Face in Hat

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

The Family: A Proclamation to the World

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world

Raising Kids and Running a Household: How Working Parents Share the Load

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/11/04/raising-kids-and-running-a-household-how-working-parents-share-the-load/

Almost 1 in 5 stay-at-home parents in the U.S. are dads

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/03/almost-1-in-5-stay-at-home-parents-in-the-us-are-dads/

The Proclamation on Wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family:_A_Proclamation_to_the_World

7.11 Camelot’s Road

Sun, 22 Mar 2026 21:50:22 -0600

In the 1970s, Leonard Arrington formed an enclave of church scholars and historians that had such an open attitude of research and discovery that they called it Camelot. By the early 90s, attitudes had shifted greatly against these “so-called” intellectuals, and not just them but also feminists and LGBTQ groups. The road from Camelot had many twists and turns. Join us as we read the next chapter of American Zion, “Fault Lines, 1970-1995.”

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

Leonard J. Arrington

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_J._Arrington

Likely the quote about false robes of the priesthood is not Packer but Nibley?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSjE2Ks38uE&t=1s

September Six

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_Six

For more info on President Oak’s comments on religious freedom and past and present policies, see Nathan Oman’s book!

Living Oracles: Law and the Latter-day Saint Tradition, by Nathan B. Oman

https://www.amazon.com/Living-Oracles-Latter-day-Saint-Tradition/dp/0197825818

He also gave a talk recently!

https://vimeo.com/1171661828

Lester E. Bush Jr.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_E._Bush_Jr.

The big article on the priesthood ban in Dialog, by Lester E. Bush

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V08N01_13.pdf

Zootopia Exposed! (Part Two)

https://overcast.fm/+AA5IlBTodVE

LDS Genesis Group

https://www.ldsgenesisgroup.org/

Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_Thatcher_Ulrich

Carol Lynn Pearson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Lynn_Pearson

Fascinating Womanhood

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascinating_Womanhood

The God Makers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Makers

Saturday’s Warrior

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday%27s_Warrior

Added Upon: A Story, by Nephi Anderso

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1508762.Added_Upon

Moral Majority

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Majority

Woman’s Exponent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman%27s_Exponent

Exponent II

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponent_II

Equal Rights Amendment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment

Solus, by Anonymous

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/solus/

“Well behaved women rarely make history”, quote by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_Thatcher_Ulrich#.22Well-behaved_women_seldom_make_history.22

A House Full of Females, by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_House_Full_of_Females

Phyllis Schlafly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schlafly

Sonia Johnson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Johnson

Crossing the Rubicon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Rubicon

The Miracle of Forgiveness, by Spencer W. Kimball

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracle_of_Forgiveness

The band Eric mentioned, fronted by Amy Gileadi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunfall_Festival

Margaret Merrill Toscano work on Dialogue

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/dialogue-journal-authors/margaret-merrill-toscano/

Strengthening Church Members Committee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strengthening_Church_Members_Committee

7.10 Year end loose ends (martyrdom, polygamy, and the drawn sword)

Tue, 30 Dec 2025 13:54:17 -0600

End of the year show! We cover topics from the tail end of the Doctrine and Covenants that have been kicking around in our heads. We’ll be back next year continuing with more of American Zion!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

Berkeley Ward Centennial

https://berkeleyward.org/100/

D&C 135

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/135?lang=eng

Praise to the Man, Hymn 27

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/music/songs/praise-to-the-man?lang=eng

Original lyrics of Praise to the Man

https://bhroberts.org/records/6kQ26b-UhyHjb/lyrics_to_joseph_smith_praise_to_the_man_originally_published_in_1844

More on the conspiracy against Joseph being infiltrated in the book Saints:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1/43-a-public-nuisance?lang=eng#p21

Joseph and Emma Grow Old Together, by Eric Jepson

https://lit.mormonartist.net/2018/06/joseph-and-emma-grow-old-together-by-eric-jepson/

Culprit (single) by LOYAL WIFE. Check this out, it’s awesome!

https://sunsetalliance.bandcamp.com/album/culprit-single

Official Declaration 1

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/od/1?lang=eng

The Messenger and the Manifesto, by Jed Woodworth

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/revelations-in-context/the-messenger-and-the-manifesto?lang=eng

Episode 1.8, Polygamy’s Ghost

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/

Seminary manual, Doctrine and Covenants 132:1–2, 34–66, Plural Marriage

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/doctrine-and-covenants-seminary-teacher-manual-2025/453-doctrine-and-covenants-132-1-2-34-66?lang=eng

Polygamy google search

https://www.google.com/search?q=was+polygamy+a+commandment+lds

Newsroom link: Polygamy: Latter-day Saints and the Practice of Plural Marriage

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/polygamy-latter-day-saints-and-the-practice-of-plural-marriage

Fanny Alger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny_Alger

Lots of details on Fanny Alger on fairlatterdaysaints.org:

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Joseph_Smith/Polygamy/Plural_wives/Fanny_Alger/Discovered_in_a_barn

Encouraging Joseph Smith to Practice Plural Marriage: The Accounts of the Angel with a

Drawn Sword, by Brian C. Hales

https://ensignpeakfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Encouraging-Joseph-Smith-to-Practice-Plural-Marriage-The-Accounts-of-the-Angel-with-a-Drawn-Sword.pdf

Statement on Polygamy by Brian C. Hales

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/testimonies/scholars/brian-c-hales

Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Elizabeth_Rollins_Lightner

A note about “Father, Mother, Mother, and Mom”, Orson Scott Card’s musical about polygamy, is on his wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Scott_Card_bibliography#Plays

A pdf version is available!

https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/006-f1-f16.pdf

Pop Culture on the Apricot Tree, a podcast dedicated to discussing pop culture from a Latter-day Saint perspective

https://www.popcultureapricottree.com/

7.9 History is Fascinating

Sat, 20 Dec 2025 15:15:51 -0600

Back to American Zion! Today we look at the chapter “One Family Under God”, 1945-70. Themes of civil rights, womanhood, and intellectualism are brought together as we look deeper at the post-WWII world of Mormonism!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

Berkeley Ward Centennial

https://berkeleyward.org/100/

Sterling McMurrin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_M._McMurrin

Joseph Fielding Smith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Fielding_Smith

Man, His Origin and Destiny, by Joseph Fielding Smith, is discussed here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_views_on_evolution#Joseph_Fielding_Smith

J. Edward Johnson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edward_Johnson

Free Speech Movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Speech_Movement

Hugh Nibley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Nibley

No Man Knows My History, by Fawn M. Brodie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Man_Knows_My_History

No, Ma'am, That's Not History, by Hugh Nibley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No,_Ma%27am,_That%27s_Not_History

The Mountain Meadows Massacre (1950) by Juanita Brooks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mountain_Meadows_Massacre_(book)

Mormon Doctrine (book), by Bruce R. McConkie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Doctrine_(book)

The Giant Joshua, by Maurine Whipple

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giant_Joshua

Too sacred for public consumption -or- Disgusting the prophet’s wife, by Eric Jepson

https://motleyvision.org/2009/07/09/too-sacred-for-public-consumption-or-disgusting-the-prophets-wife/

Eugene England

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_England

Truman G. Madsen (includes note he directed the Berkeley LDS Institute of Religion)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truman_G._Madsen

Preliminary work from the author of the dissertation mentioned

https://latterdatasaints.org/author/elena/

Example, A Timeline of LDS Sunday School Manuals: 1972-Present, by Elena H. Call:

https://latterdatasaints.org/a-timeline-of-lds-sunday-school-manuals-1972-present/#more-1260

Elias: An Epic of the Ages, by Orson F. Whitney

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias:_An_Epic_of_the_Ages

Short Creek raid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Creek_raid

The big article on the priesthood ban in Dialog, by Lester E. Bush

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V08N01_13.pdf

Truth & Treason (2025 movie)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_%26_Treason

Zelophehad’s Daughters

https://zelophehadsdaughters.com/

Helen Andelin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Andelin

Fascinating Womanhood, by Helen Andelin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascinating_Womanhood

The Feminine Mystique, by Betty Friedan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feminine_Mystique

The Stepford Wives (2004 film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stepford_Wives_(2004_film)

Indian Placement Program

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Placement_Program

The Night Watchman, by Louise Erdrich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Watchman_(novel)

(atonement poem), by Theric Jepson

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/atonement-poem/

7.8 Interregnum hot takes

Sat, 18 Oct 2025 14:46:24 -0600

With the rest of the church we mourn the passing of President Nelson. In this show we look back on his life and we talk about the future, including chatting about President Oak’s October 2025 conference talk. The decision to focus on birthrates was interesting, so that prompted a deep dive, from Saturday’s Warrior to South Korea. Would love to hear your own takes!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_M._Nelson

President Russel M. Nelson wiki

President Russell M. Nelson on the Healing Power of Gratitude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i51gcWCs-Ho

An Interview With Gordon Hinckley by Mike Wallace

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-interview-with-gordon-hinckley/

President Dallin H. Oaks wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallin_H._Oaks

Carthage Conspiracy, by Dallin H. Oaks and Marvin S. Hill

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage_Conspiracy

Legal Eagle

https://www.youtube.com/legaleagle

Truth & Treason (2025 movie)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_%26_Treason

The Family-Centered Gospel of Jesus Christ, by President Dallin H. Oaks, President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2025/10/58oaks

The End of Children, by Gideon Lewis-Kraus

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/03/03/the-population-implosion

Sex Without Women, What happens when men prefer porn? By Caitlin Flanagan

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/03/sex-without-women/682064/?gift=7Dmgya6WfQQSjX_hzD7e6JS-14VnM4BwMPCcn3UgkUM&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

What Women Wish They’d Known Before Trying to Get Pregnant. Many Americans lack basic fertility knowledge. More robust sex ed could help. By Olga Khazan

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2025/09/sex-ed-school-fertility/684079/?gift=7Dmgya6WfQQSjX_hzD7e6N-IKckFrqX-zdDLAPsolPM&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Zero Population

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZHlEYgiM08

Saturday's Warrior

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday%27s_Warrior

The Population Bomb, by Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Population_Bomb

2.1 Millennial musings: this is our early take on overpopulation, and cites the first Kurzgesagt video

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/21-millennial-musings/

Overpopulation – The Human Explosion Explained, Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348

Why Humans Are Vanishing, Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBudghsdByQ

SOUTH KOREA IS OVER, Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufmu1WD2TSk

7.7 Modernity vs. retrenchment

Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:14:59 -0600

We’re back from summer and let's keep this season going! Today we focus on Chapter 6, The Perils of Reform: 1920-1945, from Benjamin Park’s book: American Zion. Many threads connect the topics, but the contest between the modernity of the early part of the 20th century and resistance to change mark the struggle for the LDS church at this time. Join us!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

Amy B. Lyman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_B._Lyman

D&C 29:34,”Wherefore, verily I say unto you that all things unto me are spiritual, and not at any time have I given unto you a law which was temporal”

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/29#34

J. Reuben Clark

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Reuben_Clark

Our David O’McKay season was actually season 3! Here’s an example episode, with topics on politics and such. 3.4 David O. McKay and the confrontation with communism

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/34-david-o-mckay-and-the-confrontation-with-communism/

John Birch Society

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society

No wiki on Nephi Johnson, but lots of articles out there on him :)

Juanita Brooks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Brooks

The Mountain Meadows Massacre (book)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mountain_Meadows_Massacre_(book)

3.13 Close to home: the Church Building Program

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/313-close-to-home-the-church-building-program/

3.11 Poetry, Spies, and the Church Education System

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/311-poetry-spies-and-the-church-education-system/

B. H. Roberts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._H._Roberts

Studies of the Book of Mormon, by B. H. Roberts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_of_the_Book_of_Mormon

“Now, if you mean it-I am not going to give any command, but I will ask it as a personal, individual favor to me, to let coca-cola alone. There are plenty of other things you can get at the soda fountains without drinking that which is injurious. The Lord does not want you to use any drug that creates an appetite for itself.” -Heber J Grant, April 1921

https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8061

Heber J Grant: stories of baseball and penmanship are here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heber_J._Grant

Welfare and Self Reliance

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/topic/welfare-and-self-reliance

Fawn M. Brodie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawn_M._Brodie

3.7 Tolerance: this might be the episode where we talked about David O’Mckay and Fawn Brodie

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/37-tolerance/

“$32 million deficit in 1962”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints

Saints, Volume 3, Boldly, Nobly, and Independent, 1893–1955

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v3

The Mormon Typology: Mapping a Changing Faith

https://mormonmetrics.substack.com/p/the-mormon-typology-mapping-a-changing

Another Data Source Confirms Typology Findings

https://mormonmetrics.substack.com/p/multiple-data-sources-confirm-typology

Thubrina, by Theric Jepson

https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/thubrina/f0c86c78-3b42-35b0-afdf-40d6b81d25db.html

7.6 Progress and compromise

Sun, 18 May 2025 16:12:57 -0600

1890-1920 was a period of great progress among the LDS Saints but came with key compromises that began the assimilation of LDS culture and into the broader American people. Join us as we look at this era, continuing our trip through American Zion by Benjamin Park!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

Letter to the Editor: Reconciliation and Truth, by Robert A. Rees

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/letter-to-the-editor-reconciliation-and-truth/

Jesus the Christ, by James E. Talmage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_the_Christ_(book)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/jesus-the-christ?lang=eng

Articles of Faith, by James E. Talmage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Faith_(Talmage_book)

The Great Apostasy, by James E. Talmage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Apostasy_(book)

The House of the Lord, by James E. Talmage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_of_the_Lord

Ten Thousand, xkcd

http://xkcd.com/1053/

Jane Manning James (wiki article)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Manning_James

Jane Elizabeth Manning James (LDS article)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/jane-elizabeth-manning-james

Jane and Emma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_and_Emma

They stole Yogi Berra’s World Series rings. Then they did something really crazy, by Ariel Sabar

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/02/sports-memorabilia-heist-yogi-berra-world-series-rings/681093/

On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century, by Timothy Snyder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Tyranny

Ephesians 2:19

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/eph/2?lang=eng&id=p19#p19

Seer stone (Latter Day Saints)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seer_stone_(Latter_Day_Saints)

D&C 138

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/138

The Truth of a Dream: A Conversation with Theric Jepson, on the Dialogue Out Loud podcast

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/the-truth-of-a-dream-a-conversation-with-theric-jepson/

I Dreamed of Oil, by Theric Jepson

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/i-dreamed-of-oil/

7.5 Straight to jail

Sat, 22 Mar 2025 12:26:05 -0600

Run and hide! Today we jump into the 1870s and 80s to see what made our beloved ancestors be so eager to ditch the law and go underground. (Spoilers, it’s more polygamy!). Part of our ongoing series covering American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

A Mormon Maid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Mormon_Maid

Emmeline B. Wells

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmeline_B._Wells

Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/

Polygamy (Polygyny, Polyandry), by Miriam Koktvedgaard Zeitzen

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781118924396.wbiea1377

Find Randy Astle on the AML Discord server! Eric can spot you an invite. AML:

https://www.associationmormonletters.org/

7.4 The Big 3 in 1850

Thu, 20 Feb 2025 20:24:03 -0600

Polygamy, Racism and Indian affairs. These stories dominated Chapter 3 of American Zion by Benjamin E. Park, “Of empires and wars, 1846-69”. Come for the historical controversy but stay for the good vibes at the end!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

Pioneer Children sang as they walk, words and music by: Elizabeth Fetzer Bates

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/music/songs/pioneer-children-sang-as-they-walked

Legacy (1993)

https://youtu.be/TZALT-fK9Ao?si=vN-6uAZMRRW485dD

Walker Lewis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_Lewis

Chief Walkara

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkara

The Angel (2024), directed by Barrett Burgin, Jess Burgin

https://letterboxd.com/film/the-angel-2024/

Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/

Commentary: New LDS curriculum flops in teaching eternal polygamy to children, by Carol Lynn Pearson

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/13/new-lds-curriculum-flops-teaching/

Emmeline B. Wells

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmeline_B._Wells

(Aaron) Note the comment on Emmeline changing her mind was actually in relation to Emily Dow Partridge (note the redirects if you click on this link)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily%20Dow%20Partridge?redirect=no

Phoebe Pendleton Woodbury: not a lot of her online. Dr. Park is citing letters to her children

Into the Headwinds: Why Belief Has Always Been Hard―and Still Is, by Terryl Givens and Nathaniel Givens

https://a.co/d/59qRjS1

(Aaron) Couldn’t find the tiger roar/rattlesnake article :)

You are Two, by CGP Grey

https://youtu.be/wfYbgdo8e-8?si=Z1qkIrKNMLMJL3K_

Episode 5.4 Agency and its opposition

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/54-agency-and-its-opposition/

Moroni: a brief theological introduction (The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions 12), by David F Holland

https://a.co/d/7lkNflh

After transcribing 1.2 million of his words, this researcher has something to say about Brigham Young, by Jacob Hess, about LaJean Purcell Carruth

https://www.deseret.com/faith/2024/10/10/new-discoveries-about-brigham-young/

Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-brigham-young

Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show)

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/

7.3 Zion (not the Matrix one), Part 2

Mon, 23 Dec 2024 13:52:51 -0600

“O My Father”, and the Council of Fifty! Let’s wrap up chapter 2 of “American Zion” in a quick show for the end of the year!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

Eliza R. Snow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_R._Snow

“Invocation, or The Eternal Father and Mother” or “O my father”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_My_Father

Testimony in Art: John Hafen's Illustrations for “O My Father”, by Dawn Pheysey

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/byusq/vol36/iss1/5/

John Hafen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hafen

A Little Lower than the Angels, by Virginia Sorensen

https://www.amazon.com/Little-Angels-Signature-Morman-Classics/dp/1560851031

Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/

Hosea Stout

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosea_Stout

Council of Fifty, Church History topic

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/council-of-fifty

Council of Fifty on wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Fifty

Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show)

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/

7.2 Zion (not the Matrix one), Part 1

Sat, 07 Dec 2024 16:03:10 -0600

Part one of our journey through Chapter 2 of Dr. Benjamin Park’s book, “American Zion”, “The Voice of the People,1831-46.” This history is a rollercoaster of emotion! Also, we have just so many show notes. Check them out and be sure to join us on Discord!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

Not a lot about Laura Hubble out there, but this Historical Introduction to D&C 43 seems relevant:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/church-historians-press/jsp-revelations/dc-043-1831_02_01_000

Peter Kerr (Black Pete)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kerr_(priest)

Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/

Carol Lynn Pearson, Radiant Mormonism Award, recorded by Paris Fox

https://vimeo.com/1018163129

Saints Volume 1, The Standard of Truth, 1815–1846

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1

Century of Black Mormons

https://exhibits.lib.utah.edu/s/century-of-black-mormons/page/welcome

Missouri Executive Order 44

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Executive_Order_44

Related to the ‘am I better for suffering’ section of the pod: Opinion | A man at work, A half century of George Will

https://wapo.st/4g7HdgJ

Quote: “In “The Roosevelts,” George, the conservative thinker, found empathy at the core of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal. “Polio gave FDR the gift of empathy. There was no suffering that he could not in some sense relate to,” George explained. “Just as the irons were clapped on his legs, the steel entered his soul by having to fight through the constant pain of therapy that was unforgiving in its demands and not very fulfilling in its success.””

Episode 1.2 Theodicy and the Red Ball

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-2-theodicy-and-the-red-ball/

Not sure about the last Shaker Eric mentioned, but this is probably relevant: There Are Only Two Shakers Left. They’ve Still Got Utopia in Their Sights, by Jordan Kisner

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/magazine/shakers-utopia.html

James 1: 5-6

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%201%3A5-6&version=KJV

Tumult of opinions quote is from Joseph Smith - History:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1#p10

Oakland Stake First Vision Lecture Series - Eric Jepson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFSicnZ3B3k

Wiki on Limbo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo

(Really enjoyed finding this -Aaron) Comparison of the texts of Doctrine and Covenants 76 and Joseph Smith’s poetic rendition of The Vision, Courtesy of Dr. Lawrence Flake from his book “Three Degrees of Glory”

https://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~clement/rel325/vision-poem.pdf

The Drowned World, by J. G. Ballard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Drowned_World

Revised Plat of the City of Zion, circa Early August 1833

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/revised-plat-of-the-city-of-zion-circa-early-august-1833/1

The Maine story might have been Vermont, see Building Zion: the controversial plan for a Mormon-inspired city in Vermont, by Claire Provost

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/jan/31/building-zion-controversial-plan-mormon-inspired-city-vermont

Defunctland: Walt Disney's City of the Future, E.P.C.O.T.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKYEXjMlKKQ

Wiki on the Book of Commands mentions the teenage sisters Caroline and Mary Elizabeth Rollins who saved the “remnants of nearly 100 copies” from an anti-Mormon fire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Commandments

Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show)

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/

7.1 A Visionary Nation

Tue, 29 Oct 2024 21:41:12 -0600

Welcome to season 7! We are starting by reviewing the Prologue and Chapter 1 of Dr. Benjamin Park’s book, “American Zion”. The first single volume history of the Church in over a decade, and taking advantage of new sources, it’s an excellent way to get some good old Mormon history. This was fun!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

Parks and Recollection, with Jim O’Heir and Greg Levine

https://teamcoco.com/podcasts/parks-and-recollection

Saints, Volume 1, The Standard of Truth, 1815–1846

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1

History of Joseph Smith by His Mother, by Lucy Mack Smith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Joseph_Smith_by_His_Mother

Thomas B. Griffith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_B._Griffith

The Book of Mormon (musical)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Mormon_(musical)

Alexander Campbell (minister)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Campbell_(minister)

Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber

https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/

James 1:5

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/james/1#p5

Burned-over district

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burned-over_district

The Glass Looker: The Collected Tales of Joseph Smith, by Mark Elwood

https://theglasslooker.com/

Hero's journey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey

An Interview With Gordon Hinckley, by Mike Wallace (this includes the boat and garments story)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-interview-with-gordon-hinckley/

William Apess

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Apess

6.9 Movie Night

Sat, 24 Aug 2024 12:23:09 -0600

Settle in for Movie Night! Aaron and Eric each picked movies that they argued had LDS or interesting religious themes. Do you agree or have other picks? Let us know on discord!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://web.archive.org/web/20050612235541/http://www.adherents.com/people/pl/George_Lucas.html

The Religious Affiliation of Director George Lucas

But hey, there is an LDS connection to George Lucas! From the article:

“Lucas eventually came to state that his religion was "Buddhist Methodist." Gary Kurtz, a Latter-day Saint who had studied Comparative Religion extensively in college and on his own, was pivotal in introducing Lucas to Eastern religions (particularly Buddhism) and Native American religion, and discussing with Lucas how best to improve "Star Wars" by giving it a believable but sufficiently universal religious underpinning. Kurtz was the producer of "Star Wars" and "The Empire Strikes Back" and also did some work on the "Star Wars" screenplay.”

Linked to from his wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lucas#Personal_life

Contact (1997 American film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(1997_American_film)

https://www.amazon.com/Contact-Jodie-Foster/dp/B001AH6ZWY

Hercules (1997 film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_(1997_film)

https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-ae19dd2f-a945-442b-a18e-d57fa8f5091f

Eastern Orthodox and Divinization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divinization_(Christian)#Eastern_Orthodox

Relevant older Face in Hat episode, “5.2 Divinization and Deity”:

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/52-divinization-and-deity/

The Tree of Life (film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tree_of_Life_(film)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B005UKJX4E

“Rituals themselves are actually very boring. They go on and on, beyond your secular tolerance” (The Power of Myth, by Joseph Campbell).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Myth

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Myth-Joseph-Campbell/dp/0385418868

Quoted in Why Myth?, by John Bonaduce

https://www.jcf.org/post/why-myth

Aphasia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphasia

Aphantasia (includes the apple chart for degree of mental visualization)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia

Eric may have been referring to this podcast: “The human brain is hardwired to recognize faces. But what if you can't?”, by Emily Kwong, Rachel Carlson, and Rebecca Ramirez

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/1198910315/face-blindness-prosopagnosia-memory-aphantasia-sight-imagination

Fred Rogers Acceptance Speech - 1997, The Emmy Awards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upm9LnuCBUM

Wreck-it Ralph 1 and 2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wreck-It_Ralph

https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-0cde80b0-5085-447b-b65e-c81a713a90f0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Breaks_the_Internet

https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-4f2c48ef-b3f9-4422-9feb-011a17ff2afb

The Official Disney Princess Rules, Explained, by Micaela Pérez Vitale and Samuel Cormier

https://movieweb.com/official-disney-princess-rules/

Navigating Mental Health Comedy with Conservative Parents, Taylor Tomlinson

https://www.tiktok.com/@taylortomlinsoncomedy/video/7288425135990770990

Shanghai Express (film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Express_(film)

Coco (2017 film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_(2017_film)

https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-ce1ccdca-f468-4960-b67c-026b01ba42ab

Angels and Seerstones: A Latter Day Saint Folklore Podcast, by Christopher James Blythe and Christine Elyse Blythe

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/angels-and-seerstones-a-latter-day-saint-folklore-podcast/id1693940296

The Tale of the Princess Kaguya (film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Princess_Kaguya_(film)

https://www.amazon.com/Tale-Princess-Kaguya-English-Language/dp/B0817R94P8

The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Bamboo_Cutter

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

6.8 Jarom and living in the middle

Sun, 12 May 2024 22:37:10 -0600

Today we chat about prophecy, the book of Jarom, and what it means for us to be living in the middle. We draw especially on Sharon J. Harris’s brief theological introduction to Enos, Jarom, Omni. Check it out!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/jarom/1

The Book of Jarom

Enos, Jarom, Omni: A Brief Theological Introduction, by Sharon J. Harris

https://www.amazon.com/Enos-Jarom-Omni-theological-introduction/dp/0842500154

Wiki: patriarchal blessing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarchal_blessing

Irreantum: Stories from the Blue Cherubim

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/21-2-top/

D&C 51:16-17, “…act upon this land as for years…”:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/51?id=p16-17#16

Tales from Pleasant Grove, by Steven L. Peck

https://www.amazon.com/Tales-Pleasant-Grove-Steven-Peck/dp/1986604233

No link to the Elder Holland story, it’s something Eric heard on the radio. If someone has a better reference, send it in!

The Hugh B. Brown story can be found in From the East: The History of the Latter-Day Saints in Asia, 1851-1996, by R. Lanier Britsch

https://www.amazon.com/East-History-Latter-Day-Saints-1851-1996/dp/1573452688

Living “as Though” God’s Promises Have Been Fulfilled, by Lori Newbold

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/2022/02/living-as-though-gods-promises-have-been-fulfilled

The Path and the Gate: Mormon Short Fiction, edited by Andrew Hall, Robert Raleigh, with contribution from Eric Jepson

https://www.amazon.com/Path-Gate-Mormon-Short-Fiction/dp/1560854677

$1 in 1844 money is $41.64!

The Moneyball connection! Retroactively, Aaron remembered the song In Moneyball sung by Kerris Dorsey is a Lenka song, "The Show", which includes the line “I'm just a little bit caught in the middle”. Eh? Totally works!

6.7 Women and Priesthood, Part 3

Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:24:51 -0600

The recent Worldwide Relief Society Devotional was awesome! One quote caused a bit of a kerfuffle, which sets the stage for part 3 of our series on women and priesthood. But the devotional really was great! Go watch it! And also listen to this episode :)

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/event/worldwide-relief-society-devotional-2024

Worldwide Relief Society Devotional

Accessing God’s Power through Covenants, by J. Anette Dennis, First Counselor in the Relief Society General Presidency

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/broadcasts/language-recording/2024/02/14dennis

Midwife of The Wild Frontier, by Melissa Tyler (Author) and Luciana Maruca (Illustrator)

https://amzn.to/3PO0RUh

Instagram post with quote on women, power, and authority

https://www.instagram.com/churchofjesuschrist/p/C4oZ-otMOVL/

Twitter thread on YW fundraiser

https://twitter.com/sunday_southern/status/1770885870847250553

LDS Church gives more power to women than any other religious organization, leader declares, by Tamarra Kemsley

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2024/03/17/lds-church-gives-more-power-women/

The Emotional and Priestly Logic of Plural Marriage" (2009), by Kathleen Flake. Utah State University Press, Arrington Annual Lecture. Paper 15

https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/arrington_lecture/15

The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions Boxed Set, including Jacob: A Brief Theological Introduction, by Deidre Nicole Green

https://amzn.to/49rsnhp

Barred by Congress: How a Mormon, a Socialist, and an African American Elected by the People Were Excluded from Office, by Robert M. Lichtman

https://amzn.to/3Ufp3Sh

6.6 Women and Priesthood, Part 2

Sat, 23 Mar 2024 12:45:15 -0600

Credit, authority, the danger of hierarchies, and how Jewish whiskey relates to fiction, equity, and legislation. Join us in our second of a multipart series on women and the priesthood.

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://web.archive.org/web/20140223100456/https://difficultrun.nathanielgivens.com/2014/01/20/a-companion-meet-for-male-priesthood/

A Society Meet For Male Priesthood, by Fiona Givens

Buying Jewish Whiskey, by Nate Oman

https://www.wayfaremagazine.org/p/buying-jewish-whiskey

The Utopia of Rules: On Technology, Stupidity, and the Secret Joys of Bureaucracy, by David Graeber

https://www.amazon.com/Utopia-Rules-Technology-Stupidity-Bureaucracy/dp/1612195180

Pop culture on the apricot tree, ep 39 - Indiana Jones, Lapsed Latter-day Saint?, hosts Liz Busby and Carl Cranney, guests Matt Bowman and Megan Harris

https://www.popcultureapricottree.com/post/indianajones

6.5 Women and Priesthood, Part I

Thu, 29 Feb 2024 12:35:18 -0600

Our first of a multi-part series on women and the Priesthood of the Church. Themes for this part include defining terms, Priesthood vs. religious office, and Priesthood in the past. Join us!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2014/09/men-and-women-and-priesthood-power

Men and Women and Priesthood Power, by Elder M. Russell Ballard

Wiki: Mormonism and women

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_women

LDS website: Women and Priesthood

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/callings/relief-society-organization/work-and-purpose/women-and-priesthood

Joseph Smith’s Teachings about Priesthood, Temple, and Women

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/joseph-smiths-teachings-about-priesthood-temple-and-women

Women Are Not Better at Multitasking. They Just Do More Work, Studies Show, by Leah Ruppanner

https://www.sciencealert.com/women-aren-t-better-multitaskers-than-men-they-re-just-doing-more-work

Paul Among the People: The Apostle Reinterpreted and Reimagined in His Own Time, by Sarah Ruden

https://www.amazon.com/Paul-Among-People-Reinterpreted-Reimagined/dp/0385522576

Eric’s initial take on Sarah Ruden: We got mysteries, we got apples, we got St. Paul. . . .

https://thmazing.substack.com/p/we-got-mysteries-we-got-apples

Stapley, Jonathan A. and Wright, Kristine, Female Ritual Healing in Mormonism (January 1, 2011). Journal of Mormon History, Vol. 37, pp. 1-85, Winter 2011, Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=1754069

A Society Meet For Male Priesthood, by Fiona Givens

https://web.archive.org/web/20140223100456/https://difficultrun.nathanielgivens.com/2014/01/20/a-companion-meet-for-male-priesthood/

D&C 25:7: Emma Smith being “ordained” but footnote 7a says “set apart”

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/25#p7

History of the Young Women’s Organization Timeline Infographic, by Deborah Owen. Laurels used to be Junior Gleaners!

https://makingprogresspersonal.com/2015/03/history-of-young-women-organization/

Frigid Offices Might Be Killing Women’s Productivity, by Olga Khazan

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/05/warm-offices-women-productivity/589966/

Original study: Tom Y. Chang ,Agne Kajackaite (2019). “Battle for the thermostat: Gender and the effect of temperature on cognitive performance.” PLoS ONE 14(5): e0216362. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0216362

2 Ne 2:25

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2#p25

How Rare a Possession

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIhAsifEMFs

The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions, by Joseph M. Spencer et. al.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085HJWGSQ

Family Proclamations, by Blair Hodges

https://www.familyproclamations.org/

6.4 Taking the Stand

Wed, 17 Jan 2024 12:27:03 -0600

Women LDS Relief Society leaders are no longer allowed on the stand in the Bay Area, as covered in Peggy Fletcher Stack’s SL Tribune’s article. On this show, we talk about activism in general, our reaction to this change (not great) and discuss how we think our personal responsibility for revelation needs to be balanced with our need for change to come top down from the Church.

‘A slap in the face’: LDS Relief Society leaders ordered off the stand, by Peggy Fletcher Stack

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/11/24/slap-face-lds-relief-society/

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/why-i-write/

Why I write, by George Orwell

Lukewarm and getting spewed

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/rev/3?lang=eng&id=p15-p16#p15

Eric thinks Peggy Fletcher Stack original art story might not have been written about, if someone had a link let us know and we’ll update the notes here :)

The Star Chamber

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber

Un-American activities committee from the 50s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee

Franklin/Peanuts articles:

Black Isn’t a Personality Type, by John H. McWhorter

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-may-12-op-mcwhorter-story.html

The sweet story behind Peanuts’ groundbreaking first black character, by

Thu-Huong Ha

https://qz.com/571393/the-sweet-story-behind-peanuts-groundbreaking-first-black-character

'Peanuts' First Black Character Franklin Turns 50, by Cecilia Lei and James Delahoussaye

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/29/633544308/peanuts-character-franklin-turns-50

Women at Church: Magnifying LDS Women's Local Impact, by Neylan McBaine

https://www.amazon.com/Women-Church-Magnifying-Womens-Impact/dp/1589586883

Will You Engage in the Wrestle?, by Sheri Dew

https://ing.byui.edu/devotionals/sheri-dew

Jacob wrestling with the angel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_wrestling_with_the_angel

Enos’s wrestle before God

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/enos/1#p2

Cool stuff from Eric we didn’t get to:

Theric Jepson, Danny Nelson and Steven L. Peck: The Path and the Gate

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/theric-jepson-danny-nelson-and-steven-l-peck-the-path-and-the-gate/

Humor in Mormon Literature with Theric Jepson and Stephen Carter

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/humor-in-mormon-literature-with-theric-jepson-and-stephen-carter/

Faci in Hat Podcast episodes referred to in this episode:

2.10 The Columbian Exchange, Wilford Woodruff, and #BlackLivesMatter

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/ep-210-the-columbian-exchange-wilford-woodruff-and-blacklivesmatter/

3.12 Minerva Teichert and the Manti Temple

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/312-minerva-teichert-and-the-manti-temple/

3.13 Close to home: the Church Building Program

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/313-close-to-home-the-church-building-program/

3.14 Paul, the Oakland Temple, and Pride

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/314-paul-the-oakland-temple-and-pride/

6.3 Revelate!

Sat, 23 Dec 2023 17:04:06 -0600

Did you know that we as members of the Church believe in the Book of Revelation? Let’s have some fun and open some seals!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

New YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Look, playlists!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_seals

This is the link for the Seven Seals wiki!

The Hofmann Wobble, by Ben Lerner

https://harpers.org/archive/2023/12/the-hofmann-wobble-wikipedia-and-the-problem-of-historical-memory

Eric’s commentary on The Hatred of Poetry by Ben Lerner

https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2022/05/books-extralong-edition.html#047

Wikipedia and the danger of trusting its facts, with Scott Tong and Ben Lerner

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2023/12/18/wikipedia-facts-danger

Book of Revelation: Canonical History

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Canonical_history

Ussher chronology

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher_chronology

D&C 77

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/77

Historical Context and Background of D&C 77, Brief Synopsis by Steven C. Harper

https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/historical-context/dc-77/

Steven C. Harper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_C._Harper

Interpretations of the Book of Revelations (wiki!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Interpretations

Found one bit to answer Eric’s question on Jehova’s Witnesses: “ The visions apply to “the Lord’s day,” which began when God’s Kingdom was set up in 1914 and Jesus began ruling as King. (Revelation 1:10) We can therefore expect the main fulfillment of Revelation to be in our time.”

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/the-book-of-revelation/

Cleon Skousen. Note the description: “American conservative author with the John Birch Society and a faith-based conspiracy theorist.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Cleon_Skousen

Face in Hat: 3.4 David O. McKay and the confrontation with communism

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/34-david-o-mckay-and-the-confrontation-with-communism/

This is the movie I saw as a kid: Visit Israel with Dr. W. Cleon Skousen: Prophecy

https://www.amazon.com/Visit-Israel-Dr-Cleon-Skousen/dp/B000EHIL7I

Source for LDS 1st seal quote in wiki: McConkie, Bruce R. (1981). Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol. III. Salt Lake City, Utah: Bookcraft Publishers. pp. 476–497.

Seminary lesson referenced:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/new-testament-seminary-teacher-manual-2023/revelation-6-7?lang=eng

New Testament Student Manual: Chapter 54: Revelation 4–11: Revelation 6. The First Six Seals

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/new-testament-student-manual/revelation/chapter-54-revelation-4-11?lang=eng¶=title17-figure5_35#title17

Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch

https://www.amazon.com/Good-Omens-Accurate-Prophecies-Nutter/dp/0060853980

World Happiness Report

https://worldhappiness.report/

Face in Hat: 2.1 Millennial musings

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/21-millennial-musings/

12 billionth person citation: Overpopulation – The Human Explosion Explained, by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348

Mormon Transfigurism

https://www.transfigurism.org/

https://www.transfigurism.org/library/primers/1-what-is-mormon-transhumanism

The Immortality Upgrade, by Dawn Chan

https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/mormon-transhumanism-and-the-immortality-upgrade

Face in Hat: 1.10 Translation and the Book of Abraham

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-10-translation-and-the-book-of-abraham/

6.2 Idol Meat

Mon, 11 Sep 2023 22:37:26 -0600

In 1st Corinthians, Paul teaches about protecting the weak ones by avoiding the appearance of evil. Is this applicable to online discourse? Should we avoid the musty corners of church history or should we investigate? Is there harm in causing doubt, or will that doubt come anyway and is best met head on, guide in hand? We want to frankly look at these questions. Join us, and let us know your thoughts!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

New YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

Look, playlists!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.amazon.com/New-Testament-Translation-Latter-day-Revised/dp/1589587863

The New Testament: A Translation for Latter-day Saints, Revised Edition, by Thomas A. Wayment

Additional reference for today from Eric that we didn’t get to:

Paul Among the People: The Apostle Reinterpreted and Reimagined in His Own Time, by Sarah Ruden

https://amzn.to/3R8E4DY

Pilot episode for your reference:

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/the-man-with-his-face-in-his-hat/

Our grace vs. works episode:

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/58-grace-works-and-foreknowledge/

Chloe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_New_Testament_figures#Chloe

The Zipf Mystery, Vsauce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCn8zs912OE

Corinthians 8 from The Message, by Eugene H. Peterson

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%208&version=MSG

xkcd: Ten Thousand

https://xkcd.com/1053/

Possible reference for using milk to avoid appearing to drink alcohol: In the World, by Elder L. Tom Perry

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1988/04/in-the-world

6.1 Barbie as an Endowment Film

Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:41:45 -0600

Spoilers for the Barbie movie!! The Barbie movie takes people into the presence of God and delivers them to the real world. Join us as we discuss the LDS endowment, existentialism, and heavenly mother as we revel in one of the best movies released in years.

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?t=121979

The Barbie movie transcript we used:

Greta Gerwig Refused to Cut a ‘Barbie’ Scene That’s the ‘Heart of the Movie,’ by Zack Sharf

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/barbie-cut-scene-greta-gerwig-refused-remove-old-woman-bench-scene-1235676474/

(FYI my theater was actually in high school… -Aaron)

Wiki existentialism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism

What Barbie Understands About Mother-Daughter Relationships, by Suzanne Garfinkle-Crowell

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/barbie-movie-mother-daughter-relationship/674931/

In the beginning, there was Barbie, by Alissa Wilkinson

https://www.vox.com/culture/23800753/barbie-review-bible-eden

Barbiemania! Margot Robbie Opens Up About the Movie Everyone’s Waiting For, by Abby Aguirre

https://www.vogue.com/article/margot-robbie-barbie-summer-cover-2023-interview

Walk in the Pink Moccasins, by Carol Lynn Pearson

https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/137-21-25.pdf

The Meeting, by Elouise Bell

https://web.archive.org/web/20171008222301/http://signaturebookslibrary.org/only-when-i-laugh-04

The Year They Gave Women the Priesthood, by Michael Fillerup

https://amzn.to/3DXrqQw

The Defection of Baby Mixo, by Mark Penny

https://lit.mormonartist.net/2016/02/the-defection-of-baby-mixo

Dialogue Book Report’s episode with Eric’s about his book, Just Julie’s Fine, isn’t quite out yet, but here’s the link to the podcast:

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcast-subjects/book-report

Is ‘Barbie’ an allegory of Mother Eve in LDS theology? | Episode 298 of Mormon Land, by Peggy Fletcher Stack, with Rachel Rueckert as guest. Referenced from:

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/08/09/mormon-land-is-barbie-an-allegory/

Parks and Recollection

https://teamcoco.com/podcasts/parks-and-recollection

Heavenly Mother is Packing a Suitcase, by Aisling Rowan, part of Birds to Bones

https://www.instagram.com/p/CvOLfPWMh55/

5.9 Golden plates, translation, and Tibetan Buddhism

Sun, 25 Jun 2023 19:06:23 -0600

We welcome Tanner McAlister today as we discuss two articles on the translation of the Book of Mormon. We kick things off using our season’s reference, “Yet to be revealed”, from BYU studies. Grant Hardy’s article “The Book of Mormon Translation Process”, provides an excellent discussion of possible problems and resolutions in the translation of the Book of Mormon. Then Tanner, a scholar of Tibetan Buddhism, walks us through his recent work, “The Production of the Book of Mormon in Light of a Tibetan Buddhist Parallel”, published in Dialogue, which draws parallels between the discovery and “translation” of both a class of ancient Tibetan Buddhist scripture and the Book of Mormon. Join us!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-book-of-mormon-translation-process/

The Book of Mormon Translation Process, by Grant Hardy

The Production of the Book of Mormon in Light of a Tibetan Buddhist Parallel, by Tanner Davidson McAlister

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/the-production-of-the-book-of-mormon-in-light-of-a-tibetan-buddhist-parallel/

The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Book-Mormon-Readers-Guide/dp/0199731705

Understanding the Book of Mormon: A Reader's Guide, by Grant Hardy

Kathleen Flake, “Translating Time: The Nature and Function of Joseph Smith’s Narrative Canon,” Journal of Religion 87, no. 4 (2007): 497–527

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/519770

Jared Hickman, “‘Bringing Forth’ the Book of Mormon,” in MacKay, Ashurst-McGee, and Hauglid, Producing Ancient Scripture, 78–80.

Blake T. Ostler, “The Book of Mormon as a Modern Expansion of an Ancient Source,” Dialogue 20, no. 1 (1987): 66–123

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V20N01_68.pdf

James Gentry, “Power Objects” (Leiden: Brill, 2017)

https://brill.com/downloadpdf/book/9789004335042/B9789004335042_001.pdf

Rosalynde Welch, “The New Mormon Theology of Matter,” Mormon Studies Review 4, no. 1 (2017): 70.

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1077&context=msr2

Longchenpa and the Possession of the Dakinis, from Tantra in Practice, by David Germano and Janet Gyatso

https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9780691190457-020/html?lang=en

5.8 Grace, works, and foreknowledge

Wed, 24 May 2023 19:28:29 -0600

Two for one! Grace vs. works is one of our favorite topics, and the foreknowledge of God is another! The two articles from BYU Studies we are covering today relate to each other in fascinating ways. Join us as we discuss how we can approach Grace using LDS and Protestant theology, and how the paradoxes of omniscience can be used to discover more about our own relationship with reality, time, and agency. This was a fun one!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/understandings-of-the-relationship-between-grace-and-works/

Understandings of the Relationship between Grace and Works, by Terryl L. Givens

On the Foreknowledge of God: Time, Knowledge, Reality, Agency, by Rosalynde F. Welch

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/on-the-foreknowledge-of-god/

The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://deseretbook.com/p/after-all-we-can-do-grace-works-robert-l-millet-902?variant_id=132598-paperback

(I think this is the one I was referring to! -Aaron)

After All We Can Do...Grace Works, by Robert L. Millet

Believing Christ: The Parable of the Bicycle and Other Good News, by Stephen E. Robinson

https://deseretbook.com/p/believing-christ-parable-bicycle-other-good-news-stephen-e-robinson-3355?variant_id=108581-hardcover

Aaron’s top three talks :)

The Mediator, by Elder Boyd K. Packer

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1977/04/the-mediator

The Purifying Power of Gethsemane, by Elder Bruce R. McConkie

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1985/04/the-purifying-power-of-gethsemane

Beware of Pride, by President Ezra Taft Benson

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1989/04/beware-of-pride

Pelagianism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelagianism

Original Grace, by Adam S. Miller

https://www.amazon.com/Original-Grace-Adam-S-Miller/dp/1639930248

Book of Mormon infinite atonement: Alma 34: 9-14

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/alma/34?lang=eng&id=p9-p14#p9

2 Nephi 9:7

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/9#p7

The Autobiography of Parley Parker Pratt by Parley P. Pratt

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/44896

Our episode that includes the Great God by Orson Pratt

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/52-divinization-and-deity/

Exploring Mormon Thought: Volume 1, The Attributes of God, by Blake T. Ostler

https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Mormon-Thought-Attributes-God-ebook/dp/B0077YUTJE

Gospel Topic: God the Father

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/god-the-father

D&C 130:7, “...past, present, and future… are continually before the Lord.”

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/130?lang=eng&id=p7#p7

The “eternal now” quote: “the past, the present, and the future were and are, with Him, one eternal ‘now.’” History of the Church, 4:597, quoted here:

https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/content/knowledge-of-gods-plan

If You Could Hie to Kolob

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/music/library/hymns/if-you-could-hie-to-kolob

“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.” – Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/14434-space-is-big-you-just-won-t-believe-how-vastly-hugely

Joseph Smith and the Possibility of Comics Andrew Knaupp and Sal Velluto, Pillar of Light Mark Elwood, The Glass Looker Noah Van Sciver, Joseph Smith and the Mormons, by Eric W. Jepson

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/joseph-smith-and-the-possibility-of-comics-andrew-knaupp-and-sal-velluto-pillar-of-light-mark-elwood-the-glass-looker-noah-van-sciver-joseph-smith-and-the-mormons/

5.7 War, Polygamy, and Disobedience

Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:34:35 -0600

When exactly are we supposed to be obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law? Nathan Oman’s article on Civil Disobedience in Latter-day Saint Thought took us down a winding road exploring this question. Ride along!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/civil-disobedience-in-latter-day-saint-thought/

Civil Disobedience in Latter-day Saint Thought, by Nathan B. Oman

The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2023/04?lang=eng

General conference

Peacemakers Needed, by President Russell M. Nelson

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2023/04/47nelson?lang=eng

The Restoration of Conscientious Objection, by Ron Madsen

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/british-latter-day-saint-conscientious-objectors-in-world-war-i

QI Series M, Episode 2 - Military Matters (transcript)

https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/qi/episodes/13/2/

Google Books Ngram Viewer: conscientious objection and civil disobedience

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=conscientious+objection%2Cconscientious+objector%2C+civil+disobedience&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3

Doctrine and Covenants 98

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/98?lang=eng

The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy: Haunting the Hearts and Heaven of Mormon Women and Men, by Carol Lynn Pearson

https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Eternal-Polygamy-Haunting-Hearts/dp/0997458208

Wiki on “The Freeze” in Ghana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints_in_Ghana#%22The_Freeze%22

You Can't Close My Heart: Ghanaian Saints and the Freeze

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/video/2015-12-0001-you-cant-close-my-heart-ghanaian-saints-and-the-freeze?lang=eng

Helmuth Hübener

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_H%C3%BCbener

Hübener, a play by Thomas F. Rogers

https://www.amazon.com/Huebener-Other-Plays-Thomas-Rogers/dp/0963261800

(This includes a review of the play Hübener! Check it out!) Review: The Plays of Thomas F. Rogers, by B. Kent Harrison

https://squaretwo.org/Sq2ArticleHarrisonThomasRogers.html

The Darkest Abyss: Strange Mormon Stories, by William Morris. Look for the story “Reach”, a science fiction story about an oppressive future where a bishop is released from a calling his conscious mind doesn't realize he held.

https://www.amazon.com/Darkest-Abyss-Strange-Mormon-Stories/dp/1948218682

5.6 History, narration, and theological work

Sat, 18 Feb 2023 13:33:37 -0600

Our church’s framing of the apostasy and restoration is changing, and Miranda Wilcox wrote about it! How we narrate our religious history affects our general understanding of Christian history, and can help us better appreciate the centuries of progress between the ancient apostles and 1820.

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/narrating-religious-heritage/

Narrating Religious Heritage: Apostasy and Restoration, by Miranda Wilcox

Joseph Smith and the Possibility of Comics

Reviewed by Theric Jepson

Dialogue 56, no. 1, Spring 2023 (in press)

Pillar of Light, by Andrew G. Knaupp (Author), Sal Velluto (Illustrator)

https://www.cedarfort.com/pages/pillar-of-light

The Glass Looker, by Mark Elwood

https://theglasslooker.com/about/

Joseph Smith and the Mormons, by Noah Van Sciver

https://amzn.to/3JPxRJw

Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber

https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/

Remnant or Replacement? Outlining a Possible Apostasy Narrative, by Nicholas J. Frederick and Joseph M. Spencer

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5076&context=byusq

1st Nephi 11-14

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/1-ne/11

John the Baptist wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist

How the Irish Saved Civilization: The Untold Story of Ireland's Heroic Role From the Fall of Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe (The Hinges of History), by Thomas Cahill

https://amzn.to/3I4v8uF

Martyrs' Crossing, by Melissa Leilani Larson

https://www.melissaleilanilarson.com/martyrs-crossing

5.5 Holy Matrimony, Holy Grail

Fri, 23 Dec 2022 10:24:49 -0600

So, was Jesus married? Our holiday edition of our series on open questions follows Christopher James Blythe’s article on the same question. Conspiracy, Assassin’s Creed, Dan Brown, this one’s got it all. Lots of great links in the show notes! See you next year!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5137&context=byusq

Was Jesus Married?, by Christopher James Blythe

The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Blood_and_the_Holy_Grail

The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, by The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail

Wiki on the book!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Blood_and_the_Holy_Grail

Identical ancestors point

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_ancestors_point

Terrible Revolution: Latter-day Saints and the American Apocalypse, by Christopher James Blythe

https://amzn.to/3WBKo6E

LDS Church Issues Statement Regarding "The Da Vinci Code"

https://www.ksl.com/article/266159/lds-church-issues-statement-regarding-the-da-vinci-code

Evil along the Mississippi: Stories from Nauvoo, by Christopher James Blythe

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/17-1-evil-along-the-mississippi-stories-from-nauvoo/

Introducing Introductions to Mormon Thought. The first two books are linked there and below: Eugene England: A Mormon Liberal, by Kristine Haglund, and Vardis Fisher: A Mormon Novelist

https://www.press.uillinois.edu/wordpress/introducing-introductions-to-mormon-thought/

https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=p058332

https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=83xxc9pb9780252044090

Dialogue Book Report #19: Strange Mormon Fiction: Dave Butler and William Morris

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-book-report-19-strange-mormon-fiction-dave-butler-and-william-morris/

5.4 Agency and its opposition

Sat, 03 Dec 2022 15:27:35 -0600

Agency is critical to the plan of salvation, and the adversary wanted it gone. But how? Philip L. Barlow wrote a banger of an article in Dialogue looking at prevailing theories, and argues the theology yields critical implications for how Mormons interact with government, politics, and church organization. It’s a great read!!!

Philip L. Barlow has a doctorate of theology (Th.D.) from the Harvard Divinity School and serves on the boards of directors for the Society for Mormon Philosophy and Theology and the Dialogue Foundation. How cool is that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Barlow

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/shards-of-combat/

Article for today: “Shards of Combat: How Did Satan Seek to Destroy the Agency of Man?”, by Philip L. Barlow

The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/

Darlene Young’s “A plan of salvation” isn’t yet published, but will appear in Irreantum’s next issue, “The Plan”.

Moses 4:3

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/moses/4?lang=eng#p3

Bonus! Jaywalking chat was cut from the episode, but enjoy Adam Ruins Everything - Why Jaywalking Is a Crime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AFn7MiJz_s

5.3 Eternal individuation and King Follett

Sun, 30 Oct 2022 17:52:28 -0600

We welcome William Morris aka Wm, founder of A Motley Vision, onto our show to talk about the BYU studies article, The King Follett Discourse: Pinnacle or Peripheral?, by James E. Faulconer and Susannah Morrison. We talk about the nature of individuality, intelligence, and our own eternal destiny, as revealed by Joseph Smith and studied by prophets and scholars ever since. We even may have come to a new conclusion on the discourse as a whole? Join us!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-king-follett-discourse-pinnacle-or-peripheral/

Article for today: The King Follett Discourse: Pinnacle or Peripheral?, by James E. Faulconer and Susannah Morrison

The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://motleyvision.org/

Motley Vision website

The Darkest Abyss: Strange Mormon Stories, by William Morris

https://www.amazon.com/Darkest-Abyss-Strange-Mormon-Stories/dp/1948218682

Email subscription for Wm

https://buttondown.email/motleyvision

God has created “both things to act and things to be acted upon”, 2 Nephi 2:14

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2#p14

Science the Key to Theology: Volume One: Preliminaries, by Steven L. Peck

https://www.amazon.com/Science-Key-Theology-One-Preliminaries/dp/0998605204

The Marvelous Clouds: Toward a Philosophy of Elemental Media, by John Durham Peters

https://www.amazon.com/Marvelous-Clouds-Toward-Philosophy-Elemental/dp/022625383X

Dark Watch and other Mormon-American stories, by William Morris

https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Watch-other-Mormon-American-stories-ebook/dp/B00WQHCCFG

Talking to Dante in the Spirit World,by Daniel Cooper

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/talking-to-dante-in-the-spirit-world-by-daniel-cooper/

Hemingway in Paradise and Other Mormon Poems, by Scott Hales

https://www.amazon.com/Hemingway-Paradise-Other-Mormon-Poems/dp/B09WQBHBQG

Thanks to our sponsor! Check out Beyond the Witch's Woods: Book One of the Kingdom of Adair, by Nathan K Caulder

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BF2Q4TJX/

5.2 Divinization and Deity

Mon, 17 Oct 2022 22:13:40 -0600

It’s a two for one today as we look at two BYU studies articles on whether God ever has or is currently progressing, and on progression in the afterlife. Go deep with us! It’s so much fun! Plus Hadestown makes an appearance!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BF2Q4TJX/

Thanks to our sponsor! Check out Beyond the Witch's Woods: Book One of the Kingdom of Adair, by Nathan K Caulder

Two articles in this episode:

What Is the Nature of God’s Progress?, by Matthew Bowman

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/what-is-the-nature-of-gods-progress/

How Limited Is Postmortal Progression?, by Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/how-limited-is-postmortal-progression/

Both from the full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/10/14/1128875298/brain-cells-neurons-learn-video-game-pong

Brain cells in a lab dish learn to play Pong — and offer a window onto intelligence, by Jon Hamilton

Heike's Void, by Steven Peck (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Heikes-Void-Steven-Peck/dp/1948218550

The Plan, a play by Eric Samuelsen

https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/155-06-31.pdf

Slaughterhouse-Five: A Novel, by Kurt Vonnegut (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Slaughterhouse-Five-Novel-Modern-Library-Novels/dp/0385333846

Hilbert's paradox of the Grand Hotel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert%27s_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel

Infinity - Here Come the 123s, by They Might Be Giants

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=pTpEB-Y2Ai0&list=OLAK5uy_ltENVxaQXfqCtKD-WTW_t38dlM81kvy-E

How To Count Past Infinity - Vsauce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrU9YDoXE88

Infinity is bigger than you think - Numberphile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elvOZm0d4H0

(Aaron) I couldn’t quite verify it, but it’s rumored that Matthew Bowman’s The Mormon People: The Making of an American Faith states that James Talmadge was one of the first Mormon’s with a Ph.D.

https://www.amazon.com/Mormon-People-Making-American-Faith/dp/081298336X

Talking to Dante in the Spirit World, by Daniel Cooper

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/talking-to-dante-in-the-spirit-world-by-daniel-cooper/

Hadestown! It’s the best. Here’s a spotify link.

https://open.spotify.com/album/1J1yxODbNlqKbwRqJxYJUP

Hades! Also the best. Get it on steam or it’s free right now on xbox if you have game pass!

https://www.supergiantgames.com/games/hades/

Joseph Smith and the Mormons Hardcover, by Noah Van Sciver

https://www.amazon.com/Joseph-Smith-Mormons-Noah-Sciver/dp/141974965X

Next time! The King Follett Discourse: Pinnacle or Peripheral?, by James E. Faulconer and Susannah Morrison

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-king-follett-discourse-pinnacle-or-peripheral/

Our related previous episode: 2.2 Canonization and the King Follett Discourse

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/22-canonization-and-the-king-follett-discourse/

5.1 Open Questions, an intro to season 5

Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:28:06 -0600

Welcome to season 5! In this season we are studying the recent BYU Studies Quarterly issue 60:3: “Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology.” In each of the articles, an unsettled, open question is presented along with viewpoints from LDS authorities, theologians, and scholars. The goal is not to resolve or debate but to present and discuss, a take we appreciate. Join us! Our first episode is on the article “Oh Say, What Is Truth?”: Approaches to Doctrine, by Michael A. Goodman.

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

Full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/introduction-3/

Introduction to a BYU Studies Quarterly Special Issue on Open Questions in Latter-day Saint Theology, by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

“Oh Say, What Is Truth?”: Approaches to Doctrine, by Michael A. Goodman

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/oh-say-what-is-truth/

Optimistic Nihilism - The philosophy of Kurzgesagt, by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

https://youtu.be/MBRqu0YOH14

People of Paradox: A History of Mormon Culture, by Terryl L. Givens

https://www.amazon.com/People-Paradox-History-Mormon-Culture/dp/0199915989

Argument - Monty Python

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ

4.8 Mormonism and Judaism

Tue, 28 Jun 2022 23:35:47 -0600

Mormons love the Old Testament and everything about the Jewish faith and culture. Join us as we go into the history of Judaic influences on the LDS faith, and the sometimes complex relationship between our faiths.

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQuFSxs9VXA

Colonialism - The Board Game Struggle, by No Pun Included

Wiki: Judaism and Mormonism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_Mormonism

What Is Cultural Appropriation?, by The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica

https://www.britannica.com/story/what-is-cultural-appropriation

The Complicated Relationship between Mormons and Jews, by Matthew Bowman (free registration and free trial required)

https://mosaicmagazine.com/response/history-ideas/2020/07/the-complicated-relationship-between-mormons-and-jews/

Reverence vs Chutzpah, by thmazing

https://motleyvision.org/2013/05/01/reverence-vs-chutzpah/

Selections from Jews and Words by Oz and Oz-Salzberger, by thmazing

https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2013/03/selections-from-jews-and-words-by-oz.html

Jews and Words, by Amos Oz and Fania Oz-Salzberger

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300156472/

Cats, Feces, Zombies, Jews, Wars, Princesses, Prophets, Exes, Screenplays, blog post by thmazing

https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2013/03/cats-feces-zombies-jews-wars-princesses.html#lineage

What Is It About Mormonism?, by Noah Feldman (subscription required)

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/magazine/06mormonism-t.html

(Aaron) I couldn’t find the reference for Spencer W. Kimball sharing a joke with the Lord, but I did find the awesome list of jokes and stories about Spencer W. Kimball. Highly recommended!

Spencer W. Kimball: A Man of Good Humor, by Edward L. Kimball

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2389&context=byusq

4.7 Joshua and Jericho

Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:13:45 -0600

A fun primary lesson led to a deeper discussion of historicity and truth in the book of Joshua.

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https://bycommonconsent.com/2021/05/23/what-do-we-mean-when-we-say-that-the-scriptures-are-true/

What Do We Mean When We Say that the Scriptures Are True? By Michael Austin

Wiki: the conquest of Caanan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Joshua#Entry_into_the_land_and_conquest_.28chapters_2.E2.80.9312.29

Come follow me: Joshua

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/come-follow-me-for-individuals-and-families-old-testament-2022/22

On Writing Heike’s Void, by Steven L. Peck

https://www.associationmormonletters.org/2022/06/on-writing-heikes-void-by-steven-l-peck/

Heike’s Void, by Steven L. Peck

https://www.amazon.com/Heikes-Void-Steven-Peck/dp/1948218550

Wiki: Battle of Jericho

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jericho

Song of solomon footnote

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/song/1?lang=eng#note

Americapox: The Missing Plague, by CGP Grey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYh5WACqEk

Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber

https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/

Thoughts to Keep in Mind: The Historical Books in the Old Testament

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/come-follow-me-for-individuals-and-families-old-testament-2022/22-thoughts

Mormon Literature at the 57th Annual MHA Conference, by Liz Busby

https://www.associationmormonletters.org/2022/05/mormon-literature-at-the-57th-annual-mha-conference/

4.6 Critical reading and the Divine Feminine

Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:21:16 -0600

Reading scientific papers requires a critical mindset, but often ‘critical’ has a negative connotation. How can we apply critical reading to scriptures and conference addresses? This is especially relevant in the context of recent conference addresses and discourse in the Mormon community on Heavenly Mother (see especially Dialogue’s spring issue, “Heavenly Mother in Critical Context”).

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https://www.elsevier.com/connect/infographic-how-to-read-a-scientific-paper

Infographic: How to read a scientific paper, by Natalia Rodriguez

Answering Gospel Questions

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/answering-gospel-questions?lang=eng

How to Tell a True War Story, by Tim O’Brian

https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~cinichol/CreativeWriting/323/OBrienWarStory.pdf

The things they carried, by Tim O’Brian

https://www.amazon.com/Things-They-Carried-Tim-OBrien/dp/0618706410

Your Divine Nature and Eternal Destiny, By Elder Dale G. Renlund (see footnote 10)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2022/04/36renlund

Dialogue, Spring 2022. “Heavenly Mother in Critical Context.”

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/spring-2022/

In Defense of Heavenly Mother: Her Critical Importance for Mormon Culture and Theology, by Margaret Toscano

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/in-defense-of-heavenly-mother-her-critical-importance-for-mormon-culture-and-theology/

Abbott & Costello 7 x 13 = 28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzxVyO6cpos

Queer Mormon Theology: An Introduction, by Blaire Ostler

https://www.amazon.com/Queer-Mormon-Theology-Blaire-Ostler/dp/1948218410

Mother's Milk, by Rachel Hunt Steenblik

https://www.amazon.com/Mothers-Milk-Rachel-Hunt-Steenblik/dp/0998605220

Finding Mother God: Poems to Heal the World Hardcover, by Carol Lynn Pearson

https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Mother-God-Poems-World/dp/1423656687

Dove Song: Heavenly Mother in Mormon Poetry. Edited by Tyler Chadwick, Dayna Patterson, and Martin Pulido

http://www.peculiarpages.com/books/dove-song/

4.5 Universalism and Heresy

Wed, 02 Feb 2022 21:43:04 -0600

Dr. Eugene England and Elder Bruce R. McConkie really didn’t agree on many points regarding the nature of God and the destiny of souls. For today’s show, we highly recommend Rebecca England’s essay linked in the show notes! We cover it briefly but it’s worth your time!

D&C 1:30

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/1?lang=eng&id=30#p30

The vision: D&C 76

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/76

“The Vision”, by Matthew McBride (includes quote from Brigham Young and his brother Joseph)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/revelations-in-context/the-vision?lang=eng#p12

D&C 19:11-19

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/19?lang=eng&id=11-19#p11

So Ask No More…, by Mario R. Montani. Translated by Gabriel González.

(Spanish) https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/y-no-preguntes-mas/

(English) https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/so-ask-no-more/

A Professor and Apostle Correspond: Eugene England and Bruce R. McConkie on the Nature of God, by Rebecca England

http://www.eugeneengland.org/a-professor-and-apostle-correspond-eugene-england-and-bruce-r-mcconkie-on-the-nature-of-god

The Seven Deadly Heresies, by Bruce R. McConkie

https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/bruce-r-mcconkie/seven-deadly-heresies/

Stretching the Heavens: The Life of Eugene England and the Crisis of Modern Mormonism, by Terryl L. Givens

https://www.amazon.com/Stretching-Heavens-Eugene-England-Mormonism/dp/146966433X

Here’s a direct link to the quote that blew Aaron away, from Articles of Faith by, James Talmage, pg 421

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/42238/42238-h/42238-h.htm#Page_421

Printed vs. audio version of The Seven Deadly Heresies

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Primary_sources/Bruce_R._McConkie/Seven_deadly_heresies

4.4 Billions of quick hits

Mon, 03 Jan 2022 17:58:00 -0600

Happy new year! We revisit older shows, adding updates on finance (billions of dollars worth), the Provo temple, the Devil in church meetings and certain prophecies about the color of horses.

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2002/02169-deseret.pdf

More about the deseret alphabet and Unicode by Kenneth R. Beesley:

https://uofupress.lib.utah.edu/an-1860-english-hopi-vocabulary-written-in-the-deseret-alphabet/

https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb25-0/beesley.pdf

Original whistleblower article, by Jon Swaine, Douglas MacMillan and Michelle Boorstein:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/mormon-church-has-misled-members-on-100-billion-tax-exempt-investment-fund-whistleblower-alleges/2019/12/16/e3619bd2-2004-11ea-86f3-3b5019d451db_story.html

Some Thoughts About Ensign Peak Advisers and the Church, by Sam Brunson

https://bycommonconsent.com/2019/12/17/some-thoughts-about-ensign-peak-advisers-and-the-church/

Let’s Talk About Money, by Sam Brunson

https://bycommonconsent.com/2021/08/21/lets-talk-about-money/#more-115349

Response to church’s response, by Sam Brunson

https://twitter.com/smbrnsn/status/1208433565945487360

The Good Shepherds musical:

https://thegoodshepherds.net/about-the-show

Provo temple pictures:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/temples/photo-gallery/provo-utah-temple?lang=eng

Irreantum issue: Joe Smith and the Devil

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/18_1_top/

Sympathy for the “Devil”, by Roxy Rawson:

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/sympathy-for-the-devil/

Film Theory: Star Wars, How The Mandalorian PROVES the Empire was Right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjWokxCfCvs

Eric’s comment in twitter thread on the OT:

https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1476590787408252934

4.3 Liberal hair lengths

Wed, 24 Nov 2021 17:34:12 -0600

Starting off with the history of the People’s Park in Berkley, we segway into discussing Emily Kaplan’s article in the Washington Post, “The Rise of the Liberal Latter-day Saints.” It’s a great article and has generated lots of discussion, especially around LBGTQ issues. Join us!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Park_(Berkeley)

People's Park (Berkeley)

The Rise of the Liberal Latter-day Saints and the battle for the future of Mormonism, by Emily Kaplan

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2021/09/27/rise-liberal-latter-day-saints/

First Person: Berkeley's Matt Marostica on How to Make Progressive Change within a Conservative Church

https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101885956/first-person-berkeleys-matt-marostica-on-how-to-make-progressive-change-within-a-conservative-church

Fireside podcast Ep. 6—No Compartments (David Dark)

https://www.firesidepod.org/episodes/dark

Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious, by David Dark

https://www.amazon.com/Lifes-Short-Pretend-Youre-Religious/dp/0830844465

Human History Gets a Rewrite, by William Deresiewicz

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/graeber-wengrow-dawn-of-everything-history-humanity/620177/

Garden of Enid: Enid vs. The Big Tent, by Scott Hales

https://thegardenofenid.tumblr.com/post/94527291396/enid-vs-the-big-tent-8122014/amp

Benjamin Park’s response to Emily Kaplan’s essay

https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1442616042627469312

Prop 8 - The Musical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_hyT7_Bx9o

Stretching the Heavens: The Life of Eugene England and the Crisis of Modern Mormonism, by Terryl L. Givens

https://www.amazon.com/Stretching-Heavens-Eugene-England-Mormonism/dp/146966433X

4.2 In our lovely alphabet

Sat, 09 Oct 2021 13:18:07 -0600

Brigham Young loved the Deseret alphabet, and so do we. It’s so cool looking and old and kinda weird. It’s perfect Mormon history and it’s forever enshrined in Unicode. Let’s take a look!

Link to new Face in Hat discord server!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_alphabet

Start here!

English Phonotypic Alphabet, developed by Sir Isaac Pitman and Alexander John Ellis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Phonotypic_Alphabet

George D. Watt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_D._Watt

A Simplified Alphabet, by Mark Twain

https://englishliterature.net/mark-twain/a-simplified-alphabet

Monsters and Mormons

https://www.amazon.com/Monsters-Mormons-Wm-Henry-Morris/dp/0982781245

Quite Interesting, J series, ep 13, Jobs

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B084DL9FQC/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s10

Making Peace: Personal Essays, by Eugene England, Chapter 4, On Bringing Peace To BYU, With The Help Of Brigham Young

http://signaturebookslibrary.org/on-bringing-peace-to-byu-with-the-help-of-brigham-young/

Dialogue Book Report #13: Kristine Haglund on Eugene England

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-book-report-13-kristine-haglund-on-eugene-england/

The Deseret Alphabet in Unicode, by Kenneth R. Beesley

http://www.chem.ucla.edu/~jericks/Historical%20or%20Technical/History%20Looking%20Backwards/Ken%20Beesley/Deseret%20in%20Unicode.pdf

The Stainless Steel Rat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat

4.1 A modern miracle

Sun, 26 Sep 2021 17:10:55 -0600

Did you know they had smallpox vaccines in the 1700s? Join us as we kick off season 4 of Face in Hat with some history and then an in-depth look at one of the most important modern miracles, the mRNA vaccine against Covid 19.

Link to new Face in Hat discord server!