Yeah, so I sell wild rags, which are cowboy neckerchiefs. I bought the business about three and a half years ago to be able to stay home with my three kids more often on the ranch. I was previously a teacher in our local school, only school in the county and it has about 55 students kindergarten through high school.

That is the grand old cowboy tradition. You didn't come in from somewhere else like so many of the school farms back in the old days, did you?

No, I grew up in Montana. I've been here all my life and don't ever plan on moving. And so how far away did you have to move when you went to the school there? I grew up in Billings, which is about two hours south of Winnet and my husband dragged me up here. We just had our sixth anniversary. So six and a half years ago we moved out here. And I never really felt grounded until I came out to the ranch the first time and I was like, I am never leaving. I have been able to replace my teaching salary completely. I package all of the scarves and all of my scarves come with a lifetime hem guarantee. All of my materials are domestically sourced. And so that's really great that I'm doing my part to keep our economy going.

Brandi Iverson with Montana Wild Rags. Catch our full interview on halebroadcasting.com or anywhere your favorite podcasts are found.

Yes sir, what I'm looking for in a saddle of course, you hit the nail right on the head and I want to find a top quality saddle made by a very reputable and very top quality saddle manufacturer. And the reason why is that they're generally going to work a little bit harder with the saddle tree manufacturers to make sure that all points of that saddle to be even. In other words, it's like everything else and you've got to start with a great foundation. That saddle tree is the absolute most important thing there. After that we want to make sure we're using top quality materials. The best leather possible, those are things I look for. But really what I'm looking for outside of those things, I'm looking for something that fits my task. I really have to ask myself, what am I going to be doing in my horse the most? If all I do is race, barrels and the barrel racer, then by God it might just pay for me to go find me a barrel race in the saddle as opposed to a cut and saddle. So I want to match the saddle to the task that suits my need.

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What kind of bit do you like to use, Van?

"Well, to me, I'm looking for something that's going to be extremely simple. I start all of my coats off. The first rides are usually with a halter and a lead rope and then I'll graduate to what I call a glorified loping hackamore, which is just a real simple one step above a halter. But the first bit I put in the horse's mouth is just a very simple smooth mouth snaffle. It's an offset D-ring snaffle. Well, I've got nothing against an O-ring snaffle. Almost every bit we ride a horse with outside of a snaffle is going to have some sort of straight edge on it on the corners of the horse's mouth. So if that's the case, I'm going to go with a mild bit of possibly cans that's got a straight edge on the side. There's probably not a better one out there that prepares my horse for the next bit, the transition bit that I would go to next. So what I tell folks to look for is this simplicity. Look for something very simple. Things that we know already work. Number one, smooth. I want smooth mouth because I don't want to flick more discomfort to a horse and this is what I absolutely have to. So I like a smooth mouth. First type of metal such as sweet iron seems to be very, very simple to a horse. It promotes salivation and it's porous enough that salivation isn't wasted, I guess you can say, for like a better turn. So I'll also look for enough smooth mouth snaffle that's with sweet iron metals. For my laziness aspect of it, I like for the cheap pieces to be stainless steel. And the reason I do is if they're quick and easy to clean, maintain a certain high appeal. And there's other bits out there that are pretty buggo that are stainless steel is just easiest and the quickest to keep clean. I like something like that. Again, just trying to keep my world simple as I possibly can for both of me and my horse."

Master Horseman and clinician Van Hargis.

Gosh Jack Brainerd is an interesting horseman, isn't he? He's probably in his 90s van but really an interesting individual.

"One of my little dreams come true. I had an opportunity to do a clinic with Jack. He had Abilene Texas several years ago, I'll tell you a little bit about Mr. Brainard and his attitude toward horsemanship. He was probably in his mid 80s at that time and we had the arena divided in half and I'm looking at one end of the arena. My students were down there and Jack was looking toward the other arena or toward the other direction of the arena. His students were down on that side and we were standing literally standing side by side. One of my students made some sort of deal and I yelled at them some instruction and I thought at first I must have said something wrong because I saw the corner of my eye. I saw Mr. Brainard shaking his head and I'm thinking, oh, I must have said something wrong."

"Mr. Brainard, what's on your mind?"

"He said, Van, you know, I'm just afraid I'm going to die before I learn everything about these darn horses that I want to learn."

"And at that point I was so humbled to sit there and think, here's a guy that's 86 years old, I think he was at the time who had probably trained more trainers than most of us have trained horses and yet he was still on that journey of learning and horsemanship to the point where he was concerned about not getting a chance to learn everything he wanted to learn. And that's when I realized, you know, at that point in time, you know, I've got a long way to go. We all, it's a never ending journey. It's a journey that yields nothing but happiness and success which stay on it and stay humble."

Texas clinician and trainer Van Hargis with the late Howard Hale. That's it for today's Horseman's Corner.

"For years I've earned a reputation of getting horses to be good stoppers at a fairly young age and people have always asked, well how do you get those little young horses to stop so big? And number one, I don't really work on it in particular, I just work on the basic fundamentals. Number one, I want every horse to understand first and foremost why they're going. It's less of all, you used to say all the time, you make them going and let them whoa. So I don't really force a horse or ask a horse to stop, I just simply let them. And number two, I really believe in what I refer to as my three steps to stopping, which is number one, quit making them go. Number two, the magic word, whoa. And then lastly, we support with our hands to reinforce what the first two things indicated. And then every time I back a horse up, I actually say whoa, and then I draw them backwards. Whoa, and then I draw them backwards. After about 30 rides or so, what whoa means to the horses back up. So now let's move forward to say you're loping them out. And then you say the magic word, whoa. Now what is a horse thinking? Not whoa, not stop, but they're thinking back up. But what have they got to do before they back up? They've got to stop. So to me, just working a lot of backing a horse up, working a lot on getting a horse very come about backing, both on the ground and in the saddle, and then reinforcing the word whoa when we go to back them up. And they stop thinking about what it is we're asking to do next, which is in this case, to back. Appreciate you guys. Until next time, this is Van Hargis with Van Hargis Horsemanship."

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I've been around horses my whole life, and then second is I love horses.

Now, both of those are important, right? But they're not really qualifiers. And what I mean by that is, is I'll just give you an example. My entire adult life, I've owned a welder because a lot of our equipment I hear at the ranch is metal. We've got pipe and sucker rod fencing for our horses. We've got a lot of metal things that we fix and we repair. And even though I've owned a welder my entire adult life, I would never insult the welder by calling myself a welder, even though I've owned one.

When I mention that to my students is that I'm not interested in how long you've been doing it. What I'm really interested in is how well you've performed while doing it. Have you developed your skills enough to where you are making progress toward becoming the horseman that you want to be? But it kind of goes for everybody. It doesn't really matter how long you've been doing something. That just shows that you've got either tremendous patience and or passion, which are both good.

Most importantly though is what have you learned along your journey? How can you perform that of which you've learned? So just take that tidbit, we didn't appreciate you guys. And until next time, this is Van Hargis with Van Hargis Horsemanship.

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"If you've opened a circle or you're in a spin, working a cow doesn't matter if you turn the left, you put your hand out there, his eye goes first and then his head. And that's extremely important because all other bits, it's the right eye that goes first and then he turns his head to the left. The best way you can ever work a horse is to have left work left and right work right."

"That's pretty amazing to know that when you learn to ride as a kid, they always tell you to look where you want to go. I'm pretty sure that if that works for us, it probably works for the horse too. So if his left eye doesn't go first, well then he's going to be delayed in his reaction."

"Oh boy, you've said it all right there, Nelseena. Not only do we have a snaffle bit, but I also found the machine that cuts out chains and we designed different shanks to go on the side of it so you can either have a slow release or a faster release or a medium release. It doesn't matter, but we've also got this mouthpiece of chains. So if I'll go to the website Campus Horse Training, that's where they'll find everything."

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Colorado horse trainer Mindy Bower.

Through the 1980s my parents had some financial hardships, our family was in danger of losing the farm. My family told me to pursue higher education and a career outside of farming. So I went on to be an airline pilot. I've been flying for UPS Airlines as a Boeing 747 captain for more than 30 years. But you know my heart never left the farming and ranching community. Twenty years ago talking to the other pilots they said, what are you going to do when you retire? And I said, well I'm going to get this big John Deere tractor and planter and be this random good Samaritan where I go around and help farm families that are having a difficult time. So one day I was visiting with a chaplain friend of mine and he encouraged me, Bill, don't wait for the future, do it now.

The challenges were huge in the beginning. I mean not just that we needed volunteers to be the boots on the ground but you know we needed to raise awareness spreading the word that Farm Rescue is for real and there's no catches that it's a free service and so with a handful of donors and volunteers we set out to help farm families.

Our 20th year anniversary at Farm Rescue means a great deal to me and the entire organization. To see the thousand volunteers come forward to help nearly 1200 farm families has been truly rewarding.

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Good morning everybody, this is Van Hargis with Van Hargis Horsemanship and welcome to the Ranch Road. Have you guys ever noticed what a horse does when it's in an area with a hot wire fence? I've seen horses walk over and accidentally touched the hot wire fence and the fence zaps them. It's nothing personal. There's no feelings involved. The fence just does its job and the horse respects that. Now when people ask me how do I get the horse to respect their personal space, the first thing I think of is be the hot wire fence. Nothing personal, no feelings involved. It's just that you're telling the horse where your boundaries are. You don't have to be harsh, you don't have to be mean, you just have to be consistent and persistent. So when the horse violates your space, just simply be the hot wire fence. Make your space uncoupled enough that they'll respect it and get out of it. But you've also got to be just as consistent as a hot wire fence, meaning that you can't sometimes ignore it and not be aware of the fact that the horse impeded on your boundary. You have to be very consistent and very persistent. And after a while the horse will respect your space and they don't fear you, they just respect you.

Texas Master Horseman and Clinician Van Hargis.

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Horse Trainer Ricky Quinn.

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In conjunction with the fund that is set up at the Oregon Trail Community Foundation in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, that one is also labeled the Sandhills Fire Relief Fund. And the United Way of Western Nebraska has announced that they can also get funds to individuals in need. There is an official Facebook page for that moral fire, the largest fire in Nebraska history. You can find it on our page pinned at the top. The Morrill Ffire, which started in Morrill County, Nebraska, has now burned over a half a million acres, is the largest fire in Nebraska history and could possibly break into the top 10 for largest fires in U.S. history.

The good guy is based on a grouch that I knew, a make him a rancher. And all the kids are based on, I was a school teacher for a while, all the kids are based on kids that I taught, change names and change the location in the year. But there are kids that I taught either in school or I taught at a boarding school for awhile. And you can have fun. The day to day villain in The Walking Why is a despicable SOB who abuses horses. The Senator is not going to get his hands dirty by using a gun or anything like that. He's much too elite for that. So he hires out the villain. So the day to day bad guy in here is any abuses of horses you said. And you see it in here. We got some for him too. Yeah, he doesn't make it too far in the next book. But you can have fun writing these. The opening scene is based on somebody is the third man sent to the hospital on the third Sunday in a row by the same horse. And that was inspired by the fact that on a ranch at the time called the company ranch, I was the third man on the third Sunday sent to the hospital by the same horse. And so finally, Cass comes off.

I said, who do I have?

He said, sorely.

Anybody rides sorely in that time span?

And he said, no....

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What we do is kind of narrow my favorite breeds down to the American Quarter Horse and the regular old Mustangs. It's kind of a mixture of what we've got. Those Mustangs are tough and they go like crazy and the kids can break them and ride them and use them for ranch horses. But they are not the athlete that an American Quarter Horse is when it comes to the rodeo events and team rope and that we like to do in the arena. So everything's got its place and we like our American Quarter Horse for our team rope and our rodeo event. And then for some of the ranch work, these kids sure have fun and do good on some of them hard-footed Mustangs. And Mustangs don't really stand up against the Quarter Horses. Not when it comes to athletic ability, speed, slide and stop and they just don't. They might walk faster like out on the ranch. They walk faster and be a little more sure-footed in the rocks. But just to be honest and realistic and we've tested it out, they just are not the athlete in the arena. They don't have the start and go and stop speed. Each has its place.

That was Ramzi Hughes from Anchor Brand Ranch with our co-host David Woodruff.

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When you're unsaddling your horse, that's the time to look for dry spots, rubbed hairs, soreness when you're brushing that horse's back off. I always like to use just a little alcohol and water or liniment on my horse's back as I brush off that sweat. And you know, you're a good sitting saddle with the right pad when you pull it off, should have an even sweat pattern. If you see white hair starting in an area up on that spine, it's pretty confident that it's a pressure point. When your horses quit working, when they're switching their tail, when they're grumpy, when their ears move, you need to listen to that horse. He's trying to tell you something and a lot of times you can fix it by just paying attention to quality of equipment. It's not how much you pay for it. It's really the fit. How it sits on that horse's back, the type of pad you're using. I said it earlier, I'm going to say it again. When you're around your horse, when you walk to the stall or the pasture to catch him, that's when you need to put your mind in the game.

California Horsewoman and trainer Sharon Camarillo.

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The best horse that I've ever took to the national finals, 7, this horse I bought from a cutting trainer, Leon Harold, when he was 3, he wasn't really broke. I got him broke. I was sending some cowboys on ranches to just put some miles on him. He's always a little volatile. My husband used to say if you ever get this one coming around he's going to be a good one but take a deep seat in the far away look. In the meantime, as a 5-year-old he's still trotting through the barrels and if you didn't cue him and show him he just trot on by. I thought, man, this is dumbest horse I've ever seen. I can't even sell him because he's not very smart. I had a horse that I was running. The horse got sick before we went to a big rodeo here in California, Salinas. So instead of turning out, I put this colt in and at that point the colt was 7. I always laugh when the horses are 3, 4, 5. I always say, well, you'll make a nice 7-year-old. This was a horse winning 7. I said he's going to make a nice 12-year-old.

That was California horsewoman and trainer, Sharon Camarillo.

A point to make is you see some barrel racing horses that may be really good. They walk out calm and comfortable. Then it's time to go and they run through their routine and then they come back and they turn it off and they're calm and they're comfortable again. Then you see these other ones that are so juiced up. I don't know. Parents tie that poor little girl like a monkey and she goes through the whole thing and then everybody has to calm that horse down afterwards. I've been asked to speak at race tracks because people have started to learn that a relaxed horse is actually a faster horse than a tense anxious horse because the muscles don't bunch up as much and sprinters as well. You know those guys who really run fast, they're actually relaxed and they're just taking these nice strides one after another. I think we do everybody a service by the rider being able to be comfortable and the horse being able to be comfortable and the more you can get in harmony in that synchrony going then you're not in your horse's way. Then you guys are talking the same language and that's kind of what we're hoping to do.

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Not really because that's one way that you know that people for years have talked about this. The funny thing is, there's different kinds of leaders. There may be that broodmare, that rules the roost around all the horses in the pasture, but you take that broodmare away from it, everybody else and it gets anxious and nervous and its identity is back taking care of the herd and they're all over the place. So a horse knows that we are not a horse. They know we are a predator. Really what we're looking for is more of a relationship than leadership. Leadership, yeah, in terms of you have to be the director and I think that may be a better term is that you know people think we have to teach so much to a horse. Horses know how already how to trot, how to gallop, how to side pass, they know how to do all that stuff. They can already do it. All we're doing is directing that energy.

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We got to keep 50 riders going and then the condition is that we have to ride these horses in whether it's outside or in that feed yard anywhere it's going to be tough to keep them sound. But no, we don't. But as many horses as we have, the kind of lameness that we have are very, very minor. We don't see a lot of long term joint trouble or that kind of stuff. If anything, it's little things and it's short term.

One thing that we do at our place is all the shoeing is in-house. I brought a friend of mine in from Oklahoma named Tommy Kilgore. He's been one of the best things for my life as far as knowledge on a horse. He's been really a big deal for me in understanding movement and understanding true soundness in a horse. And I brought him in and I've got two people that I work with, two younger guys that are mid-20s and they've taken into the shoeing. So all of that is done in-house.

Having that and being able to trim these horses and balance them the way we want to  balance them from an early age now all the way up into this five and six year old range when we start marketing those horses to the public. We have a really good idea what this horse is, what his soundness is, and we understand it at above normal level. So we give these horses the best shock we possibly can. And if we end up having a horse that's lame, it's usually a chronic thing that was going to happen anyway most of the time.

Absolutely. You bring those babies in, you ween them off their mom. First thing we do is toss a little rope around their neck, their foot, but just toss them that rope on there, start and roll the hind quarters in the beginning and allow them all the horses to learn how to come off of the feel to understand that that rope can touch them and it's not the end of the world and just start that mind kind of coming your direction. Working off of pressure, understanding a release of pressure, starting to get them to hunt that release and start drawing that mind in the direction you want it to go.

What age do you start working them?

They're born in May and they start getting halter broke sometime in the November timeframe. We'll be done halter breaking hopefully end of the December timeframe, take a couple months. Once we go through that process, they get bumped out. We'll bring them back in as two-year-olds, they have a crew of guys that come in December. They'll start anywhere from right around 40 head of colts in December as twos, put a handful of rides on them, they get kicked out. So then the threes from the previous year come in at the same time and then from then on they really kind of get camped on as three-year-olds and they get ridden and more moving forward with them into the five and six-year-old mark. So as a three-year-old, three and a half-year-old, they're getting used more, we start introducing to the feed yard, start introducing them to the outside ranching and then really by the time they're five and six they're pretty mature and they're working full-time.

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I get questions all the time, "Ricky, in your opinion what does it take to make a bridal horse?" I just kind of shrug my shoulders now where I am in my life and I'm like I don't know the answer to that. I don't, I mean because if you go and you talk to my friend Buck about it, he's pretty sophisticated in what he's looking for to make that horse a bridal horse in the movements that he wants, right? And then if you go talk to somebody who is a trail rider, they may not need to do a honch is in on the trail and if you go back to Brannaman and say well what do you think about a honch is in on the trail? You'll just kind of say well that just means your horse knows more, right? He's more of a sophisticated trail horse. Some people don't really necessarily want to go that far. So just being a good, solid, gentle horse that understands his jobs. And around about way what I'm saying, I love my foundation and I believe every horse needs to understand where it's tying feet are and how to work them, where it's front feet are and how to work them. They all need to walk trout lope on a loose range. They need to come down through the transitions on that loose range end of the stop. I think they should understand things like ropes and tarts so that they can handle some pressure in the world and just have a really, really good, solid foundation.

Horse Trainer Ricky Quinn.

And the other thing that I've got in my favor is the crew that I work with, they really do believe in it. And so when somebody new comes in that's kind of off the mark a little bit and they can kind of see through these people and those people really aren't into it and they're there for other reasons. It's really not even me that discourages that person. It's the rest of the crew. Because the rest of the crew's work so hard to get the death lost down and to get these cattle handling a certain way or to get these horses away, right? The people that are part of what we call the steerhead part of the place get a lot of these horses going and then they've got to go to the feed yard.  You know, we want that transition going into the feed yard. We want everybody working in the feed yard the same way that we're working at the arena and out on the ranches. And so that it's a seamless transition for the horses.

I wanted to ask you about your philosophy of working with horses. What we do are kind of narrow my favorite breeds down to the American Quarter Horse and the regular old mustangs. That's kind of a mixture of what we've got. Those mustangs are tough and they go like crazy and the kids can break them and ride them and use them for ranch horses. But they are not the athlete that an American Quarter Horse is when it comes to the rodeo events and team roping that we like to do in the arena. So everything's got its place and we like our American Quarter Horse for our team roping and our rodeo event. And then for some of the ranch work, these kids sure have fun and do good on some of them hard-footed mustangs. And the mustangs don't really stand up against the Quarter Horses. Not when it comes to athletic ability, speed, slide and stop and they just don't. They might walk faster like out on the ranch. They walk faster and be a little more sure-footed in the rocks.  But just to be honest and realistic and we've tested it out, they just are not the athlete in the arena. They don't have the start and go and stop speed. Each has its place.

That was Ramzi Hughes from Anchor Brand Ranch with our co-host David Woodruff.

I've seen some horses that have been drilled so much on the ground that they get to the point doing the same thing over and over where they basically have the handler tuned out. That's dangerous isn't it?

Yeah, that's very dangerous because you need that horse to be looking to you for direction. And when it's kind of zoning you out, it's on the borderline of self-preservation there. And if something goes wrong, you're maybe not the first choice it's going to have. Sometimes some of that can be overdone. Repetition's good, but it's really about, you can't do it day in and day out because the horse, some days he's in a different frame of mind. Maybe there's an owl hooting all night or something, he didn't sleep good. So you got to adjust to where he is that day. That was a big key I found in getting along with the horses. You can't go out there with a pre-described deal in your head that, well I'm going to get all this, I'm going to get my right lead master today and my left spin because he may not be there, you know, quite ready to absorb that.

That's Kansas Horseman Gary Kirkoff on the Horseman's Corner.

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Utah Horseman Jim Hicks on how he trains his horses to handle the situations that might be uncomfortable for them.

I want to create thinking horses that respond, that learn to think their way out of the problem versus horses that react and check out. And so what I have found for myself is that in doing that I need my horses familiar with the things that I'm going to expose them to so that when I expose them to things that they're unfamiliar with, that they'll work with me and we can work through it in a positive way.  This was a valuable lesson that I learned on the horse that I took to Tom Dorrance was is when you allow the horses curiosity to work for you, it's more powerful and more potent for the horse because what happens is you go out in the pasture and you intend to catch the horse, you might just sit there and look at the tail end up because you're trying to catch them. But if you walk out in the pasture with a bucket of tools and you set them down and you start doing the job, the horses curiosity will draw them in.

That was Utah Horseman and clinician Jim Hicks. That's going to do it for today's Horseman's Corner. Thanks again for listening and may God bless. I'm Brian Hale.

Well, Kevin, tell me a little bit about your podcast. What's your coverage? I'm just curious.

Well, my podcast is called Morning's on Horseback and it really kind of started out during COVID when everything was kind of shut down. We couldn't get horses in or out. A lot of our business comes from out of state for riding horses. We couldn't really gain anything in or out and I'd kind of been writing some stories anyway of my misspent life. I just thought, well, shoot, I've always kind of listened into podcasts, so let's do that. I started just telling stories and then it kind of turned into, I thought, well, here's a great opportunity for me to talk to some people. You and I grew up hearing stories about long dead heroes. Some first-hand stories, but we never recorded them and maybe a few people wrote them down. But here is our opportunity with the technology we have that we can get all this stuff down on tape. And I know a lot of the people I listen to are in the horse business more recreationally. And that's really where the horse business has turned, as you well know. And yeah, that was great to have an opportunity to talk to someone such as yourself. Tune in tomorrow for the other side of that conversation with Jim Hunt, a QHA director and Kevin Meyer from Morning's On Horseback.

The horses and cattle and our western lifestyle and the romance that lives with it. As you know, Dave, it's always been a passion of mine. I just grew up with that. We've been trying to build a small herd of cows and I was driving truck long hours to try and finance that. Starting colts at the same time when I was on the board of the BC Cattlemen's Association. At that time we're still fighting a lot of negative publicity about the industry that is not based in fact. I was in broadcasting before this and I felt with my background in the media and my lifestyle and the people I know, maybe I could put all of this together in a weekly hour long episode that would talk about the real things that make this way a life so great. Not just the business of the cattle industry, but the cowboy poets, the western musicians, the western artists, the soloists, the leather workers and all the rest of it. Because I don't know of any other industry that has such a wonderful connection with the arts as western life and cowboy life has. So we're in our 33rd year now.

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[Brian Hale] So have you ever wanted to get inside your horse's head? Here's Dr. Steve Peters with more.

[Steve Peters] Horses have an optimum range just like humans do of comfort in which they can learn. Now if they're too comfortable they're in a part of their nervous system where they're just not going to pay attention. You know they're going to look over the fence at their buddies, they're going to graze, they're going to have their heads down. A little bit of arousal, what we call sympathetic arousal, make them alert. But if you go beyond that you're going to start to kick in self-preservation and they'll tune you out. Well I think for years what we did is that we didn't pay much attention to that and as the whole, you know like Granddad said don't let that horse win, you know go back there and make them do it, that horse just pretty much did it but it tuned you out and it really wasn't learning. You know and so Martin got in the habit of really saying okay this horse is not really where I want him right now and it seems like we're reaching a point of diminishing returns. Heck I'll just pick this up in the morning. 

[Brian Hale]  That was equine psychologist Dr. Steve Peters on the Horseman's Corner. There's more on the web at horsemanscorner.com including our long version of this interview and more. And you can also do a search on our agricultural search engine for more information at Agsearch.us. Two great websites for more equine information horseman's corner.com and agsearch.us. That's it for today's horseman's corner. Thanks again for listening and may God bless. I'm Brian Hale.

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So Mindy, when it comes to buying a horse, does it matter if it gets along with your herd?

"If they fit in smoothly I know that well the other horses like them so they must be okay. So that's always a good thing to see. And that's the other thing about looking at horses to buy. You know I really want, like I have this walking horse that I've got right now, he is horrible with the other horses. So I feel like that kind of relates to how he is to ride. He feels very pushy and he's a little bit reactive and he's not a real settled horse. And the herd does not like him. Like when he gets out there he's trying to get up to the number one spot and they're pretty mad at him. So even though he's kind of a bully he gets chased like unbelievably. So you know until that goes away I know that I'm probably not that important to him. He has to figure out where he stands and not heard. But that's one thing too I think you don't get the chance to look at a horse in a herd situation. Which I think that would be a really important thing. Well, how does this horse do with other horses?"

Great information from Colorado horse trainer Mindy Bower. For more on that extended podcast visit horsemanscorner.com. That's going to do it for today's program. Thanks again for listening and may God bless. I'm Brian Hale.

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Let's continue that conversation with Brenda Beeson, Western Cattle Source Crawford, Nebraska.

What kind of horses are you offering in your March 20th sale?

"I have four horses, one rider on there. All these colts are sired by my stud, Frenchmans Cruz. And like I said, I got the one rider, coming two year old, and two yearlings on the sale."

So again, that's March 20th. That's at the ranch, Western Cattle Source in Crawford, Nebraska.

"Yes, it's a five miles north, three west of Crawford here at the ranch. One of my brood mares is out of a full sib to PCFRENCHMANSLISBET, which was full sister to BOZO. That's the mother of one of my mares. And I feel like some really high caliber quality brood mares that these colts are out of, and by."

Congratulations on the success at that level. That must be pretty thrilling.

"Yes, it is. It's been fun and a challenge. And you know, at first you kind of question whether it was working or paying off when you started, and now been in it now, seriously in it, for a little over 10 years now. And you know, I'm starting to see it pay off and see these horses go out and perform and work for other people and do good. So that's been the really cool part is seeing these colts go out and see other customers have success with them."

Brenda Beeson, Western Cattle Source, Crawford, Nebraska.

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That's Annette Coker, a world-class trainer in several arenas. If you don't know who I'm talking about, keep listening to the Horseman's Corner and you'll learn more about Annette Coker and her partner Kevin Meyer. Mantz Creek Horses is located in Douglas, Wyoming where they are passionate about breeding, raising, developing and connecting with great horses. At Mantz Creek Horses, great horsemanship goes far beyond what you do when you ride.

Visit MantzCreekHorses.com to read what people who have worked with Annette have to say. We personally know Annette and Kevin and have been to their ranch. We've seen their progress, we know their experience and we see especially the result of a great breeding program and excellent horsemanship.  And she has two really good looking horses for sale. Two Geldings ready to go, one Gypsy Vanner and another good all-around horse that would work perfect as a rider. You can find a link to Mantz Creek Horses right on our website at horsemanscorner.com. 

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