin drip for a day and then changed to lovonox injections - both are blood thinners to more blood clots, but wouldn't treat Jordan's current blood clots
0:13:30
They also put Jordan on antibiotics for 6 weeks to fight the infection - Jordan started to perk up a bit, her headaches would coma and go, and she was treated with Toradol, which Sandy understands is a super Motrin, and that seemed to be Jordan's 'wonder drug' - she would be much better for 24 - 36 hours on one dose - it appeared Jordan was getting better - what they didn't know was that Jordan wasn't getting better
0:14:30
During Dec 2014 while getting treatment at the hospital, Jordan appeared to have a stroke and they sent her to ICU - ultimately they sent Jordan home saying she was improving and to continue the antibiotics - Sandy and Anthony were told Jordan had a stroke, and told she did not have a stroke - Jordan was sent home early January 2015 but Jordan was in the local ER a few days later with uncontrolled chest pain - the local hospital called Jordan's trauma hospital to transfer her, but they refused
0:15:30
The local hospital treated her and sent her home - the very next day they ended up at the trauma hospital with chest pain, increased headache, blurry vision, and a reaction to the antibiotic medication - they admitted Jordan for a couple of days, adjusted her antibiotic and sent her home again - about a week later, the eye doctor suggested a lumbar puncture because of Jordan's blurry vision and swelling of the optic nerve - this showed Jordan's cerebral pressure was severely elevated
0:16:30
A lumbar puncture extracts spinal fluid, during the process they monitor the pressure level and check spinal fluid for infections - Jordan's pressure was elevated, nearly twice normal - and it can affect vision
0:17:30
The following year they did another lumbar puncture, but the day after Jordan would vomit just from being touched - they put in a lumbar drain, to drain cerebral spinal fluid and monitored her for 5 weeks and make a decision how to proceed - in Feb 2015 they made a decision to internalize the drain, making it a lumbar shunt, and sent Jordan home - her headaches seemed to be improving, but she was taking Motrin daily
0:18:30
Jordan started developing a lump where she had shunt surgery, the doctors said it was filling with cerebral fluid, so they had to do a revision surgery - Jordan had to lay flat after the surgeries, she couldn't get up to go to the bathroom, so was very uncomfortable - she had a surgical scar on her abdomen as well as her back, and she was in pain - March 2015 was the revision surgery
0:19:30
Jordan needed another revision surgery in May because cerebral spinal fluid kept leaking of her back surgical scar - in June 2015 they went to Jordan's softball team's banquet because they recognized that Jordan had been on the team, but too sick to play - they had to leave the banquet early because Jordan started leaking spinal fluid, and they went to the hospital - they took the shunt out, and reverted back to the lumbar drain - a few days later they implanted a VP shunt, going from Jordan's head to her abdomen
0:20:30
The tubing was in the ventricles of her right side, and drainig the cerebral fluid into her abdomen - they put a hole in her skull, and the shunt ran down her head, behind her ear, and over her shoulder and down her back - and that was very uncomfortable for Jordan - Jordan's diagnosis never changed: infection causing mastoiditis, with rare complication of blood clots, causing increased intracranial hypertension
0:21:30
In January 2015 they learned from an infectious disease specialist suggested cancer could be a cause a differential diagnosis - oncology did ask about cancer in the family, and Sandy and Anthony said there was cancer on both sides, but the doctors never followed up for the entire 3.5 years
0:22:30
But June 2015 Jordan had daily headaches, impaired memory and vision, and still too sick for school - she was on the hospital home bound program to do some school work - Sandy had to write down Jordan's words because Jordan had IVs in her hand - she finished her freshman year about a week before her sophomore year started - the family went on vacation in August 2015, but Jordan stayed in the condo rental, she wasn't well enough to leave
0:23:30
So Jordan was still exhibiting the same symptoms from the start, in spite of the treatments, in spite of the surgeries - Jordan was back in the hospital a few times for head and chest pain, but the hospital couldn't find anything wrong and would send her home - in Feb 2016, Jordan's eye doctor say that Jordan's optic nerve was swelling again and recommended opening up the drain further to reduce pressure and help her vision and so she wouldn't go blind, but it was not to help her headaches
0:24:30
Feb 2016 the neurosurgeon opend the shunt all the way, but Jordan still got sick and was in and out of the hosptial - in June 2016 she saw a new pedeatric neurologist at the same hospital, and he started suggesting it was migraines because of a family history - Sandy told him it wasn't migraines because Motrin doesn't work on migraines, and Motrin worked for Jordan, she didn't need anything stronger - he then suggested Jordan was abusing Motrin - they pointed out she was only taking 400mg a day, and that is not excessive
0:25:30
The doctor also suggested they go back to hematology, and they took her off the blood thinning medication in June 2016 - but Jordan still battled with headaches, blurry vision, and kept getting sicker - Jordan's health would be up and down, so Sandy and Anthony tried to enjoy life with her
0:26:30
But Sandy was frustrated the hospital kept saying it was migraines and she knew it wasn't - when Jordan complained of jaw pain, they sent her to a dentist who couldn't find anything wrong - Jordan's joints would ache, but rheumatology would say there was nothing wrong with her - Sandy got more frustrated so took Jordan to another hospital for assessment, they too suggested migraines - Sandy was still working, when Jordan was in the hospital, Sandy would work from her bedside - do her job around doctors, testing, etc
0:27:30
Anthony says it was hard, they didn't know what they were dealing with - sometimes Jordan would grab her neck and Anthony thought it was maybe muscle spasms - when she'd come into the living room to get something to eat, she'd be doubled over, holding her stomach, saying how much pain she was in
0:28:30
To be experiencing that much pain without a proper diagnosis is ridiculous - Jordan missed her sophomore school year, and was on the home study program, but they had to fight to get her proper courses and support to keep Jordan in her honour classes
0:29:30
Jordan missed her friends, and it was hard on her - in July 2017 Jordan was getting increased headaches and had a new lumbar puncture
0:30:30
Sandy told the hematologist that Jordan seemed to be having blood clots in her toes, the doctor dismissed that and said Jordan must have dropped something on her toes to cause the trauma - Sandy explained that was not possible because Jordan was mostly bed ridden - the hospital said that Jordan needed to be taken off Motrin, she was using and abusing it - that night Jordan was vomiting because of the pain
0:31:30
She was admitted to the hospital that same doctor said that Jordan had migraines and needed to be detoxed from Motrin - he told Sandy and Anthony that if they didn't accept his diagnosis of migraines, he would refuse to treat Jordan - meanwhile Jordan is very sick with a forced diagnosis that didn't fit - Sandy told the head nurse that if they are saying it is migraines, then they might as well discharge Jordan - then a neurosurgeon came in and said he reviewed all Jordan's MRIs of the past year and a half and saw that she had enlarged veins since spring 2016
0:32:30
He wanted to angiograms to see if that was causing issues in her brain - an angiogram is a catheter like needle into the body to see what is going on in the venous structure using contrast to show up on images
0:33:30
The neurologist who pushed a migraine diagnosis came in and wanted Jordan's complete history, so they told him about everything from 2014 up to that point - he said he would get a 2nd opinion hematology consult - but he never recorded it in her records and never requested it - he said he would give her a lumbar puncture but if it was a certain number they would have to concede he was right with the migraine diagnosis - Sandy told him what he wanted to hear to get testing and treatment for Jordan
0:34:30
When the numbers came back, Sandy maintained that it was not migraines, something else was making her sick - they discharged Jordan and gave her Motrin - they had one follow up appointment with the neurologist and he suggested it was psychiatric - he referred them to another neurologist and refused to treat Jordan - he followed through on his threat and refused to treat Jordan - they saw the new neurologist in September 2017, at first he mentioned psuedo tumor cerebri, this is alos intracranial hypertension when the brain thinks it has a tumor but it doesn't - he said he'd do some research and talk to them at Jordan's next appointment
0:35:30
Jordan was sicker and ended up back in the ER - they said it was migraines and copy and pasted previous notes that said Jordan was abusing Motrin - they put her on a detox protocol called DHE, a medication to help people withdraw from medications that are harming them - Jordan got sicker, not from the DHE, but from the pain - they also gave her Toradol (like super Motrin), so while they are detoxing her from Motrin, they give her high dose Motrin
0:36:30
The attending doctor said 'it looks like the DHE protocol is working' - Sandy said 'no, you approved Toradol, that's what's helping her, not the DHE protocol' - that doctor said they'll send Toradol home with Jordan - Jordan would be less sick with the Toradol, but after it wore off after 24 hours, she'd get sicker - Jordan had been taking the Motrin as directed
0:37:30
They went back to the neurologist who diagnosed intracranial hypertension, but he changed his diagnosis to migraines and attempted to treat her with migraine meds - they told him that Jordan did not have migraines - he suggested treatment with Botox - Jordan got sick during the appointment and they went across the street to the ER - again they said migraines, again Sandy and Anthony said it wasn't migraines, they gave her Toradol
0:38:30
The attending physician didn't examine Jordan, but asked if anybody had told them that Jordan had an enlarged spleen - Sandy said it had never been mentioned, what does it mean, what's the impact on Jordan - the doctor said 'its probably nothing' and they discharge Jordan with migraines - they went to Jordan's primary care doctor and said the hospital must be missing something - he order more testing, but it was to be done at the hospital, that's where all of Jordan's records were
0:39:30
On February 14, 2018 Jordan had abdominal imaging, ultrasound done - they wouldn't let Jordan leave at first - they asked about Jordan's history of blood clots and the shunts - they said Jordan had to follow up with her primary care right away - Sandy asked if they had to go to the ER, and they said 'no' - on the way home, Sandy called primary to make an appointment - Jordan was to come to primary care in the morning of Feb 16th - at the appointment they told the family that Jordan had 'portal vein thrombosis' which is blood clots leading into the liver
0:40:30
He sent them back to the hospital, they ended up in the ER - at the time they did not know that the person who introduced themselves as a doctor, was actually an unlicensed medical student, with no authority to examine, treat or discharge Jordan - his attending physician supervisor did signed saying she examined Jordan but never did - the 'doctor' said he didn't accept testing not from the hospital, and ordered all the same tests - they confirmed portal vein thrombosis - the 'doctor' said it was a GI issue and referred them to a GI department - Sandy called the GI department, but they refused to do anything while Jordan was in the ER
0:41:30
The GI department said Jordan needed to book a consult - Sandy told them they had previously requested a consult - regardless, they refused to set an appointment - Sandy asked the ER 'doctor' to bring in a GI doc to the ER for Jordan, but he said it wasn't necessary - they also asked that hematology be notified because this was the 3rd appearance of blood clots - again the ER 'doctor' said it was a GI issue and Jordan needed to be seen only as an outpatient - they discharged Jordan and told her parents it was not a life threatening condition
0:42:30
The following Tuesday Sandy called the GI department to make an appointment - they said they would review Jordan's file and call back in 24 - 48 hours with an appointment - but they didn't call until March 2nd - Sandy also called hematology to make sure they been told Jordan had more blood clots - they called back and said they were not told, and to take Jordan to the ER and they would admit her - Jordan was admitted on Feb 20, 2018 to Feb 23 -- on the 21st they wanted to send her home to be an outpatient, but Sandy demanded the GI come see Jordan will she was inpatient
0:43:30
The GI said that wanted to do an endoscopy to see inside her abdomen - they said the results were mild reflux, but nobody could explain the blood clots - Sandy asked 3 different hematologists about cancer testing - one said they could do that test, another indicated he would order them, but never did - the 3rd said cancer testing was unnecessary because her blood tests were normal
0:44:30
This 3rd hematologist is the same one who in 2015 was told to do a cancer differential diagnosis, which he never did - but Jordan's blood work was not normal - they sent Jordan home - on Feb 26th they were back in the ER, Jordan was doubled over in pain - she was seen by a resident doctor who insisted Jordan was constipated and gave Jordan an enema - Jordan felt completely humiliated - and still in pain
0:45:30
The attending physician signed off said she had examined Jordan, but she never came in, they never saw her - she was sent home with constipation medication - on the Feb 27th they called oncology, they advised managing Jordan's pain at home because they had an appointment on the 28th with hematologist and he would admit her to the hospital - on Feb 28th they had their appointment with the hematologist - Sandy begged him to help her - he said it was a GI issue, he could refer her to pain management, and sent her home
0:46:30
He never put that in Jordan's medical notes - that night they called oncology to let them know they were bringing Jordan to the ER and listed her symptoms - when they got to the ER just before midnight - they made Jordan wait for 4 - 5 hours -- Sandy kept letting them know Jordan's pain was very high, but other patients were prioritized, including somebody walking out on crutches from a sprained ankle
0:47:30
Jordan was admitted to the hospital on March 1st - the hospital staff said Jordan was quite sick - Sandy said 'yes, we've been trying to tell you that for 3 years' - on March 4th a new hematologist asked about the cancer testing - she suggested Jordan may have lymphoma and they needed to do further testing - Jordan was being monitored in the ICU
0:48:30
On March 5th Jordan was moved back to onclology and they did a bone marrow biopsy for cancer - on March 6th they were waiting for test results - Jordan was heavily agitated, kept trying to get out of bed - the last words she said to Sandy were "Mom, I just want to go home" - Jordan layed back down and fell asleep - later that night Sandy went to Ronald McDonald house to get some rest
0:49:30
About 30 minutes later the hospital called Sandy to say Jordan was non-responsive and they had administered Narcan - Sandy got back to the hospital and over heard the doctor arguing for the last bed in the ICU - they told Sandy again they had given Jordan Narcan, it is given to someone to reverse an overdose - On March 6th they moved Jordan back to the ICU and said they needed to put Jordan into a medically induced coma to allow time for her to heal
0:50:30
The resident doctor told them that Jordan's ammonia levels were very elevated - Sandy asked how they missed that? - his answer was 'not to focus on placing blame, but to focus on Jordan getting better' - early March 7th they placed a drain in Jordan's abdomen - Instead of draining normally, it was draining into Jordan's abdomen - a couple of hours later the same doctor that was arguing for an ICU bed, told Sandy and Anthony that they were life-lining Jordan to another facility because she needed a liver transplant
0:51:30
So they started to prepare for that - Anthony went home to grab some sleep and Sandy stayed at the hospital with Jordan - at about 8am the ER attending doctor said Jordan was very sick, Sandy said we've been trying to tell you that - during morning rounds, the GI doctor who saw Jordan in Feb, came running in and told the attending hematologist she failed to read Jordan's lab work from weeks prior when Jordan was in the hospital and had alpha one anti trypsin deficiency disorder, and it affects the liver and lungs
0:52:30
The doctor than told Sandy she'd provide more info once Jordan was stable and transferred to another facility - Sandy and Anthony thought the worse was probably over, and the staff never said Jordan was dying - around 8:30 neurosurgery came in and said they needed to remove the shunt tubing from her abdomen because she had an infection and they didn't want it to spread to her brain - so Sandy and Anthony permitted that surgical procedure
0:53:30
Sandy was waiting in the family room right outside the ICU while they performed the procedure - at about 10:40 am while Jordan was still in surgery, a social worker came into the family room and told Sandy that Jordan had 'coded' during the procedure - Sandy remembers running to Jordan and yelling 'you killed my daughter, you killed her' - the social worker asked Sandy what she meant - she said that they'd been bringing Jordan for help and they kept saying migraines
0:54:30
They did CPR for about an hour until Anthony could get to the hospital - they gave Jordan blood products - but they stopped at about 11:40 am - that day they asked Sandy and Anthony if there was anything they needed - Sandy and Anthony asked for the lab reports and testing as they had other children and wanted to know if there was anything they needed to worry about - the hospital said they would get those results to Sandy / Anthony, but they never did - about 2 weeks later, they went to the hospital's patient relations and requested the information again - and filed a complaint
0:55:30
State law says they have to turn over medical records within 15 days, but they didn't hand them over until about 40 days later - when Sandy was going through the records over the next few months, in July 2018 she realized the records were missing a huge chunk of data - so they requested again, and it took another 45 days to get more records - to this day, Sandy and Anthony still don't have all Jordan's medical records - that info was either withheld, or never recorded
0:56:30
In Feb 2019, Sandy and Anthony went to Washington DC for rare disease week - they went because of the rare blood disease Jordan was diagnosed with 6 weeks after her death, called 'primary myelofibrosis', an extremely rare form of leukemia, less then 50 children in the US diagnosed with it - less then 20,000 nationally - someone at rare disease week said something sounded fishy - they were advised to ask if Jordan's death had been reported to any agency
0:57:30
Sandy contacted the California Department of Public Health to see if Jordan's death had been reported - they told Sandy they had no record of Jordan's death - Sandy asked if the hospital was required to report Jordan's death - Sandy was put on hold - she was then recommended to file a complaint - so she did file a complaint - even though Sandy and Anthony have had several conversations with the investigator, they still don't have any info and its been 10 months
0:58:30
It is a state investigation, so red tape, bureaucracy, limited personnel - those things have caused delay - they hope to get more records soon
0:59:30
They had Jordan's GP look at the records, and paid a professional to review and confirm Jordan's eventual diagnsosis of 'primary myelofibrosis' - the hematologist who had suggested lymphoma called Sandy and Anthony on April 23, 2019 and asked if any one had spoken to them about what was going on? - Sandy asked if Jordan's diagnosis had of been caught earlier if Jordan would still be alive, and the hematologist said 'yes' - but never heard from the hematologist again, but knows she left the hospital in April 2019
1:00:30
Sandy researched 'primary myelofibrosis' and life expectancy is up to 10 years after diagnosis - but she could have been cured with stem cell transplants or been in remission and lived a full life - in April the hematologist said she'd written a report and what happened to Jordan - in Sept 2019, Sandy and Anthony found out that the hospital had overdosed Jordan causing her death - and they were not monitoring her as they should have been
1:01:30
Sandy and Anthony think the hematologist report covers an adverse event, and by state law that must be reported, but the hospital chose to cover it up instead of reporting it - in California they have laws that put a low cap on medical malpractice settlements making getting a lawyer impossible because they won't earn any money
1:02:30
So the system is set up so patients can't get justice, and doctors are not held accountable either by the justice system or the state medical board - Sandy and Anthony have not heard from the medical board since they filed their 9 complaints against the providers
1:03:30
Sandy and Anthony asked, in January 2019, the investigator to include another 257 providers associated with hospital or Jordan's care, but they have not heard any thing - Sandy and Anthony have been advocating for reform of the MICRA Act (medical injury compensation reform act of 1975)
1:04:30
MICRA limits compensation to $250,000 due to medical injury or death by medical injury - it also limits how much an attorney can be paid to about $75,000 - but in Jordan's case it would cost about $200,000 to litigate, making it economically infeasible, and that patients can't get justice - there is a current ballot proposal called the Fairness for Injured Patients Act (FIPA) that they want on the November election ballot to overturn MICRA
1:05:30
Sandy and Anthony filed a medical malpractice case in May 2019, naming 22 defendants - they are expecting the defense counsel to do a 'demure', and that is saying the case is unwarranted and why - then Sandy and Anthony will have an opportunity to respond to the 'demure'
1:06:30
Then the case will be heard by a judge who will decide if the case has merit or not - Sandy and Anthony don't have a lawyer, but have consulted with attorneys, but Sandy and Anthony are writing the legal briefs
1:07:30
There are thousands of Californians who've been medically injured who have no recourse - that what the FIPA will remedy - and that is why families are speaking publicly - under the current law, children and the elderly are most vulnerable - Sandy has cashed in all her savings to help pay for things
1:08:30
They have started a <a href='https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-jordan-jordansstory?fbclid=IwAR1gA2h7qrrQzbx3RAEnTb9DPT4WFsWJcWRdw503nc-IqHNnSlNAfeb0_aU'>GoFundMe</a> page to help with legal bills they will occur
1:09:30
Sandy is up and down emotionally - she has a lot of work today in addition to her day time job - reviewing files, preparing legal documents, being a wife and mother - but Sandy doesn't feel like she's had a chance to grieve the loss of her daughter - Sandy and Athony are making meaning through advocacy in Jordan's name - they want to make sure the hospital doesn't kill more people -- they use #JordansStory on twitter and Facebook
1:10:30
Sandy says if you're sick, or a caregiver, and you don't believe the doctors, push back, seek 2nd, 3rd or 10th opinions if you have to -- the doctors told Sandy and Anthony that there is so much info about diseases, they don't even know 1/ 10th of it - so don't let them discourage you, and ask them to have conversations about your own research - don't let them disparage you, don't let them chide you, don't let them discourage you from doing your own research and asking your own questions
 
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Sandy and Anthony Perez kept telling doctors their daughter Jordan was very sick. Their concerns were dismissed and Jordan’s pain minimized. They were ping-ponged between specialists, dealing with ongoing misdiagnosis, and doctors who refused to listen to Jordan and her parents and threatened to remove medical care.
When Jordan died in the hospital, Sandy and Anthony thought it was due to a yet to be diagnosed illness. Only later would they find out Jordan had been poisoned to death by the hospital and they were covering it up. 
Wanting justice for Jordan, Sandy and Anthony sought legal support - over 100 lawyers told them the same thing: California has a law that effectively makes hiring a lawyer for medical malpractice suits a non-starter: the law puts a cap on how much lawyers can be paid and how much victims can be awarded. Suing is a money losing proposition.
As Sandy and Anthony learned, the legal system is set up to deny justice to medical victims, and the medical system is set up to deny accountability of doctors. A de facto license to kill.
Jordan shouldn’t have died. 
Sandy and Anthony shouldn’t have to fight to find out how the hospital killed their daughter.
Jordan's drawing, titled: Will you remember me?
SHOW NOTES:
 
Interviewing Sandy and Anthony Perez about their daughter Jordan
0:05:30
Sandy was born outside of Chicago, but raised in California since she was 7 - had a normal childhood with 3 sisters - went to college - met Anthony in 1994
0:06:30
Anthony was born and raised in California - good childhood with great mom and dad - their daughter Jordan was born April 5th, 2000 - she was a cranky baby, didn't want to sleep unless being held, always wanted to sleep with them
0:07:30
She was a one-off child, liked to do things her way - she liked to dress herself, there was no arguing with her - she played soft ball since age 4 and made the city's all-star team for 2 years - and her Dad (Anthony) coached her - when they moved to the high desert, they put Jordan in 'travel ball' - a more intense game softball league
0:08:30
The league had better quality coaches and was geared to show to colleges - it is called 'travel ball' because they traveled to and played in different cities - Jordan was the kid who would befriend others - at Jordan's memorial service, several of her friends spoke of how they were alone but Jordan invited them to play
0:09:30
It was very important to Jordan that others felt included and were not left out - in May 2014 Jordan started to complain of headaches - Jordan had allergies, including grass, but benadryul helped - then her neck started to hurt - in December 2014 she went to the doctor with neck and head pain
0:10:30
Jordan was suspected to have mastoiditis (infection in the masto bone behind the ear) and sent her to the ER - they didn't find anything, didn't run any blood tests, suggested it was migraines and sent Jordan home - a couple of weeks later Jordan had symptoms of the flu, couldn't keep fluid or food down, so they took her to the ER - they told the ER doc about the previous mastioditis diagnosis, so they ran more tests and found blood clots in Jordan's brain
0:11:30
They sent them to another trauma centre and that is where Jordan was treated for the next 3.5 years - they were frightened and wondering how it could've been missed - blood clots don't usually show up on CAT scans, but they did in Jordan
0:12:30
They were told the blood clots were a rare complication from the infection in the masto bones - Sandy and Anthony asked how Jordan could've gotten mastoiditis, and were told via infection of the sinus or ear - but Jordan didn't have those infections, so how could that be? But nobody could answer that - the hospital put Jordan on a hepadrin drip for a day and then changed to lovonox injections - both are blood thinners to more blood clots, but wouldn't treat Jordan's current blood clots
0:13:30
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        <title>Tina Gomes: Dentists on Probation: What You Don't Know Can Harm or Kill You.</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Singer, songwriter and talent manager Tina Gomes of California needed a dentist for a straightforward procedure. She searched for Board Certified dentists and made an appointment. What she didn’t know -- because the Dental Board failed to inform the public -- was that the dentist had harmed previous patients and was on probation.</p>
<p>Tina would only find all of this out after spending 10s of 1000s of dollars and enduring years of needless headaches, jaw pain, infections, ill health and inability to chew solid food. As you will hear, Tina was betrayed not only by the dentist, but the Dental Board and the Attorney General as they chose their own profits over her, and the public’s, safety.</p>
<p>Tina learned the hard way that dentists can take sketchy continuing education courses - like a 6 hour course on a weekend on anaesthesia. Recently a patient died in the dental chair due to anaesthesia complications. These dentists start practicing these ‘procedures’ on unwitting patients -- essentially making them guinea pigs, these ‘procedures’ often require ongoing fixes and devices, turning dental clients into perpetual patients.</p>
<p>Tina discovered that the dentistry industry is not about accountability, or oversight, or patient safety -- dentistry is about increasing profits for dentists, Dental Boards, and Attorney Generals on the backs of - and out of the pockets of - patients.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES

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0:05:00
Tina grew up Vancouver, Canada - wonderful parents, they were immigrants from Portugal - provided comfortable childhood - there are a lot of people who did not have good parents like Tina so she's grateful
0:06:00
Tina has 2 siblings, both sisters, the 3 of them were born 1 year apart - but one sister died in a car accident the night of her high school graduation party - Tina's older sister lives in Alberta, Canada
0:07:00
Tina moved to California when she was offered a record deal by Richard Perry - people in the inustry know his reputation - Tina's father was a phenomenal opera singer
0:08:00
A lot of music in their house - in Vancouver, her boyfriend was in a rock band and when Tina sang he said she should be performing - Tina wanted to be a songwriter, not singer - song writing is a solitary endeavour
0:09:00
So Tina started singing and they covered other band's hits and played in a lot rock clubs and was noticed by Rae Dawn Chong, her father is Tommy Chong, and he's part of the iconic Cheech and Chong comedy duo - Rae Dawn 'discovered' Tina, and said they'd form a band with Rae Dawn's cousin Lavina Fox and go to Los Angeles and sign a record deal with Warner Bros
0:10:00
Tina started working with Richard Perry and staying at his home, formerly Elizabeth Taylor's home - but Rae Dawn left the group for a movie deal
0:11:00
But Tina had met other singer / songwriters who wanted to work with Tina - she also met the man who would later become her husband, and he introduced her to more producers - Tina also met Jesse Powell and his family and became close friends - Jesse produced a song with Damon Thomas who is Kim Kardashian's ex-husband
0:12:00
Tina knew she didn't want to be an on stage singer, she wanted to help Jesse because she thought he was the greatest talent - so Tina decided to manage Jesse and get him a record deal and that brought joy to Tina's life
0:13:00
Tina managed his career to be #1 on Billboard and she found more talent to manage - so fulfilling to be around such talent - Tina felt blessed to be doing the work with those talented people
0:14:00
That's what Tina did for years, while also struggling with dental issues that started in 1992 - one day Tina and her husband went to a Malibu restaurant and one of her front crowns broke off - they went home and searched for a board certified dentist
0:15:00
They contacted a dentist to see if he could see Tina immediately just fix her crown - Sarah has to compose herself and explains that PTSD is impacting her ability to tell what happened...things she's trying to forget
0:16:00
Tina put her trust in the dentist, and so her husband trusted the dentist - the dentist made a recommendation to replace her sorrounding teeth so everything matched - biggest mistaked Tina made - he upsold Tina on the dental work he'd do - but the crown he made kept falling out, so he made a bridge, but that started damaging the neighbouring teeth, and so he gave Tina a bigger bridge
0:17:00
Tina was working and traveling a lot representing her clients, but she never felt like a normal person with crowns falling out - she returned to the dentist and he's blame Tina "Are you chewing rocks?"
0:18:00
The work he did would be okay for a short while, but then Tina had to revert to drinking smoothies, soup, foods she didn't have to chew, but they kept falling out and she kept returning to him for repairs - but that resulted in infection and everything would have to come off her teeth
0:19:00
With Tina's job/travel demands, it seemed easiest to keep seeing him - Tina compromised and adjusted to the smile he created - as all dentists expect patients do - they want to take your mouth, recreate it, profit it from it, and say it is better for you - that's the way they operate, especially since the continuing education courses are centered around marketing
0:20:00
In California, a dentist can take a 6 hour course on a weekend and start using anaesthesia on their patients, and they don't even have liability insurance - It is not about the patients care or safety - they take your natural teeth and recreate what they say is a more healthy smile with manfactured teetch - that compromises how the body heals naturally - but it is the dentist's mouth at that point, relying on some continuing education course
0:21:00
This went on for 12 years - Tina become good friends with the dental assistant and her family, the dentist and his family because Tina spent so much time in the dental chair with the dentist
0:22:00
Tina was essentially his experimental subject of a continuing education course, a billion dollar industry - Tina found out the dentist had been lying when she sued him - Tina was increcibly sick and in a lot of pain - covering her mouth in public because she was embarassed
0:23:00
Tina had invested 10s of 1000s of dollars with the dentist she trusted - Tina's husband didn't trust him and fought with the dentist - Tina just wanted to be healthy but her mouth was infected - but the dentist touted himself and bragged about his awards and advanced treatment
0:24:00
He positioned himself above all other dentists - he was concerned Tina's bite was off, but it wasn't off - Tina had moved from another country to succeed in the music industry and her 'bite' never bothered her until he got into her mouth - he only had to take care of her teeth, she didn't have any when he was finished
0:25:00
Tina was so sick, her weight got dangerously low and she was hospitalized - for months she lived on liquid foods - Tina loved salads but couldn't eat anything crunchy any more - she kept going to the gym to deal with the anxiety
0:26:00
When the TMJ gets out of place, the body tries to adjust and people grind their teeth - Tina went through countless crowns, dental pieces, etc - her dental record looks like an encyclopedia it is so lengthy - she knows she'll never be able to chew food again
0:27:00
Because she grinded her teeth during sleep, the crowns, bridges etc would fall off and she would call him in the morning begging him to see her immediately so she could go to meetings - when she sued him, he delayed handing over her dental records for 3 months, and told the Dental Board he lost all her records in a computer crash
0:28:00
Tina started to research the history of her dentist, a man she completely trusted with her health - but found out there are 100s of victims just in the state of California
0:29:00
Even though the Dental Board deems a dentist incompetent in court documents, they can continue to practice dentistry due to an 'apparatus of compromise' deal with the Dental Board as long as they pay the Attorney General fees, including investigative fees to the Dental Board
0:30:00
They all start collecting these investigative fees once the decide they will investigate a complaint, it is a huge money mill
0:31:00
If the investigators and Dental Boad decide they are going to file a Accusation with the Attorney General - Tina's dentist was already under investigation for harming several patients doing the same procedure he did to Tina - and to a surgery she never agreed to - but none of his patients were informed about the Investigation or Accusation
0:32:00
The Dental Board was so incompetent they never posted his probationary status on their website, which is their duty and they promised to tax payers that pay into the fund that allows them to sit on the Board and decide how to protect patients - it is a scam
0:33:00
They collectively made money by keeping his Investigation a secret and are still profiting today - there is not one patient in that dentist's office right now that know about his history, or what he did to Tina, and he's still practicing
0:34:00
The Dental Board spends more time concealing harmful patterns in concert with the Attorney General's office - they don't make a lot of money off of good dentists, they make a lot of money keeping bad dentists licensed so they pay high fees - as dental patients, we are investing in our health with high risk dentists because there is very little over sight, they are self regulated
0:35:00
Tina won her lawsuit, but uses air quotes around 'won' - because her lawyer coached her to accept a low figure settlement
0:36:00
Tina is not happy about the settlement, she feels 'raped' - there is a $250,000 cap on settlements / awards - the reality is that Tina is in just as much pain today as when she walked into the dentist's office and faces a 5th surgery to repoir his mess
9:37:00
The most important thing Tina can do now, because her loss is something she has to face every day, but is managing it well, because there was a time when things were more difficult - Tina wants to be there to give guidance, because there was no one for her - the Dental Board and Attorney General work in concert to make sure the patterns of harm by dentists is not available at the place and time of treatment
0:38:00
Tina's Bill Proposal says that patients must be informed at the place and time of treatment if the dentist is on probation - Tina's dentist was on probation and that was a huge risk to her health and finances
0:39:00
Both the Dental Board and Attorney General are making money on probation dentists, so patient safety is not a priority - every Dental Board in every state advertises that if there is a conditional status of a dentist, it must be posted on the website - but ther is no gaurantee that will happen, Tina is living proof
0:40:00
That is another way they are protecting their own interests, not the patient - but they've turned the mouth into marketing options - including 'neuromuscular dentistry' which is just the worse - Tina is working with a patient now with a beautiful smile who was convinced her bite was off
0:41:00
There are no reasons to charge her to come in to make adjustements to her perfectly healthy teeth - but they convinced her that her bite was off and she would be more comfortable and beautiful after the procedure, less pain, sleep better, breath better
0:42:00
Doctors and dentists can sell you almost anything, they are into upselling their products and services because it helps their business, not your teeth - in 2010 the Senate Oversight Hearing Committe asked Tina to come and speak at the sunset review of the Dental Board, but it was a huge sham
0:43:00
They were eating cake while patients testified about serious dental harm, like with anaesthesia and the patient died in the dental chair - it was the worse thing Tina saw -- but Tina has former Dental Board members helping her, they want her to expose the truth - and telling every body patients are not safe - and that is not fair to the really good dentists
0:44:00
Tina doesn't believe that probationary dentists who pay big fees to the Dental Board and Attorney General will change their harmful practices - the patients they harmed were assaulted - and continuing education courses are marketed to get perpetual patients to make more money
0:45:00
It will also fund the research labs, they are a billion dollar industry - Tina says that anyone with healthy teeth should never get cosmetic enhancement - advertising on ABC (tv channel) and the ADA permit its promotion - the Attorney General is responsible for patient safety, they should be stepping in to stop the influence through tv media
0:46:00
They are motivating dentists by dollars - Congress is motivated by big pharma dollars - money is the priority - when you're choosing which dentist you're going to go see, you're really choosing which risk - how much are you willing to lose? - some Dentists offer 'care credit', a credit card to pay for dental work
0:47:00
The patient may take the credit card for $5000 worth of work, but the dentist gets busy on $10,000 worth of work - the dentists are not caring for your teeth, they are caring for their dental device
0:48:00
The former West Virginia Attorney General, who is the World Health Organziation's President for Mercury Free Dentistry wrote Tina's Bill - but Tina feels like a failure because there is every effort to ensure a patient doesn't know their dentist is on probation
0:49:00
A Bill was recently passed that only applied to doctors, not dentists, and the Bill required doctors to tell their patients if they were on probation for a 'serious crime' like sexual misconduct - but if you go to a dentist and he removes all your teeth, causes constant pain and sickness because you can't chew food, that's a pretty serious crime - but they kept dentists out of the law
0:50:00
Tina feels like a failure because even though she had great support from highly respected people with influence in government, but here we still are today
0:51:00
Tina doesn't feel like she's up against the 'dental machine' but is up against crooks - it us uncivilized for a government agency to tell the public they are protecting them - but cover up and don't inform patients - so its not a big machine, it is a few people on Dental Boards in each state - and they profit from dentists on probation
0:52:00
These few board members are charged with the duty to protect patients - the goverment isn't bad, it is made up of bad people
0:53:00
This is how a bill gets passed that protects the bad secrets - using tax payers dollars - we're supposed to trust the government - in spite of Tina's great efforts legally and via media...
0:54:00
...the government flagrantly ignores their duty to protect the public - the ADA (American Dental Association) advertises they protect patients, that is false advertising
0:55:00
Tina was interviewd by Cecilia Vega of the tv news show 20/20 - but the interview was 'shelved' - Tina hopes they will air it one day
0:56:00
One of the producers called Tina to tell her it wouldn't be aired - Tina asked 'what happened?' - but they didn't give any type of reason - but it was at the same time Governor Jerry Brown was trying to pass a bill for adequate notification about doctors on probation, but it didn't include dentists
0:57:00
Tina did receive an apology from her Dental Board for not posting her dentist's probation status on their website and he had harmed several patients before Tina - a lot of money is made by the Dental Board, Attorney General's office, Probation Monitor - in California they don't have to have liability insurance
0:58:00
The cost of surgery to repair the former dentist's mess was $50,000 - but Tina didn't trust dentists, didn't want to go through another surgery, but only weighed 89 pounds
0:59:00
Tina is not giving up on Tina's Bill - she has so many people contact her for help and advice - and she can't turn her back on them either - Tina thinks she may have another surgery - she tried bone grafting twice, they failed - a lot of bone removed, teeth all removed - she was robbed of all those years of health, and to have a health senior life
1:00:00
Tina grinds her teeth at night and that causes headaches every day, a lot swelling - Tina avoids drugs but had to take acetominophen for a few months because she had adhesive encapsulitis with bilateral tendonopathy - the tendons from both shoulders limits Tina' mobility, but she's in physio therapy for that - but the pain goes up into the TMJ (jaw), pain she's had for all these decades
1:01:00
The pain goes down to her chin, because it is all connected - the next surgery will the last because she doesn't have enough bone left for implants - the nerves in her face are exposed and if those nerves were cut she'd loose use of her tongue, drool, impaired speech
1:02:00
A lot of victims don't like to eat in public because of embarrassment - even a simple kiss with someone you love is gone - the whole time Tina is speaking to me she says she feels like she looks like a monster
1:03:00
It is unfair and uncivilized to permit Dental Boards to license someone they would never put their children in that dental chair - Tina knows one woman who is now bed ridden - her parents have to help her with basic functioning - Tina helped her get an attorney
1:04:00
Tina finds reading and going to the beach and ocean therapeutic - she writes her problems in the sand and then a wave comes and washes it away
1:05:00
You can connect with Tina on Facebook at Tina's Bill Proposal - she posts substantive info there that Dental Boards and the ADA don't
1:06:00
If lettuce is making people sick, great strides are made to protect people, but if its dental, it is covered up and kept quiet
<p>Connect with Tina Gomes - <a href='https://www.facebook.com/ALLPATIENTSMUSTBEINFORMED/'>Tina's Bill Proposal on Facebook</a></p>
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<p>Tina would only find all of this out after spending 10s of 1000s of dollars and enduring years of needless headaches, jaw pain, infections, ill health and inability to chew solid food. As you will hear, Tina was betrayed not only by the dentist, but the Dental Board and the Attorney General as they chose their own profits over her, and the public’s, safety.</p>
<p>Tina learned the hard way that dentists can take sketchy continuing education courses - like a 6 hour course on a weekend on anaesthesia. Recently a patient died in the dental chair due to anaesthesia complications. These dentists start practicing these ‘procedures’ on unwitting patients -- essentially making them guinea pigs, these ‘procedures’ often require ongoing fixes and devices, turning dental clients into perpetual patients.</p>
<p>Tina discovered that the dentistry industry is not about accountability, or oversight, or patient safety -- dentistry is about increasing profits for dentists, Dental Boards, and Attorney Generals on the backs of - and out of the pockets of - patients.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES<br>
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0:05:00
Tina grew up Vancouver, Canada - wonderful parents, they were immigrants from Portugal - provided comfortable childhood - there are a lot of people who did not have good parents like Tina so she's grateful
0:06:00
Tina has 2 siblings, both sisters, the 3 of them were born 1 year apart - but one sister died in a car accident the night of her high school graduation party - Tina's older sister lives in Alberta, Canada
0:07:00
Tina moved to California when she was offered a record deal by Richard Perry - people in the inustry know his reputation - Tina's father was a phenomenal opera singer
0:08:00
A lot of music in their house - in Vancouver, her boyfriend was in a rock band and when Tina sang he said she should be performing - Tina wanted to be a songwriter, not singer - song writing is a solitary endeavour
0:09:00
So Tina started singing and they covered other band's hits and played in a lot rock clubs and was noticed by Rae Dawn Chong, her father is Tommy Chong, and he's part of the iconic Cheech and Chong comedy duo - Rae Dawn 'discovered' Tina, and said they'd form a band with Rae Dawn's cousin Lavina Fox and go to Los Angeles and sign a record deal with Warner Bros
0:10:00
Tina started working with Richard Perry and staying at his home, formerly Elizabeth Taylor's home - but Rae Dawn left the group for a movie deal
0:11:00
But Tina had met other singer / songwriters who wanted to work with Tina - she also met the man who would later become her husband, and he introduced her to more producers - Tina also met Jesse Powell and his family and became close friends - Jesse produced a song with Damon Thomas who is Kim Kardashian's ex-husband
0:12:00
Tina knew she didn't want to be an on stage singer, she wanted to help Jesse because she thought he was the greatest talent - so Tina decided to manage Jesse and get him a record deal and that brought joy to Tina's life
0:13:00
Tina managed his career to be #1 on Billboard and she found more talent to manage - so fulfilling to be around such talent - Tina felt blessed to be doing the work with those talented people
0:14:00
That's what Tina did for years, while also struggling with dental issues that started in 1992 - one day Tina and her husband went to a Malibu restaurant and one of her front crowns broke off - they went home and searched for a board certified dentist
0:15:00
They contacted a dentist to see if he could see Tina immediately just fix her crown - Sarah has to compose herself and explains that PTSD is impacting her ability to tell what happened...things she's trying to forget
0:16:00
Tina put her trust in the dentist, and so her husband trusted the dentist - the dentist made a recommendation to replace her sorrounding teeth so everything matched - biggest mistaked Tina made - he upsold Tina on the dental work he'd do - but the crown he made kept falling out, so he made a bridge, but that started damaging the neighbouring teeth, and so he gave Tina a bigger bridge
0:17:00
Tina was working and traveling a lot representing her clients, but she never felt like a normal person with crowns falling out - she returned to the dentist and he's blame Tina "Are you chewing rocks?"
0:18:00
The work he did would be okay for a short while, but then Tina had to revert to drinking smoothies, soup, foods she didn't have to chew, but they kept falling out and she kept returning to him for repairs - but that resulted in infection and everything would have to come off her teeth
0:19:00
With Tina's job/travel demands, it seemed easiest to keep seeing him - Tina compromised and adjusted to the smile he created - as all dentists expect patients do - they want to take your mouth, recreate it, profit it from it, and say it is better for you - that's the way they operate, especially since the continuing education courses are centered around marketing
0:20:00
In California, a dentist can take a 6 hour course on a weekend and start using anaesthesia on their patients, and they don't even have liability insurance - It is not about the patients care or safety - they take your natural teeth and recreate what they say is a more healthy smile with manfactured teetch - that compromises how the body heals naturally - but it is the dentist's mouth at that point, relying on some continuing education course
0:21:00
This went on for 12 years - Tina become good friends with the dental assistant and her family, the dentist and his family because Tina spent so much time in the dental chair with the dentist
0:22:00
Tina was essentially his experimental subject of a continuing education course, a billion dollar industry - Tina found out the dentist had been lying when she sued him - Tina was increcibly sick and in a lot of pain - covering her mouth in public because she was embarassed
0:23:00
Tina had invested 10s of 1000s of dollars with the dentist she trusted - Tina's husband didn't trust him and fought with the dentist - Tina just wanted to be healthy but her mouth was infected - but the dentist touted himself and bragged about his awards and advanced treatment
0:24:00
He positioned himself above all other dentists - he was concerned Tina's bite was off, but it wasn't off - Tina had moved from another country to succeed in the music industry and her 'bite' never bothered her until he got into her mouth - he only had to take care of her teeth, she didn't have any when he was finished
0:25:00
Tina was so sick, her weight got dangerously low and she was hospitalized - for months she lived on liquid foods - Tina loved salads but couldn't eat anything crunchy any more - she kept going to the gym to deal with the anxiety
0:26:00
When the TMJ gets out of place, the body tries to adjust and people grind their teeth - Tina went through countless crowns, dental pieces, etc - her dental record looks like an encyclopedia it is so lengthy - she knows she'll never be able to chew food again
0:27:00
Because she grinded her teeth during sleep, the crowns, bridges etc would fall off and she would call him in the morning begging him to see her immediately so she could go to meetings - when she sued him, he delayed handing over her dental records for 3 months, and told the Dental Board he lost all her records in a computer crash
0:28:00
Tina started to research the history of her dentist, a man she completely trusted with her health - but found out there are 100s of victims just in the state of California
0:29:00
Even though the Dental Board deems a dentist incompetent in court documents, they can continue to practice dentistry due to an 'apparatus of compromise' deal with the Dental Board as long as they pay the Attorney General fees, including investigative fees to the Dental Board
0:30:00
They all start collecting these investigative fees once the decide they will investigate a complaint, it is a huge money mill
0:31:00
If the investigators and Dental Boad decide they are going to file a Accusation with the Attorney General - Tina's dentist was already under investigation for harming several patients doing the same procedure he did to Tina - and to a surgery she never agreed to - but none of his patients were informed about the Investigation or Accusation
0:32:00
The Dental Board was so incompetent they never posted his probationary status on their website, which is their duty and they promised to tax payers that pay into the fund that allows them to sit on the Board and decide how to protect patients - it is a scam
0:33:00
They collectively made money by keeping his Investigation a secret and are still profiting today - there is not one patient in that dentist's office right now that know about his history, or what he did to Tina, and he's still practicing
0:34:00
The Dental Board spends more time concealing harmful patterns in concert with the Attorney General's office - they don't make a lot of money off of good dentists, they make a lot of money keeping bad dentists licensed so they pay high fees - as dental patients, we are investing in our health with high risk dentists because there is very little over sight, they are self regulated
0:35:00
Tina won her lawsuit, but uses air quotes around 'won' - because her lawyer coached her to accept a low figure settlement
0:36:00
Tina is not happy about the settlement, she feels 'raped' - there is a $250,000 cap on settlements / awards - the reality is that Tina is in just as much pain today as when she walked into the dentist's office and faces a 5th surgery to repoir his mess
9:37:00
The most important thing Tina can do now, because her loss is something she has to face every day, but is managing it well, because there was a time when things were more difficult - Tina wants to be there to give guidance, because there was no one for her - the Dental Board and Attorney General work in concert to make sure the patterns of harm by dentists is not available at the place and time of treatment
0:38:00
Tina's Bill Proposal says that patients must be informed at the place and time of treatment if the dentist is on probation - Tina's dentist was on probation and that was a huge risk to her health and finances
0:39:00
Both the Dental Board and Attorney General are making money on probation dentists, so patient safety is not a priority - every Dental Board in every state advertises that if there is a conditional status of a dentist, it must be posted on the website - but ther is no gaurantee that will happen, Tina is living proof
0:40:00
That is another way they are protecting their own interests, not the patient - but they've turned the mouth into marketing options - including 'neuromuscular dentistry' which is just the worse - Tina is working with a patient now with a beautiful smile who was convinced her bite was off
0:41:00
There are no reasons to charge her to come in to make adjustements to her perfectly healthy teeth - but they convinced her that her bite was off and she would be more comfortable and beautiful after the procedure, less pain, sleep better, breath better
0:42:00
Doctors and dentists can sell you almost anything, they are into upselling their products and services because it helps their business, not your teeth - in 2010 the Senate Oversight Hearing Committe asked Tina to come and speak at the sunset review of the Dental Board, but it was a huge sham
0:43:00
They were eating cake while patients testified about serious dental harm, like with anaesthesia and the patient died in the dental chair - it was the worse thing Tina saw -- but Tina has former Dental Board members helping her, they want her to expose the truth - and telling every body patients are not safe - and that is not fair to the really good dentists
0:44:00
Tina doesn't believe that probationary dentists who pay big fees to the Dental Board and Attorney General will change their harmful practices - the patients they harmed were assaulted - and continuing education courses are marketed to get perpetual patients to make more money
0:45:00
It will also fund the research labs, they are a billion dollar industry - Tina says that anyone with healthy teeth should never get cosmetic enhancement - advertising on ABC (tv channel) and the ADA permit its promotion - the Attorney General is responsible for patient safety, they should be stepping in to stop the influence through tv media
0:46:00
They are motivating dentists by dollars - Congress is motivated by big pharma dollars - money is the priority - when you're choosing which dentist you're going to go see, you're really choosing which risk - how much are you willing to lose? - some Dentists offer 'care credit', a credit card to pay for dental work
0:47:00
The patient may take the credit card for $5000 worth of work, but the dentist gets busy on $10,000 worth of work - the dentists are not caring for your teeth, they are caring for their dental device
0:48:00
The former West Virginia Attorney General, who is the World Health Organziation's President for Mercury Free Dentistry wrote Tina's Bill - but Tina feels like a failure because there is every effort to ensure a patient doesn't know their dentist is on probation
0:49:00
A Bill was recently passed that only applied to doctors, not dentists, and the Bill required doctors to tell their patients if they were on probation for a 'serious crime' like sexual misconduct - but if you go to a dentist and he removes all your teeth, causes constant pain and sickness because you can't chew food, that's a pretty serious crime - but they kept dentists out of the law
0:50:00
Tina feels like a failure because even though she had great support from highly respected people with influence in government, but here we still are today
0:51:00
Tina doesn't feel like she's up against the 'dental machine' but is up against crooks - it us uncivilized for a government agency to tell the public they are protecting them - but cover up and don't inform patients - so its not a big machine, it is a few people on Dental Boards in each state - and they profit from dentists on probation
0:52:00
These few board members are charged with the duty to protect patients - the goverment isn't bad, it is made up of bad people
0:53:00
This is how a bill gets passed that protects the bad secrets - using tax payers dollars - we're supposed to trust the government - in spite of Tina's great efforts legally and via media...
0:54:00
...the government flagrantly ignores their duty to protect the public - the ADA (American Dental Association) advertises they protect patients, that is false advertising
0:55:00
Tina was interviewd by Cecilia Vega of the tv news show 20/20 - but the interview was 'shelved' - Tina hopes they will air it one day
0:56:00
One of the producers called Tina to tell her it wouldn't be aired - Tina asked 'what happened?' - but they didn't give any type of reason - but it was at the same time Governor Jerry Brown was trying to pass a bill for adequate notification about doctors on probation, but it didn't include dentists
0:57:00
Tina did receive an apology from her Dental Board for not posting her dentist's probation status on their website and he had harmed several patients before Tina - a lot of money is made by the Dental Board, Attorney General's office, Probation Monitor - in California they don't have to have liability insurance
0:58:00
The cost of surgery to repair the former dentist's mess was $50,000 - but Tina didn't trust dentists, didn't want to go through another surgery, but only weighed 89 pounds
0:59:00
Tina is not giving up on Tina's Bill - she has so many people contact her for help and advice - and she can't turn her back on them either - Tina thinks she may have another surgery - she tried bone grafting twice, they failed - a lot of bone removed, teeth all removed - she was robbed of all those years of health, and to have a health senior life
1:00:00
Tina grinds her teeth at night and that causes headaches every day, a lot swelling - Tina avoids drugs but had to take acetominophen for a few months because she had adhesive encapsulitis with bilateral tendonopathy - the tendons from both shoulders limits Tina' mobility, but she's in physio therapy for that - but the pain goes up into the TMJ (jaw), pain she's had for all these decades
1:01:00
The pain goes down to her chin, because it is all connected - the next surgery will the last because she doesn't have enough bone left for implants - the nerves in her face are exposed and if those nerves were cut she'd loose use of her tongue, drool, impaired speech
1:02:00
A lot of victims don't like to eat in public because of embarrassment - even a simple kiss with someone you love is gone - the whole time Tina is speaking to me she says she feels like she looks like a monster
1:03:00
It is unfair and uncivilized to permit Dental Boards to license someone they would never put their children in that dental chair - Tina knows one woman who is now bed ridden - her parents have to help her with basic functioning - Tina helped her get an attorney
1:04:00
Tina finds reading and going to the beach and ocean therapeutic - she writes her problems in the sand and then a wave comes and washes it away
1:05:00
You can connect with Tina on Facebook at Tina's Bill Proposal - she posts substantive info there that Dental Boards and the ADA don't
1:06:00
If lettuce is making people sick, great strides are made to protect people, but if its dental, it is covered up and kept quiet
<p>Connect with Tina Gomes - <a href='https://www.facebook.com/ALLPATIENTSMUSTBEINFORMED/'>Tina's Bill Proposal on Facebook</a></p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Singer, songwriter and talent manager Tina Gomes of California needed a dentist for a straightforward procedure. She searched for Board Certified dentists and made an appointment. What she didn’t know -- because the Dental Board failed to inform the public -- was that the dentist had harmed previous patients and was on probation.
Tina would only find all of this out after spending 10s of 1000s of dollars and enduring years of needless headaches, jaw pain, infections, ill health and inability to chew solid food. As you will hear, Tina was betrayed not only by the dentist, but the Dental Board and the Attorney General as they chose their own profits over her, and the public’s, safety.
Tina learned the hard way that dentists can take sketchy continuing education courses - like a 6 hour course on a weekend on anaesthesia. Recently a patient died in the dental chair due to anaesthesia complications. These dentists start practicing these ‘procedures’ on unwitting patients -- essentially making them guinea pigs, these ‘procedures’ often require ongoing fixes and devices, turning dental clients into perpetual patients.
Tina discovered that the dentistry industry is not about accountability, or oversight, or patient safety -- dentistry is about increasing profits for dentists, Dental Boards, and Attorney Generals on the backs of - and out of the pockets of - patients.
SHOW NOTES
0:05:00
Tina grew up Vancouver, Canada - wonderful parents, they were immigrants from Portugal - provided comfortable childhood - there are a lot of people who did not have good parents like Tina so she's grateful
0:06:00
Tina has 2 siblings, both sisters, the 3 of them were born 1 year apart - but one sister died in a car accident the night of her high school graduation party - Tina's older sister lives in Alberta, Canada
0:07:00
Tina moved to California when she was offered a record deal by Richard Perry - people in the inustry know his reputation - Tina's father was a phenomenal opera singer
0:08:00
A lot of music in their house - in Vancouver, her boyfriend was in a rock band and when Tina sang he said she should be performing - Tina wanted to be a songwriter, not singer - song writing is a solitary endeavour
0:09:00
So Tina started singing and they covered other band's hits and played in a lot rock clubs and was noticed by Rae Dawn Chong, her father is Tommy Chong, and he's part of the iconic Cheech and Chong comedy duo - Rae Dawn 'discovered' Tina, and said they'd form a band with Rae Dawn's cousin Lavina Fox and go to Los Angeles and sign a record deal with Warner Bros
0:10:00
Tina started working with Richard Perry and staying at his home, formerly Elizabeth Taylor's home - but Rae Dawn left the group for a movie deal
0:11:00
But Tina had met other singer / songwriters who wanted to work with Tina - she also met the man who would later become her husband, and he introduced her to more producers - Tina also met Jesse Powell and his family and became close friends - Jesse produced a song with Damon Thomas who is Kim Kardashian's ex-husband
0:12:00
Tina knew she didn't want to be an on stage singer, she wanted to help Jesse because she thought he was the greatest talent - so Tina decided to manage Jesse and get him a record deal and that brought joy to Tina's life
0:13:00
Tina managed his career to be #1 on Billboard and she found more talent to manage - so fulfilling to be around such talent - Tina felt blessed to be doing the work with those talented people
0:14:00
That's what Tina did for years, while also struggling with dental issues that started in 1992 - one day Tina and her husband went to a Malibu restaurant and one of her front crowns broke off - they went home and searched for a board certified dentist
0:15:00
They contacted a dentist to see if he could see Tina immediately just fix her crown - Sarah has to compose herself and explains that PTSD is impacting her ability to tell what happened...things she's trying to forget
0:16:00
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        <title>Sarah Price Hancock interview (part 3): Surviving Shock Treatment (ECT) and Psychiatric Medications</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>It is hard to know where to start in describing what Sarah shares in part 3 of our interview. Sarah imparts so much info about things that helped her regain health - and may help you, and things that hurt her health- and may hurt you.</p>
<p>Sarah tells how a correct diagnosis and stopping inappropriate psych meds, resulted in losing 100+ pounds and get back to her high school weight.</p>
<p>She tells about how when she started to treat her liver, even though her liver tests were ‘normal’, her health and quality of life improved.</p>
<p>Perhaps most importantly, Sarah tells about finding a doctor who approaches psychiatric issues as an autoimmune and toxicity problem, and addresses it with appropriate nutrient support. </p>
<p>This is what stopped the voices in her head that were telling her to kill herself 24/7. </p>
<p>Sarah also tells how when she got a kidney infection and needed antibiotics, the psychosis and voices in her head returned. What did the psychiatrist want to do? Give her psych meds of course. Every symptom looks like a nail if your only approach is to use the hammer of psych meds.</p>
<p>Sarah says we need to encourage psychiatry to get back to their roots of orthomolecular approach - trauma cannot be treated with ECT or psych meds - research shows trauma causes physiological changes to the gut biome - and there are more neurotransmitters in the gut then in the brain.</p>
<p>And that is why Sarah has started an international petition to create standards for ECT to make patients safer….and not experience the devastating side effects Sarah endures.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:

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0:06:00
One of the pictures Sarah sent, she was much larger - her underlying illness of hepatic encephalopathy, and treatment caused metabolic syndrome from 5 classes of pyschiatric meds - at her her heaviest, Sarah weighed 250 pounds - once she got off those medications and starting eating micronutrition she lost some weight - when she was finally diagnosed with helpatic encephalopathy and the correctly addressed her fungal infection, she has steadily lost weight - she has dropped more than 100 pounds - she's now at 135 pounds, same she weighed in high school
0:07:00
They didn't realize she had fungal edema and what she was eating was also putting stress on her liver, even though liver tests showed normal, when she started treating her liver, her health vastly improved - but Sarah had been living with overgrowth of candidiasis from over prescribed antibiotics - so antifungal meds and herbal protocal helped
0:08:00
Her doctor's website is CandidaMD.com - he describes how over prescribed antibiotics can cause fatigue, auto immune, and other issues - and approaches psychiatric issues as an autoimmune problem, from an orthomolecular view, looking at toxicity issues and a variety of things
0:09:00
Sarah started see this doctor in January 2017 - and started his diet outlined in his book "An Extraordinary Power to Heal" by Bruce Semon - Sarah was on all 5 steps of the protocol at once - it is usually an elimination approach, but since Sarah was so sick, her doctor recommend she do all 5 steps at once - but Sarah had a kidney infection and was on 3 rounds of antibiotics and even though she'd been without psychosis for 5 years, by the 2nd dose of antibiotics she was in full blown psychosis - her psychiatrist wanted to put Sarah back on psych meds, but Sarah pointed out the psychosis manifested with the antibiotics
0:10:00
Sarah then met the candida doctor, Dr Semon, and he said it was candiadis and she laughed at the idea it was causing her problems - she didn't know there were 20 illnesses that could cause her symptoms - Sarah thought it was all a dopamine issue, so her eyes were really opened - Sarah has seen this doctor turn people's health around - Sarah was catatonic from the antibiotics for the kidney infection, and Dr Semon immediately recognized and gave Sarah to big pushes of IV glutathione
0:11:00
Sarah went from asking the nurse to give Sarah her brain back, she thought the nurse had put it in a jar on the shelf and that was why Sarah couldn't move her arms and her body - an hour later after the IV glutathiones, Sarah was ready to go to work
0:12:00
Previously, Sarah had gnarly responses to some medications, she'd have akathesia where she couldn't stop pacing and felt like fire ants coursing through her brains, and extreme agitation and behavior like screaming at her colleagues - but an IV of ALA (alpha lipoic acid) would calm Sarah's body quickly and relieve her of psychiatric issues
0:13:00
Compared to how her body slowly responded to pysch meds, an orthomolecular approach was so much quicker - whereas they use ECT when people are depressed, catatonic, agitated, etc because it is a 'rapid response' treatment, Dr Semon says give them an IV of glutathione or ALA (depending on symptoms) - so its faster than ECT without the brain damage
0:14:00
We need to encourage psychiatry to get back to their roots of orthomolecular approach - trauma cannot be treated with ECT or psych meds - research shows trauma causes physiological changes to the gut biome - the are more neurotranmitters in the gut then in the brain
0:15:00
The myriad of problems associated with dietary, hormonal, toxicity, trauma can be addressed orthomolecularly - Sarah says she cannot take ALA orally as it causes gnarly symptoms - but it is a precursor for glutathione - when Sarah takes ALA via IV, it has a nice calming effect
0:16:00
Sarah has seen patiens come in with mixed mania, so all the symtpoms of depression and mania, agitation, impulsivity, irritation etc and hook them up to IV of ALA, and they would calm down - its important to eat before ALA IV for blood sugar reasons - she would watch their brain calm and rest
0:17:00
A lot of doctors don't know what they don't know, and they are focused on one paradigm and everything they look at looks like a nail because they have a hammer - in reality, sustainable healing uses an entire wellness toolbox to create personal medicine - recognizing what helps and gathering those activities can mitigate suffering
0:18:00
Sarah does recognize the need for medications - she had psychiatric symptoms, and psych meds made her worse, but she did need anti fungal meds to relieve her psych symptoms - there are so many ways we can get sick - they had a client with a son with ADD, ADHD, behavioral problems
0:19:00
The son's bedroom was beside the bathroom, and when they opened up the wall, it was full of black mold - the entire family had been impacted, the father was being treated for 'treatment resistance' depression and had ECT for it - but it was mold mycotoxins in their home - the son was in his 20s, and they don't know how long he'd been exposed to black mold - the family had to move for their health
0:20:00
There are so many things we don't know about - mold is insidious - people with mold exposure don't realize they have to start from scratch, they can't bring clothing etc to a new home
0:21:00
Mold only needs warmth and moisture to grow, so you can't bring mold spores to a new home without eventually having problems again - Orthomolecular Medicine (OM) looks at micronutrition, phospholipids, minerals, vitamins, tissue and cell structure and addresses those insufficiencies and aims for balance
0:22:00
An interesting book by Dr Carl Pfieffer at Princeton's Brain and Bio Clinic - its a 100 page book and he outlines 27 different causes of psychosis /schizophrenia symptoms, and only 1 of those can be addressed with anti-psychotic meds
0:23:00
We need to address the underlying cause of their symptoms - how symptoms manifest is dependent on individual genetics - for 1 person is toxicity may manifest ADHD or arthritis - it depends on the person's unique vulnerabilities - but if you can address the underlying cause, sustainable healing can be achieved
0:24:00
Sarah cycled through 37 different combinations of pysch meds before they found a combo that 'worked' - even then she was still hearing voices, seeing things, mood problems, just not as extreme as previously - whereas with addressing the underlying issue will be life enhancing as the symptoms will go away and there is real recovery, if you're not damaged by other treatments
0:25:00
In Westen medicine they don't recognize the up or down regulation by the meds, so when the meds are removed, the 'brace' is removed
0:26:00
You wouldn't wear a brace or a cast for longer than you needed to - when the meds are removed or changed over night, they expect the patient's nervous system to immediately re-regulate
0:27:00
Patients may think their symptoms are returning, but what's really happening is the removal of meds has a paradoxical effect - there is little research of the longitudinal effects of antidepressants or antipsychotics - so removal of meds causes withdrawal syndrome
0:28:00
Sarah worked with Dr John Humiston (CandidaMD.com) noticed with her candida overgrowth, that if they supported her body with nutrients, she could negate the withdrawal symptoms - it makes sense if you think of the CNS as being damaged, but then giving it proper support to function and heal
0:29:00
Sarah witnessed a lot of people going through treatment - it is called neuro-recover infusion of NAD with amino acids - there are 5 different formulations of neuro-recover - the QEEG scans of before and after neuro-recover were dramatic
0:30:00
The withdrawal symptoms people experienced were reduced by 60 - 70% --- Sarah had been in protracted withdrawal sydrome for 2 years before she tried neuro-recover, and immediately it turned off her akathesia, and within days she started sleeping again, instead of 30 minutes at a time - she was able to sleep for 4 hours, and as treatment progressed, Sarah got 8 - 9 hours of sleep at night
0:31:00
When the body gets the nutrition is needs, it can re-find its homeostasis - Scott mentions his interview with Daryl Brown about 'post SSRI sexual dysfunction' (PSSD)
0:32:00
Sarah says she also experienced PSSD but the neuro recover infusion formulation solved that - and Sarah began experiencing a sex life she never knew was possible
0:33:00
Sarah symtpoms are spiralling down - she recently lost windows of good health when sitting up - it looks like she's going to be living a life in a reclined position, which doesn't leave her with many options to get out and enjoy life - it limits what she can do with her family, what she can do in life - but she's tapped into the disability community for support - at this point, people with electrical injury do not have rehab resources
0:34:00
Sarah is working to change that, and is hoping to do it before she's unable to - (Sarah's petition for ECT regulation and standardization) - Sarah is looking into CCI, but there are not sure what to do about the brainstem injuries
0:35:00
Sarah says brainstem auditory evoked potential testing is important for electrical injury - they overstimulate auditorily and see how your brain responds - also show you moving patterns and see how your brain responds
0:36:00
VNG (videonystagmography) testing - cameras measure how pupils react to light, movement, tracking - they can detect brain stem and central nervous system (CNS) issues
0:37:00
When Sarah had problems with one side of her face, her eyelid drooping - she asks 'was that a myloclonic seizure? We have to look at these issues for people with history of electrical injury or ECT - autopsies in animals and humans connect with symptoms seen in people - cranial nerve damage affecting speech, gait, etc
0:38:00
Having evoked potential testing will help determine problems - having a 3T MRI (and eventually 7T) with special sequencing - SWI for microhemorhaging - D3T MRI to see how things are moving
0:39:00
Also MRA sequencing on MRI shows blood brain barrier - research showed that 7 of 12 cats were not damaged by ECT - but they didn't say that the other 5 cats died and their blood brain barrier did not reseal
0:40:00
So how many humans with ECT had a blood brain barrier that didn't re-seal -- for Sarah, any odours can trigger symptoms, so she has to keep a very clean house with few chemical cleaners - her brain is no longer protected from these odours
0:41:00
Sarah's sensitivity to smells kicked in at the same time the delayed electrical injury kicked in, so they are related - Sarah has to careful in public places - she has many air cleaners in her house, completely re-did the HVAC system with extra filters that Sarah changes every 2 weeks
0:42:00
The majority of buildings don't routinely clean their buildings or their HVAC systems - or exposure to perfumes can cause symptoms - recently she went to a pancake breakfast and sitting 5 feet from the propane stove
0:43:00
She was fine for a short while, but then her speech began to slur, Sarah stood up and fell over - anything she breathes in goes straight to her brain
0:44:00
Sarah says it is important for people to know that ECT / shock treatment needs stanardization and regulated - she needs more signatures on the petition - it is an international petition and will be sent to all English speaking countries - it can be translated as Sarah has partners to translate - it is important we have these discussions in a public forum
0:45:00
Sarah says she's gleaned info from the other interviews - and that her doctor's eyes almost popped out of her head when Sarah brought her the CCI info - its weird and exciting that different mechanisms of injury can cause similar symptoms
0:46:00
Scott asks Sarah final question: what is something nice you're doing for yourself today? Sarah is excited to go to the interantional car show because they have an entire mobility section - Sarah is going with her husband to look at accessible transportation so Sarah can get out of the house and integrated into the world
0:47:00
Sarah is thankful for the gift of tickets from the San Diego car show, because without the gift, they would not be able to afford to go because all their money goes to testing, treatment and medical expenses - but is excited to get out of the house with her husband
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<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
Remedies Counseling - Making Life Better
<p>Have you had traumatic experiences with the health care system?</p>
<p>Are you living / struggling with a chronic illness? </p>
<p>Do you need a counsellor with proven expertise and experience to make life better?</p>
<p><a href='https://remediescounseling.com/book-appointment'>Book an appointment</a> with Scott online at RemediesCounseling.com</p>
<p>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is hard to know where to start in describing what Sarah shares in part 3 of our interview. Sarah imparts so much info about things that helped her regain health - and may help you, and things that hurt her health- and may hurt you.</p>
<p>Sarah tells how a correct diagnosis and stopping inappropriate psych meds, resulted in losing 100+ pounds and get back to her high school weight.</p>
<p>She tells about how when she started to treat her liver, even though her liver tests were ‘normal’, her health and quality of life improved.</p>
<p>Perhaps most importantly, Sarah tells about finding a doctor who approaches psychiatric issues as an autoimmune and toxicity problem, and addresses it with appropriate nutrient support. </p>
<p>This is what stopped the voices in her head that were telling her to kill herself 24/7. </p>
<p>Sarah also tells how when she got a kidney infection and needed antibiotics, the psychosis and voices in her head returned. What did the psychiatrist want to do? Give her psych meds of course. Every symptom looks like a nail if your only approach is to use the hammer of psych meds.</p>
<p>Sarah says we need to encourage psychiatry to get back to their roots of orthomolecular approach - trauma cannot be treated with ECT or psych meds - research shows trauma causes physiological changes to the gut biome - and there are more neurotransmitters in the gut then in the brain.</p>
<p>And that is why Sarah has started an international petition to create standards for ECT to make patients safer….and not experience the devastating side effects Sarah endures.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:<br>
<br>
</p>
<p> </p>
0:06:00
One of the pictures Sarah sent, she was much larger - her underlying illness of hepatic encephalopathy, and treatment caused metabolic syndrome from 5 classes of pyschiatric meds - at her her heaviest, Sarah weighed 250 pounds - once she got off those medications and starting eating micronutrition she lost some weight - when she was finally diagnosed with helpatic encephalopathy and the correctly addressed her fungal infection, she has steadily lost weight - she has dropped more than 100 pounds - she's now at 135 pounds, same she weighed in high school
0:07:00
They didn't realize she had fungal edema and what she was eating was also putting stress on her liver, even though liver tests showed normal, when she started treating her liver, her health vastly improved - but Sarah had been living with overgrowth of candidiasis from over prescribed antibiotics - so antifungal meds and herbal protocal helped
0:08:00
Her doctor's website is CandidaMD.com - he describes how over prescribed antibiotics can cause fatigue, auto immune, and other issues - and approaches psychiatric issues as an autoimmune problem, from an orthomolecular view, looking at toxicity issues and a variety of things
0:09:00
Sarah started see this doctor in January 2017 - and started his diet outlined in his book "An Extraordinary Power to Heal" by Bruce Semon - Sarah was on all 5 steps of the protocol at once - it is usually an elimination approach, but since Sarah was so sick, her doctor recommend she do all 5 steps at once - but Sarah had a kidney infection and was on 3 rounds of antibiotics and even though she'd been without psychosis for 5 years, by the 2nd dose of antibiotics she was in full blown psychosis - her psychiatrist wanted to put Sarah back on psych meds, but Sarah pointed out the psychosis manifested with the antibiotics
0:10:00
Sarah then met the candida doctor, Dr Semon, and he said it was candiadis and she laughed at the idea it was causing her problems - she didn't know there were 20 illnesses that could cause her symptoms - Sarah thought it was all a dopamine issue, so her eyes were really opened - Sarah has seen this doctor turn people's health around - Sarah was catatonic from the antibiotics for the kidney infection, and Dr Semon immediately recognized and gave Sarah to big pushes of IV glutathione
0:11:00
Sarah went from asking the nurse to give Sarah her brain back, she thought the nurse had put it in a jar on the shelf and that was why Sarah couldn't move her arms and her body - an hour later after the IV glutathiones, Sarah was ready to go to work
0:12:00
Previously, Sarah had gnarly responses to some medications, she'd have akathesia where she couldn't stop pacing and felt like fire ants coursing through her brains, and extreme agitation and behavior like screaming at her colleagues - but an IV of ALA (alpha lipoic acid) would calm Sarah's body quickly and relieve her of psychiatric issues
0:13:00
Compared to how her body slowly responded to pysch meds, an orthomolecular approach was so much quicker - whereas they use ECT when people are depressed, catatonic, agitated, etc because it is a 'rapid response' treatment, Dr Semon says give them an IV of glutathione or ALA (depending on symptoms) - so its faster than ECT without the brain damage
0:14:00
We need to encourage psychiatry to get back to their roots of orthomolecular approach - trauma cannot be treated with ECT or psych meds - research shows trauma causes physiological changes to the gut biome - the are more neurotranmitters in the gut then in the brain
0:15:00
The myriad of problems associated with dietary, hormonal, toxicity, trauma can be addressed orthomolecularly - Sarah says she cannot take ALA orally as it causes gnarly symptoms - but it is a precursor for glutathione - when Sarah takes ALA via IV, it has a nice calming effect
0:16:00
Sarah has seen patiens come in with mixed mania, so all the symtpoms of depression and mania, agitation, impulsivity, irritation etc and hook them up to IV of ALA, and they would calm down - its important to eat before ALA IV for blood sugar reasons - she would watch their brain calm and rest
0:17:00
A lot of doctors don't know what they don't know, and they are focused on one paradigm and everything they look at looks like a nail because they have a hammer - in reality, sustainable healing uses an entire wellness toolbox to create personal medicine - recognizing what helps and gathering those activities can mitigate suffering
0:18:00
Sarah does recognize the need for medications - she had psychiatric symptoms, and psych meds made her worse, but she did need anti fungal meds to relieve her psych symptoms - there are so many ways we can get sick - they had a client with a son with ADD, ADHD, behavioral problems
0:19:00
The son's bedroom was beside the bathroom, and when they opened up the wall, it was full of black mold - the entire family had been impacted, the father was being treated for 'treatment resistance' depression and had ECT for it - but it was mold mycotoxins in their home - the son was in his 20s, and they don't know how long he'd been exposed to black mold - the family had to move for their health
0:20:00
There are so many things we don't know about - mold is insidious - people with mold exposure don't realize they have to start from scratch, they can't bring clothing etc to a new home
0:21:00
Mold only needs warmth and moisture to grow, so you can't bring mold spores to a new home without eventually having problems again - Orthomolecular Medicine (OM) looks at micronutrition, phospholipids, minerals, vitamins, tissue and cell structure and addresses those insufficiencies and aims for balance
0:22:00
An interesting book by Dr Carl Pfieffer at Princeton's Brain and Bio Clinic - its a 100 page book and he outlines 27 different causes of psychosis /schizophrenia symptoms, and only 1 of those can be addressed with anti-psychotic meds
0:23:00
We need to address the underlying cause of their symptoms - how symptoms manifest is dependent on individual genetics - for 1 person is toxicity may manifest ADHD or arthritis - it depends on the person's unique vulnerabilities - but if you can address the underlying cause, sustainable healing can be achieved
0:24:00
Sarah cycled through 37 different combinations of pysch meds before they found a combo that 'worked' - even then she was still hearing voices, seeing things, mood problems, just not as extreme as previously - whereas with addressing the underlying issue will be life enhancing as the symptoms will go away and there is real recovery, if you're not damaged by other treatments
0:25:00
In Westen medicine they don't recognize the up or down regulation by the meds, so when the meds are removed, the 'brace' is removed
0:26:00
You wouldn't wear a brace or a cast for longer than you needed to - when the meds are removed or changed over night, they expect the patient's nervous system to immediately re-regulate
0:27:00
Patients may think their symptoms are returning, but what's really happening is the removal of meds has a paradoxical effect - there is little research of the longitudinal effects of antidepressants or antipsychotics - so removal of meds causes withdrawal syndrome
0:28:00
Sarah worked with Dr John Humiston (CandidaMD.com) noticed with her candida overgrowth, that if they supported her body with nutrients, she could negate the withdrawal symptoms - it makes sense if you think of the CNS as being damaged, but then giving it proper support to function and heal
0:29:00
Sarah witnessed a lot of people going through treatment - it is called neuro-recover infusion of NAD with amino acids - there are 5 different formulations of neuro-recover - the QEEG scans of before and after neuro-recover were dramatic
0:30:00
The withdrawal symptoms people experienced were reduced by 60 - 70% --- Sarah had been in protracted withdrawal sydrome for 2 years before she tried neuro-recover, and immediately it turned off her akathesia, and within days she started sleeping again, instead of 30 minutes at a time - she was able to sleep for 4 hours, and as treatment progressed, Sarah got 8 - 9 hours of sleep at night
0:31:00
When the body gets the nutrition is needs, it can re-find its homeostasis - Scott mentions his interview with Daryl Brown about 'post SSRI sexual dysfunction' (PSSD)
0:32:00
Sarah says she also experienced PSSD but the neuro recover infusion formulation solved that - and Sarah began experiencing a sex life she never knew was possible
0:33:00
Sarah symtpoms are spiralling down - she recently lost windows of good health when sitting up - it looks like she's going to be living a life in a reclined position, which doesn't leave her with many options to get out and enjoy life - it limits what she can do with her family, what she can do in life - but she's tapped into the disability community for support - at this point, people with electrical injury do not have rehab resources
0:34:00
Sarah is working to change that, and is hoping to do it before she's unable to - (Sarah's petition for ECT regulation and standardization) - Sarah is looking into CCI, but there are not sure what to do about the brainstem injuries
0:35:00
Sarah says brainstem auditory evoked potential testing is important for electrical injury - they overstimulate auditorily and see how your brain responds - also show you moving patterns and see how your brain responds
0:36:00
VNG (videonystagmography) testing - cameras measure how pupils react to light, movement, tracking - they can detect brain stem and central nervous system (CNS) issues
0:37:00
When Sarah had problems with one side of her face, her eyelid drooping - she asks 'was that a myloclonic seizure? We have to look at these issues for people with history of electrical injury or ECT - autopsies in animals and humans connect with symptoms seen in people - cranial nerve damage affecting speech, gait, etc
0:38:00
Having evoked potential testing will help determine problems - having a 3T MRI (and eventually 7T) with special sequencing - SWI for microhemorhaging - D3T MRI to see how things are moving
0:39:00
Also MRA sequencing on MRI shows blood brain barrier - research showed that 7 of 12 cats were not damaged by ECT - but they didn't say that the other 5 cats died and their blood brain barrier did not reseal
0:40:00
So how many humans with ECT had a blood brain barrier that didn't re-seal -- for Sarah, any odours can trigger symptoms, so she has to keep a very clean house with few chemical cleaners - her brain is no longer protected from these odours
0:41:00
Sarah's sensitivity to smells kicked in at the same time the delayed electrical injury kicked in, so they are related - Sarah has to careful in public places - she has many air cleaners in her house, completely re-did the HVAC system with extra filters that Sarah changes every 2 weeks
0:42:00
The majority of buildings don't routinely clean their buildings or their HVAC systems - or exposure to perfumes can cause symptoms - recently she went to a pancake breakfast and sitting 5 feet from the propane stove
0:43:00
She was fine for a short while, but then her speech began to slur, Sarah stood up and fell over - anything she breathes in goes straight to her brain
0:44:00
Sarah says it is important for people to know that ECT / shock treatment needs stanardization and regulated - she needs more signatures on the petition - it is an international petition and will be sent to all English speaking countries - it can be translated as Sarah has partners to translate - it is important we have these discussions in a public forum
0:45:00
Sarah says she's gleaned info from the other interviews - and that her doctor's eyes almost popped out of her head when Sarah brought her the CCI info - its weird and exciting that different mechanisms of injury can cause similar symptoms
0:46:00
Scott asks Sarah final question: what is something nice you're doing for yourself today? Sarah is excited to go to the interantional car show because they have an entire mobility section - Sarah is going with her husband to look at accessible transportation so Sarah can get out of the house and integrated into the world
0:47:00
Sarah is thankful for the gift of tickets from the San Diego car show, because without the gift, they would not be able to afford to go because all their money goes to testing, treatment and medical expenses - but is excited to get out of the house with her husband
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<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of podcasts for $5 / month.</p>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
Remedies Counseling - Making Life Better
<p>Have you had traumatic experiences with the health care system?</p>
<p>Are you living / struggling with a chronic illness? </p>
<p>Do you need a counsellor with proven expertise and experience to make life better?</p>
<p><a href='https://remediescounseling.com/book-appointment'>Book an appointment</a> with Scott online at RemediesCounseling.com</p>
<p>RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[It is hard to know where to start in describing what Sarah shares in part 3 of our interview. Sarah imparts so much info about things that helped her regain health - and may help you, and things that hurt her health- and may hurt you.
Sarah tells how a correct diagnosis and stopping inappropriate psych meds, resulted in losing 100+ pounds and get back to her high school weight.
She tells about how when she started to treat her liver, even though her liver tests were ‘normal’, her health and quality of life improved.
Perhaps most importantly, Sarah tells about finding a doctor who approaches psychiatric issues as an autoimmune and toxicity problem, and addresses it with appropriate nutrient support. 
This is what stopped the voices in her head that were telling her to kill herself 24/7. 
Sarah also tells how when she got a kidney infection and needed antibiotics, the psychosis and voices in her head returned. What did the psychiatrist want to do? Give her psych meds of course. Every symptom looks like a nail if your only approach is to use the hammer of psych meds.
Sarah says we need to encourage psychiatry to get back to their roots of orthomolecular approach - trauma cannot be treated with ECT or psych meds - research shows trauma causes physiological changes to the gut biome - and there are more neurotransmitters in the gut then in the brain.
And that is why Sarah has started an international petition to create standards for ECT to make patients safer….and not experience the devastating side effects Sarah endures.
SHOW NOTES:
 
0:06:00
One of the pictures Sarah sent, she was much larger - her underlying illness of hepatic encephalopathy, and treatment caused metabolic syndrome from 5 classes of pyschiatric meds - at her her heaviest, Sarah weighed 250 pounds - once she got off those medications and starting eating micronutrition she lost some weight - when she was finally diagnosed with helpatic encephalopathy and the correctly addressed her fungal infection, she has steadily lost weight - she has dropped more than 100 pounds - she's now at 135 pounds, same she weighed in high school
0:07:00
They didn't realize she had fungal edema and what she was eating was also putting stress on her liver, even though liver tests showed normal, when she started treating her liver, her health vastly improved - but Sarah had been living with overgrowth of candidiasis from over prescribed antibiotics - so antifungal meds and herbal protocal helped
0:08:00
Her doctor's website is CandidaMD.com - he describes how over prescribed antibiotics can cause fatigue, auto immune, and other issues - and approaches psychiatric issues as an autoimmune problem, from an orthomolecular view, looking at toxicity issues and a variety of things
0:09:00
Sarah started see this doctor in January 2017 - and started his diet outlined in his book "An Extraordinary Power to Heal" by Bruce Semon - Sarah was on all 5 steps of the protocol at once - it is usually an elimination approach, but since Sarah was so sick, her doctor recommend she do all 5 steps at once - but Sarah had a kidney infection and was on 3 rounds of antibiotics and even though she'd been without psychosis for 5 years, by the 2nd dose of antibiotics she was in full blown psychosis - her psychiatrist wanted to put Sarah back on psych meds, but Sarah pointed out the psychosis manifested with the antibiotics
0:10:00
Sarah then met the candida doctor, Dr Semon, and he said it was candiadis and she laughed at the idea it was causing her problems - she didn't know there were 20 illnesses that could cause her symptoms - Sarah thought it was all a dopamine issue, so her eyes were really opened - Sarah has seen this doctor turn people's health around - Sarah was catatonic from the antibiotics for the kidney infection, and Dr Semon immediately recognized and gave Sarah to big pushes of IV glutathione
0:11:00
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>At the end of part 1 of my interview with Sarah, she had become dizzy and managed to get to the floor safely. Once the gravitational pressure on her brainstem was relieved by being horizontal, the change in the clarity of her voice was astounding. </p>
<p>I caught up with Sarah a few weeks later to pick up where we had left off, and in part 2 we talk about Sarah’s experiences living with ‘ECT brain’ -- like learning how to read and comprehend again. </p>
<p>Sarah shares some of the treatments she’s tried to varying degrees of success; and how she managed to achieve her Master’s degree in rehab counselling in spite - and because of - her medical care experiences. </p>
<p>Sarah also talks about her experiences of bilateral hemiplegia - a frightening condition where one side of the body becomes very weak or paralyzed - for Sarah it is always the right side, and she will have great difficulty walking, talking and breathing.</p>
<p>Sarah tells about some of these weird stroke-like responses her body has to things in our environment like mold, barometric pressure changes, or foods with residual alcohol. </p>
<p>Sarah also shares about some of the treatments that have had a positive effect on her symptoms, and by extension, her quality of life. She tells about MacGyvering a grounding bracelet that has helped dampen some symptoms, and about the time the cold laser therapy on her brainstem brought instant symptom relief. Sarah also tells about the ‘weird science’ interaction during acupuncture when all of her neurological symptoms disappeared -- until she put her cell phone up to her head.</p>
<p>It is truly frightening that shock treatment, aka electro convulsive therapy, or ECT, is not standardized. It is like the wild west with different doctors using different protocols and - surprise, surprise - getting different results. Sometimes good, sometimes devastating like in Sarah’s case. That is why Sarah has started an international petition to make ECT safer.</p>
<p>One final note, when I started recording the interview, Sarah had just gone from being sitting up and being vertical to laying down and being horizontal --- listen to how Sarah’s voice becomes more clear as we get further into our chat. </p>
<p>SHOW NOTES </p>
0:07:00
(At the end of part 1, Sarah had gotten dizzy and had to lay down on the floor. We connected again a few weeks later.) It takes a while for Sarah's body to normalize from dizziness, so the longer she stays horizontal, the more likely she'll be able to sit or stand later
0:08:00
Not sure what's going on with Sarah's body, but the research into electrical injury, the focal point of the electricity is on the brainstem - but the brainstem is not involved in emotional regulation that they are trying to effect in shock treatment (ECT) - the electrodes are placed on the temples
0:09:00
And the electrical currents pass through the brain to the anterior of the frontal lobes and brainstem area - they've discovered the most damage is along the current's course through the brain - it also causes diffuse electrical injury in the brain - so the more shock treatments, the more damage they are likely to have
0:10:00
Electrical injury in other parts of the body also impacts the brainstem - we have to remember our central nervous system was designed to conduct electricity, so whenever we're exposed to an electrical current, it is going to travel the path of our nervous system, it is not contained to a specific body part
0:11:00
Sarah is sensitive to electrical currents in the environment, from devices - she had a unique experience, she began working with a doctor who uses acupuncture - sometimes in acupuncture they will create a circuit within your body from one needle to another - when he did this to Sarah, her symptoms completely subsided
0:12:00
The constant static humming she's feels in her body, completely went away - the doctor said he'd never seen that before - Sarah's speech problems completely resolved - then her phone rang, as it got closer to her, Sarah's symptoms started to reappear - when she finished the convo and moved the phone away from her, the symptoms resolved again - the doctor's eyes almost popped out of his head
0:13:00
There is so much we don't understand about the body and its response to electrical currents - Sarah does a lot of 'grounding' - it helps her sleep and takes away the static feeling - this should all be looked into if someone has an electrical injury
0:14:00
Grounding is where the person is literally grounded to the earth - a study in cardiac patients that were grounded for 8 hours a day (during sleep) - an electrical wire is grounded to the earth
0:15:00
The Natvie Americans use grounding a lot - Sarah knows a story of a man visiting his grandmother on a Reservation and she demanded he take his shoes off because 'they are going to kill you' - she recognized there is rejuvenation by being connected to the earth - the cardiac patient and grounding study measured their cortisol every 4 hours
0:16:00
Over several weeks, the patients re-regulated their cortisol and improved their sleep patterns and improved their heart problems - that was a controlled research trial - Sarah is very research based and thought 'it couldn't hurt' to try - going barefoot in the grass or using actual grounding equipment
0:17:00
Sarah has felt a difference: improved sleep, improvement in her most annoying symptoms
0:18:00
A woman selling an EMF detector device applied it to Sarah, but it didn't light up, something the woman had not seen before - she didn't know that Sarah was sitting on a grounding mat - Sarah finds it fascinating that we can improve our health many different ways
0:19:00
Sarah also bought a grounding bracelet (from Amazon, like $3), the kind you'd use for fixing computers - the bracelet has a wire that is connected to an alligator clip - Sarah bought a power surger that has a light that indicates when it is grounded
0:20:00
Sarah warns to consult with someone who knows electrical engineering, not to take her experience as advice because electricity is powerful and don't want to cause problems
0:21:00
Sarah put a grounding screw into the 3rd hole of an electrical outlet and attached the alligator clip to that screw - Sarah then sleeps with the grounding bracelet on - that's the cheap way, you can pay hundreds by purchasing equipment online
0:22:00
Barometric pressure is what changes our weather - a 'low' is when a storm is coming in, the faster it drops, the faster the storm is approaching
0:24:00
When there is the barometric pressure drops, Sarah gets the most intense tension pressure headaches - Sarah has problems going into the mountains because her body has problems regulating pressure, and the motion is also a problem
0:25:00
Sudden storms can cause bilateral hemiplegia - there is a lot to be researched about the body - Sarah sent research on electrical injury to a NIH researcher, he got her on serine and ATP
0:26:00
Patients with delayed onset have low levels of serine, and amino acids - when the NIH researcher read Sarah's list of research, he started to understand why Sarah was not improving
0:27:00
Brain stem and cranial nerve damage is not something he knows how to address - Sarah has been blessed to connect with some exceptional researchers - Phillip Yarnell, Ken Ferguson - specialize in electrical injury - they want Sarah to have a 3T MRI with various sequencing
0:28:00
To identify how her brain is functioning - Sarah was also referred for an EMG and 'sees' inside the brain, not just the surface - the challenge with electrical injury is that they can cause bizarre symptoms, that are broad and varied, so doctors look at the symptoms as conversion disorder because they don't understand - when researches look at brainstem evoking potential, they can cause all these symptoms
0:29:00
This indicates its not a conversion disorder, but a type of seizure - and its not captured on a standard EEG - but during a brainstem evoking potential procedure they overstimulate the patient visually, auditorally and they show damage in the cranial nerves and brainstem causing dramatic problems - so its critical that people with an electrical injury understand that the laws of electricity do not change based on benevolent intent
0:30:00
So just because a doctor gave you electricity, doesn't mean it contravenes the laws of electricity and human tissue - Sarah and her doctor are looking into cranio cervical instability (CCI) because electrical injury causes atrophy to tendons and muscles - some patients develop bulbar type symptoms with difficulty swallowing
0:31:00
When Sarah lays down her thoughts are much clearer, so she's going to get imaging for CCI - when Sarah is horizontal the effect is so profound - animal studies show electrical injury causes compression of the brainstem - the electrical force to cause seizures is about the equivalent of 73 pounds pushing on the brain
0:32:00
The electrical pulses strain the brain - science is compartmentalized and not considering how electricity affects different parts of the body - (Scott mentions the PoNS device)
0:33:00
Sarah tried cold laser therapy and it radically improved things - but it also stimulated her nervous system, and the more she used the laser, after initial improvement, the worse she got - so how much stimulation can the brain get before it short circuits? - new devices stimulate nerves, but the truth is we don't know how they work
0:34:00
So how long with they work? How much time is needed for a treatment? We're getting into areas we don't understand, especially about delayed electrical injury - research looks for immediate results, and not recognizing delayed electrical injury that is well documented in the literature
0:35:00
It is devastating to many people because it is directly related to motor neuron disease, and motor neuron disease is devastating - (Scott refers The Healing Brain by Dr Norman Doidge, and to Dr Fred Khan, about laser therapy)
0:36:00
Sarah knows they use laser therapy in brain and spinal cord injury
0:37:00
Sarah has seen dramatic results but wants to caution people that we don't know enough about delayed electrical injury - for Sarah, who has repetitive electrical injury, her results are probably more dramatic, but less long term - recently she ate something with residual alcohol in it, but her body can't process alcohol
0:38:00
Within 10 minutes of trying it, she couldn't speak or walk - dizzy, difficulty communicating, breathing - her brother immediately took Sarah for cold laser therapy
0:39:00
The doctor put the laser on her brain stem and instantly her symptoms resolved - but Sarah says use caution, too much of a good thing is not a good thing - just because it works now, doesn't mean it will work, or not cause problems 5 years from now - study and do research
0:41:00
There are many medical practices and cultures we can learn from, but we need to keep tings in context
0:42:00
Sarah quit shock treatments against medical advice in June 2009 - in 2010 Sarah had immediate onset of hemiplegia and frenetic nerve spasms that look like dry heaving, but there is no nausea - then it becomes diaphramatic paralysis - so less then a year after stopping shock treatments - then in 2013 it happened again
0:43:00
The 1st time it happened she was at the dentist and was taken by ambulance to the hospital and tested for stroke - her CT was clean, and within 36 hours she had regained the strength in both sides of her body
0:44:00
It happened again with a doctor, the room had a lot of stimulation - Sarah got very dizzy, and the world turned topsy turvy and Sarah slanted to her right - again she was taken by ambulance to another hospital for stroke assessment - they said she had atypical migraines
0:45:00
So no damage on CT scans after those 2 events, but they started to happen more frequently - in 2007 Sarah was exposed to mold - she was working in a building with a history of a leaky roof and being flooded - within 18 months Sarah was messed up, could not walk, etc
0:46:00
She didn't know at first it was mold related - but started practicing mold avoidance and her symptoms started improving - so what makes Sarah sick is not one single thing, it is a cumulative issue - she believes there are toxicity issues from her underlying condition of hepatic encephalopathy - this was complicated when they gave her psychiatric medications that her body could not metabolizing - so her brain was marinating in ammonia
0:47:00
They tried to fix that by using electricity, repeatedly - Dr Bennett Amolio spoke at a board meeting for the State of California's Department of Rehabilitation - he was talking about brain injury and stated that electrical injury is a functional injury, and repetitive electrical injury is like repetitive head injury with similar effects as functional injuries, motor neuron injuries, and Parkinson type movements in football players
0:48:00
He said the injuries are not seen on typical scans, very fine scans must be used - on the cutting edge of quantifying the problems - Sarah's side effects from shock treatment are typical for shock treatment patients - there is no standardization of shock treatment - there are 7 variables involved
0:49:00
There is an outcome dichotomy of shock treatment: people either say it saved their lives, and others say it ruined their lives, including death as a direct result - Sarah says we really need to make change - need fidelity and standard operating procedures so doctors can replicate what the research shows - with ECT they never replicate electrode placement and seizure threshold and all these things you'd think would be standardized
0:50:00
So doctors give information in the informed consent, but the doctor may not be using the same protocol - when the manufacturer lists 7 variables that may cause permanent brain damage or memory loss, that is a red flag to prioritize patient safety and minimize patient risk - that is why Sarah created the petition for standardization
0:51:00
Sarah says when people hear these amazing stories about ECT and recovery, but because it is not regulated or standardized, we have to remember these stories, good and bad, are just anecdotes until research is done
0:52:00
Sarah has a podcast - and now that she knows how much better her voice is when she's horizontal, she should get back into her podcast - Sarah worked really hard to get supports and academic accommodation in place and 1.5 years after shock treatment, she was accepted into an internationally recognized rehabilitation program - they looked at her lived experience and her grades in undergrad
0:53:00
They put more weight on lived experience then GRE (Graduate school test) testing because Sarah tested in the bottom third, a vast difference from her 3.9 GPA in undergrad
0:54:00
Dr Karen Sacks admitted Sarah to the program, could see her potential for success - Sarah feels blessed to have been accepted into the San Diego university - the students used Sarah a lot for their research to know what kind of assistive technology Sarah needed - she could then take that report to the accommodation office at the university - Sarah learned about neuroplasticity and what she could do to help her brain
0:55:00
She essentially had to learn to read/comprehend again because ECT made it that Sarah could not remember the line she just read, or identify what line to read next - she had to listen to audio why the words were highlighted on a screen so she could learn to track her reading - there was a lot of rehab involved that most electrical injury patients don't have access to - so Sarah is creating rehab protocols for these patients so they can get access to life enhancing treatment and protocols - Sarah can read and retain info now, her working memory has improved
0:56:00
Sarah got her Masters degree and was working as a research assistant and graduate assistant, and they were so impressed with her work they invited her back to teach even though she didn't have a doctorate - so Sarah co-taught and co-authored psych rehab accredited curriculum - a phenomenal experience teaching for 4 years
0:57:00
They created recovery based practical solutions for psychiatric rehab - California implemented Professional Clinical Licensing, so they were able to create a clinical track for rehab counsellors - but with the delayed onset of electrical injury, Sarah was forced into early retirement
0:58:00
It was hard because she loved teaching and designing lessons - she loved being able to challenge the notion that psychosis was permanent, but that people could recover and return to work, if they have the supports, they can have a full life - but there is so much bias against people with brain injuries and psychiatric problems
0:59:00
There is an assumption that patients can't recovery, but in reality you can't judge a fish by how well it climbs a tree - if you give appropriate assessment and supports, and if you believe in your clients and help them believe in themselves, will take their life in directions that will be astounding - Sarah thinks helping people recognize their own potential
1:00:00
By bringing together knowledge, we can produce great programs that improve quality of life and reduce harm - When Sarah sits up, her speech is so affected she has had to start using speech to speech relay services - she was just assessed for text to speech therapy
1:01:00
Sarah ability to stand is deteriorating, as is her ability to sit up - but Sarah had strong relationships with universities and is frequently asked to present - now she either has to do it from being horizontal, or horizontal from home via zoom video, or like Stephen Hawking, with an electronic voice - the university said that Sarah's presentations are so profound for the students they didn't care how she did it
1:02:00
It means a lot to Sarah that people are recognizing lived experience as very valuable - if doctors integrated what they know with what patients know, they would create great care - there some doctors out there who do this and integrate patient experience to understand practical application
1:03:00
Sarah's website is PsychRecoveryandRehab.com, Sarah's podcast is on emotional self-reliance - there are 10 episodes and walks through the basics of creating emotional self-reliance, autonomy and independence
1:04:00
It is good for anyone who has been slammed again and again - helps people take back power over their lives - her podcast is called Emotional Self Reliance
1:05:00
Sarah says her international petition to get ECT regulated needs more signatures - if any one is interested in helping translate it to their own language, they can connect with Sarah
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<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/PsychRecovery'>@PsychRehab</a></p>
<p>Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/PsychRecoveryandRehab/'>Psych Recovery and Rehab</a></p>
<p><a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahpricehancock/'>Linkedin</a></p>
<p>Website:http://www.psychrecoveryandrehab.com/</p>
<p>Podcast:https://www.psychrecoveryandrehab.com/esrpodcast/</p>
<p>Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMRPmYh9SrE3RcdmFObhyYw?view_as=subscriber</p>
<p>Sarah's petition for ECT regulation and standardization: <a href='http://chng.it/rBGJNSKB5m'>http://chng.it/rBGJNSKB5m</a> </p>



















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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of part 1 of my interview with Sarah, she had become dizzy and managed to get to the floor safely. Once the gravitational pressure on her brainstem was relieved by being horizontal, the change in the clarity of her voice was astounding. </p>
<p>I caught up with Sarah a few weeks later to pick up where we had left off, and in part 2 we talk about Sarah’s experiences living with ‘ECT brain’ -- like learning how to read and comprehend again. </p>
<p>Sarah shares some of the treatments she’s tried to varying degrees of success; and how she managed to achieve her Master’s degree in rehab counselling in spite - and because of - her medical care experiences. </p>
<p>Sarah also talks about her experiences of bilateral hemiplegia - a frightening condition where one side of the body becomes very weak or paralyzed - for Sarah it is always the right side, and she will have great difficulty walking, talking and breathing.</p>
<p>Sarah tells about some of these weird stroke-like responses her body has to things in our environment like mold, barometric pressure changes, or foods with residual alcohol. </p>
<p>Sarah also shares about some of the treatments that have had a positive effect on her symptoms, and by extension, her quality of life. She tells about MacGyvering a grounding bracelet that has helped dampen some symptoms, and about the time the cold laser therapy on her brainstem brought instant symptom relief. Sarah also tells about the ‘weird science’ interaction during acupuncture when all of her neurological symptoms disappeared -- until she put her cell phone up to her head.</p>
<p>It is truly frightening that shock treatment, aka electro convulsive therapy, or ECT, is not standardized. It is like the wild west with different doctors using different protocols and - surprise, surprise - getting different results. Sometimes good, sometimes devastating like in Sarah’s case. That is why Sarah has started an international petition to make ECT safer.</p>
<p>One final note, when I started recording the interview, Sarah had just gone from being sitting up and being vertical to laying down and being horizontal --- listen to how Sarah’s voice becomes more clear as we get further into our chat. </p>
<p>SHOW NOTES </p>
0:07:00
(At the end of part 1, Sarah had gotten dizzy and had to lay down on the floor. We connected again a few weeks later.) It takes a while for Sarah's body to normalize from dizziness, so the longer she stays horizontal, the more likely she'll be able to sit or stand later
0:08:00
Not sure what's going on with Sarah's body, but the research into electrical injury, the focal point of the electricity is on the brainstem - but the brainstem is not involved in emotional regulation that they are trying to effect in shock treatment (ECT) - the electrodes are placed on the temples
0:09:00
And the electrical currents pass through the brain to the anterior of the frontal lobes and brainstem area - they've discovered the most damage is along the current's course through the brain - it also causes diffuse electrical injury in the brain - so the more shock treatments, the more damage they are likely to have
0:10:00
Electrical injury in other parts of the body also impacts the brainstem - we have to remember our central nervous system was designed to conduct electricity, so whenever we're exposed to an electrical current, it is going to travel the path of our nervous system, it is not contained to a specific body part
0:11:00
Sarah is sensitive to electrical currents in the environment, from devices - she had a unique experience, she began working with a doctor who uses acupuncture - sometimes in acupuncture they will create a circuit within your body from one needle to another - when he did this to Sarah, her symptoms completely subsided
0:12:00
The constant static humming she's feels in her body, completely went away - the doctor said he'd never seen that before - Sarah's speech problems completely resolved - then her phone rang, as it got closer to her, Sarah's symptoms started to reappear - when she finished the convo and moved the phone away from her, the symptoms resolved again - the doctor's eyes almost popped out of his head
0:13:00
There is so much we don't understand about the body and its response to electrical currents - Sarah does a lot of 'grounding' - it helps her sleep and takes away the static feeling - this should all be looked into if someone has an electrical injury
0:14:00
Grounding is where the person is literally grounded to the earth - a study in cardiac patients that were grounded for 8 hours a day (during sleep) - an electrical wire is grounded to the earth
0:15:00
The Natvie Americans use grounding a lot - Sarah knows a story of a man visiting his grandmother on a Reservation and she demanded he take his shoes off because 'they are going to kill you' - she recognized there is rejuvenation by being connected to the earth - the cardiac patient and grounding study measured their cortisol every 4 hours
0:16:00
Over several weeks, the patients re-regulated their cortisol and improved their sleep patterns and improved their heart problems - that was a controlled research trial - Sarah is very research based and thought 'it couldn't hurt' to try - going barefoot in the grass or using actual grounding equipment
0:17:00
Sarah has felt a difference: improved sleep, improvement in her most annoying symptoms
0:18:00
A woman selling an EMF detector device applied it to Sarah, but it didn't light up, something the woman had not seen before - she didn't know that Sarah was sitting on a grounding mat - Sarah finds it fascinating that we can improve our health many different ways
0:19:00
Sarah also bought a grounding bracelet (from Amazon, like $3), the kind you'd use for fixing computers - the bracelet has a wire that is connected to an alligator clip - Sarah bought a power surger that has a light that indicates when it is grounded
0:20:00
Sarah warns to consult with someone who knows electrical engineering, not to take her experience as advice because electricity is powerful and don't want to cause problems
0:21:00
Sarah put a grounding screw into the 3rd hole of an electrical outlet and attached the alligator clip to that screw - Sarah then sleeps with the grounding bracelet on - that's the cheap way, you can pay hundreds by purchasing equipment online
0:22:00
Barometric pressure is what changes our weather - a 'low' is when a storm is coming in, the faster it drops, the faster the storm is approaching
0:24:00
When there is the barometric pressure drops, Sarah gets the most intense tension pressure headaches - Sarah has problems going into the mountains because her body has problems regulating pressure, and the motion is also a problem
0:25:00
Sudden storms can cause bilateral hemiplegia - there is a lot to be researched about the body - Sarah sent research on electrical injury to a NIH researcher, he got her on serine and ATP
0:26:00
Patients with delayed onset have low levels of serine, and amino acids - when the NIH researcher read Sarah's list of research, he started to understand why Sarah was not improving
0:27:00
Brain stem and cranial nerve damage is not something he knows how to address - Sarah has been blessed to connect with some exceptional researchers - Phillip Yarnell, Ken Ferguson - specialize in electrical injury - they want Sarah to have a 3T MRI with various sequencing
0:28:00
To identify how her brain is functioning - Sarah was also referred for an EMG and 'sees' inside the brain, not just the surface - the challenge with electrical injury is that they can cause bizarre symptoms, that are broad and varied, so doctors look at the symptoms as conversion disorder because they don't understand - when researches look at brainstem evoking potential, they can cause all these symptoms
0:29:00
This indicates its not a conversion disorder, but a type of seizure - and its not captured on a standard EEG - but during a brainstem evoking potential procedure they overstimulate the patient visually, auditorally and they show damage in the cranial nerves and brainstem causing dramatic problems - so its critical that people with an electrical injury understand that the laws of electricity do not change based on benevolent intent
0:30:00
So just because a doctor gave you electricity, doesn't mean it contravenes the laws of electricity and human tissue - Sarah and her doctor are looking into cranio cervical instability (CCI) because electrical injury causes atrophy to tendons and muscles - some patients develop bulbar type symptoms with difficulty swallowing
0:31:00
When Sarah lays down her thoughts are much clearer, so she's going to get imaging for CCI - when Sarah is horizontal the effect is so profound - animal studies show electrical injury causes compression of the brainstem - the electrical force to cause seizures is about the equivalent of 73 pounds pushing on the brain
0:32:00
The electrical pulses strain the brain - science is compartmentalized and not considering how electricity affects different parts of the body - (Scott mentions the PoNS device)
0:33:00
Sarah tried cold laser therapy and it radically improved things - but it also stimulated her nervous system, and the more she used the laser, after initial improvement, the worse she got - so how much stimulation can the brain get before it short circuits? - new devices stimulate nerves, but the truth is we don't know how they work
0:34:00
So how long with they work? How much time is needed for a treatment? We're getting into areas we don't understand, especially about delayed electrical injury - research looks for immediate results, and not recognizing delayed electrical injury that is well documented in the literature
0:35:00
It is devastating to many people because it is directly related to motor neuron disease, and motor neuron disease is devastating - (Scott refers The Healing Brain by Dr Norman Doidge, and to Dr Fred Khan, about laser therapy)
0:36:00
Sarah knows they use laser therapy in brain and spinal cord injury
0:37:00
Sarah has seen dramatic results but wants to caution people that we don't know enough about delayed electrical injury - for Sarah, who has repetitive electrical injury, her results are probably more dramatic, but less long term - recently she ate something with residual alcohol in it, but her body can't process alcohol
0:38:00
Within 10 minutes of trying it, she couldn't speak or walk - dizzy, difficulty communicating, breathing - her brother immediately took Sarah for cold laser therapy
0:39:00
The doctor put the laser on her brain stem and instantly her symptoms resolved - but Sarah says use caution, too much of a good thing is not a good thing - just because it works now, doesn't mean it will work, or not cause problems 5 years from now - study and do research
0:41:00
There are many medical practices and cultures we can learn from, but we need to keep tings in context
0:42:00
Sarah quit shock treatments against medical advice in June 2009 - in 2010 Sarah had immediate onset of hemiplegia and frenetic nerve spasms that look like dry heaving, but there is no nausea - then it becomes diaphramatic paralysis - so less then a year after stopping shock treatments - then in 2013 it happened again
0:43:00
The 1st time it happened she was at the dentist and was taken by ambulance to the hospital and tested for stroke - her CT was clean, and within 36 hours she had regained the strength in both sides of her body
0:44:00
It happened again with a doctor, the room had a lot of stimulation - Sarah got very dizzy, and the world turned topsy turvy and Sarah slanted to her right - again she was taken by ambulance to another hospital for stroke assessment - they said she had atypical migraines
0:45:00
So no damage on CT scans after those 2 events, but they started to happen more frequently - in 2007 Sarah was exposed to mold - she was working in a building with a history of a leaky roof and being flooded - within 18 months Sarah was messed up, could not walk, etc
0:46:00
She didn't know at first it was mold related - but started practicing mold avoidance and her symptoms started improving - so what makes Sarah sick is not one single thing, it is a cumulative issue - she believes there are toxicity issues from her underlying condition of hepatic encephalopathy - this was complicated when they gave her psychiatric medications that her body could not metabolizing - so her brain was marinating in ammonia
0:47:00
They tried to fix that by using electricity, repeatedly - Dr Bennett Amolio spoke at a board meeting for the State of California's Department of Rehabilitation - he was talking about brain injury and stated that electrical injury is a functional injury, and repetitive electrical injury is like repetitive head injury with similar effects as functional injuries, motor neuron injuries, and Parkinson type movements in football players
0:48:00
He said the injuries are not seen on typical scans, very fine scans must be used - on the cutting edge of quantifying the problems - Sarah's side effects from shock treatment are typical for shock treatment patients - there is no standardization of shock treatment - there are 7 variables involved
0:49:00
There is an outcome dichotomy of shock treatment: people either say it saved their lives, and others say it ruined their lives, including death as a direct result - Sarah says we really need to make change - need fidelity and standard operating procedures so doctors can replicate what the research shows - with ECT they never replicate electrode placement and seizure threshold and all these things you'd think would be standardized
0:50:00
So doctors give information in the informed consent, but the doctor may not be using the same protocol - when the manufacturer lists 7 variables that may cause permanent brain damage or memory loss, that is a red flag to prioritize patient safety and minimize patient risk - that is why Sarah created the petition for standardization
0:51:00
Sarah says when people hear these amazing stories about ECT and recovery, but because it is not regulated or standardized, we have to remember these stories, good and bad, are just anecdotes until research is done
0:52:00
Sarah has a podcast - and now that she knows how much better her voice is when she's horizontal, she should get back into her podcast - Sarah worked really hard to get supports and academic accommodation in place and 1.5 years after shock treatment, she was accepted into an internationally recognized rehabilitation program - they looked at her lived experience and her grades in undergrad
0:53:00
They put more weight on lived experience then GRE (Graduate school test) testing because Sarah tested in the bottom third, a vast difference from her 3.9 GPA in undergrad
0:54:00
Dr Karen Sacks admitted Sarah to the program, could see her potential for success - Sarah feels blessed to have been accepted into the San Diego university - the students used Sarah a lot for their research to know what kind of assistive technology Sarah needed - she could then take that report to the accommodation office at the university - Sarah learned about neuroplasticity and what she could do to help her brain
0:55:00
She essentially had to learn to read/comprehend again because ECT made it that Sarah could not remember the line she just read, or identify what line to read next - she had to listen to audio why the words were highlighted on a screen so she could learn to track her reading - there was a lot of rehab involved that most electrical injury patients don't have access to - so Sarah is creating rehab protocols for these patients so they can get access to life enhancing treatment and protocols - Sarah can read and retain info now, her working memory has improved
0:56:00
Sarah got her Masters degree and was working as a research assistant and graduate assistant, and they were so impressed with her work they invited her back to teach even though she didn't have a doctorate - so Sarah co-taught and co-authored psych rehab accredited curriculum - a phenomenal experience teaching for 4 years
0:57:00
They created recovery based practical solutions for psychiatric rehab - California implemented Professional Clinical Licensing, so they were able to create a clinical track for rehab counsellors - but with the delayed onset of electrical injury, Sarah was forced into early retirement
0:58:00
It was hard because she loved teaching and designing lessons - she loved being able to challenge the notion that psychosis was permanent, but that people could recover and return to work, if they have the supports, they can have a full life - but there is so much bias against people with brain injuries and psychiatric problems
0:59:00
There is an assumption that patients can't recovery, but in reality you can't judge a fish by how well it climbs a tree - if you give appropriate assessment and supports, and if you believe in your clients and help them believe in themselves, will take their life in directions that will be astounding - Sarah thinks helping people recognize their own potential
1:00:00
By bringing together knowledge, we can produce great programs that improve quality of life and reduce harm - When Sarah sits up, her speech is so affected she has had to start using speech to speech relay services - she was just assessed for text to speech therapy
1:01:00
Sarah ability to stand is deteriorating, as is her ability to sit up - but Sarah had strong relationships with universities and is frequently asked to present - now she either has to do it from being horizontal, or horizontal from home via zoom video, or like Stephen Hawking, with an electronic voice - the university said that Sarah's presentations are so profound for the students they didn't care how she did it
1:02:00
It means a lot to Sarah that people are recognizing lived experience as very valuable - if doctors integrated what they know with what patients know, they would create great care - there some doctors out there who do this and integrate patient experience to understand practical application
1:03:00
Sarah's website is PsychRecoveryandRehab.com, Sarah's podcast is on emotional self-reliance - there are 10 episodes and walks through the basics of creating emotional self-reliance, autonomy and independence
1:04:00
It is good for anyone who has been slammed again and again - helps people take back power over their lives - her podcast is called Emotional Self Reliance
1:05:00
Sarah says her international petition to get ECT regulated needs more signatures - if any one is interested in helping translate it to their own language, they can connect with Sarah
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<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/PsychRecovery'>@PsychRehab</a></p>
<p>Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/PsychRecoveryandRehab/'>Psych Recovery and Rehab</a></p>
<p><a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahpricehancock/'>Linkedin</a></p>
<p>Website:http://www.psychrecoveryandrehab.com/</p>
<p>Podcast:https://www.psychrecoveryandrehab.com/esrpodcast/</p>
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<p>Sarah's petition for ECT regulation and standardization: <a href='http://chng.it/rBGJNSKB5m'>http://chng.it/rBGJNSKB5m</a> </p>



















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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[At the end of part 1 of my interview with Sarah, she had become dizzy and managed to get to the floor safely. Once the gravitational pressure on her brainstem was relieved by being horizontal, the change in the clarity of her voice was astounding. 
I caught up with Sarah a few weeks later to pick up where we had left off, and in part 2 we talk about Sarah’s experiences living with ‘ECT brain’ -- like learning how to read and comprehend again. 
Sarah shares some of the treatments she’s tried to varying degrees of success; and how she managed to achieve her Master’s degree in rehab counselling in spite - and because of - her medical care experiences. 
Sarah also talks about her experiences of bilateral hemiplegia - a frightening condition where one side of the body becomes very weak or paralyzed - for Sarah it is always the right side, and she will have great difficulty walking, talking and breathing.
Sarah tells about some of these weird stroke-like responses her body has to things in our environment like mold, barometric pressure changes, or foods with residual alcohol. 
Sarah also shares about some of the treatments that have had a positive effect on her symptoms, and by extension, her quality of life. She tells about MacGyvering a grounding bracelet that has helped dampen some symptoms, and about the time the cold laser therapy on her brainstem brought instant symptom relief. Sarah also tells about the ‘weird science’ interaction during acupuncture when all of her neurological symptoms disappeared -- until she put her cell phone up to her head.
It is truly frightening that shock treatment, aka electro convulsive therapy, or ECT, is not standardized. It is like the wild west with different doctors using different protocols and - surprise, surprise - getting different results. Sometimes good, sometimes devastating like in Sarah’s case. That is why Sarah has started an international petition to make ECT safer.
One final note, when I started recording the interview, Sarah had just gone from being sitting up and being vertical to laying down and being horizontal --- listen to how Sarah’s voice becomes more clear as we get further into our chat. 
SHOW NOTES 
0:07:00
(At the end of part 1, Sarah had gotten dizzy and had to lay down on the floor. We connected again a few weeks later.) It takes a while for Sarah's body to normalize from dizziness, so the longer she stays horizontal, the more likely she'll be able to sit or stand later
0:08:00
Not sure what's going on with Sarah's body, but the research into electrical injury, the focal point of the electricity is on the brainstem - but the brainstem is not involved in emotional regulation that they are trying to effect in shock treatment (ECT) - the electrodes are placed on the temples
0:09:00
And the electrical currents pass through the brain to the anterior of the frontal lobes and brainstem area - they've discovered the most damage is along the current's course through the brain - it also causes diffuse electrical injury in the brain - so the more shock treatments, the more damage they are likely to have
0:10:00
Electrical injury in other parts of the body also impacts the brainstem - we have to remember our central nervous system was designed to conduct electricity, so whenever we're exposed to an electrical current, it is going to travel the path of our nervous system, it is not contained to a specific body part
0:11:00
Sarah is sensitive to electrical currents in the environment, from devices - she had a unique experience, she began working with a doctor who uses acupuncture - sometimes in acupuncture they will create a circuit within your body from one needle to another - when he did this to Sarah, her symptoms completely subsided
0:12:00
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>I first became aware of Sarah when she shared a video clip on twitter of her waiting for an appointment sitting in her wheelchair. Her voice was strained and she was a bit difficult to understand, but as soon as Sarah was in a horizontal position her voice was clear as a bell. I immediately reached out to Sarah to learn more about her incredible health care journey. </p>
<p>Doctors diagnosed Sarah with Schizoid Affective Disorder and gave her antipsychotic medications. When those didn’t work, they gave Sarah over 116 rounds of electric shock therapy  - they put electrodes on Sarah’s temples and zapped her with electricity so her brain had a seizure. Doctors also had Sarah on 5 classes of psychiatric medications amounting to 37 different combinations. In spite of this, for 12 years Sarah lived with voices in her head 24/7 telling her how and why to kill herself - all while working toward her Masters Degree.</p>
<p>As Sarah would eventually discover with a proper diagnosis, her psychiatric symptoms were not from schizo affective disorder, they were from hepatic encephalopathy and her brain was marinating in toxins. Once Sarah received proper treatment the voices disappeared. But that’s not the end of Sarah’s story - all those electric shock treatments have damaged Sarah’s brain affecting her speech, memory, and ability to walk. </p>
<p>We had to end Sarah’s interview prematurely as you’ll hear, when she was overcome with dizziness, her speech quickly deteriorated, and she had to lie down on the floor to remove the pressure on her brainstem. Listen to how Sarah’s voice changes during this - Sarah’s final words are in the voice she had before electrical brain injury.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
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<p>First Psychosis</p>
<p>0:06:30</p>
<p>Sarah grew up in sunny <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego'>San Diego</a>, a 3rd generation San Diegan - wonderful parents, but struggles like all families - Sarah is the oldest child and only daughter - when frustrated her Dad would say 'Well Sarah, I've not had a daughter before' - she has 2 younger brothers - her parents did their best to provide a loving and supportive environment</p>
<p>0:08:30</p>
<p>Sarah's Mom is a wonderful lady, but they did butt heads - they have reconciled and Sarah considers her Mom to be one of her best friends now - after high school Sarah moved to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexburg,_Idaho'>Rexburg</a>, Idaho where she learned about living in snow and -30 Fahrenheit</p>
<p>0:09:30</p>
<p>Sarah went to a college made famous by (the film) <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_Dynamite'>Napolean Dynamite</a>, called Rex College, but now known as <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_Young_University%E2%80%93Idaho'>Brigham Young University Idaho</a> - graduated and transferred to BYU (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_Young_University'>Brigham Young University</a>) in Provo, Utah - after 1 semester studying English, Sarah served a mission for <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints'>Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints</a> and learned to speak Spanish and serve the people of Texas - after 18 months Sarah was invited to join the American Sign Language program and worked for 2 months with deaf people - and then returned home to BYU</p>
<p>0:10:30</p>
<p>Sarah had bad chronic and seasonal allergies causing asthma, sinus infections and bronchitis - growing up Sarah had been given a lot of antibiotics, like 4 - 8 times a year throughout childhood through her Mission - she got pneumonia when she got back and was put on another antibiotic and within a few doses had her first psychotic break</p>
<p>0:11:30</p>
<p>Sarah was on campus trying to find her way and she could see people dressed in pioneer era clothing - she was hauled off campus and put in the psych unit and put in a straight jacket for more then 36 hours</p>
<p>0:12:30</p>
<p>That was scary because she didn't know why they were putting her in a straight jacket - it was a very vulnerable place to be - that brought up childhood traumas she had with a babysitter - being in a straight jacket was very traumatic</p>
<p>0:13:30</p>
<p>Initially they told Sarah she was Bipolar with Psychosis - then was labeled with Schizoid Affective Disorder with Bipolar type, meaning she had symptoms of <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia'>schizophrenia</a> and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder'>bipolar</a> - then the medication they gave Sarah could not be metabolized by her body and she became <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catatonia'>catatonic</a> - they didn't realize <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonia'>ammonia</a> was marinating in her brain - it took about 4 years of those meds before she became completely catatonic</p>
<p>0:14:30</p>
<p>In those 4 years, Sarah was able to take 1 class at a time - she was determined and worked hard to get her degree in 8 years - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoaffective_disorder'>Schizo Affective Disorder </a>has symptoms of schizophrenia</p>
<p>0:15:30</p>
<p>'Positive' symptoms are 'added' to the patients experience: they see, hear, taste things others don't - 'negative' symptoms 'take away' from the person: motivation, ability to speak, organize thoughts and environment - those are the 'schizoid' part - 'affective' refers to mood0:16:30Lots of mental illnesses have affective disorders: mania with high energy, difficulty following thoughts, rash decisions, depression, difficulty processing info and energy or connect emotionally with people</p>
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<p>Voices in her head</p>
<p>0:17:30Sarah's problem was mixed mania, so all the energy of mania, and all the symptoms of depression - plus symptoms of schizophrenia, so for 12 years Sarah lived with voices 24/7 telling her how and why to kill herself - her brain was marinating in toxins - every time she started to believe the voices, she became very proactive in seeking out help - that was interpreted as attention-seeking, not trying to prevent her own demise</p>
<p>0:18:30S</p>
<p>arah would check herself into the hospital asking for help, and then be ridiculed for asking for help - she was called a 'frequent flyer' and a lot of things by staff, probably because they were frustrated they couldn't 'get the medications right' or thought Sarah wasn't being compliant - but Sarah always took her meds as prescribed, always filled her prescriptions on time because she had been trained to believe she needed those medications in order to survive, and she was not doing a very good job surviving</p>
<p>0:19:30</p>
<p>To Sarah, not taking the medications was not an option because she was told over and over that meds were the only way she'd be able to function - they kept trying different meds for psychosis, mood, depression, anxiety, and sleep - 5 classes of medications and Sarah cycled through 37 combinations and they played with the chemicals in her brain in order to find the 'right' combo that would stabilize her</p>
<p>0:20:30</p>
<p>It was difficult - they would try to make the hospital less welcoming so Sarah wouldn't want to come back because they thought she was attention-seeking - Sarah says 'dude, if I wanted to get attention I would do something good like write a book, or travel the world and set a record or something - nobody wants negative attention'</p>
<p>0:21:30</p>
<p>Sarah would endure strip searches every time she was hospitalized, which was every 3 - 5 weeks, but her father says it was more frequent because sometimes she'd be re-admitted within 72 hours - Sarah was marinating and they couldn't recognize that because there are not really any tests - they don't do cerebrospinal taps for these symptoms - they don't recognize encephalopathy very often unless its associated with seizures</p>
<p>0:22:30</p>
<p>Most doctors will just refer a patient to psychiatry instead of someone who understands encephalopathy - even a lot of encephalopathy not hepatic encephalopathy, her 1st diagnosis - and that wasn't diagnosed properly until 2.5 years ago - Sarah had learned a lot of adapting skills over the 12 years of hell</p>
<p>0:23:30</p>
<p>During that period because none of the meds worked, and Sarah became catatonic in 2002, they didn't do any blood work or brain scans to find out why she was catatonic, they just assumed they'd probably diagnosed her with schizophrenia - since she's not responding to the medications we'll give her a higher dose - when that didn't help, they said it was time to do shock treatment</p>
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<p>Shock treatment, aka ECT</p>
<p>0:24:30</p>
<p>They gave Sarah bilateral <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy'>electroconvulsive therapy (ECT)</a>, where they put the electrodes on either side of her forehead and used 460 volts of electricity to briefly stimulate the brain into a <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalized_tonic%E2%80%93clonic_seizure'>gran mal seizure</a> - they feel a therapeutic seizure should be at least 25 seconds - so if the patient doesn't seize for 25 seconds they will immediately give them more so they have another seizure - they gave Sarah ECT 3 times a week - but there was one time where she was ECTed twice in one day - every time a person seizes, the brain tries to protect itself and prevent itself from having a seizure</p>
<p>0:25:30</p>
<p>So they have to increase the voltage higher and higher - when there at 100% charge, it is 0.9MC which is below 1.0mc of immediate death - at 100% and the patient still isn't seizing, they put in an IV with caffeine so that it pushes the brain and body to the brink so you'll seize</p>
<p>0:26:30</p>
<p>They have to push through the anaesthesia and mood stabilizers that prevents seizures - the first several were not at 100% of the machines strength, but Sarah had more then a 100 at 100%, and 60% were also with IV caffeine</p>
<p>0:27:30</p>
<p>ECT was invented in Italy in 1938 - Italy has since banned it - it was brought to America - they never did safety studies - they never did any kind of scientific decision making about appropriate dosage or methods to use - there more then are 7 variables involved - it is not standardized - it is not regulated - it has never been safety tested - some people feel ECT has saved their lives - others feel ECT has destroyed their lives</p>
<p>0:28:30</p>
<p>And families will tell how ECT killed their loved one - Sarah had 116 ECT treatments over 18 months - from 2002 to 2004 - then over 14 months from 2006 to 2007 - Sarah quit against medical advice in 2007 - she was required to sign 'informed consent' before each ECT procedure, but they don't provide all the info - it says the most pressing concern would be headaches</p>
<p>0:30:30</p>
<p>Sarah had to tell them her biggest worry when filling out the forms, so she always put headache, as that was all she was told about potential side effects - but they don't understand the risks because they've never done longitudinal studies to see the long term effects or neurological factors or even addressing patient satisfaction because the the surveys get a very low response rate, like 28% - and then say of the 28% who returned the survey, 80% were happy</p>
<p>0:31:30</p>
<p>But some of those people who could not put the stamp on the letter, or needed help filling it out, or were so angry at what had been done to them that it would go immediately in the garbage - Sarah says it is interesting when you start to look at the research and ask critically 'what are they not telling us?' What are the holes in the methodology? They will use the MMSE (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini%E2%80%93Mental_State_Examination'>mini mental state examination</a>) a simple 18 question test for brain injury and dementia</p>
<p>0:32:30</p>
<p>What they don't say is that the MMSE can be passed by people who've had <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobotomy'>lobotomies</a> - so it is immaterial, it can't be used at school or work for accommodations - so not a good measure of the damage actually caused, but it is the most used assessment for people having ECT....if they're given an assessment, but most people are not</p>
<p></p>
<p>Memory loss</p>
<p>0:33:30</p>
<p>Sarah can't remember the first few ECT treatments because she can't remember the first 36 years of her life - she's lost 85-90% of her memories - she was 34 years old when she stopped ECT, but it took another 2 years for her brain to start to make new memories - Sarah has 38 journals and she reads them frequently so she knows what has happened in her life - so unless she's read it read recently, she wouldn't be able to tell many specifics</p>
<p>0:34:30</p>
<p>When Sarah 12 years old a Sunday School teacher told her about <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilford_Woodruff'>Wilford Woodruff</a> who wrote in a journal every day by the time he was 90 he had many volumes - at the time Sarah wanted to be a writer and decided she would journal daily - she's very grateful, without them she wouldn't know about family vacations or formative experiences - she doesn't remember her grandparents and holidays - all our life decisions are based on our previous experience and memories - our relationships are based on shared memories</p>
<p>0:35:30</p>
<p>It can be very challenging living without formative memories - Sarah had a massive identity crisis because she didn't know the symptoms of memory loss</p>
<p>0:36:30</p>
<p>When Sarah looks at pictures with her family, its like playing 'Where's Waldo' because if she can find herself in a picture, she knows she'd been there, but it doesn't trigger any memories - it has been a grieving process about her loss, but she's learned its not helpful to focus on her loss, she needs to be moving forward because she has a life that still needs to be lived</p>
<p>0:37:30</p>
<p>In 2015, Sarah was on her 37th combo of meds - she'd been on meds for 17 years and her meds just stopped working - they generally only work for 5 years, part of that the brain has become dependent and the dose has been raised as high as they can</p>
<p>0:38:30</p>
<p>Sarah had just been married, had just finished her Masters and just started working full time when her meds stopped working and she was scared spit less and she didn't want to freak out her husband who had never seen her when she was very symptomatic, and she didn't want to lose her job or all her colleagues have know because Sarah worked so hard to establish herself as a professional - she also worried about her family because she was finally starting to re-build bridges that had been burnt when she was very symptomatic</p>
<p>0:39:30</p>
<p>Sarah was trying to minimize her symptoms, but was very scared - a friend had been trying to get Sarah interested in micro-nutrition, but Sarah had put her off for 18 months - Sarah is a scientist at heart and the friend gave her the research to review - randomized control trials, solid methodology, so Sarah took the info to her psychiatrist and they decided to taper Sarah off the meds - but psychiatry is not prepared to taper people off meds</p>
<p>0:40:30</p>
<p>Sarah started taking the micronutrients and after a few weeks started to feel cognitively weird so talked to the manufacturer - they said you've been over-medicated and should taper off the meds, your brain now doesn't need the medications as much</p>
<p></p>
<p>An accurate diagnosis: Hepatic Encephalopathy</p>
<p>0:41:30</p>
<p>The psychiatrist says that Sarah is 50mg over the upper limit of the antidepressant, so they cut that 50mg first - Sarah never understood withdrawal until she worked with someone who didn't understand tapering - it was a very scary process, caused a lot of problems</p>
<p>0:42:30</p>
<p>They learned to support Sarah's body by supporting it enzymatically , a lot of amino acids, specifically protein isolate to support her blood sugar - she drank shakes every 90 minutes and she would function very well, but if she missed the protein isolate shake she would deteriorate very fast</p>
<p>0:43:30</p>
<p>Sarah had a friend who was getting amino acid IV, so Sarah started looking and found <a href='http://www.candidamd.com/about/humiston.html'>Dr John Humiston</a> and he recognized the symptoms of withdrawal - by this time Sarah had been off the meds for 18 months - he said they first needed to get her gut healthy before amino acid IVs</p>
<p>0:44:30</p>
<p>Sarah was like 'dude, food has never affected me, hurt or harmed me, don't worry about it' - but he had Sarah track her diet and then cut out fermented foods, sprouted food, nuts, dairy, a whole swath of food - he recognized all those antibiotics Sarah had as a child caused an overgrowth of <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_(fungus)'>candida</a> and that caused <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatic_encephalopathy'>hepatic encephalopathy</a> - Sarah went home and cleared the kitchen of foods that did not meet the new diet</p>
<p>0:45:30</p>
<p>Within 3 days, the psychosis Sarah had been experiencing left and she hasn't had it since - except once when she took an antibiotic for a kidney infection - by the 2nd dose she was being followed by someone she knew was dead</p>
<p>0:46:30</p>
<p>And being talked to by a dead ancestor - by the 3rd dose she was paranoid, pacing, pulling her hair out, non-verbal, shaking, sweating - her family took her to the ER but she didn't want to go back and being given meds, she'd just gotten off them - Sarah knew she needed to occupy her mind with something systematic, so she began folding paper, tearing it, just doing something very basic</p>
<p>0:47:30</p>
<p>When the psychiatrist saw the very tiny pieces of paper he asked Sarah what was going on - she said she thought he had cameras watching her, but she realizes her brain is on fire and she needs to reign it in - he looks at Sarah and said 'I've never had anyone say that before - tell me more' - Sarah told him she was faculty as <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_State_University'>San Diego State University</a> and teach in the clinical classes about psychiatric rehabilitation and recovery and this is one of the strategies I teach people who are dealing with false voices that are distressing and they need something simple as distraction - he says 'you're doing a good job, you can go home' - that was the 1st time Sarah had gone to an ER and walked out</p>
<p>0:48:30</p>
<p>Sarah says we have yeast producing bacteria in our stomach to process food, and when they ferment our food they produce over 20 different alcohols as by-products, in small amounts is no big deal - but if you have fungal over growth they produce a lot of by-products</p>
<p></p>
<p>Dystonia</p>
<p>0:49:30</p>
<p>That goes for bacterial by-products too - we need to have a healthy balance of bacteria, yeast and fungus in our guts, if we don't these by-products start producing too much of these alcohols like acetone, acetate and start marinating the brain and can cause problems with behaviour, emotion, sleep, autoimmune - because brain and body trying to maintain healthy balance - Sarah found a doctor who put her on anti-fungal medication and within 3 days all of her psychiatric symptoms were gone</p>
<p>0:50:30</p>
<p>Sarah tries not to dwell on the fact that a strict diet and anti-fungals may have prevents 17 years of suffering - missed out getting married earlier, missed out on having kids, missed out working and earning a retirement, missed out on family events</p>
<p>0:51:30</p>
<p>It caused a lot of strife and hardship on Sarah's family - if she dwells on it she gets pulled into the 'poor me' gravitational pit, so Sarah works hard on re-focusing on gratitude and here and now, and focusing on what she can do to prevent this from happening to other people - Sarah has to make meaning of her experience, its the only thing she can do</p>
<p>0:52:30</p>
<p>Sarah takes that sense of oppression, injustice, being misunderstood, misjudged, judged harshly - Sarah needs to make sense of her experience so that she can feel like what she went through was not in vain - Sarah has been on the strict diet for 2.5 years and must adhere to it</p>
<p>0:53:30</p>
<p>She was on anti-fungal meds for a looooong time: 18 months - since she'd been infected for a looooong time - she still takes supplements to support her gut - but about 7.5 years after the last shock treatment, Sarah experienced a worsening of neurological symptoms, worse then she'd ever had before - problems with muscle twitches (fasciculations) and fatigue easier, problems with her voice</p>
<p>0:54:30</p>
<p>Sarah started to have <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystonia'>dystonia</a>, especially the muscles in her neck, and started have dizziness when exposed to a lot of visual or auditory hallucination - so in the car this past April, she was driving for about 45 minutes and by the time she got to University to teach, she had difficulty standing to get out of her car</p>
<p>0:55:30</p>
<p>Sarah started to have muscle contractions on one side of her body, she didn't realize she'd been over-stimulated driving - she then drove to her doctors appointment, a 50 minute drive, and then started to have muscle contractions on the left side of her body and pull her it into a contorted position</p>
<p>0:56:30</p>
<p>Sarah then started to feel a current of electricity down her sternum with diaphragmic paralysis - then she'd be able to breathe again - then the right side of her body would have contraction and contort her body into weird positions - in went back and forth for the next 4 hours - it was intense at first, then less so with more time between - her doctor started to refer her to a neurologist and she saw lots of them</p>
<p></p>
<p>Iatrogenic hot potato</p>
<p>0:57:30</p>
<p>When they see Sarah has a history of shock treatment, then the orders for their testing don't get placed, for brain scans, EMGs, etc - instead Sarah is referred to another neurologist, and so and so on - Sarah is now on her 7th neurologist - Sarah has become an iatrogenic hot potato - she thinks the neurologist recognize that she was harmed by treatment, so they keep passing her along</p>
<p>0:58:30</p>
<p>Finally Sarah found a functional neurologist, he was first a chiropractor then did 2 years of neurology - he did VNG (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videonystagmography'>Videonystagmography</a>) - they put goggles on Sarah to track her eye movements and move dots in her vision - supposed to be 45 minute test in a bunch of different ways</p>
<p>0:59:30</p>
<p>The interesting thing was they were able to create a concussion response - with that stimulation, one of Sarah's pupil's was huge - they stopped the testing and said they needed to let her brain rest, and then continue the testing later</p>
<p>1:00:30</p>
<p>A decade previous, Sarah found a brain injury specialist, and she asked why Sarah why she was wearing sunglasses indoors, Sarah said 'when I take them off I get a bad headache' - the specialist said 'oh, you have a brain injury' and Sarah said 'no, I had shock treatment' - the specialist said shock treatment is brain injury - but Sarah protested that her doctor told her the symptom would go away - since then, Sarah has learned through research that one doctor, a neurologist at Berkeley, outspoken against ECT spoke at the New York State Assembly</p>
<p>1:01:30</p>
<p>He told them the ECT put out 100 joules of electricity, that is the equivalent force of dropping 73 pounds (30 kg) onto a brain from a foot (33 cm) above it - for Sarah that was 116 times, so essentially Sarah has a repetitive brain injury and developed the bulgar symptoms seen in people with motor neuron disease</p>
<p>1:02:30</p>
<p>Motor neuron disease have 4 risk factors: people with ALS get it due genetics; people with toxic exposures; people with a history of electric injury; people with history of repetitive injury - Sarah doesn't have the genetic component, but does have the other</p>
<p>1:03:30</p>
<p>Sarah neurologist says she probably has a conversion disorder since she's not happy with her ECT experience - Sarah says that doesn't explain the saliva problems, speaking problems, breathing problems, thinking, walking, heart, etc - Sarah found a good GP who would order the tests the neurologist wouldn't order so she can take the results to the neurologist</p>
<p>1:04:30</p>
<p>The ECT research is constructed so that they don't talk about electrical injury - they never track patients more than 9 months - delayed <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_injury'>electrical injury</a> happens 2.5 to 10 years after treatment - Sarah's onset was about 7.5 years after her last ECT - and Sarah has worsened since then</p>
<p>1:05:30</p>
<p>Research on delayed low voltage electrical injury have studied quite a few people - low voltage is less then 1,000 volts - electrical injury has 2 components: the immediate effect - for Sarah this was memory loss, balance issues, proprioception issues</p>
<p></p>
<p>Delayed electrical injury</p>
<p>1:06:30</p>
<p>Aphagia, word finding problems, executive function - but they've realized that a lot of people with electrical injury have 'delayed electrical injury' - that research shows a lot of motor neuron problems - it fascinating they've been able to separate these 2 things (electrical injury vs ECT)</p>
<p>1:07:30</p>
<p>But natural law doesn't respond to benevolent intent - good intentions is not going to change how the human cell responds to electricity - it is so apparent that delayed electrical injury and ECT survivors share the same speech, swallowing, dystonia</p>
<p>1:08:30</p>
<p>Fatigue and dropping things because no longer have ability to hold them - we're on a spectrum - Sarah knows 4 people who've had ECT and are on that symptom spectrum - it needs to be studied - Sarah has annotated bibliography connecting the research on low voltage injury, delayed voltage injury, and ECT and she needs it to be published</p>
<p>1:09:30</p>
<p>Doctors are siloed in their research and not connecting dots among themselves - they assume the organ they specialize in is not connected to the rest of the body - we can't have siloed research, they are excluding important data - Sarah would never have thought that her neurological symptoms had anything to do with the ECT if not for another person who had ECT and has similar symptoms to Sarah, and this person was forced to retire from being a trauma nurse</p>
<p>1:10:30</p>
<p>When the nurse heard Sarah's story, she told Sarah she had to look into electrical injury research - Sarah was like 'dude, I was never told any of this when I was given my 'informed consent'' - recently, one of the manufacturers of ECT devices had a lawsuit against them and they settled out of court</p>
<p>1:11:30</p>
<p>Shortly after that, the manufacturer updated their user guide, and buried on page 4 is '7 risks associated with permanent brain damage and permanent memory loss' - all the informed consents need to be update, internationally - patients need to know about the risk of permanent brain damage, permanent memory loss - a lot of doctors don't take these risks very seriously so don't inform their patients about them, and minimize the risks - because it is not standardized or regulated, every doctor does it differently</p>
<p>1:12:30</p>
<p>Doctors are never followed ECT patients longitudinally - an inpatient doctor will not be following up with that patient 5 or 10 years later, so they're not going to be seeing the effect that survivors are seeing among themselves - that is why <a href='http://chng.it/rBGJNSKB5m'>Sarah started an international petition</a> to update informed consent, update core competencies for doctors trained and certified to give ECT, pre-assessments and post-assessments to track longitudinally</p>
<p>1:13:30</p>
<p>When people starting having cognitive problems, they are not even assessed for brain injury and given rehab for a better quality of life - Sarah had to navigate living with ECT brain by herself, with her family saying 'the doctors said your memory would return, so get over it' and her doctor saying 'you'll get your memory back, so get over it' - it is a constant battle - going forward, if we had something safety tested......"Sorry, I'm getting dizzy"</p>
<p></p>
<p>Sarah's speech deteriorates during interview</p>
<p>1:14:30</p>
<p>Scott: Sarah's speaking deteriorates - she says we should end the interview - I am concerned about her immediate well being - I ask if I should stay on the line with her to make sure she's safe</p>
<p>1:15:30</p>
<p>Sarah says she should lie down because "her brain stem does better when its not under pressure" and carries her laptop with her and lays down on the floor - Sarah takes a few breathes and says "Its like immediately" and voice is perfectly clear, unlike the entire interview when she was sitting up - I ask Sarah if she needs to call any one? - She says she'll just hang out on the floor for a while</p>
<p>1:16:30</p>
<p>Sarah says "Its weird to find your new normal. Who would've thought when you were a kid 'by new normal will be laying on the floor so I can think and speak clearly" - we laugh at the absurdity of it all - Sarah continues: when she did the research into the neuropathology of the animals they tested, and the autopsies they did in the '50s, all the animals had compressed brainstems from ECT - so Sarah's symptoms are very consistent with the animal studies - and consistent to what you would expect to see in a human</p>
<p>1:17:30</p>
<p>I ask Sarah if she's heard of '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craniocervical_instability'>cranio cervical instability</a> (CCI)'? Sarah says she recently heard of someone with mold exposure who has CCI - I reply "<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Brea'>Jen Brea</a>" and Sarah confirms and says she has a history of mold exposure - the building she did her research has history of flooding and a bad roof - one time when she came home from vacation, she had left her air conditioning on in her small apartment, the water drain had plugged and that caused a water bulge in the paint - it took the building manager 3 weeks to replace the wall and carpe</p>
<p>1:18:30</p>
<p>You can't isolate any of things Sarah has experienced, as humans, our body keeps the score, it is influenced by what it is exposed to, and throughout our life, it becomes a cumulative effect - I tell Sarah that I will send her <a href='https://www.mechanicalbasis.org/'>Jeff Wood's website link</a>, Jeff is 'patient zero' for CCI and it was his experience that prompted Jen Brea to look into CCI</p>
<p>1:19:30</p>
<p>Jeff was bedridden for 3 years - they both had neck surgery and are almost completely symptom-free - Sarah says the idea of surgery scares her to death - she's been exposed to so many of the gaba drugs that she's developed acute respiratory responses when given anaesthesia - even lidocaine or novocaine will trigger <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrenic_nerve'>phrenetic nerve</a> paralysis - it will look like Sarah is having convulsions, but it is the frenetic nerve malfunctioning1:20:30Sarah says "My poor body, I'm doing the best I can, I'm only 44 years old and I'm having a lot of problems"</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first became aware of Sarah when she shared a video clip on twitter of her waiting for an appointment sitting in her wheelchair. Her voice was strained and she was a bit difficult to understand, but as soon as Sarah was in a horizontal position her voice was clear as a bell. I immediately reached out to Sarah to learn more about her incredible health care journey. </p>
<p>Doctors diagnosed Sarah with Schizoid Affective Disorder and gave her antipsychotic medications. When those didn’t work, they gave Sarah over 116 rounds of electric shock therapy  - they put electrodes on Sarah’s temples and zapped her with electricity so her brain had a seizure. Doctors also had Sarah on 5 classes of psychiatric medications amounting to 37 different combinations. In spite of this, for 12 years Sarah lived with voices in her head 24/7 telling her how and why to kill herself - all while working toward her Masters Degree.</p>
<p>As Sarah would eventually discover with a proper diagnosis, her psychiatric symptoms were not from schizo affective disorder, they were from hepatic encephalopathy and her brain was marinating in toxins. Once Sarah received proper treatment the voices disappeared. But that’s not the end of Sarah’s story - all those electric shock treatments have damaged Sarah’s brain affecting her speech, memory, and ability to walk. </p>
<p>We had to end Sarah’s interview prematurely as you’ll hear, when she was overcome with dizziness, her speech quickly deteriorated, and she had to lie down on the floor to remove the pressure on her brainstem. Listen to how Sarah’s voice changes during this - Sarah’s final words are in the voice she had before electrical brain injury.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p></p>
<p>First Psychosis</p>
<p>0:06:30</p>
<p>Sarah grew up in sunny <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego'>San Diego</a>, a 3rd generation San Diegan - wonderful parents, but struggles like all families - Sarah is the oldest child and only daughter - when frustrated her Dad would say 'Well Sarah, I've not had a daughter before' - she has 2 younger brothers - her parents did their best to provide a loving and supportive environment</p>
<p>0:08:30</p>
<p>Sarah's Mom is a wonderful lady, but they did butt heads - they have reconciled and Sarah considers her Mom to be one of her best friends now - after high school Sarah moved to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexburg,_Idaho'>Rexburg</a>, Idaho where she learned about living in snow and -30 Fahrenheit</p>
<p>0:09:30</p>
<p>Sarah went to a college made famous by (the film) <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_Dynamite'>Napolean Dynamite</a>, called Rex College, but now known as <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_Young_University%E2%80%93Idaho'>Brigham Young University Idaho</a> - graduated and transferred to BYU (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_Young_University'>Brigham Young University</a>) in Provo, Utah - after 1 semester studying English, Sarah served a mission for <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints'>Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints</a> and learned to speak Spanish and serve the people of Texas - after 18 months Sarah was invited to join the American Sign Language program and worked for 2 months with deaf people - and then returned home to BYU</p>
<p>0:10:30</p>
<p>Sarah had bad chronic and seasonal allergies causing asthma, sinus infections and bronchitis - growing up Sarah had been given a lot of antibiotics, like 4 - 8 times a year throughout childhood through her Mission - she got pneumonia when she got back and was put on another antibiotic and within a few doses had her first psychotic break</p>
<p>0:11:30</p>
<p>Sarah was on campus trying to find her way and she could see people dressed in pioneer era clothing - she was hauled off campus and put in the psych unit and put in a straight jacket for more then 36 hours</p>
<p>0:12:30</p>
<p>That was scary because she didn't know why they were putting her in a straight jacket - it was a very vulnerable place to be - that brought up childhood traumas she had with a babysitter - being in a straight jacket was very traumatic</p>
<p>0:13:30</p>
<p>Initially they told Sarah she was Bipolar with Psychosis - then was labeled with Schizoid Affective Disorder with Bipolar type, meaning she had symptoms of <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia'>schizophrenia</a> and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder'>bipolar</a> - then the medication they gave Sarah could not be metabolized by her body and she became <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catatonia'>catatonic</a> - they didn't realize <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonia'>ammonia</a> was marinating in her brain - it took about 4 years of those meds before she became completely catatonic</p>
<p>0:14:30</p>
<p>In those 4 years, Sarah was able to take 1 class at a time - she was determined and worked hard to get her degree in 8 years - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoaffective_disorder'>Schizo Affective Disorder </a>has symptoms of schizophrenia</p>
<p>0:15:30</p>
<p>'Positive' symptoms are 'added' to the patients experience: they see, hear, taste things others don't - 'negative' symptoms 'take away' from the person: motivation, ability to speak, organize thoughts and environment - those are the 'schizoid' part - 'affective' refers to mood0:16:30Lots of mental illnesses have affective disorders: mania with high energy, difficulty following thoughts, rash decisions, depression, difficulty processing info and energy or connect emotionally with people</p>
<p></p>
<p>Voices in her head</p>
<p>0:17:30Sarah's problem was mixed mania, so all the energy of mania, and all the symptoms of depression - plus symptoms of schizophrenia, so for 12 years Sarah lived with voices 24/7 telling her how and why to kill herself - her brain was marinating in toxins - every time she started to believe the voices, she became very proactive in seeking out help - that was interpreted as attention-seeking, not trying to prevent her own demise</p>
<p>0:18:30S</p>
<p>arah would check herself into the hospital asking for help, and then be ridiculed for asking for help - she was called a 'frequent flyer' and a lot of things by staff, probably because they were frustrated they couldn't 'get the medications right' or thought Sarah wasn't being compliant - but Sarah always took her meds as prescribed, always filled her prescriptions on time because she had been trained to believe she needed those medications in order to survive, and she was not doing a very good job surviving</p>
<p>0:19:30</p>
<p>To Sarah, not taking the medications was not an option because she was told over and over that meds were the only way she'd be able to function - they kept trying different meds for psychosis, mood, depression, anxiety, and sleep - 5 classes of medications and Sarah cycled through 37 combinations and they played with the chemicals in her brain in order to find the 'right' combo that would stabilize her</p>
<p>0:20:30</p>
<p>It was difficult - they would try to make the hospital less welcoming so Sarah wouldn't want to come back because they thought she was attention-seeking - Sarah says 'dude, if I wanted to get attention I would do something good like write a book, or travel the world and set a record or something - nobody wants negative attention'</p>
<p>0:21:30</p>
<p>Sarah would endure strip searches every time she was hospitalized, which was every 3 - 5 weeks, but her father says it was more frequent because sometimes she'd be re-admitted within 72 hours - Sarah was marinating and they couldn't recognize that because there are not really any tests - they don't do cerebrospinal taps for these symptoms - they don't recognize encephalopathy very often unless its associated with seizures</p>
<p>0:22:30</p>
<p>Most doctors will just refer a patient to psychiatry instead of someone who understands encephalopathy - even a lot of encephalopathy not hepatic encephalopathy, her 1st diagnosis - and that wasn't diagnosed properly until 2.5 years ago - Sarah had learned a lot of adapting skills over the 12 years of hell</p>
<p>0:23:30</p>
<p>During that period because none of the meds worked, and Sarah became catatonic in 2002, they didn't do any blood work or brain scans to find out why she was catatonic, they just assumed they'd probably diagnosed her with schizophrenia - since she's not responding to the medications we'll give her a higher dose - when that didn't help, they said it was time to do shock treatment</p>
<p></p>
<p>Shock treatment, aka ECT</p>
<p>0:24:30</p>
<p>They gave Sarah bilateral <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy'>electroconvulsive therapy (ECT)</a>, where they put the electrodes on either side of her forehead and used 460 volts of electricity to briefly stimulate the brain into a <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalized_tonic%E2%80%93clonic_seizure'>gran mal seizure</a> - they feel a therapeutic seizure should be at least 25 seconds - so if the patient doesn't seize for 25 seconds they will immediately give them more so they have another seizure - they gave Sarah ECT 3 times a week - but there was one time where she was ECTed twice in one day - every time a person seizes, the brain tries to protect itself and prevent itself from having a seizure</p>
<p>0:25:30</p>
<p>So they have to increase the voltage higher and higher - when there at 100% charge, it is 0.9MC which is below 1.0mc of immediate death - at 100% and the patient still isn't seizing, they put in an IV with caffeine so that it pushes the brain and body to the brink so you'll seize</p>
<p>0:26:30</p>
<p>They have to push through the anaesthesia and mood stabilizers that prevents seizures - the first several were not at 100% of the machines strength, but Sarah had more then a 100 at 100%, and 60% were also with IV caffeine</p>
<p>0:27:30</p>
<p>ECT was invented in Italy in 1938 - Italy has since banned it - it was brought to America - they never did safety studies - they never did any kind of scientific decision making about appropriate dosage or methods to use - there more then are 7 variables involved - it is not standardized - it is not regulated - it has never been safety tested - some people feel ECT has saved their lives - others feel ECT has destroyed their lives</p>
<p>0:28:30</p>
<p>And families will tell how ECT killed their loved one - Sarah had 116 ECT treatments over 18 months - from 2002 to 2004 - then over 14 months from 2006 to 2007 - Sarah quit against medical advice in 2007 - she was required to sign 'informed consent' before each ECT procedure, but they don't provide all the info - it says the most pressing concern would be headaches</p>
<p>0:30:30</p>
<p>Sarah had to tell them her biggest worry when filling out the forms, so she always put headache, as that was all she was told about potential side effects - but they don't understand the risks because they've never done longitudinal studies to see the long term effects or neurological factors or even addressing patient satisfaction because the the surveys get a very low response rate, like 28% - and then say of the 28% who returned the survey, 80% were happy</p>
<p>0:31:30</p>
<p>But some of those people who could not put the stamp on the letter, or needed help filling it out, or were so angry at what had been done to them that it would go immediately in the garbage - Sarah says it is interesting when you start to look at the research and ask critically 'what are they not telling us?' What are the holes in the methodology? They will use the MMSE (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini%E2%80%93Mental_State_Examination'>mini mental state examination</a>) a simple 18 question test for brain injury and dementia</p>
<p>0:32:30</p>
<p>What they don't say is that the MMSE can be passed by people who've had <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobotomy'>lobotomies</a> - so it is immaterial, it can't be used at school or work for accommodations - so not a good measure of the damage actually caused, but it is the most used assessment for people having ECT....if they're given an assessment, but most people are not</p>
<p></p>
<p>Memory loss</p>
<p>0:33:30</p>
<p>Sarah can't remember the first few ECT treatments because she can't remember the first 36 years of her life - she's lost 85-90% of her memories - she was 34 years old when she stopped ECT, but it took another 2 years for her brain to start to make new memories - Sarah has 38 journals and she reads them frequently so she knows what has happened in her life - so unless she's read it read recently, she wouldn't be able to tell many specifics</p>
<p>0:34:30</p>
<p>When Sarah 12 years old a Sunday School teacher told her about <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilford_Woodruff'>Wilford Woodruff</a> who wrote in a journal every day by the time he was 90 he had many volumes - at the time Sarah wanted to be a writer and decided she would journal daily - she's very grateful, without them she wouldn't know about family vacations or formative experiences - she doesn't remember her grandparents and holidays - all our life decisions are based on our previous experience and memories - our relationships are based on shared memories</p>
<p>0:35:30</p>
<p>It can be very challenging living without formative memories - Sarah had a massive identity crisis because she didn't know the symptoms of memory loss</p>
<p>0:36:30</p>
<p>When Sarah looks at pictures with her family, its like playing 'Where's Waldo' because if she can find herself in a picture, she knows she'd been there, but it doesn't trigger any memories - it has been a grieving process about her loss, but she's learned its not helpful to focus on her loss, she needs to be moving forward because she has a life that still needs to be lived</p>
<p>0:37:30</p>
<p>In 2015, Sarah was on her 37th combo of meds - she'd been on meds for 17 years and her meds just stopped working - they generally only work for 5 years, part of that the brain has become dependent and the dose has been raised as high as they can</p>
<p>0:38:30</p>
<p>Sarah had just been married, had just finished her Masters and just started working full time when her meds stopped working and she was scared spit less and she didn't want to freak out her husband who had never seen her when she was very symptomatic, and she didn't want to lose her job or all her colleagues have know because Sarah worked so hard to establish herself as a professional - she also worried about her family because she was finally starting to re-build bridges that had been burnt when she was very symptomatic</p>
<p>0:39:30</p>
<p>Sarah was trying to minimize her symptoms, but was very scared - a friend had been trying to get Sarah interested in micro-nutrition, but Sarah had put her off for 18 months - Sarah is a scientist at heart and the friend gave her the research to review - randomized control trials, solid methodology, so Sarah took the info to her psychiatrist and they decided to taper Sarah off the meds - but psychiatry is not prepared to taper people off meds</p>
<p>0:40:30</p>
<p>Sarah started taking the micronutrients and after a few weeks started to feel cognitively weird so talked to the manufacturer - they said you've been over-medicated and should taper off the meds, your brain now doesn't need the medications as much</p>
<p></p>
<p>An accurate diagnosis: Hepatic Encephalopathy</p>
<p>0:41:30</p>
<p>The psychiatrist says that Sarah is 50mg over the upper limit of the antidepressant, so they cut that 50mg first - Sarah never understood withdrawal until she worked with someone who didn't understand tapering - it was a very scary process, caused a lot of problems</p>
<p>0:42:30</p>
<p>They learned to support Sarah's body by supporting it enzymatically , a lot of amino acids, specifically protein isolate to support her blood sugar - she drank shakes every 90 minutes and she would function very well, but if she missed the protein isolate shake she would deteriorate very fast</p>
<p>0:43:30</p>
<p>Sarah had a friend who was getting amino acid IV, so Sarah started looking and found <a href='http://www.candidamd.com/about/humiston.html'>Dr John Humiston</a> and he recognized the symptoms of withdrawal - by this time Sarah had been off the meds for 18 months - he said they first needed to get her gut healthy before amino acid IVs</p>
<p>0:44:30</p>
<p>Sarah was like 'dude, food has never affected me, hurt or harmed me, don't worry about it' - but he had Sarah track her diet and then cut out fermented foods, sprouted food, nuts, dairy, a whole swath of food - he recognized all those antibiotics Sarah had as a child caused an overgrowth of <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_(fungus)'>candida</a> and that caused <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatic_encephalopathy'>hepatic encephalopathy</a> - Sarah went home and cleared the kitchen of foods that did not meet the new diet</p>
<p>0:45:30</p>
<p>Within 3 days, the psychosis Sarah had been experiencing left and she hasn't had it since - except once when she took an antibiotic for a kidney infection - by the 2nd dose she was being followed by someone she knew was dead</p>
<p>0:46:30</p>
<p>And being talked to by a dead ancestor - by the 3rd dose she was paranoid, pacing, pulling her hair out, non-verbal, shaking, sweating - her family took her to the ER but she didn't want to go back and being given meds, she'd just gotten off them - Sarah knew she needed to occupy her mind with something systematic, so she began folding paper, tearing it, just doing something very basic</p>
<p>0:47:30</p>
<p>When the psychiatrist saw the very tiny pieces of paper he asked Sarah what was going on - she said she thought he had cameras watching her, but she realizes her brain is on fire and she needs to reign it in - he looks at Sarah and said 'I've never had anyone say that before - tell me more' - Sarah told him she was faculty as <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_State_University'>San Diego State University</a> and teach in the clinical classes about psychiatric rehabilitation and recovery and this is one of the strategies I teach people who are dealing with false voices that are distressing and they need something simple as distraction - he says 'you're doing a good job, you can go home' - that was the 1st time Sarah had gone to an ER and walked out</p>
<p>0:48:30</p>
<p>Sarah says we have yeast producing bacteria in our stomach to process food, and when they ferment our food they produce over 20 different alcohols as by-products, in small amounts is no big deal - but if you have fungal over growth they produce a lot of by-products</p>
<p></p>
<p>Dystonia</p>
<p>0:49:30</p>
<p>That goes for bacterial by-products too - we need to have a healthy balance of bacteria, yeast and fungus in our guts, if we don't these by-products start producing too much of these alcohols like acetone, acetate and start marinating the brain and can cause problems with behaviour, emotion, sleep, autoimmune - because brain and body trying to maintain healthy balance - Sarah found a doctor who put her on anti-fungal medication and within 3 days all of her psychiatric symptoms were gone</p>
<p>0:50:30</p>
<p>Sarah tries not to dwell on the fact that a strict diet and anti-fungals may have prevents 17 years of suffering - missed out getting married earlier, missed out on having kids, missed out working and earning a retirement, missed out on family events</p>
<p>0:51:30</p>
<p>It caused a lot of strife and hardship on Sarah's family - if she dwells on it she gets pulled into the 'poor me' gravitational pit, so Sarah works hard on re-focusing on gratitude and here and now, and focusing on what she can do to prevent this from happening to other people - Sarah has to make meaning of her experience, its the only thing she can do</p>
<p>0:52:30</p>
<p>Sarah takes that sense of oppression, injustice, being misunderstood, misjudged, judged harshly - Sarah needs to make sense of her experience so that she can feel like what she went through was not in vain - Sarah has been on the strict diet for 2.5 years and must adhere to it</p>
<p>0:53:30</p>
<p>She was on anti-fungal meds for a looooong time: 18 months - since she'd been infected for a looooong time - she still takes supplements to support her gut - but about 7.5 years after the last shock treatment, Sarah experienced a worsening of neurological symptoms, worse then she'd ever had before - problems with muscle twitches (fasciculations) and fatigue easier, problems with her voice</p>
<p>0:54:30</p>
<p>Sarah started to have <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystonia'>dystonia</a>, especially the muscles in her neck, and started have dizziness when exposed to a lot of visual or auditory hallucination - so in the car this past April, she was driving for about 45 minutes and by the time she got to University to teach, she had difficulty standing to get out of her car</p>
<p>0:55:30</p>
<p>Sarah started to have muscle contractions on one side of her body, she didn't realize she'd been over-stimulated driving - she then drove to her doctors appointment, a 50 minute drive, and then started to have muscle contractions on the left side of her body and pull her it into a contorted position</p>
<p>0:56:30</p>
<p>Sarah then started to feel a current of electricity down her sternum with diaphragmic paralysis - then she'd be able to breathe again - then the right side of her body would have contraction and contort her body into weird positions - in went back and forth for the next 4 hours - it was intense at first, then less so with more time between - her doctor started to refer her to a neurologist and she saw lots of them</p>
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<p>Iatrogenic hot potato</p>
<p>0:57:30</p>
<p>When they see Sarah has a history of shock treatment, then the orders for their testing don't get placed, for brain scans, EMGs, etc - instead Sarah is referred to another neurologist, and so and so on - Sarah is now on her 7th neurologist - Sarah has become an iatrogenic hot potato - she thinks the neurologist recognize that she was harmed by treatment, so they keep passing her along</p>
<p>0:58:30</p>
<p>Finally Sarah found a functional neurologist, he was first a chiropractor then did 2 years of neurology - he did VNG (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videonystagmography'>Videonystagmography</a>) - they put goggles on Sarah to track her eye movements and move dots in her vision - supposed to be 45 minute test in a bunch of different ways</p>
<p>0:59:30</p>
<p>The interesting thing was they were able to create a concussion response - with that stimulation, one of Sarah's pupil's was huge - they stopped the testing and said they needed to let her brain rest, and then continue the testing later</p>
<p>1:00:30</p>
<p>A decade previous, Sarah found a brain injury specialist, and she asked why Sarah why she was wearing sunglasses indoors, Sarah said 'when I take them off I get a bad headache' - the specialist said 'oh, you have a brain injury' and Sarah said 'no, I had shock treatment' - the specialist said shock treatment is brain injury - but Sarah protested that her doctor told her the symptom would go away - since then, Sarah has learned through research that one doctor, a neurologist at Berkeley, outspoken against ECT spoke at the New York State Assembly</p>
<p>1:01:30</p>
<p>He told them the ECT put out 100 joules of electricity, that is the equivalent force of dropping 73 pounds (30 kg) onto a brain from a foot (33 cm) above it - for Sarah that was 116 times, so essentially Sarah has a repetitive brain injury and developed the bulgar symptoms seen in people with motor neuron disease</p>
<p>1:02:30</p>
<p>Motor neuron disease have 4 risk factors: people with ALS get it due genetics; people with toxic exposures; people with a history of electric injury; people with history of repetitive injury - Sarah doesn't have the genetic component, but does have the other</p>
<p>1:03:30</p>
<p>Sarah neurologist says she probably has a conversion disorder since she's not happy with her ECT experience - Sarah says that doesn't explain the saliva problems, speaking problems, breathing problems, thinking, walking, heart, etc - Sarah found a good GP who would order the tests the neurologist wouldn't order so she can take the results to the neurologist</p>
<p>1:04:30</p>
<p>The ECT research is constructed so that they don't talk about electrical injury - they never track patients more than 9 months - delayed <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_injury'>electrical injury</a> happens 2.5 to 10 years after treatment - Sarah's onset was about 7.5 years after her last ECT - and Sarah has worsened since then</p>
<p>1:05:30</p>
<p>Research on delayed low voltage electrical injury have studied quite a few people - low voltage is less then 1,000 volts - electrical injury has 2 components: the immediate effect - for Sarah this was memory loss, balance issues, proprioception issues</p>
<p></p>
<p>Delayed electrical injury</p>
<p>1:06:30</p>
<p>Aphagia, word finding problems, executive function - but they've realized that a lot of people with electrical injury have 'delayed electrical injury' - that research shows a lot of motor neuron problems - it fascinating they've been able to separate these 2 things (electrical injury vs ECT)</p>
<p>1:07:30</p>
<p>But natural law doesn't respond to benevolent intent - good intentions is not going to change how the human cell responds to electricity - it is so apparent that delayed electrical injury and ECT survivors share the same speech, swallowing, dystonia</p>
<p>1:08:30</p>
<p>Fatigue and dropping things because no longer have ability to hold them - we're on a spectrum - Sarah knows 4 people who've had ECT and are on that symptom spectrum - it needs to be studied - Sarah has annotated bibliography connecting the research on low voltage injury, delayed voltage injury, and ECT and she needs it to be published</p>
<p>1:09:30</p>
<p>Doctors are siloed in their research and not connecting dots among themselves - they assume the organ they specialize in is not connected to the rest of the body - we can't have siloed research, they are excluding important data - Sarah would never have thought that her neurological symptoms had anything to do with the ECT if not for another person who had ECT and has similar symptoms to Sarah, and this person was forced to retire from being a trauma nurse</p>
<p>1:10:30</p>
<p>When the nurse heard Sarah's story, she told Sarah she had to look into electrical injury research - Sarah was like 'dude, I was never told any of this when I was given my 'informed consent'' - recently, one of the manufacturers of ECT devices had a lawsuit against them and they settled out of court</p>
<p>1:11:30</p>
<p>Shortly after that, the manufacturer updated their user guide, and buried on page 4 is '7 risks associated with permanent brain damage and permanent memory loss' - all the informed consents need to be update, internationally - patients need to know about the risk of permanent brain damage, permanent memory loss - a lot of doctors don't take these risks very seriously so don't inform their patients about them, and minimize the risks - because it is not standardized or regulated, every doctor does it differently</p>
<p>1:12:30</p>
<p>Doctors are never followed ECT patients longitudinally - an inpatient doctor will not be following up with that patient 5 or 10 years later, so they're not going to be seeing the effect that survivors are seeing among themselves - that is why <a href='http://chng.it/rBGJNSKB5m'>Sarah started an international petition</a> to update informed consent, update core competencies for doctors trained and certified to give ECT, pre-assessments and post-assessments to track longitudinally</p>
<p>1:13:30</p>
<p>When people starting having cognitive problems, they are not even assessed for brain injury and given rehab for a better quality of life - Sarah had to navigate living with ECT brain by herself, with her family saying 'the doctors said your memory would return, so get over it' and her doctor saying 'you'll get your memory back, so get over it' - it is a constant battle - going forward, if we had something safety tested......"Sorry, I'm getting dizzy"</p>
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<p>Sarah's speech deteriorates during interview</p>
<p>1:14:30</p>
<p>Scott: Sarah's speaking deteriorates - she says we should end the interview - I am concerned about her immediate well being - I ask if I should stay on the line with her to make sure she's safe</p>
<p>1:15:30</p>
<p>Sarah says she should lie down because "her brain stem does better when its not under pressure" and carries her laptop with her and lays down on the floor - Sarah takes a few breathes and says "Its like immediately" and voice is perfectly clear, unlike the entire interview when she was sitting up - I ask Sarah if she needs to call any one? - She says she'll just hang out on the floor for a while</p>
<p>1:16:30</p>
<p>Sarah says "Its weird to find your new normal. Who would've thought when you were a kid 'by new normal will be laying on the floor so I can think and speak clearly" - we laugh at the absurdity of it all - Sarah continues: when she did the research into the neuropathology of the animals they tested, and the autopsies they did in the '50s, all the animals had compressed brainstems from ECT - so Sarah's symptoms are very consistent with the animal studies - and consistent to what you would expect to see in a human</p>
<p>1:17:30</p>
<p>I ask Sarah if she's heard of '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craniocervical_instability'>cranio cervical instability</a> (CCI)'? Sarah says she recently heard of someone with mold exposure who has CCI - I reply "<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Brea'>Jen Brea</a>" and Sarah confirms and says she has a history of mold exposure - the building she did her research has history of flooding and a bad roof - one time when she came home from vacation, she had left her air conditioning on in her small apartment, the water drain had plugged and that caused a water bulge in the paint - it took the building manager 3 weeks to replace the wall and carpe</p>
<p>1:18:30</p>
<p>You can't isolate any of things Sarah has experienced, as humans, our body keeps the score, it is influenced by what it is exposed to, and throughout our life, it becomes a cumulative effect - I tell Sarah that I will send her <a href='https://www.mechanicalbasis.org/'>Jeff Wood's website link</a>, Jeff is 'patient zero' for CCI and it was his experience that prompted Jen Brea to look into CCI</p>
<p>1:19:30</p>
<p>Jeff was bedridden for 3 years - they both had neck surgery and are almost completely symptom-free - Sarah says the idea of surgery scares her to death - she's been exposed to so many of the gaba drugs that she's developed acute respiratory responses when given anaesthesia - even lidocaine or novocaine will trigger <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrenic_nerve'>phrenetic nerve</a> paralysis - it will look like Sarah is having convulsions, but it is the frenetic nerve malfunctioning1:20:30Sarah says "My poor body, I'm doing the best I can, I'm only 44 years old and I'm having a lot of problems"</p>
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<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
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<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
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<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
<p>Remedies Counseling - Making Life Better</p>
<p>Have you had traumatic experiences with the health care system?</p>
<p>Are you living / struggling with a chronic illness? </p>
<p>Do you need a counsellor with proven expertise and experience to make life better?</p>
<p><a href='https://remediescounseling.com/book-appointment'>Book an appointment</a> with Scott online at RemediesCounseling.com</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[I first became aware of Sarah when she shared a video clip on twitter of her waiting for an appointment sitting in her wheelchair. Her voice was strained and she was a bit difficult to understand, but as soon as Sarah was in a horizontal position her voice was clear as a bell. I immediately reached out to Sarah to learn more about her incredible health care journey. 
Doctors diagnosed Sarah with Schizoid Affective Disorder and gave her antipsychotic medications. When those didn’t work, they gave Sarah over 116 rounds of electric shock therapy  - they put electrodes on Sarah’s temples and zapped her with electricity so her brain had a seizure. Doctors also had Sarah on 5 classes of psychiatric medications amounting to 37 different combinations. In spite of this, for 12 years Sarah lived with voices in her head 24/7 telling her how and why to kill herself - all while working toward her Masters Degree.
As Sarah would eventually discover with a proper diagnosis, her psychiatric symptoms were not from schizo affective disorder, they were from hepatic encephalopathy and her brain was marinating in toxins. Once Sarah received proper treatment the voices disappeared. But that’s not the end of Sarah’s story - all those electric shock treatments have damaged Sarah’s brain affecting her speech, memory, and ability to walk. 
We had to end Sarah’s interview prematurely as you’ll hear, when she was overcome with dizziness, her speech quickly deteriorated, and she had to lie down on the floor to remove the pressure on her brainstem. Listen to how Sarah’s voice changes during this - Sarah’s final words are in the voice she had before electrical brain injury.
SHOW NOTES

First Psychosis
0:06:30
Sarah grew up in sunny San Diego, a 3rd generation San Diegan - wonderful parents, but struggles like all families - Sarah is the oldest child and only daughter - when frustrated her Dad would say 'Well Sarah, I've not had a daughter before' - she has 2 younger brothers - her parents did their best to provide a loving and supportive environment
0:08:30
Sarah's Mom is a wonderful lady, but they did butt heads - they have reconciled and Sarah considers her Mom to be one of her best friends now - after high school Sarah moved to Rexburg, Idaho where she learned about living in snow and -30 Fahrenheit
0:09:30
Sarah went to a college made famous by (the film) Napolean Dynamite, called Rex College, but now known as Brigham Young University Idaho - graduated and transferred to BYU (Brigham Young University) in Provo, Utah - after 1 semester studying English, Sarah served a mission for Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints and learned to speak Spanish and serve the people of Texas - after 18 months Sarah was invited to join the American Sign Language program and worked for 2 months with deaf people - and then returned home to BYU
0:10:30
Sarah had bad chronic and seasonal allergies causing asthma, sinus infections and bronchitis - growing up Sarah had been given a lot of antibiotics, like 4 - 8 times a year throughout childhood through her Mission - she got pneumonia when she got back and was put on another antibiotic and within a few doses had her first psychotic break
0:11:30
Sarah was on campus trying to find her way and she could see people dressed in pioneer era clothing - she was hauled off campus and put in the psych unit and put in a straight jacket for more then 36 hours
0:12:30
That was scary because she didn't know why they were putting her in a straight jacket - it was a very vulnerable place to be - that brought up childhood traumas she had with a babysitter - being in a straight jacket was very traumatic
0:13:30
Initially they told Sarah she was Bipolar with Psychosis - then was labeled with Schizoid Affective Disorder with Bipolar type, meaning she had symptoms of schizophrenia and bipolar - then the medication they gave Sarah could not be metabolized by her body and she became catatonic - they didn't realize ammonia was mar]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>David Moore part 2: How to fight cancer, dental boards and Nazi-esque eugenics programs</title>
        <itunes:title>David Moore part 2: How to fight cancer, dental boards and Nazi-esque eugenics programs</itunes:title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>In part 2 of my interview with David Moore, he tells us about being a caregiver to his friend and mentor college professor Patti as her health declines and the medical intervenes. When Patti goes in for what she thinks will be a routine 45 minute operation, David waits patiently. </p>
<p>When the surgeon comes out after 3 hours and says there were complications, David begins to worry. When Patti survives and gets to the ICU, the surgeons want to do more surgeries to fix what they broke, but David is named in Patti’s medical directive, and he follows her wishes and tries to protect her from what he calls the profiteering of Nazi-esque eugenics programs.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p></p>
<p>Aortic valve stenosis for Patti</p>
<p>0:05:15</p>
<p>David's touched on 3 medical errors: his experience with the dental industry; the food we grow and eat and its impact on our microbiome; and the over-treatment of the elderly for profit - David was also taking care of an elderly friend who recently died</p>
<p>0:06:15</p>
<p>David was caretaker for the last 15 years of a friend who was his Department Chair when David was an adjunct professor at UNLV (<a href='https://www.unlv.edu/'>University Nevada Las Vegas</a>) - about 3 years ago she was diagnosed with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aortic_stenosis'>aortic stenosis</a>, that means there is valve in the heart that has become over-calcified and is reducing blood flow - this is no big deal unless under high exertion, then it can cause a special kind of fainting spell</p>
<p>0:07:15</p>
<p>She / Patti was 78 years old, they did an echocardiogram and they recommend a surgery called a TAVR (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percutaneous_aortic_valve_replacement'>transcatheter aortic valve replacement</a>) - a medical device they stick up through the groin arteries and cut out the valve and this device is a cage that is supposed to expand and seal - if it doesn't seal, it is called a leaky valve or heart failure</p>
<p>0:08:15</p>
<p>Instead, Patti went on a marijuana regime, and in 3 years cleaned out her arteries so she didn't require a stent - she did diet changes - a new study just came out saying stents are less effective then diet changes - but during these 3 years she lost 30 pounds and in the pool more often - sure, she wasn't feeling as sprightly as when she was younger, but she was aging well</p>
<p>0:09:15</p>
<p>For those 3 years doctors told her she could drop dead at any moment - she would walk up at night with panic attacks and afraid she was going to die - David explained that it was her sleep apnea, where she stops breathing, and that was causing her panic - the doctors convinced her to get an angiogram - the echocardiogram showed her aortic valve opening at .36 cm - anything below .7 or .8 is consider critical</p>
<p>0:10:15</p>
<p>She lived a sedentary lifestyle, never left the house, David did all of her shopping, she was always on the computer teaching courses online - the angiogram, 9 months after the echocardiogram, showed she a .56 cm opening - according to modern science that is impossible - David attributes this to marijuana and her diet</p>
<p>0:11:15</p>
<p>Her surgeon doesn't have Patti's case history, he wouldn't speak to David in front of a nurse - the cardiologist said they found biomarkers for heart disease, but David pointed out how she had improved</p>
<p>0:12:15</p>
<p>The statistics show there is a 6% chance she'll die during, and a 25% chance she'll die within 12 months of surgery - Patti ends up going for the surgery, she's convinced it will be a 45 minute procedure and she'll be home the next day - TAVR surgery is highly risky, no efficacy, and unproven beyond 3 years</p>
<p>0:13:15</p>
<p>The actual surgery lasted 3 hours - the surgeon came out and told David to 'go home and get some rest and come back in a few hours and Patti will be in ICU, don't worry, the 1st one we put in didn't work, so we're trying a 2nd one' - we haven't put in a pacemaker yet</p>
<p></p>
<p>Surgery gone awry</p>
<p>0:14:15</p>
<p>Patti / David did not know this risk factor: that since Patti's aorta was only .36 cm, very calcified, it was obvious a stent would not seal because calcium has jagged edges - it is impossible</p>
<p>0:15:15</p>
<p>The 1st didn't seal, and they played around with it, and then it slipped down and that reduces her blood flow and blood pressure, essentially making her heart die - in that moment her heart is dead - they gave her a bunch of chemicals and put in a 2nd valve up through the 1st and get it to open and seal to the calcified walls - David thinks that once the 1st valve failed they should have gone to open heart surgery</p>
<p>0:16:15</p>
<p>So there is a gap between the valves, they are both leaking, her heart is being mechanically pumped, she's on a breathing tube and they are pumping her full of chemicals / medications - her body is moving as her heart is pounding - Patti's medical directive said she did not want heroic efforts, feeding tubes, etc</p>
<p>0:17:15</p>
<p>David was Patti's power of attorney for medical - they'd been friends for 25 years, and he was her caretaker the last 15 years - then the surgeons put her in ICU and asked for her consent to try to put in a balloon to try to seal - David says they lied to him that a valve was restricting the blood flow, but they actually know the valve implants are leaking</p>
<p>0:18:15</p>
<p>They tried the balloon in a 3 hour surgery, and that didn't work - then another 3 hour surgery to put in a pacemaker - Patti was conscious between the surgeries - after the 1st surgery, instead of following Patti's medical directive, the hospital called her next of kin and they gave permission to keep her alive</p>
<p>0:19:15</p>
<p>The surgeon said that he'd been keeping Patti alive for 5 hours because that's what her sister said - David told him he'd already given him Patti's medical directive, and the surgeon is freaking out - he's worked so hard to keep Patti alive with chemicals - David thinks they should have let Patti die, but the doctors follow the next of kin and do the other surgeries</p>
<p>0:20:15</p>
<p>Then they wanted to do another surgery called 'a cuff' that would force open the slip valve - they had told David the ballon was the last ditch effort, and now they're saying a cuff is the last ditch effort - they had said that if things went wrong in the 1st surgery they would do an open heart surgery - David later found out that there is only a 2% survival rate after failed TAVR surgery - they declined the open heart surgery - David also wanted to decline the cuff because it was torturing Patti</p>
<p>0:21:15</p>
<p>David had a meeting with all the doctors and nurses - he had to threaten to call in the administrators and lawyers - they decide to bring Patti out of sedation to ask if she wants to consent to a cuff surgery, and she does - they wanted David to sign the consent but he refused and left the hospital - David says anyone on death's door would consent to anything</p>
<p></p>
<p>David refuses consent for more surgeries</p>
<p>0:22:15</p>
<p>They told David that if he wouldn't sign the consent, they would take Patti off pain medications for 4 hours to get her direct consent - David didn't want her to experience that pain so agreed to sign the consent - however, they were doing exactly what Patti didn't want and had expressed in her medical directive</p>
<p>0:23:15</p>
<p>But somehow the hospital had lost her directive - so they kept Patti in ICU for 48 hours and as they're wheeling her into the operating room for surgery, her heart gave out and she died - the surgeon told David 'her heart is dead, we're not going to do the surgery', a weird mechanical response</p>
<p>0:24:15</p>
<p>This hospital is building a new cardiac wing but they ran out of money - this surgeon sits of the board of the hospital and they sent out a donation form to hospital staff with their pay cheque, basically saying that if they wanted to keep their job, make a donation - David suspects they were trying to increase Patti's insurance pay out</p>
<p>0:25:15</p>
<p>Patti had great insurance, and David feels they were running up the bill - one angiogram cost Patti's insurance $150,000 - the more procedures, the more profit - unnecessary procedures is one of the health care system's biggest expenses</p>
<p>0:26:15</p>
<p>Turning back to the dental board - David was filing complaints and a lot of other people contacted him because he did an public statement - in Nevada the 'open meeting law' - so all licensing boards are required to have public meetings and allow public members to speak, and they can speak for 3 minutes</p>
<p>0:27:15</p>
<p>David was encouraged to make the public statement, his supporters said they would record it - as soon as David starts talking about doctors, David was cut off and not allowed to speak about the corruption - drama unfolds, police arrive, and David is kicked out of the meeting - the dental board applied for an extended restraining order against David so that he can never go back and speak - they claim David threatened their lives - but David had video evidence</p>
<p>0:28:15</p>
<p>David played the video for the judge and she reprimanded the dental board - but the judge also took the dental board's side about the restraining order - David was told by the judge that if he didn't like her decision, he could leave the state of Nevada</p>
<p>0:29:15</p>
<p>The judge was rude to David and tried to get him riled up so she could justify the restraining order - David says Clark County is a small place and all the professionals look out for each other - then Governor Sisolak, a democrat, is elected, ousting the republican - Sisolak has been on a lot of boards</p>
<p>0:30:15</p>
<p>Sisolak started going after the dental board saying 'he'd never seen a more egregious audit in my life' - David sees his chance and starts making public statements at Sisolak's Board of Examiner meetings with District Attorney, Treasurer - David made 3 public statements, and Sisolak liked them</p>
<p></p>
<p>Disciplinary Hearing</p>
<p>0:31:15An investigative journalist for the <a href='https://www.reviewjournal.com/investigations/painful-mistakes-dental-boards-lax-oversight-fails-patients-1872676/'>Las Vegas Review Journal</a> writes a multiple part expose, and exposes all the nastiness with the dental board - David submits 3 new dental board complaints against 3 other dentists, totalling 6 complaints (with his other 3) - the dental board assigns one investigator for all 3 new complaints, in violation of the Governor and audits orders</p>
<p>0:32:15</p>
<p>The Governor swoops in and cancels the dental board's meeting and says they all need to come in for a disciplinary hearing for what their doing - instead, they send a republican lobbyist that represents a certain faction of the board, to tender their resignations</p>
<p>0:33:15</p>
<p>So none of the dental board shows up, they all resign - but before they resigned they fired the executive director and the attorney for the dental board - they didn't do that because they were scared of discipline, they did that because David threatened them with a lawsuit that would make them personally liable - there was a Supreme Court decision in 2015 against the dental board in North Carolina - they were trying to block the ability of consumers to access cheaper commercial dental devices</p>
<p>0:34:15</p>
<p>The North Carolina board wanted to make money - but the Supreme Court said that if the board continued to act in an antitrust manner, they would be held personally responsible</p>
<p>0:36:15</p>
<p>Making the board personally responsible was the key into opening the door to make change - the governor passed a bill to set up a patient protection commission, appointed in 2020</p>
<p>0:37:15</p>
<p>Health and Human Services deals with public health, they are not concerned with other aspects of health - David says they need to focus on human success by creating a system that gets the holistic person gets on the health care record</p>
<p>0:38:15</p>
<p>Right now it is very siloed and that increases costs and medical errors - so the solution is to make the members of the medical boards personally responsible and ensure patients are informed about all risk factors - a health record would be a bunch of 'if...then' statements</p>
<p>0:39:15</p>
<p>That patients sign off on on these 'if...then' statements - David says it is all about personal responsibility and tracking everything</p>
<p></p>
<p>Health care for profit per procedure</p>
<p>0:40:15</p>
<p>Artificial intelligence would help doctors make decisions - right now the health care system is built on a for-profit per procedure, David would make the system for-profit per success - this would force doctors to look at the whole patient</p>
<p>0:41:15</p>
<p>David hoped to be appointed as a public member on the Governor's commission - David thinks he is a bit confrontational for the doctors taste, but thinks that's what the Governor wants - conflict creates change</p>
<p>0:42:15</p>
<p>David thinks that eventually each state will have protected patient advocacy groups that are situated in every hospital and speak with every patient - there is tons of research evidence that patients should be aware</p>
<p>0:43:15</p>
<p>David says the control mechanism has to be the insurance companies, but if their colluding with the medical industry to maximize profits, we're in trouble, and that's what's happening - the number of medical devices is sky rocketing</p>
<p>0:44:15</p>
<p>David thinks the Governor needs to dictate a vision, and the Commission should fulfill that vision</p>
<p>0:45:15</p>
<p>David will speak again at the Governor's next meeting - David finds patient advocacy very rewarding - David Harold Moore on Linkedin is the best way to connect him - David's website about marijuana neutriceutal is MyLifeBak.com</p>
<p>0:47:15</p>
<p>David says that only by sharing our nightmare stories will change come - regular media is not covering our stories because the whole system has been corrupted by money - David says the solution for the dental industry is simple: minimally invasive, one tooth at a time</p>
<p>Connect with David Moore:</p>
<p></p>
<p>Website: <a href='https://www.mylifebak.com'>https://www.mylifebak.com</a></p>
<p>Linkedin: <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidharoldmoore'>https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidharoldmoore</a></p>
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<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In part 2 of my interview with David Moore, he tells us about being a caregiver to his friend and mentor college professor Patti as her health declines and the medical intervenes. When Patti goes in for what she thinks will be a routine 45 minute operation, David waits patiently. </p>
<p>When the surgeon comes out after 3 hours and says there were complications, David begins to worry. When Patti survives and gets to the ICU, the surgeons want to do more surgeries to fix what they broke, but David is named in Patti’s medical directive, and he follows her wishes and tries to protect her from what he calls the profiteering of Nazi-esque eugenics programs.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p></p>
<p>Aortic valve stenosis for Patti</p>
<p>0:05:15</p>
<p>David's touched on 3 medical errors: his experience with the dental industry; the food we grow and eat and its impact on our microbiome; and the over-treatment of the elderly for profit - David was also taking care of an elderly friend who recently died</p>
<p>0:06:15</p>
<p>David was caretaker for the last 15 years of a friend who was his Department Chair when David was an adjunct professor at UNLV (<a href='https://www.unlv.edu/'>University Nevada Las Vegas</a>) - about 3 years ago she was diagnosed with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aortic_stenosis'>aortic stenosis</a>, that means there is valve in the heart that has become over-calcified and is reducing blood flow - this is no big deal unless under high exertion, then it can cause a special kind of fainting spell</p>
<p>0:07:15</p>
<p>She / Patti was 78 years old, they did an echocardiogram and they recommend a surgery called a TAVR (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percutaneous_aortic_valve_replacement'>transcatheter aortic valve replacement</a>) - a medical device they stick up through the groin arteries and cut out the valve and this device is a cage that is supposed to expand and seal - if it doesn't seal, it is called a leaky valve or heart failure</p>
<p>0:08:15</p>
<p>Instead, Patti went on a marijuana regime, and in 3 years cleaned out her arteries so she didn't require a stent - she did diet changes - a new study just came out saying stents are less effective then diet changes - but during these 3 years she lost 30 pounds and in the pool more often - sure, she wasn't feeling as sprightly as when she was younger, but she was aging well</p>
<p>0:09:15</p>
<p>For those 3 years doctors told her she could drop dead at any moment - she would walk up at night with panic attacks and afraid she was going to die - David explained that it was her sleep apnea, where she stops breathing, and that was causing her panic - the doctors convinced her to get an angiogram - the echocardiogram showed her aortic valve opening at .36 cm - anything below .7 or .8 is consider critical</p>
<p>0:10:15</p>
<p>She lived a sedentary lifestyle, never left the house, David did all of her shopping, she was always on the computer teaching courses online - the angiogram, 9 months after the echocardiogram, showed she a .56 cm opening - according to modern science that is impossible - David attributes this to marijuana and her diet</p>
<p>0:11:15</p>
<p>Her surgeon doesn't have Patti's case history, he wouldn't speak to David in front of a nurse - the cardiologist said they found biomarkers for heart disease, but David pointed out how she had improved</p>
<p>0:12:15</p>
<p>The statistics show there is a 6% chance she'll die during, and a 25% chance she'll die within 12 months of surgery - Patti ends up going for the surgery, she's convinced it will be a 45 minute procedure and she'll be home the next day - TAVR surgery is highly risky, no efficacy, and unproven beyond 3 years</p>
<p>0:13:15</p>
<p>The actual surgery lasted 3 hours - the surgeon came out and told David to 'go home and get some rest and come back in a few hours and Patti will be in ICU, don't worry, the 1st one we put in didn't work, so we're trying a 2nd one' - we haven't put in a pacemaker yet</p>
<p></p>
<p>Surgery gone awry</p>
<p>0:14:15</p>
<p>Patti / David did not know this risk factor: that since Patti's aorta was only .36 cm, very calcified, it was obvious a stent would not seal because calcium has jagged edges - it is impossible</p>
<p>0:15:15</p>
<p>The 1st didn't seal, and they played around with it, and then it slipped down and that reduces her blood flow and blood pressure, essentially making her heart die - in that moment her heart is dead - they gave her a bunch of chemicals and put in a 2nd valve up through the 1st and get it to open and seal to the calcified walls - David thinks that once the 1st valve failed they should have gone to open heart surgery</p>
<p>0:16:15</p>
<p>So there is a gap between the valves, they are both leaking, her heart is being mechanically pumped, she's on a breathing tube and they are pumping her full of chemicals / medications - her body is moving as her heart is pounding - Patti's medical directive said she did not want heroic efforts, feeding tubes, etc</p>
<p>0:17:15</p>
<p>David was Patti's power of attorney for medical - they'd been friends for 25 years, and he was her caretaker the last 15 years - then the surgeons put her in ICU and asked for her consent to try to put in a balloon to try to seal - David says they lied to him that a valve was restricting the blood flow, but they actually know the valve implants are leaking</p>
<p>0:18:15</p>
<p>They tried the balloon in a 3 hour surgery, and that didn't work - then another 3 hour surgery to put in a pacemaker - Patti was conscious between the surgeries - after the 1st surgery, instead of following Patti's medical directive, the hospital called her next of kin and they gave permission to keep her alive</p>
<p>0:19:15</p>
<p>The surgeon said that he'd been keeping Patti alive for 5 hours because that's what her sister said - David told him he'd already given him Patti's medical directive, and the surgeon is freaking out - he's worked so hard to keep Patti alive with chemicals - David thinks they should have let Patti die, but the doctors follow the next of kin and do the other surgeries</p>
<p>0:20:15</p>
<p>Then they wanted to do another surgery called 'a cuff' that would force open the slip valve - they had told David the ballon was the last ditch effort, and now they're saying a cuff is the last ditch effort - they had said that if things went wrong in the 1st surgery they would do an open heart surgery - David later found out that there is only a 2% survival rate after failed TAVR surgery - they declined the open heart surgery - David also wanted to decline the cuff because it was torturing Patti</p>
<p>0:21:15</p>
<p>David had a meeting with all the doctors and nurses - he had to threaten to call in the administrators and lawyers - they decide to bring Patti out of sedation to ask if she wants to consent to a cuff surgery, and she does - they wanted David to sign the consent but he refused and left the hospital - David says anyone on death's door would consent to anything</p>
<p></p>
<p>David refuses consent for more surgeries</p>
<p>0:22:15</p>
<p>They told David that if he wouldn't sign the consent, they would take Patti off pain medications for 4 hours to get her direct consent - David didn't want her to experience that pain so agreed to sign the consent - however, they were doing exactly what Patti didn't want and had expressed in her medical directive</p>
<p>0:23:15</p>
<p>But somehow the hospital had lost her directive - so they kept Patti in ICU for 48 hours and as they're wheeling her into the operating room for surgery, her heart gave out and she died - the surgeon told David 'her heart is dead, we're not going to do the surgery', a weird mechanical response</p>
<p>0:24:15</p>
<p>This hospital is building a new cardiac wing but they ran out of money - this surgeon sits of the board of the hospital and they sent out a donation form to hospital staff with their pay cheque, basically saying that if they wanted to keep their job, make a donation - David suspects they were trying to increase Patti's insurance pay out</p>
<p>0:25:15</p>
<p>Patti had great insurance, and David feels they were running up the bill - one angiogram cost Patti's insurance $150,000 - the more procedures, the more profit - unnecessary procedures is one of the health care system's biggest expenses</p>
<p>0:26:15</p>
<p>Turning back to the dental board - David was filing complaints and a lot of other people contacted him because he did an public statement - in Nevada the 'open meeting law' - so all licensing boards are required to have public meetings and allow public members to speak, and they can speak for 3 minutes</p>
<p>0:27:15</p>
<p>David was encouraged to make the public statement, his supporters said they would record it - as soon as David starts talking about doctors, David was cut off and not allowed to speak about the corruption - drama unfolds, police arrive, and David is kicked out of the meeting - the dental board applied for an extended restraining order against David so that he can never go back and speak - they claim David threatened their lives - but David had video evidence</p>
<p>0:28:15</p>
<p>David played the video for the judge and she reprimanded the dental board - but the judge also took the dental board's side about the restraining order - David was told by the judge that if he didn't like her decision, he could leave the state of Nevada</p>
<p>0:29:15</p>
<p>The judge was rude to David and tried to get him riled up so she could justify the restraining order - David says Clark County is a small place and all the professionals look out for each other - then Governor Sisolak, a democrat, is elected, ousting the republican - Sisolak has been on a lot of boards</p>
<p>0:30:15</p>
<p>Sisolak started going after the dental board saying 'he'd never seen a more egregious audit in my life' - David sees his chance and starts making public statements at Sisolak's Board of Examiner meetings with District Attorney, Treasurer - David made 3 public statements, and Sisolak liked them</p>
<p></p>
<p>Disciplinary Hearing</p>
<p>0:31:15An investigative journalist for the <a href='https://www.reviewjournal.com/investigations/painful-mistakes-dental-boards-lax-oversight-fails-patients-1872676/'>Las Vegas Review Journal</a> writes a multiple part expose, and exposes all the nastiness with the dental board - David submits 3 new dental board complaints against 3 other dentists, totalling 6 complaints (with his other 3) - the dental board assigns one investigator for all 3 new complaints, in violation of the Governor and audits orders</p>
<p>0:32:15</p>
<p>The Governor swoops in and cancels the dental board's meeting and says they all need to come in for a disciplinary hearing for what their doing - instead, they send a republican lobbyist that represents a certain faction of the board, to tender their resignations</p>
<p>0:33:15</p>
<p>So none of the dental board shows up, they all resign - but before they resigned they fired the executive director and the attorney for the dental board - they didn't do that because they were scared of discipline, they did that because David threatened them with a lawsuit that would make them personally liable - there was a Supreme Court decision in 2015 against the dental board in North Carolina - they were trying to block the ability of consumers to access cheaper commercial dental devices</p>
<p>0:34:15</p>
<p>The North Carolina board wanted to make money - but the Supreme Court said that if the board continued to act in an antitrust manner, they would be held personally responsible</p>
<p>0:36:15</p>
<p>Making the board personally responsible was the key into opening the door to make change - the governor passed a bill to set up a patient protection commission, appointed in 2020</p>
<p>0:37:15</p>
<p>Health and Human Services deals with public health, they are not concerned with other aspects of health - David says they need to focus on human success by creating a system that gets the holistic person gets on the health care record</p>
<p>0:38:15</p>
<p>Right now it is very siloed and that increases costs and medical errors - so the solution is to make the members of the medical boards personally responsible and ensure patients are informed about all risk factors - a health record would be a bunch of 'if...then' statements</p>
<p>0:39:15</p>
<p>That patients sign off on on these 'if...then' statements - David says it is all about personal responsibility and tracking everything</p>
<p></p>
<p>Health care for profit per procedure</p>
<p>0:40:15</p>
<p>Artificial intelligence would help doctors make decisions - right now the health care system is built on a for-profit per procedure, David would make the system for-profit per success - this would force doctors to look at the whole patient</p>
<p>0:41:15</p>
<p>David hoped to be appointed as a public member on the Governor's commission - David thinks he is a bit confrontational for the doctors taste, but thinks that's what the Governor wants - conflict creates change</p>
<p>0:42:15</p>
<p>David thinks that eventually each state will have protected patient advocacy groups that are situated in every hospital and speak with every patient - there is tons of research evidence that patients should be aware</p>
<p>0:43:15</p>
<p>David says the control mechanism has to be the insurance companies, but if their colluding with the medical industry to maximize profits, we're in trouble, and that's what's happening - the number of medical devices is sky rocketing</p>
<p>0:44:15</p>
<p>David thinks the Governor needs to dictate a vision, and the Commission should fulfill that vision</p>
<p>0:45:15</p>
<p>David will speak again at the Governor's next meeting - David finds patient advocacy very rewarding - David Harold Moore on Linkedin is the best way to connect him - David's website about marijuana neutriceutal is MyLifeBak.com</p>
<p>0:47:15</p>
<p>David says that only by sharing our nightmare stories will change come - regular media is not covering our stories because the whole system has been corrupted by money - David says the solution for the dental industry is simple: minimally invasive, one tooth at a time</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In part 2 of my interview with David Moore, he tells us about being a caregiver to his friend and mentor college professor Patti as her health declines and the medical intervenes. When Patti goes in for what she thinks will be a routine 45 minute operation, David waits patiently. 
When the surgeon comes out after 3 hours and says there were complications, David begins to worry. When Patti survives and gets to the ICU, the surgeons want to do more surgeries to fix what they broke, but David is named in Patti’s medical directive, and he follows her wishes and tries to protect her from what he calls the profiteering of Nazi-esque eugenics programs.
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Aortic valve stenosis for Patti
0:05:15
David's touched on 3 medical errors: his experience with the dental industry; the food we grow and eat and its impact on our microbiome; and the over-treatment of the elderly for profit - David was also taking care of an elderly friend who recently died
0:06:15
David was caretaker for the last 15 years of a friend who was his Department Chair when David was an adjunct professor at UNLV (University Nevada Las Vegas) - about 3 years ago she was diagnosed with aortic stenosis, that means there is valve in the heart that has become over-calcified and is reducing blood flow - this is no big deal unless under high exertion, then it can cause a special kind of fainting spell
0:07:15
She / Patti was 78 years old, they did an echocardiogram and they recommend a surgery called a TAVR (transcatheter aortic valve replacement) - a medical device they stick up through the groin arteries and cut out the valve and this device is a cage that is supposed to expand and seal - if it doesn't seal, it is called a leaky valve or heart failure
0:08:15
Instead, Patti went on a marijuana regime, and in 3 years cleaned out her arteries so she didn't require a stent - she did diet changes - a new study just came out saying stents are less effective then diet changes - but during these 3 years she lost 30 pounds and in the pool more often - sure, she wasn't feeling as sprightly as when she was younger, but she was aging well
0:09:15
For those 3 years doctors told her she could drop dead at any moment - she would walk up at night with panic attacks and afraid she was going to die - David explained that it was her sleep apnea, where she stops breathing, and that was causing her panic - the doctors convinced her to get an angiogram - the echocardiogram showed her aortic valve opening at .36 cm - anything below .7 or .8 is consider critical
0:10:15
She lived a sedentary lifestyle, never left the house, David did all of her shopping, she was always on the computer teaching courses online - the angiogram, 9 months after the echocardiogram, showed she a .56 cm opening - according to modern science that is impossible - David attributes this to marijuana and her diet
0:11:15
Her surgeon doesn't have Patti's case history, he wouldn't speak to David in front of a nurse - the cardiologist said they found biomarkers for heart disease, but David pointed out how she had improved
0:12:15
The statistics show there is a 6% chance she'll die during, and a 25% chance she'll die within 12 months of surgery - Patti ends up going for the surgery, she's convinced it will be a 45 minute procedure and she'll be home the next day - TAVR surgery is highly risky, no efficacy, and unproven beyond 3 years
0:13:15
The actual surgery lasted 3 hours - the surgeon came out and told David to 'go home and get some rest and come back in a few hours and Patti will be in ICU, don't worry, the 1st one we put in didn't work, so we're trying a 2nd one' - we haven't put in a pacemaker yet

Surgery gone awry
0:14:15
Patti / David did not know this risk factor: that since Patti's aorta was only .36 cm, very calcified, it was obvious a stent would not seal because calcium has jagged edges - it is impossible
0:15:15
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        <title>David Moore pt 1: How to fight cancer, dental boards and Nazi-esque eugenics programs</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>David Moore does health differently.</p>
<p>When David was diagnosed with stage 4 stomach cancer and given 3 months to live, he didn’t follow the usual medical path of radiation, chemotherapy and surgery.</p>
<p>When David’s mentor named him in her medical directive, he pushed back hard against the surgeons who wanted to give her more high cost, high risk surgeries to run up their profit.</p>
<p>When David’s dentist performed procedures without David’s consent, he went public - and to the state governor - to expose dental board corruption.</p>
<p>In part one of this 2 part interview, David Moore shares how an undiagnosed illness lead to stomach cancer, and how he cured that cancer without toxic medications.</p>
<p>
SHOW NOTES:</p>
<p></p>
<p>Childhood trauma</p>
<p>0:05:15</p>
<p>David was born in 1970 and grew up in Cocoa Beach, Florida - David thinks the 70s were a great decade - but his home life was more like bombing in Vietnam - David suffered serious child abuse, emotional trauma, emotional neglect, molested by a babysitter, and on and on</p>
<p>0:06:15</p>
<p>David has 3 older brothers, and they were all drug addicts and highly abusive - David's mother was raped by her father for 10 years - she suffered from narcissistic personality disorder and took it out on her kids - it was an emotional Vietnam - but, from the outside, no one knew what was going on and narcissists are very clever - David's father was aloof and an engineer with NASA and was never home - David loved and adored him</p>
<p>0:07:15</p>
<p>That left David struggling in adulthood - and that can be attributed to traumatic brain wiring, making people more susceptible to addiction - they never experienced unconditional love - childhood trauma is a scourge upon the world, they pass it onto their children - David thinks about 40% of Americans have childhood trauma - but David did have an idyllic childhood, he made sure he was rarely home</p>
<p>0:08:15</p>
<p>David's focus became to empathize with everyone in an effort to understand what was going on - by the time he was 15 he decided to dedicate his life to helping other - he realized all his friends parents were messed up and that messed up the kids - alcoholics, drug addicts - but they were all rich white people, nobody was poor</p>
<p>0:09:15</p>
<p>David couldn't understand until he was in his 40s and realized that his parents suffered childhood trauma too - his mother's abuse was extreme neglect, he was a 'mistake' and she didn't want to have him</p>
<p>0:10:15</p>
<p>David thinks the neural connections didn't connect because he wasn't nurtured, as a result David has a form of autism - but it enabled him to detach from his mother's abuse - and that helped him survive that - he then focused on his friends and getting them away from adults</p>
<p>0:11:15</p>
<p>David's father was David's stability - he adored David, but he didn't speak much</p>
<p>0:12:15</p>
<p>David suspects his father was on the spectrum - he was a loner, didn't socialize - David didn't know until after his father died, that he was in the Office of Strategic Services in World War II, and he was in the CIA his whole time - he was aloof, didn't share a lot - his cover was an electrical engineer working for different government contractors0:13:15The childhood neglect caused him to scream a lot - he would wake up screaming - all the screaming created a high arch narrow palate, and that created a cranio malformation - so David's bite is totally unique</p>
<p></p>
<p>Stage 4 stomach cancer</p>
<p>0:14:15David's bite cannot be adjusted because of the malformation - the cranio malformation is called left side bending rotation made it so his left and right mandibular joints were out of place, but not causing pain, but dysfunctional in the sense they weren't normal</p>
<p>0:15:15</p>
<p>As a child David was a sugar addict, and in visiting dentists, he noticed that it was insanely painful - he had a lot of mercury fillings on his upper arch - but they would fall out, he would swallow them - Florida is a weird state</p>
<p>0:16:15</p>
<p>Dentists were drunk and haphazardly prescribing opiates like candy - at 16 he was given percocets - he developed a hatred for dentistry due to all the trauma with them as a child - when he moved to Las Vegas, the veneers on his teeth had cracked and they had to put on a crown - his 2 front veneers are from diving into a shallow pool and breaking his teeth</p>
<p>0:17:15</p>
<p>In Vegas they put on a crown, David is in immense pain, they give him more pain meds, they give him a root canal - the root is so infected and stinks so bad people in the room faint - David realizes the dentist let him suffer for months when he knew David needed a root canal - then David gets Celiac disease, an autoimmune disease and manifested as acid reflux</p>
<p>0:18:15</p>
<p>The Celiac disease caused David to vomit small amounts during the night and his stomach acid ate away his enamel - because celiac was undiagnosed for 5 years he developed stomach cancer - that's when David started to figure things out, the beginning of his journey - the cancer had covered up his stomach villi and he couldn't absorb food and started to starve - by the time he's diagnosed he's in stage 4 cancer and only given 3 months to live</p>
<p>0:19:15</p>
<p>David continues to eat and gets bigger and develops a bowel blockage - they wanted to do chemotherapy but David didn't have insurance - this was in 2014 before Obama Care - David decided to go raw vegan and ingest marijuana - he had read that it can kill cancer, especially if it is localized - it took him 5 years to get cancer-free</p>
<p>0:20:15T</p>
<p>o make marijuana bioavailable from eating, it has to be de-carboxylated - breaking off a carbon atom so the cannabinoid can be utilized - so it just has to be heated up for the right amount of time, then ingest and it has huge effects</p>
<p>0:21:15</p>
<p>It is also a psychotropic, as a result neural pathways are decalcified and promotes neurogenesis - most people release their power to a doctor, and David never did that - for the last 7 years of his dental nightmare</p>
<p>0:22:15</p>
<p>Doctors are treated as gods - it is like the wild west - where is all the wisdom? - now doctors are all entrepreneurs and want to make money and pay off their student loans and feel superior to everyone</p>
<p>else - what happened to old school dentistry?</p>
<p></p>
<p>Dental PTSD</p>
<p>0:23:15</p>
<p>Re marijuana for cancer, David says all the doctors he's talked to, dismiss it with disdain - they deny and delude themselves - if they ever faced the fact that they do more harm than good, they'll have to take responsibility for their actions</p>
<p>0:24:15</p>
<p>David is dealing with the cancer and dental issues at the same time - he'd been to over 30 dentists in 5 years, 99% in the Las Vegas valley - cranio malformation creates crowding of his lower front teeth and that caused pain</p>
<p>0:25:15</p>
<p>The pressure was pushing his teeth outward - even breathing was causing extreme pain - Obama Care had started and that allowed David to access a dentist</p>
<p>0:26:15</p>
<p>David sees a dentist who says he can fix David's upper 6 teeth - David goes for the procedure and is given pain killers and novocaine and as he's upside down in the chair, the dentist starts a hard sell for a full mouth reconstruction - David is scared, dealing with PTSD but says 'no' - the dentist convinces David to do the upper 10 teeth</p>
<p>0:27:15</p>
<p>"HMO" is a type of health insurance but if forces you to go to a HMO doctor - it allows HMO dentists to 'drill for dollars' and make a lot of money - they've been doing it for decades</p>
<p>0:28:15</p>
<p>They try to do as many procedures in as little time as possible to make as much as possible - David experiences extreme pain - just before the dentist finishes, he decides to shave down David's bottom teeth without David's permission - he shaved off 3 - 4 millimetres - as a result, the dentist had changed the guidance of David's mouth, impacting all the muscles in his head</p>
<p>0:29:15</p>
<p>That caused lower back failure and a bulging disc - David had been seeing an Osteopath doctor - to David, osteopathy is the only effective medicine in the world</p>
<p>0:30:15</p>
<p>When osteopathy is combined with an ovo-vegan diet, and marijuana, 80% of disease can be reversed - doctors of osteopathy is about energy</p>
<p>0:31:15</p>
<p>Osteopathy doctors are also MDs, but do 4 more years of education - can prescribe like a regular MD, but also have comprehensive understanding of how the body systems work together - they manipulate energy so the body self heals and reaches homeostasis</p>
<p>0:32:15</p>
<p>The osteopath helped bring David back into balance and out of pain of a herniated disc within 3 weeks without pain medication or surgery - back to the dentists: 2nd dentist tries 3 temporary over 11 months, and pushes David to pay $50k for a full mouth reconstruction0:33:15David saw a number of other dentists, who did not want to treat him or be involved - he finds out that there is a continuing education dental school in Nevada and they teach full mouth reconstruction as a way to help headaches, TMJ pain, etc</p>
<p></p>
<p>Filing complain with the dental board</p>
<p>0:34:15</p>
<p>TMJ = mandibular joint pain - the school tells dentists that will increase your revenues by more then 50% guaranteed</p>
<p>0:35:25</p>
<p>They call this 'occlusal science' - but there are other occlusal schools out there and they are awesome - the Dawson Academy is a good school - 'occlusion' just means 'bite' - and if your bite is off, you can get headaches and other problems - to fix that is not about full mouth reconstruction, it is about fixing the bite, and that's what prosthodontists do</p>
<p>0:36:15</p>
<p>Prosthodontists go to an extra 3 years of school - but now there is a for-profit education system that teaches regular dentists about occlusion, and the Dawson Academy is a good one - their approach is 'minimally invasive, one tooth at a time' - David says that if a dentist wants to do more then 1 tooth at a time, they may screw up your bite, and they they'll recommend a full mouth reconstruction for $50k+</p>
<p>0:37:15</p>
<p>Industry experts say the one occlusion school in Las Vegas is the problem, they practice 'voodoo' science - so everyone knows what's going on, but no one is doing anything about it - its about the money - going from $500k a year income to $1 million, that's a huge bump</p>
<p>0:38:15</p>
<p>There is no standard of care, its crazy - so David figures all this out and speaks out, as a result they attack, avoid and not help David - so he's going to multiple dentists, some of them speak to him off the record</p>
<p>0:39:15</p>
<p>As a result, David has been working with the governor to revamp the entire board licensing system in Nevada - David files a dental board complaint - in every US state there is a dental board that is supposed to be overseeing the dentists and protecting patients, but that's not what happens</p>
<p>0:40:15</p>
<p>For the last 30 years, all the dental boards in America all have licensed practitioners on the board - so that means dentists are overseeing dentists - but they are all in on the game of 'drilling for dollars' - so standards of care can't be developed, they are convoluted - the problem is the for-profit motive, where doctors and dentists have to make money but at the same time are supposed to be helping people</p>
<p>0:41:15</p>
<p>But they cause irreversible harm, and irreversible harm allows them to make money of that patient for the rest of their life - and that's the problem with dentistry - David's dental board complaint is denied, they side with the dentists in spite of egregious conduct</p>
<p>0:42:15</p>
<p>The Nevada dental board assigns one investigator, and that person decides everything - there is no review of the decision, no oversight of the investigator - so a lot of power - that investigator is assigned by the director of the dental board, and that investigator depends on the investigate fees</p>
<p></p>
<p>Exploiting elderly patients for profit</p>
<p>0:43:15</p>
<p>Now Governor Sisolak has come in and is changing the game - he's passed a bill, created a commission with check and balances - their plan is to reduce health care costs and protect patients, so they are a patient protection commission - 90% of all health care dollars are spent in the last 3 years of life</p>
<p>0:44:15</p>
<p>That means old people are being experimented on and exploited so hospitals, doctors, administrators can make money - the medical device industry, the pharmacological industry and hospitals / doctors have joined forces to bankrupt the country and profiteer off of that</p>
<p>0:45:15</p>
<p>Family members of elderly people are shamed into doing anything to keep their relative alive, not realizing the probability of getting better from next procedure is so small they are essentially torturing them with fear - and patients will consent to any thing to stay alive</p>
<p>0:46:15</p>
<p>Add that to medical error being 3rd leading cause of death - that's about 300k in the US per year, plus another couple hundred thousand that didn't get recorded - half of those errors are pharmacological - because doctors are so siloed none of them are looking at the whole patient</p>
<p>0:47:15</p>
<p>They should focus on the whole person - we're risking old people's lives so the hospital and medical industry can make money - the other half of medical error deaths are from infections</p>
<p>0:48:15</p>
<p>The animals we eat are all fed antibiotics, so we are continuously exposed to a low level of antibiotics and that empowers the bad bacteria in our microbiome - David says this causes 80% of all disease</p>
<p>0:49:15</p>
<p>David says all disease starts in the gut - David says that red and processed meat are the 2 biggest factors to diabetes</p>
<p>0:50:15</p>
<p>The microbiome is through our entire body - mouth, lungs, stomach, organs - that means all kinds of bacterial DNA in our body, in fact, there is more bacterial DNA then human DNA in our bodies - that means we have to work with the bacteria - 'bad' bacteria is only 'bad' when it dominates the microbiome - and it gets bad when its fed meat, bread, dairy and sugar</p>
<p>0:51:15</p>
<p>That diet makes the more 'bad' bacteria who feed off their own bile - they excrete a toxic chemical that causes inflammation, that triggers the genome, that triggers disposition to disease - that's basic epigenomology</p>
<p>0:52:15</p>
<p>If your grandparents are poorly, you become more susceptible to diseases - it skips a generation - poor diet leads to inflammation making a person even more susceptible</p>
<p>0:53:15</p>
<p>We are in a symbiotic relationship with bacteria, and if we do not feed the 'good' bacteria with fruits, nuts, vegetables and legumes then we will never be in balance with good and bad</p>
<p>bacteria to reach homeostasis which promotes natural healing - when we're not in homeostasis our body in under attack - probiotics are good bacteria</p>
<p></p>
<p>Cannabinoid power</p>
<p>0:54:15</p>
<p>Why don't probiotics work? Because we're not feeding them - the most effective prebiotic foods are raw garlic, cooked onions, and asparagus - these are 3 most effective foods, they contain lots of inulin - green bananas have non-soluble starch, a prebiotic - the most effective prebiotic is bioavailable marijuana</p>
<p>0:55:15</p>
<p>The cannabinoids empower the good bacteria so they produce more bacteria and bring homeostasis twice as fast as any other way - the plant material is considered a prebiotic because its hard to digest, like garlic and onions, and that's what the good bacteria like - warning: at beginning of prebiotic diet you may suffer from extreme gastritis</p>
<p>0:56:15</p>
<p>Probiotics are good bacteria, prebiotics feed good bacteria - so eating a lot of prebiotic food, may have to burp during the night, but only lasts a few months</p>
<p>0:57:15</p>
<p>David's saying that there is a medical error in that medicine is not paying enough attention to the microbiome and diet in relation to disease - surgeons, to this day, think organs in the body are sterile, but there is tons of bacteria on the organs - but in surgery, they are introducing bad bacteria and that's when everything goes to hell - we're 50 years away from this information being disseminated in the educational system, a deeply flawed system</p>
<p>0:58:15</p>
<p>A system so flawed that the FDA was founded by a bunch of petrochemical engineers - and pharmacological research being funded by for-profit companies that feed into the medical education system, and the professors are selling out for money to please the 'overlords', so the whole system is being corrupted from its foundation and it has been since its founding - they believe in ingesting petrochemicals is a medicine - we're devastating the microbiome in our guts and making us more susceptible to disease</p>
<p>0:59:15</p>
<p>Just look back in time, there had been a rise in disease - everything changed in the 90s with the introduction of GMO - and herbicides and pesticides became even more used and they've known since the 60s that they were detrimental - when they introduced GMOs, they began dousing our wheat with...</p>
<p>1:00:15</p>
<p>...a chemical herbicide from Monsanto - GMO, genetically modified organisms, they'll splice in DNA from bacteria into a plant to make it resistant to the herbicide so they can douse a whole field with herbicide and not kill the (corn, wheat, barley) plant - as a result, all our crops are sprayed with a glyphosate 2 weeks before harvest to create a greater yield of the plant</p>
<p>1:01:15</p>
<p>Then we eat all this bread with the herbicide and it kills all the bacteria in our gut - a cascading effect - David calls this a 'Nazi-esque eugenics program' designed to kill off all the old people while profiteering off their suffering - the most prolific form of evil today is modern medicine - these young surgeons thinking they are god incarnate and when someone dies on their table, they go into total denial as to their responsibility</p>
<p>1:03:15</p>
<p>David's touched on 3 medical errors: his experience with the dental industry; the food we grow and eat and its impact on our microbiome; and the over-treatment of the elderly for profit - David was also taking care of an elderly friend who recently died. David was caretaker for the last 15 years of a friend who was his Department Chair when David was an adjunct professor at UNLV - about 3 years ago she was diagnosed with aortic stenosis...</p>
<p>Part 2 of interview with David Moore coming next week.</p>
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<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Moore does health differently.</p>
<p>When David was diagnosed with stage 4 stomach cancer and given 3 months to live, he didn’t follow the usual medical path of radiation, chemotherapy and surgery.</p>
<p>When David’s mentor named him in her medical directive, he pushed back hard against the surgeons who wanted to give her more high cost, high risk surgeries to run up their profit.</p>
<p>When David’s dentist performed procedures without David’s consent, he went public - and to the state governor - to expose dental board corruption.</p>
<p>In part one of this 2 part interview, David Moore shares how an undiagnosed illness lead to stomach cancer, and how he cured that cancer without toxic medications.</p>
<p><br>
SHOW NOTES:</p>
<p></p>
<p>Childhood trauma</p>
<p>0:05:15</p>
<p>David was born in 1970 and grew up in Cocoa Beach, Florida - David thinks the 70s were a great decade - but his home life was more like bombing in Vietnam - David suffered serious child abuse, emotional trauma, emotional neglect, molested by a babysitter, and on and on</p>
<p>0:06:15</p>
<p>David has 3 older brothers, and they were all drug addicts and highly abusive - David's mother was raped by her father for 10 years - she suffered from narcissistic personality disorder and took it out on her kids - it was an emotional Vietnam - but, from the outside, no one knew what was going on and narcissists are very clever - David's father was aloof and an engineer with NASA and was never home - David loved and adored him</p>
<p>0:07:15</p>
<p>That left David struggling in adulthood - and that can be attributed to traumatic brain wiring, making people more susceptible to addiction - they never experienced unconditional love - childhood trauma is a scourge upon the world, they pass it onto their children - David thinks about 40% of Americans have childhood trauma - but David did have an idyllic childhood, he made sure he was rarely home</p>
<p>0:08:15</p>
<p>David's focus became to empathize with everyone in an effort to understand what was going on - by the time he was 15 he decided to dedicate his life to helping other - he realized all his friends parents were messed up and that messed up the kids - alcoholics, drug addicts - but they were all rich white people, nobody was poor</p>
<p>0:09:15</p>
<p>David couldn't understand until he was in his 40s and realized that his parents suffered childhood trauma too - his mother's abuse was extreme neglect, he was a 'mistake' and she didn't want to have him</p>
<p>0:10:15</p>
<p>David thinks the neural connections didn't connect because he wasn't nurtured, as a result David has a form of autism - but it enabled him to detach from his mother's abuse - and that helped him survive that - he then focused on his friends and getting them away from adults</p>
<p>0:11:15</p>
<p>David's father was David's stability - he adored David, but he didn't speak much</p>
<p>0:12:15</p>
<p>David suspects his father was on the spectrum - he was a loner, didn't socialize - David didn't know until after his father died, that he was in the Office of Strategic Services in World War II, and he was in the CIA his whole time - he was aloof, didn't share a lot - his cover was an electrical engineer working for different government contractors0:13:15The childhood neglect caused him to scream a lot - he would wake up screaming - all the screaming created a high arch narrow palate, and that created a cranio malformation - so David's bite is totally unique</p>
<p></p>
<p>Stage 4 stomach cancer</p>
<p>0:14:15David's bite cannot be adjusted because of the malformation - the cranio malformation is called left side bending rotation made it so his left and right mandibular joints were out of place, but not causing pain, but dysfunctional in the sense they weren't normal</p>
<p>0:15:15</p>
<p>As a child David was a sugar addict, and in visiting dentists, he noticed that it was insanely painful - he had a lot of mercury fillings on his upper arch - but they would fall out, he would swallow them - Florida is a weird state</p>
<p>0:16:15</p>
<p>Dentists were drunk and haphazardly prescribing opiates like candy - at 16 he was given percocets - he developed a hatred for dentistry due to all the trauma with them as a child - when he moved to Las Vegas, the veneers on his teeth had cracked and they had to put on a crown - his 2 front veneers are from diving into a shallow pool and breaking his teeth</p>
<p>0:17:15</p>
<p>In Vegas they put on a crown, David is in immense pain, they give him more pain meds, they give him a root canal - the root is so infected and stinks so bad people in the room faint - David realizes the dentist let him suffer for months when he knew David needed a root canal - then David gets Celiac disease, an autoimmune disease and manifested as acid reflux</p>
<p>0:18:15</p>
<p>The Celiac disease caused David to vomit small amounts during the night and his stomach acid ate away his enamel - because celiac was undiagnosed for 5 years he developed stomach cancer - that's when David started to figure things out, the beginning of his journey - the cancer had covered up his stomach villi and he couldn't absorb food and started to starve - by the time he's diagnosed he's in stage 4 cancer and only given 3 months to live</p>
<p>0:19:15</p>
<p>David continues to eat and gets bigger and develops a bowel blockage - they wanted to do chemotherapy but David didn't have insurance - this was in 2014 before Obama Care - David decided to go raw vegan and ingest marijuana - he had read that it can kill cancer, especially if it is localized - it took him 5 years to get cancer-free</p>
<p>0:20:15T</p>
<p>o make marijuana bioavailable from eating, it has to be de-carboxylated - breaking off a carbon atom so the cannabinoid can be utilized - so it just has to be heated up for the right amount of time, then ingest and it has huge effects</p>
<p>0:21:15</p>
<p>It is also a psychotropic, as a result neural pathways are decalcified and promotes neurogenesis - most people release their power to a doctor, and David never did that - for the last 7 years of his dental nightmare</p>
<p>0:22:15</p>
<p>Doctors are treated as gods - it is like the wild west - where is all the wisdom? - now doctors are all entrepreneurs and want to make money and pay off their student loans and feel superior to everyone</p>
<p>else - what happened to old school dentistry?</p>
<p></p>
<p>Dental PTSD</p>
<p>0:23:15</p>
<p>Re marijuana for cancer, David says all the doctors he's talked to, dismiss it with disdain - they deny and delude themselves - if they ever faced the fact that they do more harm than good, they'll have to take responsibility for their actions</p>
<p>0:24:15</p>
<p>David is dealing with the cancer and dental issues at the same time - he'd been to over 30 dentists in 5 years, 99% in the Las Vegas valley - cranio malformation creates crowding of his lower front teeth and that caused pain</p>
<p>0:25:15</p>
<p>The pressure was pushing his teeth outward - even breathing was causing extreme pain - Obama Care had started and that allowed David to access a dentist</p>
<p>0:26:15</p>
<p>David sees a dentist who says he can fix David's upper 6 teeth - David goes for the procedure and is given pain killers and novocaine and as he's upside down in the chair, the dentist starts a hard sell for a full mouth reconstruction - David is scared, dealing with PTSD but says 'no' - the dentist convinces David to do the upper 10 teeth</p>
<p>0:27:15</p>
<p>"HMO" is a type of health insurance but if forces you to go to a HMO doctor - it allows HMO dentists to 'drill for dollars' and make a lot of money - they've been doing it for decades</p>
<p>0:28:15</p>
<p>They try to do as many procedures in as little time as possible to make as much as possible - David experiences extreme pain - just before the dentist finishes, he decides to shave down David's bottom teeth without David's permission - he shaved off 3 - 4 millimetres - as a result, the dentist had changed the guidance of David's mouth, impacting all the muscles in his head</p>
<p>0:29:15</p>
<p>That caused lower back failure and a bulging disc - David had been seeing an Osteopath doctor - to David, osteopathy is the only effective medicine in the world</p>
<p>0:30:15</p>
<p>When osteopathy is combined with an ovo-vegan diet, and marijuana, 80% of disease can be reversed - doctors of osteopathy is about energy</p>
<p>0:31:15</p>
<p>Osteopathy doctors are also MDs, but do 4 more years of education - can prescribe like a regular MD, but also have comprehensive understanding of how the body systems work together - they manipulate energy so the body self heals and reaches homeostasis</p>
<p>0:32:15</p>
<p>The osteopath helped bring David back into balance and out of pain of a herniated disc within 3 weeks without pain medication or surgery - back to the dentists: 2nd dentist tries 3 temporary over 11 months, and pushes David to pay $50k for a full mouth reconstruction0:33:15David saw a number of other dentists, who did not want to treat him or be involved - he finds out that there is a continuing education dental school in Nevada and they teach full mouth reconstruction as a way to help headaches, TMJ pain, etc</p>
<p></p>
<p>Filing complain with the dental board</p>
<p>0:34:15</p>
<p>TMJ = mandibular joint pain - the school tells dentists that will increase your revenues by more then 50% guaranteed</p>
<p>0:35:25</p>
<p>They call this 'occlusal science' - but there are other occlusal schools out there and they are awesome - the Dawson Academy is a good school - 'occlusion' just means 'bite' - and if your bite is off, you can get headaches and other problems - to fix that is not about full mouth reconstruction, it is about fixing the bite, and that's what prosthodontists do</p>
<p>0:36:15</p>
<p>Prosthodontists go to an extra 3 years of school - but now there is a for-profit education system that teaches regular dentists about occlusion, and the Dawson Academy is a good one - their approach is 'minimally invasive, one tooth at a time' - David says that if a dentist wants to do more then 1 tooth at a time, they may screw up your bite, and they they'll recommend a full mouth reconstruction for $50k+</p>
<p>0:37:15</p>
<p>Industry experts say the one occlusion school in Las Vegas is the problem, they practice 'voodoo' science - so everyone knows what's going on, but no one is doing anything about it - its about the money - going from $500k a year income to $1 million, that's a huge bump</p>
<p>0:38:15</p>
<p>There is no standard of care, its crazy - so David figures all this out and speaks out, as a result they attack, avoid and not help David - so he's going to multiple dentists, some of them speak to him off the record</p>
<p>0:39:15</p>
<p>As a result, David has been working with the governor to revamp the entire board licensing system in Nevada - David files a dental board complaint - in every US state there is a dental board that is supposed to be overseeing the dentists and protecting patients, but that's not what happens</p>
<p>0:40:15</p>
<p>For the last 30 years, all the dental boards in America all have licensed practitioners on the board - so that means dentists are overseeing dentists - but they are all in on the game of 'drilling for dollars' - so standards of care can't be developed, they are convoluted - the problem is the for-profit motive, where doctors and dentists have to make money but at the same time are supposed to be helping people</p>
<p>0:41:15</p>
<p>But they cause irreversible harm, and irreversible harm allows them to make money of that patient for the rest of their life - and that's the problem with dentistry - David's dental board complaint is denied, they side with the dentists in spite of egregious conduct</p>
<p>0:42:15</p>
<p>The Nevada dental board assigns one investigator, and that person decides everything - there is no review of the decision, no oversight of the investigator - so a lot of power - that investigator is assigned by the director of the dental board, and that investigator depends on the investigate fees</p>
<p></p>
<p>Exploiting elderly patients for profit</p>
<p>0:43:15</p>
<p>Now Governor Sisolak has come in and is changing the game - he's passed a bill, created a commission with check and balances - their plan is to reduce health care costs and protect patients, so they are a patient protection commission - 90% of all health care dollars are spent in the last 3 years of life</p>
<p>0:44:15</p>
<p>That means old people are being experimented on and exploited so hospitals, doctors, administrators can make money - the medical device industry, the pharmacological industry and hospitals / doctors have joined forces to bankrupt the country and profiteer off of that</p>
<p>0:45:15</p>
<p>Family members of elderly people are shamed into doing anything to keep their relative alive, not realizing the probability of getting better from next procedure is so small they are essentially torturing them with fear - and patients will consent to any thing to stay alive</p>
<p>0:46:15</p>
<p>Add that to medical error being 3rd leading cause of death - that's about 300k in the US per year, plus another couple hundred thousand that didn't get recorded - half of those errors are pharmacological - because doctors are so siloed none of them are looking at the whole patient</p>
<p>0:47:15</p>
<p>They should focus on the whole person - we're risking old people's lives so the hospital and medical industry can make money - the other half of medical error deaths are from infections</p>
<p>0:48:15</p>
<p>The animals we eat are all fed antibiotics, so we are continuously exposed to a low level of antibiotics and that empowers the bad bacteria in our microbiome - David says this causes 80% of all disease</p>
<p>0:49:15</p>
<p>David says all disease starts in the gut - David says that red and processed meat are the 2 biggest factors to diabetes</p>
<p>0:50:15</p>
<p>The microbiome is through our entire body - mouth, lungs, stomach, organs - that means all kinds of bacterial DNA in our body, in fact, there is more bacterial DNA then human DNA in our bodies - that means we have to work with the bacteria - 'bad' bacteria is only 'bad' when it dominates the microbiome - and it gets bad when its fed meat, bread, dairy and sugar</p>
<p>0:51:15</p>
<p>That diet makes the more 'bad' bacteria who feed off their own bile - they excrete a toxic chemical that causes inflammation, that triggers the genome, that triggers disposition to disease - that's basic epigenomology</p>
<p>0:52:15</p>
<p>If your grandparents are poorly, you become more susceptible to diseases - it skips a generation - poor diet leads to inflammation making a person even more susceptible</p>
<p>0:53:15</p>
<p>We are in a symbiotic relationship with bacteria, and if we do not feed the 'good' bacteria with fruits, nuts, vegetables and legumes then we will never be in balance with good and bad</p>
<p>bacteria to reach homeostasis which promotes natural healing - when we're not in homeostasis our body in under attack - probiotics are good bacteria</p>
<p></p>
<p>Cannabinoid power</p>
<p>0:54:15</p>
<p>Why don't probiotics work? Because we're not feeding them - the most effective prebiotic foods are raw garlic, cooked onions, and asparagus - these are 3 most effective foods, they contain lots of inulin - green bananas have non-soluble starch, a prebiotic - the most effective prebiotic is bioavailable marijuana</p>
<p>0:55:15</p>
<p>The cannabinoids empower the good bacteria so they produce more bacteria and bring homeostasis twice as fast as any other way - the plant material is considered a prebiotic because its hard to digest, like garlic and onions, and that's what the good bacteria like - warning: at beginning of prebiotic diet you may suffer from extreme gastritis</p>
<p>0:56:15</p>
<p>Probiotics are good bacteria, prebiotics feed good bacteria - so eating a lot of prebiotic food, may have to burp during the night, but only lasts a few months</p>
<p>0:57:15</p>
<p>David's saying that there is a medical error in that medicine is not paying enough attention to the microbiome and diet in relation to disease - surgeons, to this day, think organs in the body are sterile, but there is tons of bacteria on the organs - but in surgery, they are introducing bad bacteria and that's when everything goes to hell - we're 50 years away from this information being disseminated in the educational system, a deeply flawed system</p>
<p>0:58:15</p>
<p>A system so flawed that the FDA was founded by a bunch of petrochemical engineers - and pharmacological research being funded by for-profit companies that feed into the medical education system, and the professors are selling out for money to please the 'overlords', so the whole system is being corrupted from its foundation and it has been since its founding - they believe in ingesting petrochemicals is a medicine - we're devastating the microbiome in our guts and making us more susceptible to disease</p>
<p>0:59:15</p>
<p>Just look back in time, there had been a rise in disease - everything changed in the 90s with the introduction of GMO - and herbicides and pesticides became even more used and they've known since the 60s that they were detrimental - when they introduced GMOs, they began dousing our wheat with...</p>
<p>1:00:15</p>
<p>...a chemical herbicide from Monsanto - GMO, genetically modified organisms, they'll splice in DNA from bacteria into a plant to make it resistant to the herbicide so they can douse a whole field with herbicide and not kill the (corn, wheat, barley) plant - as a result, all our crops are sprayed with a glyphosate 2 weeks before harvest to create a greater yield of the plant</p>
<p>1:01:15</p>
<p>Then we eat all this bread with the herbicide and it kills all the bacteria in our gut - a cascading effect - David calls this a 'Nazi-esque eugenics program' designed to kill off all the old people while profiteering off their suffering - the most prolific form of evil today is modern medicine - these young surgeons thinking they are god incarnate and when someone dies on their table, they go into total denial as to their responsibility</p>
<p>1:03:15</p>
<p>David's touched on 3 medical errors: his experience with the dental industry; the food we grow and eat and its impact on our microbiome; and the over-treatment of the elderly for profit - David was also taking care of an elderly friend who recently died. David was caretaker for the last 15 years of a friend who was his Department Chair when David was an adjunct professor at UNLV - about 3 years ago she was diagnosed with aortic stenosis...</p>
<p>Part 2 of interview with David Moore coming next week.</p>
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<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.I have been living with HIV since 1998. </p>
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<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[David Moore does health differently.
When David was diagnosed with stage 4 stomach cancer and given 3 months to live, he didn’t follow the usual medical path of radiation, chemotherapy and surgery.
When David’s mentor named him in her medical directive, he pushed back hard against the surgeons who wanted to give her more high cost, high risk surgeries to run up their profit.
When David’s dentist performed procedures without David’s consent, he went public - and to the state governor - to expose dental board corruption.
In part one of this 2 part interview, David Moore shares how an undiagnosed illness lead to stomach cancer, and how he cured that cancer without toxic medications.
SHOW NOTES:

Childhood trauma
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David was born in 1970 and grew up in Cocoa Beach, Florida - David thinks the 70s were a great decade - but his home life was more like bombing in Vietnam - David suffered serious child abuse, emotional trauma, emotional neglect, molested by a babysitter, and on and on
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David has 3 older brothers, and they were all drug addicts and highly abusive - David's mother was raped by her father for 10 years - she suffered from narcissistic personality disorder and took it out on her kids - it was an emotional Vietnam - but, from the outside, no one knew what was going on and narcissists are very clever - David's father was aloof and an engineer with NASA and was never home - David loved and adored him
0:07:15
That left David struggling in adulthood - and that can be attributed to traumatic brain wiring, making people more susceptible to addiction - they never experienced unconditional love - childhood trauma is a scourge upon the world, they pass it onto their children - David thinks about 40% of Americans have childhood trauma - but David did have an idyllic childhood, he made sure he was rarely home
0:08:15
David's focus became to empathize with everyone in an effort to understand what was going on - by the time he was 15 he decided to dedicate his life to helping other - he realized all his friends parents were messed up and that messed up the kids - alcoholics, drug addicts - but they were all rich white people, nobody was poor
0:09:15
David couldn't understand until he was in his 40s and realized that his parents suffered childhood trauma too - his mother's abuse was extreme neglect, he was a 'mistake' and she didn't want to have him
0:10:15
David thinks the neural connections didn't connect because he wasn't nurtured, as a result David has a form of autism - but it enabled him to detach from his mother's abuse - and that helped him survive that - he then focused on his friends and getting them away from adults
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David's father was David's stability - he adored David, but he didn't speak much
0:12:15
David suspects his father was on the spectrum - he was a loner, didn't socialize - David didn't know until after his father died, that he was in the Office of Strategic Services in World War II, and he was in the CIA his whole time - he was aloof, didn't share a lot - his cover was an electrical engineer working for different government contractors0:13:15The childhood neglect caused him to scream a lot - he would wake up screaming - all the screaming created a high arch narrow palate, and that created a cranio malformation - so David's bite is totally unique

Stage 4 stomach cancer
0:14:15David's bite cannot be adjusted because of the malformation - the cranio malformation is called left side bending rotation made it so his left and right mandibular joints were out of place, but not causing pain, but dysfunctional in the sense they weren't normal
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As a child David was a sugar addict, and in visiting dentists, he noticed that it was insanely painful - he had a lot of mercury fillings on his upper arch - but they would fall out, he would swallow them - Florida is a weird state
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        <title>Daryl Brown: Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>We have all probably heard or read about how antidepressants can cause sexual dysfunction such as decreased libido, erectile dysfunction, decreased response to sexual stimuli, and delayed or absent orgasm. Given how widespread the use of antidepressants are, you may have personal experience with an antidepressant affecting your sexual function.</p>
<p>What you may not know is that research consistently finds that sexual dysfunction continues in the majority of people even after they stop taking the medication. This is known as Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction, or PSSD. </p>
<p>Less frequently, another form of sexual dysfunction may continue to manifest even after discontinuation of the medication: Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder (PGAD). This is essentially the opposite of PSSD, with PGAD causing a relentless sense of arousal and discomfort in the genitals, but without any accompanying feeling of desire. </p>
<p>So this is what can happen to adults. What happens when children are given antidepressants, right through their puberty? How does it affect their sexual function?</p>
<p>In this episode I interview Daryl Brown about his experience with the mental health care system when he started to be medicated with antidepressants when he was 9 years old - even though he wasn’t depressed - and medicated with antipsychotics, even though he wasn’t having psychosis.  Daryl shares how it has affected his sexual function, and by extension his sense of self and his intimate relationships.</p>
<p>Daryl asks the tough questions of the medical system: How could he, a mere child, have been given multiple medications - for over a decade - that provided no benefit, only harm? And how is that doctors continue to deny antidepressants can cause sexual dysfunction after they have been discontinued, in spite of research and patient reports confirming the harm?</p>
<p></p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>OCD and Tourette's syndrome</p>
<p>0:07:15</p>
<p>Daryl grew up in a suburb of London (United Kingdom) with 2 good parents, they are not together, but lucky to have them - a mix of nature and the city - 2 older siblings, 1 younger sibling</p>
<p>0:08:15</p>
<p>But missed a lot of family time due to mental health issues and hospitals - and his behaviour changed on the psychiatric drugs - and he went to special needs school far away - Daryl had some movement disorder and phobias since he was a baby</p>
<p>0:09:15</p>
<p>His brother noticed Daryl had strange movements as a baby and told others that Daryl had Tourette's Syndrome before he was diagnosed - Daryl got much sicker when he was about 9 years old, his OCD (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder'>obsessive compulsive disorder</a>) and Tourette's got disabling worse</p>
<p>0:10:15</p>
<p>Daryl OCD caused him to spin around, and do repetitive rituals in a particular way - if it didn't feel like it went right, he would have to start the ritual over again - when it got really bad it was life consuming - he lost a lot of sleep worrying - a common feature</p>
<p>0:11:15</p>
<p>OCD symptoms was frustrating for Daryl, when it got out of control - Tourette's manifested has a lot of arm movements, leg movements, constantly parts of his body moving, even if people couldn't see what was happening with his toes and fingers, known has motor tics - Daryl also had a vocal tic of clearing his throat and making a weird noise</p>
<p>0:13:15</p>
<p>When Daryl's OCD and Tourette's got really bad, it was hard to live with the symptoms, but when mild they felt like a normal part of Daryl's life - for Daryl, only when its a the extremes does is it bothersome, and that may sound strange to some people - it doesn't interfere too much</p>
<p>0:14:15</p>
<p>Daryl remembers that his school was pushed around his phobias - other kids were yelled at, Daryl was yelled at when he coloured outside the lines - he was constantly being punished and he got scared at the way the other children were shouted at as well - they pushed him really hard about his phobias, and he tried really hard to break through and he did, but it was very hard - it all became very stressful and made everything a lot worse - at one point he ran away from school</p>
<p>0:15:15</p>
<p>The OCD and Tourette's was interfering with Daryl's ability to get dressed for school and it was all a stress on his Mom as she had to go to work - as Daryl got sicker, she called the local GP and child psychiatrist and they started prescribing medications - Daryl was only 9 years old</p>
<p>0:16:15</p>
<p>The child psychiatrist was convinced Daryl had OCD and brought an orange sugary liquid for Daryl to drink - it glowed in the dark - turns out the orange drink contained an SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor - an anti depressant) - though Daryl didn't have depression - NICE (the UK's National Institute for Health and Care Excellence) guidelines said antidepressants are the standard treatment for OCD</p>
<p></p>
<p>Antidepressants and antipsychotics</p>
<p>0:18:15</p>
<p>Daryl doesn't remember the effects of it, other than it tasted good because of the sugar and it had a cool colour - but it had no effect on his symptoms - because he was so sick he missed some school, so they visited a children's mental hospital</p>
<p>0:19:15</p>
<p>They said he needed to come in straight away - it was a diagnostic hospital, so children would be there for a year, there would be cameras watching them, and meeting with psychiatrists and psychologists and everyone in between - there was also a school so Daryl got some form of education - they put Daryl on anti-psychotic medications for the Tourette's Syndrome, also according to NICE guidelines - even though Daryl didn't have psychosis - so they are giving him both antidepressants and antipsychotics</p>
<p>0:20:15</p>
<p>The antipsychotics had no positive effect on his Tourette's, they just made his movements even more tiring on his body and upsetting - after a few months, his symptoms died down a little bit because some normality to his environment had returned and he was around other children - not because of the medications</p>
<p>0:21:15</p>
<p>Daryl's body also got used to the mixture medications, so he started to feel less tired - but he put on a lot of weight, when historically he was impossible for him to gain excess weight - Daryl also started to experience cravings, but he didn't feel in control of his actions and his emotions were all over the place, which is not like Daryl - crying one minute, angry the next, arguing with everyone, but didn't know why he was arguing but couldn't stop himself</p>
<p>0:22:15</p>
<p>It was frightening and confusing - after 9 months they confirmed diagnosis of OCD and Tourette's Syndrome - Daryl was recommended to go to a special needs school, but it was the middle of the school year and it was a nightmare to find a school - they did find one very far away, but that meant Daryl was not part of his home community</p>
<p>0:23:15</p>
<p>Daryl also continued treatment in a center that specialized in OCD and Tourette's in children and adolescents in south London - but that was also very far from where Daryl lived, so he had to go to that center and then school, and it was too much traveling and stress - and Daryl wouldn't say there was any real treatment - they expected Daryl to continue to take the antidepressants and antipsychotics, there was no plan to come off of them - it was expected that Daryl take them, no questions asked</p>
<p>0:24:15</p>
<p>Living away and going to another school was hard - if Daryl was strange to the other children in the community before, he was a lot more strange when he was removed - he would get teased in the street, and that got worse</p>
<p>0:25:15</p>
<p>Daryl really missed out on any thing in the community and didn't have a social life or a normal childhood - he was a normal intelligent child and wanted to do what every body else was doing - he did get to go home on weekends - the treatment center maybe helped with some of the phobias Daryl had</p>
<p></p>
<p>Seizures. Brain Tumour?</p>
<p>0:26:15</p>
<p>Daryl stopped going to the after school day center after about 2 years - but there was no plan to stop the medication - sometimes there were promises that maybe one day in the future if their treatment miraculously works, he might be able to stop the meds - but there was no realistic plan to stop them, even when he stopped going</p>
<p>0:27:15</p>
<p>Daryl continued on the medication until he was living on his own and was 21 years old - Daryl had some seizures and passed out a couple of times - he didn't know yet it was from the medications - Daryl just attributed the new symptoms to OCD and Tourette's</p>
<p>0:28:15</p>
<p>Even though it was a special needs school, Daryl joined the football (soccer to North Americans) team and started to lose the excess weight - but it was hard to run, he was wheezing, because of the medications - but it was good to play football for the short periods he could - because the meds changed Daryl's behaviour so much, he was always arguing and he wasn't the same person - their only explanation was that Daryl had mental illness - as a result, Daryl lost contact and relationships with his siblings</p>
<p>0:29:15</p>
<p>The medications also blunted Daryl's impulsivity - he ran into traffic once - Daryl knows that he did not think that way before the meds, or since he stopped the meds - another time he took all his meds at once, not to kill himself, but because he couldn't stop the impulse</p>
<p>0:30:15</p>
<p>When Daryl was 21 years old he got very, very sick - and his erections stopped working properly - his penis wouldn't respond as it previously had with women - nor was he having the spontaneous erections like other young men</p>
<p>0:31:15</p>
<p>That was very scary - Daryl looked at the leaflets for the medications and saw sexual dysfunction far down the list - he went to the psychiatrist and he said it was probably the medications, we know about this, go off the medications and every thing will go back to normal - he just had to get a blood test to check on things - the results showed that Daryl's <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolactin'>prolactin</a> was through the roof - and wouldn't go down for a long time and they said that was impossible, 'nobody's prolactin stays that high'</p>
<p>0:32:15</p>
<p>They thought maybe it was a brain tumour causing high prolactin, but didn't really elaborate and left Daryl thinking he may have a brain tumour and wondering how long he has to live - but it wasn't a brain tumour, his prolactin levels normalized but his thyroid was messed up - eventually his blood tests normalized but the symptoms didn't go away and his 'willy' never went back to normal - the doctors kept fobbing him off, 'sometimes it takes a couple of weeks' - 'sometimes a couple of months' - then they said it was impossible because the drug had completely left his system and it had nothing to do with them</p>
<p></p>
<p>Withdrawal weirdness</p>
<p>0:33:15</p>
<p>Then they started to say it was caused by a mental illness - the withdrawal actually caused a weird psychosis, deluded and confused thinking and weird adrenaline, all sorts of symptoms like brain zaps, even to his genitals when they were over-sensitized during withdrawal, like when he ejaculated when he was shopping, it is known as PGAD - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_genital_arousal_disorder'>Persistent General Arousal Disorder</a> - and this is known to happen temporarily during withdrawal - but at 21 Daryl knew this was not normal</p>
<p>0:34:15</p>
<p>But the doctors and psychiatrists didn't believe in that, but Daryl knew full well what was going on and wondered how little did they know? - he looked up on the internet the medications he was on - they had added another med, <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregabalin'>Lyrica</a>, to his antidepressant and antipsychotic, and the doctors touted how is was a 'wonder drug' and 'amazing'</p>
<p>0:35:15</p>
<p>Who knows how many other people they've given it to - its classified as a class 3 drug now, a street drug - Daryl never had an apology for that either - so he had to withdraw from all of those meds - they don't know how these meds work, even the drug companies don't know how or why - Daryl felt fear realizing for the 1st time how little these psychiatrists and psychologists really knew</p>
<p>0:36:15</p>
<p>The anxiety caused by withdrawal was a lot to deal with - also brain zaps, a full body 'electric shock sensations' during withdrawal as described in the NICE guidelines - Daryl started by tapering off the medications by cutting up the pills, but at 21 and his dick not working, and realizing the so-called experts didn't know much, was very scary and he wasn't going to keep taking them - he completely stopped taking them after about 4 weeks because they were making his dick numb and not work</p>
<p>0:38:15</p>
<p>Daryl wanted to know who did this to him and why - he felt targeted in that they were giving a child with disabilities medications that they did not know how it would affect him, its really abusive and he didn't feel like he was safe - and it is very lucrative for these pharmaceutical industries and in reality it is very dangerous and nobody stepped in any where</p>
<p>0:39:15</p>
<p>When Daryl was off the medications, there was no change in his OCD or Tourette's symptoms - there was no need to take these substances - Daryl says you would think they would have questioned that</p>
<p>0:40:15</p>
<p>Daryl advocates for safety measures to be taken and joined the Everyday Psych Victims Project and he's interviewed a few people who've been through the mental health system to give them and himself a voice - there is a 'side effect' charity with some psychiatrists and psychopharmacologists that know about this and have read the research, they're called Rxisk http://www.rxisk.org/ - and they are very aware of the permanent sexual side effects of antidepressants</p>
<p></p>
<p>Brain Zaps and a Marathon</p>
<p>0:41:15</p>
<p>Both <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor'>SSRI</a>s and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin%E2%80%93norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor'>SNRI</a>s - they've started a campaign to raise money and awareness - so Daryl signed up for a marathon to raise money and awareness for them - but it is hard to ask people to give money because your dick doesn't work - and it is not a mainstream charity, and some people won't donate for that reason - but Daryl followed through and did the marathon even though he missed all the training due to injury, but managed to finish somehow</p>
<p>0:42:15</p>
<p>Daryl has always liked sport, football, exercise - during withdrawal needed to distract from the horrible physical symptoms, and one of the ways to deal with that was to go for a run - doing sprints especially helped to manage his adrenaline - however, it felt like his life plans had been thrown out the window and he was very upset about what had been done to his genitals</p>
<p>0:43:15</p>
<p>But it doesn't just affect his genitals, it affected everything, how he felt and related to the world, especially at that age - so he focused on sport as a distraction, and that gave him some experience for the marathon, but he only played football twice about 2 weeks before the marathon - he ran until about half way then started walking and the last 10 kms was painful and a 6 hour finish time</p>
<p>0:44:15</p>
<p>Daryl tried to train through the injury as much as he could, but it came to a point where he was doing more damage - but he was determined to show up at the start line</p>
<p>0:45:15</p>
<p>He thought he would walk it, but when you line up at the start line you run with everyone else and he just tried to keep going - the music, crowds and kids cheering so he kept going as far as he could</p>
<p>0:46:15</p>
<p>With the brain zaps, his dick not working properly, or ejaculating sporadically, and pain in stomach - and that has not gone away, there is not a day that he is not constipated - Daryl had been medicated for over a decade, all through puberty</p>
<p>0:47:15</p>
<p>It impacted his emotions, angry one minute, sad the next, hyper the next - impeded his ability to think - he had to untangle his delusions and illusions - the adrenaline and emotions were all over the place and exercise even those out a bit - Daryl will turn 30 soon</p>
<p>0:48:15</p>
<p>In his early 20s it was extremely difficult to socialize, he felt like an alien, and he didn't want to do those things like flirting - it was horrible to be the only one in the world in that situation0:49:15He didn't think he'd ever socialize again, he wondered what planet he was living on - there is less pressure now to be flirtatious, so its a little easier - but he still often feels terrible when he compares himself to other people - so it still affects him a lot, but less so</p>
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<p>Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction</p>
<p>0:50:15</p>
<p>Daryl still has quite a lot of pain, the stomach pain can be quite nasty - he does part-time work and volunteering, but the social part of his life is always missing - he has a leg injury from 2 years ago and still no diagnosis and he's limping very badly, he barely made it down stairs this morning, and this is after having hip surgery - there is talk of a hip replacement and pain killers but not sure what will happen with that</p>
<p>0:51:15</p>
<p>His hip and leg problems could be due to pressure from his bowels, he doesn't really know - and there has not been much research on side effects of psychiatric drugs - and he's been put off seeing doctors</p>
<p>0:52:15</p>
<p>Daryl likes watching football, but would rather be playing - he likes writing songs on his guitar and going for a jog - so exercise is a big part of self care and he's not sure what he'll do if his leg doesn't get better - though it hurts a lot to play guitar</p>
<p>0:53:15</p>
<p>Daryl has a couple of good friends that he could tell what has happened to him and they still liked him as a human being and that helped a lot because he felt he wasn't interested in flirting any more - some people thought he was going through a strange weird period, or was dealing with trauma, and that pushed people away as well</p>
<p>0:54:15</p>
<p>Daryl was wary to be public about his experience, set up a website and did a couple of videos, and started telling people in his life as well, to share his experience</p>
<p>0:55:15</p>
<p>There was no outpatient groups for adults, and they weren't allowed to socialize with other patients outside the hospital or clinics - one of their concerns is they don't want patients to meet, and they don't want patients to talk about their experiences with medications - Daryl thought he was the only one having this side effect and was on his own, and wasn't allowed to talk to the others to see if they also had this side effect - it is called <a href='https://rxisk.org/post-ssri-sexual-dysfunction-pssd/'>Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction</a> (PSSD)</p>
<p>0:56:15</p>
<p>It means that the sexual side effects of SSRIs continue even after you stop taking them - he discovered others on the internet and that's when he decided to do something about it, since keeping it a secret wasn't working so well - it felt good to know there was other people, and that he was doing something about it - he also found other people that had bad experiences in the mental health system as well like <a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/speakoutagainstpsychiatry/'>Speak Out Against Psychiatry,</a> <a href='http://friends-of-east-end-loonies.blogspot.com/'>Friends of East London Loonies</a>, and <a href='https://www.psychvictims.com/'>The Every Day Psych Project</a></p>
<p>0:57:15</p>
<p>Daryl doesn't want this to happen to any one else, and the lack of regulation - it is criminal except they've got themselves covered legally - there is no reason except bank balances and careers that are set up on misinformation and secrecy and it needs to stop - and Daryl deserves validation that itactually happened instead of living his whole life with some imaginary thing that isn't happening</p>
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<p>Doctor Denial of PSSD</p>
<p>0:58:15</p>
<p>When he was a child, being around other children also going through similar experiences was good, but the drugs were not necessary</p>
<p>0:59:15</p>
<p>The school could have been more accommodating to a child instead of being so aggressive when that child wasn't exactly how they wanted them to be - but the staff were nice - he was scared before going in that the staff would be in white coats and do weird experiments on him, which they did, but not that they were collecting the data on their experiments - the staff were nice and well meaning, but obviously somebody should have intervened and stopped them from drugging every one into oblivion</p>
<p>1:00:15</p>
<p>His relationships now with his parents is good, but its taken a chunk out his life - when Daryl told his Dad about PSSD, his father said he was worried this would happen - his Mom was upset to, she was lied to and told the meds were safe - but the doctors insist that there can't be any permanent harm once the meds are out of the system - there is no risk, 'there's nothing to lose' as they say</p>
<p>1:01:15</p>
<p>They try to convince any one in his life that Daryl is mad and its not real - and they tried to turn his family against him and not to believe him - so its obviously very upsetting to go through - when Daryl was going through withdrawal he was paranoid so it was difficult to speak to his Mom and Dad - and he missed out a lot of life with his siblings</p>
<p>1:02:15</p>
<p>Daryl feels like his OCD and Tourette's symptoms are part of him, and they are not always at their worse - so its not the worse thing in the world - Daryl has hunch, in listening to other parents, that vaccines as babies may be causing tics and stuff - but there is a lack of research on vaccinations as well</p>
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<p>Connect with Daryl Brown:</p>
<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/RunAgainstCastr'>@RunAgainstCastr</a></p>
<p>Daryl's blog: <a href='http://www.pssdblog.blogspot.com/'>PSSDblog</a></p>
<p>Daryl's <a href='http://www.runagainstcastration.wordpress.com/'>marathon campaign</a></p>
<p>Info about Post-SSRI Sexual Dysfunction: <a href='http://www.rxisk.org/'>Rxisk</a></p>
<p><a href='http://psychvictims.com/'>The Everyday Psych Victims Project</a> - Their <a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLKXkRFx-NLV8c-73IRmzrg'>YouTube</a> and <a href='https://twitter.com/PsychVictims'>Twitter</a></p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have all probably heard or read about how antidepressants can cause sexual dysfunction such as decreased libido, erectile dysfunction, decreased response to sexual stimuli, and delayed or absent orgasm. Given how widespread the use of antidepressants are, you may have personal experience with an antidepressant affecting your sexual function.</p>
<p>What you may not know is that research consistently finds that sexual dysfunction continues in the majority of people even after they stop taking the medication. This is known as Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction, or PSSD. </p>
<p>Less frequently, another form of sexual dysfunction may continue to manifest even after discontinuation of the medication: Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder (PGAD). This is essentially the opposite of PSSD, with PGAD causing a relentless sense of arousal and discomfort in the genitals, but without any accompanying feeling of desire. </p>
<p>So this is what can happen to adults. What happens when children are given antidepressants, right through their puberty? How does it affect their sexual function?</p>
<p>In this episode I interview Daryl Brown about his experience with the mental health care system when he started to be medicated with antidepressants when he was 9 years old - even though he wasn’t depressed - and medicated with antipsychotics, even though he wasn’t having psychosis.  Daryl shares how it has affected his sexual function, and by extension his sense of self and his intimate relationships.</p>
<p>Daryl asks the tough questions of the medical system: How could he, a mere child, have been given multiple medications - for over a decade - that provided no benefit, only harm? And how is that doctors continue to deny antidepressants can cause sexual dysfunction after they have been discontinued, in spite of research and patient reports confirming the harm?</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>OCD and Tourette's syndrome</p>
<p>0:07:15</p>
<p>Daryl grew up in a suburb of London (United Kingdom) with 2 good parents, they are not together, but lucky to have them - a mix of nature and the city - 2 older siblings, 1 younger sibling</p>
<p>0:08:15</p>
<p>But missed a lot of family time due to mental health issues and hospitals - and his behaviour changed on the psychiatric drugs - and he went to special needs school far away - Daryl had some movement disorder and phobias since he was a baby</p>
<p>0:09:15</p>
<p>His brother noticed Daryl had strange movements as a baby and told others that Daryl had Tourette's Syndrome before he was diagnosed - Daryl got much sicker when he was about 9 years old, his OCD (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder'>obsessive compulsive disorder</a>) and Tourette's got disabling worse</p>
<p>0:10:15</p>
<p>Daryl OCD caused him to spin around, and do repetitive rituals in a particular way - if it didn't feel like it went right, he would have to start the ritual over again - when it got really bad it was life consuming - he lost a lot of sleep worrying - a common feature</p>
<p>0:11:15</p>
<p>OCD symptoms was frustrating for Daryl, when it got out of control - Tourette's manifested has a lot of arm movements, leg movements, constantly parts of his body moving, even if people couldn't see what was happening with his toes and fingers, known has motor tics - Daryl also had a vocal tic of clearing his throat and making a weird noise</p>
<p>0:13:15</p>
<p>When Daryl's OCD and Tourette's got really bad, it was hard to live with the symptoms, but when mild they felt like a normal part of Daryl's life - for Daryl, only when its a the extremes does is it bothersome, and that may sound strange to some people - it doesn't interfere too much</p>
<p>0:14:15</p>
<p>Daryl remembers that his school was pushed around his phobias - other kids were yelled at, Daryl was yelled at when he coloured outside the lines - he was constantly being punished and he got scared at the way the other children were shouted at as well - they pushed him really hard about his phobias, and he tried really hard to break through and he did, but it was very hard - it all became very stressful and made everything a lot worse - at one point he ran away from school</p>
<p>0:15:15</p>
<p>The OCD and Tourette's was interfering with Daryl's ability to get dressed for school and it was all a stress on his Mom as she had to go to work - as Daryl got sicker, she called the local GP and child psychiatrist and they started prescribing medications - Daryl was only 9 years old</p>
<p>0:16:15</p>
<p>The child psychiatrist was convinced Daryl had OCD and brought an orange sugary liquid for Daryl to drink - it glowed in the dark - turns out the orange drink contained an SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor - an anti depressant) - though Daryl didn't have depression - NICE (the UK's National Institute for Health and Care Excellence) guidelines said antidepressants are the standard treatment for OCD</p>
<p></p>
<p>Antidepressants and antipsychotics</p>
<p>0:18:15</p>
<p>Daryl doesn't remember the effects of it, other than it tasted good because of the sugar and it had a cool colour - but it had no effect on his symptoms - because he was so sick he missed some school, so they visited a children's mental hospital</p>
<p>0:19:15</p>
<p>They said he needed to come in straight away - it was a diagnostic hospital, so children would be there for a year, there would be cameras watching them, and meeting with psychiatrists and psychologists and everyone in between - there was also a school so Daryl got some form of education - they put Daryl on anti-psychotic medications for the Tourette's Syndrome, also according to NICE guidelines - even though Daryl didn't have psychosis - so they are giving him both antidepressants and antipsychotics</p>
<p>0:20:15</p>
<p>The antipsychotics had no positive effect on his Tourette's, they just made his movements even more tiring on his body and upsetting - after a few months, his symptoms died down a little bit because some normality to his environment had returned and he was around other children - not because of the medications</p>
<p>0:21:15</p>
<p>Daryl's body also got used to the mixture medications, so he started to feel less tired - but he put on a lot of weight, when historically he was impossible for him to gain excess weight - Daryl also started to experience cravings, but he didn't feel in control of his actions and his emotions were all over the place, which is not like Daryl - crying one minute, angry the next, arguing with everyone, but didn't know why he was arguing but couldn't stop himself</p>
<p>0:22:15</p>
<p>It was frightening and confusing - after 9 months they confirmed diagnosis of OCD and Tourette's Syndrome - Daryl was recommended to go to a special needs school, but it was the middle of the school year and it was a nightmare to find a school - they did find one very far away, but that meant Daryl was not part of his home community</p>
<p>0:23:15</p>
<p>Daryl also continued treatment in a center that specialized in OCD and Tourette's in children and adolescents in south London - but that was also very far from where Daryl lived, so he had to go to that center and then school, and it was too much traveling and stress - and Daryl wouldn't say there was any real treatment - they expected Daryl to continue to take the antidepressants and antipsychotics, there was no plan to come off of them - it was expected that Daryl take them, no questions asked</p>
<p>0:24:15</p>
<p>Living away and going to another school was hard - if Daryl was strange to the other children in the community before, he was a lot more strange when he was removed - he would get teased in the street, and that got worse</p>
<p>0:25:15</p>
<p>Daryl really missed out on any thing in the community and didn't have a social life or a normal childhood - he was a normal intelligent child and wanted to do what every body else was doing - he did get to go home on weekends - the treatment center maybe helped with some of the phobias Daryl had</p>
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<p>Seizures. Brain Tumour?</p>
<p>0:26:15</p>
<p>Daryl stopped going to the after school day center after about 2 years - but there was no plan to stop the medication - sometimes there were promises that maybe one day in the future if their treatment miraculously works, he might be able to stop the meds - but there was no realistic plan to stop them, even when he stopped going</p>
<p>0:27:15</p>
<p>Daryl continued on the medication until he was living on his own and was 21 years old - Daryl had some seizures and passed out a couple of times - he didn't know yet it was from the medications - Daryl just attributed the new symptoms to OCD and Tourette's</p>
<p>0:28:15</p>
<p>Even though it was a special needs school, Daryl joined the football (soccer to North Americans) team and started to lose the excess weight - but it was hard to run, he was wheezing, because of the medications - but it was good to play football for the short periods he could - because the meds changed Daryl's behaviour so much, he was always arguing and he wasn't the same person - their only explanation was that Daryl had mental illness - as a result, Daryl lost contact and relationships with his siblings</p>
<p>0:29:15</p>
<p>The medications also blunted Daryl's impulsivity - he ran into traffic once - Daryl knows that he did not think that way before the meds, or since he stopped the meds - another time he took all his meds at once, not to kill himself, but because he couldn't stop the impulse</p>
<p>0:30:15</p>
<p>When Daryl was 21 years old he got very, very sick - and his erections stopped working properly - his penis wouldn't respond as it previously had with women - nor was he having the spontaneous erections like other young men</p>
<p>0:31:15</p>
<p>That was very scary - Daryl looked at the leaflets for the medications and saw sexual dysfunction far down the list - he went to the psychiatrist and he said it was probably the medications, we know about this, go off the medications and every thing will go back to normal - he just had to get a blood test to check on things - the results showed that Daryl's <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolactin'>prolactin</a> was through the roof - and wouldn't go down for a long time and they said that was impossible, 'nobody's prolactin stays that high'</p>
<p>0:32:15</p>
<p>They thought maybe it was a brain tumour causing high prolactin, but didn't really elaborate and left Daryl thinking he may have a brain tumour and wondering how long he has to live - but it wasn't a brain tumour, his prolactin levels normalized but his thyroid was messed up - eventually his blood tests normalized but the symptoms didn't go away and his 'willy' never went back to normal - the doctors kept fobbing him off, 'sometimes it takes a couple of weeks' - 'sometimes a couple of months' - then they said it was impossible because the drug had completely left his system and it had nothing to do with them</p>
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<p>Withdrawal weirdness</p>
<p>0:33:15</p>
<p>Then they started to say it was caused by a mental illness - the withdrawal actually caused a weird psychosis, deluded and confused thinking and weird adrenaline, all sorts of symptoms like brain zaps, even to his genitals when they were over-sensitized during withdrawal, like when he ejaculated when he was shopping, it is known as PGAD - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_genital_arousal_disorder'>Persistent General Arousal Disorder</a> - and this is known to happen temporarily during withdrawal - but at 21 Daryl knew this was not normal</p>
<p>0:34:15</p>
<p>But the doctors and psychiatrists didn't believe in that, but Daryl knew full well what was going on and wondered how little did they know? - he looked up on the internet the medications he was on - they had added another med, <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregabalin'>Lyrica</a>, to his antidepressant and antipsychotic, and the doctors touted how is was a 'wonder drug' and 'amazing'</p>
<p>0:35:15</p>
<p>Who knows how many other people they've given it to - its classified as a class 3 drug now, a street drug - Daryl never had an apology for that either - so he had to withdraw from all of those meds - they don't know how these meds work, even the drug companies don't know how or why - Daryl felt fear realizing for the 1st time how little these psychiatrists and psychologists really knew</p>
<p>0:36:15</p>
<p>The anxiety caused by withdrawal was a lot to deal with - also brain zaps, a full body 'electric shock sensations' during withdrawal as described in the NICE guidelines - Daryl started by tapering off the medications by cutting up the pills, but at 21 and his dick not working, and realizing the so-called experts didn't know much, was very scary and he wasn't going to keep taking them - he completely stopped taking them after about 4 weeks because they were making his dick numb and not work</p>
<p>0:38:15</p>
<p>Daryl wanted to know who did this to him and why - he felt targeted in that they were giving a child with disabilities medications that they did not know how it would affect him, its really abusive and he didn't feel like he was safe - and it is very lucrative for these pharmaceutical industries and in reality it is very dangerous and nobody stepped in any where</p>
<p>0:39:15</p>
<p>When Daryl was off the medications, there was no change in his OCD or Tourette's symptoms - there was no need to take these substances - Daryl says you would think they would have questioned that</p>
<p>0:40:15</p>
<p>Daryl advocates for safety measures to be taken and joined the Everyday Psych Victims Project and he's interviewed a few people who've been through the mental health system to give them and himself a voice - there is a 'side effect' charity with some psychiatrists and psychopharmacologists that know about this and have read the research, they're called Rxisk http://www.rxisk.org/ - and they are very aware of the permanent sexual side effects of antidepressants</p>
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<p>Brain Zaps and a Marathon</p>
<p>0:41:15</p>
<p>Both <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor'>SSRI</a>s and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin%E2%80%93norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor'>SNRI</a>s - they've started a campaign to raise money and awareness - so Daryl signed up for a marathon to raise money and awareness for them - but it is hard to ask people to give money because your dick doesn't work - and it is not a mainstream charity, and some people won't donate for that reason - but Daryl followed through and did the marathon even though he missed all the training due to injury, but managed to finish somehow</p>
<p>0:42:15</p>
<p>Daryl has always liked sport, football, exercise - during withdrawal needed to distract from the horrible physical symptoms, and one of the ways to deal with that was to go for a run - doing sprints especially helped to manage his adrenaline - however, it felt like his life plans had been thrown out the window and he was very upset about what had been done to his genitals</p>
<p>0:43:15</p>
<p>But it doesn't just affect his genitals, it affected everything, how he felt and related to the world, especially at that age - so he focused on sport as a distraction, and that gave him some experience for the marathon, but he only played football twice about 2 weeks before the marathon - he ran until about half way then started walking and the last 10 kms was painful and a 6 hour finish time</p>
<p>0:44:15</p>
<p>Daryl tried to train through the injury as much as he could, but it came to a point where he was doing more damage - but he was determined to show up at the start line</p>
<p>0:45:15</p>
<p>He thought he would walk it, but when you line up at the start line you run with everyone else and he just tried to keep going - the music, crowds and kids cheering so he kept going as far as he could</p>
<p>0:46:15</p>
<p>With the brain zaps, his dick not working properly, or ejaculating sporadically, and pain in stomach - and that has not gone away, there is not a day that he is not constipated - Daryl had been medicated for over a decade, all through puberty</p>
<p>0:47:15</p>
<p>It impacted his emotions, angry one minute, sad the next, hyper the next - impeded his ability to think - he had to untangle his delusions and illusions - the adrenaline and emotions were all over the place and exercise even those out a bit - Daryl will turn 30 soon</p>
<p>0:48:15</p>
<p>In his early 20s it was extremely difficult to socialize, he felt like an alien, and he didn't want to do those things like flirting - it was horrible to be the only one in the world in that situation0:49:15He didn't think he'd ever socialize again, he wondered what planet he was living on - there is less pressure now to be flirtatious, so its a little easier - but he still often feels terrible when he compares himself to other people - so it still affects him a lot, but less so</p>
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<p>Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction</p>
<p>0:50:15</p>
<p>Daryl still has quite a lot of pain, the stomach pain can be quite nasty - he does part-time work and volunteering, but the social part of his life is always missing - he has a leg injury from 2 years ago and still no diagnosis and he's limping very badly, he barely made it down stairs this morning, and this is after having hip surgery - there is talk of a hip replacement and pain killers but not sure what will happen with that</p>
<p>0:51:15</p>
<p>His hip and leg problems could be due to pressure from his bowels, he doesn't really know - and there has not been much research on side effects of psychiatric drugs - and he's been put off seeing doctors</p>
<p>0:52:15</p>
<p>Daryl likes watching football, but would rather be playing - he likes writing songs on his guitar and going for a jog - so exercise is a big part of self care and he's not sure what he'll do if his leg doesn't get better - though it hurts a lot to play guitar</p>
<p>0:53:15</p>
<p>Daryl has a couple of good friends that he could tell what has happened to him and they still liked him as a human being and that helped a lot because he felt he wasn't interested in flirting any more - some people thought he was going through a strange weird period, or was dealing with trauma, and that pushed people away as well</p>
<p>0:54:15</p>
<p>Daryl was wary to be public about his experience, set up a website and did a couple of videos, and started telling people in his life as well, to share his experience</p>
<p>0:55:15</p>
<p>There was no outpatient groups for adults, and they weren't allowed to socialize with other patients outside the hospital or clinics - one of their concerns is they don't want patients to meet, and they don't want patients to talk about their experiences with medications - Daryl thought he was the only one having this side effect and was on his own, and wasn't allowed to talk to the others to see if they also had this side effect - it is called <a href='https://rxisk.org/post-ssri-sexual-dysfunction-pssd/'>Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction</a> (PSSD)</p>
<p>0:56:15</p>
<p>It means that the sexual side effects of SSRIs continue even after you stop taking them - he discovered others on the internet and that's when he decided to do something about it, since keeping it a secret wasn't working so well - it felt good to know there was other people, and that he was doing something about it - he also found other people that had bad experiences in the mental health system as well like <a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/speakoutagainstpsychiatry/'>Speak Out Against Psychiatry,</a> <a href='http://friends-of-east-end-loonies.blogspot.com/'>Friends of East London Loonies</a>, and <a href='https://www.psychvictims.com/'>The Every Day Psych Project</a></p>
<p>0:57:15</p>
<p>Daryl doesn't want this to happen to any one else, and the lack of regulation - it is criminal except they've got themselves covered legally - there is no reason except bank balances and careers that are set up on misinformation and secrecy and it needs to stop - and Daryl deserves validation that itactually happened instead of living his whole life with some imaginary thing that isn't happening</p>
<p></p>
<p>Doctor Denial of PSSD</p>
<p>0:58:15</p>
<p>When he was a child, being around other children also going through similar experiences was good, but the drugs were not necessary</p>
<p>0:59:15</p>
<p>The school could have been more accommodating to a child instead of being so aggressive when that child wasn't exactly how they wanted them to be - but the staff were nice - he was scared before going in that the staff would be in white coats and do weird experiments on him, which they did, but not that they were collecting the data on their experiments - the staff were nice and well meaning, but obviously somebody should have intervened and stopped them from drugging every one into oblivion</p>
<p>1:00:15</p>
<p>His relationships now with his parents is good, but its taken a chunk out his life - when Daryl told his Dad about PSSD, his father said he was worried this would happen - his Mom was upset to, she was lied to and told the meds were safe - but the doctors insist that there can't be any permanent harm once the meds are out of the system - there is no risk, 'there's nothing to lose' as they say</p>
<p>1:01:15</p>
<p>They try to convince any one in his life that Daryl is mad and its not real - and they tried to turn his family against him and not to believe him - so its obviously very upsetting to go through - when Daryl was going through withdrawal he was paranoid so it was difficult to speak to his Mom and Dad - and he missed out a lot of life with his siblings</p>
<p>1:02:15</p>
<p>Daryl feels like his OCD and Tourette's symptoms are part of him, and they are not always at their worse - so its not the worse thing in the world - Daryl has hunch, in listening to other parents, that vaccines as babies may be causing tics and stuff - but there is a lack of research on vaccinations as well</p>
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<p>Connect with Daryl Brown:</p>
<p>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/RunAgainstCastr'>@RunAgainstCastr</a></p>
<p>Daryl's blog: <a href='http://www.pssdblog.blogspot.com/'>PSSDblog</a></p>
<p>Daryl's <a href='http://www.runagainstcastration.wordpress.com/'>marathon campaign</a></p>
<p>Info about Post-SSRI Sexual Dysfunction: <a href='http://www.rxisk.org/'>Rxisk</a></p>
<p><a href='http://psychvictims.com/'>The Everyday Psych Victims Project</a> - Their <a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLKXkRFx-NLV8c-73IRmzrg'>YouTube</a> and <a href='https://twitter.com/PsychVictims'>Twitter</a></p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[We have all probably heard or read about how antidepressants can cause sexual dysfunction such as decreased libido, erectile dysfunction, decreased response to sexual stimuli, and delayed or absent orgasm. Given how widespread the use of antidepressants are, you may have personal experience with an antidepressant affecting your sexual function.
What you may not know is that research consistently finds that sexual dysfunction continues in the majority of people even after they stop taking the medication. This is known as Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction, or PSSD. 
Less frequently, another form of sexual dysfunction may continue to manifest even after discontinuation of the medication: Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder (PGAD). This is essentially the opposite of PSSD, with PGAD causing a relentless sense of arousal and discomfort in the genitals, but without any accompanying feeling of desire. 
So this is what can happen to adults. What happens when children are given antidepressants, right through their puberty? How does it affect their sexual function?
In this episode I interview Daryl Brown about his experience with the mental health care system when he started to be medicated with antidepressants when he was 9 years old - even though he wasn’t depressed - and medicated with antipsychotics, even though he wasn’t having psychosis.  Daryl shares how it has affected his sexual function, and by extension his sense of self and his intimate relationships.
Daryl asks the tough questions of the medical system: How could he, a mere child, have been given multiple medications - for over a decade - that provided no benefit, only harm? And how is that doctors continue to deny antidepressants can cause sexual dysfunction after they have been discontinued, in spite of research and patient reports confirming the harm?

SHOW NOTES
OCD and Tourette's syndrome
0:07:15
Daryl grew up in a suburb of London (United Kingdom) with 2 good parents, they are not together, but lucky to have them - a mix of nature and the city - 2 older siblings, 1 younger sibling
0:08:15
But missed a lot of family time due to mental health issues and hospitals - and his behaviour changed on the psychiatric drugs - and he went to special needs school far away - Daryl had some movement disorder and phobias since he was a baby
0:09:15
His brother noticed Daryl had strange movements as a baby and told others that Daryl had Tourette's Syndrome before he was diagnosed - Daryl got much sicker when he was about 9 years old, his OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder) and Tourette's got disabling worse
0:10:15
Daryl OCD caused him to spin around, and do repetitive rituals in a particular way - if it didn't feel like it went right, he would have to start the ritual over again - when it got really bad it was life consuming - he lost a lot of sleep worrying - a common feature
0:11:15
OCD symptoms was frustrating for Daryl, when it got out of control - Tourette's manifested has a lot of arm movements, leg movements, constantly parts of his body moving, even if people couldn't see what was happening with his toes and fingers, known has motor tics - Daryl also had a vocal tic of clearing his throat and making a weird noise
0:13:15
When Daryl's OCD and Tourette's got really bad, it was hard to live with the symptoms, but when mild they felt like a normal part of Daryl's life - for Daryl, only when its a the extremes does is it bothersome, and that may sound strange to some people - it doesn't interfere too much
0:14:15
Daryl remembers that his school was pushed around his phobias - other kids were yelled at, Daryl was yelled at when he coloured outside the lines - he was constantly being punished and he got scared at the way the other children were shouted at as well - they pushed him really hard about his phobias, and he tried really hard to break through and he did, but it was very hard - it all became very stressful and made everything a lot worse - at one point he ran away fr]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>Robin McGee: The Cancer Olympics - How 4 doctors missed Robin's cancer and how you can avoid the same fate</title>
        <itunes:title>Robin McGee: The Cancer Olympics - How 4 doctors missed Robin's cancer and how you can avoid the same fate</itunes:title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Clinical psychologist Robin McGee, author of The Cancer Olympics, had a family history of colorectal cancer, so when Robin started to see blood in her stool, she reported it to her doctor. That doctor dismissed her symptoms as a probable infection and didn’t bother to investigate potential cancer. </p>
<p>Robin’s bleeding got worse. A second doctor also thought it was from an infection. Robin also told this doctor about her family history of colorectal cancer. The doctor made a note in Robin’s health record, but did nothing about checking for cancer.</p>
<p>Robin’s bleeding worsened and she took it upon herself to get a cancer test - the results were sent to doctor #3. The results indicated Robin had cancer. The doctor wrote in Robin’s health record that he sent her for further testing. But in fact the doctor did nothing. </p>
<p>Robin’s bleeding worsened even more and now included dark red blood. A 4th doctor is not concerned and scheduled Robin for a colonoscopy many months later. It had been nearly 2 years since Robin first reported her symptoms to a doctor. The colonoscopy results indicate Robin had stage 4 colorectal cancer.</p>
<p>Four doctors should have caught Robin’s cancer earlier than stage 4. All 4 doctor’s have fatally failed Robin.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, as we’ll hear Robin report, this was not the end of serious medical errors she would encounter as she begins her fight with cancer - and her fight for justice.</p>
<p>  </p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Family history of colorectal cancer</p>
<p>0:07:00</p>
<p>Robin grew up in Ottawa, Canada as the 6th of 7 children - and now lives in Nova Scotia (Canada) - went to university and got her PhD in Clinical Psychology and practicing clinical psychologist for 30 years</p>
<p>0:08:00</p>
<p>Robin's mother had colorectal cancer - in 2008 Robin had some rectal bleeding and went to see Doctor #1, who was a locum for Robin's family doctor, Doctor #2 - Doctor #1 dismissed Robin's bleeding as perhaps C Difficile, a pretty serious infection, and sent Robin away to get tested for it</p>
<p>0:09:00</p>
<p>But the C Difficile test was cancelled because Robin didn't have a liquid stool, a prerequisite for C Difficile testing - the test results came back to Doctor #1 who did nothing - Robin's bleeding continued and she went to Doctor #2 but was bleeding heavier with skin sluffing - but Doctor #2 also dismissed the bleeding - Robin reminded the doctor of Robin's family history of colorectal cancer and the doctor made a note - she sent Robin for C Difficile test (again) and it was cancelled (again)</p>
<p>0:10:00</p>
<p>Doctor #2 sent a referral to a general surgeon, Doctor #4 (yes, #4), but her note didn't mention severity of Robin's symptoms, duration or family history - Doctor #2 was also closing her practice and Robin found a new family doctor, Doctor #3 - both # 2 and 3 knew Robin professionally</p>
<p>0:11:00</p>
<p>Robin arranged herself for a cancer test and it can back positive: Robin had cancer - that positive result went to Doctor #3 who did nothing - Robin went into to see Doctor #3 and reported greater symptoms and he said Robin needed an colonoscopy and would follow up</p>
<p>0:12:00</p>
<p>Robin felt relieved that a doctor was going to take her symptoms / cancer seriously - but Doctor #3 did nothing at all - he knew Robin was positive for cancer, but did nothing - but Doctor #3 wrote in the electronic health record that he had followed up with referrals</p>
<p>0:13:00</p>
<p>Robin waits for referrals but her symptoms are getting even worse, so she calls Doctor #3 and the office says 'not our problem, call doc #4' - Robin immediately calls #4 / surgeon and they say 'not our problem - there are no resources and there is an 18 month queue - you have to wait'</p>
<p>0:14:00</p>
<p>Meanwhile Robin's symptoms get worse, including dark red blood - and she continues to try to get a correct diagnosis - she tried 18 times - finally Robin gets into Doctor #4 - dark red blood is a sign of cancer, but the doctor says Robin is fine - Robin pushes for a colonoscopy and the doctor schedules one for many months later - Robin gets the scope and finds out she has Stage 4 cancer - according to Canadian guidelines, there should be no more than 8 weeks / 60 days from patient's first symptom report to diagnosis</p>
<p></p>
<p>Secretary triaging cancer patients</p>
<p>0:15:00</p>
<p>But Robin waited 661 days - subsequently, the provincial College of Physicians took a look at Robin's case and found other serious failures - and those doctors were disciplined by the College</p>
<p>0:16:00</p>
<p>Doctor #4's conduct was disturbing: had many, many years before had abdicated triaging of patients to her high school educated secretary - who decided patients under 50 don't get colorectal cancer and didn't schedule Robin for a colonoscopy0:17:00Initially they thought Robin's cancer was stage 3, 'curable' - it was a horrifying and devastating time with a 15 year old child at home - Robin had to drop everything and for the next 2 years suffered brutal cancer treatment, multiple surgeries, chemotherapy</p>
<p>0:18:00</p>
<p>The treatment worked, and Robin was in remission for 6 years and then the cancer returned - Robin experienced another serious medical error: the 2 cm cancer was missed by a radiologist and wasn't noticed until 6 months later when it was 9 cm - Robin had to endure more brutal treatments, more multiple surgeries, more chemotherapy - some of the surgeries had complications that required more surgeries - Robin has only been out of treatment for 6 months</p>
<p>0:19:00</p>
<p>Colorectal cancer is one of the most preventable if caught early - expert testimony confirmed that Robin would not have had to endure all the treatment, surgeries, chemotherapy if she had proper care and diagnosis initially - in the 7 years of medical malpractice lawsuit, the defence could not find one expert able or willing to defend the standard of care Robin received</p>
<p>0:20:00</p>
<p>It is unusual for Colleges of Physicians to find against their doctors, so the decision in Robin's case attests to the severity of negligence, it was 'indefensible'</p>
<p>0:21:00</p>
<p>The 4 doctors had made multiple efforts with Robin - these errors they'd done 1,000s of times, but because all 4 behaved irresponsibly collectively, the result was Robin with stage 4 cancer - Robin approached her medical error experience in 3 ways: complaint to College of Physicians and 3 of the 4 were disciplined</p>
<p>0:22:00</p>
<p>The lawsuit took 7 years - but with the radiology error, Robin decided on a 3rd approach: since it was in a hospital, she used the internal complaint process</p>
<p>0:23:00</p>
<p>There were also errors and challenges with that process - the 'apology practice' was kind of bungled - but in Robin worked with the province to change that policy - a positive remedy coming out of her complaint0:24:00"Error and apology practice" - hospital policy about responding to patient harm - there is legislation in Canada that a doctor's apology is not admissible in a court of law - Robin notes that a physician's apology has never been used against them in court</p>
<p></p>
<p>College of Physicians complaint experience</p>
<p>0:25:00</p>
<p>The complaint process with the College of Physicians and Surgeons was lacking - when Robin first contacted the College she said that she knew 2 of these doctors and considered them colleagues, and asked if they could all get in a room to discuss - Robin was very, very sick at this point with chemotherapy and radiation and at the brink of death a couple of times and needed to minimize her energy outlay</p>
<p>0:26:00</p>
<p>The College responded rudely, bruskly with a huge back in tone - Robin was ambivalent about making a complaint until that call - she realized this was the thin edge of the wedge of how medicine defends itself and shuts down people</p>
<p>0:27:00</p>
<p>Robin was inflamed by the call and decided to take her complaint as a result of how the College responded - the process was in favour of the doctors - psychologists are really good at documenting and created a binder for each doctor</p>
<p>0:28:00</p>
<p>Listed all the errors of each of her doctors with index and references and appendix and gave her 4 binders to the College - the physician gets to respond to Robin</p>
<p>0:29:00</p>
<p>The College said they would talk with her but she had to show up on X date, the same day Robin was to have surgery - the College response was "that's your problem, these doctors are busy"</p>
<p>0:30:00</p>
<p>Fortunately for Robin, another hospital bungle had her surgery date postponed - Robin did get to meet with just 2 people from panel of 7 that were to hear her complaint - but all of those 7 got to speak to all 4 physicians, but Robin the patient only got to speak to 2 - so not a patient friendly process - Robin feels strongly that any time a patient is harmed the hospital should speak to the patient as well as all of the investigation committee</p>
<p>0:31:00</p>
<p>They need to see the human face of the victim - the investigative panel of 7 is made of 6 physicians and the wife of a physician is the 7th, representing the 'public' - Robing says the College complaint can enforce a change in the doctors practice</p>
<p>0:32:00</p>
<p>The College sent Robin a letter saying 'this is what we said to Doctor x' - Robin is not sure if she received all the text of the letters sent to the doctors - they did force Doctor #4 to do her own surgical triage, and not her secretary - did they audit her to make sure she did that? Robin doesn't think so.</p>
<p>0:33:00</p>
<p>They identified a number of errors and factors with each doctor and instructed all doctors to make changes0:34:00Robin believes Doctors #1, 2 and 3 were conscientious physicians who would adhere to the Colleges instructions - Robin is less confident Doctor #4 changed her practice, but has since retired</p>
<p></p>
<p>Too young to get cancer?</p>
<p>0:35:00</p>
<p>Robin felt the remedies for the doctors was insufficient - Robin thinks all of them should have been sent for specific training on diagnosing colorectal cancer because each of them told the College that people under 50 don't get colorectal cancer - the College said, 'but she's got symptoms and family history, so....' - in the US the screening age has been lowered to 45 - no longer an old man's disease</p>
<p>0:36:00</p>
<p>Robin thinks they needed that training so they practiced correctly - but that wasn't a remedy the College applied</p>
<p>0:37:00</p>
<p>Robin found the College process, not destructive because she did a thorough job on preparing her documentation and relied on that knowledge to manage her emotion of fear they would not listen to her</p>
<p>0:38:00</p>
<p>Robin felt it was their obligation to protect the public, she could only do what she could do as a witness - but as the things got worse with the College, Robin was also dealing with vomiting, bring burned by chemo, and feeling horrible - but getting to the keyboard to work on her complaint was therapeutic and empowering - it also empowered her when she launched legal action with a team of lawyers</p>
<p>0:39:00</p>
<p>Medical malpractice is not for sissies - lawyers for physicians take a scorched earth policy, hire investigators to spy, they stoop to low levels to intimidate a patient - even though there was much pain and struggle in the lawsuit it was empowering - in the end her case was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum of money</p>
<p>0:40:00</p>
<p>But it was a 7 year process to get a settlement - the secret hope of physicians and their attorneys is that the patient will die so the case will die with them</p>
<p>0:41:00</p>
<p>Robin had to move to Toronto for 6 months to get cancer treatment and she had to pay those expenses - she had a lot of cost attached to care and she needed that money to survive</p>
<p>0:42:00</p>
<p>After Robin finally got a diagnosis, and after she found out all the doctors had failed her, and after her surgery, she found out that the best chemotherapy treatment for her type of cancer was not available in Nova Scotia, it was available in every other province, in the US, New Zealand, Australia, Europe, but not where Robin lived - Robin lobbied the govt to include that chemo treatment</p>
<p>0:43:00</p>
<p>The opposition party got involved and in the end she was successful in getting the province to include that chemo treatment, but it was too late for Robin to receive it - but since then over 1,000 Nova Scotians have had access to that treatment, no small feat - Robin's book, The Cancer Olympics, tells Robin's story</p>
<p>0:44:00</p>
<p>But it was a bitter sweet victory, as it was too late for Robin and that may be implicated in why her cancer re-occurred - Robin will die a martyr for her own cause</p>
<p></p>
<p>More medical with another cancer diagnosis</p>
<p>0:45:00</p>
<p>Robin first bout of cancer and treatment was 2 years long in 2010 - it came back in 2017, 6 months late due to radiologist error - Robin endured more horrible cancer treatment, lost her hair, her mouth turned into 1 big sore, horrific suffering - worse then any thing she'd ever experienced - she had 10 hour surgery to debulk the cancer and that had horrific complications causing more suffering, but had to wait 15 months for surgery in Toronto to correct complications</p>
<p>0:46:00</p>
<p>The surgery was March 2019 and she returned home June 1st - Robin's wisdom is for cancer patients to feel the feelings they are having</p>
<p>0:47:00</p>
<p>Instead of fighting those emotions and trying to supplant them with 'positive thoughts', she let her emotions come - don't give yourself the burden of not validating your own feelings</p>
<p>0:48:00</p>
<p>Taking on the medical establishment in multiple ways brought meaning to her life, when the establishment treated her like her life meant nothing - one doctor said to Robin 'you're in my margin of error'</p>
<p>0:49:00</p>
<p>Advocating has given her suffering and eventual death, meaning - while the complaints to the College and hospital are noble, they don't do anything for the patient - the lawsuit got Robin money that paid for her care (caused by medical errors)</p>
<p>0:50:00</p>
<p>Her family is deprived of Robin's income when she dies, and they are entitled to that - recently a mother of 3 with a terminally ill husband with a missed diagnosis, didn't want to sue and 'look greedy' - Robin explained that she was entitled to compensation to care for the kids</p>
<p>0:51:00</p>
<p>Many people fear launching a lawsuit against the Goliath medical industry - Robin encourages those with strong suits to move forward, it won't be as bad as they think - they have every right to pursue lost income</p>
<p>0:52:00</p>
<p>Some cases may be futile, but others will be worth it - in the US there is 'pain and suffering' compensation, but in Canada those amounts are capped at about $350k</p>
<p>0:53:00</p>
<p>After legal fees, Robin got about 60% of what she would have earned in income - that money is helping her survive today - and do some traveling with the time she has remaining</p>
<p>0:54:00</p>
<p>Robin would hear about medical errors from clients - she had a lot of medical admin bungling in the past and had learned to follow up on referrals herself - as many as 30% of fax referrals go missing - a 1 in 3 chance your referral never made it to the specialist</p>
<p>0:55:00Robin has one surgery postponed because the fax machine at the hospital ran out of ink, for days images sent to the hospital were unreadable</p>
<p></p>
<p>80-15-5 Rule</p>
<p>0:56:00</p>
<p>Robin goes for scans in the new year to see if the cancer cells have proliferated - eventually they will grow and kill her - her latest chemo usually gives about 48 more months of life, so she has about 2 years</p>
<p>0:57:00</p>
<p>Robin learned from another patient that it is good practice to demand that any of your imaging gets read by 2 radiologists - and Robin gets this done now</p>
<p>0:59:00</p>
<p>Lived experience is important for any profession to be better at their job - as a child psychologist, it is known that there is the '80-15-5 Rule' - meaning 80% of people are conscientious and follow the rules</p>
<p>1:00:00</p>
<p>15% of people are impaired, addictions, personal problems, distractions - 5% are rogues: stop signs and traffic lights are for other people - every profession has this, including the medical profession</p>
<p>1:01:00</p>
<p>The average person does not know if that there is a 1 in 5 chance of encountering incompetence and potential harm, a 20% chance</p>
<p>1:02:00</p>
<p>Robin's physician clients were in the 80% of conscientious people and she remembers them respectively - but her nursing clients were more likely to tell Robin about medical errors and how they couldn't report it because they'd lose their job</p>
<p>1:03:00</p>
<p>Whistleblowers are brave, and vulnerable people in this backlash culture - due to all the medical errors, Robin had to find a new family doctor - she learned that other doctors in the community were against him for taking on Robin</p>
<p>1:04:00</p>
<p>Robin's book, The Cancer Olympics, is well researched, 'no stone unturned' - sometimes she wonders if the doctors that were against her new family doctor read her book and realized that Robin really was harmed repeatedly and their colleagues did screw up</p>
<p></p>
<p>Lawyers, lies and lawsuits</p>
<p>1:05:00</p>
<p>Robin has had a number of people in the medical profession contact her after the book was published - some of them were supportive and confirmatory - some doctors do take patient stories and use them to improve their profession, but other doctors just don't want to hear - you can't make a purse out of a sows ear</p>
<p>1:06:00</p>
<p>One of the doctors in her case, a colleague she'd known for years, they'd been at many meetings, testified under oath that he didn't know Robin</p>
<p>1:07:00</p>
<p>After the lawsuit, Robin thought 'he'll never forget my name for as long as he lives' - lawsuits seem to bring out the worse in people - but the lawsuit exposed some horrible practices</p>
<p>1:08:00</p>
<p><a href='http://www.thecancerolympics.com/'>The Cancer Olympics</a> is available on iTunes, Amazon, Indigo - also available on Audible in audio</p>
<p>1:09:00</p>
<p>Robin has become super active in patient advocacy - setting standards of care for physicians and colorectal cancer - now with <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a> Robin is doing presentations and advocacy work, and recently spoke with the Nova Scotia Minister of Health</p>
<p>1:10:00</p>
<p>The asked the Minister to ensure that patients harmed by medical care, should get a copy of the investigative report in writing, and a patient on the investigative committee</p>
<p>1:11:00</p>
<p>Robin is doing a little bit of her psychology work, but has another surgery in the new year - Robin doesn't have a ton of time left to live, but is committed to fighting cancer and her intent is to help patients broadly and cancer patients specifically, and all harm to patients, for as long as she can, until the end.</p>
<p>1:12:00People have asked if Robin will write a sequel - she does have a blog, The Cancer Olympics were she describes her cancer experience in classic rock and roll songs</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinical psychologist Robin McGee, author of <em>The Cancer Olympics</em>, had a family history of colorectal cancer, so when Robin started to see blood in her stool, she reported it to her doctor. That doctor dismissed her symptoms as a probable infection and didn’t bother to investigate potential cancer. </p>
<p>Robin’s bleeding got worse. A second doctor also thought it was from an infection. Robin also told this doctor about her family history of colorectal cancer. The doctor made a note in Robin’s health record, but did nothing about checking for cancer.</p>
<p>Robin’s bleeding worsened and she took it upon herself to get a cancer test - the results were sent to doctor #3. The results indicated Robin had cancer. The doctor wrote in Robin’s health record that he sent her for further testing. But in fact the doctor did nothing. </p>
<p>Robin’s bleeding worsened even more and now included dark red blood. A 4th doctor is not concerned and scheduled Robin for a colonoscopy many months later. It had been nearly 2 years since Robin first reported her symptoms to a doctor. The colonoscopy results indicate Robin had stage 4 colorectal cancer.</p>
<p>Four doctors should have caught Robin’s cancer earlier than stage 4. All 4 doctor’s have fatally failed Robin.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, as we’ll hear Robin report, this was not the end of serious medical errors she would encounter as she begins her fight with cancer - and her fight for justice.</p>
<p>  </p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Family history of colorectal cancer</p>
<p>0:07:00</p>
<p>Robin grew up in Ottawa, Canada as the 6th of 7 children - and now lives in Nova Scotia (Canada) - went to university and got her PhD in Clinical Psychology and practicing clinical psychologist for 30 years</p>
<p>0:08:00</p>
<p>Robin's mother had colorectal cancer - in 2008 Robin had some rectal bleeding and went to see Doctor #1, who was a locum for Robin's family doctor, Doctor #2 - Doctor #1 dismissed Robin's bleeding as perhaps C Difficile, a pretty serious infection, and sent Robin away to get tested for it</p>
<p>0:09:00</p>
<p>But the C Difficile test was cancelled because Robin didn't have a liquid stool, a prerequisite for C Difficile testing - the test results came back to Doctor #1 who did nothing - Robin's bleeding continued and she went to Doctor #2 but was bleeding heavier with skin sluffing - but Doctor #2 also dismissed the bleeding - Robin reminded the doctor of Robin's family history of colorectal cancer and the doctor made a note - she sent Robin for C Difficile test (again) and it was cancelled (again)</p>
<p>0:10:00</p>
<p>Doctor #2 sent a referral to a general surgeon, Doctor #4 (yes, #4), but her note didn't mention severity of Robin's symptoms, duration or family history - Doctor #2 was also closing her practice and Robin found a new family doctor, Doctor #3 - both # 2 and 3 knew Robin professionally</p>
<p>0:11:00</p>
<p>Robin arranged herself for a cancer test and it can back positive: Robin had cancer - that positive result went to Doctor #3 who did nothing - Robin went into to see Doctor #3 and reported greater symptoms and he said Robin needed an colonoscopy and would follow up</p>
<p>0:12:00</p>
<p>Robin felt relieved that a doctor was going to take her symptoms / cancer seriously - but Doctor #3 did nothing at all - he knew Robin was positive for cancer, but did nothing - but Doctor #3 wrote in the electronic health record that he had followed up with referrals</p>
<p>0:13:00</p>
<p>Robin waits for referrals but her symptoms are getting even worse, so she calls Doctor #3 and the office says 'not our problem, call doc #4' - Robin immediately calls #4 / surgeon and they say 'not our problem - there are no resources and there is an 18 month queue - you have to wait'</p>
<p>0:14:00</p>
<p>Meanwhile Robin's symptoms get worse, including dark red blood - and she continues to try to get a correct diagnosis - she tried 18 times - finally Robin gets into Doctor #4 - dark red blood is a sign of cancer, but the doctor says Robin is fine - Robin pushes for a colonoscopy and the doctor schedules one for many months later - Robin gets the scope and finds out she has Stage 4 cancer - according to Canadian guidelines, there should be no more than 8 weeks / 60 days from patient's first symptom report to diagnosis</p>
<p></p>
<p>Secretary triaging cancer patients</p>
<p>0:15:00</p>
<p>But Robin waited 661 days - subsequently, the provincial College of Physicians took a look at Robin's case and found other serious failures - and those doctors were disciplined by the College</p>
<p>0:16:00</p>
<p>Doctor #4's conduct was disturbing: had many, many years before had abdicated triaging of patients to her high school educated secretary - who decided patients under 50 don't get colorectal cancer and didn't schedule Robin for a colonoscopy0:17:00Initially they thought Robin's cancer was stage 3, 'curable' - it was a horrifying and devastating time with a 15 year old child at home - Robin had to drop everything and for the next 2 years suffered brutal cancer treatment, multiple surgeries, chemotherapy</p>
<p>0:18:00</p>
<p>The treatment worked, and Robin was in remission for 6 years and then the cancer returned - Robin experienced another serious medical error: the 2 cm cancer was missed by a radiologist and wasn't noticed until 6 months later when it was 9 cm - Robin had to endure more brutal treatments, more multiple surgeries, more chemotherapy - some of the surgeries had complications that required more surgeries - Robin has only been out of treatment for 6 months</p>
<p>0:19:00</p>
<p>Colorectal cancer is one of the most preventable if caught early - expert testimony confirmed that Robin would not have had to endure all the treatment, surgeries, chemotherapy if she had proper care and diagnosis initially - in the 7 years of medical malpractice lawsuit, the defence could not find one expert able or willing to defend the standard of care Robin received</p>
<p>0:20:00</p>
<p>It is unusual for Colleges of Physicians to find against their doctors, so the decision in Robin's case attests to the severity of negligence, it was 'indefensible'</p>
<p>0:21:00</p>
<p>The 4 doctors had made multiple efforts with Robin - these errors they'd done 1,000s of times, but because all 4 behaved irresponsibly collectively, the result was Robin with stage 4 cancer - Robin approached her medical error experience in 3 ways: complaint to College of Physicians and 3 of the 4 were disciplined</p>
<p>0:22:00</p>
<p>The lawsuit took 7 years - but with the radiology error, Robin decided on a 3rd approach: since it was in a hospital, she used the internal complaint process</p>
<p>0:23:00</p>
<p>There were also errors and challenges with that process - the 'apology practice' was kind of bungled - but in Robin worked with the province to change that policy - a positive remedy coming out of her complaint0:24:00"Error and apology practice" - hospital policy about responding to patient harm - there is legislation in Canada that a doctor's apology is not admissible in a court of law - Robin notes that a physician's apology has never been used against them in court</p>
<p></p>
<p>College of Physicians complaint experience</p>
<p>0:25:00</p>
<p>The complaint process with the College of Physicians and Surgeons was lacking - when Robin first contacted the College she said that she knew 2 of these doctors and considered them colleagues, and asked if they could all get in a room to discuss - Robin was very, very sick at this point with chemotherapy and radiation and at the brink of death a couple of times and needed to minimize her energy outlay</p>
<p>0:26:00</p>
<p>The College responded rudely, bruskly with a huge back in tone - Robin was ambivalent about making a complaint until that call - she realized this was the thin edge of the wedge of how medicine defends itself and shuts down people</p>
<p>0:27:00</p>
<p>Robin was inflamed by the call and decided to take her complaint as a result of how the College responded - the process was in favour of the doctors - psychologists are really good at documenting and created a binder for each doctor</p>
<p>0:28:00</p>
<p>Listed all the errors of each of her doctors with index and references and appendix and gave her 4 binders to the College - the physician gets to respond to Robin</p>
<p>0:29:00</p>
<p>The College said they would talk with her but she had to show up on X date, the same day Robin was to have surgery - the College response was "that's your problem, these doctors are busy"</p>
<p>0:30:00</p>
<p>Fortunately for Robin, another hospital bungle had her surgery date postponed - Robin did get to meet with just 2 people from panel of 7 that were to hear her complaint - but all of those 7 got to speak to all 4 physicians, but Robin the patient only got to speak to 2 - so not a patient friendly process - Robin feels strongly that any time a patient is harmed the hospital should speak to the patient as well as all of the investigation committee</p>
<p>0:31:00</p>
<p>They need to see the human face of the victim - the investigative panel of 7 is made of 6 physicians and the wife of a physician is the 7th, representing the 'public' - Robing says the College complaint can enforce a change in the doctors practice</p>
<p>0:32:00</p>
<p>The College sent Robin a letter saying 'this is what we said to Doctor x' - Robin is not sure if she received all the text of the letters sent to the doctors - they did force Doctor #4 to do her own surgical triage, and not her secretary - did they audit her to make sure she did that? Robin doesn't think so.</p>
<p>0:33:00</p>
<p>They identified a number of errors and factors with each doctor and instructed all doctors to make changes0:34:00Robin believes Doctors #1, 2 and 3 were conscientious physicians who would adhere to the Colleges instructions - Robin is less confident Doctor #4 changed her practice, but has since retired</p>
<p></p>
<p>Too young to get cancer?</p>
<p>0:35:00</p>
<p>Robin felt the remedies for the doctors was insufficient - Robin thinks all of them should have been sent for specific training on diagnosing colorectal cancer because each of them told the College that people under 50 don't get colorectal cancer - the College said, 'but she's got symptoms and family history, so....' - in the US the screening age has been lowered to 45 - no longer an old man's disease</p>
<p>0:36:00</p>
<p>Robin thinks they needed that training so they practiced correctly - but that wasn't a remedy the College applied</p>
<p>0:37:00</p>
<p>Robin found the College process, not destructive because she did a thorough job on preparing her documentation and relied on that knowledge to manage her emotion of fear they would not listen to her</p>
<p>0:38:00</p>
<p>Robin felt it was their obligation to protect the public, she could only do what she could do as a witness - but as the things got worse with the College, Robin was also dealing with vomiting, bring burned by chemo, and feeling horrible - but getting to the keyboard to work on her complaint was therapeutic and empowering - it also empowered her when she launched legal action with a team of lawyers</p>
<p>0:39:00</p>
<p>Medical malpractice is not for sissies - lawyers for physicians take a scorched earth policy, hire investigators to spy, they stoop to low levels to intimidate a patient - even though there was much pain and struggle in the lawsuit it was empowering - in the end her case was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum of money</p>
<p>0:40:00</p>
<p>But it was a 7 year process to get a settlement - the secret hope of physicians and their attorneys is that the patient will die so the case will die with them</p>
<p>0:41:00</p>
<p>Robin had to move to Toronto for 6 months to get cancer treatment and she had to pay those expenses - she had a lot of cost attached to care and she needed that money to survive</p>
<p>0:42:00</p>
<p>After Robin finally got a diagnosis, and after she found out all the doctors had failed her, and after her surgery, she found out that the best chemotherapy treatment for her type of cancer was not available in Nova Scotia, it was available in every other province, in the US, New Zealand, Australia, Europe, but not where Robin lived - Robin lobbied the govt to include that chemo treatment</p>
<p>0:43:00</p>
<p>The opposition party got involved and in the end she was successful in getting the province to include that chemo treatment, but it was too late for Robin to receive it - but since then over 1,000 Nova Scotians have had access to that treatment, no small feat - Robin's book, The Cancer Olympics, tells Robin's story</p>
<p>0:44:00</p>
<p>But it was a bitter sweet victory, as it was too late for Robin and that may be implicated in why her cancer re-occurred - Robin will die a martyr for her own cause</p>
<p></p>
<p>More medical with another cancer diagnosis</p>
<p>0:45:00</p>
<p>Robin first bout of cancer and treatment was 2 years long in 2010 - it came back in 2017, 6 months late due to radiologist error - Robin endured more horrible cancer treatment, lost her hair, her mouth turned into 1 big sore, horrific suffering - worse then any thing she'd ever experienced - she had 10 hour surgery to debulk the cancer and that had horrific complications causing more suffering, but had to wait 15 months for surgery in Toronto to correct complications</p>
<p>0:46:00</p>
<p>The surgery was March 2019 and she returned home June 1st - Robin's wisdom is for cancer patients to feel the feelings they are having</p>
<p>0:47:00</p>
<p>Instead of fighting those emotions and trying to supplant them with 'positive thoughts', she let her emotions come - don't give yourself the burden of not validating your own feelings</p>
<p>0:48:00</p>
<p>Taking on the medical establishment in multiple ways brought meaning to her life, when the establishment treated her like her life meant nothing - one doctor said to Robin 'you're in my margin of error'</p>
<p>0:49:00</p>
<p>Advocating has given her suffering and eventual death, meaning - while the complaints to the College and hospital are noble, they don't do anything for the patient - the lawsuit got Robin money that paid for her care (caused by medical errors)</p>
<p>0:50:00</p>
<p>Her family is deprived of Robin's income when she dies, and they are entitled to that - recently a mother of 3 with a terminally ill husband with a missed diagnosis, didn't want to sue and 'look greedy' - Robin explained that she was entitled to compensation to care for the kids</p>
<p>0:51:00</p>
<p>Many people fear launching a lawsuit against the Goliath medical industry - Robin encourages those with strong suits to move forward, it won't be as bad as they think - they have every right to pursue lost income</p>
<p>0:52:00</p>
<p>Some cases may be futile, but others will be worth it - in the US there is 'pain and suffering' compensation, but in Canada those amounts are capped at about $350k</p>
<p>0:53:00</p>
<p>After legal fees, Robin got about 60% of what she would have earned in income - that money is helping her survive today - and do some traveling with the time she has remaining</p>
<p>0:54:00</p>
<p>Robin would hear about medical errors from clients - she had a lot of medical admin bungling in the past and had learned to follow up on referrals herself - as many as 30% of fax referrals go missing - a 1 in 3 chance your referral never made it to the specialist</p>
<p>0:55:00Robin has one surgery postponed because the fax machine at the hospital ran out of ink, for days images sent to the hospital were unreadable</p>
<p></p>
<p>80-15-5 Rule</p>
<p>0:56:00</p>
<p>Robin goes for scans in the new year to see if the cancer cells have proliferated - eventually they will grow and kill her - her latest chemo usually gives about 48 more months of life, so she has about 2 years</p>
<p>0:57:00</p>
<p>Robin learned from another patient that it is good practice to demand that any of your imaging gets read by 2 radiologists - and Robin gets this done now</p>
<p>0:59:00</p>
<p>Lived experience is important for any profession to be better at their job - as a child psychologist, it is known that there is the '80-15-5 Rule' - meaning 80% of people are conscientious and follow the rules</p>
<p>1:00:00</p>
<p>15% of people are impaired, addictions, personal problems, distractions - 5% are rogues: stop signs and traffic lights are for other people - every profession has this, including the medical profession</p>
<p>1:01:00</p>
<p>The average person does not know if that there is a 1 in 5 chance of encountering incompetence and potential harm, a 20% chance</p>
<p>1:02:00</p>
<p>Robin's physician clients were in the 80% of conscientious people and she remembers them respectively - but her nursing clients were more likely to tell Robin about medical errors and how they couldn't report it because they'd lose their job</p>
<p>1:03:00</p>
<p>Whistleblowers are brave, and vulnerable people in this backlash culture - due to all the medical errors, Robin had to find a new family doctor - she learned that other doctors in the community were against him for taking on Robin</p>
<p>1:04:00</p>
<p>Robin's book, The Cancer Olympics, is well researched, 'no stone unturned' - sometimes she wonders if the doctors that were against her new family doctor read her book and realized that Robin really was harmed repeatedly and their colleagues did screw up</p>
<p></p>
<p>Lawyers, lies and lawsuits</p>
<p>1:05:00</p>
<p>Robin has had a number of people in the medical profession contact her after the book was published - some of them were supportive and confirmatory - some doctors do take patient stories and use them to improve their profession, but other doctors just don't want to hear - you can't make a purse out of a sows ear</p>
<p>1:06:00</p>
<p>One of the doctors in her case, a colleague she'd known for years, they'd been at many meetings, testified under oath that he didn't know Robin</p>
<p>1:07:00</p>
<p>After the lawsuit, Robin thought 'he'll never forget my name for as long as he lives' - lawsuits seem to bring out the worse in people - but the lawsuit exposed some horrible practices</p>
<p>1:08:00</p>
<p><a href='http://www.thecancerolympics.com/'>The Cancer Olympics</a> is available on iTunes, Amazon, Indigo - also available on Audible in audio</p>
<p>1:09:00</p>
<p>Robin has become super active in patient advocacy - setting standards of care for physicians and colorectal cancer - now with <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a> Robin is doing presentations and advocacy work, and recently spoke with the Nova Scotia Minister of Health</p>
<p>1:10:00</p>
<p>The asked the Minister to ensure that patients harmed by medical care, should get a copy of the investigative report in writing, and a patient on the investigative committee</p>
<p>1:11:00</p>
<p>Robin is doing a little bit of her psychology work, but has another surgery in the new year - Robin doesn't have a ton of time left to live, but is committed to fighting cancer and her intent is to help patients broadly and cancer patients specifically, and all harm to patients, for as long as she can, until the end.</p>
<p>1:12:00People have asked if Robin will write a sequel - she does have a blog, The Cancer Olympics were she describes her cancer experience in classic rock and roll songs</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Clinical psychologist Robin McGee, author of The Cancer Olympics, had a family history of colorectal cancer, so when Robin started to see blood in her stool, she reported it to her doctor. That doctor dismissed her symptoms as a probable infection and didn’t bother to investigate potential cancer. 
Robin’s bleeding got worse. A second doctor also thought it was from an infection. Robin also told this doctor about her family history of colorectal cancer. The doctor made a note in Robin’s health record, but did nothing about checking for cancer.
Robin’s bleeding worsened and she took it upon herself to get a cancer test - the results were sent to doctor #3. The results indicated Robin had cancer. The doctor wrote in Robin’s health record that he sent her for further testing. But in fact the doctor did nothing. 
Robin’s bleeding worsened even more and now included dark red blood. A 4th doctor is not concerned and scheduled Robin for a colonoscopy many months later. It had been nearly 2 years since Robin first reported her symptoms to a doctor. The colonoscopy results indicate Robin had stage 4 colorectal cancer.
Four doctors should have caught Robin’s cancer earlier than stage 4. All 4 doctor’s have fatally failed Robin.
Unfortunately, as we’ll hear Robin report, this was not the end of serious medical errors she would encounter as she begins her fight with cancer - and her fight for justice.
  
SHOW NOTES
Family history of colorectal cancer
0:07:00
Robin grew up in Ottawa, Canada as the 6th of 7 children - and now lives in Nova Scotia (Canada) - went to university and got her PhD in Clinical Psychology and practicing clinical psychologist for 30 years
0:08:00
Robin's mother had colorectal cancer - in 2008 Robin had some rectal bleeding and went to see Doctor #1, who was a locum for Robin's family doctor, Doctor #2 - Doctor #1 dismissed Robin's bleeding as perhaps C Difficile, a pretty serious infection, and sent Robin away to get tested for it
0:09:00
But the C Difficile test was cancelled because Robin didn't have a liquid stool, a prerequisite for C Difficile testing - the test results came back to Doctor #1 who did nothing - Robin's bleeding continued and she went to Doctor #2 but was bleeding heavier with skin sluffing - but Doctor #2 also dismissed the bleeding - Robin reminded the doctor of Robin's family history of colorectal cancer and the doctor made a note - she sent Robin for C Difficile test (again) and it was cancelled (again)
0:10:00
Doctor #2 sent a referral to a general surgeon, Doctor #4 (yes, #4), but her note didn't mention severity of Robin's symptoms, duration or family history - Doctor #2 was also closing her practice and Robin found a new family doctor, Doctor #3 - both # 2 and 3 knew Robin professionally
0:11:00
Robin arranged herself for a cancer test and it can back positive: Robin had cancer - that positive result went to Doctor #3 who did nothing - Robin went into to see Doctor #3 and reported greater symptoms and he said Robin needed an colonoscopy and would follow up
0:12:00
Robin felt relieved that a doctor was going to take her symptoms / cancer seriously - but Doctor #3 did nothing at all - he knew Robin was positive for cancer, but did nothing - but Doctor #3 wrote in the electronic health record that he had followed up with referrals
0:13:00
Robin waits for referrals but her symptoms are getting even worse, so she calls Doctor #3 and the office says 'not our problem, call doc #4' - Robin immediately calls #4 / surgeon and they say 'not our problem - there are no resources and there is an 18 month queue - you have to wait'
0:14:00
Meanwhile Robin's symptoms get worse, including dark red blood - and she continues to try to get a correct diagnosis - she tried 18 times - finally Robin gets into Doctor #4 - dark red blood is a sign of cancer, but the doctor says Robin is fine - Robin pushes for a colonoscopy and the doctor schedules one for many months later - Robin gets the scope and fi]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>Michael Zuk, DDS: Confessions of a Former Cosmetic Dentist</title>
        <itunes:title>Michael Zuk, DDS: Confessions of a Former Cosmetic Dentist</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/e/michael-zuk-dds-confessions-of-a-former-cosmetic-dentist/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2019 04:20:00 -0500</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dentist Michael Zuk, author of “Confessions of a Former Cosmetic Dentist”, is a whistleblower about the dangers of some dental procedures being pushed by corporate entities that are prioritizing profits over patient safety.</p>
<p>There are a lot of continuing education programs for dentists, but there is also a hidden element where corporate interests will train dentists to benefit the corporation, and that can cause serious harm to patients.</p>
<p>Most dental seminars have an underlying corporate interest or group that is benefitting - and the dental associations have not weeded out the courses that offer voodoo science and procedures that are unnecessary - some of the procedures are so new they haven't been tested on people.</p>
<p>Dentists can take a weekend course and start practicing that procedure on Monday morning - with patients as guinea pigs. Dental authorities have known for decades about these dangerous procedures but have been unable to make a dent in stopping them because the underlying problem of making money is influencing the treatment dentists recommend to patients.</p>
<p>Michael’s "<a href='http://www.confessionsofaformercosmeticdentist.com/'>Confessions of a Former Cosmetic Former Dentist</a>" book caused a big pushback from his dental authority. Michael’s book has been banned by the Alberta Dental Association and College and forced him to take it off the market because they felt (ironically) it was harming the integrity of the profession. The topic of the book was over treatment by cosmetic dentists and the reasons why, and it is still available on the <a href='https://www.amazon.ca/Confessions-Former-Cosmetic-Dentist-Michael/dp/0615370837'>after-market</a>.</p>
<p>Forcing Michael to pull his book from the market is a prime example of how the dental association is involved in a cover up of harmful dental practices and don't want the public to know about needless procedures that can cause permanent damage.</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Like father, like son</p>

0:07:15


Michael grew up in Spirit River, Alberta - north of Grand Prairie - population 1,000 - Michael's father was minister, who also got into politics and became Mayor - and got into trouble mixing politics and religion, and Michael is following those footsteps and causing trouble himself - Michael's father was sued and forced off council for bringing attention to conflicts of interest


0:08:15


Some of those people were also in his congregation, so he was forced out as a preacher too - they tried to force him out of town, so he bounced around different jobs, like a cook - but others would get him fired - his congregation was told that they wouldn't get the sale price at the local grocery store


0:09:15


Michael did 1 year of college, 2 years of pre-dental study in Edmonton, then 4 years of dental school - graduated and opened his practice in Red Deer, Alberta in 1987 with a fellow student and they've been practicing dentistry ever since - Michael was good in science, on the quiet side, and enjoyed art, and these lead him to the dental profession


0:11:15


Molding and designing smiles requires artistic ability, blending with science - but this has also created problematic grey zones - initially in his practice, he was learning the hard way of what worked and didn't - later Michael learned there were a lot of continuing education programs, but also another side where corporate interests will train you to benefit the sponsor, and that can cause serious harm to patients


0:13:15


Most dental seminars have an underlying corporate interest or group that is benefitting - and the dental associations have not weeded out the courses that offer voodoo science and procedures that are unnecessary - some of the procedures are so new they haven't been tested on people


0:14:15


Patients become the guinea pigs - dentists can take a weekend course and start practicing that procedure on Monday morning - or dentists order 1,000s of dollars of products and equipment after being sold by amazing presentations


0:15:15


Some courses are just slight modifications to existing practice, but some seminars are organized similar to 'condo sales' where they try to get dentists as life long clients, or hook them into more seminars - the focus should be on quality of courses using standard of care, or using voodoo science - in some cases, dental authorities have known for decades about these dangerous procedures but have been unable to make a dent in stopping them


0:17:15


Because dentistry is a blend of art and science, there is no one right way to do dentistry - for example, orthodontists don't agree on what defines 'straight teeth', so each approach may have slight differences - so there are many different approaches - each dental authority will have representatives from each school of thought, and by corporate interests that can make changes to regulation
 

 
Corporate seminars
 


0:19:15


Most of the time dentists are paying 100s or 1000s of dollars for courses - some may promote an approach that favours their corporate sponsor, but doesn't meet the standard of care


0:20:15


Early in the 90s, Michael thought cosmetic surgery would be his practice, with porcelain veneers and porcelain crowns and did a number of courses, but the treatment they were talking about was aggressive - for example, drill healthy but crooked teeth and cover them with porcelain so they look straight - this often also required root canals due to the drilling


0:21:15


To Michael, that was an obscene and inappropriate and conflicted with his approach to drill as little as possible, but most courses promoted drilling to put in crowns - the underlying problem of making money, influenced the treatment dentists recommended


0:22:15


Michael learned the courses could not be trusted to teach what was appropriate - and if there was a problem, the corporates wouldn't come to defend the dentist - so Michael didn't trust the courses, or the equipment they were pushing, and doesn't provide the benefits they advertise, and that is an embarrassment to the profession


0:23:15


There are dental device certification programs but they are not very stringent - and the studies cited are not of good quality and are cherry picked to support claims - under scrutiny, many of these seminars would not be producing benefits they are promoting


0:24:15


There is a quiet movement within the profession to push back against these corporate seminars - orthodontic companies have been known to lie and exaggerate benefits of their products - even though studies may show a product does not work, it will still be sold at industry trade shows - not every dentist is aware of these issues and can take years to pull them off the market


0:26:15


Michael wrote a book, "<a href='http://www.confessionsofaformercosmeticdentist.com/'>Confessions of a Cosmetic Dentist</a>", but it has been banned by the Alberta Dental Association and College forced him to take it off the market because it was harming the integrity of the profession - the topic of the book was over treatment by cosmetic dentists and the reasons why - the Alberta Dental Association considers themselves the global work police


0:27:15


They even took a look at seminars Michael had given in Florida as the 'uncosmetic dentist' to encourage them to do more orthodontic and less veneers and have tried to make Michael look bad - his book being pulled is an example of how the dental association is involved in a cover up and don't want the public to know what is going on


0:28:15


Michael's book is still available in the after-market - he had sent a copy to <a href='https://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/m_episodes/2012-2013/money-where-your-mouth-is'>CBC's Marketplace</a> tv program, Your Money is Where Your Mouth Is, where they went undercover - a 15 year girl came to Michael and had been told she needed all of her teeth capped and crowned for sensitivity, and that would have required drilling down to stumps and she would have been irreversible harmed for life
 

 
Motivated by money
 


0:29:15


Her gum sensitivity went away in a couple of weeks of using Sensodyne toothpaste - over treatment is unbelievable - they are motivated by money, but to Michael it is more about being mislead by these seminars where they think they've been trained properly on legitimate procedures


0:30:15


These dentists are like terrorist bombers that have been convinced to give up their life for a cause, and most of these dentists truly believe what they are doing is correct - for example, in dental college, they are taught to refer full mouth reconstructions to o prostodontists, but the seminar will convince the dentist they have the skills - and patients are losing their teeth prematurely because they listened to their dentist


0:31:15


Scary to think they are wiping out the patient's life savings and dooming them to a life time of replacement teeth - in these cases patients are losing their teeth


0:32:15


Michael says it was a mistake by the dental authority to have his book removed from sales, because a few years before they sent out an article titled "I have had enough" about the problem with continuing education courses and over treatment on unsuspecting patients and said cosmetic surgery had turned into a monster


0:33:15


It was clear the Alberta Dental Authority sent it out to scare dentists about over treating - but on the back of the newsletter for 20 years was the company that had been selling these seminars and getting awards from the Alberta Dental Association and College - and given the "Friend of Dentistry" award from the Canadian Dental Association - but promoting very irresponsible and getting the highest award


0:34:15


The Alberta Dental Authority (ADA) was paid every month to advertise these seminars and giving credits for these seminar courses - and then flying Alberta patients to Las Vegas for treatment where they do not have licensed or malpractice insurance


0:35:15


Michael has reported this practice to the ADA but has had no response - they did not want to embarrass their friend - when patients did complain, they were given the cold shoulder - one of Michael's dental assistants was flown to Las Vegas by another dentist and to this day will tear up because her teeth were drilled down to stubs but were only a little crooked


0:36:15S


he needed root canals and now they ache and she got no help from the ADA - Michael believes in the next few years more patients will know of this and raise hell - this is a global problem, these seminars reach dentists all over the world, and dental victims all over the world


0:37:15


Recently the Ontario Dental College has said that neuromuscular dentistry is not approved for full mouth reconstruction or headache treatment - 'neuromuscular dentistry' electronic pulses of the jaw muscles to find the 'perfect' bite - when Michael was in dental school, one the gurus of this approach taught at Micheal's school, and he saw first hand how it was done, and now it has been twisted so they have an excuse to use a full mouth crampons
 

 
Dental associations turning blind eye
 


0:38:15


ODC would not have come to this decision lightly - Manitoba has joined - now these 'neuromuscular' dentists are calling themselves 'physiologic' dentists - they just changed the terminology, the procedures are the same - but the dental associations are not moving fast enough


0:39:15


Michael took it upon himself to notify all the Canadian provincial and most US state dental boards about this important statement of the ODC - he's had some responses - Nevada dental board is being torn apart by the Governor because a victim is standing up to the corruption within it - Nevada and Alberta dental boards are joined at the hip to promote this 'treatment'


0:40:15


Patients are not getting represented in this problem, dental associations are turning a blind eye - an example, a patient was mislead about a sketchy procedure and harmed and complained to the ADA who decided to make an example out of the dentist, but failed to mention the procedure that caused the harm - the ADA spent upwards of $1 million in legal fees going after this 1 dentist


0:42:15


The patient got $11,000, so something wrong with the system - the lawyers don't want to change it, they're making a lot of money - if a harmed patient comes to a lawyer, they will not take the case involving dental harm


0:44:15


ADA doesn't know what its doing - having non-dentist answering questions - saying there is no recognized treatment for TMJ so anything goes - blaming Health Canada and any one else but themselves - if they offer the patient a settlement, it is a fraction of the cost of the long term harm - it is like if you received cancer chemo for the common cold and ended up with liver damage - this is the fear with over treatment


0:45:15C


urrently there are 2 members on the ADA council who've been trained in this discredited approach - 1 has spoken out against it, but another 1 has flown patients to Las Vegas


0:46:15


Talk to a few more victims, it is terrifying - Michael spoke to a malpractice lawyer in San Francisco who became a victim and she sued the dentist, so it can happen to any body


0:47:15


A lot of these dentists are dedicated to education, unfortunately they've dedicated themselves to the wrong seminars - they can use all kinds of dental technical terminology, unfortunately it is based on an incorrect science - partly motivated by money and by respect of their mentors - and they don't want to admit they've made a mistake, it is embarrassing


0:48:15


Probably most dentists would agree that if they looked at the recommendations of some of these dentists, they would disagree - and they would talk about it privately, but to talk publicly, like with you, risks being alienated - even if they agree with Michael, they don't like that he talks about it publicly because it tarnishes every one
 

 
Sued for $9 million
 


0:49:15


Currently the same dental lab is promoting some of their dentists as TMJ experts in magazines that go to the public - a dental lab would wait for the dentist to refer to create crowns for the patient - now they're trying to promote dentists who use their systems to the public - but dental authorities have no control over dental labs, can't pull their license


0:50:15


The most that will happen is the lab will get a letter - but this has been going on for over 20 years and all the top people are making millions of dollars and it has to be exposed, it is insane - the ADA launched a multiple prong attack against Michael


0:51:15


The ADA is trying to discipline Michael for his advertising - orthodontists straighten teeth - many ways to make a smile better - but it is insane to over drill, and that is not Michael's approach and that stepped on the toes of traditional orthodontists


0:52:15


Michael's approach is common in the UK and is proud of it - at a hearing, there were 17 binders of advertising complaints against Michael - from his book, his seminars, websites - sued him for $9 million for defamation for criticizing dental authority for not doing enough to protect patients


0:52:15


Michael had reported a drunk dentist doing something inappropriate to another dentist, right in front of Michael, he sued Michael - this man was the president of the council that MIchael was also on - the council helped this man with costs and information but not Michael - they have since dropped the lawsuit - the dental lab has threatened to sue Michael, that is why he is not naming them


0:53:15


ConfessionsofaFormerCosmeticDentist.com has a lot of the info - the clear connection between dental authorities and over treatment is there - it is mind boggling that they keep coming after Michael because he is not being quiet - most dentists find it easier to shut up - but Michael is at the end of his career so if they pull his license he will be okay


0:55:15


Michael needs to speak out because the provincial Health Minister isn't listening and the public has a right to now - Michael has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars - no patient complaints, just from colleagues - everything Michael says about good dental practice, the ADA challenges it - everyone in the profession knows you shouldn't leave braces on forever


0:46:15


Some dentists leave braces on until they get their money - bottom line is that there is a turf war with corporate interests and it is just a mess - Michael uses his free time to expose the hypocrisy in the profession - and patients are still being hurt


0:57:15


The ADA is trying hard to pull his license - they've spent more money on Michael's case then the British Columbia (BC) provincial dental association has spent on all of their dentists - and more than all the physicians across Canada - Michael was elected to the ADA council to make change, a lot of dentists back him and that the old boys club has run the ADA for decades
 

 
Nevada dental board ripped apart by Governor
 


0:58:15


Why would a lawyer be the ADA's Complaints Director with no dental experience - so some miniscule complaints have blown up to be big complaints, while important complaints get ignored - the Canadian Dental Authority in the last 12 months stated in their magazine that a task force on the future of dentistry - and should look into the continuing education courses and if the content is viable


0:59:15


They say they "should' look into it, but 'should' doesn't get the job done - if they are going to ban this approach, why are they also giving credits for taking the course? - yet Michael has approached many past presidents of the ADA and they said they are not willing to go that far, but Michael thinks it is coming


1:00:15


Michael can be found on social media - his website MichaelZukDDS - ConfessionsofaFormerCosmeticDentist.com - he profiles a lawyer, and her #1 recommendation for dentists to avoid lawsuits is to not take these controversial seminars - Michael says that if we can't talk openly about these issues in the public, there is something wrong


1:01:15


Michael believes patients in Alberta may be looking into a class action lawsuit - Michael recently read about class actions against dental authorities - Michael's ultimate goal right now is to get the ADA audited from the outside - he wrote a book for the Health Minister of Alberta and met with him recently


1:02:15


The BC Dental College was recently audited and there was a long list of concerns - the Nevada Dental Board has been ripped to pieces by the Governor over its corruption - Michael the ADA will not hold up under an outside audit - if the Health Minister makes that pronouncement, the ADA will have to change - if they won't, the ADA can be torn apart - currently they've joined the College and the Association together, they're supposed to be representing dentists and patients


1:03:15


But the ADA only represents itself, and insiders get cushy jobs - there is a lot of corporate interests, and the patient is way down on the totem pole - when there was a sedation injury from a dental surgery - the ADA said they would not revise the surgical sedation guidelines, but eventually changed their tune...an example of not putting patients first


1:04:15


It is messy, but Michael is putting his time in because it is his way of giving back to the profession that has been very good to him, and it will come out better for everybody - the most egregious example of dental harm Michael has seen is the approach to drill down every single tooth in a person's mouth is ridiculously unacceptable


1:05:15


The next wave of dental practice that will be another scandal will be good teeth pulled out so they can have implanted teeth - but they are not as good as your own teeth - dental implants are going to be the next big problem, it will be a mess
 

 
Full mouth implant
 


1:06:15


Implant failure is a problem - for example, if you have a full mouthful of teeth dependent on 4 implants, and if 1 of the implants fails, they all fail - so if you can't afford to pay for full mouth implants 2 or 3 times over without blinking, you should probably not take that approach because there is a good chance the treatment will fail, and it will fail 100%


1:07:15


Dentists may be over confident in their ability to perform this procedure - they may have only taken a weekend course - the lawyers will sniff this one and it will create a back log of complaints in the dental authorities - and the dental authorities have no standard procedures for implants - they wasted time on botox - dentists were using botox and saying it would reduce headaches and clenching


1:08:15


Why are they letting all these dental implant courses be for credit? There is not enough regulation for this highly advanced surgical procedure. Michael thinks to fix the dental industry, there needs to be outside reviews


1:09:15


Currently, dental authorities will assign an ethics course for dentists they think are subpar - but that does nothing for their skills - a lot of these courses have no testing at the end - you can sneak out, go for lunch, lay on the beach, you don't even have to be there - even if dentist is in the course, it doesn't mean they are good at it - surgery is serious and there needs to be standards in the profession - perhaps that will be his next book, but he's got his hand full with the current issues


1:10:15


Michael says to choose your dentist carefully, pay close attention to what is being banned by dental authorities, and get them to explain what it means


1:11:15


But most dentists don't actually read all the bans from the dental authorities, so it is time to get it out there and talk about it - according to legal experts handling malpractice cases, there is a reason these people are being sued


1:12:15


Trying to find reliable info is a 'black hole' - a lot of the information that was available on websites has been vaporized - for example, you can't check to see if a dentist has taken a particular course, because now the dental authorities don't want dentists to list the courses they've taken - so they've taken away info patients may need to make an informed decision - now dentists don't have to say what institution they got their training, so patients don't know if it is prestigious or credible


1:13:15


If the training is not up to par, that training should not be eligible for course credit - re-training of dentists who've been mislead by these seminars is imperative moving forward - but Ontario and Manitoba have taken small steps in the right direction


1:14:15


It will help when more stories hit the media - it is a great way to expose bad practices - it is unfortunate that this is the process we have to go through to improve dentistry - we have to scare 100 people in order to save 2 people from irreparable harm


1:15:15


Michael hopes the ADA will be audited and the administration will be reassembled and that his case is set aside by a higher authority like the Health Minister - if Michael loses his license over this, he will not stop arguing and will be a thorn in their side as long as he's around
 

 
Connect with Michael Zuk, DDS:
 


Website: <a href='http://www.confessionsofaformercosmeticdentist.com/'>ConfessionsofaFormerCosmeticDentist.com</a>


 


Email: smilefx@telusplanet.net or drz@bowerdental.com


 


Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/MichaelZukDDS'>@MichaelZukDDS</a>


 


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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dentist Michael Zuk, author of “<em>Confessions of a Former Cosmetic Dentis</em>t”, is a whistleblower about the dangers of some dental procedures being pushed by corporate entities that are prioritizing profits over patient safety.</p>
<p>There are a lot of continuing education programs for dentists, but there is also a hidden element where corporate interests will train dentists to benefit the corporation, and that can cause serious harm to patients.</p>
<p>Most dental seminars have an underlying corporate interest or group that is benefitting - and the dental associations have not weeded out the courses that offer voodoo science and procedures that are unnecessary - some of the procedures are so new they haven't been tested on people.</p>
<p>Dentists can take a weekend course and start practicing that procedure on Monday morning - with patients as guinea pigs. Dental authorities have known for decades about these dangerous procedures but have been unable to make a dent in stopping them because the underlying problem of making money is influencing the treatment dentists recommend to patients.</p>
<p>Michael’s "<a href='http://www.confessionsofaformercosmeticdentist.com/'><em>Confessions of a Former Cosmetic Former Dentist</em></a>" book caused a big pushback from his dental authority. Michael’s book has been banned by the Alberta Dental Association and College and forced him to take it off the market because they felt (ironically) it was harming the integrity of the profession. The topic of the book was over treatment by cosmetic dentists and the reasons why, and it is still available on the <a href='https://www.amazon.ca/Confessions-Former-Cosmetic-Dentist-Michael/dp/0615370837'>after-market</a>.</p>
<p>Forcing Michael to pull his book from the market is a prime example of how the dental association is involved in a cover up of harmful dental practices and don't want the public to know about needless procedures that can cause permanent damage.</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Like father, like son</p>

0:07:15


Michael grew up in Spirit River, Alberta - north of Grand Prairie - population 1,000 - Michael's father was minister, who also got into politics and became Mayor - and got into trouble mixing politics and religion, and Michael is following those footsteps and causing trouble himself - Michael's father was sued and forced off council for bringing attention to conflicts of interest


0:08:15


Some of those people were also in his congregation, so he was forced out as a preacher too - they tried to force him out of town, so he bounced around different jobs, like a cook - but others would get him fired - his congregation was told that they wouldn't get the sale price at the local grocery store


0:09:15


Michael did 1 year of college, 2 years of pre-dental study in Edmonton, then 4 years of dental school - graduated and opened his practice in Red Deer, Alberta in 1987 with a fellow student and they've been practicing dentistry ever since - Michael was good in science, on the quiet side, and enjoyed art, and these lead him to the dental profession


0:11:15


Molding and designing smiles requires artistic ability, blending with science - but this has also created problematic grey zones - initially in his practice, he was learning the hard way of what worked and didn't - later Michael learned there were a lot of continuing education programs, but also another side where corporate interests will train you to benefit the sponsor, and that can cause serious harm to patients


0:13:15


Most dental seminars have an underlying corporate interest or group that is benefitting - and the dental associations have not weeded out the courses that offer voodoo science and procedures that are unnecessary - some of the procedures are so new they haven't been tested on people


0:14:15


Patients become the guinea pigs - dentists can take a weekend course and start practicing that procedure on Monday morning - or dentists order 1,000s of dollars of products and equipment after being sold by amazing presentations


0:15:15


Some courses are just slight modifications to existing practice, but some seminars are organized similar to 'condo sales' where they try to get dentists as life long clients, or hook them into more seminars - the focus should be on quality of courses using standard of care, or using voodoo science - in some cases, dental authorities have known for decades about these dangerous procedures but have been unable to make a dent in stopping them


0:17:15


Because dentistry is a blend of art and science, there is no one right way to do dentistry - for example, orthodontists don't agree on what defines 'straight teeth', so each approach may have slight differences - so there are many different approaches - each dental authority will have representatives from each school of thought, and by corporate interests that can make changes to regulation
 

 
Corporate seminars
 


0:19:15


Most of the time dentists are paying 100s or 1000s of dollars for courses - some may promote an approach that favours their corporate sponsor, but doesn't meet the standard of care


0:20:15


Early in the 90s, Michael thought cosmetic surgery would be his practice, with porcelain veneers and porcelain crowns and did a number of courses, but the treatment they were talking about was aggressive - for example, drill healthy but crooked teeth and cover them with porcelain so they look straight - this often also required root canals due to the drilling


0:21:15


To Michael, that was an obscene and inappropriate and conflicted with his approach to drill as little as possible, but most courses promoted drilling to put in crowns - the underlying problem of making money, influenced the treatment dentists recommended


0:22:15


Michael learned the courses could not be trusted to teach what was appropriate - and if there was a problem, the corporates wouldn't come to defend the dentist - so Michael didn't trust the courses, or the equipment they were pushing, and doesn't provide the benefits they advertise, and that is an embarrassment to the profession


0:23:15


There are dental device certification programs but they are not very stringent - and the studies cited are not of good quality and are cherry picked to support claims - under scrutiny, many of these seminars would not be producing benefits they are promoting


0:24:15


There is a quiet movement within the profession to push back against these corporate seminars - orthodontic companies have been known to lie and exaggerate benefits of their products - even though studies may show a product does not work, it will still be sold at industry trade shows - not every dentist is aware of these issues and can take years to pull them off the market


0:26:15


Michael wrote a book, "<a href='http://www.confessionsofaformercosmeticdentist.com/'>Confessions of a Cosmetic Dentist</a>", but it has been banned by the Alberta Dental Association and College forced him to take it off the market because it was harming the integrity of the profession - the topic of the book was over treatment by cosmetic dentists and the reasons why - the Alberta Dental Association considers themselves the global work police


0:27:15


They even took a look at seminars Michael had given in Florida as the 'uncosmetic dentist' to encourage them to do more orthodontic and less veneers and have tried to make Michael look bad - his book being pulled is an example of how the dental association is involved in a cover up and don't want the public to know what is going on


0:28:15


Michael's book is still available in the after-market - he had sent a copy to <a href='https://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/m_episodes/2012-2013/money-where-your-mouth-is'>CBC's Marketplace</a> tv program, Your Money is Where Your Mouth Is, where they went undercover - a 15 year girl came to Michael and had been told she needed all of her teeth capped and crowned for sensitivity, and that would have required drilling down to stumps and she would have been irreversible harmed for life
 

 
Motivated by money
 


0:29:15


Her gum sensitivity went away in a couple of weeks of using Sensodyne toothpaste - over treatment is unbelievable - they are motivated by money, but to Michael it is more about being mislead by these seminars where they think they've been trained properly on legitimate procedures


0:30:15


These dentists are like terrorist bombers that have been convinced to give up their life for a cause, and most of these dentists truly believe what they are doing is correct - for example, in dental college, they are taught to refer full mouth reconstructions to o prostodontists, but the seminar will convince the dentist they have the skills - and patients are losing their teeth prematurely because they listened to their dentist


0:31:15


Scary to think they are wiping out the patient's life savings and dooming them to a life time of replacement teeth - in these cases patients are losing their teeth


0:32:15


Michael says it was a mistake by the dental authority to have his book removed from sales, because a few years before they sent out an article titled "I have had enough" about the problem with continuing education courses and over treatment on unsuspecting patients and said cosmetic surgery had turned into a monster


0:33:15


It was clear the Alberta Dental Authority sent it out to scare dentists about over treating - but on the back of the newsletter for 20 years was the company that had been selling these seminars and getting awards from the Alberta Dental Association and College - and given the "Friend of Dentistry" award from the Canadian Dental Association - but promoting very irresponsible and getting the highest award


0:34:15


The Alberta Dental Authority (ADA) was paid every month to advertise these seminars and giving credits for these seminar courses - and then flying Alberta patients to Las Vegas for treatment where they do not have licensed or malpractice insurance


0:35:15


Michael has reported this practice to the ADA but has had no response - they did not want to embarrass their friend - when patients did complain, they were given the cold shoulder - one of Michael's dental assistants was flown to Las Vegas by another dentist and to this day will tear up because her teeth were drilled down to stubs but were only a little crooked


0:36:15S


he needed root canals and now they ache and she got no help from the ADA - Michael believes in the next few years more patients will know of this and raise hell - this is a global problem, these seminars reach dentists all over the world, and dental victims all over the world


0:37:15


Recently the Ontario Dental College has said that neuromuscular dentistry is not approved for full mouth reconstruction or headache treatment - 'neuromuscular dentistry' electronic pulses of the jaw muscles to find the 'perfect' bite - when Michael was in dental school, one the gurus of this approach taught at Micheal's school, and he saw first hand how it was done, and now it has been twisted so they have an excuse to use a full mouth crampons
 

 
Dental associations turning blind eye
 


0:38:15


ODC would not have come to this decision lightly - Manitoba has joined - now these 'neuromuscular' dentists are calling themselves 'physiologic' dentists - they just changed the terminology, the procedures are the same - but the dental associations are not moving fast enough


0:39:15


Michael took it upon himself to notify all the Canadian provincial and most US state dental boards about this important statement of the ODC - he's had some responses - Nevada dental board is being torn apart by the Governor because a victim is standing up to the corruption within it - Nevada and Alberta dental boards are joined at the hip to promote this 'treatment'


0:40:15


Patients are not getting represented in this problem, dental associations are turning a blind eye - an example, a patient was mislead about a sketchy procedure and harmed and complained to the ADA who decided to make an example out of the dentist, but failed to mention the procedure that caused the harm - the ADA spent upwards of $1 million in legal fees going after this 1 dentist


0:42:15


The patient got $11,000, so something wrong with the system - the lawyers don't want to change it, they're making a lot of money - if a harmed patient comes to a lawyer, they will not take the case involving dental harm


0:44:15


ADA doesn't know what its doing - having non-dentist answering questions - saying there is no recognized treatment for TMJ so anything goes - blaming Health Canada and any one else but themselves - if they offer the patient a settlement, it is a fraction of the cost of the long term harm - it is like if you received cancer chemo for the common cold and ended up with liver damage - this is the fear with over treatment


0:45:15C


urrently there are 2 members on the ADA council who've been trained in this discredited approach - 1 has spoken out against it, but another 1 has flown patients to Las Vegas


0:46:15


Talk to a few more victims, it is terrifying - Michael spoke to a malpractice lawyer in San Francisco who became a victim and she sued the dentist, so it can happen to any body


0:47:15


A lot of these dentists are dedicated to education, unfortunately they've dedicated themselves to the wrong seminars - they can use all kinds of dental technical terminology, unfortunately it is based on an incorrect science - partly motivated by money and by respect of their mentors - and they don't want to admit they've made a mistake, it is embarrassing


0:48:15


Probably most dentists would agree that if they looked at the recommendations of some of these dentists, they would disagree - and they would talk about it privately, but to talk publicly, like with you, risks being alienated - even if they agree with Michael, they don't like that he talks about it publicly because it tarnishes every one
 

 
Sued for $9 million
 


0:49:15


Currently the same dental lab is promoting some of their dentists as TMJ experts in magazines that go to the public - a dental lab would wait for the dentist to refer to create crowns for the patient - now they're trying to promote dentists who use their systems to the public - but dental authorities have no control over dental labs, can't pull their license


0:50:15


The most that will happen is the lab will get a letter - but this has been going on for over 20 years and all the top people are making millions of dollars and it has to be exposed, it is insane - the ADA launched a multiple prong attack against Michael


0:51:15


The ADA is trying to discipline Michael for his advertising - orthodontists straighten teeth - many ways to make a smile better - but it is insane to over drill, and that is not Michael's approach and that stepped on the toes of traditional orthodontists


0:52:15


Michael's approach is common in the UK and is proud of it - at a hearing, there were 17 binders of advertising complaints against Michael - from his book, his seminars, websites - sued him for $9 million for defamation for criticizing dental authority for not doing enough to protect patients


0:52:15


Michael had reported a drunk dentist doing something inappropriate to another dentist, right in front of Michael, he sued Michael - this man was the president of the council that MIchael was also on - the council helped this man with costs and information but not Michael - they have since dropped the lawsuit - the dental lab has threatened to sue Michael, that is why he is not naming them


0:53:15


ConfessionsofaFormerCosmeticDentist.com has a lot of the info - the clear connection between dental authorities and over treatment is there - it is mind boggling that they keep coming after Michael because he is not being quiet - most dentists find it easier to shut up - but Michael is at the end of his career so if they pull his license he will be okay


0:55:15


Michael needs to speak out because the provincial Health Minister isn't listening and the public has a right to now - Michael has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars - no patient complaints, just from colleagues - everything Michael says about good dental practice, the ADA challenges it - everyone in the profession knows you shouldn't leave braces on forever


0:46:15


Some dentists leave braces on until they get their money - bottom line is that there is a turf war with corporate interests and it is just a mess - Michael uses his free time to expose the hypocrisy in the profession - and patients are still being hurt


0:57:15


The ADA is trying hard to pull his license - they've spent more money on Michael's case then the British Columbia (BC) provincial dental association has spent on all of their dentists - and more than all the physicians across Canada - Michael was elected to the ADA council to make change, a lot of dentists back him and that the old boys club has run the ADA for decades
 

 
Nevada dental board ripped apart by Governor
 


0:58:15


Why would a lawyer be the ADA's Complaints Director with no dental experience - so some miniscule complaints have blown up to be big complaints, while important complaints get ignored - the Canadian Dental Authority in the last 12 months stated in their magazine that a task force on the future of dentistry - and should look into the continuing education courses and if the content is viable


0:59:15


They say they "should' look into it, but 'should' doesn't get the job done - if they are going to ban this approach, why are they also giving credits for taking the course? - yet Michael has approached many past presidents of the ADA and they said they are not willing to go that far, but Michael thinks it is coming


1:00:15


Michael can be found on social media - his website MichaelZukDDS - ConfessionsofaFormerCosmeticDentist.com - he profiles a lawyer, and her #1 recommendation for dentists to avoid lawsuits is to not take these controversial seminars - Michael says that if we can't talk openly about these issues in the public, there is something wrong


1:01:15


Michael believes patients in Alberta may be looking into a class action lawsuit - Michael recently read about class actions against dental authorities - Michael's ultimate goal right now is to get the ADA audited from the outside - he wrote a book for the Health Minister of Alberta and met with him recently


1:02:15


The BC Dental College was recently audited and there was a long list of concerns - the Nevada Dental Board has been ripped to pieces by the Governor over its corruption - Michael the ADA will not hold up under an outside audit - if the Health Minister makes that pronouncement, the ADA will have to change - if they won't, the ADA can be torn apart - currently they've joined the College and the Association together, they're supposed to be representing dentists and patients


1:03:15


But the ADA only represents itself, and insiders get cushy jobs - there is a lot of corporate interests, and the patient is way down on the totem pole - when there was a sedation injury from a dental surgery - the ADA said they would not revise the surgical sedation guidelines, but eventually changed their tune...an example of not putting patients first


1:04:15


It is messy, but Michael is putting his time in because it is his way of giving back to the profession that has been very good to him, and it will come out better for everybody - the most egregious example of dental harm Michael has seen is the approach to drill down every single tooth in a person's mouth is ridiculously unacceptable


1:05:15


The next wave of dental practice that will be another scandal will be good teeth pulled out so they can have implanted teeth - but they are not as good as your own teeth - dental implants are going to be the next big problem, it will be a mess
 

 
Full mouth implant
 


1:06:15


Implant failure is a problem - for example, if you have a full mouthful of teeth dependent on 4 implants, and if 1 of the implants fails, they all fail - so if you can't afford to pay for full mouth implants 2 or 3 times over without blinking, you should probably not take that approach because there is a good chance the treatment will fail, and it will fail 100%


1:07:15


Dentists may be over confident in their ability to perform this procedure - they may have only taken a weekend course - the lawyers will sniff this one and it will create a back log of complaints in the dental authorities - and the dental authorities have no standard procedures for implants - they wasted time on botox - dentists were using botox and saying it would reduce headaches and clenching


1:08:15


Why are they letting all these dental implant courses be for credit? There is not enough regulation for this highly advanced surgical procedure. Michael thinks to fix the dental industry, there needs to be outside reviews


1:09:15


Currently, dental authorities will assign an ethics course for dentists they think are subpar - but that does nothing for their skills - a lot of these courses have no testing at the end - you can sneak out, go for lunch, lay on the beach, you don't even have to be there - even if dentist is in the course, it doesn't mean they are good at it - surgery is serious and there needs to be standards in the profession - perhaps that will be his next book, but he's got his hand full with the current issues


1:10:15


Michael says to choose your dentist carefully, pay close attention to what is being banned by dental authorities, and get them to explain what it means


1:11:15


But most dentists don't actually read all the bans from the dental authorities, so it is time to get it out there and talk about it - according to legal experts handling malpractice cases, there is a reason these people are being sued


1:12:15


Trying to find reliable info is a 'black hole' - a lot of the information that was available on websites has been vaporized - for example, you can't check to see if a dentist has taken a particular course, because now the dental authorities don't want dentists to list the courses they've taken - so they've taken away info patients may need to make an informed decision - now dentists don't have to say what institution they got their training, so patients don't know if it is prestigious or credible


1:13:15


If the training is not up to par, that training should not be eligible for course credit - re-training of dentists who've been mislead by these seminars is imperative moving forward - but Ontario and Manitoba have taken small steps in the right direction


1:14:15


It will help when more stories hit the media - it is a great way to expose bad practices - it is unfortunate that this is the process we have to go through to improve dentistry - we have to scare 100 people in order to save 2 people from irreparable harm


1:15:15


Michael hopes the ADA will be audited and the administration will be reassembled and that his case is set aside by a higher authority like the Health Minister - if Michael loses his license over this, he will not stop arguing and will be a thorn in their side as long as he's around
 

 
Connect with Michael Zuk, DDS:
 


Website: <a href='http://www.confessionsofaformercosmeticdentist.com/'>ConfessionsofaFormerCosmeticDentist.com</a>


 


Email: smilefx@telusplanet.net or drz@bowerdental.com


 


Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/MichaelZukDDS'>@MichaelZukDDS</a>


 


Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/Michael-Zuk-DDS-311588048867327/'>Michael Zuk DDS</a>

 



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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dentist Michael Zuk, author of “Confessions of a Former Cosmetic Dentist”, is a whistleblower about the dangers of some dental procedures being pushed by corporate entities that are prioritizing profits over patient safety.
There are a lot of continuing education programs for dentists, but there is also a hidden element where corporate interests will train dentists to benefit the corporation, and that can cause serious harm to patients.
Most dental seminars have an underlying corporate interest or group that is benefitting - and the dental associations have not weeded out the courses that offer voodoo science and procedures that are unnecessary - some of the procedures are so new they haven't been tested on people.
Dentists can take a weekend course and start practicing that procedure on Monday morning - with patients as guinea pigs. Dental authorities have known for decades about these dangerous procedures but have been unable to make a dent in stopping them because the underlying problem of making money is influencing the treatment dentists recommend to patients.
Michael’s "Confessions of a Former Cosmetic Former Dentist" book caused a big pushback from his dental authority. Michael’s book has been banned by the Alberta Dental Association and College and forced him to take it off the market because they felt (ironically) it was harming the integrity of the profession. The topic of the book was over treatment by cosmetic dentists and the reasons why, and it is still available on the after-market.
Forcing Michael to pull his book from the market is a prime example of how the dental association is involved in a cover up of harmful dental practices and don't want the public to know about needless procedures that can cause permanent damage.

SHOW NOTES
Like father, like son

0:07:15


Michael grew up in Spirit River, Alberta - north of Grand Prairie - population 1,000 - Michael's father was minister, who also got into politics and became Mayor - and got into trouble mixing politics and religion, and Michael is following those footsteps and causing trouble himself - Michael's father was sued and forced off council for bringing attention to conflicts of interest


0:08:15


Some of those people were also in his congregation, so he was forced out as a preacher too - they tried to force him out of town, so he bounced around different jobs, like a cook - but others would get him fired - his congregation was told that they wouldn't get the sale price at the local grocery store


0:09:15


Michael did 1 year of college, 2 years of pre-dental study in Edmonton, then 4 years of dental school - graduated and opened his practice in Red Deer, Alberta in 1987 with a fellow student and they've been practicing dentistry ever since - Michael was good in science, on the quiet side, and enjoyed art, and these lead him to the dental profession


0:11:15


Molding and designing smiles requires artistic ability, blending with science - but this has also created problematic grey zones - initially in his practice, he was learning the hard way of what worked and didn't - later Michael learned there were a lot of continuing education programs, but also another side where corporate interests will train you to benefit the sponsor, and that can cause serious harm to patients


0:13:15


Most dental seminars have an underlying corporate interest or group that is benefitting - and the dental associations have not weeded out the courses that offer voodoo science and procedures that are unnecessary - some of the procedures are so new they haven't been tested on people


0:14:15


Patients become the guinea pigs - dentists can take a weekend course and start practicing that procedure on Monday morning - or dentists order 1,000s of dollars of products and equipment after being sold by amazing presentations


0:15:15


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>In part 2 of my interview with mold warrior Erik Johnson, he tells about the lengths he’s had to go to get and keep himself healthy. Erik terms his approach ‘extreme mold avoidance’ - and that involves a modified and mold-free camper vehicle, and also mapping, and then avoiding, areas and buildings with high levels of toxic black mold Stachybotrys Chartarum.</p>
<p>Erik has been relentless in his efforts to bring awareness to the public, patients and researchers that toxic mold is an element of ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’. </p>
<p>Yet there is resistance by the Centre for Disease Control, by researchers, and by the medical profession, to consider or acknowledge how unseen toxic mold in our workplace, public and home environments may be making many people very sick.</p>
<p>As you will hear Erik explain, there has been incredible pressure to hide the impact of toxic mold on human health. Erik also shares how the derogatory label of ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’ re-classified an entire illness from an ‘infectious illness’ diagnosis, to the ‘all in your head’ insult.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p></p>
<p>Erik's Mold Map</p>

0:05:15


The whole point of redefining CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) was to put distance between CFS and the initial incident it was based on to keep it in maximum confusion - and loosened up on the psychiatric exclusion, whereas <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Holmes_criteria'>Holmes (definition)</a> was clear that psychiatric must be excluded


0:06:00


When <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Erik_Johnson'>Erik</a> saw strong connection between mold and CFS, he proposed to <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cheney'>Dr Cheney</a> that since he was focused on the viral factor, Erik would focus on the mold factor


0:07:00


The 1994 study by <a href='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8148452'>Chester Levine "Association of concurrence between sick building syndrome and CFS: Epidemic neurasthenia revisited</a>" - was a study of clusters, including <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/1984_Truckee_outbreak'>Truckee </a>school - mentions other clusters including <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/List_of_myalgic_encephalomyelitis_and_chronic_fatigue_syndrome_outbreaks'>Elk Grove</a> in California, where same exact malady emerged in teacher in a sick building


0:08:00


It took Erik several years to find out what specific mold was involved, but it was <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stachybotrys_chartarum'>Stachybotrys Chartarum</a> (SC), the dreaded black mold, same as the Lake Tahoe - Erik thought this should be included in the CFS criteria so that they become a putative mold reactivity patient


0:09:00


If CFS patients have mold reactivity, they can be instructed on how to avoid it and reduce symptoms - Erik tried to identify the worse place / buildings in Lake Tahoe and created a map to avoid them and started to recover


0:10:00


Erik thought he could maximize his recovery be spending more time in the nearby Nevada desert - he was eager to get back into aviation and hanging out a small airport - one day he sees a 'crazy man' out in the desert heat raking, by hand, a 700 foot landing strip


0:11:00


Nearby was a tractor with rake attached, set up to do the job - Erik asked him about it and got a strange look, as his mental wheels were turning - he said 'I've got this strange illness, I'm from Incline Village, Nevada, and doctors tell me I have CFS, and I come out to the desert because it is the only thing that helps' - he was coming to the desert for the exact same reason as Erik


0:12:00


They started telling other people - and taking them to the 'toxic' areas of town to see if they reacted and decide if they wanted to try to avoid mold - this is how the CFS Mold Tour began - he's taken many prominent people on this tour, author <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Julie_Rehmeyer'>Julie Rehmeyer</a> (<a href='https://www.amazon.ca/Through-Shadowlands-Science-Writers-Understand/dp/1623367654'>Through the Shadow Lands</a>) and she became a mold avoider

<p></p>
<p>Powerful Neurotoxin</p>

0:13:00


<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Brea'>Jennifer Brea</a>, director of documentary <a href='https://www.unrest.film/'>Unrest</a> also got Mold Tour and realized she needed to avoid mold too - what is curious to Erik, is that no researcher enquired about why Jen was avoiding mold in her documentary


0:14:00


Erik has asked researchers at screenings of Unrest why they think Jen is doing that - but he has not been able to drum up any interested researchers - because SC is one of the most powerful neurotoxins known to man, it is essentially like nerve gas, so neuroinflammatory - repeated exposures cause neurological symptoms similar to nerve agents


0:15:00


The chronic inflammation puts stress on the nerves that the electrical impulses in the nerve become inhibited, and to compensate, the nerves thicken their myelin sheath to help nerve impulses and restore function


0:16:00


For a long time, researchers assumed these neurological symptoms were close to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_sclerosis'>multiple sclerosis</a> (MS) - so with intracranial hypertension, neurological information from toxic mold exposure, where the physical damage perpetuates symptoms, like in <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiari_malformation'>Chiari Malformation</a> where the brain is literally pushing itself out of the skull, opening pressure on spinal taps, and spinal fluid leaks


0:17:00


Erik thinks breakdown of ligaments and collagen contribute to neck problems in some CFS patients and is due to downstream effects of chronic inflammation over years - Erik's health did pretty good for a few years


0:18:00


Erik would also check wind direction to avoid toxic areas, and being down wind of them, in town - if he couldn't avoid these areas, he would shower and change clothes as soon as possible


0:19:00


By reducing inflammatory response and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_release_syndrome'>cytokine cascade</a>, he's been able to live like a normal person - Erik had to find a home free of mold - he also built a camper out of mold resistant materials to drive around that had a shower in it


0:20:00


This allows him to decontaminate quickly - but in 1994 he slowly started getting worse - turns out it was neighbouring houses, the sewer - Erik got sicker and sicker and went to Dr Peterson


0:21:00


But <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Peterson'>Dr Peterson</a> was too busy with his viral interests - Erik got worse, almost bed ridden again - Erik was diagnosed, again, with CFS with reactivated <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_herpesvirus_6'>HHV6</a> - Dr Peterson said Erik's only option was the drug <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Ampligen'>Ampligen</a>, an experimental medication that pushes the immune system into high gear
 

 
Desert Living
 


0:22:00


Some people have a spectacular response to Ampligen - but free Ampligen in the trial was only open to very sick / bed ridden patients - since Erik could still walk, he would only be eligible for the cost recovery program, but Ampligen cost about $60k / year and Erik could not afford that and his insurance company had canceled his insurance because he had CFS


0:23:00


Erik decided to try even harder to avoid mold, extreme avoidance and see if he could max out his health - Dr Peterson didn't think it would work, but since Erik couldn't afford Ampligen, what was there to lose - Erik bought a camper and drove it to the desert and spent as much time as possible in pristine environments and once again his health improved


0:24:00


Within 6 months of extreme mold avoidance, Erik was climbing <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Whitney'>Mt Whitney</a>, the tallest mountain in connected USA, 13,500 feet high and a 25 mile hike - takes about 20 hours to climb


0:25:00


Erik thought that climbing Mt Whitney as a CFS patient avoiding mold would be impossible for researchers to ignore - but their reaction was 'how nice for you'


0:26:00


Erik says that mold is the common factor in all these clusters - but researchers don't want to investigate the mold aspect - he hopes one day we'll know why they are not interested


0:27:00


CFS emerges after a trigger, usually a viral infection - researchers focus on the trigger as if it was the sole cause


0:28:00


From the moment the CDC (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention'>Centre for Disease Control</a>) announced they intended to collate the results, Erik began contacting CFS researchers and explaining he was the prototype patient for CFS, but he did not get one positive response


0:29:00


By the time the 1988 Holmes definition of CFS was published, Erik realized this was more than just a scientific endeavour, and more than documenting the toxic mold aspect, it was sociological research to see how researchers would handle a situation like this, and that's how Erik approached CFS research


0:30:00


Erik created a standard phrase to see how doctors and researchers responded: "I'm an Incline Village survivor and prototype patient for the 1988 Holmes criteria, would you like to hear about it?" - never, not once over 30 years has Erik had a positive interest response, it is mind boggling
 

 
Confidentiality Agreement
 


0:31:00


When <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/'>Osler's Web</a> came out, Erik already realized he was getting 100% negative response from researchers and no interest in following up on the Lake Tahoe outbreak - but Erik couldn't believe that on page 25, the Truckee teacher cluster - Erik's teachers - is clearly described - when Erik makes his assertion that CFS was never investigated, it sounds unbelievable - but those teachers told Holmes there was something in that school room


0:32:00


In Osler's Web, it talks about the disdain Holmes had for these teachers - on page 49, a couple of patients ambush Dr Holmes and explained about that school room and the infrequently changed air filters in that room and asked him to examine the air filters in that room


0:33:00


Turns out the filters did have the toxic mold SC - the school realized they had toxic mold and hired remediators to clean it up and the incidence of illness decreased - the school and its teachers, remediators, towns people and local doctors know about this - but not CFS researchers


0:34:00


Erik went to CFS symposiums and said he could take them to the locations and introduce them to the remediators who cleaned up the mold - Erik ran into a problem: the school authorities did want people to know about it, the teachers are fearful of repercussions so keep quiet - and the remediators said they couldn't disclose because they had a confidentiality agreement with the schools


0:35:00


So the only person who has no vested interest and willing to describe it is Erik - the remediation of the mold was in the newspapers - so clearing up CFS is simply doing some epidemiology research


0:36:00


Erik climbs Mt Whitney every year to celebrate his recovery - he posts about it online and how has helped other people recover from CFS - author Julie Rehmeyer is the most high profile person he's helped - she wrote an article for the <a href='https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/what-is-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-and-why-arent-we-doing-more-to-treat-the-illness/2014/10/06/4cfff312-d458-11e3-8a78-8fe50322a72c_story.html'>Washington Post: What is CFS and why is more not being done to study this disease?</a>


0:37:00


In the 2015 article Julie describes how none of the other treatments her doctor had tried had much effect - Julie heard about the extreme mold avoiders and decided to come to Incline Village and Erik took her the sick buildings - after a short period of mold avoidance her <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Post-exertional_malaise'>post exertional malaise</a> symptom had disappeared and she was climbing mountains
 

 
Media Interest, But No Researcher Interest
 


0:38:00


So we have a direct intervention for CFS and it deserves research - but still, no researchers have looked into mold in CFS


0:40:00


SC has been studied quite a bit, but only known in the mold community, not in the CFS community - the CDC puts pressure not to research mold - they don't want this very expensive problem to come to public light


0:41:00


Because a lot of schools and public buildings will be affected - the CDC did its own toxic mold investigation in 1984 and found exactly what they didn't want to find and they buried that research through paralysis by analysis - but stated that nothing conclusive was discovered and more research is needed, but they didn't do it


0:42:00


Erik has returned to flying, a very expensive hobby, and mold avoidance is a very expensive therapy and includes avoiding sick buildings and immediately decontaminating if he is exposed - so that curtailed how much flying he could do, so he turned to mountain climbing and hiking - Erik does a ton of advocacy work around mold, and that doesn't pay, he hasn't made a dime


0:43:00


Erik goes to the ME/CFS conferences and tells his story to researchers as they take an active disinterest - like <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Johnson'>Hillary Johnson</a> said, the politics is so compelling it draws you back in, its unique, and the sheer unbelievable, bizarre aspect that keeps sucking Erik back in - he can't believe this happened and the medical and research communities behaved in this way


0:44:00


Erik believes to fix the problem, it needs to be brought to light - the medical profession needs to realize they've committed an epic failures in their entire history - perhaps the embarrassment will force them to reconsider how they do business


0:45:00


Erik doesn't think any one will believe or understand this complex convoluted history until a movie is made about it - Erik's basic premise is that a researcher would want evidence, and so Erik developed a test


0:46:00


Back in the 1800s when <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis'>Ignaz Semmelweis</a>, a Hungarian physician in Austria, discovered that hand washing killed germs - he noted that the 2 health clinics had different mortality rates - the midwife's clinic had a very good success rate, but the doctor's clinic had an unbelievably high mortality rate from childbed fever (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postpartum_infections'>puerperal sepsis</a>)
 

 
Money Can't Buy A Ride Like This
 


0:47:00


A pathologist doing an autopsy on a childbed fever death, nicked himself and he then died of the same illness - this suggested something, 'cadavers particles', had been transferred to the doctor through the blood - Semmelweis implemented hand washing with lyme / bleach and instantly reduced the mortality rate at the doctor's clinic - there were no autopsy's at the midwife's clinic


0:48:00


Semmelweis didn't know it was germs, but he didn't need to - he only needed to note that there was difference between the buildings and start to investigate - the history of CFS is similar: sick buildings making people sick


0:49:00


But no current researchers are investigating - in effect, there are no more Semmelweis - Erik has used the internet to get this info out and spending a lot of time in social media groups building up a following to put pressure on researchers and all this will come to light


0:50:00


Why does Erik keep doing advocacy? Hillary Johnson described Dr Cheney when he was in the middle of his fight with the CDC as saying "Money can't buy a ride like this"
 
 
 
Connect with Erik Johnson:
 


Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/erikjohnsoneffect/?epa=SEARCH_BOX'>The Erik Johnson Effect</a>


 


Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/erikmoldwarrior'>@ErikMoldWarrior</a>
 
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In part 2 of my interview with mold warrior Erik Johnson, he tells about the lengths he’s had to go to get and keep himself healthy. Erik terms his approach ‘extreme mold avoidance’ - and that involves a modified and mold-free camper vehicle, and also mapping, and then avoiding, areas and buildings with high levels of toxic black mold Stachybotrys Chartarum.</p>
<p>Erik has been relentless in his efforts to bring awareness to the public, patients and researchers that toxic mold is an element of ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’. </p>
<p>Yet there is resistance by the Centre for Disease Control, by researchers, and by the medical profession, to consider or acknowledge how unseen toxic mold in our workplace, public and home environments may be making many people very sick.</p>
<p>As you will hear Erik explain, there has been incredible pressure to hide the impact of toxic mold on human health. Erik also shares how the derogatory label of ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’ re-classified an entire illness from an ‘infectious illness’ diagnosis, to the ‘all in your head’ insult.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p></p>
<p>Erik's Mold Map</p>

0:05:15


The whole point of redefining CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) was to put distance between CFS and the initial incident it was based on to keep it in maximum confusion - and loosened up on the psychiatric exclusion, whereas <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Holmes_criteria'>Holmes (definition)</a> was clear that psychiatric must be excluded


0:06:00


When <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Erik_Johnson'>Erik</a> saw strong connection between mold and CFS, he proposed to <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cheney'>Dr Cheney</a> that since he was focused on the viral factor, Erik would focus on the mold factor


0:07:00


The 1994 study by <a href='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8148452'>Chester Levine "Association of concurrence between sick building syndrome and CFS: Epidemic neurasthenia revisited</a>" - was a study of clusters, including <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/1984_Truckee_outbreak'>Truckee </a>school - mentions other clusters including <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/List_of_myalgic_encephalomyelitis_and_chronic_fatigue_syndrome_outbreaks'>Elk Grove</a> in California, where same exact malady emerged in teacher in a sick building


0:08:00


It took Erik several years to find out what specific mold was involved, but it was <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stachybotrys_chartarum'>Stachybotrys Chartarum</a> (SC), the dreaded black mold, same as the Lake Tahoe - Erik thought this should be included in the CFS criteria so that they become a putative mold reactivity patient


0:09:00


If CFS patients have mold reactivity, they can be instructed on how to avoid it and reduce symptoms - Erik tried to identify the worse place / buildings in Lake Tahoe and created a map to avoid them and started to recover


0:10:00


Erik thought he could maximize his recovery be spending more time in the nearby Nevada desert - he was eager to get back into aviation and hanging out a small airport - one day he sees a 'crazy man' out in the desert heat raking, by hand, a 700 foot landing strip


0:11:00


Nearby was a tractor with rake attached, set up to do the job - Erik asked him about it and got a strange look, as his mental wheels were turning - he said 'I've got this strange illness, I'm from Incline Village, Nevada, and doctors tell me I have CFS, and I come out to the desert because it is the only thing that helps' - he was coming to the desert for the exact same reason as Erik


0:12:00


They started telling other people - and taking them to the 'toxic' areas of town to see if they reacted and decide if they wanted to try to avoid mold - this is how the CFS Mold Tour began - he's taken many prominent people on this tour, author <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Julie_Rehmeyer'>Julie Rehmeyer</a> (<a href='https://www.amazon.ca/Through-Shadowlands-Science-Writers-Understand/dp/1623367654'>Through the Shadow Lands</a>) and she became a mold avoider

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<p>Powerful Neurotoxin</p>

0:13:00


<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Brea'>Jennifer Brea</a>, director of documentary <a href='https://www.unrest.film/'>Unrest</a> also got Mold Tour and realized she needed to avoid mold too - what is curious to Erik, is that no researcher enquired about why Jen was avoiding mold in her documentary


0:14:00


Erik has asked researchers at screenings of Unrest why they think Jen is doing that - but he has not been able to drum up any interested researchers - because SC is one of the most powerful neurotoxins known to man, it is essentially like nerve gas, so neuroinflammatory - repeated exposures cause neurological symptoms similar to nerve agents


0:15:00


The chronic inflammation puts stress on the nerves that the electrical impulses in the nerve become inhibited, and to compensate, the nerves thicken their myelin sheath to help nerve impulses and restore function


0:16:00


For a long time, researchers assumed these neurological symptoms were close to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_sclerosis'>multiple sclerosis</a> (MS) - so with intracranial hypertension, neurological information from toxic mold exposure, where the physical damage perpetuates symptoms, like in <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiari_malformation'>Chiari Malformation</a> where the brain is literally pushing itself out of the skull, opening pressure on spinal taps, and spinal fluid leaks


0:17:00


Erik thinks breakdown of ligaments and collagen contribute to neck problems in some CFS patients and is due to downstream effects of chronic inflammation over years - Erik's health did pretty good for a few years


0:18:00


Erik would also check wind direction to avoid toxic areas, and being down wind of them, in town - if he couldn't avoid these areas, he would shower and change clothes as soon as possible


0:19:00


By reducing inflammatory response and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_release_syndrome'>cytokine cascade</a>, he's been able to live like a normal person - Erik had to find a home free of mold - he also built a camper out of mold resistant materials to drive around that had a shower in it


0:20:00


This allows him to decontaminate quickly - but in 1994 he slowly started getting worse - turns out it was neighbouring houses, the sewer - Erik got sicker and sicker and went to Dr Peterson


0:21:00


But <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Peterson'>Dr Peterson</a> was too busy with his viral interests - Erik got worse, almost bed ridden again - Erik was diagnosed, again, with CFS with reactivated <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_herpesvirus_6'>HHV6</a> - Dr Peterson said Erik's only option was the drug <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Ampligen'>Ampligen</a>, an experimental medication that pushes the immune system into high gear
 

 
Desert Living
 


0:22:00


Some people have a spectacular response to Ampligen - but free Ampligen in the trial was only open to very sick / bed ridden patients - since Erik could still walk, he would only be eligible for the cost recovery program, but Ampligen cost about $60k / year and Erik could not afford that and his insurance company had canceled his insurance because he had CFS


0:23:00


Erik decided to try even harder to avoid mold, extreme avoidance and see if he could max out his health - Dr Peterson didn't think it would work, but since Erik couldn't afford Ampligen, what was there to lose - Erik bought a camper and drove it to the desert and spent as much time as possible in pristine environments and once again his health improved


0:24:00


Within 6 months of extreme mold avoidance, Erik was climbing <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Whitney'>Mt Whitney</a>, the tallest mountain in connected USA, 13,500 feet high and a 25 mile hike - takes about 20 hours to climb


0:25:00


Erik thought that climbing Mt Whitney as a CFS patient avoiding mold would be impossible for researchers to ignore - but their reaction was 'how nice for you'


0:26:00


Erik says that mold is the common factor in all these clusters - but researchers don't want to investigate the mold aspect - he hopes one day we'll know why they are not interested


0:27:00


CFS emerges after a trigger, usually a viral infection - researchers focus on the trigger as if it was the sole cause


0:28:00


From the moment the CDC (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention'>Centre for Disease Control</a>) announced they intended to collate the results, Erik began contacting CFS researchers and explaining he was the prototype patient for CFS, but he did not get one positive response


0:29:00


By the time the 1988 Holmes definition of CFS was published, Erik realized this was more than just a scientific endeavour, and more than documenting the toxic mold aspect, it was sociological research to see how researchers would handle a situation like this, and that's how Erik approached CFS research


0:30:00


Erik created a standard phrase to see how doctors and researchers responded: "I'm an Incline Village survivor and prototype patient for the 1988 Holmes criteria, would you like to hear about it?" - never, not once over 30 years has Erik had a positive interest response, it is mind boggling
 

 
Confidentiality Agreement
 


0:31:00


When <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/'>Osler's Web</a> came out, Erik already realized he was getting 100% negative response from researchers and no interest in following up on the Lake Tahoe outbreak - but Erik couldn't believe that on page 25, the Truckee teacher cluster - Erik's teachers - is clearly described - when Erik makes his assertion that CFS was never investigated, it sounds unbelievable - but those teachers told Holmes there was something in that school room


0:32:00


In Osler's Web, it talks about the disdain Holmes had for these teachers - on page 49, a couple of patients ambush Dr Holmes and explained about that school room and the infrequently changed air filters in that room and asked him to examine the air filters in that room


0:33:00


Turns out the filters did have the toxic mold SC - the school realized they had toxic mold and hired remediators to clean it up and the incidence of illness decreased - the school and its teachers, remediators, towns people and local doctors know about this - but not CFS researchers


0:34:00


Erik went to CFS symposiums and said he could take them to the locations and introduce them to the remediators who cleaned up the mold - Erik ran into a problem: the school authorities did want people to know about it, the teachers are fearful of repercussions so keep quiet - and the remediators said they couldn't disclose because they had a confidentiality agreement with the schools


0:35:00


So the only person who has no vested interest and willing to describe it is Erik - the remediation of the mold was in the newspapers - so clearing up CFS is simply doing some epidemiology research


0:36:00


Erik climbs Mt Whitney every year to celebrate his recovery - he posts about it online and how has helped other people recover from CFS - author Julie Rehmeyer is the most high profile person he's helped - she wrote an article for the <a href='https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/what-is-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-and-why-arent-we-doing-more-to-treat-the-illness/2014/10/06/4cfff312-d458-11e3-8a78-8fe50322a72c_story.html'>Washington Post: What is CFS and why is more not being done to study this disease?</a>


0:37:00


In the 2015 article Julie describes how none of the other treatments her doctor had tried had much effect - Julie heard about the extreme mold avoiders and decided to come to Incline Village and Erik took her the sick buildings - after a short period of mold avoidance her <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Post-exertional_malaise'>post exertional malaise</a> symptom had disappeared and she was climbing mountains
 

 
Media Interest, But No Researcher Interest
 


0:38:00


So we have a direct intervention for CFS and it deserves research - but still, no researchers have looked into mold in CFS


0:40:00


SC has been studied quite a bit, but only known in the mold community, not in the CFS community - the CDC puts pressure not to research mold - they don't want this very expensive problem to come to public light


0:41:00


Because a lot of schools and public buildings will be affected - the CDC did its own toxic mold investigation in 1984 and found exactly what they didn't want to find and they buried that research through paralysis by analysis - but stated that nothing conclusive was discovered and more research is needed, but they didn't do it


0:42:00


Erik has returned to flying, a very expensive hobby, and mold avoidance is a very expensive therapy and includes avoiding sick buildings and immediately decontaminating if he is exposed - so that curtailed how much flying he could do, so he turned to mountain climbing and hiking - Erik does a ton of advocacy work around mold, and that doesn't pay, he hasn't made a dime


0:43:00


Erik goes to the ME/CFS conferences and tells his story to researchers as they take an active disinterest - like <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Johnson'>Hillary Johnson</a> said, the politics is so compelling it draws you back in, its unique, and the sheer unbelievable, bizarre aspect that keeps sucking Erik back in - he can't believe this happened and the medical and research communities behaved in this way


0:44:00


Erik believes to fix the problem, it needs to be brought to light - the medical profession needs to realize they've committed an epic failures in their entire history - perhaps the embarrassment will force them to reconsider how they do business


0:45:00


Erik doesn't think any one will believe or understand this complex convoluted history until a movie is made about it - Erik's basic premise is that a researcher would want evidence, and so Erik developed a test


0:46:00


Back in the 1800s when <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis'>Ignaz Semmelweis</a>, a Hungarian physician in Austria, discovered that hand washing killed germs - he noted that the 2 health clinics had different mortality rates - the midwife's clinic had a very good success rate, but the doctor's clinic had an unbelievably high mortality rate from childbed fever (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postpartum_infections'>puerperal sepsis</a>)
 

 
Money Can't Buy A Ride Like This
 


0:47:00


A pathologist doing an autopsy on a childbed fever death, nicked himself and he then died of the same illness - this suggested something, 'cadavers particles', had been transferred to the doctor through the blood - Semmelweis implemented hand washing with lyme / bleach and instantly reduced the mortality rate at the doctor's clinic - there were no autopsy's at the midwife's clinic


0:48:00


Semmelweis didn't know it was germs, but he didn't need to - he only needed to note that there was difference between the buildings and start to investigate - the history of CFS is similar: sick buildings making people sick


0:49:00


But no current researchers are investigating - in effect, there are no more Semmelweis - Erik has used the internet to get this info out and spending a lot of time in social media groups building up a following to put pressure on researchers and all this will come to light


0:50:00


Why does Erik keep doing advocacy? Hillary Johnson described Dr Cheney when he was in the middle of his fight with the CDC as saying "Money can't buy a ride like this"
 
 
 
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Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/erikmoldwarrior'>@ErikMoldWarrior</a>
 
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Erik has been relentless in his efforts to bring awareness to the public, patients and researchers that toxic mold is an element of ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’. 
Yet there is resistance by the Centre for Disease Control, by researchers, and by the medical profession, to consider or acknowledge how unseen toxic mold in our workplace, public and home environments may be making many people very sick.
As you will hear Erik explain, there has been incredible pressure to hide the impact of toxic mold on human health. Erik also shares how the derogatory label of ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’ re-classified an entire illness from an ‘infectious illness’ diagnosis, to the ‘all in your head’ insult.
SHOW NOTES

Erik's Mold Map

0:05:15


The whole point of redefining CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) was to put distance between CFS and the initial incident it was based on to keep it in maximum confusion - and loosened up on the psychiatric exclusion, whereas Holmes (definition) was clear that psychiatric must be excluded


0:06:00


When Erik saw strong connection between mold and CFS, he proposed to Dr Cheney that since he was focused on the viral factor, Erik would focus on the mold factor


0:07:00


The 1994 study by Chester Levine "Association of concurrence between sick building syndrome and CFS: Epidemic neurasthenia revisited" - was a study of clusters, including Truckee school - mentions other clusters including Elk Grove in California, where same exact malady emerged in teacher in a sick building


0:08:00


It took Erik several years to find out what specific mold was involved, but it was Stachybotrys Chartarum (SC), the dreaded black mold, same as the Lake Tahoe - Erik thought this should be included in the CFS criteria so that they become a putative mold reactivity patient


0:09:00


If CFS patients have mold reactivity, they can be instructed on how to avoid it and reduce symptoms - Erik tried to identify the worse place / buildings in Lake Tahoe and created a map to avoid them and started to recover


0:10:00


Erik thought he could maximize his recovery be spending more time in the nearby Nevada desert - he was eager to get back into aviation and hanging out a small airport - one day he sees a 'crazy man' out in the desert heat raking, by hand, a 700 foot landing strip


0:11:00


Nearby was a tractor with rake attached, set up to do the job - Erik asked him about it and got a strange look, as his mental wheels were turning - he said 'I've got this strange illness, I'm from Incline Village, Nevada, and doctors tell me I have CFS, and I come out to the desert because it is the only thing that helps' - he was coming to the desert for the exact same reason as Erik


0:12:00


They started telling other people - and taking them to the 'toxic' areas of town to see if they reacted and decide if they wanted to try to avoid mold - this is how the CFS Mold Tour began - he's taken many prominent people on this tour, author Julie Rehmeyer (Through the Shadow Lands) and she became a mold avoider


Powerful Neurotoxin

0:13:00


Jennifer Brea, director of documentary Unrest also got Mold Tour and realized she needed to avoid mold too - what is curious to Erik, is that no researcher enquired about why Jen was avoiding mold in her documentary


0:14:00


Erik has asked researchers at screenings of Unrest why they think Jen is doing that - but he has not been able to drum up any interested researchers - because SC is one of the most powerful neurotoxins known to man, it is essentially like nerve gas, so neuroinflammatory - repeated exposures cause neurological symptoms similar ]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Eight year old Erik Johnson figured out what was making him very ill: the building his family lived in. But instead of listening to Erik, doctors gave him a psychological diagnosis - ‘maybe autism’ they said.</p>
<p>In part 1 of my interview with Erik, he shares how he got healthy through insight into his symptom pattern, and then developing and tweaking his own treatment protocol over the following years. </p>
<p>Erik also exposes the federal and local cover up of infamous illness outbreaks in Nevada. Erik tells how the Centre for Disease Control CDC) essentially invented the diagnosis of ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’ to explain the flu-like outbreaks. </p>
<p>Mix in big egos, financial interests, and sensationalist media, and that led to words and concepts being twisted so that a physical illness was downplayed, and mass hysteria up played.The CDC then became complicit in psychologizing the illness in an effort to throw more confusion around the cause of the outbreaks.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Erik was doing his own investigation of the outbreaks and realized that not only was there a viral aspect to ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’, but that exposure to toxic black mold - specifically Stachybotrys Chartarum - was a necessary element.</p>
<p>Yet, in spite of Erik’s - and their own - evidence, government and medical institutions did not want to research the role of toxic mold on human health. It is far less costly - for government, for health care, for the insurance and building industries - to label sick and disabled people as fakers and fraudsters, then to face the role toxic mold has on human health, and its implication in the emergence of ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
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<p>Autistic?</p>

0:06:40


Erik grew up in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, about 100 miles south of <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Tahoe'>Lake Tahoe</a> on a stage coach road in an old hotel that was a historic monument, unfortunately Erik had a terrible experience with toxic mold that made Erik very sick and could not recover - pretty much everything he's done is to get better from this toxic mold


0:08:10


In 1964 his family took over management of the hotel and Erik started to get nose bleeds, fatigue, blinding headaches, rashes, neurological problems - often resembling <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism'>autism</a> - he was in and out of hospitals, saw many doctors and none could figure it out - but Erik knew by getting away from the hotel he would feel better - in the summer he'd live in the buggy barn so his room was available for guests, so every summer he was like a normal kid with lots of energy - when he moved back into the hotel in the fall, he'd get sick again


0:09:10


Erik's family and doctor attributed his symptoms to psychological problems, developmental problems, suspected autism - Erik has been on a quest to find out how many others have been affected - in 1964 he read some <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain'>Mark Twain</a> books (including Roughing It) in which he describes this illness as people from the East moving for the Western cure in California or Nevada from what was then called 'consumption' - referred to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis'>tuberculosis</a> or any kind of wasting disease


0:10:40


Erik thinks many of the 'consumption' patients suffered from toxic mold - a Mark Twain character moved West to die, slept under the stars, started to feel better and climbed mountains - Twain quipped that 'he came West to die and made a poor job of it'


0:11:40


Erik realized when he was outside, his health improved so it was obvious to him that it was something in the hotel making him sick - when they expanded the hotel and cut through a wall that was insulated with newspapers that were covered in black mold - because the papers were so old, Erik tried to read them but completely collapsed


0:12:40


It was clear black mold was causing his symptoms - Erik was 8 years old when he figured it out - so he spent as much time outside the hotel as possible, but had to move back in for the winter months - it was devastating for him - his family moved to Lake Tahoe in the late 70s


0:13:40


But Erik experienced the same symptoms in his new school, especially the entrance - most people knew something was wrong, it was affecting a lot of teachers and students, and they learned to avoid the front entrance - Erik graduated and was still sick - turns out his school would be ground zero for the emergence of '<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome'>chronic fatigue syndrome</a>' - a cluster of teachers with rooms near the entrance got a flu-like illness, but could not recover
 

 
Toxic Mold in the Army


0:14:40


But the other teachers also got the flu, but they recovered - only teachers also exposed to black mold remained sick - it was <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truckee_High_School'>Truckee School</a> - subsequently a lot of work was done to clean up the school and it feels fine now to Erik


0:15:40


Erik realized he was being affected by a specific kind of mold no matter where he went - he thought joining the army would toughen him up by going through basic training with a physical life - he also wanted the adventure and hoped maybe the military would know how to deal with mold


0:16:40


Erik was overseas in a bunker built by Hitler - in 1976 the basement armory flooded and black mold grew on the cardboard and his entire unit got sick, including a couple of fatalities


0:17:40


The symptoms were the same Erik experienced in the old hotel - one guy who had hepatitis, it was reactivated and he died - several cases of cancer - they thought the staff sargeant had brain tumours and took him out on a stretcher and they never heard of him again


0:18:40


A swine flu hit his unit and made history because they were the first nuclear missile unit to be removed from active duty due to illness - it seemed obvious to Erik that the flu compounded with black mold exposure proved devastating


0:19:40


He would sneak out of the bunker at night to sleep outside - Erik got out of the army in 1978 because he couldn't face another situation where he had no control over escaping mold - he noticed a strange illness like his, move into the San Francisco Bay area


0:20:40


People would get the flu and not recover - Erik wanted to see if there was a connection to mold so he started going to their homes or workplace and indeed Erik would react to the mold - Erik had another black mold exposure and got very sick and couldn't function at work as a hang glider instructor


0:21:40


Erik was living in an RV and it got moldy - he was forced to move back in with his family in Lake Tahoe - his mother and brother physically carried him to a doctor's office, it turned out to be <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cheney'>Dr Paul Cheney</a>


0:22:40


Cheney took Erik's symptoms seriously but didn't have a clue to the cause - in 1984 Cheney suggested Erik go to a big clinic in Reno for testing - at the same time the worst flu they'd ever seen hit Lake Tahoe


0:23:40


The flu was so bad it got its own name, 'the Truckee crud' because it hit the town of Truckee before Lake Tahoe and <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/1984_Incline_Village_chronic_fatigue_syndrome_outbreak'>Incline Village</a> - when people didn't recover, Dr Cheney called the CDC (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention'>Centre for Disease Control</a>) because a group of Truckee teachers all in the same room did not recover
 

 
Sick Building Syndrome
 


0:24:40


Erik suggested to Dr Cheney to look into the mold - at same time another school and a casino had outbreaks, and the viral aspect was given more import and that's what Dr Cheney wanted to pursue


0:25:40


Erik went to the other locations and could feel the mold - Erik considers mold to be an important co-factor in maintaining illness - the CDC came but toxic mold had not been discovered on in the medical literature at that time - without an explanation for the sick buildings, the CDC created a new illness


0:26:40


Problem was the Tahoe flu was so severe and made so many sick as <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/hillary-johnson'>Hillary Johnson</a> describes in her book, the local Chamber of Commerce was being whipped out, in ruins, people were so scared they refused to come to Lake Tahoe, a tourist town, dependent on the ski industry - that disappeared, 1 of 6 businesses went bankrupt


0:27:40


People cancelled reservations, and Lake Tahoe became known as ground zero for this mystery illness - the Visitor's Bureau pressured the CDC to trivialize the outbreak so the tourists would return - this is why they chose the trivializing name 'chronic fatigue syndrome' and did not include any of the immune abnormalities - the NIH (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health'>National Institutes of Health</a>) and Dr Stephen Strauss were interested in the Lake Tahoe flu


0:28:40


NIH is National Institutes of Health and control funding for health research - when this strange illness was spreading through the US in the 80s, it reactivated <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Epstein-Barr_virus'>Epstein Barr Virus</a> (EBV), the 'kissing disease' - 96% of population has EBV - but testing was very crude in the 80s


0:29:40


Basically only showed if there was an elevation in EBV antibodies - Drs <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Peterson'>Peterson</a> and Cheney used this crude test and everybody came up negative, so it looked like EBV was ruled out for the Tahoe flu - but a new test became available and Drs Peterson and Cheney re-tested and found the patients did have elevated EBV antibodies


0:30:40


They called the CDC and said we erred, the patients do have EBV - Dr Gary Holmes said if this is true, the outbreak would completely re-write the profile of EBV because its acting contagious with a short incubation period - if it has mutated, needs to be researched


0:31:40


So the CDC was investigating if there was a new form of EBV causing the outbreak - people are confused about that, thinking the CDC was called for the mystery illness, but the CDC mission was very narrow re EBV - that's why they only wanted to look at the serology reports, not examine patients
 

 
Greatest Medical Error in their entire history
 


0:32:40


The results were confusing because some had elevated EBV but others did not - about 2/3 were a perfect fit for EBV, but 1/3 were not - Dr Holmes left and made an off-hand remark to a newspaper reporter that they were not seeing evidence of an epidemic


0:33:40


He was referring to an EBV epidemic, but the newspapers accused Drs Peterson and Cheney of creating hysteria - Dr Cheney told the newspapers the CDC was wrong and he's stand up in a court of law and prove it - an insult to Dr Holmes


0:34:40


So Cheney is fighting for his reputation, and Holmes feels insulted and refuses to return to Lake Tahoe - so 'chronic fatigue syndrome' grew out of a mistake, a misunderstanding of what Holmes of CDC was actually saying - Holmes acknowledged that people were actually sick - Erik said Holmes is one of the most maligned people


0:35:40


because the story got around that the CDC was trying to hide the illness - but that was not there goal at the time, that emerged later, but not due to Dr Holmes, he's actually a good guy 


0:36:40


About same time, Drs Peterson and Cheney sent blood to another lab and they found a new virus: HBLV - Human B-cell Lymphotropic Virus and renamed a few years later as <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_herpesvirus_6'>HHV6</a>-alpha, Human Herpes Virus 6 Alpha - an especially devastating neurotropic virus that was observed to wipe out B cells, the exact opposite of EBV


0:37:40


This explained why patients were negative on the crude test - this is described in <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/the-book'>Osler's Web</a>, the cytopathic effect - the CDC was concerned the HHV6-alpha was causing the outbreaks - same time as emerging <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS'>AIDS</a> pandemic - 'syndrome' was a scary word, associated with AIDS - so 'chronic fatigue syndrome' didn't seem so pejorative at the time


0:38:40


'Syndrome' signified unknowns to be investigated - but it became pejorative when paired with 'chronic fatigue' - as confusion spread, the fear of a 'syndrome' dissipated - it took about 6 years


0:39:40


Then 'chronic fatigue syndrome' became identified as middle aged women who couldn't get their life together - the media is responsible for 2 things: misinterpreting Dr Holmes, and propagating a negative narrative of CFS - the <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Holmes_criteria'>Holmes definition</a> of CFS specifically excludes psychiatric disease


0:40:40


But somehow the medical profession overlooked this - it is probably their greatest medical error in their entire history - has impacted millions of people globally
 

 
Covering up an outbreak
 


0:44:40


In April 1986, Dr Cheney called Erik into his office and he was very excited with Erik's test results, saying it was incredible


0:45:40


Erik was now EBV negative - but Erik was disappointed because it was thought EBV was the driving force behind CFS, and could be treated with cyclovir - so that removed Erik's option for treatment


0:46:40


Dr Cheney explained that the CDC working hypothesis was that the illness is caused by EBV and it is being reactivated by lifestyle factors, alcoholism, smoking, drugs - a wealthy Chicago entrepreneur had a daughter who was sick with the illness and he was trying to stop the CDC from blaming EBV, and Dr Cheney was looking for proof that EBV was not a factor in the illness


0:47:40


Dr Cheney wanted Erik's blood, so Erik was the first prototype for the new syndrome by using Erik's blood to demonstrate EBV was not necessary, but HHV6 was, and it is a much more scary virus - so if the CDC really wanted to clarify, they would've named it HBLV (later called HHV6) disease


0:48:30


Initially Erik didn't want to be involved, due to time and responsibility, but Dr Cheney said he had to because Erik was the only patient from original outbreak that was EBV negative and had a duty to the patient community - Erik said he couldn't because he also had a mold problem but Dr Cheney said not worry about that now


0:49:30


Erik continued to be concerned that his mold problem would corrupt Cheney's data - it then occurred to Erik that if all these clusters occurred in moldy buildings, it means mold is a critical factor in the illness, not a confounder - Erik agreed to participate on that basis


0:50:40


Erik didn't realize that no researchers would ever come back to investigate the outbreak - and the CDC was not interested in the mold / sick building factor - the CDC used the confusion to bury the Lake Tahoe outbreak, and keep it buried


0:51:40


For about 4 years the CDC wasn't sure it would work because it would just take one epidemiological researcher to find the truth - by 1992 the CDC saw the trivialization had worked perfectly so started working on their <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Fukuda_criteria'>Fukuda definition</a> of CFS to replace the Holmes definition - but why bother? The description and criteria was very similar. What was the point? 


0:52:40


The point was that the Fukuda definition wasn't based on a scary outbreak that could be identified - the whole point of redefining CFS was to put distance between CFS and the initial incident it was based on to keep it in maximum confusion - and loosened up on the psychiatric exclusion, whereas Holmes was clear that psychiatric must be excluded


 


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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eight year old Erik Johnson figured out what was making him very ill: the building his family lived in. But instead of listening to Erik, doctors gave him a psychological diagnosis - ‘maybe autism’ they said.</p>
<p>In part 1 of my interview with Erik, he shares how he got healthy through insight into his symptom pattern, and then developing and tweaking his own treatment protocol over the following years. </p>
<p>Erik also exposes the federal and local cover up of infamous illness outbreaks in Nevada. Erik tells how the Centre for Disease Control CDC) essentially invented the diagnosis of ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’ to explain the flu-like outbreaks. </p>
<p>Mix in big egos, financial interests, and sensationalist media, and that led to words and concepts being twisted so that a physical illness was downplayed, and mass hysteria up played.The CDC then became complicit in psychologizing the illness in an effort to throw more confusion around the cause of the outbreaks.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Erik was doing his own investigation of the outbreaks and realized that not only was there a viral aspect to ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’, but that exposure to toxic black mold - specifically Stachybotrys Chartarum - was a necessary element.</p>
<p>Yet, in spite of Erik’s - and their own - evidence, government and medical institutions did not want to research the role of toxic mold on human health. It is far less costly - for government, for health care, for the insurance and building industries - to label sick and disabled people as fakers and fraudsters, then to face the role toxic mold has on human health, and its implication in the emergence of ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p></p>
<p>Autistic?</p>

0:06:40


Erik grew up in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, about 100 miles south of <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Tahoe'>Lake Tahoe</a> on a stage coach road in an old hotel that was a historic monument, unfortunately Erik had a terrible experience with toxic mold that made Erik very sick and could not recover - pretty much everything he's done is to get better from this toxic mold


0:08:10


In 1964 his family took over management of the hotel and Erik started to get nose bleeds, fatigue, blinding headaches, rashes, neurological problems - often resembling <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism'>autism</a> - he was in and out of hospitals, saw many doctors and none could figure it out - but Erik knew by getting away from the hotel he would feel better - in the summer he'd live in the buggy barn so his room was available for guests, so every summer he was like a normal kid with lots of energy - when he moved back into the hotel in the fall, he'd get sick again


0:09:10


Erik's family and doctor attributed his symptoms to psychological problems, developmental problems, suspected autism - Erik has been on a quest to find out how many others have been affected - in 1964 he read some <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain'>Mark Twain</a> books (including Roughing It) in which he describes this illness as people from the East moving for the Western cure in California or Nevada from what was then called 'consumption' - referred to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis'>tuberculosis</a> or any kind of wasting disease


0:10:40


Erik thinks many of the 'consumption' patients suffered from toxic mold - a Mark Twain character moved West to die, slept under the stars, started to feel better and climbed mountains - Twain quipped that 'he came West to die and made a poor job of it'


0:11:40


Erik realized when he was outside, his health improved so it was obvious to him that it was something in the hotel making him sick - when they expanded the hotel and cut through a wall that was insulated with newspapers that were covered in black mold - because the papers were so old, Erik tried to read them but completely collapsed


0:12:40


It was clear black mold was causing his symptoms - Erik was 8 years old when he figured it out - so he spent as much time outside the hotel as possible, but had to move back in for the winter months - it was devastating for him - his family moved to Lake Tahoe in the late 70s


0:13:40


But Erik experienced the same symptoms in his new school, especially the entrance - most people knew something was wrong, it was affecting a lot of teachers and students, and they learned to avoid the front entrance - Erik graduated and was still sick - turns out his school would be ground zero for the emergence of '<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome'>chronic fatigue syndrome</a>' - a cluster of teachers with rooms near the entrance got a flu-like illness, but could not recover
 

 
Toxic Mold in the Army


0:14:40


But the other teachers also got the flu, but they recovered - only teachers also exposed to black mold remained sick - it was <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truckee_High_School'>Truckee School</a> - subsequently a lot of work was done to clean up the school and it feels fine now to Erik


0:15:40


Erik realized he was being affected by a specific kind of mold no matter where he went - he thought joining the army would toughen him up by going through basic training with a physical life - he also wanted the adventure and hoped maybe the military would know how to deal with mold


0:16:40


Erik was overseas in a bunker built by Hitler - in 1976 the basement armory flooded and black mold grew on the cardboard and his entire unit got sick, including a couple of fatalities


0:17:40


The symptoms were the same Erik experienced in the old hotel - one guy who had hepatitis, it was reactivated and he died - several cases of cancer - they thought the staff sargeant had brain tumours and took him out on a stretcher and they never heard of him again


0:18:40


A swine flu hit his unit and made history because they were the first nuclear missile unit to be removed from active duty due to illness - it seemed obvious to Erik that the flu compounded with black mold exposure proved devastating


0:19:40


He would sneak out of the bunker at night to sleep outside - Erik got out of the army in 1978 because he couldn't face another situation where he had no control over escaping mold - he noticed a strange illness like his, move into the San Francisco Bay area


0:20:40


People would get the flu and not recover - Erik wanted to see if there was a connection to mold so he started going to their homes or workplace and indeed Erik would react to the mold - Erik had another black mold exposure and got very sick and couldn't function at work as a hang glider instructor


0:21:40


Erik was living in an RV and it got moldy - he was forced to move back in with his family in Lake Tahoe - his mother and brother physically carried him to a doctor's office, it turned out to be <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cheney'>Dr Paul Cheney</a>


0:22:40


Cheney took Erik's symptoms seriously but didn't have a clue to the cause - in 1984 Cheney suggested Erik go to a big clinic in Reno for testing - at the same time the worst flu they'd ever seen hit Lake Tahoe


0:23:40


The flu was so bad it got its own name, 'the Truckee crud' because it hit the town of Truckee before Lake Tahoe and <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/1984_Incline_Village_chronic_fatigue_syndrome_outbreak'>Incline Village</a> - when people didn't recover, Dr Cheney called the CDC (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention'>Centre for Disease Control</a>) because a group of Truckee teachers all in the same room did not recover
 

 
Sick Building Syndrome
 


0:24:40


Erik suggested to Dr Cheney to look into the mold - at same time another school and a casino had outbreaks, and the viral aspect was given more import and that's what Dr Cheney wanted to pursue


0:25:40


Erik went to the other locations and could feel the mold - Erik considers mold to be an important co-factor in maintaining illness - the CDC came but toxic mold had not been discovered on in the medical literature at that time - without an explanation for the sick buildings, the CDC created a new illness


0:26:40


Problem was the Tahoe flu was so severe and made so many sick as <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/hillary-johnson'>Hillary Johnson</a> describes in her book, the local Chamber of Commerce was being whipped out, in ruins, people were so scared they refused to come to Lake Tahoe, a tourist town, dependent on the ski industry - that disappeared, 1 of 6 businesses went bankrupt


0:27:40


People cancelled reservations, and Lake Tahoe became known as ground zero for this mystery illness - the Visitor's Bureau pressured the CDC to trivialize the outbreak so the tourists would return - this is why they chose the trivializing name 'chronic fatigue syndrome' and did not include any of the immune abnormalities - the NIH (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health'>National Institutes of Health</a>) and Dr Stephen Strauss were interested in the Lake Tahoe flu


0:28:40


NIH is National Institutes of Health and control funding for health research - when this strange illness was spreading through the US in the 80s, it reactivated <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Epstein-Barr_virus'>Epstein Barr Virus</a> (EBV), the 'kissing disease' - 96% of population has EBV - but testing was very crude in the 80s


0:29:40


Basically only showed if there was an elevation in EBV antibodies - Drs <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Peterson'>Peterson</a> and Cheney used this crude test and everybody came up negative, so it looked like EBV was ruled out for the Tahoe flu - but a new test became available and Drs Peterson and Cheney re-tested and found the patients did have elevated EBV antibodies


0:30:40


They called the CDC and said we erred, the patients do have EBV - Dr Gary Holmes said if this is true, the outbreak would completely re-write the profile of EBV because its acting contagious with a short incubation period - if it has mutated, needs to be researched


0:31:40


So the CDC was investigating if there was a new form of EBV causing the outbreak - people are confused about that, thinking the CDC was called for the mystery illness, but the CDC mission was very narrow re EBV - that's why they only wanted to look at the serology reports, not examine patients
 

 
Greatest Medical Error in their entire history
 


0:32:40


The results were confusing because some had elevated EBV but others did not - about 2/3 were a perfect fit for EBV, but 1/3 were not - Dr Holmes left and made an off-hand remark to a newspaper reporter that they were not seeing evidence of an epidemic


0:33:40


He was referring to an EBV epidemic, but the newspapers accused Drs Peterson and Cheney of creating hysteria - Dr Cheney told the newspapers the CDC was wrong and he's stand up in a court of law and prove it - an insult to Dr Holmes


0:34:40


So Cheney is fighting for his reputation, and Holmes feels insulted and refuses to return to Lake Tahoe - so 'chronic fatigue syndrome' grew out of a mistake, a misunderstanding of what Holmes of CDC was actually saying - Holmes acknowledged that people were actually sick - Erik said Holmes is one of the most maligned people


0:35:40


because the story got around that the CDC was trying to hide the illness - but that was not there goal at the time, that emerged later, but not due to Dr Holmes, he's actually a good guy 


0:36:40


About same time, Drs Peterson and Cheney sent blood to another lab and they found a new virus: HBLV - Human B-cell Lymphotropic Virus and renamed a few years later as <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_herpesvirus_6'>HHV6</a>-alpha, Human Herpes Virus 6 Alpha - an especially devastating neurotropic virus that was observed to wipe out B cells, the exact opposite of EBV


0:37:40


This explained why patients were negative on the crude test - this is described in <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/the-book'>Osler's Web</a>, the cytopathic effect - the CDC was concerned the HHV6-alpha was causing the outbreaks - same time as emerging <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS'>AIDS</a> pandemic - 'syndrome' was a scary word, associated with AIDS - so 'chronic fatigue syndrome' didn't seem so pejorative at the time


0:38:40


'Syndrome' signified unknowns to be investigated - but it became pejorative when paired with 'chronic fatigue' - as confusion spread, the fear of a 'syndrome' dissipated - it took about 6 years


0:39:40


Then 'chronic fatigue syndrome' became identified as middle aged women who couldn't get their life together - the media is responsible for 2 things: misinterpreting Dr Holmes, and propagating a negative narrative of CFS - the <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Holmes_criteria'>Holmes definition</a> of CFS specifically excludes psychiatric disease


0:40:40


But somehow the medical profession overlooked this - it is probably their greatest medical error in their entire history - has impacted millions of people globally
 

 
Covering up an outbreak
 


0:44:40


In April 1986, Dr Cheney called Erik into his office and he was very excited with Erik's test results, saying it was incredible


0:45:40


Erik was now EBV negative - but Erik was disappointed because it was thought EBV was the driving force behind CFS, and could be treated with cyclovir - so that removed Erik's option for treatment


0:46:40


Dr Cheney explained that the CDC working hypothesis was that the illness is caused by EBV and it is being reactivated by lifestyle factors, alcoholism, smoking, drugs - a wealthy Chicago entrepreneur had a daughter who was sick with the illness and he was trying to stop the CDC from blaming EBV, and Dr Cheney was looking for proof that EBV was not a factor in the illness


0:47:40


Dr Cheney wanted Erik's blood, so Erik was the first prototype for the new syndrome by using Erik's blood to demonstrate EBV was not necessary, but HHV6 was, and it is a much more scary virus - so if the CDC really wanted to clarify, they would've named it HBLV (later called HHV6) disease


0:48:30


Initially Erik didn't want to be involved, due to time and responsibility, but Dr Cheney said he had to because Erik was the only patient from original outbreak that was EBV negative and had a duty to the patient community - Erik said he couldn't because he also had a mold problem but Dr Cheney said not worry about that now


0:49:30


Erik continued to be concerned that his mold problem would corrupt Cheney's data - it then occurred to Erik that if all these clusters occurred in moldy buildings, it means mold is a critical factor in the illness, not a confounder - Erik agreed to participate on that basis


0:50:40


Erik didn't realize that no researchers would ever come back to investigate the outbreak - and the CDC was not interested in the mold / sick building factor - the CDC used the confusion to bury the Lake Tahoe outbreak, and keep it buried


0:51:40


For about 4 years the CDC wasn't sure it would work because it would just take one epidemiological researcher to find the truth - by 1992 the CDC saw the trivialization had worked perfectly so started working on their <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Fukuda_criteria'>Fukuda definition</a> of CFS to replace the Holmes definition - but why bother? The description and criteria was very similar. What was the point? 


0:52:40


The point was that the Fukuda definition wasn't based on a scary outbreak that could be identified - the whole point of redefining CFS was to put distance between CFS and the initial incident it was based on to keep it in maximum confusion - and loosened up on the psychiatric exclusion, whereas Holmes was clear that psychiatric must be excluded


 


Part 2 of Erik's interview coming soon.
 
Connect with Erik Johnson:
 


Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/erikjohnsoneffect/?epa=SEARCH_BOX'>Erik Johnson Effect</a>


 


Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/erikmoldwarrior'>@ErikMoldWarrior</a>

 
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<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
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<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Eight year old Erik Johnson figured out what was making him very ill: the building his family lived in. But instead of listening to Erik, doctors gave him a psychological diagnosis - ‘maybe autism’ they said.
In part 1 of my interview with Erik, he shares how he got healthy through insight into his symptom pattern, and then developing and tweaking his own treatment protocol over the following years. 
Erik also exposes the federal and local cover up of infamous illness outbreaks in Nevada. Erik tells how the Centre for Disease Control CDC) essentially invented the diagnosis of ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’ to explain the flu-like outbreaks. 
Mix in big egos, financial interests, and sensationalist media, and that led to words and concepts being twisted so that a physical illness was downplayed, and mass hysteria up played.The CDC then became complicit in psychologizing the illness in an effort to throw more confusion around the cause of the outbreaks.
Meanwhile, Erik was doing his own investigation of the outbreaks and realized that not only was there a viral aspect to ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’, but that exposure to toxic black mold - specifically Stachybotrys Chartarum - was a necessary element.
Yet, in spite of Erik’s - and their own - evidence, government and medical institutions did not want to research the role of toxic mold on human health. It is far less costly - for government, for health care, for the insurance and building industries - to label sick and disabled people as fakers and fraudsters, then to face the role toxic mold has on human health, and its implication in the emergence of ‘chronic fatigue syndrome’.
SHOW NOTES

Autistic?

0:06:40


Erik grew up in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, about 100 miles south of Lake Tahoe on a stage coach road in an old hotel that was a historic monument, unfortunately Erik had a terrible experience with toxic mold that made Erik very sick and could not recover - pretty much everything he's done is to get better from this toxic mold


0:08:10


In 1964 his family took over management of the hotel and Erik started to get nose bleeds, fatigue, blinding headaches, rashes, neurological problems - often resembling autism - he was in and out of hospitals, saw many doctors and none could figure it out - but Erik knew by getting away from the hotel he would feel better - in the summer he'd live in the buggy barn so his room was available for guests, so every summer he was like a normal kid with lots of energy - when he moved back into the hotel in the fall, he'd get sick again


0:09:10


Erik's family and doctor attributed his symptoms to psychological problems, developmental problems, suspected autism - Erik has been on a quest to find out how many others have been affected - in 1964 he read some Mark Twain books (including Roughing It) in which he describes this illness as people from the East moving for the Western cure in California or Nevada from what was then called 'consumption' - referred to tuberculosis or any kind of wasting disease


0:10:40


Erik thinks many of the 'consumption' patients suffered from toxic mold - a Mark Twain character moved West to die, slept under the stars, started to feel better and climbed mountains - Twain quipped that 'he came West to die and made a poor job of it'


0:11:40


Erik realized when he was outside, his health improved so it was obvious to him that it was something in the hotel making him sick - when they expanded the hotel and cut through a wall that was insulated with newspapers that were covered in black mold - because the papers were so old, Erik tried to read them but completely collapsed


0:12:40


It was clear black mold was causing his symptoms - Erik was 8 years old when he figured it out - so he spent as much time outside the hotel as possible, but had to move back in for the winter months - it was devastating for him - his family moved to Lake Tahoe in the late 70s


0:13:40


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        <title>Andrea Carlomusto: Dental Damage by Devious Doctors for Pain and Profit</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Andrea Carlomusto is a fitness trainer in great physical shape, but it has been a tumultuous road to get her body in peak condition, with a detour through anorexia where she weighed as little as 55 pounds and doctors had given up and sent her home to die.</p>
<p>Due to her own research efforts, Andrea survived anorexia, but is now dealing with years of pain, looming bankruptcy, and crushing stress due to repeated dental errors that caused a stroke and pain so intense people commit suicide to escape it. Andrea has tried every avenue to get her teeth fixed, but meets successive roadblocks and dead ends.</p>
<p>It turns out dentists have little oversight and less accountability - some of them are going for a weekend course to learn dental procedures from  dubious dental teaching organizations, and then start practicing on unsuspecting patients, charging tens of thousands of dollars and causing permanent damage. </p>
<p>Andrea is one of an exploding number of people coming forward to share their dental nightmare experiences.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Opera and Anorexia</p>

0:05:30


Andrea grew up in Livonia, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit - family of 6, Dad an Italian immigrant - happy, artistic, encouraged to sign and dance, school a big focus, involved in sports - no coddling, and Andrea appreciates that - very straightforward family - after high school, Andrea moved to California with her band, but they decided to be actors instead - Andrea was homesick and returned to Michigan


0:07:30


Andrea considered the military - Andrea is also a singer and got a scholarship to college for opera singing and attended it in downtown Detroit, but lost the scholarship due to health issues - from age 8 Andrea had an eating eating disorder - in her early 20s she was as low as 55 pounds - it caused a lot of damage to the body - she couldn't walk, her family was waiting for her to die


0:08:30


Since she didn't have health insurance, she was put in the 'nutty bin', but they couldn't do much and sent Andrea home to die - but Andrea started researching to get herself better because she did not want to die - Andrea thinks it was a lack of control that caused her eating disorder, but it is complex


0:09:30


Focusing on the obsessive compulsive aspect rather than the 'I'm fat' aspect as Andrea never thought of herself as fat, she was playing mental games with herself that she took to far - she uses that insight to help her clients in her fitness biz - control issues, perfectionism, making every one happy, people pleasing are aspects


0:10:30


Poor diet, lack of calories plays with hormones and neurotransmitters contributes to mental health issues in eating disorders with a perfectionist attitude - Andrea has done a lot of research since because health care providers don't understand - they try to help, but there is not enough research - Andrea says there is a lot of lying and manipulating by patients, but people don't want to tackle that


0:11:30


Key to recovery is focusing on something healthy to obsess about - for Andrea it was research - and she loved fitness - and she loved life and wanted to experience as many things as she could, and that was the key to her recovery - eating healthy is easy now


0:12:30


Andrea doesn't have the same urges to diet, or the same thoughts when she looks in a mirror - since she's been at the edge of death, she never wants to go back there - the eating disorder for 20 years caused a lot of systemic effects in her body: hypertrophic heart, weak esophageal sphincter and scar tissue on her esophagus, anemia, endometriosis, can't have children - Andrea stopped going to doctors when she got herself better because they didn't understand eating disorders or the systemic effects
 

 
Botched surgery
 


0:14:30


Andrea was doing well until her body stopped urinating and passing bowel movements, very painful, went to ER and they said she had IBS, Andrea said she knows she has that, and these symptoms were not IBS - then they said she was constipated - Andrea told then no, her muscles were frozen down there, they won't move - she suffered for a year with many tests and they said they couldn't figure it out - they decided to give Andrea a hysterectomy


0:15:30


Sometimes endometriosis can 'strangle' organs in the abdomen - they said they would do 3 procedures but it was botched and Andrea experienced extreme pain, she thought she was in Hell - out of surgery, the stitches had already broken - they didn't remove all they said they would - they didn't give her antibiotics so she had multiple infections but they said Andrea was crazy, until they saw green oozing out her wound


0:16:30


Very difficult and painful - Andrea uses comedy to cope, make fun of herself, focus on clients to deal with pain - Andrea needs to keep it light, but it did affect her a lot - her weight lifters needed her for their safety, so Andrea had to refer a couple of clients to others - Andrea went to the gym to get her heart stronger as part of her recovery from the eating disorder - she had osteoporosis so started lifting weights and doing her own routine at the gym


0:18:30


The gym owner asked if she would like to teach a class - she liked it and went to school to become a Certified Personal Trainer - initially helping people with eating disorders, or rehab - then got into body builders as clients - now Andrea is known as the 'problem solving rehab chick' - she does a holistic approach to training


0:20:00


The day after surgery, Andrea had a healing abutment come out of her mouth - when she had recovered from the eating disorder, Andrea had her teeth looked at as they were damaged and had jaw pain that was misdiagnosed in multiple trips to the ER - turns out she had an abscess in her jaw, so had that taken care of - they implanted cadaver bone in her face because the bone deteriorated


0:21:30


Andrea was also given a full set of braces - fast forward again to just after abdominal surgery, when the implant abutment came out - Andrea contacted a dentist to just fix that and was back in surgery for the abutment - the dentist asked if she had considered getting more work done, but Andrea said 'no' 


0:22:30


But Andrea's best friend worked for the dentist and they said they would develop a care plan to protect her teeth - Andrea agreed but the dentist only worked on 1 tooth instead of 4, but adding 8mm to it and sent her home - Andrea couldn't eat, her jaw hurt, she couldn't speak, she was swallowing air and that would cause vomiting - the next day she asked the dentist to remove it and he refused, saying her symptoms were in her head, come back in a week



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<p>Getting dental work done</p>

0:24:30


She lost 7 pounds that week - he removed it but made a snide remark to her - since her best friend worked for him, and Andrea had already paid a lot of money, she ended up apologizing to the dentist - that calmed him down and he said he'd replace the old fillings in her mouth, even though they weren't a problem - but he dug too deep and Andrea needed root canals from a different dental provider, and paying for that


0:26:00


Andrea asked dentist (her best friend's employer) to put crowns on the abatements (little screws that hold an implant, then they put an artificial tooth on the abatement) - he said he wouldn't do that, but would correct the chip he caused on her front teeth when he used a material that broke her tooth, in spite of Andrea asking it it was safe


0:27:30


Andrea declined, she didn't want the risk of him correcting it 'wrong', causing more expense - but she did allow him to close the gap between her front 2 teeth, but then he said she needed 6 teeth done - Andrea was nervous and asked for a temporary mock up so she could ensure it fit properly so she could eat


0:29:00


The mock up felt great so she went in for the permanent procedure - it took 6 hours - as a result her bite was a bit elevated, but no swallowing or other problems - but she was spitting when she spoke because of little spaces, she reported it to the dentist and he laughed about it - Andrea asked for a retainer to hold her teeth in place because they shift quickly (result of eating disorder) - he spoke down to her, saying he'd do it, but she didn't need one


0:30:30


A week later she was back at the dentist so he could do las 10% of work and stop the spitting when talking - but he sanded down her teeth, therefore eliminating all the occlusion (little bumps on teeth that help with chewing and 's' sounds) - that caused her lower jaw to shift back in her head and her muscles had to hold her face forward so she could function - she couldn't chew properly and this caused digestion pain


0:31:30


When he eliminated her bite, things went really wrong - she was berated for a month - Andrea had her best friend (his employee) sit in on Andrea's appointments to witness - Andrea had excruciating pain, and was like biting a car battery, metal on metal - she couldn't sleep, headaches, jaw pain and still couldn't eat


0:32:30


Andrea asked him to reverse the procedure, and he said he couldn't, it was gone - Andrea was dumbfounded and asked him what he did - he left saying he had emergency at home and would see her in a few days, leaving Andrea in a bad condition - for the next month she had many procedures while being belittled by the dentist - he had Andrea thinking she was crazy, insinuating everything was in her head
 

 
Suspicions confirmed: Dental damage
 


0:33:30


Visits to the dentist caused distress, fear of what he was going to say to her - after a month, Andrea went to get a 2nd and 3rd opinion, and her suspicions were confirmed: the dentist has screwed up and it would take $30k to fix her teeth - the dentist didn't want to take responsibility for destroying her bite, denying she even had a bite - it was a huge slap in the face


0:34:30


Andrea plays dumb with dentist and doctors in spite of doing her own research because she's aware of the ego that sometimes goes with these professions - Andrea likes when her clients come to her with questions, but she's never encountered that in health care - with her eating disorder past, she is discounted as a hypochondriac, that's why she avoids doctors and dentists 


0:35:30


Andrea went to a couple of other dental providers, but they didn't know what to do - in December 2016 Andrea severed contact with that dentist - but she got back into the university dentistry in May 2017 - so she had to wait months while in pain, unable to eat, couldn't sleep, and had a nervous breakdown


0:37:30


Dental and health care providers were not listening to Andrea about the systemic effects of her past eating disorder - same with the folks at the university dentistry, they ignored all the health records Andrea brought - Andrea told them her jaw was unstable, but it took them 6 months to run the test to inform her that her jaw was unstable - so she had to needlessly endure pain for 6 months - she also told them her teeth were shifting, they ignored her, her teeth shifted so they had to remove more teeth, another $2,000 procedure


0:39:30


The university dentistry provided great service in 2008 - 09, but not this time - they retracted her gums and whittled away bone to try to make room for adjustments - Andrea had many stitches, another extraction and implant, and they put that in crooked - they whittled more away from her teeth, but that failed to allow product to fit and they tried to force it, hitting exposed nerves - so they put on temporary 'horse teeth' and Andrea can't eat or close her mouth


0:41:00


Andrea demanded they revert back to the original mold of her teeth - Andrea's fiancee took her to a dentist in Minnesota, and that dentist was appalled and told Andrea to see a specific specialist with specific skills in Michigan


0:42:30


Andrea found a specialist, who was also an instructor - 'occlusion' is how your teeth fit together in a bite - 'TMJ' dysfunction can happen when the joint is under stress - a complex condition - Andrea is in contact with organizations doing this type of research - and is very outspoken about her experience


0:45:00


Andrea met with the expert specialist in her area and he listened to her experience, or so she thought - he assured Andrea that he had a fool proof way to help her using a computer to measure her mouth - Andrea was thorough and asked a lot of questions - insurance would not cover the cost
 

 
'Suicide neuralgia' and stroke
 


0:46:30


The 1st step was to put a fixed retainer on her lower teeth to relieve TMJ pain, it was not removable - the computer was supposed to actually measure her mouth for the retainer, but it failed multiple times to find Andrea's natural mouth position - they finally took a measurement and she was told to come back in a week for the upper teeth


0:48:30


But the lower retainer was turned out to be twice as large as supposed to be, she could not shut her mouth, or eat, or talk - Andrea is still trying to work during all this - over next 8 months she had many procedures, told she had 2 root canals, but found out later it was only 1, and that would explain the pain - she was charged for x-rays they never turned out, so they missed the infections - ended up in ER for dental pain, hard to breathing, seeing, dizzy and was diagnosed with transient Ischemic stroke


0:50:30


Andrea went to the specialist 2 days later and they said she needed a root canal - Andrea had immense pain from the lower retainer and they had to rip it out - then Andrea developed searing pain up into her head, her eye wouldn't open - the dental specialist repeated the procedure, causing even more pain, causing another trip to the ER when it felt like she was being stabbed in the brain


0:52:30


Andrea went to a neurologist and was diagnosed with trigeminal neuralgia, a cranial nerve that controls feeling and movement in the face - also called 'suicide neuralgia' - the pain was constant and no medication had any effect - but the dental specialist then said the there is no such thing as trigeminal neuralgia, and that her pain was TMJ - Andrea couldn't eat so had to get calories from liquids, soft foods - it was torture


0:54:00


Andrea convinced him to use her original mold, but that didn't work - he kept making and ripping out retainers, causing intense nerve pain, but she couldn't take more pain meds because of her heart problems due to prior eating disorder - if only they would listen to patients - but she had over 2 dozen teeth ripped out with lots of pain - the neurologist then also diagnosed occipital neuralgia


0:55:30


As a result of all these botched procedures, Andrea's spine had become misshapen causing more pain - Andrea is managing pain and working - Andrea returned to the dental specialist many times and asked him to confer with Minnesota dentist, with neurologist, but he refused - Andrea was left with jagged metal in her mouth, puncturing her cheeks, making her gums bleed, and excruciating pain
 

 
Box of teeth
 


0:57:30


Andrea emailed the dentist and demanded a refund - a week later she got a box of teeth in the mail - Andrea called the dental manufacturer but they refused to release her records, only the dentist could get that info - she would have to sue to get her records - in the box of teeth was also a letter saying she would not get a refund as her case is finished - Andrea took the box of teeth to the Minnesota dentist who recommended the dental specialist


0:59:00


The Minnesota dentist was empathic, shocked by the box of teeth, showed it to his colleague - they gave Andrea 4 root canals - whereas the dental specialist in Michigan wanted to put permanent dentures on top of the dead teeth he caused - the box of teeth is evidence, this is going to court - Andrea is trying to figure out the ethics of health care professionals


1:01:30


The take away from her experience, is that health care professionals need to listen, and treat people how you want to be treated - but the egos, and fear of lawsuits get in the way - a lot of professionals act like what they say is law - it was 3 solid years of misdiagnosis, fail to diagnosis, unnecessary procedures and surgeries - the number of medical errors she's endured is insane


1:03:00


Andrea didn't go to a doctor for years, just listened to her body - the best doctors Andrea ever had were the ones who said 'I don't know, but I'll figure it out' - that instilled trust and more like a team - one of the doctors said he knew very little about eating disorders, that Andrea would have to teach him - she trusted and opened up to him - more team work is needed in health care - informed consent is important, but Andrea wasn't afforded that


1:04:30


Patients lose time, money, energy - dentists don't - they should concentrate on patient care, not covering up their mistakes - Andrea has spent close to $100k and is still no closer to being better - the Minnesota dentist has helped so Andrea can eat and sleep - but the last procedure it the hardest - Andrea had worked hard to go from anorexic and homeless to a healthy gym owner and had no money left, but the dentist wanted $50k to fix her


1:06:30


The manager of the dental office applied for a $25k loan for Andrea without her knowledge - they had her sign some papers, later found out it allowed them to take the $25k in one day without doing any work - 8 months later Andrea is worse and the work still not done and Andrea is facing bankruptcy - recently an entire dental board resigned over corruption, and a lot of those dentists trained at the same place as Andrea's harmful dentist


1:08:30


Andrea is in contact with other dental victims, some with worse experiences - but they are teaching these procedures to over-drill and over treat healthy teeth - dentists fly in from all over the world to learn these uncredentialled procedures - the boards and powers that be know this and need to take action


1:10:30


These experiences have turned Andrea into an advocate - speaking at Washington DC and recognized in Michigan on Eating Disorders Awareness week - Andrea has a small group of folks with dental injury who support each other
 

 
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Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/AndeCarlomusto'>@AndeCarlomusto</a>


 


Website: http://rx-training.com


 


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<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrea Carlomusto is a fitness trainer in great physical shape, but it has been a tumultuous road to get her body in peak condition, with a detour through anorexia where she weighed as little as 55 pounds and doctors had given up and sent her home to die.</p>
<p>Due to her own research efforts, Andrea survived anorexia, but is now dealing with years of pain, looming bankruptcy, and crushing stress due to repeated dental errors that caused a stroke and pain so intense people commit suicide to escape it. Andrea has tried every avenue to get her teeth fixed, but meets successive roadblocks and dead ends.</p>
<p>It turns out dentists have little oversight and less accountability - some of them are going for a weekend course to learn dental procedures from  dubious dental teaching organizations, and then start practicing on unsuspecting patients, charging tens of thousands of dollars and causing permanent damage. </p>
<p>Andrea is one of an exploding number of people coming forward to share their dental nightmare experiences.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Opera and Anorexia</p>

0:05:30


Andrea grew up in Livonia, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit - family of 6, Dad an Italian immigrant - happy, artistic, encouraged to sign and dance, school a big focus, involved in sports - no coddling, and Andrea appreciates that - very straightforward family - after high school, Andrea moved to California with her band, but they decided to be actors instead - Andrea was homesick and returned to Michigan


0:07:30


Andrea considered the military - Andrea is also a singer and got a scholarship to college for opera singing and attended it in downtown Detroit, but lost the scholarship due to health issues - from age 8 Andrea had an eating eating disorder - in her early 20s she was as low as 55 pounds - it caused a lot of damage to the body - she couldn't walk, her family was waiting for her to die


0:08:30


Since she didn't have health insurance, she was put in the 'nutty bin', but they couldn't do much and sent Andrea home to die - but Andrea started researching to get herself better because she did not want to die - Andrea thinks it was a lack of control that caused her eating disorder, but it is complex


0:09:30


Focusing on the obsessive compulsive aspect rather than the 'I'm fat' aspect as Andrea never thought of herself as fat, she was playing mental games with herself that she took to far - she uses that insight to help her clients in her fitness biz - control issues, perfectionism, making every one happy, people pleasing are aspects


0:10:30


Poor diet, lack of calories plays with hormones and neurotransmitters contributes to mental health issues in eating disorders with a perfectionist attitude - Andrea has done a lot of research since because health care providers don't understand - they try to help, but there is not enough research - Andrea says there is a lot of lying and manipulating by patients, but people don't want to tackle that


0:11:30


Key to recovery is focusing on something healthy to obsess about - for Andrea it was research - and she loved fitness - and she loved life and wanted to experience as many things as she could, and that was the key to her recovery - eating healthy is easy now


0:12:30


Andrea doesn't have the same urges to diet, or the same thoughts when she looks in a mirror - since she's been at the edge of death, she never wants to go back there - the eating disorder for 20 years caused a lot of systemic effects in her body: hypertrophic heart, weak esophageal sphincter and scar tissue on her esophagus, anemia, endometriosis, can't have children - Andrea stopped going to doctors when she got herself better because they didn't understand eating disorders or the systemic effects
 

 
Botched surgery
 


0:14:30


Andrea was doing well until her body stopped urinating and passing bowel movements, very painful, went to ER and they said she had IBS, Andrea said she knows she has that, and these symptoms were not IBS - then they said she was constipated - Andrea told then no, her muscles were frozen down there, they won't move - she suffered for a year with many tests and they said they couldn't figure it out - they decided to give Andrea a hysterectomy


0:15:30


Sometimes endometriosis can 'strangle' organs in the abdomen - they said they would do 3 procedures but it was botched and Andrea experienced extreme pain, she thought she was in Hell - out of surgery, the stitches had already broken - they didn't remove all they said they would - they didn't give her antibiotics so she had multiple infections but they said Andrea was crazy, until they saw green oozing out her wound


0:16:30


Very difficult and painful - Andrea uses comedy to cope, make fun of herself, focus on clients to deal with pain - Andrea needs to keep it light, but it did affect her a lot - her weight lifters needed her for their safety, so Andrea had to refer a couple of clients to others - Andrea went to the gym to get her heart stronger as part of her recovery from the eating disorder - she had osteoporosis so started lifting weights and doing her own routine at the gym


0:18:30


The gym owner asked if she would like to teach a class - she liked it and went to school to become a Certified Personal Trainer - initially helping people with eating disorders, or rehab - then got into body builders as clients - now Andrea is known as the 'problem solving rehab chick' - she does a holistic approach to training


0:20:00


The day after surgery, Andrea had a healing abutment come out of her mouth - when she had recovered from the eating disorder, Andrea had her teeth looked at as they were damaged and had jaw pain that was misdiagnosed in multiple trips to the ER - turns out she had an abscess in her jaw, so had that taken care of - they implanted cadaver bone in her face because the bone deteriorated


0:21:30


Andrea was also given a full set of braces - fast forward again to just after abdominal surgery, when the implant abutment came out - Andrea contacted a dentist to just fix that and was back in surgery for the abutment - the dentist asked if she had considered getting more work done, but Andrea said 'no' 


0:22:30


But Andrea's best friend worked for the dentist and they said they would develop a care plan to protect her teeth - Andrea agreed but the dentist only worked on 1 tooth instead of 4, but adding 8mm to it and sent her home - Andrea couldn't eat, her jaw hurt, she couldn't speak, she was swallowing air and that would cause vomiting - the next day she asked the dentist to remove it and he refused, saying her symptoms were in her head, come back in a week



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<p>Getting dental work done</p>

0:24:30


She lost 7 pounds that week - he removed it but made a snide remark to her - since her best friend worked for him, and Andrea had already paid a lot of money, she ended up apologizing to the dentist - that calmed him down and he said he'd replace the old fillings in her mouth, even though they weren't a problem - but he dug too deep and Andrea needed root canals from a different dental provider, and paying for that


0:26:00


Andrea asked dentist (her best friend's employer) to put crowns on the abatements (little screws that hold an implant, then they put an artificial tooth on the abatement) - he said he wouldn't do that, but would correct the chip he caused on her front teeth when he used a material that broke her tooth, in spite of Andrea asking it it was safe


0:27:30


Andrea declined, she didn't want the risk of him correcting it 'wrong', causing more expense - but she did allow him to close the gap between her front 2 teeth, but then he said she needed 6 teeth done - Andrea was nervous and asked for a temporary mock up so she could ensure it fit properly so she could eat


0:29:00


The mock up felt great so she went in for the permanent procedure - it took 6 hours - as a result her bite was a bit elevated, but no swallowing or other problems - but she was spitting when she spoke because of little spaces, she reported it to the dentist and he laughed about it - Andrea asked for a retainer to hold her teeth in place because they shift quickly (result of eating disorder) - he spoke down to her, saying he'd do it, but she didn't need one


0:30:30


A week later she was back at the dentist so he could do las 10% of work and stop the spitting when talking - but he sanded down her teeth, therefore eliminating all the occlusion (little bumps on teeth that help with chewing and 's' sounds) - that caused her lower jaw to shift back in her head and her muscles had to hold her face forward so she could function - she couldn't chew properly and this caused digestion pain


0:31:30


When he eliminated her bite, things went really wrong - she was berated for a month - Andrea had her best friend (his employee) sit in on Andrea's appointments to witness - Andrea had excruciating pain, and was like biting a car battery, metal on metal - she couldn't sleep, headaches, jaw pain and still couldn't eat


0:32:30


Andrea asked him to reverse the procedure, and he said he couldn't, it was gone - Andrea was dumbfounded and asked him what he did - he left saying he had emergency at home and would see her in a few days, leaving Andrea in a bad condition - for the next month she had many procedures while being belittled by the dentist - he had Andrea thinking she was crazy, insinuating everything was in her head
 

 
Suspicions confirmed: Dental damage
 


0:33:30


Visits to the dentist caused distress, fear of what he was going to say to her - after a month, Andrea went to get a 2nd and 3rd opinion, and her suspicions were confirmed: the dentist has screwed up and it would take $30k to fix her teeth - the dentist didn't want to take responsibility for destroying her bite, denying she even had a bite - it was a huge slap in the face


0:34:30


Andrea plays dumb with dentist and doctors in spite of doing her own research because she's aware of the ego that sometimes goes with these professions - Andrea likes when her clients come to her with questions, but she's never encountered that in health care - with her eating disorder past, she is discounted as a hypochondriac, that's why she avoids doctors and dentists 


0:35:30


Andrea went to a couple of other dental providers, but they didn't know what to do - in December 2016 Andrea severed contact with that dentist - but she got back into the university dentistry in May 2017 - so she had to wait months while in pain, unable to eat, couldn't sleep, and had a nervous breakdown


0:37:30


Dental and health care providers were not listening to Andrea about the systemic effects of her past eating disorder - same with the folks at the university dentistry, they ignored all the health records Andrea brought - Andrea told them her jaw was unstable, but it took them 6 months to run the test to inform her that her jaw was unstable - so she had to needlessly endure pain for 6 months - she also told them her teeth were shifting, they ignored her, her teeth shifted so they had to remove more teeth, another $2,000 procedure


0:39:30


The university dentistry provided great service in 2008 - 09, but not this time - they retracted her gums and whittled away bone to try to make room for adjustments - Andrea had many stitches, another extraction and implant, and they put that in crooked - they whittled more away from her teeth, but that failed to allow product to fit and they tried to force it, hitting exposed nerves - so they put on temporary 'horse teeth' and Andrea can't eat or close her mouth


0:41:00


Andrea demanded they revert back to the original mold of her teeth - Andrea's fiancee took her to a dentist in Minnesota, and that dentist was appalled and told Andrea to see a specific specialist with specific skills in Michigan


0:42:30


Andrea found a specialist, who was also an instructor - 'occlusion' is how your teeth fit together in a bite - 'TMJ' dysfunction can happen when the joint is under stress - a complex condition - Andrea is in contact with organizations doing this type of research - and is very outspoken about her experience


0:45:00


Andrea met with the expert specialist in her area and he listened to her experience, or so she thought - he assured Andrea that he had a fool proof way to help her using a computer to measure her mouth - Andrea was thorough and asked a lot of questions - insurance would not cover the cost
 

 
'Suicide neuralgia' and stroke
 


0:46:30


The 1st step was to put a fixed retainer on her lower teeth to relieve TMJ pain, it was not removable - the computer was supposed to actually measure her mouth for the retainer, but it failed multiple times to find Andrea's natural mouth position - they finally took a measurement and she was told to come back in a week for the upper teeth


0:48:30


But the lower retainer was turned out to be twice as large as supposed to be, she could not shut her mouth, or eat, or talk - Andrea is still trying to work during all this - over next 8 months she had many procedures, told she had 2 root canals, but found out later it was only 1, and that would explain the pain - she was charged for x-rays they never turned out, so they missed the infections - ended up in ER for dental pain, hard to breathing, seeing, dizzy and was diagnosed with transient Ischemic stroke


0:50:30


Andrea went to the specialist 2 days later and they said she needed a root canal - Andrea had immense pain from the lower retainer and they had to rip it out - then Andrea developed searing pain up into her head, her eye wouldn't open - the dental specialist repeated the procedure, causing even more pain, causing another trip to the ER when it felt like she was being stabbed in the brain


0:52:30


Andrea went to a neurologist and was diagnosed with trigeminal neuralgia, a cranial nerve that controls feeling and movement in the face - also called 'suicide neuralgia' - the pain was constant and no medication had any effect - but the dental specialist then said the there is no such thing as trigeminal neuralgia, and that her pain was TMJ - Andrea couldn't eat so had to get calories from liquids, soft foods - it was torture


0:54:00


Andrea convinced him to use her original mold, but that didn't work - he kept making and ripping out retainers, causing intense nerve pain, but she couldn't take more pain meds because of her heart problems due to prior eating disorder - if only they would listen to patients - but she had over 2 dozen teeth ripped out with lots of pain - the neurologist then also diagnosed occipital neuralgia


0:55:30


As a result of all these botched procedures, Andrea's spine had become misshapen causing more pain - Andrea is managing pain and working - Andrea returned to the dental specialist many times and asked him to confer with Minnesota dentist, with neurologist, but he refused - Andrea was left with jagged metal in her mouth, puncturing her cheeks, making her gums bleed, and excruciating pain
 

 
Box of teeth
 


0:57:30


Andrea emailed the dentist and demanded a refund - a week later she got a box of teeth in the mail - Andrea called the dental manufacturer but they refused to release her records, only the dentist could get that info - she would have to sue to get her records - in the box of teeth was also a letter saying she would not get a refund as her case is finished - Andrea took the box of teeth to the Minnesota dentist who recommended the dental specialist


0:59:00


The Minnesota dentist was empathic, shocked by the box of teeth, showed it to his colleague - they gave Andrea 4 root canals - whereas the dental specialist in Michigan wanted to put permanent dentures on top of the dead teeth he caused - the box of teeth is evidence, this is going to court - Andrea is trying to figure out the ethics of health care professionals


1:01:30


The take away from her experience, is that health care professionals need to listen, and treat people how you want to be treated - but the egos, and fear of lawsuits get in the way - a lot of professionals act like what they say is law - it was 3 solid years of misdiagnosis, fail to diagnosis, unnecessary procedures and surgeries - the number of medical errors she's endured is insane


1:03:00


Andrea didn't go to a doctor for years, just listened to her body - the best doctors Andrea ever had were the ones who said 'I don't know, but I'll figure it out' - that instilled trust and more like a team - one of the doctors said he knew very little about eating disorders, that Andrea would have to teach him - she trusted and opened up to him - more team work is needed in health care - informed consent is important, but Andrea wasn't afforded that


1:04:30


Patients lose time, money, energy - dentists don't - they should concentrate on patient care, not covering up their mistakes - Andrea has spent close to $100k and is still no closer to being better - the Minnesota dentist has helped so Andrea can eat and sleep - but the last procedure it the hardest - Andrea had worked hard to go from anorexic and homeless to a healthy gym owner and had no money left, but the dentist wanted $50k to fix her


1:06:30


The manager of the dental office applied for a $25k loan for Andrea without her knowledge - they had her sign some papers, later found out it allowed them to take the $25k in one day without doing any work - 8 months later Andrea is worse and the work still not done and Andrea is facing bankruptcy - recently an entire dental board resigned over corruption, and a lot of those dentists trained at the same place as Andrea's harmful dentist


1:08:30


Andrea is in contact with other dental victims, some with worse experiences - but they are teaching these procedures to over-drill and over treat healthy teeth - dentists fly in from all over the world to learn these uncredentialled procedures - the boards and powers that be know this and need to take action


1:10:30


These experiences have turned Andrea into an advocate - speaking at Washington DC and recognized in Michigan on Eating Disorders Awareness week - Andrea has a small group of folks with dental injury who support each other
 

 
Connect with Andrea Carlomusto:
 


Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/AndeCarlomusto'>@AndeCarlomusto</a>


 


Website: http://rx-training.com


 


<a href='https://www.instagram.com/acmusto/?hl=en'>Instagram</a>


 


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Due to her own research efforts, Andrea survived anorexia, but is now dealing with years of pain, looming bankruptcy, and crushing stress due to repeated dental errors that caused a stroke and pain so intense people commit suicide to escape it. Andrea has tried every avenue to get her teeth fixed, but meets successive roadblocks and dead ends.
It turns out dentists have little oversight and less accountability - some of them are going for a weekend course to learn dental procedures from  dubious dental teaching organizations, and then start practicing on unsuspecting patients, charging tens of thousands of dollars and causing permanent damage. 
Andrea is one of an exploding number of people coming forward to share their dental nightmare experiences.

Opera and Anorexia

0:05:30


Andrea grew up in Livonia, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit - family of 6, Dad an Italian immigrant - happy, artistic, encouraged to sign and dance, school a big focus, involved in sports - no coddling, and Andrea appreciates that - very straightforward family - after high school, Andrea moved to California with her band, but they decided to be actors instead - Andrea was homesick and returned to Michigan


0:07:30


Andrea considered the military - Andrea is also a singer and got a scholarship to college for opera singing and attended it in downtown Detroit, but lost the scholarship due to health issues - from age 8 Andrea had an eating eating disorder - in her early 20s she was as low as 55 pounds - it caused a lot of damage to the body - she couldn't walk, her family was waiting for her to die


0:08:30


Since she didn't have health insurance, she was put in the 'nutty bin', but they couldn't do much and sent Andrea home to die - but Andrea started researching to get herself better because she did not want to die - Andrea thinks it was a lack of control that caused her eating disorder, but it is complex


0:09:30


Focusing on the obsessive compulsive aspect rather than the 'I'm fat' aspect as Andrea never thought of herself as fat, she was playing mental games with herself that she took to far - she uses that insight to help her clients in her fitness biz - control issues, perfectionism, making every one happy, people pleasing are aspects


0:10:30


Poor diet, lack of calories plays with hormones and neurotransmitters contributes to mental health issues in eating disorders with a perfectionist attitude - Andrea has done a lot of research since because health care providers don't understand - they try to help, but there is not enough research - Andrea says there is a lot of lying and manipulating by patients, but people don't want to tackle that


0:11:30


Key to recovery is focusing on something healthy to obsess about - for Andrea it was research - and she loved fitness - and she loved life and wanted to experience as many things as she could, and that was the key to her recovery - eating healthy is easy now


0:12:30


Andrea doesn't have the same urges to diet, or the same thoughts when she looks in a mirror - since she's been at the edge of death, she never wants to go back there - the eating disorder for 20 years caused a lot of systemic effects in her body: hypertrophic heart, weak esophageal sphincter and scar tissue on her esophagus, anemia, endometriosis, can't have children - Andrea stopped going to doctors when she got herself better because they didn't understand eating disorders or the systemic effects
 

 
Botched surgery
 


0:14:30


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Nurse and medical educator Steve Turner talks about the medical errors he’s witnessed - and participated in - and how being a health care whistleblower is likely to get you fired from your job and blacklisted from future opportunities.</p>
<p>Steve also talks about the tragic and needless death of Oliver McGowan who was killed by multiple health care workers who failed to listen to him. Steve also shares how the paternalistic physician culture has baked-in arrogance, and that in and of itself, is a medical error.</p>
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<p>Mental Health Nurse</p>

0:05:00


Steve grew up in Stafford, England - a happy childhood, with one brother - moved to Rugby when he was 17 and he had been doing poorly at school but then started to think about his future - Steve did not know what he wanted to do, but because his friend's father was a psychiatrist, and Steve grandfather had mental health issues, he was drawn to that field - but worked in a restaurant in Coventry and met some Australians working there


0:07:00


Steve then moved to Shepparton, Australia on a work holiday - Steve had a wonderful experience, working in bars, fruit picking and other casual labour - Australia was booming while the UK experienced 'the winter of discontent' - that 10 years traveling and working in Australia provided more experience to draw on than any training course - have to rely on your wits, meet a variety of people - when he later became a mental health nurse, he'd already come across mental health issues from his experiences


0:09:00


Steve always thought he wanted to do nursing, had realized he couldn't be a casual, traveling worker forever - he was accepted by St Georges in London, UK - Steve did general nursing followed by specialty in mental health nursing - drawn to it in part because his grandfather spent his life in a mental hospital and died there


0:11:00


Steve was attracted to the physical and mental health of a person, to look after the whole person - when Steve first started, he worked in a large acute ward with 40 beds - it wasn't a kind environment, but the people he worked with were good - Steve was interested in community mental health, and there were a few teams at that time - when Steve returned to nursing in 2002, he recognized how much things had changed


0:13:00


After nursing for a few years, Steve started to work for US company SMS in the UK - they provided IT services to health care and Steve thought he'd work for them for 6 months but stayed to 10 years working on clinical systems and became a senior consultant - working on 'clinical systems' meant he spent a lot of time on wards and with doctors - Steve also specialized in clinical governance showing the clinical credibility of the system


0:14:45


Steve tweets and talks about medical errors a lot - the 1980s things were different, a lot of shocking things - Steve worked on a ward where one doctor would not tell cancer patients they had cancer, something that wouldn't happen now - Steve has seen medical errors happen and 1 doctor say another is responsible, but nothing came of it - there was no structure to deal with it - doctors and nurses were a law unto themselves
 

 
Arrogance and Paternalism
 


0:15:30


A recent case in the UK where a doctor didn't tell a patient a cancer diagnosis and that has hit the headlines - Steve thinks it is arrogance - but often patients would ask nurses for the truth and would be told - the kindest way to describe doctors holding back a diagnosis is paternalism, "I'm the doctor, your the patient, I know what's best for you' - still common unfortunately


0:17:00


After 10 years in IT, Steve returned to nursing in 2002 - worked for local 'assertive outreach team' to work with people who have been labeled 'hard to engage' but Steve said its the services that are hard to engage - working with people that are marginalized, they had more freedom to try different approaches and had a lighter case load


0:18:30


Steve worked with people who took street drugs - his approach was to include their drug use in their recovery plan - they would try to find what worked with each person - Steve had seen a lot of meds given to people to sedate them - sometimes meds just made people look like they were better to the clinicians, but they actually felt terrible


0:20:00


Steve would ask his clients 'what would help?' - Steve had to build trusting relationships - he spent 3 months talking through a door crack before one client let him in - one client told Steve he appreciated being treated like an ordinary person, this was the best compliment Steve received


0:21:45


Sedating patients and giving information are both medical error, and can lead to harm - there's a lot of research showing antipsychotics and how they make patients look like they're better, but they're not - arrogance is a medical error - for mental health, health care workers can persuade people to do things that are wrong for them


0:23:00


In the UK, the mental health act, to lock someone away, a mental health assessment is undertaken and different people do the assessment and recommendation - there is a big legal process, it doesn't always work well and some people have been 'sectioned' (locked away against their will) when they shouldn't be - Steve has seen people sectioned inappropriately


0:24:00


Steve thinks one person was sectioned because he was Spanish - this person had an English accent but was raised in Spain and had Spanish expressiveness, and that is why he was sectioned - on the other hand, Steve has seen some really ill people who initiated a mental health assessment, and he was very worried they would not be sectioned because they were such a risk to themselves
 

 
Oliver's Campaign
 


0:26:00


Steve is starting to learn more about the shocking situations where the parent, usually mother, is accused of 'fabricating or inducing illness' on their ill child - also called '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder_imposed_on_another'>Munchausen by Proxy</a>' - in children with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) / chronic fatigue syndrome, the blame shifts to the parents and that happens a lot - Steve has worked in situations where the mother is ignored and labeled as 'difficult'


0:27:15


The case of Oliver McGowan, he had mild autism and a learning disability - the state thinking it knows better than the parents is a huge issue in the UK - Oliver was 18 years old and died 2 years ago in hospital - he occasionally had seizures, and would be a bit agitated as he came out of it - they were investigating his seizures - he had been mistakenly sectioned


0:28:30


2 years ago he had a seizure and was admitted to hospital and was ventilated so they could do a brain scan - in the past, Oliver had been given antipsychotic meds and he always had an adverse reaction to them - at one point he had a dystonic reaction - an oculargyric crisis (reaction to certain drugs or medical conditions characterized by a prolonged involuntary upward deviation of the eyes) - extremely frightening as your eyes roll back and you can't move


0:29:00


Other antipsychotic meds made Oliver feel like there were flies buzzing around in his head - Oliver was never psychotic - Oliver had a care plan that said not to give him antipsychotics - in the ambulance on the way to hospital he said 'please don't give me antipsychotics' - Oliver told staff again at the hospital and it was written on his drug chart in red ink


0:30:00


But he was given antipsychotics and died from neuroleptic malignancy syndrome, a rare but fatal reaction to antipsychotics - his mother Paula has campaigned for training in hospitals for all staff on disabilities and autism - just started rolling out Oliver's Campaign is hashtag (<a href='https://twitter.com/CampaignOlivers'>#OliversCampaign</a>)


0:31:30


Doctors are duty bound to take the patients best interest decision by taking everyone's views into consideration and document it, but that wasn't done


0:32:30


Steve had a whistleblower experience - it is not just a hospital problem, it is society wide - when Steve left the NHS in 2006 he had some recommendations - the team he worked for was being disbanded, yet produced good service - Steve wrote a letter using the formal grievance procedure - but Steve deliberately copied the letter to one of the general practitioners the team worked with very closely 


0:33:30


Steve was suspended - Steve thought, 'if you try to change things with a reasonable letter, and then you get suspended for 6 weeks' - he didn't want to work for that kind of organization - Steve became an independent consultant and got hired back by the same people for another 5 years - but in the NHS, people who speak out are ostracized
 

 
Whistleblowing
 


0:34:30


Eventually Steve lost all his work when he made a Protected Disclosure to the Quality Care Commission (QCC) about changing reports, bullying of staff - Steve had been hired to train nurses - he gave them an exam at the end because he knew they didn't know what they were training - suddenly they only wanted him to do the exam, not the training - Steve said these new graduates would fail his exam without training


0:35:30


There was an external review of Steve's complaints but he's never heard about it since - although they interviewed Steve, he's never seen the QCC report - he been blacklisted and that cost him some work - Steve had to reinvent his career - interestingly, other parts of the UK are inviting him to talk about this because they realize treating staff poorly is bad for patients and they can't recruit workers - Steve didn't want to be a whistleblower, he just wanted to do his job properly


0:37:00


The report was in 2014, but nothing has changed - Steve is involved with a group Whistleblowers UK - currently is a worker raises concerns about patient safety you'll probably lose your job - but the profile of whistleblowing has grown, and maybe at a tipping point - partially due to lack of staff and trouble recruiting


0:39:00


In part, due to Brexit, many foreign workers have gone back to their home country - reforms in 2012 was a disaster - Steve has looked at health care in other countries, and they have same problem 


0:40:00


The problem recruiting is the culture of arrogance - Steve believes patients are their own best experts, and clinicians have got to change, there is no choice - must change some fundamental things - 'shared decision making' between clinician and patient is wrong, an arrogant way to look at it - 


0:41:00


Clinicians provide information, patients make decisions - this change is happening fast and nurses and doctors are resisting - its a threat to their power - Steve doesn't want any power over people, because it works for everyone - if patients may make a bad decision and it won't reflect on the clinician 


0:43:30


Heavy workload contributes to high rate of physician suicide - a high profile topic at the moment - some research has shown some physicians have committed suicide because of bullying - Steve does a lot of medical education now around patient safety and uses patients as co-instructors - his colleague Sam teaches with him on mental health
 

 
Labels can harm
 


0:45:00


Sam was and is a user of services, and Steve was his nurse - they teach the classes equally, they both get paid, there is tokenizing patients - Steve is developing that approach more and more - he often uses anonymized stories to tell about what helped


0:46:30


Patient safety in the UK is an industry, hierarchical - Steve will share stories with his audience in a helpful environment to talk about what would've been done differently - Steve also talks about errors his made - for example, he had a client who was labeled as 'aggressive' and Steve followed the care plan that said this person had borderline personality disorder and hinted strongly she was manipulative


0:48:00


Steve basically fobbed this person off, but came across her a few years later in a different environment with a longer assessment session - Steve realized that the care plan he'd been following, and notes about her, was wrong - Steve managed to get the notes changed, the care plan changed, a note from the psychiatrist and the diagnosis changed, and this person is now a psychologist


0:49:30


Steve has some problems with diagnostic labels - in mental health they can be really unhelpful - a 'working diagnosis' may be helpful if shared with the patient to work together - but that is often not done - and for doctors to get paid, they have to give a diagnosis, ticking a box


0:51:15


Labels come in fads - in early 2000s, it was borderline personality disorder - now its emotionally unstable personality disorder - Steve worked in a place where there were 2 psychiatrists, one often labeled a patient as borderline personality, and the other would label same patient as schizophrenic - the treatments are totally different, and they may not have either


0:52:30


Ticking the box contributes to clinician burnout - pressure to diagnose and create a care plan - Steve was not allowed to spend more time to really figure out what was going on, and that is destroying mental health services 


0:54:00


Steve would like to do more medical education - he's involved with an organization called MedLearn with an approach to let patients be their best experts - he supports things that challenge the hierarchy in health care


0:56:30


It is still the norm not to pay patients for their contributions to research - and it is very patronizing 


0:59:30


In the UK, patients often have 4 or 5 clinicians, who never communicate in any meaningful way


1:00:00


Steve thinks to change the medical culture, patients have to be brought in - there was a unit that was dysfunctional, lots going wrong - because it was specialist unit, there were patients on the board, and when they found out things were going on, then things changed - so patients on the board would help, and real patients - they don't necessarily have to have board experience, they can learn that - patients need to be in the hierarchy and involved with what's going on in a non peripheral way
 

 
Connect with Steve Turner
 


Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/MedicineGovSte'>@MedicineGovSte</a>


 


Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/steve.turner.9678'>Steve Turner</a>
__________________________________________________________________
 

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<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>

<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>

<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>

<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>

  











 
 


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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nurse and medical educator Steve Turner talks about the medical errors he’s witnessed - and participated in - and how being a health care whistleblower is likely to get you fired from your job and blacklisted from future opportunities.</p>
<p>Steve also talks about the tragic and needless death of Oliver McGowan who was killed by multiple health care workers who failed to listen to him. Steve also shares how the paternalistic physician culture has baked-in arrogance, and that in and of itself, is a medical error.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Mental Health Nurse</p>

0:05:00


Steve grew up in Stafford, England - a happy childhood, with one brother - moved to Rugby when he was 17 and he had been doing poorly at school but then started to think about his future - Steve did not know what he wanted to do, but because his friend's father was a psychiatrist, and Steve grandfather had mental health issues, he was drawn to that field - but worked in a restaurant in Coventry and met some Australians working there


0:07:00


Steve then moved to Shepparton, Australia on a work holiday - Steve had a wonderful experience, working in bars, fruit picking and other casual labour - Australia was booming while the UK experienced 'the winter of discontent' - that 10 years traveling and working in Australia provided more experience to draw on than any training course - have to rely on your wits, meet a variety of people - when he later became a mental health nurse, he'd already come across mental health issues from his experiences


0:09:00


Steve always thought he wanted to do nursing, had realized he couldn't be a casual, traveling worker forever - he was accepted by St Georges in London, UK - Steve did general nursing followed by specialty in mental health nursing - drawn to it in part because his grandfather spent his life in a mental hospital and died there


0:11:00


Steve was attracted to the physical and mental health of a person, to look after the whole person - when Steve first started, he worked in a large acute ward with 40 beds - it wasn't a kind environment, but the people he worked with were good - Steve was interested in community mental health, and there were a few teams at that time - when Steve returned to nursing in 2002, he recognized how much things had changed


0:13:00


After nursing for a few years, Steve started to work for US company SMS in the UK - they provided IT services to health care and Steve thought he'd work for them for 6 months but stayed to 10 years working on clinical systems and became a senior consultant - working on 'clinical systems' meant he spent a lot of time on wards and with doctors - Steve also specialized in clinical governance showing the clinical credibility of the system


0:14:45


Steve tweets and talks about medical errors a lot - the 1980s things were different, a lot of shocking things - Steve worked on a ward where one doctor would not tell cancer patients they had cancer, something that wouldn't happen now - Steve has seen medical errors happen and 1 doctor say another is responsible, but nothing came of it - there was no structure to deal with it - doctors and nurses were a law unto themselves
 

 
Arrogance and Paternalism
 


0:15:30


A recent case in the UK where a doctor didn't tell a patient a cancer diagnosis and that has hit the headlines - Steve thinks it is arrogance - but often patients would ask nurses for the truth and would be told - the kindest way to describe doctors holding back a diagnosis is paternalism, "I'm the doctor, your the patient, I know what's best for you' - still common unfortunately


0:17:00


After 10 years in IT, Steve returned to nursing in 2002 - worked for local 'assertive outreach team' to work with people who have been labeled 'hard to engage' but Steve said its the services that are hard to engage - working with people that are marginalized, they had more freedom to try different approaches and had a lighter case load


0:18:30


Steve worked with people who took street drugs - his approach was to include their drug use in their recovery plan - they would try to find what worked with each person - Steve had seen a lot of meds given to people to sedate them - sometimes meds just made people look like they were better to the clinicians, but they actually felt terrible


0:20:00


Steve would ask his clients 'what would help?' - Steve had to build trusting relationships - he spent 3 months talking through a door crack before one client let him in - one client told Steve he appreciated being treated like an ordinary person, this was the best compliment Steve received


0:21:45


Sedating patients and giving information are both medical error, and can lead to harm - there's a lot of research showing antipsychotics and how they make patients look like they're better, but they're not - arrogance is a medical error - for mental health, health care workers can persuade people to do things that are wrong for them


0:23:00


In the UK, the mental health act, to lock someone away, a mental health assessment is undertaken and different people do the assessment and recommendation - there is a big legal process, it doesn't always work well and some people have been 'sectioned' (locked away against their will) when they shouldn't be - Steve has seen people sectioned inappropriately


0:24:00


Steve thinks one person was sectioned because he was Spanish - this person had an English accent but was raised in Spain and had Spanish expressiveness, and that is why he was sectioned - on the other hand, Steve has seen some really ill people who initiated a mental health assessment, and he was very worried they would not be sectioned because they were such a risk to themselves
 

 
Oliver's Campaign
 


0:26:00


Steve is starting to learn more about the shocking situations where the parent, usually mother, is accused of 'fabricating or inducing illness' on their ill child - also called '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder_imposed_on_another'>Munchausen by Proxy</a>' - in children with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) / chronic fatigue syndrome, the blame shifts to the parents and that happens a lot - Steve has worked in situations where the mother is ignored and labeled as 'difficult'


0:27:15


The case of Oliver McGowan, he had mild autism and a learning disability - the state thinking it knows better than the parents is a huge issue in the UK - Oliver was 18 years old and died 2 years ago in hospital - he occasionally had seizures, and would be a bit agitated as he came out of it - they were investigating his seizures - he had been mistakenly sectioned


0:28:30


2 years ago he had a seizure and was admitted to hospital and was ventilated so they could do a brain scan - in the past, Oliver had been given antipsychotic meds and he always had an adverse reaction to them - at one point he had a dystonic reaction - an oculargyric crisis (reaction to certain drugs or medical conditions characterized by a prolonged involuntary upward deviation of the eyes) - extremely frightening as your eyes roll back and you can't move


0:29:00


Other antipsychotic meds made Oliver feel like there were flies buzzing around in his head - Oliver was never psychotic - Oliver had a care plan that said not to give him antipsychotics - in the ambulance on the way to hospital he said 'please don't give me antipsychotics' - Oliver told staff again at the hospital and it was written on his drug chart in red ink


0:30:00


But he was given antipsychotics and died from neuroleptic malignancy syndrome, a rare but fatal reaction to antipsychotics - his mother Paula has campaigned for training in hospitals for all staff on disabilities and autism - just started rolling out Oliver's Campaign is hashtag (<a href='https://twitter.com/CampaignOlivers'>#OliversCampaign</a>)


0:31:30


Doctors are duty bound to take the patients best interest decision by taking everyone's views into consideration and document it, but that wasn't done


0:32:30


Steve had a whistleblower experience - it is not just a hospital problem, it is society wide - when Steve left the NHS in 2006 he had some recommendations - the team he worked for was being disbanded, yet produced good service - Steve wrote a letter using the formal grievance procedure - but Steve deliberately copied the letter to one of the general practitioners the team worked with very closely 


0:33:30


Steve was suspended - Steve thought, 'if you try to change things with a reasonable letter, and then you get suspended for 6 weeks' - he didn't want to work for that kind of organization - Steve became an independent consultant and got hired back by the same people for another 5 years - but in the NHS, people who speak out are ostracized
 

 
Whistleblowing
 


0:34:30


Eventually Steve lost all his work when he made a Protected Disclosure to the Quality Care Commission (QCC) about changing reports, bullying of staff - Steve had been hired to train nurses - he gave them an exam at the end because he knew they didn't know what they were training - suddenly they only wanted him to do the exam, not the training - Steve said these new graduates would fail his exam without training


0:35:30


There was an external review of Steve's complaints but he's never heard about it since - although they interviewed Steve, he's never seen the QCC report - he been blacklisted and that cost him some work - Steve had to reinvent his career - interestingly, other parts of the UK are inviting him to talk about this because they realize treating staff poorly is bad for patients and they can't recruit workers - Steve didn't want to be a whistleblower, he just wanted to do his job properly


0:37:00


The report was in 2014, but nothing has changed - Steve is involved with a group Whistleblowers UK - currently is a worker raises concerns about patient safety you'll probably lose your job - but the profile of whistleblowing has grown, and maybe at a tipping point - partially due to lack of staff and trouble recruiting


0:39:00


In part, due to Brexit, many foreign workers have gone back to their home country - reforms in 2012 was a disaster - Steve has looked at health care in other countries, and they have same problem 


0:40:00


The problem recruiting is the culture of arrogance - Steve believes patients are their own best experts, and clinicians have got to change, there is no choice - must change some fundamental things - 'shared decision making' between clinician and patient is wrong, an arrogant way to look at it - 


0:41:00


Clinicians provide information, patients make decisions - this change is happening fast and nurses and doctors are resisting - its a threat to their power - Steve doesn't want any power over people, because it works for everyone - if patients may make a bad decision and it won't reflect on the clinician 


0:43:30


Heavy workload contributes to high rate of physician suicide - a high profile topic at the moment - some research has shown some physicians have committed suicide because of bullying - Steve does a lot of medical education now around patient safety and uses patients as co-instructors - his colleague Sam teaches with him on mental health
 

 
Labels can harm
 


0:45:00


Sam was and is a user of services, and Steve was his nurse - they teach the classes equally, they both get paid, there is tokenizing patients - Steve is developing that approach more and more - he often uses anonymized stories to tell about what helped


0:46:30


Patient safety in the UK is an industry, hierarchical - Steve will share stories with his audience in a helpful environment to talk about what would've been done differently - Steve also talks about errors his made - for example, he had a client who was labeled as 'aggressive' and Steve followed the care plan that said this person had borderline personality disorder and hinted strongly she was manipulative


0:48:00


Steve basically fobbed this person off, but came across her a few years later in a different environment with a longer assessment session - Steve realized that the care plan he'd been following, and notes about her, was wrong - Steve managed to get the notes changed, the care plan changed, a note from the psychiatrist and the diagnosis changed, and this person is now a psychologist


0:49:30


Steve has some problems with diagnostic labels - in mental health they can be really unhelpful - a 'working diagnosis' may be helpful if shared with the patient to work together - but that is often not done - and for doctors to get paid, they have to give a diagnosis, ticking a box


0:51:15


Labels come in fads - in early 2000s, it was borderline personality disorder - now its emotionally unstable personality disorder - Steve worked in a place where there were 2 psychiatrists, one often labeled a patient as borderline personality, and the other would label same patient as schizophrenic - the treatments are totally different, and they may not have either


0:52:30


Ticking the box contributes to clinician burnout - pressure to diagnose and create a care plan - Steve was not allowed to spend more time to really figure out what was going on, and that is destroying mental health services 


0:54:00


Steve would like to do more medical education - he's involved with an organization called MedLearn with an approach to let patients be their best experts - he supports things that challenge the hierarchy in health care


0:56:30


It is still the norm not to pay patients for their contributions to research - and it is very patronizing 


0:59:30


In the UK, patients often have 4 or 5 clinicians, who never communicate in any meaningful way


1:00:00


Steve thinks to change the medical culture, patients have to be brought in - there was a unit that was dysfunctional, lots going wrong - because it was specialist unit, there were patients on the board, and when they found out things were going on, then things changed - so patients on the board would help, and real patients - they don't necessarily have to have board experience, they can learn that - patients need to be in the hierarchy and involved with what's going on in a non peripheral way
 

 
Connect with Steve Turner
 


Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/MedicineGovSte'>@MedicineGovSte</a>


 


Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/steve.turner.9678'>Steve Turner</a>
__________________________________________________________________
 

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<br>
<p>Be my Guest</p>
<p>I am always looking for guests to share their medical error experiences so we help bring awareness and make patients safer.</p>
<p>If you are a survivor, a victim’s surviving family member, a health care worker, advocate, researcher or policy maker and you would like to share your experiences, please send me an email with a brief description:  RemediesPodcast@gmail.com </p>
<br>
<p>Need a Counsellor?</p>
<p>Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.</p>
<p>If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.</p>
<p>**<em>For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.</em>** </p>
<p>Email me to learn more or book an appointment:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com</p>
<br>
<p>Scott Simpson: </p>
<p>Counsellor + Patient Advocate + (former) Triathlete</p>
<p>I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard. Train hard. Rest hard.</p>
<p>I have been living with HIV since 1998. I was the <a href='https://dignitasinternational.org/2006/08/30/antiretroviral-drugs-keep-hiv-positive-triathlete-on-track-for-world-event-canadian-press/'>first person living with HIV</a> to compete at the triathlon world championships.</p>
<p>Thanks to research and access to medications, HIV is not a problem in my life.</p>
<p>I have been living with ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.</p>
<br>
<p>Counseling / Research</p>
<p>I first became aware of the ubiquitousness of medical error during a decade of community based research working with the <a href='https://hivprevlab.ca/'>HIV Prevention Lab</a> at Ryerson University, where I co-authored two research papers on a counseling intervention for people living with HIV, <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152762'>here</a> and <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289366372_Gay_Poz_Sex_A_Sexual_Health_Promotion_Intervention_for_HIV-Positive_Gay_and_Bisexual_Men'>here</a>. </p>
<p>Patient participants would often report varying degrees of medical neglect, error and harms as part of their counseling sessions.</p>
<br>
<p>Patient Advocacy</p>
<p>I am co-founder of the ME patient advocacy non-profit <a href='https://www.millionsmissingcanada.ca/'>Millions Missing Canada</a>, and on the Executive Committee of the <a href='https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2019/08/government-of-canada-invests-14m-in-biomedical-research-to-improve-the-quality-of-life-of-people-living-with-myalgic-encephalomyelitis.html'>Interdisciplinary Canadian Collaborative Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Research Network</a>.</p>
<p>I am also a patient advisor for <a href='https://www.hqontario.ca/Patient-Partnering/Health-Quality-Ontarios-Patient-Family-and-Public-Advisors-Council'>Health Quality Ontario’s Patient and Family Advisory Council</a>, and member of <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/About/Programs/PPSC/Pages/default.aspx'>Patients for Patient Safety Canada</a>.</p>
<p><a href='https://medicalerrorinterviews.podbean.com/'>Medical Error Interviews</a> podcast and vidcast emerged to give voice to victims, witnesses and participants in this hidden epidemic so we can create change toward a safer health care system.</p>
<p>My golden retriever Gladys is a constant source of love and joy. I hope to be well enough again one day to race triathlons again. Or even shovel the snow off the sidewalk.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Nurse and medical educator Steve Turner talks about the medical errors he’s witnessed - and participated in - and how being a health care whistleblower is likely to get you fired from your job and blacklisted from future opportunities.
Steve also talks about the tragic and needless death of Oliver McGowan who was killed by multiple health care workers who failed to listen to him. Steve also shares how the paternalistic physician culture has baked-in arrogance, and that in and of itself, is a medical error.

Mental Health Nurse

0:05:00


Steve grew up in Stafford, England - a happy childhood, with one brother - moved to Rugby when he was 17 and he had been doing poorly at school but then started to think about his future - Steve did not know what he wanted to do, but because his friend's father was a psychiatrist, and Steve grandfather had mental health issues, he was drawn to that field - but worked in a restaurant in Coventry and met some Australians working there


0:07:00


Steve then moved to Shepparton, Australia on a work holiday - Steve had a wonderful experience, working in bars, fruit picking and other casual labour - Australia was booming while the UK experienced 'the winter of discontent' - that 10 years traveling and working in Australia provided more experience to draw on than any training course - have to rely on your wits, meet a variety of people - when he later became a mental health nurse, he'd already come across mental health issues from his experiences


0:09:00


Steve always thought he wanted to do nursing, had realized he couldn't be a casual, traveling worker forever - he was accepted by St Georges in London, UK - Steve did general nursing followed by specialty in mental health nursing - drawn to it in part because his grandfather spent his life in a mental hospital and died there


0:11:00


Steve was attracted to the physical and mental health of a person, to look after the whole person - when Steve first started, he worked in a large acute ward with 40 beds - it wasn't a kind environment, but the people he worked with were good - Steve was interested in community mental health, and there were a few teams at that time - when Steve returned to nursing in 2002, he recognized how much things had changed


0:13:00


After nursing for a few years, Steve started to work for US company SMS in the UK - they provided IT services to health care and Steve thought he'd work for them for 6 months but stayed to 10 years working on clinical systems and became a senior consultant - working on 'clinical systems' meant he spent a lot of time on wards and with doctors - Steve also specialized in clinical governance showing the clinical credibility of the system


0:14:45


Steve tweets and talks about medical errors a lot - the 1980s things were different, a lot of shocking things - Steve worked on a ward where one doctor would not tell cancer patients they had cancer, something that wouldn't happen now - Steve has seen medical errors happen and 1 doctor say another is responsible, but nothing came of it - there was no structure to deal with it - doctors and nurses were a law unto themselves
 

 
Arrogance and Paternalism
 


0:15:30


A recent case in the UK where a doctor didn't tell a patient a cancer diagnosis and that has hit the headlines - Steve thinks it is arrogance - but often patients would ask nurses for the truth and would be told - the kindest way to describe doctors holding back a diagnosis is paternalism, "I'm the doctor, your the patient, I know what's best for you' - still common unfortunately


0:17:00


After 10 years in IT, Steve returned to nursing in 2002 - worked for local 'assertive outreach team' to work with people who have been labeled 'hard to engage' but Steve said its the services that are hard to engage - working with people that are marginalized, they had more freedom to try different approaches and had a lighter case load


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Author Elsie Saba tells about her experience of misdiagnosis of an ovarian tumour and subsequent surgery where the surgeon removed the tumour, her ovary and - to Elsie’s surprise - he also took out her uterus.</p>
<p>But Elsie didn’t have an ovarian tumour. And the surgeon didn’t remove her ovary. What the surgeon did do was leave Elsie with immense pain, an inability to urinate, falsified her medical records, and then told her it was all in her head.</p>
<p>As you will hear, Elsie is a fighter and wants to warn others about the dangers in the medical industry and has penned an account of her medical experiences in her book Tell the World of Doctor’s Death Traps, Deceit and a License to Kill.</p>
<p>

</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Fulbright Scholarship</p>

0:05:30


Elsie Blanche Saba was born in 1930 - born in Nazareth, when it was in Palestine - when she was 2 months she went with her mother to see her father who was working on an archeaological dig in Egypt for Princeton University - then transferred to Antioch (Turkey) to excavate Roman artefacts - Elsie went to a private school 


0:07:30


WW II started and Princeton closed the project - her family to moved to Haifa until Germans bombed and they moved to Nazareth - her parents enrolled Elsie in Smith's College in Jerusalem until 10th grade boarding school with German nuns - when war got worse and they closed the school - so her parents hired French nuns to teach Elsie - when she finished high school, Elsie told her parents she wanted to smuggle herself to the American University in Beirut, Lebanon


0:09:30


Her father said she would be killed crossing the mountains - Elsies parents hired a smuggler to get Elsie across the mountains to Lebanon - eventually she went back and forth 4 times 


0:11:30


After she graduated from university she returned to Nazareth until 1955 and moved to the US to attend Kalamazoo University with Masters Degree - in 1962 Elsie won the National Travel Award and in 1964 she won a Fulbright Scholarship to study in Paris


0:12:30


Elsie taught high school in San Diego - in 1972 while helping her students she fell on the floor and went to her internist and he took an x-ray of her back and her ankle - Elsie had severe pain but the internist said it would go away - then Elsie started hemorrhaging and went to a gynecologist and he said Elsie had an orange size ovarian cyst and he needed to operate - Elsie said 'no', she felt she the problem was in her right kidney - but he wouldn't listen and Elsie got another referral


0:14:30


Else went to Dr Vandenberg and he agreed she needed an IVP (x-ray of kidneys) and that she did not have an ovarian cyst - but her internist, Dr Pund, refused the IVP - Elsie begged him for IVP because she knew her right kidney was the problem - Dr Pund said he was not following Dr Vandenberg's orders and told Elsie to have the operation to remove the ovarian cyst - after the operation Elsie could not urinate and told her gynecologist and he said it was 'in her head'


0:16:30


The gynecologist said her removed the cyst and her right ovary and a hysterectomy - for 3 months she went to many doctors and the gynecologist said Elsie was healthy, but her internist refused to sign her disability form and told her to go back to work - Elsie told him she couldn't urinate, and he said he would tell the gynecologist to send Elsie for IVP (to x-ray her kidney)
 

 
Ovarian cyst surgery
 


0:18:30


Elsie asked the internist to send her for IVP but he refused and 'didn't want to get involved' - Elsie went for kidney x-ray and then was sent to a urologist and he said he had to do exploratory operation to find the problem - but Elsie's parents said 'no' and told her to go Dr John Steel, urologist and he took x-ray and diagnosed Elsie with a utero pelvic obstruction and that she was born with it


0:20:30


The nerves of the right kidney are pressing against the ureter and causing the obstruction - he sent Elsie to the hospital for an operation - when she woke she could not move her hands, her arms, legs, or breathe, she was dying - Elsie's parents moved from Israel to San Diego 


0:22:30


Elsie's parents hired 3 nurses to care for Elsie in the hospital - Elsie told Dr Pund that she did not believe him when he said she had an ovarian cyst - Dr Pund said he saw the cyst and the ovary removed, but Elsie did not believe him - Elsie had a draining tube inserted to drain urine - Elsie was also harassed by her employer / school


0:24:30


Elsie's class was full of trouble makers - the school had the highest criminal rates - their school wanted Elsie to return, but Elsie said she was too sick - 4 days later Elsie was back home but so sick, she will never forget it: Elsie could not move or ask for help, but she saw a beam of light focus on her utero pelvic obstruction


0:26:30


Elsie went to many doctors telling them the location of her pain, they all said it was 'in her head' - Elsie had to return to work teaching but was still in severe pain and went to see Dr Pund, but he was not there, so Elsie saw his colleague Dr Carmichael, but he refused to help her - Elsie tried many other hospitals and none would help her - she wrote many letters but no one would help her


0:28:30


Elsie's bungalow and classroom where very cold - when Elsie got home from work she cried because of the pain - in the middle of one night, Elsie heard a voice in her sleep telling her to see Dr Michael DeBakey in Houston, Texas - this was after Stanford doctors told her they would do nothing for her - Elsie went to an attorney and said insurance was not paying her because her medical files have been falsified


0:30:30


She hired the attorney - the hearings kept getting postponing for 8 years, then Elsie was told that the statute of limitations prevented her from presenting some of her evidence - Elsie asked her attorney why he didn't protect her, and he said 'because you are nothing, you are a woman and these are 6 male doctors and you are nothing, he kept repeating


0:32:30


Without a doctor, Elsie had to get treatment other ways - she got doxycycline from Tijuana in order to survive - in 1979 Dr DeBakey hospitalized Elsie for 2.5 weeks to run many tests - Elsie found out she still had her ovary and the hysterectomy was unnecessary, and the ovarian cyst did not exist, she never had it - in the court room, the defense claimed Elsie's right ovary had been removed, but she had the recent x-ray to prove it, but the judge refused to allow that evidence
 

 
Courts are for the rich
 


0:34:30


Dr DeBakey's report, which is in Elsie's book, said she still had her ovary, and her right kidney had some minor damage from the obstruction, but she should never have been given toxic antibiotics from Dr Steel, they made her very sick - and she didn't even have an infection according to the Houston urologist - but no doctors want to be involved in the scandal


0:36:30


Elsie had many tests from different hospitals and none of them showed infection - before Dr DeBakey died, Elsie went back to get the tests repeated - he told her she needed annual xrays of her kidneys and an MRI - Elsie made a mistake in telling Dr Pund that she was seeing Dr DeBakey and word got back to Dr Steel


0:38:30


A nurse told Elsie that Dr Steel instructed another doctor not to tell Elsie the true facts - Elsie had a dream of the doctors pushing over a cliff but she managed to escape - Elsie called a taxi at 10pm and snuck out of the hospital without being seen - and in the morning flew back to San Diego - for the next 12 years Elsie lived with pain and without a doctor - she then met Dr Marino 


0:41:00


Dr Marino was her doctor until he retired a few years ago, now she has no doctor - Dr Steel had done Elsie's abdominal surgery through her back, cutting her nerves, including her sciatica, and that's why she can't walk and has to use a walker


0:42:30


Elsie has written her book to warn others that going to a prominent doctor does not mean they are honest - going to the best hospital, does not mean they are honest - Elsie has a nurse who comes once a month to re-new her medication and will write a prescription - Elsie realizes she will never get help in the US because of her falsified medical record


0:44:30


Elsie wants to send copies of her book to woman in Congress - 'wake up', you have to pass laws to stop doctors from falsifying records, cannot prevent other doctors from helping patients - the law has to be changed - American courts are corrupted and if you're not a millionaire, the courts are not for you - the courts are for the rich doctors, the rich insurance companies - Elsie had to pay 1,000s of dollars in premiums and her insurance company did not help her because her health records were falsified


0:46:00


Elsie's attorney wonders if the judge in her case was bribed - Elsie sued 6 doctors, but she didn't want their money, she just wanted her medical record to have the truth so she can get help - years later Elsie found out Dr Steel's license was revoked for scandalous reasons - Elsie couldn't write her book sooner because she kept falling - she broke her wrist, her hip and injured her liver


0:48:00


On one of Elsie's mountain crossings, she met a Catholic priest, Father Michael, who said he was a psychic - she later found out he was the best psychic in the Middle East - he told Elsie that she would have a severe operation in her lower abdomen - he said she would die for a few seconds but would make it


0:50:00


The priest also told Elsie that she would write a book about her experience and it would be heard by many and change a few things in the medical profession - Elsie paid for the publishing of the book because she wants to help people - she wants to tell people that if someone says you're crazy, don't believe them, believe yourself - and that is Elsie's story.
 
 
 
Connect with Elsie
 


Buy Elsie's book on <a href='https://www.amazon.com/World-Doctors-Death-Deceit-License/dp/1977210511/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=elsie+saba&qid=1572982781&s=books&sr=1-1'>Amazon</a>


 


Buy Elsie's book from <a href='https://outskirtspress.com/telltheworldofdoctorsdeathtrapsfrauddeceitandalicensetokill'>Outskirts Press</a>


 


Social media:


 


<a href='https://www.facebook.com/OutskirtsPress/'>https://facebook.com/outskirtspress </a>
<a href='https://twitter.com/outskirtspress'>https://twitter.com/outskirtspress </a>
<a href='https://www.pinterest.ca/outskirtspress/'>https://pinterest.com/outskirtspress </a>
<a href='https://instagram.com/outskirtspress'>https://instagram.com/outskirtspress</a>
 
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Author Elsie Saba tells about her experience of misdiagnosis of an ovarian tumour and subsequent surgery where the surgeon removed the tumour, her ovary and - to Elsie’s surprise - he also took out her uterus.</p>
<p>But Elsie didn’t have an ovarian tumour. And the surgeon didn’t remove her ovary. What the surgeon did do was leave Elsie with immense pain, an inability to urinate, falsified her medical records, and then told her it was all in her head.</p>
<p>As you will hear, Elsie is a fighter and wants to warn others about the dangers in the medical industry and has penned an account of her medical experiences in her book <em>Tell the World of Doctor’s Death Traps, Deceit and a License to Kill</em>.</p>
<p><br>
<br>
</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Fulbright Scholarship</p>

0:05:30


Elsie Blanche Saba was born in 1930 - born in Nazareth, when it was in Palestine - when she was 2 months she went with her mother to see her father who was working on an archeaological dig in Egypt for Princeton University - then transferred to Antioch (Turkey) to excavate Roman artefacts - Elsie went to a private school 


0:07:30


WW II started and Princeton closed the project - her family to moved to Haifa until Germans bombed and they moved to Nazareth - her parents enrolled Elsie in Smith's College in Jerusalem until 10th grade boarding school with German nuns - when war got worse and they closed the school - so her parents hired French nuns to teach Elsie - when she finished high school, Elsie told her parents she wanted to smuggle herself to the American University in Beirut, Lebanon


0:09:30


Her father said she would be killed crossing the mountains - Elsies parents hired a smuggler to get Elsie across the mountains to Lebanon - eventually she went back and forth 4 times 


0:11:30


After she graduated from university she returned to Nazareth until 1955 and moved to the US to attend Kalamazoo University with Masters Degree - in 1962 Elsie won the National Travel Award and in 1964 she won a Fulbright Scholarship to study in Paris


0:12:30


Elsie taught high school in San Diego - in 1972 while helping her students she fell on the floor and went to her internist and he took an x-ray of her back and her ankle - Elsie had severe pain but the internist said it would go away - then Elsie started hemorrhaging and went to a gynecologist and he said Elsie had an orange size ovarian cyst and he needed to operate - Elsie said 'no', she felt she the problem was in her right kidney - but he wouldn't listen and Elsie got another referral


0:14:30


Else went to Dr Vandenberg and he agreed she needed an IVP (x-ray of kidneys) and that she did not have an ovarian cyst - but her internist, Dr Pund, refused the IVP - Elsie begged him for IVP because she knew her right kidney was the problem - Dr Pund said he was not following Dr Vandenberg's orders and told Elsie to have the operation to remove the ovarian cyst - after the operation Elsie could not urinate and told her gynecologist and he said it was 'in her head'


0:16:30


The gynecologist said her removed the cyst and her right ovary and a hysterectomy - for 3 months she went to many doctors and the gynecologist said Elsie was healthy, but her internist refused to sign her disability form and told her to go back to work - Elsie told him she couldn't urinate, and he said he would tell the gynecologist to send Elsie for IVP (to x-ray her kidney)
 

 
Ovarian cyst surgery
 


0:18:30


Elsie asked the internist to send her for IVP but he refused and 'didn't want to get involved' - Elsie went for kidney x-ray and then was sent to a urologist and he said he had to do exploratory operation to find the problem - but Elsie's parents said 'no' and told her to go Dr John Steel, urologist and he took x-ray and diagnosed Elsie with a utero pelvic obstruction and that she was born with it


0:20:30


The nerves of the right kidney are pressing against the ureter and causing the obstruction - he sent Elsie to the hospital for an operation - when she woke she could not move her hands, her arms, legs, or breathe, she was dying - Elsie's parents moved from Israel to San Diego 


0:22:30


Elsie's parents hired 3 nurses to care for Elsie in the hospital - Elsie told Dr Pund that she did not believe him when he said she had an ovarian cyst - Dr Pund said he saw the cyst and the ovary removed, but Elsie did not believe him - Elsie had a draining tube inserted to drain urine - Elsie was also harassed by her employer / school


0:24:30


Elsie's class was full of trouble makers - the school had the highest criminal rates - their school wanted Elsie to return, but Elsie said she was too sick - 4 days later Elsie was back home but so sick, she will never forget it: Elsie could not move or ask for help, but she saw a beam of light focus on her utero pelvic obstruction


0:26:30


Elsie went to many doctors telling them the location of her pain, they all said it was 'in her head' - Elsie had to return to work teaching but was still in severe pain and went to see Dr Pund, but he was not there, so Elsie saw his colleague Dr Carmichael, but he refused to help her - Elsie tried many other hospitals and none would help her - she wrote many letters but no one would help her


0:28:30


Elsie's bungalow and classroom where very cold - when Elsie got home from work she cried because of the pain - in the middle of one night, Elsie heard a voice in her sleep telling her to see Dr Michael DeBakey in Houston, Texas - this was after Stanford doctors told her they would do nothing for her - Elsie went to an attorney and said insurance was not paying her because her medical files have been falsified


0:30:30


She hired the attorney - the hearings kept getting postponing for 8 years, then Elsie was told that the statute of limitations prevented her from presenting some of her evidence - Elsie asked her attorney why he didn't protect her, and he said 'because you are nothing, you are a woman and these are 6 male doctors and you are nothing, he kept repeating


0:32:30


Without a doctor, Elsie had to get treatment other ways - she got doxycycline from Tijuana in order to survive - in 1979 Dr DeBakey hospitalized Elsie for 2.5 weeks to run many tests - Elsie found out she still had her ovary and the hysterectomy was unnecessary, and the ovarian cyst did not exist, she never had it - in the court room, the defense claimed Elsie's right ovary had been removed, but she had the recent x-ray to prove it, but the judge refused to allow that evidence
 

 
Courts are for the rich
 


0:34:30


Dr DeBakey's report, which is in Elsie's book, said she still had her ovary, and her right kidney had some minor damage from the obstruction, but she should never have been given toxic antibiotics from Dr Steel, they made her very sick - and she didn't even have an infection according to the Houston urologist - but no doctors want to be involved in the scandal


0:36:30


Elsie had many tests from different hospitals and none of them showed infection - before Dr DeBakey died, Elsie went back to get the tests repeated - he told her she needed annual xrays of her kidneys and an MRI - Elsie made a mistake in telling Dr Pund that she was seeing Dr DeBakey and word got back to Dr Steel


0:38:30


A nurse told Elsie that Dr Steel instructed another doctor not to tell Elsie the true facts - Elsie had a dream of the doctors pushing over a cliff but she managed to escape - Elsie called a taxi at 10pm and snuck out of the hospital without being seen - and in the morning flew back to San Diego - for the next 12 years Elsie lived with pain and without a doctor - she then met Dr Marino 


0:41:00


Dr Marino was her doctor until he retired a few years ago, now she has no doctor - Dr Steel had done Elsie's abdominal surgery through her back, cutting her nerves, including her sciatica, and that's why she can't walk and has to use a walker


0:42:30


Elsie has written her book to warn others that going to a prominent doctor does not mean they are honest - going to the best hospital, does not mean they are honest - Elsie has a nurse who comes once a month to re-new her medication and will write a prescription - Elsie realizes she will never get help in the US because of her falsified medical record


0:44:30


Elsie wants to send copies of her book to woman in Congress - 'wake up', you have to pass laws to stop doctors from falsifying records, cannot prevent other doctors from helping patients - the law has to be changed - American courts are corrupted and if you're not a millionaire, the courts are not for you - the courts are for the rich doctors, the rich insurance companies - Elsie had to pay 1,000s of dollars in premiums and her insurance company did not help her because her health records were falsified


0:46:00


Elsie's attorney wonders if the judge in her case was bribed - Elsie sued 6 doctors, but she didn't want their money, she just wanted her medical record to have the truth so she can get help - years later Elsie found out Dr Steel's license was revoked for scandalous reasons - Elsie couldn't write her book sooner because she kept falling - she broke her wrist, her hip and injured her liver


0:48:00


On one of Elsie's mountain crossings, she met a Catholic priest, Father Michael, who said he was a psychic - she later found out he was the best psychic in the Middle East - he told Elsie that she would have a severe operation in her lower abdomen - he said she would die for a few seconds but would make it


0:50:00


The priest also told Elsie that she would write a book about her experience and it would be heard by many and change a few things in the medical profession - Elsie paid for the publishing of the book because she wants to help people - she wants to tell people that if someone says you're crazy, don't believe them, believe yourself - and that is Elsie's story.
 
 
 
Connect with Elsie
 


Buy Elsie's book on <a href='https://www.amazon.com/World-Doctors-Death-Deceit-License/dp/1977210511/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=elsie+saba&qid=1572982781&s=books&sr=1-1'>Amazon</a>


 


Buy Elsie's book from <a href='https://outskirtspress.com/telltheworldofdoctorsdeathtrapsfrauddeceitandalicensetokill'>Outskirts Press</a>


 


Social media:


 


<a href='https://www.facebook.com/OutskirtsPress/'>https://facebook.com/outskirtspress </a>
<a href='https://twitter.com/outskirtspress'>https://twitter.com/outskirtspress </a>
<a href='https://www.pinterest.ca/outskirtspress/'>https://pinterest.com/outskirtspress </a>
<a href='https://instagram.com/outskirtspress'>https://instagram.com/outskirtspress</a>
 
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I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard, train hard, rest hard.
Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
I have been living with HIV since 1998, and thanks to research and medications, it is not a problem in my life. 
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
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If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Author Elsie Saba tells about her experience of misdiagnosis of an ovarian tumour and subsequent surgery where the surgeon removed the tumour, her ovary and - to Elsie’s surprise - he also took out her uterus.
But Elsie didn’t have an ovarian tumour. And the surgeon didn’t remove her ovary. What the surgeon did do was leave Elsie with immense pain, an inability to urinate, falsified her medical records, and then told her it was all in her head.
As you will hear, Elsie is a fighter and wants to warn others about the dangers in the medical industry and has penned an account of her medical experiences in her book Tell the World of Doctor’s Death Traps, Deceit and a License to Kill.

SHOW NOTES
Fulbright Scholarship

0:05:30


Elsie Blanche Saba was born in 1930 - born in Nazareth, when it was in Palestine - when she was 2 months she went with her mother to see her father who was working on an archeaological dig in Egypt for Princeton University - then transferred to Antioch (Turkey) to excavate Roman artefacts - Elsie went to a private school 


0:07:30


WW II started and Princeton closed the project - her family to moved to Haifa until Germans bombed and they moved to Nazareth - her parents enrolled Elsie in Smith's College in Jerusalem until 10th grade boarding school with German nuns - when war got worse and they closed the school - so her parents hired French nuns to teach Elsie - when she finished high school, Elsie told her parents she wanted to smuggle herself to the American University in Beirut, Lebanon


0:09:30


Her father said she would be killed crossing the mountains - Elsies parents hired a smuggler to get Elsie across the mountains to Lebanon - eventually she went back and forth 4 times 


0:11:30


After she graduated from university she returned to Nazareth until 1955 and moved to the US to attend Kalamazoo University with Masters Degree - in 1962 Elsie won the National Travel Award and in 1964 she won a Fulbright Scholarship to study in Paris


0:12:30


Elsie taught high school in San Diego - in 1972 while helping her students she fell on the floor and went to her internist and he took an x-ray of her back and her ankle - Elsie had severe pain but the internist said it would go away - then Elsie started hemorrhaging and went to a gynecologist and he said Elsie had an orange size ovarian cyst and he needed to operate - Elsie said 'no', she felt she the problem was in her right kidney - but he wouldn't listen and Elsie got another referral


0:14:30


Else went to Dr Vandenberg and he agreed she needed an IVP (x-ray of kidneys) and that she did not have an ovarian cyst - but her internist, Dr Pund, refused the IVP - Elsie begged him for IVP because she knew her right kidney was the problem - Dr Pund said he was not following Dr Vandenberg's orders and told Elsie to have the operation to remove the ovarian cyst - after the operation Elsie could not urinate and told her gynecologist and he said it was 'in her head'


0:16:30


The gynecologist said her removed the cyst and her right ovary and a hysterectomy - for 3 months she went to many doctors and the gynecologist said Elsie was healthy, but her internist refused to sign her disability form and told her to go back to work - Elsie told him she couldn't urinate, and he said he would tell the gynecologist to send Elsie for IVP (to x-ray her kidney)
 

 
Ovarian cyst surgery
 


0:18:30


Elsie asked the internist to send her for IVP but he refused and 'didn't want to get involved' - Elsie went for kidney x-ray and then was sent to a urologist and he said he had to do exploratory operation to find the problem - but Elsie's parents said 'no' and told her to go Dr John Steel, urologist and he took x-ray and diagnosed Elsie with a utero pelvic obstruction and that she was born with it


0:20:30


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>In part 2 journalist Hillary Johnson shares more about her work and her life. If you’re not familiar with the story of how a biological disease that occurs in sporadic and epidemic forms was labeled as ‘all in your head’ by the Centre for Disease Control, than you’ll want to hear how it all went down from the one person who uncovered the corruption.</p>
<p>Hillary talks about her healthiest 9 months in 35 years of being ill when she was taking Ampligen and why she’s not still taking it. Hillary shares about being banned from the Centre for Disease Control (CDC) for seeking the truth and how that didn’t stop her from writing Osler’s Web. Hillary also tells how the CDC and a United Kingdom psychiatrist obliterated the lives of millions of patients worldwide by perpetuating a psychosomatic label that denied them biomedical care.</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES</p>


 
Heart attack and cancer
 
0:06:00


The cardiologist found abnormal EKGs - myocardia eschemia, everything short of a heart attack and refused to approve Hillary for surgery until she found what was wrong with Hillary's heart - but Hillary had to fly for a funeral and had a heart attack on the plane Hillary returned to New York about 5 days later, and went to the cardiologist and the results showed Hillary had had a heart attack and the cardiologist again refused to approve Hillary for thyroid cancer surgery


0:07:00


Simultaneously, Hillary was working with a lawyer for 4 years fighting with disability insurer who said Hillary was making up her illness - the lawyer suggested to ask the cardiologist for a note for the insurance company - but the cardiologist refused - but the next day her staff notified Hillary that she'd been approved for surgery, so Hillary called the cardiologist and she said that it had just dawned on her that Hillary had cancer and needed surgery and "whatever happens, happens"


0:08:30


Several years later Hillary had heart attack symptoms again so made an appointment with the cardiologist - the cardiologist met Hillary in the waiting room and said she'd only agree to examine Hillary for a heart attack if she agreed to seek psychological counselling


0:10:00


About 6 years ago Hillary went to an ER with cardiac pain - they cared for her for 10 hours and recommend she see a cardiologist - this one said Hillary's symptoms were just stress - Hillary's EKGs are always wildly abnormal but she's given up trying to get help for it


0:11:00


Sometime, and usually now, Hillary does not disclose she has ME to a doctor - but even when she does disclose, it changes the relationship with the doctor, they pull back, not as friendly - there is no understanding or knowledge among doctors and we can thank CDC (Centre for Disease Control) and National Institutes of Health (NIH) - derogatory media worsens and they never stand up to contradict 


0:13:00


They are glad, it allows them to continue to barely fund research - an anecdote about naming ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) as CFS (<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome'>chronic fatigue syndrome</a>) and those CDC letters - one of the doctors made a joke that by calling it other than CFS would set up insurance companies for 'chronic' disbursements - in other words, protect the insurance companies


0:16:00


Simon Wessely in the United Kingdom has done a lot of damage saying ME is psychosomatic - after the CDC published its report and rolled out the name CFS - Wessely sent Holmes a letter, and you could almost see Wessely rubbing his hands together in gleeful anticipation - he congratulated on a wise choice in name and he had always thought ME was psychosomatic not organic and eager to collaborate for a long future


0:20:00


Hillary believes all the psychological proponents should be criminally charged - patients in the Netflix documentary <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwjuxa6r6cblAhUkm-AKHT45ABoQFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netflix.com%2Ftitle%2F80188953&usg=AOvVaw2jTZj5RG6iwi7ctZt0IFje'>Afflicted</a> are suing the producers for defamation - Hillary hopes they bankrupt Netflix - but the original defamers, Gary Holmes, John Kaplan, Larry Schonberger really controlled this disease: no funding, no resources, no epidemiology
 

 
Goose that laid the golden egg
 


0:21:45


Hillary believe there should be a trial in The Hague about ME - and wonders if it is possible to un-Knight someone in the UK (re Wessely) - Wessely's corollary in the US was Stephen Strauss - Hillary's editor said Strauss reminded him of the quote about the Nazis and 'the banality of evil'


0:24:00


The CDC obliterated ME patients by saying ME wasn't real - they caused problems with medical care and personal relationships with spouses and families - Cheney said so much of his time was taken by attorney's in divorce proceedings and testifying that ME patients were sick, not crazy


0:25:30


Hillary reported the crimes of the CDC and were followed up by 2 federal investigations and her allegations were confirmed - the CDC received money starting in 1988 for ME research, about half a millions first year, and more each year after - after a decade was $150 million, but the investigation only went back 2 years, about $13 million misappropriated


0:27:00


This funding was informally known as 'the goose that laid the golden egg' for all the scientists who were using ME funds for their pet projects, not for ME research - each spring the head of CDC would go Congress for more funding - Hillary has the letters, a list of lies - Hillary's contacts in the CDC were secretly telling her ME research was not being done - just lies for a decade


0:29:00


The investigation by Health and Human Services (HHS) and General Accounting Office (GAO) both confirmed Hillary's work in Osler's Web - she is bewildered why there has not been a lawsuit - Walter Dowd was Acting Deputy Director knew the money was misappropriated and said he would make it right - instead a whistleblower scientist was then stopped from accessing the CDC and shortly after left before he could be fired for spilling the beans


0:31:00


Was CDC ignorant, incompetent, colluding, sociopathic? Hillary found a letter posted in CDC, the infamous "Dear Sirs" letter - devastating satire and making fun of people very ill and laughing at their pain - it had been posted for over a year - and a few years later it was still posted


0:35:00


Larry Schonberger was very resistant to removing the "Dear Sirs" letter from the bulletin board but finally relented - it has come back to haunt them as Hillary included its full content in her book


0:37:00


Hillary saw a neurologist about 5 years ago and he asked about her symptoms - everything about this disease has befelled Hillary - small strokes, brain abnormalities, encephalitis 5 or 6 times - Hillary feels like she's in a dream: the old 'me' that lived for 35 years without ME, and the current 'me' who has lived with it for 35 years - its hard to believe she was that person - and often dreams of her life before - overall waste of time / life
 

 
Ampligen gives 9 healthy months
 


0:40:00


Pneumonia and the flu are like mosquito bites compared to ME - Hillary dreams about all the books she would've written, the number of friends she'd have - she found no way to express how devastating and terribly unwell she was to friends, they did not understand her life had changed, that she was suffering - as years went by it became easier not to try


0:42:00


The lives of her peers at age 35 look unreal compared to Hillary's reality - before illness, her life was full color and full of activity, many friends, she had talent, went places, had a career and identity - now her life is hazy black and white blur


0:44:00


The best 9 months of 35 years with ME was taking <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Ampligen'>Ampligen</a> - the disease impoverished Hillary, and she has remained poor, she does try to write and has a <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/'>subscription website</a> - she has written about ME, and that is about her life - Hillary has tried to stop thinking about all the bad things US, Canadian, British, etc governments have done to ME patients, but she's always sucked back in


0:46:30


No one has had Hillary's experience of living with this illness while being with these people laying down the policies - those interviews are still fresh in her mind - they are real flesh and blood people who took those actions and have failed Hillary and everyone else who has ME - she has a tremendous amount of anger


0:48:00


"Hillary Johnson, writing with quiet fury" is one her favorite lines from a review of her book - Harvey Wittemore, famous Nevadan and helped found the Wittemore Peterson Institute, said "I had a difficult time reading your book. I would get to the end of the page and be so angry I would want to throw the book at the wall" - that is what Hillary was going for - she still hopes some day the evidence laid out in her book serves as a basis for reparations and lawsuits from those who've had their lives destroyed and live in poverty - unfair, unjust, criminal and still going on


0:51:30


The book is one thing Hillary is pleased about, she only wishes she'd been healthy enough to do more


0:52:30


Hillary first heard about Ampligen when it was first given to a woman named Nancy Kaiser who was dying of ME - Dr Dan Peterson was reading about Ampligen, an immunomodulator and anti-viral - it was invented late 60s / early 70s, it is a drug, interferon, synthetic and it is non-toxic, even FDA admits it is safe - 1,000s of doses given to people with ME, it is probably most potent drug that could possible help people - does not help everyone, but helps most


0:54:10


Hillary managed to get Ampligen when she was ill for 29 years - it involved laying on your back for 4 hours for infusion, twice a week - at the beginning you want to feel like you want to crawl into a cave and sleep - but around 4th or 5th month, things started changing, very gradual - by 9th month a friend who did not know Hillary before she was ill, within 10 minutes said "you're completely different, I feel like I'm meeting you for the first time"
 

 
FDA denies Ampligen
 


0:55:45


Hillary was upright, felt sharp mentally, walking felt like gliding, a strange feeling and she finally realized that it was the first time since she was 35 years old that she was walking without any effort - no pain, or dragging her legs, not out of breath - this is how healthy people, but it had been so long for Hillary it felt unfamiliar - Ampligen is a fantastic drug


0:57:30


AIDS drugs were fast tracked with very little evidence they worked, but activists demanded access to medication because they made life hell for the people at the Food and Drug Administration - Hillary has talked to the CEO of <a href='https://aimimmuno.com/'>Hemispherx Biopharma</a> that make Ampligen, and he said "people with ME need to go to the parking lot of the FDA office in Maryland with a bunch of mattresses and set them on fire - something that will get people's attention"


0:59:00


He's right, but we never see that being done - people create petitions that get sent to someone who could care less - in about 2012 the hearings for approving Ampligen occurred and many patients arrived to testify how it had helped them - the FDA voted against approval, but said it was safe - Antony Kamaroff voted 'no' - Beth Unger who manages ME at CDC voted 'no' - so she's been useless


1:01:00


For some unknown reason, people with ME, a disease that destroys lives, are not allowed to have Ampligen - its safe, efficacious - is because medicare would have to pay for it? Is there concern from insurers? Why does FDA continue to deny proof of efficacy? - Hillary knows Canadians are trying to access it via a special access program


1:02:15


Hillary had to stop Ampligen because Hemispherx ran out of supply - it is very expensive to produce and they are a tiny company, and after that only people who could pay for it got access - she was receiving it on a compassionate care basis, she cannot afford Ampligen of $40k year plus infusion / nurse costs


1:03:30


After 3 or 4 months without Ampligen, Hillary's symptoms returned and walking became difficult again - this also adds to Hillary's anger


1:05:00


4 million Americans may have ME, 80% women, apparently their expendable - Hillary has lost about $1.5 million in income because of ME - Ampligen is a sad story, there are others who had Ampligen withdrawn - Hemispherx are using Ampligen in oncology trials in the US and Europe, maybe they can increase access to people with ME
 

 
Osler's Web
 


1:07:10


The only thing that ever helped Hillary, was Ampligen - gammaglobulin used to make her feel somewhat better - she hears talk now of low dose naltrexone, but there was talk about in 1987 - it feels like she's seeing a replay of the 1980s - but people much more activist oriented and they modeled their actions after AIDS activists


1:09:00


San Francisco city council held meetings about ME and invited doctors like Paul Cheney to testify, but you don't see that any more - now they tell their congress person their stories of woe, but Hillary says no one cares about those stories, and they do not change policy - healthy people don't want to hear about it - its not the way to go about making change


1:11:00


The only thing that motivates Hillary to write is ME - but does tweet a lot so is doing journalism by tweet but hates it - because it is simplistic it reduces reporting to the number of characters - twitter induces snarkiness - Hillary would like to do another book about having written Osler's Web, there is a big story of how she interacted with the subjects


1:13:00


The original Osler's Web manuscript was 3,200 pages and she had to cut 1,200 pages - while she often says 'don't write about yourself', in some circumstances you have to write about events you are involved - but her health is a challenge - in many ways Hillary is sicker then 10 years ago, more disabled - it must be ME combined with age


1:15:00


Hillary tries not to get angry and frustrated with herself and has to constantly remind herself that its not that she doesn't want to do 'that', its that she can't do 'that' because of this illness - but since she's been ill for so many years, she sometimes forgets that - Hillary says she's talked more about herself in this interview than any time before
 
Connect with Hillary Johnson
 


Website: <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/'>Osler's Web</a>


Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/oslersweb'>Osler's Web</a>


Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/oslersweb/'>Osler's Web</a>
 

 
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In part 2 journalist Hillary Johnson shares more about her work and her life. If you’re not familiar with the story of how a biological disease that occurs in sporadic and epidemic forms was labeled as ‘all in your head’ by the Centre for Disease Control, than you’ll want to hear how it all went down from the one person who uncovered the corruption.</p>
<p>Hillary talks about her healthiest 9 months in 35 years of being ill when she was taking Ampligen and why she’s not still taking it. Hillary shares about being banned from the Centre for Disease Control (CDC) for seeking the truth and how that didn’t stop her from writing <em>Osler’s Web</em>. Hillary also tells how the CDC and a United Kingdom psychiatrist obliterated the lives of millions of patients worldwide by perpetuating a psychosomatic label that denied them biomedical care.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>


 
Heart attack and cancer
 
0:06:00


The cardiologist found abnormal EKGs - myocardia eschemia, everything short of a heart attack and refused to approve Hillary for surgery until she found what was wrong with Hillary's heart - but Hillary had to fly for a funeral and had a heart attack on the plane Hillary returned to New York about 5 days later, and went to the cardiologist and the results showed Hillary had had a heart attack and the cardiologist again refused to approve Hillary for thyroid cancer surgery


0:07:00


Simultaneously, Hillary was working with a lawyer for 4 years fighting with disability insurer who said Hillary was making up her illness - the lawyer suggested to ask the cardiologist for a note for the insurance company - but the cardiologist refused - but the next day her staff notified Hillary that she'd been approved for surgery, so Hillary called the cardiologist and she said that it had just dawned on her that Hillary had cancer and needed surgery and "whatever happens, happens"


0:08:30


Several years later Hillary had heart attack symptoms again so made an appointment with the cardiologist - the cardiologist met Hillary in the waiting room and said she'd only agree to examine Hillary for a heart attack if she agreed to seek psychological counselling


0:10:00


About 6 years ago Hillary went to an ER with cardiac pain - they cared for her for 10 hours and recommend she see a cardiologist - this one said Hillary's symptoms were just stress - Hillary's EKGs are always wildly abnormal but she's given up trying to get help for it


0:11:00


Sometime, and usually now, Hillary does not disclose she has ME to a doctor - but even when she does disclose, it changes the relationship with the doctor, they pull back, not as friendly - there is no understanding or knowledge among doctors and we can thank CDC (Centre for Disease Control) and National Institutes of Health (NIH) - derogatory media worsens and they never stand up to contradict 


0:13:00


They are glad, it allows them to continue to barely fund research - an anecdote about naming ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) as CFS (<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome'>chronic fatigue syndrome</a>) and those CDC letters - one of the doctors made a joke that by calling it other than CFS would set up insurance companies for 'chronic' disbursements - in other words, protect the insurance companies


0:16:00


Simon Wessely in the United Kingdom has done a lot of damage saying ME is psychosomatic - after the CDC published its report and rolled out the name CFS - Wessely sent Holmes a letter, and you could almost see Wessely rubbing his hands together in gleeful anticipation - he congratulated on a wise choice in name and he had always thought ME was psychosomatic not organic and eager to collaborate for a long future


0:20:00


Hillary believes all the psychological proponents should be criminally charged - patients in the Netflix documentary <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwjuxa6r6cblAhUkm-AKHT45ABoQFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netflix.com%2Ftitle%2F80188953&usg=AOvVaw2jTZj5RG6iwi7ctZt0IFje'>Afflicted</a> are suing the producers for defamation - Hillary hopes they bankrupt Netflix - but the original defamers, Gary Holmes, John Kaplan, Larry Schonberger really controlled this disease: no funding, no resources, no epidemiology
 

 
Goose that laid the golden egg
 


0:21:45


Hillary believe there should be a trial in The Hague about ME - and wonders if it is possible to un-Knight someone in the UK (re Wessely) - Wessely's corollary in the US was Stephen Strauss - Hillary's editor said Strauss reminded him of the quote about the Nazis and 'the banality of evil'


0:24:00


The CDC obliterated ME patients by saying ME wasn't real - they caused problems with medical care and personal relationships with spouses and families - Cheney said so much of his time was taken by attorney's in divorce proceedings and testifying that ME patients were sick, not crazy


0:25:30


Hillary reported the crimes of the CDC and were followed up by 2 federal investigations and her allegations were confirmed - the CDC received money starting in 1988 for ME research, about half a millions first year, and more each year after - after a decade was $150 million, but the investigation only went back 2 years, about $13 million misappropriated


0:27:00


This funding was informally known as 'the goose that laid the golden egg' for all the scientists who were using ME funds for their pet projects, not for ME research - each spring the head of CDC would go Congress for more funding - Hillary has the letters, a list of lies - Hillary's contacts in the CDC were secretly telling her ME research was not being done - just lies for a decade


0:29:00


The investigation by Health and Human Services (HHS) and General Accounting Office (GAO) both confirmed Hillary's work in Osler's Web - she is bewildered why there has not been a lawsuit - Walter Dowd was Acting Deputy Director knew the money was misappropriated and said he would make it right - instead a whistleblower scientist was then stopped from accessing the CDC and shortly after left before he could be fired for spilling the beans


0:31:00


Was CDC ignorant, incompetent, colluding, sociopathic? Hillary found a letter posted in CDC, the infamous "Dear Sirs" letter - devastating satire and making fun of people very ill and laughing at their pain - it had been posted for over a year - and a few years later it was still posted


0:35:00


Larry Schonberger was very resistant to removing the "Dear Sirs" letter from the bulletin board but finally relented - it has come back to haunt them as Hillary included its full content in her book


0:37:00


Hillary saw a neurologist about 5 years ago and he asked about her symptoms - everything about this disease has befelled Hillary - small strokes, brain abnormalities, encephalitis 5 or 6 times - Hillary feels like she's in a dream: the old 'me' that lived for 35 years without ME, and the current 'me' who has lived with it for 35 years - its hard to believe she was that person - and often dreams of her life before - overall waste of time / life
 

 
Ampligen gives 9 healthy months
 


0:40:00


Pneumonia and the flu are like mosquito bites compared to ME - Hillary dreams about all the books she would've written, the number of friends she'd have - she found no way to express how devastating and terribly unwell she was to friends, they did not understand her life had changed, that she was suffering - as years went by it became easier not to try


0:42:00


The lives of her peers at age 35 look unreal compared to Hillary's reality - before illness, her life was full color and full of activity, many friends, she had talent, went places, had a career and identity - now her life is hazy black and white blur


0:44:00


The best 9 months of 35 years with ME was taking <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Ampligen'>Ampligen</a> - the disease impoverished Hillary, and she has remained poor, she does try to write and has a <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/'>subscription website</a> - she has written about ME, and that is about her life - Hillary has tried to stop thinking about all the bad things US, Canadian, British, etc governments have done to ME patients, but she's always sucked back in


0:46:30


No one has had Hillary's experience of living with this illness while being with these people laying down the policies - those interviews are still fresh in her mind - they are real flesh and blood people who took those actions and have failed Hillary and everyone else who has ME - she has a tremendous amount of anger


0:48:00


"Hillary Johnson, writing with quiet fury" is one her favorite lines from a review of her book - Harvey Wittemore, famous Nevadan and helped found the Wittemore Peterson Institute, said "I had a difficult time reading your book. I would get to the end of the page and be so angry I would want to throw the book at the wall" - that is what Hillary was going for - she still hopes some day the evidence laid out in her book serves as a basis for reparations and lawsuits from those who've had their lives destroyed and live in poverty - unfair, unjust, criminal and still going on


0:51:30


The book is one thing Hillary is pleased about, she only wishes she'd been healthy enough to do more


0:52:30


Hillary first heard about Ampligen when it was first given to a woman named Nancy Kaiser who was dying of ME - Dr Dan Peterson was reading about Ampligen, an immunomodulator and anti-viral - it was invented late 60s / early 70s, it is a drug, interferon, synthetic and it is non-toxic, even FDA admits it is safe - 1,000s of doses given to people with ME, it is probably most potent drug that could possible help people - does not help everyone, but helps most


0:54:10


Hillary managed to get Ampligen when she was ill for 29 years - it involved laying on your back for 4 hours for infusion, twice a week - at the beginning you want to feel like you want to crawl into a cave and sleep - but around 4th or 5th month, things started changing, very gradual - by 9th month a friend who did not know Hillary before she was ill, within 10 minutes said "you're completely different, I feel like I'm meeting you for the first time"
 

 
FDA denies Ampligen
 


0:55:45


Hillary was upright, felt sharp mentally, walking felt like gliding, a strange feeling and she finally realized that it was the first time since she was 35 years old that she was walking without any effort - no pain, or dragging her legs, not out of breath - this is how healthy people, but it had been so long for Hillary it felt unfamiliar - Ampligen is a fantastic drug


0:57:30


AIDS drugs were fast tracked with very little evidence they worked, but activists demanded access to medication because they made life hell for the people at the Food and Drug Administration - Hillary has talked to the CEO of <a href='https://aimimmuno.com/'>Hemispherx Biopharma</a> that make Ampligen, and he said "people with ME need to go to the parking lot of the FDA office in Maryland with a bunch of mattresses and set them on fire - something that will get people's attention"


0:59:00


He's right, but we never see that being done - people create petitions that get sent to someone who could care less - in about 2012 the hearings for approving Ampligen occurred and many patients arrived to testify how it had helped them - the FDA voted against approval, but said it was safe - Antony Kamaroff voted 'no' - Beth Unger who manages ME at CDC voted 'no' - so she's been useless


1:01:00


For some unknown reason, people with ME, a disease that destroys lives, are not allowed to have Ampligen - its safe, efficacious - is because medicare would have to pay for it? Is there concern from insurers? Why does FDA continue to deny proof of efficacy? - Hillary knows Canadians are trying to access it via a special access program


1:02:15


Hillary had to stop Ampligen because Hemispherx ran out of supply - it is very expensive to produce and they are a tiny company, and after that only people who could pay for it got access - she was receiving it on a compassionate care basis, she cannot afford Ampligen of $40k year plus infusion / nurse costs


1:03:30


After 3 or 4 months without Ampligen, Hillary's symptoms returned and walking became difficult again - this also adds to Hillary's anger


1:05:00


4 million Americans may have ME, 80% women, apparently their expendable - Hillary has lost about $1.5 million in income because of ME - Ampligen is a sad story, there are others who had Ampligen withdrawn - Hemispherx are using Ampligen in oncology trials in the US and Europe, maybe they can increase access to people with ME
 

 
Osler's Web
 


1:07:10


The only thing that ever helped Hillary, was Ampligen - gammaglobulin used to make her feel somewhat better - she hears talk now of low dose naltrexone, but there was talk about in 1987 - it feels like she's seeing a replay of the 1980s - but people much more activist oriented and they modeled their actions after AIDS activists


1:09:00


San Francisco city council held meetings about ME and invited doctors like Paul Cheney to testify, but you don't see that any more - now they tell their congress person their stories of woe, but Hillary says no one cares about those stories, and they do not change policy - healthy people don't want to hear about it - its not the way to go about making change


1:11:00


The only thing that motivates Hillary to write is ME - but does tweet a lot so is doing journalism by tweet but hates it - because it is simplistic it reduces reporting to the number of characters - twitter induces snarkiness - Hillary would like to do another book about having written Osler's Web, there is a big story of how she interacted with the subjects


1:13:00


The original Osler's Web manuscript was 3,200 pages and she had to cut 1,200 pages - while she often says 'don't write about yourself', in some circumstances you have to write about events you are involved - but her health is a challenge - in many ways Hillary is sicker then 10 years ago, more disabled - it must be ME combined with age


1:15:00


Hillary tries not to get angry and frustrated with herself and has to constantly remind herself that its not that she doesn't want to do 'that', its that she can't do 'that' because of this illness - but since she's been ill for so many years, she sometimes forgets that - Hillary says she's talked more about herself in this interview than any time before
 
Connect with Hillary Johnson
 


Website: <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/'>Osler's Web</a>


Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/oslersweb'>Osler's Web</a>


Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/oslersweb/'>Osler's Web</a>
 

 
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Hillary talks about her healthiest 9 months in 35 years of being ill when she was taking Ampligen and why she’s not still taking it. Hillary shares about being banned from the Centre for Disease Control (CDC) for seeking the truth and how that didn’t stop her from writing Osler’s Web. Hillary also tells how the CDC and a United Kingdom psychiatrist obliterated the lives of millions of patients worldwide by perpetuating a psychosomatic label that denied them biomedical care.
 
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Heart attack and cancer
 
0:06:00


The cardiologist found abnormal EKGs - myocardia eschemia, everything short of a heart attack and refused to approve Hillary for surgery until she found what was wrong with Hillary's heart - but Hillary had to fly for a funeral and had a heart attack on the plane Hillary returned to New York about 5 days later, and went to the cardiologist and the results showed Hillary had had a heart attack and the cardiologist again refused to approve Hillary for thyroid cancer surgery


0:07:00


Simultaneously, Hillary was working with a lawyer for 4 years fighting with disability insurer who said Hillary was making up her illness - the lawyer suggested to ask the cardiologist for a note for the insurance company - but the cardiologist refused - but the next day her staff notified Hillary that she'd been approved for surgery, so Hillary called the cardiologist and she said that it had just dawned on her that Hillary had cancer and needed surgery and "whatever happens, happens"


0:08:30


Several years later Hillary had heart attack symptoms again so made an appointment with the cardiologist - the cardiologist met Hillary in the waiting room and said she'd only agree to examine Hillary for a heart attack if she agreed to seek psychological counselling


0:10:00


About 6 years ago Hillary went to an ER with cardiac pain - they cared for her for 10 hours and recommend she see a cardiologist - this one said Hillary's symptoms were just stress - Hillary's EKGs are always wildly abnormal but she's given up trying to get help for it


0:11:00


Sometime, and usually now, Hillary does not disclose she has ME to a doctor - but even when she does disclose, it changes the relationship with the doctor, they pull back, not as friendly - there is no understanding or knowledge among doctors and we can thank CDC (Centre for Disease Control) and National Institutes of Health (NIH) - derogatory media worsens and they never stand up to contradict 


0:13:00


They are glad, it allows them to continue to barely fund research - an anecdote about naming ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) as CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) and those CDC letters - one of the doctors made a joke that by calling it other than CFS would set up insurance companies for 'chronic' disbursements - in other words, protect the insurance companies


0:16:00


Simon Wessely in the United Kingdom has done a lot of damage saying ME is psychosomatic - after the CDC published its report and rolled out the name CFS - Wessely sent Holmes a letter, and you could almost see Wessely rubbing his hands together in gleeful anticipation - he congratulated on a wise choice in name and he had always thought ME was psychosomatic not organic and eager to collaborate for a long future


0:20:00


Hillary believes all the psychological proponents should be criminally charged - patients in the Netflix documentary Afflicted are suing the producers for defamation - Hillary hopes they bankrupt Netflix - but the original defamers, Gary Holmes, John Kaplan, Larry Schonberger really controlled this disease: no funding, no resources, no epid]]></itunes:summary>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Osler’s Web author and whistleblower Hillary Johnson got up close and personal with the heroes and villains inside the medical industry. Motivated by her investigative journalistic sense of health care corruption, and by her own experience with chronic illness and medical errors, Hillary exposed the $150 million criminal diversion of researching funding that prompted two federal investigations.</p>
<p>In part 1 of the interview, Hillary shares about her early life and passion for writing, working for major magazines like Rolling Stone, and how a mysterious illness derailed her sky-rocketing bi-coastal career.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Always a Writer</p>

0:05:30


Hillary born in <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis'>Minneapolis</a>, Minnesota - lots lakes, father had a huge sailboat and race it every summer - in winter Hillary skied and skated - wonderful childhood but marred by parents divorce when she was 12 - Hillary wanted to live at an elite girl's boarding school - an incredible advantage to attend - later attended UC Berkeley for undergrad degree in journalism, the only thing she ever wanted to do - moved to New York to attend Columbia University for a Master's in Journalism 


0:09:30


Hillary has been obsessed with writing her whole childhood - had written 3 novels by the time she finished grade school - Hillary's mother was very literary person, read 2 or 3 books a week, and pass along to Hillary - and she become comfortable with language and was encouraged by her mother


0:11:20


First job was a newspaper reporter for Minneapolis Tribune - but a very sexist environment, only 2 women reporters on staff, Hillary was sexually harassed - hired to Congressional Quarterly in Washington DC, but again sexual discrimination in that workplace 


0:13:15


Hillary then worked at Women's Wear Daily, a very trendy newspaper - also covered culture, Hillary assignment - could interview writers she admired, business people (Malcolm Forbes), Watergate prosecutor...fascinating people of the time - did for a couple of years then hired by Life Magazine, a news reporter for 4 years


0:15:05


At age 31, Hillary decided to leave Life to do freelance work - was a contributor to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stone'>Rolling Stone</a> magazine - wrote for all major New York publications - a wonderful life - traveling back and forth between her 2 apartments in New York and Los Angeles


0:16:30


When in LA in March 1986 to work on her first book - on March 8th woke up sick and that was the end of her journalism career as she had known it - but it took about a year for her editors to get the message because they kept calling asking her to work - Hillary didn't want to believe she was permanently sick


0:17:30


Hillary was soon diagnosed with encephalitis - it was hard to explain to people neurological deficits - on morning of March 8th, within 2 steps of walking she crashed into the wall - she was supposed to go with her fiancee to meet his father and they drove to another city but Hillary was too sick to raise her head to look at him


0:20:00


Hillary had very high fever, extremely sore throat - she couldn't understand the conversation at lunch - went to washroom and passed out and had to be carried out - Hillary lost consciousness multiple times that day, could barely walk - she knew she was incredibly ill but couldn't imagine what it could be
 

 
Outbreak
 


0:21:30


Hillary's fiancee was alarmed - they knew each other about year - Hillary just got worse until she was bed ridden, unable to walk - he took her to see a doctor, but had to be carried - by chance, this doctor had been talking with his friend at the CDC (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention'>Centre for Disease Control</a>) so was aware of Hillary's symptoms but didn't have a name for it, but had been seeing 20 to 30 patients a month with identical symptoms 


0:23:30


Hillary was wheeled into the waiting room - after 2 years of Hillary being severely ill, her fiancee moved on and the relationship ended and she moved back to New York


0:25:15


Hillary has been sick for 35 years and has had many, many experiences of outrageous behavior by doctors - the first doctor she saw said he didn't know what was making her sick, but that she should be fine in 2 years but don't come see me before then - Hillary realized she was really alone with her illness


0:26:50


About 6 months later, Hillary felt like she was dying and called that doctor - he was very angry, told her not to call him because he has seriously ill patients in his waiting room - Hillary was shocked and realized she was alone with her illness


0:27:50


An article in the LA Times about an outbreak in <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/1984_Incline_Village_chronic_fatigue_syndrome_outbreak'>Incline Village</a>, Nevada - Hillary later wrote a book about the Incline Village outbreak: in 1984 the rich enclave had an outbreak of ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) - large percentage of people fell it, perhaps 300 and more who never went to see the town doctors - 6 doctors in town, but only 2 were highly competent: Paul Cheney and Dan Peterson, both knew a lot about infectious disease


0:30:30


The outbreak got a lot of publicity in mainstream media - Hillary would find out later the CDC had been receiving calls from all over the US and the world about this disease for quite a long time before Incline Village - but CDC simply did not want to believe it was a disease, they called it hysteria and tried dismiss it - a very political move


0:32:30


CDC sent 2 investigators - one very inexperienced - the more experienced stayed 5 days and did not interview any patients - the other one, Gary Holmes, stayed about 10 days and examined a few patient, unwillingly - Dr Cheney said Holmes preferred reviewing charts in the office and didn't want to meet patients - Hillary interviewed those patients, and they felt like they were imposing on Holmes


0:33:45


Hillary later uncovered that the CDC had been receiving reports about this for quite a few years, so was already spreading, especially on the US coasts - San Francisco and Los Angeles were seething - so Incline Village was not ground zero - its importance was that the CDC had a chance to do serious science, but they didn't do that


0:36:30


Because so many patients were women, CDC decided it was hysteria - except there were men sick too - more cynical explanation is the AIDS pandemic already caused a lot of concern, and the government couldn't bear to acknowledge it
 

 
Banned from CDC
 


0:38:30


Prior to the CDC involvement, previous outbreaks had no hint of a psychosomatic explanation, but was a transmissible disease - no other explanation why the disease would explode - the US government probably knew it was infectious based on immunology - one of the first findings in ME in very low natural killer cell (NK) function, published in 1992 - only see low NK in cancer and infection


0:40:30


Many examples of ME research that scream infection - because ME happened concurrently with AIDS is an important clue that should be examined - Hillary says there was concerning at the CDC about long term disability payouts if credence was given to ME - Hillary accessed via FOI (freedom of information request), letters of 5 -10 scientists who worked with Holmes to come up with a name for the disease


0:43:30


They considered 'myalgic encephalomyelitis' and ruled it out because it implied it was a real, organic disease and they didn't want to do that, it was clear in those letters - but the all time favorite name was 'chronic fatigue syndrome' (CFS) and it did not imply it was infectious, so no public panic - the term inspired hatred of the people with this disease


0:45:30


People with ME were renamed as having CFS and experienced ridicule, dislike, disgust, outcast - the name had an incredibly powerful impact - Dr Anthony Kamaroff at Harvard was key in the naming, but has subsequently apologized - he claims at the time he did not foresee how damaging the name would be - but no one else has apologized


0:47:00


<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Straus'>Stephen Strauss</a> and <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Gantz'>Dr Nelson Gantz</a> are both dead - Holmes tried to engage a famous infectious disease specialist, Elliott Keith, and he was part of naming process for a while, but when they decided on CFS he wrote a letter of contempt and withdrew his support and asked if they were trying to create another psychological syndrome


0:49:00


Hillary's book about this is titled: <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/'>Osler's Web: Inside the Labyrinth of the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic</a> - Hillary was forced to use CFS in the title in 1985 for marketing purposes - the book was written for the general public, but mostly read by ME patients - took 10 years to write while very ill and poor - $700 / month for a decade - its still <a href='https://www.amazon.ca/Oslers-Web-Labyrinth-Syndrome-Epidemic/dp/0595348742'>available on Amazon</a>, but Hillary never made a penny from the book


0:52:00


Back to Hillary's personal experience: she was feeling like she was dying and called her doctor and he dismissed and chastised her - Hillary says what is different in 2019 is social media


0:53:30


Patients don't feel as isolated as in the 80s - a CDC supervisor referred to Hillary as 'live and in captivity', reducing her to an animal - his point was that it was rare, there was no outbreak - he later banned Hillary from the CDC, that didn't stop Hillary and she set up office in the lobby and use the public pay phone
 
 
 
Encephalitis
 


0:56:30


Hillary asked many CDC scientists for an interview and interviewed quite a few after she was banned


0:58:15


Hillary was very ill for 6 months, couldn't walk, barley lift her head off the pillow, had already been diagnosed with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalitis'>encephalitis</a> - but she was still being asked to work, and didn't want to disclose how seriously ill she was - the editor at Rolling Stone kept asking 


1:00:00


Hillary made the connection between cases in Los Angeles and in Incline Village and mentioned to her editor at Rolling Stone that it could be a big story and he wanted her to explore it - as ill as she was, she began to investigate and talked to the person in charge of epidemiology of LA county and she said they were getting lots of calls about this disease, more then AIDS - she said she was very concerned


1:02:00


But everybody was working on AIDS, and there was no staff to work on ME - Hillary dragged herself to Incline Village and spoke to Paul Cheney - Hillary realized her life was about to change - she felt Cheney had almost solved the disease in '86


1:03:30


Cheney had done a lot of investigation and gathered much info - Hillary knew Cheney was an extraordinary figure and a book could be built around him - he was primary figure and inspiration - but the story got bigger than Cheney - she has 100s of hours of interviews with Cheney


1:05:30


Hillary also interviewed Dan Peterson a lot, who was resistant to speak to a journalist but warmed to and trusted Hillary


1:06:30


Hillary's most outrageous experience with health care was with a woman cardiologist - Hillary had thyroid cancer in 2008, it was like a head cold compared to ME, it was 'no biggie' - given what she'd been through in 20 years with ME - cancer was not a surprise - the only thing that frightened her was the anaesthesia which can be difficult for ME patients


1:09:30


Hillary was ready to die, having been so ill - after 35 years its hard to remember what normal is 


1:10:30


The cardiologist found abnormal EKGs - <a href='https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/myocardial-ischemia/symptoms-causes/syc-20375417'>myocardial eschemia</a>, everything short of a heart attack and refused to approve Hillary for surgery until she found what was wrong with Hillary's heart - but Hillary had to fly for a funeral and had a heart attack on the plane


END OF PART ONE OF INTERVIEW
 
Connect with Hillary Johnson
 


Website: <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/'>Osler's Web</a>


Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/oslersweb'>Osler's Web</a>


Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/oslersweb/'>Osler's Web</a>

 

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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Osler’s Web author and whistleblower Hillary Johnson got up close and personal with the heroes and villains inside the medical industry. Motivated by her investigative journalistic sense of health care corruption, and by her own experience with chronic illness and medical errors, Hillary exposed the $150 million criminal diversion of researching funding that prompted two federal investigations.</p>
<p>In part 1 of the interview, Hillary shares about her early life and passion for writing, working for major magazines like Rolling Stone, and how a mysterious illness derailed her sky-rocketing bi-coastal career.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Always a Writer</p>

0:05:30


Hillary born in <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis'>Minneapolis</a>, Minnesota - lots lakes, father had a huge sailboat and race it every summer - in winter Hillary skied and skated - wonderful childhood but marred by parents divorce when she was 12 - Hillary wanted to live at an elite girl's boarding school - an incredible advantage to attend - later attended UC Berkeley for undergrad degree in journalism, the only thing she ever wanted to do - moved to New York to attend Columbia University for a Master's in Journalism 


0:09:30


Hillary has been obsessed with writing her whole childhood - had written 3 novels by the time she finished grade school - Hillary's mother was very literary person, read 2 or 3 books a week, and pass along to Hillary - and she become comfortable with language and was encouraged by her mother


0:11:20


First job was a newspaper reporter for Minneapolis Tribune - but a very sexist environment, only 2 women reporters on staff, Hillary was sexually harassed - hired to Congressional Quarterly in Washington DC, but again sexual discrimination in that workplace 


0:13:15


Hillary then worked at Women's Wear Daily, a very trendy newspaper - also covered culture, Hillary assignment - could interview writers she admired, business people (Malcolm Forbes), Watergate prosecutor...fascinating people of the time - did for a couple of years then hired by Life Magazine, a news reporter for 4 years


0:15:05


At age 31, Hillary decided to leave Life to do freelance work - was a contributor to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stone'>Rolling Stone</a> magazine - wrote for all major New York publications - a wonderful life - traveling back and forth between her 2 apartments in New York and Los Angeles


0:16:30


When in LA in March 1986 to work on her first book - on March 8th woke up sick and that was the end of her journalism career as she had known it - but it took about a year for her editors to get the message because they kept calling asking her to work - Hillary didn't want to believe she was permanently sick


0:17:30


Hillary was soon diagnosed with encephalitis - it was hard to explain to people neurological deficits - on morning of March 8th, within 2 steps of walking she crashed into the wall - she was supposed to go with her fiancee to meet his father and they drove to another city but Hillary was too sick to raise her head to look at him


0:20:00


Hillary had very high fever, extremely sore throat - she couldn't understand the conversation at lunch - went to washroom and passed out and had to be carried out - Hillary lost consciousness multiple times that day, could barely walk - she knew she was incredibly ill but couldn't imagine what it could be
 

 
Outbreak
 


0:21:30


Hillary's fiancee was alarmed - they knew each other about year - Hillary just got worse until she was bed ridden, unable to walk - he took her to see a doctor, but had to be carried - by chance, this doctor had been talking with his friend at the CDC (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention'>Centre for Disease Control</a>) so was aware of Hillary's symptoms but didn't have a name for it, but had been seeing 20 to 30 patients a month with identical symptoms 


0:23:30


Hillary was wheeled into the waiting room - after 2 years of Hillary being severely ill, her fiancee moved on and the relationship ended and she moved back to New York


0:25:15


Hillary has been sick for 35 years and has had many, many experiences of outrageous behavior by doctors - the first doctor she saw said he didn't know what was making her sick, but that she should be fine in 2 years but don't come see me before then - Hillary realized she was really alone with her illness


0:26:50


About 6 months later, Hillary felt like she was dying and called that doctor - he was very angry, told her not to call him because he has seriously ill patients in his waiting room - Hillary was shocked and realized she was alone with her illness


0:27:50


An article in the LA Times about an outbreak in <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/1984_Incline_Village_chronic_fatigue_syndrome_outbreak'>Incline Village</a>, Nevada - Hillary later wrote a book about the Incline Village outbreak: in 1984 the rich enclave had an outbreak of ME (<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>) - large percentage of people fell it, perhaps 300 and more who never went to see the town doctors - 6 doctors in town, but only 2 were highly competent: Paul Cheney and Dan Peterson, both knew a lot about infectious disease


0:30:30


The outbreak got a lot of publicity in mainstream media - Hillary would find out later the CDC had been receiving calls from all over the US and the world about this disease for quite a long time before Incline Village - but CDC simply did not want to believe it was a disease, they called it hysteria and tried dismiss it - a very political move


0:32:30


CDC sent 2 investigators - one very inexperienced - the more experienced stayed 5 days and did not interview any patients - the other one, Gary Holmes, stayed about 10 days and examined a few patient, unwillingly - Dr Cheney said Holmes preferred reviewing charts in the office and didn't want to meet patients - Hillary interviewed those patients, and they felt like they were imposing on Holmes


0:33:45


Hillary later uncovered that the CDC had been receiving reports about this for quite a few years, so was already spreading, especially on the US coasts - San Francisco and Los Angeles were seething - so Incline Village was not ground zero - its importance was that the CDC had a chance to do serious science, but they didn't do that


0:36:30


Because so many patients were women, CDC decided it was hysteria - except there were men sick too - more cynical explanation is the AIDS pandemic already caused a lot of concern, and the government couldn't bear to acknowledge it
 

 
Banned from CDC
 


0:38:30


Prior to the CDC involvement, previous outbreaks had no hint of a psychosomatic explanation, but was a transmissible disease - no other explanation why the disease would explode - the US government probably knew it was infectious based on immunology - one of the first findings in ME in very low natural killer cell (NK) function, published in 1992 - only see low NK in cancer and infection


0:40:30


Many examples of ME research that scream infection - because ME happened concurrently with AIDS is an important clue that should be examined - Hillary says there was concerning at the CDC about long term disability payouts if credence was given to ME - Hillary accessed via FOI (freedom of information request), letters of 5 -10 scientists who worked with Holmes to come up with a name for the disease


0:43:30


They considered 'myalgic encephalomyelitis' and ruled it out because it implied it was a real, organic disease and they didn't want to do that, it was clear in those letters - but the all time favorite name was 'chronic fatigue syndrome' (CFS) and it did not imply it was infectious, so no public panic - the term inspired hatred of the people with this disease


0:45:30


People with ME were renamed as having CFS and experienced ridicule, dislike, disgust, outcast - the name had an incredibly powerful impact - Dr Anthony Kamaroff at Harvard was key in the naming, but has subsequently apologized - he claims at the time he did not foresee how damaging the name would be - but no one else has apologized


0:47:00


<a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Straus'>Stephen Strauss</a> and <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Gantz'>Dr Nelson Gantz</a> are both dead - Holmes tried to engage a famous infectious disease specialist, Elliott Keith, and he was part of naming process for a while, but when they decided on CFS he wrote a letter of contempt and withdrew his support and asked if they were trying to create another psychological syndrome


0:49:00


Hillary's book about this is titled: <a href='https://www.oslersweb.com/'>Osler's Web: Inside the Labyrinth of the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic</a> - Hillary was forced to use CFS in the title in 1985 for marketing purposes - the book was written for the general public, but mostly read by ME patients - took 10 years to write while very ill and poor - $700 / month for a decade - its still <a href='https://www.amazon.ca/Oslers-Web-Labyrinth-Syndrome-Epidemic/dp/0595348742'>available on Amazon</a>, but Hillary never made a penny from the book


0:52:00


Back to Hillary's personal experience: she was feeling like she was dying and called her doctor and he dismissed and chastised her - Hillary says what is different in 2019 is social media


0:53:30


Patients don't feel as isolated as in the 80s - a CDC supervisor referred to Hillary as 'live and in captivity', reducing her to an animal - his point was that it was rare, there was no outbreak - he later banned Hillary from the CDC, that didn't stop Hillary and she set up office in the lobby and use the public pay phone
 
 
 
Encephalitis
 


0:56:30


Hillary asked many CDC scientists for an interview and interviewed quite a few after she was banned


0:58:15


Hillary was very ill for 6 months, couldn't walk, barley lift her head off the pillow, had already been diagnosed with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalitis'>encephalitis</a> - but she was still being asked to work, and didn't want to disclose how seriously ill she was - the editor at Rolling Stone kept asking 


1:00:00


Hillary made the connection between cases in Los Angeles and in Incline Village and mentioned to her editor at Rolling Stone that it could be a big story and he wanted her to explore it - as ill as she was, she began to investigate and talked to the person in charge of epidemiology of LA county and she said they were getting lots of calls about this disease, more then AIDS - she said she was very concerned


1:02:00


But everybody was working on AIDS, and there was no staff to work on ME - Hillary dragged herself to Incline Village and spoke to Paul Cheney - Hillary realized her life was about to change - she felt Cheney had almost solved the disease in '86


1:03:30


Cheney had done a lot of investigation and gathered much info - Hillary knew Cheney was an extraordinary figure and a book could be built around him - he was primary figure and inspiration - but the story got bigger than Cheney - she has 100s of hours of interviews with Cheney


1:05:30


Hillary also interviewed Dan Peterson a lot, who was resistant to speak to a journalist but warmed to and trusted Hillary


1:06:30


Hillary's most outrageous experience with health care was with a woman cardiologist - Hillary had thyroid cancer in 2008, it was like a head cold compared to ME, it was 'no biggie' - given what she'd been through in 20 years with ME - cancer was not a surprise - the only thing that frightened her was the anaesthesia which can be difficult for ME patients


1:09:30


Hillary was ready to die, having been so ill - after 35 years its hard to remember what normal is 


1:10:30


The cardiologist found abnormal EKGs - <a href='https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/myocardial-ischemia/symptoms-causes/syc-20375417'>myocardial eschemia</a>, everything short of a heart attack and refused to approve Hillary for surgery until she found what was wrong with Hillary's heart - but Hillary had to fly for a funeral and had a heart attack on the plane


END OF PART ONE OF INTERVIEW
 
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Always a Writer

0:05:30


Hillary born in Minneapolis, Minnesota - lots lakes, father had a huge sailboat and race it every summer - in winter Hillary skied and skated - wonderful childhood but marred by parents divorce when she was 12 - Hillary wanted to live at an elite girl's boarding school - an incredible advantage to attend - later attended UC Berkeley for undergrad degree in journalism, the only thing she ever wanted to do - moved to New York to attend Columbia University for a Master's in Journalism 


0:09:30


Hillary has been obsessed with writing her whole childhood - had written 3 novels by the time she finished grade school - Hillary's mother was very literary person, read 2 or 3 books a week, and pass along to Hillary - and she become comfortable with language and was encouraged by her mother


0:11:20


First job was a newspaper reporter for Minneapolis Tribune - but a very sexist environment, only 2 women reporters on staff, Hillary was sexually harassed - hired to Congressional Quarterly in Washington DC, but again sexual discrimination in that workplace 


0:13:15


Hillary then worked at Women's Wear Daily, a very trendy newspaper - also covered culture, Hillary assignment - could interview writers she admired, business people (Malcolm Forbes), Watergate prosecutor...fascinating people of the time - did for a couple of years then hired by Life Magazine, a news reporter for 4 years


0:15:05


At age 31, Hillary decided to leave Life to do freelance work - was a contributor to Rolling Stone magazine - wrote for all major New York publications - a wonderful life - traveling back and forth between her 2 apartments in New York and Los Angeles


0:16:30


When in LA in March 1986 to work on her first book - on March 8th woke up sick and that was the end of her journalism career as she had known it - but it took about a year for her editors to get the message because they kept calling asking her to work - Hillary didn't want to believe she was permanently sick


0:17:30


Hillary was soon diagnosed with encephalitis - it was hard to explain to people neurological deficits - on morning of March 8th, within 2 steps of walking she crashed into the wall - she was supposed to go with her fiancee to meet his father and they drove to another city but Hillary was too sick to raise her head to look at him


0:20:00


Hillary had very high fever, extremely sore throat - she couldn't understand the conversation at lunch - went to washroom and passed out and had to be carried out - Hillary lost consciousness multiple times that day, could barely walk - she knew she was incredibly ill but couldn't imagine what it could be
 

 
Outbreak
 


0:21:30


Hillary's fiancee was alarmed - they knew each other about year - Hillary just got worse until she was bed ridden, unable to walk - he took her to see a doctor, but had to be carried - by chance, this doctor had been talking with his friend at the CDC (Centre for Disease Control) so was aware of Hillary's symptoms but didn't have a name for it, but had been seeing 20 to 30 patients a month with identical symptoms 


0:23:30


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0:25:15


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Award winning detective mystery author Jayne Barnard has been permanently harmed by medical error: multiple doctors over multiple decades failed to investigate if chronic dehydration from medication was slowly killing Jayne.</p>
<p>Through her own research and tenacity - and in spite of a neglectful and ignorant health care system - Jayne has come back from years of being bed bound and non-functional and unable to communicate, to pursue her creative passion for writing. </p>
<p>Jayne is still quite disabled and needs oxygen and regular saline IVs in order to function for 15 minutes out of every hour. Recently she started a new medication and it is the 1st time in 27 years that her neck muscles were strong enough to hold up her head without pain and collapse.</p>
<p>Jayne shares how she had to orchestrate her own diagnosis and treatment, how she managed to live for years being severely sick and disabled and cared for by her family, and how she created her own incredible stranger-than-fiction narrative by producing award winning writing and snagging a 3 book publishing deal for The Falls Mysteries trilogy from a mostly horizontal life.</p>
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<p>Sick Baby</p>

0:05:40


Jayne's father was in the military, air force, so although born in <a href='https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=mac_bm&sxsrf=ACYBGNTPQIXNwhmticFxmUkyYuMmPyeFzQ%3A1571354746921&source=hp&ei=evioXZrANZCosgWVu4CQDQ&q=map+Cold+Lake%2C+Alberta&oq=map+Cold+Lake%2C+Alberta&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39j0l9.1820.2790..2919...0.0..0.158.580.0j4......0....1j2..gws-wiz.......0i131.H61s8sEy6Ks&ved=0ahUKEwia5YPMuKTlAhUQlKwKHZUdANIQ4dUDCAs&uact=5'>Cold Lake, Alberta</a> (Canada) and was an ill baby, spent a lot of first year in the hospital - her family was terrified she'd be dead before her first birthday - started as a kidney infection, very high fever


0:06:45


They moved 12 times in 14 years, in 5 provinces, 2 US states, and Germany on a NATO base - Jayne forced herself to overcome her shyness to make friends each time they moved - she learned she had to make her social life, nobody else could do it for her


0:07:45


Jayne went to college for social work, got married, got divorced, back to University for psychology and theatre, almost finished her degree and got a diagnosis of <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis)</a> in 1992 - onset seemed sudden at the time, but in retrospect the signs were there


0:08:30


Jayne was under a lot of stress being a single Mom with a controlling ex-spouse - there were not a lot of supports for chronically ill people - she was commuting about 70km / 50 miles, both ways and unbeknownst to Jayne, her car was spraying antifreeze and she was inhaling it - she got an opportunistic infection


0:10:20


Jayne had such severe cognitive impairment from being sick that she had a car accident - she went to her doctor and said something is seriously wrong - Jayne always had an abnormal response to exercise, but she was fit and a runner and hiker, biked, swam - but always 48 hours later severe muscle pain


0:11:30


Jayne learned about <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Post-exertional_malaise'>post exertional exacerbation of symptoms</a>, now recognized as hallmark symptom of ME, was always an experience of Jayne in response to exercise - but when she got sick she could barely walk 2 blocks


0:12:30


Her GP wanted to send her to a psychiatrist - but Jayne kept insisting it was physical and he sent her to the town's only internal medicine doctor and he was dedicated to finding out what was wrong - Jayne got a diagnosis of '<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome'>chronic fatigue syndrome</a>' from a specialist


0:14:50


But the specialist said there was nothing they could do for her - that was crushing for Jayne, she was at the start of her career, in peak physical shape, and this diagnosis hit like a ton of bricks - if she didn't have 2 small children she probably would have committed suicide


0:15:30


The internal medicine doc prescribed steroids, and they kept Jayne on her feet for 2 years - and this is the 1st of 2 medical errors impacting Jayne's life: he also prescribed <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldosterone'>aldosterone</a> / <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spironolactone'>spironolactone</a> - it acted as a diuretic and it pushed Jayne into chronic dehydration causing long term tissue damage and was not corrected until 2014
 
 
 
Crippled and Home Bound
 


0:18:00


So it was 20 years of chronic cellular dehydration and none of the many specialists she saw ever looked into it - one of the global problems with an ME diagnosis is that patients are so scared of being accused of psychosomatism they don't seek mental health support - Jayne was in great need of grief counselling - she's been carrying this grief for 25 years


0:19:30


Grief for loss of career, most of her friendships, ability to raise her children as she wanted to, loss joy of further education - she lost her entire life in about 4 months and had to keep it together for her children - Jayne thinks everyone who gets a serious diagnosis should be offered counselling support


0:21:20


Fast forward 8 years (in 2000) Jayme met her 2nd husband and moved to Calgary (where she still lives) - the drier weather and higher altitude put more stress on her dehydrated body - her house was at same elevation as Banff ski resort, so in the highest elevated city in Canada - from the day she arrived in Calgary her health deteriorated


0:23:05


Until 5 years later she was completely crippled and home bound with teenagers - Jayne was too sick to have care: sound hurt, light hurt, weight of clothing hurt, very often too sick to eat - the smell of cooking food would make her to ill to eat for 12 to 24 hours


0:25:30


But caregivers need instructions and that takes energy - writing a 2 sentence instruction for a caregiver was beyond Jayne's ability for 5 years - she could not finish a sentence verbally or in writing - Jayne attributes it to lack of blood flow and oxygen to her brain - Jayne is currently receiving oxygen from a tank to her nostrils


0:27:00


Jayne started drinking rehydration fluids instead of just water, and started to receive supplemental oxygen, her brain started to wake up, but it took about 2 years - yet none of the many doctors even mentioned dehydration


0:28:50


Jayne still doesn't know if she has mild or medium or severe ME because so many things have gone wrong - her liver and blood vessels are impaired, and genetically she can't expel toxins very well - her body is a toxic waster dump, stored in fat, and when Jayne burns fat she feels like she's being poisoned


0:31:00


Jayne is active with the online community to give back to the people who kept her alive - she sees a lot of people globally with similar symptoms - Jayne suspects that ME is a unique disease for everyone depending on their genetics and environmental exposures


0:32:30


Now in ME community, there is greater recognition of benefits of IV saline - in 2012 when Jayne started more research - Jayne had to urinate frequently, impeding her ability to rest and sleep - in watching a video of research <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Kenny_De_Meirleir'>Dr de Meirleir</a> that he treats all his ME patients with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_insipidus'>diabetes insipidus</a> protocol and an antidiuretic



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<p>Geographical Cure</p>

0:33:50


Jayne had to convince her GP to prescribe her an antidiuretic, Jayne had to jump through medical hoops for 6 months to get a paediatric dose to allow her to sleep for 8 hours - this was a huge step in addressing her chronic dehydration - the downside is it washes out sodium creating electrolyte imbalance - Jayne does not understand why she was not told that up front


0:35:30


Jayne tried the 'geographical cure': if she lives somewhere else, it will be different - so she moved to sea level on the west coast of Canada for a winter - but Jayne didn't realize the move would change how much diuretic medication she needed - her sodium levels dropped and she was nearly comatose


0:37:30


Because <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia'>hyponatremia</a> (low sodium) symptoms are almost identical to post exertional malaise - nausea, aching, brain fog, etc - nobody around her realized it was not another ME crash - but her new landlord saw her and said he had to take her to emergency and they gave her high sodium IV for next 48 hours


0:38:10


But Jayne had neurological damage for next 2 years - auditory hallucinations, visual distortions, and severe memory impairment - took a year to regain cognitive function


0:40:00


A lot of her memories are still gone, a blessing and a curse - for so many years she was filled with grief and rage, and a lot of those memories of pain, anguish, despair have faded and that is a relief


0:42:20


As she recovered, her muscles and joints moved in new ways - her brain was able to think through the stages of a problem again, a huge benefit as she know had the benefit of a thinking brain - rehydration and freedom to mover her body without pain was huge for Jayne


0:43:45


She was able to attend and dance for 3 minutes at a family wedding, when people weren't expecting her to even stand - in her research, she found that ME <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/David_Bell'>doctor David Bell</a> experimented with giving his patients a litre of saline a day and it cleared their cognitive fog and orthostatic intolerance and improved their quality of life


0:45:00


Jayne tried to get her doctor to prescribe IV saline but was declined - doctors only consider it for emergency situations and they don't realize people with ME are in emergency situations every day - but Jayne found a functional medicine doctor that would prescribe IV saline every 3 weeks in dry climate, and 4 weeks in wet climate to keep her sodium and fluids up


0:46:15


This allowed Jayne to double the number of steps she can take before collapsing from <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Postural_orthostatic_tachycardia_syndrome'>POTS</a> - process food better, less nausea, think more clearly - but the best thing is that from 2014 she's been able to write again - a passion she thought forever lost - it was a huge boost psychologically


0:47:00


Jayne still has ups and down physically - a cold will put her in bed for a month - some days have to keep light low - can't drive in traffic due to constant influx of stimuli - live a quiet and isolated life, but well within confines of her home
 
 
 
When The Flood Falls
 


0:48:00


Jayne's family struggled with her health when she got sick - a lot of responsibility fell on her oldest daughter, age 14 - she had therapy in her early 20s to deal being forced to grow up quickly and fear of only reliable parent was going to die


0:49:15


Jayne's younger son was buffered by his older sister's support, but resentful that Jayne couldn't be there for him as a teenager - and he hasn't completely accepted that Jayne is physically ill - so he carries a lot of anger


0:50:20


Jayne and her second husband thought Jayne would be more functional if she didn't have to work outside the home - but she got worse and he had to make a big adjustment and learn caregiving skills - but when her daughter graduated from university she moved back home so Jayne's husband could fulfill his life long dream to sail across the Atlantic on a tall ship - he trained for a year, was gone 7 months


0:51:30


Jayne didn't want her poor health to further limit her family, so they would hike on the weekend and take pics to show her - having a child psychology degree, access to internet, ability to analyze research and supplements were a big advantage - even so, the lack of medical support nearly killed her multiple times


0:52:30


Jayne's book, When The Flood Falls, was started in 2004 but had to stop 3 years later when too sick - she created a secondary character "Jan" who has ME - ostensibly the book is crime novel / suspense, but Jayne was also showing the stigma attached to ME


0:55:00


"Jan" is sensitive to light, sound, house bound, vulnerable to treatment fads, like stimulants - Jayne was able to accurately describe the stimulant's effect on a body that has little energy


0:56:30


In 1998, from what Jayne could glean from the internet, she hypothesized that ME was a mitochondrial impairment - now 20 years later scientists are finally doing those tests and have found energy impairment - ME patients are in a constant state of brown outs - so not surprising the array of ME symptoms


0:58:30


Sometimes it is easier to process grief by putting onto a fictional character - Jayne did a lot of grieving writing the character of "Jan" - watching every one else live their lives - it was a way to detach from the grief and make it bearable


1:00:00


Early feedback on "Jan" was she was too depressing for a commercial audience - feedback from ME community is that Jayne stayed true to the ME experience while still making it palatable to the general public - Jayne's book and character also serve as outreach / awareness of ME to suspense readers
 
 
 
Where The Ice Falls
 


1:03:00


A typical day for Jayne is about 45 minutes of each hour laying on her chaise in a dimly lit room - this gives Jayne about 15 minutes of energy to be slowly mobile to make tea, putter around - Jayne saw a new internal medicine doctor recently and told him about her level of functioning - the doc said 'that must be terrible' and Jayne said that's the best she's functioned in 15 years


1:05:30


Jayne can't sit up to write unless she had a neck and shoulder and wrist braces - so she writes on her laptop on a wheeled hospital tray - she uses a light weight and ergonomic mouse and keyboard - always has pillows to support her head - for her last 2 books her voice has gotten strong enough that she can dictate to her phone, and it sends it as text to her laptop - she then edits later when she has energy


1:07:45


It takes Jayne a long time to write because she has to rest so much in between - but if she could not write, it would be harder for her to retain hope and optimism - Jaynes' writing process is unique and counter intuitive - she was in speech therapy as a child because she didn't talk - it took her a while to trust that verbalizing her writing would work - now she's written 2.5 novels that way


1:09:30


Jayne has just submitted the 3rd manuscript for the Falls series - her first book When The Flood Falls won the <a href='https://www.crimewriterscanada.com/awards/unhanged-arthur-award'>Unhanged Arthur</a>, Canada's top prize for an unpublished mystery manuscript in 2016 - <a href='https://www.dundurn.com/'>Dundurn Press</a> offered Jayne a 3 book contract, a trilogy


1:11:30


Jayne is pleased her 3rd book, Why The Rock Falls, leaves the characters in a good place - and that readers will identify with "Jan's" improved health with their own lives - while ME is forever, it doesn't mean we have to stop living


1:13:30


At every stage of Jayne's recovery, there was a fear it would be temporary and that if one thing went wrong, the house of cards would collapse again - in 2013 her goal was to walk 50 steps and it took 3.5 months and she had to rest every 20 steps - taking a step off the sidewalk was risky - it is an act of faith that one extra step is not going to destroy her


1:16:00


Jayne's family has had to adjust to her improved health - for many years she was not strong enough to raise her voice to express her wishes - so her gains in autonomy were a big shot to them
 
 
 
Health Gains
 


1:17:30


Jayne helps promote her books by doing stuff online since she's not healthy enough to do in person book signings - her 2nd book "Where The Ice Falls" is a Christmas mystery and also deals with assisted dying - something ME patients often consider and would do if they had the energy - Jayne lived a good part of her life suicidal - but under Canadian law she would not be eligible for assisted death


1:18:30


Many people with ME would like that option because daily life with ME is unbearable - Jayne's initial reaction to finishing her trilogy was "I'm done, I don't need to push myself any more, I could die tomorrow and I'd be okay" - she's not used to not having every day be struggle - what has kept her going for 5 years was getting these book done


1:20:30


Jayne thinks she may her 15 minutes of energy each hour and write a radio play with some of her writer friends - she cannot not write, but it doesn't have to be for publication - and she wants it to be fun - 2 years ago Jayne started on low dose naltrexone helped calm her brain down - 8 months ago she started on low dose of <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyridostigmine'>mestinon</a> based on research by Dr <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/David_Systrom'>David Systrom</a> at Brigham Women's Hospital


1:22:30


He found that low dose mestinon helped get more nutrients into cells and alleviates some of the aerobic deficit - not everyone is a responder - the 2nd day she was on it, a long time friend said she looked taller - it was the first time in 27 years her neck muscles were strong enough to hold up her head without pain and collapse


1:24:00


About <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Craniocervical_instability'>cranio cervical instability</a>, Jayne is not sure if its the 'chicken or the egg' - if poor muscle tone contributed to CCI, or if they were born that way - an exciting area of research, but also risky surgery - anaesthesia for ME patients or any one with a <a href='https://www.umdf.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/PATIENT-POCKET-ER-CARD.pdf'>mitochondrial disorder needs to print out an emergency alert card</a> so paramedics don't give you something that makes you a lot worse


1:25:30


A friend of Jayne's son was brain damaged from an appendix operation because of his unknown mitochondrial disorder and the anaesthetic - so patients need to make their surgeons aware so they are safe


1:26:40


Jayne hopes that people living with ME can find something joyful, even if its only 5 minutes a day - so they get a sense of peace and progress and hope


 


Connect with Jayne Barnard:
 



 


<a href='http://www.jaynebarnard.ca/'>jaynebarnard.ca</a>


 


Twitter: https://twitter.com/J_E_Barnard


 


Facebook: @FallsMystery https://www.facebook.com/FallsMystery/


 


Instagram: saffron.hemlock https://www.instagram.com/saffron.hemlock/







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Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Podcast Host + Patient Advocate
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard, train hard, rest hard.
Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
I have been living with HIV since 1998, and thanks to research and medications, it is not a problem in my life. 
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
Need a Counsellor?
If you need a counsellor for your experience with medical error, or living with a chronic illness(es), I offer online video counseling appointments.
**For my health and life balance, I limit my number of counseling clients.** 
Email me to find out if I have any counseling appointments open:  RemediesOnlineCounseling@gmail.com

Remedies Counseling - Making Life Better
Have you had traumatic experiences with the health care system?
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Award winning detective mystery author Jayne Barnard has been permanently harmed by medical error: multiple doctors over multiple decades failed to investigate if chronic dehydration from medication was slowly killing Jayne.</p>
<p>Through her own research and tenacity - and in spite of a neglectful and ignorant health care system - Jayne has come back from years of being bed bound and non-functional and unable to communicate, to pursue her creative passion for writing. </p>
<p>Jayne is still quite disabled and needs oxygen and regular saline IVs in order to function for 15 minutes out of every hour. Recently she started a new medication and it is the 1st time in 27 years that her neck muscles were strong enough to hold up her head without pain and collapse.</p>
<p>Jayne shares how she had to orchestrate her own diagnosis and treatment, how she managed to live for years being severely sick and disabled and cared for by her family, and how she created her own incredible stranger-than-fiction narrative by producing award winning writing and snagging a 3 book publishing deal for <em>The Falls Mysteries</em> trilogy from a mostly horizontal life.</p>
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<p>Sick Baby</p>

0:05:40


Jayne's father was in the military, air force, so although born in <a href='https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=mac_bm&sxsrf=ACYBGNTPQIXNwhmticFxmUkyYuMmPyeFzQ%3A1571354746921&source=hp&ei=evioXZrANZCosgWVu4CQDQ&q=map+Cold+Lake%2C+Alberta&oq=map+Cold+Lake%2C+Alberta&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39j0l9.1820.2790..2919...0.0..0.158.580.0j4......0....1j2..gws-wiz.......0i131.H61s8sEy6Ks&ved=0ahUKEwia5YPMuKTlAhUQlKwKHZUdANIQ4dUDCAs&uact=5'>Cold Lake, Alberta</a> (Canada) and was an ill baby, spent a lot of first year in the hospital - her family was terrified she'd be dead before her first birthday - started as a kidney infection, very high fever


0:06:45


They moved 12 times in 14 years, in 5 provinces, 2 US states, and Germany on a NATO base - Jayne forced herself to overcome her shyness to make friends each time they moved - she learned she had to make her social life, nobody else could do it for her


0:07:45


Jayne went to college for social work, got married, got divorced, back to University for psychology and theatre, almost finished her degree and got a diagnosis of <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis)</a> in 1992 - onset seemed sudden at the time, but in retrospect the signs were there


0:08:30


Jayne was under a lot of stress being a single Mom with a controlling ex-spouse - there were not a lot of supports for chronically ill people - she was commuting about 70km / 50 miles, both ways and unbeknownst to Jayne, her car was spraying antifreeze and she was inhaling it - she got an opportunistic infection


0:10:20


Jayne had such severe cognitive impairment from being sick that she had a car accident - she went to her doctor and said something is seriously wrong - Jayne always had an abnormal response to exercise, but she was fit and a runner and hiker, biked, swam - but always 48 hours later severe muscle pain


0:11:30


Jayne learned about <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Post-exertional_malaise'>post exertional exacerbation of symptoms</a>, now recognized as hallmark symptom of ME, was always an experience of Jayne in response to exercise - but when she got sick she could barely walk 2 blocks


0:12:30


Her GP wanted to send her to a psychiatrist - but Jayne kept insisting it was physical and he sent her to the town's only internal medicine doctor and he was dedicated to finding out what was wrong - Jayne got a diagnosis of '<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome'>chronic fatigue syndrome</a>' from a specialist


0:14:50


But the specialist said there was nothing they could do for her - that was crushing for Jayne, she was at the start of her career, in peak physical shape, and this diagnosis hit like a ton of bricks - if she didn't have 2 small children she probably would have committed suicide


0:15:30


The internal medicine doc prescribed steroids, and they kept Jayne on her feet for 2 years - and this is the 1st of 2 medical errors impacting Jayne's life: he also prescribed <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldosterone'>aldosterone</a> / <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spironolactone'>spironolactone</a> - it acted as a diuretic and it pushed Jayne into chronic dehydration causing long term tissue damage and was not corrected until 2014
 
 
 
Crippled and Home Bound
 


0:18:00


So it was 20 years of chronic cellular dehydration and none of the many specialists she saw ever looked into it - one of the global problems with an ME diagnosis is that patients are so scared of being accused of psychosomatism they don't seek mental health support - Jayne was in great need of grief counselling - she's been carrying this grief for 25 years


0:19:30


Grief for loss of career, most of her friendships, ability to raise her children as she wanted to, loss joy of further education - she lost her entire life in about 4 months and had to keep it together for her children - Jayne thinks everyone who gets a serious diagnosis should be offered counselling support


0:21:20


Fast forward 8 years (in 2000) Jayme met her 2nd husband and moved to Calgary (where she still lives) - the drier weather and higher altitude put more stress on her dehydrated body - her house was at same elevation as Banff ski resort, so in the highest elevated city in Canada - from the day she arrived in Calgary her health deteriorated


0:23:05


Until 5 years later she was completely crippled and home bound with teenagers - Jayne was too sick to have care: sound hurt, light hurt, weight of clothing hurt, very often too sick to eat - the smell of cooking food would make her to ill to eat for 12 to 24 hours


0:25:30


But caregivers need instructions and that takes energy - writing a 2 sentence instruction for a caregiver was beyond Jayne's ability for 5 years - she could not finish a sentence verbally or in writing - Jayne attributes it to lack of blood flow and oxygen to her brain - Jayne is currently receiving oxygen from a tank to her nostrils


0:27:00


Jayne started drinking rehydration fluids instead of just water, and started to receive supplemental oxygen, her brain started to wake up, but it took about 2 years - yet none of the many doctors even mentioned dehydration


0:28:50


Jayne still doesn't know if she has mild or medium or severe ME because so many things have gone wrong - her liver and blood vessels are impaired, and genetically she can't expel toxins very well - her body is a toxic waster dump, stored in fat, and when Jayne burns fat she feels like she's being poisoned


0:31:00


Jayne is active with the online community to give back to the people who kept her alive - she sees a lot of people globally with similar symptoms - Jayne suspects that ME is a unique disease for everyone depending on their genetics and environmental exposures


0:32:30


Now in ME community, there is greater recognition of benefits of IV saline - in 2012 when Jayne started more research - Jayne had to urinate frequently, impeding her ability to rest and sleep - in watching a video of research <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Kenny_De_Meirleir'>Dr de Meirleir</a> that he treats all his ME patients with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_insipidus'>diabetes insipidus</a> protocol and an antidiuretic



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<p>Geographical Cure</p>

0:33:50


Jayne had to convince her GP to prescribe her an antidiuretic, Jayne had to jump through medical hoops for 6 months to get a paediatric dose to allow her to sleep for 8 hours - this was a huge step in addressing her chronic dehydration - the downside is it washes out sodium creating electrolyte imbalance - Jayne does not understand why she was not told that up front


0:35:30


Jayne tried the 'geographical cure': if she lives somewhere else, it will be different - so she moved to sea level on the west coast of Canada for a winter - but Jayne didn't realize the move would change how much diuretic medication she needed - her sodium levels dropped and she was nearly comatose


0:37:30


Because <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia'>hyponatremia</a> (low sodium) symptoms are almost identical to post exertional malaise - nausea, aching, brain fog, etc - nobody around her realized it was not another ME crash - but her new landlord saw her and said he had to take her to emergency and they gave her high sodium IV for next 48 hours


0:38:10


But Jayne had neurological damage for next 2 years - auditory hallucinations, visual distortions, and severe memory impairment - took a year to regain cognitive function


0:40:00


A lot of her memories are still gone, a blessing and a curse - for so many years she was filled with grief and rage, and a lot of those memories of pain, anguish, despair have faded and that is a relief


0:42:20


As she recovered, her muscles and joints moved in new ways - her brain was able to think through the stages of a problem again, a huge benefit as she know had the benefit of a thinking brain - rehydration and freedom to mover her body without pain was huge for Jayne


0:43:45


She was able to attend and dance for 3 minutes at a family wedding, when people weren't expecting her to even stand - in her research, she found that ME <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/David_Bell'>doctor David Bell</a> experimented with giving his patients a litre of saline a day and it cleared their cognitive fog and orthostatic intolerance and improved their quality of life


0:45:00


Jayne tried to get her doctor to prescribe IV saline but was declined - doctors only consider it for emergency situations and they don't realize people with ME are in emergency situations every day - but Jayne found a functional medicine doctor that would prescribe IV saline every 3 weeks in dry climate, and 4 weeks in wet climate to keep her sodium and fluids up


0:46:15


This allowed Jayne to double the number of steps she can take before collapsing from <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Postural_orthostatic_tachycardia_syndrome'>POTS</a> - process food better, less nausea, think more clearly - but the best thing is that from 2014 she's been able to write again - a passion she thought forever lost - it was a huge boost psychologically


0:47:00


Jayne still has ups and down physically - a cold will put her in bed for a month - some days have to keep light low - can't drive in traffic due to constant influx of stimuli - live a quiet and isolated life, but well within confines of her home
 
 
 
When The Flood Falls
 


0:48:00


Jayne's family struggled with her health when she got sick - a lot of responsibility fell on her oldest daughter, age 14 - she had therapy in her early 20s to deal being forced to grow up quickly and fear of only reliable parent was going to die


0:49:15


Jayne's younger son was buffered by his older sister's support, but resentful that Jayne couldn't be there for him as a teenager - and he hasn't completely accepted that Jayne is physically ill - so he carries a lot of anger


0:50:20


Jayne and her second husband thought Jayne would be more functional if she didn't have to work outside the home - but she got worse and he had to make a big adjustment and learn caregiving skills - but when her daughter graduated from university she moved back home so Jayne's husband could fulfill his life long dream to sail across the Atlantic on a tall ship - he trained for a year, was gone 7 months


0:51:30


Jayne didn't want her poor health to further limit her family, so they would hike on the weekend and take pics to show her - having a child psychology degree, access to internet, ability to analyze research and supplements were a big advantage - even so, the lack of medical support nearly killed her multiple times


0:52:30


Jayne's book, When The Flood Falls, was started in 2004 but had to stop 3 years later when too sick - she created a secondary character "Jan" who has ME - ostensibly the book is crime novel / suspense, but Jayne was also showing the stigma attached to ME


0:55:00


"Jan" is sensitive to light, sound, house bound, vulnerable to treatment fads, like stimulants - Jayne was able to accurately describe the stimulant's effect on a body that has little energy


0:56:30


In 1998, from what Jayne could glean from the internet, she hypothesized that ME was a mitochondrial impairment - now 20 years later scientists are finally doing those tests and have found energy impairment - ME patients are in a constant state of brown outs - so not surprising the array of ME symptoms


0:58:30


Sometimes it is easier to process grief by putting onto a fictional character - Jayne did a lot of grieving writing the character of "Jan" - watching every one else live their lives - it was a way to detach from the grief and make it bearable


1:00:00


Early feedback on "Jan" was she was too depressing for a commercial audience - feedback from ME community is that Jayne stayed true to the ME experience while still making it palatable to the general public - Jayne's book and character also serve as outreach / awareness of ME to suspense readers
 
 
 
Where The Ice Falls
 


1:03:00


A typical day for Jayne is about 45 minutes of each hour laying on her chaise in a dimly lit room - this gives Jayne about 15 minutes of energy to be slowly mobile to make tea, putter around - Jayne saw a new internal medicine doctor recently and told him about her level of functioning - the doc said 'that must be terrible' and Jayne said that's the best she's functioned in 15 years


1:05:30


Jayne can't sit up to write unless she had a neck and shoulder and wrist braces - so she writes on her laptop on a wheeled hospital tray - she uses a light weight and ergonomic mouse and keyboard - always has pillows to support her head - for her last 2 books her voice has gotten strong enough that she can dictate to her phone, and it sends it as text to her laptop - she then edits later when she has energy


1:07:45


It takes Jayne a long time to write because she has to rest so much in between - but if she could not write, it would be harder for her to retain hope and optimism - Jaynes' writing process is unique and counter intuitive - she was in speech therapy as a child because she didn't talk - it took her a while to trust that verbalizing her writing would work - now she's written 2.5 novels that way


1:09:30


Jayne has just submitted the 3rd manuscript for the Falls series - her first book When The Flood Falls won the <a href='https://www.crimewriterscanada.com/awards/unhanged-arthur-award'>Unhanged Arthur</a>, Canada's top prize for an unpublished mystery manuscript in 2016 - <a href='https://www.dundurn.com/'>Dundurn Press</a> offered Jayne a 3 book contract, a trilogy


1:11:30


Jayne is pleased her 3rd book, Why The Rock Falls, leaves the characters in a good place - and that readers will identify with "Jan's" improved health with their own lives - while ME is forever, it doesn't mean we have to stop living


1:13:30


At every stage of Jayne's recovery, there was a fear it would be temporary and that if one thing went wrong, the house of cards would collapse again - in 2013 her goal was to walk 50 steps and it took 3.5 months and she had to rest every 20 steps - taking a step off the sidewalk was risky - it is an act of faith that one extra step is not going to destroy her


1:16:00


Jayne's family has had to adjust to her improved health - for many years she was not strong enough to raise her voice to express her wishes - so her gains in autonomy were a big shot to them
 
 
 
Health Gains
 


1:17:30


Jayne helps promote her books by doing stuff online since she's not healthy enough to do in person book signings - her 2nd book "Where The Ice Falls" is a Christmas mystery and also deals with assisted dying - something ME patients often consider and would do if they had the energy - Jayne lived a good part of her life suicidal - but under Canadian law she would not be eligible for assisted death


1:18:30


Many people with ME would like that option because daily life with ME is unbearable - Jayne's initial reaction to finishing her trilogy was "I'm done, I don't need to push myself any more, I could die tomorrow and I'd be okay" - she's not used to not having every day be struggle - what has kept her going for 5 years was getting these book done


1:20:30


Jayne thinks she may her 15 minutes of energy each hour and write a radio play with some of her writer friends - she cannot not write, but it doesn't have to be for publication - and she wants it to be fun - 2 years ago Jayne started on low dose naltrexone helped calm her brain down - 8 months ago she started on low dose of <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyridostigmine'>mestinon</a> based on research by Dr <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/David_Systrom'>David Systrom</a> at Brigham Women's Hospital


1:22:30


He found that low dose mestinon helped get more nutrients into cells and alleviates some of the aerobic deficit - not everyone is a responder - the 2nd day she was on it, a long time friend said she looked taller - it was the first time in 27 years her neck muscles were strong enough to hold up her head without pain and collapse


1:24:00


About <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Craniocervical_instability'>cranio cervical instability</a>, Jayne is not sure if its the 'chicken or the egg' - if poor muscle tone contributed to CCI, or if they were born that way - an exciting area of research, but also risky surgery - anaesthesia for ME patients or any one with a <a href='https://www.umdf.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/PATIENT-POCKET-ER-CARD.pdf'>mitochondrial disorder needs to print out an emergency alert card</a> so paramedics don't give you something that makes you a lot worse


1:25:30


A friend of Jayne's son was brain damaged from an appendix operation because of his unknown mitochondrial disorder and the anaesthetic - so patients need to make their surgeons aware so they are safe


1:26:40


Jayne hopes that people living with ME can find something joyful, even if its only 5 minutes a day - so they get a sense of peace and progress and hope


 


Connect with Jayne Barnard:
 



 


<a href='http://www.jaynebarnard.ca/'>jaynebarnard.ca</a>


 


Twitter: https://twitter.com/J_E_Barnard


 


Facebook: @FallsMystery https://www.facebook.com/FallsMystery/


 


Instagram: saffron.hemlock https://www.instagram.com/saffron.hemlock/







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Scott Simpson: 
Counsellor + Podcast Host + Patient Advocate
I am a counsellor, patient advocate, and - before I became sick and disabled - a passionate triathlete. Work hard, train hard, rest hard.
Like me, many of my clients at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com/'>Remedies Counseling</a> have experienced the often devastating effects of medical error.
I have been living with HIV since 1998, and thanks to research and medications, it is not a problem in my life. 
I have been living with ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) since 2012, and thanks in part to medical error, it is a big problem in my life.
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Remedies Counseling - Making Life Better
Have you had traumatic experiences with the health care system?
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Award winning detective mystery author Jayne Barnard has been permanently harmed by medical error: multiple doctors over multiple decades failed to investigate if chronic dehydration from medication was slowly killing Jayne.
Through her own research and tenacity - and in spite of a neglectful and ignorant health care system - Jayne has come back from years of being bed bound and non-functional and unable to communicate, to pursue her creative passion for writing. 
Jayne is still quite disabled and needs oxygen and regular saline IVs in order to function for 15 minutes out of every hour. Recently she started a new medication and it is the 1st time in 27 years that her neck muscles were strong enough to hold up her head without pain and collapse.
Jayne shares how she had to orchestrate her own diagnosis and treatment, how she managed to live for years being severely sick and disabled and cared for by her family, and how she created her own incredible stranger-than-fiction narrative by producing award winning writing and snagging a 3 book publishing deal for The Falls Mysteries trilogy from a mostly horizontal life.
 
Sick Baby

0:05:40


Jayne's father was in the military, air force, so although born in Cold Lake, Alberta (Canada) and was an ill baby, spent a lot of first year in the hospital - her family was terrified she'd be dead before her first birthday - started as a kidney infection, very high fever


0:06:45


They moved 12 times in 14 years, in 5 provinces, 2 US states, and Germany on a NATO base - Jayne forced herself to overcome her shyness to make friends each time they moved - she learned she had to make her social life, nobody else could do it for her


0:07:45


Jayne went to college for social work, got married, got divorced, back to University for psychology and theatre, almost finished her degree and got a diagnosis of ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis) in 1992 - onset seemed sudden at the time, but in retrospect the signs were there


0:08:30


Jayne was under a lot of stress being a single Mom with a controlling ex-spouse - there were not a lot of supports for chronically ill people - she was commuting about 70km / 50 miles, both ways and unbeknownst to Jayne, her car was spraying antifreeze and she was inhaling it - she got an opportunistic infection


0:10:20


Jayne had such severe cognitive impairment from being sick that she had a car accident - she went to her doctor and said something is seriously wrong - Jayne always had an abnormal response to exercise, but she was fit and a runner and hiker, biked, swam - but always 48 hours later severe muscle pain


0:11:30


Jayne learned about post exertional exacerbation of symptoms, now recognized as hallmark symptom of ME, was always an experience of Jayne in response to exercise - but when she got sick she could barely walk 2 blocks


0:12:30


Her GP wanted to send her to a psychiatrist - but Jayne kept insisting it was physical and he sent her to the town's only internal medicine doctor and he was dedicated to finding out what was wrong - Jayne got a diagnosis of 'chronic fatigue syndrome' from a specialist


0:14:50


But the specialist said there was nothing they could do for her - that was crushing for Jayne, she was at the start of her career, in peak physical shape, and this diagnosis hit like a ton of bricks - if she didn't have 2 small children she probably would have committed suicide


0:15:30


The internal medicine doc prescribed steroids, and they kept Jayne on her feet for 2 years - and this is the 1st of 2 medical errors impacting Jayne's life: he also prescribed aldosterone / spironolactone - it acted as a diuretic and it pushed Jayne into chronic dehydration causing long term tissue damage and was not corrected until 2014
 
 
 
Crippled and Home Bound
 


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>CC* is a Registered Nurse and has a lifetime of expertise and wisdom from both sides of the health care dynamic - as a patient harmed by medical care, and as a nurse. (* “CC” is a pseudonym to protect her identity.)</p>
<p>It is CC’s experience having a permanently damaged body from multiple medical errors that have motivated her to share her story of neglectful and abusive encounters with inept and egotistical physicians so that others are aware and can take steps to protect themselves.</p>
<p>The medical error damage to CC was compounded by a health care system designed to respond to medical errors with mafioso tactics: deny and defend and denigrate.</p>
<p>Nurse CC pulls no punches in telling the tragic truth of the power dynamics, push for profit, and the wholesale of humanity by the Medical Mafia.</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>

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<p>Childhood Spinal Infection</p>

NB - some of these show notes are based on CC's preparatory notes. Those portions are CC's voice and are italicized.


0:05:00


Born in 1957 just north of Philadelphia to a white, middle class family. Grew up suburban, one of 4 children with a very tough childhood due to family dysfunction. I was extremely ill at age 6 with a spinal infection that resulted in extended hospitalization, inability to attend first grade for 1/2 the school year and confinement in a body cast and body brace for years. Despite many obstacles I was smart, had tenacity and fight that would both make me the awesome person I am today despite much suffering and societal disapproval.


0:06:05


Fought my way to be the first on either side of my family to put myself through college. I entered a collegiate nursing program in a religious institution where I hardly fit in but I had the ability, even by that point, to become a chameleon instinctually knowing how to acclimate to any environment I found myself in throughout my life. Once there, a new world opened up to me and I was on fire.


0:07:00


Began working in a hospital technical job in high school paying well and allowing me to support myself and finance my tuition, books, transportation with a small student loan. Became a RN in 1979. It was hell but I had only known hell all my life so I loved it. It felt normal. Drama, life and death, front seat row to people’s most intimate moments. However, I had empathy even at that point for any human’s suffering and this became more and more of a curse as I aged.


0:08:00


Of course I married, I was pretty, had a supervisory role within 18 months of graduation and by society’s yardstick I was doing quite well. Eventually I reluctantly had children which was interesting because I didn’t ever like children but succumbed to my husband’s wishes and that in and of itself is a miracle that I could only attribute to God. Once my first baby was born, I truly knew love for the first time in life. I wanted to be a full time Mom but this was not even a remote possibility.


0:09:30


CC chose to become a school nurse to be closer to her kids, but away from the life and death drama of ICU - CC had a 2nd child with many birth defects and she had to advocate for him - he'd be dead if she wasn't a good advocate.
 

 
Flouroquinlolones
 


0:11:30


When CC worked in ICU, <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinolone_antibiotic'>flouroquinolones</a> were not in common use - I have extremely hard scientific evidence that I was given <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levofloxacin'>Levaquin</a> in 2002 during a surgery but that memory would never occur to me till my records had been destroyed due to laws allowing health care providers to destroy after 7 years.


0:12:30


CC was an emotional wreck after that surgery, crying all the time - when she returned to work she had a mean streak - she asked her surgeon friend for an antidepressant prescription, and that helped control her behavior.


0:13:30


In 2011, CC had bronchitis so just went to an urgent care clinic and was given <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin'>Ciprofloxacin</a>. 


0:14:30


Prior to Cipro, I had been superwoman. I worked at times 3 jobs, obtained a Master’s degree and even a real estate license. So, because I was a school nurse and could be off for the summer which I never did, I remained in bed all summer. As September approached I called my internist to report this resulting in a few blood tests and being told I was just getting older. I had never been this age so I accepted this was normal.


0:16:00


CC's symptoms were extreme tiredness and weakness: she couldn't get out of bed - I drug myself to work, had been on an AD (antidepressants) since the surgery in 2002 which I knew when going back for my first post op visit I told my surgeon colleague, I’m mean. I need a SSRI, which sent me to a psychiatrist since that time. Of course all was attributed to my journey in life of mammoth stress and I happily took this which did allow me to continue at superwoman warp speed but in retrospect I had agitation and anxiety apparent but did not interfere with my ability to function.


0:18:00


CC says people in her situation are doubly traumatized when they realize they've been brain washed by the health care system she worked in - so they carry a lot of guilt as a health care worker.


0:20:00


By early 2012 I told my psychiatrist that I could barely get out of bed and he gave me a type of stimulant, not an amphetamine, called <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil'>Provigil</a> used for <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_apnea'>sleep apnea</a> and MS (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_sclerosis'>multiple sclerosis</a>) fatigue. This allowed me to get through the work day, going to bed for a few hours at a time but I was able to earn money.


0:21:15


But I became pathetically agitated and no longer could physically be Mother Theresa as everyone knew me to be. I had anxiety to such a degree that if things were going poorly at work, I’d pick up the phone, say I was sick and had to flee on a few occasions. I knew something was wrong but I never associated the word anxiety, panic attacks to my situation. I was confused because I was being abused in the educational system but just performed at superhuman levels and now was saying no. They didn’t like that and labeled me a troublemaker and suspected of having mental health problems.
 

"Lamb being lead to slaughter"
 


0:23:30


I can trace back to late 2012 seeing a foot doc because my feet hurt but was told this was a bony deformity. I attributed it to being on my feet so much as a nurse. I never put together this was progressing <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_fiber_peripheral_neuropathy'>small fiber neuropathy</a> and docs certainly would never have a clue till they totally disabled me.


0:25:00


In the spring of 2013, my left foot swelled and was painful. I had done nothing. I could never be athletic because of my childhood disease but did the treadmill daily prior for decades. I saw another foot doc, told him just what I’m telling you and he ordered an MRI. He told me the MRI showed I bruised myself so I had injured myself. I adamantly said I did not, he became angry, threw the report at me to inform me I was wrong. Well I now know they are all Incompetent. So it was June 2013 and I spent that summer in bed and the swelling subsided. 0:26:15


Fall of 2013 I returned to work and immediately my right foot swelled and became painful. I no longer could rest and figured the other got better, I would muddle through. So In October, as I walked down the hallway, I felt a snap and thought this might be a breakthrough but quickly realized things got worse. I didn’t know what to do but happened to run into an orthopeadic doc from my days in the hospital, showed him my foot and said I don’t even know what specialist I should see because I’ve seen them all. He recommended his associate, a foot and ankle surgeon. I made an appointment not knowing I was a lamb being led to slaughter. 0:29:00


November 2014, I was seen and work up done by his fellow who is already a podiatrist, now doing a fellowship in foot and ankle surgery. By now the pain In my feet was unmistakably burning of my soles. I told him everything but had no clue my demise started with Cipro, but even If I had, it would never had been recognized. He did say that my symptoms sounded like neuropathy and asked If I was diabetic which I was not. Subject dropped, never recorded on my medical records I recently discovered. Follow up MRI showed severely ruptured peroneal tendon and things were too bad for rehab. Surgery was my only option. I needed a fix. I had to work so I signed for surgery December 20, 2013 so I could finish my obligations before Christmas break to minimize my sick time. Mind you I could barely walk but I was always Superwoman and this was just how I functioned even as sick as I was.


0:31:00


I had been recruited to accompany the high school choir as a pianist because of political downsizing and building politics leaving the High School Music teacher without other options. He was the president of our union and powerful. But he paid a price just like me In his lifetime. I didn’t know him well and was actually afraid of him but he was desperate, he heard I was quite the pianist , listened to me play, and said “yep, you're good enough”. Now his standards of good enough, I found out as a did this for several years, was pretty high. He was one of the most talented musicians that I’ve ever been privileged to work with. I was again on fire as I worked with him and his Choir.
 

 
Nerve block
 


0:34:00


He protected me when people in management were abusing me and forcing me to go against my nursing license and this was a gift. On December 20, 2013, I went into surgery not knowing the life ending decision that I was embarking on. I was given a <a href='https://www.nysora.com/regional-anesthesia-for-specific-surgical-procedures/lower-extremity-regional-anesthesia-for-specific-surgical-procedures/foot-and-anckle/block-sciatic-nerve-popliteal-fossa/'>Popliteal Nerve Block</a> for pain control post op and receiving general anesthesia. I left, felling no pain, got my narcotics and went home very ok.


0:36:10


The following day the nerve block wore off and I began screaming at the top of my lungs. Nurses in pain, like anyone, do not think rationally, because in retrospect, I had been nursing for 20 years in a hospital and the only patients I’ve ever heard scream like that were in a burn unit in the 80’s when pain control was barbaric. I’ve also endured a natural birth of a 10.5 pound baby and I didn’t scream like that. By evening, I broke down and called the surgeon who assured me I was almost over the hump. Ha. 0:38:25


My best friend and husband stood there paralyzed in fear as I demanded the bottle of narcotics fearing I would take them all. I screamed give me 3 fucking <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocodone/paracetamol'>Vicodin</a>. I knew that wouldn’t kill me but even in those days you knew that prescription was not going to last. I also screamed that my husband had to remove the bandages because they were giving more pain. He faints at the sight of blood but I was a crazy woman.


0:39:15


Finally, the surgeon after insisting I might have a blood clot first and I said absolutely not. There’s no redness swelling, tenderness. Then he said have you ever had back problems. I say no then remembering I pulled my back out the previous June but it healed. So he orders an MRI of my Lumbar spine. The MRI is done and my back is a mess Im told (every part of my spine is gone and so Is my jaw). 0:40:30


Flouroquinolone destroys every part of the body on a cellular level - CC has degeneration of her spine - she endures 3 <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidural_administration'>epidurals</a> in an effort to determine the source of the pain


0:43:30


CC under goes 3 epidural invasive, harmful, toxic spinal injections - she has been out of work for months and in tremendous pain - epidural is a steroid that is injected into the spine to decrease swelling, but if you read the data, it does not work, it is a bogus money making procedure - the doctor tells CC her only-from-the-knee-down pain is from her back, her sciatica nerve


0:45:00


CC then undergoes a very painful procedure - the doctor realizes CC has bad <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_neuropathy'>neuropathy</a>, and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarsal_tunnel_syndrome'>tarsal tunnel syndrome</a> - he tells her to see a neurologist, but CC has to find one - Feb 2014 CC sees a neurologist


0:46:30


Just prior to the MRI date, I am In agony and my husband has no tolerance for my pain thinking I’m a whiner. I drive myself to an ER at 4:30 in the morning in desperation. I tell them my story, which I recently read their documentation and all I can say Is; are they on drugs, does anyone even listen to the patient anymore, total incompetence. I think they’ll do the MRI sooner and I can get answers. Wrong. Narcotics (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramadol'>Tramadol</a>-now classified by DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) as a controlled substance Class 4 opiate and Valium-a muscle relaxant). Prior it was considered a safe opiate.
 

Misdiagnosis
 


0:47:45


CC saw the neurologist: That man I’m sure is on drugs even though I knew I was. He kept leaving the exam room, I’d have to go out and find him, he does no neurological exam and states I need to see a neurosurgeon. 0:49:00


CC says hospitals cover up medical errors causing harm and death - CC tells about a nurse serial killer who was caught and put in jail - some nurses knew this was happening - <a href='https://www.amazon.ca/Good-Nurse-Medicine-Madness-Murder/dp/1455574139'>The Good Nurse by Charles Graeber</a> is a book about it - a nurse went to the DA (District Attorney) and they exhumed a body, but the hospital didn't tell the examiner what drug to look for based on meds being diverted in the hospital


0:51:10


The pathologist tested 100 drugs, but not the one the whistleblower nurse had reported - and the serial killer nurse went on - worked at 9 institutions - they think he probably killed 300 to 400 people 


0:52:00


CC is not glad she is alive, she wished the drug had of killed her - but she loves her kids and is plugging along - I See the neurosurgeon who emphatically shows me the MRI pointing out there in NO compression on those nerves. That pain Is not coming from your spine. I get a second opinion somewhere else and he says the same. He says you have to see a neurologist and I said I did, he sent me to you. He sets up an appointment the following day in that office.


0:53:15


Unfortunately I saw a nurse practitioner but it really wouldn’t have mattered. I ask her sobbing do you think I have MS. She so compassionately comes over and holds my hand and emphatically states there is no way you have MS. Wrong. Nurses are taught never to do such a thing but she felt so confident In her skills that she violated a sacred nursing ethic. But I feel relieved as I sat in the waiting room surrounded by patients horrendously deformed by neurodegenerative diseases. She put me on <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabapentin'>Gabapentin</a> and orders another <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromyography'>EMG</a> of my arms , follow up in three months with a bonafide neurologist. 0:55:30


I return to my surgeon, he sees the horrendous EMG which although abnormal, unfactual and just documentation to support another surgery which was unneeded. I’ve now been out of work for over 3 months, in desperation. He sees the EMG report says I have Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome and offers to operate on that and maybe later do the other foot. I need to work, I think this might be the answer so I agree. I’m so stupid. Desperate people do desperate things. 0:57:00


I refuse the popliteal block because my gut tells me that this is not good. I come through that surgery and while convalescing decide I’ve got to see that neurologist before July. I see him in April. He’s not only incompetent, he’s a liar I now know. He raises his eyebrows that I had the TTS and says I do not recommend the other foot. I told him what the surgeon said and he just doesn’t comment. Conspiracy of Silence.
 

 
 "I asked him what he found and he refused to tell me."
 


0:59:00


He orders the vitamin levels I demanded reluctantly even though this Is research based. He says he wants to repeat the EMG on my legs. I tell him I have the appt for the arms June He says good do arms and legs. Wrong.


1:00:00


I show up at the hospital June 5th for the EMG with his partner. He looks at the order and starts ranting that he’s not going to do 4 limbs in one day and he’s got a splitting headache and has had a horrendous day. I offer to reschedule and he rants No. I now have been scouring the internet trying to find help because I’m even weaker. He then begins a two hour session of electrical shocks as he mutters only to himself as my friend holds my hand trying to help me through the pain. But, I finally hear him say ok, this is starting to make sense. I know he found something. When we are done I ask him what he found and he refuses to tell me. I beg him to see me because he’s the only Board Certified Neuromuscular Neurologist in the area. He says no. 1:01:30


I furiously start calling for the results. The neurologist doesn’t call me back. Finally I call and tell the nurse he better call me because if Im dying, I need to know to make arrangements. Takes days to even connect but I have now discovered there are Peripheral Neuropathy Centers of Excellence and the closest is several states away. I get an appt in less than 2 weeks. The local 2nd neurologist finally calls me back and tells me the EMG didn’t show much in those exact words. I say I’m so weak I can barely get out of bed and he offers me physical therapy. I refuse and politely tell him that I need answers so I’m leaving the state. He becomes angry putting up barriers to getting my records which ultimately I don’t need. Good people don’t care what others wrote. But because I’m a nurse, and know the ropes, I do obtain the EMG report which report which is 8 pages long single spaced starting with the statement this is a highly abnormal and complex EMG. Idiocy. Lies.


1:04:45


I go to the out of state famous guy and to my unknown luck, I show up on a day Obama was In town- I’m the only one there. All the extensive testing is done that day only needing a specialized MRI machine that is not available most places . Skin punch biopsy, 17 tubes of blood, 4 limb EMG done In less than 30 minutes. No begging for any test and more I would never have known. But he does say, because he was the first person that actually listened to me, find out the precise location on your body where they injected you for that block. 1:06:00


Two weeks after seeing the famous neurologist I return for the results but now I’m one of the herd of patients there. He tells me you have small fiber neuropathy probably from Cipro since that’s when it started but of course was placed on other neurotoxic drugs as every body organ began to disintegrate. I also have B6 toxicity which is neurotoxic (seen by the local neurologist several months earlier but never told). He goes on to explain that I had very sick nerves that could not sustain the further injury of a neurotoxic nerve block and they should have never given that to you. He adds and if you think I’m going to court for you I’m not. He states there Is nothing he can do for me. I sob and ask how I will support myself and his response was I could go on disability. He tells me he’s busy and no longer has time for me. I plead that I’m so weak I can barely get out of bed and he scolds me saying you’re not that weak. He ushers me out hysterical.
 
 
 
Another misdiagnsois
 


1:07:30


I return home. Still feeling like I’m dying and I really wish I had. On Saturday night, I’m desperate to see anyone who will help me. My long term internist had left the practice before the tendon rupture but I work with her husband. I email him and beg for his wife to call me and she does. I ask her the name of her Internist as I’ve seen multiple ones with no help and she tells me. 1:08:30


I see that internist shortly and am too weak to even sit upright to speak. She, upon entering, demands I sit up to speak. I cry and tell her I’m too weak. She does listen o my story and has a fuller history to more accurately understand. After my story her response is let’s do a brain MRI because they’ve MRId everything but that. I get that done and she calls me the next night telling me it looks like I have MS. I need to see that kind of Neurologist. I tell her I will not see anyone local. She sets me up with the nearest big city prestigious university head of MS.


1:10:00


That guy was not only Incompetent, he abuses human beings. He demands further invasive testing which was done there and my civil rights were violated and I was treated like an animal. 2 weeks later he tells me there is no doubt I have MS and wants me on toxic drugs immediately. I’m scared but too abused to accept this so I travel 9 hours to a nationally renowned hospital, lying in the back seat of our compact car writhing in pain. He does listen to my story. His verdict is that’s a weird story, but I have seen weird stories. But, I would not take those meds, continue to monitor your brain MRIs and if you get more damage, then take them. Good enough for me.


1:11:45


I have to return to the first MS guy and he’s angry but does not refuse to continue seeing me which many do. I have a few years of monitoring with no further damage revealed but cannot take his verbal abuse. I tell him how he’s hurting people with the things he says, he’s outraged, tries to pawn it off on me and I stand my ground and say I had someone beside me who heard everything you said. I point out the repeated things he said to me, he starts to grovel and says he never intended to hurt me. I respond, I know you didn’t so that’s the point of this conversation. You're clueless about your verbal abuse. I never go back because of that and other things.
1:13:00


In 2016 I read a medical journal article that is titled 40 red flags this is not MS. The first red flag is small fibre neuropathy. I email the lead author from a Colorado. He emails me back within 5 minutes. I tell him why I think I’ve been misdiagnosed. He says go see his coauthor whose closer. I do. The verdict there was I do not meet the complex criteria that Is universally accepted to diagnose MS. <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_criteria'>The McDonald Criteria</a>. But I should be monitored. A recent medical publication cites 1:5 are misdiagnosed as MS some being on toxic drugs for decades. There is no real test for MS. So why didn’t the head of MS at a city prestigious university not understand the McDonald criteria? Because his big ego and status made he think he knew best. Scary.
 

 
Black Box Warnings
 


1:14:00


CC says recent research shows 1 in 5 MS patients have been misdiagnosed, and they may have been on toxic medication for decades


1:16:00


Black Box warnings on medication come from reports of harm from patients, it is not doctors submitting reports of adverse reactions - there is 1 doctor who is an adverse drug reaction researcher and he is a good man - he is the reason many of the Black Box warnings are at the FDA - CC contacted him and told about her symptoms


1:17:30


Small Fibre Neuropathy (SFN) - basically damage to the nerve - there is also Large Fibre Neuropathy, diabetics get - in MS patients, they experience neuropathy because the damage in their brain manifests the pain, not the peripheral nerve


1:18:45


The pain after her surgery was so bad CC would not have survived without an opioid - she had been prescribed Tramadol, but it was not labeled as an opioid, but it is an opioid and more dangerous than others


1:20:00


1.5 years later I’m (was) still on Tramadol for self preservation and having been told by a Johns Hopkins peripheral nerve neurosurgeon that after 9 months that nerve was not going to heal. My only options were meds or a spinal stimulator implantation. Now I’m near total psychosis. I’m obsessed with death In that I cant stop reading about It. I get pleasure from this. I sob 24/7. I can’t leave the house because I’m a public spectacle. I never ever took more than was directed. One day I take it, start to sob more and realize this poison is making me worse. I abruptly stop them. I go into withdrawal and writhe in pain everywhere for weeks. But when it’s over, my horrendous anesthetic nerve injury pain is gone. My brain was recreating the pain to get the Opioids. Tramadol was labeled in August 2014 by the DEA a a controlled substance, so providers didn’t think it was addicting even though it was an Opioid. Now we know about the corruption between the FDA and Big Pharma and the Opioid Crisis is the tip of the iceberg. My psyche Improved but I will never be normal.


1:22:30


The last years have been spent looking for The Holy Grail, trying alternative medicine and therapies but I now know my life is over. I will never work again, my personality is different as is my perception of people. One by one you r abandoned by friends, coworkers, family, religious entities and finally God. I live in unbelievable pain 24/7 that cannot be relieved unless I risk further brain injury. I’m too weak to leave the house and spend much time in bed. Very little left. I see that my situation Is the result of global profit driven societies from the rich down to the poor. 1:23:30


CC goes for stem cell therapy in Mexico as did others poisoned by flouroquinolones - and CC did respond well, but every body else got worse - CC's quality of life improved enough she could connect with others globally for mutual support - they all have multi system damage - CC was treated better by Mexican health care workers than any American.
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC* is a Registered Nurse and has a lifetime of expertise and wisdom from both sides of the health care dynamic - as a patient harmed by medical care, and as a nurse. (* <em>“CC” is a pseudonym to protect her identity</em>.)</p>
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<p>The medical error damage to CC was compounded by a health care system designed to respond to medical errors with mafioso tactics: deny and defend and denigrate.</p>
<p>Nurse CC pulls no punches in telling the tragic truth of the power dynamics, push for profit, and the wholesale of humanity by the Medical Mafia.</p>
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<p>Childhood Spinal Infection</p>

NB - some of these show notes are based on CC's preparatory notes. Those portions are CC's voice and are italicized.


0:05:00


Born in 1957 just north of Philadelphia to a white, middle class family. Grew up suburban, one of 4 children with a very tough childhood due to family dysfunction. I was extremely ill at age 6 with a spinal infection that resulted in extended hospitalization, inability to attend first grade for 1/2 the school year and confinement in a body cast and body brace for years. Despite many obstacles I was smart, had tenacity and fight that would both make me the awesome person I am today despite much suffering and societal disapproval.


0:06:05


Fought my way to be the first on either side of my family to put myself through college. I entered a collegiate nursing program in a religious institution where I hardly fit in but I had the ability, even by that point, to become a chameleon instinctually knowing how to acclimate to any environment I found myself in throughout my life. Once there, a new world opened up to me and I was on fire.


0:07:00


Began working in a hospital technical job in high school paying well and allowing me to support myself and finance my tuition, books, transportation with a small student loan. Became a RN in 1979. It was hell but I had only known hell all my life so I loved it. It felt normal. Drama, life and death, front seat row to people’s most intimate moments. However, I had empathy even at that point for any human’s suffering and this became more and more of a curse as I aged.


0:08:00


Of course I married, I was pretty, had a supervisory role within 18 months of graduation and by society’s yardstick I was doing quite well. Eventually I reluctantly had children which was interesting because I didn’t ever like children but succumbed to my husband’s wishes and that in and of itself is a miracle that I could only attribute to God. Once my first baby was born, I truly knew love for the first time in life. I wanted to be a full time Mom but this was not even a remote possibility.


0:09:30


CC chose to become a school nurse to be closer to her kids, but away from the life and death drama of ICU - CC had a 2nd child with many birth defects and she had to advocate for him - he'd be dead if she wasn't a good advocate.
 

 
Flouroquinlolones
 


0:11:30


When CC worked in ICU, <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinolone_antibiotic'>flouroquinolones</a> were not in common use - I have extremely hard scientific evidence that I was given <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levofloxacin'>Levaquin</a> in 2002 during a surgery but that memory would never occur to me till my records had been destroyed due to laws allowing health care providers to destroy after 7 years.


0:12:30


CC was an emotional wreck after that surgery, crying all the time - when she returned to work she had a mean streak - she asked her surgeon friend for an antidepressant prescription, and that helped control her behavior.


0:13:30


In 2011, CC had bronchitis so just went to an urgent care clinic and was given <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin'>Ciprofloxacin</a>. 


0:14:30


Prior to Cipro, I had been superwoman. I worked at times 3 jobs, obtained a Master’s degree and even a real estate license. So, because I was a school nurse and could be off for the summer which I never did, I remained in bed all summer. As September approached I called my internist to report this resulting in a few blood tests and being told I was just getting older. I had never been this age so I accepted this was normal.


0:16:00


CC's symptoms were extreme tiredness and weakness: she couldn't get out of bed - I drug myself to work, had been on an AD (antidepressants) since the surgery in 2002 which I knew when going back for my first post op visit I told my surgeon colleague, I’m mean. I need a SSRI, which sent me to a psychiatrist since that time. Of course all was attributed to my journey in life of mammoth stress and I happily took this which did allow me to continue at superwoman warp speed but in retrospect I had agitation and anxiety apparent but did not interfere with my ability to function.


0:18:00


CC says people in her situation are doubly traumatized when they realize they've been brain washed by the health care system she worked in - so they carry a lot of guilt as a health care worker.


0:20:00


By early 2012 I told my psychiatrist that I could barely get out of bed and he gave me a type of stimulant, not an amphetamine, called <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil'>Provigil</a> used for <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_apnea'>sleep apnea</a> and MS (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_sclerosis'>multiple sclerosis</a>) fatigue. This allowed me to get through the work day, going to bed for a few hours at a time but I was able to earn money.


0:21:15


But I became pathetically agitated and no longer could physically be Mother Theresa as everyone knew me to be. I had anxiety to such a degree that if things were going poorly at work, I’d pick up the phone, say I was sick and had to flee on a few occasions. I knew something was wrong but I never associated the word anxiety, panic attacks to my situation. I was confused because I was being abused in the educational system but just performed at superhuman levels and now was saying no. They didn’t like that and labeled me a troublemaker and suspected of having mental health problems.
 

"Lamb being lead to slaughter"
 


0:23:30


I can trace back to late 2012 seeing a foot doc because my feet hurt but was told this was a bony deformity. I attributed it to being on my feet so much as a nurse. I never put together this was progressing <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_fiber_peripheral_neuropathy'>small fiber neuropathy</a> and docs certainly would never have a clue till they totally disabled me.


0:25:00


In the spring of 2013, my left foot swelled and was painful. I had done nothing. I could never be athletic because of my childhood disease but did the treadmill daily prior for decades. I saw another foot doc, told him just what I’m telling you and he ordered an MRI. He told me the MRI showed I bruised myself so I had injured myself. I adamantly said I did not, he became angry, threw the report at me to inform me I was wrong. Well I now know they are all Incompetent. So it was June 2013 and I spent that summer in bed and the swelling subsided. 0:26:15


Fall of 2013 I returned to work and immediately my right foot swelled and became painful. I no longer could rest and figured the other got better, I would muddle through. So In October, as I walked down the hallway, I felt a snap and thought this might be a breakthrough but quickly realized things got worse. I didn’t know what to do but happened to run into an orthopeadic doc from my days in the hospital, showed him my foot and said I don’t even know what specialist I should see because I’ve seen them all. He recommended his associate, a foot and ankle surgeon. I made an appointment not knowing I was a lamb being led to slaughter. 0:29:00


November 2014, I was seen and work up done by his fellow who is already a podiatrist, now doing a fellowship in foot and ankle surgery. By now the pain In my feet was unmistakably burning of my soles. I told him everything but had no clue my demise started with Cipro, but even If I had, it would never had been recognized. He did say that my symptoms sounded like neuropathy and asked If I was diabetic which I was not. Subject dropped, never recorded on my medical records I recently discovered. Follow up MRI showed severely ruptured peroneal tendon and things were too bad for rehab. Surgery was my only option. I needed a fix. I had to work so I signed for surgery December 20, 2013 so I could finish my obligations before Christmas break to minimize my sick time. Mind you I could barely walk but I was always Superwoman and this was just how I functioned even as sick as I was.


0:31:00


I had been recruited to accompany the high school choir as a pianist because of political downsizing and building politics leaving the High School Music teacher without other options. He was the president of our union and powerful. But he paid a price just like me In his lifetime. I didn’t know him well and was actually afraid of him but he was desperate, he heard I was quite the pianist , listened to me play, and said “yep, you're good enough”. Now his standards of good enough, I found out as a did this for several years, was pretty high. He was one of the most talented musicians that I’ve ever been privileged to work with. I was again on fire as I worked with him and his Choir.
 

 
Nerve block
 


0:34:00


He protected me when people in management were abusing me and forcing me to go against my nursing license and this was a gift. On December 20, 2013, I went into surgery not knowing the life ending decision that I was embarking on. I was given a <a href='https://www.nysora.com/regional-anesthesia-for-specific-surgical-procedures/lower-extremity-regional-anesthesia-for-specific-surgical-procedures/foot-and-anckle/block-sciatic-nerve-popliteal-fossa/'>Popliteal Nerve Block</a> for pain control post op and receiving general anesthesia. I left, felling no pain, got my narcotics and went home very ok.


0:36:10


The following day the nerve block wore off and I began screaming at the top of my lungs. Nurses in pain, like anyone, do not think rationally, because in retrospect, I had been nursing for 20 years in a hospital and the only patients I’ve ever heard scream like that were in a burn unit in the 80’s when pain control was barbaric. I’ve also endured a natural birth of a 10.5 pound baby and I didn’t scream like that. By evening, I broke down and called the surgeon who assured me I was almost over the hump. Ha. 0:38:25


My best friend and husband stood there paralyzed in fear as I demanded the bottle of narcotics fearing I would take them all. I screamed give me 3 fucking <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocodone/paracetamol'>Vicodin</a>. I knew that wouldn’t kill me but even in those days you knew that prescription was not going to last. I also screamed that my husband had to remove the bandages because they were giving more pain. He faints at the sight of blood but I was a crazy woman.


0:39:15


Finally, the surgeon after insisting I might have a blood clot first and I said absolutely not. There’s no redness swelling, tenderness. Then he said have you ever had back problems. I say no then remembering I pulled my back out the previous June but it healed. So he orders an MRI of my Lumbar spine. The MRI is done and my back is a mess Im told (every part of my spine is gone and so Is my jaw). 0:40:30


Flouroquinolone destroys every part of the body on a cellular level - CC has degeneration of her spine - she endures 3 <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidural_administration'>epidurals</a> in an effort to determine the source of the pain


0:43:30


CC under goes 3 epidural invasive, harmful, toxic spinal injections - she has been out of work for months and in tremendous pain - epidural is a steroid that is injected into the spine to decrease swelling, but if you read the data, it does not work, it is a bogus money making procedure - the doctor tells CC her only-from-the-knee-down pain is from her back, her sciatica nerve


0:45:00


CC then undergoes a very painful procedure - the doctor realizes CC has bad <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_neuropathy'>neuropathy</a>, and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarsal_tunnel_syndrome'>tarsal tunnel syndrome</a> - he tells her to see a neurologist, but CC has to find one - Feb 2014 CC sees a neurologist


0:46:30


Just prior to the MRI date, I am In agony and my husband has no tolerance for my pain thinking I’m a whiner. I drive myself to an ER at 4:30 in the morning in desperation. I tell them my story, which I recently read their documentation and all I can say Is; are they on drugs, does anyone even listen to the patient anymore, total incompetence. I think they’ll do the MRI sooner and I can get answers. Wrong. Narcotics (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramadol'>Tramadol</a>-now classified by DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) as a controlled substance Class 4 opiate and Valium-a muscle relaxant). Prior it was considered a safe opiate.
 

Misdiagnosis
 


0:47:45


CC saw the neurologist: That man I’m sure is on drugs even though I knew I was. He kept leaving the exam room, I’d have to go out and find him, he does no neurological exam and states I need to see a neurosurgeon. 0:49:00


CC says hospitals cover up medical errors causing harm and death - CC tells about a nurse serial killer who was caught and put in jail - some nurses knew this was happening - <a href='https://www.amazon.ca/Good-Nurse-Medicine-Madness-Murder/dp/1455574139'>The Good Nurse by Charles Graeber</a> is a book about it - a nurse went to the DA (District Attorney) and they exhumed a body, but the hospital didn't tell the examiner what drug to look for based on meds being diverted in the hospital


0:51:10


The pathologist tested 100 drugs, but not the one the whistleblower nurse had reported - and the serial killer nurse went on - worked at 9 institutions - they think he probably killed 300 to 400 people 


0:52:00


CC is not glad she is alive, she wished the drug had of killed her - but she loves her kids and is plugging along - I See the neurosurgeon who emphatically shows me the MRI pointing out there in NO compression on those nerves. That pain Is not coming from your spine. I get a second opinion somewhere else and he says the same. He says you have to see a neurologist and I said I did, he sent me to you. He sets up an appointment the following day in that office.


0:53:15


Unfortunately I saw a nurse practitioner but it really wouldn’t have mattered. I ask her sobbing do you think I have MS. She so compassionately comes over and holds my hand and emphatically states there is no way you have MS. Wrong. Nurses are taught never to do such a thing but she felt so confident In her skills that she violated a sacred nursing ethic. But I feel relieved as I sat in the waiting room surrounded by patients horrendously deformed by neurodegenerative diseases. She put me on <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabapentin'>Gabapentin</a> and orders another <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromyography'>EMG</a> of my arms , follow up in three months with a bonafide neurologist. 0:55:30


I return to my surgeon, he sees the horrendous EMG which although abnormal, unfactual and just documentation to support another surgery which was unneeded. I’ve now been out of work for over 3 months, in desperation. He sees the EMG report says I have Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome and offers to operate on that and maybe later do the other foot. I need to work, I think this might be the answer so I agree. I’m so stupid. Desperate people do desperate things. 0:57:00


I refuse the popliteal block because my gut tells me that this is not good. I come through that surgery and while convalescing decide I’ve got to see that neurologist before July. I see him in April. He’s not only incompetent, he’s a liar I now know. He raises his eyebrows that I had the TTS and says I do not recommend the other foot. I told him what the surgeon said and he just doesn’t comment. Conspiracy of Silence.
 

 
 "I asked him what he found and he refused to tell me."
 


0:59:00


He orders the vitamin levels I demanded reluctantly even though this Is research based. He says he wants to repeat the EMG on my legs. I tell him I have the appt for the arms June He says good do arms and legs. Wrong.


1:00:00


I show up at the hospital June 5th for the EMG with his partner. He looks at the order and starts ranting that he’s not going to do 4 limbs in one day and he’s got a splitting headache and has had a horrendous day. I offer to reschedule and he rants No. I now have been scouring the internet trying to find help because I’m even weaker. He then begins a two hour session of electrical shocks as he mutters only to himself as my friend holds my hand trying to help me through the pain. But, I finally hear him say ok, this is starting to make sense. I know he found something. When we are done I ask him what he found and he refuses to tell me. I beg him to see me because he’s the only Board Certified Neuromuscular Neurologist in the area. He says no. 1:01:30


I furiously start calling for the results. The neurologist doesn’t call me back. Finally I call and tell the nurse he better call me because if Im dying, I need to know to make arrangements. Takes days to even connect but I have now discovered there are Peripheral Neuropathy Centers of Excellence and the closest is several states away. I get an appt in less than 2 weeks. The local 2nd neurologist finally calls me back and tells me the EMG didn’t show much in those exact words. I say I’m so weak I can barely get out of bed and he offers me physical therapy. I refuse and politely tell him that I need answers so I’m leaving the state. He becomes angry putting up barriers to getting my records which ultimately I don’t need. Good people don’t care what others wrote. But because I’m a nurse, and know the ropes, I do obtain the EMG report which report which is 8 pages long single spaced starting with the statement this is a highly abnormal and complex EMG. Idiocy. Lies.


1:04:45


I go to the out of state famous guy and to my unknown luck, I show up on a day Obama was In town- I’m the only one there. All the extensive testing is done that day only needing a specialized MRI machine that is not available most places . Skin punch biopsy, 17 tubes of blood, 4 limb EMG done In less than 30 minutes. No begging for any test and more I would never have known. But he does say, because he was the first person that actually listened to me, find out the precise location on your body where they injected you for that block. 1:06:00


Two weeks after seeing the famous neurologist I return for the results but now I’m one of the herd of patients there. He tells me you have small fiber neuropathy probably from Cipro since that’s when it started but of course was placed on other neurotoxic drugs as every body organ began to disintegrate. I also have B6 toxicity which is neurotoxic (seen by the local neurologist several months earlier but never told). He goes on to explain that I had very sick nerves that could not sustain the further injury of a neurotoxic nerve block and they should have never given that to you. He adds and if you think I’m going to court for you I’m not. He states there Is nothing he can do for me. I sob and ask how I will support myself and his response was I could go on disability. He tells me he’s busy and no longer has time for me. I plead that I’m so weak I can barely get out of bed and he scolds me saying you’re not that weak. He ushers me out hysterical.
 
 
 
Another misdiagnsois
 


1:07:30


I return home. Still feeling like I’m dying and I really wish I had. On Saturday night, I’m desperate to see anyone who will help me. My long term internist had left the practice before the tendon rupture but I work with her husband. I email him and beg for his wife to call me and she does. I ask her the name of her Internist as I’ve seen multiple ones with no help and she tells me. 1:08:30


I see that internist shortly and am too weak to even sit upright to speak. She, upon entering, demands I sit up to speak. I cry and tell her I’m too weak. She does listen o my story and has a fuller history to more accurately understand. After my story her response is let’s do a brain MRI because they’ve MRId everything but that. I get that done and she calls me the next night telling me it looks like I have MS. I need to see that kind of Neurologist. I tell her I will not see anyone local. She sets me up with the nearest big city prestigious university head of MS.


1:10:00


That guy was not only Incompetent, he abuses human beings. He demands further invasive testing which was done there and my civil rights were violated and I was treated like an animal. 2 weeks later he tells me there is no doubt I have MS and wants me on toxic drugs immediately. I’m scared but too abused to accept this so I travel 9 hours to a nationally renowned hospital, lying in the back seat of our compact car writhing in pain. He does listen to my story. His verdict is that’s a weird story, but I have seen weird stories. But, I would not take those meds, continue to monitor your brain MRIs and if you get more damage, then take them. Good enough for me.


1:11:45


I have to return to the first MS guy and he’s angry but does not refuse to continue seeing me which many do. I have a few years of monitoring with no further damage revealed but cannot take his verbal abuse. I tell him how he’s hurting people with the things he says, he’s outraged, tries to pawn it off on me and I stand my ground and say I had someone beside me who heard everything you said. I point out the repeated things he said to me, he starts to grovel and says he never intended to hurt me. I respond, I know you didn’t so that’s the point of this conversation. You're clueless about your verbal abuse. I never go back because of that and other things.
1:13:00


In 2016 I read a medical journal article that is titled 40 red flags this is not MS. The first red flag is small fibre neuropathy. I email the lead author from a Colorado. He emails me back within 5 minutes. I tell him why I think I’ve been misdiagnosed. He says go see his coauthor whose closer. I do. The verdict there was I do not meet the complex criteria that Is universally accepted to diagnose MS. <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_criteria'>The McDonald Criteria</a>. But I should be monitored. A recent medical publication cites 1:5 are misdiagnosed as MS some being on toxic drugs for decades. There is no real test for MS. So why didn’t the head of MS at a city prestigious university not understand the McDonald criteria? Because his big ego and status made he think he knew best. Scary.
 

 
Black Box Warnings
 


1:14:00


CC says recent research shows 1 in 5 MS patients have been misdiagnosed, and they may have been on toxic medication for decades


1:16:00


Black Box warnings on medication come from reports of harm from patients, it is not doctors submitting reports of adverse reactions - there is 1 doctor who is an adverse drug reaction researcher and he is a good man - he is the reason many of the Black Box warnings are at the FDA - CC contacted him and told about her symptoms


1:17:30


Small Fibre Neuropathy (SFN) - basically damage to the nerve - there is also Large Fibre Neuropathy, diabetics get - in MS patients, they experience neuropathy because the damage in their brain manifests the pain, not the peripheral nerve


1:18:45


The pain after her surgery was so bad CC would not have survived without an opioid - she had been prescribed Tramadol, but it was not labeled as an opioid, but it is an opioid and more dangerous than others


1:20:00


1.5 years later I’m (was) still on Tramadol for self preservation and having been told by a Johns Hopkins peripheral nerve neurosurgeon that after 9 months that nerve was not going to heal. My only options were meds or a spinal stimulator implantation. Now I’m near total psychosis. I’m obsessed with death In that I cant stop reading about It. I get pleasure from this. I sob 24/7. I can’t leave the house because I’m a public spectacle. I never ever took more than was directed. One day I take it, start to sob more and realize this poison is making me worse. I abruptly stop them. I go into withdrawal and writhe in pain everywhere for weeks. But when it’s over, my horrendous anesthetic nerve injury pain is gone. My brain was recreating the pain to get the Opioids. Tramadol was labeled in August 2014 by the DEA a a controlled substance, so providers didn’t think it was addicting even though it was an Opioid. Now we know about the corruption between the FDA and Big Pharma and the Opioid Crisis is the tip of the iceberg. My psyche Improved but I will never be normal.


1:22:30


The last years have been spent looking for The Holy Grail, trying alternative medicine and therapies but I now know my life is over. I will never work again, my personality is different as is my perception of people. One by one you r abandoned by friends, coworkers, family, religious entities and finally God. I live in unbelievable pain 24/7 that cannot be relieved unless I risk further brain injury. I’m too weak to leave the house and spend much time in bed. Very little left. I see that my situation Is the result of global profit driven societies from the rich down to the poor. 1:23:30


CC goes for stem cell therapy in Mexico as did others poisoned by flouroquinolones - and CC did respond well, but every body else got worse - CC's quality of life improved enough she could connect with others globally for mutual support - they all have multi system damage - CC was treated better by Mexican health care workers than any American.
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Nurse CC pulls no punches in telling the tragic truth of the power dynamics, push for profit, and the wholesale of humanity by the Medical Mafia.
 
SHOW NOTES

Childhood Spinal Infection

NB - some of these show notes are based on CC's preparatory notes. Those portions are CC's voice and are italicized.


0:05:00


Born in 1957 just north of Philadelphia to a white, middle class family. Grew up suburban, one of 4 children with a very tough childhood due to family dysfunction. I was extremely ill at age 6 with a spinal infection that resulted in extended hospitalization, inability to attend first grade for 1/2 the school year and confinement in a body cast and body brace for years. Despite many obstacles I was smart, had tenacity and fight that would both make me the awesome person I am today despite much suffering and societal disapproval.


0:06:05


Fought my way to be the first on either side of my family to put myself through college. I entered a collegiate nursing program in a religious institution where I hardly fit in but I had the ability, even by that point, to become a chameleon instinctually knowing how to acclimate to any environment I found myself in throughout my life. Once there, a new world opened up to me and I was on fire.


0:07:00


Began working in a hospital technical job in high school paying well and allowing me to support myself and finance my tuition, books, transportation with a small student loan. Became a RN in 1979. It was hell but I had only known hell all my life so I loved it. It felt normal. Drama, life and death, front seat row to people’s most intimate moments. However, I had empathy even at that point for any human’s suffering and this became more and more of a curse as I aged.


0:08:00


Of course I married, I was pretty, had a supervisory role within 18 months of graduation and by society’s yardstick I was doing quite well. Eventually I reluctantly had children which was interesting because I didn’t ever like children but succumbed to my husband’s wishes and that in and of itself is a miracle that I could only attribute to God. Once my first baby was born, I truly knew love for the first time in life. I wanted to be a full time Mom but this was not even a remote possibility.


0:09:30


CC chose to become a school nurse to be closer to her kids, but away from the life and death drama of ICU - CC had a 2nd child with many birth defects and she had to advocate for him - he'd be dead if she wasn't a good advocate.
 

 
Flouroquinlolones
 


0:11:30


When CC worked in ICU, flouroquinolones were not in common use - I have extremely hard scientific evidence that I was given Levaquin in 2002 during a surgery but that memory would never occur to me till my records had been destroyed due to laws allowing health care providers to destroy after 7 years.


0:12:30


CC was an emotional wreck after that surgery, crying all the time - when she returned to work she had a mean streak - she asked her surgeon friend for an antidepressant prescription, and that helped control her behavior.


0:13:30


In 2011, CC had bronchitis so just went to an urgent care clinic and was given Ciprofloxacin. 


0:14:30


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>From early childhood, Deann Merchant longed to share her voice and music. But as you will hear Deann explain, it was a way to escape the neglect and abuse. Neglect that left her mostly toothless by age 16.</p>
<p>As an adult, her musical passion would only be defeated by her lack of a toothy smile. She hid from the world.</p>
<p>But Deann was determined to pursue her passion and she re-mortgaged her house to finance the implant of dentures that would physically allow her to sing, and emotionally free her to perform in public.</p>
<p>Deann was fulfilling her life long dream and sharing her voice and music. She was the happiest she’d ever been.</p>
<p>But then her dentures started to fail, and the nightmare of losing her ability to sing, and confidence to appear in public, vanished.</p>
<p>That loss was compounded by 2 things: metal poisoning as the dental restoration leaked toxic elements into her body, and a dental industry without oversight or accountability.</p>
<p>Deann shares how she’s evolved to be an advocate for people harmed by the dental industry.</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Born Musician</p>

0:05:10


Deann grew up in Massachusetts but her childhood was not stellar, she is an abuse and neglect survivor, this is important to her story because the abuse and neglect caused her to lose her teeth at 16 - she had a challenging and dysfunctional family


0:06:10


At 3 years old, Deann is on a bar room floor eating coke and chips - at 6 years old she was viciously abused for an undiagnosed physical ailment - at 9 years she watched her mother throwing a knife across a room - at 11 years Deann got tuberculosis because her father was dying in the house - and at 16 years old she lost her teeth


0:06:55


But underneath all that, Deann knew she had a voice and something to offer - music and singing - and that allowed her to survive - her family did not seek medical treatment or dental treatment


0:07:40


At 15 Deann got an abscess and the school finally stepped in and said Deann needs major dental work and it has to be addressed - but it was too late and too expensive to save them, so that had to be removed, except for bottom six


0:08:10


But because it was done to Deann before she had finished growing, it caused her upper jaw to atrophy immediately - over the years Deann became 'indentalist' / toothless because of the atrophy


0:09:10


This caused Deann to feel insecure - Deann has no doubt that had she been born into a loving and accepting family, she would have been on stage singing - but Deann's mother didn't want boys, girls were nothing to her, Deann was insignificant and a burden - this is set Deann up for adulthood in a really bad way


0:10:10


It made Deann hide with embarrassment and pain that she would be judged and couldn't do her craft of singing - all singers need teeth, saliva and all functioning - as Deann looks back, it looks like her mother knew singing and music was Deann passion and made it her sole purpose that Deann would never achieve that


0:11:40


Deann ended up with an upper denture and her 6 lower teeth - over the years because Deann couldn't use her molars to chew, she had to use her front and that caused her upper jaw to wear down, so that an upper denture couldn't be affixed
 
 
 
 
Going After Her Dreams
 


0:12:40


Because her upper denture was not properly modeled, it caused a lot of wear and tear on her gums over 27 years


0:13:40


Deann got married as a teenager, a mistake as she had no social and life skills to make a good decision - she grew up only hearing how stupid she was, how ugly, don't smile, don't talk, keep your head down, use your back because you don't have any brains - so when someone paid her positive attention, she was attracted to him


0:15:10


Her marriage lasted 10 years, but he was physically abusive, broke her dentures, black eyes, etc - but she had 3 boys and didn't want them to see or live in that same situation she grew up in - Deann had to escape the home to escape a death by her husband


0:17:10


Deann then met a man who changed her life - she credits him with supporting her to be the person she is today - he believed in her, encouraged her, positive reinforcement and encouraged her to pursue her passion for music, so they look into dental restoration in 2001 / 02


0:18:40


A dentist tried to take bone from her chin to use to reconstruct her upper jaw - but he was not prepared for such a severe case and it failed - Deann found another surgeon who said bone must be harvested from her hip so they could get enough for her jaw to support dental restoration


0:19:40


3 days in the hospital and Deann got 6 implants on the top and 3 implants on the bottom and everything went great, no problem - but then she goes to a prostodontist (specializes in bones of the face)


0:21:00


The prostotontist makes an overdenture (attachs to the implants) but Deann struggles to get it on and when she does it immediately feels like a vise grip causing pain - and it has remained that way for the last 14 years, causing constant pain


0:22:40


But at that time, Deann considered the dentures to be her second chance at life, at singing, the thing she'd been waiting her entire life and to have a functioning smile - so she ignored the pain and the prostodontist said there was no problem


0:23:30


9 years after the dental restoration, Deann realized her dentures were 'over loaded' causing biomechanical complications leading to implant failure
 
 
 
 
 


0:25:30


Deann has documented this on her website - she was experiencing a rash on her face, experiencing a metallic taste, throat burning and throbbing - she told the prostodontist that it felt like a vise grip on her face, but he said that her dentures fit - Deann fully trusted and bought into what he was saying - but she was still losing bone and tissue at an alarming rate and he did not pick up on that


0:26:40


Deann recognized a pattern among dentists is they always turn a problem around and blame the patient - one good thing about Deann's story is that she has proof


0:27:30


For the procedure, they make a model of the patients' mouth - and while the dentures fit the model perfectly, they had to be forced onto Deann's mouth - that should have been a red flag to the prostodontist but he ignored it - properly fitting dentures should feel like nothing


0:29:10


The prostodontist played on Deann's insecurity, blaming her - 2 things happened: a mis-installment, and the lab owner substituted material with chromium cobalt, poisoning Deann


0:30:40


Year after year, Deann complained about the dental restoration and they would make small adjustment to appease her - they kept telling her there was nothing wrong and that it must be her, and she believed them - but year after year she's getting sicker with fatigue, rashes, problems with her tattoos 28 years after she got them, digestive issues making her feel poisoned after she eats.


0:31:50


Deann hasn't been to a restaurant in 10 years, she can only eat once a day and needs to smoke marijuana to stimulate her appetitite and soften other symptoms - if she didn't take marijuana before she ate, she would start slurring her words, have trouble understanding others - the less she eats, the better she feels


0:32:50


Deann's research she finds a German researcher who says that swallowing the poisons from her dentures for many years causes digestive problems - only recently has the public become aware of the effects of cobalt, aluminum in the body


0:34:10


Nobody knows about metal poisoning, the US medical system doesn't have a lot of info about it and Deann couldn't find help - in November 2014 Deann had given up and was going to kill herself - she was a burden, she couldn't sing, she didn't know why she was sick - Deann also has MS (Multiple Sclerosis), diagnosed on her bladder and bowel issues and lesions in her brain


 

 

 

 
Cobalt Poisoning


 
0:35:20


Deann says important to know she was a heavy diet coke drinker and the nutrasweet can cause brain lesions - they prostodonist would use Deann's MS diagnosis as the cause of her symptoms, but the neurologist said her symptoms of metallic taste, rash, her hands would swell and get red if she touched metal


0:35:40


Deann then sees an allergist in Rhode Island and after examining Deann he said he's never seen a case like hers and didn't know if he could help her - Deann broke down crying, saying to him that he was her last hope and she can't continue - the allergist said that if this all started after dental work, has any one tested you for metals?


0:37:20


Testing showed cobalt - glowing like a nuclear reactor - in Deann's system - she then went to Dr Shalock in New York (who was working with the directors of the documentary, The Bleeding Edge) - Deann finds out she's also allergic to gold and tin - Deann goes to the lab that made her dentures with her allergy results


0:38:45


The lab gives Deann a copy of the chemical certificate for part of her denture - during this time she fired the prostodontist for working against her and poor work as he had messed Deann up so much she had trouble eating and speaking - this went on for 10 months


0:40:10


Deann started working directly with the lab owner fixed her lisp - Deann's musical career was taking off, but her dental work was preventing her from singing, from fulfilling her life's dream


0:41:10


The lab then used a 'system' and polyurethane to try to hold the denture in place - he told Deann he believed in the 'system' - but he lied, he'd sold the machine that made her prosthetic denture


0:42:10


Deann had audio taped some of her appointments, so she has evidence of what he said - she arranged a meeting with the lab owner - Deann brought her friend a nurse to the meeting - the lab owner accuses Deann of trying to hurt his reputation - Deann replied that he had watched her suffer and her health decline for 9 years, and that he only cared about himself


0:43:40


The lab owner said, 'good luck trying to convince the public, nobody is going to believe you' - in the following 4 years Deann lost her friends, her family turned on her and she has nobody to correct her mouth - he didn't just screw up her mouth, he screwed up her entire life


0:45:40


Deann couldn't find any help - not even her AG (Attorney General) - Deann filed a complaint with the Dental Board, supplying video and audio and witness statements, but she never got a reply - the lab owner refused to give Deann her file, told her to tell her attorney to request it
 

 
Re-mortgaging Her House
 


0:47:00


Deann makes a phone appointment with Harvard Dental School - Deann told the Harvard specialist that she was in a bind - Deann had re-mortgaged her house to pay for the $68,000 dental restoration but she's smileless, has to eat baby food, she's sick and struggles to eat and cognitively function - the only reason she is lucid for our interview is because she took medication


0:49:25


Deann's situation was completely avoidable: if the lab had not substituted metal in making the denture, and if the prostodontist had of listened to Deann about the denture not fitting and causing pain, we wouldn't be having this conversation - what really irks Deann is there is no oversight, they can do anything they want


0:50:10


Unless you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, you'll lose in court - and they will sue you - Deann can still be sued, and Deann cannot afford to be sued - she has audio and video evidence to prove her case beyond a shadow of a doubt, and she can't tell her story - she lives in fear and doing this podcast is a risk for her - she'd love to name names, but it would open her to attack


0:52:10


Dentist can jump into specialties without any real training - whatever will give them the most financial gain - originally only surgeons put in dentures, now dentists can take a course - they don't have to tell patients about their training - they love people who are uneducated


0:54:10


One of the 42 attorney's Deann contacted to take her case advised her to record her dental appointments - it is legal and admissable in court in Rhode Island - Deann has audio evidence of admission of knowledge of metals and improper fit - she has audio of admission that the way they decide what metals to use in dentures depends what is cheapest on the market that day


0:55:20


While the prostodontist advertised using all titanium and not precious metals because they are a nightmare - Deann is living that nightmare - Deann has a 5 year old granddaughter who wants to be a performer like her grandmother, but Deann can't visit with her because she's too sick


0:56:40


Deann asks: Is if fair they re-mortaged their home in good faith, while they're enjoying the fruits of their deceitful behavior - Deann hopes that if listeners get nothing else from her story, that they should be their own advocate - Deann went from working out 6 days a week, rode motorcycles, hiking, and now she can't get off the couch


0:58:10


Deann whole system is being poisoned - lungs, stomach, mucus and they think cobalt goes into her organs - her immune system is overwhelmed and she can't fight any viruses and susceptible to everything going around - doctors think her glands in her throat have been poisoned - she has chronically dry mouth
 
 
 
Dental Deception
 


1:01:10


She has to keep her conversations short - and has to hold the phone away from her ear - Deann tells patients to make sure to eliminate and rule out other diagnosis


1:02:40


Re Harvard, she was told to call the prostodontist secretary to make an appointment - Deann calls and emails but receives no response - so Deann ends arranging treatment in Costa Rica


1:05:10


Then she gets an email saying they can't do the procedure, try other dentists in Costa Rica - Deann asks for an explanation - they say how dare she record professionals and put it on the internet - Deann later found out that dentist worked for an American company


1:07:10


When she was first diagnosed with metal poisoning, it was hard for Deann to accept that ADA (American Dental Association) approved device would cause harm - know she understands they are just labels that don't mean anything because there is no oversight


1:08:40


How many labs are doing this to people like Deann, going to specialists to try to find out why they're sick - she got called a hypochondriac - Deann fell through the health care cracks as a child and its happening again


1:11:10


This is more than Deann's smile - she worries if she'll get cancer - and she'll have to pay out of pocket again to get her mouth fixed, to correct the damage they made - a bitter pill to swallow


1:12:10


Deann has become an advocate - she hates injustice - she started just telling her story on her website, but was finding others with dental errors - Deann found Tina Gomes, already a dental advocate and about transparency when dentists err, as the public has a right to know - 10 years later she's still fighting for that


1:13:10


Deann found a video of a dentist who was doing to surprise his client with a new smile - no permission, no informed consent - the client cried with joy - Deann thought the dentist was incredible, what he was doing for people...but something didn't feel right, so she investigated and found he was reprimanded by the dental board for selling prescription drugs


1:14:40


Deann then found a video of him being interviewed about his dental business, but Deann could see the host, a dentist, was uncomfortable with the answers he was getting - they were hyperbolic


1:16:10


The research in the last few years all say there needs to be more study of long term effects - so dental professionals who claim their dentures will last a lifetime - that is not true - Galvanism has been taught in dental school since the '50s
 

 
Galvanism
 


1:17:10


They're taught not to mix metals in the mouth, creating Galvanism - any 2 dissimilar metals in a liquid medium, like saliva, is creating current - you are a walking battery - this is what happened to Deann


1:18:10


Public told these devices are safe - the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) has received 2.1 million complaints about failed dental restoration - last 10 years peri implantitis has become a major problem - has something to do with substandard metals put in people's mouths - no long term studies


1:19:10


Deann knows a woman who went to a periodontist who said he does dental restoration - Deann told her to ask for the chemical certificate, he says he doesn't have it - Deann advises her to leave, stop giving him money - in an email he said he'd remove one tooth, and no implants


1:20:10


He gives her medication before the procedure that makes her loopy - the periodontist asks her husband to sign the release - she left the procedure still with the tooth that was to be pulled, and with 2 implants - she has a pace maker and is allergic to aluminum - so she has no idea what's in her mouth


1:21:25


Deann advised her to call an attorney, but she was too afraid - Deann's website is <a href='http://www.welcometodds.com/'>WelcomeToDDS.com</a> - Dee's Dental Story - she also has a group for people to share their stories and information - she also has <a href='https://www.facebook.com/deesdentaldisaster/'>Dee's Dental Disaster</a> page on Facebook - and keeps them updated


1:22:40


But people are afraid to complain because they can be attacked - Deann is willing to stand up and point her finger, but she can't - she shouldn't have to suffer and lose her best friend, her voice, that helped her get through the other bad times by singing or humming to herself - and to loose that, she might as well be dead


1:23:55


Deann's music can be found on SoundCloud under Deann Merchant - also on Reverb Nation - from folk to rock to blues - from Whitney Houston to Janis Joplin - Deann only had 7 years behind the mic, but it was the best 7 years of her life


1:25:10


She created her own music, raised funds for a rescue charity - she has 2 entries on <a href='http://www.dustmybroom.nl/'>DustMyBroom.nl</a> - the validation by her musical peers that she had something to offer means a lot to Deann


1:26:40


Deann will continue with her advocating, but it is hard for her to keep up with the stories from patients - so she educates so people don't end up like Deann - we're brainwashed to believe only people in white coats know what's going on - others like Tina Gomes, Susan Chenesey and other advocates trying to change things, bring awareness, do the research
 

 
Becoming An Advocate
 


1:28:10


Deann's basic premise is to remember Galvanism, that what is placed in your mouth affects your whole body - comparing with organ donation, you need a donor with the same blood type, tissue type, even then require meds to stop organ rejection - but dental industry puts all these alloy together that will increase their profits - no blood levels, no medication, no long term study


1:29:40


Then pain, memory, vision problems - Dr Towers on The Bleeding Edge said that if it didn't happen to him personally, he would never have beleived it - dentists take info from device manufacturer as gospel and put it in your body - what goes in your mouth affects the whole body


1:30:40


Doesn't matter where in the body, hip, knee, toxic materials are released - Deann got involved in the Esure contraceptive controversy - because some of them were having dental problems, rashes on their body


1:31:40


Deann doesn't think metal can be put in a human body and not expect a reaction - no better advocate for a patient then yourself - but the dental professionals say the patient is the problem - so do your due diligence


1:32:55


Deann reads from a government website: "From 1995 these facts have been available but ignored. Overload, rather than component design, is the primary factor in the majority of prosthetic and implant failures. Safegaurding the long term integrity of the restoration, should be a shared responsibility between the patient and the health care team. As orthodentology increases at an exponential rate, it is extremely important to keep abreast of the latest advancements.


1:33:55


Deann advises to make sure they explain dental restoration start to finish - had Deann known and understood what a 'passive system' meant in 2005 she would have made them fix it - but she didn't have informed consent


1:34:30


Understanding Galvanism and how important it is before you go to a dental office so you don't end up like Deann - her website motto is "learn from my mistake - don't become one"


1:35:40


Deann encourages people to visit her website The Empowered Patient - take advantage of the info that is there - take advantage learn about metals and anatomy - and listen to your instinct - don't take dentist words as gospel
 

 
Connect with Deann Merchant
 


Dental Website: Http://www.WelcometoDDS.com


 


Pages of interest:


The Empowered Patient - educational page for patients


Share Your Story - The Patients Page - houses patient stories/comments


Kindred Journeys - Creative outlet on personal harm (If you use a computer, music will play automatically. I wrote that about our countries despair and had someone else do the vocals, she also added her own lyrics.


Angels of Awareness - Children who succumb to a dental procedure


 


Facebook Awareness Group & awareness page:


https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheFlossingofAmericasDentalPatients/


https://www.facebook.com/deesdentaldisaster/

 
Musical Achievements:
 


My first professional gig a year after stepping up to follow my passion was in 2009. Every project that followed gave me more confidence and nothing seemed out of my reach. https://www.youtube.com/user/natsway/videos?view_as=subscriber


 


Originals & obscure covers Http://www.Soundcloud.com/deann-merchant


Leaving a digital footprint for my granddaughter Natalie https://drooble.com/deanne.merchant/music


 


One of the first songs I penned was about rescue animals. A rather 'dark' toned song I was able to use it to raise just over $1000. for the rescue. https://www.amazon.com/Shelter-Helping-Animals-Song-Time/dp/B009NWL0JQ


We also did online gigs to raise money, this is one on the Gigee platform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25JmlOOmFjU


 


This website houses the most complete collection of renditions of Robert Johnson's infamous blues song 'Dust My Broom'. I have 2 renditions, 1 solo slide, and 1 band performance on this page http://www.dustmybroom.nl/2009.html. Actor Steven Seagal is also on that site. Main page: http://www.dustmybroom.nl/ 


There's also a great article written by Jas Obrecht for anyone interested in the story of the infamous song. 
 
Performing
 


The following link is the song I spoke of that was written by famous bluesman, Willie Dickson and sung by Howl'n Wolf. His granddaughter, Tomiko Dixon, had me do her version as a demo. It was my first crack at doing my own thing and transforming into my alter ego, Mama Dee.  https://www.reverbnation.com/deannmerchant/song/18609081-piece-of-the-pie The other song I couldn't remember the name of was 'Hallelujuah' that's also on reverb. 


 


I became a part of the SESAC family 2013 as songwriter. They are one of three of the major Performing Rights Organizations (PROs) that houses my small repetoire of original music.


This link is one of the two WIB's (Women In Blues) promotional video's I was lucky enough to have a sample of my music featured on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfKBz8ddC0k


 


I was also a blues DJ for a few years with an award-winning station http://kconlineradio.com/ and my show was called The Juke Joint (still on fb I believe). They still have me listed in the 'About' section surprisingly, lol. And, I still run my Halloween special on social media every Halloween just for good measure, lol. 


 


My partner & I Al Dzeizic won the 1st round in the 2015 Ct. Blues competition for a chance to play at the International Blues Competition in Nashville, TN. Just so happens, that venture got us a spot on 'GrandMa's Attic' on Ct. local TV. 


Proudest moment ever? Being in the same lineup as John Cafferty & The Beaver Brown band!! 


 


And one better? His sax player ended up becoming a personal friend. And standing in front of a captive audience performing my originals (even with a pic line in my strumming arm, lol)? OMG, PRICELESS!! 


 


That little girl who dreamed the impossible dream and against the odds, made it happen!! I was able to come full circle despite my mother's best efforts to break me. <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1A-AZATnVw'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1A-AZATnVw</a>
 

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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From early childhood, Deann Merchant longed to share her voice and music. But as you will hear Deann explain, it was a way to escape the neglect and abuse. Neglect that left her mostly toothless by age 16.</p>
<p>As an adult, her musical passion would only be defeated by her lack of a toothy smile. She hid from the world.</p>
<p>But Deann was determined to pursue her passion and she re-mortgaged her house to finance the implant of dentures that would physically allow her to sing, and emotionally free her to perform in public.</p>
<p>Deann was fulfilling her life long dream and sharing her voice and music. She was the happiest she’d ever been.</p>
<p>But then her dentures started to fail, and the nightmare of losing her ability to sing, and confidence to appear in public, vanished.</p>
<p>That loss was compounded by 2 things: metal poisoning as the dental restoration leaked toxic elements into her body, and a dental industry without oversight or accountability.</p>
<p>Deann shares how she’s evolved to be an advocate for people harmed by the dental industry.</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Born Musician</p>

0:05:10


Deann grew up in Massachusetts but her childhood was not stellar, she is an abuse and neglect survivor, this is important to her story because the abuse and neglect caused her to lose her teeth at 16 - she had a challenging and dysfunctional family


0:06:10


At 3 years old, Deann is on a bar room floor eating coke and chips - at 6 years old she was viciously abused for an undiagnosed physical ailment - at 9 years she watched her mother throwing a knife across a room - at 11 years Deann got tuberculosis because her father was dying in the house - and at 16 years old she lost her teeth


0:06:55


But underneath all that, Deann knew she had a voice and something to offer - music and singing - and that allowed her to survive - her family did not seek medical treatment or dental treatment


0:07:40


At 15 Deann got an abscess and the school finally stepped in and said Deann needs major dental work and it has to be addressed - but it was too late and too expensive to save them, so that had to be removed, except for bottom six


0:08:10


But because it was done to Deann before she had finished growing, it caused her upper jaw to atrophy immediately - over the years Deann became 'indentalist' / toothless because of the atrophy


0:09:10


This caused Deann to feel insecure - Deann has no doubt that had she been born into a loving and accepting family, she would have been on stage singing - but Deann's mother didn't want boys, girls were nothing to her, Deann was insignificant and a burden - this is set Deann up for adulthood in a really bad way


0:10:10


It made Deann hide with embarrassment and pain that she would be judged and couldn't do her craft of singing - all singers need teeth, saliva and all functioning - as Deann looks back, it looks like her mother knew singing and music was Deann passion and made it her sole purpose that Deann would never achieve that


0:11:40


Deann ended up with an upper denture and her 6 lower teeth - over the years because Deann couldn't use her molars to chew, she had to use her front and that caused her upper jaw to wear down, so that an upper denture couldn't be affixed
 
 
 
 
Going After Her Dreams
 


0:12:40


Because her upper denture was not properly modeled, it caused a lot of wear and tear on her gums over 27 years


0:13:40


Deann got married as a teenager, a mistake as she had no social and life skills to make a good decision - she grew up only hearing how stupid she was, how ugly, don't smile, don't talk, keep your head down, use your back because you don't have any brains - so when someone paid her positive attention, she was attracted to him


0:15:10


Her marriage lasted 10 years, but he was physically abusive, broke her dentures, black eyes, etc - but she had 3 boys and didn't want them to see or live in that same situation she grew up in - Deann had to escape the home to escape a death by her husband


0:17:10


Deann then met a man who changed her life - she credits him with supporting her to be the person she is today - he believed in her, encouraged her, positive reinforcement and encouraged her to pursue her passion for music, so they look into dental restoration in 2001 / 02


0:18:40


A dentist tried to take bone from her chin to use to reconstruct her upper jaw - but he was not prepared for such a severe case and it failed - Deann found another surgeon who said bone must be harvested from her hip so they could get enough for her jaw to support dental restoration


0:19:40


3 days in the hospital and Deann got 6 implants on the top and 3 implants on the bottom and everything went great, no problem - but then she goes to a prostodontist (specializes in bones of the face)


0:21:00


The prostotontist makes an overdenture (attachs to the implants) but Deann struggles to get it on and when she does it immediately feels like a vise grip causing pain - and it has remained that way for the last 14 years, causing constant pain


0:22:40


But at that time, Deann considered the dentures to be her second chance at life, at singing, the thing she'd been waiting her entire life and to have a functioning smile - so she ignored the pain and the prostodontist said there was no problem


0:23:30


9 years after the dental restoration, Deann realized her dentures were 'over loaded' causing biomechanical complications leading to implant failure
 
 
 
 
 


0:25:30


Deann has documented this on her website - she was experiencing a rash on her face, experiencing a metallic taste, throat burning and throbbing - she told the prostodontist that it felt like a vise grip on her face, but he said that her dentures fit - Deann fully trusted and bought into what he was saying - but she was still losing bone and tissue at an alarming rate and he did not pick up on that


0:26:40


Deann recognized a pattern among dentists is they always turn a problem around and blame the patient - one good thing about Deann's story is that she has proof


0:27:30


For the procedure, they make a model of the patients' mouth - and while the dentures fit the model perfectly, they had to be forced onto Deann's mouth - that should have been a red flag to the prostodontist but he ignored it - properly fitting dentures should feel like nothing


0:29:10


The prostodontist played on Deann's insecurity, blaming her - 2 things happened: a mis-installment, and the lab owner substituted material with chromium cobalt, poisoning Deann


0:30:40


Year after year, Deann complained about the dental restoration and they would make small adjustment to appease her - they kept telling her there was nothing wrong and that it must be her, and she believed them - but year after year she's getting sicker with fatigue, rashes, problems with her tattoos 28 years after she got them, digestive issues making her feel poisoned after she eats.


0:31:50


Deann hasn't been to a restaurant in 10 years, she can only eat once a day and needs to smoke marijuana to stimulate her appetitite and soften other symptoms - if she didn't take marijuana before she ate, she would start slurring her words, have trouble understanding others - the less she eats, the better she feels


0:32:50


Deann's research she finds a German researcher who says that swallowing the poisons from her dentures for many years causes digestive problems - only recently has the public become aware of the effects of cobalt, aluminum in the body


0:34:10


Nobody knows about metal poisoning, the US medical system doesn't have a lot of info about it and Deann couldn't find help - in November 2014 Deann had given up and was going to kill herself - she was a burden, she couldn't sing, she didn't know why she was sick - Deann also has MS (Multiple Sclerosis), diagnosed on her bladder and bowel issues and lesions in her brain


 

 

 

 
Cobalt Poisoning


 
0:35:20


Deann says important to know she was a heavy diet coke drinker and the nutrasweet can cause brain lesions - they prostodonist would use Deann's MS diagnosis as the cause of her symptoms, but the neurologist said her symptoms of metallic taste, rash, her hands would swell and get red if she touched metal


0:35:40


Deann then sees an allergist in Rhode Island and after examining Deann he said he's never seen a case like hers and didn't know if he could help her - Deann broke down crying, saying to him that he was her last hope and she can't continue - the allergist said that if this all started after dental work, has any one tested you for metals?


0:37:20


Testing showed cobalt - glowing like a nuclear reactor - in Deann's system - she then went to Dr Shalock in New York (who was working with the directors of the documentary, The Bleeding Edge) - Deann finds out she's also allergic to gold and tin - Deann goes to the lab that made her dentures with her allergy results


0:38:45


The lab gives Deann a copy of the chemical certificate for part of her denture - during this time she fired the prostodontist for working against her and poor work as he had messed Deann up so much she had trouble eating and speaking - this went on for 10 months


0:40:10


Deann started working directly with the lab owner fixed her lisp - Deann's musical career was taking off, but her dental work was preventing her from singing, from fulfilling her life's dream


0:41:10


The lab then used a 'system' and polyurethane to try to hold the denture in place - he told Deann he believed in the 'system' - but he lied, he'd sold the machine that made her prosthetic denture


0:42:10


Deann had audio taped some of her appointments, so she has evidence of what he said - she arranged a meeting with the lab owner - Deann brought her friend a nurse to the meeting - the lab owner accuses Deann of trying to hurt his reputation - Deann replied that he had watched her suffer and her health decline for 9 years, and that he only cared about himself


0:43:40


The lab owner said, 'good luck trying to convince the public, nobody is going to believe you' - in the following 4 years Deann lost her friends, her family turned on her and she has nobody to correct her mouth - he didn't just screw up her mouth, he screwed up her entire life


0:45:40


Deann couldn't find any help - not even her AG (Attorney General) - Deann filed a complaint with the Dental Board, supplying video and audio and witness statements, but she never got a reply - the lab owner refused to give Deann her file, told her to tell her attorney to request it
 

 
Re-mortgaging Her House
 


0:47:00


Deann makes a phone appointment with Harvard Dental School - Deann told the Harvard specialist that she was in a bind - Deann had re-mortgaged her house to pay for the $68,000 dental restoration but she's smileless, has to eat baby food, she's sick and struggles to eat and cognitively function - the only reason she is lucid for our interview is because she took medication


0:49:25


Deann's situation was completely avoidable: if the lab had not substituted metal in making the denture, and if the prostodontist had of listened to Deann about the denture not fitting and causing pain, we wouldn't be having this conversation - what really irks Deann is there is no oversight, they can do anything they want


0:50:10


Unless you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, you'll lose in court - and they will sue you - Deann can still be sued, and Deann cannot afford to be sued - she has audio and video evidence to prove her case beyond a shadow of a doubt, and she can't tell her story - she lives in fear and doing this podcast is a risk for her - she'd love to name names, but it would open her to attack


0:52:10


Dentist can jump into specialties without any real training - whatever will give them the most financial gain - originally only surgeons put in dentures, now dentists can take a course - they don't have to tell patients about their training - they love people who are uneducated


0:54:10


One of the 42 attorney's Deann contacted to take her case advised her to record her dental appointments - it is legal and admissable in court in Rhode Island - Deann has audio evidence of admission of knowledge of metals and improper fit - she has audio of admission that the way they decide what metals to use in dentures depends what is cheapest on the market that day


0:55:20


While the prostodontist advertised using all titanium and not precious metals because they are a nightmare - Deann is living that nightmare - Deann has a 5 year old granddaughter who wants to be a performer like her grandmother, but Deann can't visit with her because she's too sick


0:56:40


Deann asks: Is if fair they re-mortaged their home in good faith, while they're enjoying the fruits of their deceitful behavior - Deann hopes that if listeners get nothing else from her story, that they should be their own advocate - Deann went from working out 6 days a week, rode motorcycles, hiking, and now she can't get off the couch


0:58:10


Deann whole system is being poisoned - lungs, stomach, mucus and they think cobalt goes into her organs - her immune system is overwhelmed and she can't fight any viruses and susceptible to everything going around - doctors think her glands in her throat have been poisoned - she has chronically dry mouth
 
 
 
Dental Deception
 


1:01:10


She has to keep her conversations short - and has to hold the phone away from her ear - Deann tells patients to make sure to eliminate and rule out other diagnosis


1:02:40


Re Harvard, she was told to call the prostodontist secretary to make an appointment - Deann calls and emails but receives no response - so Deann ends arranging treatment in Costa Rica


1:05:10


Then she gets an email saying they can't do the procedure, try other dentists in Costa Rica - Deann asks for an explanation - they say how dare she record professionals and put it on the internet - Deann later found out that dentist worked for an American company


1:07:10


When she was first diagnosed with metal poisoning, it was hard for Deann to accept that ADA (American Dental Association) approved device would cause harm - know she understands they are just labels that don't mean anything because there is no oversight


1:08:40


How many labs are doing this to people like Deann, going to specialists to try to find out why they're sick - she got called a hypochondriac - Deann fell through the health care cracks as a child and its happening again


1:11:10


This is more than Deann's smile - she worries if she'll get cancer - and she'll have to pay out of pocket again to get her mouth fixed, to correct the damage they made - a bitter pill to swallow


1:12:10


Deann has become an advocate - she hates injustice - she started just telling her story on her website, but was finding others with dental errors - Deann found Tina Gomes, already a dental advocate and about transparency when dentists err, as the public has a right to know - 10 years later she's still fighting for that


1:13:10


Deann found a video of a dentist who was doing to surprise his client with a new smile - no permission, no informed consent - the client cried with joy - Deann thought the dentist was incredible, what he was doing for people...but something didn't feel right, so she investigated and found he was reprimanded by the dental board for selling prescription drugs


1:14:40


Deann then found a video of him being interviewed about his dental business, but Deann could see the host, a dentist, was uncomfortable with the answers he was getting - they were hyperbolic


1:16:10


The research in the last few years all say there needs to be more study of long term effects - so dental professionals who claim their dentures will last a lifetime - that is not true - Galvanism has been taught in dental school since the '50s
 

 
Galvanism
 


1:17:10


They're taught not to mix metals in the mouth, creating Galvanism - any 2 dissimilar metals in a liquid medium, like saliva, is creating current - you are a walking battery - this is what happened to Deann


1:18:10


Public told these devices are safe - the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) has received 2.1 million complaints about failed dental restoration - last 10 years peri implantitis has become a major problem - has something to do with substandard metals put in people's mouths - no long term studies


1:19:10


Deann knows a woman who went to a periodontist who said he does dental restoration - Deann told her to ask for the chemical certificate, he says he doesn't have it - Deann advises her to leave, stop giving him money - in an email he said he'd remove one tooth, and no implants


1:20:10


He gives her medication before the procedure that makes her loopy - the periodontist asks her husband to sign the release - she left the procedure still with the tooth that was to be pulled, and with 2 implants - she has a pace maker and is allergic to aluminum - so she has no idea what's in her mouth


1:21:25


Deann advised her to call an attorney, but she was too afraid - Deann's website is <a href='http://www.welcometodds.com/'>WelcomeToDDS.com</a> - Dee's Dental Story - she also has a group for people to share their stories and information - she also has <a href='https://www.facebook.com/deesdentaldisaster/'>Dee's Dental Disaster</a> page on Facebook - and keeps them updated


1:22:40


But people are afraid to complain because they can be attacked - Deann is willing to stand up and point her finger, but she can't - she shouldn't have to suffer and lose her best friend, her voice, that helped her get through the other bad times by singing or humming to herself - and to loose that, she might as well be dead


1:23:55


Deann's music can be found on SoundCloud under Deann Merchant - also on Reverb Nation - from folk to rock to blues - from Whitney Houston to Janis Joplin - Deann only had 7 years behind the mic, but it was the best 7 years of her life


1:25:10


She created her own music, raised funds for a rescue charity - she has 2 entries on <a href='http://www.dustmybroom.nl/'>DustMyBroom.nl</a> - the validation by her musical peers that she had something to offer means a lot to Deann


1:26:40


Deann will continue with her advocating, but it is hard for her to keep up with the stories from patients - so she educates so people don't end up like Deann - we're brainwashed to believe only people in white coats know what's going on - others like Tina Gomes, Susan Chenesey and other advocates trying to change things, bring awareness, do the research
 

 
Becoming An Advocate
 


1:28:10


Deann's basic premise is to remember Galvanism, that what is placed in your mouth affects your whole body - comparing with organ donation, you need a donor with the same blood type, tissue type, even then require meds to stop organ rejection - but dental industry puts all these alloy together that will increase their profits - no blood levels, no medication, no long term study


1:29:40


Then pain, memory, vision problems - Dr Towers on The Bleeding Edge said that if it didn't happen to him personally, he would never have beleived it - dentists take info from device manufacturer as gospel and put it in your body - what goes in your mouth affects the whole body


1:30:40


Doesn't matter where in the body, hip, knee, toxic materials are released - Deann got involved in the Esure contraceptive controversy - because some of them were having dental problems, rashes on their body


1:31:40


Deann doesn't think metal can be put in a human body and not expect a reaction - no better advocate for a patient then yourself - but the dental professionals say the patient is the problem - so do your due diligence


1:32:55


Deann reads from a government website: "From 1995 these facts have been available but ignored. Overload, rather than component design, is the primary factor in the majority of prosthetic and implant failures. Safegaurding the long term integrity of the restoration, should be a shared responsibility between the patient and the health care team. As orthodentology increases at an exponential rate, it is extremely important to keep abreast of the latest advancements.


1:33:55


Deann advises to make sure they explain dental restoration start to finish - had Deann known and understood what a 'passive system' meant in 2005 she would have made them fix it - but she didn't have informed consent


1:34:30


Understanding Galvanism and how important it is before you go to a dental office so you don't end up like Deann - her website motto is "learn from my mistake - don't become one"


1:35:40


Deann encourages people to visit her website The Empowered Patient - take advantage of the info that is there - take advantage learn about metals and anatomy - and listen to your instinct - don't take dentist words as gospel
 

 
Connect with Deann Merchant
 


Dental Website: Http://www.WelcometoDDS.com


 


Pages of interest:


The Empowered Patient - educational page for patients


Share Your Story - The Patients Page - houses patient stories/comments


Kindred Journeys - Creative outlet on personal harm (If you use a computer, music will play automatically. I wrote that about our countries despair and had someone else do the vocals, she also added her own lyrics.


Angels of Awareness - Children who succumb to a dental procedure


 


Facebook Awareness Group & awareness page:


https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheFlossingofAmericasDentalPatients/


https://www.facebook.com/deesdentaldisaster/

 
Musical Achievements:
 


My first professional gig a year after stepping up to follow my passion was in 2009. Every project that followed gave me more confidence and nothing seemed out of my reach. https://www.youtube.com/user/natsway/videos?view_as=subscriber


 


Originals & obscure covers Http://www.Soundcloud.com/deann-merchant


Leaving a digital footprint for my granddaughter Natalie https://drooble.com/deanne.merchant/music


 


One of the first songs I penned was about rescue animals. A rather 'dark' toned song I was able to use it to raise just over $1000. for the rescue. https://www.amazon.com/Shelter-Helping-Animals-Song-Time/dp/B009NWL0JQ


We also did online gigs to raise money, this is one on the Gigee platform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25JmlOOmFjU


 


This website houses the most complete collection of renditions of Robert Johnson's infamous blues song 'Dust My Broom'. I have 2 renditions, 1 solo slide, and 1 band performance on this page http://www.dustmybroom.nl/2009.html. Actor Steven Seagal is also on that site. Main page: http://www.dustmybroom.nl/ 


There's also a great article written by Jas Obrecht for anyone interested in the story of the infamous song. 
 
Performing
 


The following link is the song I spoke of that was written by famous bluesman, Willie Dickson and sung by Howl'n Wolf. His granddaughter, Tomiko Dixon, had me do her version as a demo. It was my first crack at doing my own thing and transforming into my alter ego, Mama Dee.  https://www.reverbnation.com/deannmerchant/song/18609081-piece-of-the-pie The other song I couldn't remember the name of was 'Hallelujuah' that's also on reverb. 


 


I became a part of the SESAC family 2013 as songwriter. They are one of three of the major Performing Rights Organizations (PROs) that houses my small repetoire of original music.


This link is one of the two WIB's (Women In Blues) promotional video's I was lucky enough to have a sample of my music featured on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfKBz8ddC0k


 


I was also a blues DJ for a few years with an award-winning station http://kconlineradio.com/ and my show was called The Juke Joint (still on fb I believe). They still have me listed in the 'About' section surprisingly, lol. And, I still run my Halloween special on social media every Halloween just for good measure, lol. 


 


My partner & I Al Dzeizic won the 1st round in the 2015 Ct. Blues competition for a chance to play at the International Blues Competition in Nashville, TN. Just so happens, that venture got us a spot on 'GrandMa's Attic' on Ct. local TV. 


Proudest moment ever? Being in the same lineup as John Cafferty & The Beaver Brown band!! 


 


And one better? His sax player ended up becoming a personal friend. And standing in front of a captive audience performing my originals (even with a pic line in my strumming arm, lol)? OMG, PRICELESS!! 


 


That little girl who dreamed the impossible dream and against the odds, made it happen!! I was able to come full circle despite my mother's best efforts to break me. <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1A-AZATnVw'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1A-AZATnVw</a>
 

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As an adult, her musical passion would only be defeated by her lack of a toothy smile. She hid from the world.
But Deann was determined to pursue her passion and she re-mortgaged her house to finance the implant of dentures that would physically allow her to sing, and emotionally free her to perform in public.
Deann was fulfilling her life long dream and sharing her voice and music. She was the happiest she’d ever been.
But then her dentures started to fail, and the nightmare of losing her ability to sing, and confidence to appear in public, vanished.
That loss was compounded by 2 things: metal poisoning as the dental restoration leaked toxic elements into her body, and a dental industry without oversight or accountability.
Deann shares how she’s evolved to be an advocate for people harmed by the dental industry.

 
SHOW NOTES
Born Musician

0:05:10


Deann grew up in Massachusetts but her childhood was not stellar, she is an abuse and neglect survivor, this is important to her story because the abuse and neglect caused her to lose her teeth at 16 - she had a challenging and dysfunctional family


0:06:10


At 3 years old, Deann is on a bar room floor eating coke and chips - at 6 years old she was viciously abused for an undiagnosed physical ailment - at 9 years she watched her mother throwing a knife across a room - at 11 years Deann got tuberculosis because her father was dying in the house - and at 16 years old she lost her teeth


0:06:55


But underneath all that, Deann knew she had a voice and something to offer - music and singing - and that allowed her to survive - her family did not seek medical treatment or dental treatment


0:07:40


At 15 Deann got an abscess and the school finally stepped in and said Deann needs major dental work and it has to be addressed - but it was too late and too expensive to save them, so that had to be removed, except for bottom six


0:08:10


But because it was done to Deann before she had finished growing, it caused her upper jaw to atrophy immediately - over the years Deann became 'indentalist' / toothless because of the atrophy


0:09:10


This caused Deann to feel insecure - Deann has no doubt that had she been born into a loving and accepting family, she would have been on stage singing - but Deann's mother didn't want boys, girls were nothing to her, Deann was insignificant and a burden - this is set Deann up for adulthood in a really bad way


0:10:10


It made Deann hide with embarrassment and pain that she would be judged and couldn't do her craft of singing - all singers need teeth, saliva and all functioning - as Deann looks back, it looks like her mother knew singing and music was Deann passion and made it her sole purpose that Deann would never achieve that


0:11:40


Deann ended up with an upper denture and her 6 lower teeth - over the years because Deann couldn't use her molars to chew, she had to use her front and that caused her upper jaw to wear down, so that an upper denture couldn't be affixed
 
 
 
 
Going After Her Dreams
 


0:12:40


Because her upper denture was not properly modeled, it caused a lot of wear and tear on her gums over 27 years


0:13:40


Deann got married as a teenager, a mistake as she had no social and life skills to make a good decision - she grew up only hearing how stupid she was, how ugly, don't smile, don't talk, keep your head down, use your back because you don't have any brains - so when someone paid her positive attention, she was attracted to him


0:15:10


Her marriage lasted 10 years, but he was physically abusive, broke her dentures, black eyes, etc - but she had 3 boys and didn't want them to see or live in that same situation she grew up in - Deann had to escape the home to escape a death by her husband


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Lily Kaiser is from Germany, and she started getting sick while completing her PhD in mathematics. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, Lily experienced patient gaslighting by the medical system: they denied her physical symptoms were real.</p>
<p>Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or persons seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using persistent denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, gaslighting involves attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's belief.</p>
<p>It is a common tactic used by sociopaths and narcissists.</p>
<p>And many psychiatrists.</p>
<p>As you will hear Lily report about her genetic testing, it turns out she has a rare pathogenic variant gene that may be responsible for her myriad symptoms.</p>
<p>Note that "Lily" is using a pseudonym to protect her from more medical gaslighting.</p>
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<p>LILY KAISER SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Math Wiz</p>

0:05:10


Lily grew up in the country side of Germany with her brothers and sisters - Lily did well in school, very good grades - she was a healthy child with the usual stomach bugs and occasional headache - she did have weak upper body strength so got a poor grade for fitness class - Lily tried to train her upper body, but it did not respond - ("Lily" is a pseudonym to protect her from more medical gaslighting)


0:08:10


Lily studied mathematics at university and she choose this major in part because of the film "<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film)'>A Beautiful Mind</a>" - Lily always liked math and participated in math competitions - she found studying math at university to be very enjoyable - Lily is by nature curious and likes to explore - and math is about thinking, but she cannot do it any more due to illness


0:10:10


But Lily did not like school before university because she likes her freedom and to make decisions for herself - so she had disagreements and fights with her teachers who wanted her to obey - thinking was prohibited


0:11:25


Lily started to get sick during her PhD studies - she had a urinary infection that was treated with antibiotics and experienced gut pain, in retrospect she thinks it is neuropathic pain, especially when she is crashed with <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Post-exertional_malaise'>post exertional malaise</a> (PEM) - but during that time she continued to have pain and stomach problems - about 4 or 5 years later she got ME (<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>), but initially ignored it as she could still do her work and socializing


0:12:50


But this changed with an infection, and ME started mildly - Lily started to experience the symptom PEM and was too sick to be social on the weekends as she had to rest and conserve energy to make it through the work week - no parties, no dancing


0:14:10


Lily has been diagnosed with <a href='https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/neurology_neurosurgery/centers_clinics/peripheral_nerve/conditions/small_fiber_sensory_neuropathy.html'>Small Fibre Neuropathy</a> (SFN) and it may be implicated in her gut pain - she had multiple infections before ME developed, she just thought she had the common flu but she had other weird symptoms like cognitive and balance problems and felt exhausted - she continued working out but this may have been a big mistake - she was doing high performance training about 14 hours a week before she got sick


0:16:10


Lily had a passion for lifting weights and doing aerobic training but with her symptoms she cut back to 7 hours a week - but it felt like the infection never went away and she was on sick leave for 5 weeks and took 1 week vacation but did not feel better - Lily did not want to miss work and forced herself to return - soon she realized she was not well enough for full time and reduced her hours
 

 
Being Gaslighted
 


0:17:50


But while she cut her work hours, she resumed her 14 hours of physical training - at this point Lily is convinced her problem is not physical, her problem is that she is stressed and that if she did the things she loved, her symptoms would resolve - that did not happen - but Lily was totally convinced that doing what she loved would fix her physical symptoms - her doctors reinforced that Lily's problems were psychological


0:20:10


After about a year, Lily started to question the psychological theory of why she was sick because in spite of doing exercise, she was getting worse - Lily wanted to return to work and secure her financial future - she asked her psychiatrist why she had not improved


0:22:10


Lily started to research her symptoms and when she read the <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Consensus_Criteria'>Canadian Consensus Criteria </a>(for ME) list she recognized her own experience and realized the psychological diagnosis was not correct - and this is when the trouble with all the doctors started - and if Lily wasn't the person she was, she could've ended up very depressed and suicidal


0:24:00


The psychiatrist did not agree Lily's symptoms were biological and switched her diagnosis from depression to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic_symptom_disorder'>somatoform</a> disorder / psychosomatic - Lily got a copy of her medical file and read what the psychiatrist had written about her, including to her employer's insurer - the psychiatrist wrote that Lily had 'false illness beliefs', a psychosomatic condition and refuses to accept it is psychological - in reality it is the psychiatrist who has the false illness belief


0:26:55


At the same time, Lily also started to see other doctors and was lucky to get into the <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charit%C3%A9'>Charite</a> (hospital) in Berlin and they specialize in CFS and do a lot of biological testing - but whenever tests came back normal, the psychiatrist would say that Lily must accept the psychological diagnosis - but Lily said they'd already tried to treat her symptoms as psych and it didn't work - they must find the problem in order for the correct solution - trying the same useless treatment is stupid


0:28:55


The psychiatrist did not believe Lily and wrote in her medical file that she will not accept the psych diagnosis - Lily was lucky to find a empathic GP so she didn't have to go to the psychiatrist any more - but Lily had continued working out to prove to the psychiatrist she wasn't depressed - but at this point Lily still did not know she had ME and that exercise was making her sicker


0:30:40


As soon as Lily got an ME diagnosis she learned about pacing her energy in order to not get sicker - but the ME diagnosis made her sad and grieve for the loss of her old life - and that she would have to start a new life



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<p>Rare Pathogenic Gene</p>

0:32:25


Lily would've preferred having a depression or burnout diagnosis because the treatment for these were simple and she could carry on with her life - but with ME she had to accept facts and learn to live with restrictions - but Lily told her boyfriend that she felt like she was loosing part of her identity


0:36:00


The most difficult part has been the financial aspect and her inability to earn money - but she has lost from every aspect of her life: friends, hobbies are gone - and she's had and has huge problems with her family believing her - some don't believe she has a real disease and suggest she do yoga, or meditation, or see a spirit healer, or pray for god to help - god is punishing you because you don't believe in god


0:38:10


They are trying to explain it with easy solutions - but life is complex, and the solution will be complex - there is a point one has to accept that it requires a complex solution, and that is hard for most people


0:41:00


After being disillusioned by doctors, Lily started her own research and went for genetic testing via referral from her very supportive GP - Lily had whole exome, a subset of your genome, and known to be connected to genetic diseases


0:42:10


Lily told the geneticist about her 3 main symptoms that were most disabling - the genetic testing had rules to deterimine genetic diseases - but it is not like 23andMe, rather the geneticist looks at fundamental genetic variances


0:44:00


They did find a variant in Lily's genetics of 'pathogenic with unclear significance' - meaning this variant leads to disease in their modeling - next step is to try and find what illness is caused by the variant, to try to find the 'phenotype' - Lily was hopeful at first this would help her treat her symptoms, but there is research to be done


0:44:40


They also found the variant in one of Lily's parents and one of her siblings, and they both have some or most of the same symptoms as Lily - her parent was lucky they were in the US with good medical insurance at the time of illness and received good treatment - her sibling has the same set of symptoms, so they are mutual supports


0:46:10


It is a very rare genetic variant, less then 0.01 per cent - it is too early to say if the variant explains Lily's ME symptoms, or if a subset of people with ME have this variant - Lily questions if she actually has ME, although she fits the CCC 100%


0:47:30


Lily was reading lots of research papers about this protein encoded by her genetic variant - the receptor for the protein needs to be tested to determine if its dysfunctional - if so, it would change the function of the receptor - but its hard to find a lab to do the test and not available in Germany
 


<p>Hope Springs Eternal</p>

0:48:40


Lily, when she's feeling better, will contact international labs she knows from research papers that know about this receptor and to perform a function test - Lily has not been feeling well the last week, her SFN is acting up with lots of neuropathic pain in legs and arms, her head and neck, and couldn't mover her arm


0:50:40


Lily wonders if her disease is progressing - her sister says she is getting worse - Lily is using Lyrica and gabapentine for pain - Lily and her sister are using lidocaine patches on their skin where the pain is strongest and don't have much side effects - used a lot for neuropathic pain - cortisone also helps, especially headaches - but if she has a migraine only vimax helps


0:52:10


Lily also takes immunoglobulin subcutaneously and this has cut down on her infections - and that is good because they worsen her ME - her quality of life has improved - but this year she's more sick then last year


0:55:10


Lily has to spend most of her time reclined in bed - despite this Lily considers herself lucky that she can more than many people with ME - Lily wants to find a lab to test the function of her genetic variant


0:57:10


On good days she's happy for what she can do, and on bad days she reminds herself there will be good days ahead - Lily hopes to return to work, to resume her hobbies, to hike in the mountains again - Lily has not given up.
 
_____________________________________________
 
Are you dealing with the effects of medical error? Do you need the support of an experienced counsellor?
 
You can book an online video counseling appointment with me at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a>
 
Counsellor and podcast host Scott Simpson:
 
   
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lily Kaiser is from Germany, and she started getting sick while completing her PhD in mathematics. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, Lily experienced patient gaslighting by the medical system: they denied her physical symptoms were real.</p>
<p>Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or persons seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using persistent denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, gaslighting involves attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's belief.</p>
<p>It is a common tactic used by sociopaths and narcissists.</p>
<p>And many psychiatrists.</p>
<p>As you will hear Lily report about her genetic testing, it turns out she has a rare pathogenic variant gene that may be responsible for her myriad symptoms.</p>
<p><em>Note that "Lily" is using a pseudonym to protect her from more medical gaslighting.</em></p>
<p> </p>
<p>LILY KAISER SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Math Wiz</p>

0:05:10


Lily grew up in the country side of Germany with her brothers and sisters - Lily did well in school, very good grades - she was a healthy child with the usual stomach bugs and occasional headache - she did have weak upper body strength so got a poor grade for fitness class - Lily tried to train her upper body, but it did not respond - ("Lily" is a pseudonym to protect her from more medical gaslighting)


0:08:10


Lily studied mathematics at university and she choose this major in part because of the film "<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film)'>A Beautiful Mind</a>" - Lily always liked math and participated in math competitions - she found studying math at university to be very enjoyable - Lily is by nature curious and likes to explore - and math is about thinking, but she cannot do it any more due to illness


0:10:10


But Lily did not like school before university because she likes her freedom and to make decisions for herself - so she had disagreements and fights with her teachers who wanted her to obey - thinking was prohibited


0:11:25


Lily started to get sick during her PhD studies - she had a urinary infection that was treated with antibiotics and experienced gut pain, in retrospect she thinks it is neuropathic pain, especially when she is crashed with <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Post-exertional_malaise'>post exertional malaise</a> (PEM) - but during that time she continued to have pain and stomach problems - about 4 or 5 years later she got ME (<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>myalgic encephalomyelitis</a>), but initially ignored it as she could still do her work and socializing


0:12:50


But this changed with an infection, and ME started mildly - Lily started to experience the symptom PEM and was too sick to be social on the weekends as she had to rest and conserve energy to make it through the work week - no parties, no dancing


0:14:10


Lily has been diagnosed with <a href='https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/neurology_neurosurgery/centers_clinics/peripheral_nerve/conditions/small_fiber_sensory_neuropathy.html'>Small Fibre Neuropathy</a> (SFN) and it may be implicated in her gut pain - she had multiple infections before ME developed, she just thought she had the common flu but she had other weird symptoms like cognitive and balance problems and felt exhausted - she continued working out but this may have been a big mistake - she was doing high performance training about 14 hours a week before she got sick


0:16:10


Lily had a passion for lifting weights and doing aerobic training but with her symptoms she cut back to 7 hours a week - but it felt like the infection never went away and she was on sick leave for 5 weeks and took 1 week vacation but did not feel better - Lily did not want to miss work and forced herself to return - soon she realized she was not well enough for full time and reduced her hours
 

 
Being Gaslighted
 


0:17:50


But while she cut her work hours, she resumed her 14 hours of physical training - at this point Lily is convinced her problem is not physical, her problem is that she is stressed and that if she did the things she loved, her symptoms would resolve - that did not happen - but Lily was totally convinced that doing what she loved would fix her physical symptoms - her doctors reinforced that Lily's problems were psychological


0:20:10


After about a year, Lily started to question the psychological theory of why she was sick because in spite of doing exercise, she was getting worse - Lily wanted to return to work and secure her financial future - she asked her psychiatrist why she had not improved


0:22:10


Lily started to research her symptoms and when she read the <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Consensus_Criteria'>Canadian Consensus Criteria </a>(for ME) list she recognized her own experience and realized the psychological diagnosis was not correct - and this is when the trouble with all the doctors started - and if Lily wasn't the person she was, she could've ended up very depressed and suicidal


0:24:00


The psychiatrist did not agree Lily's symptoms were biological and switched her diagnosis from depression to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic_symptom_disorder'>somatoform</a> disorder / psychosomatic - Lily got a copy of her medical file and read what the psychiatrist had written about her, including to her employer's insurer - the psychiatrist wrote that Lily had 'false illness beliefs', a psychosomatic condition and refuses to accept it is psychological - in reality it is the psychiatrist who has the false illness belief


0:26:55


At the same time, Lily also started to see other doctors and was lucky to get into the <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charit%C3%A9'>Charite</a> (hospital) in Berlin and they specialize in CFS and do a lot of biological testing - but whenever tests came back normal, the psychiatrist would say that Lily must accept the psychological diagnosis - but Lily said they'd already tried to treat her symptoms as psych and it didn't work - they must find the problem in order for the correct solution - trying the same useless treatment is stupid


0:28:55


The psychiatrist did not believe Lily and wrote in her medical file that she will not accept the psych diagnosis - Lily was lucky to find a empathic GP so she didn't have to go to the psychiatrist any more - but Lily had continued working out to prove to the psychiatrist she wasn't depressed - but at this point Lily still did not know she had ME and that exercise was making her sicker


0:30:40


As soon as Lily got an ME diagnosis she learned about pacing her energy in order to not get sicker - but the ME diagnosis made her sad and grieve for the loss of her old life - and that she would have to start a new life



<p></p>
<p>Rare Pathogenic Gene</p>

0:32:25


Lily would've preferred having a depression or burnout diagnosis because the treatment for these were simple and she could carry on with her life - but with ME she had to accept facts and learn to live with restrictions - but Lily told her boyfriend that she felt like she was loosing part of her identity


0:36:00


The most difficult part has been the financial aspect and her inability to earn money - but she has lost from every aspect of her life: friends, hobbies are gone - and she's had and has huge problems with her family believing her - some don't believe she has a real disease and suggest she do yoga, or meditation, or see a spirit healer, or pray for god to help - god is punishing you because you don't believe in god


0:38:10


They are trying to explain it with easy solutions - but life is complex, and the solution will be complex - there is a point one has to accept that it requires a complex solution, and that is hard for most people


0:41:00


After being disillusioned by doctors, Lily started her own research and went for genetic testing via referral from her very supportive GP - Lily had whole exome, a subset of your genome, and known to be connected to genetic diseases


0:42:10


Lily told the geneticist about her 3 main symptoms that were most disabling - the genetic testing had rules to deterimine genetic diseases - but it is not like 23andMe, rather the geneticist looks at fundamental genetic variances


0:44:00


They did find a variant in Lily's genetics of 'pathogenic with unclear significance' - meaning this variant leads to disease in their modeling - next step is to try and find what illness is caused by the variant, to try to find the 'phenotype' - Lily was hopeful at first this would help her treat her symptoms, but there is research to be done


0:44:40


They also found the variant in one of Lily's parents and one of her siblings, and they both have some or most of the same symptoms as Lily - her parent was lucky they were in the US with good medical insurance at the time of illness and received good treatment - her sibling has the same set of symptoms, so they are mutual supports


0:46:10


It is a very rare genetic variant, less then 0.01 per cent - it is too early to say if the variant explains Lily's ME symptoms, or if a subset of people with ME have this variant - Lily questions if she actually has ME, although she fits the CCC 100%


0:47:30


Lily was reading lots of research papers about this protein encoded by her genetic variant - the receptor for the protein needs to be tested to determine if its dysfunctional - if so, it would change the function of the receptor - but its hard to find a lab to do the test and not available in Germany
 


<p>Hope Springs Eternal</p>

0:48:40


Lily, when she's feeling better, will contact international labs she knows from research papers that know about this receptor and to perform a function test - Lily has not been feeling well the last week, her SFN is acting up with lots of neuropathic pain in legs and arms, her head and neck, and couldn't mover her arm


0:50:40


Lily wonders if her disease is progressing - her sister says she is getting worse - Lily is using Lyrica and gabapentine for pain - Lily and her sister are using lidocaine patches on their skin where the pain is strongest and don't have much side effects - used a lot for neuropathic pain - cortisone also helps, especially headaches - but if she has a migraine only vimax helps


0:52:10


Lily also takes immunoglobulin subcutaneously and this has cut down on her infections - and that is good because they worsen her ME - her quality of life has improved - but this year she's more sick then last year


0:55:10


Lily has to spend most of her time reclined in bed - despite this Lily considers herself lucky that she can more than many people with ME - Lily wants to find a lab to test the function of her genetic variant


0:57:10


On good days she's happy for what she can do, and on bad days she reminds herself there will be good days ahead - Lily hopes to return to work, to resume her hobbies, to hike in the mountains again - Lily has not given up.
 
_____________________________________________
 
Are you dealing with the effects of medical error? Do you need the support of an experienced counsellor?
 
You can book an online video counseling appointment with me at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a>
 
Counsellor and podcast host Scott Simpson:
 
   
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Lily Kaiser is from Germany, and she started getting sick while completing her PhD in mathematics. 
Unfortunately, Lily experienced patient gaslighting by the medical system: they denied her physical symptoms were real.
Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or persons seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using persistent denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, gaslighting involves attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's belief.
It is a common tactic used by sociopaths and narcissists.
And many psychiatrists.
As you will hear Lily report about her genetic testing, it turns out she has a rare pathogenic variant gene that may be responsible for her myriad symptoms.
Note that "Lily" is using a pseudonym to protect her from more medical gaslighting.
 
LILY KAISER SHOW NOTES
Math Wiz

0:05:10


Lily grew up in the country side of Germany with her brothers and sisters - Lily did well in school, very good grades - she was a healthy child with the usual stomach bugs and occasional headache - she did have weak upper body strength so got a poor grade for fitness class - Lily tried to train her upper body, but it did not respond - ("Lily" is a pseudonym to protect her from more medical gaslighting)


0:08:10


Lily studied mathematics at university and she choose this major in part because of the film "A Beautiful Mind" - Lily always liked math and participated in math competitions - she found studying math at university to be very enjoyable - Lily is by nature curious and likes to explore - and math is about thinking, but she cannot do it any more due to illness


0:10:10


But Lily did not like school before university because she likes her freedom and to make decisions for herself - so she had disagreements and fights with her teachers who wanted her to obey - thinking was prohibited


0:11:25


Lily started to get sick during her PhD studies - she had a urinary infection that was treated with antibiotics and experienced gut pain, in retrospect she thinks it is neuropathic pain, especially when she is crashed with post exertional malaise (PEM) - but during that time she continued to have pain and stomach problems - about 4 or 5 years later she got ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis), but initially ignored it as she could still do her work and socializing


0:12:50


But this changed with an infection, and ME started mildly - Lily started to experience the symptom PEM and was too sick to be social on the weekends as she had to rest and conserve energy to make it through the work week - no parties, no dancing


0:14:10


Lily has been diagnosed with Small Fibre Neuropathy (SFN) and it may be implicated in her gut pain - she had multiple infections before ME developed, she just thought she had the common flu but she had other weird symptoms like cognitive and balance problems and felt exhausted - she continued working out but this may have been a big mistake - she was doing high performance training about 14 hours a week before she got sick


0:16:10


Lily had a passion for lifting weights and doing aerobic training but with her symptoms she cut back to 7 hours a week - but it felt like the infection never went away and she was on sick leave for 5 weeks and took 1 week vacation but did not feel better - Lily did not want to miss work and forced herself to return - soon she realized she was not well enough for full time and reduced her hours
 

 
Being Gaslighted
 


0:17:50


But while she cut her work hours, she resumed her 14 hours of physical training - at this point Lily is convinced her problem is not physical, her problem is that she is stressed and that if she did the things she loved, her symptoms would resolve - that did not happen - but Lily was totally convinced that doing what she loved would fix her physical symptoms - her doctors reinforced ]]></itunes:summary>
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        <itunes:title>Lisa Jones: "I refuse to go to the ER to be humiliated." - Living with a complex illness.</itunes:title>
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<p> </p>
<p>Hello humanity - I have to apologize that this episode is no longer available. As others have learned, whistleblowers pay a price - professionally, socially, financially - and emotionally.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this episode guests’ trauma and PTSD from health care experiences continues to profoundly impact them. They had hoped that by sharing their story anonymously, others would not experience the same health care trauma. </p>
<p>And many people on social media did commiserate with similar traumatic health care experiences, however, the knowledge that the guests’ story was public weighed heavily on them. No doubt concern for future access to safe health care was a consideration. </p>
<p>And I understand - sick and disabled patients are vulnerable enough without having to worry if local health care workers are going to seek revenge for speaking publicly about harmful and dangerous health care experiences. </p>
<p>Until the medical system values transparency, and devalues arrogant god complexes, whistleblowers - especially sick and disabled whistleblowers - will continue to be intimidated and punished for speaking out about harmful health care. This must change.</p>
<p>If you have a compelling medical error experience you would like to share on the podcast, send me an email with a brief description of your experience to <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>_______________________________________</p>
<p>Support Medical Error Interviews podcast</p>
<p>Subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, Podbean or other podcast platforms.</p>
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<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of interviews.</p>
<p>_______________________________________</p>
<p>Harmed by medical error? Living with a chronic illness?</p>
<p>Do you need the support of an experienced counsellor?</p>
<p>You can book an online video counseling appointment with me - find out more <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a></p>
<p>     </p>
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<p> </p>
<p>Hello humanity - I have to apologize that this episode is no longer available. As others have learned, whistleblowers pay a price - professionally, socially, financially - and emotionally.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this episode guests’ trauma and PTSD from health care experiences continues to profoundly impact them. They had hoped that by sharing their story anonymously, others would not experience the same health care trauma. </p>
<p>And many people on social media did commiserate with similar traumatic health care experiences, however, the knowledge that the guests’ story was public weighed heavily on them. No doubt concern for future access to safe health care was a consideration. </p>
<p>And I understand - sick and disabled patients are vulnerable enough without having to worry if local health care workers are going to seek revenge for speaking publicly about harmful and dangerous health care experiences. </p>
<p>Until the medical system values transparency, and devalues arrogant god complexes, whistleblowers - especially sick and disabled whistleblowers - will continue to be intimidated and punished for speaking out about harmful health care. This must change.</p>
<p>If you have a compelling medical error experience you would like to share on the podcast, send me an email with a brief description of your experience to <a href='mailto:RemediesPodcast@gmail.com'>RemediesPodcast@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>_______________________________________</p>
<p>Support Medical Error Interviews podcast</p>
<p>Subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, Podbean or other podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Become a monthly Patron by going to <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Patreon.com/MedicalErrorInterviews</a>.</p>
<p>Premium Patrons get access to video versions of interviews.</p>
<p>_______________________________________</p>
<p>Harmed by medical error? Living with a chronic illness?</p>
<p>Do you need the support of an experienced counsellor?</p>
<p>You can book an online video counseling appointment with me - find out more <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a></p>
<p>     </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ 
 
Hello humanity - I have to apologize that this episode is no longer available. As others have learned, whistleblowers pay a price - professionally, socially, financially - and emotionally.
Unfortunately, this episode guests’ trauma and PTSD from health care experiences continues to profoundly impact them. They had hoped that by sharing their story anonymously, others would not experience the same health care trauma. 
And many people on social media did commiserate with similar traumatic health care experiences, however, the knowledge that the guests’ story was public weighed heavily on them. No doubt concern for future access to safe health care was a consideration. 
And I understand - sick and disabled patients are vulnerable enough without having to worry if local health care workers are going to seek revenge for speaking publicly about harmful and dangerous health care experiences. 
Until the medical system values transparency, and devalues arrogant god complexes, whistleblowers - especially sick and disabled whistleblowers - will continue to be intimidated and punished for speaking out about harmful health care. This must change.
If you have a compelling medical error experience you would like to share on the podcast, send me an email with a brief description of your experience to RemediesPodcast@gmail.com
_______________________________________
Support Medical Error Interviews podcast
Subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, Podbean or other podcast platforms.
Become a monthly Patron by going to Patreon.com/MedicalErrorInterviews.
Premium Patrons get access to video versions of interviews.
_______________________________________
Harmed by medical error? Living with a chronic illness?
Do you need the support of an experienced counsellor?
You can book an online video counseling appointment with me - find out more Remedies Counseling
     
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        <title>Mike Eisenberg: To Err Is Human: A documentary about medical error and patient safety</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>The Sheridan family knows first hand the devastation caused by medical error.</p>
<p>Sue and Pat’s newborn son Cal, due to misdiagnosing his jaundice, was brain damaged. Cal now lives with significant cerebral palsy.</p>
<p>Years later, Pat was correctly diagnosed with cancer, but for 6 months a pathology report failed to be communicated to the doctor or Pat. Pat died of cancer at age 45.</p>
<p>In this episode of Medical Error Interviews, I chat with documentary filmmaker Mike Eisenberg about his film To Err Is Human and about the Sheridan family and the state of patient safety.</p>
<p>Mike is the son of late patient safety pioneer Dr John M Eisenberg, and as you will hear Mike say, when he started looking into medical errors and patient safety, he felt compelled to carry on his father’s legacy.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Mike Eisenberg Show Notes</p>

Following his Father's footsteps
 
0:07:00


Mike was born in Philadelphia - childhood mostly in Maryland - but as a child was not interested in health care, even though his father was a patient safety advocate - as documentary filmmaker he wanted to tell stories otherwise not seen - fiction is harder and more expensive to make into film - the documentary path led down the path to make "<a href='https://www.toerrishumanfilm.com/'>To Err is Human</a>"


0:09:30


About 3.5 years ago it started with a short film on <a href='https://www.ahrq.gov/'>AHRQ: Agency for Health Research and Quality</a>, the organization Mike's father started and was the Director until he passed away in 2002 - there was annual debates over AHRQ's budget and attempts to slash it - but AHRQ has far less money they should given their role


0:10:30


Started the documentary by driving to DC, pay out of pocket, and interview his father's old colleagues about AHRQ's role that the public knows nothing about - themes of medical error, patient safety and improving care emerged - it was evident to Mike that conversation was no longer being had - if felt to Mike it was his responsibility to carry on his father's work


0:11:30


We, including his production partners Matt Downe and Kailey Brackett try to stay positive in tone and show what happens when people take this seriously - focus on the process to make things better


0:12:45


Report in late '90s titled <a href='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25077248'>To Err is Human, Building a Safer System</a> - a report that used research that determined how bad medical error was - the data was shocking - it said 44,000 to 98,000 died each year from medical error - that was brand new concept, made new headlines, President Clinton said it would be tackled


0:14:00


At the time, those numbers were questioned - but today one study, Marty Macquarrie out of John Hopkins that says 251,000 die each year - and John James's study that says between 240,000 and 440,000 die each year from medical error - hard to quantify because CDC (Centre for Disease Control) doesn't have a box to tick for 'death by medical error' - even conservative estimates have medical error as 3rd leading cause of death


0:16:00


We compare how many plane crashes, 7 or 8, would happen each day to equal medical error deaths each day - a staggering number, almost the same as the opioid epidemic - the important question is not accuracy of numbers, but how to get accurate numbers
 

 
The Sheridan family and medical errors
 


0:18:00


There is not a consensus around medical error death numbers - sometimes people die at home from hospital errors - part of the reason we've not seen more solutions is that the public, especially Americans, have been trained to treat the medical system: that physicians don't make mistakes, they are right all the time


0:19:45


The real reason we've not seen change in patient safety is because physicians have not embraced the patient in this process - some health care systems have, they visited over 250 health care systems - many of them doing interesting things to help curb error, but only a few have really engaged the patient


0:21:00


If a Hospital engages patients in a patient safety process, then the Hospital is admitting it makes mistakes, and that admission is considered guilt - but <a href='https://www.medstargeorgetown.org/contact-us/'>Med Star Health</a>, especially out of Georgetown, show promise: they had a public facing explanation of an error that was prevented - great message that most of these errors are preventable


0:22:30


It is easy to say to public we are humans too and make mistakes, and most are not egregious or intentional - most hospital surgeries have a practice called 'stop the line' and reasses if things are organized correctly, a bean counter will say it is not efficient and costs money, but it costs less then lawsuits


0:24:15


Regarding body cameras worn by physicians for patient safety, Mike considered including that aspect but thought it was too touchy subject - solutions for other societal problems can be embraced by health care - aviation is the most obvious, they interviewed <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesley_Sullenberger'>Sully Sullenburger</a> of the water landing in the Hudson River - vital health care takes a look outside its own walls


0:25:45


In Toronto we found a surgical team using video and other data to show when errors are most likely to occur and to use that data for better safety - 'hand offs' to other staff is obvious time things can go wrong


0:27:45


Improving patient safety is more than preventing law suits - the real 'bottom line' is about lives not profit - we expect health care to do what it is supposed to do and not cause new problems - what's important is communication with the patient


0:29:15


One of the stories in our film is about Sue Sheridan - her family experienced 2 medical errors - the 1st was her son Cal who has <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_palsy'>cerebral palsy</a> and got that at 5 days old because of a small over sight by not performing an available and cheap test when he was born with jaundice - the other case is about the father Pat who was diagnosed with cancer - they thought it was benign but sent sample for pathology examination
 

 
Aviation Culture vs Medical Culture
 


0:30:15


The results showed it was malignant, dangerous and needed to be removed - but those results didn't get through for 6 months because it was an over looked fax - so Pat didn't get treatment and died of cancer - but what doesn't go on the death certificate is that he lost 6 months of treatment


0:31:30


Organizations like the <a href='https://www.improvediagnosis.org/'>Society for Diagnostic Error in Medicine (SDIM)</a> is leading the charge on diagnostic errors


0:33:00


The biggest difference between airline industry culture and medical industry culture is the lack of transparency of the latter - recently an <a href='https://abcnews.go.com/US/plane-makes-emergency-landing-philadelphia/story?id=54530003'>airplane window cracked</a> and fell off and sucked a woman out the window, that was the 1st aviation accident that lead to a death in years - studies have found that most plane tragedies are not accidents


0:34:00


Recently <a href='https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/17/two-boeing-737-fatal-plane-crashes-the-world-turns-on-the-faa.html'>Boeing had 2 large plane crashes</a> and they've been open about determining what went wrong and how to fix it - the same thing should happen in health care


0:35:00


In aviation pilots have to re-take their test every 5 years to prove their competence - don't do that with driving cars, just give licenses when people are 17 and assume they'll good for the rest of their life - same thing with health care - we need to be honest about where health care is weak and where it can be improved


0:36:30


In aviation, airlines work together globally to improve safety for all airlines - but this is not the practice in most hospitals - but there are exceptions that share their research and date like <a href='https://intermountainhealthcare.org/about/'>Inter Mountain Heath Care in Utah</a>, and some in Boston that have embraced imperfection - when an error happens they gather the team to learn how to prevent it in the future, as opposed to how avoid bad PR (public relations), or blaming someone and firing them - that's not how you fix the problem


0:38:15


In the documentary, Sue's family engaged in litigation, they 'won' in one instance of medical error, but not in the other - Mike chose not to focus on the litigation angle in the documentary - for the medical error to Sue's son, they did not get a resolution - Sue has turned her entire life into advocacy - one of her achievements is that the test her son should have received - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilirubin'>bilirubin</a> - is now a requirement


0:39:45


For Sue's husband's medical error - been about 18 years since her husband died, and the hospital recently had a screening of the documentary and a panel discussion afterward - the first time the hospital had openly discussed the case with its own staff - the pathologist had told Sue that it was not his responsibility to make sure the info he sent got through to the receiver
 

 
Physicians have highest suicide rate
 


0:41:45


The US will have a shortage of physicians by 2024 often due to burnout - because they are also enterpreneurs - they have one of the most challenging jobs in the world


0:43:00


Physicians have highest suicide rate of all professions - rampant in physician culture, especially clinicians - Mike's friends that are doctors are over worked and its scares him - they needed to be treated right - but its hard to expect humans to be perfect all the time when they are not treated that way - when things go wrong, the hospital worries more about its image then the people, its a systems vs people problem - it promotes volume and that is not conducive to reliability


0:45:30


Mike calls upon patients to be a voice, its not just a hospital problem - don't have to go to school for many years, just need to listen and look - can avoid a lot of these mistakes if they listened to patients, and patients felt empowered to engage


0:47:00


Re physician suicide, it is an individual choice - wouldn't be surprised if financial problems are a factor - many start with 6 figure deaths, have families, and witness trauma every day, its a tough job - Mike has screened his film a lot in hospitals and he hears staff worried about losing job if point out errors - there is heirarchy in health care that is not healthy - old gaurd is not embracing new reality


0:50:00


One hospital claimed they had solved physician burnout by mandating that there was at least 6 hours between shifts - but that is still not reasonable - lessen to learn is suicide is individual, but common is that they feel their profession is not respected, appreciated - the message is that its been working for 70 years, why change now - but now is the time to change to take patient safety seriously


0:52:00


Fixing patient safety is about how care is delivered, and how we treat health care workers


0:53:00


In aviation, they do not permit pilots to fly if they haven't had a specific number of hourss of sleep, or if they've had even one drink of alcohol - some hospitals have similar standards, but why is that not a federal mandate? The Agency for Healthcare and Research Quality (AHRQ) is important to learn where to get better - but not much done with that info because they are underfunded but could cause huge change


0:55:00


This is not new issue, its been around for 20 years - need to have discussions about access to care, about diversity and care - but they are only improved if thought from a patient safety perspective
 

 
Media and its messages
 


0:56:15


Aviation has done it well because they've collaborated globally, but in the US hospital are autonomous and its hard to develop a plan that all will follow - while aviation has an organization that investigates crashes, that doesn't exist in health care - why is that not happening in health care? Because one person dies at a time.


0:58:00


In aviation, they 2 or 3 hundred at a time and those stories are on all the front pages - but when someone dies from communication breakdown there isn't the same collective impact or response - it boggles the mind


0:59:00


Since his documentary released, seen a documentary on HBO called <a href='https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/bleed-out'>Bleed Out</a>, made by a comedian who tells about his family's experience with medical error over the years - also <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bleeding_Edge'>Bleeding Edge</a> on Netflix about tthe FDA's lackadaisical approval of medical devices - 3 documentaries coming out in 1 year is progress - but how to make progress on the national stage? Mike working collaboratively on a project to put patient safety on the map


1:01:30


Media has a responsibility in patient safety too - Mike says every day there are 4 or 5 stories on gun violence in Chicago, where he lives - and that problem persists despite local government action to fix it - in health care errors will always occur, but can learn from errors to prevent future harm - but to fix the problem requires engaging the public


1:03:15


Media is hugely responsible for what people care about - the media has all the power about what people care about - essentially telling the political atmosphere what it should care about - Americans choose what they want to protest about - we need a better way to show the scope and scale of medical error without blaming doctors and nurses - there is no villain in patient safety - malpractice is different from patient safety


1:05:00


We need a villain, somebody to blame - last year at Vanderbilt, a nurse was thrown under the bus for making <a href='https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2019/02/04/vanderbilt-nurse-reckless-homicide-charge-vecuronium-versed-drug-error/2772648002/'>an error that resulted in death</a>, but it was actually a system failure that allowed her humanness to make an error, it was not her fault - instead of the hospital changing the system, they throw an employee under the bus, and she went to jail - then we wonder why people don't report errors when they see them


1:06:45


A culture shift in health care is needed, and it must come from the top - by working together we can send a message to 'the top' to make a change


1:08:00


Most patients want to be treated with honesty and transparency and will work together if something goes wrong - but that's not usually how it happens, it is usually a cover up, or denial, or this is how health care works and sucks to be you - but a culture of lawsuits has emerged as the way to get info out of hospitals - its not about money for most of these people
 
 
 
Less money, more transparency
 


1:09:15


In Sue's case, she sued for less money in exchange for greater transparency - we should get away from lawsuit culture and move toward working together


1:10:20


Mike has been fortunate to travel around the country to talk to people who knew his father {Founder of AHRQ} and sharing the film - a lot of people share the sentiment and passion he had still inspires them today - it is really cool as his son to hear that 17 years after passed away that he still has an impact on the health care system


1:11:00


Mike feels that a lot of the work that his father did - you can see clips of him on Youtube addressing Congress - is gone - don't why - was it because of his leadership, or because it was the right time? Mike thinks we need another leader who has the ability to bring people together - the way culture is set up, we need a celebrity - <a href='https://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/dennis-quaid-health-activist#1'>Dennis Quaid</a>, famous actor, almost had his 2 sons die due to medical error and he made a short documentary and started a foundation


1:12:30


There are other examples, <a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/sports/tennis/serena-williams-baby-vogue.html'>Serena Williams</a> who nearly died due to preventable harm and racism - problem is 'medical error' is a very scary term and it is applied to all doctors, nurses, surgeons and it shouldn't be that way - there is resistance by the health care industry to embrace the terms 'patient safety' etc and not as an offensive term


1:14:00


Mike is proud of father's legacy, but worries that it has been forgotten by the people who spearheaded it in the first place - we need a superhero who can jump up and say these are issues we should be talking about


1:15:00


Mike is now balancing promoting To Err is Human and speaking at medical conferences and symposiums and screened the film hundreds of times - we need to go one person at a time, change one mind at a time


1:17:00


There will be a screening of the film in Ottawa on <a href='https://www.who.int/campaigns/world-patient-safety-day/2019'>World Patient Safety Day</a> {Sept 17th} and for the first time there will a free online screening of the movie - to find link for <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/events/pages/exclusive-screening-of-to-err-is-human-a-patient-safety-documentary-.aspx'>free online screening</a> check out his website <a href='https://www.toerrishumanfilm.com/'>ToErrIsHumanFilm.com</a> and through twitter <a href='https://twitter.com/ToErrIsHumanDoc'>@ToErrIsHumanDoc</a>


1:18:20


Website also lists other screenings in local areas - if you're interested in hosting a screening for your community, contact Mike - they tried to make the film so it is a conversation starter - but this issue is not solved, so we need to remind people where we are at, so we can continue in the right direction
 
Connect with Mike
 


Twitter: To Err is Human <a href='https://twitter.com/ToErrIsHumanDoc'>@ToErrIsHumanDoc</a>


 


Facebook: <a href='mailto:www.facebook.com/ToErrIsHumanDoc'>https://www.facebook.com/ToErrIsHumanDoc</a>


 


Documentary Website: <a href='mailto:www.toerrishumanfilm.com'>https://www.toerrishumanfilm.com</a>
 

 
______________________________________________
 
Podcast Host and Counsellor Scott Simpson
 
Do you need an experienced counsellor for your medical error trauma?
 
Or for living with a chronic illness?
 
You can book an online video counseling appointment with me at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>RemediesCounseling.com</a>
 
  
 
 













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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sheridan family knows first hand the devastation caused by medical error.</p>
<p>Sue and Pat’s newborn son Cal, due to misdiagnosing his jaundice, was brain damaged. Cal now lives with significant cerebral palsy.</p>
<p>Years later, Pat was correctly diagnosed with cancer, but for 6 months a pathology report failed to be communicated to the doctor or Pat. Pat died of cancer at age 45.</p>
<p>In this episode of Medical Error Interviews, I chat with documentary filmmaker Mike Eisenberg about his film To Err Is Human and about the Sheridan family and the state of patient safety.</p>
<p>Mike is the son of late patient safety pioneer Dr John M Eisenberg, and as you will hear Mike say, when he started looking into medical errors and patient safety, he felt compelled to carry on his father’s legacy.</p>
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<p>Mike Eisenberg Show Notes</p>

Following his Father's footsteps
 
0:07:00


Mike was born in Philadelphia - childhood mostly in Maryland - but as a child was not interested in health care, even though his father was a patient safety advocate - as documentary filmmaker he wanted to tell stories otherwise not seen - fiction is harder and more expensive to make into film - the documentary path led down the path to make "<a href='https://www.toerrishumanfilm.com/'>To Err is Human</a>"


0:09:30


About 3.5 years ago it started with a short film on <a href='https://www.ahrq.gov/'>AHRQ: Agency for Health Research and Quality</a>, the organization Mike's father started and was the Director until he passed away in 2002 - there was annual debates over AHRQ's budget and attempts to slash it - but AHRQ has far less money they should given their role


0:10:30


Started the documentary by driving to DC, pay out of pocket, and interview his father's old colleagues about AHRQ's role that the public knows nothing about - themes of medical error, patient safety and improving care emerged - it was evident to Mike that conversation was no longer being had - if felt to Mike it was his responsibility to carry on his father's work


0:11:30


We, including his production partners Matt Downe and Kailey Brackett try to stay positive in tone and show what happens when people take this seriously - focus on the process to make things better


0:12:45


Report in late '90s titled <a href='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25077248'>To Err is Human, Building a Safer System</a> - a report that used research that determined how bad medical error was - the data was shocking - it said 44,000 to 98,000 died each year from medical error - that was brand new concept, made new headlines, President Clinton said it would be tackled


0:14:00


At the time, those numbers were questioned - but today one study, Marty Macquarrie out of John Hopkins that says 251,000 die each year - and John James's study that says between 240,000 and 440,000 die each year from medical error - hard to quantify because CDC (Centre for Disease Control) doesn't have a box to tick for 'death by medical error' - even conservative estimates have medical error as 3rd leading cause of death


0:16:00


We compare how many plane crashes, 7 or 8, would happen each day to equal medical error deaths each day - a staggering number, almost the same as the opioid epidemic - the important question is not accuracy of numbers, but how to get accurate numbers
 

 
The Sheridan family and medical errors
 


0:18:00


There is not a consensus around medical error death numbers - sometimes people die at home from hospital errors - part of the reason we've not seen more solutions is that the public, especially Americans, have been trained to treat the medical system: that physicians don't make mistakes, they are right all the time


0:19:45


The real reason we've not seen change in patient safety is because physicians have not embraced the patient in this process - some health care systems have, they visited over 250 health care systems - many of them doing interesting things to help curb error, but only a few have really engaged the patient


0:21:00


If a Hospital engages patients in a patient safety process, then the Hospital is admitting it makes mistakes, and that admission is considered guilt - but <a href='https://www.medstargeorgetown.org/contact-us/'>Med Star Health</a>, especially out of Georgetown, show promise: they had a public facing explanation of an error that was prevented - great message that most of these errors are preventable


0:22:30


It is easy to say to public we are humans too and make mistakes, and most are not egregious or intentional - most hospital surgeries have a practice called 'stop the line' and reasses if things are organized correctly, a bean counter will say it is not efficient and costs money, but it costs less then lawsuits


0:24:15


Regarding body cameras worn by physicians for patient safety, Mike considered including that aspect but thought it was too touchy subject - solutions for other societal problems can be embraced by health care - aviation is the most obvious, they interviewed <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesley_Sullenberger'>Sully Sullenburger</a> of the water landing in the Hudson River - vital health care takes a look outside its own walls


0:25:45


In Toronto we found a surgical team using video and other data to show when errors are most likely to occur and to use that data for better safety - 'hand offs' to other staff is obvious time things can go wrong


0:27:45


Improving patient safety is more than preventing law suits - the real 'bottom line' is about lives not profit - we expect health care to do what it is supposed to do and not cause new problems - what's important is communication with the patient


0:29:15


One of the stories in our film is about Sue Sheridan - her family experienced 2 medical errors - the 1st was her son Cal who has <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_palsy'>cerebral palsy</a> and got that at 5 days old because of a small over sight by not performing an available and cheap test when he was born with jaundice - the other case is about the father Pat who was diagnosed with cancer - they thought it was benign but sent sample for pathology examination
 

 
Aviation Culture vs Medical Culture
 


0:30:15


The results showed it was malignant, dangerous and needed to be removed - but those results didn't get through for 6 months because it was an over looked fax - so Pat didn't get treatment and died of cancer - but what doesn't go on the death certificate is that he lost 6 months of treatment


0:31:30


Organizations like the <a href='https://www.improvediagnosis.org/'>Society for Diagnostic Error in Medicine (SDIM)</a> is leading the charge on diagnostic errors


0:33:00


The biggest difference between airline industry culture and medical industry culture is the lack of transparency of the latter - recently an <a href='https://abcnews.go.com/US/plane-makes-emergency-landing-philadelphia/story?id=54530003'>airplane window cracked</a> and fell off and sucked a woman out the window, that was the 1st aviation accident that lead to a death in years - studies have found that most plane tragedies are not accidents


0:34:00


Recently <a href='https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/17/two-boeing-737-fatal-plane-crashes-the-world-turns-on-the-faa.html'>Boeing had 2 large plane crashes</a> and they've been open about determining what went wrong and how to fix it - the same thing should happen in health care


0:35:00


In aviation pilots have to re-take their test every 5 years to prove their competence - don't do that with driving cars, just give licenses when people are 17 and assume they'll good for the rest of their life - same thing with health care - we need to be honest about where health care is weak and where it can be improved


0:36:30


In aviation, airlines work together globally to improve safety for all airlines - but this is not the practice in most hospitals - but there are exceptions that share their research and date like <a href='https://intermountainhealthcare.org/about/'>Inter Mountain Heath Care in Utah</a>, and some in Boston that have embraced imperfection - when an error happens they gather the team to learn how to prevent it in the future, as opposed to how avoid bad PR (public relations), or blaming someone and firing them - that's not how you fix the problem


0:38:15


In the documentary, Sue's family engaged in litigation, they 'won' in one instance of medical error, but not in the other - Mike chose not to focus on the litigation angle in the documentary - for the medical error to Sue's son, they did not get a resolution - Sue has turned her entire life into advocacy - one of her achievements is that the test her son should have received - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilirubin'>bilirubin</a> - is now a requirement


0:39:45


For Sue's husband's medical error - been about 18 years since her husband died, and the hospital recently had a screening of the documentary and a panel discussion afterward - the first time the hospital had openly discussed the case with its own staff - the pathologist had told Sue that it was not his responsibility to make sure the info he sent got through to the receiver
 

 
Physicians have highest suicide rate
 


0:41:45


The US will have a shortage of physicians by 2024 often due to burnout - because they are also enterpreneurs - they have one of the most challenging jobs in the world


0:43:00


Physicians have highest suicide rate of all professions - rampant in physician culture, especially clinicians - Mike's friends that are doctors are over worked and its scares him - they needed to be treated right - but its hard to expect humans to be perfect all the time when they are not treated that way - when things go wrong, the hospital worries more about its image then the people, its a systems vs people problem - it promotes volume and that is not conducive to reliability


0:45:30


Mike calls upon patients to be a voice, its not just a hospital problem - don't have to go to school for many years, just need to listen and look - can avoid a lot of these mistakes if they listened to patients, and patients felt empowered to engage


0:47:00


Re physician suicide, it is an individual choice - wouldn't be surprised if financial problems are a factor - many start with 6 figure deaths, have families, and witness trauma every day, its a tough job - Mike has screened his film a lot in hospitals and he hears staff worried about losing job if point out errors - there is heirarchy in health care that is not healthy - old gaurd is not embracing new reality


0:50:00


One hospital claimed they had solved physician burnout by mandating that there was at least 6 hours between shifts - but that is still not reasonable - lessen to learn is suicide is individual, but common is that they feel their profession is not respected, appreciated - the message is that its been working for 70 years, why change now - but now is the time to change to take patient safety seriously


0:52:00


Fixing patient safety is about how care is delivered, and how we treat health care workers


0:53:00


In aviation, they do not permit pilots to fly if they haven't had a specific number of hourss of sleep, or if they've had even one drink of alcohol - some hospitals have similar standards, but why is that not a federal mandate? The Agency for Healthcare and Research Quality (AHRQ) is important to learn where to get better - but not much done with that info because they are underfunded but could cause huge change


0:55:00


This is not new issue, its been around for 20 years - need to have discussions about access to care, about diversity and care - but they are only improved if thought from a patient safety perspective
 

 
Media and its messages
 


0:56:15


Aviation has done it well because they've collaborated globally, but in the US hospital are autonomous and its hard to develop a plan that all will follow - while aviation has an organization that investigates crashes, that doesn't exist in health care - why is that not happening in health care? Because one person dies at a time.


0:58:00


In aviation, they 2 or 3 hundred at a time and those stories are on all the front pages - but when someone dies from communication breakdown there isn't the same collective impact or response - it boggles the mind


0:59:00


Since his documentary released, seen a documentary on HBO called <a href='https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/bleed-out'>Bleed Out</a>, made by a comedian who tells about his family's experience with medical error over the years - also <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bleeding_Edge'>Bleeding Edge</a> on Netflix about tthe FDA's lackadaisical approval of medical devices - 3 documentaries coming out in 1 year is progress - but how to make progress on the national stage? Mike working collaboratively on a project to put patient safety on the map


1:01:30


Media has a responsibility in patient safety too - Mike says every day there are 4 or 5 stories on gun violence in Chicago, where he lives - and that problem persists despite local government action to fix it - in health care errors will always occur, but can learn from errors to prevent future harm - but to fix the problem requires engaging the public


1:03:15


Media is hugely responsible for what people care about - the media has all the power about what people care about - essentially telling the political atmosphere what it should care about - Americans choose what they want to protest about - we need a better way to show the scope and scale of medical error without blaming doctors and nurses - there is no villain in patient safety - malpractice is different from patient safety


1:05:00


We need a villain, somebody to blame - last year at Vanderbilt, a nurse was thrown under the bus for making <a href='https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2019/02/04/vanderbilt-nurse-reckless-homicide-charge-vecuronium-versed-drug-error/2772648002/'>an error that resulted in death</a>, but it was actually a system failure that allowed her humanness to make an error, it was not her fault - instead of the hospital changing the system, they throw an employee under the bus, and she went to jail - then we wonder why people don't report errors when they see them


1:06:45


A culture shift in health care is needed, and it must come from the top - by working together we can send a message to 'the top' to make a change


1:08:00


Most patients want to be treated with honesty and transparency and will work together if something goes wrong - but that's not usually how it happens, it is usually a cover up, or denial, or this is how health care works and sucks to be you - but a culture of lawsuits has emerged as the way to get info out of hospitals - its not about money for most of these people
 
 
 
Less money, more transparency
 


1:09:15


In Sue's case, she sued for less money in exchange for greater transparency - we should get away from lawsuit culture and move toward working together


1:10:20


Mike has been fortunate to travel around the country to talk to people who knew his father {Founder of AHRQ} and sharing the film - a lot of people share the sentiment and passion he had still inspires them today - it is really cool as his son to hear that 17 years after passed away that he still has an impact on the health care system


1:11:00


Mike feels that a lot of the work that his father did - you can see clips of him on Youtube addressing Congress - is gone - don't why - was it because of his leadership, or because it was the right time? Mike thinks we need another leader who has the ability to bring people together - the way culture is set up, we need a celebrity - <a href='https://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/dennis-quaid-health-activist#1'>Dennis Quaid</a>, famous actor, almost had his 2 sons die due to medical error and he made a short documentary and started a foundation


1:12:30


There are other examples, <a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/sports/tennis/serena-williams-baby-vogue.html'>Serena Williams</a> who nearly died due to preventable harm and racism - problem is 'medical error' is a very scary term and it is applied to all doctors, nurses, surgeons and it shouldn't be that way - there is resistance by the health care industry to embrace the terms 'patient safety' etc and not as an offensive term


1:14:00


Mike is proud of father's legacy, but worries that it has been forgotten by the people who spearheaded it in the first place - we need a superhero who can jump up and say these are issues we should be talking about


1:15:00


Mike is now balancing promoting To Err is Human and speaking at medical conferences and symposiums and screened the film hundreds of times - we need to go one person at a time, change one mind at a time


1:17:00


There will be a screening of the film in Ottawa on <a href='https://www.who.int/campaigns/world-patient-safety-day/2019'>World Patient Safety Day</a> {Sept 17th} and for the first time there will a free online screening of the movie - to find link for <a href='https://www.patientsafetyinstitute.ca/en/events/pages/exclusive-screening-of-to-err-is-human-a-patient-safety-documentary-.aspx'>free online screening</a> check out his website <a href='https://www.toerrishumanfilm.com/'>ToErrIsHumanFilm.com</a> and through twitter <a href='https://twitter.com/ToErrIsHumanDoc'>@ToErrIsHumanDoc</a>


1:18:20


Website also lists other screenings in local areas - if you're interested in hosting a screening for your community, contact Mike - they tried to make the film so it is a conversation starter - but this issue is not solved, so we need to remind people where we are at, so we can continue in the right direction
 
Connect with Mike
 


Twitter: To Err is Human <a href='https://twitter.com/ToErrIsHumanDoc'>@ToErrIsHumanDoc</a>


 


Facebook: <a href='mailto:www.facebook.com/ToErrIsHumanDoc'>https://www.facebook.com/ToErrIsHumanDoc</a>


 


Documentary Website: <a href='mailto:www.toerrishumanfilm.com'>https://www.toerrishumanfilm.com</a>
 

 
______________________________________________
 
Podcast Host and Counsellor Scott Simpson
 
Do you need an experienced counsellor for your medical error trauma?
 
Or for living with a chronic illness?
 
You can book an online video counseling appointment with me at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>RemediesCounseling.com</a>
 
  
 
 













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Sue and Pat’s newborn son Cal, due to misdiagnosing his jaundice, was brain damaged. Cal now lives with significant cerebral palsy.
Years later, Pat was correctly diagnosed with cancer, but for 6 months a pathology report failed to be communicated to the doctor or Pat. Pat died of cancer at age 45.
In this episode of Medical Error Interviews, I chat with documentary filmmaker Mike Eisenberg about his film To Err Is Human and about the Sheridan family and the state of patient safety.
Mike is the son of late patient safety pioneer Dr John M Eisenberg, and as you will hear Mike say, when he started looking into medical errors and patient safety, he felt compelled to carry on his father’s legacy.

Mike Eisenberg Show Notes

Following his Father's footsteps
 
0:07:00


Mike was born in Philadelphia - childhood mostly in Maryland - but as a child was not interested in health care, even though his father was a patient safety advocate - as documentary filmmaker he wanted to tell stories otherwise not seen - fiction is harder and more expensive to make into film - the documentary path led down the path to make "To Err is Human"


0:09:30


About 3.5 years ago it started with a short film on AHRQ: Agency for Health Research and Quality, the organization Mike's father started and was the Director until he passed away in 2002 - there was annual debates over AHRQ's budget and attempts to slash it - but AHRQ has far less money they should given their role


0:10:30


Started the documentary by driving to DC, pay out of pocket, and interview his father's old colleagues about AHRQ's role that the public knows nothing about - themes of medical error, patient safety and improving care emerged - it was evident to Mike that conversation was no longer being had - if felt to Mike it was his responsibility to carry on his father's work


0:11:30


We, including his production partners Matt Downe and Kailey Brackett try to stay positive in tone and show what happens when people take this seriously - focus on the process to make things better


0:12:45


Report in late '90s titled To Err is Human, Building a Safer System - a report that used research that determined how bad medical error was - the data was shocking - it said 44,000 to 98,000 died each year from medical error - that was brand new concept, made new headlines, President Clinton said it would be tackled


0:14:00


At the time, those numbers were questioned - but today one study, Marty Macquarrie out of John Hopkins that says 251,000 die each year - and John James's study that says between 240,000 and 440,000 die each year from medical error - hard to quantify because CDC (Centre for Disease Control) doesn't have a box to tick for 'death by medical error' - even conservative estimates have medical error as 3rd leading cause of death


0:16:00


We compare how many plane crashes, 7 or 8, would happen each day to equal medical error deaths each day - a staggering number, almost the same as the opioid epidemic - the important question is not accuracy of numbers, but how to get accurate numbers
 

 
The Sheridan family and medical errors
 


0:18:00


There is not a consensus around medical error death numbers - sometimes people die at home from hospital errors - part of the reason we've not seen more solutions is that the public, especially Americans, have been trained to treat the medical system: that physicians don't make mistakes, they are right all the time


0:19:45


The real reason we've not seen change in patient safety is because physicians have not embraced the patient in this process - some health care systems have, they visited over 250 health care systems - many of them doing interesting things to help curb error, but only a few have really engaged the patient


0:21:00


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth went to the hospital emergency department with intense abdominal pain and was shamed by the doctor for wasting his time.</p>
<p>A few days later, Elizabeth was in even more pain and started projectile vomiting - she returned to the hospital and they found what they missed the first time: Elizabeth’s bowel had ruptured and the infection had spilled out of her colon and she was in life-threatening sepsis.</p>
<p>Then Elizabeth’s health care got much worse. </p>
<p>The doctor gave Elizabeth 2 options: simple minimally invasive laparoscopic surgery to drain the infection filled abscesses and let the bowel heal, or invasive surgery. Elizabeth asked for the simple procedure to drain the abscesses.</p>
<p>When she woke from surgery the intense pain felt like she had been cut in half - she begged the hospital staff to kill her to escape the pain.</p>
<p>Then she found out they had removed 10 inches of her bowel and left her with an ostomy bag.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Growing up with a parent with PTSD</p>

0:05:50


Elizabeth's father was in the military, so they moved every few years - normal for her, but didn't know same people all her life - father was Military Police and Korean War veteran with PTSD (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posttraumatic_stress_disorder'>post traumatic stress disorder</a>) - he had rages, inability to handle stress - fairly high up in military and investigated military suicide - he was hospitalized for a couple of weeks during the Korean War for '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_shock'>shell shock</a>' - lived on the sharp edge of his emotions


0:08:00


Be wary, be quiet - very quiet family, kids well behaved - {sound of ambulance siren in background} - Elizabeth says she is triggered by the ambulance siren that goes by several times a day - she's had PTSD since she was 16 - PTSD had gotten some better, but worse in the last 5 years since the medical error


0:09:45


Family moved to Ottawa when Elizabeth was 15 for a year before her father retired and they moved to Nova Scotia - Elizabeth went to university in New Brunswick when she was 20 - her Mom got sick and during Elizabeth's 2nd year, her mother was diagnosed with bowel cancer - both her parents would die of bowel cancer - mother battled for 4 years and 4 surgeries


0:11:00


Elizabeth graduated university and came home to work and care for her mother - Elizabeth worked as a reporter for a small town newspaper for 3 years, then a photo tech but kept connected to the newspaper - went back to school a couple of times, in 2011 to community college to take Information Technology - had been working with intellectually challenges adults and had a bad back with no chance of advancement


0:13:00


2014 Elizabeth got sick - working as a caregiver for a man with MS (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_sclerosis'>multiple sclerosis</a>) - and working another job and not eating much for about 3 months - August 2014 Elizabeth's bowel stopped functioning - a few days later started to hurt badly - no past history of gastro intestinal problems - Elizabeth was just a few years older than when her Mom was diagnosed with bowel cancer


0:15:20


The pain so bad she went to an emergency room (ER) - Elizabeth does have high blood pressure and arthritis but had never been sick - told ER she had pain in lower left abdomen - doctor said she had good bowel sounds and told her to go home and eat something, that she was only constipated - Elizabeth was relieved hearing she was going to be okay
 
 
 
Shamed by emergency room doctor
 


0:17:00


Elizabeth didn't really believe him because she'd never had pain like this before - doctor didn't do any blood tests or xrays, just sent her home at 11pm and and told her ER was for emergencies - Elizabeth felt shamed, like she was abusing the system


0:19:30


Elizabeth went to work for 8am - at about 3:30am Wed Sept 10th, Elizabeth woke up incredible pain and projectile vomiting - Elizabeth knew something was wrong, but also knew she had a 15 hour shift ahead - she went to work but spent much of the day laying on her client's bathroom floor vomiting - while also trying to take care of disabled client - Elizabeth in incredible agony and could barely walk - got home at 11pm


0:20:45


Elizabeth spent the next few days on her couch, thinking she should go to the hospital, but had been shamed - she couldn't eat - Elizabeth's roommate came home Friday Sept 13th - she asked her roommate to take her to the ER - they took some blood tests and xray - results showed <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diverticulitis'>diverticulitis</a> - 'pockets' in the bowel where food / seeds can get trapped and cause infection and to be treated with antibiotics or can get <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepsis'>sepsis</a> and die


0:23:30


Elizabeth's white blood cell count was 28.02 and normal is 9 - but xray didn't show anything, and no surgery was mentioned - Elizabeth was given <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatrizoate'>gastrograffin</a> drink and told to come back in the morning for another drink of gastrograffin to prepare for a <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CT_scan'>CAT scan</a>


0:24:40


Resident physician took Elizabeth to small private room - he said CAT scan shows 4 holes in her intestine - he said can do 1 of 2 things: drain the abscesses and allow the bowel to heal on its own, or #2 is surgery, but he didn't say what kind - Elizabeth said 'the first option'


0:26:00


The abscesses were spilling infection outside her colon - they didn't say, but Elizabeth figured she had <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peritonitis'>peritonitis</a> because she had been walking around for 4 days with a ruptured bowel - Elizabeth was scared and thought about leaving the hospital - Elizabeth knew of a woman who had died of peritonitis induced heart attack within 12 hours of her bowel rupturing during a colonoscopy


0:28:00


Resident physician returns and says they will have to do surgery and need her to sign a form without further explanation - Elizabeth figured it was to drain the abscesses - and be done by simple <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laparoscopy'>laparoscopic</a> surgery - Elizabeth could barely see because of pain - but could not see the form to read it, so she signed it
 
 
 
Begging to die
 


0:30:00


Nurse prepped Elizabeth and asked her some questions, including if she was wearing contacts lenses - they hooked Elizabeth up to an IV and gave her some pain killers and she waited 5 - 6 hours


0:32:00


They prepped Elizabeth for the surgery - asked if she had problems with blood products or allergies and confirmed she was at the hospital a year earlier for <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaphylaxis'>anaphylaxis</a> - they asked if she was allergic to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinapril'>quinapril</a> - anaethesiologist checked her throat and neck flexibility - but no one during all those hours asked Elizabeth if she understood what procedure she was about to undergo


0:33:45


Surgeon spoke to Elizabeth, shook her hand, a very nice man - Elizabeth felt calm, in good hands, and safe - the next things Elizabeth remembers is waking up feeling like she was cut in two - screaming, couldn't catch her breath, and tried to sit up - she couldn't see but could hear the anesthesiologist say 'No Elizabeth' - then people were holding her down, laying on top of her


0:35:15


"I felt like I had been cut in half horizontally" - Elizabeth remembers thinking it was like something out of a <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_King'>Stephen King</a> novel - like a monster with claws cut her into twos - the next thing she remembers is screaming and crying and begging to die - 'please someone kill me, please let me die' - more pain than her ruptured bowel


0:36:50


Elizabeth knew something had gone horribly wrong - she was sweating from the pain - the nurse told Elizabeth that she had lost her <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmoid_colon'>sigmoid colon</a> and now had an <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoma_(medicine)'>ostomy</a> - a bag that is connected to accept waste from her colon


0:38:00


Elizabeth know also had an art line in her chest to put medications directly into her system - the nurse asked if Elizabeth was still feeling suicidal, that she must have had a reaction to the anaesthesia - but Elizabeth was still in a huge amount of pain and wanted death to escape it - her pain was not being managed


0:40:00


The nurse told Elizabeth she was emotionally overwrought when first brought into the recover room and asked if Elizabeth wanted to see a psychiatrist - Elizabeth's sight is worse because her dirty contacts are still in her eyes - Elizabeth also develops sepsis, she was already septic before the surgery - her white blood count was 25, which is very septic, but had been at 28 the night before


0:42:00


The notes from the CT scan did not mention a ruptured bowel - but the forensic report said she had one hole in her bowel - it could've been repaired with colonoscopy - but Elizabeth lost 10 inches of bowel - she was very septic and they pumped her full of antibiotics - her white blood cell count shot up to 36, 'critical'
 

 
Sepsis
 


0:43:30


Elizabeth so pumped full of fluids to flush out sepsis she couldn't bend her legs - but nobody told Elizabeth she was septic - a couple of young surgeons told Elizabeth that surgery went well - Elizabeth said she didn't believe in surgery and the doctor laughed at her and asked if that was a religious thing - they apparently did not know Elizabeth had surgery she did not expect


0:45:00


Only when Elizabeth got her medical records did she find out that her insestines had been glued to her <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peritoneum'>peritoneum</a> and had to be cut or burned off, a result of bowels bursting - Elizabeth does not have a spleen that was removed without her permission after a car accident, and that started her PTSD


0:46:30


Her instestines we glued to her liver, and pushing on her bladder, which was partially collapsed - it was bad and they had to do a lot of work - Elizabeth was in hospital for 11 days with infections needing IV antibiotics - the surgeon finally comes to see her and says they'll send her home next day - Elizabeth is happy but still in horrible pain


0:48:00


The next morning a different physician says that Elizabeth's white blood count is 11, and normal is 9, so they are iffy about sending her home - but they did with antibiotics and a bottle of morphine - Elizabeth spent 4 days at home in horrible pain and getting sicker and sicker - used all the morphine if first couple of days - and had to move to another apartment


0:49:45


Elizabeth calls a help line to speak with a nurse and tells her about vomiting and other symptoms - the nurse told Elizabeth to go back to the ER and was readmitted with a small bowel obstruction and the abscesses had grown, multiple infections, colitis and other things - kept Elizabeth for 2 weeks with IV antiobitics and pain killers


0:50:50


Elizabeth's health worsened because they had moved her from IV antibiotics to antibiotic pills - Elizabeth was released when the infection was under control again, 2 weeks later


0:52:00


Elizabeth was in shock for the first 3 months - she could have a conversation but couldn't think right - dissociative - couldn't believe this was happening to her, or had not been offered psychiatric help because she told them she was suicidal - when she told people she had surgery she didn't want, they dismissed her


0:53:00


Elizabeth had no depression before surgery, but sense of violation, like she'd been raped, caused suicidal feelings - those feelings not so strong now, but for 4 years Elizabeth woke up every day thinking "I want to die" - sometimes wake up in the middle of the night screaming - the trauma constantly replayed in her head - PTSD was overwhelming
 
 
 
 
Tomophobia
 


0:55:00


Elizabeth may have appeared 'normal' to others, but she wasn't laughing like she did before - complelely unfocused, like in a dream - Elizabeth sees her GP a few months later and says to the GP "Look what they did to me" tells the GP she just wants to die, so the GP puts Elizabeth on antidepressants to try to keep her alive


0:56:15


Elizabeth has "<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_medical_procedures'>tomophobia</a>", a fear of invasive events that can be traced back to an unwanted <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splenectomy'>splenectomy</a> after a car accident when she was 16 years old, and had tried to escape the hospital then - Elizabeth had been asymptomatic for PTSD since 2009, but was re-triggered by the bowel removal surgery


0:58:30


In the late 70s, Elizabeth thought the concussion from the car accident was causing her anger and rage until she read about 'shell shock' symptoms of Vietnam War vets and thought their symptoms were like hers - but she didn't receive any support


0:59:30


25 years later and another traumatic event caused PTSD and therapy helped some - venting, talking and writing about it always helped - being able to take control also helps a lot - this last trauma has not been so bad because she's been able to talk about it and file a complaint to the Nova Scotia College of Physicians, but they didn't believe her and dismissed her complaint


1:00:30


Elizabeth didn't want any one to get into trouble, she justed wanted to know how and why it happened to her - the surgeon was not very honest, his report said he was surprised Elizabeth was claiming she wasn't properly informed, then descended into an ad hominen attack on Elizabeth's character and made her sound ridiculous and like a crazy person


1:02:00


Surgeon also wrote that Elizabeth had been diagnosed with a sexually transmitted disease, <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyspareunia'>dyspareunia</a> - this shocked Elizabeth, almost as much as waking up with an ostomy bag - but Elizabeth had blood tests that showed no infection - Elizabeth knew this was the surgeon trying to discredit her - Elizabeth asked the College of Physicians to ask for the notes the surgeon claims show an STD, but they didn't - more institutional betrayal


1:04:00


Elizabeth's GP received a copy of the surgeon's report - but there was nothing about informed consent - the GP tried to defend the surgeon - but Elizabeth pointed out they had 5 hours and no body talked to her about what procedure she was going to have


1:06:00


Elizabeth thinks they are good people, but too routine and easy to forget if no check list in place - this unwanted surgery is the most horrid inhumane thing any one has ever done to Elizabeth - but she feels conflicted: on the one hand, they were working to save her, and on the other hand, she didn't want bowel surgery


1:07:45


This should have been a '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_events'>never event</a>' - it never should have happened - but writing letters and complaints has helped - Elizabeth likens it to Restorative Justice where the victim gets to tell the perpetrator how the crime has affected them
 

 
Making meaning (and cookies)


1:09:45


Having the College of Physicians dismiss Elizabeth's complaint and believe the surgeon's lies, makes her PTSD worse - Elizabeth just wanted him to accept responsbility - Elizabeth's brother is a lawyer and said suing is useless, only 2% find in favor of the victim - Elizabeth just wants people to learn from it so others don't have the same experience


1:11:15


Elizabeth is writing a mental wellness cook book using a lot of her Mom's old recipes - Elizabeth is also a graphic designer and will design the book and include information about mental wellness - people have been able to accomplish a lot in spite of mental illness - Madame Currie had depression, Veronica Lake had schizophrenia


1:13:00


A lot of the cook book is about depression and PTSD, but includes facts and figures, like countries where the suicide rate has decreased - her book is titled Mental Health Cook Book, she's illustrating it herself and is half way done - but it has helped distract her from PTSD


1:14:00


Elizabeth makes dinner each day for an intellectually challenged friend, and this adds more meaning and reason to live - Elizabeth has believed in the righ to die since she was 15 and her mother was dying from cancer - but also believes in the right to life, so both sides of the right to die debate


1:16:45


Elizabeth does not want to point fingers at specific doctors, she beleives they meant well - but what happened to her can happen to any one - sometimes PTSD can be so bad you'd rather die


1:18:00


Elizabeth is still healing physically, some lessened pain, and her bowel is working a bit better - emotionally quite a bit better, but she still has PTSD and will last a long time - Elizabeth tries to find the positives in things


1:19:15


Sometimes anesthesia can mess up a person's brain - Elizabeth was not depressed before the bowel surgery - but her PTSD has always been treatment resistant - but some people do respond to trauma therapy - Elizabeth finds writing it down both difficult and therapeutic


1:21:25


From Elizabeth's experience, anger - even justifiable anger - is darker and more malignant than any cancer - doesn't do any thing to person you're angry at, it destroys you - Elizabeth suggests video recording the informed consent - there was a doctor who lost her license for performing multiple surgeries and taking out body parts without getting consent - she had 27 patients with adverse outcomes


1:22:45


You can only make decisions based on what you are told - a doctor is only as good as the information that passes back and forth with the patient - and recording the informed consent is safety for the hospital and the patient
 
Connect with Elizabeth
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<p>A few days later, Elizabeth was in even more pain and started projectile vomiting - she returned to the hospital and they found what they missed the first time: Elizabeth’s bowel had ruptured and the infection had spilled out of her colon and she was in life-threatening sepsis.</p>
<p>Then Elizabeth’s health care got much worse. </p>
<p>The doctor gave Elizabeth 2 options: simple minimally invasive laparoscopic surgery to drain the infection filled abscesses and let the bowel heal, or invasive surgery. Elizabeth asked for the simple procedure to drain the abscesses.</p>
<p>When she woke from surgery the intense pain felt like she had been cut in half - she begged the hospital staff to kill her to escape the pain.</p>
<p>Then she found out they had removed 10 inches of her bowel and left her with an ostomy bag.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Growing up with a parent with PTSD</p>

0:05:50


Elizabeth's father was in the military, so they moved every few years - normal for her, but didn't know same people all her life - father was Military Police and Korean War veteran with PTSD (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posttraumatic_stress_disorder'>post traumatic stress disorder</a>) - he had rages, inability to handle stress - fairly high up in military and investigated military suicide - he was hospitalized for a couple of weeks during the Korean War for '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_shock'>shell shock</a>' - lived on the sharp edge of his emotions


0:08:00


Be wary, be quiet - very quiet family, kids well behaved - {sound of ambulance siren in background} - Elizabeth says she is triggered by the ambulance siren that goes by several times a day - she's had PTSD since she was 16 - PTSD had gotten some better, but worse in the last 5 years since the medical error


0:09:45


Family moved to Ottawa when Elizabeth was 15 for a year before her father retired and they moved to Nova Scotia - Elizabeth went to university in New Brunswick when she was 20 - her Mom got sick and during Elizabeth's 2nd year, her mother was diagnosed with bowel cancer - both her parents would die of bowel cancer - mother battled for 4 years and 4 surgeries


0:11:00


Elizabeth graduated university and came home to work and care for her mother - Elizabeth worked as a reporter for a small town newspaper for 3 years, then a photo tech but kept connected to the newspaper - went back to school a couple of times, in 2011 to community college to take Information Technology - had been working with intellectually challenges adults and had a bad back with no chance of advancement


0:13:00


2014 Elizabeth got sick - working as a caregiver for a man with MS (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_sclerosis'>multiple sclerosis</a>) - and working another job and not eating much for about 3 months - August 2014 Elizabeth's bowel stopped functioning - a few days later started to hurt badly - no past history of gastro intestinal problems - Elizabeth was just a few years older than when her Mom was diagnosed with bowel cancer


0:15:20


The pain so bad she went to an emergency room (ER) - Elizabeth does have high blood pressure and arthritis but had never been sick - told ER she had pain in lower left abdomen - doctor said she had good bowel sounds and told her to go home and eat something, that she was only constipated - Elizabeth was relieved hearing she was going to be okay
 
 
 
Shamed by emergency room doctor
 


0:17:00


Elizabeth didn't really believe him because she'd never had pain like this before - doctor didn't do any blood tests or xrays, just sent her home at 11pm and and told her ER was for emergencies - Elizabeth felt shamed, like she was abusing the system


0:19:30


Elizabeth went to work for 8am - at about 3:30am Wed Sept 10th, Elizabeth woke up incredible pain and projectile vomiting - Elizabeth knew something was wrong, but also knew she had a 15 hour shift ahead - she went to work but spent much of the day laying on her client's bathroom floor vomiting - while also trying to take care of disabled client - Elizabeth in incredible agony and could barely walk - got home at 11pm


0:20:45


Elizabeth spent the next few days on her couch, thinking she should go to the hospital, but had been shamed - she couldn't eat - Elizabeth's roommate came home Friday Sept 13th - she asked her roommate to take her to the ER - they took some blood tests and xray - results showed <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diverticulitis'>diverticulitis</a> - 'pockets' in the bowel where food / seeds can get trapped and cause infection and to be treated with antibiotics or can get <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepsis'>sepsis</a> and die


0:23:30


Elizabeth's white blood cell count was 28.02 and normal is 9 - but xray didn't show anything, and no surgery was mentioned - Elizabeth was given <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatrizoate'>gastrograffin</a> drink and told to come back in the morning for another drink of gastrograffin to prepare for a <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CT_scan'>CAT scan</a>


0:24:40


Resident physician took Elizabeth to small private room - he said CAT scan shows 4 holes in her intestine - he said can do 1 of 2 things: drain the abscesses and allow the bowel to heal on its own, or #2 is surgery, but he didn't say what kind - Elizabeth said 'the first option'


0:26:00


The abscesses were spilling infection outside her colon - they didn't say, but Elizabeth figured she had <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peritonitis'>peritonitis</a> because she had been walking around for 4 days with a ruptured bowel - Elizabeth was scared and thought about leaving the hospital - Elizabeth knew of a woman who had died of peritonitis induced heart attack within 12 hours of her bowel rupturing during a colonoscopy


0:28:00


Resident physician returns and says they will have to do surgery and need her to sign a form without further explanation - Elizabeth figured it was to drain the abscesses - and be done by simple <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laparoscopy'>laparoscopic</a> surgery - Elizabeth could barely see because of pain - but could not see the form to read it, so she signed it
 
 
 
Begging to die
 


0:30:00


Nurse prepped Elizabeth and asked her some questions, including if she was wearing contacts lenses - they hooked Elizabeth up to an IV and gave her some pain killers and she waited 5 - 6 hours


0:32:00


They prepped Elizabeth for the surgery - asked if she had problems with blood products or allergies and confirmed she was at the hospital a year earlier for <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaphylaxis'>anaphylaxis</a> - they asked if she was allergic to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinapril'>quinapril</a> - anaethesiologist checked her throat and neck flexibility - but no one during all those hours asked Elizabeth if she understood what procedure she was about to undergo


0:33:45


Surgeon spoke to Elizabeth, shook her hand, a very nice man - Elizabeth felt calm, in good hands, and safe - the next things Elizabeth remembers is waking up feeling like she was cut in two - screaming, couldn't catch her breath, and tried to sit up - she couldn't see but could hear the anesthesiologist say 'No Elizabeth' - then people were holding her down, laying on top of her


0:35:15


"I felt like I had been cut in half horizontally" - Elizabeth remembers thinking it was like something out of a <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_King'>Stephen King</a> novel - like a monster with claws cut her into twos - the next thing she remembers is screaming and crying and begging to die - 'please someone kill me, please let me die' - more pain than her ruptured bowel


0:36:50


Elizabeth knew something had gone horribly wrong - she was sweating from the pain - the nurse told Elizabeth that she had lost her <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmoid_colon'>sigmoid colon</a> and now had an <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoma_(medicine)'>ostomy</a> - a bag that is connected to accept waste from her colon


0:38:00


Elizabeth know also had an art line in her chest to put medications directly into her system - the nurse asked if Elizabeth was still feeling suicidal, that she must have had a reaction to the anaesthesia - but Elizabeth was still in a huge amount of pain and wanted death to escape it - her pain was not being managed


0:40:00


The nurse told Elizabeth she was emotionally overwrought when first brought into the recover room and asked if Elizabeth wanted to see a psychiatrist - Elizabeth's sight is worse because her dirty contacts are still in her eyes - Elizabeth also develops sepsis, she was already septic before the surgery - her white blood count was 25, which is very septic, but had been at 28 the night before


0:42:00


The notes from the CT scan did not mention a ruptured bowel - but the forensic report said she had one hole in her bowel - it could've been repaired with colonoscopy - but Elizabeth lost 10 inches of bowel - she was very septic and they pumped her full of antibiotics - her white blood cell count shot up to 36, 'critical'
 

 
Sepsis
 


0:43:30


Elizabeth so pumped full of fluids to flush out sepsis she couldn't bend her legs - but nobody told Elizabeth she was septic - a couple of young surgeons told Elizabeth that surgery went well - Elizabeth said she didn't believe in surgery and the doctor laughed at her and asked if that was a religious thing - they apparently did not know Elizabeth had surgery she did not expect


0:45:00


Only when Elizabeth got her medical records did she find out that her insestines had been glued to her <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peritoneum'>peritoneum</a> and had to be cut or burned off, a result of bowels bursting - Elizabeth does not have a spleen that was removed without her permission after a car accident, and that started her PTSD


0:46:30


Her instestines we glued to her liver, and pushing on her bladder, which was partially collapsed - it was bad and they had to do a lot of work - Elizabeth was in hospital for 11 days with infections needing IV antibiotics - the surgeon finally comes to see her and says they'll send her home next day - Elizabeth is happy but still in horrible pain


0:48:00


The next morning a different physician says that Elizabeth's white blood count is 11, and normal is 9, so they are iffy about sending her home - but they did with antibiotics and a bottle of morphine - Elizabeth spent 4 days at home in horrible pain and getting sicker and sicker - used all the morphine if first couple of days - and had to move to another apartment


0:49:45


Elizabeth calls a help line to speak with a nurse and tells her about vomiting and other symptoms - the nurse told Elizabeth to go back to the ER and was readmitted with a small bowel obstruction and the abscesses had grown, multiple infections, colitis and other things - kept Elizabeth for 2 weeks with IV antiobitics and pain killers


0:50:50


Elizabeth's health worsened because they had moved her from IV antibiotics to antibiotic pills - Elizabeth was released when the infection was under control again, 2 weeks later


0:52:00


Elizabeth was in shock for the first 3 months - she could have a conversation but couldn't think right - dissociative - couldn't believe this was happening to her, or had not been offered psychiatric help because she told them she was suicidal - when she told people she had surgery she didn't want, they dismissed her


0:53:00


Elizabeth had no depression before surgery, but sense of violation, like she'd been raped, caused suicidal feelings - those feelings not so strong now, but for 4 years Elizabeth woke up every day thinking "I want to die" - sometimes wake up in the middle of the night screaming - the trauma constantly replayed in her head - PTSD was overwhelming
 
 
 
 
Tomophobia
 


0:55:00


Elizabeth may have appeared 'normal' to others, but she wasn't laughing like she did before - complelely unfocused, like in a dream - Elizabeth sees her GP a few months later and says to the GP "Look what they did to me" tells the GP she just wants to die, so the GP puts Elizabeth on antidepressants to try to keep her alive


0:56:15


Elizabeth has "<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_medical_procedures'>tomophobia</a>", a fear of invasive events that can be traced back to an unwanted <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splenectomy'>splenectomy</a> after a car accident when she was 16 years old, and had tried to escape the hospital then - Elizabeth had been asymptomatic for PTSD since 2009, but was re-triggered by the bowel removal surgery


0:58:30


In the late 70s, Elizabeth thought the concussion from the car accident was causing her anger and rage until she read about 'shell shock' symptoms of Vietnam War vets and thought their symptoms were like hers - but she didn't receive any support


0:59:30


25 years later and another traumatic event caused PTSD and therapy helped some - venting, talking and writing about it always helped - being able to take control also helps a lot - this last trauma has not been so bad because she's been able to talk about it and file a complaint to the Nova Scotia College of Physicians, but they didn't believe her and dismissed her complaint


1:00:30


Elizabeth didn't want any one to get into trouble, she justed wanted to know how and why it happened to her - the surgeon was not very honest, his report said he was surprised Elizabeth was claiming she wasn't properly informed, then descended into an ad hominen attack on Elizabeth's character and made her sound ridiculous and like a crazy person


1:02:00


Surgeon also wrote that Elizabeth had been diagnosed with a sexually transmitted disease, <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyspareunia'>dyspareunia</a> - this shocked Elizabeth, almost as much as waking up with an ostomy bag - but Elizabeth had blood tests that showed no infection - Elizabeth knew this was the surgeon trying to discredit her - Elizabeth asked the College of Physicians to ask for the notes the surgeon claims show an STD, but they didn't - more institutional betrayal


1:04:00


Elizabeth's GP received a copy of the surgeon's report - but there was nothing about informed consent - the GP tried to defend the surgeon - but Elizabeth pointed out they had 5 hours and no body talked to her about what procedure she was going to have


1:06:00


Elizabeth thinks they are good people, but too routine and easy to forget if no check list in place - this unwanted surgery is the most horrid inhumane thing any one has ever done to Elizabeth - but she feels conflicted: on the one hand, they were working to save her, and on the other hand, she didn't want bowel surgery


1:07:45


This should have been a '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_events'>never event</a>' - it never should have happened - but writing letters and complaints has helped - Elizabeth likens it to Restorative Justice where the victim gets to tell the perpetrator how the crime has affected them
 

 
Making meaning (and cookies)


1:09:45


Having the College of Physicians dismiss Elizabeth's complaint and believe the surgeon's lies, makes her PTSD worse - Elizabeth just wanted him to accept responsbility - Elizabeth's brother is a lawyer and said suing is useless, only 2% find in favor of the victim - Elizabeth just wants people to learn from it so others don't have the same experience


1:11:15


Elizabeth is writing a mental wellness cook book using a lot of her Mom's old recipes - Elizabeth is also a graphic designer and will design the book and include information about mental wellness - people have been able to accomplish a lot in spite of mental illness - Madame Currie had depression, Veronica Lake had schizophrenia


1:13:00


A lot of the cook book is about depression and PTSD, but includes facts and figures, like countries where the suicide rate has decreased - her book is titled Mental Health Cook Book, she's illustrating it herself and is half way done - but it has helped distract her from PTSD


1:14:00


Elizabeth makes dinner each day for an intellectually challenged friend, and this adds more meaning and reason to live - Elizabeth has believed in the righ to die since she was 15 and her mother was dying from cancer - but also believes in the right to life, so both sides of the right to die debate


1:16:45


Elizabeth does not want to point fingers at specific doctors, she beleives they meant well - but what happened to her can happen to any one - sometimes PTSD can be so bad you'd rather die


1:18:00


Elizabeth is still healing physically, some lessened pain, and her bowel is working a bit better - emotionally quite a bit better, but she still has PTSD and will last a long time - Elizabeth tries to find the positives in things


1:19:15


Sometimes anesthesia can mess up a person's brain - Elizabeth was not depressed before the bowel surgery - but her PTSD has always been treatment resistant - but some people do respond to trauma therapy - Elizabeth finds writing it down both difficult and therapeutic


1:21:25


From Elizabeth's experience, anger - even justifiable anger - is darker and more malignant than any cancer - doesn't do any thing to person you're angry at, it destroys you - Elizabeth suggests video recording the informed consent - there was a doctor who lost her license for performing multiple surgeries and taking out body parts without getting consent - she had 27 patients with adverse outcomes


1:22:45


You can only make decisions based on what you are told - a doctor is only as good as the information that passes back and forth with the patient - and recording the informed consent is safety for the hospital and the patient
 
Connect with Elizabeth
Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/Elisabeast'>Elizabeth Hopkins</a>
_____________________________________
 
Need an experienced counsellor for medical error, or living with a chronic illness, or LGBT issues?
 
You can book an online video counseling appointment with me, Scott Simpson, at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a>.
 
  
 
 











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A few days later, Elizabeth was in even more pain and started projectile vomiting - she returned to the hospital and they found what they missed the first time: Elizabeth’s bowel had ruptured and the infection had spilled out of her colon and she was in life-threatening sepsis.
Then Elizabeth’s health care got much worse. 
The doctor gave Elizabeth 2 options: simple minimally invasive laparoscopic surgery to drain the infection filled abscesses and let the bowel heal, or invasive surgery. Elizabeth asked for the simple procedure to drain the abscesses.
When she woke from surgery the intense pain felt like she had been cut in half - she begged the hospital staff to kill her to escape the pain.
Then she found out they had removed 10 inches of her bowel and left her with an ostomy bag.
SHOW NOTES
Growing up with a parent with PTSD

0:05:50


Elizabeth's father was in the military, so they moved every few years - normal for her, but didn't know same people all her life - father was Military Police and Korean War veteran with PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) - he had rages, inability to handle stress - fairly high up in military and investigated military suicide - he was hospitalized for a couple of weeks during the Korean War for 'shell shock' - lived on the sharp edge of his emotions


0:08:00


Be wary, be quiet - very quiet family, kids well behaved - {sound of ambulance siren in background} - Elizabeth says she is triggered by the ambulance siren that goes by several times a day - she's had PTSD since she was 16 - PTSD had gotten some better, but worse in the last 5 years since the medical error


0:09:45


Family moved to Ottawa when Elizabeth was 15 for a year before her father retired and they moved to Nova Scotia - Elizabeth went to university in New Brunswick when she was 20 - her Mom got sick and during Elizabeth's 2nd year, her mother was diagnosed with bowel cancer - both her parents would die of bowel cancer - mother battled for 4 years and 4 surgeries


0:11:00


Elizabeth graduated university and came home to work and care for her mother - Elizabeth worked as a reporter for a small town newspaper for 3 years, then a photo tech but kept connected to the newspaper - went back to school a couple of times, in 2011 to community college to take Information Technology - had been working with intellectually challenges adults and had a bad back with no chance of advancement


0:13:00


2014 Elizabeth got sick - working as a caregiver for a man with MS (multiple sclerosis) - and working another job and not eating much for about 3 months - August 2014 Elizabeth's bowel stopped functioning - a few days later started to hurt badly - no past history of gastro intestinal problems - Elizabeth was just a few years older than when her Mom was diagnosed with bowel cancer


0:15:20


The pain so bad she went to an emergency room (ER) - Elizabeth does have high blood pressure and arthritis but had never been sick - told ER she had pain in lower left abdomen - doctor said she had good bowel sounds and told her to go home and eat something, that she was only constipated - Elizabeth was relieved hearing she was going to be okay
 
 
 
Shamed by emergency room doctor
 


0:17:00


Elizabeth didn't really believe him because she'd never had pain like this before - doctor didn't do any blood tests or xrays, just sent her home at 11pm and and told her ER was for emergencies - Elizabeth felt shamed, like she was abusing the system


0:19:30


Elizabeth went to work for 8am - at about 3:30am Wed Sept 10th, Elizabeth woke up incredible pain and projectile vomiting - Elizabeth knew something was wrong, but also knew she had a 15 hour shift ahead - she went to work but spent much of the day laying on her client's bathroom floor vomiting - while also trying to take care of disabled client - Elizabeth in i]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>Andrea Vedeler: The Norwegian Dilemma: Let ‘rehab’ make her even sicker for disability support, or have no income?</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>The Norwegian health care system makes some patients sicker - sometimes permanently.</p>
<p>Andrea is quite ill and very disabled - she is only well enough to leave her home about once a month.</p>
<p>But Andrea has a Hobson’s Choice: Live at a work place rehab institution for a month or live without income.</p>
<p>Medical error takes many forms. A misunderstanding of an illness has - and does - lead to medical harm and death. </p>
<p>In Norway, bureaucrats have created a system that essentially requires sick and disabled patients, in order to be eligible for long term disability, live for 4 weeks at a rehab designed to return them to work.</p>
<p>But for some sick and disabled patients - like Andrea - travel to the rehab and its environment and activities will make them even sicker. Sometimes permanently.</p>
<p>This leaves Andrea with a dilemma: get sicker - perhaps permanently - to get disability support to live, or remain less sick but live without income?</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
Idyllic Childhood, until...

04:50


Andrea grew up in a small town outside of <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjejZe0q6jkAhWwl-AKHdFhD9oQFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FOslo&usg=AOvVaw1_2XJeVC7nNICQkyxCj_fQ'>Oslo</a> (Norway) - small safe neighbourhood - born in 1987 - Andrea is a millenial and looking back it seemed almost absurdly idyllic - so a very nice childhood, not athletic but very active, hiking, swimming, biking, baseball - only child, parents are divorced, but very functional divorce and good environment


 
06:30


Andrea loved school, excellent student, loved reading, always 3 books at a time so there was no gap without a book - worse nightmare in childhood and adolescent, biggest horror she could imagine because she loooooved reading - great teachers, friends - read a lot at home


 
07:45


Mostly fiction, had read all of her mother's books in Norwegian by the time she was 10 or 11, so had to start reading Enlgish books - a lot of sci fi and fantasy, because they came in series with lots of pages - reading a big part of her life until she started getting ill


 
08:45


Didn't get diagnosed with <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>ME (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis)</a> until 2016, but in 2006 at age 19 years, Andrea got a series of infections over 2 months - had never been ill before, never missed a single day of school - after being sick, Andrea tried going to a spin class but couldn't even finish the warm up because lung capacity only 50%


 
09:50


Lung capacity slowly improved over the next year, but a lot of stomach problems and pain emerged - but it took 3 years to discover she had lactose intolerance, a rarity in Scandinavia, probably a result of antibiotics - inflammed easophagus, ulcer , developed asthma - went to study at university in another city, but there was always some health issue popping up, a virus, an infection


 
11:15


More tired and exhausted each semester, but still managing to study full time, work part time, volunteer, working out most of the time - loved the university life - but still had bouts of illness


 
12:20


Was working out 8 times a week, running, strength training - so periods of total functioning - but periods of time of illness and severity increased - really struggling by end of 2010, by early 2011 barely managed school course work - then went to Brazil to study for a year

<p></p>
<p>Better in Brazil</p>

13:20


With the warm climate, reduced work load, afternoons spent on the beach, and she felt really good - in 2012 returned to study in <a href='https://www.visitnorway.com/places-to-go/trondelag/trondheim/'>Trondheim</a> - was in the best shape of her life in autumn 2012 - doing her graduate studies, a lot of volunteering, and working - but only lasted about 12 months, in 2013 started struggling
 


14:35


Andrea realized she was making herself sicker by pushing through to do more and saying yes to more things - realized she had to slow down - but actually doing it is a lot harder


 
15:50


By starting something new she would get a boost in motivation, so had a lot on her plate, but it was a lot of fun and enjoyed responsibility and high quality work - but spinning plates and impossible to keep up


 
17:10


Andrea would usually crash at the beginning of summer vacation, and spend all summer recovering until the fall semester, but in 2013 she wasn't recovered, she was still exhausted


 
18:10


Andrea's 'crash' was like a burnout, lack of energy, lack of motivation, getting recurring infections - but the character of her crashes changed in Sept 2013


 
19:05


Andrea went for her usual mornig run, but only got about 500 metres - crawled home and that afternoon had her first migraine - it lasted 5 days and was her first ME-like crash - paralyzed for 5 days, the most pain, where nothing else existed but the pain - that was the start of what became ME


 
20:20


Extremely scary, frightening - never experienced her body compeletely shutting down - but during the migraine, the pain was so overwhelming, she couldn't think / experience emotions - when the migraine was over she felt totally fine and sort of forgot about it - so relieved to feel okay and focused on getting back to every day life until it happened again a month later


 
21:50


Went to her doctor, and Andrea agreed it was probably over working and stress - got a note for her studies and moved back to Oslo to work on her Thesis, and working and volunteering - but then collapsed - couldn't do anything due to physical and cognitive exhaustion
 


<p>Chiropractor Mayhem</p>

23:20


Andrea improved a lot over the next year - went back to finish her Thesis - even though could only work 25% of time - felt hopeful she was over the 'burnout' - because 25% functioning felt so good compared to before when non-functioning - telling herself everything will be fine, return to work and working out


 
24:50


But it wasn't fine - 3 weeks after returning to work she got sick again - went to her doctor to say that she is not recovering like before - he asked if she considered if she may have 'chronic fatigue syndrome' so they started to look into that - also had neck problems so went to a chiropractor and had a severe immunological reaction to that adjustment


 
25:50


Chiropractor warned Andrea she may have a reaction for a few days but it will pass - but Andrea got really sick for almost 2 months of flu like symptoms, painful and swollen and red back - lie in bed screaming from pain - as pain calmed, flu symptoms remained for 2 months


 
27:50


Chiropractor helped with pain, but flu like symptoms stuck and they recognized she had ME - in Norway, ME and CFS (<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome'>chronic fatigue syndrome</a>) are 2 different illnesses - in Norway, CFS is centered around fatigue without other symptoms - but ME patients fulfill the <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Consensus_Criteria'>Canadian Consensus Criteria</a>


 
29:35


Andrea, being a 'nerd', had already researched ME so was not surprised by the diagnosis - she had every symptom - but it was a relief to get official diagnosis - doctor said that most people get back to normal life in 5 - 7 years - and some people do improve and can return to part time work


 
31:05


Andrea had seen a psychologist when she thought she was 'burned out' and had been through that part of the Norwegian health care system, and the psychologists did not believe there was any thing wrong mentally - doctors don't know a lot about ME, but there is not a lot to know - Andrea was lucky that her doctors did not pass judgement and acknowledged she was sick and trying to get better


 
32:50


In Norway the guidelines for CFS and ME recommend patients attend a work related rehab facility - goal is to get patients back to work - also other patients, like from car accidents - it is a requirement to offer the rehab, but legally it cannot be demanded if the rehab causes harm
 

 
Health vs Rehab Centre


 
34:00


On paper, they can't make you go to rehab, but in reality it is not that simple - people who are disabled start on a temporary govt benefit - to get permanent disability benefits, you must check all the boxes from the guidelines - the Work and Pension Dept evaluate the applications


 
35:20


A case worker would submit the permanent disability application, but a different dept would then decide - and if the patient has not completed all the guideline boxes, they are denied benefits - the patient has the right to appeal, but it will take 6 - 12 months and the patient receives no benefits - so very sick people may run out of food, medications, shelter while waiting


 
37:50


It is also hard to gather all the documentation needed during the temporary disability period - Andrea's doctors say she is too ill to attend a rehab center - and that it would probably make her sicker, at least temporarily, but some people get worse permanently - the 3 hours to travel to it is too much for Anrdrea's health - Andrea thinks she would survive rehab, but it would make her sicker


 
39:35


Andrea explains that car travel is so draining for some ME patients: vibrations, sound, visual stimulation, sitting up - Andrea is healtier in the summer, so if she took lots of pain meds and could rest for a week after, then she could do a 2 hour drive - but it will make her very ill with <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Post-exertional_malaise'>post exertional malaise</a> and her doctor doesn't think rehab will help her


 
41:05


Andrea's dilemma: does she go to rehab and get sicker so she can get a report saying she is too sick to work and get long term disability, or does she not go to rehab and risk not having income for up to a year?


 
41:50


Fortunately Andrea has saved enough money to live on for a year, but others with ME are not so fortunate - so legally, sick patients can't be forced to go to rehab, but that is what they are doing


 
44:20


Andrea says the rehab may be helpful for mild ME patients or newly diagosed as it teaches about <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Pacing'>pacing</a> (your energy) - mild patients with small children like the chance to go to the rehab to recover from the energy requirements at home - but no one believes rehab will 'treat' ME

<p></p>
<p>Hobson's choice...is not choice</p>

45:30


Andrea says the dept of Work and Rehab needs info to make decisions, but they don't understand what they are asking


 
47:05


Andrea thinks it is a waste of money to send people to rehab for 4 weeks for evaluation - cheaper to have home visits


 
48:35


There are 6 or 7 rehabs in Norway that accept ME patients, but a lot of them are not recommended by the ME Association - but the system is only set up deal with all patients in one way


 
49:50


To deal with loss from being so ill, Andrea has adopted her Mother's motto: 'it does't help to be angry about it' - she hopes she's not sick forever, and she's adjusting and making the best of it - but also asks herself what does she want to do with her life given the situation


 
51:20


Andrea and her partner have bought a home - Andrea says she still has a future, not the one she planned or wanted, but there is a lot of good stuff in it - very fortunate, born in one of wealthiest and happiest countries with good welfare system - suppotive family except Grandmother who thinks a baby will fix things - great supportive friends


 
53:35


Even if there is no cure or treatment, Andrea's health is pretty stable - her functionality improves in the summer, but still mostly house bound - can leaved the house twice a week instead of once a month - Andrea has not given up hope she will improve - she hopes to have a family but not sure how they'll manage it


 
55:35


Andrea thinks the summer helps because it is sunny and warm and that improves circulation - she is hoping in a couple of years to try living in southern Europe for a few months and see how that affects her health - but all their family and friends are in Norway, so that's a consideration too


 
57:50


Our conversation will impact Andrea's energy and health - even though she rested up for the interview - she will not feel good tomorrow


 
59:20


Andrea thinks people who develop ME as slow onset have more time to get used to being sick than people who suddenly developed ME overnight, that would be harder to deal with
 
Connect with Andrea 
Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/Vedeler'>@Vedeler</a>
 

 
___________________________________
 
Are you dealing with medical error and need an experienced counsellor? Or living with a chronic illness? Or have LGBT issues or any of life's challenges, you can book an online video counseling appointment with me - Scott Simpson - at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a>
 
    


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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Norwegian health care system makes some patients sicker - sometimes permanently.</p>
<p>Andrea is quite ill and very disabled - she is only well enough to leave her home about once a month.</p>
<p>But Andrea has a Hobson’s Choice: Live at a work place rehab institution for a month or live without income.</p>
<p>Medical error takes many forms. A misunderstanding of an illness has - and does - lead to medical harm and death. </p>
<p>In Norway, bureaucrats have created a system that essentially requires sick and disabled patients, in order to be eligible for long term disability, live for 4 weeks at a rehab designed to return them to work.</p>
<p>But for some sick and disabled patients - like Andrea - travel to the rehab and its environment and activities will make them even sicker. Sometimes permanently.</p>
<p>This leaves Andrea with a dilemma: get sicker - perhaps permanently - to get disability support to live, or remain less sick but live without income?</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
Idyllic Childhood, until...

04:50


Andrea grew up in a small town outside of <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjejZe0q6jkAhWwl-AKHdFhD9oQFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FOslo&usg=AOvVaw1_2XJeVC7nNICQkyxCj_fQ'>Oslo</a> (Norway) - small safe neighbourhood - born in 1987 - Andrea is a millenial and looking back it seemed almost absurdly idyllic - so a very nice childhood, not athletic but very active, hiking, swimming, biking, baseball - only child, parents are divorced, but very functional divorce and good environment


 
06:30


Andrea loved school, excellent student, loved reading, always 3 books at a time so there was no gap without a book - worse nightmare in childhood and adolescent, biggest horror she could imagine because she loooooved reading - great teachers, friends - read a lot at home


 
07:45


Mostly fiction, had read all of her mother's books in Norwegian by the time she was 10 or 11, so had to start reading Enlgish books - a lot of sci fi and fantasy, because they came in series with lots of pages - reading a big part of her life until she started getting ill


 
08:45


Didn't get diagnosed with <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>ME (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis)</a> until 2016, but in 2006 at age 19 years, Andrea got a series of infections over 2 months - had never been ill before, never missed a single day of school - after being sick, Andrea tried going to a spin class but couldn't even finish the warm up because lung capacity only 50%


 
09:50


Lung capacity slowly improved over the next year, but a lot of stomach problems and pain emerged - but it took 3 years to discover she had lactose intolerance, a rarity in Scandinavia, probably a result of antibiotics - inflammed easophagus, ulcer , developed asthma - went to study at university in another city, but there was always some health issue popping up, a virus, an infection


 
11:15


More tired and exhausted each semester, but still managing to study full time, work part time, volunteer, working out most of the time - loved the university life - but still had bouts of illness


 
12:20


Was working out 8 times a week, running, strength training - so periods of total functioning - but periods of time of illness and severity increased - really struggling by end of 2010, by early 2011 barely managed school course work - then went to Brazil to study for a year

<p></p>
<p>Better in Brazil</p>

13:20


With the warm climate, reduced work load, afternoons spent on the beach, and she felt really good - in 2012 returned to study in <a href='https://www.visitnorway.com/places-to-go/trondelag/trondheim/'>Trondheim</a> - was in the best shape of her life in autumn 2012 - doing her graduate studies, a lot of volunteering, and working - but only lasted about 12 months, in 2013 started struggling
 


14:35


Andrea realized she was making herself sicker by pushing through to do more and saying yes to more things - realized she had to slow down - but actually doing it is a lot harder


 
15:50


By starting something new she would get a boost in motivation, so had a lot on her plate, but it was a lot of fun and enjoyed responsibility and high quality work - but spinning plates and impossible to keep up


 
17:10


Andrea would usually crash at the beginning of summer vacation, and spend all summer recovering until the fall semester, but in 2013 she wasn't recovered, she was still exhausted


 
18:10


Andrea's 'crash' was like a burnout, lack of energy, lack of motivation, getting recurring infections - but the character of her crashes changed in Sept 2013


 
19:05


Andrea went for her usual mornig run, but only got about 500 metres - crawled home and that afternoon had her first migraine - it lasted 5 days and was her first ME-like crash - paralyzed for 5 days, the most pain, where nothing else existed but the pain - that was the start of what became ME


 
20:20


Extremely scary, frightening - never experienced her body compeletely shutting down - but during the migraine, the pain was so overwhelming, she couldn't think / experience emotions - when the migraine was over she felt totally fine and sort of forgot about it - so relieved to feel okay and focused on getting back to every day life until it happened again a month later


 
21:50


Went to her doctor, and Andrea agreed it was probably over working and stress - got a note for her studies and moved back to Oslo to work on her Thesis, and working and volunteering - but then collapsed - couldn't do anything due to physical and cognitive exhaustion
 


<p>Chiropractor Mayhem</p>

23:20


Andrea improved a lot over the next year - went back to finish her Thesis - even though could only work 25% of time - felt hopeful she was over the 'burnout' - because 25% functioning felt so good compared to before when non-functioning - telling herself everything will be fine, return to work and working out


 
24:50


But it wasn't fine - 3 weeks after returning to work she got sick again - went to her doctor to say that she is not recovering like before - he asked if she considered if she may have 'chronic fatigue syndrome' so they started to look into that - also had neck problems so went to a chiropractor and had a severe immunological reaction to that adjustment


 
25:50


Chiropractor warned Andrea she may have a reaction for a few days but it will pass - but Andrea got really sick for almost 2 months of flu like symptoms, painful and swollen and red back - lie in bed screaming from pain - as pain calmed, flu symptoms remained for 2 months


 
27:50


Chiropractor helped with pain, but flu like symptoms stuck and they recognized she had ME - in Norway, ME and CFS (<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome'>chronic fatigue syndrome</a>) are 2 different illnesses - in Norway, CFS is centered around fatigue without other symptoms - but ME patients fulfill the <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Consensus_Criteria'>Canadian Consensus Criteria</a>


 
29:35


Andrea, being a 'nerd', had already researched ME so was not surprised by the diagnosis - she had every symptom - but it was a relief to get official diagnosis - doctor said that most people get back to normal life in 5 - 7 years - and some people do improve and can return to part time work


 
31:05


Andrea had seen a psychologist when she thought she was 'burned out' and had been through that part of the Norwegian health care system, and the psychologists did not believe there was any thing wrong mentally - doctors don't know a lot about ME, but there is not a lot to know - Andrea was lucky that her doctors did not pass judgement and acknowledged she was sick and trying to get better


 
32:50


In Norway the guidelines for CFS and ME recommend patients attend a work related rehab facility - goal is to get patients back to work - also other patients, like from car accidents - it is a requirement to offer the rehab, but legally it cannot be demanded if the rehab causes harm
 

 
Health vs Rehab Centre


 
34:00


On paper, they can't make you go to rehab, but in reality it is not that simple - people who are disabled start on a temporary govt benefit - to get permanent disability benefits, you must check all the boxes from the guidelines - the Work and Pension Dept evaluate the applications


 
35:20


A case worker would submit the permanent disability application, but a different dept would then decide - and if the patient has not completed all the guideline boxes, they are denied benefits - the patient has the right to appeal, but it will take 6 - 12 months and the patient receives no benefits - so very sick people may run out of food, medications, shelter while waiting


 
37:50


It is also hard to gather all the documentation needed during the temporary disability period - Andrea's doctors say she is too ill to attend a rehab center - and that it would probably make her sicker, at least temporarily, but some people get worse permanently - the 3 hours to travel to it is too much for Anrdrea's health - Andrea thinks she would survive rehab, but it would make her sicker


 
39:35


Andrea explains that car travel is so draining for some ME patients: vibrations, sound, visual stimulation, sitting up - Andrea is healtier in the summer, so if she took lots of pain meds and could rest for a week after, then she could do a 2 hour drive - but it will make her very ill with <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Post-exertional_malaise'>post exertional malaise</a> and her doctor doesn't think rehab will help her


 
41:05


Andrea's dilemma: does she go to rehab and get sicker so she can get a report saying she is too sick to work and get long term disability, or does she not go to rehab and risk not having income for up to a year?


 
41:50


Fortunately Andrea has saved enough money to live on for a year, but others with ME are not so fortunate - so legally, sick patients can't be forced to go to rehab, but that is what they are doing


 
44:20


Andrea says the rehab may be helpful for mild ME patients or newly diagosed as it teaches about <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Pacing'>pacing</a> (your energy) - mild patients with small children like the chance to go to the rehab to recover from the energy requirements at home - but no one believes rehab will 'treat' ME

<p></p>
<p>Hobson's choice...is not choice</p>

45:30


Andrea says the dept of Work and Rehab needs info to make decisions, but they don't understand what they are asking


 
47:05


Andrea thinks it is a waste of money to send people to rehab for 4 weeks for evaluation - cheaper to have home visits


 
48:35


There are 6 or 7 rehabs in Norway that accept ME patients, but a lot of them are not recommended by the ME Association - but the system is only set up deal with all patients in one way


 
49:50


To deal with loss from being so ill, Andrea has adopted her Mother's motto: 'it does't help to be angry about it' - she hopes she's not sick forever, and she's adjusting and making the best of it - but also asks herself what does she want to do with her life given the situation


 
51:20


Andrea and her partner have bought a home - Andrea says she still has a future, not the one she planned or wanted, but there is a lot of good stuff in it - very fortunate, born in one of wealthiest and happiest countries with good welfare system - suppotive family except Grandmother who thinks a baby will fix things - great supportive friends


 
53:35


Even if there is no cure or treatment, Andrea's health is pretty stable - her functionality improves in the summer, but still mostly house bound - can leaved the house twice a week instead of once a month - Andrea has not given up hope she will improve - she hopes to have a family but not sure how they'll manage it


 
55:35


Andrea thinks the summer helps because it is sunny and warm and that improves circulation - she is hoping in a couple of years to try living in southern Europe for a few months and see how that affects her health - but all their family and friends are in Norway, so that's a consideration too


 
57:50


Our conversation will impact Andrea's energy and health - even though she rested up for the interview - she will not feel good tomorrow


 
59:20


Andrea thinks people who develop ME as slow onset have more time to get used to being sick than people who suddenly developed ME overnight, that would be harder to deal with
 
Connect with Andrea 
Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/Vedeler'>@Vedeler</a>
 

 
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Are you dealing with medical error and need an experienced counsellor? Or living with a chronic illness? Or have LGBT issues or any of life's challenges, you can book an online video counseling appointment with me - Scott Simpson - at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a>
 
    


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Andrea is quite ill and very disabled - she is only well enough to leave her home about once a month.
But Andrea has a Hobson’s Choice: Live at a work place rehab institution for a month or live without income.
Medical error takes many forms. A misunderstanding of an illness has - and does - lead to medical harm and death. 
In Norway, bureaucrats have created a system that essentially requires sick and disabled patients, in order to be eligible for long term disability, live for 4 weeks at a rehab designed to return them to work.
But for some sick and disabled patients - like Andrea - travel to the rehab and its environment and activities will make them even sicker. Sometimes permanently.
This leaves Andrea with a dilemma: get sicker - perhaps permanently - to get disability support to live, or remain less sick but live without income?
SHOW NOTES
Idyllic Childhood, until...

04:50


Andrea grew up in a small town outside of Oslo (Norway) - small safe neighbourhood - born in 1987 - Andrea is a millenial and looking back it seemed almost absurdly idyllic - so a very nice childhood, not athletic but very active, hiking, swimming, biking, baseball - only child, parents are divorced, but very functional divorce and good environment


 
06:30


Andrea loved school, excellent student, loved reading, always 3 books at a time so there was no gap without a book - worse nightmare in childhood and adolescent, biggest horror she could imagine because she loooooved reading - great teachers, friends - read a lot at home


 
07:45


Mostly fiction, had read all of her mother's books in Norwegian by the time she was 10 or 11, so had to start reading Enlgish books - a lot of sci fi and fantasy, because they came in series with lots of pages - reading a big part of her life until she started getting ill


 
08:45


Didn't get diagnosed with ME (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis) until 2016, but in 2006 at age 19 years, Andrea got a series of infections over 2 months - had never been ill before, never missed a single day of school - after being sick, Andrea tried going to a spin class but couldn't even finish the warm up because lung capacity only 50%


 
09:50


Lung capacity slowly improved over the next year, but a lot of stomach problems and pain emerged - but it took 3 years to discover she had lactose intolerance, a rarity in Scandinavia, probably a result of antibiotics - inflammed easophagus, ulcer , developed asthma - went to study at university in another city, but there was always some health issue popping up, a virus, an infection


 
11:15


More tired and exhausted each semester, but still managing to study full time, work part time, volunteer, working out most of the time - loved the university life - but still had bouts of illness


 
12:20


Was working out 8 times a week, running, strength training - so periods of total functioning - but periods of time of illness and severity increased - really struggling by end of 2010, by early 2011 barely managed school course work - then went to Brazil to study for a year


Better in Brazil

13:20


With the warm climate, reduced work load, afternoons spent on the beach, and she felt really good - in 2012 returned to study in Trondheim - was in the best shape of her life in autumn 2012 - doing her graduate studies, a lot of volunteering, and working - but only lasted about 12 months, in 2013 started struggling
 


14:35


Andrea realized she was making herself sicker by pushing through to do more and saying yes to more things - realized she had to slow down - but actually doing it is a lot harder


 
15:50


By starting something new she would get a boost in motivation, so had a lot on her plate, but it was a lot of fun and enjoyed responsibility and high quality work - but spinning plates and impossible to keep up


 
17:10


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Author and environmental advocate <a href='https://chemical-edge.com/'>Varda Burstyn</a> is living with Multiple Chemical Sensitivity (MCS) - an illness mostly ignored - or outright denied - in the health care system. Patients experiencing MCS symptoms are usually labeled psychosomatic or malingerers or worse. </p>
<p>MCS is another example of a wide spread diagnostic mistake causing institutionalized medical harm by denying patients appropriate testing and access to treatment.</p>
<p>Varda’s family has numerous - and catastrophic - examples of medical error - including her mother and brother, requiring Varda to take on caretaker roles. In spite of this - or maybe because of it - Varda has become a force of nature in the environmental movement.</p>
<p>Over the years Varda’s <a href='http://vardaburstyn.com/'>extensive and award winning body of work</a> has tackled hard issues in politics, popular culture, science, technology, health and the environment, in every medium, for popular audiences and in scholarly venues, and her fiction has been translated into French, German and Korean.</p>
<p>As you will hear Varda attest, the medical system is a power system, and in some jurisdictions, it is a monopoly of power by the medical system colluding with Big Pharma over the communities’ health. Your health.</p>
<p>In sharing her own health care experiences, Varda unpacks the layers of historical and current influences and dynamics that construct our health systems.  </p>
<p>She notes that was once medical error was just simple ignorance - but it is now willful ignorance - and it is repeated over and over again - and that is criminal.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Multiple Medical Errors in Varda's Family</p>

0:06:00


Varda, from her teens to her mid-40s, had heavy care duties for her ill mother who had <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepsis'>septicemia</a> (sepsis) complications and developed MCS - Varda got married, moved away, but in her early 50s crashed with severe MCS (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_chemical_sensitivity'>Multiple Chemical Sensitivity</a>) - 4 years ago Varda's youngest brother, 13 years younger than Varda, had a massive breakdown - Varda thinks he has a triple or quadruple diagnosis - he has brain injuries - Varda also has 2 brain injuries and 3 quite bad spinal injuries


0:07:30


A lot of correlation between MCS and these types of injuries - her brother has 4 bad brain injuries, had suffered with depression and anxiety for many years, possible caused by MCS, but when he took antidepressant / <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive_drug'>psychotropics</a> but did not work and his health declined - psychiatrists then gave him a cocktail of 7 psychotropics drugs


0:08:00


Since doctors don't believe in MCS - her brother was fully functioning professor of Culture and Information Studies at <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Western_Ontario'>Western University</a> and within 2 weeks he had a complete emotional and cognitive breakdown - last 4 years a nightmare as he has no diagnosis and no treatment


0:09:30


Commonality between MCS, FM (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibromyalgia'>fibromyalgia</a>) and ME (<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_Encephalomyelitis'>Myalgic Encephalomyelitis</a>) is that psychiatrists only read symptoms through a psychiatric lens and will not treat any other way - he's gotten worse and worse - Varda does a lot of his care taking, and it has taken its toll - ongoing crisis, with flares when he's worse - psychiatrist has cycled him through many meds, making him worse


0:10:30


He took himself of all meds in last 12 months as they had made him intensely suicidal - but he's left with deep depression, anxiety and sleeplessness - Varda believes her brother is highly <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity'>electromagnetic sensitive</a> (ES) and quite multiple chemical sensitive (MCS) - he went to good clinic in US with integrative medicine and they did <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroencephalography'>EEG</a>, <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiswJ_nspnkAhXDc98KHY1EA-QQFjAMegQICRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSingle-photon_emission_computed_tomography&usg=AOvVaw2gtykOvi_T4qDnORhoXn6t'>SPECT scans</a>, and said his brain was damaged


0:11:30


The clinic asked about exposure to chemicals and pesticides - her brother had <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meningitis'>meningitis</a> after his first brain injury - the clinic said he has an injured brain with chemical and electrical sensitivities - brought images and diagnosis back to Canada but no doctors to work with him because the medical system doesn't have MCS as a category and treat it as a mental illness

<p></p>
<p>"Family has been through medical hell"</p>

0:12:45


Medical system also fails to recognize that people with MCS respond adversely to psychotropic drugs - her brother has been through medical hell - has taken a terrible toll on family in various ways - educate herself on other treatment modalities like stroke based rehab to red light therapy - found rehab support worker, but he's so far gone he may not respond


0:14:30


Both mother and brother impacted by medical error - Varda avoids the word 'victim' especially for herself so she can maintain a positive attitude for her advocacy work - but without doubt her mother and brother are victims of hideous medical error - its been hard on the family and her spirit - Varda likes to think well of people but these ongoing medical experiences make that challenging


0:15:30


Since Varda was 15 and her mother went through botched surgery that left her damaged for life - Varda is 70 now and that is a long time - had had positive encounters but with the outliers in the medical system, like the <a href='https://www.ehcd.com/'>clinic in Dallas</a>


0:17:15


Varda thinks more and more Canadians have poor medical experiences since we see more and more conditions that are not part of the established system - kids born with neurological concitions like <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder'>ADHD</a>, <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_spectrum'>Autism Spectrum</a>, behavioural disorders - that are linked at least in part to chemicals like <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis'>lead poisoining - like the kids in Flint Michigan</a> - they will haven cognitive issues for the rest of their lives - since we've entered the chemical age, many families having trouble, and no solutions or supports - Varda's family story is pretty tough, but not usual


0:19:00


In 1984 Varda did a national radio series on 'environmental illnesses' and '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis'>iatrogenic</a> disease caused by physician' - remarkable the lack of awareness of medical errors - the medical establishment completely redicule, refuse, psychologize and other tactics with conditions that don't yet understand and delegitimatize them - yet the medical record of errors is very disturbing - people need not to think of physicians as infallible beings from god, but as human with a set of skills and knowledge that is imperfect and limited


0:20:30


Varda thinks many people who could afford to go to naturopaths, etc and spend a lot of money - they choose through actions / spending to go beyond the 'drugs and surgery' paradigm of allo medicine - but in Canada very few people get together to change the way medicine is practised by pressuring the govt and <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwijwKXPtpnkAhWEiOAKHZHSCNcQFjAAegQIBxAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cpso.on.ca%2F&usg=AOvVaw3Y3S6SSIpujOgtAjav7YRd'>College of Physicians and Surgeons</a> - except with HIV and Autism, it is rare to get enought people in movement to shift govt - people are unable to have social supports and get no response to the medical system
 

 
Psychologization and psychiatricization of the medical system 
 


0:23:30


Varda thinks most important things is that the psychologization and psychiatricization of the medical system in Ontario and Canada is a result of where the system is at, but it is not the cause - the cause is 3 things: the fundamental unwillingness to put in research dollars, the refusal to look at what works in other jurisdictions, and refusal to believe patients - if the govt funded ME and MCS equity it would be a different situation


0:24:45


Doctors should believe patients instead of the current mindset of defaulting to psychological - this mindset emerges from systemic discrimination and bias - there are a number of systemic factors that work seemlessly and synergistically together


0:26:30


In North America, MDs have developed a system of authority by putting all the other healing professions down as quackery and inefficient - after 100 years of this they believe their own shit


0:27:20


In Europe, naturopathic and herbal medicine were never discredited like they've been in North America - Indian <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda'>Ayurvedic medicine</a> is a respected body of healing knowledge - can say the same about <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_medicine'>Traditional Chinese Medicine</a> - the contempt MDs treated other modalities is very pronounced in North America - so that's part of the problem


0:28:00


Another factor - in Canada, payment is organized to pay doctors and hospital only - because when medicare was established, people were facing catastrophic losses and catastrotophic illnesses - so only looking at those types of medical care, not the vast chronic illnesses - not only aging population - didn't look at medicine to help people through that


0:29:00


Instead, doctors had monopoly on heath care dollar - as a <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild'>Guild</a> to protect their monopoly - medicare doesn't pay for natural supplementation even though it is often cheaper, healthier, more effective - instead we take and pay for pharmaceuticals because pharma got monopoly of public health care money - doctors have fought very hard to protect


0:29:50


Created a system where the doctor is supreme with no competition and got paid whether they did a good job or not - in the US is doctors have to compete, that means space opens for other treatment modalities - but many people in US uninsured - but it is not right that doctors hang onto power and not serve patient need
 

 
The Chemical Industry
 


0:44:00


But <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiG9eD-vJnkAhWIUt8KHT5CDU4QFjAAegQICBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aaaai.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw0nyib8qSCIqkO9h75rltN_'>Allergy and Immunology Association</a> tried to suppress that info - however, since 1999, a lots breakthroughs in diagnostic procedures and more evidence - in 2015 a group of French and Belgian researchers found in cancer studies the relation between environmental factors and cancer and began to see more and more people with ES and MCS


0:45:00


These researchers study nearly 1000 people from 2009 to 2015 - they found lots of biomarkers - researchers Dominic Valcome and Christine Champeniak and Philip Guerre published a paper "<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjx0-DGvJnkAhWynuAKHVZfDIUQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%2Fpubmed%2F26613326&usg=AOvVaw3W3mHX5Y6b0qww6xJBoe2S'>Reliable Disease Biomarkers Characterizing and Identifying Electro Sensitivity and Multiple Chemical Sensitivity as Two Etiopathogenic Aspects of a Unique Pathological Disorder</a>"


0:47:00


They see ES and MCS as same disorder - symptoms people feel are the same - 2 sides of same coin - the chemical industry and phone industry have spent gazillions of dollars resisting - but the researchers found 6 things can be found with standard medical tests that characterize ES and MCS


0:49:00


100% of patients have decreased 24 hour urine 6-hydroxy-melatonin-sulphate / creatinine - that is a melatonin deficiency, the <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland'>pineal gland</a> not working properly - causes chronic insomnia and fatigue - therefore a universal biomarker - also too much histamine in the blood and inflammation markers - found biomarkers - 2 biomarkers indicating blood brain barrier breakdown


0:50:30


Found circulating auto antibodies against <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwidq7mwvpnkAhXqc98KHbyxAK8QFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMyelin&usg=AOvVaw3BJlbWvyuz0BedgnU2DnRK'>O-myelin</a> - indicating a immune response - also very common hypoperfusion of the brain - not enough oxygen getting into brain - imaging also showed what region of brain - includes <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalamus'>thalamus</a> and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbic_system'>limbic systems</a>, that's where damage is - explains different and various symptoms


0:52:00


Varda is stunned that the <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj-0ILnvpnkAhXsmOAKHYvTCHkQFjAEegQIAxAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.health.gov.on.ca%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fministry%2Fpublications%2Freports%2Fenvironmental_health_2018%2Fdefault.aspx&usg=AOvVaw1rqS6SHxrxm-TQIiS6wPaf'>Ontario Task Force</a> did not take into account this evidence - so all these breakthrough and biomarkers are being willfully denied by Task Force - but research findings and symptoms match up


0:53:00


There is a real experiential resonance with diagnostic - and test are straight forward - but family doctors can't do or requistion the type of brain imaging needed - Varda's family doctor would have to send Varda to a neurologist who would probably refuse because they don't believe MCS is a real thing - this is why need a specialized facility where the doctors have the authority and accessing to the testing for diagnosis and for treatment
 

 
Willful Denial
 


0:55:00


3 stages to MCS: first stage is Susceptibility - may involve genetic predisposition, and or may have heavy accumulated burden of chemicals - Varda has the genetic predisposition according to tests


0:56:15


Varda in 80s went to her doctor with symptoms, but no test existed for pesticides and chemicals - but should've removed chemicals from living environment to stop progress of condition, or even reverse


0:58:00


Stage 2 is Intolerance - worse symptoms - migraines, cognitive dissonance, hives, fatigue, muscular weakness - need to be living in house without new building materials - treat any infections, assess body burden, etc - but according to Dallas clinic docs it is not reversible at this stage - Varda said important to also treat infections - person is disabled


1:00:50


Stage 3 is Isolation - Varda was in stage 3 before Dallas clinic, they've helped enormously - strengthened her immune system, decreased her infections, gave needed nutrients - Varda got so much better - important thing about medical error is that it gets done over and over for MCS patients


1:01:45


Media coverage of poeple forced to be homeless because of MCS - can't stay in homeless shelters because of chemicals - Varda knows people who have lived on their balcony in the winter in Ottawa - people living in tents leaving families behind - the medical error was simple ignorance is now willful ignorance and repeated over again - Varda says it is criminal


1:03:30


Pharma corporations and electrical corporations would consider people affected by meds or electricity as collateral damage - Varda wrote a novel about the privitization of water (<a href='http://vardaburstyn.com/environment-health/water-inc/'>Water Inc.</a>) - an environmental political thriller where those affected by electrical sensitivity will be allowed to die off so the 'fitter' survive - a form of eugenics
 
 
 
50 Shades of Apocalypse
 


1:06:00


Today with Trump we see an element of psychosis in denying what is happening in the environment and what we're going to have to get rid of to survive as a species - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World'>Brave New World by Alduos Huxley</a> written in 1932 was prescient - in his book, fetuses were bombarded with chemicals so they could work in chemical rich environements


1:09:00


Government makes risk assessment for chemicals decisions based on how many people will die - people making decision not ones being exposed - not an ethical way to evaluate chemicals


1:10:30


Varda says the dystopian streak in our culture projects 50 Shades of Apocalypse - our species has not learned to organize ourselves to actually respond to what is needed - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._O._Wilson'>EO Wilson</a>, sociologist, biologist, studied ants - he said 'the human species is dysfunctional because it has primeval emotions, medeival institutions, and capitalist of technology capable of destroying the world'


1:12:00


We have not yet succeeded in our ability to govern ourselves writ large - healthy communities are greater with less social / economic stratification - we don't fail technologically, or culturally / vision, but do fail at governance - it is easier for people to envision a apocalyptic future, than envision a future a fair honest govt that organizes society in the interest of the many - most people can't figure out how to govern for the benefit of all


1:13:30


In the US a new caucus <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi8xp2SwZnkAhUnh-AKHW-hAYcQFjAGegQICRAR&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGreen_New_Deal&usg=AOvVaw2x5Ca4kE2i15ulcTTRbB05'>The Green New Deal</a> is forming - like from the '30s - principles of redistribution, renew the economy, make the infrastructure green, provide jobs to all - we already have the tools to help people with these conditions - but we can't seem to control our institutions and our elites to make that happen
 

 
Connect with Varda Burstyn:
 


Varda's websites:


 


<a href='http://vardaburstyn.com/'>VardaBurstyn.com</a>


 


<a href='https://chemical-edge.com/'>Dispatches from the Chemical Edge</a>


 


Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/TheChemEdge'>@TheChemEdge</a>


 


Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/TheChemEdge/'>The Chemical Edge</a>
 
Varda's fiction book:  <a href='http://vardaburstyn.com/environment-health/water-inc/'>Water Inc.</a>
 
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Are you dealing with a medical error and need an experienced counsellor?
 
Book an online video counseling appointment with Scott at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>Remedies Counseling</a>.
 

 
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Author and environmental advocate <a href='https://chemical-edge.com/'>Varda Burstyn</a> is living with Multiple Chemical Sensitivity (MCS) - an illness mostly ignored - or outright denied - in the health care system. Patients experiencing MCS symptoms are usually labeled psychosomatic or malingerers or worse. </p>
<p>MCS is another example of a wide spread diagnostic mistake causing institutionalized medical harm by denying patients appropriate testing and access to treatment.</p>
<p>Varda’s family has numerous - and catastrophic - examples of medical error - including her mother and brother, requiring Varda to take on caretaker roles. In spite of this - or maybe because of it - Varda has become a force of nature in the environmental movement.</p>
<p>Over the years Varda’s <a href='http://vardaburstyn.com/'>extensive and award winning body of work</a> has tackled hard issues in politics, popular culture, science, technology, health and the environment, in every medium, for popular audiences and in scholarly venues, and her fiction has been translated into French, German and Korean.</p>
<p>As you will hear Varda attest, the medical system is a power system, and in some jurisdictions, it is a monopoly of power by the medical system colluding with Big Pharma over the communities’ health. Your health.</p>
<p>In sharing her own health care experiences, Varda unpacks the layers of historical and current influences and dynamics that construct our health systems.  </p>
<p>She notes that was once medical error was just simple ignorance - but it is now willful ignorance - and it is repeated over and over again - and that is criminal.</p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Multiple Medical Errors in Varda's Family</p>

0:06:00


Varda, from her teens to her mid-40s, had heavy care duties for her ill mother who had <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepsis'>septicemia</a> (sepsis) complications and developed MCS - Varda got married, moved away, but in her early 50s crashed with severe MCS (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_chemical_sensitivity'>Multiple Chemical Sensitivity</a>) - 4 years ago Varda's youngest brother, 13 years younger than Varda, had a massive breakdown - Varda thinks he has a triple or quadruple diagnosis - he has brain injuries - Varda also has 2 brain injuries and 3 quite bad spinal injuries


0:07:30


A lot of correlation between MCS and these types of injuries - her brother has 4 bad brain injuries, had suffered with depression and anxiety for many years, possible caused by MCS, but when he took antidepressant / <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive_drug'>psychotropics</a> but did not work and his health declined - psychiatrists then gave him a cocktail of 7 psychotropics drugs


0:08:00


Since doctors don't believe in MCS - her brother was fully functioning professor of Culture and Information Studies at <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Western_Ontario'>Western University</a> and within 2 weeks he had a complete emotional and cognitive breakdown - last 4 years a nightmare as he has no diagnosis and no treatment


0:09:30


Commonality between MCS, FM (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibromyalgia'>fibromyalgia</a>) and ME (<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_Encephalomyelitis'>Myalgic Encephalomyelitis</a>) is that psychiatrists only read symptoms through a psychiatric lens and will not treat any other way - he's gotten worse and worse - Varda does a lot of his care taking, and it has taken its toll - ongoing crisis, with flares when he's worse - psychiatrist has cycled him through many meds, making him worse


0:10:30


He took himself of all meds in last 12 months as they had made him intensely suicidal - but he's left with deep depression, anxiety and sleeplessness - Varda believes her brother is highly <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity'>electromagnetic sensitive</a> (ES) and quite multiple chemical sensitive (MCS) - he went to good clinic in US with integrative medicine and they did <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroencephalography'>EEG</a>, <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiswJ_nspnkAhXDc98KHY1EA-QQFjAMegQICRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSingle-photon_emission_computed_tomography&usg=AOvVaw2gtykOvi_T4qDnORhoXn6t'>SPECT scans</a>, and said his brain was damaged


0:11:30


The clinic asked about exposure to chemicals and pesticides - her brother had <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meningitis'>meningitis</a> after his first brain injury - the clinic said he has an injured brain with chemical and electrical sensitivities - brought images and diagnosis back to Canada but no doctors to work with him because the medical system doesn't have MCS as a category and treat it as a mental illness

<p></p>
<p>"Family has been through medical hell"</p>

0:12:45


Medical system also fails to recognize that people with MCS respond adversely to psychotropic drugs - her brother has been through medical hell - has taken a terrible toll on family in various ways - educate herself on other treatment modalities like stroke based rehab to red light therapy - found rehab support worker, but he's so far gone he may not respond


0:14:30


Both mother and brother impacted by medical error - Varda avoids the word 'victim' especially for herself so she can maintain a positive attitude for her advocacy work - but without doubt her mother and brother are victims of hideous medical error - its been hard on the family and her spirit - Varda likes to think well of people but these ongoing medical experiences make that challenging


0:15:30


Since Varda was 15 and her mother went through botched surgery that left her damaged for life - Varda is 70 now and that is a long time - had had positive encounters but with the outliers in the medical system, like the <a href='https://www.ehcd.com/'>clinic in Dallas</a>


0:17:15


Varda thinks more and more Canadians have poor medical experiences since we see more and more conditions that are not part of the established system - kids born with neurological concitions like <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder'>ADHD</a>, <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_spectrum'>Autism Spectrum</a>, behavioural disorders - that are linked at least in part to chemicals like <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis'>lead poisoining - like the kids in Flint Michigan</a> - they will haven cognitive issues for the rest of their lives - since we've entered the chemical age, many families having trouble, and no solutions or supports - Varda's family story is pretty tough, but not usual


0:19:00


In 1984 Varda did a national radio series on 'environmental illnesses' and '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis'>iatrogenic</a> disease caused by physician' - remarkable the lack of awareness of medical errors - the medical establishment completely redicule, refuse, psychologize and other tactics with conditions that don't yet understand and delegitimatize them - yet the medical record of errors is very disturbing - people need not to think of physicians as infallible beings from god, but as human with a set of skills and knowledge that is imperfect and limited


0:20:30


Varda thinks many people who could afford to go to naturopaths, etc and spend a lot of money - they choose through actions / spending to go beyond the 'drugs and surgery' paradigm of allo medicine - but in Canada very few people get together to change the way medicine is practised by pressuring the govt and <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwijwKXPtpnkAhWEiOAKHZHSCNcQFjAAegQIBxAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cpso.on.ca%2F&usg=AOvVaw3Y3S6SSIpujOgtAjav7YRd'>College of Physicians and Surgeons</a> - except with HIV and Autism, it is rare to get enought people in movement to shift govt - people are unable to have social supports and get no response to the medical system
 

 
Psychologization and psychiatricization of the medical system 
 


0:23:30


Varda thinks most important things is that the psychologization and psychiatricization of the medical system in Ontario and Canada is a result of where the system is at, but it is not the cause - the cause is 3 things: the fundamental unwillingness to put in research dollars, the refusal to look at what works in other jurisdictions, and refusal to believe patients - if the govt funded ME and MCS equity it would be a different situation


0:24:45


Doctors should believe patients instead of the current mindset of defaulting to psychological - this mindset emerges from systemic discrimination and bias - there are a number of systemic factors that work seemlessly and synergistically together


0:26:30


In North America, MDs have developed a system of authority by putting all the other healing professions down as quackery and inefficient - after 100 years of this they believe their own shit


0:27:20


In Europe, naturopathic and herbal medicine were never discredited like they've been in North America - Indian <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda'>Ayurvedic medicine</a> is a respected body of healing knowledge - can say the same about <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_medicine'>Traditional Chinese Medicine</a> - the contempt MDs treated other modalities is very pronounced in North America - so that's part of the problem


0:28:00


Another factor - in Canada, payment is organized to pay doctors and hospital only - because when medicare was established, people were facing catastrophic losses and catastrotophic illnesses - so only looking at those types of medical care, not the vast chronic illnesses - not only aging population - didn't look at medicine to help people through that


0:29:00


Instead, doctors had monopoly on heath care dollar - as a <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild'>Guild</a> to protect their monopoly - medicare doesn't pay for natural supplementation even though it is often cheaper, healthier, more effective - instead we take and pay for pharmaceuticals because pharma got monopoly of public health care money - doctors have fought very hard to protect


0:29:50


Created a system where the doctor is supreme with no competition and got paid whether they did a good job or not - in the US is doctors have to compete, that means space opens for other treatment modalities - but many people in US uninsured - but it is not right that doctors hang onto power and not serve patient need
 

 
The Chemical Industry
 


0:44:00


But <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiG9eD-vJnkAhWIUt8KHT5CDU4QFjAAegQICBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aaaai.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw0nyib8qSCIqkO9h75rltN_'>Allergy and Immunology Association</a> tried to suppress that info - however, since 1999, a lots breakthroughs in diagnostic procedures and more evidence - in 2015 a group of French and Belgian researchers found in cancer studies the relation between environmental factors and cancer and began to see more and more people with ES and MCS


0:45:00


These researchers study nearly 1000 people from 2009 to 2015 - they found lots of biomarkers - researchers Dominic Valcome and Christine Champeniak and Philip Guerre published a paper "<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjx0-DGvJnkAhWynuAKHVZfDIUQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%2Fpubmed%2F26613326&usg=AOvVaw3W3mHX5Y6b0qww6xJBoe2S'>Reliable Disease Biomarkers Characterizing and Identifying Electro Sensitivity and Multiple Chemical Sensitivity as Two Etiopathogenic Aspects of a Unique Pathological Disorder</a>"


0:47:00


They see ES and MCS as same disorder - symptoms people feel are the same - 2 sides of same coin - the chemical industry and phone industry have spent gazillions of dollars resisting - but the researchers found 6 things can be found with standard medical tests that characterize ES and MCS


0:49:00


100% of patients have decreased 24 hour urine 6-hydroxy-melatonin-sulphate / creatinine - that is a melatonin deficiency, the <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland'>pineal gland</a> not working properly - causes chronic insomnia and fatigue - therefore a universal biomarker - also too much histamine in the blood and inflammation markers - found biomarkers - 2 biomarkers indicating blood brain barrier breakdown


0:50:30


Found circulating auto antibodies against <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwidq7mwvpnkAhXqc98KHbyxAK8QFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMyelin&usg=AOvVaw3BJlbWvyuz0BedgnU2DnRK'>O-myelin</a> - indicating a immune response - also very common hypoperfusion of the brain - not enough oxygen getting into brain - imaging also showed what region of brain - includes <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalamus'>thalamus</a> and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbic_system'>limbic systems</a>, that's where damage is - explains different and various symptoms


0:52:00


Varda is stunned that the <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj-0ILnvpnkAhXsmOAKHYvTCHkQFjAEegQIAxAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.health.gov.on.ca%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fministry%2Fpublications%2Freports%2Fenvironmental_health_2018%2Fdefault.aspx&usg=AOvVaw1rqS6SHxrxm-TQIiS6wPaf'>Ontario Task Force</a> did not take into account this evidence - so all these breakthrough and biomarkers are being willfully denied by Task Force - but research findings and symptoms match up


0:53:00


There is a real experiential resonance with diagnostic - and test are straight forward - but family doctors can't do or requistion the type of brain imaging needed - Varda's family doctor would have to send Varda to a neurologist who would probably refuse because they don't believe MCS is a real thing - this is why need a specialized facility where the doctors have the authority and accessing to the testing for diagnosis and for treatment
 

 
Willful Denial
 


0:55:00


3 stages to MCS: first stage is Susceptibility - may involve genetic predisposition, and or may have heavy accumulated burden of chemicals - Varda has the genetic predisposition according to tests


0:56:15


Varda in 80s went to her doctor with symptoms, but no test existed for pesticides and chemicals - but should've removed chemicals from living environment to stop progress of condition, or even reverse


0:58:00


Stage 2 is Intolerance - worse symptoms - migraines, cognitive dissonance, hives, fatigue, muscular weakness - need to be living in house without new building materials - treat any infections, assess body burden, etc - but according to Dallas clinic docs it is not reversible at this stage - Varda said important to also treat infections - person is disabled


1:00:50


Stage 3 is Isolation - Varda was in stage 3 before Dallas clinic, they've helped enormously - strengthened her immune system, decreased her infections, gave needed nutrients - Varda got so much better - important thing about medical error is that it gets done over and over for MCS patients


1:01:45


Media coverage of poeple forced to be homeless because of MCS - can't stay in homeless shelters because of chemicals - Varda knows people who have lived on their balcony in the winter in Ottawa - people living in tents leaving families behind - the medical error was simple ignorance is now willful ignorance and repeated over again - Varda says it is criminal


1:03:30


Pharma corporations and electrical corporations would consider people affected by meds or electricity as collateral damage - Varda wrote a novel about the privitization of water (<a href='http://vardaburstyn.com/environment-health/water-inc/'>Water Inc.</a>) - an environmental political thriller where those affected by electrical sensitivity will be allowed to die off so the 'fitter' survive - a form of eugenics
 
 
 
50 Shades of Apocalypse
 


1:06:00


Today with Trump we see an element of psychosis in denying what is happening in the environment and what we're going to have to get rid of to survive as a species - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World'>Brave New World by Alduos Huxley</a> written in 1932 was prescient - in his book, fetuses were bombarded with chemicals so they could work in chemical rich environements


1:09:00


Government makes risk assessment for chemicals decisions based on how many people will die - people making decision not ones being exposed - not an ethical way to evaluate chemicals


1:10:30


Varda says the dystopian streak in our culture projects 50 Shades of Apocalypse - our species has not learned to organize ourselves to actually respond to what is needed - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._O._Wilson'>EO Wilson</a>, sociologist, biologist, studied ants - he said 'the human species is dysfunctional because it has primeval emotions, medeival institutions, and capitalist of technology capable of destroying the world'


1:12:00


We have not yet succeeded in our ability to govern ourselves writ large - healthy communities are greater with less social / economic stratification - we don't fail technologically, or culturally / vision, but do fail at governance - it is easier for people to envision a apocalyptic future, than envision a future a fair honest govt that organizes society in the interest of the many - most people can't figure out how to govern for the benefit of all


1:13:30


In the US a new caucus <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi8xp2SwZnkAhUnh-AKHW-hAYcQFjAGegQICRAR&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGreen_New_Deal&usg=AOvVaw2x5Ca4kE2i15ulcTTRbB05'>The Green New Deal</a> is forming - like from the '30s - principles of redistribution, renew the economy, make the infrastructure green, provide jobs to all - we already have the tools to help people with these conditions - but we can't seem to control our institutions and our elites to make that happen
 

 
Connect with Varda Burstyn:
 


Varda's websites:


 


<a href='http://vardaburstyn.com/'>VardaBurstyn.com</a>


 


<a href='https://chemical-edge.com/'>Dispatches from the Chemical Edge</a>


 


Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/TheChemEdge'>@TheChemEdge</a>


 


Facebook: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/TheChemEdge/'>The Chemical Edge</a>
 
Varda's fiction book:  <a href='http://vardaburstyn.com/environment-health/water-inc/'>Water Inc.</a>
 
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MCS is another example of a wide spread diagnostic mistake causing institutionalized medical harm by denying patients appropriate testing and access to treatment.
Varda’s family has numerous - and catastrophic - examples of medical error - including her mother and brother, requiring Varda to take on caretaker roles. In spite of this - or maybe because of it - Varda has become a force of nature in the environmental movement.
Over the years Varda’s extensive and award winning body of work has tackled hard issues in politics, popular culture, science, technology, health and the environment, in every medium, for popular audiences and in scholarly venues, and her fiction has been translated into French, German and Korean.
As you will hear Varda attest, the medical system is a power system, and in some jurisdictions, it is a monopoly of power by the medical system colluding with Big Pharma over the communities’ health. Your health.
In sharing her own health care experiences, Varda unpacks the layers of historical and current influences and dynamics that construct our health systems.  
She notes that was once medical error was just simple ignorance - but it is now willful ignorance - and it is repeated over and over again - and that is criminal.
SHOW NOTES
 
 
Multiple Medical Errors in Varda's Family

0:06:00


Varda, from her teens to her mid-40s, had heavy care duties for her ill mother who had septicemia (sepsis) complications and developed MCS - Varda got married, moved away, but in her early 50s crashed with severe MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity) - 4 years ago Varda's youngest brother, 13 years younger than Varda, had a massive breakdown - Varda thinks he has a triple or quadruple diagnosis - he has brain injuries - Varda also has 2 brain injuries and 3 quite bad spinal injuries


0:07:30


A lot of correlation between MCS and these types of injuries - her brother has 4 bad brain injuries, had suffered with depression and anxiety for many years, possible caused by MCS, but when he took antidepressant / psychotropics but did not work and his health declined - psychiatrists then gave him a cocktail of 7 psychotropics drugs


0:08:00


Since doctors don't believe in MCS - her brother was fully functioning professor of Culture and Information Studies at Western University and within 2 weeks he had a complete emotional and cognitive breakdown - last 4 years a nightmare as he has no diagnosis and no treatment


0:09:30


Commonality between MCS, FM (fibromyalgia) and ME (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis) is that psychiatrists only read symptoms through a psychiatric lens and will not treat any other way - he's gotten worse and worse - Varda does a lot of his care taking, and it has taken its toll - ongoing crisis, with flares when he's worse - psychiatrist has cycled him through many meds, making him worse


0:10:30


He took himself of all meds in last 12 months as they had made him intensely suicidal - but he's left with deep depression, anxiety and sleeplessness - Varda believes her brother is highly electromagnetic sensitive (ES) and quite multiple chemical sensitive (MCS) - he went to good clinic in US with integrative medicine and they did EEG, SPECT scans, and said his brain was damaged


0:11:30


The clinic asked about exposure to chemicals and pesticides - her brother had meningitis after his first brain injury - the clinic said he has an injured brain with chemical and electrical sensitivities - brought images and diagnosis back to Canada but no doctors to work with him because the medical system doesn't have MCS as a category and treat it as a mental illness


"Family has been through medical hell"

0:12:45


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Paul Smith, an artist and self-described workaholic, for years experienced weird and increasingly debilitating symptoms, that would come for periods of time and mostly or completely dissipate.</p>
<p>Flu like symptoms, abdominal pain, muscle weakness, confusion - problems with his vision speech and balance - breathing problems where felt like he was suffocating</p>
<p>These symptoms were so intense that at times Paul felt like he was going to die, and so he wrote letters to his children.</p>
<p>Doctors dismissed his symptoms. Doctors labeled Paul with a somatization diagnosis, basically saying he wasn’t physically sick, just mentally. </p>
<p>For years, every doctor Paul went to about his debilitating physical symptoms would see the somatization diagnosis on the front page of his medical record, and dismiss Paul’s symptoms as being in his head.</p>
<p>Then Paul developed a massive abscess next to his bowel and developed life threatening sepsis. The doctors couldn’t dismiss those facts. Paul received antibiotics for the sepsis and his other symptoms disappeared.</p>
<p>Yet when that treatment ended and Paul fell sick again, the somatization diagnosis preceded him to every doctor and once they saw that label, any of Paul’s physical symptoms were dismissed. </p>
<p>But Paul did not give up. Eventually he found a couple of doctors - his ‘heroes’ - and he was finally and correctly - after 20+ years since the symptoms started - diagnosed with D-Lactic Acidosis, which is an over growth of bacteria in the gut, flooding Paul’s body with its neurotoxin.</p>
<p>Paul thinks many other people with other diagnosis like ME/CFS or somatization, may also have bacterial over growth in their guts.</p>
<p>Paul had to fight for years to get the harmful somatization label taken out his medical file. That label prevented Paul from receiving appropriate medical testing and treatment for years and Paul contends that the somatization diagnosis is in effect, a human rights violation.</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Fit, healthy and productive until...</p>

0:06:45


Paul - very health child in Cheltenham (UK) - not into sport during school, but got into weight lifting as an adult - went to a very good school, good teachers


0:08:15


Studied art, European history, and sociology, A Level - later in his 30s did his degree in Fine Art, sculpture - but got an electronics job out of school - Foundation course important


0:10:45


After college started to have problems for the first time - different ways Paul could have developed chronic fatigue or ME (<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>Myalgic Encephalomyelitis</a>) leading to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acidosis'>D-Lactic Acidosis</a> because he re-built 3 houses and exposed to pesticides - when he got really ill in early 90s - sprayed his loft with pesticides and that's when he had problems from that point - started cleaing up the loft space - had been treated many time over the years


0:11:45


House built in 1840s so lots spraying - when Paul got a broom to sweep up dust and debris he immediately fell ill - also using <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonsteroidal_anti-inflammatory_drug'>NSAID</a>s (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug) during this period - symptoms fatigue, muscle pain - abnormal fatigue after activity - NSAIDs affect mucosal lining of gut and healing of gut - inhibit different synthesis - taking NSAIDs during working, rebuilding house, and working out


0:13:55


Bit of workaholic - damaged both shoulders and collapse a disc - at this point encountered the pesticides - a number of things contributing to his illness - using NSAIDs to push through and mask the pain


0:15:15


Developed bowel perforation with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepsis'>sepsis</a> with D-Lactic Acidosis symptoms: overgrowth of bacteria in the small intestine - sounds benign but isn't - Paul thinks there are many different types of bacterial overgrowth - like IBS - gut bacteria produce metabolites like D Lactic Acid - produces a <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotoxin'>neurotoxin</a> D-Lactin would explain neurological symptoms in a lot of people


0:17:15


Paul had been diagnosed with <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome'>chronic fatigue syndrome</a> and ME, but he believes bacterial overgrowth may be affecting others with those diagnoses - Australian researchers found high level bacteria in ME patients


0:18:00


Fell really ill in 1999 - developed infection and D-Lactic symptoms at same time - hard to tell apart in early stages as D-Lactic feels like infection - flu like symptoms, abodominal pain, muscle weakness, breathing problems due lactic acid in blood - visual problems, confusion, speech problems, balance problems - symptoms can fluctuate - can disappear and don't know why
 

 
Entering Hell
 


0:20:15


Symptoms so bad "thought I'd entered Hell" - expecting to die or commit suicide to escape suffering - only reason Paul didn't was because of his children - but had written letters so his children would know why he had committed suicide


0:21:30


Before got really sick in '99, medical system mostly useless - Paul did have raised CK (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatine_kinase'>creatine kinase</a>) levels - but given <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatization'>somatization</a> diagnosis by psychiatrist even though had raised <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alanine_transaminase'>ALT</a> levels


0:22:30


Raised CK shows muscle or heart problems - raised ALT shows problem with liver - Paul believes that a somatization is a human rights issue because an unreasonable diagnosis because its based on any one experiencing multiple changing symptoms with a period of 2 years - they are basically saying "if they can't find it, you're the problem"


0:23:45


D-Lactic Acidosis causes multiple changing symptoms - but when give a somatization diagnosis, doctors don't have to search for other causes and patient conveniently swept under the rug - they tell you your brain is manufacturing the pain and the symptoms - Paul was shocked, upset, scared with that diagnosis because he was so sick


0:25:00


NSAIDs caused a massive abscess next to his bowel - damage to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucous_membrane'>mucosal lining</a> and his lower bowel perforated but not found until 2003, more than 3 years since sepsis - then difficult to treat, still infected in 2006


0:27:30


Paul noticed his symptoms would abate when he took antibiotics - this was a clue D-Lactic Acidosis was causing symptoms - but could be treated with same antibiotic (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metronidazole'>metronidazole</a>) that helped with sepsis - Paul kept telling them from 2003 that he had some other kind of infection even after sepsis eradicated


0:27:45


Paul's doctor noted for emergency doctors that Paul was 'drunk not drunk' because this were D-Lactic symptoms and not somatizing - but 'somatization' label was in his health record and took to 2017 to get it removed - had to fight hospital continuously to get it corrected even after they found the abscess


0:29:05


People with multiple changing symptoms will get somatization diagnosis - a highly prejudicial diagnosis - this is where it becomes a human rights abuse


0:30:45 Psychiatrist (MD <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Frances'>Allen J. Francis</a>) has written a lot about misdiagnosis - he wrote "Mislabeling medical illlness as a psychological disorder" - he has <a href='https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/saving-normal'>blog</a> that outlines harm from somatization



<p></p>
<p>Brother's betrayal</p>

0:31:30 Paul had a good doctor who said he wasn't somatizing but other doctors took the somatization label seriously - in the UK there is a document called Your Significant Medical History - the first document a doctor will see, highly influential and prejudicial - Paul steered clear of psychiatrists and was not sectioned


0:32:45 Paul was left in danger because of somatization label - he had a sepsis infection with periods of shock - but D-Lactic symptoms really serious with breathing issues, felt like Paul was suffocating at times - can have normal oxygen levels in your blood because D-Lactic affects mitochondria


0:34:15


Couldn't work - if Paul tried his energy levels would crash quickly - breathing problems, weakness, very ill - remembers trying to do things when he was ill, dizzy - Paul partially bought into the idea he must have psychological problems because that's what the doctors kept saying - so he kept pushing his body, making himself sicker - could end up in bed for weeks - had oxygen tank at home - but couldn't recover


0:37:30


Paul's brother is a doctor - he told everyone in their family that it was all in Paul's head and they all turned their backs on Paul - he was shocked how people treated him when he fell ill, even when he went asking for their help - people would just ignore him


0:38:45


But Paul did have a good doctor who believed Paul was physically sick and got him to see neurologists but they just said it was somatization - 2 of them noted that he had D-Lactic illness but did not comprehend - D-Lactic Acidosis is a hidden problem - normally associated with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_bowel_syndrome'>Short Bowel Syndrome</a>


0:39:45


<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjfvL_h3IXkAhXMUt8KHSzYBg0QFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fcriticalcare&usg=AOvVaw2afsuSIhTxEGAnJqeeLIb7'>Dr Luke White</a> gastroenterologist believes D-Lactic Acidosis is much more common then being diagnosed - Dr White believes that any one with bacterial over growth can develop D-Lactic Acidosis - Paul says a lot of people with ME/CFS have bacterial over growth - and still much research to be done


0:40:45


Paul eventually got a diagnosis from <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiH8b_23IXkAhXqUN8KHfqdDpwQFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMalcolm_Hooper&usg=AOvVaw1mtOGLiQaHqI2DoZbvHhvZ'>Dr Malcolm Hooper</a> and <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiXhfyJ3YXkAhXmlOAKHVKvBtQQFjAAegQICBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSarah_Myhill&usg=AOvVaw3NLbsvCIzTRt_g-PoWN_sZ'>Dr Sarah Myhill</a> - but NHS (<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwil9MKe3YXkAhXmY98KHeEeD34QFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNational_Health_Service&usg=AOvVaw33ADadvpqBEjgsXBuKuXbU'>National Health Services</a>) cut off Paul's benefits before Dr Myhill could order the tests - Paul considers both doctors to be his heroes - and wouldn't have made it without Dr Hooper - Paul positive response to antibiotics was the clue to D-Lactic - when his GP retired he left Paul a big supply of antibiotics to treat himself - and Paul realized he was on his own and started to investigate

<p></p>
<p>Expecting to die</p>

0:42:45


By 2016 Paul was expecting to die as he was developing reistance to the antibiotics - very worried so looked further - found D-Lactic Acidosis by chance after a conversation with Professor Hooper about fermented gut - when natural gut bacteria build up in small intestine they cause production of D-Lactic and imbalance occurs


0:43:30


Antibiotics failing, Paul had written his will - but in his research he found a list of symptoms for D-Lactic Acidosis and knew immediately that is what he had and made an appointment with a D-Lactic specialist - Paul took his records and symptom list and his positive response to anitbiotics


0:45:00


Specialist quickly diagnosed Paul and said it may have been the cause of his symptoms for the last 20 years - Paul was given a diet that restricted consumption of carbs and sugars thereby decreasing production of D-Lactic neurotoxin - so can control symptoms without antibiotics


0:47:15


A number of auto immune illness patients also do well on low carb / sugar diets - Paul says D-Lactic can damage the gut causing auto immune problems - Paul says D-Lactic is an infection, but doesn't raise your temperature because they don't get into the blood stream like a normal infection - but the metabolites do exit the gut and cause symptoms - but small quantities will damage mucosal lining and cause an immune response - bacterial overgrowth may be causing a lot of problems


0:48:00


Antibiotics can select for certain types of bacterial over growth - they can also cause over growth through resistance - treating live stock in our food system with antibiotics can also 'train' bacteria to be resistant - high carbs + antibiotics + NSAIDs maybe contribute to bacterial over growth


0:49:30


Paul was able to use antibiotics until he became resistant - antibiotics are primitive way of dealing bacterial over growth - he's hoping to get a <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjVzrO534XkAhXnTN8KHcBDAVAQFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFecal_microbiota_transplant&usg=AOvVaw3lEgE80M5mwB9t9SLVZiZs'>fecal transplant</a> to completely reverse the condition - he's had some temporary success with <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwit6JXH34XkAhVxmeAKHQxXDdIQFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FProbiotic&usg=AOvVaw0x-D_51ByGRU19YiSFNjP_'>probiotics</a>, but it is complex and he needs help, but is not getting it from health system


0:51:00


Just <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjNuePX34XkAhVJT98KHbLQChsQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEscherichia_coli&usg=AOvVaw384W2cu8WAeLvZz52hnk-F'>E Coli</a> has both helpful and unhelpful forms, so too do gut bacteria - but nobody explored and mapped gut biome - Paul has to do own research just to keep himself alive
 

 
Lucky to be alive
 


0:52:00


Paul believes D-Lactic Acidosis may have already caused some deaths since it is a multi systemic neruological illness - Paul is fighint the NHS and the Hospital - he's asked them to investigate but they don't want to - the local NHS is fighting Paul tooth and nail - and his brother / physician believes his doctor colleagues somatization label in spite of acknowledging they only get 10 minutes with a patient - the somatization label negatively impacts subsequent health care


0:53:45


In spite of abnormal blood results, 2 psychiatrists labeled somatization diagnosis - making life difficult and no doctor would take Paul seriously, even in emergency room - other doctors requested blood gas testing but it was ignored for years because of somatization label on front of his medical records


0:55:30


Paul was very 'lucky' to get a proper D-Lactic Acidosis diagnosis, very lucky to have met Professor Hooper - Paul believes others will also have been misdiagnosed - people with IBS and other bacterial growth as some Australian researchers have found


0:56:55


Getting D-Lactic Testing is 2 stages: first is testing for bacterial over growth from a gastroenterologist - symptoms would include bloating, burping, production of a lot gases, abdominal pain, and problems from food with carbs - Paul needs to keep his carb consumption low


0:58:45


2nd step far more difficult - Paul is one of few who has been diagnosed - so will have to be pushy with gastroenterologist for further testing for D-Lactate - possible through Dr Sarah Myhill - definitely worth the expense - and ask for D-Lactic gastrenterologist specialist


1:00:30


Fecal matter transplant is using 'poo' from a healthy super donor to put back into the ill person's body the healthy bacteria - Paul hopes to pursue it and has done some research and there are cases of reversal via FMT - Paul is getting further testing - and is pioneering his own diagnoses and treatment


1:02:30


Paul has had to transform himself from a sculptor to a medical researcher - Paul says a lot of other people also unwell so he's trying to get as much info out to others


1:03:25


Paul thinks there other forms of bacterial over growth beyond D-Lactic and its metabolites - that research needs to be done so others can get diagnosis and treatment
 

 
Research
 


Increased d-lactic Acid intestinal bacteria in patients with chronic fatigue syndrome.


<a href='mailto:www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19567398Fecal'>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19567398Fecal</a>


 


Microbiota Transplantation for Fibromyalgia: A Case Report and Review of the Literature


<a href='mailto:www.researchgate.net/publication/316564507_Fecal_Microbiota_Transplantation_for_Fibromyalgia_A_Case_Report_and_Review_of_the_LiteratureMislabeling'>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316564507_Fecal_Microbiota_Transplantation_for_Fibromyalgia_A_Case_Report_and_Review_of_the_LiteratureMislabeling</a>


 


Medical Illness As Mental Disorder


<a href='https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/dsm5-in-distress/201301/bad-news-dsm-5-refuses-correct-somatic-symptom-disorder'>https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/dsm5-in-distress/201301/bad-news-dsm-5-refuses-correct-somatic-symptom-disorder</a>
 
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Scott Simpson - counsellor and podcast host
 
<a href='https://remediescounseling.com'> Remedies Counseling - Making Life Better</a>
 
 




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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Smith, an artist and self-described workaholic, for years experienced weird and increasingly debilitating symptoms, that would come for periods of time and mostly or completely dissipate.</p>
<p>Flu like symptoms, abdominal pain, muscle weakness, confusion - problems with his vision speech and balance - breathing problems where felt like he was suffocating</p>
<p>These symptoms were so intense that at times Paul felt like he was going to die, and so he wrote letters to his children.</p>
<p>Doctors dismissed his symptoms. Doctors labeled Paul with a somatization diagnosis, basically saying he wasn’t physically sick, just mentally. </p>
<p>For years, every doctor Paul went to about his debilitating physical symptoms would see the somatization diagnosis on the front page of his medical record, and dismiss Paul’s symptoms as being in his head.</p>
<p>Then Paul developed a massive abscess next to his bowel and developed life threatening sepsis. The doctors couldn’t dismiss those facts. Paul received antibiotics for the sepsis and his other symptoms disappeared.</p>
<p>Yet when that treatment ended and Paul fell sick again, the somatization diagnosis preceded him to every doctor and once they saw that label, any of Paul’s physical symptoms were dismissed. </p>
<p>But Paul did not give up. Eventually he found a couple of doctors - his ‘heroes’ - and he was finally and correctly - after 20+ years since the symptoms started - diagnosed with D-Lactic Acidosis, which is an over growth of bacteria in the gut, flooding Paul’s body with its neurotoxin.</p>
<p>Paul thinks many other people with other diagnosis like ME/CFS or somatization, may also have bacterial over growth in their guts.</p>
<p>Paul had to fight for years to get the harmful somatization label taken out his medical file. That label prevented Paul from receiving appropriate medical testing and treatment for years and Paul contends that the somatization diagnosis is in effect, a human rights violation.</p>
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<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Fit, healthy and productive until...</p>

0:06:45


Paul - very health child in Cheltenham (UK) - not into sport during school, but got into weight lifting as an adult - went to a very good school, good teachers


0:08:15


Studied art, European history, and sociology, A Level - later in his 30s did his degree in Fine Art, sculpture - but got an electronics job out of school - Foundation course important


0:10:45


After college started to have problems for the first time - different ways Paul could have developed chronic fatigue or ME (<a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>Myalgic Encephalomyelitis</a>) leading to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acidosis'>D-Lactic Acidosis</a> because he re-built 3 houses and exposed to pesticides - when he got really ill in early 90s - sprayed his loft with pesticides and that's when he had problems from that point - started cleaing up the loft space - had been treated many time over the years


0:11:45


House built in 1840s so lots spraying - when Paul got a broom to sweep up dust and debris he immediately fell ill - also using <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonsteroidal_anti-inflammatory_drug'>NSAID</a>s (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug) during this period - symptoms fatigue, muscle pain - abnormal fatigue after activity - NSAIDs affect mucosal lining of gut and healing of gut - inhibit different synthesis - taking NSAIDs during working, rebuilding house, and working out


0:13:55


Bit of workaholic - damaged both shoulders and collapse a disc - at this point encountered the pesticides - a number of things contributing to his illness - using NSAIDs to push through and mask the pain


0:15:15


Developed bowel perforation with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepsis'>sepsis</a> with D-Lactic Acidosis symptoms: overgrowth of bacteria in the small intestine - sounds benign but isn't - Paul thinks there are many different types of bacterial overgrowth - like IBS - gut bacteria produce metabolites like D Lactic Acid - produces a <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotoxin'>neurotoxin</a> D-Lactin would explain neurological symptoms in a lot of people


0:17:15


Paul had been diagnosed with <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome'>chronic fatigue syndrome</a> and ME, but he believes bacterial overgrowth may be affecting others with those diagnoses - Australian researchers found high level bacteria in ME patients


0:18:00


Fell really ill in 1999 - developed infection and D-Lactic symptoms at same time - hard to tell apart in early stages as D-Lactic feels like infection - flu like symptoms, abodominal pain, muscle weakness, breathing problems due lactic acid in blood - visual problems, confusion, speech problems, balance problems - symptoms can fluctuate - can disappear and don't know why
 

 
Entering Hell
 


0:20:15


Symptoms so bad "thought I'd entered Hell" - expecting to die or commit suicide to escape suffering - only reason Paul didn't was because of his children - but had written letters so his children would know why he had committed suicide


0:21:30


Before got really sick in '99, medical system mostly useless - Paul did have raised CK (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatine_kinase'>creatine kinase</a>) levels - but given <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatization'>somatization</a> diagnosis by psychiatrist even though had raised <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alanine_transaminase'>ALT</a> levels


0:22:30


Raised CK shows muscle or heart problems - raised ALT shows problem with liver - Paul believes that a somatization is a human rights issue because an unreasonable diagnosis because its based on any one experiencing multiple changing symptoms with a period of 2 years - they are basically saying "if they can't find it, you're the problem"


0:23:45


D-Lactic Acidosis causes multiple changing symptoms - but when give a somatization diagnosis, doctors don't have to search for other causes and patient conveniently swept under the rug - they tell you your brain is manufacturing the pain and the symptoms - Paul was shocked, upset, scared with that diagnosis because he was so sick


0:25:00


NSAIDs caused a massive abscess next to his bowel - damage to <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucous_membrane'>mucosal lining</a> and his lower bowel perforated but not found until 2003, more than 3 years since sepsis - then difficult to treat, still infected in 2006


0:27:30


Paul noticed his symptoms would abate when he took antibiotics - this was a clue D-Lactic Acidosis was causing symptoms - but could be treated with same antibiotic (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metronidazole'>metronidazole</a>) that helped with sepsis - Paul kept telling them from 2003 that he had some other kind of infection even after sepsis eradicated


0:27:45


Paul's doctor noted for emergency doctors that Paul was 'drunk not drunk' because this were D-Lactic symptoms and not somatizing - but 'somatization' label was in his health record and took to 2017 to get it removed - had to fight hospital continuously to get it corrected even after they found the abscess


0:29:05


People with multiple changing symptoms will get somatization diagnosis - a highly prejudicial diagnosis - this is where it becomes a human rights abuse


0:30:45 Psychiatrist (MD <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Frances'>Allen J. Francis</a>) has written a lot about misdiagnosis - he wrote "Mislabeling medical illlness as a psychological disorder" - he has <a href='https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/saving-normal'>blog</a> that outlines harm from somatization



<p></p>
<p>Brother's betrayal</p>

0:31:30 Paul had a good doctor who said he wasn't somatizing but other doctors took the somatization label seriously - in the UK there is a document called Your Significant Medical History - the first document a doctor will see, highly influential and prejudicial - Paul steered clear of psychiatrists and was not sectioned


0:32:45 Paul was left in danger because of somatization label - he had a sepsis infection with periods of shock - but D-Lactic symptoms really serious with breathing issues, felt like Paul was suffocating at times - can have normal oxygen levels in your blood because D-Lactic affects mitochondria


0:34:15


Couldn't work - if Paul tried his energy levels would crash quickly - breathing problems, weakness, very ill - remembers trying to do things when he was ill, dizzy - Paul partially bought into the idea he must have psychological problems because that's what the doctors kept saying - so he kept pushing his body, making himself sicker - could end up in bed for weeks - had oxygen tank at home - but couldn't recover


0:37:30


Paul's brother is a doctor - he told everyone in their family that it was all in Paul's head and they all turned their backs on Paul - he was shocked how people treated him when he fell ill, even when he went asking for their help - people would just ignore him


0:38:45


But Paul did have a good doctor who believed Paul was physically sick and got him to see neurologists but they just said it was somatization - 2 of them noted that he had D-Lactic illness but did not comprehend - D-Lactic Acidosis is a hidden problem - normally associated with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_bowel_syndrome'>Short Bowel Syndrome</a>


0:39:45


<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjfvL_h3IXkAhXMUt8KHSzYBg0QFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fcriticalcare&usg=AOvVaw2afsuSIhTxEGAnJqeeLIb7'>Dr Luke White</a> gastroenterologist believes D-Lactic Acidosis is much more common then being diagnosed - Dr White believes that any one with bacterial over growth can develop D-Lactic Acidosis - Paul says a lot of people with ME/CFS have bacterial over growth - and still much research to be done


0:40:45


Paul eventually got a diagnosis from <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiH8b_23IXkAhXqUN8KHfqdDpwQFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMalcolm_Hooper&usg=AOvVaw1mtOGLiQaHqI2DoZbvHhvZ'>Dr Malcolm Hooper</a> and <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiXhfyJ3YXkAhXmlOAKHVKvBtQQFjAAegQICBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSarah_Myhill&usg=AOvVaw3NLbsvCIzTRt_g-PoWN_sZ'>Dr Sarah Myhill</a> - but NHS (<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwil9MKe3YXkAhXmY98KHeEeD34QFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNational_Health_Service&usg=AOvVaw33ADadvpqBEjgsXBuKuXbU'>National Health Services</a>) cut off Paul's benefits before Dr Myhill could order the tests - Paul considers both doctors to be his heroes - and wouldn't have made it without Dr Hooper - Paul positive response to antibiotics was the clue to D-Lactic - when his GP retired he left Paul a big supply of antibiotics to treat himself - and Paul realized he was on his own and started to investigate

<p></p>
<p>Expecting to die</p>

0:42:45


By 2016 Paul was expecting to die as he was developing reistance to the antibiotics - very worried so looked further - found D-Lactic Acidosis by chance after a conversation with Professor Hooper about fermented gut - when natural gut bacteria build up in small intestine they cause production of D-Lactic and imbalance occurs


0:43:30


Antibiotics failing, Paul had written his will - but in his research he found a list of symptoms for D-Lactic Acidosis and knew immediately that is what he had and made an appointment with a D-Lactic specialist - Paul took his records and symptom list and his positive response to anitbiotics


0:45:00


Specialist quickly diagnosed Paul and said it may have been the cause of his symptoms for the last 20 years - Paul was given a diet that restricted consumption of carbs and sugars thereby decreasing production of D-Lactic neurotoxin - so can control symptoms without antibiotics


0:47:15


A number of auto immune illness patients also do well on low carb / sugar diets - Paul says D-Lactic can damage the gut causing auto immune problems - Paul says D-Lactic is an infection, but doesn't raise your temperature because they don't get into the blood stream like a normal infection - but the metabolites do exit the gut and cause symptoms - but small quantities will damage mucosal lining and cause an immune response - bacterial overgrowth may be causing a lot of problems


0:48:00


Antibiotics can select for certain types of bacterial over growth - they can also cause over growth through resistance - treating live stock in our food system with antibiotics can also 'train' bacteria to be resistant - high carbs + antibiotics + NSAIDs maybe contribute to bacterial over growth


0:49:30


Paul was able to use antibiotics until he became resistant - antibiotics are primitive way of dealing bacterial over growth - he's hoping to get a <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjVzrO534XkAhXnTN8KHcBDAVAQFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFecal_microbiota_transplant&usg=AOvVaw3lEgE80M5mwB9t9SLVZiZs'>fecal transplant</a> to completely reverse the condition - he's had some temporary success with <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwit6JXH34XkAhVxmeAKHQxXDdIQFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FProbiotic&usg=AOvVaw0x-D_51ByGRU19YiSFNjP_'>probiotics</a>, but it is complex and he needs help, but is not getting it from health system


0:51:00


Just <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjNuePX34XkAhVJT98KHbLQChsQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEscherichia_coli&usg=AOvVaw384W2cu8WAeLvZz52hnk-F'>E Coli</a> has both helpful and unhelpful forms, so too do gut bacteria - but nobody explored and mapped gut biome - Paul has to do own research just to keep himself alive
 

 
Lucky to be alive
 


0:52:00


Paul believes D-Lactic Acidosis may have already caused some deaths since it is a multi systemic neruological illness - Paul is fighint the NHS and the Hospital - he's asked them to investigate but they don't want to - the local NHS is fighting Paul tooth and nail - and his brother / physician believes his doctor colleagues somatization label in spite of acknowledging they only get 10 minutes with a patient - the somatization label negatively impacts subsequent health care


0:53:45


In spite of abnormal blood results, 2 psychiatrists labeled somatization diagnosis - making life difficult and no doctor would take Paul seriously, even in emergency room - other doctors requested blood gas testing but it was ignored for years because of somatization label on front of his medical records


0:55:30


Paul was very 'lucky' to get a proper D-Lactic Acidosis diagnosis, very lucky to have met Professor Hooper - Paul believes others will also have been misdiagnosed - people with IBS and other bacterial growth as some Australian researchers have found


0:56:55


Getting D-Lactic Testing is 2 stages: first is testing for bacterial over growth from a gastroenterologist - symptoms would include bloating, burping, production of a lot gases, abdominal pain, and problems from food with carbs - Paul needs to keep his carb consumption low


0:58:45


2nd step far more difficult - Paul is one of few who has been diagnosed - so will have to be pushy with gastroenterologist for further testing for D-Lactate - possible through Dr Sarah Myhill - definitely worth the expense - and ask for D-Lactic gastrenterologist specialist


1:00:30


Fecal matter transplant is using 'poo' from a healthy super donor to put back into the ill person's body the healthy bacteria - Paul hopes to pursue it and has done some research and there are cases of reversal via FMT - Paul is getting further testing - and is pioneering his own diagnoses and treatment


1:02:30


Paul has had to transform himself from a sculptor to a medical researcher - Paul says a lot of other people also unwell so he's trying to get as much info out to others


1:03:25


Paul thinks there other forms of bacterial over growth beyond D-Lactic and its metabolites - that research needs to be done so others can get diagnosis and treatment
 

 
Research
 


Increased d-lactic Acid intestinal bacteria in patients with chronic fatigue syndrome.


<a href='mailto:www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19567398Fecal'>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19567398Fecal</a>


 


Microbiota Transplantation for Fibromyalgia: A Case Report and Review of the Literature


<a href='mailto:www.researchgate.net/publication/316564507_Fecal_Microbiota_Transplantation_for_Fibromyalgia_A_Case_Report_and_Review_of_the_LiteratureMislabeling'>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316564507_Fecal_Microbiota_Transplantation_for_Fibromyalgia_A_Case_Report_and_Review_of_the_LiteratureMislabeling</a>


 


Medical Illness As Mental Disorder


<a href='https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/dsm5-in-distress/201301/bad-news-dsm-5-refuses-correct-somatic-symptom-disorder'>https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/dsm5-in-distress/201301/bad-news-dsm-5-refuses-correct-somatic-symptom-disorder</a>
 
_____________________
 

 
Scott Simpson - counsellor and podcast host
 
<a href='https://remediescounseling.com'> Remedies Counseling - Making Life Better</a>
 
 




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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Paul Smith, an artist and self-described workaholic, for years experienced weird and increasingly debilitating symptoms, that would come for periods of time and mostly or completely dissipate.
Flu like symptoms, abdominal pain, muscle weakness, confusion - problems with his vision speech and balance - breathing problems where felt like he was suffocating
These symptoms were so intense that at times Paul felt like he was going to die, and so he wrote letters to his children.
Doctors dismissed his symptoms. Doctors labeled Paul with a somatization diagnosis, basically saying he wasn’t physically sick, just mentally. 
For years, every doctor Paul went to about his debilitating physical symptoms would see the somatization diagnosis on the front page of his medical record, and dismiss Paul’s symptoms as being in his head.
Then Paul developed a massive abscess next to his bowel and developed life threatening sepsis. The doctors couldn’t dismiss those facts. Paul received antibiotics for the sepsis and his other symptoms disappeared.
Yet when that treatment ended and Paul fell sick again, the somatization diagnosis preceded him to every doctor and once they saw that label, any of Paul’s physical symptoms were dismissed. 
But Paul did not give up. Eventually he found a couple of doctors - his ‘heroes’ - and he was finally and correctly - after 20+ years since the symptoms started - diagnosed with D-Lactic Acidosis, which is an over growth of bacteria in the gut, flooding Paul’s body with its neurotoxin.
Paul thinks many other people with other diagnosis like ME/CFS or somatization, may also have bacterial over growth in their guts.
Paul had to fight for years to get the harmful somatization label taken out his medical file. That label prevented Paul from receiving appropriate medical testing and treatment for years and Paul contends that the somatization diagnosis is in effect, a human rights violation.

SHOW NOTES
Fit, healthy and productive until...

0:06:45


Paul - very health child in Cheltenham (UK) - not into sport during school, but got into weight lifting as an adult - went to a very good school, good teachers


0:08:15


Studied art, European history, and sociology, A Level - later in his 30s did his degree in Fine Art, sculpture - but got an electronics job out of school - Foundation course important


0:10:45


After college started to have problems for the first time - different ways Paul could have developed chronic fatigue or ME (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis) leading to D-Lactic Acidosis because he re-built 3 houses and exposed to pesticides - when he got really ill in early 90s - sprayed his loft with pesticides and that's when he had problems from that point - started cleaing up the loft space - had been treated many time over the years


0:11:45


House built in 1840s so lots spraying - when Paul got a broom to sweep up dust and debris he immediately fell ill - also using NSAIDs (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug) during this period - symptoms fatigue, muscle pain - abnormal fatigue after activity - NSAIDs affect mucosal lining of gut and healing of gut - inhibit different synthesis - taking NSAIDs during working, rebuilding house, and working out


0:13:55


Bit of workaholic - damaged both shoulders and collapse a disc - at this point encountered the pesticides - a number of things contributing to his illness - using NSAIDs to push through and mask the pain


0:15:15


Developed bowel perforation with sepsis with D-Lactic Acidosis symptoms: overgrowth of bacteria in the small intestine - sounds benign but isn't - Paul thinks there are many different types of bacterial overgrowth - like IBS - gut bacteria produce metabolites like D Lactic Acid - produces a neurotoxin D-Lactin would explain neurological symptoms in a lot of people


0:17:15


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Antidepressants are dispensed by doctors like a cure-all candy. In the United States, about 11% of the population is taking an antidepressant. It is a booming business for big pharma.</p>
<p>What the medical system rarely talks about is how some people become brain injured - sometimes permanently - from the toxic effects of the medication - this is called neurotoxicity, or Toxic Encephalopathy.</p>
<p>In this episode of Medical Error Interviews, I chat with “Conrad” about how he went from a physically fit father with a very successful career, to a victim that has been disabled by medical error, ignorance and ego.</p>
<p>Conrad’s doctor dismissed his reports of side effects from the medication, erroneously attributing them to anxiety, and instead doubled Conrad’s dose. This would prove to be catastrophic to Conrad’s long term health.</p>
<p>“Conrad” is not his real name, he is using a pseudonym to protect himself from further harm by the medical industry. But his experience should be a warning for any one who has been prescribed an antidepressant.</p>
<p></p>
<p>SHOW NOTES: Conrad: Neurotoxicity - brain injury caused by antidepressant</p>
<p>Conrad - physically fit father with successful career</p>

5:00


"Conrad" (a pseudonym to protect his identity from further medical harm) grew up in Chicago - fantastic childhood - a lot of friends, not the best student, but into sports, typical boy in 70s and 80s


6:00


Graduated high school 1985 - went to college, more playing less studying - very social guy, built friendships and relationships - decided didn't need to finish college and would go into sales


7:00


Started simple phone sales, but quickly into technology and telecommunications during the tech boom - worked for <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCI_Inc.'>MCI</a> - went into software industry in the 90s for several years - evolved into IT consulting up to 2015 - focusing on outsourcing, working for 3rd largest consulting company in the world until became disabled in 2015.


8:15


In 2006, traveling more due to job advancement - never a fan of turbulence, make him uneasy - at that time only psychiatrists could prescribe a <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor'>SSRI medication antidepressant</a> - Conrad took the medication, not sure the medication helped, but getting used to frequency of flying helped - continued to progress in sales career until 2015 as mid-level sales executive specializing in outsourcing


10:40


In 2015 started struggling with his health - in and out of emergency rooms - at one point ER docs thought he had a stroke - ran a bunch of tests and got a diagnosis of <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia'>hyponatremia</a> - also known as <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndrome_of_inappropriate_antidiuretic_hormone_secretion'>SIADH</a> - occurs mid-life with brain injuries - as an adverse effect of an SSRI or antidepressant - it is salt balancing in the brain and can cause a lot of neurological problems


11:30


His doctor told Conrad to stop antidepressant as they concluded it was causing his symptoms - stopped in SSRI mid 2015, but symptoms did not go away, they were chronic - hyponatremia is well known side effect of SSRI


12:40


Conrad experienced headaches, balance issues, confusion, a general unwell feeling - not enough to disable, but indication of what the medication was doing to Conrad - started the med in 2006 - but the side effects had been building the last few years


13:45


Stopped the med and struggled for a few months with the <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia'>hyponatremia</a> symptoms - Conrad had been offered the perfect job for his skills, and was the cieling in his career, with good salary and bonus structure - went to his PCP (Primary Care Physician) to get better and fix what was going on with medical issues - PCP suggested going back on the SSRI
 

 
 
Hyponatremia Symptoms
 


15:00


This is the point where story gets a lot worse - Conrad not sure why he's prescribed antidepressant for anxiety (flying, speaking in front of large audience) - but he trusts the doctor - also gave him <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine'>benzos</a> and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alprazolam'>Xanax</a> for those extra bumpy flights which he never took


16:20


Re-started SSRI meds, but this time the previous hyponatremia symptoms much worse - severe headaches, agitation type anxiety, severe exhaustion, insomnia - like being plugged into electrical outlet - called PCP's nurse to say something is not right with this med - she asked doctor and called Conrad back and cussed him out, saying these were normal side effects, you're dealing with anxiety and, as per the doctor, you need to double your dose.


17:45


So PCP ignored adverse effects and instead doubled the dose - within 24 hours, the headache was "unbelievable", like a "vise grip around my skull" - Conrad has worked out every day for 35 years - so thought he could sweat out the toxicity by going to the gym


19:15


Backing out of garage took off antenna and garage door, so working out wasn't a good idea - because confused, cognitive impairment - went back to doctor - experiencing adverse chemical effect causing anxiety - the doctor says Conrad cast too complex, but doesn't admit the SSRI is causing problems - suggested a psychiatrist


20:30


Conrad went to the psychiatrist and within 5 minutes she diagnosed him with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_disorder'>panic disorder</a> - she ignored all the physical symptoms and only concentrated on the one emotional symptom of anxiety - made a ridiculous statement like 'you're revisiting your mother's death in the 1990s' - so now being misdiagnosed with a mental health illness he didn't have


21:45


Conrad had to turn down the job offer because he still couldn't work so had to go on disability for 'anxiety disorder' - continued to see doctors to find out what was physically wrong - was diagnosed with <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>chronic fatigue syndrome</a>, with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibromyalgia'>fibromyalgia</a> - but these were symptoms of something more complex


22:45


All the doctors in the medical group wanted nothing to do with questioning SSRI medication, they would end the appointment, did not want to talk about it - so they tested for MS (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_sclerosis'>Multiple Sclerosis</a>), and they found brain lesions but classified as 'unspecified medical condition' on <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_resonance_imaging'>MRI</a> report, and not consistent with MS - when Conrad said that SSRI can cause brain lesions, but the doctors are rejecting it and say can't help you
 

 
 
Toxic Encephalopathy
 


24:00


Kicked off disability - now no way to support family, children - kept researching online and found condition called '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotoxicity'>neurotoxicity</a>' also called '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_encephalopathy'>toxic encephalopathy</a>' - can be caused by meds - Conrad starts looking for specialist - but also wanted more imaging before seeing specialist - suggested a brain <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-photon_emission_computed_tomography'>Spect scan</a> that showed low blood flow and toxic neuro inflammatory process in every lobe of his brain


25:30


Got <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_electroencephalography'>QEEG</a> results indicated brain injury - so Conrad had 3 images showing dysfunction - indicating neuro toxicity - at this point couldn't operate car, read books, follow tv, pay the bills, fatigue, weakness - Conrad had stopped the SSRI shortly after seeing the psychiatrist, but on the advice of another doctor - so was on the SSRI for 2 months


27:00


Flew for appointment with famous forensic neuropsychologist / neurotoxicologist <a href='http://www.neurotox.com/about.php'>Dr Raymond Singer</a>, studies the effect of chemicals on the nervous system - his research had found SSRI can cause side effects - he used more objective evidence and full medical background review, tested Conrad for malingering and was able to prove that Conrad had a toxic exposure


28:30


Found that Conrad had extreme deficits in information processing, short term memory impacted and executive functioning impacted - but Conrad's speech and long term memory not affected - but can't watch movie, or drive car - consistent with neurotoxicity - 16 hours of evaluation by Dr Singer and Conrad was diagnosed with toxic encephalopathy and medication induced major neurocognitive disorder


31:00


Fatigue and pain symptoms affect entire nervous system - validation by Dr Singer's report was huge, concluded Conrad was disabled from employment - his insurance reinstated his disability payments, a huge stress relief


33:00


Today Conrad's symptoms are worse because the condition has progressed - has to go for re-testing with Dr Singer to measure Conrad's changes - also sees MD who treats holistically with symptoms


34:30


Nothing helps alleviate his symptoms of headache and cognitive impairment, fatigue and pain - impacts every area of his life: physically, emotionally, financially, relationships - disability only pays a fraction of what he used to earn - can't hop in the car to visit his children, can't work out, can't walk the dog, can't read books, can't watch tv - has been trying to spread awareness
 

 
Data Shows the Danger
 


36:00


Frustrated with the medical community - there are 1000s of people who have been affected by medications, but rejected and denied by their doctors - they are heavily influenced by the pharmaceuticcal industry - as a result they are not supporting their patients - they don't know what drugs do


37:30


From Conrad's research, psychiatric medications are the most dangerous - they cause <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia'>dementia</a>, neurotoxicity - just about all of the do - suicide is a black box warning on some - antibiotics and statins can be dangerous - certain classes more dangerous than others - if people looked at independent research journals, not funded by the pharmaceutical industry, they would find that data showing the danger


39:45


Conrad says when he got sick 6 years ago, there was no information on the internet regarding damaging effects, now there is an article every day - overwhelming info just on the SSRI class of meds - opening people's eyes how the pharmaceutical and medical industries operate, and work too closely - because of social media, things can change, people are becoming more aware


41:30


Re class action lawsuits, but it is very difficult for a small law firm to go up against a large pharma - but hard to build momentum, but gaining ground - but there are whistleblower doctors writing books showing brain imaging and linking them to mitochondria damage, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, neurotoxicity - doctors from each drug class are coming forward


43:00


But for lawyers it very hard to win - expensive, $100k just for discovery in a lawsuit - there is also statute of limitations for suing a doctor, and that limit is 2 years - Conrad was diagnosed more than 2 years after he was injured - this is the dance doctors do - doctors don't want to say a drug caused an injury, they don't want to get into conflict with their colleague - there is some code going on there, that leaves people very vulnerable


45:00


The trauma of his symptoms was deepened by the way the medical system responded - when a doctor denies symptoms or side effects it causes stress - and when they do harm, they don't stand behind it - there are 1000s that have been harmed and doctors have turned their back on them
 

 
 
Conrad Hopes for Recovery
 


46:20


Conrad lives day to day, trying to get better - working with a physician familiar toxic encephalopathy and praying - she says Conrad is permanently disabled, but he's hoping there is something - people talk about hyperbaric, maybe stem cells someday - he's optimistic - but there is not a pill that will fix what he has, it was a pill that got him here


47:10


Conrad was perfectly healthy before he went to the pyschiatrist - was not in habit of going to the doctor - even when his nose was broken - and when he finally started to go to a doctor, they gave him a pill that made him chronically ill - sometimes its best to stay out of the doctor's office


48:30


Conrad says even the warning inserts with medications only list the mild side effects, they don't mention neurotoxicity, toxic encephalopathy or brain damage unless the <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration'>FDA</a> tells them to


50:00


Dealing with grief is hard - personal relationships affected - can't go out and have a beer with friends, can't go to football game - misses his sons the most, they were his best friends, they did so much together - they won't understand until they're adults - but hopes one day they read the 73 page report that shows exactly what happened to him


51:10


Raising awareness is one way Conrad deals with grief - talking to his sons, and seeing them doing well in school and activities is what he looks forward to - prays one day the will understand how this missed out on their highly functioning father


52:30


Conrad says if you suspect you have this injury, they should contact Dr Raymond Singer if the prescribing doctor is pushing back - Dr Singer is like <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich'>Erin Brockovich</a>, he's involved in testifying in court cases representing people injured by chemicals - he can making diagnosis, and that will get respect from other doctors and they won't say its a mental illness - doctors are our equal - used to think doctors are above us


54:00


Doctors know their field, but they do not know medications - and if they're telling you something you don't agree with, push back, do your own research, and stand up for yourself
 
 










<p>Connecting</p>
<p> </p>

Conrad on Twitter:
 


<a href='https://twitter.com/SSRI_Injured'>@SSRI_Injured</a> - Pharma Harmed/ Drug Safety Advocate


 


 
Facebook awareness groups:
 


<a href='https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Pharmaceuticals/Pharmaceuticals-Exposed-2190357077920153/'>Pharmaceuticals Exposed</a>


<a href='https://www.facebook.com/Legaldeath/?ref=br_rs'>Legal Death-In Drugs We Trust</a>


 
 
Neurotoxicity from <a href='http://nih.gov/'>NIH.gov</a>:


 


<a href='mailto:www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/all-disorders/neurotoxicity-information-page'>https://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/all-disorders/neurotoxicity-information-page</a>


 


Research:
 
<a href='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5347943/'>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5347943/</a>
 

<p><a href='https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/All-Disorders/Encephalopathy-Information-Page'>https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/All-Disorders/Encephalopathy-Information-Page</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href='https://www.verywellmind.com/medication-or-substance-induced-neurocognitive-disorder-4144778'>https://www.verywellmind.com/medication-or-substance-induced-neurocognitive-disorder-4144778</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3334530/'>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3334530/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27508501/'>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27508501/</a></p>



 

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<p>Medical Errors Interview podcast host Scott Simpson and counsellor at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>RemediesCounseling.com</a></p>
<p>A safe space for victims and survivors of medical error.</p>
<p>     </p>
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<p>What the medical system rarely talks about is how some people become brain injured - sometimes permanently - from the toxic effects of the medication - this is called neurotoxicity, or Toxic Encephalopathy.</p>
<p>In this episode of Medical Error Interviews, I chat with “Conrad” about how he went from a physically fit father with a very successful career, to a victim that has been disabled by medical error, ignorance and ego.</p>
<p>Conrad’s doctor dismissed his reports of side effects from the medication, erroneously attributing them to anxiety, and instead doubled Conrad’s dose. This would prove to be catastrophic to Conrad’s long term health.</p>
<p>“Conrad” is not his real name, he is using a pseudonym to protect himself from further harm by the medical industry. But his experience should be a warning for any one who has been prescribed an antidepressant.</p>
<p></p>
<p>SHOW NOTES: Conrad: Neurotoxicity - brain injury caused by antidepressant</p>
<p>Conrad - physically fit father with successful career</p>

5:00


"Conrad" (a pseudonym to protect his identity from further medical harm) grew up in Chicago - fantastic childhood - a lot of friends, not the best student, but into sports, typical boy in 70s and 80s


6:00


Graduated high school 1985 - went to college, more playing less studying - very social guy, built friendships and relationships - decided didn't need to finish college and would go into sales


7:00


Started simple phone sales, but quickly into technology and telecommunications during the tech boom - worked for <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCI_Inc.'>MCI</a> - went into software industry in the 90s for several years - evolved into IT consulting up to 2015 - focusing on outsourcing, working for 3rd largest consulting company in the world until became disabled in 2015.


8:15


In 2006, traveling more due to job advancement - never a fan of turbulence, make him uneasy - at that time only psychiatrists could prescribe a <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor'>SSRI medication antidepressant</a> - Conrad took the medication, not sure the medication helped, but getting used to frequency of flying helped - continued to progress in sales career until 2015 as mid-level sales executive specializing in outsourcing


10:40


In 2015 started struggling with his health - in and out of emergency rooms - at one point ER docs thought he had a stroke - ran a bunch of tests and got a diagnosis of <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia'>hyponatremia</a> - also known as <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndrome_of_inappropriate_antidiuretic_hormone_secretion'>SIADH</a> - occurs mid-life with brain injuries - as an adverse effect of an SSRI or antidepressant - it is salt balancing in the brain and can cause a lot of neurological problems


11:30


His doctor told Conrad to stop antidepressant as they concluded it was causing his symptoms - stopped in SSRI mid 2015, but symptoms did not go away, they were chronic - hyponatremia is well known side effect of SSRI


12:40


Conrad experienced headaches, balance issues, confusion, a general unwell feeling - not enough to disable, but indication of what the medication was doing to Conrad - started the med in 2006 - but the side effects had been building the last few years


13:45


Stopped the med and struggled for a few months with the <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia'>hyponatremia</a> symptoms - Conrad had been offered the perfect job for his skills, and was the cieling in his career, with good salary and bonus structure - went to his PCP (Primary Care Physician) to get better and fix what was going on with medical issues - PCP suggested going back on the SSRI
 

 
 
Hyponatremia Symptoms
 


15:00


This is the point where story gets a lot worse - Conrad not sure why he's prescribed antidepressant for anxiety (flying, speaking in front of large audience) - but he trusts the doctor - also gave him <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine'>benzos</a> and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alprazolam'>Xanax</a> for those extra bumpy flights which he never took


16:20


Re-started SSRI meds, but this time the previous hyponatremia symptoms much worse - severe headaches, agitation type anxiety, severe exhaustion, insomnia - like being plugged into electrical outlet - called PCP's nurse to say something is not right with this med - she asked doctor and called Conrad back and cussed him out, saying these were normal side effects, you're dealing with anxiety and, as per the doctor, you need to double your dose.


17:45


So PCP ignored adverse effects and instead doubled the dose - within 24 hours, the headache was "unbelievable", like a "vise grip around my skull" - Conrad has worked out every day for 35 years - so thought he could sweat out the toxicity by going to the gym


19:15


Backing out of garage took off antenna and garage door, so working out wasn't a good idea - because confused, cognitive impairment - went back to doctor - experiencing adverse chemical effect causing anxiety - the doctor says Conrad cast too complex, but doesn't admit the SSRI is causing problems - suggested a psychiatrist


20:30


Conrad went to the psychiatrist and within 5 minutes she diagnosed him with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_disorder'>panic disorder</a> - she ignored all the physical symptoms and only concentrated on the one emotional symptom of anxiety - made a ridiculous statement like 'you're revisiting your mother's death in the 1990s' - so now being misdiagnosed with a mental health illness he didn't have


21:45


Conrad had to turn down the job offer because he still couldn't work so had to go on disability for 'anxiety disorder' - continued to see doctors to find out what was physically wrong - was diagnosed with <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>chronic fatigue syndrome</a>, with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibromyalgia'>fibromyalgia</a> - but these were symptoms of something more complex


22:45


All the doctors in the medical group wanted nothing to do with questioning SSRI medication, they would end the appointment, did not want to talk about it - so they tested for MS (<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_sclerosis'>Multiple Sclerosis</a>), and they found brain lesions but classified as 'unspecified medical condition' on <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_resonance_imaging'>MRI</a> report, and not consistent with MS - when Conrad said that SSRI can cause brain lesions, but the doctors are rejecting it and say can't help you
 

 
 
Toxic Encephalopathy
 


24:00


Kicked off disability - now no way to support family, children - kept researching online and found condition called '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotoxicity'>neurotoxicity</a>' also called '<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_encephalopathy'>toxic encephalopathy</a>' - can be caused by meds - Conrad starts looking for specialist - but also wanted more imaging before seeing specialist - suggested a brain <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-photon_emission_computed_tomography'>Spect scan</a> that showed low blood flow and toxic neuro inflammatory process in every lobe of his brain


25:30


Got <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_electroencephalography'>QEEG</a> results indicated brain injury - so Conrad had 3 images showing dysfunction - indicating neuro toxicity - at this point couldn't operate car, read books, follow tv, pay the bills, fatigue, weakness - Conrad had stopped the SSRI shortly after seeing the psychiatrist, but on the advice of another doctor - so was on the SSRI for 2 months


27:00


Flew for appointment with famous forensic neuropsychologist / neurotoxicologist <a href='http://www.neurotox.com/about.php'>Dr Raymond Singer</a>, studies the effect of chemicals on the nervous system - his research had found SSRI can cause side effects - he used more objective evidence and full medical background review, tested Conrad for malingering and was able to prove that Conrad had a toxic exposure


28:30


Found that Conrad had extreme deficits in information processing, short term memory impacted and executive functioning impacted - but Conrad's speech and long term memory not affected - but can't watch movie, or drive car - consistent with neurotoxicity - 16 hours of evaluation by Dr Singer and Conrad was diagnosed with toxic encephalopathy and medication induced major neurocognitive disorder


31:00


Fatigue and pain symptoms affect entire nervous system - validation by Dr Singer's report was huge, concluded Conrad was disabled from employment - his insurance reinstated his disability payments, a huge stress relief


33:00


Today Conrad's symptoms are worse because the condition has progressed - has to go for re-testing with Dr Singer to measure Conrad's changes - also sees MD who treats holistically with symptoms


34:30


Nothing helps alleviate his symptoms of headache and cognitive impairment, fatigue and pain - impacts every area of his life: physically, emotionally, financially, relationships - disability only pays a fraction of what he used to earn - can't hop in the car to visit his children, can't work out, can't walk the dog, can't read books, can't watch tv - has been trying to spread awareness
 

 
Data Shows the Danger
 


36:00


Frustrated with the medical community - there are 1000s of people who have been affected by medications, but rejected and denied by their doctors - they are heavily influenced by the pharmaceuticcal industry - as a result they are not supporting their patients - they don't know what drugs do


37:30


From Conrad's research, psychiatric medications are the most dangerous - they cause <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia'>dementia</a>, neurotoxicity - just about all of the do - suicide is a black box warning on some - antibiotics and statins can be dangerous - certain classes more dangerous than others - if people looked at independent research journals, not funded by the pharmaceutical industry, they would find that data showing the danger


39:45


Conrad says when he got sick 6 years ago, there was no information on the internet regarding damaging effects, now there is an article every day - overwhelming info just on the SSRI class of meds - opening people's eyes how the pharmaceutical and medical industries operate, and work too closely - because of social media, things can change, people are becoming more aware


41:30


Re class action lawsuits, but it is very difficult for a small law firm to go up against a large pharma - but hard to build momentum, but gaining ground - but there are whistleblower doctors writing books showing brain imaging and linking them to mitochondria damage, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, neurotoxicity - doctors from each drug class are coming forward


43:00


But for lawyers it very hard to win - expensive, $100k just for discovery in a lawsuit - there is also statute of limitations for suing a doctor, and that limit is 2 years - Conrad was diagnosed more than 2 years after he was injured - this is the dance doctors do - doctors don't want to say a drug caused an injury, they don't want to get into conflict with their colleague - there is some code going on there, that leaves people very vulnerable


45:00


The trauma of his symptoms was deepened by the way the medical system responded - when a doctor denies symptoms or side effects it causes stress - and when they do harm, they don't stand behind it - there are 1000s that have been harmed and doctors have turned their back on them
 

 
 
Conrad Hopes for Recovery
 


46:20


Conrad lives day to day, trying to get better - working with a physician familiar toxic encephalopathy and praying - she says Conrad is permanently disabled, but he's hoping there is something - people talk about hyperbaric, maybe stem cells someday - he's optimistic - but there is not a pill that will fix what he has, it was a pill that got him here


47:10


Conrad was perfectly healthy before he went to the pyschiatrist - was not in habit of going to the doctor - even when his nose was broken - and when he finally started to go to a doctor, they gave him a pill that made him chronically ill - sometimes its best to stay out of the doctor's office


48:30


Conrad says even the warning inserts with medications only list the mild side effects, they don't mention neurotoxicity, toxic encephalopathy or brain damage unless the <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration'>FDA</a> tells them to


50:00


Dealing with grief is hard - personal relationships affected - can't go out and have a beer with friends, can't go to football game - misses his sons the most, they were his best friends, they did so much together - they won't understand until they're adults - but hopes one day they read the 73 page report that shows exactly what happened to him


51:10


Raising awareness is one way Conrad deals with grief - talking to his sons, and seeing them doing well in school and activities is what he looks forward to - prays one day the will understand how this missed out on their highly functioning father


52:30


Conrad says if you suspect you have this injury, they should contact Dr Raymond Singer if the prescribing doctor is pushing back - Dr Singer is like <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich'>Erin Brockovich</a>, he's involved in testifying in court cases representing people injured by chemicals - he can making diagnosis, and that will get respect from other doctors and they won't say its a mental illness - doctors are our equal - used to think doctors are above us


54:00


Doctors know their field, but they do not know medications - and if they're telling you something you don't agree with, push back, do your own research, and stand up for yourself
 
 










<p>Connecting</p>
<p> </p>

Conrad on Twitter:
 


<a href='https://twitter.com/SSRI_Injured'>@SSRI_Injured</a> - Pharma Harmed/ Drug Safety Advocate


 


 
Facebook awareness groups:
 


<a href='https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Pharmaceuticals/Pharmaceuticals-Exposed-2190357077920153/'>Pharmaceuticals Exposed</a>


<a href='https://www.facebook.com/Legaldeath/?ref=br_rs'>Legal Death-In Drugs We Trust</a>


 
 
Neurotoxicity from <a href='http://nih.gov/'>NIH.gov</a>:


 


<a href='mailto:www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/all-disorders/neurotoxicity-information-page'>https://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/all-disorders/neurotoxicity-information-page</a>


 


Research:
 
<a href='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5347943/'>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5347943/</a>
 

<p><a href='https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/All-Disorders/Encephalopathy-Information-Page'>https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/All-Disorders/Encephalopathy-Information-Page</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href='https://www.verywellmind.com/medication-or-substance-induced-neurocognitive-disorder-4144778'>https://www.verywellmind.com/medication-or-substance-induced-neurocognitive-disorder-4144778</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3334530/'>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3334530/</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27508501/'>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27508501/</a></p>



 

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<p>Medical Errors Interview podcast host Scott Simpson and counsellor at <a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>RemediesCounseling.com</a></p>
<p>A safe space for victims and survivors of medical error.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Antidepressants are dispensed by doctors like a cure-all candy. In the United States, about 11% of the population is taking an antidepressant. It is a booming business for big pharma.
What the medical system rarely talks about is how some people become brain injured - sometimes permanently - from the toxic effects of the medication - this is called neurotoxicity, or Toxic Encephalopathy.
In this episode of Medical Error Interviews, I chat with “Conrad” about how he went from a physically fit father with a very successful career, to a victim that has been disabled by medical error, ignorance and ego.
Conrad’s doctor dismissed his reports of side effects from the medication, erroneously attributing them to anxiety, and instead doubled Conrad’s dose. This would prove to be catastrophic to Conrad’s long term health.
“Conrad” is not his real name, he is using a pseudonym to protect himself from further harm by the medical industry. But his experience should be a warning for any one who has been prescribed an antidepressant.

SHOW NOTES: Conrad: Neurotoxicity - brain injury caused by antidepressant
Conrad - physically fit father with successful career

5:00


"Conrad" (a pseudonym to protect his identity from further medical harm) grew up in Chicago - fantastic childhood - a lot of friends, not the best student, but into sports, typical boy in 70s and 80s


6:00


Graduated high school 1985 - went to college, more playing less studying - very social guy, built friendships and relationships - decided didn't need to finish college and would go into sales


7:00


Started simple phone sales, but quickly into technology and telecommunications during the tech boom - worked for MCI - went into software industry in the 90s for several years - evolved into IT consulting up to 2015 - focusing on outsourcing, working for 3rd largest consulting company in the world until became disabled in 2015.


8:15


In 2006, traveling more due to job advancement - never a fan of turbulence, make him uneasy - at that time only psychiatrists could prescribe a SSRI medication antidepressant - Conrad took the medication, not sure the medication helped, but getting used to frequency of flying helped - continued to progress in sales career until 2015 as mid-level sales executive specializing in outsourcing


10:40


In 2015 started struggling with his health - in and out of emergency rooms - at one point ER docs thought he had a stroke - ran a bunch of tests and got a diagnosis of hyponatremia - also known as SIADH - occurs mid-life with brain injuries - as an adverse effect of an SSRI or antidepressant - it is salt balancing in the brain and can cause a lot of neurological problems


11:30


His doctor told Conrad to stop antidepressant as they concluded it was causing his symptoms - stopped in SSRI mid 2015, but symptoms did not go away, they were chronic - hyponatremia is well known side effect of SSRI


12:40


Conrad experienced headaches, balance issues, confusion, a general unwell feeling - not enough to disable, but indication of what the medication was doing to Conrad - started the med in 2006 - but the side effects had been building the last few years


13:45


Stopped the med and struggled for a few months with the hyponatremia symptoms - Conrad had been offered the perfect job for his skills, and was the cieling in his career, with good salary and bonus structure - went to his PCP (Primary Care Physician) to get better and fix what was going on with medical issues - PCP suggested going back on the SSRI
 

 
 
Hyponatremia Symptoms
 


15:00


This is the point where story gets a lot worse - Conrad not sure why he's prescribed antidepressant for anxiety (flying, speaking in front of large audience) - but he trusts the doctor - also gave him benzos and Xanax for those extra bumpy flights which he never took


16:20


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        <title>Felicia Mahmoud - White Coat Terror Victim</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I interview Felicia Mahmoud, from Indiana in the US. Felicia’s story begins with a minor injury from her athletic lifestyle.</p>
<p>Now imagine you’re Felicia - and you’re having very minor surgery on one of your ankles to remove a suspected cyst, a small pimple size cyst.</p>
<p>Unusually, there is a medical device sales rep observing your non-medical device surgery.</p>
<p>Imagine you wake to find the doctor has cut away a huge chunk of your calf muscle. On both legs.</p>
<p>Imagine you find out the doctor has implanted mesh devices in both your legs. Devices that were not designed to be inside the human body.</p>
<p>How would you feel? Betrayed? Angry? Frightened? Maybe all that and more.</p>
<p>I recently chatted with Felicia about her experience and how she’s dealing with the aftermath.</p>
<p>Watch the video version by being a Premium Patron: <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>https://www.patreon.com/MedicalErrorInterviews</a></p>
<p>A caution that some may find Felicia’s health care experiences distressing.</p>
<p><a href='https://twitter.com/whitecoatterror'>Felicia's twitter images</a>:</p>
<p>    </p>
<p> </p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Felicia: Personal Trainer with Athletic Injury </p>
<p>4:30</p>
<p>Felicia was very active - got her degree in Exercise Science, then Personal Training Certification with <a href='https://www.acsm.org/'>American College of Sports Medicine</a> - working at a gym - 2 year old daughter - ended up getting an injury common to athletes called <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compartment_syndrome'>Compartment Syndrome</a> (CS) - a condition common in endurance athletes, a vascular condition - like an over-blowen tire, usually bilaterally in both legs</p>

6:30


Pressure in muscle compartment, causes swelling, can cause nerve damage if not treated - 2 versions of CS in athletes: acute and chronic - acute can be life and limb threatening, but athletes usually get the chronic version - usually reversible with simple procedure - Felicia symptoms were tightness, pain, pinched nerve - hard to stand for even 10 minutes, otherwise a lot of leg pain - believe damage was too tight roller blades
 


8:00


Can take 1 - 2 years to get diagnosis - pressure testing for diagnosis of CS - Felicia had very high pressure indicating CS
 


9:00


Treatment is like peeling an orange and the thin white skin is like the fascia covering the muscle - procedure is to make a small slit in the fascia to relieve the pressure - reversible condition, 90% success rate - Initially (before CS diagnosis), Felicia had small pimple size point of pain on her leg - thought it may be a small cyst - found a doctor that agreed
 


10:45


Doctor / podiatrist has Felicia in for surgery for cyst removal - but had not been diagnosed with CS yet, assuming this 'cyst' is causing all her leg pain, just above her ankle - Felicia found out later that he didn't even think she had a cyst - also found out later that a 'mesh wound care vendor' was at her surgery and wondered why a sales rep would attend her surgery?
 


12:15


Day of surgery, Felicia asked to sign 2 forms: one for cyst surgery, and one for sales rep to attend surgery - Felicia read the form and it didn't say any thing about changing or implanting any thing, just that he would be in the room - Felicia reinforced that she was just there for the small cyst removal - nurses put Xs under procedure line so that nothing could be added later - witnessed by hospital nurse
 


13:50


Felicia confirmed that they were not doing any thing beyond cyst removal and the doctor nodded his head, but glared at her - Felicia's husband noticed and said to her 'you're making him mad' - Felicia thought she could walk out, but already in gown, and lots of people, what could go wrong?
 

Felicia's leg 2 days before surgery
 
 
Minor Surgery. Major Assault
 


14:30


In the small print of the form it says that nothing could be done without her consent unless life threatening emergency - Felicia walks up from surgery and half of her calve is missing, a health muscle, on both legs - doctor said it was his opinion the muscles were too big, so he cut them down
 


15:30


There were 2 surgeries - and the mesh product has been implanted in both legs - gets more creepier and bizarre - there is a hole in her leg - but has 2 incisions in her leg so that he can charge her insurance more for additional surgery - he doesn't get paid extra if he uses same incision - Felicia assumes he cut her other leg so he could charge for that as well
 


18:30


The surgery he performed doesn't really exist - at home Felicia could see all the incisions, called to the hospital immediately, and in a lot of pain - the hospital put the doctor on the phone and he was nasty to her - told her to schedule an appointment to discuss what he did and if she'll recover - 2 days later she met with the doctor and he had his nurse in the room to intimidate
 


20:30


Felicia asked her husband to turn on his audio recorder - doctor lied to saying Felicia has accessory muscle - justified surgery since Felicia is young and fit and would heal quickly - but weeks later having a problem with one leg where mesh was implanted - he started acting bizarre and wanted to remove it in his office
 


22:00


He seemed very impulsive, intimidating at times - Felicia called hospitals to say she wasn't comfortable with this doctor, but because post-operative care is free, no other doctor wanted to take over her case and not get paid - so she had to keep going back to this doctor - Felicia couldn't find the procedure he performed on her - he just made it up - even the product he put in her leg, is only supposed to be used topically, not intended to be used - or sold - for under the skin
 


24:30


Felicia continues to have problems - the doctor could be charming, maintain composure, but a convincing liar - sounds like he's very caring, but its false - she believes he's an expert con artist - probably done it to other patients
 


26:00


Felicia asked for physical therapist, but he says no - but he writes in his report that she declined conservative treatment - but Felicia was recording the convo - there was no antibiotics, or steroids to treat a reaction to the mesh - no imaging or blood test to diagnose reaction to the mesh - Felicia still believing he knows what he's doing at this point and he schedules her for another surgery
 

Felicia's leg after surgery
 
 
Experimental Guinea Pig
 


27:00


Surgery to remove mesh from one leg and will improve scar tissue - she comes out of surgery with a carving in her leg the shape of the implant - a perfect square - she thinks he carved square into her leg as way to punish her - Felician finds out the mesh is a bovine product that can't even be removed
 


28:20


Felicia asks for pathology report, but there wasn't one - he didn't send any thing to pathology - no record of any thing removed - she questions his behaviour - perhaps he's a sociopath
 


30:00


Felicia had been complaining to the hospital about the doctor - she didn't know the hospital was telling him she was complaining - hospital kept defending the doctor
 


31:00


Felicia asked for copy of consent form - but the copy in her chart is blank, only the doctor's signature, not her signature - Felicia recalled that the nurse had a funny look on her face just before surgery - Felicia suspects the doctor switched the consent forms to include an option to remove muscle - nurse held the form up for Felicia to see but not hold, placed it down and left the room - the doctor comes in and proceeds with surgery
 


33:15


When Felicia awakens she finds she has carvings in her leg - Felicia since asked herself: Why didn't the nurse hand her the form?
 


35:00


Felicia has an attorney - Felicia is convinced the doctor did it intentionally so hard for lawyers to understand his motive to intentionally harm - but turns out the doctor has other lawsuit against him for doing procedures outside the scope of his practice
 


36:00


The doctor contends he removed extra muscle and Felician questioned if it was due to Compartment Syndrome, as that would explain the swelling - the doctor admits that he considered CS - Felicia asks herself, but not the doctor, why he didn't do the standard CS procedure
 


37:00


The attorney was also baffled why a doctor would do something like that - he ripped out healthy muscle of a young and athletic woman - operated on both legs with multiple incisions - Felician feels violated and has launched a lawsuit
 


39:30


Doctor has been in practice over 30 years - but no reviews online when Felicia researched him before surgery - no indication or warning flags - she thinks he should be in jail
 
 

Compartment Syndrome (CS)
 
 
Intentional Harm. No Error Here.
 


40:50


Terrifying waking up every day - emotional toll - frequent nightmares - every day is a reminder of disabling surgery for nothing - did finally get proper CS surgery, but still dealing with aftermath from harmful surgery 
 
41:50


Felicia not sure if mesh is actually taken out - but the doctor had to have intentionally done something to make the square shape in her leg
 


43:00


Because mesh was made topically, not under the skin, so long term effects of mesh not known - doctor was trying to make a sale
 


44:10


Subsequent surgery has repaired some of the damage - but if had proper CS surgery she wouldn't be missing muscle and have tendon surgery - but has permanent disfigurement to her legs, pain every day, can walk, but cannot stand in one place for long - cannot do personal training business - instability in ankle muscles is ongoing concern - can only do sit down jobs now
 


46:30


Felicia says that if a shark bite part of her leg off she could accept it, but to be a medical experiment causes anger - "who does he think he is?"
 


48:00


Felicia feels angry - was also hard for her husband to initially understand the doctor would do such intentional harm
 


49:30


Dehumanizing to take part of a person without their consent - hospital tries to shut down her complaint, dismiss it - the doctor still working there - maybe his reputation takes a hit, but they manipulate the online reviews
 


51:00


Felicia advocates on social media - but hard to be advocate and traumatized person at the same time - but thinks it takes a lot of people getting the message out in different ways - still a long way to go, but getting some momentum
 


53:00


Surprised nobody talking about this issue online - not much about fraud and abusing patients, vs framing as an error or mistake - Felicia wants to bring about accountability
 


54:45


Compares driving a vehicle responsibility same as surgery responsibility, but the system does not treat them the same - should be criminal negligence in her case - not just a small fine for the harm they've done. 
 

Medical abuse = criminal negligence?
 
 
I checked in with Felicia a few days ago.
 


Felicia writes:


 


The injury is actually worse now as when they tried to remove it (scar tissue) nerve damage occurred. 


 


But my original injury the compartment syndrome is reversed but I’m left with the damage he caused.


 


I actually close my eyes every time I open my twitter page so I don’t have to see what happened to my legs because they look totally mutilated.


 


You can connect with Felicia on twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/whitecoatterror'>@WhiteCoatTerror</a>  End White Coat Worship 




 
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I interview Felicia Mahmoud, from Indiana in the US. Felicia’s story begins with a minor injury from her athletic lifestyle.</p>
<p>Now imagine you’re Felicia - and you’re having very minor surgery on one of your ankles to remove a suspected cyst, a small pimple size cyst.</p>
<p>Unusually, there is a medical device sales rep observing your non-medical device surgery.</p>
<p>Imagine you wake to find the doctor has cut away a huge chunk of your calf muscle. On both legs.</p>
<p>Imagine you find out the doctor has implanted mesh devices in both your legs. Devices that were not designed to be inside the human body.</p>
<p>How would you feel? Betrayed? Angry? Frightened? Maybe all that and more.</p>
<p>I recently chatted with Felicia about her experience and how she’s dealing with the aftermath.</p>
<p>Watch the video version by being a Premium Patron: <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>https://www.patreon.com/MedicalErrorInterviews</a></p>
<p>A caution that some may find Felicia’s health care experiences distressing.</p>
<p><a href='https://twitter.com/whitecoatterror'>Felicia's twitter images</a>:</p>
<p>    </p>
<p> </p>
<p>SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>Felicia: Personal Trainer with Athletic Injury </p>
<p>4:30</p>
<p>Felicia was very active - got her degree in Exercise Science, then Personal Training Certification with <a href='https://www.acsm.org/'>American College of Sports Medicine</a> - working at a gym - 2 year old daughter - ended up getting an injury common to athletes called <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compartment_syndrome'>Compartment Syndrome</a> (CS) - a condition common in endurance athletes, a vascular condition - like an over-blowen tire, usually bilaterally in both legs</p>

6:30


Pressure in muscle compartment, causes swelling, can cause nerve damage if not treated - 2 versions of CS in athletes: acute and chronic - acute can be life and limb threatening, but athletes usually get the chronic version - usually reversible with simple procedure - Felicia symptoms were tightness, pain, pinched nerve - hard to stand for even 10 minutes, otherwise a lot of leg pain - believe damage was too tight roller blades
 


8:00


Can take 1 - 2 years to get diagnosis - pressure testing for diagnosis of CS - Felicia had very high pressure indicating CS
 


9:00


Treatment is like peeling an orange and the thin white skin is like the fascia covering the muscle - procedure is to make a small slit in the fascia to relieve the pressure - reversible condition, 90% success rate - Initially (before CS diagnosis), Felicia had small pimple size point of pain on her leg - thought it may be a small cyst - found a doctor that agreed
 


10:45


Doctor / podiatrist has Felicia in for surgery for cyst removal - but had not been diagnosed with CS yet, assuming this 'cyst' is causing all her leg pain, just above her ankle - Felicia found out later that he didn't even think she had a cyst - also found out later that a 'mesh wound care vendor' was at her surgery and wondered why a sales rep would attend her surgery?
 


12:15


Day of surgery, Felicia asked to sign 2 forms: one for cyst surgery, and one for sales rep to attend surgery - Felicia read the form and it didn't say any thing about changing or implanting any thing, just that he would be in the room - Felicia reinforced that she was just there for the small cyst removal - nurses put Xs under procedure line so that nothing could be added later - witnessed by hospital nurse
 


13:50


Felicia confirmed that they were not doing any thing beyond cyst removal and the doctor nodded his head, but glared at her - Felicia's husband noticed and said to her 'you're making him mad' - Felicia thought she could walk out, but already in gown, and lots of people, what could go wrong?
 

Felicia's leg 2 days before surgery
 
 
Minor Surgery. Major Assault
 


14:30


In the small print of the form it says that nothing could be done without her consent unless life threatening emergency - Felicia walks up from surgery and half of her calve is missing, a health muscle, on both legs - doctor said it was his opinion the muscles were too big, so he cut them down
 


15:30


There were 2 surgeries - and the mesh product has been implanted in both legs - gets more creepier and bizarre - there is a hole in her leg - but has 2 incisions in her leg so that he can charge her insurance more for additional surgery - he doesn't get paid extra if he uses same incision - Felicia assumes he cut her other leg so he could charge for that as well
 


18:30


The surgery he performed doesn't really exist - at home Felicia could see all the incisions, called to the hospital immediately, and in a lot of pain - the hospital put the doctor on the phone and he was nasty to her - told her to schedule an appointment to discuss what he did and if she'll recover - 2 days later she met with the doctor and he had his nurse in the room to intimidate
 


20:30


Felicia asked her husband to turn on his audio recorder - doctor lied to saying Felicia has accessory muscle - justified surgery since Felicia is young and fit and would heal quickly - but weeks later having a problem with one leg where mesh was implanted - he started acting bizarre and wanted to remove it in his office
 


22:00


He seemed very impulsive, intimidating at times - Felicia called hospitals to say she wasn't comfortable with this doctor, but because post-operative care is free, no other doctor wanted to take over her case and not get paid - so she had to keep going back to this doctor - Felicia couldn't find the procedure he performed on her - he just made it up - even the product he put in her leg, is only supposed to be used topically, not intended to be used - or sold - for under the skin
 


24:30


Felicia continues to have problems - the doctor could be charming, maintain composure, but a convincing liar - sounds like he's very caring, but its false - she believes he's an expert con artist - probably done it to other patients
 


26:00


Felicia asked for physical therapist, but he says no - but he writes in his report that she declined conservative treatment - but Felicia was recording the convo - there was no antibiotics, or steroids to treat a reaction to the mesh - no imaging or blood test to diagnose reaction to the mesh - Felicia still believing he knows what he's doing at this point and he schedules her for another surgery
 

Felicia's leg after surgery
 
 
Experimental Guinea Pig
 


27:00


Surgery to remove mesh from one leg and will improve scar tissue - she comes out of surgery with a carving in her leg the shape of the implant - a perfect square - she thinks he carved square into her leg as way to punish her - Felician finds out the mesh is a bovine product that can't even be removed
 


28:20


Felicia asks for pathology report, but there wasn't one - he didn't send any thing to pathology - no record of any thing removed - she questions his behaviour - perhaps he's a sociopath
 


30:00


Felicia had been complaining to the hospital about the doctor - she didn't know the hospital was telling him she was complaining - hospital kept defending the doctor
 


31:00


Felicia asked for copy of consent form - but the copy in her chart is blank, only the doctor's signature, not her signature - Felicia recalled that the nurse had a funny look on her face just before surgery - Felicia suspects the doctor switched the consent forms to include an option to remove muscle - nurse held the form up for Felicia to see but not hold, placed it down and left the room - the doctor comes in and proceeds with surgery
 


33:15


When Felicia awakens she finds she has carvings in her leg - Felicia since asked herself: Why didn't the nurse hand her the form?
 


35:00


Felicia has an attorney - Felicia is convinced the doctor did it intentionally so hard for lawyers to understand his motive to intentionally harm - but turns out the doctor has other lawsuit against him for doing procedures outside the scope of his practice
 


36:00


The doctor contends he removed extra muscle and Felician questioned if it was due to Compartment Syndrome, as that would explain the swelling - the doctor admits that he considered CS - Felicia asks herself, but not the doctor, why he didn't do the standard CS procedure
 


37:00


The attorney was also baffled why a doctor would do something like that - he ripped out healthy muscle of a young and athletic woman - operated on both legs with multiple incisions - Felician feels violated and has launched a lawsuit
 


39:30


Doctor has been in practice over 30 years - but no reviews online when Felicia researched him before surgery - no indication or warning flags - she thinks he should be in jail
 
 

Compartment Syndrome (CS)
 
 
Intentional Harm. No Error Here.
 


40:50


Terrifying waking up every day - emotional toll - frequent nightmares - every day is a reminder of disabling surgery for nothing - did finally get proper CS surgery, but still dealing with aftermath from harmful surgery 
 
41:50


Felicia not sure if mesh is actually taken out - but the doctor had to have intentionally done something to make the square shape in her leg
 


43:00


Because mesh was made topically, not under the skin, so long term effects of mesh not known - doctor was trying to make a sale
 


44:10


Subsequent surgery has repaired some of the damage - but if had proper CS surgery she wouldn't be missing muscle and have tendon surgery - but has permanent disfigurement to her legs, pain every day, can walk, but cannot stand in one place for long - cannot do personal training business - instability in ankle muscles is ongoing concern - can only do sit down jobs now
 


46:30


Felicia says that if a shark bite part of her leg off she could accept it, but to be a medical experiment causes anger - "who does he think he is?"
 


48:00


Felicia feels angry - was also hard for her husband to initially understand the doctor would do such intentional harm
 


49:30


Dehumanizing to take part of a person without their consent - hospital tries to shut down her complaint, dismiss it - the doctor still working there - maybe his reputation takes a hit, but they manipulate the online reviews
 


51:00


Felicia advocates on social media - but hard to be advocate and traumatized person at the same time - but thinks it takes a lot of people getting the message out in different ways - still a long way to go, but getting some momentum
 


53:00


Surprised nobody talking about this issue online - not much about fraud and abusing patients, vs framing as an error or mistake - Felicia wants to bring about accountability
 


54:45


Compares driving a vehicle responsibility same as surgery responsibility, but the system does not treat them the same - should be criminal negligence in her case - not just a small fine for the harm they've done. 
 

Medical abuse = criminal negligence?
 
 
I checked in with Felicia a few days ago.
 


Felicia writes:


 


<em>The injury is actually worse now as when they tried to remove it (scar tissue) nerve damage occurred. </em>


<em> </em>


<em>But my original injury the compartment syndrome is reversed but I’m left with the damage he caused.</em>


<em> </em>


<em>I actually close my eyes every time I open my twitter page so I don’t have to see what happened to my legs because they look totally mutilated.</em>


 


You can connect with Felicia on twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/whitecoatterror'>@WhiteCoatTerror</a>  End White Coat Worship 




 
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, I interview Felicia Mahmoud, from Indiana in the US. Felicia’s story begins with a minor injury from her athletic lifestyle.
Now imagine you’re Felicia - and you’re having very minor surgery on one of your ankles to remove a suspected cyst, a small pimple size cyst.
Unusually, there is a medical device sales rep observing your non-medical device surgery.
Imagine you wake to find the doctor has cut away a huge chunk of your calf muscle. On both legs.
Imagine you find out the doctor has implanted mesh devices in both your legs. Devices that were not designed to be inside the human body.
How would you feel? Betrayed? Angry? Frightened? Maybe all that and more.
I recently chatted with Felicia about her experience and how she’s dealing with the aftermath.
Watch the video version by being a Premium Patron: https://www.patreon.com/MedicalErrorInterviews
A caution that some may find Felicia’s health care experiences distressing.
Felicia's twitter images:
    
 
SHOW NOTES
Felicia: Personal Trainer with Athletic Injury 
4:30
Felicia was very active - got her degree in Exercise Science, then Personal Training Certification with American College of Sports Medicine - working at a gym - 2 year old daughter - ended up getting an injury common to athletes called Compartment Syndrome (CS) - a condition common in endurance athletes, a vascular condition - like an over-blowen tire, usually bilaterally in both legs

6:30


Pressure in muscle compartment, causes swelling, can cause nerve damage if not treated - 2 versions of CS in athletes: acute and chronic - acute can be life and limb threatening, but athletes usually get the chronic version - usually reversible with simple procedure - Felicia symptoms were tightness, pain, pinched nerve - hard to stand for even 10 minutes, otherwise a lot of leg pain - believe damage was too tight roller blades
 


8:00


Can take 1 - 2 years to get diagnosis - pressure testing for diagnosis of CS - Felicia had very high pressure indicating CS
 


9:00


Treatment is like peeling an orange and the thin white skin is like the fascia covering the muscle - procedure is to make a small slit in the fascia to relieve the pressure - reversible condition, 90% success rate - Initially (before CS diagnosis), Felicia had small pimple size point of pain on her leg - thought it may be a small cyst - found a doctor that agreed
 


10:45


Doctor / podiatrist has Felicia in for surgery for cyst removal - but had not been diagnosed with CS yet, assuming this 'cyst' is causing all her leg pain, just above her ankle - Felicia found out later that he didn't even think she had a cyst - also found out later that a 'mesh wound care vendor' was at her surgery and wondered why a sales rep would attend her surgery?
 


12:15


Day of surgery, Felicia asked to sign 2 forms: one for cyst surgery, and one for sales rep to attend surgery - Felicia read the form and it didn't say any thing about changing or implanting any thing, just that he would be in the room - Felicia reinforced that she was just there for the small cyst removal - nurses put Xs under procedure line so that nothing could be added later - witnessed by hospital nurse
 


13:50


Felicia confirmed that they were not doing any thing beyond cyst removal and the doctor nodded his head, but glared at her - Felicia's husband noticed and said to her 'you're making him mad' - Felicia thought she could walk out, but already in gown, and lots of people, what could go wrong?
 

Felicia's leg 2 days before surgery
 
 
Minor Surgery. Major Assault
 


14:30


In the small print of the form it says that nothing could be done without her consent unless life threatening emergency - Felicia walks up from surgery and half of her calve is missing, a health muscle, on both legs - doctor said it was his opinion the muscles were too big, so he cut them down
 


15:30


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Lisa Alioto is a U.S. lawyer who trained hard and climbed to the summit of Mt Kilimanjaro.</p>
<p>Unwittingly to Lisa, conquering that incredible physical challenge would mentally prepare her for even bigger physical - and medical error - challenges.</p>
<p>Years later and well into her law career, Lisa started to experience extreme exhaustion and sleeping symptoms that progressed to black outs, memory loss and vision loss. </p>
<p>In an effort to find what was causing her debilitating symptoms, Lisa encountered a slew of uneducated physicians and misinformed physicians and careless physicians. Lisa was exposed to multiple medical errors - including a twisted version of cognitive behavior therapy , and so-called exercise therapy and both of which exacerbated her illness causing her to be more ill and disabled - Eventually Lisa received a proper diagnosis of a neuro-immune illness.</p>
<p>Not one to sit back and let injustice continue, Lisa has taken her experiences with medical error, and advocates for other patients so they don’t have to go through the same medical harm and delayed diagnosis she did.</p>
<p>Lisa tells the struggle she encountered with a medical system that has embedded a medical error into its education of doctors and treatment of patients. </p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Climbing Mt Kilimanjaro (Lisa is 3rd from right)</p>

0:05:00


Lisa was born in Milwaukee - one older brother - moved around a lot in mid-West - parents married 50+ years - college in Minnesota then twin cities (Minneapolis–Saint Paul) for law degree - undergrad in psychology, criminology minor - thought she would be a police officer


0:06:15


Gradual onset of illness - started 2014 at age 43 - noticed getting more tired and exhuasted, harder to get to work - by 2015 was impacting work, took much more effort because so exhausted - sleep quality poor and declining - sought medical help


0:07:15


A lot of different kind of doctor visits - really frustrating - also expensive - now knows she has compromised immune system so getting sick a lot from doctor waiting rooms - but no body knew what to do - throwing out guesses as to what causing her illness, but some of the guesses were quite harmful - different meds - one medication was so strong - was given 8X dose of large man, subsequent doctors have tested Lisa for organ damage - also told to spend 12 hours a day outside and will be fine


0:08:30


An impossibility living in Minneapolis, not enough sunshine - also sent for cognitive behavior therapy - a top hospital told Lisa to exercise more, but she was very active before getting sick, an excercise buff - initially thought it was great idea, but it turned out it was the worst advice she received


0:09:30


Lisa was a mountain climber - 2005 / 06 decided to get into shape - started intense workouts - wanted to push further and wanted to climb <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Kilimanjaro'>Mt Kilimanjaro</a> and summit it - one of her biggest accomplishments in many ways


0:10:45


Climbing was a real challenge - altitude and effort hard on the body - a migraine the day before the summit - an experience of a lifetime - now draws on that accomplishment to help deal with chronic illness and other life challenges
 

 
To Chew or Not to Chew
 


0:12:45


When initially ill, Lisa thought she had a sleeping disorder because it was so poor and she was exhausted - went to a sleep clinic - but in 2016 more symptoms - memory loss, vision loss, swollen lymph nodes - health went down hill


0:14:00


No doctors in Minnesota for ME patients - so not getting any care - waiting for her appointment at the Stanford clinic - but Lisa's GP said that Lisa's symptoms were beyond her skills - so went to a lot of different specialists: rheumatology, infectious diseases, internal medicine, neurologist - but not finding any thing to explain symptoms - finally went to clinic that diagnosed her with <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (ME)</a> - aka 'chronic fatigue syndrome'


0:15:30


Felt relief getting a diagnosis - but relief short lived until she did her own research on ME - learned about it and went to 3 day course to manage disease - but more research exposed that exercise and cognitive behavior therapy (CBT) were doing more harm than good 


0:17:00


CBT reinforced that she should be progressing with exercise - but in the end, the only thing they helped with was with memory loss - working out caused relapses, so a short lived experience with that program


0:18:00


Difference between CBT Lisa experienced, and CBT people living with chronic illness receive - Lisa loved working out, but it would cause a relapse and bed bound for days - got to the point where Lisa would consider how much chewing was involved with certain foods because her energy was so limited - choosing oatmeal over sandwich


0:18:45


Hard for people who have never been seriously ill to understand having to choose food based on how much energy to chew the food - too much energy from chewing - lost a lot of weight because too tired to make food, chew food


0:21:00


Lisa did more research about ME - about misinformation, myths - but did get helpful information about not pushing herself physically - also experienced black outs, unresponsive for hours - like coming out of deep dark hole and hit by truck, feeling terrible - but has decreased somewhat since she stopped pushing herself
 

 
Black Outs
 


0:22:15


Very scary having black outs - would hide her symptoms in public - but scared that someting bad could happen when she was blacked out


0:24:00


One turnaround in health was stopping exercise - but still had <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Post-exertional_malaise'>post exertional malaise (PEM)</a> symptoms from doing too much when feeling 'good' - but next day would be crashed - learnig to pace her energy has been hard because she's a very motivated person - graduated top honors in law school, always tries to do her best at what she tries 


0:25:30


Now when someone asks her to do something, Lisa has to look at how much energy she'll expend the day before the event, the day of the event, and if she has time to recover the day after the event - will it cause more harm than good?


0:26:30


"paying the price' of too much exertion means laying on the couch the next day - if lucky, she can open her eyes to watch tv - sleeping for 10 hours and laying on the couch all day to recover - eating is optional / minimal due to energy required - had to accept that self care is productive


0:28:30


Works from home every other day because of energy of taking shower and getting ready uses all her energy - putting on healthy face when sick takes a lot of energy too


0:29:30


'chronic fatigue syndrome' is a misnomer, so employers had to learn about - had to educate her employer - also involved in ME advocacy - some work with the Centre of Disease Control (CDC), health care providers - also volunteer for state ME org, doing social media - also formed <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiw6sTA99LjAhUFWs0KHceoD84QFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.minnesotamecfs.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw1zSIcGbN1OEAGI6jdeaknH'>Minnesota ME Alliance</a> to support people in Minnesota - so many people are completely house or bed bound - want to find and help them and educate medical providers so people can get diagnosis and not waste time and money - also write a lot of articles about living with ME


0:32:45


Writing therapeutic - realized grieving for loss of acitve lifestyle, etc - used to do a lot for her parents, but now role reversal and parents are her care takers - example of grocery shopping because it takes energy to lift things, walk around store pushing cart, and unpacking at home
 

 
Chronic Illness Made Lisa a Better Person
 


0:34:45


Grief and loss of losing life she had known - loss a lot of friends, shocking - but 2/3 gone once she couldn't be active, she lost friends - now feel have replaced a lot of those things - doing chair yoga with seniors, meditation - some positive things - may sound weird, but getting a chronic illness has made her a better person - because before was very motivated to mover herself forward, but now goals impact a lot of other people beyond herself


0:37:30


Engages a lot with chronic illness communities - so much campassion in these communities - brought out the best in her - more understanding


0:38:50


Biggest goal is pacing her energy to get better health - but hard time giving up advocacy and still trying to find balance with personal health - but had recent house fire threw a wrench into pacing - to help others, she needs to be healthy


0:40:40


Currently trying to get appointment at <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjI9cf099LjAhVKQ80KHQU1BsYQFjAAegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmed.stanford.edu%2Fgenpeds%2Fpatient-care%2Fcomplex-primary-care-clinic.html&usg=AOvVaw0o2FfEWV0o_FnwmWwQNb50'>Stanford (Complex Care Clinic)</a> so she can see a ME doctor - recently tried <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Low_dose_naltrexone'>low dose naltrexone (LDN)</a> and given her a small boost in energy - curcumin supplement may be helping but dealing with house fire aftermath so hard to tell - continue learning about potential new symptom treatment


0:42:30


Uses a sleep monitor and it shows she's not getting deep sleep - told she has 'spontaneous arousal' during sleep where she wakes briefly - but don't know cause - took meds to help with sleep, but caused more problems


0:44:20


Lisa will need to 'rest hard' after our interview - END
 

 
Connect with Lisa Atiolo
 


Twitter @lisaalioto


 


<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiw6sTA99LjAhUFWs0KHceoD84QFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.minnesotamecfs.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw1zSIcGbN1OEAGI6jdeaknH'>Minnesota ME Alliance</a>


 


Blog - <a href='https://www.realisticoptimism.org/'>RealisticOptimism.org</a> - focused on how you can live a life filled with happiness, gratitude and joy despite the challenges of a chronic illness. 


 


Facebook: <a href='mailto:www.facebook.com/RealisticOptimism/.'>https://www.facebook.com/RealisticOptimism/.</a>


Twitter @aliotolisa (Realistic Optimism)
 

 
____________________________________________
 



Host Scott Simpson


 
<a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>https://remediescounseling.com</a>

 
     


 
 
 







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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa Alioto is a U.S. lawyer who trained hard and climbed to the summit of Mt Kilimanjaro.</p>
<p>Unwittingly to Lisa, conquering that incredible physical challenge would mentally prepare her for even bigger physical - and medical error - challenges.</p>
<p>Years later and well into her law career, Lisa started to experience extreme exhaustion and sleeping symptoms that progressed to black outs, memory loss and vision loss. </p>
<p>In an effort to find what was causing her debilitating symptoms, Lisa encountered a slew of uneducated physicians and misinformed physicians and careless physicians. Lisa was exposed to multiple medical errors - including a twisted version of cognitive behavior therapy , and so-called exercise therapy and both of which exacerbated her illness causing her to be more ill and disabled - Eventually Lisa received a proper diagnosis of a neuro-immune illness.</p>
<p>Not one to sit back and let injustice continue, Lisa has taken her experiences with medical error, and advocates for other patients so they don’t have to go through the same medical harm and delayed diagnosis she did.</p>
<p>Lisa tells the struggle she encountered with a medical system that has embedded a medical error into its education of doctors and treatment of patients. </p>
<p>SHOW NOTES:</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Climbing Mt Kilimanjaro (Lisa is 3rd from right)</p>

0:05:00


Lisa was born in Milwaukee - one older brother - moved around a lot in mid-West - parents married 50+ years - college in Minnesota then twin cities (Minneapolis–Saint Paul) for law degree - undergrad in psychology, criminology minor - thought she would be a police officer


0:06:15


Gradual onset of illness - started 2014 at age 43 - noticed getting more tired and exhuasted, harder to get to work - by 2015 was impacting work, took much more effort because so exhausted - sleep quality poor and declining - sought medical help


0:07:15


A lot of different kind of doctor visits - really frustrating - also expensive - now knows she has compromised immune system so getting sick a lot from doctor waiting rooms - but no body knew what to do - throwing out guesses as to what causing her illness, but some of the guesses were quite harmful - different meds - one medication was so strong - was given 8X dose of large man, subsequent doctors have tested Lisa for organ damage - also told to spend 12 hours a day outside and will be fine


0:08:30


An impossibility living in Minneapolis, not enough sunshine - also sent for cognitive behavior therapy - a top hospital told Lisa to exercise more, but she was very active before getting sick, an excercise buff - initially thought it was great idea, but it turned out it was the worst advice she received


0:09:30


Lisa was a mountain climber - 2005 / 06 decided to get into shape - started intense workouts - wanted to push further and wanted to climb <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Kilimanjaro'>Mt Kilimanjaro</a> and summit it - one of her biggest accomplishments in many ways


0:10:45


Climbing was a real challenge - altitude and effort hard on the body - a migraine the day before the summit - an experience of a lifetime - now draws on that accomplishment to help deal with chronic illness and other life challenges
 

 
To Chew or Not to Chew
 


0:12:45


When initially ill, Lisa thought she had a sleeping disorder because it was so poor and she was exhausted - went to a sleep clinic - but in 2016 more symptoms - memory loss, vision loss, swollen lymph nodes - health went down hill


0:14:00


No doctors in Minnesota for ME patients - so not getting any care - waiting for her appointment at the Stanford clinic - but Lisa's GP said that Lisa's symptoms were beyond her skills - so went to a lot of different specialists: rheumatology, infectious diseases, internal medicine, neurologist - but not finding any thing to explain symptoms - finally went to clinic that diagnosed her with <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis'>Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (ME)</a> - aka 'chronic fatigue syndrome'


0:15:30


Felt relief getting a diagnosis - but relief short lived until she did her own research on ME - learned about it and went to 3 day course to manage disease - but more research exposed that exercise and cognitive behavior therapy (CBT) were doing more harm than good 


0:17:00


CBT reinforced that she should be progressing with exercise - but in the end, the only thing they helped with was with memory loss - working out caused relapses, so a short lived experience with that program


0:18:00


Difference between CBT Lisa experienced, and CBT people living with chronic illness receive - Lisa loved working out, but it would cause a relapse and bed bound for days - got to the point where Lisa would consider how much chewing was involved with certain foods because her energy was so limited - choosing oatmeal over sandwich


0:18:45


Hard for people who have never been seriously ill to understand having to choose food based on how much energy to chew the food - too much energy from chewing - lost a lot of weight because too tired to make food, chew food


0:21:00


Lisa did more research about ME - about misinformation, myths - but did get helpful information about not pushing herself physically - also experienced black outs, unresponsive for hours - like coming out of deep dark hole and hit by truck, feeling terrible - but has decreased somewhat since she stopped pushing herself
 

 
Black Outs
 


0:22:15


Very scary having black outs - would hide her symptoms in public - but scared that someting bad could happen when she was blacked out


0:24:00


One turnaround in health was stopping exercise - but still had <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Post-exertional_malaise'>post exertional malaise (PEM)</a> symptoms from doing too much when feeling 'good' - but next day would be crashed - learnig to pace her energy has been hard because she's a very motivated person - graduated top honors in law school, always tries to do her best at what she tries 


0:25:30


Now when someone asks her to do something, Lisa has to look at how much energy she'll expend the day before the event, the day of the event, and if she has time to recover the day after the event - will it cause more harm than good?


0:26:30


"paying the price' of too much exertion means laying on the couch the next day - if lucky, she can open her eyes to watch tv - sleeping for 10 hours and laying on the couch all day to recover - eating is optional / minimal due to energy required - had to accept that self care is productive


0:28:30


Works from home every other day because of energy of taking shower and getting ready uses all her energy - putting on healthy face when sick takes a lot of energy too


0:29:30


'chronic fatigue syndrome' is a misnomer, so employers had to learn about - had to educate her employer - also involved in ME advocacy - some work with the Centre of Disease Control (CDC), health care providers - also volunteer for state ME org, doing social media - also formed <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiw6sTA99LjAhUFWs0KHceoD84QFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.minnesotamecfs.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw1zSIcGbN1OEAGI6jdeaknH'>Minnesota ME Alliance</a> to support people in Minnesota - so many people are completely house or bed bound - want to find and help them and educate medical providers so people can get diagnosis and not waste time and money - also write a lot of articles about living with ME


0:32:45


Writing therapeutic - realized grieving for loss of acitve lifestyle, etc - used to do a lot for her parents, but now role reversal and parents are her care takers - example of grocery shopping because it takes energy to lift things, walk around store pushing cart, and unpacking at home
 

 
Chronic Illness Made Lisa a Better Person
 


0:34:45


Grief and loss of losing life she had known - loss a lot of friends, shocking - but 2/3 gone once she couldn't be active, she lost friends - now feel have replaced a lot of those things - doing chair yoga with seniors, meditation - some positive things - may sound weird, but getting a chronic illness has made her a better person - because before was very motivated to mover herself forward, but now goals impact a lot of other people beyond herself


0:37:30


Engages a lot with chronic illness communities - so much campassion in these communities - brought out the best in her - more understanding


0:38:50


Biggest goal is pacing her energy to get better health - but hard time giving up advocacy and still trying to find balance with personal health - but had recent house fire threw a wrench into pacing - to help others, she needs to be healthy


0:40:40


Currently trying to get appointment at <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjI9cf099LjAhVKQ80KHQU1BsYQFjAAegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmed.stanford.edu%2Fgenpeds%2Fpatient-care%2Fcomplex-primary-care-clinic.html&usg=AOvVaw0o2FfEWV0o_FnwmWwQNb50'>Stanford (Complex Care Clinic)</a> so she can see a ME doctor - recently tried <a href='https://www.me-pedia.org/wiki/Low_dose_naltrexone'>low dose naltrexone (LDN)</a> and given her a small boost in energy - curcumin supplement may be helping but dealing with house fire aftermath so hard to tell - continue learning about potential new symptom treatment


0:42:30


Uses a sleep monitor and it shows she's not getting deep sleep - told she has 'spontaneous arousal' during sleep where she wakes briefly - but don't know cause - took meds to help with sleep, but caused more problems


0:44:20


Lisa will need to 'rest hard' after our interview - END
 

 
Connect with Lisa Atiolo
 


Twitter @lisaalioto


 


<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiw6sTA99LjAhUFWs0KHceoD84QFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.minnesotamecfs.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw1zSIcGbN1OEAGI6jdeaknH'>Minnesota ME Alliance</a>


 


Blog - <a href='https://www.realisticoptimism.org/'>RealisticOptimism.org</a> - focused on how you can live a life filled with happiness, gratitude and joy despite the challenges of a chronic illness. 


 


Facebook: <a href='mailto:www.facebook.com/RealisticOptimism/.'>https://www.facebook.com/RealisticOptimism/.</a>


Twitter @aliotolisa (Realistic Optimism)
 

 
____________________________________________
 



Host Scott Simpson


 
<a href='https://remediescounseling.com'>https://remediescounseling.com</a>

 
     


 
 
 







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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Lisa Alioto is a U.S. lawyer who trained hard and climbed to the summit of Mt Kilimanjaro.
Unwittingly to Lisa, conquering that incredible physical challenge would mentally prepare her for even bigger physical - and medical error - challenges.
Years later and well into her law career, Lisa started to experience extreme exhaustion and sleeping symptoms that progressed to black outs, memory loss and vision loss. 
In an effort to find what was causing her debilitating symptoms, Lisa encountered a slew of uneducated physicians and misinformed physicians and careless physicians. Lisa was exposed to multiple medical errors - including a twisted version of cognitive behavior therapy , and so-called exercise therapy and both of which exacerbated her illness causing her to be more ill and disabled - Eventually Lisa received a proper diagnosis of a neuro-immune illness.
Not one to sit back and let injustice continue, Lisa has taken her experiences with medical error, and advocates for other patients so they don’t have to go through the same medical harm and delayed diagnosis she did.
Lisa tells the struggle she encountered with a medical system that has embedded a medical error into its education of doctors and treatment of patients. 
SHOW NOTES:
 
 
Climbing Mt Kilimanjaro (Lisa is 3rd from right)

0:05:00


Lisa was born in Milwaukee - one older brother - moved around a lot in mid-West - parents married 50+ years - college in Minnesota then twin cities (Minneapolis–Saint Paul) for law degree - undergrad in psychology, criminology minor - thought she would be a police officer


0:06:15


Gradual onset of illness - started 2014 at age 43 - noticed getting more tired and exhuasted, harder to get to work - by 2015 was impacting work, took much more effort because so exhausted - sleep quality poor and declining - sought medical help


0:07:15


A lot of different kind of doctor visits - really frustrating - also expensive - now knows she has compromised immune system so getting sick a lot from doctor waiting rooms - but no body knew what to do - throwing out guesses as to what causing her illness, but some of the guesses were quite harmful - different meds - one medication was so strong - was given 8X dose of large man, subsequent doctors have tested Lisa for organ damage - also told to spend 12 hours a day outside and will be fine


0:08:30


An impossibility living in Minneapolis, not enough sunshine - also sent for cognitive behavior therapy - a top hospital told Lisa to exercise more, but she was very active before getting sick, an excercise buff - initially thought it was great idea, but it turned out it was the worst advice she received


0:09:30


Lisa was a mountain climber - 2005 / 06 decided to get into shape - started intense workouts - wanted to push further and wanted to climb Mt Kilimanjaro and summit it - one of her biggest accomplishments in many ways


0:10:45


Climbing was a real challenge - altitude and effort hard on the body - a migraine the day before the summit - an experience of a lifetime - now draws on that accomplishment to help deal with chronic illness and other life challenges
 

 
To Chew or Not to Chew
 


0:12:45


When initially ill, Lisa thought she had a sleeping disorder because it was so poor and she was exhausted - went to a sleep clinic - but in 2016 more symptoms - memory loss, vision loss, swollen lymph nodes - health went down hill


0:14:00


No doctors in Minnesota for ME patients - so not getting any care - waiting for her appointment at the Stanford clinic - but Lisa's GP said that Lisa's symptoms were beyond her skills - so went to a lot of different specialists: rheumatology, infectious diseases, internal medicine, neurologist - but not finding any thing to explain symptoms - finally went to clinic that diagnosed her with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (ME) - aka 'chronic fatigue syndrome'


0:15:30


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Author and psychologist <a href='https://brianmhughes.com/about/'>Brian Hughes</a> talks about how bad science and scientists can lead to harming people. Brian connects the dots between bad psychological science and how that can lead to medical error and patient harm.



<p>We talk about an infamous research trial out of the UK and how its very poor methodology - coupled with what has been characterized as fraudulent behaviour by the researchers - has lead to millions of patients around the globe with the biological disease  Myalgic Encephalomyelitis - or ME for short - to be subjected to medical harm, abuse and trauma.</p>
<p>These ME patients are often prescribed ‘treatment’ that is actually contraindicated and  makes them more ill, sometimes permanently disabling them. </p>
<p>As one ME researcher noted - I’m paraphrasing her - “They came to the doctor with ME. They left with PTSD.”</p>
<p>This bad science by psychology researchers who have built their reputations, their careers and their bank accounts on their fraudulent research and harmful treatment, have embedded medical error on a global scale by negatively influencing health care systems everywhere and misinforming physicians about the biological nature of ME.</p>
<p>Brian’s book shows how bad psychological science leads to an institutionalized and embedded medical error that permeates our health care systems world wide.</p>



Brians' <a href='http://bit.ly/bmhughes2019'>website</a>


Brian's <a href='https://notthesciencebit.net/'>blog</a>


Brian's <a href='http://amzn.eu/d/7PxDsB9'>book</a> on Amazon


Brian on <a href='https://twitter.com/b_m_hughes'>twitter</a>
 
Brian Hughes Show Notes
 
Psychology is science
 


0:06:45


Brian born and raised in rural Ireland, small town of less then 2,000 - in '70s Irish economy weak so education considered very important - Brian bookish and good at school and stuck with it - attended university for humanity and arts, psychology degree


0:08:15


Ireland was conservative and psychology a little 'new age' - but for Brian, psychology had philosophical and science bent and novelty - interested in human nature, culture and diversity in spite of small town upbringing - curious about presumptions and assumptions - liked that psych is science and evidence based - became passionate about psych


0:09:45


Brian views psych as science of behavior, broadly defined - being a good psych clinician doesn't automatically make one a good scientist - Brian's area of research focus influences clinical psych like emotional, cognitive, physical stress - especially on cardio vascular and immune health


0:11:45


Brian motivated by the evidenced side of psych research - interested in prolonged stress effect on cardio vascular system because sustained emotional stress will have quantifiable measures in body
 
 
 
Calling out colleagues
 


0:13:00


About <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Crisis-Brian-Hughes/dp/1352003007/'>Brian's book</a> - Psychology in Crisis - psychology is interesting because it is tempting for all humans to dabble in psych - like to discuss other's behaviour, social problems, decisions - attracts a lot of lay person effort - but some psychologists have succumbed to lay interpretation - psych is only valid with science and lay interpretation is undermining the psychological field


0:16:00


Working title was 'Psychology's Methodological Crisis' - but Brian acknowledges it is not snappy but is ambiguous - but "Psychology in Crisis" is a compelling title


0:17:00


A lot of clinicians frustrated by lack of prioritizing evidence based practice - likewise, a lot of academic psych researchers that are tolerant of looser approach - Psych is a discipline with a wide range of scientists - at one end are hard scientists, and the other end are the hard anti-science at the other - and lots of psychologists in between - lots in health psychology where evidence is not top of their agenda, helping people is - and that is the enemy of good science - the road to hell is paved with good intentions - and that interferes with good science


0:19:00


A lot of psychologists involved in physical and medical problems and they are committed to helping people - but the risk is that because rushing to help people undermines good science - area of health psychology is not good science - Brian became quite concerned that only a minority take evidence based approach and not interested in scientific rigor - classic dilemma between slow reliable process vs fast unreliable process, and a lot of psychologists choosing fast and unreliable
 

 
Bad Scientists
 


0:21:00


Brian's book received a lot of attention - public response has been supportive and featured well around the world - in terms of academic psychologists, feedback have been positive, some conspicuously quiet, others written privately to support his work but criticize him for pointing out their lack of scientific rigor - but book praised throughout


0:23:00


Writing about risk of assuming we've dealt with psych crisis - asked to speak at conferences globally - generally, Brian is happy how book has been received


0:24:00


<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj33avP6bzjAhVK5awKHe6dAnIQFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPACE_trial&usg=AOvVaw3rRvvvYhKXawnK-Rm3KnvD'>PACE Trial</a> is a research study conducted over multiple years attempting to treat ME, a condition that is very debilitating - the concept was that providing treatment that included a behavioural and cognitive component, namely CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and GET (graded exercise therapy), would improve lives of people with ME - done in UK, over 600 participants and the authors claimed they had successfully treated ME patients


0:25:35


What is controversial is that on one hand it seems implausible because exercise therapy is reported to be harmful by patients - many psychologists when they saw the results of the study were curious as to what the details looked like - the PACE Trial proven to controversial and beleagured because of the methodology used has been severely critiqued - Brian reports on many flaws in study and Brian concludes it is a weak study and the conclusions are not appropriately grounded and some of the flaws are destructive to good science and an example of how science can damage people's lives


0:28:00


Biggest problem with PACE Trial is its conception - based on asking participants how they feel about intervention, so subjective reports by patients - any study that intervenes with patients should be 'blinded' so patients do not know if they are receiving treatment or not, but in PACE patients were told they would receive therapy, told therapy was good, told therapy was evidence based, told therapy is effective - then asked how they feel about the therapy - problem is therapy is based on teaching patients how to find benefits from situation, to talk about predicament in positive way, so by end of therapy they'd been taught to describe jar as half full
 

 
Clinical Amateurism
 


0:30:15


Basically particpants were biased to report improvement that made the results look like therapy worked - so blinding not used, when blinding is required - and subjective data relied upon when it should not be - this is an elementary problem that is taught if 1st year psychology courses - example of how study should not be designed


0:31:30


When data eventually scrutinized by independent researchers, there were hints the data that if objective measures used, the therapy would have been ineffective - test of physical endurance showed no improvement - analysis of disability payments were higher after therapy - no objective evidence of recovery, only subjective reporting


0:33:40


Mutliple millions of Pounds of money committed before research carried out - would hope grant approval process had competent individuals assessing funding applications - seldom case that people deciding who gets funded try to root out bad research - they rarely test the competence of research designers, not scrutinizing quality of studies


0:35:45


Also, peer reviewed research in the UK have to assume that high profile applicants that applied would've been known to study grant awarders


0:37:00"


The Triumph of Emminence Based Medicine" blog post by Brian - an opinion piece - relates to very important researcher automatically seen as reporting quality work and considered bad manners to question the quality of this very important researcher by grant awarding bodies, by practitioners, by people who are conflict adverse and don't like people criticizing very important people - PACE Trial is example of Emminence Based Medicine


0:39:15


The R Word - Retraction - has not been retracted, has produced 2 papers and are not being considered for retraction - not every bad study is retracted - 100s of 1000s published every year, and number get retracted is very small - retraction is unusual - PACE Trial defendors are digging in and trying to promote therapy despite controversy


0:41:30


A lot of people criticize the PACE Trial, Brian simply reporting on what has transpired - no risk to his own career since he's promoting scientific rigor - consensus is PACE is example as bad trial, it appears in text books as example of bad science - only PACE researchers are defending their research
 

 
Psychologizing the physical
 


0:43:00


Interesting cultural divide between US and UK - in US ME declared physical illness, but in UK ME declared as psychological illness - 2 different approaches tell a lot about social contruction of ME, it is a difference of opinion, not a difference of fact.


0:45:00


BPS = Bio Psycho Social and other psychosomatic terms: can have BPS explanation of any thing - originally BPS a sophisticated idea about where and how illness happens - however, replacing biological with the psycho-social is a fallacy - trend some psychologists believe don't need biological and try to define a physical illness in purely psychosocial terms - not really BPS model, just PS - a runaway train, out of control of reasoning - not unlike how psychoanalytic / Freudian view has taken hold in some countries and it is very hard to shift even when facts are known - try to psychologize everything


0:48:15


Some countries, some societies have completely dispensed with psychologizing the physical, but in the UK currently the idea has currency


0:49:00


Look at psychology as a whole - research methods seen key, very important - cannot have psych research without quantitative data - Brian promotes evidence based science and research - need to be assertive in promoting rigorous methods - providing empirical evidence of higher rigor - public realizes evidence is valuable, but we need to explain there is different types of evidence, good evidence and bad evidence - signs people in wider culture are internalizing those values


0:51:30


The volume of research produced annually is a commercially driven industry - university is looking at ranking of how their staff is publishing - the volume of bad science getting bigger every year - but Brian predicts people will approach science with degree of caution because of preponderance of bad science - but we're also becoming more conscious of this problem that bad science exists - now much wider understanding good and bad science


0:53:10


People in psychology arguing for rigor are being outnumbered - but greater awareness of problem - Brian's book one of many discussing crisis in psychology and spreading more widely


0:54:45


Greater awareness of science generally - climate change, vaccinations controversial science - risk of creating world where we don't trust any research and go back to 15th Century when important rich people decided what was fact - consensus is that the earlier we teach people about science, they'll be innoculated against problem of anti-science scepticism - question is how do you get that into the system
 

 
We benefit from more science, not less
 


0:57:30


Vaccination controversy psychologically interesting - always been vaccination skeptics - trend in society for many years of approaching science with caution - not beyond possibility that society will destroy itself - nuclear war, climate change, pandemics, politically


1:00:00


We benefit from more science, not less - more rigor, not less - more care, not less - more time, not less in science - fear that society will leave science behind as unneccessary - but scientists argue for good science but first get our own house in order and make sure science we do we're happy to present to the world and be proud of


1:02:00


Brian looking at human individuality and diversity next - when looking at individuals we understand population better - challenge for psychologists is to look at individual differences, and only a minority look at that - most psychologists look at humanity as a general thing in humans in general - only some look at individual differences - looking at social attitudes and views of people and how that translates into social problems - rise populism, zenophobia, sterotyping minorities, all of these are lay psychological theory


1:04:00


How we get these theories and what does science say about them is the bridge Brian would like to research - explains to wide audience what we know about human diversity and why its important in evolutionary terms


1:05:45


Interested in how science industry work and how do we come to our current understanding - example, lots of stereotypes of how different races behave - Brian is interested in how culture stereotypes influence sciencitific review and the end science and lead us to a world where we churn out bad science in favour of cultural stereotypes - another example is gender differences and why so much research in the industry conforms to prior assumptions instead of challenging assumptions.


1:06:45


Psychology overlaps with a lot of areas, and crisis in psychology cuts across other areas: medical, pathology, epidemiology, etc - psychology can be ahead of the pack in dealing with these issues and sorting out these problems - and they occur across the sciences - if get psychology crisis corrected, can make a big influence outside of psychology


1:08:00


So many people working on this problem that Brian is hopeful for the future.
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Author and psychologist <a href='https://brianmhughes.com/about/'>Brian Hughes</a> talks about how bad science and scientists can lead to harming people. Brian connects the dots between bad psychological science and how that can lead to medical error and patient harm.



<p>We talk about an infamous research trial out of the UK and how its very poor methodology - coupled with what has been characterized as fraudulent behaviour by the researchers - has lead to millions of patients around the globe with the biological disease  Myalgic Encephalomyelitis - or ME for short - to be subjected to medical harm, abuse and trauma.</p>
<p>These ME patients are often prescribed ‘treatment’ that is actually contraindicated and  makes them more ill, sometimes permanently disabling them. </p>
<p>As one ME researcher noted - I’m paraphrasing her - “They came to the doctor with ME. They left with PTSD.”</p>
<p>This bad science by psychology researchers who have built their reputations, their careers and their bank accounts on their fraudulent research and harmful treatment, have embedded medical error on a global scale by negatively influencing health care systems everywhere and misinforming physicians about the biological nature of ME.</p>
<p>Brian’s book shows how bad psychological science leads to an institutionalized and embedded medical error that permeates our health care systems world wide.</p>



Brians' <a href='http://bit.ly/bmhughes2019'>website</a>


Brian's <a href='https://notthesciencebit.net/'>blog</a>


Brian's <a href='http://amzn.eu/d/7PxDsB9'>book</a> on Amazon


Brian on <a href='https://twitter.com/b_m_hughes'>twitter</a>
 
Brian Hughes Show Notes
 
Psychology is science
 


0:06:45


Brian born and raised in rural Ireland, small town of less then 2,000 - in '70s Irish economy weak so education considered very important - Brian bookish and good at school and stuck with it - attended university for humanity and arts, psychology degree


0:08:15


Ireland was conservative and psychology a little 'new age' - but for Brian, psychology had philosophical and science bent and novelty - interested in human nature, culture and diversity in spite of small town upbringing - curious about presumptions and assumptions - liked that psych is science and evidence based - became passionate about psych


0:09:45


Brian views psych as science of behavior, broadly defined - being a good psych clinician doesn't automatically make one a good scientist - Brian's area of research focus influences clinical psych like emotional, cognitive, physical stress - especially on cardio vascular and immune health


0:11:45


Brian motivated by the evidenced side of psych research - interested in prolonged stress effect on cardio vascular system because sustained emotional stress will have quantifiable measures in body
 
 
 
Calling out colleagues
 


0:13:00


About <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Crisis-Brian-Hughes/dp/1352003007/'>Brian's book</a> - Psychology in Crisis - psychology is interesting because it is tempting for all humans to dabble in psych - like to discuss other's behaviour, social problems, decisions - attracts a lot of lay person effort - but some psychologists have succumbed to lay interpretation - psych is only valid with science and lay interpretation is undermining the psychological field


0:16:00


Working title was 'Psychology's Methodological Crisis' - but Brian acknowledges it is not snappy but is ambiguous - but "Psychology in Crisis" is a compelling title


0:17:00


A lot of clinicians frustrated by lack of prioritizing evidence based practice - likewise, a lot of academic psych researchers that are tolerant of looser approach - Psych is a discipline with a wide range of scientists - at one end are hard scientists, and the other end are the hard anti-science at the other - and lots of psychologists in between - lots in health psychology where evidence is not top of their agenda, helping people is - and that is the enemy of good science - the road to hell is paved with good intentions - and that interferes with good science


0:19:00


A lot of psychologists involved in physical and medical problems and they are committed to helping people - but the risk is that because rushing to help people undermines good science - area of health psychology is not good science - Brian became quite concerned that only a minority take evidence based approach and not interested in scientific rigor - classic dilemma between slow reliable process vs fast unreliable process, and a lot of psychologists choosing fast and unreliable
 

 
Bad Scientists
 


0:21:00


Brian's book received a lot of attention - public response has been supportive and featured well around the world - in terms of academic psychologists, feedback have been positive, some conspicuously quiet, others written privately to support his work but criticize him for pointing out their lack of scientific rigor - but book praised throughout


0:23:00


Writing about risk of assuming we've dealt with psych crisis - asked to speak at conferences globally - generally, Brian is happy how book has been received


0:24:00


<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj33avP6bzjAhVK5awKHe6dAnIQFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPACE_trial&usg=AOvVaw3rRvvvYhKXawnK-Rm3KnvD'>PACE Trial</a> is a research study conducted over multiple years attempting to treat ME, a condition that is very debilitating - the concept was that providing treatment that included a behavioural and cognitive component, namely CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and GET (graded exercise therapy), would improve lives of people with ME - done in UK, over 600 participants and the authors claimed they had successfully treated ME patients


0:25:35


What is controversial is that on one hand it seems implausible because exercise therapy is reported to be harmful by patients - many psychologists when they saw the results of the study were curious as to what the details looked like - the PACE Trial proven to controversial and beleagured because of the methodology used has been severely critiqued - Brian reports on many flaws in study and Brian concludes it is a weak study and the conclusions are not appropriately grounded and some of the flaws are destructive to good science and an example of how science can damage people's lives


0:28:00


Biggest problem with PACE Trial is its conception - based on asking participants how they feel about intervention, so subjective reports by patients - any study that intervenes with patients should be 'blinded' so patients do not know if they are receiving treatment or not, but in PACE patients were told they would receive therapy, told therapy was good, told therapy was evidence based, told therapy is effective - then asked how they feel about the therapy - problem is therapy is based on teaching patients how to find benefits from situation, to talk about predicament in positive way, so by end of therapy they'd been taught to describe jar as half full
 

 
Clinical Amateurism
 


0:30:15


Basically particpants were biased to report improvement that made the results look like therapy worked - so blinding not used, when blinding is required - and subjective data relied upon when it should not be - this is an elementary problem that is taught if 1st year psychology courses - example of how study should not be designed


0:31:30


When data eventually scrutinized by independent researchers, there were hints the data that if objective measures used, the therapy would have been ineffective - test of physical endurance showed no improvement - analysis of disability payments were higher after therapy - no objective evidence of recovery, only subjective reporting


0:33:40


Mutliple millions of Pounds of money committed before research carried out - would hope grant approval process had competent individuals assessing funding applications - seldom case that people deciding who gets funded try to root out bad research - they rarely test the competence of research designers, not scrutinizing quality of studies


0:35:45


Also, peer reviewed research in the UK have to assume that high profile applicants that applied would've been known to study grant awarders


0:37:00"


The Triumph of Emminence Based Medicine" blog post by Brian - an opinion piece - relates to very important researcher automatically seen as reporting quality work and considered bad manners to question the quality of this very important researcher by grant awarding bodies, by practitioners, by people who are conflict adverse and don't like people criticizing very important people - PACE Trial is example of Emminence Based Medicine


0:39:15


The R Word - Retraction - has not been retracted, has produced 2 papers and are not being considered for retraction - not every bad study is retracted - 100s of 1000s published every year, and number get retracted is very small - retraction is unusual - PACE Trial defendors are digging in and trying to promote therapy despite controversy


0:41:30


A lot of people criticize the PACE Trial, Brian simply reporting on what has transpired - no risk to his own career since he's promoting scientific rigor - consensus is PACE is example as bad trial, it appears in text books as example of bad science - only PACE researchers are defending their research
 

 
Psychologizing the physical
 


0:43:00


Interesting cultural divide between US and UK - in US ME declared physical illness, but in UK ME declared as psychological illness - 2 different approaches tell a lot about social contruction of ME, it is a difference of opinion, not a difference of fact.


0:45:00


BPS = Bio Psycho Social and other psychosomatic terms: can have BPS explanation of any thing - originally BPS a sophisticated idea about where and how illness happens - however, replacing biological with the psycho-social is a fallacy - trend some psychologists believe don't need biological and try to define a physical illness in purely psychosocial terms - not really BPS model, just PS - a runaway train, out of control of reasoning - not unlike how psychoanalytic / Freudian view has taken hold in some countries and it is very hard to shift even when facts are known - try to psychologize everything


0:48:15


Some countries, some societies have completely dispensed with psychologizing the physical, but in the UK currently the idea has currency


0:49:00


Look at psychology as a whole - research methods seen key, very important - cannot have psych research without quantitative data - Brian promotes evidence based science and research - need to be assertive in promoting rigorous methods - providing empirical evidence of higher rigor - public realizes evidence is valuable, but we need to explain there is different types of evidence, good evidence and bad evidence - signs people in wider culture are internalizing those values


0:51:30


The volume of research produced annually is a commercially driven industry - university is looking at ranking of how their staff is publishing - the volume of bad science getting bigger every year - but Brian predicts people will approach science with degree of caution because of preponderance of bad science - but we're also becoming more conscious of this problem that bad science exists - now much wider understanding good and bad science


0:53:10


People in psychology arguing for rigor are being outnumbered - but greater awareness of problem - Brian's book one of many discussing crisis in psychology and spreading more widely


0:54:45


Greater awareness of science generally - climate change, vaccinations controversial science - risk of creating world where we don't trust any research and go back to 15th Century when important rich people decided what was fact - consensus is that the earlier we teach people about science, they'll be innoculated against problem of anti-science scepticism - question is how do you get that into the system
 

 
We benefit from more science, not less
 


0:57:30


Vaccination controversy psychologically interesting - always been vaccination skeptics - trend in society for many years of approaching science with caution - not beyond possibility that society will destroy itself - nuclear war, climate change, pandemics, politically


1:00:00


We benefit from more science, not less - more rigor, not less - more care, not less - more time, not less in science - fear that society will leave science behind as unneccessary - but scientists argue for good science but first get our own house in order and make sure science we do we're happy to present to the world and be proud of


1:02:00


Brian looking at human individuality and diversity next - when looking at individuals we understand population better - challenge for psychologists is to look at individual differences, and only a minority look at that - most psychologists look at humanity as a general thing in humans in general - only some look at individual differences - looking at social attitudes and views of people and how that translates into social problems - rise populism, zenophobia, sterotyping minorities, all of these are lay psychological theory


1:04:00


How we get these theories and what does science say about them is the bridge Brian would like to research - explains to wide audience what we know about human diversity and why its important in evolutionary terms


1:05:45


Interested in how science industry work and how do we come to our current understanding - example, lots of stereotypes of how different races behave - Brian is interested in how culture stereotypes influence sciencitific review and the end science and lead us to a world where we churn out bad science in favour of cultural stereotypes - another example is gender differences and why so much research in the industry conforms to prior assumptions instead of challenging assumptions.


1:06:45


Psychology overlaps with a lot of areas, and crisis in psychology cuts across other areas: medical, pathology, epidemiology, etc - psychology can be ahead of the pack in dealing with these issues and sorting out these problems - and they occur across the sciences - if get psychology crisis corrected, can make a big influence outside of psychology


1:08:00


So many people working on this problem that Brian is hopeful for the future.
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Author and psychologist Brian Hughes talks about how bad science and scientists can lead to harming people. Brian connects the dots between bad psychological science and how that can lead to medical error and patient harm.



We talk about an infamous research trial out of the UK and how its very poor methodology - coupled with what has been characterized as fraudulent behaviour by the researchers - has lead to millions of patients around the globe with the biological disease  Myalgic Encephalomyelitis - or ME for short - to be subjected to medical harm, abuse and trauma.
These ME patients are often prescribed ‘treatment’ that is actually contraindicated and  makes them more ill, sometimes permanently disabling them. 
As one ME researcher noted - I’m paraphrasing her - “They came to the doctor with ME. They left with PTSD.”
This bad science by psychology researchers who have built their reputations, their careers and their bank accounts on their fraudulent research and harmful treatment, have embedded medical error on a global scale by negatively influencing health care systems everywhere and misinforming physicians about the biological nature of ME.
Brian’s book shows how bad psychological science leads to an institutionalized and embedded medical error that permeates our health care systems world wide.



Brians' website


Brian's blog


Brian's book on Amazon


Brian on twitter
 
Brian Hughes Show Notes
 
Psychology is science
 


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Brian born and raised in rural Ireland, small town of less then 2,000 - in '70s Irish economy weak so education considered very important - Brian bookish and good at school and stuck with it - attended university for humanity and arts, psychology degree


0:08:15


Ireland was conservative and psychology a little 'new age' - but for Brian, psychology had philosophical and science bent and novelty - interested in human nature, culture and diversity in spite of small town upbringing - curious about presumptions and assumptions - liked that psych is science and evidence based - became passionate about psych


0:09:45


Brian views psych as science of behavior, broadly defined - being a good psych clinician doesn't automatically make one a good scientist - Brian's area of research focus influences clinical psych like emotional, cognitive, physical stress - especially on cardio vascular and immune health


0:11:45


Brian motivated by the evidenced side of psych research - interested in prolonged stress effect on cardio vascular system because sustained emotional stress will have quantifiable measures in body
 
 
 
Calling out colleagues
 


0:13:00


About Brian's book - Psychology in Crisis - psychology is interesting because it is tempting for all humans to dabble in psych - like to discuss other's behaviour, social problems, decisions - attracts a lot of lay person effort - but some psychologists have succumbed to lay interpretation - psych is only valid with science and lay interpretation is undermining the psychological field


0:16:00


Working title was 'Psychology's Methodological Crisis' - but Brian acknowledges it is not snappy but is ambiguous - but "Psychology in Crisis" is a compelling title


0:17:00


A lot of clinicians frustrated by lack of prioritizing evidence based practice - likewise, a lot of academic psych researchers that are tolerant of looser approach - Psych is a discipline with a wide range of scientists - at one end are hard scientists, and the other end are the hard anti-science at the other - and lots of psychologists in between - lots in health psychology where evidence is not top of their agenda, helping people is - and that is the enemy of good science - the road to hell is paved with good intentions - and that interferes with good science


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p> "The Gift of Cancer" - these are the words of Kelly Anne Branco - and in this interview she shares how the medical error and cancer diagnosis have lead her on a journey to take those tragedies and make a greater meaning personally and through patient advocacy.</p>

 


The medical error impacts every aspect of Kelly Anne’s life, but she has adopted an attitude that forgiveness is a gift you give yourself.

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<p>KELLY ANNE BRANCO - SHOW NOTES:</p>
<p>A sickly child</p>

0:04:50


Kelly Anne was born in Toronto, St Michael's hospital - grew up in Toroto - mother came from Azores - Dad came after his military service - a lot of family on her childhood street - working class neighbourhood - an awesome place to grow up - late 80s moved to Mississauga at age 10


0:06:30


Mississauga is a suburb just west of Toronto - nearly 1 million population now, but like small town back then - Mom did office work, Dad a construction foreman until his traumatic brain injury (TBI) - this made him more difficult to live with - and he couldn't work


0:08:30


Kelly Anne was a sickly child, always problems with her instestines - but her symptoms dismissed and minimized - but in her 20s, Kelly Anne started to have anxiety and panic attacks associated with stomack pain - terrified to leave the house for fear of being sick


0:09:50


Took a while to get her GP on board - who dismissed her symptoms as psychiatric - and sent Kelly Anne to a <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjxru7isKPjAhVmg-AKHagHAHYQFjAAegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGastroenterology&usg=AOvVaw2_-ffLLbvwAeIzK-rKLlM-'>gastroenterologist</a> - but had to fight to get referral - took 6 months to get appointment with gastro, but within 5 minutes had diagnosed Kelly Anne with celiac disease - probably since a child


0:11:15


Kelly Anne goes back to her GP and says I told you so - the GP apologizes - is willing to learn is what Kelly Anne likes about her - this is just a few years before her ovarian cancer symptoms emerged
 
     
 
Medical errors start in early life


0:13:15


Kelly Anne describes celiac diagnosis and treatment - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjZsc7DsKPjAhXsT98KHRuQAD8QFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEsophagogastroduodenoscopy&usg=AOvVaw2hy7Isayw39j2JKCWRVskF'>gastroscopy</a> found very poor absorption of vitamins and minerals - within a year intestines started to heal


0:14:45


January 2012 Kelly Anne stopped getting her period, it was odd - thought maybe it just stress or her birth control pills, so didn't worry about it - but after months passed she started to worry so went to see her GP - sent for ultrasound and they found a mass on right ovary - referred to gynecologist in August 2012


0:17:10


Stressful waiting for appointments, not knowing what's going on with her body - unknown is the worse part - wondering about having kids


0:18:45


Gynecologist asks Kelly Anne about other symptoms, but she has none - doctor asks why she's worried and to stop complaining, lots of women would like not to have their period - doctor is ending meeting and Kelly Anne asks if the doctor is going to examine her - huffily the doctor acquiesces and Kelly Anne has a 'quite rough' examination - dismisses ovarian mass as probably just a cyst


0:20:15


Doctor did not so usual cancer checks (<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjCvrCSsaPjAhVqQt8KHRf7A3kQFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCA-125&usg=AOvVaw0RWH6rTiblIrezCx1Bzdh2r'>CA125 test</a>, biopsy) - just sent Kelly Anne away with new birth control perscription - she felt foolish, an idiot, scared, questioning self - the new birth control pill re-started her period and that reinforced the self-doubt and everything is fine with her body - but later, found out her body was not fine


0:23:15


January 2013 her period stopped again - had surgery to have her gall bladder out, so blamed the stress of surgery - had put on a lot of weight, became pre-diabetic, had seen what diabetes had done to relatives, went on strict diet, causing gall stones - pain in hte middle of the night brought Kelly Anne to ER - gets ultrasound, we'll call you with results, but they didn't call her with the results - she has another gall bladder attack
 

 
Gallstone surgery


0:25:30


Kelly Anne passes gall bladder stone - 'most horrendous' experience - finds out that she has lots of <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiutpvfsaPjAhUNd98KHYfqD8UQFjADegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGallstone&usg=AOvVaw2J3-4PER0klzloRG2DRg0E'>gall stones</a> and needs surgery - took 2 months to get surgery - living off baby food oatmeal for 2 months


0:26:00


What they didn't know was that Kelly Anne had a tumour and a weakened immune system heading into the gall bladder surgery - infection post surgery


0:28:05


Back to family doctor - another ultrasound and MRI showed the 'mass' had doubled in size - Kelly Anne said she did not want to go back to that same gynecologist - Sept 2013 sees new <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiS0IWPsqPjAhVyUN8KHWzcD3EQFjAAegQICBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGynaecology&usg=AOvVaw3AGqvE3EWUWvhXSflZbzF2'>gynecologist</a> - but got her period again in July, but it didn't stop, getting increasingly heavy flow - pain shooting down her leg, anxiety, bloated - started carrying her 'diaper bag' for such heavy bleeding - new gyno runs fertility clinic - did ultrasounds in her office and reviewed by gyno - great bedside manner


0:32:00


Gyno says could be cyst or fibroid - recommends <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjSwd_PsqPjAhVtUd8KHa-SDg8QFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLaparoscopy&usg=AOvVaw2sIUt_ac3WS5lVyHOUiOOH'>laproscopy surgery</a> to remove cyst or fibroid - no discussion of running blood work to rule out cancer - for the next months, symptoms worsen - by January 2014 Kelly Anne has surgery with gyno - finds out that the mass had gotten so big, it had consumed her ovary


0:34:10


gyno couldn't remove the mass via laproscopy - so tries to 'schuck' the mass to seperate the mass from the ovary, but couldn't so decided to remove the whole ovary - she <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj64tnh5_PiAhUDQ60KHbX0BI8QFjACegQIDBAG&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMorcellator&usg=AOvVaw2i_E_GJw79k2vDdEgpwYwF'>morcellated</a> (minced) the mass and ovary - chopped it up and pulled it out - the worse thing you can do with cancer because the cancer cells go everywhere


0:36:50


After surgery, gyno says Kelly Anne will recover in a few days, they'll send the mass to pathology, and she'll see her in 6 weeks - Kelly Anne describes the surgery prep and the gyno's empathy and support and great bedside manner - had a great recovery, felt good
 
 
 
Granulosa Cell Tumor


0:39:30


Back to the gyno for 6 week follow up and Kelly Anne knew that the pathology report would be back - gyno gave a summary of the report, but did not give the pathologists comments or recommendations - gyno says Kelly Anne has <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwisvqqRs6PjAhUnhOAKHSAqAyoQFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGranulosa_cell_tumour&usg=AOvVaw2ASYaavnfuI1T-JdCvEtR5'>granulosa cell tumor</a> but its benign, don't worry, but come back in 6 months 


0:41:30


"I trusted her" - periods normalized, feeling good - felt like normal healthy human being - returned twice to gyno for ultrasounds - gyno says come back in 8 months, June 2015 - but spring 2015 new mild symptoms emerge


0:44:15


Heartburn, bloating but just chocked it up to stress - but still getting period so thought 'its nothing' - but in March called to book June appointment, but got appointment beginning of May - symptoms continued0:46:20Has appointment in mid May for pelvic ultrasound in gyno's office - gyno says there is something big on your ovary and need to get it out - also books Kelly Anne for MRI in mid July


0:47:25


Kelly Anne goes for pelvic MRI - but after, the MRI technician wouldn't look her in the eye - but says, robotically 'you're perfectly fine' - Kelly Anne could tell she was lying - there's something wrong - she actually got the MRI in late May, so had been prioritized - gyno calls Kelly Anne and askd her to come into the office the same day.


0:50:10


Kelly Anne goes to gyno Monday June 1st who says there is a lot of stuff there (ovary) and going to send you to cancer pre-op consult - gyno says just a precaution as her tumour is benign and denies Kelly Anne has cancer and dismisses her concern - Kelly Anne tries to down play her fears, but couldn't imagine it was as bad as it was


0:52:30


On Friday morning, while at work, Kelly Anne gets a call from the cancer centre saying she has to come in that day - Kelly Anne realizes something is very wrong - but is told she has to go to another hospital to pick up her MRI results for the cancer centre
 

 
Its not benign, you've got cancer


0:54:20


Borrows Mom's car to drive to get MRI results at one hospital before driving across city to cancer centre - the admin behaviour and facial expressions showed concern, made Kelly Anne feel weird - sitting in waiting room with chemo patients, feeling out of place, didn't click what was going to happen


0:57:30


Onclogist says 'it looks like you have a recurrence of your cancer that you had last year' - this is the first time any one said she had cancer - shocked, all Kelly Anne could say was 'I have cancer?' - the oncologist says 'yes, you have cancer, you had cancer before' - Kelly Anne tells him she's not been told she had concer before, that the tumour was benigh - the oncologist gets frustrated, 'its not benign, you've got cancer'


0:58:45


Kelly Anne asks how bad the cancer is - the oncologist says it is everywhere on her uterus and left ovary that she'll have to have CT, biopsy, surgery, hysterectomy, chemotherapy, blood work, urine example - left with more appointments and to return on June 19th


1:00:00


At that appointment Kelly Anne had Mom and her boyfriend with her - oncologist says cancer is everywhere in her uterus, tubes, ovaries, colon, bowel - we need take out uterus and cervix and appendix - will be a rough surgery, then chemo


1:01:00


The oncologist suggests Kelly Anne see a fertility doctor to harvest eggs before surgery - Kelly Anne is offended and gets angry - she's already decided that if the choice is to delay surgery for a fertility appointment, her life is more important, so not delaying surgery - but oncologist is insistent and gets Kelly Anne into fertility clinic next day


1:03:10


Fertility clinic examines and says there is nothing they can do because of so much cancer around her ovary 


1:04:00


Kelly Anne has surgery end of June - hysterecotomy, but save bowel - also removed appendix and other abdominal cancerous tissues - surgery a success, but big scar on her belly - 2 months to recover before starting chemotherapy in late August 
 

 
Chemotherapy


1:05:50


Because Kelly Anne was stage 3C, fairly advanced, the oncologist wanted to try something different, very aggressive - treated with <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi-spmvtaPjAhWwdN8KHS1pBrwQFjAKegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FChemotherapy_regimen&usg=AOvVaw1fH6oEm6FJcFbfGPUSzI7U'>BEP</a>, that has 3 drugs, including a platinum drug reserved for advanced cases as it is so hard on the body 


1:07:00


They wanted 3 cycles of chemo - but also had an infection and open wound - still feeling weak, not sure if healthy enough for chemo, but doctors insist to start - after first cycle of 3 weeks whipped out her white blood cells - developed fever, infection and hospitalized for 5 days with IV antibiotics - realizes they may kill me trying to cure me 


1:09:20


Chemo trying to kill cancer cells, but affects other cells - Kelly Anne realizes it is going to get worse before it gets better - Kelly Anne tells her Mom she's not going for second cycle of chemo - but went for her Mother - the worst 3 months of life, felt like she was dying


1:11:40


At the end of a chemo cycle she would have lymphedema, swelling legs, face, nueropathy in hands and feet, losing feeling in arms and legs, intense heart beats, resting on stair case to make it up, vertigo, tinnitus, lots of sleep, loss of hair, pixelated vision - couild only keep oatmeal down due to nausea - it was absolute hell


1:13:20


November 2015 to see oncologist - he says all clear, no evidence of disease - but during chemo, asking herself how this happened - so called gyno office and asked for copies of all her records and went to pick up her records but receptionist pretends she doesn't know Kelly Anne


1:15:00


Kelly Anne subsequenlty learns that when it is cancer, the doctor has to get a second pathology at cancer centre, so she wanted records from the cancer centre too - in reading gyno's notes, the pathologist had said that patient should be referred to onclology for staging and assessment - this is not what gyno told Kelly Anne - but pathologist's January 2014 report said nothing about it being benign.
 

 
Facing mortality


1:16:45


But Kelly Anne discovers that 1.5 years of gyno's notes are missing - and when Kelly Anne gets hospital records, they had no notes from prior to her surgery, no 2nd pathology from gyno doctor - Kelly Anne livid, this is not right - but puts it aside as she is so sick from chemo - lots of support for cancer patients, but when done chemo done and given NED label - 'no evidence of disease' - support ends


1:19:45


That's when the weight of diagnosis and loss of health and grieving hit Kelly Anne - a real eye-opener to address your own mortality - wanted desperately for normalcy - took 6 months to focus on recovery and return to work


1:21:00


But in March 2016 at follow up scan, they found more disease - that's when she started to mobilize to learn and connect with people online with granulousis cell tumours to share - met people who had lived with it for 15 - 20 years - learned that if she had treatment when initially diagnosed, she could have a better potential outcome


1:24:00


Learned of hormone therapy to maintain stability - was a sponge aborbing all the research - tranferred to a medical oncologist (vs earlier gyno oncologist) - wanted to try hormone therapy


1:25:30


Kelly Anne discovers 3 types of doctors: those that want to heal people, have empathy, compassion and listen - also science geeks want to heal people, but only want to deal with the person from neck down - the 3rd type is all ego, love the prestige and misdiagnose - but she had a great doctor who was open to try 


1:27:00


Did a couple of months of a medication, hormone therapy - ovarian cancer they now know, is driven by hormones - hormone therapy suppresses hormones - may keep patient stable, and live a long time with cancer, or shrink the cancer - may be able to lead a normal life - whereas chemotherapy is much harder on the body


1:30:20


But the hormone therapy didn't work for Kelly Anne and cancer progressed and they found it on her liver too - so advised to try a different chemo drug and Kelly Anne agreed and started it March 2017
 

 
"Forgiveness is a gift you give to yourself"


1:32:00


Different side effect experience on the new chemo drug, but sill lots of nausea and fatigue - from her previous chemo, Kelly Anne became pre-diabetic due to the steroids - this time for chemo, she only did steroids with the infusion - took <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjblPrkt6PjAhXFTd8KHb72ACQQFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCannabidiol&usg=AOvVaw0rjL3yWOnf4YWn8ZY2fxcC'>CBD</a> oil instead and was not pre-diabetic by end of chemo - also took other supplements to help with side effects


1:34:15


But her cancer started to grow exponentially be the end of chemo - felt like she did all this for nothing - during this time Kelly Anne also sought legal advice about her mised diagnosis - the lawyer said that she did have a case, but the reality was that in Canada doctor's are protected by the <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjRmtv3t6PjAhVnS98KHXWcDQ0QFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cmpa-acpm.ca%2F&usg=AOvVaw3-SL3ugfED9P23K56-LRq4'>Canadian Medical Professionals Association</a>


1:35:00


The lawyer says - Tax payers pay the premium that pay the physician's lawyers - will be at least 4 or 5 years before a trial because they always fight and take it to trial - they will put you on the stand and blame you for not following up - it is very difficult to litigate these cases in Canada - it will cost you money and the most you can sue for under the law is your lost wages - and then your employer can sue you to recover the disability payments they paid to you - lot of work for minimal return


1:37:00


In Ontario, part of the physicians agreement with the provincial govt, is that the Ministry pays the CMPA premium - and the Ministry is funded by tax payer dollars - in the news the <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi836i8uaPjAhVCTd8KHRyYCyQQFjAAegQIBhAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cpso.on.ca%2F&usg=AOvVaw3Y3S6SSIpujOgtAjav7YRd'>College of Physiciand and Surgeons of Ontario (CPSO)</a> has had problems with disciplining their doctors


1:39:00


"Forgiveness is a gift you give to yourself" is one of Kelly Anne's values - willing to say the gyno doctor made a mistake, they are human - need to move away from mode of thinking of doctor's know everything - but I needed to know the gyno had learned her lesson so no other woman would go through what Kelly Anne did - so did not move forward with a law suit - instead filed a complaint with the CPSO that the gyno had practiced outside of her area of expertise - she's not an oncologist, just a gynecologist
 

 
Stopping the medical harm


1:41:10


Complaint process includes a rebuttal from the phsycian - Kelly Anne was gobsmacked that the doctor would still profess that Kelly Anne never had cancer, she was lying, she was wrong


1:42:29


Kelly Anne replies that the gyno failed to proved Kelly Anne with a year of her file - that Kelly Anne did have cancer and here's the report - but Kelly Anne got great support from the cancer community in preparing her reply 


1:44:30


Gyno claims to have called the cancer centre, but no records exist - and not proper protocol by gyno


1:45:45


With ovarian cancer, it is not uncommon for doctors to ignore or mis-attribute symptoms - that's why mortality rate so high for ovarian cancer - 50-60% diagnosed pass away in 5 years


1:47:10


Complaint went to CPSO committee, 6 months later Kelly Anne got the decision - they said they sent gyno to remediation - made her change her practice so no longer allowed to do ultrasounds in her office without a radiologist reviewing the scans


1:49:00


CPSO not looking to see if other of gyno's patients also harmed - Kelly Anne's doctor is 'type # 3", it is all about her ego 


1:50:30


Kelly Anne hopes gyno has learned her lesson and that other women aren't harmed - making her change her practice is a huge win because a radiologist will review scans - hopefully remediation and the slap on the wrist will help people get right diagnosis - prevention and early diagnosis is key


1:51:45


Has been a spiritual journy - 'forgiveness is a gift you give yourself' - when facing your mortality, start to ask what is my purpose, what do I want out of this live, what do I regret - wants to leave place better then I found it - went to CPSO and made complaint


1:53:00


Kelly Anne has come to a place where she accepts this is her journey and this is how it unfolded


1:54:00


Finished chemo July 2017, disease really accelerated - fluid in lung, abdomen, couln't eat, couldn't breathe, constant pain - made decsion to do surgery again - drain lung first by going in through rib cage with a tube and pump out fluid, 2 litres - could breathe when she woke up, felt marvellous - then being able to walk and eat, had regular bowel movements
 

 
Dying


1:57:00


Was dying before surgery - but they were able to resect her liver, removed spleen, resected bowel and reattach - cleaned as much disease / cancer they could see, but some left behind - removed 5 litres of fluid - 170 staples and tension sutures - lost a lot of blood - woke up without pain meds - lots of pain, had to wear binders to hold stitches - under for 9 hours of surgery


1:59:30


Heart took a hit - took 8 months for resting heart rate to get back to normal - but within 2 months more cancer - at this point it is chronic, not hoping for a cure - stability is realistic goal - have met women that have lived 20 30 years - just matter of finding right combo of meds - ongoing discussions with oncology doc about meds to try


2:03:07


In 2017 sought 2nd opinion from US hospital - and oncology doc was open to their opinion2:04:30Canada behind updated cancer monitoring - the last year has been trying to find right meds combo - including $10k a dose med 4 times, but it didn't work - new med means small tumours have stopped growing, medium sized tumours are slowing down their growth, but large tumours are being stubborn - added another med suppresses hormones and seems to be helping


2:07:30


Some meds tolerated better than others - side effect caused blood clots and trips to emergency room - pain and fatigue - can sleep 12 hour and nap 4 hours and feel like need more - losing hope will be able to return to work
 



 
 Making meaning out of life


2:09:00


Gifts from this experience is advocating with <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiIzffEu6PjAhVCVd8KHSa8CUIQFjAAegQIBhAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fovariancanada.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw0vKqgQ8Bjrn9wj0OK4KF4H'>Ovarian Cancer Canada</a> and a program called Survivors Teaching Students for medical schools and nurses and share their stories - worked with pharma companies, share her experience at conferences - also Patient and Family Advisor for psychosocial care - when you're ill it affects physical, emotional and spiritual


2:12:30


Whole life trajectory changed, want something different - healing journey - meet, connect, bond with other patients - a lot of good has come out of this tragedy - there is old Abroriginal saying that when you heal yourself, you heal 7 generations behind and forward - healing family relationships because of cancer experience


2:15:15


Wouldn't trade cancer because all of these great things have happened - perspective shift is the gift of cancer - connecting deeply with others is meaningful is liberating - feels freer, happier, more joyous having gone through all this - I like the person I am now then I was before


2:18:10


When you're sick you realize you can't take anything with you, and what you really want is to have the people that love you, around you - I've accepted and embraced that this is how my life is unfolding
 
The Gift of Cancer


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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> "The Gift of Cancer" - these are the words of Kelly Anne Branco - and in this interview she shares how the medical error and cancer diagnosis have lead her on a journey to take those tragedies and make a greater meaning personally and through patient advocacy.</p>

 


The medical error impacts every aspect of Kelly Anne’s life, but she has adopted an attitude that forgiveness is a gift you give yourself.

<p> </p>
<p>KELLY ANNE BRANCO - SHOW NOTES:</p>
<p>A sickly child</p>

0:04:50


Kelly Anne was born in Toronto, St Michael's hospital - grew up in Toroto - mother came from Azores - Dad came after his military service - a lot of family on her childhood street - working class neighbourhood - an awesome place to grow up - late 80s moved to Mississauga at age 10


0:06:30


Mississauga is a suburb just west of Toronto - nearly 1 million population now, but like small town back then - Mom did office work, Dad a construction foreman until his traumatic brain injury (TBI) - this made him more difficult to live with - and he couldn't work


0:08:30


Kelly Anne was a sickly child, always problems with her instestines - but her symptoms dismissed and minimized - but in her 20s, Kelly Anne started to have anxiety and panic attacks associated with stomack pain - terrified to leave the house for fear of being sick


0:09:50


Took a while to get her GP on board - who dismissed her symptoms as psychiatric - and sent Kelly Anne to a <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjxru7isKPjAhVmg-AKHagHAHYQFjAAegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGastroenterology&usg=AOvVaw2_-ffLLbvwAeIzK-rKLlM-'>gastroenterologist</a> - but had to fight to get referral - took 6 months to get appointment with gastro, but within 5 minutes had diagnosed Kelly Anne with celiac disease - probably since a child


0:11:15


Kelly Anne goes back to her GP and says I told you so - the GP apologizes - is willing to learn is what Kelly Anne likes about her - this is just a few years before her ovarian cancer symptoms emerged
 
     
 
Medical errors start in early life


0:13:15


Kelly Anne describes celiac diagnosis and treatment - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjZsc7DsKPjAhXsT98KHRuQAD8QFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEsophagogastroduodenoscopy&usg=AOvVaw2hy7Isayw39j2JKCWRVskF'>gastroscopy</a> found very poor absorption of vitamins and minerals - within a year intestines started to heal


0:14:45


January 2012 Kelly Anne stopped getting her period, it was odd - thought maybe it just stress or her birth control pills, so didn't worry about it - but after months passed she started to worry so went to see her GP - sent for ultrasound and they found a mass on right ovary - referred to gynecologist in August 2012


0:17:10


Stressful waiting for appointments, not knowing what's going on with her body - unknown is the worse part - wondering about having kids


0:18:45


Gynecologist asks Kelly Anne about other symptoms, but she has none - doctor asks why she's worried and to stop complaining, lots of women would like not to have their period - doctor is ending meeting and Kelly Anne asks if the doctor is going to examine her - huffily the doctor acquiesces and Kelly Anne has a 'quite rough' examination - dismisses ovarian mass as probably just a cyst


0:20:15


Doctor did not so usual cancer checks (<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjCvrCSsaPjAhVqQt8KHRf7A3kQFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCA-125&usg=AOvVaw0RWH6rTiblIrezCx1Bzdh2r'>CA125 test</a>, biopsy) - just sent Kelly Anne away with new birth control perscription - she felt foolish, an idiot, scared, questioning self - the new birth control pill re-started her period and that reinforced the self-doubt and everything is fine with her body - but later, found out her body was not fine


0:23:15


January 2013 her period stopped again - had surgery to have her gall bladder out, so blamed the stress of surgery - had put on a lot of weight, became pre-diabetic, had seen what diabetes had done to relatives, went on strict diet, causing gall stones - pain in hte middle of the night brought Kelly Anne to ER - gets ultrasound, we'll call you with results, but they didn't call her with the results - she has another gall bladder attack
 

 
Gallstone surgery


0:25:30


Kelly Anne passes gall bladder stone - 'most horrendous' experience - finds out that she has lots of <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiutpvfsaPjAhUNd98KHYfqD8UQFjADegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGallstone&usg=AOvVaw2J3-4PER0klzloRG2DRg0E'>gall stones</a> and needs surgery - took 2 months to get surgery - living off baby food oatmeal for 2 months


0:26:00


What they didn't know was that Kelly Anne had a tumour and a weakened immune system heading into the gall bladder surgery - infection post surgery


0:28:05


Back to family doctor - another ultrasound and MRI showed the 'mass' had doubled in size - Kelly Anne said she did not want to go back to that same gynecologist - Sept 2013 sees new <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiS0IWPsqPjAhVyUN8KHWzcD3EQFjAAegQICBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGynaecology&usg=AOvVaw3AGqvE3EWUWvhXSflZbzF2'>gynecologist</a> - but got her period again in July, but it didn't stop, getting increasingly heavy flow - pain shooting down her leg, anxiety, bloated - started carrying her 'diaper bag' for such heavy bleeding - new gyno runs fertility clinic - did ultrasounds in her office and reviewed by gyno - great bedside manner


0:32:00


Gyno says could be cyst or fibroid - recommends <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjSwd_PsqPjAhVtUd8KHa-SDg8QFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLaparoscopy&usg=AOvVaw2sIUt_ac3WS5lVyHOUiOOH'>laproscopy surgery</a> to remove cyst or fibroid - no discussion of running blood work to rule out cancer - for the next months, symptoms worsen - by January 2014 Kelly Anne has surgery with gyno - finds out that the mass had gotten so big, it had consumed her ovary


0:34:10


gyno couldn't remove the mass via laproscopy - so tries to 'schuck' the mass to seperate the mass from the ovary, but couldn't so decided to remove the whole ovary - she <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj64tnh5_PiAhUDQ60KHbX0BI8QFjACegQIDBAG&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMorcellator&usg=AOvVaw2i_E_GJw79k2vDdEgpwYwF'>morcellated</a> (minced) the mass and ovary - chopped it up and pulled it out - the worse thing you can do with cancer because the cancer cells go everywhere


0:36:50


After surgery, gyno says Kelly Anne will recover in a few days, they'll send the mass to pathology, and she'll see her in 6 weeks - Kelly Anne describes the surgery prep and the gyno's empathy and support and great bedside manner - had a great recovery, felt good
 
 
 
Granulosa Cell Tumor


0:39:30


Back to the gyno for 6 week follow up and Kelly Anne knew that the pathology report would be back - gyno gave a summary of the report, but did not give the pathologists comments or recommendations - gyno says Kelly Anne has <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwisvqqRs6PjAhUnhOAKHSAqAyoQFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGranulosa_cell_tumour&usg=AOvVaw2ASYaavnfuI1T-JdCvEtR5'>granulosa cell tumor</a> but its benign, don't worry, but come back in 6 months 


0:41:30


"I trusted her" - periods normalized, feeling good - felt like normal healthy human being - returned twice to gyno for ultrasounds - gyno says come back in 8 months, June 2015 - but spring 2015 new mild symptoms emerge


0:44:15


Heartburn, bloating but just chocked it up to stress - but still getting period so thought 'its nothing' - but in March called to book June appointment, but got appointment beginning of May - symptoms continued0:46:20Has appointment in mid May for pelvic ultrasound in gyno's office - gyno says there is something big on your ovary and need to get it out - also books Kelly Anne for MRI in mid July


0:47:25


Kelly Anne goes for pelvic MRI - but after, the MRI technician wouldn't look her in the eye - but says, robotically 'you're perfectly fine' - Kelly Anne could tell she was lying - there's something wrong - she actually got the MRI in late May, so had been prioritized - gyno calls Kelly Anne and askd her to come into the office the same day.


0:50:10


Kelly Anne goes to gyno Monday June 1st who says there is a lot of stuff there (ovary) and going to send you to cancer pre-op consult - gyno says just a precaution as her tumour is benign and denies Kelly Anne has cancer and dismisses her concern - Kelly Anne tries to down play her fears, but couldn't imagine it was as bad as it was


0:52:30


On Friday morning, while at work, Kelly Anne gets a call from the cancer centre saying she has to come in that day - Kelly Anne realizes something is very wrong - but is told she has to go to another hospital to pick up her MRI results for the cancer centre
 

 
Its not benign, you've got cancer


0:54:20


Borrows Mom's car to drive to get MRI results at one hospital before driving across city to cancer centre - the admin behaviour and facial expressions showed concern, made Kelly Anne feel weird - sitting in waiting room with chemo patients, feeling out of place, didn't click what was going to happen


0:57:30


Onclogist says 'it looks like you have a recurrence of your cancer that you had last year' - this is the first time any one said she had cancer - shocked, all Kelly Anne could say was 'I have cancer?' - the oncologist says 'yes, you have cancer, you had cancer before' - Kelly Anne tells him she's not been told she had concer before, that the tumour was benigh - the oncologist gets frustrated, 'its not benign, you've got cancer'


0:58:45


Kelly Anne asks how bad the cancer is - the oncologist says it is everywhere on her uterus and left ovary that she'll have to have CT, biopsy, surgery, hysterectomy, chemotherapy, blood work, urine example - left with more appointments and to return on June 19th


1:00:00


At that appointment Kelly Anne had Mom and her boyfriend with her - oncologist says cancer is everywhere in her uterus, tubes, ovaries, colon, bowel - we need take out uterus and cervix and appendix - will be a rough surgery, then chemo


1:01:00


The oncologist suggests Kelly Anne see a fertility doctor to harvest eggs before surgery - Kelly Anne is offended and gets angry - she's already decided that if the choice is to delay surgery for a fertility appointment, her life is more important, so not delaying surgery - but oncologist is insistent and gets Kelly Anne into fertility clinic next day


1:03:10


Fertility clinic examines and says there is nothing they can do because of so much cancer around her ovary 


1:04:00


Kelly Anne has surgery end of June - hysterecotomy, but save bowel - also removed appendix and other abdominal cancerous tissues - surgery a success, but big scar on her belly - 2 months to recover before starting chemotherapy in late August 
 

 
Chemotherapy


1:05:50


Because Kelly Anne was stage 3C, fairly advanced, the oncologist wanted to try something different, very aggressive - treated with <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi-spmvtaPjAhWwdN8KHS1pBrwQFjAKegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FChemotherapy_regimen&usg=AOvVaw1fH6oEm6FJcFbfGPUSzI7U'>BEP</a>, that has 3 drugs, including a platinum drug reserved for advanced cases as it is so hard on the body 


1:07:00


They wanted 3 cycles of chemo - but also had an infection and open wound - still feeling weak, not sure if healthy enough for chemo, but doctors insist to start - after first cycle of 3 weeks whipped out her white blood cells - developed fever, infection and hospitalized for 5 days with IV antibiotics - realizes they may kill me trying to cure me 


1:09:20


Chemo trying to kill cancer cells, but affects other cells - Kelly Anne realizes it is going to get worse before it gets better - Kelly Anne tells her Mom she's not going for second cycle of chemo - but went for her Mother - the worst 3 months of life, felt like she was dying


1:11:40


At the end of a chemo cycle she would have lymphedema, swelling legs, face, nueropathy in hands and feet, losing feeling in arms and legs, intense heart beats, resting on stair case to make it up, vertigo, tinnitus, lots of sleep, loss of hair, pixelated vision - couild only keep oatmeal down due to nausea - it was absolute hell


1:13:20


November 2015 to see oncologist - he says all clear, no evidence of disease - but during chemo, asking herself how this happened - so called gyno office and asked for copies of all her records and went to pick up her records but receptionist pretends she doesn't know Kelly Anne


1:15:00


Kelly Anne subsequenlty learns that when it is cancer, the doctor has to get a second pathology at cancer centre, so she wanted records from the cancer centre too - in reading gyno's notes, the pathologist had said that patient should be referred to onclology for staging and assessment - this is not what gyno told Kelly Anne - but pathologist's January 2014 report said nothing about it being benign.
 

 
Facing mortality


1:16:45


But Kelly Anne discovers that 1.5 years of gyno's notes are missing - and when Kelly Anne gets hospital records, they had no notes from prior to her surgery, no 2nd pathology from gyno doctor - Kelly Anne livid, this is not right - but puts it aside as she is so sick from chemo - lots of support for cancer patients, but when done chemo done and given NED label - 'no evidence of disease' - support ends


1:19:45


That's when the weight of diagnosis and loss of health and grieving hit Kelly Anne - a real eye-opener to address your own mortality - wanted desperately for normalcy - took 6 months to focus on recovery and return to work


1:21:00


But in March 2016 at follow up scan, they found more disease - that's when she started to mobilize to learn and connect with people online with granulousis cell tumours to share - met people who had lived with it for 15 - 20 years - learned that if she had treatment when initially diagnosed, she could have a better potential outcome


1:24:00


Learned of hormone therapy to maintain stability - was a sponge aborbing all the research - tranferred to a medical oncologist (vs earlier gyno oncologist) - wanted to try hormone therapy


1:25:30


Kelly Anne discovers 3 types of doctors: those that want to heal people, have empathy, compassion and listen - also science geeks want to heal people, but only want to deal with the person from neck down - the 3rd type is all ego, love the prestige and misdiagnose - but she had a great doctor who was open to try 


1:27:00


Did a couple of months of a medication, hormone therapy - ovarian cancer they now know, is driven by hormones - hormone therapy suppresses hormones - may keep patient stable, and live a long time with cancer, or shrink the cancer - may be able to lead a normal life - whereas chemotherapy is much harder on the body


1:30:20


But the hormone therapy didn't work for Kelly Anne and cancer progressed and they found it on her liver too - so advised to try a different chemo drug and Kelly Anne agreed and started it March 2017
 

 
"Forgiveness is a gift you give to yourself"


1:32:00


Different side effect experience on the new chemo drug, but sill lots of nausea and fatigue - from her previous chemo, Kelly Anne became pre-diabetic due to the steroids - this time for chemo, she only did steroids with the infusion - took <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjblPrkt6PjAhXFTd8KHb72ACQQFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCannabidiol&usg=AOvVaw0rjL3yWOnf4YWn8ZY2fxcC'>CBD</a> oil instead and was not pre-diabetic by end of chemo - also took other supplements to help with side effects


1:34:15


But her cancer started to grow exponentially be the end of chemo - felt like she did all this for nothing - during this time Kelly Anne also sought legal advice about her mised diagnosis - the lawyer said that she did have a case, but the reality was that in Canada doctor's are protected by the <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjRmtv3t6PjAhVnS98KHXWcDQ0QFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cmpa-acpm.ca%2F&usg=AOvVaw3-SL3ugfED9P23K56-LRq4'>Canadian Medical Professionals Association</a>


1:35:00


The lawyer says - Tax payers pay the premium that pay the physician's lawyers - will be at least 4 or 5 years before a trial because they always fight and take it to trial - they will put you on the stand and blame you for not following up - it is very difficult to litigate these cases in Canada - it will cost you money and the most you can sue for under the law is your lost wages - and then your employer can sue you to recover the disability payments they paid to you - lot of work for minimal return


1:37:00


In Ontario, part of the physicians agreement with the provincial govt, is that the Ministry pays the CMPA premium - and the Ministry is funded by tax payer dollars - in the news the <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi836i8uaPjAhVCTd8KHRyYCyQQFjAAegQIBhAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cpso.on.ca%2F&usg=AOvVaw3Y3S6SSIpujOgtAjav7YRd'>College of Physiciand and Surgeons of Ontario (CPSO)</a> has had problems with disciplining their doctors


1:39:00


"Forgiveness is a gift you give to yourself" is one of Kelly Anne's values - willing to say the gyno doctor made a mistake, they are human - need to move away from mode of thinking of doctor's know everything - but I needed to know the gyno had learned her lesson so no other woman would go through what Kelly Anne did - so did not move forward with a law suit - instead filed a complaint with the CPSO that the gyno had practiced outside of her area of expertise - she's not an oncologist, just a gynecologist
 

 
Stopping the medical harm


1:41:10


Complaint process includes a rebuttal from the phsycian - Kelly Anne was gobsmacked that the doctor would still profess that Kelly Anne never had cancer, she was lying, she was wrong


1:42:29


Kelly Anne replies that the gyno failed to proved Kelly Anne with a year of her file - that Kelly Anne did have cancer and here's the report - but Kelly Anne got great support from the cancer community in preparing her reply 


1:44:30


Gyno claims to have called the cancer centre, but no records exist - and not proper protocol by gyno


1:45:45


With ovarian cancer, it is not uncommon for doctors to ignore or mis-attribute symptoms - that's why mortality rate so high for ovarian cancer - 50-60% diagnosed pass away in 5 years


1:47:10


Complaint went to CPSO committee, 6 months later Kelly Anne got the decision - they said they sent gyno to remediation - made her change her practice so no longer allowed to do ultrasounds in her office without a radiologist reviewing the scans


1:49:00


CPSO not looking to see if other of gyno's patients also harmed - Kelly Anne's doctor is 'type # 3", it is all about her ego 


1:50:30


Kelly Anne hopes gyno has learned her lesson and that other women aren't harmed - making her change her practice is a huge win because a radiologist will review scans - hopefully remediation and the slap on the wrist will help people get right diagnosis - prevention and early diagnosis is key


1:51:45


Has been a spiritual journy - 'forgiveness is a gift you give yourself' - when facing your mortality, start to ask what is my purpose, what do I want out of this live, what do I regret - wants to leave place better then I found it - went to CPSO and made complaint


1:53:00


Kelly Anne has come to a place where she accepts this is her journey and this is how it unfolded


1:54:00


Finished chemo July 2017, disease really accelerated - fluid in lung, abdomen, couln't eat, couldn't breathe, constant pain - made decsion to do surgery again - drain lung first by going in through rib cage with a tube and pump out fluid, 2 litres - could breathe when she woke up, felt marvellous - then being able to walk and eat, had regular bowel movements
 

 
Dying


1:57:00


Was dying before surgery - but they were able to resect her liver, removed spleen, resected bowel and reattach - cleaned as much disease / cancer they could see, but some left behind - removed 5 litres of fluid - 170 staples and tension sutures - lost a lot of blood - woke up without pain meds - lots of pain, had to wear binders to hold stitches - under for 9 hours of surgery


1:59:30


Heart took a hit - took 8 months for resting heart rate to get back to normal - but within 2 months more cancer - at this point it is chronic, not hoping for a cure - stability is realistic goal - have met women that have lived 20 30 years - just matter of finding right combo of meds - ongoing discussions with oncology doc about meds to try


2:03:07


In 2017 sought 2nd opinion from US hospital - and oncology doc was open to their opinion2:04:30Canada behind updated cancer monitoring - the last year has been trying to find right meds combo - including $10k a dose med 4 times, but it didn't work - new med means small tumours have stopped growing, medium sized tumours are slowing down their growth, but large tumours are being stubborn - added another med suppresses hormones and seems to be helping


2:07:30


Some meds tolerated better than others - side effect caused blood clots and trips to emergency room - pain and fatigue - can sleep 12 hour and nap 4 hours and feel like need more - losing hope will be able to return to work
 



 
 Making meaning out of life


2:09:00


Gifts from this experience is advocating with <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiIzffEu6PjAhVCVd8KHSa8CUIQFjAAegQIBhAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fovariancanada.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw0vKqgQ8Bjrn9wj0OK4KF4H'>Ovarian Cancer Canada</a> and a program called Survivors Teaching Students for medical schools and nurses and share their stories - worked with pharma companies, share her experience at conferences - also Patient and Family Advisor for psychosocial care - when you're ill it affects physical, emotional and spiritual


2:12:30


Whole life trajectory changed, want something different - healing journey - meet, connect, bond with other patients - a lot of good has come out of this tragedy - there is old Abroriginal saying that when you heal yourself, you heal 7 generations behind and forward - healing family relationships because of cancer experience


2:15:15


Wouldn't trade cancer because all of these great things have happened - perspective shift is the gift of cancer - connecting deeply with others is meaningful is liberating - feels freer, happier, more joyous having gone through all this - I like the person I am now then I was before


2:18:10


When you're sick you realize you can't take anything with you, and what you really want is to have the people that love you, around you - I've accepted and embraced that this is how my life is unfolding
 
The Gift of Cancer


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The medical error impacts every aspect of Kelly Anne’s life, but she has adopted an attitude that forgiveness is a gift you give yourself.

 
KELLY ANNE BRANCO - SHOW NOTES:
A sickly child

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Kelly Anne was born in Toronto, St Michael's hospital - grew up in Toroto - mother came from Azores - Dad came after his military service - a lot of family on her childhood street - working class neighbourhood - an awesome place to grow up - late 80s moved to Mississauga at age 10


0:06:30


Mississauga is a suburb just west of Toronto - nearly 1 million population now, but like small town back then - Mom did office work, Dad a construction foreman until his traumatic brain injury (TBI) - this made him more difficult to live with - and he couldn't work


0:08:30


Kelly Anne was a sickly child, always problems with her instestines - but her symptoms dismissed and minimized - but in her 20s, Kelly Anne started to have anxiety and panic attacks associated with stomack pain - terrified to leave the house for fear of being sick


0:09:50


Took a while to get her GP on board - who dismissed her symptoms as psychiatric - and sent Kelly Anne to a gastroenterologist - but had to fight to get referral - took 6 months to get appointment with gastro, but within 5 minutes had diagnosed Kelly Anne with celiac disease - probably since a child


0:11:15


Kelly Anne goes back to her GP and says I told you so - the GP apologizes - is willing to learn is what Kelly Anne likes about her - this is just a few years before her ovarian cancer symptoms emerged
 
     
 
Medical errors start in early life


0:13:15


Kelly Anne describes celiac diagnosis and treatment - gastroscopy found very poor absorption of vitamins and minerals - within a year intestines started to heal


0:14:45


January 2012 Kelly Anne stopped getting her period, it was odd - thought maybe it just stress or her birth control pills, so didn't worry about it - but after months passed she started to worry so went to see her GP - sent for ultrasound and they found a mass on right ovary - referred to gynecologist in August 2012


0:17:10


Stressful waiting for appointments, not knowing what's going on with her body - unknown is the worse part - wondering about having kids


0:18:45


Gynecologist asks Kelly Anne about other symptoms, but she has none - doctor asks why she's worried and to stop complaining, lots of women would like not to have their period - doctor is ending meeting and Kelly Anne asks if the doctor is going to examine her - huffily the doctor acquiesces and Kelly Anne has a 'quite rough' examination - dismisses ovarian mass as probably just a cyst


0:20:15


Doctor did not so usual cancer checks (CA125 test, biopsy) - just sent Kelly Anne away with new birth control perscription - she felt foolish, an idiot, scared, questioning self - the new birth control pill re-started her period and that reinforced the self-doubt and everything is fine with her body - but later, found out her body was not fine


0:23:15


January 2013 her period stopped again - had surgery to have her gall bladder out, so blamed the stress of surgery - had put on a lot of weight, became pre-diabetic, had seen what diabetes had done to relatives, went on strict diet, causing gall stones - pain in hte middle of the night brought Kelly Anne to ER - gets ultrasound, we'll call you with results, but they didn't call her with the results - she has another gall bladder attack
 

 
Gallstone surgery


0:25:30


Kelly Anne passes gall bladder stone - 'most horrendous' experience - finds out that she has lots of gall stones and needs surgery - took 2 months to get surgery - living off baby food oatmeal for 2 months


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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Donna Penner was having routine surgery but something went horribly wrong and  through the failure of her anesthesiologist - Donna was awake during her abdominal surgery, but also paralyzed so she couldn’t tell the surgical team. Donna could feel every excruciating scalpel cut, and the surgeon moving her internal organs around.  </p>
<p> </p>
<p>In torturous pain, and suffocating through lack of oxygen, Donna resigns herself to death and mentally says good bye to her family. But the surgeon notices Donna’s heart rate is very rapid and she can hear him ask the anesthesioligist why Donna is in distress. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Donna feels a sense of relief that the surgeon has noticed and that she is about to be saved from death. But then she hears the nurse reply that the anesthesiologist has left the operating room. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>The surgery continues, the excruciating pain continues, the suffocating continues - as death nears, Donna has an out of body experience and is immersed in warmth and safety and she welcomes its sweet embrace.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>But death does not come in that moment, and Donna finds herself in her body again - with the pain and suffering.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>But the medical errors do not end there - as the surgery ends Donna can’t believe she has survived, but her breathing tube is removed prematurely and Donna’s paralyzed body cannot breathe on its own and she starts to suffocate again - the nurse yells at Donna to breathe, but she can’t….</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p>I wish I could say Donna’s trauma from the medical system ended after the botched surgery, but as you are about to hear, Donna’s experience with a system designed to protect physicians and undermine patient victims adds another layer of trauma onto her life.</p>
<p> <a href='https://twitter.com/BrianDonnaPenn1'>Follow Donna on twitter</a> </p>
<p> </p>
SHOW NOTES - TIME STAMPED
<p>0:04:40</p>
<p>Donna grew up on a farm in Manitoba, Canada, middle child of 3, cows, dogs, cats, hogs - very happy childhood - raised to be responsible, honest, hard working, good values and qualities - parents did a good job</p>
<p>0:07:20</p>
<p>Donna's health care error started several years ago when she had abdominal pain and went to the local clinic - kept for 24 hours they didn't know what was going on - but transferred Donna to another hospital - had laproscopic surgery scheduled</p>
<p>0:08:10</p>
<p>Donna has had surgeries before, anasthetic before no problem - but feeling anxious this time and asked for sedative and was refused - the first thing that went wrong - taken to operating room (OR) and prepped for surgery - anesthesiologist said to Donna take a deep breath and Donna 'was out'.</p>
<p>0:09:15</p>
<p>The next thing she remembers is waking up and hearing sounds in the OR and thinking 'good it's over' and know I can feel relaxed and don't need to feel nervous any more' - and then the surgeon spoke and what he said haunts Donna to this day: "Scalpel please." - then Donna felt the first incision - excruciating pain, beyond description</p>
<p>0:10:25</p>
<p>Donna tries to alert surgeon and staff that she is awake and tried to scream - but couldn't open her mouth - couldn't sit up - realized she's paralyzed by the paralytic medication used for abdominal surgery - so the anasthesia did not take effect, but the paralytic did - Donna could not scream or move but could hear her heart rate on the monitor as it sky rocketed to 147 according to the surgeon (later) - Donna starts to panic - trapped in body and couldn't do anything.</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>0:12:00</p>
<p>As Donna heart rate quickens, she needs to breath faster to supply more oxygen but she couldn't take a breath because she was intubated (tube in her throat to ventilator that breathes for her) - but the ventilator set at 7 breathes per minute, but what Donna needed was much more - so she felt like she was suffocating</p>
<p>0:13:40</p>
<p>"She's in distress, she's in distress" surgeon says, asks anasthesiologist what's wrong - a nurse replies that the anasthesiologist is not in the OR anymore and doesn't know where he is - Donna panic increases - surgeon tells the nurse to find the anasthesiologist immediately - Donna's hears the nurse leave the OR - after what felt like an eternity, anesthesiologist returns - Donna feels relieved that he will realize she's not unconscious and will save her from the pain</p>
<p>0:15:15</p>
<p>That did not happen - anesthesiologist gave her another medication via IV, but did not make Donna go back to sleep - for the next 90 minutes Donna felt the surgery happen - insertion of instruments into her abdomen, exploring, she could her the surgeon comment as he looked at her appendix, kidneys, colon - the whole time Donna is experiencing excruciating pain while he pushes her organs around</p>
<p>0:16:25</p>
<p>Donna hears the surgeon exclaim that there is a lot of blood, and this is not good - Donna continues to panic and wonders why they are not noticing she's in trouble - Donna didn't think she was going to live through it - the pain was so bad she thought she was going to die - this is every surgery patients nightmare </p>
<p>0:17:35</p>
<p>Donna thought about her kids, her husband and worried that if she died they would never know what her last few hours of life were like, the pain and torture - Donna resigns herself to death and says her mental good byes to her family - and ask God to take her away from the agony and pain of surgery.</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>0:18:45</p>
<p>Surgery ends and Donna feels relief that she survived the surgery, but she's still in an immense amout of pain - Donna notices she can mover her tongue a little bit as paralytic wears off - starts to wiggle breathing tube in her mouth to get their attention - anesthesiologist noticed and he removed the tube from her throat - but Donna is still paralyzed and cannot breathe and starts to suffocate and realizes she's about to die - the nurse starts telling Donna to breathe, but Donna cannot breathe</p>
<p>0:20:45</p>
<p>Something amazing happens - Donna has an out of body experience - she could hear OR sounds, voices - in a place somewhere between heaven and earth - Donna could feel a presence and felt it was God with her - her fear left, the pain was gone, it was warm and she felt safe and protected - Donna smiles when she thinks of this - at this point she knew she would be okay whether she lived or she died</p>
<p>0:22:20</p>
<p>Donna prayed and asked God to take her - she heard a voice that said she would be okay - that was reassuring - Donna gets very emotional when she thinks of that - Donna hears the anesthesiologist say 'bag her, bag her' and put a mask on her face to force air into her lungs - immediate relief with oxygen - lungs were on fire - anesthesiologist gave her another injection, a paralytic reversal and within a few minutes Donna started to regain movement</p>
<p>0:24:35</p>
<p>Donna moves her head side to side to get their attention - nurse asks anesthesiologist why Donna is doing this, anesthesiologist says he doesn't know</p>
<p>0:25:00</p>
<p>"I was awake, I felt him cut me" were the first words Donna was able to speak - 2 nurses and anesthesiologist in room, but they had shocked look - Donna repeated herself and told them what she heard during the surgery - but 2 nurses and anesthesiologist did not say a word - Donna realized they were not going to even acknowledge what she had said, a wall of silence went up</p>
<p>0:26:35</p>
<p>Donna asks for husband Brian but he was not allowed until Donna was in recovery room and tells him immediately what happened - Brian tells nurse they want to speak to anesthesiologist immediately - nurse says anesthesiologist has already left the hospital - Brian says 'I don't care, you go find him, bring him here' - a while later the anesthesiologist walks into Donna's room</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>0:27:50</p>
<p>anesthesiologist has papers in his hand with portable table and shuffled papers - did not make eye contact with Donna or Brian - Donna tells him her experience - anesthesiologist shrugged his shoulders and said 3 words "It happens sometimes" and left the room - Donna and Brian shocked </p>
<p>0:29:30</p>
<p>Scott says 'invalidated trauma deepens trauma' - Donna says it is secondary harm - just as traumatizing as original trauma itself - felt like she didn't matter, no big deal for anesthesiologist - Brian asked for surgeon - Donna told surgeon her experience, he held her hand as she spoke with tears in his eyes and said he was sorry this happened and we will get you help to get through this and do an investigation - but the nurse did not acknowledge or offer words of comfort or kindness</p>
<p>0:31:40</p>
<p>Donna went home that day and that night the nightmares started - the surgeon called the next day to check how Donna was doing - she spoke to him several times over the next few weeks - Regiona Health Authority (RHA) was notified and Donna was in therapy 2 weeks later and diagnosed with complex post traumatic stress </p>
<p>0:33:10</p>
<p>3 weeks later Donna asked for an interview by RHA for an investigation and asked her to meet with them at the hospital where the trauma occurred - they did care how the location of the meeting would impact Donna - one of the worst things they could've done - Donna says they have changed this practice since</p>
<p>0:35:45</p>
<p>Donna does RHA interview and doesn't hear from them at all - Donna went back to work to use as a distraction and to feel 'normal' - 3 months later Donna is scheduled for a hysterectomy surgery - she struggles with PTSD and the need for more surgery - still no word from RHA, Donna contacts VP of medical services to talk - Donna had to reach out, when RHA should have been following up</p>
<p>0:38:00</p>
<p>Donna is given a contact at RHA for any of her questions - but Donna is just given the run around - Donna realizes that is futile and goes directly to VP with her questions - as time went on, Donna was able to get some information - many things wrong - Donna very mistrustful as her next surgery approaches at different hospital - but she needed the surgery - they gave her a spinal anesthesia instead - But Donna does wake up half way through surgery and turns to the anesthesiologist and says 'just checking to make sure you're here' - that surgery went well</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p>0:39:50</p>
<p>Donna told by RHA she would get a report of her medical error - Brian did a lot of research about anesthesilogy and standard of care and found that anesthesiologists are never to leave the OR - "crictical incident" report to be sent to Manitoba health and Donna keeps asking for it and given the run around - finally after many, many months of trying to get a report she finds out that it was not recorded as a 'critical incident' because the patient had reported the error, therefore labeled a 'complaint' - only when staff report an error is a 'critical incident' report filed</p>
<p>0:42:20</p>
<p>No critical incident report filed because the patient made them aware of the error - the system is set up to help providers, not to protect the patient - Donna asked for internal report - and again given the run around - Donna meets with Theresa Oswald Provincial Minister of Health - Oswald says she will get the report for Donna - about 3 weeks later Donna get a copy</p>
<p>0:44:20</p>
<p>But the report is only 1.5 pages and has only 3 bullet points recommendations to improve safety - Donna cried because so disappointed - the report did not mention the effect on Donna, it did not admit a mistake was made, it was very vague - Donna asked again to meet with VP and with CEO of Hospital and confronts them with their own weak report and threw it on the desk and said 'you have to do better' - the report did not address what went wrong with Donna's surgery - they admit there were actually 3 more recommendations that they did not share with Donna </p>
<p>0:46:30</p>
<p>Donna demands to see the full recommendations - they were 'a joke', ludicrous, ridiculous, a shame they didn't learn anything from their medical error - then Donna learns that another report had been sent to Manitoba health - Donna has tried for years to get that report but the goverment has legislation that protects medical providers and does not allow public access to reports - 11 years later Donna still doesn't know what went wrong during her surgery</p>
<p>0:49:40</p>
<p>Donna knew early on she had to share her story to bring awareness - "need to tell my story, need people to know what happened to me" - contact with CPSI (Canadian Patient Safety Institute) with their Patients for Patient Safety Canada group - other patients or surviving family members, common factor is all have been harmed by medical system, and all have desire to change the system - through this group Donna started advocating and tell her story publicly - as time went on, HRA became less interested in Donna sharing her story publicly</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p>0:52:50</p>
<p>Donna made a video with PPSC for HRA to use to make the process works to support the patient harmed by medical error - Donna wanted to share beyond her region - contacted Head of anesthesiologist at university and Donna invited to speak to medical students about her experience - travels to share with different medical conferences, nursing students - healing and empowering to do advocacy - making meaning out of horrible event</p>
<p>0:58:00</p>
<p>Husband Brian a solid support over the years - Donna worked for 2 years but was not dealing with the trauma - did not want to go on medical leave for PTSD, but had no choice - still has flashbacks, nightmares, memory problems - still struggles every single day</p>
<p>1:00:40</p>
<p>"I was surviving, I wasn't living" - Donna tells Brian she doesn't want to live any more - asks Brian to hide her medication - Donna wants to escape the pain - the darkest day she had - but has struggled with suicidal thoughts - but children and grand children are reasons to live and first grand child helped with wanting to live</p>
<p>1:05:00</p>
<p>Donna advises other medical error victims is to talk about it - therapist warns that some family and friends and co-workers will get tired of hearing about it, but to keep sharing with others - best advice she's ever received - but also has received negative feedback and judgment from family, friends, co-workers who do not understand PTSD or mental health and have accussed Donna of faking it</p>
<p>1:07:00</p>
<p>Donna persists in sharing and raising awareness of medical physical and mental harm - the more we share, the more people can learn - let people know how devastating medical error can be - some days feels like beating her head against a wall with frustration with the uphill battle of advocacy</p>
<p>1:09:00</p>
<p>There are days when she feels like giving up with advocacy - cried many tears - maybe time to move onto something else - feels like a loss, betrayed, abandoned - "I will not be silenced" - Donna will continue to share her story and not hide from the culture of silence - not an easy road - continues to receive therapy because of medical error - Donna continues to pay the price for someone else's error - dealing with unwanted change is the hardest change</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>1:12:40</p>
<p>There are people who listen and want to change the system so it is safer for patients - there are good people, not all are narcissists - Donna focuses on those who can make change happen, listen to patients, and learn from horrific mistakes - system allowed bad behaviours against standard of care, and allowed it to continue and that is why Donna was harmed</p>
<p>1:13:50</p>
<p>Surgeon said 'I hate it when he leaves the OR, it puts more pressure on me to monitor the patient' - so the hospital knew this was happening and against standards of care and allowed it to continue to happen until Donna got hurt - they shouldn't wait until there is harm to make changes</p>
<p>1:15:15</p>
<p>Donna has had to have multiple surgeries since and it is very difficult to trust the system that hurt you, and the people in those same positions, although at different hospital - takes courage - finds vast majority of doctors and nurses are good people, but a few bad apples can ruin it 1:17:20</p>
<p>Donna wonders what would've happened if she had of died on the operating table, would any one have known what she went through and things would've continued - using her survival as meaning making because there are bad behaviours - 1:18:15Who are the real experts in medicine?' - it is not the doctors or nurses - patients are the experts in their own care - doctors need to get off their pedestals - Donna tells medical students: don't confuse your 1 hour of training in PTSD with my 11 years of living with it</p>
<p>1:19:40</p>
<p>It is a hard story to hear - Donna tells it like it is because people need to hear - we need to educate people on patient safety - the momentum of patient safety advocates is great to see</p>
<p>1:20:38 END </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna Penner was having routine surgery but something went horribly wrong and  through the failure of her anesthesiologist - Donna was awake during her abdominal surgery, but also paralyzed so she couldn’t tell the surgical team. Donna could feel every excruciating scalpel cut, and the surgeon moving her internal organs around.  </p>
<p> </p>
<p>In torturous pain, and suffocating through lack of oxygen, Donna resigns herself to death and mentally says good bye to her family. But the surgeon notices Donna’s heart rate is very rapid and she can hear him ask the anesthesioligist why Donna is in distress. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Donna feels a sense of relief that the surgeon has noticed and that she is about to be saved from death. But then she hears the nurse reply that the anesthesiologist has left the operating room. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>The surgery continues, the excruciating pain continues, the suffocating continues - as death nears, Donna has an out of body experience and is immersed in warmth and safety and she welcomes its sweet embrace.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>But death does not come in that moment, and Donna finds herself in her body again - with the pain and suffering.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>But the medical errors do not end there - as the surgery ends Donna can’t believe she has survived, but her breathing tube is removed prematurely and Donna’s paralyzed body cannot breathe on its own and she starts to suffocate again - the nurse yells at Donna to breathe, but she can’t….</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p>I wish I could say Donna’s trauma from the medical system ended after the botched surgery, but as you are about to hear, Donna’s experience with a system designed to protect physicians and undermine patient victims adds another layer of trauma onto her life.</p>
<p> <a href='https://twitter.com/BrianDonnaPenn1'>Follow Donna on twitter</a> </p>
<p> </p>
SHOW NOTES - TIME STAMPED
<p>0:04:40</p>
<p>Donna grew up on a farm in Manitoba, Canada, middle child of 3, cows, dogs, cats, hogs - very happy childhood - raised to be responsible, honest, hard working, good values and qualities - parents did a good job</p>
<p>0:07:20</p>
<p>Donna's health care error started several years ago when she had abdominal pain and went to the local clinic - kept for 24 hours they didn't know what was going on - but transferred Donna to another hospital - had laproscopic surgery scheduled</p>
<p>0:08:10</p>
<p>Donna has had surgeries before, anasthetic before no problem - but feeling anxious this time and asked for sedative and was refused - the first thing that went wrong - taken to operating room (OR) and prepped for surgery - anesthesiologist said to Donna take a deep breath and Donna 'was out'.</p>
<p>0:09:15</p>
<p>The next thing she remembers is waking up and hearing sounds in the OR and thinking 'good it's over' and know I can feel relaxed and don't need to feel nervous any more' - and then the surgeon spoke and what he said haunts Donna to this day: "Scalpel please." - then Donna felt the first incision - excruciating pain, beyond description</p>
<p>0:10:25</p>
<p>Donna tries to alert surgeon and staff that she is awake and tried to scream - but couldn't open her mouth - couldn't sit up - realized she's paralyzed by the paralytic medication used for abdominal surgery - so the anasthesia did not take effect, but the paralytic did - Donna could not scream or move but could hear her heart rate on the monitor as it sky rocketed to 147 according to the surgeon (later) - Donna starts to panic - trapped in body and couldn't do anything.</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>0:12:00</p>
<p>As Donna heart rate quickens, she needs to breath faster to supply more oxygen but she couldn't take a breath because she was intubated (tube in her throat to ventilator that breathes for her) - but the ventilator set at 7 breathes per minute, but what Donna needed was much more - so she felt like she was suffocating</p>
<p>0:13:40</p>
<p>"She's in distress, she's in distress" surgeon says, asks anasthesiologist what's wrong - a nurse replies that the anasthesiologist is not in the OR anymore and doesn't know where he is - Donna panic increases - surgeon tells the nurse to find the anasthesiologist immediately - Donna's hears the nurse leave the OR - after what felt like an eternity, anesthesiologist returns - Donna feels relieved that he will realize she's not unconscious and will save her from the pain</p>
<p>0:15:15</p>
<p>That did not happen - anesthesiologist gave her another medication via IV, but did not make Donna go back to sleep - for the next 90 minutes Donna felt the surgery happen - insertion of instruments into her abdomen, exploring, she could her the surgeon comment as he looked at her appendix, kidneys, colon - the whole time Donna is experiencing excruciating pain while he pushes her organs around</p>
<p>0:16:25</p>
<p>Donna hears the surgeon exclaim that there is a lot of blood, and this is not good - Donna continues to panic and wonders why they are not noticing she's in trouble - Donna didn't think she was going to live through it - the pain was so bad she thought she was going to die - this is every surgery patients nightmare </p>
<p>0:17:35</p>
<p>Donna thought about her kids, her husband and worried that if she died they would never know what her last few hours of life were like, the pain and torture - Donna resigns herself to death and says her mental good byes to her family - and ask God to take her away from the agony and pain of surgery.</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>0:18:45</p>
<p>Surgery ends and Donna feels relief that she survived the surgery, but she's still in an immense amout of pain - Donna notices she can mover her tongue a little bit as paralytic wears off - starts to wiggle breathing tube in her mouth to get their attention - anesthesiologist noticed and he removed the tube from her throat - but Donna is still paralyzed and cannot breathe and starts to suffocate and realizes she's about to die - the nurse starts telling Donna to breathe, but Donna cannot breathe</p>
<p>0:20:45</p>
<p>Something amazing happens - Donna has an out of body experience - she could hear OR sounds, voices - in a place somewhere between heaven and earth - Donna could feel a presence and felt it was God with her - her fear left, the pain was gone, it was warm and she felt safe and protected - Donna smiles when she thinks of this - at this point she knew she would be okay whether she lived or she died</p>
<p>0:22:20</p>
<p>Donna prayed and asked God to take her - she heard a voice that said she would be okay - that was reassuring - Donna gets very emotional when she thinks of that - Donna hears the anesthesiologist say 'bag her, bag her' and put a mask on her face to force air into her lungs - immediate relief with oxygen - lungs were on fire - anesthesiologist gave her another injection, a paralytic reversal and within a few minutes Donna started to regain movement</p>
<p>0:24:35</p>
<p>Donna moves her head side to side to get their attention - nurse asks anesthesiologist why Donna is doing this, anesthesiologist says he doesn't know</p>
<p>0:25:00</p>
<p>"I was awake, I felt him cut me" were the first words Donna was able to speak - 2 nurses and anesthesiologist in room, but they had shocked look - Donna repeated herself and told them what she heard during the surgery - but 2 nurses and anesthesiologist did not say a word - Donna realized they were not going to even acknowledge what she had said, a wall of silence went up</p>
<p>0:26:35</p>
<p>Donna asks for husband Brian but he was not allowed until Donna was in recovery room and tells him immediately what happened - Brian tells nurse they want to speak to anesthesiologist immediately - nurse says anesthesiologist has already left the hospital - Brian says 'I don't care, you go find him, bring him here' - a while later the anesthesiologist walks into Donna's room</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>0:27:50</p>
<p>anesthesiologist has papers in his hand with portable table and shuffled papers - did not make eye contact with Donna or Brian - Donna tells him her experience - anesthesiologist shrugged his shoulders and said 3 words "It happens sometimes" and left the room - Donna and Brian shocked </p>
<p>0:29:30</p>
<p>Scott says 'invalidated trauma deepens trauma' - Donna says it is secondary harm - just as traumatizing as original trauma itself - felt like she didn't matter, no big deal for anesthesiologist - Brian asked for surgeon - Donna told surgeon her experience, he held her hand as she spoke with tears in his eyes and said he was sorry this happened and we will get you help to get through this and do an investigation - but the nurse did not acknowledge or offer words of comfort or kindness</p>
<p>0:31:40</p>
<p>Donna went home that day and that night the nightmares started - the surgeon called the next day to check how Donna was doing - she spoke to him several times over the next few weeks - Regiona Health Authority (RHA) was notified and Donna was in therapy 2 weeks later and diagnosed with complex post traumatic stress </p>
<p>0:33:10</p>
<p>3 weeks later Donna asked for an interview by RHA for an investigation and asked her to meet with them at the hospital where the trauma occurred - they did care how the location of the meeting would impact Donna - one of the worst things they could've done - Donna says they have changed this practice since</p>
<p>0:35:45</p>
<p>Donna does RHA interview and doesn't hear from them at all - Donna went back to work to use as a distraction and to feel 'normal' - 3 months later Donna is scheduled for a hysterectomy surgery - she struggles with PTSD and the need for more surgery - still no word from RHA, Donna contacts VP of medical services to talk - Donna had to reach out, when RHA should have been following up</p>
<p>0:38:00</p>
<p>Donna is given a contact at RHA for any of her questions - but Donna is just given the run around - Donna realizes that is futile and goes directly to VP with her questions - as time went on, Donna was able to get some information - many things wrong - Donna very mistrustful as her next surgery approaches at different hospital - but she needed the surgery - they gave her a spinal anesthesia instead - But Donna does wake up half way through surgery and turns to the anesthesiologist and says 'just checking to make sure you're here' - that surgery went well</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p>0:39:50</p>
<p>Donna told by RHA she would get a report of her medical error - Brian did a lot of research about anesthesilogy and standard of care and found that anesthesiologists are never to leave the OR - "crictical incident" report to be sent to Manitoba health and Donna keeps asking for it and given the run around - finally after many, many months of trying to get a report she finds out that it was not recorded as a 'critical incident' because the patient had reported the error, therefore labeled a 'complaint' - only when staff report an error is a 'critical incident' report filed</p>
<p>0:42:20</p>
<p>No critical incident report filed because the patient made them aware of the error - the system is set up to help providers, not to protect the patient - Donna asked for internal report - and again given the run around - Donna meets with Theresa Oswald Provincial Minister of Health - Oswald says she will get the report for Donna - about 3 weeks later Donna get a copy</p>
<p>0:44:20</p>
<p>But the report is only 1.5 pages and has only 3 bullet points recommendations to improve safety - Donna cried because so disappointed - the report did not mention the effect on Donna, it did not admit a mistake was made, it was very vague - Donna asked again to meet with VP and with CEO of Hospital and confronts them with their own weak report and threw it on the desk and said 'you have to do better' - the report did not address what went wrong with Donna's surgery - they admit there were actually 3 more recommendations that they did not share with Donna </p>
<p>0:46:30</p>
<p>Donna demands to see the full recommendations - they were 'a joke', ludicrous, ridiculous, a shame they didn't learn anything from their medical error - then Donna learns that another report had been sent to Manitoba health - Donna has tried for years to get that report but the goverment has legislation that protects medical providers and does not allow public access to reports - 11 years later Donna still doesn't know what went wrong during her surgery</p>
<p>0:49:40</p>
<p>Donna knew early on she had to share her story to bring awareness - "need to tell my story, need people to know what happened to me" - contact with CPSI (Canadian Patient Safety Institute) with their Patients for Patient Safety Canada group - other patients or surviving family members, common factor is all have been harmed by medical system, and all have desire to change the system - through this group Donna started advocating and tell her story publicly - as time went on, HRA became less interested in Donna sharing her story publicly</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p>0:52:50</p>
<p>Donna made a video with PPSC for HRA to use to make the process works to support the patient harmed by medical error - Donna wanted to share beyond her region - contacted Head of anesthesiologist at university and Donna invited to speak to medical students about her experience - travels to share with different medical conferences, nursing students - healing and empowering to do advocacy - making meaning out of horrible event</p>
<p>0:58:00</p>
<p>Husband Brian a solid support over the years - Donna worked for 2 years but was not dealing with the trauma - did not want to go on medical leave for PTSD, but had no choice - still has flashbacks, nightmares, memory problems - still struggles every single day</p>
<p>1:00:40</p>
<p>"I was surviving, I wasn't living" - Donna tells Brian she doesn't want to live any more - asks Brian to hide her medication - Donna wants to escape the pain - the darkest day she had - but has struggled with suicidal thoughts - but children and grand children are reasons to live and first grand child helped with wanting to live</p>
<p>1:05:00</p>
<p>Donna advises other medical error victims is to talk about it - therapist warns that some family and friends and co-workers will get tired of hearing about it, but to keep sharing with others - best advice she's ever received - but also has received negative feedback and judgment from family, friends, co-workers who do not understand PTSD or mental health and have accussed Donna of faking it</p>
<p>1:07:00</p>
<p>Donna persists in sharing and raising awareness of medical physical and mental harm - the more we share, the more people can learn - let people know how devastating medical error can be - some days feels like beating her head against a wall with frustration with the uphill battle of advocacy</p>
<p>1:09:00</p>
<p>There are days when she feels like giving up with advocacy - cried many tears - maybe time to move onto something else - feels like a loss, betrayed, abandoned - "I will not be silenced" - Donna will continue to share her story and not hide from the culture of silence - not an easy road - continues to receive therapy because of medical error - Donna continues to pay the price for someone else's error - dealing with unwanted change is the hardest change</p>
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<p>1:12:40</p>
<p>There are people who listen and want to change the system so it is safer for patients - there are good people, not all are narcissists - Donna focuses on those who can make change happen, listen to patients, and learn from horrific mistakes - system allowed bad behaviours against standard of care, and allowed it to continue and that is why Donna was harmed</p>
<p>1:13:50</p>
<p>Surgeon said 'I hate it when he leaves the OR, it puts more pressure on me to monitor the patient' - so the hospital knew this was happening and against standards of care and allowed it to continue to happen until Donna got hurt - they shouldn't wait until there is harm to make changes</p>
<p>1:15:15</p>
<p>Donna has had to have multiple surgeries since and it is very difficult to trust the system that hurt you, and the people in those same positions, although at different hospital - takes courage - finds vast majority of doctors and nurses are good people, but a few bad apples can ruin it 1:17:20</p>
<p>Donna wonders what would've happened if she had of died on the operating table, would any one have known what she went through and things would've continued - using her survival as meaning making because there are bad behaviours - 1:18:15Who are the real experts in medicine?' - it is not the doctors or nurses - patients are the experts in their own care - doctors need to get off their pedestals - Donna tells medical students: don't confuse your 1 hour of training in PTSD with my 11 years of living with it</p>
<p>1:19:40</p>
<p>It is a hard story to hear - Donna tells it like it is because people need to hear - we need to educate people on patient safety - the momentum of patient safety advocates is great to see</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Donna Penner was having routine surgery but something went horribly wrong and  through the failure of her anesthesiologist - Donna was awake during her abdominal surgery, but also paralyzed so she couldn’t tell the surgical team. Donna could feel every excruciating scalpel cut, and the surgeon moving her internal organs around.  
 
In torturous pain, and suffocating through lack of oxygen, Donna resigns herself to death and mentally says good bye to her family. But the surgeon notices Donna’s heart rate is very rapid and she can hear him ask the anesthesioligist why Donna is in distress. 
 
Donna feels a sense of relief that the surgeon has noticed and that she is about to be saved from death. But then she hears the nurse reply that the anesthesiologist has left the operating room. 
 
The surgery continues, the excruciating pain continues, the suffocating continues - as death nears, Donna has an out of body experience and is immersed in warmth and safety and she welcomes its sweet embrace.
 
But death does not come in that moment, and Donna finds herself in her body again - with the pain and suffering.
 
But the medical errors do not end there - as the surgery ends Donna can’t believe she has survived, but her breathing tube is removed prematurely and Donna’s paralyzed body cannot breathe on its own and she starts to suffocate again - the nurse yells at Donna to breathe, but she can’t….

 
I wish I could say Donna’s trauma from the medical system ended after the botched surgery, but as you are about to hear, Donna’s experience with a system designed to protect physicians and undermine patient victims adds another layer of trauma onto her life.
 Follow Donna on twitter 
 
SHOW NOTES - TIME STAMPED
0:04:40
Donna grew up on a farm in Manitoba, Canada, middle child of 3, cows, dogs, cats, hogs - very happy childhood - raised to be responsible, honest, hard working, good values and qualities - parents did a good job
0:07:20
Donna's health care error started several years ago when she had abdominal pain and went to the local clinic - kept for 24 hours they didn't know what was going on - but transferred Donna to another hospital - had laproscopic surgery scheduled
0:08:10
Donna has had surgeries before, anasthetic before no problem - but feeling anxious this time and asked for sedative and was refused - the first thing that went wrong - taken to operating room (OR) and prepped for surgery - anesthesiologist said to Donna take a deep breath and Donna 'was out'.
0:09:15
The next thing she remembers is waking up and hearing sounds in the OR and thinking 'good it's over' and know I can feel relaxed and don't need to feel nervous any more' - and then the surgeon spoke and what he said haunts Donna to this day: "Scalpel please." - then Donna felt the first incision - excruciating pain, beyond description
0:10:25
Donna tries to alert surgeon and staff that she is awake and tried to scream - but couldn't open her mouth - couldn't sit up - realized she's paralyzed by the paralytic medication used for abdominal surgery - so the anasthesia did not take effect, but the paralytic did - Donna could not scream or move but could hear her heart rate on the monitor as it sky rocketed to 147 according to the surgeon (later) - Donna starts to panic - trapped in body and couldn't do anything.

 
 
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        <title>Gregory Hartley Brewer - Whistleblower of a medical cover up - Lyme symptoms dismissed, treatment denied, years of illness, criminal behaviour</title>
        <itunes:title>Gregory Hartley Brewer - Whistleblower of a medical cover up - Lyme symptoms dismissed, treatment denied, years of illness, criminal behaviour</itunes:title>
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<a href='https://twitter.com/GregHartBrew'>Gregory Hartley Brewer</a>, from Bath in the United Kingdom shares his long battle to get a diagnosis for his Lyme-like symptoms, and then trying to access proper treatment once diagnosed with Lyme many years later.


 


But he is now embroiled in a long battle with the health care system as they try to cover up their missed diagnosis mistake and protect the doctors that not only denied Gregory medical care, but may have behaved in a criminal manner in conspiring to cover up their medical error.


 


But he has not given up: hear how Gregory is taking on the Goliath that is the United Kingdom health care system and exposing their attempts to hide a medical error that has morphed into much more serious and potentially criminal behaviour.
 
SHOW NOTES - TIME STAMPED
 


:04:00


Gregory, early 50s, born in Birmingham, UK - moved to States as a kid for a few years - back to London, then Bath - happy childhood, middle class upbringing - more sporty then academic - found drinking, girls and smoking so didn't go to university - bar, nightclub work - still looking for niche - loved helping people in community job


:06:30


2005 Gregory get bitten by tic in backyard, but he's unaware of the existence of <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjn142WhsfiAhVG1VkKHW9MAQkQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLyme_disease&usg=AOvVaw3CIIJYF4Mjw5r8VJhEGnHy'>Lyme</a> - rash and flu like aches - April 2005 collapsed with stabbing pain in chest chest, 'like being stabbed with a knife", thought he was dying - within a week went to the doctor and was diagnosed with hyperlipidemia, aka high cholesterol and triglycerides - couple of weeks later to another physician in same clinic and recounts rash and flu like symptoms - doctor says that sounds like Lyme, but it can't be Lyme because you're not seriously ill


:07:45


A few weeks later he returns to doctor to say he thinks he has Lyme and she get angry and said he couldn't have Lyme because he's not seriously ill - Gregory believes her - in retrospect she was protecting her misdiagnosis that was only 4 weeks old - this is how uttterly their reputations come before patient treatment and safety - Gregory asks for Lyme testing, she refuses


:08:55


Realizes some of his doctor appointment notes are missing out of his file, thought it was strange but had faith that the doctors knew what they were doing and there can't be a nefarious reason for that
 

 


:09:20


He worsens with Lyme symptoms: <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwis-NK2hsfiAhWIjFkKHb-bCZwQFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPeripheral_neuropathy&usg=AOvVaw21Fkd5KwNHJlt-YiMCZ3zj'>Peripheral neuropathy</a>, palpitations / <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjw3fzGhsfiAhVJzlkKHVRKApMQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPericarditis&usg=AOvVaw1_gz8UxDTADYwcknHsgREv'>pericarditis</a>, chest pain, anxiety from <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwieyfHThsfiAhVNtlkKHZPDA4cQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEncephalopathy&usg=AOvVaw3Nh_w9Vqsll-djnTIzUDeQ'>encephalopathy</a>, low grade <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiMo8HihsfiAhXNtlkKHbIJAiMQFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMeningitis&usg=AOvVaw28vMzmWwWojBjbdY_tbrKc'>meningitis</a>, headaches, sore shoulders - by 2008 in bad shape, reticent to raise Lyme disease for fear of denigrating and angry reaction - symptoms cause big impact on his social life, went from very social to feeling too anxious and stopped going out, lost friends from isolation


:11:40


Gregory feeling anxious but not depressed, but no external anxiety trigger - no rhyme or reason when anxiety came - now knows it was bacteria impacting his brain - describes peripheral neuropathy in his legs - pain, squeezing, crushed and wants to explode - due to nerves being attacked by bacteria - may last minutes or hours, no rhyme or reason, sometimes hurts to walk - puzzling as to what is happening in his body, vacillates seeing doctors because they looked at him like a bloody idiot - by 2008 the doctor must have known these were Lyme symptoms - only 3 GPs in this clinic


:15:20


2009 bitten again by a tic in his field and sees rash on the inside of his arm - its a Sunday so Gregory went to health center, diagnosed Lyme immediately and given one week supply of <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiOlNj5hsfiAhWKr1kKHVjpCUwQFjAAegQICBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDoxycycline&usg=AOvVaw3QyPTNWkzQkXweom7T5Ahx'>doxycycline</a>, but later finds out he should have been given 2 weeks according to the <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=27&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiKrK-Jh8fiAhVQvlkKHToIDLYQ-TAoADAaegQIDxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nice.org.uk%2F&usg=AOvVaw1ky4G5wLlK6O1QKPd5Xcgy'>National Institute of Clincal Excellence (NICE)</a> guidelines at the time - doctor sent note to his GP about Gregory's Lyme diagnosis - about 9 months later symptoms worsen again, returns to his GP and is again denigrated and dismissed


:16:20


GP says just because you had Lyme disease and it wasn't properly treated, doesn't mean you have it now - Gregory asks why their multiple discussions about Lyme disease are not in his medical file and the GP says she decides what goes into his medical file - Gregory requests that she make a note about his Lyme diagnosis in his file, she threatens to fire him as a patient if he keeps saying he has Lyme - turns out there is no mention of Lyme in his medical file from 2005 to 2014


:19:20


GP didn't want Lyme in his notes because it would come back and bite her - willful lack of insight about his symptoms - negligent since 2009 for failure to test and treat - switches to different doctor, and this doctor also says Gregory's symptoms are not Lyme - even though Bath high risk is endemic area there are no signs any where - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjSyc_Ah8fiAhXDwVkKHTc1BjQQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.uk%2Fgovernment%2Forganisations%2Fpublic-health-england&usg=AOvVaw33fhOxL0rl0T4Lh8qsH5XF'>Public Health England</a> is responsible for responding to Lyme disease stopped Bath public heath from putting up signs after secret study found high concentration of tics in Bath area - without public signs Gregory wasn't aware Lyme in his area, mixed with phsycians who are Lyme illiterate - many, many patients sick but not diagnosed - a national scandal
 

 


:22:15


Lots of known unknowns about Lyme - NICE just changed guidelines saying that Lyme relapse can happen, and can access 4 more weeks of treatment - but lots of patients misdiagnosed and not diagnosed - but found new GP in March 2016 who is treating him well - gets 2 or 3 courses of antibiotics a year to manage, but not cure, his Lyme


:23:40


In 2018 Gregory gets <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiqqZ3Vh8fiAhUxrVkKHWIGBEoQFjABegQIDBAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMaculopapular_rash&usg=AOvVaw0VFzxl68-O1ggZrlz7pd6e'>Macular Erythema</a> on his hand, a sign of systemic disease, but if not for that sign, he wouldn't be able to get a Lyme diagnosis - about 300 GPs in UK treating long term Lyme sufferers outside NICE guidelines - lots of Lyme patients don't get treatment
 

 


:25:35


Lots of UK people get tested positive for Lyme in Europe labs but testing in UK finds Lyme negative - UK relies heavily on testing and not on clinical symptoms - Gregory contends that since Lyme testing is unreliable and inconsistent, that clinical symptoms should be used to diagnose - also because a person can test positive for Lyme and not have any symptoms because they've produced antibodies to the Lyme - can also have no antibodies and still have Lyme because the body did not produce antibodies - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjs94Lzh8fiAhXEwFkKHZWyCAsQFjABegQIDBAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mayoclinic.org%2Fdiseases-conditions%2Flyme-disease%2Fdiagnosis-treatment%2Fdrc-20374655&usg=AOvVaw0Ac0iVJIUG3NmJyoryx_Xh'>ELISA</a> and <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwijssuMiMfiAhUk2FkKHfeFC60QFjACegQIDBAG&url=https%3A%2F%2Figenex.com%2Fdisease%2Fborrelia%2F&usg=AOvVaw0hm4xrd4-3jNuohCxMAsX0'>Western Blot</a> tests - a scandal in the UK as thousands have Lyme symptoms but no treatment - central Europe is better at treating :28:15


Gregory thinks when a doctor doesn't know what to do when a patient tells them one thing and testing the opposite, they fall back onto science (testing) - and it is very poor in Lyme disease - NICE guidelines basically say we have no confidence in what we're proposing, but we need to propose something - because doctors can't see symptoms they will attribute to another illness or give the patient a psychological diagnosis - <a href='https://twitter.com/patientsafe3'>Rob Hackett Australian medic on twitter</a> wants aviation standards in medicine - Gregory re-tweeted <a href='https://twitter.com/RemediesPodcast'>Scott's tweet</a> about a black box in the operating room


:30:20


Hackett studies patient safety - bystander effect, ego, reputation - in Gregory's case it was ego that prevented the physicians from admitting they were wrong, thereby denying treatment to him - instead they conspired and were cruel and degrading to leave him ill deliberately - if not for diagnosis by another GP, Gregory would be still be suffering greatly with symptoms and still being told he has psych problems


:31:00


December 2014 these GPs decided that they couldn't give Gregory a diagnosis of Lyme - goes to locum to see doctor about symptoms but he was misdiagnosed with prostatitis and given medication for that and Gregory had a bad reaction - says to locum doctor that he has Lyme, doctor believes him, but only gives 2 weeks of antibiotics - Gregory goes back to GPs who say he doesn't have Lyme because he has negative serology - he feels depressed and distressed


:32:20


Gregory researches and finds that the <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiN84yficfiAhXDxVkKHSpvAnEQFjAAegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bma.org.uk%2Fadvice%2Fcareer%2Fstudying-medicine%2Finsiders-guide-to-medical-specialties%2Fnhs-career-choices%2Fpublic-health-medicine&usg=AOvVaw3yozD2z-VgJEFgLMreYXE4'>Public Health England's Doctor Pathway</a> says that antibiotic treatment may produce false-negative results - presents to GPs and this compels them to have a meeting with PHE but they send their newest and most junior GP to the meeting to withhold multiple information from PHE and to deny Gregory treatment in August 2015


:34:00


Gregory finds <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjRtq7HisfiAhULh-AKHfVfDGkQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lymediseaseaction.org.uk%2F&usg=AOvVaw38pSWPc1ugE1hzl0S93Lnf'>Lyme Disease Action</a> help people with Lyme get a diagnosis - they write to his GP, who informs the PHE, who realize right away that they were previously withheld information about Gregory - however PHE leaves it to GPs to decide treatment and they say there is no Lyme to treat in Gregory
 

 


:36:45


LDA decides not to report these 3 GPs for criminal negligence, but Gregory is able to access treatment from them because if they refuse, the LDA can still report them - Gregory gets 4 weeks of treatment but did not yet know they were withholding clinical history from PHE so continues at the clinic - but if he had not got 2nd opinion, he'd still be suffering


:37:50


Gregory emails PHE directly and gets almost immediate response apologizing for discrepancy in the reporting of his symptoms in all the discussion - Gregory finds out later the PHE forwards email to Gregory's GP with angry note, so GP now knows Gregory knows that PHE was not given full medical file - this leads to more forgery down the line


:38:45


Gregory realizes the GPs are being willful, but he does not know why they wouldn't give full medical file to PHE - GP avoids talking to LDA because LDA has full medical file and will ask GP why she only sent partial file to PHE


:39:45


Gregory files complaint with NHS - GPs are employed by NHS - and recieves their 1 page report in March 2016 and it is "so corrupt" - ignores early diagnosis - Gregory files another complaint and this time NHS realizes he knows something is wrong - they produce 10 page report and dismisses Gregory's symptoms and blames him for poor medical care - so they are protecting GPs and covering up their harm


:41:40


July 27, 2012 - Eureka moment - if he is diagnosed with Lyme in 2015 from 2009 onset and denied medical care, then that is criminal negligence - now Gregory understands their motive and explains all their behaviour and actions: to cover their asses from criminal negligence which now not just a mistake, but a conspiracy to deny a patient treatment - they must have sat down at some point to decide to deny he had Lyme
 

 


:43:15


NHS notorious for covering up mistakes and attacking whistleblowers, be they patients or medical staff - there is a culture of defend, deny, delay - Gregory investigates himself by getting access to emails and puts more pieces of the hidden puzzle together - more denial, lying, created fraudulent email but never sent, blaming PHE, to protect their position and prevent exposure of their crime


:47:40


Gregory continues to research and submit evidence to <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjXsf3oisfiAhXDm-AKHVhzBVcQFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ombudsman.org.uk%2F&usg=AOvVaw0WTXHxesKoijdMnuzZfmEU'>Palriamentary and Service Ombudsman</a> (PSO) and <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiWjP-Oi8fiAhUmnOAKHY6wArQQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gmc-uk.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw1m0PQcgAstrfrR_GaICRF_'>General Medical Council</a> (GMC) in December 2016 - LDA says can't support Gregory, with subtext they will be punished as whistleblowers and closed down by <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwigo7Wqi8fiAhWEc98KHRQ-CKwQFjAAegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhs.uk%2F&usg=AOvVaw3lHBKlw2rCUk9xjzmIpVn_'>National Health Services</a> (NHS) - more coverup happens by GMC and dismiss his evidence - PSO even slower - Gregory appeals GMC decision, they admit Gregory's case meets their high threshold for investigation, but claim they see no evidence of doctor misconduct and dismiss the case - PSO also dismiss and ignore evidence


:49:30


Gregory takes the GMC to court in September 2017 but loses - appeals again to be heard - PSO closes investigation because "you will be disappointed with the outcome" - PSO well known as dust bin for complaints - September 2018 launches Judicial Review against PSO and gets oral hearing - Judge agrees PSO behaved badly but says PSO can act at own discretion - PSO fails to tell Gregory they must agree on scope of investigation, this gives him leverage to appeal - can't get legal support because nobody wants to believe 3 GPs intentionally denied a patient treatment for years


:53:30


Gregory has found case law that doctors must treat, otherwise a criminal act - PSO has broad powers, but refuse to interview 2 witnesses, who's careers would be in jeopardy for not reporting the GPs for non-treatment - this is all a lot of stress, not a normal life, wish for happy days - GPs just 500 yards away and other patients at risk - willfull lack of insight into patients Lyme symptoms - knows a woman who was dismissed by GPs, turns out she had cancer for 2 years, and died soon after proper diagnosis, and refused to apologize - they are a danger and Gregory will do everything in his power to expose them


:57:30


Others who are whistleblowers suffer greatly from blowback from goverment institutions - at end of the day, CEO of NHS Trust do not want their dirty laundry aired in public and will crush any thing that threatens that, no matter how obvious - recent case <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwitm4LTi8fiAhUImuAKHR7JAxQQFjAEegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fsociety%2F2018%2Foct%2F02%2Fnhs-whistleblowing-protection-tribunal-junior-doctors&usg=AOvVaw1QVbkw_NDkw5ec6uJAu-xU'>Dr Day in England</a> where they tried to exclude junior doctors from whistleblower protection - statutory duty to protect patients - misconduct in public office - UK police rarely charge people in power


1:00:40


End of day, patients and medics suffer - if try to stand up, you are beaten down - most patients just want recognition and apology - but instead wilfull denial of their mistake - yet so wilfully doing harm by denying treatment - Gregory will have to report to police - conspiracy because junior doctor had no reason to lie, except to protect her senior doctors
 

 


1:02:30


Gregory sent email to junior doctor asking her to testify and the police show up on his doorstep with a 'community protection warning' to protect community from harassment - senior partner made sure junior doctor not available to be interviewed by police - 2 senior partners are professional liars - police refuse to acknowledge crime against Gregory, but feels he has to compel them to investigate


1:04:30


<a href='https://twitter.com/GregHartBrew'>Started twitter</a> April 2018 to put his experience out there - realize many others with similar experiences - solace and support finding others - next thing is to form groups and attack these organizations that are covering up all these cases - produce blog, keep campaigning - show its all a scam saying to public we've got orgs to support you, but its all a lie - they are in own silos and don't want to kick up a fuss and lose their job, pay cheque - huge scandal in UK and other countries


1:07:15


Last few months have been very difficult - started smoking again, stopped exercising, depression, self doubt, anxiety - some days better if get a bit of good news, but most of time it is a crushing weight - drinking to get to sleep - irritable, angry


1:08:55


Can't remember feeling happy, part due to Lyme symptoms, but mostly due to the situation - affects all parts of life - bloody nightmare - constant worry - affecting relationships, compounds Lyme - borderline sociopaths in high positions shown by their actions


1:10:45


GPs don't want to discuss trauma he's experienced by health care system, so can't get help for trauma - don't give up, just keep going


1:13:45 - end


 


Follow <a href='https://twitter.com/GregHartBrew'>Gregory on twitter</a>.
 

<p>About the podcast</p>
<p>I’m Scott Simpson, a <a href='http://remediescounseling.com/'>personal counsellor</a> by day, a podcast host by night, and a sick and disabled patient advocate surviving medical error.</p>
<p>My hope is that by sharing stories of medical error, we can bring awareness to this 3rd leading cause of death, and implement solutions for patient safety.</p>

<p>Host Scott Simpson</p>
<p>But the podcast is not just about medical error experiences, I also interview people who are trying to make health care systems safer for all of us.</p>
<p>Turns out that a lot of people working on patient safety, have personal experiences with medical error.</p>
<p>The airline industry is quite transparent about their safety incidents. The exact opposite is true about the medical industry.</p>
<p>They work hard to ensure the public does not get easy access to data about medical errors.</p>
<p>Medical Error Interviews brings transparency to medical harm and death, giving voice to survivors and change makers.</p>
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<a href='https://twitter.com/GregHartBrew'>Gregory Hartley Brewer</a>, from Bath in the United Kingdom shares his long battle to get a diagnosis for his Lyme-like symptoms, and then trying to access proper treatment once diagnosed with Lyme many years later.


 


But he is now embroiled in a long battle with the health care system as they try to cover up their missed diagnosis mistake and protect the doctors that not only denied Gregory medical care, but may have behaved in a criminal manner in conspiring to cover up their medical error.


 


But he has not given up: hear how Gregory is taking on the Goliath that is the United Kingdom health care system and exposing their attempts to hide a medical error that has morphed into much more serious and potentially criminal behaviour.
 
SHOW NOTES - TIME STAMPED
 


:04:00


Gregory, early 50s, born in Birmingham, UK - moved to States as a kid for a few years - back to London, then Bath - happy childhood, middle class upbringing - more sporty then academic - found drinking, girls and smoking so didn't go to university - bar, nightclub work - still looking for niche - loved helping people in community job


:06:30


2005 Gregory get bitten by tic in backyard, but he's unaware of the existence of <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjn142WhsfiAhVG1VkKHW9MAQkQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLyme_disease&usg=AOvVaw3CIIJYF4Mjw5r8VJhEGnHy'>Lyme</a> - rash and flu like aches - April 2005 collapsed with stabbing pain in chest chest, 'like being stabbed with a knife", thought he was dying - within a week went to the doctor and was diagnosed with hyperlipidemia, aka high cholesterol and triglycerides - couple of weeks later to another physician in same clinic and recounts rash and flu like symptoms - doctor says that sounds like Lyme, but it can't be Lyme because you're not seriously ill


:07:45


A few weeks later he returns to doctor to say he thinks he has Lyme and she get angry and said he couldn't have Lyme because he's not seriously ill - Gregory believes her - in retrospect she was protecting her misdiagnosis that was only 4 weeks old - this is how uttterly their reputations come before patient treatment and safety - Gregory asks for Lyme testing, she refuses


:08:55


Realizes some of his doctor appointment notes are missing out of his file, thought it was strange but had faith that the doctors knew what they were doing and there can't be a nefarious reason for that
 

 


:09:20


He worsens with Lyme symptoms: <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwis-NK2hsfiAhWIjFkKHb-bCZwQFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPeripheral_neuropathy&usg=AOvVaw21Fkd5KwNHJlt-YiMCZ3zj'>Peripheral neuropathy</a>, palpitations / <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjw3fzGhsfiAhVJzlkKHVRKApMQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPericarditis&usg=AOvVaw1_gz8UxDTADYwcknHsgREv'>pericarditis</a>, chest pain, anxiety from <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwieyfHThsfiAhVNtlkKHZPDA4cQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEncephalopathy&usg=AOvVaw3Nh_w9Vqsll-djnTIzUDeQ'>encephalopathy</a>, low grade <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiMo8HihsfiAhXNtlkKHbIJAiMQFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMeningitis&usg=AOvVaw28vMzmWwWojBjbdY_tbrKc'>meningitis</a>, headaches, sore shoulders - by 2008 in bad shape, reticent to raise Lyme disease for fear of denigrating and angry reaction - symptoms cause big impact on his social life, went from very social to feeling too anxious and stopped going out, lost friends from isolation


:11:40


Gregory feeling anxious but not depressed, but no external anxiety trigger - no rhyme or reason when anxiety came - now knows it was bacteria impacting his brain - describes peripheral neuropathy in his legs - pain, squeezing, crushed and wants to explode - due to nerves being attacked by bacteria - may last minutes or hours, no rhyme or reason, sometimes hurts to walk - puzzling as to what is happening in his body, vacillates seeing doctors because they looked at him like a bloody idiot - by 2008 the doctor must have known these were Lyme symptoms - only 3 GPs in this clinic


:15:20


2009 bitten again by a tic in his field and sees rash on the inside of his arm - its a Sunday so Gregory went to health center, diagnosed Lyme immediately and given one week supply of <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiOlNj5hsfiAhWKr1kKHVjpCUwQFjAAegQICBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDoxycycline&usg=AOvVaw3QyPTNWkzQkXweom7T5Ahx'>doxycycline</a>, but later finds out he should have been given 2 weeks according to the <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=27&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiKrK-Jh8fiAhVQvlkKHToIDLYQ-TAoADAaegQIDxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nice.org.uk%2F&usg=AOvVaw1ky4G5wLlK6O1QKPd5Xcgy'>National Institute of Clincal Excellence (NICE)</a> guidelines at the time - doctor sent note to his GP about Gregory's Lyme diagnosis - about 9 months later symptoms worsen again, returns to his GP and is again denigrated and dismissed


:16:20


GP says just because you had Lyme disease and it wasn't properly treated, doesn't mean you have it now - Gregory asks why their multiple discussions about Lyme disease are not in his medical file and the GP says she decides what goes into his medical file - Gregory requests that she make a note about his Lyme diagnosis in his file, she threatens to fire him as a patient if he keeps saying he has Lyme - turns out there is no mention of Lyme in his medical file from 2005 to 2014


:19:20


GP didn't want Lyme in his notes because it would come back and bite her - willful lack of insight about his symptoms - negligent since 2009 for failure to test and treat - switches to different doctor, and this doctor also says Gregory's symptoms are not Lyme - even though Bath high risk is endemic area there are no signs any where - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjSyc_Ah8fiAhXDwVkKHTc1BjQQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.uk%2Fgovernment%2Forganisations%2Fpublic-health-england&usg=AOvVaw33fhOxL0rl0T4Lh8qsH5XF'>Public Health England</a> is responsible for responding to Lyme disease stopped Bath public heath from putting up signs after secret study found high concentration of tics in Bath area - without public signs Gregory wasn't aware Lyme in his area, mixed with phsycians who are Lyme illiterate - many, many patients sick but not diagnosed - a national scandal
 

 


:22:15


Lots of known unknowns about Lyme - NICE just changed guidelines saying that Lyme relapse can happen, and can access 4 more weeks of treatment - but lots of patients misdiagnosed and not diagnosed - but found new GP in March 2016 who is treating him well - gets 2 or 3 courses of antibiotics a year to manage, but not cure, his Lyme


:23:40


In 2018 Gregory gets <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiqqZ3Vh8fiAhUxrVkKHWIGBEoQFjABegQIDBAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMaculopapular_rash&usg=AOvVaw0VFzxl68-O1ggZrlz7pd6e'>Macular Erythema</a> on his hand, a sign of systemic disease, but if not for that sign, he wouldn't be able to get a Lyme diagnosis - about 300 GPs in UK treating long term Lyme sufferers outside NICE guidelines - lots of Lyme patients don't get treatment
 

 


:25:35


Lots of UK people get tested positive for Lyme in Europe labs but testing in UK finds Lyme negative - UK relies heavily on testing and not on clinical symptoms - Gregory contends that since Lyme testing is unreliable and inconsistent, that clinical symptoms should be used to diagnose - also because a person can test positive for Lyme and not have any symptoms because they've produced antibodies to the Lyme - can also have no antibodies and still have Lyme because the body did not produce antibodies - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjs94Lzh8fiAhXEwFkKHZWyCAsQFjABegQIDBAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mayoclinic.org%2Fdiseases-conditions%2Flyme-disease%2Fdiagnosis-treatment%2Fdrc-20374655&usg=AOvVaw0Ac0iVJIUG3NmJyoryx_Xh'>ELISA</a> and <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwijssuMiMfiAhUk2FkKHfeFC60QFjACegQIDBAG&url=https%3A%2F%2Figenex.com%2Fdisease%2Fborrelia%2F&usg=AOvVaw0hm4xrd4-3jNuohCxMAsX0'>Western Blot</a> tests - a scandal in the UK as thousands have Lyme symptoms but no treatment - central Europe is better at treating :28:15


Gregory thinks when a doctor doesn't know what to do when a patient tells them one thing and testing the opposite, they fall back onto science (testing) - and it is very poor in Lyme disease - NICE guidelines basically say we have no confidence in what we're proposing, but we need to propose something - because doctors can't see symptoms they will attribute to another illness or give the patient a psychological diagnosis - <a href='https://twitter.com/patientsafe3'>Rob Hackett Australian medic on twitter</a> wants aviation standards in medicine - Gregory re-tweeted <a href='https://twitter.com/RemediesPodcast'>Scott's tweet</a> about a black box in the operating room


:30:20


Hackett studies patient safety - bystander effect, ego, reputation - in Gregory's case it was ego that prevented the physicians from admitting they were wrong, thereby denying treatment to him - instead they conspired and were cruel and degrading to leave him ill deliberately - if not for diagnosis by another GP, Gregory would be still be suffering greatly with symptoms and still being told he has psych problems


:31:00


December 2014 these GPs decided that they couldn't give Gregory a diagnosis of Lyme - goes to locum to see doctor about symptoms but he was misdiagnosed with prostatitis and given medication for that and Gregory had a bad reaction - says to locum doctor that he has Lyme, doctor believes him, but only gives 2 weeks of antibiotics - Gregory goes back to GPs who say he doesn't have Lyme because he has negative serology - he feels depressed and distressed


:32:20


Gregory researches and finds that the <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiN84yficfiAhXDxVkKHSpvAnEQFjAAegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bma.org.uk%2Fadvice%2Fcareer%2Fstudying-medicine%2Finsiders-guide-to-medical-specialties%2Fnhs-career-choices%2Fpublic-health-medicine&usg=AOvVaw3yozD2z-VgJEFgLMreYXE4'>Public Health England's Doctor Pathway</a> says that antibiotic treatment may produce false-negative results - presents to GPs and this compels them to have a meeting with PHE but they send their newest and most junior GP to the meeting to withhold multiple information from PHE and to deny Gregory treatment in August 2015


:34:00


Gregory finds <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjRtq7HisfiAhULh-AKHfVfDGkQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lymediseaseaction.org.uk%2F&usg=AOvVaw38pSWPc1ugE1hzl0S93Lnf'>Lyme Disease Action</a> help people with Lyme get a diagnosis - they write to his GP, who informs the PHE, who realize right away that they were previously withheld information about Gregory - however PHE leaves it to GPs to decide treatment and they say there is no Lyme to treat in Gregory
 

 


:36:45


LDA decides not to report these 3 GPs for criminal negligence, but Gregory is able to access treatment from them because if they refuse, the LDA can still report them - Gregory gets 4 weeks of treatment but did not yet know they were withholding clinical history from PHE so continues at the clinic - but if he had not got 2nd opinion, he'd still be suffering


:37:50


Gregory emails PHE directly and gets almost immediate response apologizing for discrepancy in the reporting of his symptoms in all the discussion - Gregory finds out later the PHE forwards email to Gregory's GP with angry note, so GP now knows Gregory knows that PHE was not given full medical file - this leads to more forgery down the line


:38:45


Gregory realizes the GPs are being willful, but he does not know why they wouldn't give full medical file to PHE - GP avoids talking to LDA because LDA has full medical file and will ask GP why she only sent partial file to PHE


:39:45


Gregory files complaint with NHS - GPs are employed by NHS - and recieves their 1 page report in March 2016 and it is "so corrupt" - ignores early diagnosis - Gregory files another complaint and this time NHS realizes he knows something is wrong - they produce 10 page report and dismisses Gregory's symptoms and blames him for poor medical care - so they are protecting GPs and covering up their harm


:41:40


July 27, 2012 - Eureka moment - if he is diagnosed with Lyme in 2015 from 2009 onset and denied medical care, then that is criminal negligence - now Gregory understands their motive and explains all their behaviour and actions: to cover their asses from criminal negligence which now not just a mistake, but a conspiracy to deny a patient treatment - they must have sat down at some point to decide to deny he had Lyme
 

 


:43:15


NHS notorious for covering up mistakes and attacking whistleblowers, be they patients or medical staff - there is a culture of defend, deny, delay - Gregory investigates himself by getting access to emails and puts more pieces of the hidden puzzle together - more denial, lying, created fraudulent email but never sent, blaming PHE, to protect their position and prevent exposure of their crime


:47:40


Gregory continues to research and submit evidence to <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjXsf3oisfiAhXDm-AKHVhzBVcQFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ombudsman.org.uk%2F&usg=AOvVaw0WTXHxesKoijdMnuzZfmEU'>Palriamentary and Service Ombudsman</a> (PSO) and <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiWjP-Oi8fiAhUmnOAKHY6wArQQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gmc-uk.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw1m0PQcgAstrfrR_GaICRF_'>General Medical Council</a> (GMC) in December 2016 - LDA says can't support Gregory, with subtext they will be punished as whistleblowers and closed down by <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwigo7Wqi8fiAhWEc98KHRQ-CKwQFjAAegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhs.uk%2F&usg=AOvVaw3lHBKlw2rCUk9xjzmIpVn_'>National Health Services</a> (NHS) - more coverup happens by GMC and dismiss his evidence - PSO even slower - Gregory appeals GMC decision, they admit Gregory's case meets their high threshold for investigation, but claim they see no evidence of doctor misconduct and dismiss the case - PSO also dismiss and ignore evidence


:49:30


Gregory takes the GMC to court in September 2017 but loses - appeals again to be heard - PSO closes investigation because "you will be disappointed with the outcome" - PSO well known as dust bin for complaints - September 2018 launches Judicial Review against PSO and gets oral hearing - Judge agrees PSO behaved badly but says PSO can act at own discretion - PSO fails to tell Gregory they must agree on scope of investigation, this gives him leverage to appeal - can't get legal support because nobody wants to believe 3 GPs intentionally denied a patient treatment for years


:53:30


Gregory has found case law that doctors must treat, otherwise a criminal act - PSO has broad powers, but refuse to interview 2 witnesses, who's careers would be in jeopardy for not reporting the GPs for non-treatment - this is all a lot of stress, not a normal life, wish for happy days - GPs just 500 yards away and other patients at risk - willfull lack of insight into patients Lyme symptoms - knows a woman who was dismissed by GPs, turns out she had cancer for 2 years, and died soon after proper diagnosis, and refused to apologize - they are a danger and Gregory will do everything in his power to expose them


:57:30


Others who are whistleblowers suffer greatly from blowback from goverment institutions - at end of the day, CEO of NHS Trust do not want their dirty laundry aired in public and will crush any thing that threatens that, no matter how obvious - recent case <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwitm4LTi8fiAhUImuAKHR7JAxQQFjAEegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fsociety%2F2018%2Foct%2F02%2Fnhs-whistleblowing-protection-tribunal-junior-doctors&usg=AOvVaw1QVbkw_NDkw5ec6uJAu-xU'>Dr Day in England</a> where they tried to exclude junior doctors from whistleblower protection - statutory duty to protect patients - misconduct in public office - UK police rarely charge people in power


1:00:40


End of day, patients and medics suffer - if try to stand up, you are beaten down - most patients just want recognition and apology - but instead wilfull denial of their mistake - yet so wilfully doing harm by denying treatment - Gregory will have to report to police - conspiracy because junior doctor had no reason to lie, except to protect her senior doctors
 

 


1:02:30


Gregory sent email to junior doctor asking her to testify and the police show up on his doorstep with a 'community protection warning' to protect community from harassment - senior partner made sure junior doctor not available to be interviewed by police - 2 senior partners are professional liars - police refuse to acknowledge crime against Gregory, but feels he has to compel them to investigate


1:04:30


<a href='https://twitter.com/GregHartBrew'>Started twitter</a> April 2018 to put his experience out there - realize many others with similar experiences - solace and support finding others - next thing is to form groups and attack these organizations that are covering up all these cases - produce blog, keep campaigning - show its all a scam saying to public we've got orgs to support you, but its all a lie - they are in own silos and don't want to kick up a fuss and lose their job, pay cheque - huge scandal in UK and other countries


1:07:15


Last few months have been very difficult - started smoking again, stopped exercising, depression, self doubt, anxiety - some days better if get a bit of good news, but most of time it is a crushing weight - drinking to get to sleep - irritable, angry


1:08:55


Can't remember feeling happy, part due to Lyme symptoms, but mostly due to the situation - affects all parts of life - bloody nightmare - constant worry - affecting relationships, compounds Lyme - borderline sociopaths in high positions shown by their actions


1:10:45


GPs don't want to discuss trauma he's experienced by health care system, so can't get help for trauma - don't give up, just keep going


1:13:45 - end


 


Follow <a href='https://twitter.com/GregHartBrew'>Gregory on twitter</a>.
 

<p>About the podcast</p>
<p>I’m Scott Simpson, a <a href='http://remediescounseling.com/'>personal counsellor</a> by day, a podcast host by night, and a sick and disabled patient advocate surviving medical error.</p>
<p>My hope is that by sharing stories of medical error, we can bring awareness to this 3rd leading cause of death, and implement solutions for patient safety.</p>
<br>
<p>Host Scott Simpson</p>
<p>But the podcast is not just about medical error experiences, I also interview people who are trying to make health care systems safer for all of us.</p>
<p>Turns out that a lot of people working on patient safety, have personal experiences with medical error.</p>
<p>The airline industry is quite transparent about their safety incidents. The exact opposite is true about the medical industry.</p>
<p>They work hard to ensure the public does not get easy access to data about medical errors.</p>
<p><em>Medical Error Interviews</em> brings transparency to medical harm and death, giving voice to survivors and change makers.</p>
<p>You can support the podcast and help make health care safer by becoming a <a href='https://www.patreon.com/rss/MedicalErrorInterviews?auth=2eY8hVY9bd5o78a8cmpNSURYZ2VrqXrq'>Patron or Premium Patron</a>.</p>
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Gregory Hartley Brewer, from Bath in the United Kingdom shares his long battle to get a diagnosis for his Lyme-like symptoms, and then trying to access proper treatment once diagnosed with Lyme many years later.


 


But he is now embroiled in a long battle with the health care system as they try to cover up their missed diagnosis mistake and protect the doctors that not only denied Gregory medical care, but may have behaved in a criminal manner in conspiring to cover up their medical error.


 


But he has not given up: hear how Gregory is taking on the Goliath that is the United Kingdom health care system and exposing their attempts to hide a medical error that has morphed into much more serious and potentially criminal behaviour.
 
SHOW NOTES - TIME STAMPED
 


:04:00


Gregory, early 50s, born in Birmingham, UK - moved to States as a kid for a few years - back to London, then Bath - happy childhood, middle class upbringing - more sporty then academic - found drinking, girls and smoking so didn't go to university - bar, nightclub work - still looking for niche - loved helping people in community job


:06:30


2005 Gregory get bitten by tic in backyard, but he's unaware of the existence of Lyme - rash and flu like aches - April 2005 collapsed with stabbing pain in chest chest, 'like being stabbed with a knife", thought he was dying - within a week went to the doctor and was diagnosed with hyperlipidemia, aka high cholesterol and triglycerides - couple of weeks later to another physician in same clinic and recounts rash and flu like symptoms - doctor says that sounds like Lyme, but it can't be Lyme because you're not seriously ill


:07:45


A few weeks later he returns to doctor to say he thinks he has Lyme and she get angry and said he couldn't have Lyme because he's not seriously ill - Gregory believes her - in retrospect she was protecting her misdiagnosis that was only 4 weeks old - this is how uttterly their reputations come before patient treatment and safety - Gregory asks for Lyme testing, she refuses


:08:55


Realizes some of his doctor appointment notes are missing out of his file, thought it was strange but had faith that the doctors knew what they were doing and there can't be a nefarious reason for that
 

 


:09:20


He worsens with Lyme symptoms: Peripheral neuropathy, palpitations / pericarditis, chest pain, anxiety from encephalopathy, low grade meningitis, headaches, sore shoulders - by 2008 in bad shape, reticent to raise Lyme disease for fear of denigrating and angry reaction - symptoms cause big impact on his social life, went from very social to feeling too anxious and stopped going out, lost friends from isolation


:11:40


Gregory feeling anxious but not depressed, but no external anxiety trigger - no rhyme or reason when anxiety came - now knows it was bacteria impacting his brain - describes peripheral neuropathy in his legs - pain, squeezing, crushed and wants to explode - due to nerves being attacked by bacteria - may last minutes or hours, no rhyme or reason, sometimes hurts to walk - puzzling as to what is happening in his body, vacillates seeing doctors because they looked at him like a bloody idiot - by 2008 the doctor must have known these were Lyme symptoms - only 3 GPs in this clinic


:15:20


2009 bitten again by a tic in his field and sees rash on the inside of his arm - its a Sunday so Gregory went to health center, diagnosed Lyme immediately and given one week supply of doxycycline, but later finds out he should have been given 2 weeks according to the National Institute of Clincal Excellence (NICE) guidelines at the time - doctor sent note to his GP about Gregory's Lyme diagnosis - about 9 months later symptoms worsen again, returns to his GP and is again denigrated and dismissed


:16:20


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        <title>Jeff Wood: The new Patient Zero: Hear how Jeff overcame years severely ill, bed bound, &amp; medically abused to find his own diagnosis.</title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Wood has one of the greatest Lazarus-like life stories you will ever hear. Jeff’s experience is made even more remarkable by a health care system that denied he was even ill. Jeff was so sick and disabled he spent years bed bound requiring care from his family, while physicians told him he was not really sick and that he had psychological problems.</p>
<p>But Jeff was very, very sick, and through his own tenacity and own research from his hospital bed, was able to determine the cause of his inability to be vertical, set up a meeting with a world renowned neurosurgeon, get a diagnosis over his phone, and a referral from that neurosurgeon to transfer Jeff to his hospital for surgery.</p>
<p>But the current hospital, deeply ego invested in their psychological diagnosis, refused to transfer Jeff for the surgery, while they continued to verbally and psychologically abuse and torment him.</p>
<p>I am amazed by Jeff’s journey to hell and back, but especially by his rational and grounded account of medical errors that can be traced back to when he was a toddler, and his determination to help other patients not have to endure the medical error and abuses he survived.</p>
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<p>4:45</p>
<p>Jeff talks about how his story will blow people's mind - his tethered cord, leg and foot pain as a child, <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Brea'>Jen Brea</a></p>
<p>6:15</p>

<a href='https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12s6wiC-2LIWlshV-7cuRtPJcjd4ZOv_L9F7lZOy_Q_c/edit#gid=0&range=E5'>Tethered cord</a> and its relationship to <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiKt8SZ78DiAhUBUa0KHd2VDLgQFjAFegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCraniocervical_instability&usg=AOvVaw3nNyhwJzW5hKGdKMvUYUUx'>craniocervical instability</a> (CCI) and the 3 parts to our spinal cord, but Jeff's cord was still attached, but he had no idea except for leg and foot pain until he was 4 years old - diagnosed with 'anxiety'


8:10


<a href='https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12s6wiC-2LIWlshV-7cuRtPJcjd4ZOv_L9F7lZOy_Q_c/edit#gid=0&range=E6'>Dr Petra Klinge</a> - top tethered cord surgeon in the world - a lot of her patients also have CCI - 2 conditions often occur together


9:05


After Jeff's CCI surgery, he started to experience the same foot pain he had as a small child - 2nd surgery to free his cord - more symptoms went away


9:40


Jeff thinks if he had of been diagnosed properly as a 4 year old and had the tethered cord surgery, he would not have developed CCI as an adult and lost 4-5 years to severe illness


10:25


Two conditions related to tethered cord: <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjDpIi278DiAhUNUK0KHfV8BTcQFjAAegQICBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSpina_bifida&usg=AOvVaw3gGxSTDaBFE9lz-dXYYymE'>Spina bifida</a> and <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjDldbD78DiAhVGvKwKHQZsBaQQFjAAegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEhlers%25E2%2580%2593Danlos_syndromes&usg=AOvVaw3VCHcDAtkWAq57ODkPTwyj'>Ehler Danlos Syndrome</a> (EDS)


11:03


Jeff studied cognitive science - standard childhood - he is interested in the human mind - mutliple realities - how do we open our minds?


12:45


Working toward his Doctorate - but started to get sick with 'mild' ME (<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiyjb_k78DiAhUHY6wKHS9nCT0QFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMyalgic_encephalomyelitis&usg=AOvVaw1s7PxUCTe2Dcunj5gO0QR0'>Myalgic Encephalomyelitis</a>) in Graduate School (end of 2011) - had bad flu but didn't get better - only half the energy he used to have - shocking, didn't know what to think - 'I'll just push through and it will go away' - it didn't, the more he pushed, the sicker he got


15:00


Can't socialize, can't go to the gym - had to go part time to school - then ended up bed ridden June 26 2014.


16:30


How being severely ill impacted his relationship - Jeff's parents came to help take care of him - put fridge in his room - couldn't prepare meals, needed help bathing
 

 


19:00


Many tests and specialists but none could figure out his problem - Jeff would try to generate hypothesis to explain his symptoms - but the doctors would say he was healthy, that maybe he had anxiety - imply he was depressed or malingering or take advantage of medicine or seeking attention


21:10


After bad crash in 2014 Jeff started looking into ME - started seeing <a href='https://centerforcomplexdiseases.business.site/'>Dr David Kaufman</a>


22:20


Relieved to find illness, ME, that matches his symptoms - but no known cure, and is life long - a death sentence, overwhelmingly sad


23:15


Dr Kaufman history of HIV physician - works with discriminated populations - had moved onto the puzzle of ME - a very compassionate doctor who understands some patients are harmed by health care system - same office as <a href='https://centerforcomplexdiseases.business.site/'>Dr Bela Chheda</a>


25:00


First visit with Dr Kaufman - he was very curious - wanted chronology of symptoms, Kaufman was very prepared, very good listener - Jeff had to lie down during appointment because he walked but too embarrassed to use his wheelchair - Kaufman did not blink - diagnosed with <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=15&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjb_q28_q_iAhWMmeAKHSICC4cQFjAOegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPostural_orthostatic_tachycardia_syndrome&usg=AOvVaw2F_C9k2pCp9UDsemNKLlIE'>POTS</a> (postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome) - autonomic system dysfunction when going from laying to standing, heart rate, blood pressure affected - took lots of blood for testing


28:15


Jeff learns for first time he has abnormalities in his blood in spit of many tests over previous years - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epstein%E2%80%93Barr_virus'>Epstein Barr virus</a> (EBV) - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwig34HT_q_iAhVmh-AKHRtxC0oQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FImmunoglobulin_M&usg=AOvVaw3ymXz3qRNnwIeiDGgNoKrw'>IgM antibodies</a> for acute infection - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjhg8vt_q_iAhUoh-AKHcqXB2wQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FImmunoglobulin_G&usg=AOvVaw1ohipSI-H1VNGn2-5ue_Ps'>IgG antibodies</a> indicate persistent infection - Jeff recently infected with EBV - but Kaufman sees it a lot in ME patients - but when Jeff gets to wear neck collar, his titres disappear
 
 
 


30:15


Jeff explains how brain stem compression can affect the immune system, autonomic system - turns out both systems work together - cause downstream effects including energy and <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjL5v6m_6_iAhUpSN8KHfZUDw0QFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCitric_acid_cycle&usg=AOvVaw1Gmei6bqouMdhQRQEYh4DI'>Kreb Cycle</a> - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjH-JnI_6_iAhUQc98KHTbaD84QFjACegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRonald_Davis&usg=AOvVaw3KiB1fJOiZ4nB1b1E1-unr'>Dr Ron Davis</a> had found abnormalities in energy metabolism in ME - if you have a structural problem in your brain stem it can impact auto, immune and metabolism, all found in ME - endocrine problems too? Jeff thinks there would be


32:50


Also found Jeff's <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwidgJmN_6_iAhWMTd8KHcgFCm4QFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNatural_killer_cell&usg=AOvVaw0mPXPir_-UnixxNhJ9GhA4'>natural killer</a> function low late 2014 - unsure why - discovered very low <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjTnYji_6_iAhWGTd8KHTySApcQFjAAegQICBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FVasopressin&usg=AOvVaw17jG6xpkykAAXdYPrQcH5j'>vasopressin</a> causing frequent urination - also a symptom of tethered cord because it is a neurological problem - neurogenic bladder - Jeff basically had no vasopressin hormone - associates tethered cord with frequent urination as his body tried to create a new balance - ME structural problem triggers cascade of symptoms


36:05


Started antivirals for EBV, 2 standard meds - also started 2 meds for POTS and some symptom relief but would then be too active and crash / get sicker - likens meds to a bandaid, but had to 'pace' - budgeting energy - if Jeff made breakfast and showered he'd be sick for days, but if only made breakfast, he could shower the next day


38:30


ME, Myalgic Encephalomyelitis - Jeff explains a 'crash' from exertion, like showering or making breakfast - equates showering to running a marathon without any training and carrying 40 pounds - the more severe ME, the less a person can do - Jeff couldn't even shower on his own, he had to have people to wheel chair him to the shower chair and directly back to bed and that would cause a crash


41:35


Periods when Jeff is so sick he cannot speak, then did not have energy to write simple notes - crashing can be caused by light and sound - Jeff experienced this, he could not tolerate light, it would crash him for days - dark room, ear plugs, only showered every 2 weeks because it would make him so much sicker - very low quality of life


43:30


Jeff became more severe in 2015 after starting to see Kaufman and had some improvement but Jeff pushed himself and crashed into severe - emaciated, extremely pale - Jeff's Mom said he looked like he was dying of cancer - only when he was very severe did Jeff look ill, contributing to dismissal by doctors
 

 


46:10


Jeff's partner and parents knew he was ill even though doctors said Jeff was fine - Jeff's partner saw his daily decline - fortunate to have support of partner and family - Jeff's mental health had to fight to want to keep going, to live, to figure out what was going on - even though he knew the odds of getting better was slim - but he was going to try to defy the odds and had to psych himself up - Jeff would say to himself when feeling overwhelmed and hopeless, he'd focus on good things like his cat and his partner - profound grief and sadness from his situation, but not depressed because he wanted to do things


50:30


With ME, Jeff wanted to do things, be social, but too ill


51:35


When very severe, Jeff realized that only improvement came by being completely still, no talking, no movement - after few days slight improvement - realized he needed to do extreme pacing to get small gains - now understands that was taking pressure of his brainstem by being supine - allowing body to heal


53:40


One day Jeff's neck started to hurt - had root canal and some teeth removed, noticed he had to chew differently - then 'boom' his neck was very painful and getting headaches - felt like his head was sinking down between his shoulders - breathing difficulty when upright - felt like 'the opposite of winning the lottery twice' - very sad situation with ME and completely new problem - went to emergencvy room (ER) several times and treated horribly


56:10


Jeff reluctant to go to ER - had horrible, traumatizing issues when going with ME symptoms - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjq9aDngLDiAhUKpFkKHdfRA9YQFjABegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMast_cell&usg=AOvVaw3yZVoCWaTGyVqGNPb3fCZn'>Mast cell</a> issues - assumed Jeff had psych issues and labeled him with anxiety - ER physically ejected him by security - so when neck problems developed he had to try 3 different ERs in one night but none would help - Jeff asked for cervical collar and that was helpful


58:45


Collar is helping, breathe easier - will tide him over until he can get more help - but not getting any where in California in spite of research being showed to specialists - journal articles about CCI and how they can cause every symptom Jeff had - took them to <a href='https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiZw4j8gLDiAhUNW4YKHer-AtsYABAAGgJ2dQ&ae=1&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2DTSGua_AhqVTJk3sp2PZheCfCu8CV_p3ybphrcMnzb1h--PVKbAQDL7fBf-dCNY9SO4n8Wr_LxQ00wHlab8&sig=AOD64_3KocJ_aM9WAdV7RmLCEpZvOaqEdA&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjl6vz7gLDiAhXG1FkKHddRAYoQ0Qx6BAgNEAE&adurl=https://stanfordhealthcare.org%3Fkwcid%3Dadwords%26campaignid%3D194581047%26adgroup%3D18258712407%26keyword%3Dstanford%2520hospital%26matchtype%3De%26position%3D1t1%26gclid%3DCjwKCAjw5pPnBRBJEiwAULZKvi9YYkjJOU2IGxMc4nE70BvTAYvwuYpae42Mp4vKKL70V03J8J_xWRoCS2MQAvD_BwE'>Stanford hospital</a> and University of California, San Francisco (<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj_yqqugbDiAhWEmVkKHTUeDRkQFjAAegQIABAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ucsfhealth.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw0UB2yPPmagym2GFAm0nqqD'>UCSF</a>) hospital but doctors offended Jeff would self-diagnose, and dismissed him and journal articles
 

 


1:01:25


Jeff gets <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjzrbXTgbDiAhVhzlkKHboNC7QQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMagnetic_resonance_imaging&usg=AOvVaw3I_JzHl4gnMBFp2PKlXIRQ'>MRIs</a> but they are read as 'normal' but Jeff knows from his research that he needed specific type of MRI so specialist can interpret - pivotal moment when he got admitted when he switched to 'weaker' collar, but soon collapsed, but sill couldn't sit up - something had fundamentally changed - waited 24 hours still could not sit up - perhaps 'stronger' collar weakened Jeff's already weakened muscles - Catch 22 - but Jeff so severe, the collar allowed some function


1:04:40


Jeff thinks CCI symptoms is extension of ME - but once Jeff had CCI surgery, his ME symptoms lifted - tethered cord since birth, pulls on brain stem, related to EDS


1:06:40


How does viral infection fit into this puzzle? 2 ways: virus can degrade collagen / ligaments - if you already have EDS, even more vulnerable to viral degradation of collagen - 2nd way is already have structural problem impacting immune system, then a viral onset may cause CCI / ME.


1:09:25


Admitted to local hospital, they were hostile to him always, that didn't change - Kaufman and family advocated to get Jeff admitted - they did MRI but not the right one to detect CCI and no CCI experts in California - but Jeff knew he needed to get to a hospital with CCI neurosurgeons - but this hospital treated Jeff as malingerer - finally a neurosurgeon coerced to see Jeff, but surgeon lied about EDS and CCI knowledge - arrogance factor


1:12:55


"I was very traumatized" - Jeff knew the only way to get through was to fight - hospital cruel and hostile to him, causing trauma - systemic medical abuse - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjdxraGgrDiAhVKq1kKHej9Br0QFjABegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2F%3Ftitle%3DIatrogenic%26redirect%3Dno&usg=AOvVaw36faU_K3nC-FgyahZMw-C-'>iatrogenic harm</a>


1:14:45


3 weeks flat on back, head down, feet up in hospital - transferred to world renowned hospital that considered very, very good - abuse intensified at new hospital


1:16:20


Nurses generally very kind - doctors were abusive - they gave him cerebral spinal fluid (CSF) surgery in case he had a leak - when that didn't work, they became more hostile - told he needs to accept there is nothing wrong with him - wasting our time - abuse by residents, physical therapists in spite of Jeff vomiting - but 2 internists validated Jeff's symptoms but they were powerless - others would berate him - Jeff wanted to be transferred to east coast to see CCI doctors, but they refused - they tried to transfer Jeff to a nursing home
 

 


1:20:15


Jeff recounts laying in hospital bed having a consult with east coast surgeon via skype - Jeff gets diagnosed with CCI via video conference by looking at images - but hospital refused to transfer Jeff to east coast - so forced Jeff to endure abuse and torture and threat of financial ruin - these same neurosurgeons at same hospital also did same thing to a female with CCI - Jeff experienced new level of abuse, mistreatment - expresses empathy for others experiencing same


1:23:30


Jeff's family helps get insurance coverage, but it took months to change health insurer so he could to out of state for care - had to hire attorney to prevent hospital from shipping Jeff to nursing home - his lawyer tells him that he must have a family member with him at the hospital 24 hours a day so the hospital doesn't transfer him - fortunately no homes would accept him - treatment from hospital staff much worse when Jeff's family not in room


1:25:30


Contrasting health care experiences with something common and simple like broken arm to treatment when having complex illness


1:26:30


Hostile hospital runs more tests and do find CCI and put Jeff in the halo he'd been asking for since he was admitted - Jeff's explains screws put into his skull to hold head in place - used until he got surgery


1:28:30


First week of halo was difficult but Jeff adjusted - but gave him freedom from bed bound - he could stand up! "Felt like freedom" - Jeff's legs like toothpicks because of atrophy


1:30:20


Waiting for surgery with halo - then had surgery Jan 31 2018 - drilled holes into Jeff's skull and first and 2nd vertebrae and implanted plate to stabilize neck / head - 7.5 hours of surgery - had lots of pain meds coming out of surgery - but 'a hiccup' compared to years of severe ME - no more POTS, post exertional malaise - viral and urination normalized - light and sound sensitivity and brain fog disappeared - but hard to have hope but slowly accept that surgery helped ME


1:34:00


Jeff first person to link CCI and ME - wants to make others aware - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=23&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj1hsHOgrDiAhWRr1kKHbquDp0QFjAWegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fphoenixrising.me%2F&usg=AOvVaw3Enbfci1XrEb8uq3-pzIar'>Phoenix Rising</a> forum to share info for ME patients


1:35:30


<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi48q3mgrDiAhUyrVkKHarkA3gQFjAMegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPeter_Rowe&usg=AOvVaw23OPsWOzIkn2_OEx_ut2RR'>Dr Peter Rowe</a> paper 3 people have ME but found to have CCI and surgery cured their ME - up to 10 people with CCI diagnosis, including Jen Brea - more people getting tested and treated - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjAzMzAqcHiAhUQj1kKHQgYDlgQFjACegQIDhAK&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUnrest_(2017_film)&usg=AOvVaw0wlIxKcO0cIygjikoSzqXM'>Unrest documentary</a> about ME made by Jen Brea - both are sharing their CCI stories
 

 


1:38:05


Dr Chhedda works same office as Dr Kaufman - Jeff originally took CCI article to Kaufman - Jeff is 'patient zero' - Kaufman believed Jeff and wants to solve problem and help patient - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiW-ZHcmbDiAhXEneAKHfoRC5gQFjAAegQIABAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcenterforcomplexdiseases.business.site%2F&usg=AOvVaw1ryZ7ZtTsYRfSShpz5xNMX'>Centre for Complex Diseases</a>


1:40:10


Jeff decides to tell his story publicly - feels he 'had to' tell people - when patients come together we can pressure the system to act quickly


1:41:30


<a href='https://www.mechanicalbasis.org/'>Jeff's website</a> and <a href='https://twitter.com/jeff_says_that'>twitter account</a> - will build Facebook page - wanting to partner with MDs and organizations to incorporate CCI into diagnosing ME - want to shout from roof tops so this knowledge can be intergrated into ME care


1:43:25


As Jeff was repeatedly mistreated, he became angry and that is driving him toward patient advocacy - Jeff thinks he will be 100% recovered - amazed by his progress - had accepted he would never get better - hard to believe he's not living like that any more


1:46:15


Mast cell problems and POTS disappeared after surgery - can go to gym, go for a run, be around his cats


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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Wood has one of the greatest Lazarus-like life stories you will ever hear. Jeff’s experience is made even more remarkable by a health care system that denied he was even ill. Jeff was so sick and disabled he spent years bed bound requiring care from his family, while physicians told him he was not really sick and that he had psychological problems.</p>
<p>But Jeff was very, very sick, and through his own tenacity and own research from his hospital bed, was able to determine the cause of his inability to be vertical, set up a meeting with a world renowned neurosurgeon, get a diagnosis over his phone, and a referral from that neurosurgeon to transfer Jeff to his hospital for surgery.</p>
<p>But the current hospital, deeply ego invested in their psychological diagnosis, refused to transfer Jeff for the surgery, while they continued to verbally and psychologically abuse and torment him.</p>
<p>I am amazed by Jeff’s journey to hell and back, but especially by his rational and grounded account of medical errors that can be traced back to when he was a toddler, and his determination to help other patients not have to endure the medical error and abuses he survived.</p>
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<p>4:45</p>
<p>Jeff talks about how his story will blow people's mind - his tethered cord, leg and foot pain as a child, <a href='https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Brea'>Jen Brea</a></p>
<p>6:15</p>

<a href='https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12s6wiC-2LIWlshV-7cuRtPJcjd4ZOv_L9F7lZOy_Q_c/edit#gid=0&range=E5'>Tethered cord</a> and its relationship to <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiKt8SZ78DiAhUBUa0KHd2VDLgQFjAFegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCraniocervical_instability&usg=AOvVaw3nNyhwJzW5hKGdKMvUYUUx'>craniocervical instability</a> (CCI) and the 3 parts to our spinal cord, but Jeff's cord was still attached, but he had no idea except for leg and foot pain until he was 4 years old - diagnosed with 'anxiety'


8:10


<a href='https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12s6wiC-2LIWlshV-7cuRtPJcjd4ZOv_L9F7lZOy_Q_c/edit#gid=0&range=E6'>Dr Petra Klinge</a> - top tethered cord surgeon in the world - a lot of her patients also have CCI - 2 conditions often occur together


9:05


After Jeff's CCI surgery, he started to experience the same foot pain he had as a small child - 2nd surgery to free his cord - more symptoms went away


9:40


Jeff thinks if he had of been diagnosed properly as a 4 year old and had the tethered cord surgery, he would not have developed CCI as an adult and lost 4-5 years to severe illness


10:25


Two conditions related to tethered cord: <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjDpIi278DiAhUNUK0KHfV8BTcQFjAAegQICBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSpina_bifida&usg=AOvVaw3gGxSTDaBFE9lz-dXYYymE'>Spina bifida</a> and <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjDldbD78DiAhVGvKwKHQZsBaQQFjAAegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEhlers%25E2%2580%2593Danlos_syndromes&usg=AOvVaw3VCHcDAtkWAq57ODkPTwyj'>Ehler Danlos Syndrome</a> (EDS)


11:03


Jeff studied cognitive science - standard childhood - he is interested in the human mind - mutliple realities - how do we open our minds?


12:45


Working toward his Doctorate - but started to get sick with 'mild' ME (<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiyjb_k78DiAhUHY6wKHS9nCT0QFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMyalgic_encephalomyelitis&usg=AOvVaw1s7PxUCTe2Dcunj5gO0QR0'>Myalgic Encephalomyelitis</a>) in Graduate School (end of 2011) - had bad flu but didn't get better - only half the energy he used to have - shocking, didn't know what to think - 'I'll just push through and it will go away' - it didn't, the more he pushed, the sicker he got


15:00


Can't socialize, can't go to the gym - had to go part time to school - then ended up bed ridden June 26 2014.


16:30


How being severely ill impacted his relationship - Jeff's parents came to help take care of him - put fridge in his room - couldn't prepare meals, needed help bathing
 

 


19:00


Many tests and specialists but none could figure out his problem - Jeff would try to generate hypothesis to explain his symptoms - but the doctors would say he was healthy, that maybe he had anxiety - imply he was depressed or malingering or take advantage of medicine or seeking attention


21:10


After bad crash in 2014 Jeff started looking into ME - started seeing <a href='https://centerforcomplexdiseases.business.site/'>Dr David Kaufman</a>


22:20


Relieved to find illness, ME, that matches his symptoms - but no known cure, and is life long - a death sentence, overwhelmingly sad


23:15


Dr Kaufman history of HIV physician - works with discriminated populations - had moved onto the puzzle of ME - a very compassionate doctor who understands some patients are harmed by health care system - same office as <a href='https://centerforcomplexdiseases.business.site/'>Dr Bela Chheda</a>


25:00


First visit with Dr Kaufman - he was very curious - wanted chronology of symptoms, Kaufman was very prepared, very good listener - Jeff had to lie down during appointment because he walked but too embarrassed to use his wheelchair - Kaufman did not blink - diagnosed with <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=15&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjb_q28_q_iAhWMmeAKHSICC4cQFjAOegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPostural_orthostatic_tachycardia_syndrome&usg=AOvVaw2F_C9k2pCp9UDsemNKLlIE'>POTS</a> (postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome) - autonomic system dysfunction when going from laying to standing, heart rate, blood pressure affected - took lots of blood for testing


28:15


Jeff learns for first time he has abnormalities in his blood in spit of many tests over previous years - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epstein%E2%80%93Barr_virus'>Epstein Barr virus</a> (EBV) - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwig34HT_q_iAhVmh-AKHRtxC0oQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FImmunoglobulin_M&usg=AOvVaw3ymXz3qRNnwIeiDGgNoKrw'>IgM antibodies</a> for acute infection - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjhg8vt_q_iAhUoh-AKHcqXB2wQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FImmunoglobulin_G&usg=AOvVaw1ohipSI-H1VNGn2-5ue_Ps'>IgG antibodies</a> indicate persistent infection - Jeff recently infected with EBV - but Kaufman sees it a lot in ME patients - but when Jeff gets to wear neck collar, his titres disappear
 
 
 


30:15


Jeff explains how brain stem compression can affect the immune system, autonomic system - turns out both systems work together - cause downstream effects including energy and <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjL5v6m_6_iAhUpSN8KHfZUDw0QFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCitric_acid_cycle&usg=AOvVaw1Gmei6bqouMdhQRQEYh4DI'>Kreb Cycle</a> - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjH-JnI_6_iAhUQc98KHTbaD84QFjACegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRonald_Davis&usg=AOvVaw3KiB1fJOiZ4nB1b1E1-unr'>Dr Ron Davis</a> had found abnormalities in energy metabolism in ME - if you have a structural problem in your brain stem it can impact auto, immune and metabolism, all found in ME - endocrine problems too? Jeff thinks there would be


32:50


Also found Jeff's <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwidgJmN_6_iAhWMTd8KHcgFCm4QFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNatural_killer_cell&usg=AOvVaw0mPXPir_-UnixxNhJ9GhA4'>natural killer</a> function low late 2014 - unsure why - discovered very low <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjTnYji_6_iAhWGTd8KHTySApcQFjAAegQICBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FVasopressin&usg=AOvVaw17jG6xpkykAAXdYPrQcH5j'>vasopressin</a> causing frequent urination - also a symptom of tethered cord because it is a neurological problem - neurogenic bladder - Jeff basically had no vasopressin hormone - associates tethered cord with frequent urination as his body tried to create a new balance - ME structural problem triggers cascade of symptoms


36:05


Started antivirals for EBV, 2 standard meds - also started 2 meds for POTS and some symptom relief but would then be too active and crash / get sicker - likens meds to a bandaid, but had to 'pace' - budgeting energy - if Jeff made breakfast and showered he'd be sick for days, but if only made breakfast, he could shower the next day


38:30


ME, Myalgic Encephalomyelitis - Jeff explains a 'crash' from exertion, like showering or making breakfast - equates showering to running a marathon without any training and carrying 40 pounds - the more severe ME, the less a person can do - Jeff couldn't even shower on his own, he had to have people to wheel chair him to the shower chair and directly back to bed and that would cause a crash


41:35


Periods when Jeff is so sick he cannot speak, then did not have energy to write simple notes - crashing can be caused by light and sound - Jeff experienced this, he could not tolerate light, it would crash him for days - dark room, ear plugs, only showered every 2 weeks because it would make him so much sicker - very low quality of life


43:30


Jeff became more severe in 2015 after starting to see Kaufman and had some improvement but Jeff pushed himself and crashed into severe - emaciated, extremely pale - Jeff's Mom said he looked like he was dying of cancer - only when he was very severe did Jeff look ill, contributing to dismissal by doctors
 

 


46:10


Jeff's partner and parents knew he was ill even though doctors said Jeff was fine - Jeff's partner saw his daily decline - fortunate to have support of partner and family - Jeff's mental health had to fight to want to keep going, to live, to figure out what was going on - even though he knew the odds of getting better was slim - but he was going to try to defy the odds and had to psych himself up - Jeff would say to himself when feeling overwhelmed and hopeless, he'd focus on good things like his cat and his partner - profound grief and sadness from his situation, but not depressed because he wanted to do things


50:30


With ME, Jeff wanted to do things, be social, but too ill


51:35


When very severe, Jeff realized that only improvement came by being completely still, no talking, no movement - after few days slight improvement - realized he needed to do extreme pacing to get small gains - now understands that was taking pressure of his brainstem by being supine - allowing body to heal


53:40


One day Jeff's neck started to hurt - had root canal and some teeth removed, noticed he had to chew differently - then 'boom' his neck was very painful and getting headaches - felt like his head was sinking down between his shoulders - breathing difficulty when upright - felt like 'the opposite of winning the lottery twice' - very sad situation with ME and completely new problem - went to emergencvy room (ER) several times and treated horribly


56:10


Jeff reluctant to go to ER - had horrible, traumatizing issues when going with ME symptoms - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjq9aDngLDiAhUKpFkKHdfRA9YQFjABegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMast_cell&usg=AOvVaw3yZVoCWaTGyVqGNPb3fCZn'>Mast cell</a> issues - assumed Jeff had psych issues and labeled him with anxiety - ER physically ejected him by security - so when neck problems developed he had to try 3 different ERs in one night but none would help - Jeff asked for cervical collar and that was helpful


58:45


Collar is helping, breathe easier - will tide him over until he can get more help - but not getting any where in California in spite of research being showed to specialists - journal articles about CCI and how they can cause every symptom Jeff had - took them to <a href='https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiZw4j8gLDiAhUNW4YKHer-AtsYABAAGgJ2dQ&ae=1&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2DTSGua_AhqVTJk3sp2PZheCfCu8CV_p3ybphrcMnzb1h--PVKbAQDL7fBf-dCNY9SO4n8Wr_LxQ00wHlab8&sig=AOD64_3KocJ_aM9WAdV7RmLCEpZvOaqEdA&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjl6vz7gLDiAhXG1FkKHddRAYoQ0Qx6BAgNEAE&adurl=https://stanfordhealthcare.org%3Fkwcid%3Dadwords%26campaignid%3D194581047%26adgroup%3D18258712407%26keyword%3Dstanford%2520hospital%26matchtype%3De%26position%3D1t1%26gclid%3DCjwKCAjw5pPnBRBJEiwAULZKvi9YYkjJOU2IGxMc4nE70BvTAYvwuYpae42Mp4vKKL70V03J8J_xWRoCS2MQAvD_BwE'>Stanford hospital</a> and University of California, San Francisco (<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj_yqqugbDiAhWEmVkKHTUeDRkQFjAAegQIABAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ucsfhealth.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw0UB2yPPmagym2GFAm0nqqD'>UCSF</a>) hospital but doctors offended Jeff would self-diagnose, and dismissed him and journal articles
 

 


1:01:25


Jeff gets <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjzrbXTgbDiAhVhzlkKHboNC7QQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMagnetic_resonance_imaging&usg=AOvVaw3I_JzHl4gnMBFp2PKlXIRQ'>MRIs</a> but they are read as 'normal' but Jeff knows from his research that he needed specific type of MRI so specialist can interpret - pivotal moment when he got admitted when he switched to 'weaker' collar, but soon collapsed, but sill couldn't sit up - something had fundamentally changed - waited 24 hours still could not sit up - perhaps 'stronger' collar weakened Jeff's already weakened muscles - Catch 22 - but Jeff so severe, the collar allowed some function


1:04:40


Jeff thinks CCI symptoms is extension of ME - but once Jeff had CCI surgery, his ME symptoms lifted - tethered cord since birth, pulls on brain stem, related to EDS


1:06:40


How does viral infection fit into this puzzle? 2 ways: virus can degrade collagen / ligaments - if you already have EDS, even more vulnerable to viral degradation of collagen - 2nd way is already have structural problem impacting immune system, then a viral onset may cause CCI / ME.


1:09:25


Admitted to local hospital, they were hostile to him always, that didn't change - Kaufman and family advocated to get Jeff admitted - they did MRI but not the right one to detect CCI and no CCI experts in California - but Jeff knew he needed to get to a hospital with CCI neurosurgeons - but this hospital treated Jeff as malingerer - finally a neurosurgeon coerced to see Jeff, but surgeon lied about EDS and CCI knowledge - arrogance factor


1:12:55


"I was very traumatized" - Jeff knew the only way to get through was to fight - hospital cruel and hostile to him, causing trauma - systemic medical abuse - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjdxraGgrDiAhVKq1kKHej9Br0QFjABegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2F%3Ftitle%3DIatrogenic%26redirect%3Dno&usg=AOvVaw36faU_K3nC-FgyahZMw-C-'>iatrogenic harm</a>


1:14:45


3 weeks flat on back, head down, feet up in hospital - transferred to world renowned hospital that considered very, very good - abuse intensified at new hospital


1:16:20


Nurses generally very kind - doctors were abusive - they gave him cerebral spinal fluid (CSF) surgery in case he had a leak - when that didn't work, they became more hostile - told he needs to accept there is nothing wrong with him - wasting our time - abuse by residents, physical therapists in spite of Jeff vomiting - but 2 internists validated Jeff's symptoms but they were powerless - others would berate him - Jeff wanted to be transferred to east coast to see CCI doctors, but they refused - they tried to transfer Jeff to a nursing home
 

 


1:20:15


Jeff recounts laying in hospital bed having a consult with east coast surgeon via skype - Jeff gets diagnosed with CCI via video conference by looking at images - but hospital refused to transfer Jeff to east coast - so forced Jeff to endure abuse and torture and threat of financial ruin - these same neurosurgeons at same hospital also did same thing to a female with CCI - Jeff experienced new level of abuse, mistreatment - expresses empathy for others experiencing same


1:23:30


Jeff's family helps get insurance coverage, but it took months to change health insurer so he could to out of state for care - had to hire attorney to prevent hospital from shipping Jeff to nursing home - his lawyer tells him that he must have a family member with him at the hospital 24 hours a day so the hospital doesn't transfer him - fortunately no homes would accept him - treatment from hospital staff much worse when Jeff's family not in room


1:25:30


Contrasting health care experiences with something common and simple like broken arm to treatment when having complex illness


1:26:30


Hostile hospital runs more tests and do find CCI and put Jeff in the halo he'd been asking for since he was admitted - Jeff's explains screws put into his skull to hold head in place - used until he got surgery


1:28:30


First week of halo was difficult but Jeff adjusted - but gave him freedom from bed bound - he could stand up! "Felt like freedom" - Jeff's legs like toothpicks because of atrophy


1:30:20


Waiting for surgery with halo - then had surgery Jan 31 2018 - drilled holes into Jeff's skull and first and 2nd vertebrae and implanted plate to stabilize neck / head - 7.5 hours of surgery - had lots of pain meds coming out of surgery - but 'a hiccup' compared to years of severe ME - no more POTS, post exertional malaise - viral and urination normalized - light and sound sensitivity and brain fog disappeared - but hard to have hope but slowly accept that surgery helped ME


1:34:00


Jeff first person to link CCI and ME - wants to make others aware - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=23&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj1hsHOgrDiAhWRr1kKHbquDp0QFjAWegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fphoenixrising.me%2F&usg=AOvVaw3Enbfci1XrEb8uq3-pzIar'>Phoenix Rising</a> forum to share info for ME patients


1:35:30


<a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi48q3mgrDiAhUyrVkKHarkA3gQFjAMegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fme-pedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPeter_Rowe&usg=AOvVaw23OPsWOzIkn2_OEx_ut2RR'>Dr Peter Rowe</a> paper 3 people have ME but found to have CCI and surgery cured their ME - up to 10 people with CCI diagnosis, including Jen Brea - more people getting tested and treated - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjAzMzAqcHiAhUQj1kKHQgYDlgQFjACegQIDhAK&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUnrest_(2017_film)&usg=AOvVaw0wlIxKcO0cIygjikoSzqXM'>Unrest documentary</a> about ME made by Jen Brea - both are sharing their CCI stories
 

 


1:38:05


Dr Chhedda works same office as Dr Kaufman - Jeff originally took CCI article to Kaufman - Jeff is 'patient zero' - Kaufman believed Jeff and wants to solve problem and help patient - <a href='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiW-ZHcmbDiAhXEneAKHfoRC5gQFjAAegQIABAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcenterforcomplexdiseases.business.site%2F&usg=AOvVaw1ryZ7ZtTsYRfSShpz5xNMX'>Centre for Complex Diseases</a>


1:40:10


Jeff decides to tell his story publicly - feels he 'had to' tell people - when patients come together we can pressure the system to act quickly


1:41:30


<a href='https://www.mechanicalbasis.org/'>Jeff's website</a> and <a href='https://twitter.com/jeff_says_that'>twitter account</a> - will build Facebook page - wanting to partner with MDs and organizations to incorporate CCI into diagnosing ME - want to shout from roof tops so this knowledge can be intergrated into ME care


1:43:25


As Jeff was repeatedly mistreated, he became angry and that is driving him toward patient advocacy - Jeff thinks he will be 100% recovered - amazed by his progress - had accepted he would never get better - hard to believe he's not living like that any more


1:46:15


Mast cell problems and POTS disappeared after surgery - can go to gym, go for a run, be around his cats


1:47:30 End
 

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But Jeff was very, very sick, and through his own tenacity and own research from his hospital bed, was able to determine the cause of his inability to be vertical, set up a meeting with a world renowned neurosurgeon, get a diagnosis over his phone, and a referral from that neurosurgeon to transfer Jeff to his hospital for surgery.
But the current hospital, deeply ego invested in their psychological diagnosis, refused to transfer Jeff for the surgery, while they continued to verbally and psychologically abuse and torment him.
I am amazed by Jeff’s journey to hell and back, but especially by his rational and grounded account of medical errors that can be traced back to when he was a toddler, and his determination to help other patients not have to endure the medical error and abuses he survived.

 
4:45
Jeff talks about how his story will blow people's mind - his tethered cord, leg and foot pain as a child, Jen Brea
6:15

Tethered cord and its relationship to craniocervical instability (CCI) and the 3 parts to our spinal cord, but Jeff's cord was still attached, but he had no idea except for leg and foot pain until he was 4 years old - diagnosed with 'anxiety'


8:10


Dr Petra Klinge - top tethered cord surgeon in the world - a lot of her patients also have CCI - 2 conditions often occur together


9:05


After Jeff's CCI surgery, he started to experience the same foot pain he had as a small child - 2nd surgery to free his cord - more symptoms went away


9:40


Jeff thinks if he had of been diagnosed properly as a 4 year old and had the tethered cord surgery, he would not have developed CCI as an adult and lost 4-5 years to severe illness


10:25


Two conditions related to tethered cord: Spina bifida and Ehler Danlos Syndrome (EDS)


11:03


Jeff studied cognitive science - standard childhood - he is interested in the human mind - mutliple realities - how do we open our minds?


12:45


Working toward his Doctorate - but started to get sick with 'mild' ME (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis) in Graduate School (end of 2011) - had bad flu but didn't get better - only half the energy he used to have - shocking, didn't know what to think - 'I'll just push through and it will go away' - it didn't, the more he pushed, the sicker he got


15:00


Can't socialize, can't go to the gym - had to go part time to school - then ended up bed ridden June 26 2014.


16:30


How being severely ill impacted his relationship - Jeff's parents came to help take care of him - put fridge in his room - couldn't prepare meals, needed help bathing
 

 


19:00


Many tests and specialists but none could figure out his problem - Jeff would try to generate hypothesis to explain his symptoms - but the doctors would say he was healthy, that maybe he had anxiety - imply he was depressed or malingering or take advantage of medicine or seeking attention


21:10


After bad crash in 2014 Jeff started looking into ME - started seeing Dr David Kaufman


22:20


Relieved to find illness, ME, that matches his symptoms - but no known cure, and is life long - a death sentence, overwhelmingly sad


23:15


Dr Kaufman history of HIV physician - works with discriminated populations - had moved onto the puzzle of ME - a very compassionate doctor who understands some patients are harmed by health care system - same office as Dr Bela Chheda


25:00


First visit with Dr Kaufman - he was very curious - wanted chronology of symptoms, Kaufman was very prepared, very good listener - Jeff had to lie down during appointment because he walked but too embarrassed to use his wheelchair - Kaufman did not blink - diagnosed with P]]></itunes:summary>
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