Bots & Billables https://botsandbillables.podbean.com Fri, 07 Nov 2025 16:07:02 +0200 https://podbean.com/?v=5.5 en de Copyright 2025 All rights reserved. News 1440 episodic Michael Grupp Michael Grupp No false https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/21000511/BxB_Logo_Blackwwbg8z83g.png Bots & Billables https://botsandbillables.podbean.com 144 144 Real Review ROI | Bots & Billables Episode 011 Real Review ROI | Bots & Billables Episode 011 https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/episode-10-ulf-zetterberg/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/episode-10-ulf-zetterberg/#comments Fri, 07 Nov 2025 16:07:02 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/3bbddb84-5770-3c2c-a1b2-794bcd18559b Join host Michael Grupp and Ulf Zetterberg (founder of SEAL Software) for a candid conversation on what today’s AI wave really means for contracts, CLM, and legal ops. They unpack why true transformation is slower than the hype, how to measure real ROI beyond dashboards, and why cross-functional change management still decides whether AI delivers or disappoints.

]]> Join host Michael Grupp and Ulf Zetterberg (founder of SEAL Software) for a candid conversation on what today’s AI wave really means for contracts, CLM, and legal ops. They unpack why true transformation is slower than the hype, how to measure real ROI beyond dashboards, and why cross-functional change management still decides whether AI delivers or disappoints.

]]> Michael Grupp false No 1891 11 full AI, Adoption & High Fives - Legal Geek Conference 2025 | Bots & Billables Episode 010 AI, Adoption & High Fives - Legal Geek Conference 2025 | Bots & Billables Episode 010 https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/ai-adoption-high-fives-legal-geek-conference-2025-bots-billables-episode-010/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/ai-adoption-high-fives-legal-geek-conference-2025-bots-billables-episode-010/#comments Tue, 21 Oct 2025 09:32:02 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/4fde6888-af1e-33e2-bb26-c948da73677a In this episode, we’re literally walking the streets of Legal Geek in London. Join Michael Grupp as he talks to investors, lawyers, and key players from across the legal tech community.

What drives them? What did they take away from the event? And how does being part of a Conference like Legal Geek influences people and the legal world? Get real insights and candid perspectives from the people shaping the industry. Straight from one of the most vibrant legal tech conferences in the world.

➡️ Subscribe to the Podcast and dont miss upcoming Bots & Billables episodes. For more conversations, stories, and on-the-ground moments from the intersection of law and technology.

#LegalGeek #legalai #lawsociety #lawyer #legaltech #legaltalk #legaltalks #bryter

]]> In this episode, we’re literally walking the streets of Legal Geek in London. Join Michael Grupp as he talks to investors, lawyers, and key players from across the legal tech community.

What drives them? What did they take away from the event? And how does being part of a Conference like Legal Geek influences people and the legal world? Get real insights and candid perspectives from the people shaping the industry. Straight from one of the most vibrant legal tech conferences in the world.

➡️ Subscribe to the Podcast and dont miss upcoming Bots & Billables episodes. For more conversations, stories, and on-the-ground moments from the intersection of law and technology.

#LegalGeek #legalai #lawsociety #lawyer #legaltech #legaltalk #legaltalks #bryter

]]> Michael Grupp false No 2928 10 full Legal Services of Tomorrow| Bots & Billables E009 Legal Services of Tomorrow| Bots & Billables E009 https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/legal-services-of-tomorrow-bots-billables-e009/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/legal-services-of-tomorrow-bots-billables-e009/#comments Thu, 28 Aug 2025 07:54:08 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/3ba76035-b49f-3eba-a111-8f0227ba9d0d 📌 Links & resources:

Damien on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/damienriehl/

Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-grupp/

🗞️ Articles mentioned in the episode:

FOLIO: https://openlegalstandard.org/

Browse FOLIO: https://folio.openlegalstandard.org/taxonomy/tree

Sean West's "Unruly": https://www.amazon.com/Unruly-Fighting-Politics-Upend-Business/dp/1394318456/

Vincent's website: https://vlex.com/vincent-ai

Clio acquisition PR: https://www.clio.com/about/press/clio-signs-definitive-agreement-to-acquire-vlex/

TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/damien_riehl_why_all_melodies_should_be_free_for_musicians_to_use

All the Music FAQs: http://allthemusic.info/faqs/

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]]> 📌 Links & resources:

Damien on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/damienriehl/

Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-grupp/

🗞️ Articles mentioned in the episode:

FOLIO: https://openlegalstandard.org/

Browse FOLIO: https://folio.openlegalstandard.org/taxonomy/tree

Sean West's "Unruly": https://www.amazon.com/Unruly-Fighting-Politics-Upend-Business/dp/1394318456/

Vincent's website: https://vlex.com/vincent-ai

Clio acquisition PR: https://www.clio.com/about/press/clio-signs-definitive-agreement-to-acquire-vlex/

TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/damien_riehl_why_all_melodies_should_be_free_for_musicians_to_use

All the Music FAQs: http://allthemusic.info/faqs/

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]]> Michael Grupp false No 2952 9 full The AI-Native GC Support - A Discussion with Konstantin Heilmann, founder of PAXA | Bots & Billables Episode 008 The AI-Native GC Support - A Discussion with Konstantin Heilmann, founder of PAXA | Bots & Billables Episode 008 https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/the-ai-native-gc-support-a-discussion-with-konstantin-heilmann-founder-of-paxa-bots-billables-episode-008/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/the-ai-native-gc-support-a-discussion-with-konstantin-heilmann-founder-of-paxa-bots-billables-episode-008/#comments Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:24:03 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/6f140d34-da51-33b6-815e-dc9d1c428f53 🔗 Meet us:

Michael Grupp – https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-grupp/

Konstantin Heilmann – https://www.linkedin.com/in/konstantin-heilmann-252177122/ 

Konstantin Heilmann of PAXA Partners on building an AI-native legal service, the rise of fractional GCs, and how tech is reshaping scalable, efficient legal support for fast-growing companies.

Links:

https://www.paxapartners.com/ 

]]> 🔗 Meet us:

Michael Grupp – https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-grupp/

Konstantin Heilmann – https://www.linkedin.com/in/konstantin-heilmann-252177122/ 

Konstantin Heilmann of PAXA Partners on building an AI-native legal service, the rise of fractional GCs, and how tech is reshaping scalable, efficient legal support for fast-growing companies.

Links:

https://www.paxapartners.com/ 

]]> Michael Grupp false No 2036 10 full Where is the Gold? A walk through ILTACON 2025 | Bots & Billables Episode 007 Where is the Gold? A walk through ILTACON 2025 | Bots & Billables Episode 007 https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/where-is-the-gold-a-walk-through-iltacon-2025-bots-billables-episode-007/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/where-is-the-gold-a-walk-through-iltacon-2025-bots-billables-episode-007/#comments Mon, 18 Aug 2025 10:58:53 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/a09c08b6-ba95-3c13-93b0-5838416d87d2 In this weeks episode Michael Grupp and Max Paterson from BRYTER walk through ILTACON in Washington DC and speak to a lot of people, like Noah Weisberg or Tara Waters. 

]]> In this weeks episode Michael Grupp and Max Paterson from BRYTER walk through ILTACON in Washington DC and speak to a lot of people, like Noah Weisberg or Tara Waters. 

]]> Michael Grupp false No 2996 7 full You need an AI strategy! with Mark A. Cohen | Bots and Billables Episode 006 You need an AI strategy! with Mark A. Cohen | Bots and Billables Episode 006 https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/you-need-a-strategy-with-mark-a-cohen-bots-and-billables-podcast-episode-006-audio-version/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/you-need-a-strategy-with-mark-a-cohen-bots-and-billables-podcast-episode-006-audio-version/#comments Thu, 07 Aug 2025 15:18:12 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/1dcba695-c3d4-3909-9f26-cf14e6170a3e 📌 Links & resources:

Mark onLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/legalmosaic/

Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-grupp/

 

🗞️ Articles mentioned in the episode: Legal Transformation: Why The Stakes Have Increased Dramatically

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markcohen1/2025/05/12/legal-transformation-why-the-stakes-have-increased-dramatically/

 

Chief Legal Officers: The Expanded Purview Of A Trusted Advisor

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markcohen1/2025/03/24/chief-legal-officers-the-expanded-purview-of-a-trusted-advisor/

 

Law Is Not Ready For Amazon. Is Amazon Ready For Law?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markcohen1/2020/11/23/law-is-not-ready-for-amazon-is-amazon-ready-for-law/

 

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]]> 📌 Links & resources:

Mark onLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/legalmosaic/

Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-grupp/

 

🗞️ Articles mentioned in the episode:
Legal Transformation: Why The Stakes Have Increased Dramatically

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markcohen1/2025/05/12/legal-transformation-why-the-stakes-have-increased-dramatically/

 

Chief Legal Officers: The Expanded Purview Of A Trusted Advisor

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markcohen1/2025/03/24/chief-legal-officers-the-expanded-purview-of-a-trusted-advisor/

 

Law Is Not Ready For Amazon. Is Amazon Ready For Law?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markcohen1/2020/11/23/law-is-not-ready-for-amazon-is-amazon-ready-for-law/

 

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Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite app – and leave us a rating if you enjoy the show!

]]> Michael Grupp false No 2323 9 full AI Is Not Your Lawyer: Tom Braegelmann on Why Legal Tech Still Needs Humans | Bots and Billables Episode 005 AI Is Not Your Lawyer: Tom Braegelmann on Why Legal Tech Still Needs Humans | Bots and Billables Episode 005 https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/ai-is-not-your-lawyer-tom-braegelmann-on-why-legal-tech-still-needs-humans-bots-and-billables-episode-005/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/ai-is-not-your-lawyer-tom-braegelmann-on-why-legal-tech-still-needs-humans-bots-and-billables-episode-005/#comments Fri, 01 Aug 2025 07:00:00 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/d505fdf7-7487-3ea4-8d38-05375e2fd0f1 Bots and Billables Episode 005 is out now.

This week, Michael is joined by Tom Braegelmann — lawyer, author, and one of Europe’s most vocal experts on AI in legal practice. They discuss what’s actually working in legal AI, the quiet rise of shadow adoption, and why AI is better at assisting lawyers than replacing them.

Tom also shares how prompting workshops began, why legal IT systems are slowing progress, and whether AI is helping lawyers find more gold — or just better shovels.

]]> Bots and Billables Episode 005 is out now.

This week, Michael is joined by Tom Braegelmann — lawyer, author, and one of Europe’s most vocal experts on AI in legal practice. They discuss what’s actually working in legal AI, the quiet rise of shadow adoption, and why AI is better at assisting lawyers than replacing them.

Tom also shares how prompting workshops began, why legal IT systems are slowing progress, and whether AI is helping lawyers find more gold — or just better shovels.

]]> Michael Grupp false No 2315 8 full Will there be less lawyers in the future? | Bots and Billables Episode 004 Will there be less lawyers in the future? | Bots and Billables Episode 004 https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/will-there-be-less-lawyers-in-the-future-bots-and-billables-episode-004/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/will-there-be-less-lawyers-in-the-future-bots-and-billables-episode-004/#comments Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:38:11 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/910a704b-975e-3cfb-8777-31cbc736c5be
This week, Michael tackles one of the biggest talking points in Legal right now: will AI mean there are fewer lawyers in the future? ]]> Michael Grupp false No 1839 7 full Building an AI native law firm w/ Tacit Legal's Chris Bridges | Bots and Billables Episode 003 (Audio Only) Building an AI native law firm w/ Tacit Legal's Chris Bridges | Bots and Billables Episode 003 (Audio Only) https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/building-an-ai-native-law-firm-w-tacit-legals-chris-bridges-bots-and-billables-episode-003-audio-only/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/building-an-ai-native-law-firm-w-tacit-legals-chris-bridges-bots-and-billables-episode-003-audio-only/#comments Fri, 25 Jul 2025 14:27:31 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/ff66fbc2-fe8f-30e1-98ad-8cf751900021 Bots and Billables Episode 003 is out now. This week, Michael is joined by Chris Bridges, Co-founder and COO of AI native law firm Tacit Legal, to discuss using AI for contract review, the future of the billable hour, and what is underhyped and overhyped in Legal AI.

]]> Bots and Billables Episode 003 is out now.

This week, Michael is joined by Chris Bridges, Co-founder and COO of AI native law firm Tacit Legal, to discuss using AI for contract review, the future of the billable hour, and what is underhyped and overhyped in Legal AI.

]]> Michael Grupp false No 1494 6 full Building an AI native law firm w/ Tacit Legal's Chris Bridges | Bots and Billables Episode 003 Building an AI native law firm w/ Tacit Legal's Chris Bridges | Bots and Billables Episode 003 https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/building-an-ai-native-law-firm-w-tacit-legals-chris-bridges-bots-and-billables-episode-003/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/building-an-ai-native-law-firm-w-tacit-legals-chris-bridges-bots-and-billables-episode-003/#comments Fri, 18 Jul 2025 12:05:00 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/e79cced6-71e5-328b-8ce9-90c480afc096 Bots and Billables Episode 003 is out now. This week, Michael is joined by Chris Bridges, Co-founder and COO of AI native law firm Tacit Legal, to discuss using AI for contract review, the future of the billable hour, and what is underhyped and overhyped in Legal AI.

]]> Bots and Billables Episode 003 is out now.

This week, Michael is joined by Chris Bridges, Co-founder and COO of AI native law firm Tacit Legal, to discuss using AI for contract review, the future of the billable hour, and what is underhyped and overhyped in Legal AI.

]]> Michael Grupp false No 1494 3 full Bots and Billables - Podcast Teaser Bots and Billables - Podcast Teaser https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/bots-and-billables-podcast-teaser/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/bots-and-billables-podcast-teaser/#comments Tue, 15 Jul 2025 17:01:21 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/8984d98e-6bf2-35f4-8b4c-c70808de8bb1 Michael Grupp false No 36 5 full Fair Use, Mega Mergers & Market Moves: Legal Tech’s Busy Week - Bots and Billables Episode 001 Audio only Fair Use, Mega Mergers & Market Moves: Legal Tech’s Busy Week - Bots and Billables Episode 001 Audio only https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/bots-and-billables-001-audio-only/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/bots-and-billables-001-audio-only/#comments Tue, 15 Jul 2025 17:00:50 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/2fb8034e-58cc-3f0a-b7c1-9ce33b4b4c09 Michael Grupp breaks down three big moves shaking up legal tech and AI: a U.S. court calls Anthropic’s AI training “fair use,” Clio's surprise acquisition of vLex, and LegalTechHub drops fresh insights on where contract review and workflows are converging.

]]> Michael Grupp breaks down three big moves shaking up legal tech and AI: a U.S. court calls Anthropic’s AI training “fair use,” Clio's surprise acquisition of vLex, and LegalTechHub drops fresh insights on where contract review and workflows are converging.

]]> Michael Grupp false No 1034 4 full The Future of Law: Data Doesn’t Lie — or Does It? Bots & Billables Episode 002 Audio Version The Future of Law: Data Doesn’t Lie — or Does It? Bots & Billables Episode 002 Audio Version https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/bots-and-billables-e2-audio-version/ https://botsandbillables.podbean.com/e/bots-and-billables-e2-audio-version/#comments Tue, 15 Jul 2025 16:59:54 +0200 botsandbillables.podbean.com/cacb2ab4-61a2-31f0-9456-d6f939ab0b03 Is the billable hour on its way out? Michael Grupp unpacks the latest survey data, dispatches from the Liquid Legal Summit, and what lawyers really think about AI, automation, and the future of the profession. 

]]> Is the billable hour on its way out? Michael Grupp unpacks the latest survey data, dispatches from the Liquid Legal Summit, and what lawyers really think about AI, automation, and the future of the profession. 

]]> Michael Grupp false No 1388 3 full