We all swim outside, all year round, in nature – as one way to try to cope with the impacts of endo.

In this episode, we discuss what it is we are trying to cope with: from cancelling plans and social isolation to the difficulties of finding and managing work whilst living with unpredictable health. We talk about identity and what it means to be disabled, plus the hidden costs of living with a chronic health condition.

Plus we talk about our shared love for swimming – and how cold water, and nature, makes living with endo that little bit more manageable.

In the episode, Esh mentions artist Mab Graves - @mabgraves on Instagram.

She also mentions Endometriosis UK and their excellent check list of symptoms: https://www.endometriosis-uk.org/symptom-checker

Sunflower lanyards indicate hidden disabilities – details at https://hdsunflower.com/

In the UK, “please offer me a seat” badges can be requested for free from Transport for London: https://tfl.gov.uk/transport-accessibility/please-offer-me-a-seat

We are all regular swimmers at the Kenwood Ladies Pond on Hampstead Heath in London: https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/green-spaces/hampstead-heath/where-to-go-at-hampstead-heath/kenwood-ladies-pond

If you liked this episode, you might also like another of my podcasts, Taking the Plunge – which explores cold water swimming for mental health and recovery from trauma: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1QErWvcGc3mZhoHDbUYUis

None of us knew we had endo growing up. What do we know about it now, that we wish we'd known then? How do Debs and Esther talk to their teenage daughters about their bodies? And how do they both cope with their challenging jobs as teachers - whilst living with a chronic health condition?