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    <title>Above &amp; Below</title>
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    <description>Above and Below is the official podcast of the Construction Industry Alliance for Suicide Prevention (CIASP). Hosted by Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik, this series explores mental health in construction from every angle—what’s working, what’s not, and what needs to change. With honest conversations, expert insights, and real stories from the field, Above and Below brings awareness to the challenges the industry faces—and the people driving meaningful change.</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 00:01:00 -0300</pubDate>
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    <category>Health &amp; Fitness:Mental Health</category>
    <ttl>1440</ttl>
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        <title>Episode 27: The Power of Speaking Up: Fred Mills on Mental Health and the Future of Construction</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 27: The Power of Speaking Up: Fred Mills on Mental Health and the Future of Construction</itunes:title>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik are joined by Fred Mills, founder of The B1M, the world’s largest video platform for construction, reaching millions of people each month.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Fred shares how he built a global media brand to change the perception of construction—and what led him to use that platform to speak openly about his own mental health journey. Behind the success, Fred opens up about his experience with depression, the pressure of leadership, and the turning point that led him to seek help and ultimately help others.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">The conversation explores the growing movement around mental health in construction, the importance of authenticity in leadership, and why the industry must move beyond awareness and into action. From jobsite culture to global impact, this episode highlights how real change happens when people are willing to speak up.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2">With millions reached through his work and hundreds of thousands raised for mental health initiatives, Fred’s message is clear: we are only just getting started.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, host Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik are joined by Fred Mills, founder of The B1M, the world’s largest video platform for construction, reaching millions of people each month.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Fred shares how he built a global media brand to change the perception of construction—and what led him to use that platform to speak openly about his own mental health journey. Behind the success, Fred opens up about his experience with depression, the pressure of leadership, and the turning point that led him to seek help and ultimately help others.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">The conversation explores the growing movement around mental health in construction, the importance of authenticity in leadership, and why the industry must move beyond awareness and into action. From jobsite culture to global impact, this episode highlights how real change happens when people are willing to speak up.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2">With millions reached through his work and hundreds of thousands raised for mental health initiatives, Fred’s message is clear: we are only just getting started.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik are joined by Fred Mills, founder of The B1M, the world’s largest video platform for construction, reaching millions of people each month.
 
Fred shares how he built a global media brand to change the perception of construction—and what led him to use that platform to speak openly about his own mental health journey. Behind the success, Fred opens up about his experience with depression, the pressure of leadership, and the turning point that led him to seek help and ultimately help others.
 
The conversation explores the growing movement around mental health in construction, the importance of authenticity in leadership, and why the industry must move beyond awareness and into action. From jobsite culture to global impact, this episode highlights how real change happens when people are willing to speak up.
 
With millions reached through his work and hundreds of thousands raised for mental health initiatives, Fred’s message is clear: we are only just getting started.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>Episode 26:     A Decade of Progress: Building a Movement in Construction Mental Health with Stuart Binstock</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 26:     A Decade of Progress: Building a Movement in Construction Mental Health with Stuart Binstock</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-26-a-decade-of-progress-building-a-movement-in-construction-mental-health-with-stuart-binstock/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-26-a-decade-of-progress-building-a-movement-in-construction-mental-health-with-stuart-binstock/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2026 00:06:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik are joined by Stuart Binstock, former CEO of CFMA and one of the early leaders behind the Construction Industry Alliance for Suicide Prevention.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Stuart shares how a single article in 2015 sparked a powerful industry-wide response, leading to the creation of CIASP and a movement that continues to grow today. Together, they reflect on how far the industry has come, the challenges that remain, and why communication and connection are at the heart of meaningful change.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">The conversation also dives into real-world topics shaping today’s job sites, including the importance of Narcan training, the role of Employee Assistance Programs, and the ongoing shift from transactional leadership to a more human-centered approach.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2">This episode is both a look back and a call forward—reminding us that safety is not just physical, and that investing in people is the most important work we can do.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, host Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik are joined by Stuart Binstock, former CEO of CFMA and one of the early leaders behind the Construction Industry Alliance for Suicide Prevention.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Stuart shares how a single article in 2015 sparked a powerful industry-wide response, leading to the creation of CIASP and a movement that continues to grow today. Together, they reflect on how far the industry has come, the challenges that remain, and why communication and connection are at the heart of meaningful change.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">The conversation also dives into real-world topics shaping today’s job sites, including the importance of Narcan training, the role of Employee Assistance Programs, and the ongoing shift from transactional leadership to a more human-centered approach.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p2">This episode is both a look back and a call forward—reminding us that safety is not just physical, and that investing in people is the most important work we can do.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik are joined by Stuart Binstock, former CEO of CFMA and one of the early leaders behind the Construction Industry Alliance for Suicide Prevention.
 
Stuart shares how a single article in 2015 sparked a powerful industry-wide response, leading to the creation of CIASP and a movement that continues to grow today. Together, they reflect on how far the industry has come, the challenges that remain, and why communication and connection are at the heart of meaningful change.
 
The conversation also dives into real-world topics shaping today’s job sites, including the importance of Narcan training, the role of Employee Assistance Programs, and the ongoing shift from transactional leadership to a more human-centered approach.
 
This episode is both a look back and a call forward—reminding us that safety is not just physical, and that investing in people is the most important work we can do.]]></itunes:summary>
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                <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
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        <title>Episode 25: The Pod-aversary: One Year of Conversations That Matter</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 25: The Pod-aversary: One Year of Conversations That Matter</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-25-the-pod-aversary-one-year-of-conversations-that-matter/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-25-the-pod-aversary-one-year-of-conversations-that-matter/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 13:06:10 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this special anniversary episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik reflect on the first year of the podcast and the conversations that have shaped it. From powerful guest stories to unexpected moments of connection, they revisit the episodes that made them laugh, challenged their thinking, and, at times, left them deeply emotional. They also share what has surprised them most, what has been hardest, and why these conversations matter now more than ever. This episode is a reminder that behind every statistic is a person, and behind every story is an opportunity to connect, support, and make a difference. As the podcast looks ahead to the future, one thing is clear: these conversations are only just beginning.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this special anniversary episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik reflect on the first year of the podcast and the conversations that have shaped it. From powerful guest stories to unexpected moments of connection, they revisit the episodes that made them laugh, challenged their thinking, and, at times, left them deeply emotional. They also share what has surprised them most, what has been hardest, and why these conversations matter now more than ever. This episode is a reminder that behind every statistic is a person, and behind every story is an opportunity to connect, support, and make a difference. As the podcast looks ahead to the future, one thing is clear: these conversations are only just beginning.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this special anniversary episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik reflect on the first year of the podcast and the conversations that have shaped it. From powerful guest stories to unexpected moments of connection, they revisit the episodes that made them laugh, challenged their thinking, and, at times, left them deeply emotional. They also share what has surprised them most, what has been hardest, and why these conversations matter now more than ever. This episode is a reminder that behind every statistic is a person, and behind every story is an opportunity to connect, support, and make a difference. As the podcast looks ahead to the future, one thing is clear: these conversations are only just beginning.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
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        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
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        <title>Episode 24: Women in Construction and the Power of Speaking Out with Julia Flanagan</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 24: Women in Construction and the Power of Speaking Out with Julia Flanagan</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-24-women-in-construction-and-the-power-of-speaking-out-with-julia-flanagan/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-24-women-in-construction-and-the-power-of-speaking-out-with-julia-flanagan/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2026 00:28:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann sits down with Julia Flanagan, a surveyor working in heavy construction.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Julia shares how she found her way into the construction industry, what it’s really like working in the field on major infrastructure projects, and why she believes it’s important to speak openly about the challenges people face in this industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">From growing up around construction to building a career on jobsites across major projects, Julia talks about the path that led her to surveying and what a typical day in the field looks like. She also discusses the importance of visibility, honesty, and sharing personal experiences so others know they are not alone.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This conversation explores career paths in construction, the realities of jobsite culture, and why open conversations about mental health matter across the entire industry.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann sits down with Julia Flanagan, a surveyor working in heavy construction.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Julia shares how she found her way into the construction industry, what it’s really like working in the field on major infrastructure projects, and why she believes it’s important to speak openly about the challenges people face in this industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">From growing up around construction to building a career on jobsites across major projects, Julia talks about the path that led her to surveying and what a typical day in the field looks like. She also discusses the importance of visibility, honesty, and sharing personal experiences so others know they are not alone.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This conversation explores career paths in construction, the realities of jobsite culture, and why open conversations about mental health matter across the entire industry.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann sits down with Julia Flanagan, a surveyor working in heavy construction.
 
Julia shares how she found her way into the construction industry, what it’s really like working in the field on major infrastructure projects, and why she believes it’s important to speak openly about the challenges people face in this industry.
 
From growing up around construction to building a career on jobsites across major projects, Julia talks about the path that led her to surveying and what a typical day in the field looks like. She also discusses the importance of visibility, honesty, and sharing personal experiences so others know they are not alone.
 
This conversation explores career paths in construction, the realities of jobsite culture, and why open conversations about mental health matter across the entire industry.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
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                <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
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        <title>Episode 23: Women in the Trades: Grit, Safety, and Showing Up with Chelsea Fenton</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 23: Women in the Trades: Grit, Safety, and Showing Up with Chelsea Fenton</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-23-women-in-the-trades-grit-safety-and-showing-up-with-chelsea-fenton/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-23-women-in-the-trades-grit-safety-and-showing-up-with-chelsea-fenton/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 00:48:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann sits down with Chelsea Fenton, a union laborer with LIUNA Local 596 out of Holyoke, Massachusetts, known online as That Union Laborer.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Chelsea shares her path into the trades, including being turned down twice before earning her spot on the third attempt, and what 14 years in the field has taught her about perseverance, work ethic, and building a name you are proud of. The conversation also goes deeper into the realities women face on job sites, including safety concerns, allyship, workplace facilities, pregnancy and postpartum challenges, and the practical protections employers are required to provide.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Chelsea also explains how she became a social media voice for union labor, using TikTok and Instagram to recruit and support more women into the trades, and why she wants her daughter’s job sites to look different in the future.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann sits down with Chelsea Fenton, a union laborer with LIUNA Local 596 out of Holyoke, Massachusetts, known online as That Union Laborer.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Chelsea shares her path into the trades, including being turned down twice before earning her spot on the third attempt, and what 14 years in the field has taught her about perseverance, work ethic, and building a name you are proud of. The conversation also goes deeper into the realities women face on job sites, including safety concerns, allyship, workplace facilities, pregnancy and postpartum challenges, and the practical protections employers are required to provide.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Chelsea also explains how she became a social media voice for union labor, using TikTok and Instagram to recruit and support more women into the trades, and why she wants her daughter’s job sites to look different in the future.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann sits down with Chelsea Fenton, a union laborer with LIUNA Local 596 out of Holyoke, Massachusetts, known online as That Union Laborer.
 
Chelsea shares her path into the trades, including being turned down twice before earning her spot on the third attempt, and what 14 years in the field has taught her about perseverance, work ethic, and building a name you are proud of. The conversation also goes deeper into the realities women face on job sites, including safety concerns, allyship, workplace facilities, pregnancy and postpartum challenges, and the practical protections employers are required to provide.
 
Chelsea also explains how she became a social media voice for union labor, using TikTok and Instagram to recruit and support more women into the trades, and why she wants her daughter’s job sites to look different in the future.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>1689</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
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        <title>Episode 22: Building with Passion – Jared Bartholomew’s Journey into Masonry</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 22: Building with Passion – Jared Bartholomew’s Journey into Masonry</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-22-building-with-passion-%e2%80%93-jared-bartholomew-s-journey-into-masonry/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-22-building-with-passion-%e2%80%93-jared-bartholomew-s-journey-into-masonry/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 00:24:00 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of Above &amp; Below, host Sonya Bohmann sits down with Jared Bartholomew, a 20-year-old senior at Williamson College of the Trades, who shares how a high school twist of fate led him to discover his true passion: masonry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Jared opens up about life at Williamson, where discipline, structure, and service shape every student’s journey. From working co-op jobs to competing in SkillsUSA and bricklaying competitions, Jared’s story highlights the power of purpose, pride in craft, and how finding the right path can change your life.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re a student, parent, or part of the construction industry, this episode is a reminder that passion and purpose can be found in unexpected places.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of <em>Above &amp; Below</em>, host Sonya Bohmann sits down with Jared Bartholomew, a 20-year-old senior at Williamson College of the Trades, who shares how a high school twist of fate led him to discover his true passion: masonry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Jared opens up about life at Williamson, where discipline, structure, and service shape every student’s journey. From working co-op jobs to competing in SkillsUSA and bricklaying competitions, Jared’s story highlights the power of purpose, pride in craft, and how finding the right path can change your life.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re a student, parent, or part of the construction industry, this episode is a reminder that passion and purpose can be found in unexpected places.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Above &amp; Below, host Sonya Bohmann sits down with Jared Bartholomew, a 20-year-old senior at Williamson College of the Trades, who shares how a high school twist of fate led him to discover his true passion: masonry.
 
Jared opens up about life at Williamson, where discipline, structure, and service shape every student’s journey. From working co-op jobs to competing in SkillsUSA and bricklaying competitions, Jared’s story highlights the power of purpose, pride in craft, and how finding the right path can change your life.
 
Whether you’re a student, parent, or part of the construction industry, this episode is a reminder that passion and purpose can be found in unexpected places.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>1790</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
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        <title>Episode 21: Leading from the Front: A Conversation on Servant Leadership with Greg Sizemore</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 21: Leading from the Front: A Conversation on Servant Leadership with Greg Sizemore</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-21-leading-from-the-front-a-conversation-on-servant-leadership-with-greg-sizemore/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-21-leading-from-the-front-a-conversation-on-servant-leadership-with-greg-sizemore/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 00:01:00 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">What does it really mean to lead by serving others? In this episode, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with Greg Sizemore, Vice President of Health, Safety, Environment, and Workforce Development at Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC), to explore the core principles of servant leadership in the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Greg shares insights from his decades of experience, discussing the importance of culture, mentorship, and genuine care in leadership. This episode offers a compelling look at how humility and service can strengthen safety, mental health, and retention across the workforce.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">What does it really mean to lead by serving others? In this episode, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with Greg Sizemore, Vice President of Health, Safety, Environment, and Workforce Development at Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC), to explore the core principles of servant leadership in the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Greg shares insights from his decades of experience, discussing the importance of culture, mentorship, and genuine care in leadership. This episode offers a compelling look at how humility and service can strengthen safety, mental health, and retention across the workforce.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[What does it really mean to lead by serving others? In this episode, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with Greg Sizemore, Vice President of Health, Safety, Environment, and Workforce Development at Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC), to explore the core principles of servant leadership in the construction industry.
 
Greg shares insights from his decades of experience, discussing the importance of culture, mentorship, and genuine care in leadership. This episode offers a compelling look at how humility and service can strengthen safety, mental health, and retention across the workforce.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>1976</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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    <item>
        <title>Episode 20: Leading with Purpose: Meet CIASP Chair Kristy Domboski</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 20: Leading with Purpose: Meet CIASP Chair Kristy Domboski</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-20-leading-with-purpose-meet-ciasp-chair-kristy-domboski/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-20-leading-with-purpose-meet-ciasp-chair-kristy-domboski/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2026 00:01:00 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of Above &amp; Below, host Sonya Bohmann sits down with Kristy Domboski, the newly appointed Chair of the CIASP Board of Trustees, for a candid conversation about what’s next for the organization.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Kristy reflects on CIASP’s evolution—from its early ties to CFMA to becoming a 501(c)(3)—and shares why this work is so personal to her. With a two-year term ahead, she outlines her vision for CIASP’s future, including expanding resources, increasing industry collaboration, and continuing to push toward a Zero Suicide Industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Plus, Sonya turns the spotlight on Kristy with a few rapid-fire personal questions to help listeners get to know the leader behind the title.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re new to CIASP or deeply involved in construction safety, this episode offers a meaningful look at where we’re headed—and who’s helping lead the way.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of <em>Above &amp; Below</em>, host Sonya Bohmann sits down with Kristy Domboski, the newly appointed Chair of the CIASP Board of Trustees, for a candid conversation about what’s next for the organization.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Kristy reflects on CIASP’s evolution—from its early ties to CFMA to becoming a 501(c)(3)—and shares why this work is so personal to her. With a two-year term ahead, she outlines her vision for CIASP’s future, including expanding resources, increasing industry collaboration, and continuing to push toward a Zero Suicide Industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Plus, Sonya turns the spotlight on Kristy with a few rapid-fire personal questions to help listeners get to know the leader behind the title.</p>
<p class="p1"> </p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re new to CIASP or deeply involved in construction safety, this episode offers a meaningful look at where we’re headed—and who’s helping lead the way.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Above &amp; Below, host Sonya Bohmann sits down with Kristy Domboski, the newly appointed Chair of the CIASP Board of Trustees, for a candid conversation about what’s next for the organization.
 
Kristy reflects on CIASP’s evolution—from its early ties to CFMA to becoming a 501(c)(3)—and shares why this work is so personal to her. With a two-year term ahead, she outlines her vision for CIASP’s future, including expanding resources, increasing industry collaboration, and continuing to push toward a Zero Suicide Industry.
 
Plus, Sonya turns the spotlight on Kristy with a few rapid-fire personal questions to help listeners get to know the leader behind the title.
 
Whether you’re new to CIASP or deeply involved in construction safety, this episode offers a meaningful look at where we’re headed—and who’s helping lead the way.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>1221</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 19: Pause. Reflect. Lead. Mindfulness as a Safety Tool with Vikram Kapur</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 19: Pause. Reflect. Lead. Mindfulness as a Safety Tool with Vikram Kapur</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-19-pause-reflect-lead-mindfulness-as-a-safety-tool-with-vikram-kapur/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-19-pause-reflect-lead-mindfulness-as-a-safety-tool-with-vikram-kapur/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2026 00:23:00 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In Episode 19 of Above and Below, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with Vikram Kapur for a thoughtful conversation on mindfulness and safety in the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Vikram shares why mindfulness isn’t about meditation — it’s about awareness, presence, and the ability to respond rather than react. From daily walk-throughs to crisis moments, he explains how mindful leadership can create safer, more connected job sites.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Together, they explore how small mindset shifts can lead to big impacts, and why building a culture of safety starts with being intentional — moment by moment.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In Episode 19 of <em>Above and Below</em>, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with Vikram Kapur for a thoughtful conversation on mindfulness and safety in the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Vikram shares why mindfulness isn’t about meditation — it’s about awareness, presence, and the ability to respond rather than react. From daily walk-throughs to crisis moments, he explains how mindful leadership can create safer, more connected job sites.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Together, they explore how small mindset shifts can lead to big impacts, and why building a culture of safety starts with being intentional — moment by moment.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In Episode 19 of Above and Below, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with Vikram Kapur for a thoughtful conversation on mindfulness and safety in the construction industry.
 
Vikram shares why mindfulness isn’t about meditation — it’s about awareness, presence, and the ability to respond rather than react. From daily walk-throughs to crisis moments, he explains how mindful leadership can create safer, more connected job sites.
 
Together, they explore how small mindset shifts can lead to big impacts, and why building a culture of safety starts with being intentional — moment by moment.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2722</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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    <item>
        <title>Episode 18: Culture Is What You Do When No One’s Watching</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 18: Culture Is What You Do When No One’s Watching</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-18-culture-is-what-you-do-when-no-one-s-watching/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-18-culture-is-what-you-do-when-no-one-s-watching/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2026 00:31:00 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this intimate and thoughtful episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann is joined by Sally Spencer-Thomas to explore the subtle, yet powerful, ways workplace culture is shaped.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Together, they dive into what it means to feel seen and heard on a job site, how small moments of intention can shift the mental health landscape in construction, and why the best cultural change often begins when no one is watching.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This episode is a reminder that leadership is not just a title—it’s a series of choices we make every day, especially when it comes to creating a culture of care.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this intimate and thoughtful episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, host Sonya Bohmann is joined by Sally Spencer-Thomas to explore the subtle, yet powerful, ways workplace culture is shaped.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Together, they dive into what it means to <em>feel seen and heard</em> on a job site, how small moments of intention can shift the mental health landscape in construction, and why the best cultural change often begins when no one is watching.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This episode is a reminder that leadership is not just a title—it’s a series of choices we make every day, especially when it comes to creating a culture of care.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/y8f2t2gwkbcx6pf9/Episode_18_Above_and_Below_Podcastb2uhw.mp3" length="77132357" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this intimate and thoughtful episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann is joined by Sally Spencer-Thomas to explore the subtle, yet powerful, ways workplace culture is shaped.
 
Together, they dive into what it means to feel seen and heard on a job site, how small moments of intention can shift the mental health landscape in construction, and why the best cultural change often begins when no one is watching.
 
This episode is a reminder that leadership is not just a title—it’s a series of choices we make every day, especially when it comes to creating a culture of care.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>1928</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
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    <item>
        <title>Episode 17: Culture Is Built in Moments: Everyday Mentorship in Construction with Ted Ma</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 17: Culture Is Built in Moments: Everyday Mentorship in Construction with Ted Ma</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-17-culture-is-built-in-moments-everyday-mentorship-in-construction-with-ted-ma/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-17-culture-is-built-in-moments-everyday-mentorship-in-construction-with-ted-ma/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2025 00:01:00 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this powerful episode of Above and Below, Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with leadership strategist and keynote speaker Ted Ma to explore how mentorship—both formal and informal—can reshape the culture of the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">From apprenticeships to executive roles, this conversation dives into the emotional side of leadership, the importance of building real human connection at every level, and how everyday interactions—“the moments, not the meetings”—can be opportunities to lead, support, and transform.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re a seasoned project manager, a craft worker, or just starting out, this episode will inspire you to reflect on how you’re showing up for others—and who you’re letting show up for you.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">🔗 Download Ted’s free white paper, Everyday Mentorship:</p>
<p class="p1">https://mailchi.mp/27a1f1e1d42c/jsbyw51s80</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this powerful episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with leadership strategist and keynote speaker Ted Ma to explore how <em>mentorship</em>—both formal and informal—can reshape the culture of the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">From apprenticeships to executive roles, this conversation dives into the emotional side of leadership, the importance of building real human connection at every level, and how everyday interactions—“the moments, not the meetings”—can be opportunities to lead, support, and transform.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re a seasoned project manager, a craft worker, or just starting out, this episode will inspire you to reflect on how you’re showing up for others—and who you’re letting show up for you.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">🔗 Download Ted’s free white paper, <em>Everyday Mentorship</em>:</p>
<p class="p1">https://mailchi.mp/27a1f1e1d42c/jsbyw51s80</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/aygyvjyx9rumjk2d/Episode_17_Above_and_Below_Podcast64opf.mp3" length="85206284" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this powerful episode of Above and Below, Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with leadership strategist and keynote speaker Ted Ma to explore how mentorship—both formal and informal—can reshape the culture of the construction industry.
 
From apprenticeships to executive roles, this conversation dives into the emotional side of leadership, the importance of building real human connection at every level, and how everyday interactions—“the moments, not the meetings”—can be opportunities to lead, support, and transform.
 
Whether you’re a seasoned project manager, a craft worker, or just starting out, this episode will inspire you to reflect on how you’re showing up for others—and who you’re letting show up for you.
 
🔗 Download Ted’s free white paper, Everyday Mentorship:
https://mailchi.mp/27a1f1e1d42c/jsbyw51s80]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2130</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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    <item>
        <title>Episode 16: Building Trust, One Conversation at a Time: Mental Wellness in Construction with Dr. Elyse Dubb</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 16: Building Trust, One Conversation at a Time: Mental Wellness in Construction with Dr. Elyse Dubb</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-16-building-trust-one-conversation-at-a-time-mental-wellness-in-construction-with-dr-elyse-dubb/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-16-building-trust-one-conversation-at-a-time-mental-wellness-in-construction-with-dr-elyse-dubb/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2025 00:41:00 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">What does it take to build real community in construction? In this episode of Above and Below, Sonya Bohmann sits down with Dr. Elyse Dubb, a psychologist and founder of Inside Onsite Mental Wellness, to explore how trust, vulnerability, and shared values can help foster safer, more connected job sites. From music as a stress reliever to the power of asking “How are you—really?”, this conversation offers simple, actionable tools for leaders and peers alike. If you’ve ever wondered how to support your team’s mental health without big budgets or formal programs, this episode is for you.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">What does it take to build real community in construction? In this episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, Sonya Bohmann sits down with Dr. Elyse Dubb, a psychologist and founder of Inside Onsite Mental Wellness, to explore how trust, vulnerability, and shared values can help foster safer, more connected job sites. From music as a stress reliever to the power of asking “How are you—really?”, this conversation offers simple, actionable tools for leaders and peers alike. If you’ve ever wondered how to support your team’s mental health without big budgets or formal programs, this episode is for you.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/wiv3c2mfw8237chz/Episode_16_Above_and_Below_Podcast784bb.mp3" length="59959459" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[What does it take to build real community in construction? In this episode of Above and Below, Sonya Bohmann sits down with Dr. Elyse Dubb, a psychologist and founder of Inside Onsite Mental Wellness, to explore how trust, vulnerability, and shared values can help foster safer, more connected job sites. From music as a stress reliever to the power of asking “How are you—really?”, this conversation offers simple, actionable tools for leaders and peers alike. If you’ve ever wondered how to support your team’s mental health without big budgets or formal programs, this episode is for you.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>1498</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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    <item>
        <title>Episode 15: Honest Talk About Addiction: Listening Without Judgment</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 15: Honest Talk About Addiction: Listening Without Judgment</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-15-honest-talk-about-addiction-listening-without-judgment/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-15-honest-talk-about-addiction-listening-without-judgment/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2025 00:11:00 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of Above and Below, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with Sarah and Matthew Cottam for a raw and deeply personal conversation about addiction, recovery, and the family bonds that helped them through it.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Matthew shares his experience navigating substance use while working in the trades, often hiding in plain sight while struggling with internal battles. Sarah opens up about the power of unconditional love, and the moments that tested their trust, communication, and resilience.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Together, they reflect on what it means to truly support someone through recovery, how stigma keeps too many people silent, and why sharing stories like theirs is essential to breaking down shame in the construction community.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This episode is a testament to vulnerability, strength, and the impact of choosing connection over judgment.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with Sarah and Matthew Cottam for a raw and deeply personal conversation about addiction, recovery, and the family bonds that helped them through it.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Matthew shares his experience navigating substance use while working in the trades, often hiding in plain sight while struggling with internal battles. Sarah opens up about the power of unconditional love, and the moments that tested their trust, communication, and resilience.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Together, they reflect on what it means to truly support someone through recovery, how stigma keeps too many people silent, and why sharing stories like theirs is essential to breaking down shame in the construction community.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This episode is a testament to vulnerability, strength, and the impact of choosing connection over judgment.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/4z84n4b52qu2z5u6/Episode_15_Above_and_Below_Podcast886p5.mp3" length="100055329" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Above and Below, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with Sarah and Matthew Cottam for a raw and deeply personal conversation about addiction, recovery, and the family bonds that helped them through it.
 
Matthew shares his experience navigating substance use while working in the trades, often hiding in plain sight while struggling with internal battles. Sarah opens up about the power of unconditional love, and the moments that tested their trust, communication, and resilience.
 
Together, they reflect on what it means to truly support someone through recovery, how stigma keeps too many people silent, and why sharing stories like theirs is essential to breaking down shame in the construction community.
 
This episode is a testament to vulnerability, strength, and the impact of choosing connection over judgment.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2501</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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    <item>
        <title>Episode 14: North of the Border, Aligned in Purpose: Canadian Approaches to Mental Health in Construction</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 14: North of the Border, Aligned in Purpose: Canadian Approaches to Mental Health in Construction</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/north-of-the-border-aligned-in-purpose-canadian-approaches-to-mental-health-in-construction/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/north-of-the-border-aligned-in-purpose-canadian-approaches-to-mental-health-in-construction/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2025 00:45:00 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann and board member Zulq Malik are joined by Kathy Martin, Workplace Mental Health and Wellness Specialist at the Infrastructure Health and Safety Association (IHSA) in Ontario. Together, they explore the parallels and distinctions between Canadian and U.S. approaches to suicide prevention and mental health support in the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Kathy shares insights from the Ontario Construction Industry Suicide Prevention Roundtable, the growing adoption of Employee Assistance Programs (EAPs), and the critical importance of micro-trainings and accessible resources like LivingWorks Start. The conversation dives into the importance of psychological safety, the value of peer support, and what both employers and employees can do today to start building a healthier, more connected workforce.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re in Canada or the U.S., this episode is a reminder that the challenges are shared — and so are the solutions.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann and board member Zulq Malik are joined by Kathy Martin, Workplace Mental Health and Wellness Specialist at the Infrastructure Health and Safety Association (IHSA) in Ontario. Together, they explore the parallels and distinctions between Canadian and U.S. approaches to suicide prevention and mental health support in the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Kathy shares insights from the Ontario Construction Industry Suicide Prevention Roundtable, the growing adoption of Employee Assistance Programs (EAPs), and the critical importance of micro-trainings and accessible resources like LivingWorks Start. The conversation dives into the importance of psychological safety, the value of peer support, and what both employers and employees can do today to start building a healthier, more connected workforce.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re in Canada or the U.S., this episode is a reminder that the challenges are shared — and so are the solutions.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/yd7zyy6zmpjf75tn/Episode_14_Above_and_Below_Podcastbrsz5.mp3" length="68228782" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann and board member Zulq Malik are joined by Kathy Martin, Workplace Mental Health and Wellness Specialist at the Infrastructure Health and Safety Association (IHSA) in Ontario. Together, they explore the parallels and distinctions between Canadian and U.S. approaches to suicide prevention and mental health support in the construction industry.
 
Kathy shares insights from the Ontario Construction Industry Suicide Prevention Roundtable, the growing adoption of Employee Assistance Programs (EAPs), and the critical importance of micro-trainings and accessible resources like LivingWorks Start. The conversation dives into the importance of psychological safety, the value of peer support, and what both employers and employees can do today to start building a healthier, more connected workforce.
 
Whether you’re in Canada or the U.S., this episode is a reminder that the challenges are shared — and so are the solutions.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>1705</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 13: Postvention Is Prevention: Dr. John Gaal’s Mission After Tragedy</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 13: Postvention Is Prevention: Dr. John Gaal’s Mission After Tragedy</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-13-postvention-is-prevention-dr-john-gaal-s-mission-after-tragedy/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-13-postvention-is-prevention-dr-john-gaal-s-mission-after-tragedy/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2025 00:02:00 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this powerful episode of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann and board member Zulq Malik are joined by Dr. John Gaal, a respected construction industry veteran and leading voice in suicide postvention. Dr. Gaal shares the deeply personal story that shaped his second career and explores how postvention, supporting families, coworkers, and communities after a suicide, is a critical yet often overlooked component of a comprehensive suicide prevention strategy.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Together, they discuss the gaps that still exist in the construction industry, the importance of peer support, and the resources that are beginning to make a difference. From Total Worker Health to cultural shifts across job sites, this episode is a call to action for leaders at every level to build a stronger and more caring construction community.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this powerful episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann and board member Zulq Malik are joined by Dr. John Gaal, a respected construction industry veteran and leading voice in suicide postvention. Dr. Gaal shares the deeply personal story that shaped his second career and explores how postvention, supporting families, coworkers, and communities after a suicide, is a critical yet often overlooked component of a comprehensive suicide prevention strategy.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Together, they discuss the gaps that still exist in the construction industry, the importance of peer support, and the resources that are beginning to make a difference. From Total Worker Health to cultural shifts across job sites, this episode is a call to action for leaders at every level to build a stronger and more caring construction community.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this powerful episode of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann and board member Zulq Malik are joined by Dr. John Gaal, a respected construction industry veteran and leading voice in suicide postvention. Dr. Gaal shares the deeply personal story that shaped his second career and explores how postvention, supporting families, coworkers, and communities after a suicide, is a critical yet often overlooked component of a comprehensive suicide prevention strategy.
 
Together, they discuss the gaps that still exist in the construction industry, the importance of peer support, and the resources that are beginning to make a difference. From Total Worker Health to cultural shifts across job sites, this episode is a call to action for leaders at every level to build a stronger and more caring construction community.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2926</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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    <item>
        <title>Episode 12: The Critical Link: Suicide Prevention and Substance Use in Construction</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 12: The Critical Link: Suicide Prevention and Substance Use in Construction</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-12-the-critical-link-suicide-prevention-and-substance-use-in-construction/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-12-the-critical-link-suicide-prevention-and-substance-use-in-construction/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2025 00:57:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In Episode 12 of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann is joined by Cal Beyer (SAFE Project) and Nick Williams (Subcontractors Association of Colorado) for a powerful conversation on the intersection between suicide prevention and substance use in the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p1">Together, they discuss:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p class="p1">Why separating these conversations does a disservice to workers</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">How substance use shows up on the job site</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">What recovery-friendly workplaces actually look like</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">The leadership shift from transactional to transformational</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Practical tools to support employees before a crisis occurs</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="p1">This honest and hope-filled episode tackles stigma, language, and the systems that either support or fail our workforce. If you’re a leader looking to create safer, more compassionate job sites—or simply a human who cares about others—this conversation is for you.</p>
<p class="p1">Learn more at <a href='http://www.ciasp.org'>www.ciasp.org</a></p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In Episode 12 of <em>Above and Below</em>, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann is joined by Cal Beyer (SAFE Project) and Nick Williams (Subcontractors Association of Colorado) for a powerful conversation on the intersection between suicide prevention and substance use in the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p1">Together, they discuss:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p class="p1">Why separating these conversations does a disservice to workers</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">How substance use shows up on the job site</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">What recovery-friendly workplaces actually look like</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">The leadership shift from transactional to transformational</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Practical tools to support employees before a crisis occurs</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="p1">This honest and hope-filled episode tackles stigma, language, and the systems that either support or fail our workforce. If you’re a leader looking to create safer, more compassionate job sites—or simply a human who cares about others—this conversation is for you.</p>
<p class="p1">Learn more at <a href='http://www.ciasp.org'>www.ciasp.org</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In Episode 12 of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann is joined by Cal Beyer (SAFE Project) and Nick Williams (Subcontractors Association of Colorado) for a powerful conversation on the intersection between suicide prevention and substance use in the construction industry.
Together, they discuss:


Why separating these conversations does a disservice to workers


How substance use shows up on the job site


What recovery-friendly workplaces actually look like


The leadership shift from transactional to transformational


Practical tools to support employees before a crisis occurs


This honest and hope-filled episode tackles stigma, language, and the systems that either support or fail our workforce. If you’re a leader looking to create safer, more compassionate job sites—or simply a human who cares about others—this conversation is for you.
Learn more at www.ciasp.org]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2630</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 11: Breaking the Silence: Substance Use, Recovery, and Suicide Prevention in Construction</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 11: Breaking the Silence: Substance Use, Recovery, and Suicide Prevention in Construction</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-11-breaking-the-silence-substance-use-recovery-and-suicide-prevention-in-construction/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-11-breaking-the-silence-substance-use-recovery-and-suicide-prevention-in-construction/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 00:05:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Substance use. Mental health. Suicide prevention.</p>
<p>These aren’t just HR topics; they’re life-saving conversations that need to happen on every job site.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In this episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann welcomes Cal Beyer, Senior Director at SAFE Project, for an honest conversation about the realities facing construction workers today and how industry leaders can show up for their teams.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Together, they explore:</p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight:400;">The link between substance use and suicide in the construction industry</li>
<li style="font-weight:400;">Why recovery belongs in safety conversations</li>
<li style="font-weight:400;">How tools like naloxone can save lives</li>
<li style="font-weight:400;">What it means to be a recovery-friendly workplace</li>
<li style="font-weight:400;">Practical steps companies of any size can take to reduce stigma and support change</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>Whether you lead a crew or care about someone who works in construction, this episode will leave you better equipped to help and more inspired to act.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Substance use. Mental health. Suicide prevention.</p>
<p>These aren’t just HR topics; they’re life-saving conversations that need to happen on every job site.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In this episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann welcomes Cal Beyer, Senior Director at SAFE Project, for an honest conversation about the realities facing construction workers today and how industry leaders can show up for their teams.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Together, they explore:</p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight:400;">The link between substance use and suicide in the construction industry</li>
<li style="font-weight:400;">Why recovery belongs in safety conversations</li>
<li style="font-weight:400;">How tools like naloxone can save lives</li>
<li style="font-weight:400;">What it means to be a recovery-friendly workplace</li>
<li style="font-weight:400;">Practical steps companies of any size can take to reduce stigma and support change</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>Whether you lead a crew or care about someone who works in construction, this episode will leave you better equipped to help and more inspired to act.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Substance use. Mental health. Suicide prevention.
These aren’t just HR topics; they’re life-saving conversations that need to happen on every job site.
 
In this episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann welcomes Cal Beyer, Senior Director at SAFE Project, for an honest conversation about the realities facing construction workers today and how industry leaders can show up for their teams.
 
Together, they explore:

The link between substance use and suicide in the construction industry
Why recovery belongs in safety conversations
How tools like naloxone can save lives
What it means to be a recovery-friendly workplace
Practical steps companies of any size can take to reduce stigma and support change

 
Whether you lead a crew or care about someone who works in construction, this episode will leave you better equipped to help and more inspired to act.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2449</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 10: Veterans in Construction: From Combat to Jobsite – A Mission to Save Lives</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 10: Veterans in Construction: From Combat to Jobsite – A Mission to Save Lives</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-10-veterans-in-construction-from-combat-to-jobsite-%e2%80%93-a-mission-to-save-lives/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-10-veterans-in-construction-from-combat-to-jobsite-%e2%80%93-a-mission-to-save-lives/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2025 00:40:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this powerful episode of Above and Below, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik are joined by three guests deeply committed to veteran suicide prevention and workforce integration:</p>
<ul>
<li class="p1">Scott Wiesner, Founder &amp; CEO of C2MS and retired Army Colonel</li>
<li class="p1">Greg Wuestner, Director of Engineering at QTS and former Infantry Officer</li>
<li class="p1">Hayley Emerson, National Fundraising Specialist at Stop Soldier Suicide</li>
</ul>
<p class="p1">Together, they discuss the urgent intersection between veterans, the construction industry, and suicide prevention. With personal stories of loss and survival, this episode offers raw insights into post-service challenges and the critical role employers can play in creating supportive environments.</p>
<p class="p1">They explore:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p class="p1">Why veterans are naturally drawn to construction careers</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">How to recognize hidden struggles and start meaningful conversations</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">What small-to-mid-sized construction businesses can do to support veteran mental health</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Free, practical tools from Stop Soldier Suicide that anyone can access</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="p1">This episode is a must-listen for anyone in construction leadership, veteran support roles, or anyone who wants to better understand the human stories behind the statistics.</p>
<p class="p4">Resources mentioned:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href='https://stopsoldiersuicide.org'>Stop Soldier Suicide</a></p>
<p class="p1"><a href='https://preventconstructionsuicide.com'>CIASP</a></p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this powerful episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik are joined by three guests deeply committed to veteran suicide prevention and workforce integration:</p>
<ul>
<li class="p1">Scott Wiesner, Founder &amp; CEO of C2MS and retired Army Colonel</li>
<li class="p1">Greg Wuestner, Director of Engineering at QTS and former Infantry Officer</li>
<li class="p1">Hayley Emerson, National Fundraising Specialist at Stop Soldier Suicide</li>
</ul>
<p class="p1">Together, they discuss the urgent intersection between veterans, the construction industry, and suicide prevention. With personal stories of loss and survival, this episode offers raw insights into post-service challenges and the critical role employers can play in creating supportive environments.</p>
<p class="p1">They explore:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p class="p1">Why veterans are naturally drawn to construction careers</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">How to recognize hidden struggles and start meaningful conversations</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">What small-to-mid-sized construction businesses can do to support veteran mental health</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Free, practical tools from Stop Soldier Suicide that anyone can access</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="p1">This episode is a must-listen for anyone in construction leadership, veteran support roles, or anyone who wants to better understand the human stories behind the statistics.</p>
<p class="p4">Resources mentioned:</p>
<p class="p1"><a href='https://stopsoldiersuicide.org'>Stop Soldier Suicide</a></p>
<p class="p1"><a href='https://preventconstructionsuicide.com'>CIASP</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this powerful episode of Above and Below, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik are joined by three guests deeply committed to veteran suicide prevention and workforce integration:

Scott Wiesner, Founder &amp; CEO of C2MS and retired Army Colonel
Greg Wuestner, Director of Engineering at QTS and former Infantry Officer
Hayley Emerson, National Fundraising Specialist at Stop Soldier Suicide

Together, they discuss the urgent intersection between veterans, the construction industry, and suicide prevention. With personal stories of loss and survival, this episode offers raw insights into post-service challenges and the critical role employers can play in creating supportive environments.
They explore:


Why veterans are naturally drawn to construction careers


How to recognize hidden struggles and start meaningful conversations


What small-to-mid-sized construction businesses can do to support veteran mental health


Free, practical tools from Stop Soldier Suicide that anyone can access


This episode is a must-listen for anyone in construction leadership, veteran support roles, or anyone who wants to better understand the human stories behind the statistics.
Resources mentioned:
Stop Soldier Suicide
CIASP]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2425</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 9: Postvention in Practice: What to Say, Do, and Avoid After a Suicide Loss</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 9: Postvention in Practice: What to Say, Do, and Avoid After a Suicide Loss</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/postvention-in-practice-what-to-say-do-and-avoid-after-a-suicide-loss/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/postvention-in-practice-what-to-say-do-and-avoid-after-a-suicide-loss/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 00:20:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">When a suicide happens, what comes next can make all the difference.</p>
<p class="p1">In this emotional and informative episode of Above and Below, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik are joined by Michelle Walker, Nicholas DeJesse, and Ismet Dalipi to explore the concept of postvention—and why it’s one of the most critical, yet overlooked, aspects of suicide prevention in construction.</p>
<p class="p1"> You’ll hear:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p class="p1">What “postvention” actually means on a job site</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">How companies often get it wrong—and what to do instead</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Why silence can be more damaging than saying the “wrong” thing</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">The importance of small actions, follow-up, and acknowledgment</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Real stories and lessons from leaders who have lived through it</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="p1">“If you do nothing, you’re reinforcing the stigma. If you say something, you’re reinforcing that you’re human.”</p>
<p class="p1">This episode is a must-listen for company leaders, safety managers, and anyone trying to build a culture that stands up—for the living and the lost.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">When a suicide happens, what comes next can make all the difference.</p>
<p class="p1">In this emotional and informative episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik are joined by Michelle Walker, Nicholas DeJesse, and Ismet Dalipi to explore the concept of postvention—and why it’s one of the most critical, yet overlooked, aspects of suicide prevention in construction.</p>
<p class="p1"> You’ll hear:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p class="p1">What “postvention” actually means on a job site</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">How companies often get it wrong—and what to do instead</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Why silence can be more damaging than saying the “wrong” thing</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">The importance of small actions, follow-up, and acknowledgment</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Real stories and lessons from leaders who have lived through it</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="p1">“If you do nothing, you’re reinforcing the stigma. If you say something, you’re reinforcing that you’re human.”</p>
<p class="p1">This episode is a must-listen for company leaders, safety managers, and anyone trying to build a culture that stands up—for the living and the lost.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/axt9hvx2qz8chebv/Episode_9_Above_and_Below_Podcasta47pa.mp3" length="118277304" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[When a suicide happens, what comes next can make all the difference.
In this emotional and informative episode of Above and Below, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik are joined by Michelle Walker, Nicholas DeJesse, and Ismet Dalipi to explore the concept of postvention—and why it’s one of the most critical, yet overlooked, aspects of suicide prevention in construction.
 You’ll hear:


What “postvention” actually means on a job site


How companies often get it wrong—and what to do instead


Why silence can be more damaging than saying the “wrong” thing


The importance of small actions, follow-up, and acknowledgment


Real stories and lessons from leaders who have lived through it


“If you do nothing, you’re reinforcing the stigma. If you say something, you’re reinforcing that you’re human.”
This episode is a must-listen for company leaders, safety managers, and anyone trying to build a culture that stands up—for the living and the lost.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2956</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 8:  "Too Tough to Talk?" with McKay Daniels</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 8:  "Too Tough to Talk?" with McKay Daniels</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-8-too-tough-to-talk-with-mckay-daniels/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-8-too-tough-to-talk-with-mckay-daniels/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2025 00:22:00 -0300</pubDate>
        <guid isPermaLink="false">infoihnz.podbean.com/c5573112-889c-3285-8ded-a0bc64691a33</guid>
                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">What does it really mean to be “tough” in construction—and how is that mindset harming our workforce?</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">In this powerful episode of Above and Below, we’re joined by McKay Daniels, CEO of the National Roofing Contractors Association, to discuss the silent crisis of mental health in roofing and the broader construction industry. Together with hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik, McKay shares how NRCA is stepping up—removing stigma, raising awareness, and taking action.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">The conversation touches on:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p class="p1">The generational pressures that keep workers from speaking up</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">What it takes to “be tough enough to ask for help”</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Why collaboration across trades and associations is essential</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">The story behind NRCA’s powerful mental health video</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Real talk about what gives us hope for change</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re in the field or the front office, this conversation is for you.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">What does it really mean to be “tough” in construction—and how is that mindset harming our workforce?</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">In this powerful episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, we’re joined by McKay Daniels, CEO of the National Roofing Contractors Association, to discuss the silent crisis of mental health in roofing and the broader construction industry. Together with hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik, McKay shares how NRCA is stepping up—removing stigma, raising awareness, and taking action.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">The conversation touches on:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p class="p1">The generational pressures that keep workers from speaking up</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">What it takes to “be tough enough to ask for help”</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Why collaboration across trades and associations is essential</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">The story behind NRCA’s powerful mental health video</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Real talk about what gives us hope for change</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re in the field or the front office, this conversation is for you.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/w86ngc6nkjmp8k5f/Episode_8_Above_and_Below_Podcast_2_9xges.mp3" length="106557729" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[What does it really mean to be “tough” in construction—and how is that mindset harming our workforce?
 
In this powerful episode of Above and Below, we’re joined by McKay Daniels, CEO of the National Roofing Contractors Association, to discuss the silent crisis of mental health in roofing and the broader construction industry. Together with hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik, McKay shares how NRCA is stepping up—removing stigma, raising awareness, and taking action.
 
The conversation touches on:


The generational pressures that keep workers from speaking up


What it takes to “be tough enough to ask for help”


Why collaboration across trades and associations is essential


The story behind NRCA’s powerful mental health video


Real talk about what gives us hope for change


 
Whether you’re in the field or the front office, this conversation is for you.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2663</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 7: "Finding Your Anchor” with Paul Lawson</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 7: "Finding Your Anchor” with Paul Lawson</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-7-finding-your-anchor-with-paul-lawson/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-7-finding-your-anchor-with-paul-lawson/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2025 00:22:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">What happens when the pressure becomes too much—and you don’t know how to ask for help?</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">In this deeply personal episode, Paul Lawson shares his story of mental health challenges, professional burnout, and the breaking point that forced him to finally stop and reassess. From the stigma around vulnerability in construction to the internal shame that often holds people back from getting support, Paul speaks with courage and clarity about the journey to healing.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">🔹 Why vulnerability is still taboo in the trades</p>
<p class="p1">🔹 How unprocessed trauma and overwork can collide</p>
<p class="p1">🔹 The unexpected place Paul found hope again</p>
<p class="p1">🔹 What it means to build a life around intention and care</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This conversation is raw, reflective, and incredibly important—especially as we head into Suicide Prevention Month.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">📍 Listen in and share with someone who may need to hear they’re not alone.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">What happens when the pressure becomes too much—and you don’t know how to ask for help?</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">In this deeply personal episode, Paul Lawson shares his story of mental health challenges, professional burnout, and the breaking point that forced him to finally stop and reassess. From the stigma around vulnerability in construction to the internal shame that often holds people back from getting support, Paul speaks with courage and clarity about the journey to healing.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">🔹 Why vulnerability is still taboo in the trades</p>
<p class="p1">🔹 How unprocessed trauma and overwork can collide</p>
<p class="p1">🔹 The unexpected place Paul found hope again</p>
<p class="p1">🔹 What it means to build a life around intention and care</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">This conversation is raw, reflective, and incredibly important—especially as we head into Suicide Prevention Month.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">📍 Listen in and share with someone who may need to hear they’re not alone.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[What happens when the pressure becomes too much—and you don’t know how to ask for help?
 
In this deeply personal episode, Paul Lawson shares his story of mental health challenges, professional burnout, and the breaking point that forced him to finally stop and reassess. From the stigma around vulnerability in construction to the internal shame that often holds people back from getting support, Paul speaks with courage and clarity about the journey to healing.
 
🔹 Why vulnerability is still taboo in the trades
🔹 How unprocessed trauma and overwork can collide
🔹 The unexpected place Paul found hope again
🔹 What it means to build a life around intention and care
 
This conversation is raw, reflective, and incredibly important—especially as we head into Suicide Prevention Month.
 
📍 Listen in and share with someone who may need to hear they’re not alone.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2539</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 6: The Pressure to Excel: Minority Mental Health in Construction</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 6: The Pressure to Excel: Minority Mental Health in Construction</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-6-the-pressure-to-excel-minority-mental-health-in-construction/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-6-the-pressure-to-excel-minority-mental-health-in-construction/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2025 00:32:00 -0300</pubDate>
        <guid isPermaLink="false">infoihnz.podbean.com/891bc886-3fde-351f-bcd1-c6fdea093334</guid>
                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In honor of Minority Mental Health Month, Sonya and Zulk sit down with engineer and construction leader Kwame Ben Eden for a deeply honest conversation about the lived experience of being a person of color in the industry. From growing up in Jamaica and finding identity in Ghana, to navigating systemic bias on job sites across Canada, Kwame shares how perseverance, self-discipline, and mentorship shaped his journey. This powerful episode explores racism, resilience, and what it truly means to lead with integrity in a space that doesn’t always welcome you.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In honor of Minority Mental Health Month, Sonya and Zulk sit down with engineer and construction leader Kwame Ben Eden for a deeply honest conversation about the lived experience of being a person of color in the industry. From growing up in Jamaica and finding identity in Ghana, to navigating systemic bias on job sites across Canada, Kwame shares how perseverance, self-discipline, and mentorship shaped his journey. This powerful episode explores racism, resilience, and what it truly means to lead with integrity in a space that doesn’t always welcome you.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/d7cynp4wnpiwkzsr/Episode_6_Above_and_Below_Podcastbva1t.mp3" length="129404423" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In honor of Minority Mental Health Month, Sonya and Zulk sit down with engineer and construction leader Kwame Ben Eden for a deeply honest conversation about the lived experience of being a person of color in the industry. From growing up in Jamaica and finding identity in Ghana, to navigating systemic bias on job sites across Canada, Kwame shares how perseverance, self-discipline, and mentorship shaped his journey. This powerful episode explores racism, resilience, and what it truly means to lead with integrity in a space that doesn’t always welcome you.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>3235</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 5: Language Matters</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 5: Language Matters</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-5-language-matters/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-5-language-matters/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2025 00:34:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of Above and Below, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik are joined by Monique Lewis and Loretta Mulberry to explore how language access, cultural sensitivity, and communication shape safety and mental wellness on construction sites.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">From bilingual champions and AI translation tools to glossary sheets and onboarding surveys, this conversation dives into real, practical steps contractors can take to build more inclusive and safer job sites. You’ll hear stories, insights, and advice on how simply trying to bridge language gaps can transform company culture and retention from the inside out.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">💬 “Your willingness to drop the fear and just try has insane payoffs.”</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">▶️ Listen now—because language doesn’t just affect communication. It affects lives.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik are joined by Monique Lewis and Loretta Mulberry to explore how language access, cultural sensitivity, and communication shape safety and mental wellness on construction sites.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">From bilingual champions and AI translation tools to glossary sheets and onboarding surveys, this conversation dives into real, practical steps contractors can take to build more inclusive and safer job sites. You’ll hear stories, insights, and advice on how simply <em>trying</em> to bridge language gaps can transform company culture and retention from the inside out.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">💬 “Your willingness to drop the fear and just try has insane payoffs.”</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">▶️ Listen now—because language doesn’t just affect communication. It affects lives.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/xsmne8ibhyzhr67y/Episode_5_Above_and_Below_Podcast_2_6czn2.mp3" length="114094578" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Above and Below, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik are joined by Monique Lewis and Loretta Mulberry to explore how language access, cultural sensitivity, and communication shape safety and mental wellness on construction sites.
 
From bilingual champions and AI translation tools to glossary sheets and onboarding surveys, this conversation dives into real, practical steps contractors can take to build more inclusive and safer job sites. You’ll hear stories, insights, and advice on how simply trying to bridge language gaps can transform company culture and retention from the inside out.
 
💬 “Your willingness to drop the fear and just try has insane payoffs.”
 
▶️ Listen now—because language doesn’t just affect communication. It affects lives.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2852</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 4 Part 2: Men's Health Month Part 2 - Leadership, Legacy &amp; Letting Go of the Mask</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 4 Part 2: Men's Health Month Part 2 - Leadership, Legacy &amp; Letting Go of the Mask</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/mens-health-month-part-2-leadership-legacy-letting-go-of-the-mask/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/mens-health-month-part-2-leadership-legacy-letting-go-of-the-mask/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2025 00:06:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">Above &amp; Below – Episode 4, Part 2</p>
<p class="p2">“Leadership, Legacy &amp; Letting Go of the Mask”</p>
<p class="p2">Host: Zulq (CIASP Board Member)</p>
<p class="p2">Guests: Andrew Theokas, Stephen Dummit, and Jason Scholl</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">In Part 2 of this powerful Men’s Health Month conversation, host Zulq continues the dialogue with Andrew Theokas, Stephen Dummit, and Jason Scholl—three men in the construction industry who know the pressure to “man up” all too well.</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">Together, they dive deeper into:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p class="p1">Why leading by example is the most powerful form of leadership</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">How to break the cycle of silence for the next generation</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">The role of mentorship, vulnerability, and trust on the jobsite</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">What they’ve learned—and unlearned—about mental health as men</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">Real talk. Raw moments. And a clear message:</p>
<p class="p1">You don’t have to carry it all alone.</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">🎧 Listen in and share this with someone who needs to hear it.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">Above &amp; Below – Episode 4, Part 2</p>
<p class="p2"><em>“Leadership, Legacy &amp; Letting Go of the Mask”</em></p>
<p class="p2">Host: Zulq (CIASP Board Member)</p>
<p class="p2">Guests: Andrew Theokas, Stephen Dummit, and Jason Scholl</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">In Part 2 of this powerful Men’s Health Month conversation, host Zulq continues the dialogue with Andrew Theokas, Stephen Dummit, and Jason Scholl—three men in the construction industry who know the pressure to “man up” all too well.</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">Together, they dive deeper into:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p class="p1">Why leading by example is the most powerful form of leadership</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">How to break the cycle of silence for the next generation</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">The role of mentorship, vulnerability, and trust on the jobsite</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">What they’ve learned—and unlearned—about mental health as men</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">Real talk. Raw moments. And a clear message:</p>
<p class="p1">You don’t have to carry it all alone.</p>
<p class="p3"> </p>
<p class="p2">🎧 Listen in and share this with someone who needs to hear it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/pjry46uswutn8guu/Episode_4_Part_2_Above_and_Below_Podcast80kgs.mp3" length="96505810" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Above &amp; Below – Episode 4, Part 2
“Leadership, Legacy &amp; Letting Go of the Mask”
Host: Zulq (CIASP Board Member)
Guests: Andrew Theokas, Stephen Dummit, and Jason Scholl
 
In Part 2 of this powerful Men’s Health Month conversation, host Zulq continues the dialogue with Andrew Theokas, Stephen Dummit, and Jason Scholl—three men in the construction industry who know the pressure to “man up” all too well.
 
Together, they dive deeper into:


Why leading by example is the most powerful form of leadership


How to break the cycle of silence for the next generation


The role of mentorship, vulnerability, and trust on the jobsite


What they’ve learned—and unlearned—about mental health as men


 
Real talk. Raw moments. And a clear message:
You don’t have to carry it all alone.
 
🎧 Listen in and share this with someone who needs to hear it.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2412</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 4 Part 1: Men's Health Month - You Don’t Have to Tough It Out Alone</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 4 Part 1: Men's Health Month - You Don’t Have to Tough It Out Alone</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/mens-health-month-part-1/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/mens-health-month-part-1/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2025 00:05:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this special Men’s Health Month edition of Above &amp; Below, we hand the mic to the men — for a candid, no-filter conversation about mental health in the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">CIASP Board Member Zulq sits down with Andrew Theokas, Stephen Dummit, and Jason Scholl to unpack the unspoken pressures men face: to stay silent, push through pain, and never ask for help.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">In Part 1, the group explores:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p class="p1">The myth of “toughing it out”</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Why vulnerability is a leadership skill</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">How culture, upbringing, and jobsite expectations affect mental wellness</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">What it means to truly support one another in the field</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re on a crew or leading one, this episode is for you — and the people who count on you to come home safe, every day.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this special Men’s Health Month edition of <em>Above &amp; Below</em>, we hand the mic to the men — for a candid, no-filter conversation about mental health in the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">CIASP Board Member Zulq sits down with Andrew Theokas, Stephen Dummit, and Jason Scholl to unpack the unspoken pressures men face: to stay silent, push through pain, and never ask for help.</p>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">In Part 1, the group explores:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p class="p1">The myth of “toughing it out”</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">Why vulnerability is a leadership skill</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">How culture, upbringing, and jobsite expectations affect mental wellness</p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="p1">What it means to truly support one another in the field</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="p2"> </p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re on a crew or leading one, this episode is for you — and the people who count on you to come home safe, every day.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/hwyj2ks8ncgn8g5a/Episode_4_Part_1_Above_and_Below_Podcast8agpl.mp3" length="54697353" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this special Men’s Health Month edition of Above &amp; Below, we hand the mic to the men — for a candid, no-filter conversation about mental health in the construction industry.
 
CIASP Board Member Zulq sits down with Andrew Theokas, Stephen Dummit, and Jason Scholl to unpack the unspoken pressures men face: to stay silent, push through pain, and never ask for help.
 
In Part 1, the group explores:


The myth of “toughing it out”


Why vulnerability is a leadership skill


How culture, upbringing, and jobsite expectations affect mental wellness


What it means to truly support one another in the field


 
Whether you’re on a crew or leading one, this episode is for you — and the people who count on you to come home safe, every day.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>1367</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 3: Unmasking Mental Health—A Cross-Border Conversation</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 3: Unmasking Mental Health—A Cross-Border Conversation</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-3-unmasking-mental-health%e2%80%94a-cross-border-conversation/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-3-unmasking-mental-health%e2%80%94a-cross-border-conversation/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2025 00:05:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik are joined by Giovanni Cautillo, President of the Ontario General Contractors Association, for a powerful and practical conversation about mental health in the construction industry—both in the U.S. and Canada.</p>
<p class="p1">Together, they explore the impact of COVID-19 as a turning point for the mental wellness conversation, how stigma and “tough guy” culture are slowly being dismantled, and why now is the time to make open dialogue and support a jobsite norm. Giovanni shares real-world strategies for creating psychologically safe workplaces, the cost of doing nothing, and why investing in worker well-being is not just the right thing to do—it’s the smart thing to do.</p>
<p class="p1">You’ll also hear personal takes on self-care, slow hobbies, and the importance of leading with intention, gratitude, and balance—three powerful words that anchor this candid and compassionate discussion.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik are joined by Giovanni Cautillo, President of the Ontario General Contractors Association, for a powerful and practical conversation about mental health in the construction industry—both in the U.S. and Canada.</p>
<p class="p1">Together, they explore the impact of COVID-19 as a turning point for the mental wellness conversation, how stigma and “tough guy” culture are slowly being dismantled, and why <em>now</em> is the time to make open dialogue and support a jobsite norm. Giovanni shares real-world strategies for creating psychologically safe workplaces, the cost of doing nothing, and why investing in worker well-being is not just the right thing to do—it’s the smart thing to do.</p>
<p class="p1">You’ll also hear personal takes on self-care, slow hobbies, and the importance of leading with intention, gratitude, and balance—three powerful words that anchor this candid and compassionate discussion.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/yyqw4w3c6btf7nh8/Episode_3_Above_and_Below_Podcast6hmxz.mp3" length="85065223" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Above and Below, CIASP Executive Director Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik are joined by Giovanni Cautillo, President of the Ontario General Contractors Association, for a powerful and practical conversation about mental health in the construction industry—both in the U.S. and Canada.
Together, they explore the impact of COVID-19 as a turning point for the mental wellness conversation, how stigma and “tough guy” culture are slowly being dismantled, and why now is the time to make open dialogue and support a jobsite norm. Giovanni shares real-world strategies for creating psychologically safe workplaces, the cost of doing nothing, and why investing in worker well-being is not just the right thing to do—it’s the smart thing to do.
You’ll also hear personal takes on self-care, slow hobbies, and the importance of leading with intention, gratitude, and balance—three powerful words that anchor this candid and compassionate discussion.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>CIASP</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2126</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
            </item>
    <item>
        <title>Episode 2: Resilience in Real Life with Jessica Hallahan</title>
        <itunes:title>Episode 2: Resilience in Real Life with Jessica Hallahan</itunes:title>
        <link>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-2-resilience-in-real-life-with-jessica-hallahan/</link>
                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/episode-2-resilience-in-real-life-with-jessica-hallahan/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2025 00:05:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this powerful Mental Health Month episode of Above and Below, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with Jessica Hallahan, MPH, founder of Journey to Yourself, to talk about what resilience really means in the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p1">From Philly sandwich debates to serious conversations about stress, self-awareness, and confidence on the job site, this episode explores how building mental strength is just as important as physical toughness. Jessica shares practical tips on communication, daily self-check-ins, and redefining self-care in a way that actually resonates with construction professionals. Bonus? A new favorite phrase you’ll want to steal: “BAMO – Breathe And Move On.”</p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re in the field or the office, this is a must-listen for anyone looking to better support themselves and those around them.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="p1">In this powerful Mental Health Month episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, hosts Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik sit down with Jessica Hallahan, MPH, founder of <em>Journey to Yourself</em>, to talk about what resilience <em>really</em> means in the construction industry.</p>
<p class="p1">From Philly sandwich debates to serious conversations about stress, self-awareness, and confidence on the job site, this episode explores how building mental strength is just as important as physical toughness. Jessica shares practical tips on communication, daily self-check-ins, and redefining self-care in a way that actually resonates with construction professionals. Bonus? A new favorite phrase you’ll want to steal: “BAMO – Breathe And Move On.”</p>
<p class="p1">Whether you’re in the field or the office, this is a must-listen for anyone looking to better support themselves and those around them.</p>
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From Philly sandwich debates to serious conversations about stress, self-awareness, and confidence on the job site, this episode explores how building mental strength is just as important as physical toughness. Jessica shares practical tips on communication, daily self-check-ins, and redefining self-care in a way that actually resonates with construction professionals. Bonus? A new favorite phrase you’ll want to steal: “BAMO – Breathe And Move On.”
Whether you’re in the field or the office, this is a must-listen for anyone looking to better support themselves and those around them.]]></itunes:summary>
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                    <comments>https://infoihnz.podbean.com/e/starting-the-conversation-why-mental-health-in-construction-can-t-wait/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:00:00 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>In the premiere episode of Above and Below, co-hosts Sonya Bohmann (Executive Director, CIASP) and Zulq Malik (SmartBuild Construction Software) dig into why the construction industry must change how it talks about mental health. From personal stories to staggering stats, they open up an honest conversation about suicide prevention, leadership, and the real-life pressures workers face—on and off the jobsite.</p>
<p>Whether you’re on the front lines or in the boardroom, this episode will challenge how you see safety and connection in construction—and give you a reason to get involved.</p>
<p>🔗 Learn more: <a href='http://preventconstructionsuicide.com'>preventconstructionsuicide.com</a>
📲 Follow CIASP on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook for weekly updates.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the premiere episode of <em>Above and Below</em>, co-hosts Sonya Bohmann (Executive Director, CIASP) and Zulq Malik (SmartBuild Construction Software) dig into why the construction industry must change how it talks about mental health. From personal stories to staggering stats, they open up an honest conversation about suicide prevention, leadership, and the real-life pressures workers face—on and off the jobsite.</p>
<p>Whether you’re on the front lines or in the boardroom, this episode will challenge how you see safety and connection in construction—and give you a reason to get involved.</p>
<p>🔗 Learn more: <a href='http://preventconstructionsuicide.com'>preventconstructionsuicide.com</a><br>
📲 Follow CIASP on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook for weekly updates.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In the premiere episode of Above and Below, co-hosts Sonya Bohmann (Executive Director, CIASP) and Zulq Malik (SmartBuild Construction Software) dig into why the construction industry must change how it talks about mental health. From personal stories to staggering stats, they open up an honest conversation about suicide prevention, leadership, and the real-life pressures workers face—on and off the jobsite.
Whether you’re on the front lines or in the boardroom, this episode will challenge how you see safety and connection in construction—and give you a reason to get involved.
🔗 Learn more: preventconstructionsuicide.com📲 Follow CIASP on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook for weekly updates.]]></itunes:summary>
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