Dusty reflects on growing up in a small town where parsonage homes were just part of church life, and honestly, kind of made a lot of sense financially. Andrew brings a more personal angle, sharing what it was actually like living in a parsonage while his dad pastored a church.

From there, the conversation turns into a back-and-forth on the pros and cons. Is it a smart move for churches today, or does it create more complications than it solves? They talk through the financial side, the lifestyle tradeoffs, and the unique dynamics that come with living in a house owned by the church.

It’s part nostalgia, part practical discussion, and part “this could either be a blessing or a nightmare depending on the situation.”

With prom season around the corner, their church is doing its annual youth series on sex, dating, and relationships and, as expected, the Facebook forums are absolutely losing their minds. You’ve got people saying it’s “too early,” others saying “the church shouldn’t be talking about that,” and somehow a few completely unrelated church hurt stories thrown in for good measure.

Dusty brings a unique perspective since he actually taught sex education in public schools 20 years ago to 8th graders… which raises the big question: what’s the difference?

If schools can talk about sex, should the church be silent? Or should the church be leading the conversation with a biblical perspective that encourages students to wait, honor God, and make wise decisions?

The guys break down the tension, the reactions, and why this topic always seems to stir people up… while also laughing at how quickly online conversations can go completely off the rails.

It’s honest, a little chaotic, and a reminder that maybe… just maybe… avoiding the conversation isn’t the best solution.

From biblical examples to modern-day social media, they talk about how people can go from calm to chaotic real quick when they’re part of a crowd. The Pharisees saw it firsthand with Jesus, where groupthink and pressure led people to go along with things they might not have questioned on their own.

Fast forward to today, and it’s not just crowds… it’s TikTok. Viral clips, AI-generated videos, and outrage content can spread fast, shaping opinions whether it’s true or not. And let’s be honest, a lot of it has less to do with truth and more to do with clicks, views, and making money.

The guys also call out how we all use mob mentality in our own lives sometimes… including Andrew, who may or may not have rallied the “mob” to pressure Dusty into finally editing the next podcast episode.

It’s a mix of humor, real talk, and a reminder to think for yourself, check the truth, and not just follow the loudest voice in the room.

It starts with a simple idea. Sometimes we try so hard to relate to people that we will say things like, “yeah I’m an alcoholic too”… when in reality, we just liked being social, going out, and having a good time.

From there, the conversation shifts into something deeper. What actually defines an addiction?

Dusty brings up Celebrate Recovery, a Christian 12-step program, and talks about how addiction is not just about the behavior. It is about the root cause underneath it. Whether it is control, hurt, pride, fear, or approval, we tend to treat the symptoms instead of addressing what is really driving it.

They also touch on how the Beatitudes and the 12 steps in Celebrate Recovery point back to the same truth. Real change does not come from just trying harder. It comes from surrender, honesty, and letting God deal with the deeper issues going on inside us.

It is a mix of humor, self-awareness, and real talk about identity, labels, and why not every struggle needs to be exaggerated, but every heart issue still matters.

While playing Arc Raiders together, Andrew spent an entire day preparing for a big run in the game — gathering gear, planning everything out — only to die and lose all of his progress in one brutal moment. Naturally, his first instinct was to get angry and blame Dusty (which, let’s be honest, is usually a safe bet).

But instead of blowing up, arguing, or spiraling into gamer rage, Andrew did something unexpected… he disconnected from Discord and walked away.

That moment sparked a bigger conversation: when is it actually wise to just walk away?

Dusty and Andrew talk about how sometimes the best move isn’t winning the argument, chasing the attention, or letting anger take over — sometimes the healthiest and most biblical response is simply stepping away from the situation before it gets worse.

From gaming frustration to real-life conflict, they explore the idea that walking away isn’t weakness… it might actually be wisdom.

And yes, Dusty still probably caused the whole problem.

The guys talk about the rise of faith-based shows and movies, why some of them are great… and why so many of them feel like they follow the exact same formula. You know the one: dramatic music, someone crying, someone praying, cue the emotional speech.

Why does every Christian movie seem like it has to make you cry?

Dusty and Andrew wrestle with whether Christian entertainment should always be serious and emotional, or if there’s room for more creativity, humor, and just genuinely good storytelling that happens to come from a Christian perspective.

Okay, not really. But this solo episode turned into something deeper.

In this episode of the Bible Belt Bros Podcast, Andrew talks about something a lot of Christians misunderstand: believers aren’t supposed to look the same. Some people connect with God through worship music, others through scripture, service, prayer, or quiet reflection.

The Bible actually tells us that those differences are part of the design, not a problem.

From Peter and Paul to David’s messy story, Scripture shows us that God uses people with different personalities, gifts, and even failures to accomplish the same mission.

You’ll hear why:

• Unity doesn’t mean everyone thinks the same

• God often works through the parts of our story we wish we could erase

• Our everyday lives are actually our mission field

Different personalities. Different gifts. The same mission.

And don’t worry… Dusty will be back next week. Assuming he remembers to hit the publish button.

After hearing a powerful sermon from the book of Judges, they talk about what happens when people just do whatever they want with no accountability — kind of like Judges 21:25 says: everyone did what seemed right in their own eyes.

The guys connect that to what we see today with “my truth” culture, chaos in society, and people rejecting any kind of authority. They also dig into 1 Samuel 8, where Israel demanded a king instead of trusting God… and how that was really them rejecting Him as their true King.

It’s a mix of Bible, real talk, random jokes, and a reminder that the answer isn’t politics or power…

It’s Jesus.

No King But Jesus.

Instead of avoiding the tough conversations, the church has created space to wrestle with them biblically, thoughtfully, and with humility and the guys honestly love that approach.

This week, they hone in on one of the biggest debated beliefs in modern Christian circles: “once saved, always saved.” Is eternal security a biblical promise? Can someone walk away from salvation? How should Christians think about assurance, perseverance, and what it really means to be saved?

What follows is a full blown spiral. Dusty leans into the use wisdom don’t risk it roads are iced over camp, while Andrew starts waving the flag for faith, commitment, and back in my day we walked uphill both ways to church in a blizzard.

The conversation quickly devolves into stories about Oklahoma weather whiplash, Facebook comment section theology, church text alerts sent way too early, and the unspoken competition of who’s more spiritual when the forecast looks rough.

Is canceling church being responsible or being soft? Is showing up brave or just stubborn? And why does weather turn Christians into meteorologists and theologians overnight?

As usual, there’s plenty of sarcasm, a little yelling, and just enough truth to make everyone uncomfortable because nothing divides the Bible Belt quite like ice on the roads and a Sunday morning decision.

Dusty kicks things off by asking whether worship services and church life have become so familiar that we no longer walk in with any real expectation for God to move. When everything starts to feel routine, do we stop anticipating the presence and power of the Lord altogether?

Andrew pushes the conversation further by asking if our dependence on tools like Google and ChatGPT has quietly replaced the hard, personal work of studying God’s Word for ourselves. Are we outsourcing our spiritual growth instead of opening the Bible with humility, curiosity, and reverence?

Together, the guys talk honestly about comfort, convenience, and how easily awe can fade when faith becomes automated. It’s a reflective conversation that challenges listeners to slow down, re-examine their posture before God, and rediscover the wonder of encountering Him—not just learning about Him.

If you’ve ever felt spiritually “on autopilot,” this episode is for you.

In this episode of The Bible Belt Bros Podcast, Dusty and Andrew walk through the Romans Road, a simple collection of Scriptures from the book of Romans that clearly explains sin, salvation, and grace. The guys talk about why these verses have stood the test of time, how memorizing them builds confidence, and why Scripture itself does the heavy lifting when it comes to sharing your faith.

They discuss:

• Why the Romans Road is still relevant today

• How memorizing Scripture prepares you for real-life conversations

• The difference between sharing truth and trying to “win” someone

• Why simple obedience matters more than perfect delivery

Whether you’re new to the faith or grew up hearing the Romans Road, this episode is a reminder that God often uses the simplest tools to make the biggest impact.

Romans 3:23 (NLT)

For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard.

Romans 6:23 (NLT)

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 5:8 (NLT)

But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners.

Romans 10:9 (NLT)

If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 10:13 (NLT)

For “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

In this episode, we dive into the gap between marriage expectations and reality—from Bible studies together to figuring out who does the cooking and cleaning. Andrew shares what surprised him most about married life (spoiler: it's not what you think), while the hosts discuss how living together 24/7 changes everything.

Maeryn opens up about her podcast "The Reason" on Spotify and how God called her to start it. She and Gatlin share their journey of staying pure while dating, their dreams of traveling and going on mission to Africa, and how their completely different upbringings have shaped their view of marriage.

The conversation covers everything from the importance of marrying your best friend to finding hobbies you enjoy together (even if that's watching your partner play Minecraft while you crochet). Plus, plenty of hilarious tangents including Gatlin making a fishing line out of yarn and a hot dog, and why he still needs his dad's permission to download apps.

Meanwhile, Dusty has his own revelation: interns actually get paid now. This leads to a nostalgic detour about his glory days working at a video store—before Emma was even born. Classic Dusty humor (and awkward timing) strikes again when one of his stories nearly causes Emma to choke on her coffee mid-laugh.

It’s an episode packed with laughs, generational gaps, and a few heartfelt moments about calling, ministry, and growing up in faith—Bible Belt Bros style.

The guys unpack how FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) can sometimes be a good thing—especially when it pushes us toward better spiritual habits like prayer, reading Scripture, or getting plugged into community.

It’s a lighthearted, honest, and slightly sarcastic look at what it means to feel “left out” in faith—and how maybe, just maybe, God can use that feeling to pull us closer to Him.

Meanwhile, Dusty admits he’s mastered the art of “holy rest,” which suspiciously looks like watching RedZone Football all Sunday Afternoon.

The guys debate whether mountain vacations or beach vacations are the superior way to recharge — but agree that both count as long as you’re not calling a Netflix marathon “quiet time.”

So kick back, relax, and remember: get some rest… but maybe also mow your lawn at some point.

While Andrew’s out here saying what everyone’s thinking (and maybe shouldn’t), Dusty admits he’d rather send the joke privately — you know, just to the few people who won’t get offended and start a prayer chain about it.

Together they unpack why Christians sometimes hold back, how we accidentally hurt each other by pretending we’ve got it all together, and why being honest might just be the most loving thing we can do… even if it makes the group chat awkward.

So Dusty phones a friend—Rusty—for a second opinion. They unpack what went right (a soft heart, a crazy providential story, Alfredo’s number) and what stalled out (waiting for the “perfect” moment, letting fatigue and logistics win). Rusty offers practical, even playful ways to break the ice—from simple invitations to cheesy but effective conversation starters—and pushes Dusty to follow up with a text and an invite to church. Andrew, meanwhile, provides color commentary, crisis-management digs, and a reminder that most of us miss opportunities because we don’t plan for them.

If you’ve ever wanted to share your faith but froze, this is your road-trip confessional: equal parts comedy of errors, practical evangelism coaching, and a nudge to try again. The story isn’t finished—and that’s the point.

That discussion leads into a bigger question: should pastors bring politics into the pulpit? Dusty and Andrew weigh the arguments around 501(c)(3) status, the tension between personal opinions and biblical truth, and whether preaching values is the same thing as preaching politics. Along the way, they admit their own disagreements, share stories from their church backgrounds, and ask what Sunday mornings are really meant for—worship or political persuasion.

This episode isn’t about rehashing headlines. It’s about wrestling with faith, influence, and the responsibility of spiritual leaders in a divided culture.

Dusty kicks things off with an observation about how our culture has developed an incredibly short attention span, particularly through TikTok and social media. He points out how major news stories can dominate headlines for a day or two before completely disappearing when the next viral trend emerges. This cultural shift, he argues, has fundamentally changed not just how we consume information, but how artists create music. Enter Forrest Frank, a Christian artist who has seemingly cracked the code on reaching today's generation with his faith-based content.

The hosts dive deep into Forrest Frank's musical strategy, and it's fascinating to hear them break it down. Nearly all of his songs clock in under three minutes, which might seem insignificant until you realize this is entirely intentional. Songs like "Your Ways Better" and "God's Got My Back" are specifically crafted with repetitive, catchy choruses that work perfectly for TikTok dances and viral content. Dusty explains how these aren't traditional storytelling songs like you might find in country music or classic rock – they're engineered for an audience that has maybe 30 seconds to capture before scrolling to the next video. It's actually pretty genius when you think about it, even if it represents a massive shift from how music used to be created.

The conversation takes a dramatic turn when they start discussing Forrest Frank's recent skateboarding accident and subsequent recovery. The details are pretty harrowing – while skateboarding, he hit the corner of a sidewalk with tremendous force, resulting in what appeared to be a severe back fracture. The hosts describe seeing the actual footage of the accident, the X-rays showing the break, and heartbreaking videos of Forrest Frank in excruciating pain, needing help just to get into bed. This wasn't a minor injury that could be easily dismissed; this was serious, documented medical trauma.

But here's where the story gets incredible. Exactly fourteen days after the accident, Forrest Frank woke up and began his normal morning routine. Without thinking about his injury, he picked up his child before suddenly realizing he had forgotten to put on his back brace. The shocking discovery? He felt absolutely no pain. He could twist, turn, lift, and move completely normally. When he went back for follow-up X-rays, they came back completely clear – as if the break had never happened.

Andrew, who has a healthcare background, provides a really thoughtful medical analysis of what happened. He explains why this recovery is so remarkable from a scientific standpoint. Typically, when bones heal, you see calcium deposits on X-rays, and the process takes much longer, especially for someone who isn't a professional athlete. The combination of the incredibly fast timeline, complete pain relief, and clear X-rays without any signs of the previous fracture pushes this into what he calls miracle territory. While he acknowledges that rapid healing can theoretically happen naturally, he estimates the odds at about one in a billion.

What makes this episode particularly compelling is how the hosts use Forrest Frank's story as a launching point for a broader discussion about miracles and faith. They identify three different types of miracles found in the Bible: faith-based healing, where God responds to someone's active faith; sovereign choice miracles, where God acts regardless of the person's faith or requests; and what they call circumstantial miracles, where God intervenes to protect or further His purposes. Forrest Frank's healing seems to fit into this third category – not because he had extraordinary faith or was actively seeking a miracle, but potentially because God had bigger plans for his ministry that a long recovery would have derailed.

The conversation gets really honest when they address the elephant in the room – the jealousy and frustration that some Christians feel when they see others receive miracles while they continue to wait for their own. They talk about Chance, a member of their church who has been in a wheelchair for years despite countless prayers and mission trips. The hosts don't shy away from how difficult and unfair this can feel, but they also share how Chance has chosen to embrace his circumstances rather than become bitter, even participating in church skits with humor and grace.

This leads to perhaps the most profound part of the episode, where they tackle the mystery of why God performs some miracles and not others. They reference Paul's "thorn in the flesh" that God chose not to remove, and Timothy's stomach problems that Paul simply told him to treat with wine (basically, take some medicine). The uncomfortable truth they present is that even with perfect faith, if healing isn't in God's plan, it may not happen. But they also emphasize that God can use people powerfully in their circumstances, whether healed or not.

What I appreciate about Andrew and Dusty's approach is their honesty about not having all the answers. They admit that the mystery of miracles is frustrating, especially in a culture that demands explanations for everything. They compare it to people who obsess over understanding every detail of the book of Revelation, arguing that sometimes the point isn't to have all the answers figured out, but to focus on being ready and faithful regardless of what we don't understand.

The hosts wrap up by acknowledging that Forrest Frank's story will likely follow the typical TikTok cycle – hugely popular for a brief moment before being replaced by the next viral topic. But they suggest that maybe there's something deeper here worth considering, beyond just the viral moment. Whether you classify Forrest Frank's recovery as a miracle, an incredibly unlikely natural healing, or something in between, it raises important questions about faith, expectation, and how we respond when our prayers seem to go unanswered.

Throughout the episode, Andrew and Dusty maintain their characteristic conversational style, admitting their own limitations and biases while exploring these complex topics. They're not trying to provide definitive answers or tell people what to believe – they're simply thinking out loud about a remarkable story and what it might mean for people of faith navigating similar questions in their own lives.

The guys jump into a conversation that picks up from the last episode—this time digging into the idea of a whole church doing the same Bible study together. Andrew has... thoughts. Like, a lot of them. And Dusty? He mostly listens, throws in a few jokes, and keeps the mic from catching on fire.

They talk about how their church is doing a 40-day reading plan through Matthew and Romans. The idea is that everyone’s on the same page—literally. If someone in accounting is reading the same thing as someone on the worship team, it makes spiritual conversations easier and less weird. You can be like, “Hey, what’d you learn today?” and it doesn’t feel awkward.

But Andrew’s not totally sold. He’s got concerns about whether these group studies are Spirit-led or just pastor-led. He wonders if we’re really following God—or just doing what the church tells us. He brings up fasting, church schedules, leadership styles, and even his own issues with submitting to authority. It’s honest. It’s a little messy. It’s definitely real.

Dusty pushes back a bit, reminding Andrew that submitting to leadership isn’t always bad. Sometimes you just do it. Even if you don’t feel it. Even if it feels like a fad. Because growth can still happen. And also... it’s just 40 days.

They also talk about how church people are all at different spiritual levels. So one plan might feel too basic for some and too deep for others. But Dusty points out—it’s only 10 minutes a day. You can still go deeper on your own, and it might even open up chances for discipleship.

By the end, Andrew admits it’s not really a leadership problem. It’s more of a “me” problem. He’s still doing the study, even though he doesn’t love it. And Dusty, well, he basically wins therapy today.

If you've ever struggled with church plans, leadership, or just doing something you don’t feel like doing, this episode is for you. Also, if you're a tier 3 Christian subscriber... Andrew sees you.

The hosts discuss their church's decision to move away from the traditional Falls Creek camp experience, opting instead to rent out an entire camp facility for their youth ministry. This strategic choice allowed them greater flexibility, cost savings, and the ability to customize their program without being constrained by other camps' rules and schedules. Dusty explains how this approach enabled them to accommodate their growing youth group more effectively while maintaining their unique ministry style.

The camp theme "Best is Yet to Come" takes on special significance as they reveal that their current youth pastor, Kyle Henderson, will be transitioning to lead pastor in September, adding an element of transition and anticipation to the week's activities.

Dusty provides detailed insight into the camp's daily rhythm, which was intentionally designed to maximize spiritual growth and minimize distractions. The structured day began at 7:30 AM with loud music to wake everyone up, followed immediately by mandatory quiet time with God - a practice that set the spiritual tone for each day. This was followed by breakfast, morning worship, grade-specific small group breakouts (segregated by gender and grade level), lunch, and specialized afternoon breakout sessions.

The afternoon sessions offered students choices based on their interests and calling, including sessions on ministry calling, Christian business leadership (led by Sarah from Boulder Coffee discussing the balance between service and sustainability), and worship leadership that emphasized leading people to Christ rather than just performing songs well.

The hosts discuss the camp's worship music, highlighting two significant songs that became anthems for the week. "Before and After" served as a powerful testimony song, particularly meaningful to Marin, a recent high school graduate developing as a worship leader. Despite losing her voice during camp, Marin's experience became a teaching moment about true worship leadership - focusing on leading people to encounter God rather than perfect vocal performance.

"Hail Hill Lion of Judah" emerged as the high-energy, participatory song that got everyone moving and shouting. Dusty notes the challenge of translating these camp-specific songs to regular Sunday morning services, acknowledging that what works in the heightened atmosphere of camp may not translate directly to weekly worship experiences.

The conversation takes a thoughtful turn as they address the spiritual intensity of camp, including baptisms and rededications. However, they also tackle the concerning pattern they observed of students making repeated commitments - with one student reportedly getting "saved" five times and baptized multiple times during just this one camp week. This leads to a broader discussion about the effectiveness of emotional decision-making versus genuine life transformation.

Andrew shares his frustration with what he perceives as circular movement rather than forward progress, questioning whether students are truly growing or simply repeating emotional experiences without substantial change. The hosts emphasize that their youth group "The Movement" should represent actual forward motion in spiritual growth, not repetitive cycles of the same decisions.

Perhaps the most substantial portion of the episode focuses on the phenomenon of "camp high" - the spiritual and emotional elevation students experience during intensive Christian retreats and camps. Rather than dismissing this experience, the hosts provide biblical grounding for understanding spiritual highs.

Dusty draws parallels to Moses' experience on Mount Sinai, where his face glowed from being in God's presence, with that glow gradually fading over time. Andrew adds the account from Mark 9, where Peter, James, and John witnessed Jesus' transfiguration and Peter's desire to build shelters and remain on the mountain permanently. This biblical precedent validates the reality of spiritual highs while also demonstrating that the normal pattern involves returning to the valley for ministry and daily life.

The hosts provide practical analysis of why camp experiences are so powerful. The removal of technological distractions (all phones were confiscated) combined with structured spiritual disciplines creates an environment where students can focus entirely on God without the constant pull of social media, entertainment, and other diversions.

The daily rhythm of beginning each day with Bible study and prayer, followed by worship, teaching, small group discussion, and peer accountability, creates a spiritual immersion experience that most students never experience in their regular lives. This intensive focus on spiritual matters, combined with the community aspect of shared experience with peers, generates powerful emotional and spiritual responses.

The discussion acknowledges the inevitable reality that camp highs fade when students return to their normal routines. The hosts explain that students typically revert to sleeping in, consuming entertainment media, and following the same patterns that dominated their lives before camp. The structured spiritual disciplines that created the camp high are abandoned in favor of familiar comfort patterns.

However, rather than seeing this as entirely negative, they frame it using hiking metaphors. Just as mountain climbers must descend from peaks to continue their journey to other mountains, spiritual highs are meant to be launching pads for continued growth rather than permanent destinations. The valley experiences, while less emotionally intense, are where actual ministry and life application occur.

Andrew provides specific, actionable advice for parents wanting to support their children's post-camp spiritual growth. As a parent himself of a camp attendee, he shares personal insights about the unique opportunity parents have compared to youth pastors. While youth leaders might have 2-3 hours of influence per week, parents have access to all the other hours.

His recommendations include asking deeper spiritual questions rather than surface-level check-ins, inquiring about what God is teaching them, offering to do Bible studies together, asking about specific prayer needs, and demonstrating personal spiritual disciplines. He shares his commitment to pray over his daughter each morning before school as a practical way to model putting God first while encouraging her to do the same with her friends.

The hosts emphasize that parents shouldn't try to recreate the emotional intensity of camp but should focus on consistent, authentic spiritual engagement that doesn't feel forced or overly spiritualized.

Toward the episode's end, Dusty shares some vulnerable thoughts about emotional authenticity in Christian settings. He expresses concern about what he perceives as manufactured emotional responses in some worship settings, where people seem to be trying to conjure feelings rather than allowing genuine spiritual encounters to unfold naturally.

While acknowledging his introvert tendencies may influence this perspective, he advocates for authentic spiritual experiences that don't require constant emotional intensity. He distinguishes between genuine spiritual moments that naturally produce tears or strong emotions versus situations where people seem to be performing expected emotional responses.

The episode concludes with clear challenges for both students and parents. Students are encouraged to view camp as a launching pad rather than a destination, continuing the spiritual momentum rather than waiting for the next emotional high. The hosts challenge students who were baptized or made commitments to focus on baptizing others next year rather than repeating the same decisions.

Parents receive the challenge to become better spiritual leaders in their homes, recognizing that sustained spiritual growth happens through consistent daily choices rather than periodic intense experiences.

The overarching message emphasizes that "The Movement" should represent actual forward progress in spiritual maturity, not circular patterns of repeated emotional experiences without corresponding life change.

• Youth ministry effectiveness and authentic spiritual growth
• The biblical basis for spiritual highs and their proper role in Christian development
• Practical parenting strategies for supporting post-camp spiritual growth
• The importance of consistent spiritual disciplines over periodic emotional experiences
• Creating authentic Christian community that extends beyond camp settings
• Balancing emotional authenticity with genuine spiritual transformation

This episode offers both practical ministry insights and thoughtful theological reflection on how intensive Christian experiences can be leveraged for long-term spiritual growth rather than becoming substitutes for daily discipleship.

The episode begins with the hosts sharing an unexpected email from Kerri, a listener who discovered their podcast on Amazon Prime Music and recognized them from their shared hometown of Aurora. This serendipitous connection leads to Dusty recounting a deeply embarrassing "core memory" from his youth - an awkwardly phrased question to Kerri's chicken farmer father that has apparently become family legend. The story perfectly encapsulates Dusty's self-aware humor about his social awkwardness, as he admits to accidentally insulting people without realizing it.

The conversation naturally transitions into a nostalgic discussion about the iconic "What Would Jesus Do" (WWJD) bracelets that dominated Christian culture in the late 90s and early 2000s. The hosts humorously theorize about why these bracelets disappeared, with Andrew jokingly suggesting "we all just now realized what Jesus would do, so we didn't have to keep asking." They explore whether these trends might cycle back like fashion trends, comparing them to bell-bottoms.

The discussion expands to include other Christian acronyms and sayings from their youth, including "WAJD" (Walk As Jesus Did) from their former pastor Rusty, and "FROG" (Fully Rely On God). They playfully suggest these four-letter Christian acronyms might have been alternatives to actual four-letter words, imagining someone stubbing their toe and exclaiming "What Would Jesus Do!"

The hosts dive deep into the fashion trends that defined their Christian teenage years. They reminisce about wooden cross necklaces, nail jewelry twisted into cross shapes, and the practice of shaving religious symbols into their hair. Andrew shares a particularly amusing story about asking Pastor Rusty to shave a cross in his head, which ended up looking more like a plus sign, earning him the reputation as "a positive dude around school."

Dusty shares a more recent and touching story about shaving a fish symbol in his hair when his mother was diagnosed with breast cancer, incorporating both the Christian fish symbol and a breast cancer ribbon before dyeing it pink. This moment shows how these symbolic gestures evolved from teenage fashion statements to meaningful expressions of faith and support.

One of the most thoughtful segments addresses the changes in "See You at the Pole," the annual prayer event at school flagpoles. The hosts contrast their authentic, student-led experiences with what they perceive as the more commercialized, production-heavy versions that developed over time. They express concern about how the original grassroots, student-driven nature of the event was lost when churches began organizing elaborate productions around it, complete with song leaders and structured programs.

This discussion reveals their deeper understanding of how institutionalization can sometimes diminish the authentic spiritual impact of organic movements. They emphasize how powerful it was when students gathered on their own initiative, without pastoral oversight or structured programming.

The conversation takes an interesting turn into church facility design and youth ministry philosophy. They discuss the trend of separate youth buildings that was popular during their teenage years, complete with superior sound systems, game rooms, and coffee house atmospheres. Dusty fondly remembers their church's coffee house venue and the ability to shut down entire city blocks for outdoor concerts and events - something only possible in their small town of Aurora.

Andrew introduces a more critical perspective, agreeing with their friend Kyle about the inefficiency of separate youth facilities. They explore how churches like Life Church have adopted more economical models by sharing resources across multiple locations, allowing for better quality equipment and materials through bulk purchasing and unified programming.

No discussion of 90s/2000s Christian culture would be complete without addressing the music scene. The hosts reminisce about Christian concerts and the surprisingly common practice of moshing at Christian rock shows. They mention specific bands like TFK (Thousand Foot Krutch) and Disciple, noting how these bands eventually discouraged moshing as it became too violent.

They contrast their memories of "Christian moshing" - which involved more jumping around and crowd surfing - with the fighting-style moshing that developed later. This leads to fond memories of moshing to unlikely songs, including Veggie Tales theme songs and Bible Man, showcasing the playful and sometimes absurd nature of their youth group experiences.

The hosts take a humorous look back at Christian children's programming, particularly Veggie Tales and Bible Man. While acknowledging these shows were meaningful to them as children, they admit to being shocked by how poorly they hold up today. Dusty shares his failed attempts to get his grandchildren interested in these shows, leading to the realization that what seemed high-budget and exciting in their youth now appears low-budget and cheesy.

They also discuss the Christian music scene of their era, mentioning influential bands like Audio Adrenaline, DC Talk, and Jars of Clay. The conversation touches on how Christian music served as an alternative to secular artists, with the distinctive deep-voiced radio DJs who would recommend Christian bands as alternatives to popular secular acts.

One of the most vivid memories shared involves "CD burning parties," where young Christians would literally burn their secular music collections as acts of spiritual commitment. Andrew describes participating in these events during the early days of his faith journey, admitting he had some CDs with explicit content that he was reluctant to give up.

The hosts compare different approaches to these events - some churches would burn the CDs in fires, while others (like Andrew's father did as a pastor) would create towers from the CDs and offer one-for-one trades for Christian alternatives. Dusty humorously admits his only secular CD at the time was a Dixie Chicks album, making his participation more about joining the group activity than making a significant sacrifice.

Throughout the episode, the hosts demonstrate remarkable self-awareness about their aging perspectives, frequently joking about sounding like "old men on front porches yelling at traffic" or "yelling at kids walking across our grass." They worry about whether they're still connecting with their target demographic or if they've become too nostalgic and out of touch.

This self-reflection adds depth to their reminiscence, as they acknowledge that their rose-colored memories might not reflect the complete reality of their experiences. They balance appreciation for their formative experiences with honest assessment of how those same cultural elements appear from their current adult perspectives.

Woven throughout the episode is a deep appreciation for small-town church community. The hosts paint vivid pictures of their experiences at First Baptist Aurora, from hide-and-seek games during lock-ins in the scary boiler room to hanging out in the women's bathroom (with appropriate precautions) because it had the most comfortable couch.

They describe a church culture that was more intimate and less polished than contemporary megachurch experiences, where the same building served multiple purposes and where everyone knew each other's families. This creates a nostalgic portrait of a time when church felt more like an extended family community center than a professional religious organization.

The hosts make several humorous references to their podcast production, including Dusty's tendency to accidentally insult people and his struggles with public speaking despite sounding confident on the podcast. They joke about extensive editing (though they claim not to script their conversations) and Andrew's reluctance to plan ahead.

These behind-the-scenes glimpses add authenticity to their presentation and help listeners understand the personalities behind the voices. Their self-deprecating humor and willingness to share embarrassing stories create an atmosphere of genuine friendship and relatability.

This episode ultimately celebrates the power of shared cultural experiences to create lasting bonds and meaningful memories. While the hosts poke fun at many aspects of their youth culture, they do so with genuine affection and recognition of how these experiences shaped their faith journeys and friendships.

The episode serves as both a time capsule of late 90s/early 2000s Christian culture and a meditation on how communities form around shared symbols, experiences, and awkward teenage moments. It's a reminder that even the cheesiest cultural elements can create profound connections between people and contribute to authentic spiritual development.

For listeners who lived through this era of Christian culture, the episode offers validation and community around shared experiences. For younger listeners, it provides insight into how Christian youth culture has evolved and perhaps inspiration for creating their own meaningful traditions and symbols.

Dusty opens the episode with possibly the most humble-brag spiritual story ever told. After struggling with consistent quiet time (while his wife crushes it daily), he wakes up to find a Post-it note on his desk that says "Me first" - obviously from the Lord himself. Or was it from "the Lord" (aka his wife, who he's nicknamed after the Holy Spirit because they say suspiciously similar things)? Either way, Dusty's convinced he's operating on a special blue Post-it note level of divine communication.

Biblical Deep Dives (Sort Of):

• Matthew 1: They tackle the lineage chapter that everyone skips, discovering that Jesus's family tree includes some pretty questionable characters (looking at you, Rahab from their infamous "Swipe Left" episode)
• Matthew 2: The wise men weren't at the manger (plot twist!), and King Herod's baby-murdering rampage leads to some surprisingly deep insights about what people do when they're protecting their territory
• Matthew 3: John the Baptist gets rebranded as "John the Non-Denom" based on his decidedly non-traditional Baptist lifestyle of eating bugs and wearing camel hair
• Matthew 4: Jesus's 40-day wilderness fast becomes a lesson in proper ministry preparation, plus the guys realize Jesus started his ministry at 29 (younger than both of them, which hits different)
• Matthew 5: The Sermon on the Mount becomes a discussion about "over-giving" and why both hosts refuse to sign up for church volunteer opportunities (they're too important to be scheduled in advance, obviously)

Between the laughs, there are actually some solid insights about God using imperfect people, the importance of fasting before major decisions, not banking on your parents' faith, and the radical concept of over-blessing people who might not deserve it.

This episode perfectly captures what the Bible Belt Bros do best - finding the humor in trying to be good Christians while being completely honest about their struggles, pride, and the weird dynamics of church culture. From Post-it note prophecies to refusing to sign up for volunteer opportunities, they're keeping it real about what it actually looks like to do life in the church.

Whether you're crushing your daily devotions or struggling to make it past day 5, this episode will have you laughing, thinking, and maybe feeling a little better about your own messy faith journey. Plus, you'll learn why you should never skip the genealogy chapters and why John the Baptist was definitely more non-denominational than Southern Baptist.

Perfect for: Anyone who's ever felt spiritually inadequate, wondered about the weird stories in the Bible, or needed a good laugh about church life. Also perfect for people

This is the Bible Belt Bros Podcast, where today we talk about something spiritual, something sacred, and something that’s honestly kind of annoying—church hurt. That glorious blend of disappointment, weird rules, and that one guy who took your seat for the last time.

I'm talking about the Southern Baptist Convention's annual meeting, where they decided to target—and I quote—"pornography, sports betting, and same-sex marriage, as well as willful childlessness." Now, I get the first one. I understand the marriage thing. But sports betting? Really? You're coming for my FanDuel account?

And "willful childlessness"? What's next, are they going to start monitoring who's using birth control? Are they going to have a fertility committee? "Excuse me, Brother Johnson, we noticed you only have two kids. Care to explain?"

Here's where it gets personal. I'm sitting there listening to this news, and all I can think about is my church fantasy football league. Because apparently, according to these Southern Baptist overlords, I can't have a prize at the end of the season. No money involved. Just pure, competitive sadness.

You know what happens when you play fantasy football with no money on the line? People quit. They just stop. Week 6 rolls around, their team is 1-5, and they're like, "Well, I'm done setting my lineup." Meanwhile, you're stuck with some guy who's been starting players on bye weeks for the last month because he checked out mentally sometime around Halloween.

I've tried those church leagues with no money. It's like watching paint dry, except the paint is more exciting because at least it's making progress. These people will draft a team, lose three games, and then disappear faster than the church donuts after Sunday service.

"Put ten dollars on it for a full season, guys. Come on." But no, apparently that's gambling now. That's the devil's work. Next thing you know, they'll be telling us we can't flip coins to see who pays for lunch because that's "games of chance."

Living in Oklahoma, this hits different. We finally got some legal gambling options—you can play FanDuel, you can do prop betting on sites like PrizePicks. You pick two or three players, choose over or under on their stats, and if you're right, your five dollars can multiply.

But here's the thing about these bets: they're really hard to win. Somebody's always going to get hurt. Somebody's going to have a bad game. Somebody's going to get in foul trouble. Just the other day, some guy placed a seven-game parlay and got all the way to the Thunder game. He was projected to win $238,000 off a ten-dollar bet. The Thunder lost with three seconds left on the clock.

That's not gambling addiction—that's just Oklahoma sports breaking your heart in the most expensive way possible.

I'll be honest with you: I used to bet on baseball, and it was the most frustrating experience of my life. Think about it—the best players in the league are batting .300. That means they fail seven out of ten times. And these are the good players.

You'll bet on a team for a doubleheader, thinking, "They're going to win today." They lose the first game, then they win the second game 10-0, and you're sitting there like, "What did you not just do that the first game when I had money on it?"

Baseball betting taught me that sports betting is just paying money to be disappointed in new and creative ways. It's like marriage, but with worse odds.

But here's the thing that really got me thinking. While the Southern Baptist Convention is worried about my five-dollar fantasy football bets, they're completely missing the real problem in our churches: gossip.

Our pastor Michael preached on gossip recently, and honestly, it was one of his best sermons. Not because he wasn't preaching at me for once—though that was refreshing—but because he hit on something that actually matters.

You know what gossip is? It's talking about someone else's issues with no intent to help them or solve the problem. Simple as that. And churches are absolutely terrible about this.

Here's how gossip works in church: "Hey, we need to pray for so-and-so because they're really struggling. They got drunk last week, and they're making poor decisions, and their marriage is falling apart, and did you hear about what happened at their job?"

And everyone's like, "Oh yes, let's pray for them." But really, we just want the details. We want to know what happened. We want to be in the know.

I used to make fun of people who gave "unspoken prayer requests." Like, if you're not going to tell me what's wrong, how am I supposed to pray for you? I need the gossip—I mean, the details—to properly intercede with the Lord.

But now I get it. "Please pray for my friend Ben. He's dealing with some health issues." That's it. That's all you need to say. You don't need to go into his entire medical history and how he's not taking care of himself and how his wife is frustrated and how their kids are acting out because of the stress at home.

There was this meme someone at our church shared: a picture of church people at lunch after a sermon on gossip, and everyone's just sitting there in complete silence. Not talking. Because everything we usually talk about is about other people.

That hit me hard. Like, what can we actually talk about? News? That's mostly gossip. Sports talk radio? That's definitely gossip. "Where's Aaron Rodgers going to play next season? The Steelers? The Vikings? He's feeling this way about this team." That's all just hearsay.

Even when journalists have two sources to verify a story, those sources could be getting their information from the same person. It's like a game of telephone, except the telephone is on a podcast and everyone's pretending it's news.

The worst part is when we dress up gossip as accountability or spiritual concern. "I'm going to our pastor because I need to know how to handle this situation with so-and-so."

But here's what really happened: I just told the pastor something they didn't know about someone else, and now they're in a weird position. They can't unknow what I told them, but they also can't act on it without revealing that I was the source.

It's like gossip with a theological degree.

I actually looked this up because I was curious. Turns out gossip releases dopamine and oxytocin in your brain. Dopamine is the reward chemical, and oxytocin is the bonding hormone. So when you gossip, you literally get high from it, and you feel closer to the person you're gossiping with.

Meanwhile, if you're the person being gossiped about, your body releases cortisol—the stress hormone. So gossip is basically a drug that makes the gossipers feel good and the gossipee feel terrible.

It's like a social pyramid scheme, except instead of essential oils, we're dealing essential information.

This explains why reality TV is so popular. Love Island, Big Brother, The Bachelor—they're all just professionally produced gossip. "What did JoJo say about so-and-so? I gotta watch this episode to find out."

These shows take a full day's worth of footage and edit it down to one hour, specifically choosing the most dramatic moments. You don't see the thirty minutes before the argument where everyone was getting along fine. You just see the conflict.

It's gossip with a production budget.

Since we're talking about gossip and being above reproach, I should probably stop telling people I've slept in another woman's bed.

Here's the context: Growing up, I hung out at our pastor's house a lot. Their daughter Megan had an older sister, and I was friends with the sister's boyfriend. One night, I ended up sleeping in the sister's bed because of some complicated living room situation.

The next morning, I got woken up by her boyfriend tapping on the window to give her a good morning kiss before work. I opened the window, and he was just like, "Oh, hey." Zero concern. Zero jealousy. Because everyone knew there was absolutely nothing inappropriate happening.

But I still tell people, "Yeah, I slept in her bed," and just let them draw their own conclusions. It's a great icebreaker, but probably not the best example of being above reproach.

Our pastor's wife was here a couple weeks ago and heard me tell this story. She was like, "You did what now?"

Yeah, maybe I should stop leading with that story at church potlucks.

The sermon gave some practical advice on how to stop gossip in its tracks. Here are the methods:

The Direct Approach: "Should I go talk to this person about what you just told me?" This makes people realize they're gossiping real quick.

The Redirect: "I'm not part of this. I don't need to hear this."

The Spiritual Pivot: "This sounds like something we should just pray about."

I prefer the direct approach because I don't mind making things awkward. But if you're more polite than me (which isn't hard), the redirect works pretty well.

Here's what I think is really happening. We're so focused on external sins—sports betting, drinking, entertainment choices—that we're ignoring the relational sins that are actually destroying our communities.

Gossip breaks down trust. It destroys relationships. It makes people feel like they can't be vulnerable or honest because someone's going to turn their struggles into prayer request gossip.

I've lost a good friend recently because of this exact issue. Not because of gambling or drinking or any of the things the Southern Baptist Convention is worried about. Because of gossip and broken trust.

So what's the solution? How do we shift from gossip to grace?

First, we need to be more direct with people. Most gossip starts because we're avoiding a conversation we should have and instead having conversations we shouldn't have. If someone does something that bothers you, talk to them about it. Not in the heat of the moment, but a few days later when emotions have cooled down.

Second, we need to challenge our church leaders to create environments for restoration instead of condemnation. People should feel safe to share their struggles without worrying about it becoming the subject of next week's prayer requests.

Third, we need to remember that gossip dies when it doesn't have an audience. Stop putting wood on the fire. When someone starts gossiping to you, shut it down.

Here's the funny thing about the Southern Baptist Convention targeting sports betting: they're probably missing the real addiction in their churches. The people who are most vocal about banning certain behaviors are often the ones struggling with them.

As our pastor Michael said, a friend once told him, "I like it when you preach because I always know what you're struggling with." Michael preached on gossip, so apparently, he's struggling with gossip.

Which means the Southern Baptist Convention is struggling with sports betting, pornography, same-sex marriage, and willful childlessness. That's quite a list for 10,000 people to tackle in one weekend.

The church isn't supposed to be a rumor mill. It's supposed to be a hospital. And healing starts when we speak life into people instead of whispering about them in hallways.

So while the Southern Baptist Convention is worried about my ten-dollar fantasy football league, maybe they should focus on the fact that their people can't have a conversation without it turning into gossip about someone who isn't there to defend themselves.

But hey, at least we can still gossip about this podcast to our friends. That's not gossip—that's marketing.

Turns out QuickTrip has gotten smart about their McDonald's-style hot coffee lawsuits. They've apparently just turned down the temperature so when their coffee inevitably shoots out of the spout directly into your lap, you don't actually get burned. Smart business move. Terrible for my get-rich-quick scheme.

This minor disappointment happened on my way to grab coffee because I'd run out of espresso at home. My wife and I have this auto-ship thing for coffee, but we're always pushing it back because we think we're not drinking it fast enough. Classic overestimation of our own self-control. It's like when you buy a gym membership in January and then push back your first workout until February... then March... then next January.

But here's the thing – even without coffee, even after failing at accidental lawsuit fortune, I still had to face the day. And that meant confronting a question that's been bouncing around Christian circles for decades: Do I really need to do a daily quiet time?

First, let's establish what we're talking about here. A quiet time, for the uninitiated, is that sacred Christian ritual where you're supposed to read your Bible, pray, journal, and sit in contemplative silence while God presumably downloads wisdom directly into your brain like some kind of spiritual Wi-Fi connection.

It's the Christian equivalent of kale smoothies – everyone knows they should be doing it, most people aren't, and the ones who are won't stop talking about it.

I've been doing a version of this for seven and a half years now, thanks to a men's group from church. We dissolved the group six months ago, but for seven straight years, we'd message each other every morning with a simple "done" after completing whatever Bible study we were working through. Usually five to ten-minute lessons – we're not talking about seminary-level theological deep dives here.

But here's where it gets weird: I've been doing my quiet time in the bathroom. On the toilet, specifically. I used to use an actual paper Bible, but then I realized that was probably disgusting, so now I just use my phone and a Bible app. Not sponsored, by the way, though if Life Church wants to cut me a check for the endorsement, I'm available.

This bathroom setup has worked for me because it's consistent. I wake up, I go to the bathroom, I read. It's part of my morning routine like brushing my teeth or wondering why I stayed up so late watching YouTube videos about conspiracy theories involving birds (different story for another time).

But lately, I've been wondering: Am I doing this because it's genuinely helping my spiritual life, or am I just checking a box? Is this relationship-building with God, or is it just ritual at this point?

Here's the uncomfortable truth: A lot of my quiet time motivation comes from pride. For seven years, I couldn't let the men's group down by not texting "done." Even now, months after the group dissolved, I still feel this compulsion to maintain the streak. It's like those people who refuse to break their Wordle streak even though they've stopped enjoying the game.

There's also the modeling aspect. We're told as Christians that we should be examples to others, especially to our families. Our pastor makes sure to do his quiet time in a visible place so his family can see him prioritizing God. Meanwhile, I'm in the bathroom with my phone. Not exactly the inspiring spiritual leadership moment you'd see on a church brochure.

My wife knows I do it, but my daughter doesn't. Though to be fair, explaining to a kid that Daddy has special God time in the bathroom might create more questions than answers.

So here's the big question that started this whole mental journey: Is a daily quiet time actually required? Like, biblically speaking?

I've looked, and I can't find anywhere in Scripture that says, "Thou shalt read these words every single morning, preferably while caffeinated." It's not the eleventh commandment. Moses didn't drop a third tablet that said, "Also, get a Bible app."

Jesus did set a precedent by withdrawing to quiet places to pray and talk with God. He'd leave his disciples behind – who, let's be honest, couldn't even stay awake to pray with him for an hour when he really needed them. So there's definitely biblical support for the concept of intentional time with God.

But required? Logistically speaking, no. There's no verse that says you have to do a daily quiet time or you're going to Christian jail.

Spiritually speaking? That's where it gets complicated.

Here's the thing about spiritual disciplines: they're a lot like physical exercise. Nobody's going to die if they skip the gym for a week. But skip it for months or years, and you'll definitely notice the difference in your overall health and strength.

The same principle applies spiritually. You won't immediately keel over and die if you skip your Bible reading for a few days. But spiritual death – that slow drift away from God – usually doesn't happen through one major event. It happens gradually, through small neglects and tiny compromises that add up over time.

Dave Ramsey has this illustration about being one degree off course. If you're aiming straight ahead but you're just one degree off, after ten years you'll be miles away from where you wanted to be. The same thing happens spiritually. Small inconsistencies in spiritual discipline can lead to big gaps in your relationship with God over time.

So while a daily quiet time might not be legally required by biblical law, it's probably spiritually necessary if you want to keep growing in your faith. It's like saying you don't technically need to eat vegetables every day to survive. Technically true, but good luck trying to thrive without them.

Let me level with you: I could probably ask nine out of ten of my Christian friends if they have a regular quiet time, and nine of them would say no. I'm being generous including myself as the one "yes" in that made-up statistic.

This isn't meant to shame anyone. It's just the reality. Most Christians know they should be doing this, but most Christians aren't. We're spiritually surviving rather than thriving.

And here's the thing – even if you don't have a formal "quiet time," you might still be connecting with God throughout your day. Maybe you pray while driving. Maybe you listen to Christian music. Maybe you have conversations with God while you're working alone (like I do – one of the perks of my job is that no one's usually there to hear me talking to myself/God).

But there's something to be said for intentional, focused time. Something different about starting your day by prioritizing God over everything else – including your phone, your coffee, your news feed, your anxiety about the day ahead.

I refuse to pick up my phone or turn on the TV before I do my quiet time. God gets first priority. Well, after using the bathroom, but that's simultaneous, so it doesn't count.

This isn't about legalism or earning points with God. It's about setting the tone for the day. When you start by acknowledging God, thanking him, reading his words, and listening for his voice, it changes how you see everything else that happens.

You're more likely to notice small blessings – like when someone lets you merge in traffic (thank you, God, for that random act of kindness). You're more likely to see opportunities to serve others. You're more likely to have patience when things don't go according to plan.

It's like putting on spiritual goggles that help you recognize God's presence and work throughout your day.

Here's something I learned from a friend: instead of asking "Do I have to do a quiet time?" try flipping the question. Ask yourself: "Why wouldn't I want to spend time with the one who saved me, sustains me, and is the source of all wisdom, guidance, and peace?"

When you put it that way, it's not about obligation anymore. It's about relationship.

We all love our moms, right? We say our moms gave us life. But God is the one who truly gave us life – physical, spiritual, eternal. So why wouldn't we want to treat him at least as well as we treat our moms? Most of us call or text our moms regularly. We make time for them. We prioritize them.

Shouldn't we do the same for God?

This brings us to the heart of the matter: Are you spiritually surviving or thriving?

Surviving means you're getting by. You go to church on Sundays. You pray when you're in trouble. You know the basic Bible stories. You try to be a good person.

Thriving means you're growing. You're becoming more like Jesus. You're seeing God work in your life. You're equipped to help others in their faith journey. You have peace that doesn't make sense given your circumstances.

The difference often comes down to consistency in spiritual disciplines. Not because God loves you more when you read your Bible every day, but because regular time with God changes you. It strengthens your spiritual muscles. It tunes your ear to hear his voice. It aligns your heart with his priorities.

Look, I'm not going to tell you that you have to wake up at 5 AM and spend two hours in contemplative prayer while birds sing outside your window and sunbeams stream through your perfectly organized home office.

Maybe your quiet time is five minutes. Maybe it's while you're drinking your coffee. Maybe it's during your lunch break. Maybe it's listening to the Bible on audio while you commute.

The key is consistency and intentionality. Anytime with God is better than no time with God.

But here's what I've learned after seven and a half years of bathroom Bible study: those few minutes in the morning set the tone for everything else that follows. Even on days when I wake up grumpy (which shouldn't happen since I'm supposedly a morning person), even when I don't feel like doing it, I always feel better after.

It's never a waste of time. It's not that bad. Actually, it's usually pretty good.

So do Christians need to do a daily quiet time? Legally? No. There's no biblical commandment requiring it.

Practically? If you want to grow spiritually, if you want to thrive rather than just survive, if you want to recognize God's presence and work in your daily life – then yes, some form of regular, intentional time with God is essential.

It doesn't have to look like anyone else's quiet time. It doesn't have to be perfect. It doesn't have to be Instagram-worthy.

It just has to be yours.

And who knows? Maybe after a few months of consistency, instead of asking "Do I have to do this?" you'll start asking "Why wouldn't I want to do this?"

Just maybe don't do it in the bathroom. Or do – I'm not judging. God meets us where we are, even if where we are happens to be on the toilet at 6 AM with a Bible app and questionable life choices.

The important thing is showing up. Even without the coffee. Even after failing to become a QuickTrip millionaire. Even when you don't feel like it.

Because sometimes the most important conversations happen in the most ordinary moments, with the most ordinary people, in the most ordinary places.

Even bathrooms.

Especially bathrooms, apparently.

Welcome to what churches across America like to call "the summer slump," which sounds way more official than "everyone decided the lake is more important than Jesus for three months straight."

Let me paint you a picture. School lets out, and suddenly church attendance starts looking like a game of musical chairs where half the chairs just walked away. We're talking about what the Bible Bros Podcast guys call "the VVV's of summer"—Vacations, VBS, and Vanishing volunteers. Though honestly, that third V could just as easily stand for "Very convenient excuses."

It's fascinating how creative people get with their summer church avoidance. You've got your classic "we're traveling" folks, which is legitimate until you realize their "travel" is to the lake that's literally 10 minutes from the church. Then there are the parents who suddenly discover their kid is the next Derek Jeter and has to play in every single baseball tournament within a three-state radius. Funny how little Timmy wasn't quite so athletically gifted during the winter worship services.

But here's what really gets me—and this is straight from the mouths of youth pastors who've seen it all—sometimes people will say they can't make it to church because of their kid's tournament, but they'll "watch online instead." Then Sunday comes around, and you can literally see on Facebook that they're not online either. The church streaming platform has a participant list, Karen. We can see you're not there. You're probably at Cracker Barrel talking about how the sermon "just hits different" when you're eating biscuits and gravy.

Now, not every reason for missing church is bogus. Take mission trips, for instance. Some churches do these incredible, life-changing experiences where you're actually ministering 24/7. The guys on the podcast talked about trips to Peru where they were doing street theater, going door to door, buying out entire bakeries to give away free bread while telling people about the Bread of Life. That's the real deal right there.

But then you've got the other kind of mission trips—the ones that sound more like summer camp with a sprinkle of Jesus dust on top. "Yeah, we're gonna do VBS for two hours, then we're going zip-lining. Tomorrow we'll have a Bible study, then it's go-kart time!"

Look, I'm not saying fun is bad. But somewhere along the way, "mission trip" started meaning "vacation with a tax write-off." When your mission trip itinerary looks like a Disney World FastPass schedule, maybe we need to have a conversation about priorities.

The funniest part is how these things have evolved over the years. Used to be, mission trips meant sleeping on the floor in buildings with dead rats, outdoor showers with those solar water bags hanging in the sun, and PVC pipe plumbing that may or may not actually work. Now it's like, "We're staying at the Hampton Inn because the kids need their rest for tomorrow's ministry... and jet skiing."

Can we talk about lake people for a second? Because if your church is anywhere near a body of water larger than a puddle, you know exactly what I'm talking about. These are the folks who treat their boat like it's their church pew from June through August.

One of the podcast hosts actually became a Christian because of lake people, in the most backward way possible. His friend invited him to the lake, he said he had to go to church first, and the guy was like, "Well, that sounds lame, but I really want to go to the lake, so... fine." Boom. Life changed. Sometimes God works through our selfishness, apparently.

But here's the thing about lake people—they're not necessarily bad people. They're just people who've discovered that sitting on a pontoon boat with a cooler full of sandwiches feels a lot more peaceful than sitting in a sanctuary with a screaming toddler three rows up. Can you blame them? Have you ever tried to have a spiritual moment while someone's kid is doing interpretive dance to "Amazing Grace"?

And then we have the parents who've been convinced that their 8-year-old's weekend baseball tournament is somehow more important than, you know, worshiping the Creator of the universe. These tournaments are always exactly two hours away—never one hour, never three hours. Always two hours. Just far enough that you "can't possibly make it back for church" but close enough that you definitely could if you actually wanted to.

The best part is when these same parents complain that their kids aren't getting enough spiritual foundation at home. Well, maybe if you spent Sunday mornings in church instead of screaming at a teenager in stripes about a questionable call at second base, little Johnny might learn something about grace and forgiveness.

But sports schedules are sacred in America. More sacred than actual sacred things, apparently. We'll move heaven and earth to make sure kids don't miss practice, but missing church? That's just part of growing up, right?

While we're on the subject of summer church struggles, let's talk about volunteers. Or rather, the complete lack thereof.

Picture this: You're the worship leader, and you've got your summer schedule all planned out. Then June hits, and suddenly everyone remembers they have somewhere else to be. Your usual guitar player? Family reunion. Your drummer? Mission trip (the good kind). Your backup singer? Lake house. Your other backup singer? Different lake house.

So now you're standing there on Sunday morning with what essentially amounts to a church karaoke setup, desperately texting people at 8:47 AM: "Can you play tambourine? Please? I'll buy you lunch."

The really frustrating part is when people don't even try to find replacements. They just text you the night before like, "Hey, can't make it tomorrow. Family thing." Oh, a family thing? On the same weekend you've known about for six months? Revolutionary.

And God bless the people who are always there, because they end up getting scheduled for everything. There's always that one guy who shows up every single Sunday no matter what, so he becomes the default backup for everyone else's vacation plans. "Oh, Jeff'll do it. Jeff doesn't have a life." Jeff's probably at home right now, looking at his calendar and realizing he's scheduled for the next eight Sundays straight because everyone else discovered the lake.

Here's where things get really interesting, though. One of the podcast hosts went on this beautiful rant about how everything Christians do together has to be "extra Christian." Like, why can't you just have a pool party without someone breaking out their worn copy of "Jesus Calling" for an impromptu devotional?

Picture it: You're at someone's house, everyone's having a good time, the hot dogs are perfectly grilled, and then suddenly: "Okay everyone, gather around! Before we jump in the pool, let's have a quick devotion. I've been reading through Genesis, and I just want to share something that really spoke to my heart..."

Meanwhile, the kids are standing there in their swimsuits, chlorine is evaporating, and everyone's pretending to pay attention while mentally calculating how long this is going to take.

Why does every single Christian gathering need a spiritual component? Can't we just... hang out? Can't we just be friends who happen to go to the same church without turning every moment into a teaching opportunity?

Band practice is apparently the worst. You're supposed to start at six, but people roll in at 6:15 because Johnny's still eating his dinner (at church, apparently). Then instead of just running through the songs, someone's got to ask for prayer requests. Then there's a devotional. Then finally, maybe, you can actually practice the songs you're supposed to play on Sunday.

It's like we've forgotten that sometimes fellowship is just... fellowship. Not every conversation needs to end with "let's pray about it." Sometimes you can just eat a burger and complain about your job like normal humans.

So what's the answer to the summer church exodus? Well, the obvious one is just... don't leave. Make a decision not to miss. Revolutionary concept, I know.

But here's the thing—churches are air-conditioned. If it's hot outside, it's not hot inside (unless the AC's broken, in which case, all bets are off). If you're staying home because it's too hot, save that excuse for winter when you'll stay home because it's too cold.

The real issue isn't weather or sports or even lakes. The real issue is priorities. We've somehow convinced ourselves that worship is optional when life gets busy or fun. But maybe—and hear me out here—maybe the times when we least feel like going to church are exactly the times we need it most.

One pastor puts it this way: don't put God first, put God only. Everything else should revolve around that decision, not the other way around.

Look, nobody's saying you can't go on vacation or that your kids shouldn't play sports or that boats are instruments of Satan. The point is balance, and maybe a little honesty about our motivations.

If you're going to miss church, at least own it. Don't pretend you're going to watch online when everyone knows you're going to be too busy perfecting your cornhole technique at the family reunion. And if you're a volunteer who needs to be gone, maybe—crazy idea—help find your own replacement instead of leaving your leader scrambling at the last minute.

Better yet, if you know you're going to be out of town, find a church where you're going and actually go. Novel concept: worship doesn't have to happen in your home church building to count.

And for the love of all that's holy, can we please have one pool party this summer that doesn't require a group devotion? Sometimes the most spiritual thing you can do is just be present with people without making it weird.

Summer church attendance will probably always be a thing. People will always find reasons to skip out when the weather's nice and vacation season hits. But maybe if we were a little more honest about it—and a little more intentional about staying connected to our faith communities even when life gets fun—we wouldn't see such a dramatic exodus every June.

Besides, if you think about it, some of the best spiritual moments happen outside traditional church settings anyway. That mission trip to Mexico where you slept on the floor and dealt with outdoor showers? Probably more transformative than three months of comfortable Sunday services.

Just maybe don't try to convince everyone that your lake weekend is basically the same thing as a mission trip. We can see right through that one.

And please, for everyone's sake, stop trying to turn every casual Christian gathering into a small group meeting. Sometimes we just want to eat hot dogs and go swimming without discussing the theological implications of pool maintenance.

Trust me, the kingdom of God will survive your pool party just fine without a devotional.

If you're new here, this isn't your grandma’s Bible study. This is a Christian Comedy Podcast made for the guys in the back row of church — the ones who definitely don’t have a WWJD bracelet but still know what Jesus would do... because they probably made a meme about it.

If you're looking for a Christian Podcast for Men that's not all protein powder, prayer circles, and yelling — you've found it.

The episode kicks off with some classic confusion. Andrew opens the podcast solo, claiming to be alone — until Dusty shows up like a sitcom character entering stage left. Immediately, we’re off-script, talking about chairs and dogs, and whether Andrew needs either of them. Spoiler: he does not.

But eventually, they land the plane: today’s episode is about swiping left or right on Bible characters. Not romantically. This isn’t Christian Mingle. It’s more like: “Would we be friends with this guy?”

The rules are simple:

• Swipe right = You’d let them in your life. Friends. Bros. Small group material.

• Swipe left = Hard pass. Let them go be someone else’s burden.

As Dusty clarifies: “Not to sleep with them… we’re both married.”

This is not about biblical compatibility. It’s about vibes. And maybe a little theology. But mostly vibes.

Andrew, the self-proclaimed introvert, threatens to swipe left on everyone and delete the app entirely. Relatable.

Adam. The OG human. Made from dust. Given the Garden of Eden and told not to eat one fruit — and, well, here we are.

His resume:

• Made in God’s image.

• Given dominion over the Earth.

• Took a nap and woke up with a wife.

• Walked closely with God.

Sounds like a solid dude… except for the whole "plunge humanity into sin" thing. But hey, nobody’s perfect.

Andrew reads the description like a dating profile: “Innocent. Works with his hands. Loves animals. Bit of a fruit issue.”

Dusty, channeling every youth pastor ever, considers it: "If you’re looking for a godly man to be your best friend..."

So... swipe right? Swipe left? They never fully commit. Which, honestly, is very on brand for this show.

What makes this episode peak Christian Comedy Podcast isn’t the theological depth — though Adam’s backstory does get some airtime — it’s the tone.

Dusty’s goofy. Andrew’s dry. Together, they somehow make ancient Bible figures feel like candidates on a reality show.

And they do it without ever actually getting to another character. That’s right. One episode. One guy. Adam. And still 30 minutes of content.

This is a Christian Podcast for Men who can’t commit to a Bible reading plan but can commit to laughing about it. And honestly? That’s a ministry.

While the episode starts with the promise of a whole list of Bible characters, it very quickly becomes a character study of Adam, some dog commentary, and a lot of side trails. And that’s what makes this podcast work.

It’s not polished. It’s not prepped. It’s two dudes riffing about scripture like they’re on a coffee break at a men’s retreat.

If you’re the type of guy who’s tried to lead a Bible study with memes, or if your theology degree came from YouTube comments — the Bible Belt Bros are your people.

This episode isn’t deep. But it’s honest. It’s funny. And it’s exactly what the Christian Comedy Podcast world needed — a swipe mechanic for Bible characters.

So if you’re tired of serious sermons and just want a laugh, maybe even at the expense of Adam — grab your metaphorical phone and swipe right on this show.

Andrew and Dusty begin with a signature tangent: Andrew has a new life plan. He’s applying to be a zookeeper. This revelation comes out of nowhere and isn't revisited with any serious theological backing—Andrew just thinks it’d be fun to work with animals and carry a stick around. It’s an entertaining cold open that sets the tone for the rest of the episode: part hilarious detour, part unfiltered theological musing.

From there, Andrew jumps into his soapbox of the week, questioning whether Jesus ever got on a soapbox himself. This thought led him down a short-lived research rabbit hole where he promptly forgot all the facts he found. The core of the soapbox was a reflection on how little of Jesus’ words are actually recorded in the Bible. Andrew estimated that the average person speaks around 16,000 words a day, and with only 37,000 to 57,000 of Jesus’ words recorded, we may only have about two and a half days’ worth of His teachings. This realization leads the hosts to muse about the massive gaps between what Jesus did and what was documented.

That theological pondering quickly transitions into the main topic: spiritual gifts and personality tests. Andrew recently took an online spiritual gifts test and shares the results. His highest-ranking gift is "Helps," while scoring zero in "Discernment." Dusty immediately challenges both the legitimacy of the test and the results. His response to "Helps" being a spiritual gift is sarcastic and dismissive: "That’s not a gift, that’s being a good person."

The conversation turns into a comedic breakdown of the spiritual gifts Andrew allegedly has. Dusty goes down the list from the test and calls out each one, essentially rejecting them as false based on his own observations. Andrew’s attempts to defend his gifts are countered by Dusty’s suspicion that Andrew just clicked random answers to finish the test quickly. The comedic tension lies in Dusty’s confidence that he knows Andrew better than the test does—and his high score in "Discernment" is his excuse for not believing a word of it.

Andrew tries to explain that the value of these tests lies in helping people understand where they fit within the church. He reflects on the fivefold ministry—apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers—and how different gifts align with different roles. He acknowledges that he’s probably more of a behind-the-scenes support person, not someone who should be leading from the front.

Despite the jokes, there’s a sincere moment where Andrew explains how understanding his gifts gave him confidence in knowing he doesn’t have to perform upfront to serve. This leads to a brief mention of how churches often misuse or overemphasize certain gifts while undervaluing others like Helps.

Dusty, however, maintains a skeptical tone throughout, poking fun at the idea that clicking through multiple-choice questions can reveal deep spiritual truths. He particularly critiques the "Discernment" category, arguing that someone without it could still use a "gift of Helps" in all the wrong ways—"like helping a guy rob a bank."

The episode never fully lands on whether spiritual gift tests are helpful, accurate, or biblical, but the guys do land on one thing: they’re entertaining. Andrew’s earnest attempt to understand his calling and Dusty’s relentless commentary make for a dynamic mix of introspection and comic relief.

As the episode wraps, the spiritual gift discussion takes a backseat to more sarcasm and lighthearted back-and-forth. Andrew continues defending the test. Dusty continues roasting him. And in the end, listeners are left with a few laughs, some lingering questions about their own gifts, and the image of Andrew at the Tulsa Zoo holding a stick.

This episode doesn’t offer clear answers about spiritual gifts or the effectiveness of online tests. But it does offer an honest look at two friends navigating faith with humor, skepticism, and the occasional zookeeper application.

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The conversation opens like most deep theological discussions do—at the mall.

Turns out both guys used to work there. Andrew was Dusty’s boss. (Let that sink in. Andrew, the man currently co-hosting a podcast in what we assume is a spare bedroom, once supervised someone else’s paycheck.) They recall working at a watch store, greeting mall walkers at ungodly hours, and the time Dusty got his gas siphoned right out of his truck. Because nothing says “servant leadership” like buying your own gas back.

Also, Scheels. Apparently it’s the only reason anyone goes to the mall anymore—unless your kids want to ride a carousel. Which brings us to the first theological point: kids ruin everything. Even your hatred for malls.

So Texas introduced something called “Promise Month,” and if you're thinking it has anything to do with abstinence, purity rings, or teenage awkwardness, you're not alone. That was the assumption too.

But no, “Promise Month” is a Christian-themed state proposal meant to highlight America’s biblical roots—with an extra helping of “mandated prayer and Bible time in schools.” Because if there’s anything kids love more than algebra, it’s Old Testament genealogy during fourth period.

It was proposed in April. Announced in May. Which is like throwing a surprise birthday party a month late and expecting people to still bring presents.

Meanwhile in Oklahoma, the state superintendent rolled out a plan requiring every student from grades 5 through 12 to be equipped with a King James Bible. That’s right—the version where even the verbs are confused.

It’s not so much the Bible requirement that raised eyebrows, but the very specific demand for that translation. As Dusty put it, “We don’t need all those 'thee’s' and 'thou’s' confusing a bunch of fifth graders.” Honestly, trying to decipher King James in middle school is like making a toddler learn to type on a typewriter.

What followed was a comedic deep-dive into all the Bible versions that could (or absolutely should not) be used in classrooms, including the Message Bible, children’s Bibles, and the somewhat mythical "Gangsta Bible"—which we’re 85% sure started as a meme and ended up in a dorm room somewhere.

The guys don’t shy away from the meat of the issue: Should religious content be forced in public schools?

Andrew, ever the realist, points out that forcing biblical teaching through legislation rarely works. It's like trying to make someone fall in love with your grandma’s casserole recipe—it doesn't matter how many times you make it, they’re still gonna complain about the mushrooms.

Dusty argues that teaching the Bible as historical text (rather than spiritual doctrine) makes sense, the same way we discuss Gandhi, Buddha, or even Elvis (we assume) in world history. It’s context. Not conversion.

That’s the line the hosts keep coming back to—Christianity, at its best, invites rather than mandates.

Just when you think things couldn’t get more theologically spicy, Alabama comes through with Ten Commandments in classrooms and a full-on Pride flag ban. Because if there’s one thing that really gets kids interested in moral values, it’s wall décor.

Dusty and Andrew play devil’s advocate here (ironically). If you’re going to allow Christian symbols in public spaces, shouldn’t other religions get equal footing? Do we need a wall of competing sacred texts in every classroom like some kind of spiritual debate team?

The most repeated line in this episode might be: “We force feed everything.” Politics. Religion. Sports opinions. Even marketing emails (Dusty would know—he works in marketing).

The takeaway? Everyone wants their beliefs visible. Until someone else’s beliefs show up. Then suddenly we all remember we have First Amendment rights we haven't read since high school.

Pivoting ever so gracefully, the podcast veers into the topic of Oklahoma’s potential ban on cell phones in schools. This sparked what may be the most unintentionally hilarious section of the episode.

Apparently, Dusty's son starts his Tesla with his phone. Which feels like a very specific attack on Elon Musk. And now the state wants to take away that phone, essentially asking kids to walk home in 115-degree heat because Dad's truck won't start without an iOS update.

The argument here isn’t really about Teslas, though. It’s about access. If every kid already has a Bible on their phone, do we really need to stock physical copies like it’s 1995? Are we legislating for the sake of appearances or for actual impact?

The episode wraps this thread with a brutal mic drop: “We don’t have a Bible access problem. We have a gospel-sharing problem.”

Yikes. That one hurt, even if it was wrapped in sarcasm.

In true Christian comedy podcast fashion, the episode ends on an unexpectedly convicting note. Dusty and Andrew tackle discipleship—or rather, the lack of it. Youth pastors get one hour a week. Sunday mornings get less than that if you factor in coffee breaks and awkward small talk.

The duo rightly point out that schools may be the biggest mission field we’re ignoring. But instead of training students to disciple others, we hand them a verse, a pat on the back, and maybe a free T-shirt if it’s camp week.

Andrew even references the classic "disciple multiplication" model: one person leads another to Christ, who leads another, who leads another. You know, like a holy pyramid scheme—except the only thing we’re selling is eternity.

If there’s one thread that ties the entire episode together, it’s this: Laws can’t save people. Posters of the Ten Commandments can’t change hearts. And no one’s turning their life around because of an April-themed Christian celebration wedged between Easter candy and allergy season.

What changes people is people.

The relationships. The conversations. The quiet moments of discipleship that aren’t broadcasted or forced, but lived out.

And if that doesn’t work, maybe just ban phones and call it a revival.

At Bible Belt Bros, we’re not trying to solve America’s religious education crisis. We’re just two guys with mics, trying to figure out why anyone would still print a King James Bible with gold-leaf pages like it’s a treasure map.

But we are trying to have honest conversations about what it means to be Christians in the real world. And sometimes that includes sarcasm, mall nostalgia, and educational policy debates we’re not qualified to lead.

If you’re looking for a Christian podcast that isn’t afraid to laugh at itself, question the culture, and admit that youth group pizza was the best part of Wednesday nights—then you’ve come to the right place.

For the past 16 years, Rusty has faithfully led Church That Matters, shaping its culture, guiding its mission, and investing deeply in the lives of those around him. Now, as he prepares to step into a new role as SEND Network’s Church Planting Director for Oklahoma, Rusty reflects on the journey that brought him here and the next season ahead.

Together, we explore what it means to hand off leadership well, the importance of a strong local church presence, and how that ties into a broader vision for church planting and apostolic mission work. Rusty shares candid thoughts on balancing ministry and family, the emotional weight of transition, and the lasting impact of a church that stays rooted while reaching outward.

We close with reflections on church culture, leadership dynamics, and the future of Church That Matters as it continues to grow and evolve.

This conversation is a meaningful look at legacy, leadership, and the ongoing mission of the church.

Kyle shares the unexpected journey that’s leading him from youth ministry (and whatever else needed doing) to becoming the Lead Pastor this September. We dig into what that shift looks like, the excitement and challenges ahead, and how God sometimes calls you into roles you didn’t even apply for.

This episode is packed with leadership insights, fun stories, and a sneak peek at what’s coming for Church That Matters. Whether you’re in ministry, thinking about leadership transitions, or just here for the Bros banter, this convo with Kyle is one you don’t want to miss.

Some people feel called to be a Lead Pastor. Others get called into the office and find out they already are one.

That was basically Kyle Henderson’s story on this episode of the Bible Belt Bros Christian Comedy Podcast. A longtime youth pastor, volunteer wrangler, and guy-who-fixes-everything, Kyle didn’t so much apply to be the new Lead Pastor at Church That Matters — he kind of tripped into it.

It started like most things in church leadership: casually. A conversation at a staff retreat. Someone asked, “Who do you think would be a good Lead Pastor if something ever happened?”

Kyle threw out a name or two.

Then the Lead Pastor looked him in the eye and said, “What if it’s you?”

Cue awkward laughter. Cue silence. Cue every youth pastor's worst nightmare: responsibility.

Kyle wasn’t gunning for it. He wasn’t dropping hints. But apparently everyone else around him had already seen it. The only person not in the loop… was Kyle.

There’s something beautifully ironic about youth pastors. They’re often treated like they’re in the minors, like their job is some kind of ministry spring training.

But they’re also the ones cleaning up messes, managing chaos, mentoring students, fixing tech, and running services when the real adults are out of town.

Kyle was that guy. He did all the things. The late nights. The camps. The sermons. The leadership development. The emergency plumbing issues.

He wasn’t climbing a ladder. He was just doing what needed to be done.

And then suddenly, someone handed him the ladder and said, "You’re at the top now."

There’s something kind of biblical about this. Moses didn’t want the job. Neither did Jonah. Or Paul. Or honestly, most people God used.

The ones who aren’t chasing the spotlight are usually the ones most ready for it. Not because they have the best ideas, but because they’ve learned how to serve without needing credit.

Kyle didn’t say yes right away. He wrestled with it. Felt the weight of it. Wondered if he could do it.

That’s how you know someone’s probably ready: they’re scared.

Kyle’s years in youth ministry were preparation. Not on purpose. More like spiritual bootcamp with dodgeballs.

He learned to improvise. To build teams. To pray through crises. To disciple students. To host events with zero budget and leftover pizza.

That kind of ministry doesn’t give you a stage. It gives you scars.

But it also gives you a deep sense of how people actually grow — not in the hype, but in the hard stuff.

And when the Lead Pastor seat opened up, Kyle wasn’t the obvious choice because of charisma. He was the right choice because of consistency.

What makes Kyle different is he’s not trying to be a CEO pastor.

He’s not coming in with a 42-page vision plan or rebranding the church overnight. He’s not here to be famous. He’s here to be faithful.

His biggest fear? Not preaching. Not meetings. Not the pressure.

His fear is letting people down. Missing what God is saying. Getting caught up in noise and forgetting why he’s even up there.

Which — let’s be honest — is the most honest thing a pastor can say.

If you’re in ministry, or ever sat under a leader who didn’t want the job but still showed up — this episode hits different.

It’s a reminder that God still promotes people through faithfulness, not self-promotion.

That churches still grow when the guy up front isn’t trying to go viral.

That maybe, just maybe, the best kind of leader is the one who never wanted to be one in the first place.

If you’re out here stacking chairs, running youth lock-ins, and wondering if anyone notices — they do. More importantly, God does.

And when the time’s right, don’t be surprised if He hands you a mic you didn’t ask for.

Just ask Kyle.

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The episode opens with a bang — quite literally — as Jeremy learns about Dusty and Andrew's church events that include shotgun giveaways and bacon-themed men’s ministries. If that sounds wild to you, buckle up. It only gets better (or weirder). The guys dive into their own church experiences, where sermons get recycled like old youth group T-shirts and pastors sometimes unintentionally moonlight as stand-up comics.

Jeremy brings a unique perspective as someone who once preached weekly and now headlines comedy shows. He discusses how difficult it is to write fresh content — whether it’s a sermon or a comedy set — and gives credit to pastors who have to deliver new material week after week. The trio explore the fine line between originality and influence, and how the internet has made it nearly impossible for comics and pastors alike to avoid being accused of plagiarism, even when it’s just parallel thinking.

Throughout the episode, they unpack:

• Why sermon recycling is the church’s version of a "greatest hits" tour

• How Jeremy’s journey from youth pastor to stand-up comic shaped his voice and storytelling style

• Why pastors and comedians both get called out for plagiarism (but only one gets cancelled)

• What it means to bring vulnerability and real-life baggage into faith communities — without the fake Sunday morning filter

• The awkward overlap between gun culture and church culture, and why Jeremy thinks it doesn’t always align with the gospel (and why that probably won’t go over well in Oklahoma)

From hilarious stories about bombing at casinos to thoughtful discussions about faith, fallibility, and finding your voice, this episode proves that deep conversations don’t have to be boring — and funny people can still love Jesus.

Jeremy also shares details about his new comedy album “Almost a Grown Man”, currently streaming on Spotify, Apple, and everywhere else fine comedy is sold (or streamed for free). If you're tired of church podcasts that feel like lectures or stand-up that lacks soul, this episode hits the sweet spot.

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We’ve all seen it (or been it)—that faithful volunteer who’s running slides, leading worship, brewing the coffee, and fixing the WiFi router—all before the pastor finishes his first cup of coffee. But here’s the kicker: sometimes leaders are unintentionally the biggest culprits, calling on the same willing souls again and again—even on their so-called “day off”.

So in true Bible Belt Bros fashion, we tackle this serious subject with a healthy dose of pet peeves, real talk, and plenty of laughs. We challenge pastors and church leaders: Be better shepherds. Don’t just work your sheep to the bone—protect them from themselves and their inability to say no. (Yeah, we went there.)

We also share personal stories, a few confessions, and throw down the gauntlet for churches to take ownership of burnout. Don’t just blame the volunteer for “overcommitting.” Maybe… just maybe… we all need to rethink the system.

🔥 What You’ll Get:

• Tips on how leaders can spot burnout before it starts

• Why “no” is a holy word

• A few pet peeves (because we couldn't resist)

• Encouragement for both volunteers and leaders to do ministry in a healthier way

Whether you’re a pastor, a serial volunteer, or someone who’s just here for the funny rants, this one’s for you.

Press play, have a laugh, and let’s make church life better—one “no” at a time.

Yeah... buckle up.

This week, we talk about how Satan doesn’t just use what’s playing on the radio — sometimes he twists what’s playing at church. After all, he used to be Heaven’s worship leader. If anyone knows how to influence people through music, it’s him.

We break down some of the sneaky ways even well-meaning worship songs can hit wrong — like singing about God's promises when you're fresh off a loss, or trying to “feel” something during worship and wondering if God’s even there when you don’t. Sometimes the timing of a song can bring comfort, and other times... it just stings.

We also hit on:

• How vague lyrics can slowly mess with your theology

• The pressure to look or feel “spiritual enough” during worship

• Why emotions aren’t always the best spiritual compass

• And how even good songs can trigger comparison, doubt, or frustration if we’re not careful

This episode isn’t anti-Christian music (we love a good worship jam), but it is a reminder to keep our eyes on the One we're singing to — not just how the music makes us feel.

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We're talking all things messy – the emotional fallout, the unexpected drama, and how these situations can tear a congregation apart. Dusty and Andrew share their own experiences, both the good and the bad, and we'll be getting real about how people react when their spiritual leader steps down.

So it's time to TESTIFY! In this episode, Brett Mortaruolo shares his story in hopes that you will realize that, no matter the battle, you're not alone.

The Bible Belt Bros podcast is a new Christian podcast for men that is both informative and entertaining. Hosted by Dusty Hope and Andrew Fisher, two lifelong friends who share a passion for church and Christianity, this podcast challenges the way we think about church and some of the traditional practices we do, all while keeping things light and funny.

Bible Belt Bros is the perfect podcast for men who want to engage with their faith in a fun and engaging way. Each episode is packed with insightful commentary and lively banter, making it a great listen for both longtime churchgoers and new Christians.

Whether you're looking for a new Christian podcast for men to add to your playlist or just want a good laugh while exploring your faith, Bible Belt Bros is the perfect choice. So tune in today and join the conversation!

Their podcast sparks a conversation about Dog obedience and if it's similar to our faith in Christ. Are we obeying God out of love, fear, trust, or for the rewards? Then in typical fashion, we get sidetracked talking about Aaron Rodgers, grounding our kids, and Fantasy Football. Enjoy :-)

The Bible Belt Bros podcast is a new Christian podcast for men that is both informative and entertaining. Hosted by Dusty Hope and Andrew Fisher, two lifelong friends who share a passion for church and Christianity, this podcast challenges the way we think about church and some of the traditional practices we do, all while keeping things light and funny.

Bible Belt Bros is the perfect podcast for men who want to engage with their faith in a fun and engaging way. Each episode is packed with insightful commentary and lively banter, making it a great listen for both longtime churchgoers and new Christians.

Whether you're looking for a new Christian podcast for men to add to your playlist or just want a good laugh while exploring your faith, Bible Belt Bros is the perfect choice. So tune in today and join the conversation!

So this episode is a round-a-bout topic of forgiveness as we share some dumb things we've said to our wives.

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Hey everyone. Welcome to the Bible belt bros podcast. Getting back into the groove. I know how to do the intros now. Better practicing. So that was better. Good job. Yeah. So, well, Andrew. We're we're back here. We, we we're doing another one of these things. It took a week off because I had to work in, I was out of town and was lazy when I got back. But here we are again on schedule in the morning. Yes. May Jason coffee. Yes. And I was late, but you guys don't know that. Well, they do now. It's not always me. That is the failure in this pond today. I just wanted to go over, some, a funny story, Andrew, and I wondered a few, possibly had some say. Kind of stories. So yeah, like a week ago, two weeks ago was my birthday, 30 years old, 37. And I actually forgot to tell you happy birthday on your birthday, my friend, everybody else on Facebook that are casual acquaintances. Totally happy birthday, but not. I know, I don't really have Facebook to remind me at 37 years old, if I'm still offended by that, then I have better, bigger problems. So like, come on, like, today's my anniversary. And I had to remind my wife a couple of days ago, our anniversary is coming up and she's like, oh really? And I was like, yes. How many years am I good? Wait for Facebook to tell me that one, but it's been eight years. So I actually forgot my anniversary this year as well. Oh my gosh. We are just great husband. I think that's going to be the podcast episode today is just talking about how awesome we are as husbands. And so it's strange because. I'm the one who never forgets our anniversary. I always have to remind my wife, but this year I forgot that I forgot your birthday. Well, I didn't forget your birthday. Cause I remembered the night before because it was house church night. Oh yeah. But I was like, well, I'll tell him happy birthday tomorrow. Cause tomorrow is his actual birthday. Should've told me early. Yep, sure. And I failed. I had a real weird wreck, not a weird request. My wife was like, Hey, what do you want to eat for your birthday? And, you know, w what do you want me to make? And so I was like, I was thinking, I was like, I don't know, whatever. And then I was like, oh, cause you know, she used to bake all the time and I just love that. I mean that's I gained like 40 pounds after we met because just all the good, good bacon and, and yummy is that she used to always make things. I mean, she still makes them just not as often. And so, I had to cover myself there. She still does a great job. Um, I was like, oh, you used to make these cake balls that were just so. Freaking amazing. And I got was so addicted to them and they were just so good and I just kept going on and she was like cake balls. And I was like, yeah, I used to remember you, like you would get cake and roll up in a ball. I don't know how else to explain like hate balls are she goes, I know what cake balls are. Idiot. I never made those. So then I'm thinking I was like, Oh, no, this is a previous relationship. I was like, ah, that cake balls. So I got, I got cracked brownies. That was the thing. And that was actually mad. It was like, oh, this is way better than getting cake balls, crack brownies. That's what I was wanting the whole time. And so she was like the whole time while she's making. The brownies in the living room or in the kitchen, I'm hearing all these cake balls. So I'm digging myself out of a grave when, when it comes to asking any kind of desserts from now on, I have to, double-check not know spur of the moment. So what you're saying, go on and on and on about how much I love cake balls and like, pretend like she didn't even know what they were. And I was like, you know what cake balls are as you named me to cover for you and bring some cake balls and you like, oh, it was Andrew's cake balls. That's right. Yeah. Well, the guys that work, we're like, dude, we are sending you cake balls to your house from an anomalous, like. Like a secret and Meyer like that that's the running joke. They were all pulling their money together to send me cake poles. Then Lindsay, at work, she brought cake balls because of that story. So it was just like, oh my gosh. And then, then there was the other day, like somebody else made cake balls on Facebook or something like a week ago. And she's like, oh, I should have married her dang. I'm going to be sitting here for. I'm going to be sitting in this for quite a while. It's, it's not, it's not going anywhere, but I say a lot of stupid things. Andrew I'm too busy. I say stupid things and do bad things. And, yeah, that's, that's just one of them recently that I just, and I'm still bring up the cake balls around my life.

This got me thinking like, you know, this topic could be forgiveness because obviously our wives are very forgiving of our mistakes. And so the Christian point of this podcast is forgiveness, but Andrew, it got me thinking you do a lot of stupid things or do bad things as well. A lot of stupid things. Have you done anything like that where you kind of verbally put yourself? And I'm one of those holes that you just can't can't dig it out. I mean sort of ish. So I used to have a joke. Everybody had this joke when they were like, you know, five, they, you know, the, your mom joke, I would run that in the ground. And that was my thing. I just intentionally would run it in the ground and I would just, everybody would talk to me and they'd say something and I'd be like, your mom likes that. Or your mom does that. Your mom went to college. Yeah. Your mom went go well, Uh, this one time my wife was saying something to me and I had no idea what it was. And I finished her phrase with your mom did that or whatever. Well, just so happened. Her mom had just passed away. Oh yeah. And it's like one of those moments where you hear yourself self saying it and you're out of body trying to cover your mouth. It's like, stop you dupe it person. It just didn't stop and it kept coming out and I felt so bad. Oh, it was instant regret. So how, how, uh, how long did it take for you to live, live that day? I still don't say your mom anymore. Good idea. Your mama jokes. I've gone. Yeah. They instantly died, which they should have when I turned nine, but it's true. I remember that used to be like. Yeah, big thing. I mean, I didn't realize it was still well, and I just, I just did it just to be stupid. It's stupid. Yeah. That's the thing now that's the title is duping. It things we do, people are going to be like, oh, there's this typo. I'm like no there's not! they'll do this podcast. You would realize it was on purpose, but well, not on purpose, but now it's on purpose. Yeah. Yeah. Now I'm going to run this in the ground. Like. Oh, that's that's, that's not a fun one. I think mine is more fun. Yeah. Mine's more recent. So it's definitely more real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yours was just like, um, accidentally did your mama joke at a bad timing? Mine was just like, come on, dude. It's been 10 years.

Most recently for our anniversary, we kinda did fake fighting this morning. And I was joking that okay. For our anniversary, when people ask us what we'll do, we said, you know, we basically just told her, we told each other what we our mad at each other or whatever. I recently been annoying. My wife. Unintentionally? No, that there's a difference in the, I do it intentionally unintentionally. I have, uh, been changing the passwords of things and not telling her. So like the other day, I couldn't get logged into her online banking. And so I changed the password to the online banking because I wanted to check a balance. That's all I wanted to do is check a balance. My wife, who does all of our accounting for our, our budget, our bill paying, everything needs, access to our accounts. And so. I just want to check one thing that I could, at least I could have just texted her like, Hey, how much money is in this account? So I don't over draft it. No, I decided to go in change password, you know? And I was like, well, it kept asking me where I went to high school and I kept hitting the right answer. And she goes dummy. It's where I went to high school. Cause I manage the account. You know, my wife does the same thing, so I, uh, I changed that password then the other day she's literally. In the next room and I changed the best bypass word cause I was trying to get logged in and it made me hit, prompted me to change it. And so she, this morning, he's like, do you change the best by a password? I'm like, you're like, you know, I was literally right there. He could have just gave me a heads up because you know, I have to pay things and I have to log into accounts to pay him. Uh, just so the most recent thing I've been doing quite often, it seems like. Changing our passwords of things and not telling her in that, that that's not a good thing. I do the same thing. Uh, even our, my bank account password. Here's my thought is it's my wife. She works there. She can just look at her computer anytime to see what is in our account. I can't do that. I literally have to log into the home banking, which I strongly dislike anyways, but it makes me change my password every single time. It doesn't matter if I type it in correctly or not. And it's been so long since. Well, my wife's always like, well, no, you're doing something wrong. And so I've done it in front of her and it prompts me to change my password. And she's like, well, you did something wrong. And I'm like, no, I did not. And so it took me doing this like three times in front of her and then she's like, okay, well then she emailed someone and escalated to the apartment. She was like, okay, it's not you like, totally. More or less story is we had no air wives. Yes, yet. Here we are still married, still alive. Somehow, still alive. I did maybe have a knife, uh, pointed at me this morning. Don't change our passwords anymore. She got more upset over that. Then you requesting cake balls from an ex. I, I mean, yeah, basically. All right. More of the story. Don't change your passwords, change the password. Yeah, I think that the gate, well, things is because now I know I'm in the hole for that one. The password is I like she had got onto me for changing the bank password. And then literally two days later I changed the best bypass word. And she's like, what, what in that, you know, like just. That's all she's asking. She's just asking for a heads up that I'm changing a password. Just, she doesn't care if I change it, right. What'd you let me know. No, my wife cares because I let Google suggest my passwords long, 16 to 20 digit random character passwords, you idiot. And she hates that, but I'm like, Hey, they're the most secure passwords. I'm never going to get hat. You know what else? Irks me or not me, but it was kind of weird. You know, people like Christmas is coming up and we're just going to be this huge fight between Christians and the world of happy holidays versus Merry Christmas, winter vacation, you know, all that kind of thing. And, but the other day I saw a church going come to our fall festival and I was like, nah, It's a Halloween party. My question is, is it right for Christians to get upset and not have a Halloween party and change the name of that holiday, but still celebrating it, you know, but then get mad. And when people do the same thing to Christmas, all of a beliefs there that I will get to here in a second. But were you at church? Oh, no. Okay. So yeah. Rusty actually said something about that from the state, from the fall festival thing. Yeah. Well he said, yeah, he said Halloween. He goes, well, I know some of you are, are sensitive to that. So whether you believe in or not, right. Our church has a Halloween costume party or is it just a costume party? And what Archer does come to church in your Halloween costume contest. We give out prizes, right? Uh, as long as it's not a vulgar costume. I think Carson, one time I had him, I let him show up as a Dementor married. Whoops parent. Anyway, dusty. Don't bring your son to church as a demon. Uh, yeah, so, so Halloween costume. All right. Keep going. I wasn't there. So then apparently I didn't even need to bring this up well, and it was just the blue at case. The tracker tree, that's all he was talking about. And so, uh, he did say, you know, it's Halloween, but I know, I know some of you don't believe in that, so, but it's just, so my thinking behind the belief of Halloween versus Christmas is one Halloween is, um, supposed to be a demonic. Holiday. I mean, it's supposed to be when the, the veil is its thinnest. And so you can talk to the other to the dead realm is supposed to be the, the meaning behind how Halloween, I forget what it's called, but there's a specific term that, um, which is, are Wiccans use, right? Uh, With Christians. We are, we believe in a real God and they really vent. And so that's where Christmas comes from. Whereas Halloween's not real well, what I'm saying, I don't care if you celebrate Halloween or not, but as a church, you are doing trunk or treat, you are going trick or treating the holiday kids dressed up like you're celebrating Halloween. And yet you're calling it fall festival, which is. But don't get mad when somebody celebrates the holidays instead of Christmas, right? When, when somebody doesn't agree with, when you don't agree with somebody who believes she don't call it by the holidays name, but when somebody doesn't call it by your beliefs, you get my problem with social media. Now. If I don't agree with you, you are a hundred percent wrong, even though like we both have, yeah, I get, I get what you're saying. I just, I just saw that the other day. And I thought that was weird. Like we're just, churches came back from a fall festival and I was like, that looks a lot like trick or treating and Halloween stuff to me, like, just call it what it is, which I still call it Halloween. But yeah. Well it's just it's I do too, like. I, I can't remember if it's true or not, but I thought, I remember hearing some sort of twist of how Halloween is also a, like, I don't know, maybe I'm making this up, but I felt like I want to know this twist. Oh gosh. I don't know. You know, how they just rewatching the. I've watched all the office. I know. But were you watching the office when you came up with this thought? I think I came up with it. I think somebody from a pulpit said something. Oh, but cause I could see it being like Duane's Dunkel or whatever, the German Christmas Santa thing. I mean, that seemed like Halloween to me. What are they used to say? It hit people with the Schmack yeah. Something like that. Yes, you should do that. We, we, we did watch nightmare before Christmas. That was our like Halloween movie, but this continent also Christmas movie, depending on what part of the movie you're in. Cause they're celebrating Christmas. Really. So movie starts at Halloween. Ends at Christie. I've never watched it. So I don't know. You like me? You love musicals. You love singing along with that is 100% Andrew's thing. High school musical one, two and three. Yep. That's me. No, I just thought that was, you know, as we celebrate, we're celebrating Halloween as Christians or do we just we're S we're not we're no, we're celebrating you fall festival dusty. We don't celebrate anything. We're just. Happens to be the same day as Halloween. And I happened to celebrate the same way people celebrate and be dressed up. Yeah. I just happened to be dressed up as somebody else as a pirate. Oh yeah. Are you doing anything crazy for the church costume Halloween thing? I never do. You never do no party pooper? Cause I got to go work afterwards and one time I, I shaved down my mustache and died at straight black. And I had to wear it for you. Let's talk a pedophile at aware for two different Halloween events, but that we're a week apart. So I had to go full. As a, at the time, the small business owner, jet black mustache with blonde hair just did not look well, but that's also now my Xbox profile picture. So when parents are like, who are you playing games with? And then they see my profile picture and then they, the kids immediately get. Mainly the FBI is kicking in dust. I thought like I always saw it like Halloween, just that weird where people wear masks and you can't really like, I'm surprised, not as many, not as much bad things happen on Halloween because everybody's kind of dressed up. You're kind of out of sorts as far as like. Who's who in our situation. I mean, the last two years everyone's alert been wearing a mask anyways. So go Rob a bank today. Like the guy that was spraying my house this morning was in a mask. I could not tell you what he looked like. Yup. Showed up in a van net. None of that auto marks on an unmarked car. So that dude could, the charity could be showing up here any minute, like, Hey, I'm here to spray your house and be like, oh, uh, okay, it's already been done. You've already been here. We could leave it there. I just, I wanted to kind of have some fun talking about how much our wives forgive us and some of the dumb things pull back the curtain, some of the dumb things that you and I do as a. Amazingly. No. If we pulled back the curtain, I think we may have just kind of taken a small piece in. They already kind of knew like, cause I'm way more annoying than just one thing. Uh, old your mom jokes. I would like to know from you guys, what are some things you do tell us some stories and uh, so we could laugh at you as well. And that would be, that would be amazing. Have you guys always laughing at us? We want to laugh at you. You, so tell us your deepest thing. But like saying duping on a podcast instead of stupid, over and over and over and over this beat, that dead horse beat it. Like, and you wonder why I don't put like public chest beating. Oh gosh. Okay. And you're singing. That means it's time to go have a good one guys. Happy Halloween or happy fall festival. Whichever you celebrating today. Take it easy.

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Hey everyone. Welcome to the Bible belt bros podcast today on the show, we are talking about our favorite Christian movies, or movies in general. What did you watch growing up? Let's have some nostalgia time, but first let everybody know today is actually a morning podcast. I have my house at the usual time of morning because I've got to go play golf today. So he's filling in for me, got a reason not to go to. Yeah. It's actually a little different because we've been doing these evening podcasts. I got used to that. So now I'm a little you're out of sorts. Yeah. I'm like, I'm just on the fight right now and it doesn't help that I made you an Americana and then apparently I it's too watered down for you. So it's a little weak, but you made it. Stronger than I would normally ask. I just added more water, so I just added, oh, okay. So it's espresso and water mix. So I just, right. I filled up the cup cup thinking four shots would be a lot, which it is. Cause I always ask for a three shot Americano sissy boys for my house. Would normally, you know, that would definitely wake me up, but then I guess I see what you're saying. Yeah. I fill the cup up and it's a deep coffee cup. It's not like a small one. So, so yeah. Andrew complaints about my coffee. I didn't complain. You asked one, doesn't go saying anything. One of the things I used to do that makes my wife so not mad, but I used to say espresso as espresso, like. All the time I call it espresso. I don't even say that. E are you? And so I would order a Starbucks and I'll be like, can I get two shots of espresso plea? You know? And she'd just be so embarrassed for me, but I've figured it out. It's espresso. There's no X in the spreads. So today. Yeah, playing golf. If it doesn't rain, uh, came home yesterday to a tree fallen over in my driveway. So I had to cut that up. So now my body is sore and guys you'd be proud of him. He did not call me. I did not call you. My wife did help me, like drag him, put him on the little trailer that we pull behind the lawnmower and drag it to the burn pile. Yep. Cut it up lawn. I changed the audit, you know, I've kind of mainly it was an electric chainsaw, but it's still a chain in the saw. Yeah. The eight inch electric chainsaw. It's more like a hedge clipper. Yeah. It's more like hedge clipper, but it, uh, did the job and yeah, you got the job done. So you can't even tell the tree fell over, but, uh, you really can't. Tell that the wind blew hard. Cause there there's stuff everywhere. Cramped pots all around. Yeah. So now my body is super sore. I'm not a great golfer, just so everybody knows. Listen, guys, he's already making excuses for why he's going suck today. I haven't even, he hasn't even been there yet, but he's making an excuse. Great golfer. Andrew at the last tournament, uh, I have a pretty good slice and I played the slice. Right. I just don't fix it. Just play it. I corrected mine. Well, sometimes I correct mine when I don't mean to you when I mean to play it and instill, and then it's like, oh, that was the straightest shot I've ever hit. You better trainees, fairway. Yeah, I was on my whole 18 Andrew at the golf course. I love that whole. I was on my second shot and I apparently, I usually choke up on my iron six. Your first shot not ended up at. 18. Yeah. Do you not go across the highway? I could play my slice. I did try that. And I it's one of those that ended up going left. Dude, I go across, I tried to hit it too hard. I like the house. So you can't hit the housing addition from there? I can't, I, it was, it started rolling down the, uh, the road towards the house. It wasn't a great shot. Gotcha. And so it was a scramble, so I played somebody else's shot. And, uh, I usually choke up on my irons. Like, so if it's something that you should be able to get there in an eight, I'll hit a six and not swing as hard kind of thing is like my, my style of play. Yup. So. I forgot to not swing as hard. And I hit that. I hit that six and it just bounced off the clubhouse. There was, it was for a benefit thing. So like the dance team was there with their laptops and stuff, checking people in. And I guess it went right by the girl with her laptop. She literally watched it bounce off and, uh, it was just the most. Embarrassing embarrassing shot that I had of, of the day. And luckily I didn't break a window cause I don't know what happens if you break. They actually posted that the golfer is responsible for damaging the clubhouse. So close to the holes. That's what they do at every golf course. Well, that's the dumbest thing ever. Like you literally have to hit. The clubhouse takes to the golfers to actually know how to golf. I didn't seen Springs. I didn't break a window. So there we go. I just hit the brick. So nothing was damaged. Um, would have been a pretty good playable shot if needed, but you know, the way, how far it bounced back, but somebody else had a better shot. So yeah, I hit the, uh, I stopped on the fringe on eight. On my second shot and then somebody else, I think Wayne. All right. Last golf tournament drove me nuts, dude. Cause the one I want to hit on another team with yes, I would hit a beautiful, gorgeous shot. Oh yeah. And then I'm, you know, I'm over there, you know, talking Schmack right. Cause that's what you do when you hit your leg hits. You're like, yeah, that's right. I should be on the tour. Yeah. Wayne steps up and literally like puts his ball, like either right in front of mine or maybe five yards further. I'm like at least once just play yours out of just courtesy. It's just five feet. Well, there was, I was like, forget you Wayne. I'm playing mine. Everybody else played his, but I did play. Uh, that was on a whole 14, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, forget it. I'm just playing mine. The course I'm playing today is basically in between housing additions. Like, so I played there once and I mean, it's pretty, uh, for somebody who has a nasty slice, it's not a very confident, chorus to be playing on. They expect to be playing my drives too much. Cause I'm not going to put too much behind it. I'm just going to put it in a fairway. So if somebody else messes up, then, then we're good. So, so I say, well, our local course is the reason I corrected my slice because it hooks more than a slice. Yeah. So I, I corrected everything and now I go straight and when I try to slice it, I can't, I can draw it all I want, but I cannot slice anymore. Yeah. Stupid. I'm trying so hard not to, uh, use any innuendos when we talk about golf. They're just so many, I know golf, golf has debt. Oh yeah. The bowling has a everything isn't any window. Yeah. I mean, I just bought two balls. I already have to know exactly. I just had my balls drilled yesterday. Okay. I said I was trying not to. I mean, okay. So that is why we have a morning podcast episode. That's right. And you woke me up, dude. I'm here awakened in, which means that we also haven't fought too long today about what we're talking about. I have thought in exactly 10 minutes on this. Cause that's when I heard the like, uh, in the, in the, uh, In the, in the night podcast, we kind of sometimes can think about it during the day. Maybe make some, you know, that's, that's the difference when we're doing maybe like a real, when also dusty. And I try not to tell each other our topics that way we have surprised me and make me say something, uh, like there's no Zechariah, the Bible that you've believed for like 30 years. That's still, still stinger. Andrew made me call his mom and apologize. After that podcast, I didn't make you call her. I called, I mean, you literally called her and said dusty would like to say something. That's making me call her. No, I just made you apologize. Call her. Okay. So yeah. And she just thought it was funny. I don't, she didn't even remember it, so I didn't even have to apologize. Do you have to apologize for offending somebody or doing something if they don't. That's a good question. I should be a podcast episode. There's a great question. You need to ask for forgiveness. If they forget that the thing ever happened, you just stir up something, right. You know, now they're re mad about, or were they ever even mad or even mad and you're just harping on yourself for nothing. And now you're making it more about you in that situation of asking for forgiveness so that you feel better now. And you're like, oh yeah. Uh, I just want to ask for forgiveness because behind your back, I have just been slamming you about this and this and this and this and this. And there'll be like, what you really. You know, like they didn't even know, but you were talking behind their back, but Hey, I said, sorry, so you can't be mad. I said, sorry. So you need to forgive me. And I feel better about myself for talking, you know, it's just, it's just typical. We would make every, anything about us. Right. So, um, yeah, maybe that's, maybe that's a deeper. Episode later when we just covered it. That's, that's, that's the depth that you get out of. That's your bonus podcast for the day? Just your bonus bucks. It's a two in one, right? I think I've talked about this before, but we've my wife and I we've been doing with our son nostalgia Saturdays, and we on Saturday kind of pick a movie that we liked growing up in the nineties. And so we just kind of. Talk about your favorite movies that you kind of remember growing up? Not the Disney ones. I know you're a big Disney Aladdin and yeah. And looking at me like what's the, hold on. No, I'm looking at you. Cause I'm trying to think of a Disney maybe so I could play off that. I can't even think of any Hannah Montana hand-on was that she's not that old. I mean, my daughter watched her when she was talking about movies that we watched growing up like, oh, hold on. I wasn't rich enough to have Disney. So I don't know. Yeah. I have some of those cassettes, VHS tapes that are worth nothing. Cinderella was that Disney that was Disney. I think. Oh, yes. She's the princess. Yep. Yep. For the Disney princess. Oh yeah. That's all I gotta do is think of the princess. Is snow white. Alison Wonderland. Jasmine. Yup. Well, what was that one? Latin Pocahontas. Pocahontas. All right. That's all I got is what upon was her puzzle? Yes, she a princess. Yes. Let down your hair. Yep. Um, yeah, I just have to think of what my daughter's Halloween costume. And that's how I know Disney. So really I'm using this podcast episode, Andrew, as a way to gather some more ideas cause I'm kind of running out of movies. So I'll tell you the ones that we've watched so far we watched. Uh huh. That's probably that's all time. All right. So I was never, you know, never had had money and could barely watch TV growing up. Right. Insert, sad music. But hook was one of those movies. I watched a lot. I mean, I remember having that on VHS and we would just, we ran that tape to the court. I also watch Mr. Or a little big league or something like that. Little big league. Yeah. The kid who broke his arm rookie of the year. There's that little rookie of the year. Yeah. Okay. And then there's that other one where the, a kid was the CEO and the CEO and the player, like he owned the team. Oh, no, he wasn't a player. He was a coach. He owned it and coach, yeah. That's a little bit later. Yeah, that might be it. We haven't watched that one yet. So we watched hook and then immediately, because this all started by me going like one day from Mrs. Doubtfire. And obviously you see a joke like that and your son doesn't get it. You have to make sure that he gets it. So we watched Mrs. Doubtfire, which then I was like, Well, I can't believe my parents, let me watch this. There's some parts in this movie that I'm like, what, you know, I think it's just seen as an adult now. You're like, wait a minute. I didn't get these jokes that was ever my son's eyes. So we watched Mrs. Doubtfire then hook. And then we watched rookie of the year, little giants. Remember that one where the football team does that soccer. Uh, the green, uh, the big green, we watched that one as well. I got to watch that one. Was it because I played soccer and I went over to, we had a team party. Yeah. It really comes down to, you had friends that had money. And so you'd just watch movies at their house so you can watch these other movies. I watched, I didn't actually watch them at my house. I watched them at my grandparents. Right. And we watched a, or we watched blink check. Nope. Did we watch blink check? No, we didn't watch like Cherokees. So here's a, here's a thing here. This is my opinion. So if somebody is listening that know somebody else don't say it, but we started this nostalgia Saturdays, and it's a big hit. Right. Then all of a sudden Carson's watching with his other parents, some of these nostalgia movies and I'm like, wait, The idea like you were well, we watching over here, like, that's my thing. So I'm just saying, but does the other parent play video games? The other parent doesn't play video games. I will always have that on my. On my side of things. And so you will still always be the fun dad. I was still in Carson's learning, coding, he's learning the unity engine, so were learning how to make games and stuff with his schooling. So that's pretty cool. So we might, once he figures it out, we're thinking about designing a game together. So you should get him that Minecraft. Game or software. I think it's a game, but they, it teaches them coding through while you're doing it. Also have this Harry Potter thing right there. That's by your feet, that's the same kind of concept like, oh, that's cool. But it's not like you're not to use a wand. You actually, where there's any, there's one where we watched Dennis, the menace. Uh, that one is pretty funny, mainly because his brothers are like totally Dennis, the menace kind of kids. And they're just into everything. Always, like I said, Carson, you're basically Mr. Wilson in this movie, like he relates more to the old guy. That's always bothered her, but there was like a couple sections, you know, where, uh, Like, he's like, oh, my dad's always singing songs every day, except for Sundays, because I think it's cause mom and dad wrestle in the bedroom and I think it's because they take their shirts off and I'm like, don't ask any questions. And I was like, golly, I used to watch like my mom, let me watch them. Maybe I always watch the TV version. I always watched the TV show, but, but yeah, so it was just funny, like watching the rewatching, these movies, but we watched Ghostbusters and I kind of look them up and there's a couple of times, like there's a. Uh, scene and Ghostbusters. Cause I think the concept is like a sexual ghost, you know, the gatekeeper and a gate, the gate master, and a gatekeeper need to hook up to, uh, unlock something. And so like it's a very sexual ghost storyline. And so I just, there's a couple of things. I'd just like double tap to skip the scene. But other than that, He liked it. Like it was fun. And I just look them up ahead of time and just we'll skip this part right here. And, uh, yeah. So we've been, we've been messing around with that. I got some more movies, Ghostbusters too, apparently supposed to be pretty good. Uh, karate kid. He hasn't seen that ACE Ventura two because the first one is all about Dan Marino being a. Uh, lady and, you know, there's, there's quite a few, I think Carson would, because it's just ridiculous that he likes that ridiculous humor. And we watched camp nowhere and there was like two kissing scenes back to back as a show, uh, Shay watched growing up. It's like where these kids, the, the, the, uh, the guy that plays the doctor on, uh, back to the. Yeah. Basically, there was one I watched the kids basically hire this dude to like calm their parents into them, going and creating their own summer camp instead of going to all these bad summer camps. And then they have like a parent stay and they have. Fake it it's it's it was actually pretty good. I chose, uh, three ninjas. You ever watched three ninjas probably, but I don't know. You probably don't want to anymore. It's not as great as I remembered it. I watched three Stooges, three Stooges and three ninjas. Uh, then there's three ninjas kick back and I did watch. Yeah. It's uh, I remember that being a lot better than what it was, but maybe it's because I was that age, maybe. I don't know. So definitely very, very cheesy movie in the, my wife and son will not let me forget that I chose that movie. Um, the mask. Yeah. I didn't like it. Uh, kindergarten cop may. It was okay. I remember that one. Um, Cone-heads, nutty, professor, Tom, and Huck. I don't remember that one that, uh, had, uh, Jonathan Taylor, Thomas. Um, go over travel. Jonathan Taylor, Thomas. I haven't heard that name in a minute. Oh, we watched school of rock that came out later. Um, yeah, that was after Hannah Montana. Yeah, I know I threw that one in there cause I knew he would like it. Uh, I want him. Yeah, I wanted to watch it again. That's usually when it comes down to what movie do I want to watch? Uh, the original teenage mutant ninja turtles is on our list. Uh, the Simpsons movie, um, Simpsons movie. Isn't that new? Well, they have like the old ones. They have a bunch of different movies. We've been going through the Simpsons as well. On who on Disney, plus we go get striked. Sorry, come at me, bro. All right. So what I wanted to go through is when I was a youth pastor, back in the day, uh, we used to do like different things in the summer because summers are so many so low in attendance now. Cause people traveling, yada, yada, yada. So I, we did like this cheesy Christian movie thing and we would get like cheese pizza. Basically everything was revolving around cheese, like cheese snacks, cheese pizzas, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, sounds fun. It was actually fun. And we would just watch a cheesy Christian movie and kind of sometimes we'd pick them based on how cheesy they were. But I wanted to just kind of go through maybe a list of Christian movies that you remember actually being good, not just. Cheesy. That gives me an idea for how search night, one night do a cheesy movie night. Yes, let's do something besides the lesson that we did last week, we went bowling. You weren't there. I wasn't there. Yeah. If I was there, we would have done a lesson. So I think for me the biggest movie and probably a movie that really launched, um, launched like this new season. Tons of Christian movies coming out was what was it facing the giants. And now we're watched it. You never watched facing the giants? Nope. From what I remember it very good movie. Very well done. The acting's not too cheesy. There is some cheesiness facing the giants. Yep. I, I, I think you're mistaken, sir, but you know, the problem with Christian movies is they have. They're usually a little cheesy on the humor over exaggerated emotion things, you know, and then they're usually. They always have to go into some like super serious. They can't just be funny movies. When you watch a comedy, you don't have like that come to Jesus moment or whatever, of course. But like these, these movies are kind of made in the comedy scene and then they want to get really serious for, are they though? They are, I don't think based. And I think of Christmas movie, I don't think of comedy, unless something Christian calls. Okay. Cause Christian movies always have to be serious. I, every single time. Well, most of them, yes, because they're all focused around. God's love and yeah. Thank you to Jesus. Well, you should watch facing the giants or maybe we should have movie night. We can watch faith in the times together and you're just want to do a nostalgic. I, yeah, I, I remember that coming out and we showed that to like football teams. Like it's very football heavy, um, as far as the storyline, but I mean, obviously has this serious moments as well, but then. I'm thinking it was like a church that made that movie, like a football movie. I'm watching hometown legend, hometown legend. That is a good, I mean, that's kind of older too. That's nostalgia and a Christian movie, hometown legend. Yeah. Okay. I used to wash out and loop and dusty, you stay at my house all the time because we used to watch, remember the Titans like, oh yes. Our Bible. And so we watched that movie. So when hometown legend came out, I think we're just really in the football movies in general, a hometown legend came out. And I remember that being like, Hey, this is really good. Maybe not as good as remember. But it's really good movie. And because dusty and I could not, it wasn't, I don't remember it being super cheesy. It probably was, but I don't remember it being a super cheesy movie. I've watched it. Semi-recently at, I don't think so. Hometown legend, if you haven't watched it added to your list and, uh, yeah. And so this church, when they did the facing the giants, they basically branched into. Now we're a church that makes movies all the time. Cause it went from like a $10,000 budget and much more. And so they have like movies, like courageous. I can't remember if they made God church made the movie. Yeah. Church made the movie. And so like the pastor was this character, you know, like it was made with like a $10,000 budget or something like that. Like if I remember all this correctly, Fact check me. So make sure get into movie making. We can make the comedies that have nothing to do. You know, I think they even made, yeah, they made a, still have a serious come to Jesus moment. You're like jokey, jokey, jokey, jokey. Oh, father God. We pray for this guy and make it really serious. Somebody almost died. What were those? The movie spoofs that always came in. They made fun of the screen. Yeah. What was that called? I don't know, but that's what we could do. We could totally just remake these low budgets. Christian. We're shutting down. Mama's on the podcast. Let me go steal our idea. Um, that's a fine, we'll probably never do it, but we should do it. That would just be funny. Just even make them as short. I mean, we have a YouTube channel. Why don't we do something? We don't post anything and we did one, one actual video. Yeah. Didn't even get a. Yeah, it was like two or 300 bees. It's not like crazy, but, um, fireproof, I think that was a good movie. That was definitely more serious. They, I remember that one. That was one about the fireman. The title given away, actually the picture did fireproof. That's when Kirk Cameron got into the, uh, into this Christian movie, uh, besides left behind, you know, he was really big at getting that off the ground. He got tired of his sister, always having the attention. God's not dead. I remember that being a. A big one for the main mainstream theaters, big ones. The, uh, I can only imagine. I can only imagine which I, I never watched that one. It's kind of, I don't know, like I'm not a movies person, like you are, I'm definitely not a movies person. I'm not a. I'm not a big movie. I'm a big Ted lasso fan. Let's let's watch me, like give me like a 10 part series, you know, and let it be funny. Only nothing serious. Gosh, dude, for me, just give me a Minecraft YouTube series. I'm good. I don't wanna watch movies. I don't watch Minecraft. I CA I hate watching movies. Oh, the shack was the shack of Christian. Yes, I actually, that was a book we actually read. And then watch the movie. That's like the first time it's ever happened in history. For me, for you. I read a book before the movie. Yes. Not only, no, no, no, no, no, not just before the movie, I read a book and watched the land watch really the emphasis there is I read a book. Well, technically, if you want to talk about that, then we did the same thing with the prince of Egypt. We read through the book of Exodus as our house church, and then we watched the movie prince of Egypt. Yep. Thanks. Alex used to watch how doesn't listen to this podcast. She would talk about that movie every week. She's like, oh, I know this because I was in the prince of every time, every time that we bring up a point she's like, and in the prince of Egypt, they did, we got to watch them. All right. So now we have to watch prince of Egypt time. We did, and we did, and it was great. There's a lot of Christian movies out there nowadays is Narnia considered. Cause Narnia was released mainstream. It doesn't have to be, we have my mom considers it. I mean that when every, whenever it hit the theater, she was taking my brothers to watch it. But I mean, it doesn't actually say. It's just a lot of symbolism. Right. Which is basically every Christian worship song nowadays. It's just more symbolic sayings. And just say the real thing, guys, listen. Can't cause then it's a hymnal. When you're seeing scripture, it turns it into a hymnal. Not really a there's a, oh shoot. I forget what rapper did it, but essentially wrapped just a bunch of different verses in the. And it turned out to be a great rap, like Psalms, where it'd be like one piece of scripture from judges, a piece of scripture from Ruth, a piece of scripture from John and it all flowed together. It was really nicely put together. I'll find it and send it to you. Okay. Okay. Well, I don't,  I don't recall that being a, uh, okay. Cause you don't listen to the same type of music I do. I just don't even listen to the radio. I saw him. He don't listen to the radio either. I listened. How do you find new songs? If you don't listen to radio Pandora? That's that's basically, Nope. That's not the radio. That's a streaming service. I'm pretty sure it says, if you go to Pandora, I click Pandora and then I continue with Pandora and this. It's a station. Yep. Not radio. It's a streaming stuff. What are you streaming on? My radio. Okay. Stereo stoplight. I don't, I can't cancel. Cancel. Okay. I think I probably just signed up for Pandora. I just clicked a bunch of buttons to see a song and then I should get a part of that to be. I was the reason he got Pandora. And or if you want to sponsor me, you're getting royalties. Yep, man. I have proof that it was me that got him to sign up for Pandora. I still believe that just came out. That's supposed to be like that Jeremy camp song. That was a good one too. This is Jeremy Camporee married. Yes. And like he is still like trade with his wife who passed away. Yeah. And his current wife helps him celebrate. Yeah. Yeah. That's she understands. It's weird to me. I mean, he's still doing too, like, but that song came out so long ago. That's his, you say so long ago, that was 2006 ish. I think, I don't know, 2003, maybe. I don't know that song is older than my child, which point? So he's been touring for 14 years. Singing that song, like he's still doing it now with like a music video. I saw some clip, just like the music video or some, or the clips of this movie playing behind him. I don't know. It's just, you know, in the, in the grief, in the healing process at some point, I mean, I get it. I know. What's what, it's just, it'd just be weird to me. So like I'm always going to be. Yeah. Well, I mean, what about all these soldiers, wives who, or spouses who their spouses get killed overseas to me because he's playing this song every, every week, every day. Like, it's not like. Yeah. And the spouses are posting about their soldier, spouses who didn't come home almost every day, every week after they're remarried. Yep. So what you're saying, or, I mean, think about a fireman or a cop, or just anyone who is widowed and they still want to honor their significant other. Huh? I mean, to me, it's not weird. It's just in remembrance. I know it's remembrance, but that seems like a little more than in remembrance, I guess. Well, yeah, to them, it was the love of their life, their true love. So I get remained. I don't know, we are completely honest. They have more love to give and they, they just want to have sex. Sandra, you know, that's the case. No, not always. Listen. I have I'm legally, I'm friends with multiple people who have lost spouses and, well, I guess they didn't remarry, but they're constantly posting. That's what I'm saying. If you are entering into a new marriage relationship. And, but then you're constantly like comparing that person to your first. I don't know. It's just, I mean, they're not necessarily comparing. I mean, it's not like they're going up to your spouse and being like, oh my, my dead spouse would do it this way. Yeah. You never died for anything. Whether their spouse didn't die for anything either they just died. Well, I guess the soldiers, yes, they did. That was talking about the soldiers. I was, I was going at the Jeremy camp side. She just had cancer passed away. I dunno, I, I got off topic. I don't want to be on this time. Like, Nope. We're contentious topic. I have no podcast three in one. I just saw the movie in his mouth. 15 years later, after being remarried. He still milking that stuff. And you are still milking this topic for not wanting to be on it because like, I dunno. Like maybe all his other records didn't really do as well. And so he, but they did that. It's kind of like mercy me. I can only imagine on every freaking album they ever released because that remade every time they ever, you know, like, it's like, that's the song that gets us the sales. And so I'm just going to milk this thing. As long as I can with every version possible, you are cynical and everything you do, aren't you? I am pretty cynical, especially when it comes. So these kinds of things, but sex music, no, just what was it the other day you profiting, profiting off of story, you know, and you know, I don't know. It's whatever, I'm very cynical. I think it was a very jaded pastoring. Oh, pastor pay. That was a topic we talked about the other day that you were very cynical about. Well, you're just cynical in general. It's just, why is this just now hitting? Jesus came in. Normally nobody agreed with how he did things. All right. So maybe I'm more like Jesus than you are just goes with the flow. And I literally say every week at house church, I am the one who says I relate to Jesus. Well, I am switching it because if you're just going with the status quo and saying, Hey, the way the world decides to do this is the way that God wants to do it and stop questioning it. Then maybe you're the problem. Have you ever known me to go with the status quo? You are defending the status quo. I'm not defending my defending the status quo all the time. When name one pastor says. It's not necessarily a status quo. I mean, the flow is lower of what you say. The pastor shouldn't get paid. Hey, I just wanted to get a shout out to our Australian friend that is offering to teach or to a. W where's he at? I think it's Brett, but I just want to make sure they're going to get a good dude. Let's just shout out. Just say shout out to our Australian friend. I'm pretty sure your name is Brett. Shout out to Australian friend who might name his brand. I can't because otherwise we're just kind of a lie, but listen, you wanted a longer podcast and this is why we cut the podcast short, because this is where it goes and it goes. These types of, and it just us arguing about something that neither of us have facts or any kind of data to back up at this moment. We just say random stuff. We're just saying random stuff. Somebody's going to get mad and. You know, that's just what happens. It's going to be dusty. Cause I don't care. I, I actually, I mean, somebody who's listening is going to go. Gotcha. You know what I mean? Negative reviews we get for talking about like, well, it's funny. I love reading their names. I think they're hilarious. So we've got a couple of Karen's in our. Yeah, we do. And it's always, and it's always like, I wanted to listen to a nice enlightening Christian podcast and I found you guys and you're just joking around. And does he literally put in our title, Christian comedy pause is why I put comedy is so that you guys would know we are not serious. Just we're just arguing. And Andrew just likes to argue about nothing. And therefore Andrew likes to just argue. The opposite side of any situation, whether or not I like to it's. I can, I can, I can always see both sides. You like to, you like to argue and therefore the guy who keeps saying it out, we are arguing about who likes to argue. I think dusty likes target. Kind of like to argue with myself once you're gone, I will have a conversation with you later, Andrew, and I will make this argument with you later when you were not present. And it's always like, oh, why didn't I say that? No, I say it to you, which is just when you're not here. And I win the argument and is squashed pretty much how I treat every relationship that I have. And that is why we can be friends. Uh, okay. I don't know where we're at now, but we'll just stop it here. And you guys can have a longer extended version of a podcast three and one guys. That's like the Trinity a podcast. We're going to get canceled. Aren't we in this? Yeah, you can't cancel me if I just stopped recording episodes to begin with. Yeah. Okay. I don't know where guys have a good one. Hope you have a good week. I'll let you know how my golf game goes today. Tomorrow. Hopefully it just gets rained out so I can just stay at home and play video games. I'll see you later. Take it easy.

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Hey everyone. Welcome to the Bible belt. That's the hot room. Hey everyone. Welcome to the Bible belt bros podcast. Say dusty, you're getting better. And then you did this weird slang thing at the end of. Um, I'm trying some things out the last four weeks now you've been trying things out. It's not working. Go back to the original. Now you go find a good my day. He used to be just welcome to the Bible belt, bro. She didn't have to say all those crazy things. Exactly. Anyways, how are you doing? Uh, I'm doing great. Do in fantastic. Good, good websites. Making videos, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun. I hope they're good videos. Um, I dunno. I, you know, so today actually at the office, we have every workstation in our office. We have like webcams and stuff so that we can, um, spy on each other spy on each other. So we can create content because we do have like a digital marketing online. School that we're kind of creating as we're working. So like basically if we're working on something and we don't have a video, a how to video, how to do it themselves, we need to record the how to video while we're doing it. We've had quite a few interns from oral Roberts university that have a marketing degree, then they show up and they have. They know theories, but they have no application practiced it. And so what we're trying to do is at ORU, they're having us come, come and teach periodically as well as we're giving each student this course that they can. Learn the practicality of it as they leave college. So it's kind of a cool thing, especially for a guy who didn't go to college to be teaching kids who paid what, 20 to 30 grand for a degree. And then they still have to learn from the guy who doesn't have the degree to do it. So it was pretty funny. And the teacher, the professor, she was like, dusty, can, can you talk, but just don't, don't tell them they're wasting their time. And I was like, don't tell them, I won't tell them, but you know, I'm think they better off just, you know, interning somewhere at 20 grand, you know, expenses instead of learning from you, which then yeah. Anyway, so it's just, it's kind of, it's kind of funny. So I'm making a lot of videos, but today I realized there's like levels of production quality when it comes to a YouTuber or a streamer. I like you have a, you could, most people, they start out, there's a $50 webcam that you can buy and it gets you gets you through. And then there's this one here, Andrew, uh, from work that I brought here, which is $200. So you just get much better. Uh, color quality there's um, I don't know how to explain notice it's next to like your $20 one. Yeah. I actually did a side by side just trying to see the difference. That's why I brought it here and I was doing some streaming. I plan my streaming around when I'm going to bring the equipment home, you know, so I was doing a side-by-side and this is $200. And this basically you get more. Color profile options. So instead of just red, blue, green, white, which is that kind of, you get red shade of red, one shade of red two, you know, those kinds of things. So you're just getting more colored difference. So you're getting a better picture quality, but we also have at work Sony, a seven threes, which is about a $2,000 body. And then we have another $2,000 lens on top of that. And that would be like the next step up from like a $200 thing is to go ahead and get a full on. Digital camera that can do video 4k video. And so typically most of those kinds of DSLR cameras, you have to buy like this adapter and it's a few hundred dollars to get it all hooked up correctly. And then you got to have a computer that's worth like being able to receive that much information at once and pushing it out. And so today, Joking with my boss. And I was just like, I'm just going to go see what it is, you know, because my boss is one of those guys. He's like, let's just buy the best thing. Let's stop. Let's don't level up. Let's just buy the best thing. That's how I live, dude, if you're going to do it, do it right. Yeah, exactly. So I was like looking around and apparently since the. Time lately, they've actually have a driver now for this specific camera that you can download the driver. And now it's able to process this computer feed or this a video feed, basically process it to be read by a computer. So you can basically use this $4,000 setup for your webcam, which is the, the goal. You don't have any extra adapters, any other things you have to install? Side your computer. And so today, so today after spending money having $200 webcams on everybody's desk, I realized crap, we already had this stuff for free. I just had to plug it in. And now we have this $4,000 camera as our main streaming camera. So it's, it's not my money. So I guess it's okay. My dog's got a squeaky toy. It's just, I'm going to have to break her. Okay. And a little bit you can play with it. Okay. Um, so, so that's going to be an odd edit right there that I think it's just leave it in. Maybe. So that's that's today. That was my day-to-day was going, Hey, you remember how I had you buy all this camera equipment? Now? It still makes more sense. Cause we also do like looms with our clients now, which is like a zoom, but it's a one-way zoom. And so we can record a video, send them a link instead of having to send them a video file and they can stream it. Google. Oh, nice. There's a, just a button on a Google. Yeah. You just hit record and then send them basically a screenshare. So we're, we're all still needing cameras for, and we're not going to set up the Sony cameras every time we want to do like a 32nd. Hey, just so you know, I changed this for you. If you have any questions, let me know, you know, those kinds of things were just so, you know, you spent a grand in ads this month. Here's where your money. Let me know if you need catch. And so that's usually my conversations on, on the phone that you can use, uh, that I think has a computer app for it as well, but, but it's screen shares. Like I pulling up their Google ads account and going through keywords. Okay. And so. So, yeah, so, so it's still like, not a waste of money. It's not like I bought a complete waste. It's not a complete waste of money, but we probably didn't need as many cameras as we have because then your boss doesn't listen to this podcast. I know. Yeah. Well, well I already joked with him. I was like, Hey, you're going to hate me. I figured out how to do this for free. So sorry. Oh, my gosh, I get this job. I just like showed him. I was like, he's like, it looks like a million times better. Like that's all he cared about was how much, at least you found a better way. So that kind of, so basically he said, so all this gaming and nerding out and streaming and stuff, it's actually paying off for me because he's getting all the good equipment he's getting better and maybe it'll pay off for me. Cause then I'll just like, gotta test it. Got to bring it home. Gotta be sure it works properly. Now, you know, you don't need this one at work. You can be like, now I just have this one at home. I'm just, I'm working from home. I'm just gonna work from home. I want to do pretty good quality video here. Yeah, I'm just going to leave this one at the house. If we ever need it, I'll bring it in. So whenever you need it, just go borrow one of somebody else's. Yeah, so that was my day-to-day was finding out that he might've spent a lot of money, a thousand dollars more than he needed to. And that's no big deal. He's made the money. It's all good. It's the resell values there. If you want to be. Fisher you came in with a topic today. I decided you did last week's topic. I do this week's topic. So this one's going to be about you. Yup. Yup. I mean, last week was all about you actually. I don't even remember what the cast is all about me. Oh yeah. Last week was your youth pastor thing or don't send you, you're absolutely tired by the way. I'm still okay. That's good. Good, good. So, uh, pulling an Andrew luck. I'm just staying retired unless there's money. Andrew luck. Oh gosh, you brought it up, dude. There's a dude who bought $50,000 worth of Andrew luck cards as an investment. And then angels luck retired. Oh, he brought the full. I mean, that's a good investment at the time, at the time. Yeah. And there's like a lot like dose by and dose at 40 cents looked good at the time. I mean, it's still great at 20 cents now. I'm still positive on those dude. Even with me buying it at 46 cents, I'm still positive. Really? Yeah. It's. I guess this exact moment. Hold on one second. Um, it is at a I'm pulling it up right now. Look at him. Dose is at 24. Ah, there we go. So I bought a bunch of doge when it was at like 4 cents and 6 cents. That's smart, smart investing. And that's buying Andrew luck card before he retires. Yes. So I'm still positive. I'm just not as positive as I was when it was at, you know, You know, there were reports that technically the value could still go up because one, there were reports. People thought he might be coming back this year. Cause winds got hurt. Oh, you're talking about, oh look, no dose dose just gone. Gotcha. No, he posted, you know, a couple of weeks ago or something that he's not coming back. Well, you say that now. I don't say that he said that well, but you know, like I think he's from what I've heard, he's very content person. And so I can't remember what he's doing now, but I think the reports came out cause he like showed up at some high school and was just like throwing the ball around with them. Oh, my gosh, he's coming. He's coming back. He's he's getting out love for the game. Again. He's falling in love with the game and really he's just interviewing for a high school job, probably like he's probably interviewing for a coaching job, you know, my biggest fear, right? What's is that Tom Brady, who is dominated my Packers, who has dominated just my NFL fan life for years because he is the second goat will finally retire and I will be so happy. And then Tampa bay hires him as their NFL head coach and he continues. To be just as good as a coach, as a player because of his smarts. He cause the reason he's a good player, isn't his athleticism as much as it is as how smart he is, you know? So I know, you know, I could, players don't become great coaches do usually, but sometimes they can, but like Deion Sanders, uh, you know, you can't say great offensive coach. Not necessarily you be a coordinator, but I'm just going to say, he's not going to retire and leave. Like I want him to, he's going to retire and still be there and being annoying. He's like, Bug that fly never leaves. And you're just like, Brady, can you give Rogers one year, please? Just one year without you, without your name of your it's not happening to stupid friends and just, and really it should, it's literally just Brady and Gronk. That's it? Those, that combo is deadly. I mean, in one, in one Tampa bay of fricking Superbowl, I just two people, man. He's one of those guys you can't, it's like, as you started to hate. Yeah. Dude is a goat, a goat, not the goat. Here's the goat to you, Joe Montana. That's a debate that maybe for a different day, like the goats always going to be Michael Jordan, right, right. A hundred percent. It's you can't physically side-by-side compare them. So as an older person, as the leagues change the leaks change and they didn't really play together in their primes, you know? So like as an older person, he's always going to be Michael Jordan, but as the younger kids, Who don't even remember nine 11. It's always going to be dirt guys that I played with in that youth band that I was talking about last week was he, he was like, I was like, yeah, I moved here in 2003 and he goes, I wasn't even born yet. I was like, leave crazy. You moved here in three. I moved here and S. Five. Yeah, it was few years. A couple years after me. I thought it was six. It was actually five. At some point the younger generation is going to be our generation and age. And they're not even going to remember. It's like when people talk about wilt, Chamberlain being the goat, I don't know. I've never saw his game. I never seen the highlights. Technically it's bill Russell. If you're going to read. Yeah, well then like then I even know less, you know, like that's what I'm saying. Like, it's just at some point, the goat's going to change just based on people's personal experience. Still going to say Jordan. And yeah, I guess Jordan would, in my lifetime era, Jordan was the Tom Brady of, of a hundred percent. He w like, anytime Jordan was playing, you were like, well, crap. Yeah. But, but yeah, bill Russell has more rings than anyone. And so it wasn't hit the team. Bill Russell was on, it was obviously bill rose there as many teams in that time and were called different. It was a lot. Truly different, which is why, when you put all that aspect into it, Jordan is still better. That's why I loved the Olympics basketball stuff is because they were not calling those ticky tack fouls in the U S the reason they lost that first game was because they're jumping into, as they're trying to jump into people, and then they're going, where's the call? And they're like, that's only a felony MBA because you guys lobby for fouls. Yes. 'cause you guys like to, you know, lift up LeBron, James and cry about everything. Yeah. Hm. Cause I, my blood pressure is going to increase and I just can't do that right now. Not right now. So let's go into our topic for the day. All right. I called us all here today. Dusty. Yep. You have the floor. So not gonna break into song this week. Praise the Lord. We're going to talk. What you think is in the Bible, but it's actually not. Okay. Kind of just things that you've heard or especially you've been in the ministry much longer than I have, but gosh, what have you always been told? And I'll tell you, obviously, things I've been told that everyone thinks is in the Bible, but it's not. Okay. Do you have a list of things? Maybe, maybe you can ask some, like phrases, a question in a way, and then I have to guess. Okay. Um, well Mike, have you heard this. I mean, you're going to have to come up with the real ones too then. Yeah. Yeah. That would be hard to get ya. Have you heard that there were three wise men? Well, yeah. Yeah. Three wise men, uh, follow Jesus. But I know it's not, there's not, there was like 300 something like that. Right? Three gifts. There were three gifts. Yes. Uh, I'm actually trying to bring up, there we go. Yes. There are three gifts. It doesn't meet. Say that there were three wise, men just says three gifts were presented and it actually says the wise men, uh, the wise men went. It's just harder to do a Christmas play. If you're having to get 300 Wiseman to show up on stage at once. Hi, how mean I get 300 people to show up in church in general. You know, what about this? Have you ever heard that Jonah was swallowed by a whale? Yes. Yup. So does the Bible specifically say it was. Well, it was, does it say it's a fish? It says it's a great fish, a great fish. And so I think theoretically it has to be like a whale because of the possibility like that is actually possible to be swallowed by. Uh, is that the one that eats like algae sta no, it eats dead things. Usually it can swallow. I watched shark week not well week. Well, okay. This goes along with shark week, a grouper can swallow a shark hole. Oh, that's. Scary. So a grouper, I believe if I'm right, the grouper, they, it, Lee lives at like the furthest depths of the ocean. And it actually, because it's pitch black down there, it has like this light on it's for it's like finding Nemo. I don't know. I didn't find an email. There's a F they go all the way down and then, then there's like this fish with the light in front of it. Yes. Okay. So that would be a grouper. Okay. And they are these massive. Ugly things. Yeah. This one was pretty ugly, but it wasn't like a whale site. So what about this? Have you ever heard the saying money is the root of all evil? Yes. And I know where you're going with this cause it's the love of money and all kinds of evil. So it's not just all these. So that's not just saying every evil thing is a root of is the love of money. But love of money can be the root of a lot of things. Yes. A lot of evil things. Interesting. That, that one, I, that had a twist. I didn't know that one. Yup. So there's also, um, I don't speak Hebrew. Do you shut it a lot now? Where are you gonna say I was actually, and this isn't on a list or anything, but I was watching tick talk earlier. Okay. And, uh, for some reason I get this Jewish guy who knows Hebrew because I have to be Jewish. Cause that's what he is. He said he was Jewish, but they use the Torah. Yes. And so that's one of the reasons he knows Hebrew is that the first 13 books of the old Testament. So the according to him and in the Torah, the very first word, you know, the F the first sentence in, uh, in the beginning. Yeah, in the beginning. Okay. Well, in the Torah, the very first word, and I can't say the word because I don't speak Hebrew and I don't know how to pronounce pronunciate it, but the translation for that word is in a beginning. NAB beginning, not in the beginning, but in a beginning. So not the only beginning. Exactly time, time. How many mornings were there according to, well, on earth, there's in the beginning, then there's the Noah. And then there's the new beginning with Jesus. Right. So yes, but yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I G I see what you're doing there, but even the, the NOAA beginning would still be court, but all three of those still respond to, or court correlate to the same V beginning. Yeah. Because Noah would still be our linkage to Adam and Eve. Could also translate to, you know, in Cain killed Abel right. Came banished and went and married. But like, where did, like, there was other people on earth at the same time, like where those people come from, you know, like that kind of right. All right. Let's go with this. What about Mike did cause um, quote, my Dick is in the Bible. His Mike did cause quote, when he was fired from the Chicago bears. Okay. Which is this too shall pass. Oh, that's not in the Bible. No. So this actually comes rather, they say that's in the Bible. Well, he, he got it confused with the phrase it came to pass, which is in the Bible over 400 times minor, minor difference. That's right. But I mean, if you're quoting scripture, you should quote it correctly. Not form it, how you want it to say the truth behind it. If it came to pass me. And then all of a sudden, or. It past it. Well, it's like when you're telling your story and like, and so anyways, you know, then you go to the next step where this too shall pass means more like that has way more depth to it. As far as any trial, you go through with this too, shall pass Jesus. You know, like, but I mean, you try, you go through, it came to pass, you know, that's just how the different ring do it, you know? Right. But same time we still shouldn't bend the Bible to how, what we want a quick story. I'll interrupt you here. Oh, nice. One time. Your mom. And I said, that was weird. I think you hear it. So your mom and I, we were having some debate or argument and now it's acceptable. Cause you said I was there and I'm like, wait, what? We were having some debate or argument. And I was completely wrong in this situation. I can't remember what it was, but I said, well, in Zachariah nine 12, it says this and your mom was like, oh it does. And I was like, Janet, I can't lie. There's no Zachariah in the Bible. Maybe she thought you said Zachariah, maybe. I don't know what, maybe she thought I said, what Zechariah. That's not in the Bible either. You don't know, there's not a Zechariah anyway. I, I felt bad immediately when she actually took that lie. Cause it was a complete joke and she was right about whatever she was arguing about. But yeah. Anyway, so that's another thing, like if you get in an argument, just quote a book of the Bible, that's not in the Bible. Like the pastor joke would be well in first opinions, chapter two, but you can just name a biblical character in Noah chapter three, it says this, you know, people might not realize that there's not a book called. That's in the Bible. I always use second opinion, second opinion. Okay. Dusty. I want you to do something for me because I had to have proof before I did this. I want you to pull out your phone real quick. I want you to remember what you just said. What's that just say, you're going to, it's going to come up in just a second. Oh, you said, so go to your body, go to your Bible app. I know you have the Bible app on your phone. Okay. All right. Go to the books of the Bible. Yes. Okay. And you're in at the beginning, right? Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus numbers, Deuteronomy John. Okay. So slowly scroll down. Well, okay. So it should be Genesis first Kings down at the bottom. Yeah. All right, go ahead and scroll the Proverbs real quick. I'm gonna go slow. Uh, I mean, I want you to, I want this to, yeah, I'm here. All right. Now, uh, go down to go ahead and go to Joel. Okay. Okay. Now I go to Habak Habbakuk BEC book. Yep. Okay. Now I want you to read the next one. Zephaniah. What's the next. Hi guy. What's the next one? This is accurate. There's a saccharine saccharine one. Oh, wait. In the eighth month of the second year of Derrius, the word of the Lord came to the prophet, Zachariah, Baraka, and son of . Did you say America? Baraka sounds like America, America. Well, why does it any pastors preach on the word? I did not know that there was a saccharine, Janet. I apologize this whole time. I thought I made that. Apparently, I was just smart. Mom, I got your back now. I gotta see, I gotta remember what we were fighting about to see if it was in Zachariah man, years and years have passed. You drove me like, so like go to Genesis. No to exit is right now. I didn't say jumped down to certain greens. I got what I wanted to make sure you are going slow. Right. Okay. Going one book at a time. So when you saw Zechariah, you were like, what? I got the reaction now. I said, Zachariah, this is Zechariah. That's what I said. Maybe she thought you said Zachariah. You idiot. That's not even in the Bible either. Um, I'm uh, I'm interested to read what Zechariah says, man. Measuring the, with the line. Okay. Clean garments for the high priest. All right. The gold land stand and the two olive trees. That sounds like an interesting story. That sounds like Exodus. The flying scroll. Okay. For cherry is that sounds like something that would be in a movie justice and mercy, not fast. Whoa, that could be controversial. Maybe that's why people don't realize that maybe we'll have a podcast in the coming weeks. Zachariah. Exactly. Yeah. We needed to do a Zechariah podcast chapter by chapter. Okay. Yeah, I can't do that. We can, we can possibly do that. So back to what we were talking about though. Yeah. Okay. Have you ever heard that God works in mysterious ways? He always does. Amen. Hallelujah. Yup. But that's not in the Bible either. Uh, matter of fact, it is a very true ish statements, but, um, Isaiah 55. Does remind us that God's ways are different from our ways. Um, but no biblical proffer, prophet ever uttered that God works in mysterious ways, uh, about, I love the sinner. Hate the sin. Oh yeah. That's gotta be manmade a hundred percent. It's manmade. Now this goes back to the biblical time. But it's not in the Bible is actually Augustine who wrote a line that says with love for mankind and hatred for sins. So yes, it goes back to the biblical times, but it was an actual, I just thought it was something pastors made up in the last 10 years to be honest. So it actually went back to the fifth century with Augustine. So what do you, what have you heard? That's not actually in the Bible. Um, well, can you talk about Thai army, dude, if you want to go beat that horse dead, we can hit it again. Oh, here's one. I don't know. God will not give you more than you can handle. Well, well, and then, okay, then we can just go to like Philippians four 13. I can do all things through Christ that versus always misused, always misuse on no matter what you're doing, God will give you the power to accomplish it. Whether or not it's his will or not. You know, I use that to this day, but really I'm upset that the context is that, that through trials and hardships through pain and suffering, Like you can get through it. Like it's not that you're going to triumph over the team that you're playing or a triumph over the job that you're trying to get is that when you don't try and even those things that God was still there and he could do all things for him. Right? Yup. So it was just funny, like, yeah. That's, that's the big sports one, right? Yes. Yes it is. Yeah. Teebo another one. God helps. Those who help themselves. I haven't heard that one. What have you never heard? God, it sounds like a Republican statement. If I've ever heard one Republican, like, you know, like just working for what year and of getting government handouts. Well, I actually think so. I got this idea one firm take talk to the idea for this topic two from a post on Facebook, which is this exact title. And I actually think it was my dad who I saw a post on it, and it was, God will help those who help themselves. Although in Romans five eight, it actually says the exact opposite because it says we were unable to do them without Christ. Yeah. And I with when it comes to salvation, now that is a misconception. We can never do any, we can never do enough to earn salvation. You know, and sometimes we, even, after becoming a Christian, we feel like we still have to do enough and we will never do enough. Like you can, you can continue to serve God every day, but that's never going to be enough. And that's the whole point. All right. Enough has been done from the Lord. We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us, Andrew. Those are just a few things dusty that I've heard over the years. And, uh, and this list told me about which reminded me that I heard over the years. And sometimes it's good because for somebody like me, I've basically since nine years old, been in church. And so there's a lot of things like that that I think I know. And which kind of makes me not read my Bible as much as I should, because I've heard it all. You know, I've never heard of Zechariah. I just never know. Tell me a pastor, if you're a pastor and you've ever preached on Zechariah, let me know, because I do not think I've ever heard that anywhere. So, so actually, if you were at house church a few weeks, You would have known there's a Zechariah. Why is that? Because weeks ago I was, no, you are playing at the youth again. Yeah. And literally Zechariah came up in our Zechariah. Oh my God. It did. It actually came up. That's why you knew it is exactly. So when you said there wasn't a Zechariah, I immediately pulled out my. I said there wasn't a Zack Araya is true, but I said, Zechariah. And you said, well, there's not that either. Which is when I pulled out my phone and I had to find where it was. Cause I was, I knew it was in the old test medicine aware in the old Testament and I had to do this traumatic reveal for you. And so I actually, and I passed it the first. I'll be honest. And I was like, Ooh, maybe he's right. Listen to everybody remembers the first quarter of the new Testament books, but nobody cares about the middle section for halftime. Then we pick it back up. Yeah. I have time. I had an in Matthew. Garbage time, halftime garbage. He cares about those garbage time points. You know, that's why they threw Zechariah Ryan in there. I got, I don't even, have you ever heard Malakai though? I've heard of Malika. That's the very end, right? That's like that two minute drive at the end of before. It was well that's. I mean, that's, before that two minute drive at the end, a halftime, like you, you have a game you're watching, you're watching football. It starts off great. You're in there every moment. Then you're like getting some snackies, getting some drinks you're going outside. I may throw stuff on the grill. You come back. There's like two minutes left till halftime, which is Malakai. You watch that final drive get hit half time. Boom. Matthew comes out strong. Yeah, that's in Genesis when Genesis wow. Revelation wins it all. Yeah. And then you kind of, don't like, You don't really care about the three Johns Jude, you know, but then you get to revelations and we're back in there because this is where what's where boys become men right here, revelations and kind of in the middle, you know, Matthew, mark, Luke, and John, it's just the same planes over and over. Same, you know, preplanned plays and they come out and plays nothing, no tricking trick. They're not doing anything crazy. You know, then you get the James and you start saying some weird things like, okay, now I look into the middle of the game right now. That's crazy, bro. I mean a flea flicker when they're tied. Oh my goodness. Onside kicking after that. Oh my goodness. So yeah, nobody cares about those middle books as much, maybe like maybe one or two, but you know, Zechariah is right there in now was probably getting some snacks, getting some, you know, going to the bathroom, get ready for that two minute into the halftime. He was eating his oranges before half time. And his mom brought well, thanks guys for tuning in this was a fun one. Hopefully enjoyed it. Let me know if there's things that we didn't think of. Um, or if he ever preached out of the book of Zachariah. Cause I would legitimately like to know, because I would put some money that, I mean, there's going to be one idiot that did one time, but other than you're. You're an idiot because you're listening to this podcast with two idiots in the Bible belt talking about what is in or not in the Bible. And apparently I don't even know if it's in there in the Bible. So I see why you retired from youth ministry. Yup. I'm not teaching children anymore. Have a good one guys.

Therefore, hats off to all you Youth Pastors out there. (*and Children's Ministers) I don't know how you do it. I don't have the mental capacity to withstand 2 hours a week in that environment... It's not for me. I'm announcing my retirement from Youth Ministry. :-)

But don’t let the birthday candles fool you — things get real. The guys dive into the rhythms of their house church gatherings, the spiritual leadership Dusty apparently doesn't want from Andrew, and what it means to be involved in faith communities that aren't confined to four walls and a sound system. There’s talk of vulnerability, authenticity, and the beauty (and chaos) of doing life together — even when it gets weird.

And of course, what’s a Bible Belt Bros episode without some light-hearted jabs at church culture? From the classic “church hugs vs. real hugs” debate to navigating awkward prayer requests and the unspoken rules of potluck politics, the duo reflect on their experiences with honesty and humor. Expect inside jokes, thoughtful moments, and enough laughter to make your drive to church a little more fun.

This episode also revisits a fan-favorite topic: church pet peeves. Whether it's the “just as I am” altar call marathon or overly aggressive greeters who smell like anointing oil and disappointment, nothing’s off-limits — in the best way possible. The Bros reflect on how their views have changed, grown, or gotten even more sarcastic with time.

So whether you're deep into your faith journey, burned out on church politics, or just here for the laughs, this episode delivers the raw, relatable energy you’ve come to expect from Bible Belt Bros. And yeah, we may or may not sing happy birthday. (Okay, we don’t. But we should have.)

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• What house church looks like for real people with jobs, kids, and junk drawers

• Pet peeves and past regrets — including the infamous worship leader rant

• Why spiritual leadership isn’t about titles, and why that’s freeing

• The unspoken rules of being “church hurt” and still showing up

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Truth be told, Dusty is not the biggest fan of Die Hard. Actually, He's only seen the movie in its entirety only once or twice, but every year at Christmas the debate comes up. Is Die Hard the best Christmas Movie?

It's one of the most overused jokes at Christmas time and it's especially on the list of corny pastor jokes they like to tell from the pulpit. The Epic Christian Debate.... but we have a better question... IF watching RATED R movies is a sin (as some may say) then are pastors and church leaders promoting sin by promoting Die Hard? hmmmmmmm

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