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Episode 358: High Yield Real Estate Lending: 2026 Outlook

Thu, 26 Feb 2026 00:03:00 -0600

Bill Maclay, Portfolio Manager in Fidelity’s High Income and Alternatives Division, joins Stewart Foley for a timely conversation on high yield real estate lending and how insurers are positioning in this evolving segment of the market. With banks retrenching, capital structures shifting, and construction volumes slowing, Bill shares how Fidelity is identifying opportunity while managing credit and structural risk across the real estate debt landscape. Drawing on more than two decades of experience across real estate equity and debt markets, Bill walks through key market dynamics, including the role of construction lending, geographic supply-demand imbalances, and where insurers can align capital with niche opportunities. He also discusses the potential for insurer partnerships, co-lending structures, and how Fidelity’s platform brings together public and private real estate capabilities to create value. Whether you're focused on CRE debt allocations, yield targets, or managing risk in uncertain markets, this episode offers a grounded, forward-looking view of where the real estate lending market is headed.

Episode 357: Lessons from the Tranches: How to Pick Good Bonds in Securitized Credit

Mon, 23 Feb 2026 00:21:00 -0600

Noah Funderburk, Portfolio Manager and Director of Securitized Credit at Pioneer Investments, joins the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast for a deep dive into the mechanics that matter most in structured credit. In this episode, he explores why risk and discomfort are often the source of return, how credit risk and interest rate convexity can compound drawdowns, and why sponsor incentives should never be overlooked. The conversation moves beyond headline yield to focus on tranche-level analysis, correlation risk, asset obsolescence, and securitization structures that delever over time. For insurance investors allocating to ABS, RMBS, CMBS, and multi-sector portfolios, this discussion offers a practical framework for evaluating complexity, pricing uncertainty, and managing downside risk in an evolving market environment.

Episode 356: Power Plays: How Insurers Can Invest in the Energy Transition

Thu, 19 Feb 2026 00:25:00 -0600

Neda Vakilian of Actis and David Swift of General Atlantic join the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast to explore how growth equity and infrastructure equity are reshaping the opportunity set for insurance investors in the energy transition era. As electrification accelerates, AI drives non-linear power demand, and energy security becomes a strategic priority, they outline how these structural forces are creating durable, long-term investment themes. The discussion examines the difference between traditional infrastructure debt and control-oriented equity strategies, highlighting capital-efficient growth businesses and essential, baseline infrastructure in both developed and growth markets. Neda and David detail how their teams approach risk, focusing on execution rather than technology risk, policy-agnostic business models, long-dated cash flows, and disciplined underwriting frameworks designed to support capital preservation. They also address how sustainability outcomes can emerge from solving economic problems, aligning measurable impact with institutional-grade return expectations. For insurers navigating long-duration liabilities and evolving enterprise risk priorities, this conversation offers a practical perspective on deploying capital into a structurally changing energy landscape.

Episode 355: Fraud Prevention in Private Asset-Backed Finance

Thu, 12 Feb 2026 00:09:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Joel Hart, Managing Director and Chief Risk Officer at Victory Park Capital, about the growing concern of fraud risk in asset-backed finance (ABF) and private credit. As insurance investors increase exposure to these sectors, Joel offers a candid look at why borrower misconduct tends to spike in late-cycle markets and outlines the types of fraud currently emerging such as double pledging, falsified collateral, and manipulated reporting. Joel also shares how Victory Park Capital’s independent risk function, data-driven monitoring systems, and hands-on portfolio management help mitigate these risks across the investment lifecycle. From the cultural importance of being willing to walk away from deals to key due diligence questions insurers should ask ABF managers, this episode delivers timely, actionable insights for insurance allocators navigating a complex credit landscape.

Episode 354: Convergence: Navigating the Blurred Lines Between Public and Private Credit

Mon, 09 Feb 2026 00:09:00 -0600

Chris Gudmastad, Managing Director and Portfolio Manager of Private Credit at Loomis Sayles, returns to the podcast for a deep dive into one of the most important shifts facing institutional investors: the convergence of public and private credit. As the traditional lines between market segments continue to blur, Chris offers a practical and forward-looking view of how insurers can adapt their frameworks for liquidity, complexity, and relative value. With more than 20 years of experience in private placements, structured credit, and insurance-focused investing, Chris walks through how capital structures are evolving, how new vehicles and secondaries are redefining liquidity, and how to apply a unified risk premium framework across asset classes. He also shares insights into organizational convergence and how teams at Loomis are collaborating across disciplines to underwrite complex, cross-market opportunities. Whether you’re refining your private credit allocations or evaluating new structures across public and private markets, this episode offers a grounded perspective on managing risk and return in 2026 and beyond.

Episode 353: Building Resilience Through Liquidity Optimization

Thu, 05 Feb 2026 00:26:00 -0600

Peter Schenck, Head of Liquidity Distribution at Northern Trust Asset Management, joins Stewart Foley for a timely conversation on how insurers are rethinking cash management in today's evolving environment. With over $350 billion in cash and short-duration assets under management, Peter offers an inside look at how liquidity is being used not just as a defensive allocation, but as a strategic tool for flexibility, capital efficiency, and operational readiness. The discussion covers the growth of money market funds, the mechanics behind pooled liquidity vehicles, and the role of segmentation in managing operating versus strategic cash. Peter also shares forward-looking insights on tokenization, digitalization, and the future of liquidity in a 24/7 global economy. For insurers navigating volatility, regulation, and balance sheet demands, this episode offers clear and practical takeaways.

Episode 352: Incorporating Tactical Asset Allocation into your Strategic Asset Allocation

Wed, 28 Jan 2026 00:10:00 -0600

Kerry O’Brien, Head of Insurance Asset Management and Multi-Asset Solutions at MetLife Investment Management, and Harold Myers, CFA, Portfolio Manager in MIM’s Insurance Asset Management Group, discuss how insurers thoughtfully incorporate tactical asset allocation within long-term strategic asset allocation frameworks. They explore how strategic asset allocation sets the foundation for resilient insurance portfolios, while tactical decisions allow insurers to respond to market dislocations, credit cycles, and shifting rate environments without resorting to market timing. The discussion covers governance, analytics, capital efficiency, and the role of experience and judgment in navigating complex insurance portfolios across market cycles. The episode also looks ahead to how tactical and relative value investing may evolve for insurers, including the growing role of customized structures, public and private market integration, and technology in supporting disciplined, client-aligned investment decisions.

Episode 350: Real Assets, Real Impact: Infrastructure in Modern Insurance Investing

Thu, 15 Jan 2026 00:11:00 -0600

Scott Littman, Managing Director of Infrastructure Investments at GCM Grosvenor, joins host Stewart Foley, CFA, on the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast for a wide-ranging discussion on infrastructure as a core component of modern insurance portfolios. The conversation explores how infrastructure is defined today, why essential assets with long-duration cash flows and inflation linkage have become increasingly important, and how insurers are approaching infrastructure across debt and equity strategies. Scott also shares insights on capital efficiency, regulatory considerations, and portfolio construction as insurers expand their allocations to real assets. The episode concludes with a look at the current macro environment, including opportunities and risks across sectors such as energy, transportation, and data centers, and practical considerations for insurers building or refining infrastructure programs.

Episode 349: Real Estate Secondaries: Opportunities for Insurers in Evolving Markets

Mon, 12 Jan 2026 00:51:00 -0600

Michelle Creed, Partner and Co-Head of Real Estate Secondaries, and Min Zhou, Managing Director in the Ares Secondaries Group, join host Stewart Foley, CFA, on the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast for an in-depth discussion on real estate secondaries and how the market has evolved. The conversation explores the growth of GP-led transactions and continuation vehicles, the impact of valuation resets and liquidity dynamics, and how real estate secondaries can be used as a portfolio management tool. Michelle and Min also address common misconceptions around discounts, asset quality, and the motivations behind secondary transactions. The episode concludes with insights into portfolio construction considerations, diversification, and capital efficiency, particularly as institutional investors navigate shifting real estate and private market environments.

Episode 348: Beyond Direct Lending: A New Era for Asset-Based Finance

Wed, 07 Jan 2026 00:19:00 -0600

Private asset-based finance (ABF) is gaining prominence in insurance portfolio strategy as insurers evaluate its capital efficiency, structural protections, and yield potential. In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, Stewart Foley is joined by John Roglieri, Managing Director in Brookfield's Strategic Credit Initiatives, and Remo Plunkett, Vice President in Brookfield’s Credit Group, to explore the evolution of ABF and its growing relevance for insurers. The discussion covers why ABF is not just a newer version of traditional securitized assets, but a broad, flexible toolkit that includes real assets, recurring cash flows, and customized structures tailored to insurer needs. With insights on risk management, capital treatment, and relative value versus direct lending, this episode offers a timely look at how insurers can build resilient portfolios in an increasingly complex credit environment.

Episode 347: Executive Spotlight: Meet The Institutes & Their CEO - Pete Miller

Mon, 05 Jan 2026 09:14:06 -0600

On this episode of the InsuranceAUM Podcast, Pete Miller, President and CEO of The Institutes, joins host Stewart Foley for a wide-ranging conversation on the newly announced affiliation and why it represents a meaningful step forward for the insurance industry. Together, they discuss how The Institutes’ more than century-long legacy in professional education complements InsuranceAUM’s focus on insurance investment knowledge, and why closing the education gap between underwriting, operations, and investing is becoming increasingly important as portfolios grow more complex. The conversation also dives into leadership, culture, and the role of values in building organizations that last. Miller shares insights from his career at the intersection of technology and insurance, including how The Institutes evaluates partnerships, why ethics remain foundational to innovation, and what it takes to prepare professionals for jobs that are still being defined. Foley reflects on the origins of InsuranceAUM, the motivation behind expanding educational access for insurance investors, and the vision for developing the next generation of talent through structured, credible learning. Looking ahead, the episode explores how advances in AI and data are reshaping both insurance operations and investment decision-making. Miller and Foley discuss how education can help insurers move beyond loss recovery toward risk prevention, why responsible AI adoption matters, and how continuous learning will be essential as strategic planning, risk management, and capital allocation evolve. Together, they offer a thoughtful perspective on where the industry is headed and how this partnership aims to support insurance professionals at every stage of their careers.

Episode 346: Gold's Enduring Tailwinds with Aakash Doshi

Mon, 29 Dec 2025 00:10:00 -0600

Aakash Doshi, Global Head of Gold for the SPDR ETF business at State Street Global Advisors, joins host Stewart Foley on the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast for an in-depth discussion on one of the most talked-about asset classes in recent years. The conversation explores the macroeconomic, geopolitical, and structural forces that have shaped gold markets since the post-pandemic period. Aakash shares his perspective on central bank demand, ETF flows, global debt levels, and the concept of gold as an alternative fiat hedge. He also explains why gold is often viewed as a left-tail asset and how it differs from other commodities and digital assets in institutional portfolios. The episode concludes with a practical discussion around implementation, including how institutional and insurance investors access gold exposure at scale and what risks could influence the outlook heading into 2026. This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute investment advice.

Episode 345: CLO BBs and Equity

Wed, 17 Dec 2025 00:16:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA is joined by Shiloh Bates, CFA, Partner and Chief Investment Officer of Flat Rock Global, for a deep dive into collateralized loan obligations and their role in insurance portfolios. Shiloh explains how CLOs function as structured credit vehicles, the problems they solve in the private credit market, and how different tranches offer distinct risk-return profiles for investors.

The conversation explores current market dynamics, including elevated default rates, spread behavior, and where Shiloh sees potential opportunities across CLO equity and junior debt. Shiloh also discusses underwriting discipline, diversification benefits, rated feeder structures, and how insurers can think about CLOs relative to direct loan exposure when constructing resilient, risk-aware portfolios.

Episode 344: Diversifying Within Structured Credit

Mon, 15 Dec 2025 00:26:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA sits down with Noelle “Elle” Sisco, Managing Director, Portfolio Manager, and Lead Portfolio Strategist at First Eagle Napier Park, to discuss where structured credit can offer real value for insurance investors and where caution is warranted. Elle shares her background across public and private credit markets and explains how First Eagle Napier Park approaches alternative credit within a multi-strategy investment framework. The conversation explores how insurers can evaluate structured credit through disciplined underwriting, with a focus on collateral analysis, liquidity management, and active portfolio positioning. Elle also addresses late-cycle dynamics, elevated idiosyncratic risk, emerging collateral types, and the importance of separating true underwriting skill from beta-driven returns when constructing resilient insurance portfolios.

Episode 343: Navigating Economic Currents: Shaping Insurance Investment Strategies

Fri, 12 Dec 2025 00:01:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Cindy Beaulieu, Chief Investment Officer of Conning North America, and Matt Reilly, Managing Director and Head of Insurance Solutions at Conning. Together, they explore the complex economic, policy, and portfolio construction themes shaping insurance investment strategies heading into 2026. With volatility receding and consumption staying strong, Conning sees cautious optimism grounded in fundamental, long-term portfolio planning. The discussion covers key topics including the rising complexity of insurance portfolios, the expanding role of private assets, and the importance of core fixed income as a risk ballast. Cindy and Matt offer insight into how insurers are balancing liquidity needs, capital requirements, and regulatory scrutiny while adapting to a structurally different rate and policy environment. With real-world examples and a thoughtful look at long-term strategy, this episode provides valuable perspective for insurance investors navigating today’s market challenges.

Episode 342: From “Known Unknowns” to Quantified Risks: Enhancing Portfolio Construction with Stress & Scenario Testing

Tue, 09 Dec 2025 00:11:00 -0600

Tobias Gummersbach, Enterprise Capital Strategist at New England Asset Management, joins the InsuranceAUM Podcast to discuss how insurers can apply stress and scenario testing to strengthen portfolio construction. With a focus on translating complex risks into clear, actionable insights, Tobias explains how these tools can help insurers evaluate exposure, guide asset allocation decisions, and support long-term capital planning. The conversation covers how insurers can move beyond traditional risk measures to better understand the potential impact of severe but plausible events. Tobias shares practical examples of how scenario testing is being used in real-world investment strategy, helping firms assess trade-offs between risk and return, improve communication with stakeholders, and better align portfolios with enterprise risk objectives. This episode provides valuable insights for insurance investment professionals navigating an increasingly complex risk environment.

Episode 341: Infrastructure Equity in Today’s Markets: Themes, Trends, Opportunities

Thu, 04 Dec 2025 00:02:00 -0600

Infrastructure equity is no longer just about toll roads and utilities—it’s becoming a core part of insurance portfolio strategy. In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, Gianluca Minella, Head of Research at InfraRed Capital Partners (a part of SLC Management), joins host Stewart Foley for a wide-ranging conversation on infrastructure’s growing relevance for insurers. Drawing on findings from SLC Management’s recent global insurance survey, Gianluca shares insights into how insurers are allocating across core, core-plus, and value-add strategies. The discussion covers inflation protection, regulatory treatment, digitalization, decarbonization, valuation discipline, and infrastructure’s role as both a defensive and growth-oriented asset class. Whether you’re focused on diversification, long-term returns, or navigating macro risks, this episode offers timely and practical insight into how infrastructure equity is being used by insurers to enhance portfolio resilience and performance.

Episode 340: Building Resilient Portfolios for Insurers: DoubleLine’s Long-History Insights on ABS and ABF

Mon, 01 Dec 2025 00:02:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM Podcast, DoubleLine’s Andrew Hsu and Fifi Wong share their insights on building resilient insurance portfolios through asset-backed securities (ABS) and asset-based finance (ABF). With more than a decade of experience in structured products and a track record of navigating shifting market conditions, they offer a detailed look at underwriting discipline, deal sourcing, and how their approach has helped avoid high-profile credit pitfalls like recent subprime auto bankruptcies. From the early days of FinTech-backed student loans to today’s more complex private ABF opportunities in sectors like aviation and energy infrastructure, this episode explores how DoubleLine evaluates new collateral types, maintains portfolio quality, and partners with insurance investors for long-term success. Hosted by Stewart Foley, this discussion is a must-listen for insurance asset managers, CIOs, and anyone interested in how structured credit strategies are evolving in today's uncertain environment. Listen now and subscribe to stay current on trends in insurance asset management.

Episode 339: Emerging Markets Debt - Investing in Stability Amongst an Ever-Changing Landscape

Mon, 24 Nov 2025 00:02:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley sits down with Siddharth Dahiya, Global Head of Emerging Market Debt at Aberdeen Investments, to unpack one of the most dynamic and evolving areas of institutional fixed income—emerging market debt (EMD). With decades of experience in global markets and deep roots in insurance investing, Siddharth provides a clear and comprehensive breakdown of the EMD universe—from hard currency sovereigns and corporates to local currency bonds and frontier markets. The discussion covers the structural advantages of EMD, including improving fundamentals, increasing credit rating upgrades, and attractive spreads versus similarly rated developed market debt. Siddharth also dives into how private credit within emerging markets is gaining traction with insurance portfolios, offering enhanced yields and structural protections. For insurance investors seeking diversification, real yield, and capital efficiency, this episode offers actionable insights into a sector that's once again demanding attention. Whether you're seeking a defensive allocation or exploring yield-enhancing strategies, Siddharth shares why now may be the right time to give EMD a second look.

Episode 338: Beyond the Bubble: Data Centers, Demand and the Rise of AI Infrastructure

Fri, 21 Nov 2025 00:01:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Alexey Teplukhin, Managing Director at Blue Owl Capital, to explore the often-overlooked but critical role of data centers and digital infrastructure in the global economy. Alexey offers expert insights into how these assets are enabling everything from everyday digital activity to the exponential rise of artificial intelligence. The conversation begins with the basics what a data center actually is and quickly dives into what makes them such a compelling, long-term real asset investment.

The discussion also covers how demand for data infrastructure is accelerating, what risks exist around technological disruption, and why Blue Owl focuses on the physical backbone of the digital world rather than trying to bet on the next software winner. With analogies ranging from toll roads to airports, this episode delivers a clear, engaging look at the intersection of AI, infrastructure, and investment strategy making it a must-listen for institutional investors navigating a rapidly evolving digital landscape.

Episode 337: Backstage with Ares: Private Credit, Platforms & People

Wed, 19 Nov 2025 00:12:00 -0600

In this episode, Stewart Foley welcomes Ryan Brauns of Ares US Direct Lending for a deep dive into the mechanics and momentum behind one of the industry’s most influential private credit platforms. Ryan explains how Ares has scaled its direct lending business, the role of underwriting discipline, and why duration alignment remains one of the most important considerations for insurers entering the asset class. The conversation explores everything from the structure of Ares’ capital pools to how leverage, covenants, and loan-to-value ratios fit into today’s market realities. Ryan also shares insights on spread dynamics, the rise of retail participation, and how insurers, large and small, are thinking about private credit in their strategic asset allocations. Whether you’re new to private credit or want a deeper look behind the scenes of one of the space’s leading managers, this episode offers valuable clarity and perspective for insurance investment professionals.

Episode 336: How Insurers Can Unlock Alpha Through Residential Whole Loans

Mon, 17 Nov 2025 00:55:00 -0600

Nancy Mueller Handal, Chief Investment Officer of Insurance Asset Management at Bayview Asset Management, shares her insights on how insurers can pursue alpha through residential loans and asset-based finance. With extensive experience in structured credit, Nancy explains why residential whole loans can be a strong fit for insurance portfolios when managed with discipline and precision. She discusses the capital efficiency of the asset class, the appeal of agency-eligible and non-QM loans, and the role of thoughtful underwriting in mitigating risk. The discussion also covers the evolution of the residential credit market, the importance of robust data and infrastructure, and the risks that come with layered credit and valuation gaps. Nancy outlines how Bayview’s platform approaches sourcing and portfolio construction at scale, and why residential loans can provide diversification and long-term value when approached with a careful, insurer-aligned strategy.

Episode 335: The Low Rate Environment Could Impact Products and Investment Portfolio Mix

Thu, 13 Nov 2025 06:53:11 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, Bob Huang, Executive Director of Equity Research for the Property & Casualty and Life Insurance Group at Morgan Stanley, sits down with Stewart Foley for a timely and insightful conversation on the implications of a declining interest rate environment. Drawing on one of the broadest insurance company coverages on Wall Street, Bob shares how rate cuts could influence earnings, asset allocations, product design, and underwriting dynamics across both life and P&C insurers. Bob explains why falling short-end rates may pressure floating-rate-heavy portfolios, how product offerings like fixed and indexed annuities could evolve in response, and why duration mismatches and spread compression are becoming top concerns. The discussion also highlights how the interplay between product structures and investment strategy is shifting, especially in an era of increased competition and regulatory complexity. Whether you're managing risk, building product, or allocating capital, this episode offers key takeaways for navigating volatility and staying ahead in a changing rate cycle.

Episode 334: Key Themes for 2025 – Affordability, Land-light Models, and Demographics

Thu, 06 Nov 2025 00:12:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, welcomes back Robert Clark, Chief Investment Officer and Founding Partner of Domain Real Estate Partners, for a timely discussion on the state of U.S. residential real estate. With affordability continuing to challenge buyers and mortgage rates remaining elevated, Bob offers a deep dive into how homebuilders are adapting their models in 2025, from navigating margin pressure and shifting demographics to embracing land-light strategies. The conversation explores the growing role of insurance capital in financing residential development and how institutional investors are responding to macroeconomic forces such as immigration policy and interest rate volatility. Bob also discusses how Domain partners with homebuilders to manage risk and unlock capital efficiency in an increasingly complex housing market. Whether you're focused on credit, real assets, or portfolio construction, this episode offers valuable perspective on the intersection of real estate fundamentals and investment opportunity in today’s market.

Episode 333: The Future of Infrastructure: AI, Innovation, & Insurance Portfolio Strategy

Tue, 04 Nov 2025 00:17:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Mansi Patel and Jeff Matthews of Principal Asset Management to explore how infrastructure debt is evolving—and how those changes are influencing insurance investment strategy. From AI-driven demand for data centers to the energy transition and shifting demographics, the conversation unpacks the current state and future outlook of infrastructure investing. Mansi and Jeff also explain key trends shaping the asset class: the rise of digital infrastructure, the role of power and natural gas in supporting AI growth, and the importance of geographic diversification. They provide insights into how insurance companies can access these opportunities through both SMAs and fund vehicles, while navigating regulatory and capital efficiency considerations. With decades of combined experience, the guests share their views on risk, essentiality, and how infrastructure investments have performed under stress. Whether you're new to the space or deep in portfolio construction, this episode offers timely insights into one of the fastest-growing segments of insurance investing.

Episode 332: Private Market's Death: Myths & Realities

Wed, 29 Oct 2025 00:09:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Mario Giannini, Executive Co-Chairman and longtime leader of Hamilton Lane, for a candid discussion on the evolving landscape of private markets. Giannini challenges the notion that private equity is “dead,” explaining why fundamentals remain resilient despite recent underperformance and how the long-term value proposition continues to attract institutional investors. The conversation explores key themes shaping portfolios today including secondaries, infrastructure, and the rise of private credit as well as how artificial intelligence is transforming the private markets ecosystem. Giannini also offers perspective on what insurance investors are asking, the importance of asset allocation over market timing, and how culture and discipline have driven Hamilton Lane’s enduring success.

Episode 331: Navigating the Future Macroeconomic Challenges and Commercial Real Estate Opportunities

Mon, 27 Oct 2025 00:03:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Erin Patterson, Global Co-head of Research and Strategy at Manulife Investment Management, to explore the intersection of macroeconomic uncertainty and commercial real estate opportunity. Erin shares how Manulife is navigating ongoing volatility, from interest rate shifts to global trade disruptions, and why a resilient, globally diversified strategy remains key for insurance investors. The conversation covers the "five Ds" shaping their investment lens demographics, deglobalization, decarbonization, digitalization, and democratization and how these trends are influencing everything from market selection to sector prioritization. Erin also dives into the evolving role of alternative real estate, the importance of demographic tracking, and how AI and infrastructure considerations are shaping CRE strategy. Whether you're focused on long-term income or adapting to short-term uncertainty, this episode offers valuable insights into institutional real estate allocation in today’s complex environment.

Episode 330: Are Private Credit Hyperscalers a Ticking Time Bomb?

Fri, 24 Oct 2025 00:25:00 -0500

Jeffrey Diehl, Managing Partner and Head of Investments at Adams Street Partners, joins the InsuranceAUM.com podcast to explore whether the rapid growth of private credit platforms, particularly BDCs and insurer-owned portfolios, is creating systemic risk or sustainable opportunity. In this candid conversation with host Stewart Foley, Diehl explains how deployment pressure, the rise of PIK loans, and reduced underwriting discipline could challenge returns in an overheated segment of the market. He also unpacks the scale of capital flowing through these platforms, the structural differences between perpetual BDCs and traditional private credit funds, and what red flags insurance investors should be monitoring. For anyone allocating to private credit, or evaluating manager selection, this episode offers timely, practical insight into how scaling may impact risk, performance, and long-term portfolio outcomes.

Episode 329: Lessons Learned from a Reformed Insurance CIO

Wed, 22 Oct 2025 00:54:00 -0500

Mark Rose, Insurance Solutions Specialist at T. Rowe Price and former Chief Investment Officer of Argo Group, joins Stewart Foley for a candid and insightful conversation on the InsuranceAUM.com podcast. With a background spanning equities, high yield, private credit, and more, Mark shares the lessons learned from over a decade managing insurance portfolios—including the importance of investment committee process, manager selection, and risk governance. He also discusses his transition from CIO to the asset management side, what drew him to T. Rowe Price, and how the firm is evolving its insurance solutions offering. For insurance investors navigating today’s evolving fixed income landscape, Mark’s perspective offers valuable takeaways on portfolio construction, private asset allocation, and building strong institutional relationships. Whether you’re in the CIO seat or partnering with insurers, this episode offers real-world insight from both sides of the table.

Episode 328: Beyond the Bank: The Insurance Approach to CRE Loans

Mon, 20 Oct 2025 00:13:00 -0500

David Politano, Managing Director and Head of Debt Strategies for MetLife Investment Management’s Real Estate group, brings more than 30 years of experience to the conversation as he joins the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast. In this episode, he explains how insurance companies’ approach to commercial real estate lending differs from traditional bank and CMBS channels - focusing on long-term, cradle-to-grave loan management with an emphasis on credit quality and relationship-based underwriting. David walks through the structural advantages of insurer-held CRE debt, performance comparisons post-COVID, and how real estate market dynamics, especially in the office sector, are evolving. He also provides perspectives on pricing trends, global opportunities like Mexico industrial, and what insurers should consider in today's competitive lending environment. Backed by deep institutional knowledge and a client-first investment philosophy, this episode offers valuable context for insurers navigating CRE debt in 2025 and beyond.

Episode 327: Opportunities and Benefits of Lower Middle Market Direct Lending

Thu, 16 Oct 2025 00:04:00 -0500

Tas Hasan, Managing Partner & COO, and Nelson Pereira, Director of Insurance Investor Partnerships at Deerpath Capital, share their perspective on the growing role of lower and middle market direct lending in insurance portfolios. With decades of experience and a long-standing focus on this segment, they explain why it's gaining traction among insurers seeking yield, diversification, and capital efficiency. They break down the structural advantages of sponsor-backed lending, including stronger covenants, conservative leverage, and more lender-friendly deal terms. The discussion also explores how regulatory developments, such as NAIC guidance and capital treatment, are influencing insurer allocation decisions. For insurance investors evaluating private credit strategies, this conversation offers valuable insight into manager selection, deal flow dynamics, and the key factors that set experienced lenders apart in today’s market.

Episode 326: Exploring IG Private Asset-Based Finance and Strategic Allocation in Health Insurance

Tue, 14 Oct 2025 00:03:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Frank Melaccio, CFA, CPA, FRM, Vice President, Finance and Treasurer at Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey, and Jason Young, Head of U.S. Corporate Private Placements and Private Structured Credit at MetLife Investment Management (MIM). The discussion explores the evolving role of investment-grade private credit and asset-based finance (ABF) in health insurance investment portfolios. Both guests share their career journeys, personal anecdotes, and their perspectives on strategic asset allocation within the unique cash flow structures of health insurers. Together, they dive into the diversification benefits, relative value opportunities, and liquidity considerations of IG private placements and ABF. Frank offers insights into how health insurers manage illiquidity risk while optimizing return on capital, and Jason sheds light on how the ABF market has matured with shorter durations and more investor interest. This episode is packed with expert perspectives on credit market dynamics, the future of private fixed income, and how health insurers can better position their portfolios in today's rapidly changing environment.

Episode 325: The Regulation Recap

Tue, 07 Oct 2025 00:03:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Carrie Mears, Chief Investment Specialist at the Iowa Department of Insurance and Financial Services. Carrie offers a rare regulatory perspective on how insurance investment oversight is evolving—touching on key topics like NAIC reforms, the restructuring of the Valuation of Securities Task Force, and the growing influence of private credit on insurer portfolios. The conversation dives into the challenges of transparency, capital treatment, and risk assessment in today’s complex investment landscape. Carrie also shares insights from her roles at both the NAIC and the IAIS, offering a global lens on regulatory frameworks and their implications for CIOs, portfolio managers, and other insurance investment professionals. It’s an informative, accessible episode filled with practical insights for anyone navigating the intersection of regulation and insurance asset management.

Episode 324: Ahead Of The Curve

Tue, 30 Sep 2025 00:33:00 -0500

Sam Kaplan, Rates and Securitized Portfolio Manager at Jennison Associates, returns to the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast to share his perspective on today’s evolving rates landscape. With the Fed cutting front-end rates while long-end yields remain elevated, Sam explores the forces reshaping the curve and what insurers need to know about duration, relative value, and term premium. In this conversation with host Stewart Foley, Sam outlines the implications of shifting monetary policy, labor market trends, and fiscal dynamics on fixed income portfolios. He highlights how insurers can evaluate opportunities across the curve, from three- to seven-year maturities to the longer end, and why relative value considerations are changing in ways many haven’t seen before. The discussion also touches on practical considerations for insurers - whether now is the right time to extend duration, what risks lie ahead if Fed independence is challenged, and how market participants are adapting to heightened uncertainty. For anyone navigating today’s fixed income environment, Sam provides timely insights and a framework for staying “ahead of the curve.”

Episode 323: Beyond Yield: Private Credit, PBR & the Need for Enhanced SAA

Fri, 26 Sep 2025 00:24:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Milliman’s Sam Nandi, Co-Lead of the Financial Risk Management Practice, and Anna Berezovskaya, Principal and Consulting Actuary in the Life Practice. Together, they explore how regulatory changes and the growing role of private credit are reshaping the way insurers approach strategic asset allocation. Sam and Anna share perspectives on balancing regulatory requirements, liability-aware investing, and enterprise value optimization in today’s complex insurance landscape. They highlight the nuances of principle-based reserving, liquidity governance, and the trade-offs insurers face as they incorporate private and alternative assets into their portfolios. From evolving regulations to liability-informed frameworks, this conversation offers a clear view of how insurers can adapt to new challenges while pursuing long-term value creation.

Episode 322: The Changing Landscape in Emerging Market Investing

Tue, 23 Sep 2025 00:23:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, welcomes Jennifer Taylor, Head of Emerging Market Debt and Senior Portfolio Manager at State Street Investment Management, for a timely and insightful discussion on the current state of EM debt. Jennifer shares her career journey from early roles in hedge funds to leading sovereign debt strategies, offering valuable perspective on how emerging markets have evolved—and why they continue to present compelling yet complex opportunities for institutional investors. The conversation explores why State Street Investment Management takes a beta-first approach to emerging market debt, emphasizing diversification across sovereign issuers and efficient benchmark exposure. Jennifer explains the differences between sovereign and corporate EM debt, discusses the role of U.S. policy as a dominant market driver, and shares how her team helps clients customize exposures based on unique constraints and objectives. This episode is essential listening for insurance investment professionals looking to better understand one of the most dynamic areas of global fixed income.

Episode 321: The Rise of Liability Management Exercises: The Changing Face of Restructurings with Oaktree’s Ross Rosenfelt

Thu, 18 Sep 2025 00:31:00 -0500

Ross Rosenfelt, Managing Director in the Global Opportunities group at Oaktree, joins the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast to unpack the rapid rise of liability management exercises (LMEs) and their impact on today’s credit markets. With over two decades of experience in restructuring—first as a bankruptcy attorney and now as an investor—Ross offers a grounded look at how LMEs are reshaping the way distressed companies and creditors interact. He and host Stewart Foley explore how restructuring has evolved, the legal mechanics behind LMEs, and what insurance investors should know about navigating this increasingly complex environment. From creditor cooperation agreements to underwriting challenges in a post-LME world, this episode delivers timely insights from one of the industry's most experienced voices.

Episode 320: Senior Loans: A Closer Look For Insurers

Tue, 16 Sep 2025 00:46:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, welcomes Kevin Egan, CPA, Managing Director, Senior Portfolio Manager, and Co-Head of Credit Research for Invesco’s Global Private Credit Team. Together, they take a deep dive into senior loans—an often misunderstood but increasingly relevant market for insurers. Kevin explains the fundamentals of the asset class, including the security and recovery profile of senior loans, their relative value compared to high yield, and how they’ve historically performed across market cycles. The conversation also explores current dynamics shaping the space: demand from CLOs, shifts in direct lending, and sector trends insurers should be paying attention to. Kevin shares Invesco’s outlook on where opportunities lie today, what risks are emerging, and how insurers can position themselves in a market environment defined by both resilience and competition. Whether you’re looking to better understand the mechanics of senior secured loans or gain insights into how they may fit within an insurance portfolio, this discussion offers practical takeaways from one of the leading voices in private credit.

Episode 319: Inside Real Estate: CRE Strategies for Insurance Investors

Thu, 11 Sep 2025 00:20:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Rich Hill, Global Head of Research and Strategy at Principal Real Estate, to explore today’s commercial real estate landscape and what it means for insurance investors. With over $25 trillion in value and 18 subsectors, CRE is far from monolithic. Rich explains how insurers should approach asset allocation with a four-quadrant strategy that includes public and private debt and equity. The conversation dives into how insurers are navigating private real estate debt opportunities amid valuation resets, the growing appeal of sectors like data centers and senior housing, and why CRE may be an under-appreciated source of long-term portfolio stability. Rich also unpacks the difference between core, core plus, value-add, and opportunistic strategies plus, the risks and rewards of each in today's market cycle. Whether you're rethinking your CRE allocation or evaluating long-term trends, this episode offers actionable insights tailored to insurance asset management.

Episode 318: The Evolving Role of Fixed Income in Insurance Investment Portfolios – Opportunities and Use-Cases in an Increasingly Multi-Asset World

Tue, 09 Sep 2025 01:02:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Jeff Miller, Co-Head of Fixed Income and Portfolio Manager, and Stephen “Fitz” Fitzsimmons, Executive Director of Insurance Solutions, both at Morgan Stanley Investment Management. The discussion centers on how insurers can navigate the evolving role of fixed income within multi-asset portfolios, with insights into ALM optimization, yield curve dynamics, and opportunities across public and private credit. Miller and Fitz highlight the impact of regulatory changes, the balance between transparency and complexity in fixed income markets, and how insurers can thoughtfully integrate alternatives alongside traditional allocations. Their perspectives provide insurance CIOs and investment leaders with actionable guidance for building resilient portfolios in today’s fast-changing environment.

Episode 317: Bringing a Portfolio Perspective to Improve Private Credit Outcomes

Mon, 25 Aug 2025 00:05:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Jon McKeown, Head of Portfolio Strategy and Analytics at Northleaf Capital Partners. Jon shares how Northleaf approaches portfolio construction in private credit by applying a risk- and analytics-driven lens, enabling investment teams to maintain strong relative value discipline and better navigate sector and geographic exposure. With over $30 billion in commitments, Northleaf brings a global, middle-market focus across private equity, infrastructure, and credit making their insights especially relevant to insurance asset managers. Jon outlines how his team supports investment decision-making across origination, underwriting, and portfolio monitoring. He also dives into NAV-based lending, European private credit opportunities, and how his team leverages a custom “composite risk” metric to assess return per unit of risk. Listeners will appreciate Jon’s perspectives on downside protection, portfolio design thinking, and how insurance investors can enhance outcomes through a strategic lens.

Episode 316: Investment Grade Securitized Market Update

Thu, 21 Aug 2025 00:31:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Dmitri Rabin, Rates and Securitized Portfolio Manager at Jennison Associates, for a deep dive into the current state of the investment-grade securitized markets. From the performance dynamics of agency MBS versus corporates to the shifting role of banks and foreign buyers, Dmitri offers a clear-eyed view of spread, convexity, and relative value through the lens of insurance portfolios.

The conversation also covers asset-backed securities, subprime auto credit risk, and policy considerations around GSE privatization. Dmitri shares sector-level insights into CLOs, CMBS, and non-agency RMBS, drawing attention to structural risks and supply-demand trends shaping investor positioning. The episode closes with a candid discussion about Jenison’s culture and Dmitri’s career reflections offering both technical insight and human perspective for insurance investment professionals navigating today’s credit markets.

Episode 315: Investment Risk: Ex-Ante Influence for Ex-Post Impact

Mon, 18 Aug 2025 00:05:00 -0500

Allysen Mattison, Director of Investment Risk and Vice Chair of the Investment Committee at Income Research & Management, joins the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast to deliver a deep dive into the art and science of fixed income risk management. Drawing on her experience overseeing a $122 billion portfolio, Allysen explains how her team approaches interest rate sensitivity, duration positioning, and risk decomposition to ensure that the risks taken align with high-conviction investment ideas. In the conversation with host Stewart Foley, Allysen unpacks complex topics such as tracking error models, the importance of aligning risk metrics with portfolio construction, and the nuanced role of downside risk analysis. She emphasizes the value of relative value assessment, systematic thinking, and cross-team collaboration, offering practical strategies for balancing active risk-taking with the protection of principal. From philosophical approaches to tactical frameworks, Allysen’s perspective provides a rare inside look at how one of the industry’s leading fixed-income managers evaluates, measures, and responds to risk. Whether you’re an investment professional, an insurance CIO, or simply a fixed income enthusiast, this episode offers a masterclass in managing risk for long-term performance.

Episode 314: Innovation in Asset Management

Thu, 14 Aug 2025 00:26:00 -0500

Anna Paglia, Executive Vice President and Chief Business Officer at State Street Investment Management, joins host Stewart Foley, CFA, for a wide-ranging discussion on innovation and disruption in asset management. She shares her unconventional career journey from international law to leading one of the industry’s largest investment platforms, offering a unique perspective on how evolving client needs, technological change, and strategic partnerships are reshaping the industry. Anna discusses State Street’s $5 trillion milestone, its rebrand, and initiatives designed to democratize access to both public and private markets, including the launch of a public–private credit ETF. The conversation covers insurer-specific solutions, the role of ETFs and cash management, the importance of team culture, and the next decade’s potential for convergence, tokenization, and blockchain in portfolio management. For asset managers, insurers, and institutional investors, this episode offers valuable takeaways on how to thrive in a rapidly changing financial landscape.

Episode 313: Real Asset Credit: Opportunities for Insurers in Real Estate and Infrastructure Debt Investing

Mon, 11 Aug 2025 00:44:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, welcomes Bryan Donahoe, Partner & Head of U.S. Real Estate Debt, and Brent Canada, Partner in the Infrastructure Debt Group at Ares Management, for a deep dive into the evolving role of real asset credit in insurance portfolios. They explore the benefits of infrastructure and real estate debt — from generating durable income streams to diversifying risk and matching long-term liabilities. The conversation covers how market dislocation, rising interest rates, and the pullback from traditional lenders are creating compelling opportunities for private credit investors, particularly in sectors like logistics, housing, utilities, and digital infrastructure. Bryan and Brent also share insights on Ares’ collaborative approach, their perspectives on market resilience, and why insurance capital is poised to play an increasingly important role in real asset lending.

Episode 312: Enhancing Insurance Portfolios Through Private and Alternative IG

Mon, 04 Aug 2025 00:45:00 -0500

Patrick O’Sullivan, PhD, Head of International Insurance Solutions at Barings, brings a global perspective to this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast. Drawing from his background in financial economics and extensive experience at leading asset management firms, Patrick explores how private and alternative investment-grade strategies can help insurers enhance returns, diversify portfolios, and address evolving liability needs. Hosted by Stewart Foley, CFA, this conversation dives into the appeal of structured credit, CLOs, and private placements for insurers navigating today’s market. Patrick shares insights on key considerations such as capital treatment, interest rate risk management, and the growing demand for private IG driven by demographic and regulatory shifts worldwide. For insurers looking to expand their toolkit and capture new opportunities, this episode offers practical insights and strategic takeaways.

Episode 310: Opportunities in Emerging Market Corporates with Fidelity's EM Debt Team

Mon, 28 Jul 2025 00:42:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Tim Gill, Portfolio Manager, and Juan Tavarez, Research Analyst, from Fidelity Investments’ High Income and Alternatives team to explore the evolving landscape of emerging market corporate debt. With decades of combined experience, Tim and Juan provide a deep dive into how they identify resilient, dollar-denominated credits in complex geographies—and why a bottom-up, credit-focused approach is essential in today’s environment. The conversation covers everything from navigating country-level macro risk and assessing restructurings, to uncovering “hidden castles” in misunderstood sectors. The duo emphasizes the value of sovereign overlays, disciplined portfolio construction, and the role of diversification in managing volatility for insurance investors. Whether you’re seeking long-term yield, capital-efficient allocation, or simply a better understanding of EM corporates, this episode offers highly actionable insights grounded in experience.

Episode 309: NAV Finance: Differentiated Capital Efficiencies for Insurers

Wed, 23 Jul 2025 00:45:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley welcomes Dane Graham, Managing Director at 17Capital, for an insightful conversation about the growth and evolution of NAV finance. Dane breaks down what NAV finance is, how it works, and why it’s increasingly being considered as a strategic tool for insurers looking to access liquidity while maintaining exposure to private assets. He shares how 17Capital has positioned itself in this space and how NAV-based lending has matured into a more accepted part of the capital stack. The conversation explores how NAV finance can complement an insurer’s investment toolkit—especially in today’s environment where flexibility and downside protection are crucial. Dane also discusses the growing demand from institutional investors, the risk considerations, and how insurers can assess whether this approach aligns with their long-term goals. Whether you’re new to NAV finance or looking to refine your understanding, this episode offers valuable insights into an innovative and expanding segment of private credit.

Episode 308: Real Estate Credit: Cutting Through the Noise

Mon, 21 Jul 2025 00:59:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, Stewart Foley sits down with Charlie Rose, Managing Director and Global Head of Debt at Invesco Real Estate, for a comprehensive conversation on the state of real estate credit markets and what insurers need to know right now. With nearly $10 billion in CRE debt AUM and a global mandate, Charlie shares insights on how Invesco is navigating a market still recovering from a historic value correction. He explains the fundamentals of bridge lending, the firm’s “credit over yield” approach, and how they integrate equity and credit insights to drive disciplined underwriting. Charlie also compares market dynamics in the U.S. and Europe, highlights where he sees relative value opportunities, and outlines what may lie ahead over the next 12–18 months. The episode closes with a thoughtful take on hiring, diversity, and the traits Invesco values in its team. It’s a high-level, yet grounded discussion for institutional investors exploring real estate credit today.

Episode 307: Growth Has Consequences: Direct Lending at Scale

Fri, 18 Jul 2025 00:46:00 -0500

Direct lending has grown at a staggering pace—more than tripling in just six years. But what are the consequences of that kind of scale? In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley welcomes Audie Apple, Head of Equity Capital Formation at Fidelity Direct Lending, to dive deep into the risks, innovations, and structural shifts shaping private credit today. Together, they unpack how loan documentation, leverage, and covenant structures have evolved in a rapidly expanding asset class. Audie offers valuable insight into pricing dynamics, sponsor versus non-sponsor deals, and how direct lenders are navigating today’s tighter spreads and changing risk profiles. If you're an institutional investor evaluating direct lending strategies, this conversation offers key takeaways—especially around the importance of current toolkit strength over historical track record. From PIK toggles to dispersion metrics, this episode brings clarity to the forces reshaping private credit.

Episode 306: The Death of Public Credit Has Been Highly Exaggerated

Wed, 16 Jul 2025 00:55:00 -0500

In an era dominated by private credit headlines, is public credit being unfairly overlooked? In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley sits down with John Sherman, lead portfolio manager at Polen Capital, to explore the often misunderstood world of public credit. With nearly two decades of experience, John brings a nuanced view of the high-yield landscape—unpacking how today’s market dynamics differ from the past and why public credit might offer better liquidity, lower fees, and fewer structural risks than private credit. From the shifting credit quality of high-yield indices to the limitations of passive investing in this space, this episode is packed with actionable insights for institutional allocators. You'll also hear why John views high-yield as a “Goldilocks” asset class and how Polen Capital partners with NEAM to bring their credit expertise to the insurance industry. Whether you're weighing your credit allocations or curious about the evolution of private markets, this conversation offers valuable perspective.

Episode 305: Executive Spotlight: Siddharth Chakravarty – Director of Investments at Coaction Specialty

Mon, 14 Jul 2025 00:31:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, welcomes Siddharth Chakravarty, Director of Investments at Coaction Specialty, for an in-depth executive spotlight. Sid shares his unique journey from engineering and neuroscience research to managing a multi-billion-dollar insurance portfolio, offering a distinctive lens on the future of insurance investing.

Together, they explore emerging opportunities in alternatives, with a focus on real asset infrastructure and secondaries, and examine the implications of regulatory developments, private credit benchmarking, and liquidity management. Sid also dives into the evolving role of AI in investment operations, the importance of data governance, and how small teams can gain scale through strategic automation. This thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation is a must-listen for insurance professionals seeking to build resilient, future-ready portfolios.

Episode 304: Current Asset-Based Private Credit Insights

Thu, 10 Jul 2025 00:58:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, welcomes Isaiah Toback, Partner and Deputy Co-CIO at Castlelake, for an in-depth conversation on asset-based private credit. Isaiah shares his journey from structured finance to Castlelake, offering unique insight into how the firm has built its strategy from the ground up as a pure-play asset-based investor. Together, they explore the structural shifts driving the growth of private credit, including regulatory changes, the rise of non-bank lenders, and the growing need for alternative funding sources. Isaiah breaks down how Castlelake approaches portfolio construction, risk management, and customization—particularly for insurance investors with specific liability and duration targets. This episode is a must-listen for insurance professionals looking to understand the future of asset-based finance and what makes this sector both complex and compelling.

Episode 303: The State of GP-Led Secondaries with Matt Jones, Co-Managing Partner of TPG GP Solutions

Mon, 07 Jul 2025 00:45:00 -0500

In this episode of the insuranceaum.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA sits down with Matt Jones, Co-Managing Partner of TPG’s North American and European secondaries business, to explore the evolution and growing significance of GP-led secondaries. With over two decades of experience in private markets, Matt brings deep expertise to a complex and rapidly expanding space. He breaks down how GP-led transactions emerged post-financial crisis, why they’ve become more attractive over time, and how they now serve as strategic tools for high-quality fund managers to retain and build value in their best-performing assets. The conversation covers key structural features of continuation vehicles, the risk-return advantages of single-asset secondaries, and what makes this market so compelling for investors today. Matt also explains how macroeconomic volatility is shaping pricing and deal flow, and what traits distinguish the most successful players entering this space. For institutional investors, asset managers, and anyone tracking private equity innovation, this discussion offers a practical and insightful look at one of the most dynamic segments in the alternatives landscape.

Episode 302: Executive Spotlight: Seth D. Rosenthal, CFA - Chief Investment Officer at Academy Asset Management

Wed, 25 Jun 2025 00:32:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Seth Rosenthal, CFA, Chief Investment Officer of Academy Asset Management. Seth shares insights from his transition from managing a $100 billion portfolio at Northern Trust to building a mission-driven investment firm focused on public fixed income and veteran employment. He discusses the origins and strategic direction of Academy Asset Management and its deep-rooted commitment to mentoring, hiring, and training military veterans. The conversation explores how Academy Asset Management leverages both Wall Street expertise and geostrategic insight from a team of over 30 retired admirals and generals to inform investment decisions—particularly in today’s volatile geopolitical environment. Seth also explains why Academy Asset Management is leaning into mortgage-backed securities (MBS), how prepayment risk is evolving, and what makes the Veteran Impact ETF (VETZ) a compelling option for insurance investors. From market strategy to team culture, Seth offers a unique perspective on leading with purpose in asset management—while delivering competitive performance. Whether you're an allocator, an insurance investor, or an advocate for veteran employment, this is an episode worth hearing.

Episode 301: Derivatives Applications in Investment Management

Mon, 23 Jun 2025 00:14:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Kamesh Chilukuri, Managing Director and Head of Derivatives at Symetra Investment Management, for a deep dive into the practical applications of derivatives in insurance investing. With experience that spans from Monte Carlo simulations at MIT to leading derivatives strategy at a major insurer, Kamesh brings a unique perspective on how these instruments can enhance portfolio construction and efficiency. The discussion spans both linear and nonlinear derivatives, their relevance to products like fixed and indexed annuities, and how insurers can use them to transform cash flows, hedge risk, and access markets more efficiently. Kamesh also offers insight into operational considerations, regulatory frameworks, and how derivatives can support relative value analysis across asset classes. Whether you're new to derivatives or looking to scale your strategy, this episode offers valuable guidance tailored to the insurance investment community.

Episode 300: Overlooked Opportunities: IG Emerging Markets Debt

Mon, 16 Jun 2025 00:51:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Mark Hughes and Kevin Ritter, CFA charterholders and Co-Heads of Emerging Market Debt at PPM America. Together, they explore the evolving opportunity in investment grade emerging market debt and its growing relevance for insurance general account portfolios. Drawing on decades of experience, Mark and Kevin address common misconceptions, highlight the risk-return profile of EM credit, and explain why the asset class may offer compelling value compared to traditional U.S. investment grade allocations. The conversation also delves into how insurers can think about portfolio integration, private vs. public EM debt, sovereign vs. corporate exposures, and how geopolitical shifts and trade policy are influencing asset allocation decisions. With practical insights tailored specifically for insurance investors, this episode provides a timely look at a segment of the market often misunderstood but increasingly important in today's global fixed income landscape.

Episode 299: Private Credit Secondaries: Unlocking Opportunities for Insurers

Wed, 04 Jun 2025 00:30:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Fred Pollock, Chief Investment Officer, and Steve McMillan, Head of Credit Research at GCM Grosvenor, for a timely discussion on private credit secondaries. As insurers continue to expand their allocations to private credit, Fred and Steve outline where secondaries fit into the broader $21 trillion private credit market and why they believe this corner of the asset class is poised for long-term growth. They discuss how liquidity, diversification, and discounted entry points can make secondaries particularly attractive especially in today’s uncertain macro environment. The conversation also highlights GCM Grosvenor’s differentiated approach, from deep underwriting discipline to leveraging its multi-asset platform for deal flow and risk evaluation. Fred and Steve explain why understanding the entire private credit landscape not just direct lending is essential for delivering alpha and managing downside risk. Whether you're an insurer evaluating secondary strategies or simply seeking market perspective, this episode offers insight into one of the most complex and compelling areas of institutional investing today.

Episode 298: Public and Private Asset-Backed Markets: A Symbiotic Relationship

Thu, 29 May 2025 06:05:41 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Connell Hasten of Victory Park Capital and Sukh Grewal of Janus Henderson for a deep dive into the evolving dynamics of public and private asset-backed markets. From their unique career paths to the strategic partnership between their firms, Connell and Sukh explore how collaboration across public and private markets is enhancing investment opportunities for insurance asset managers. Listeners will gain valuable insights into the symbiotic relationship between ETFs and private ABL investments, and how insurers are leveraging both to manage liquidity, diversify portfolios, and improve yield in today’s market. The discussion also tackles macro trends driving interest in asset-backed lending, emerging collateral types, and what characteristics these seasoned professionals look for in the next generation of investment talent. Whether you're rethinking your asset allocation or simply looking to stay ahead of industry shifts, this episode delivers actionable perspectives tailored for insurance investors.

Episode 297: CRE Debt: Insights, Trends & Capital Efficiency

Thu, 15 May 2025 00:45:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with David Lehman, Managing Director and Head of Real Estate Strategies at HPS Investment Partners, to explore commercial real estate (CRE) debt, market evolution, and capital efficiency. Lehman shares his unique career journey—from New Jersey diner waiter to state government leadership and now overseeing real estate at HPS—offering listeners a rare perspective on adaptability and leadership in finance. Together, they unpack how the CRE landscape has shifted, highlighting changes in the traditional “four food groups” of real estate and the emergence of sectors like data centers and senior housing. They also examine the long-term impact of higher interest rates, evolving bank and non-bank lending roles, and how insurers can gain capital efficiency through real estate debt investments. With historical insights, current trends, and a forward-looking view, this episode is a must-listen for insurance investment professionals navigating today’s CRE market.

Episode 296: AM Best’s Insurance Industry Outlooks and Potential Impact on Investment Risk

Mon, 12 May 2025 00:31:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Ken Johnson, CFA, CAIA, FRM, Senior Managing Director and Chief Ratings Officer at AM Best. Together, they unpack AM Best’s latest outlooks on the property & casualty and life insurance sectors—covering everything from macroeconomic uncertainty to the rise of private credit, offshore reinsurance, and how ratings methodology is adapting to today’s dynamic insurance investment landscape. Ken shares his take on the growing role of asset manager-owned insurers, the shift toward more complex ownership structures, and the increased reliance on less transparent asset classes. He also discusses AM Best’s internal working groups and how they aim to strike a balance between robust capital modeling and fair treatment for insurers with evolving portfolio strategies. Whether you're a CIO, portfolio manager, or regulator, this discussion sheds light on how risk, regulation, and ratings intersect in today’s market.

Episode 295: Opportunities in Public Markets: Finding Relative Value in Fixed Income

Wed, 07 May 2025 00:16:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Matt Brill, Head of North America Investment Grade Credit at Invesco. Together, they discuss a wide range of timely topics, including how insurers can navigate volatility in public markets, what relative value opportunities exist within investment grade credit, and how macroeconomic and political developments—particularly tariffs—are influencing fixed income strategies today. Matt shares his personal journey from the mail room to managing $100 billion in assets and offers deep insight into how Invesco approaches portfolio construction for insurance clients. He outlines current sector views, including opportunities in banks and utilities, concerns around energy credits, and why now may be the time to selectively take on risk. The conversation also covers credit quality trends, the evolution of core plus strategies, and the importance of timing and conviction in a market shaped by policy uncertainty. This episode offers a practical and insightful look into credit markets from one of the industry’s most respected voices.

Episode 294: Insurance and ABF – What’s All the Hype About?

Mon, 05 May 2025 00:12:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Keith Ashton and David Ells, CFA both Partners and Portfolio Managers in Alternative Credit at Ares Management—to explore the accelerating role of insurance capital in asset-based finance (ABF). With deep backgrounds inside insurance companies, Keith and David bring firsthand perspectives on how that experience shapes their approach to managing and structuring credit portfolios today. From defining ABF and highlighting its evolution, to offering practical lessons learned from decades in the field, this discussion is packed with valuable insights for insurance investors. They also delve into the analytics required for evaluating complex structured credit, the private vs. public market dynamics, and the rise of proprietary platforms. The conversation covers key market shifts, the growing appetite from insurers for private credit exposure, and the strategic allocation decisions insurance firms face. Whether you're new to ABF or a seasoned pro, this episode delivers real-world knowledge and forward-looking strategies from two of the industry's top voices.

Episode 293: Private Equity Secondaries: Optimizing Through Portfolio Construction

Tue, 29 Apr 2025 00:12:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Shane Feeney, Managing Director and Global Head of Secondaries at Northleaf Capital. They explore the growing importance of private equity secondaries, how portfolio construction can optimize outcomes, and why secondaries are gaining traction with institutional and insurance investors. The conversation covers the evolution of the secondaries market, risk management through diversification, and the dynamics of LP-led and GP-led transactions. Shane also shares insights into current supply-demand trends, what differentiates top-tier managers, and practical advice for insurance CIOs entering the space.

Episode 292: Private Markets Portfolio Construction for Insurers

Mon, 21 Apr 2025 00:56:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Toby True, Partner on the Investment Strategy and Risk Management Team at Adams Street Partners, about the complexities and evolving best practices in private market portfolio construction for insurers. Toby shares how Adams Street tailors investment strategies to align bottom-up decisions with the unique objectives, risk tolerance, and liquidity needs of insurance portfolios. The conversation explores how illiquidity impacts portfolio design, why data and historical patterns are increasingly valuable in modeling private market exposure, and what current market conditions—such as slowed distributions and resilient fundamentals—mean for capital deployment. Toby also offers insights on secondary markets, private credit underwriting, and key traits he looks for when building investment teams. It's a timely and insightful discussion for insurance investment professionals navigating today’s private market environment.

Episode 291: Fund Finance: Evolution, Insights, & Opportunities

Thu, 17 Apr 2025 00:32:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Shelley Morrison, Head of Fund Finance at Aberdeen Investments, about the growing relevance of fund finance in insurance portfolios. Shelley breaks down the fundamentals of subscription line loans, or “sublines,” and explains how these short-duration, investment-grade assets deliver enhanced yield without excess credit risk. She also outlines how fund finance fits into the broader private credit landscape and why it's gaining traction with insurers seeking diversification and downside protection. The conversation highlights Aberdeen Investments’ disciplined underwriting approach, relationship-driven sourcing, and ability to build custom portfolios tailored to insurer-specific needs. From managing sector exposures to navigating complex liability structures, Shelley offers practical insights into how insurers can integrate fund finance into their strategic allocation plans—especially as the market evolves in response to shifting capital demands.

Episode 290: An Update on the Residential Mortgage Market and Insurance Company Involvement

Wed, 09 Apr 2025 00:55:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Justin Mahoney, co-founder of Shelter Growth Capital, for an in-depth discussion on the residential mortgage loan (RML) market and its increasing relevance to insurance portfolios. Justin offers a data-driven look at the macro trends affecting the housing market, including supply shortages, disciplined credit underwriting, and the nuanced relationship between home price appreciation and affordability. He explains why RMLs are drawing growing interest from insurers, thanks to favorable capital treatment, risk-adjusted return potential, and access to Federal Home Loan Bank financing. The conversation also covers investment structure preferences—from direct investing to SMAs and pooled funds—and how each option fits into an insurer's broader allocation strategy. Justin shares where he sees the most compelling opportunities today, including non-QM loans, agency-eligible segments, and home equity extraction. Whether you're just beginning to explore the space or scaling an existing program, this episode offers valuable insights into how insurers can navigate and benefit from this dynamic and scalable asset class.

Episode 289: The Dividend Edge: Balancing Yield & Risk in Insurance Portfolios

Mon, 07 Apr 2025 00:32:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Michael Hunstad, Deputy CIO and CIO of Global Equities, and Jeff Sampson, Senior Portfolio Manager for Global Equities at Northern Trust Asset Management. They discuss the evolving landscape of dividend strategies, equity allocations, and risk-aware portfolio construction for insurers navigating today’s market complexity. From balancing income and capital appreciation to mitigating concentration risk and factoring in tax efficiency, Hunstad and Sampson share actionable insights tailored to insurance investors. With dividend-paying equities becoming more diversified and relevant in a normalized rate environment, this episode offers practical guidance for aligning public equity strategies with enterprise risk and return goals.

Episode 288: Executive Spotlight: Eric Partlan, CFA, CAIA, Chief Investment Officer at MassMutual

Tue, 01 Apr 2025 07:54:51 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Eric Partlan, Chief Investment Officer at MassMutual, for an engaging installment of the CIO Spotlight series. With MassMutual’s $285 billion general account and deep legacy as a mutual insurer, Eric shares insights into how the firm’s long-term orientation, mutual structure, and strategic partnerships drive its investment approach—particularly in private credit, structured products, and ALM strategies. Eric also reflects on his unique career journey from aerospace engineering to the CIO role, offering a candid look into his philosophy on leadership, team building, and fostering intellectual curiosity. From cultivating a collaborative team culture to leveraging Barings and other long-term partnerships, this episode delivers thoughtful perspectives on navigating evolving markets while remaining rooted in purpose-driven investment strategies. Whether you're new to insurance asset management or a seasoned pro, this is a must-listen conversation on where the industry is headed.

Episode 287: The Next 10 Years: Key Trends Influencing Insurers' Asset Allocation Decisions

Tue, 25 Mar 2025 00:47:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Anwiti Bahuguna, PhD, Chief Investment Officer of Global Asset Allocation at Northern Trust Asset Management. The conversation explores Northern Trust’s latest long-term capital market assumptions and the macroeconomic forces likely to shape insurer portfolios over the next decade—from AI-enabled productivity and energy transition to evolving patterns of globalization. Anwiti shares how her team blends quantitative modeling with insights from asset class specialists to create actionable 10-year outlooks for insurance investors. The discussion spans implications for fixed income and equity allocations, real assets as inflation hedges, and the growing relevance of private markets—particularly private credit. With practical insights on capital formation, macro themes, and manager selection, this episode offers a roadmap for insurance CIOs and investment teams navigating the complexities of a shifting global landscape.

Episode 286: Resident Expertise - Advice for Insurers Investing in Residential Mortgage Loans

Thu, 20 Mar 2025 00:25:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Dan Pallone, Managing Director of Global Loan Operations at SS&C Technologies, to discuss the latest trends in the residential mortgage market. With rising interest rates, limited housing supply, and increasing investor interest, how are insurers positioning themselves in this evolving landscape? Dan shares insights into the advantages of residential mortgage loans (RMLs) over traditional mortgage-backed securities, key operational considerations for insurers looking to scale in this asset class, and the impact of automation on mortgage investing. Tune in to learn how insurance investors can navigate the complexities of the Resi market and optimize their portfolios.

Episode 285: Plugging into the Energy Transition Opportunity

Mon, 17 Mar 2025 00:23:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Edward Levin, Managing Director and Co-Head of Direct Infrastructure at Voya Investment Management, to explore the evolving landscape of renewable energy finance. With over 20 years of experience in energy transition projects, Edward shares insights into how the sector has matured, the increasing demand for power driven by AI and manufacturing onshoring, and the evolving financing structures supporting renewable infrastructure. Edward also breaks down the impact of federal policies like the Inflation Reduction Act, the role of tax credits, and how bipartisan support continues to drive investment in renewable energy—even in traditionally fossil-fuel-heavy states. Whether you're an institutional investor, an energy market enthusiast, or just curious about the future of sustainable finance, this conversation offers a valuable look into one of the fastest-growing asset classes today.

Episode 284: Bonds, Benchmarks, and Beyond: An Insider's Perspective on Fixed Income Investing

Fri, 14 Mar 2025 00:20:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Christine Thorpe, Institutional Portfolio Manager at Fidelity Investments, to discuss the critical role of core fixed income in insurance portfolios. Despite being the largest allocation for most insurers, core fixed income often takes a backseat to higher-yielding asset classes. Christine shares insights on sector positioning, duration management, and Fidelity’s preference for rates over spreads in today’s evolving market. With Fidelity managing approximately $2 trillion in fixed income strategies, Christine also highlights the firm’s team-based investment culture and how it helps drive consistent performance. She discusses how insurers can navigate shifting economic conditions, the importance of patience and diversification, and why thoughtful risk management is essential for long-term success. Whether you’re deep in the fixed income space or looking to refine your approach, this episode is packed with valuable insights.

Episode 283: Leadership Excellence: Attracting and Retaining Top Talent in Insurance Asset Management

Wed, 12 Mar 2025 00:18:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Milena Humplik and Margot DeMore, co-founders of Broad Street, to discuss career management from both sides of the desk. They share insights into hiring trends in insurance asset management, the skill sets in demand, and how leadership plays a crucial role in talent retention. Milena and Margot also offer guidance on navigating career transitions, the evolving return-to-office landscape, and what makes a truly great leader in today’s industry. Whether you're an employer looking to build a strong team or a professional considering your next move, this episode delivers valuable takeaways. Tune in for expert perspectives on managing your career and team in the competitive world of insurance asset management.

Episode 282: Discovering New Opportunities For Yield And Safety In The Municipal Bond Market

Mon, 10 Mar 2025 00:13:00 -0500

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Jim Kaniclides, Head of U.S. Insurance, and Jeff Burger, CFA, Senior Portfolio Manager of Municipal Bonds at Insight Investment. Together, they discuss the evolving landscape of municipal bonds, offering insights into how insurers can balance yield, liquidity, and safety in today’s fixed-income markets. Jim and Jeff break down the shift from tax-exempt to taxable municipal bonds, their role in insurance portfolios, and the diversification benefits they provide compared to corporate bonds. They also highlight how municipals align with ESG and impact investing trends while maintaining historically low default rates. Tune in for an in-depth discussion on why municipal bonds remain a compelling asset class for insurers seeking quality and stability.

Episode 281: How Can BDCs Be Used to Optimize Direct Lending?

Thu, 06 Mar 2025 00:43:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Michael Occi, President of Morgan Stanley Private Credit’s BDC platform, to explore how insurance investors can leverage BDCs to gain deeper insights into the direct lending market. They discuss how BDCs provide transparency into asset quality, credit conditions, and portfolio performance, offering valuable data that insurance investors can use to assess risk and optimize their strategies. Michael explains the evolution of BDC structures, the growing role of non-traded BDCs, and how these vehicles fit into the broader private credit landscape. The conversation also covers the regulatory and structural differences between BDCs and traditional direct lending funds, highlighting key factors insurance companies should consider when allocating capital. Michael shares his perspective on the importance of transparency in investment decisions and how BDC disclosures can serve as a useful tool for both new and experienced investors. Beyond the financial insights, Michael and Stewart discuss career development in asset management, what qualities make a strong team member, and even a bit about Michael’s passion for golf. Whether you're an institutional investor looking to deepen your understanding of BDCs or simply interested in the intersection of private credit and insurance investing, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways.

Episode 280: The Right Way to Invest in Emerging Market Debt

Tue, 04 Mar 2025 00:08:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Vlad Liberzon, partner and portfolio manager at GoldenTree Asset Management, to discuss the evolving landscape of emerging market debt (EMD) and how insurers can approach the asset class strategically. With over 20 years of experience in EMD investing, Vlad shares insights into the asset class’s transformation, from its early days of high correlation and commodity reliance to today’s diverse and uncorrelated opportunities across 90 countries. He breaks down the factors driving EMD’s growth, the risks insurers often associate with the asset class, and why many may be overlooking key opportunities. The conversation delves into portfolio construction, exploring the benefits of a hard currency-focused approach, active management strategies, and the importance of risk discipline. Vlad also offers a market outlook for 2025, highlighting potential opportunities in sovereign and corporate debt, idiosyncratic investments, and the impact of macroeconomic themes like U.S. interest rates, dollar strength, and China exposure. Whether you're new to emerging market debt or looking to refine your investment strategy, this episode provides valuable perspectives on navigating this dynamic and growing asset class. Listen now to gain expert insights into the right way to invest in emerging market debt and how insurers can position their portfolios effectively.

Episode 279: Overview Of the Private Equity Market: Today’s Changing Landscape

Thu, 27 Feb 2025 00:42:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Champ Raju, Managing Partner and Head of Private Equity at PPM America Capital Partners, to discuss the evolving private equity landscape and the investment strategies gaining traction in today’s market. They explore the current fundraising environment, M&A activity, and the increasing role of co-investments and GP-led secondary deals in institutional portfolios. Champ explains how co-investments offer institutional investors, including insurance companies, an opportunity to reduce fees and gain direct exposure to private equity deals. He also breaks down single-asset GP-led secondary transactions, highlighting their benefits and why they are becoming a preferred investment structure. The conversation provides insights into how these strategies can enhance portfolio diversification, optimize capital deployment, and improve overall returns. With decades of experience in private equity, Champ shares his perspective on how investors can navigate these complex structures, assess risk, and take advantage of emerging opportunities. Whether you are an experienced private equity investor or looking to deepen your understanding of alternative investments, this episode offers valuable insights into the shifting dynamics of the private equity market.

Episode 278: Understanding Secondary Markets: A Conversation with Nate Walton of Ares

Mon, 24 Feb 2025 00:38:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Nate Walton, Partner and Head of Private Equity Secondaries at Ares Management, about the evolving role of secondaries in private markets. They discuss how GP-led transactions, liquidity solutions, and structured investments are transforming private equity. Nate shares insights on why secondaries are becoming a key strategy for institutional investors, how they provide downside protection, and what trends to watch in 2025. Whether you're looking to optimize your private equity allocations or better understand the secondary market, this episode offers valuable insights.

Episode 277: Breaking Down Evergreen Funds: Flexibility, Transparency, and Performance

Fri, 21 Feb 2025 00:36:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, welcomes Fabian Korzendorfer, Partner with StepStone’s Private Debt research team, for an in-depth discussion on Evergreen Funds: A Compelling Tool for Private Markets. Fabian joins from Switzerland to share his expertise on how evergreen funds provide flexibility, liquidity, and efficiency, making them an increasingly attractive option for both institutional and individual investors. Together, they explore the structural advantages of evergreen funds over traditional drawdown models, their impact on portfolio diversification, and why private debt is particularly well-suited for this investment vehicle. Stewart and Fabian also dive into how evergreen funds manage liquidity, their role in mitigating the J-curve effect, and their growing appeal to insurance investors navigating capital efficiency and regulatory considerations. Fabian offers insights into the operational and reporting benefits of these funds, along with career advice for finance professionals looking to navigate the evolving landscape of private markets. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that unpacks the rising prominence of evergreen funds and their potential to reshape private market investing.

Episode 276: Navigating the Evolution of Asset Finance and Opportunistic Credit with Centerbridge

Wed, 19 Feb 2025 00:04:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, welcomes Aaron Fink, Senior Managing Director at Centerbridge, to explore the evolution of asset finance and opportunistic credit. Aaron shares insights on how Centerbridge's cycle-agnostic approach allows them to dynamically allocate capital across private equity, credit, and real estate, ensuring they capitalize on opportunities regardless of market conditions. From his early career in asset finance trading to leading Centerbridge’s asset finance efforts, Aaron discusses the firm’s unique investment philosophy and its ability to pivot between public and private markets to generate returns. The conversation dives into key market trends for 2025, including opportunities in consumer credit, housing, and specialty finance, and how persistent high interest rates are shaping investment strategies. Aaron also provides a deep dive into the risks and rewards of private credit, the impact of market cycles on opportunistic investing, and the importance of adaptability in sourcing new asset classes. Whether you're an institutional investor or simply interested in how market dynamics influence asset allocation, this episode offers invaluable perspectives on the future of asset finance.

Episode 275: StepStone Insights: Demystifying Venture Capital for Insurance Portfolio Managers

Fri, 14 Feb 2025 00:37:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Anthony Giambrone and Stephen West, both Managing Directors on the Venture Capital and Growth team at StepStone, to explore an asset class that isn’t traditionally front and center for insurance portfolios: venture capital. They discuss why insurers may want to consider VC exposure, how the asset class has evolved over the years, and what strategies can help insurance investors navigate this space. With insurance investment portfolios becoming more diversified, Anthony and Stephen share insights on why venture capital has gained traction among institutional investors, how secondaries and emerging managers fit into the equation, and why consistency is key when allocating to VC. They also touch on the impact of AI, changing IPO dynamics, and the role of data in investment decision-making. Don’t miss this deep dive into an asset class that could reshape insurance investing.

Episode 274: Tips and Tools for Staying Current with NAIC Statutory Filings

Wed, 12 Feb 2025 00:12:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Barbara Arnold and Scott Kurland of SS&C Technologies to explore the latest developments in NAIC statutory reporting. With growing portfolio complexity and evolving regulatory requirements, insurers are facing increasing challenges in maintaining compliance while ensuring accuracy and efficiency in reporting. Barbara and Scott discuss the major trends shaping the industry, including the growing role of alternative investments, the shift to multi-manager models, and changes in asset classifications that impact reporting requirements. They also highlight the rising adoption of outsourcing and co-sourcing solutions, helping insurers streamline processes while maintaining compliance. As reporting deadlines tighten and staffing challenges persist, having a clear strategy for data integrity and workflow optimization is more critical than ever. This conversation provides expert insights and practical solutions for insurance investment professionals looking to navigate today’s complex NAIC reporting environment. From best practices in statutory reporting to strategies for staying ahead of regulatory changes, this episode offers valuable perspectives for insurers aiming to enhance their reporting processes. Listen now to gain a deeper understanding of how insurers can optimize their reporting workflows and ensure compliance in an increasingly demanding landscape.

Episode 273: Going back to First Principals in a Brave New World

Mon, 10 Feb 2025 00:10:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Michael Acton, Managing Director and Head of Research and Strategy at AEW, to explore the evolving landscape of commercial real estate investing. As the industry navigates a post-pandemic world, rising interest rates, and a wave of loan maturities, Acton shares insights on how investors can return to first principles to identify opportunities amid uncertainty. He discusses the hybrid nature of real estate as an asset class, its role in portfolio diversification, and the impact of economic shifts on valuations. Acton also provides a deep dive into key market trends, including the challenges facing office space, the resurgence of senior housing, and the opportunities arising from peak loan maturities. With a career spanning 35 years in real estate research and strategy, he offers a seasoned perspective on how investors—particularly insurance asset managers—can position themselves for success in today’s dynamic environment. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or new to the space, this episode delivers a valuable roadmap for navigating the complexities of commercial real estate.

Episode 272: The Art of Credit Underwriting: Lessons from OHA and Missouri Teachers

Wed, 05 Feb 2025 00:14:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Victor Debenedetti, principal at OHA, and Anthony Vikhter, senior investment analyst at Missouri Teachers, for an in-depth discussion on best practices in underwriting private credit. As private credit continues to expand, investors must understand the nuances of due diligence, risk assessment, and structuring deals to ensure long-term success. Victor and Anthony share their perspectives on credit monitoring, distressed situations, and the importance of aligning private credit strategies with institutional objectives. They also discuss how private credit differs from private equity and why this asset class has seen such significant growth. Whether you’re investing in private credit or looking to refine your approach, this episode offers key insights for insurance and pension investors alike.

Episode 271: Direct Lending Decoded: Macquarie's Strategic Approach to Middle Market Investing

Mon, 03 Feb 2025 00:20:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Brian Van Elslander, Head of MAM Direct Lending Portfolio Management, Americas, and Bill Eckmann, Head of Macquarie Principal Finance, Americas, to discuss the evolving landscape of direct lending. With private credit playing an increasingly significant role in institutional portfolios, Brian and Bill share insights on the growth of Macquarie’s direct lending platform, the firm’s approach to alignment and risk management, and key considerations for insurance investors exploring this asset class. They also examine current market dynamics, sector opportunities, and best practices for insurers looking to allocate to private credit. Whether you’re already investing in direct lending or evaluating its strategic fit, this conversation offers valuable perspectives on navigating the space.

Episode 270: Asset-Based Finance Public Versus Private, A Guide to Adult Swimming

Thu, 30 Jan 2025 00:52:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Alessandro Pagani, portfolio manager and head of the mortgage and structured finance team at Loomis Sayles, to explore the complexities of asset-based finance. They discuss the key differences between public and private ABS, the growing role of private credit, and how insurers should approach this evolving space. With rising interest rates and changing bank capital requirements, the demand for private asset-backed lending has surged—creating both opportunities and risks for investors. Alessandro shares his insights on liquidity considerations, risk assessment, and the importance of due diligence in this market. He also reflects on the evolution of asset-based finance since the late 1990s, highlighting lessons learned from past cycles and how investors can avoid common pitfalls. If you're looking to better understand the nuances of this asset class, this episode offers an in-depth discussion on navigating what truly is an "adult swim" in investing.

Episode 269: Asset-Based Finance (ABF): Building Resilient Portfolios for Insurers

Tue, 28 Jan 2025 00:30:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, explores the growing market of private structured credit, also known as private ABF, with Poorvi Dholakia and Paul Carroll of MetLife Investment Management. They discuss how this asset class stands out through customized structures, enhanced covenants, and attractive yield premiums, making it an increasingly valuable component of insurance portfolios. The conversation delves into the key factors driving the growth of private ABF since the 2008 financial crisis, the role of regulatory changes, and how scale and underwriting expertise create a competitive edge in this space. Risk considerations, such as credit, liquidity, and prepayment risk, are also examined, alongside the diversification benefits private ABF can bring to insurance investors. Whether you're seeking a foundational understanding or advanced insights into private ABF, this episode offers a detailed look at its evolving role in meeting insurers' long-term objectives in today’s dynamic investment landscape.

Episode 268: The Power of Patient Capital: Navigating Private Credit Through Market Cycles

Tue, 14 Jan 2025 00:09:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, Stewart Foley sits down with Michael King, Senior Managing Director and Co-Head of Senior Credit at Manulife Investment Management, to take a deep dive into the world of direct lending and sponsored finance. Michael shares his journey from carpentry to credit, discusses the unique dynamics of middle market private equity firms, and unpacks Manulife’s patient, deliberate approach to growing its private credit platform. Discover how Manulife’s focus on consistent underwriting, strong sponsor relationships, and market access has fueled success through various economic cycles, and hear Michael’s thoughts on private credit’s evolving landscape in 2025. From industry insights to advice for future professionals, this episode offers something for everyone in the insurance asset management space.

Episode 267: Real Estate Debt Markets: Finding Value in Market Dislocations

Thu, 09 Jan 2025 00:16:00 -0600

Join host Stewart Foley, CFA on the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast as we explore private real estate debt with experts Will Pattison, Head of Research and Strategy Real Estate, and Clint Culp, Regional Head of Real Estate Debt Production, both from MetLife Investment Management. Together, they provide valuable insights into current market dynamics, including shifts in commercial real estate lending, the impact of rising construction costs, and how migration trends are shaping the future of real estate investments. Gain an understanding of how MIM leverages decades of data to inform investment strategies and manage risk, while uncovering opportunities in today’s market environment. This episode is packed with practical takeaways for insurance investors navigating the evolving real estate landscape.

Episode 265: The Cyclical Nature of Real Estate Debt

Fri, 20 Dec 2024 00:56:00 -0600

Join host Stewart Foley, CFA, on the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast as he explores the dynamic world of commercial real estate debt with Jack Gay, Global Head of Commercial Real Estate Debt, and Jason Hernandez, Head of Real Estate Debt in the Americas at Nuveen Real Estate. In this engaging conversation, Jack and Jason share their unique perspectives on the evolving CRE debt market, highlighting areas of opportunity and caution in today’s economic landscape. From the surging demand for housing and logistics to the ongoing challenges in the office sector, they unpack the factors driving investment decisions and risk management strategies. The discussion delves into the importance of relative value across core, core-plus, and value-add strategies, emphasizing how investors can capitalize on current market conditions. Jack and Jason also provide a thoughtful analysis of the role insurance companies play in CRE lending, offering actionable insights for institutional investors looking to expand their allocations. Whether you’re navigating portfolio diversification or assessing the impact of macroeconomic trends, this episode delivers valuable takeaways for navigating today’s real estate environment.

Episode 264: The Future of Real Estate: Trends and Strategies with Maggie Coleman

Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:44:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley sits down with Maggie Coleman, Chief Investment Officer for North America Real Estate Equity at Manulife Investment Management, for a timely discussion on real estate investing. Maggie shares her insights on the current macroeconomic environment, the challenges and opportunities in today’s market, and the long-term trends shaping the real estate landscape. They dive into themes such as affordability, industrial growth, and the emerging sectors driven by demographic and technological shifts. Maggie also provides a candid perspective on office real estate, risk management strategies, and the importance of ESG considerations in portfolio construction. This conversation offers valuable insights for investors looking to navigate the complexities of real estate during a market reset.

Episode 263: Navigating the Economic Landscape: Tariffs, Productivity, and the Future of US Growth

Mon, 16 Dec 2024 00:09:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley sits down with Blerina Uruci, Chief US Economist in the Fixed Income Division of T. Rowe Price, for an in-depth conversation on the critical macroeconomic trends shaping the investment landscape. From the impact of US elections to the Fed's rate policy and the rising influence of productivity growth, Blerina offers expert perspectives on how these developments could influence investor sentiment and economic performance. With a unique global perspective, Blerina shares her take on trade policies, fiscal uncertainties, and the evolving role of inflation in a higher-for-longer interest rate environment. Don’t miss this engaging conversation packed with actionable insights for navigating the complexities of today’s economy.

Episode 262: Secondaries Offer Liquidity Opportunity for Well-Informed Investors With Competitive Edge

Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:34:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Jeff Akers, head of private equity secondaries at Adam Street Partners, to discuss the growing importance of private equity secondaries in insurance portfolios. Jeff shares his expertise on how this asset class helps investors avoid the J-curve, provides a shorter duration investment with predictable cash flows, and delivers fixed-income-like characteristics with equity-level upside. From the basics of private equity secondaries to their strategic fit for insurers prioritizing stable returns, this conversation dives deep into the advantages of investing in a market that has grown from $10 billion to $150 billion over the past 18 years. Learn why this undercapitalized market offers insurers opportunities for diversification, lower risk, and potentially enhanced portfolio performance.

Episode 261: The Future of Real Estate Debt: Uncovering Hidden Investment Opportunities

Wed, 11 Dec 2024 00:58:00 -0600

Join host Stewart Foley as he sits down with Doug Bouquard, Partner and Head of Real Estate Credit at TPG, to explore the evolving landscape of real estate debt. Doug shares his journey into the industry and highlights the current shifts in the market, including the retreat of banks from traditional lending and the growing role of private credit. He discusses how these changes create new opportunities for insurers to fill the gap and capitalize on asset-backed lending that aligns with their long-term liabilities. The conversation dives into key trends driving real estate credit, from dislocations in specific sectors like office to opportunities in housing and industrial properties. Doug explains how scalable strategies in real estate debt can be customized to meet insurers’ unique needs, offering attractive risk-adjusted returns and downside protection. With insights into market dynamics, borrower relationships, and the growing institutionalization of newer asset classes like build-to-rent, this episode delivers actionable perspectives for insurance investors.

Episode 260: Behind the Numbers: Insights from Quant Experts at Principal Asset Management, StepStone Group, and Fidelity Investments

Mon, 09 Dec 2024 00:53:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, our host Stewart Foley, CFA, dives into the fascinating world of quantitative methods in insurance asset management with experts from Principal Asset Management, StepStone Group, and Fidelity Investments. Together, they explore how data-driven strategies are transforming portfolio construction, risk assessment, and liquidity management in private markets. From understanding how quants develop models to navigating the unique challenges of private markets, this episode delivers actionable insights for institutional investors. Learn how quantitative approaches help identify opportunities, mitigate risks, and drive smarter investment decisions. Whether you’re curious about how quants build tailored solutions or the latest trends in private real estate and equity, this conversation is packed with expert perspectives and practical knowledge for today’s insurance asset managers.

Episode 259: Demystifying Real Estate Credit

Wed, 04 Dec 2024 00:56:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley welcomes Nailah Flake, Managing Partner and Head of Real Estate Debt at Brookfield. Nailah shares her unique career journey, from teaching dance to leading real estate credit at one of the largest asset managers globally. Together, they discuss the vast and diverse real estate market, touching on compelling sectors like industrial, housing, and alternative asset classes. Nailah provides insights into the mechanics of real estate credit, its differences from corporate credit, and the evolving landscape amid rising interest rates, market volatility, and bank retrenchment. She also highlights Brookfield’s approach to lending, leveraging its extensive expertise and global footprint. In addition to offering a masterclass on real estate debt, Nailah shares career advice for young professionals, emphasizing adaptability and resilience in navigating a changing industry. Tune in for an inspiring conversation filled with actionable insights.

Episode 258: Fixed Income Deep Dive: Understanding Private Placement Investments

Mon, 02 Dec 2024 00:43:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley welcomes Nelson Correa, Head of Private Placements at NEAM. Nelson discusses what makes private placements an attractive asset class for insurers, offering higher spreads than public bonds while maintaining strong covenant protections. He addresses liquidity misconceptions, explains how private placements are structured, and highlights their role in helping insurers achieve long-term investment goals. Nelson also shares insights into NEAM’s enhanced private placement capabilities following his team’s addition and provides a market outlook, identifying opportunities in infrastructure and family-owned companies. Tune in to learn how private placements can offer insurers a compelling mix of yield, security, and diversification.

Episode 257: High Yield Real Estate Lending: Navigating the Shifting Landscape

Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:33:00 -0600

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley sits down with Bill Maclay, CFA, portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, to explore the evolving landscape of high-yield real estate lending. With banks pulling back and a significant volume of commercial real estate debt maturing over the next three years, Bill shares how private lenders are stepping up to fill the gap. He provides an in-depth look at Fidelity's real estate platform, their approach to navigating current market challenges, and the opportunities for investors in middle-market lending. From bridge loans to construction financing and gap funding, Bill explains how Fidelity has positioned itself to address a supply-demand imbalance in commercial real estate debt. This episode offers valuable insights into the dynamics of property types, regional bank exposure, and the role of private capital in shaping the future of high-yield real estate lending.

Episode 256: Best Practices for Portfolio Construction in Private Assets

Tue, 19 Nov 2024 00:30:00 -0600

Join host Stewart Foley on the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast as we dive into the intricacies of private asset portfolio construction with insights from Bryan Jenkins and Eric Solfisburg of Hamilton Lane. This episode explores how a strategic approach to portfolio construction—focusing on factors like asset allocation, investment pacing, and liquidity management—can enhance outcomes for insurance investors. With over three decades in private markets, Hamilton Lane shares its expertise on balancing return and risk while managing the challenges of data and transparency that are unique to this asset class. The conversation also covers the vital considerations around data and analytics, industry exposure, and the often-overlooked factor of asset location for insurers. Jenkins and Solfisburg emphasize the importance of a consistent, disciplined approach to private asset allocation, discussing tools and techniques Hamilton Lane uses to support sophisticated portfolio strategies. For insurers navigating private markets, this episode offers a valuable guide to constructing resilient, well-diversified portfolios that align with insurance-specific risk management needs.