The Change Room with Rod & Lesley

S4-11 - Grounding yourself to reset your mindset

Wed, 29 May 2024 09:02:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about taking a beat. Taking a breath. Counting to three. What you can and should do to regularly pause and reset your mindset when going from one thing to the next - AND - when going into something that is a little nerve inducing. Walk through the metaphorical door as you go into every new encounter and interaction and be who you want to be.

S4-10 - Our take on Tools by Stutz

Wed, 08 May 2024 10:54:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about the book 'The Tools' by Phil Stutz and Barry Michaels. Despite Lesley's misgivings, Rod spent some time last year reading this book following a netflix sesh where he watched the biography 'Stutz'. Being the researcher for this episode, Rod takes us through the Tools and what he found helpful and Lesley gives her reaction and insight into what resonates for her.

S4-09 - The mind-body connection

Wed, 01 May 2024 08:01:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk more about reframing examples - this time exploring the interconnection between the mind - the brain - and the body. You know when you are thinking about something, all of a sudden you starting seeing examples of it everywhere? Well, this is what is happening with our podcast duo. They share personal experience on how changing how you think about what is happening to you (in mind and body), changes how your mind and body react. Slightly confused? When you listen, all will be revealed.

Reference links --

an economist article is referenced in the (sorry, subscription needed :-/) https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2024/04/24/many-mental-health-conditions-have-bodily-triggers

Bounce back program material that shows the mind/body/behaviour interrelationship (flip to page 5 on the graphic booklet) https://bouncebackontario.ca/adults/support-materials/

S4-08 - Reframing (Part 2)

Wed, 24 Apr 2024 10:47:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley come back to the topic of reframing and talk about how important it is. Rod suggests that it is so powerful, the skill should be part of school curriculum (are you listening people who shape school curriculum!). Lesley nicely ties it into how we can use reframing in our individual change journeys - take the perspective to think about what we should un-become, instead of what we should become.

"Maybe the journey isn't so much about becoming anything. Maybe it's about un-becoming everything that isn't really you, so you can be who you were meant to be in the first place". Paulo Coelho.

S4-07 - Giving yourself some grace through the ups and downs of change

Thu, 11 Apr 2024 06:49:41 -0400

In this episode, Lesley gets Rod's reaction to something she has been thinking about - giving ourselves some grace as we are trying to change, and find it isn't a straight path.

S4-06 - Reframing is a powerful cosmic force (Part 1)

Wed, 27 Mar 2024 10:31:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley bring in the powerful concept of reframing as they build on the previous episodes this season which talked about emotions and how the universe is all about change. They consider the quantum theory concept we heard about the importance of movement, action, and becoming; in relation to expressing emotions. If we have learned anything, the universe is better at describing things when they interact - and thus the message is, get better at allowing express emotions to be in an interaction state versus a static being state. The reframing concept is so big that it will cover a couple of episodes as they move through the implications of perspective (or is it that the concept of reframing and perspective is moving through your trusted podcasters?)

S4-05 - To be one with the Universe is to change (Part 2)

Wed, 20 Mar 2024 11:50:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley continue their discussion inspired by theoretical physicist Carol Rovelli (wiki bio). The revelation is that the 'grammar of thinking about the world is change, not of permanence. Not of being but of becoming. The world is not a collection of things; it is a collection of events" (C Rovelli). For these two podcasters about change, and helping people understand change - mind blow sound effect.

Discussion ensues around coming to grips with the idea that the physics of the universe and time is aligned with human need to evolve and change.

Production note - the audio is a little different this time due to Rod's recording studio. You will also hear at times some sound interference, which is a dog licking the microphone - as they are want to do.

S4-04 - Time to change your view of time (Part 1)

Wed, 06 Mar 2024 12:41:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into the realm of quantum physics and seek to understand the concept of time. Yes, this does relate to understanding change. Rod and Lesley are reading/listening to a book by Carlo Rovelli called 'The Order of Time'. Carlo is a 'specialist in quantum gravity theory' and does a good job of explaining some big brain ideas (via a translation from Italian). You can hear in this discussion that our two fearless podcasters are cautiously relating an introductory understand and exploring their interpretations as they make sense of the concepts. This will be a multi part series as there is much to get through. It is deep stuff but ultimately important to help us understand how we experience change.

S4-03 - More on learning about yourself through learning about your emotional side

Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:46:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley take care of some unfinished business. Last week's discussion on emotions wasn't quite complete, and then the superbowl happened, giving a great example of emotions on display. No, this isn't some click bait reference to Rod's favourite power pop/football couple. (notice no names are mentioned in the episode title). For anyone who was watching the big game, uncle Travy had a little angry outburst towards his coach, that was then dissected in detail on sports shows, and memes, and then on his podcast with the king of Philly, brother Jason.

And in this high profile bro Kelce deep dive into the sharing of emotions, we find the point that Rod and Lesley are trying to make. It is a nuanced one, so you might want to listen to this episode a few times to catch it. When you do, you'll see that our emotional sides are key to finding who we are as individuals and (like many things), advice for one person might be the exact opposite advice to another. The point is to explore what matters to you, and do it with others to help you have perspective.

S4-02 - More on how we've changed - learning how to be with our emotions

Wed, 14 Feb 2024 11:00:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley continue the conversation about what they've learned over the past year. This time it is more about what Rod learned about how he can be emotional. This type of self discovery (and acceptance) doesn't come by accident as you'll here. It involves getting into the shadow and self reflection ask why am I feeling this way.

As we are now in season four, we have the unique opportunity to see how Rod has changed on this topic because back in Season 1, these two debated the influence of the Rider (Spock) versus the Elephant (emotions). Check it out for yourself to see. https://thechangeroomwithrodandlesley.podbean.com/e/ep50-spock-vs-emotions-the-controversy-continues/

Lesley refers to Brené Brown's atlas of emotions. Link here https://brenebrown.com/resources/atlas-of-the-heart-list-of-emotions/

S4-01 - Did you miss us?

Wed, 07 Feb 2024 21:45:25 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley return! Contrary to news otherwise, the podcast is not retired in the sunset of being a covid era hobby. They are back after almost eight months off and ready to talk once again about Change. As they get back to it, you hear the rust that needs to be worked through in Rod's dry monotone voice and you’ll smile as you’re reminded of the freshness of Lesley's trusty energy! These two talk a little about what has gone on over the past year, and what it is like to change from change.

S3-11 - The importance of having friends to talk to....(A love letter to Ted Lasso)

Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:04:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into the importance of having close friends to talk to - at work. To drive home the point, they use the popular Apple TV+ show Ted Lasso as their case study. Rod starts by stating his theory, that the TV show eerily mirror this Podcast. Ted Lasso started in August 2020, the Change Room Podcast started recording in August 2020 (with first airing in October). Story lines and topics parallel on the way so highlight just how we care about the same themes.

In the end, this episode is also Rod and Lesley's love letter of appreciation for Ted Lasso, and all the good it conveyed, especially the importance of having trusted friends that you can talk to when you need to get out of your own head.

S3-10 - Into the mystic: More interpretations of the subconscious

Wed, 31 May 2023 12:46:22 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley pick up from where they left off and continue to talk about Carl Jung's ideas. This time, they into the mystical subconscious. They talk about energy impulses that some think connect the us to the universe. This is the kind of topic that Rod probably wouldn't have known what to do with it a couple of years ago - but now, he is seeing how some of it comes together. As always, Lesley is a step ahead. References in the podcast to a discussion on 'Seek, and it will seek you' from way back in Season 1, Episode 40. The book - Midlife: Humanity's Secret Weapon by Andrew Jamieson. https://www.amazon.ca/Midlife-Humanitys-Secret-Andrew-Jamieson/dp/1912559382 (we have no referral payments set up) Pauli, refers to Wolfgang Pauli. Read more here on his and Jung's theory of Synchronicity - https://nautil.us/the-synchronicity-of-wolfgang-pauli-and-carl-jung-238037/

S3-09 - Is it even possible to change oneself? Can you help us Carl Jung?

Wed, 17 May 2023 11:45:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley go way back. They go to what could the origin story question 'can we change?' and reach back a 100 years to Carl Jung for help in answering the question. This topic was inspired from a book Rod is reading now called "Midlife : humanity's secret weapon" by Andrew Jamieson.

This is a deep thinking discussion into the subconscious, archetypes, and the mystical. All things Carl Jung explored from the camp of 'yes, we can change, but it takes a lot of work into self awareness and individuation'.

As always, Rod and Lesley make a big topic accessible and fun.

S3-08 - Making decisions, picking a path, changes how you think

Wed, 10 May 2023 11:19:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley pick up after a long break for the podcast with a topic they have discussed before - decision making. While Lesley remains confident in her decisive decision making approach, Rod has evolved. He explains what it feels like for someone who liked to leave their options open, to force themselves to pick a path. Transformative!

ps - stay tuned, Rod and Lesley are back and next week's episode is already recorded and it is profound, deep, and will be a classic. They ask the question 'is it even possible to change oneself. And in doing so, tap into Carl Jung for some guidance. Look for it next Wednesday.

S3-07 - New Year’s resolution themes vs goals

Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:05:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk new year's resolutions and all things that make us not like them. The shift the focus on accepting best efforts versus hard smart goals. There is discussion about new year's reflections on do betters; all with a desire to avoid making ourselves feel worse when we don't follow through.

S3-06 - Mulling over self determination theory

Wed, 21 Dec 2022 06:19:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley take in something called, 'self-determination theory'. Rod did some deep research and set the stage by explaining the theory and Lesley brought it to life with some real life reactions and examples. For more of your own research, go to the source and check out this site here. https://selfdeterminationtheory.org/the-theory/

S3-05 - Politeness and finding your voice

Wed, 14 Dec 2022 06:11:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley take inspiration from Geena Davis' biography (Dying of Politeness) to discuss what it is like to be polite and unimposing in the world we live in. They wonder about people who aren't absorbed in worrying whether they have been impolite. Rod hasn't read the book in question but feels like he knows the subject intimately and has lots to say.

S3-04 - Choosing between right and happy

Wed, 07 Dec 2022 07:33:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about the times when it is good to choose happy over right. Right being the thing that we are sure is true and that needs to be imparted on those around us. As Lesley explains to Rod, sometimes, it is better to choose a good relationship than the need to be seen as right.

S3-03 - Return to office, part 2

Wed, 19 Oct 2022 22:05:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley continue the conversation on return to office. This time, they take the insights to a new level and realize some of the big barriers to getting people in the routine of returning to the office - one gem, too many decisions to make each day when switching up routines. Leslie still doesn't know the theme song to the Jetsons, but does show that this podcast might one day do an episode in the form of interpretative song.

S3-02 - Returning to old habits - like going into the office

Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:31:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley continue with the theme of returning, and dive into the return to office and the future of work after the big, long, scary pandemic called COVID. Thinking about the future of work they see the Jetsons - and for those wondering what the theme song was, here it is - https://youtu.be/tTq6Tofmo7E They also discuss the balance and benefits between flexibility and routine and how people are experiencing the change.

S3-01 - Getting back into the swing of things

Thu, 06 Oct 2022 06:35:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into the age old challenge of - getting back into the swing of things. Yes, they took the summer off. Yes, they 'relaxed', and 'recharged', and forgot all about podcasting. Getting back into the routine is hard, and this is a common challenge for anyone who is trying to make changes in life - when the reality is a 'change' is never something that sticks 100% of the time.

S3-Intro - The Change Room is back for season 3

Tue, 04 Oct 2022 23:30:29 -0400

We're back! It was a long break for us but good to take the summer off and come back recharged. More episodes to come!

S2-23 - Breathing training from Lesley

Wed, 23 Mar 2022 14:13:00 -0400

In this episode, Lesley takes the lead and walks Rod, and you listeners, through breathing training. Inhale 1 - 2 - 3; hold 1 - 2 - 3; exhale 1 - 2 - 3.... Rod asks the newbie questions, following Lesley's expert guidance to a calmer amygdala. A note to our faithful listeners... Rod and Lesley are taking a mid-season 2 intermission and will be back in a couple of months.

S2-22 - From cognitive dissonance to harmonic resonance

Wed, 16 Mar 2022 11:59:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley dig deep into the vault of 1950s psychology experiments to talk about Cognitive Dissonance. This is a term is used to describe the mental discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs, values, or attitudes. Rod and Lesley relate real examples of when this comes up, and how to spot these uncomfortable dissonance feelings - which is the first step into dealing with them.

S2-21 - Talking biases

Thu, 10 Mar 2022 16:19:23 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about their favourite biases. No, ones they like that we have, silly. The ones they think are worth knowing more about so we can start to overcome them. They discuss biases in recognition of March 8 and international women's day. The conversation gets into understanding micro aggressions, types on how to talk about them, and a recognition that we all have more to learn!

S2-20 - Sometimes the easy to believe stuff, is just plain misleading

Tue, 01 Mar 2022 11:56:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley discuss the change adoption curve (The innovation adoption curve). This is part two of two in the mini series that takes on well known models and helps you know their misinterpretations. The upside-down-U-bell-shaped curve that is taught ubiquitously through many change management courses. It is Rod's turn to go through a commonly known concept by those in the change field, and widely heard of term by everyone else - and bash it apart! Yes, it is intuitive to think there are early adopters to something, and there are laggards, or change resistors too. Listen to hear why this leads you down the wrong path and why not to take simple models too far.

S2-19 - Is it the 80/20 rule or the 20/80 rule?

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:55:59 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about something we all thought we knew - but were (mostly) wrong! Many of us have heard about the 80/20 rule. But, as Lesley will explain, it is really the 20/80 rule. And the origin was based on the idea that 20 percent effort leads to 80 percent of the outcome. This episode is the first of a mini series of two where your fearless hosts take on simple models that have lost their way and lead people to wrong ideas. Next week... the 'Change Curve'... from adopters to resisters.

S2-18 - Forgiving yourself and others

Thu, 10 Feb 2022 09:36:53 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into the little bit messy conversation on forgiveness. Sharing experience that can help the process of forgiving others to move on from the negative shackles. As well as recognizing the importance of forgiving yourself when occasion arises.

S2-17 - Projecting your projections

Wed, 02 Feb 2022 14:48:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about projections. Not financial projections, but the psychological kind. In particular, sub-conscious projections that we humans put onto interpreting the intent, motivations, and behaviours of others. This wide ranging and open conversation is filled with questions with some answers. In the spirit of Bell Talk week, promoting awareness and reducing the stigma of mental health issues, this habit of humans to project is one that deserves better understanding.

S2-16 - How to go from confident decision making to self-doubt in one easy step

Wed, 26 Jan 2022 08:00:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into what it is like when you challenge your assumptions. Lesley is destabilized and Rod does a little happy dance at her expense. Is he really that mean? No, it was all for show. The topic this week is based on Lesley's BFF Adam Grant's book think again, which put her into quite the tailspin as she challenged her assumptions. Rod has years of experience challenging his own thinking and so it was nice for him to see this hypothesis based decision flexibility have its day.

S2-15 - What is more Canadian than...’Sorry’ ?

Wed, 19 Jan 2022 18:29:02 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into a slice of Canadiana...saying sorry. Apologizing for pretty much anything is a common habit many of us have, and Rod is taking aim at it. While it might be polite, it can get your mind reacting to things that don't deserve the attention, you can give an unintended vibe, and it is an easy way out of taking accountability (ironically enough). Listen to hear Lesley's sorry stories, and attacks on sorries from Rod.

S2-14 - Choosing optimism

Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:40:32 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley realize they aren't done yet with dealing with the psychology of the pandemic. They find themselves in another 'reflection' of pandemic now, and what is ahead. This discussion riffs off of an idea around informed optimism (from Adam Grant) that these two turn into choosing optimism.

S2-13 - Ending the year like it started, finding joy in the little things

Fri, 24 Dec 2021 10:02:23 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley reflect on the year and how we find ourselves in a similar place as we started the year - facing a Covid lockdown. It is Lesley's turn to bring the story and she shares how a potential frustrating anger producing scenario was switched by focusing on the little pleasures that are all around. Yes, it sounds like a hallmark card, but it is Christmas after all. These two are taking a holiday season break and will be back in the first week of the new year. Best wishes to all our listeners!!

S2-12 - The questions you ask, shape your mindset

Wed, 15 Dec 2021 14:54:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk questions. After gushing over fandom of audiobook narrators, Rod shares a recent discovery - Change your questions, Change your life: by Marilee Adams. This book was almost ignored due to the cheesy overpromising awesomeness used in the intro, but it turned out to be a gem. The book is worth the read (or listen) to learn how you can switch your mindset in the moment through switching the types of questions you ask. As Lesley points out, it is like switching from the fixed mindset to the growth mindset in the moment, with the turn of a question.

Listen for some shared tips. Check our Marilee Adams' book here or at your local library. Yes, there is also gushing over libraries in this episode.

S2-11 - The space between Tiger and Eeyore

Wed, 08 Dec 2021 12:19:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about Winnie the Pooh. Using the example of positive Tiger, and negative Eeyore, they talk about the grey area in between. When is positivity toxic, what you can do when the negativity is dragging you down. Rod and Lesley dive into deep and bring it back at the end with a simple message - choose what energy you'll absorb from others.

S2-10 - The problem with round numbers

Wed, 01 Dec 2021 10:42:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley explore what Rod coined as 'the law of round numbers'. Round numbers can be a good thing to give you something to strive for, but they should never be taken literally, and they discuss common pitfalls when that happens.

S2-09 - Rules to live by

Mon, 29 Nov 2021 09:50:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley share their version of 'rules to live by'. Everyone and their uncle has published a set of rules to live by, and these two didn't want to let that go without a little critique, and their sharing their own version. Some gems on their very short list - Get enough sleep; Choose to be kind; When in doubt - write it out!

S2-08 - The spectre of ...duh duh duuuuun

Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:17:45 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley time warp themselves back a couple of weeks to halloween and get a little scary creepy. They talk about how the spectre of death helps bring focus to living your life. Duh duh duuuuun. Lesley expands on what was putting her into a funk last week and that leads them into the philosophical quotes of wise androids like Data (from Star Trek).

S2-07 - When stresses collide and you get in a funk

Wed, 10 Nov 2021 20:27:33 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley put Lesley under the microscope. What is up with her this week that she has doubt and difficultly making a decision? The timely situation becomes a good reminder of how to take in, and except the moments in life that put you off your game...with the goal that they don't linger too long and get in the way of the positive change and growth that helps us thrive.

S2-06 - Halloween edition - Scary Covid Part 2

Thu, 04 Nov 2021 21:38:13 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley don't even bother remarking 'can you believe we have had two COVID tainted halloweens?'. Yes, there is nothing scarier to confront than Covid once again. Last year, they were wound up about different approaches to managing the pandemic, and this year, ...well, let's just say they are still wound-up. Rod and Lesley had best intentions of talking about the adjustment we are going through as things start 'opening up', but it ended up being a big share fest of observations relating to what it is like to interact in public again.

S2-05 - Learning to let go as you change

Wed, 27 Oct 2021 11:36:19 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley share inspiration from a thought leader they both love - Seth Godin. They have gushed over Seth before, and his idea this time was "what will you leave behind". Seth's advice falls into the camp of, meaningful and ambiguous enough that you can read into what you want. Queue the discussion. Listen to the episode to hear thoughts on how you have to let go of things to change. Even things you like and enjoyed in moments of your life, but might need to let go.

S2-04 - The campsite rule: Leave people better than you found them

Wed, 20 Oct 2021 10:06:24 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley propose a new rule to live by - the campsite rule. In a nutshell, the campsite rule that Lesley knows is from relationship advice podcaster/blogger Dan Savage. Leave your romantic partners better or the same when you leave them as they were when you found them. Inspired by what you would think is a rule about how to care for a campsite (though, no campsite we googled had this rule). The discussion explores the brilliance of the campsite rule, how it forces you to think more of the other person in your personal and work relationships, and how it might just be better than the golden rule (do one to others as you would have done to yourself).

S2-03 - Reconcili-action. Part 2 Interview with Paul Haigh to mark September 30th Truth and Reconciliation Day

Mon, 04 Oct 2021 08:30:14 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley invite Paul Haigh back for a part 2 interview to discuss change in the context of truth and reconciliation in Canada. Or as Paul suggested, we think of reconcili-action. Another engaging and educating discussion to better understand the indigenous experience, making up for our ignorance, and hopefully being enlightening for our listeners too. There are many reference links to share. • Call to action 82 - Building a monument to honour residential school survivors. Learn more here https://irsslegacy.com/about/ • Learn and change through art - several artists were mentioned ◦ CBC Documentary - We Know the Truth: Stories to Inspire Reconciliation - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/indigenous-people-flip-the-conversation-on-reconciliation-in-new-documentary-1.6193545 ◦ Kent Monkman - https://www.kentmonkman.com ◦ Lee Maracle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Maracle ◦ Thomas King - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_King_(novelist) ◦ Jesse Wente - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Wente

S2-02 - Learning about the 94 calls to action

Fri, 01 Oct 2021 10:06:08 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about Truth and Reconciliation and spend their time to learn more about the 94 calls to action. They share the humility of ignorance and touch on a few of the calls to action. Take the time to explore them yourselves, and be ready to be shocked about how much you didn't know.

Check out this site to help your learning - https://nctr.ca/records/reports/

S2-01 - Holding on to the vacation dreams of change

Sun, 26 Sep 2021 22:44:00 -0400

S1-51 - Season 1 finale, preview to season 2

Sat, 07 Aug 2021 09:45:14 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley reflect on their first season of 'The Change Room' and look forward to season 2. We'd love to hear your suggestions around what we are doing to do more of next year. You'll have to listen to learn more.

S1-50 - Spock vs Emotions - the controversy continues

Thu, 29 Jul 2021 22:47:53 -0400

In this episode, Rod champions the role of rational argument, striking back after last episode where the elephant was getting all the attention versus the rider. Rod deftly brings up solid facts to show how the rational approach is how minds can be changed. Lesley, calmly champions the power of emotions to really get someone behind an idea. The debate plays out...who will win. You must listen to find out.

S1-49 - The Elephant and the rider

Fri, 16 Jul 2021 13:54:38 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley explore the concept of the elephant and the rider that was popularized by Chip and Dan Heath and developed by Jonathan Haigt. The Elephant is your emotions, and the rider is your logic brain that tries to get the big elephant of emotions. Good luck with that. As always, they shine different light on concepts and come up with an important new interpretation - it is not about trying to keep the rider in total control, it is about finding the balance for both be part of the whole. References made to Chip and Dan Heath, the Elephant and the Rider concept, and the podcast Two Psychologists Four Beers

S1-48 - REPLAY - The 5% Better rule to making change happen

Wed, 07 Jul 2021 14:58:00 -0400

It is a long weekend and we are taking the weekend. This time, not celebrating Canada Day as much as reflecting more on Indigenous History. This episode is a replay of Episode 19 - The 5% Better rule for making change happen In this episode, Rod and Lesley build on the conversation last week about Nathaniel Branden's Six Pillars of Self-Esteem. As part of his work, Nathaniel Branden pioneered a technique to get people to think in baby steps. Rod puts Lesley on the spot with questions on how she can make her life 5% better. From 5% improvements, Rod shares another book's idea of making change through tiny steps. BJ Fogg's book 'Tiny Habits' gets some love for the great ideas on how to Lesley out of the house and walking three times a week.

S1-47 - Should you seek advice, or not

Wed, 30 Jun 2021 14:51:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about what to do with advice. Is it helpful if you seek it? What should you do if you receive it unsolicited? Why do some seek advice more than others? This is an episode that gets into the small ball (i.e., the nuances) of what we all do when we are considering change or confronted by it.

S1-46 - Interview with Paul Haigh to honour Indigenous Heritage Month

Mon, 21 Jun 2021 08:26:36 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley interview Paul Haigh to honour and discuss Indigenous History. This episode is the most powerful and gripping one yet as Paul shares his history as an indigenous person and his work at Council Fire in Toronto. No short synopsis can capture the breadth of the conversation and the important topics. A few important links that Rod and Lesley are exploring and encourage you do as well. • The Truth and Reconciliation Commission - http://www.trc.ca. Paul recommends you read through the 94 recommendations - here. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2091412-trc-calls-to-action Rod suggests you go through the historical documents of government legislation and treaties - because they never taught this in school when Rod was growing up. • National Indigenous People's Day - June 21st - and National Indigenous Heritage Month • The 1989 Movie - Where the Spirit Lives. Paul was moved by it in 1989 and just watched it again the night before our podcast recording. You can find the full film on Youtube here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7aW4tzklTLQ

S1-45 - The Fear of Success

Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:23:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley discuss the fear of success and how that stops people from making good change in their lives. Like many good tips, the way to get around this type of fear has three steps. Three is the magic, along with visualization and the right kind of positive self talk.

S1-44 - Fake it until you make it

Wed, 09 Jun 2021 22:00:28 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley spend some time in the 80s to understand a saying that is still active today. That is 'Fake it until you make it'. References to 80s movies and some more recent books, plus sprinkled in stories, make this episode an interesting one. The insight discussed here is to be wary of the expression and use with caution and a clear mind. Like everything, the answer is nuanced.

S1-43 - Head, Heart, and Gut - an interview with Mary Munro

Wed, 02 Jun 2021 16:19:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley conduct their second interview with Mary Munro. If you follow someone on instagram, and not sure who they are but are mesmerized by their posts of fermenting things, baking, discovery plants. Well, that is probably Mary. In this discussion, Mary shares her view on on the interconnection of the head, heart, and gut. The gut seems to get the most attention in this talk because there is food and drink involved. The theme connecting it all together is Mental Health as we come to the end of Mental Health Awareness month of May, 2021. Check out Mary's creations at https://www.instagram.com/bigbank2riverbank/ Follow

S1-42 - Replay of Ep6 - Every day, in every way, I‘m getting better and better

Wed, 26 May 2021 08:01:00 -0400

It is a long weekend and we took a break to refresh. This episode is from our early days. Here is Episode 6! We hit our stride in this episode. We dive into self-talk and auto-suggestion. References to 100 year old French guys, and 1990s SNL skits are part of our exploring whether positive self-talk matters. Lesley reveals that she thinks 'getting to a higher vibrational place' is a good thing, and Rod confesses that despite being a skeptic, it was the book 'Think and Grow Rich' that sparked his interest in psychology.

S1-41 - Change leadership

Thu, 20 May 2021 08:00:09 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley take a concept that is common in their professional lives of change management, and projects it into non work situations. Change leadership is about owning and leading through a change, which is kind of the point of this podcast. They share more stories and related work jargon to real situations.

S1-40 - What you seek is seeking you...or is it the other way around?

Thu, 13 May 2021 22:37:15 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley grapple with seeing thinks differently. All starting with a poem and moving to a gum commercial, they discuss their different points of view, and their reactions to the difference. The quote from the poem is 'what you seek, is seeking you' by Rumi. The gum commercial is the Extra one making the rounds. Rod takes this one outside with the birds in the backyard and so chirping can be heard. Also mentioned in this episode is Lesley's favourite spots for buying important things such as fridge magnets and sayings written on signs. Aptly named 'Anything Goes Accessories' in the St. Lawrence Market and oddly named 'El Pipil' on the Danforth.

S1-39 - Much ado about not needing to change at all

Thu, 06 May 2021 08:30:06 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley build off of last week's discussion to acknowledge, that many times all the angst on needing to change leads to the realization that you don't need to change at all. When they talk about the RAIN model, or the power of labelling how you are feeling to move through it. The essence is that you are ok to be who you are or to feel how you do. With that pressure off of worrying about changing 100 things, you can relax a little and think about a smaller number of habits or behaviours you would like to do differently.

S1-38 - Languishing, and how labelling helps to get over it

Thu, 29 Apr 2021 18:18:03 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about something that is happening a lot in COVID times - and probably happened a lot before too. The feeling that we are languishing or stuck. Inspired by Lesley's fanboy Adam Grant and his recent NY Times article, we talked about the feeling of 'meh'. While Rod isn't yet signing up to the fan list for Mr Grant, he did admit to being well practised in the art of languishing. The big insight that Lesley had after reading the article is what is really interesting. It wasn't an 'a-ha' moment, it was the feeling she had of being able to label her COVID blahs. Listen to find out more.... ps - The intro music is played by Lesley on cello on a piece specially written for our podcast by her cello teacher, Mary Katherine Finch (www.marykatherinefinch.com)

S1-37 - You think you have it bad...well, I have it worse

Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:20:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about winning at suffering. You think you have it bad, well... let me tell you. To get in the mood, they suggest you start with an old Monte Python clip about old English guys lamenting about how good it was when it was so bad. Lesley reveals that it was the moment that she saw in herself that she was winning at suffering that she decided to win at happiness instead. Rod quizzes Lesley and they get at a few tips. If you find you are being one-upped on the suffering scale, recognize your reaction of feeling invalidated and give the other person some compassion. Be curious to see if they are a friend in need, or a friend in a bad habit (if you listen, you'll get it). ps - The intro music is played by Lesley on cello on a piece specially written for our podcast by her cello teacher, Mary Katherine Finch (www.marykatherinefinch.com)

S1-36 - When you need a change but don‘t realize it

Thu, 15 Apr 2021 22:24:42 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley take an experience with figuring out a vaccine registration portal to talk about when you need a change but don't realize it. Like the fish who doesn't realize they are in water, we as humans don't realize we needed a break until we take the break. Or, we didn't realize how crappy the stress was, until we are free from the stress. In an ironic twist, both Rod and Lesley realize that there is a way (even though they didn't see it at first). And that way is to leverage the RAIN approach (Recognize, Allow, Investigate, and Nuture - discussed in an earlier episode), when you start to get the hint that you might be in a spot that you should change from. ps - You'll hear new intro music. That is played by Lesley on cello and written by her teacher Mary Katherine Finch (www.marykatherinefinch.com)

S1-35 - Apply change management in our own lives...

Wed, 07 Apr 2021 21:42:16 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley consider if the old adage of the cobbler's kids having bad shoes applies to change managers. Following their intuition, it doesn't. In fact, it seems that once 'change management' is into your essence, it is hard not to focus on others when trying to make a change happen. This causes a little crisis of ethics...but only for a moment. Listen to hear what Rod and Lesley both do when trying to get family members to adopt their ideas.

S1-34 - What to do when every day is the same - a life absent of change

Wed, 31 Mar 2021 20:32:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley take on a new challenge - what do you do when there is no change in our lives. When every day is the same! They talk about how we now have to plan ahead for surprise moments. Yes, it might take the spontaneity out of it, but novelty in our day to day is still a good thing. They also reflect on how we have all changed to adapt to this Groundhog Day life, and that it will be a change process again when this eventually ends.

S1-33 - Why tough decisions help you understand yourself

Fri, 26 Mar 2021 09:29:33 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about how they are polar opposite on decision making. Rod, mulls over decisions in-depth. Lesley, makes them with ease. Tough decisions, of course, are moments where we make change happen in our lives. One benefit of thinking about, and learning about tough decision making is that it reveals the gift that it can give you. When tough options are difficult to compare on a pro and con list, how you make the decision is a way to express who you are as an individual.

For anyone who is like Rod and mulls over hard choices in a long drawn out way, this Ted Talk explores this topic. The talk is long winded and hard to follow, but listen carefully to the last three minutes, the insight is reveal.

How to make hard choices by Ruth Chang

S1-32 - Anything change for you this past (COVID) year?

Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:25:00 -0400

In this episode, Rod and Lesley mark the one year anniversary of COVID lockdown with a reflective discussion on what it was like a year ago, and how we have changed since. To the surprise of no one, Rod reveals himself as a worrier, and Lesley thinks buying a few extra cans of soup makes her a prepper. Discussion touches briefly on the space time continuum and reveals that Lesley can't wait to get back to giving awkwardly long hugs to people (to the surprise of no one).

S1-31 - International Women‘s Day - choose to challenge

Sun, 07 Mar 2021 17:42:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley honour International Women's Day March 8, 2021 with with an open and genuine conversation about what it means to choose to challenge. Lesley shares great insight and personal stories on how she has changed her view on what it means to be involved in Women in Leadership initiatives. This is their longest podcast to-date, but there was much to discuss and share.

#ChooseToChallenge #IWD2021

S1-30 - R.A.I.N. helps in the mind as well as the garden

Wed, 03 Mar 2021 16:49:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley share the R.A.I.N. mindfulness based model, developed by Tara Brach as a way to help when feeling overwhelmed with fight or flight emotions. You'll hear Lesley share her fan-girl crush for podcaster Laurie Santos (Happiness Lab) along side her mental block with A. (yes, the letter A).

Rod admits to be decent at Recognizing emotions but not much more than that. Sharing the common challenge we all have to resist trying to fix our, and other's, problems.

Find out more about R.A.I.N. at https://www.tarabrach.com/rain/

S1-29 - Amina Charles interview - literacy learner, advocate, and business owner

Sun, 21 Feb 2021 12:54:56 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley do their first interview! In honour of Black History Month, they invited Amina Charles to join them and share her experience of change in her life. And what a story it is! Rod and Lesley were left in awe listening to such a courageous and positive personality. Amina shares her story of coming to Canada at 12 to being in an adult literacy learner, to participating in her first protest, to starting her own business. Reference links •MTML (Metro Toronto Movement for Literacy) www.mtml.ca •Amina's online business True Tranquillity that sells crystal infused candals - www.truetranquillity.com

S1-28 - Dealing with disappointment - The anti-Valentines show

Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:36:53 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about dealing with disappointment. And leave it to these two to bring this topic up on Valentine's Day. It wasn't heart-break that motivated this topic though, it was the cancelation of March Break ! This discussion picks up in many ways from the New Year's episode (Episode 22) discussing Hope and Optimism for 2021 in the time of Covid. They knew then that s*** would happen, but it always seems like a surprise when it does. Ps - Next week will be a surprise episode with something we've never done before.

S1-27 - Trying again with changing your friends

Wed, 10 Feb 2021 07:22:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley - like so many people - take another crack at trying to change their friends and family. In this case, it is about trying to convince someone to change their mind when you think they have a crazy belief. The big topics are covered. (yes, vaccinations. QAnon). You'll hear Rod and Lesley refer to this NY Times opinion article from Adam Grant called 'The Science of Reasoning With Unreasonable People' --> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/31/opinion/change-someones-mind.html?smid=url-share

S1-26 - Let‘s talk about mental health

Sun, 31 Jan 2021 20:16:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley contribute to the discussion on mental health, in honour of Bell's Let's Talk day that was earlier in the week. Rod and Lesley share how they have seen the stigma of mental health play out and change over time. They both take a sidebar to gush over the word segue (as in linking thoughts, not, as in hands free scooter). Some helpful links. The Bounce Back program that is available in Ontario - https://bouncebackontario.ca The 'Five Areas' model - five areas assessment model - Google Search

S1-25 - Happiness Part 3 - Finding Flow

Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:42:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley pick up the conversation on happiness by diving into the concept of flow (see Episodes 7 & 8 for parts 1 & 2). Think of 'being in the zone', or the times when you get so absorbed in what you are doing that you lose track of time. That is flow. According to the researcher who developed it (Mihaly Csikszentmihályi), it is in flow states that we are the most happiest. Since much of the books/research/thinking on how to make changes to our lives to increase happiness refer to this concept, it is worthwhile to spend a little time on it. As is their modus operandi, Rod and Lesley give a realistic view on what practically people can do to build this in their day to day. As an aside, Rod reflects on Lesley pushing the bird out of the nest by sharing this podcast to her network. Welcome listeners!

S1-24 - The grass seems greener over at the Joneses

Wed, 20 Jan 2021 20:55:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about keeping up with the Joneses. This is discussion is somewhat an extension of Episode 02 - The challenges of perfectionism. This time, Rod and Lesley explore the topic through the light of comparisons we make of ourselves against others. It used to be that the grass was always greener, but now it is that the social media posts are always cooler. Lesley shares some great insights, so much so that towards the end you'll that Rod is totally stumped. What could he say after Lesley lays down the best question of all time you could ask yourself to take the edge of feeling like on the wrong side of a comparison with a 'perfect' other. They finish the episode with reminding listeners to know that none of us have it all figured out, and one of the worst sources of feeling less than perfect is listening to self improvement podcasts that make it seem like there are a few easy steps to getting it all right.

S1-23 - F is for fairness... a discussion about week 1 of 2021

Wed, 13 Jan 2021 13:00:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley use the SCARF (by David Rock) model again to talk about why we all reacted emotionally to what we witnessed this week out of the US. The F in SCARF stands for Fairness. When we see fairness we have a reward response, and we we see unfairness we have a threat response. This week, the US saw a protest go right into the capitol buildings which has huge political implications. But many people picked up on how the protestors were treated differently than Black Lives Matter protesters earlier in the year, and how unfair it was. And that riled us up as much as anything else we saw. Why? Listen to find out how Rod and Lesley dissect the topic. ==show notes== Lesley suggests listeners and Rod to check out Stacey Abrams as someone who has made change happen. Read about Stacey Abrams in this article here --> https://www.ft.com/content/8af50180-bbab-4595-a32b-fe9af205f1ce

S1-22 - Hope and optimism for 2021

Wed, 06 Jan 2021 21:15:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley ask, should we have hope, or optimism, for 2021. You'll hear that hope has its place, and optimism is based on realism. Rod wonders if Star Wars could have considered 'A new optimism', but Lesley says if she was part that that pitch, it would have be 'A new hope' all the way. Rod describes that optimism has some interesting layers that help understand when we fall into pessimism. Lesley astutely points out that in a year of uncertainty that is certainly ahead, it is a mix of hope and optimism (realism) that will bring us through.

S1-21 - New Year Resolutions

Wed, 30 Dec 2020 21:50:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about resolutions in honour of the New Year. Rod is a New Years resolution kind of guy, where Lesley is resolution at her birthday. Rod shares his over the top history of trying different resolutions, and through the discussion they come to a nice simple set of suggestions. Happy New Year listeners! Best wishes in 2021.

S1-20 - What you can do about self limiting beliefs

Wed, 23 Dec 2020 11:08:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into self-limiting beliefs. They start by sharing some of their own and explore the nuances. Rod shares a Nathaniel Branden quote as he still can't get him off his mind (listen to episode 18 and 19) and Lesley highlights the most important action to take. Rod talks through a three step process to help working limiting beliefs that he read somewhere - and warns to be careful of the internet advice out there today as it can get complicated and mis-guided. Happy holidays everyone!!

S1-19 - The 5% better rule to making change happen

Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:50:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley build on the conversation last week about Nathaniel Branden's Six Pillars of Self-Esteem. As part of his work, Nathaniel Branden pioneered a technique to get people to think in baby steps. Rod puts Lesley on the spot with questions on how she can make her life 5% better. From 5% improvements, Rod shares another book's idea of making change through tiny steps. BJ Fogg's book 'Tiny Habits' gets some love for the great ideas on how to Lesley out of the house and walking three times a week.

S1-18 - Nathaniel Branden‘s Six Pillars of Self-Esteem

Mon, 14 Dec 2020 15:05:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod shares a story about Nathaniel Branden and his book, the Six Pillars of Self-Esteem, and keeps a surprise at the end for Lesley. Rod and Lesley go over the six pillars and discuss how they are a good foundation for being able to make change happen. Listen to learn about practices that make up the six pillars. Lesley points out that the pillars interrelate and come together as a set of good advice. Now, where did Nathaniel Branden come from, who did he have relationships, and how did a libertarian theorist influence his thinking? You'll have to listen to find out.

S1-17 - Taking the edge off triggers

Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:28:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley discuss triggers that get us to react, feel bad, and generally wish didn't happen. Triggers are those things that people do, or situations that occur that 'trigger' a reaction in us. Often, we regret, or feel bad, about our reaction after the fact and want to avoid the situations. This discussion is all about exploring what we can do to be in control of what we do next, rather than leaving the next step to our reactions. If you notice an audio different, it is because Rod tries a new technique with recording.

S1-16 - Importance of your tribe to help you through change

Tue, 08 Dec 2020 13:29:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley look outward and explore the importance of the people around you to help you make sense of and navigate life changes. People in our tribe help us make sense of the world and give us a safe space to be who we are. Rod and Lesley have talked a lot about what we can do and better understand about ourselves, and in this episode we make the powerful connection to how this happens with those around us. Lesley shares the CS Lewis quote "Friendship ... is born at the moment when one man says to another "What! You too? I thought that no one but myself . . .". Which captures so well that by connecting with others on things that matter, we step out of feeling alone, to feeling accepted. If you hear a little background music, Rod was experimenting with a little jazz ambiance.

S1-15 - Setting boundaries to help you keep balance

Fri, 04 Dec 2020 20:51:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley explore the concept of boundaries. Boundaries are the limits that you set in terms of how much time, effort, caring, thinking you give to something. As well, they are how far you allow yourself to go off track when you are moving forward with a change in your life (you'll need to listen to know what that means). Lesley shows that math is in her blood with risk analysis thinking. Rod asks 'do we need to commit to others to help us keep our boundaries?' Rod and Lesley discuss how boundaries are needed, but messy. They aren't defined lines and can be fluid. Towards the end of the episode, it becomes a little bit of a confessional. Listen to find out!!

S1-14 - What do you think other people would say?

Tue, 01 Dec 2020 18:03:00 -0500

Rod and Lesley would be trying on each other's shoes in this episode if they were allowed to see each other. Instead, it is a phone call on perspectives and what you think other people would say. How can you do more of take the other person's perspective? Avoid assumptions. Be curious. Form hypotheses. Explore. Repeat. Lesley points out that many of the concepts that have discussed relate to taking different perspectives. Trust the process, let go of being perfect, allow yourself to learn from others (growth mindset), and more. Also in this episode, our first audio difficulty and the awkward moment of 'Rod, are you still there?'. all left for listeners to hear for the real life perspective of recording a podcast physically distanced :)

S1-13 - The scary halloween Covid edition

Sat, 14 Nov 2020 22:39:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley pick a scary subject to mark the recording on November 1 - the day after Halloween. And, what is more scarier than Covid? You can tell through this episode that Rod has a few gripes about how our powers that be are trying to change our behaviours. Gripes are translated into advice and it all does end up making sense as to why 'The Change Room' has something to say about techniques used to shift public behaviour. Lots of tie backs to ideas from previous episodes in a unifying theory kind of way. And only, after the production engineer set everything up did he realize the irony that this is episode number 13. BOOOO!!

S1-12 - Trust, what we all should strive for

Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:50:00 -0500

In this episode, Rod and Lesley explores the concept of Trust, and why it is important for people going through change. Rod tries to show Lesley that he is good at math too by talking fancy with a Trust equation. From Rod's mr smarty pants and some book ideas, Lesley takes us on a path of that makes them both think of trust differently. At the beginning, the audio producer (Rod) tries a new idea by starting with a clip, before the audio intro.

S1-11 - How we got into Change Management?

Sun, 08 Nov 2020 20:33:00 -0500

In this episode we share our stories about our paths to working in the field of Change Management, and why have much to say about the human condition of dealing with change. Rod reveals that he was a teenage fan of Tony Robbins and that the words of wisdom came on a cassette (google that if you don't know what a cassette is). Lesley explains how she can see energy move around the room (that isn't CGI'd) and how after getting the opportunity to work on a transformation, she was hooked on change. In an attempt to relate to Lesley's story, Rod tried to talk about 'seeing things that other people can't see' and forgot to tie it to the Matrix movie. Lots was discussed. This episode is dedicated to Felix the cat. May your afternoon naps be cozy, and your play times fulfilling.

S1-10 - When you think your friends should change

Thu, 05 Nov 2020 22:21:00 -0500

In this episode, we continue to get philosophical and talk about what to consider when it comes to desiring to change your friends. Lesley confronts the age old question 'do you tell your girlfriend not to date that guy'. Rod even gets into shakier ground by daring to use political philosophical points of view to prove a point about personal change. Again, both Rod and Lesley see the light in the space between, finding some sense and logic in the balanced perspective.

S1-09 - Why we called the podcast ‘The Change Room‘

Mon, 02 Nov 2020 08:19:00 -0500

It was time to step back and remind ourselves and our listeners, how do our discussions tie together and relate to our theme - Change. We attempt a unifying theory and try to practice a little of what we preach - giving ourselves permission to be who we are and not so hard on ourselves. To quote Lesley (who quoted a friend) "You gotta be in you and all your youness". Like any good reflection, more insights emerged. Real gems come out when Rod and Lesley share core beliefs that shape their view on things related to change.

S1-08 - Happiness Part 2

Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:19:00 -0400

Into episode two on happiness, we move from the Empire Strikes Back to Return of the Jedi. We talk about the good habits we've learned about and practice that help with keeping the dark at bay, and lightness close by. You'll hear Rod try to show off (again) with dropping author names and even bringing a book to the podcast. Aristotle gets some serious shout out, and Lesley sings a tv theme song from the...let's just say, way back.

S1-07 - Happiness Part 1

Tue, 27 Oct 2020 09:15:00 -0400

In this episode we take on the subject of happiness and then find that we got a little dark and so nicknamed our 'Empire's Strikes Back'. Some personal stories are shared to explain how reframing and reappraisal with a mix of intent, can help lead towards happiness. One of our discussions where we recognize how change happens over a loooong time, through effort, tears, smiles, and support.

S1-06 - Every day, in every way, I‘m getting better and better

Sat, 24 Oct 2020 09:15:00 -0400

We hit our stride in this episode. We dive into self-talk and auto-suggestion. References to 100 year old French guys, and 1990s SNL skits are part of our exploring whether positive self-talk matters. Lesley reveals that she thinks 'getting to a higher vibrational place' is a good thing, and Rod confesses that despite being a skeptic, it was the book 'Think and Grow Rich' that sparked his interest in psychology.

S1-05 - More on growth mindset and expectations

Wed, 21 Oct 2020 09:03:00 -0400

The conversation continues on growth mindset and how expectations become self fulfilling prophecies. We get into the importance of setting goals and venture into some philosophical questions.

S1-04 - Growth Mindset

Sun, 18 Oct 2020 09:03:00 -0400

In this episode, we share our point of view on the popular concept of Growth Mindset by Carol Dweck. We demonstrate again that we like things in moderation, even something like a growth mindset. Rod and Lesley agree, at the end of the day, don't be too hard on yourself and embrace the fact that we learn from the fixed mindset moments as well as growth moments. Also in this Episode, Rod seems to get over his umm and ahhs from previous episodes and starts to string a few sentences together.

S1-03 - New perspectives on Introversion and Extroversion

Fri, 16 Oct 2020 09:02:00 -0400

In this episode, we talk about introversion and extroversion. Much is revealed, like Rod hates labeling people, and Lesley refers to Google as the Googles. New theories are proposed and the shared belief of Rod and Lesley comes out that things aren't black and white, and rather different shades of grey. This is the last episode where Lesley's meditation bell is used to chime us in.

S1-02 - The challenges of perfectionism

Thu, 15 Oct 2020 09:01:00 -0400

In this episode, we talk about perfectionism after a winding journey through system 1 and system 2 thinking, and having standards.

S1-01 - Fight or flight and what to do about it

Fri, 09 Oct 2020 09:21:34 -0400

This is our very first episode of the Change Room. We introduce ourselves and talk about the fight or flight reaction to stress and how it affects us and is important to understand as we go through life changes.