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    <description>Exploring What It Means To Live In Wholeness</description>
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          <itunes:summary>Exploring life in light of the love who embraces all our skeletons.</itunes:summary>
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        <title>Fall in Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy with Frank Scheaffer</title>
        <itunes:title>Fall in Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy with Frank Scheaffer</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/fall-in-love-have-kids-stay-put-save-the-planet-be-happy-with-frank-scheaffer/</link>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[Frank Scheaffer is an award winning author of more than a dozen books. He has appeared on such shows as Oprah and the Today Show. In this episode, we discuss his new book, Fall in Love, Have Children Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. There is so much in this discussion and in his book that is relevant and refreshing for the times we are living in. Check out his work here and at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.com/

Make sure to preorder his book: https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Love-Children-Planet-Happy/dp/0757324118/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1612650815&sr=1-4
 
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[Frank Scheaffer is an award winning author of more than a dozen books. He has appeared on such shows as Oprah and the Today Show. In this episode, we discuss his new book, Fall in Love, Have Children Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. There is so much in this discussion and in his book that is relevant and refreshing for the times we are living in. Check out his work here and at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.com/

Make sure to preorder his book: https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Love-Children-Planet-Happy/dp/0757324118/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1612650815&sr=1-4
 
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Make sure to preorder his book: https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Love-Children-Planet-Happy/dp/0757324118/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1612650815&sr=1-4
 
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        <title>Ending the End Times To Become the Second Coming with Keith Giles</title>
        <itunes:title>Ending the End Times To Become the Second Coming with Keith Giles</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/ending-the-end-times-to-become-the-second-coming-with-keith-giles/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2021 22:51:58 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Author Keith Giles enlightens us on what is really going on with all the 'end times' passages in scripture.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Author Keith Giles enlightens us on what is really going on with all the 'end times' passages in scripture.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Author Keith Giles enlightens us on what is really going on with all the 'end times' passages in scripture.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <itunes:duration>3886</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
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        <title>The God Who Doesn't Avenge with Matthew Distefano</title>
        <itunes:title>The God Who Doesn't Avenge with Matthew Distefano</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/the-god-who-doesnt-avenge/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2021 11:05:26 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Matthew is a best-selling author, blogger, podcaster, long-time social worker, and hip-hop artist. In this episode we discuss God's demeanor towards victims and violence in scripture, and how this can impact our lives and our world. Check out Matthew's work <a href='http://www.allsetfree.com/'>here.</a></p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew is a best-selling author, blogger, podcaster, long-time social worker, and hip-hop artist. In this episode we discuss God's demeanor towards victims and violence in scripture, and how this can impact our lives and our world. Check out Matthew's work <a href='http://www.allsetfree.com/'>here.</a></p>
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        <title>Introduction to the Enneagram with Jeff King</title>
        <itunes:title>Introduction to the Enneagram with Jeff King</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/introduction-to-the-enneagram-with-jeff-king/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2021 22:57:50 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Jeff King is a podcaster and soon to be Enneagram Coach. He formed his nonprofit, <a href='https://www.transmuto.org/about'>Transmuto</a>, to help people walk the path to personal development and spiritual formation. In this episode Jeff gives us a breakdown of the Enneagram, what each type is, and how knowing your type can help you to grow.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff King is a podcaster and soon to be Enneagram Coach. He formed his nonprofit, <a href='https://www.transmuto.org/about'>Transmuto</a>, to help people walk the path to personal development and spiritual formation. In this episode Jeff gives us a breakdown of the Enneagram, what each type is, and how knowing your type can help you to grow.</p>
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                <itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
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        <title>Learning to Be with Karl Forehand</title>
        <itunes:title>Learning to Be with Karl Forehand</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/learning-to-be-with-karl-forehand/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:29:54 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Loved getting to chat with my friend Karl once again. We discuss his upcoming book Being and what he has been learning through his journey. Check out his work <a href='https://karlforehand.com/'>here</a>.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved getting to chat with my friend Karl once again. We discuss his upcoming book <em>Being</em> and what he has been learning through his journey. Check out his work <a href='https://karlforehand.com/'>here</a>.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Loved getting to chat with my friend Karl once again. We discuss his upcoming book Being and what he has been learning through his journey. Check out his work here.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
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                <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
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        <title>Faith After Doubt with Brian McLaren</title>
        <itunes:title>Faith After Doubt with Brian McLaren</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/faith-after-doubt-with-brian-mclaren/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/faith-after-doubt-with-brian-mclaren/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2021 00:46:04 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Brian McLaren is an activist, speaker, and my favorite author. He has written such fantastic books as The Secret Message of Jesus, Everything Must Change, and A New Kind of Christian. In this episode, we discuss Brian's new book, Faith After Doubt. Check out Brian and his work <a href='https://brianmclaren.net/'>here</a>.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian McLaren is an activist, speaker, and my favorite author. He has written such fantastic books as <em>The Secret Message of Jesus, Everything Must Change,</em> and <em>A New Kind of Christian. </em>In this episode, we discuss Brian's new book, <em>Faith After Doubt. </em>Check out Brian and his work <a href='https://brianmclaren.net/'>here</a>.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Brian McLaren is an activist, speaker, and my favorite author. He has written such fantastic books as The Secret Message of Jesus, Everything Must Change, and A New Kind of Christian. In this episode, we discuss Brian's new book, Faith After Doubt. Check out Brian and his work here.]]></itunes:summary>
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        <title>What are you going to do about it? With Nora Sophia</title>
        <itunes:title>What are you going to do about it? With Nora Sophia</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/what-are-you-going-to-do-about-it-with-nora-sophia/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 01:51:15 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Nora Sophia is a podcaster, writer, youtuber, teacher and co-founder of Shaia-Sophia Publishing House.  Nora uses her own journey to help people find their own courage to be who they truly are. Connect with her at norasophia.com/</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nora Sophia is a podcaster, writer, youtuber, teacher and co-founder of Shaia-Sophia Publishing House.  Nora uses her own journey to help people find their own courage to be who they truly are. Connect with her at norasophia.com/</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Nora Sophia is a podcaster, writer, youtuber, teacher and co-founder of Shaia-Sophia Publishing House.  Nora uses her own journey to help people find their own courage to be who they truly are. Connect with her at norasophia.com/]]></itunes:summary>
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        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
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        <itunes:duration>3131</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
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        <title>Roller Coasters and Mysticism</title>
        <itunes:title>Roller Coasters and Mysticism</itunes:title>
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                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/roller-coasters-and-mysticism/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2020 01:53:51 -0300</pubDate>
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        <itunes:duration>1963</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
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        <title>Self-Friendship, the Kingdom of God, and more with Brian McLaren</title>
        <itunes:title>Self-Friendship, the Kingdom of God, and more with Brian McLaren</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/self-friendship-the-kingdom-of-god-and-more-with-brian-mclaren/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/self-friendship-the-kingdom-of-god-and-more-with-brian-mclaren/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2020 11:26:31 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode I got to chat with Brian McLaren. He is an activist, speaker, and my favorite author. Check out his many books and other work <a href='https://brianmclaren.net/'>here</a>.</p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode I got to chat with Brian McLaren. He is an activist, speaker, and my favorite author. Check out his many books and other work <a href='https://brianmclaren.net/'>here</a>.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode I got to chat with Brian McLaren. He is an activist, speaker, and my favorite author. Check out his many books and other work here.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>delongben49</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2914</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
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        <title>Religious Refugees with Mark Karris</title>
        <itunes:title>Religious Refugees with Mark Karris</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/religious-refugees-with-mark-karris/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/religious-refugees-with-mark-karris/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:35:22 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>If you are struggling, or know someone who is struggling with their faith transforming, this interview will be helpful. Mark uses his personal as well as his therapeutic experience to discuss the journey from deconstruction to reconstruction. Make sure to check out his book <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Religious-Refugees-Constructing-Spiritual-Emotional/dp/1938480554/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=mark+karris&qid=1594845231&sr=8-1'>here</a>.</p>
<p> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are struggling, or know someone who is struggling with their faith transforming, this interview will be helpful. Mark uses his personal as well as his therapeutic experience to discuss the journey from deconstruction to reconstruction. Make sure to check out his book <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Religious-Refugees-Constructing-Spiritual-Emotional/dp/1938480554/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=mark+karris&qid=1594845231&sr=8-1'>here</a>.</p>
<p> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[If you are struggling, or know someone who is struggling with their faith transforming, this interview will be helpful. Mark uses his personal as well as his therapeutic experience to discuss the journey from deconstruction to reconstruction. Make sure to check out his book here.
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        <itunes:author>delongben49</itunes:author>
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        <itunes:duration>2596</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
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        <title>The Four-Gospel Journey with Alexander John Shaia</title>
        <itunes:title>The Four-Gospel Journey with Alexander John Shaia</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/the-four-gospel-journey-with-alexander-john-shaia/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/the-four-gospel-journey-with-alexander-john-shaia/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2020 18:23:55 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode Alexander John Shaia shares his illuminating approach to the Gospels that sees each Gospel as answering a particular question that we all face at several times in our lives. This approach is making the Gospels come alive for me in a whole new way. Make sure to check out Alexander John Shaia's work at <a href='https://www.quadratos.com/'>https://www.quadratos.com/</a></p>
<p>Get his beautiful book "Hearts and Minds: The Four-Gospel Journey For Radical Transformation" on <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Mind-Four-Gospel-Journey-Transformation/dp/0692951865/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Hearts+and+Minds%3A+The+Four-Gospel+Journey+For+Radical+Transformation&qid=1592169689&sr=8-1'>here</a> </p>
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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode Alexander John Shaia shares his illuminating approach to the Gospels that sees each Gospel as answering a particular question that we all face at several times in our lives. This approach is making the Gospels come alive for me in a whole new way. Make sure to check out Alexander John Shaia's work at <a href='https://www.quadratos.com/'>https://www.quadratos.com/</a></p>
<p>Get his beautiful book "Hearts and Minds: The Four-Gospel Journey For Radical Transformation" on <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Mind-Four-Gospel-Journey-Transformation/dp/0692951865/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Hearts+and+Minds%3A+The+Four-Gospel+Journey+For+Radical+Transformation&qid=1592169689&sr=8-1'>here</a> </p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode Alexander John Shaia shares his illuminating approach to the Gospels that sees each Gospel as answering a particular question that we all face at several times in our lives. This approach is making the Gospels come alive for me in a whole new way. Make sure to check out Alexander John Shaia's work at https://www.quadratos.com/
Get his beautiful book "Hearts and Minds: The Four-Gospel Journey For Radical Transformation" on here ]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>delongben49</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>4805</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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    <item>
        <title>Experiencing Love In Vulnerability with Jason Elam</title>
        <itunes:title>Experiencing Love In Vulnerability with Jason Elam</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/experiencing-love-in-vulnerability-with-jason-elam/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/experiencing-love-in-vulnerability-with-jason-elam/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2020 23:04:10 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Jason has a huge heart and a great story. We discuss finding healing from our spiritual trauma and experiencing love in those hurting places in our hearts. Check out his Messy Spirituality podcast and the upcoming NOMAD conference at his site <a href='http://jasonelam.org/'>http://jasonelam.org/</a></p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason has a huge heart and a great story. We discuss finding healing from our spiritual trauma and experiencing love in those hurting places in our hearts. Check out his Messy Spirituality podcast and the upcoming NOMAD conference at his site <a href='http://jasonelam.org/'>http://jasonelam.org/</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Jason has a huge heart and a great story. We discuss finding healing from our spiritual trauma and experiencing love in those hurting places in our hearts. Check out his Messy Spirituality podcast and the upcoming NOMAD conference at his site http://jasonelam.org/]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>delongben49</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2791</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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        <title>Following the Whispers (Do I Have What It Takes?) with Brad Hill</title>
        <itunes:title>Following the Whispers (Do I Have What It Takes?) with Brad Hill</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/following-the-whispers-do-i-have-what-it-takes/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/following-the-whispers-do-i-have-what-it-takes/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 20:19:42 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode I chat with my friend Brad Hill, who is an author, podcast host, life coach, and Director of Heart Connexion Ministries. He offers a lot of wisdom from the journey he has walked. If you have ever wrestled with how to follow the whispers in your heart about what your next step is, this will be a great encouragement. Enjoy!</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode I chat with my friend Brad Hill, who is an author, podcast host, life coach, and Director of Heart Connexion Ministries. He offers a lot of wisdom from the journey he has walked. If you have ever wrestled with how to follow the whispers in your heart about what your next step is, this will be a great encouragement. Enjoy!</p>
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        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/4ry1ge/BHillFullEpisode.mp3" length="49605472" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode I chat with my friend Brad Hill, who is an author, podcast host, life coach, and Director of Heart Connexion Ministries. He offers a lot of wisdom from the journey he has walked. If you have ever wrestled with how to follow the whispers in your heart about what your next step is, this will be a great encouragement. Enjoy!]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>delongben49</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2066</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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    <item>
        <title>How can a loving Father torment people forever in hell? With Keith Giles</title>
        <itunes:title>How can a loving Father torment people forever in hell? With Keith Giles</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/how-can-a-loving-father-torment-people-forever-in-hell-with-keith-giles/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/how-can-a-loving-father-torment-people-forever-in-hell-with-keith-giles/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2020 16:33:44 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Does the typical view of hell make it hard for you to see God as a loving Father? Join Keith Giles and I as we explore this topic. We discuss his new book, "Jesus Undefeated: Condemning the False Doctrine of Eternal Torment." Check it out <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Undefeated-Condemning-Doctrine-Eternal-ebook/dp/B07ZHP2T6G/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=keith+giles&qid=1582317129&sr=8-2'>here</a>.</p>
<p>I dive into this topic as well in my book, "There's a God In My Closet: Encountering the Love Who Embraces Our Skeletons." Check it out <a href='https://www.bdelong.com/buy-the-book/theres-a-god-in-my-closet-encountering-the-love-who-embraces-our-skeletons-by-ben-delong-foreword-by-brad-jersak'>here</a>.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the typical view of hell make it hard for you to see God as a loving Father? Join Keith Giles and I as we explore this topic. We discuss his new book, "Jesus Undefeated: Condemning the False Doctrine of Eternal Torment." Check it out <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Undefeated-Condemning-Doctrine-Eternal-ebook/dp/B07ZHP2T6G/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=keith+giles&qid=1582317129&sr=8-2'>here</a>.</p>
<p>I dive into this topic as well in my book, "There's a God In My Closet: Encountering the Love Who Embraces Our Skeletons." Check it out <a href='https://www.bdelong.com/buy-the-book/theres-a-god-in-my-closet-encountering-the-love-who-embraces-our-skeletons-by-ben-delong-foreword-by-brad-jersak'>here</a>.</p>
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Does the typical view of hell make it hard for you to see God as a loving Father? Join Keith Giles and I as we explore this topic. We discuss his new book, "Jesus Undefeated: Condemning the False Doctrine of Eternal Torment." Check it out here.
I dive into this topic as well in my book, "There's a God In My Closet: Encountering the Love Who Embraces Our Skeletons." Check it out here.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>delongben49</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>3812</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
        <itunes:image href="https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/ep-logo/pbblog1812654/41RPwfVEjRL__SX321_BO1_204_203_200_.jpg" />    </item>
    <item>
        <title>Entering the Shack with William Paul Young</title>
        <itunes:title>Entering the Shack with William Paul Young</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/entering-the-shack-with-paul-young/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/entering-the-shack-with-paul-young/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2020 01:32:15 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful conversation with Paul Young about his book "The Shack", and entering into our hearts to find the healing God has for us.</p>
<p>Check out Paul's work at wmpaulyoung.com</p>
<p>Check out my book "There's a God In My Closet" at bdelong.com</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful conversation with Paul Young about his book "The Shack", and entering into our hearts to find the healing God has for us.</p>
<p>Check out Paul's work at wmpaulyoung.com</p>
<p>Check out my book "There's a God In My Closet" at bdelong.com</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/bpua85/Final_Product.mp3" length="91936512" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Wonderful conversation with Paul Young about his book "The Shack", and entering into our hearts to find the healing God has for us.
Check out Paul's work at wmpaulyoung.com
Check out my book "There's a God In My Closet" at bdelong.com]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>delongben49</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>3830</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
        <itunes:image href="https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/ep-logo/pbblog1812654/Shack.jpg" />    </item>
    <item>
        <title>Signs of Life with Stephanie Lobdell</title>
        <itunes:title>Signs of Life with Stephanie Lobdell</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/signs-of-life-with-stephanie-lobdell/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/signs-of-life-with-stephanie-lobdell/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2020 22:50:09 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie Lobdell is a pastor, preacher, and writer. She currently serves as the Campus Pastor at Mount Vernon Nazarene University. She is the author of Signs of Life: Resurrecting Hope Out of Ordinary Losses. She is an incredibly gifted writer, and her book gives inspirational insight into how the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ impacts our everyday lives. Check out her work at <a href='http://www.stephanielobdell.com/'>http://www.stephanielobdell.com</a></p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie Lobdell is a pastor, preacher, and writer. She currently serves as the Campus Pastor at Mount Vernon Nazarene University. She is the author of <em>Signs of Life: Resurrecting Hope Out of Ordinary Losses.</em> She is an incredibly gifted writer, and her book gives inspirational insight into how the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ impacts our everyday lives. Check out her work at <a href='http://www.stephanielobdell.com/'>http://www.stephanielobdell.com</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
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        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Stephanie Lobdell is a pastor, preacher, and writer. She currently serves as the Campus Pastor at Mount Vernon Nazarene University. She is the author of Signs of Life: Resurrecting Hope Out of Ordinary Losses. She is an incredibly gifted writer, and her book gives inspirational insight into how the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ impacts our everyday lives. Check out her work at http://www.stephanielobdell.com]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>delongben49</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2565</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
        <itunes:image href="https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/ep-logo/pbblog1812654/Signs_of_Life_2.jpg" />    </item>
    <item>
        <title>Interview with Brad Jersak: Letting go of unhealthy spirituality, and embracing a compassionate God.</title>
        <itunes:title>Interview with Brad Jersak: Letting go of unhealthy spirituality, and embracing a compassionate God.</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/brad-jersak-leaving-behind-unhealthy-spirituality-and-discovering-a-welcoming-god/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/brad-jersak-leaving-behind-unhealthy-spirituality-and-discovering-a-welcoming-god/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 04:44:29 -0400</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p> </p>
<p>In this episode, I chat with Brad Jersak about finding a healthier understanding of faith. Check out his work at his website, <a href='https://bradjersak.com/'>bradjersak.com</a></p>
<p>Also, check out this video with Brad:</p>
<p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7FKhHScgUQ'>The Gospel In Chairs</a></p>
<p> </p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> </p>
<p>In this episode, I chat with Brad Jersak about finding a healthier understanding of faith. Check out his work at his website, <a href='https://bradjersak.com/'>bradjersak.com</a></p>
<p>Also, check out this video with Brad:</p>
<p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7FKhHScgUQ'>The Gospel In Chairs</a></p>
<p> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/b87vyw/Brad_Jersak_Episode_Final_Product.mp3" length="49682332" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ 
In this episode, I chat with Brad Jersak about finding a healthier understanding of faith. Check out his work at his website, bradjersak.com
Also, check out this video with Brad:
The Gospel In Chairs
 ]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>delongben49</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>3234</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
        <itunes:image href="https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/ep-logo/pbblog1812654/more_christlike_god.jpg" />    </item>
    <item>
        <title>Dr. Paul Fitzgerald: Healing From Internalized Shame and Trauma. Part 2</title>
        <itunes:title>Dr. Paul Fitzgerald: Healing From Internalized Shame and Trauma. Part 2</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/dr-paul-fitzgerald-healing-from-internalized-shame-and-trauma-part-2/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/dr-paul-fitzgerald-healing-from-internalized-shame-and-trauma-part-2/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2019 01:14:04 -0300</pubDate>
        <guid isPermaLink="false">delongben49.podbean.com/dr-paul-fitzgerald-healing-from-internalized-shame-and-trauma-part-2-f2d5b8572e74852339a11ca3fe1c2630</guid>
                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Paul continues discussing the dynamics of internalized shame and trauma and the effects they have in our relational, spiritual, and emotional health. He also discusses ways to move forward and find healing.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul continues discussing the dynamics of internalized shame and trauma and the effects they have in our relational, spiritual, and emotional health. He also discusses ways to move forward and find healing.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/9gub87/Paul_2nd_half_full_episode.mp3" length="49887667" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Paul continues discussing the dynamics of internalized shame and trauma and the effects they have in our relational, spiritual, and emotional health. He also discusses ways to move forward and find healing.]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>delongben49</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>3489</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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        <title>Dr. Paul Fitzgerald: Healing From Internalized Shame and Trauma. Part 1</title>
        <itunes:title>Dr. Paul Fitzgerald: Healing From Internalized Shame and Trauma. Part 1</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/healing-from-internalized-shame-and-trauma-part-1/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/healing-from-internalized-shame-and-trauma-part-1/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 12:42:12 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Many people struggle with lingering shame over things they have done, or things that were done to them. Many have also grown up in dysfunctional families and spiritual communities, leaving lingering difficulties in their ability to experience life and relationships in a healthy way. In this episode, Dr. Paul Fitzgerald shares his experience and insight into these sorts of dynamics.</p>
<p> </p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people struggle with lingering shame over things they have done, or things that were done to them. Many have also grown up in dysfunctional families and spiritual communities, leaving lingering difficulties in their ability to experience life and relationships in a healthy way. In this episode, Dr. Paul Fitzgerald shares his experience and insight into these sorts of dynamics.</p>
<p> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/n5nqwv/First_Half_full_Episode.mp3" length="36355475" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Many people struggle with lingering shame over things they have done, or things that were done to them. Many have also grown up in dysfunctional families and spiritual communities, leaving lingering difficulties in their ability to experience life and relationships in a healthy way. In this episode, Dr. Paul Fitzgerald shares his experience and insight into these sorts of dynamics.
 ]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>delongben49</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>2593</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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    <item>
        <title>Apparent Faith with Karl Forehand</title>
        <itunes:title>Apparent Faith with Karl Forehand</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/apparent-faith-with-karl-forehand/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/apparent-faith-with-karl-forehand/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 02:55:19 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[



<p>How can we describe God as a good Father if he acts worse than us-namely, if he abandons and even tortures his own children when they displease him? Karl faced this issue when he realized the God he believed in did not measure up to even his own paternal instincts.  Listen as Karl shares about his book, his journey, and the realizations that have helped him move forward.</p>



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                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[



<p>How can we describe God as a good Father if he acts worse than us-namely, if he abandons and even tortures his own children when they displease him? Karl faced this issue when he realized the God he believed in did not measure up to even his own paternal instincts.  Listen as Karl shares about his book, his journey, and the realizations that have helped him move forward.</p>



]]></content:encoded>
                                    
        <enclosure url="https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/v5deei/Apparent_Faith_with_Karl_Forehand.mp3" length="18368625" type="audio/mpeg"/>
        <itunes:summary><![CDATA[



How can we describe God as a good Father if he acts worse than us-namely, if he abandons and even tortures his own children when they displease him? Karl faced this issue when he realized the God he believed in did not measure up to even his own paternal instincts.  Listen as Karl shares about his book, his journey, and the realizations that have helped him move forward.



]]></itunes:summary>
        <itunes:author>delongben49</itunes:author>
        <itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit>
        <itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
        <itunes:duration>3142</itunes:duration>
                <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
        <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
        <itunes:image href="https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/ep-logo/pbblog1812654/Apparent_faith_image_2.jpg" />    </item>
    <item>
        <title>Introduction</title>
        <itunes:title>Introduction</itunes:title>
        <link>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/introduction-1568772369/</link>
                    <comments>https://delongben49.podbean.com/e/introduction-1568772369/#comments</comments>        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2019 00:06:23 -0300</pubDate>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>This podcast stems from the book that Ben DeLong wrote called "There's a God In My Closet: Encountering the Love Who Embraces Our Skeletons." This podcast will explore that metaphor deeper through interviews and conversations.  In this episode, Ben shares how his journey has led him here.</p>
]]></description>
                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This podcast stems from the book that Ben DeLong wrote called "There's a God In My Closet: Encountering the Love Who Embraces Our Skeletons." This podcast will explore that metaphor deeper through interviews and conversations.  In this episode, Ben shares how his journey has led him here.</p>
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