We also talk about trying different recovery methods, what healing really looks like, and how recovery is not one-size-fits-all. It’s a real conversation about courage, transformation, and what it means to live an authentic life.

Megan opens up about living with what she describes as a “disease of perception,” navigating life as a professional perfectionist, and the exhausting pursuit of external validation.

Together, we explore the pivotal question at the center of it all: are you choosing love, or are you choosing fear? A thoughtful, vulnerable episode about unlearning old patterns and finding a more grounded way forward.

Her first exposure to Alcoholics Anonymous came in college, but it was a random text from an old friend inviting her to a meeting that ultimately changed the course of her life.

Jojo opens up about navigating parenthood in sobriety—the challenges, the unexpected joys, and the constant balancing act between self-care and caring for others. She also shares her perspective on boundaries, pointing out a truth many in recovery learn the hard way: unhealthy people often react poorly to healthy boundaries.

This conversation is raw, honest, and infused with Jojo’s authentic spirit—a reminder that recovery can be rock ’n’ roll in its own right.

She describes how her first meetings gave her a glimmer of hope, offering connection and understanding at a time when she felt most alone. Lorri also speaks to the unexpected gifts of sobriety, including the challenge and beauty of changing cities while sober, and the importance of embracing the feeling of being lost as a path to deeper growth and surrender.

We explored: 🔑 Bill’s 5 keys to staying sober 🧠 Why messaging in AA matters — and how it shapes individual recovery 🎓 How his work as a special ed teacher taught him to embrace the unexpected 🍔 And yes… bacon cheeseburgers too

This conversation is real, thoughtful, and full of humility. Give it a listen — and see what lands for you.

We also express deep gratitude to every guest who has shared their story and every listener who has been part of this journey. Your support, honesty, and vulnerability have made Crosstalk what it is today.

This episode is about honoring the past, staying present, and looking ahead. Thanks for being with us.

Matt shares powerful reflections on spiritual elasticity--the ability to stretch, grow, and return--and the peace that comes from being compassionately detached. 

As Mark puts it, "If you seek happiness for a lifetime, help someone else." This episode is a reminder that recovery isn't just about staying sober - it's about finding purpose, connection, and peace.